From cph Tue Feb 1 11:25:13 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA29042 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:25:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24041; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:23:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:22:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23722; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:22:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23707; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:22:21 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-415.gate.net [199.227.131.224]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA87198; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:22:03 -0500 Message-ID: <38970845.80733802@gate.net> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 11:22:29 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Higgins CC: Thinkpad list Subject: Re: Workpad z50 (fwd) References: <200001241700.MAA01291@amanda.dorsai.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: John... irt workpad for $189.. i went to insight and can't find anything but some overpriced accessories.. can you supply the link.. ? :-) thanks.. John Higgins wrote: > > > > On the Workpad z50. How do you store your work when you turn it off. Do = > > you have to use flash memory card or pcmcia hard drive or will it = > > maintain memory when off. If you want to run other programs do you have = > > to have them on flash memory cards or a pcmcia drive. > > > It remains in RAM as long as there's power in the machine (including a AAA > backup battery). I double save *everything* to the CF and internal memory > as I'm working on it, every 5 minutes. Once a day, I back up the entire > thing once to internal memory and again to the flash card. (Can you > guess that I've had to hard reset the machine and lost everything???) > > For $8 you can buy a CF/PCMCIA adapter that you can then shove into a > notebook and grab the file. Note that this only works if you're not using > the "pocket" formats of Work, Excel, etc. which the thing always wants to > default to. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > John M. Higgins > higgins@dorsai.org > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Tue Feb 1 11:25:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA29049 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:25:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24028; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:23:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:22:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23826; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:22:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmgaaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23810; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmgaaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.134 -> ds-img-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:22:57 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id LAA01914 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:22:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:22:32 -0500 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: External CD R on Tpad 755? Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: thinkpad Message-ID: <200002011122_MC2-973A-A1D3@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id LAA29050 Hi Is it plausible to consider an external CD R unit (Parallel or PCMCIA ??) on a TPad 755CX with 40Mb Ram P75 2Gb HDD (800Mb spare) under W95C ?? Would it be very slow or require a larger HDD cache than I have spare? Many thanks for any opinions... Mark From cph Tue Feb 1 12:00:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA29328 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:00:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27372; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:59:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:58:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27281; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:58:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.internal (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27257; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:58:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.internal (209.166.154.244 -> isdn244.vocollect.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:58:48 -0500 Received: from vocollect.com (bbender@engslack.internal [172.31.6.12]) by mail.internal (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22211 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:55:39 -0500 Sender: bbender@vocollect.com Message-ID: <38971050.E7F11AEE@vocollect.com> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 11:56:48 -0500 From: Brian Bender Organization: Vocollect, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad List Subject: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Oh, @#$&*. Sent my TP600, still 9 or 10 months inside its 3 year warranty, in to EasyServ on Friday (1/28) because the system board, I assumed, was failing (it would crash then not even make it through the POST on rebooting). Called today (2/1) to check up on it and was told it was on "billable hold". Talked to a Chris Johnson in the billing dept., who proceeded to tell me that "it smoked" when the techs put it on the bench, and that they are billing *me* $700+ for the system board replacement!!! In your opinion, folks, am I right in waiting until I get the machine back before I start fighting them? If I start a battle now, they're just going to hold the thing until it's resolved, right? I'm losing work by the day limping along on a machine that doesn't have all my development tools, etc., on it. My plan is to raise holy @#$&* once I get it back, but don't I risk being without machine indefinitely if I escalate it now? Man, this is the same kind of act I've seen from them over and over on this list lately. Lou, are you out there?! This does _not_ make IBM look good. What the @#$&* is going on? You've got a loyal customer base out here, and you're screwing them left & right... Frustrated as hell, - Brian Bender TP600 -- my fourth, and quite possibly *last*, Thinkpad if I'm unable to bring these morons to their senses (What was Lou's email address again? I know I've seen it floated around...) From cph Tue Feb 1 12:06:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA29361 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:06:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28119; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:05:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:05:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27993; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:05:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27970; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:05:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (38.8.20.2 -> relay20.smtp.psi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:05:14 -0500 Received: from [204.215.186.11] (helo=ntmail.doble.com) by relay20.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 12Fgji-0004JF-00; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:05:11 -0500 Received: by NTMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:01:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'Mark Gardiner'" <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, thinkpad Subject: RE: External CD R on Tpad 755? Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:01:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I do not have any experience with the speed of the processor involved but in general I would stay away from Parallel units and go with a SCSI based system using PCMCIA. I would check around on the net like doing a search on http://www.deja.com for postings or the various web pages on CD-R to get a feel for system requirements. The major requirement for successful CD-R burning is getting the data to the drive when it wants it. An underrun (or a dry pipe) is fatal and results in a coaster. I doubt Parallel has a fast enough transfer rate to give good results. Another consideration is support by the various CD burning programs. SCSI CD-R drives have been around longest and are widely supported. IDE ones are now getting wide support. USB and Parallel ones are not widely supported. You may be able to use a P75 for burning with some changes to the system setup like not running any other programs (even background ones). I know of one fellow that would not even touch the mouse or the keyboard for fear of making a coaster. From the web pages I have seen some of the settings you need to make are in the "if you have problems see if this works" type solution. Also the compromises in laptop design (like lack of L2 cache) may require a faster system than what would work on a desktop. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com WB1HBU -----Original Message----- From: Mark Gardiner [mailto:100550.3170@compuserve.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 11:23 AM To: thinkpad Subject: External CD R on Tpad 755? Hi Is it plausible to consider an external CD R unit (Parallel or PCMCIA ??) on a TPad 755CX with 40Mb Ram P75 2Gb HDD (800Mb spare) under W95C ?? Would it be very slow or require a larger HDD cache than I have spare? Many thanks for any opinions... Mark From cph Tue Feb 1 12:09:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA29382 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:09:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28629; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:08:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:08:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28544; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:08:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28463; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (38.8.20.2 -> relay20.smtp.psi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:08:03 -0500 Received: from [204.215.186.11] (helo=ntmail.doble.com) by relay20.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 12Fgm8-0004NQ-00; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:07:37 -0500 Received: by NTMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:03:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'Brian Bender'" , Thinkpad List Subject: RE: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:03:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Hello, Well if it smoked I doubt it would be useful if you got it back. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com WB1HBU -----Original Message----- From: Brian Bender [mailto:bbender@vocollect.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 11:57 AM To: Thinkpad List Subject: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! Called today (2/1) to check up on it and was told it was on "billable hold". Talked to a Chris Johnson in the billing dept., who proceeded to tell me that "it smoked" when the techs put it on the bench, and that they are billing *me* $700+ for the system board replacement!!! In your opinion, folks, am I right in waiting until I get the machine back before I start fighting them? If I start a battle now, they're just going to hold the thing until it's resolved, right? I'm losing work by the day limping along on a machine that doesn't have all my development tools, etc., on it. My plan is to raise holy @#$&* once I get it back, but don't I risk being without machine indefinitely if I escalate it now? From cph Tue Feb 1 12:16:26 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA29444 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:16:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29590; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:15:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29468; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:15:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.internal (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29444; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.internal (209.166.154.244 -> isdn244.vocollect.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:15:06 -0500 Received: from vocollect.com (bbender@engslack.internal [172.31.6.12]) by mail.internal (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22529; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:11:32 -0500 Sender: bbender@vocollect.com Message-ID: <38971409.FC6D20F0@vocollect.com> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 12:12:41 -0500 From: Brian Bender Organization: Vocollect, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Cottrell, Eric" , Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: With the system board replaced, of course... ;-) We're going to fight about the $700. - Brian "Cottrell, Eric" wrote: > Hello, > > Well if it smoked I doubt it would be useful if you got it back. > > 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com WB1HBU > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Bender [mailto:bbender@vocollect.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 11:57 AM > To: Thinkpad List > Subject: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! > > Called today (2/1) to check up on it and was told it was on "billable > hold". Talked to a Chris Johnson in the billing dept., who proceeded to > tell me that "it smoked" when the techs put it on the bench, and that > they are billing *me* $700+ for the system board replacement!!! > > In your opinion, folks, am I right in waiting until I get the machine > back before I start fighting them? If I start a battle now, they're > just going to hold the thing until it's resolved, right? I'm losing > work by the day limping along on a machine that doesn't have all my > development tools, etc., on it. My plan is to raise holy @#$&* once > I get it back, but don't I risk being without machine indefinitely if > I escalate it now? From cph Tue Feb 1 12:19:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA29462 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:19:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00099; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:18:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00025; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:18:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29958; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:17:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:17:56 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax38.vramp.net [198.138.8.101]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA11228; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:17:22 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: , "Thinkpad List" Subject: RE: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:18:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <38971050.E7F11AEE@vocollect.com> List-Unsubscribe: Brian Bender [mailto:bbender@vocollect.com] wrote: > Sent my TP600, still 9 or 10 months inside its 3 year warranty, in to > EasyServ on Friday (1/28) because the system board, I assumed, was > failing (it would crash then not even make it through the POST on > rebooting). > Man, this is the same kind of act I've seen from them over and over on > this list lately. Lou, are you out there?! This does _not_ make IBM > look good. What the @#$&* is going on? You've got a loyal customer > base out here, and you're screwing them left & right... It shouldn't matter if it went up in flames and burned down the facility! If they can't _prove_ that you somehow modified the MB, they owe you a new 600! Go higher in the food chain and contact a service manager and _ALSO_ start calling IBM support. Your warranty (a binding contract) is between you and IBM, regardless of who they use for actual repairs. Threaten legal action and tell IBM you're reporting them for fraud to your state Atty. General. The only exception to the 3 year warranty is abuse. What "abuse" occurred that affected you 600's MB? Do all this while EZServe still has the unit. I know it's painful, but if you take it back now after THEY'VE smoked it, you're SCREWED!!!! Regards, James the Elder From cph Tue Feb 1 12:32:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA29562 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:32:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01887; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:30:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:30:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01724; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:30:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.internal (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01689; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.internal (209.166.154.244 -> isdn244.vocollect.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:30:24 -0500 Received: from vocollect.com (bbender@engslack.internal [172.31.6.12]) by mail.internal (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22786; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:27:13 -0500 Sender: bbender@vocollect.com Message-ID: <389717B7.8309DC23@vocollect.com> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 12:28:23 -0500 From: Brian Bender Organization: Vocollect, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randal Whittle , Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! References: <4.2.0.58.20000201091907.00a28100@pop3.iceka1.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Yeah, of course you guys are right. I took it up one level, and they're repairing it free of charge. This is a helluva racket EasyServ is running -- they jump you while they've got your (in some cases anyway) primary means of making a living and act like a bunch of no-good used car salesmen (no offense to any *honest* car salesmen out there ). Despite the quick and resonable resolution once I got back inside IBM, I'm still going to follow this up with a chain of bitch letters. The "new" EasyServ definitely does not reflect well on IBM's PC group... Thanks for helping me get my head on straight, guys, - Brian Randal Whittle wrote: > At 12:12 PM 02/01/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >With the system board replaced, of course... ;-) > >We're going to fight about the $700. > > Escalate--NOW. If you wait until later you'll be eating that $700. > > - Randy > > > - Brian > > > >"Cottrell, Eric" wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Well if it smoked I doubt it would be useful if you got it back. > > > > > > 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com WB1HBU > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Brian Bender [mailto:bbender@vocollect.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 11:57 AM > > > To: Thinkpad List > > > Subject: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! > > > > > > Called today (2/1) to check up on it and was told it was on "billable > > > hold". Talked to a Chris Johnson in the billing dept., who proceeded to > > > tell me that "it smoked" when the techs put it on the bench, and that > > > they are billing *me* $700+ for the system board replacement!!! > > > > > > In your opinion, folks, am I right in waiting until I get the machine > > > back before I start fighting them? If I start a battle now, they're > > > just going to hold the thing until it's resolved, right? I'm losing > > > work by the day limping along on a machine that doesn't have all my > > > development tools, etc., on it. My plan is to raise holy @#$&* once > > > I get it back, but don't I risk being without machine indefinitely if > > > I escalate it now? > > From cph Tue Feb 1 12:36:09 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA29579 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:36:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02432; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:34:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:34:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02343; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:34:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02316; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:34:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:34:17 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [172.20.2.1]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13633; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:32:27 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [172.20.1.9]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA18288; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:32:26 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:32:47 +0000 To: "'Mark Gardiner'" <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, thinkpad , "Cottrell, Eric" Subject: Re[2]: External CD R on Tpad 755? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id MAA29580 Another alternative is to use a DOCK I or II and run the CD-R off the SCSI bus. If you're really lucky, get a DOCK with the internal SCSI wiring installed (it's non-standard internally) and you can run an internal CD-R drive in it. Otherwise connect to the external connector. - Adam ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: External CD R on Tpad 755? Author: MIME:"Cottrell, Eric" at INTERNET Date: 2/1/00 5:07 PM Hello, I do not have any experience with the speed of the processor involved but in general I would stay away from Parallel units and go with a SCSI based system using PCMCIA. I would check around on the net like doing a search on http://www.deja.com for postings or the various web pages on CD-R to get a feel for system requirements. The major requirement for successful CD-R burning is getting the data to the drive when it wants it. An underrun (or a dry pipe) is fatal and results in a coaster. I doubt Parallel has a fast enough transfer rate to give good results. Another consideration is support by the various CD burning programs. SCSI CD-R drives have been around longest and are widely supported. IDE ones are now getting wide support. USB and Parallel ones are not widely supported. You may be able to use a P75 for burning with some changes to the system setup like not running any other programs (even background ones). I know of one fellow that would not even touch the mouse or the keyboard for fear of making a coaster. From the web pages I have seen some of the settings you need to make are in the "if you have problems see if this works" type solution. Also the compromises in laptop design (like lack of L2 cache) may require a faster system than what would work on a desktop. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com WB1HBU -----Original Message----- From: Mark Gardiner [mailto:100550.3170@compuserve.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 11:23 AM To: thinkpad Subject: External CD R on Tpad 755? Hi Is it plausible to consider an external CD R unit (Parallel or PCMCIA ??) on a TPad 755CX with 40Mb Ram P75 2Gb HDD (800Mb spare) under W95C ?? Would it be very slow or require a larger HDD cache than I have spare? Many thanks for any opinions... Mark ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Tue Feb 1 12:58:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA29684 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:58:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04851; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:56:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:55:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04643; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from ux13.cso.uiuc.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04619; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from ux13.cso.uiuc.edu (128.174.5.25 -> ux13.cso.uiuc.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:55:09 -0500 Received: from GeorgeNeurauter (london-9.slip.uiuc.edu [130.126.26.69]) by ux13.cso.uiuc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA13311; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:55:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003401bf6cdc$ed7d9ae0$451a7e82@GeorgeNeurauter> From: "George Neurauter" To: "Brian Bender" , "Thinkpad List" References: <4.2.0.58.20000201091907.00a28100@pop3.iceka1.com> <389717B7.8309DC23@vocollect.com> Subject: Another Bad EzServe Story (Was Re: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!!) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:51:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Bender To: Randal Whittle ; Thinkpad List Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! > This is a helluva racket EasyServ is running -- they jump you while they've got > your (in some cases anyway) primary means of making a living and act like a > bunch of no-good used car salesmen (no offense to any *honest* car salesmen out > there ). When my i1410 was still under IBM warranty, I was having problems which caused the computer to say there were only a few minutes remaining on the battery but the battery still had enough juice to run a couple of hours with power management off. I called service about it and they told me to fully charge and discharge the battery 2-3 times. I did this twice and nothing changed. I was convinced that the battery was bad. I told service this and they blamed the BIOS and Windows power management, Windows itself, everything but the battery! I had to insist on replacing the battery before they would do it. New battery, no problems. George From cph Tue Feb 1 14:14:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA30185 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:14:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12344; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:11:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12166; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12147; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:11:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (206.127.32.35 -> tam.dorsai.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:11:03 -0500 Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (higgins@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA21564 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:04:08 -0500 (EST) From: John Higgins Received: (higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id OAA11568 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:04:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002011904.OAA11568@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: Re: Workpad z50 (fwd) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad list) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 100 14:04:04 -0500 (est) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > John... > irt workpad for $189.. > i went to insight and can't find anything but some overpriced accessories.. > can you supply the link.. ? :-) > Insight has stock out, will restock, but at a higher price.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph Tue Feb 1 14:58:12 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA30517 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:58:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16381; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:52:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16295; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16271; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:52:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.18 -> mail1.svr.pol.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:52:42 -0500 Received: from modem-30.yttrium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.35.30] helo=basterfield.com) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12FjLY-0006je-00; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 19:52:20 +0000 Message-ID: <3897397E.7FC114F3@basterfield.com> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 19:52:30 +0000 From: Daniel Basterfield Organization: I've heard of that. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PC110 mailing list , ThinkPad mailing list Subject: [PC110/TP730] PCMCIA flash cards - 'not ready' and SYS errors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Folks, Had a few questions of late that I've been unable to answer, relating to flash cards (either PCMCIA or CF in PCMCIA adapter) being seen as 'not ready' by PCMCIA software. I got a flash card from the States today, and the first thing I did was try this out. Scenario 1: You want to copy files, perhaps operating system stuff, to a flash card in one 'host' machine, then transfer to another such as the PC110 or ThinkPad 730. Problem: The 'host' machine's PCMCIA configuration software correctly identifies the card, but flags it as 'not ready' (or similar). Reason: You do not have the correct PCMCIA storage drivers loaded. Most DOS/Windows/OS/2 PCMCIA support packages from IBM seem to install SRAM storage card support by default, but not the ATA storage driver. PCMCIA & CF flash cards are generally ATA devices. The card is identified by Card & Socket Services, but no driver is present to allow you to use the card. You see the same sort of symptoms if you insert a new network card, for example. Fix: You need to obtain the PCMCIA ATA storage driver. I use the file ATADO200.EXE from IBM's web site. The DOS driver, for example, is PCMATADD.SYS. Add this in to CONFIG.SYS, replacing the reference to SRAMDRV2.SYS unless you also have SRAM cards, and reboot. I seem to recall that there was a DISKDRV.SYS DOS driver distributed at one point by IBM that purported to be a catch-all storage driver. Check your diskettes before downloading as you may already have this. Scenario 2: You have the flash card recognised in your 'host' system, and want to make it bootable. Problem: SYS x: returns an error indicating that the drive cannot be made bootable, or that the active partition cannot be set, or similar. Reason: SYS (and FDISK) are generally not supported for use with removable devices, but don't always handle attempts to use them in this fashion gracefully. The flash card is seen as a removable device, hence the errors. Fix: The easiest approach is to use a ThinkPad that supports a PCMCIA option in the boot sequence. Set the machine to boot off FLOPPY then PCMCIA, insert the flash card and boot from a DOS floppy. The flash card should be seen as the first fixed disk, containing one active primary partition, i.e. C:. So now you can do a SYS A: C: and it will work. You should still be able to see your normal hard drive as the second IDE device, i.e. partitions starting at D:. Hope this helps any who have puzzled over this. Dan. -- Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" OS/2 Certified Engineer Microsoft Certified Professional ----------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM PC110 web page: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm From cph Tue Feb 1 16:07:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA31041 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:07:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25498; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:06:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:04:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25245; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25230; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:04:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA37700 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:04:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:04:33 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPad Screw Covers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Greetings everyone, It seems I am missing one of the black circle things that IBM uses on the ThinkPads to cover the screw from being seen. Does anyone know where I can get some replacements? Thanks! Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Tue Feb 1 16:41:12 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA31375 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:41:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28582; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:39:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:38:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28445; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28418; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.17 -> mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:38:57 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.68.0.174]) by mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000201213854.HJUM12791@compaq>; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:38:54 +0000 Message-ID: <38975254.7CA7@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 16:38:28 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Bender CC: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! References: <38971050.E7F11AEE@vocollect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: They pulled that on me on one machine, They have some tech there who is a scumbag and tries to blame the customers for warranty defects, Stand up for your rights, call several times a day and fight with them, you will prevail in a few days Brian Bender wrote: > > Oh, @#$&*. > > Sent my TP600, still 9 or 10 months inside its 3 year warranty, in to > EasyServ on Friday (1/28) because the system board, I assumed, was > failing (it would crash then not even make it through the POST on > rebooting). > > Called today (2/1) to check up on it and was told it was on "billable > hold". Talked to a Chris Johnson in the billing dept., who proceeded to > tell me that "it smoked" when the techs put it on the bench, and that > they are billing *me* $700+ for the system board replacement!!! > > In your opinion, folks, am I right in waiting until I get the machine > back before I start fighting them? If I start a battle now, they're > just going to hold the thing until it's resolved, right? I'm losing > work by the day limping along on a machine that doesn't have all my > development tools, etc., on it. My plan is to raise holy @#$&* once > I get it back, but don't I risk being without machine indefinitely if > I escalate it now? > > Man, this is the same kind of act I've seen from them over and over on > this list lately. Lou, are you out there?! This does _not_ make IBM > look good. What the @#$&* is going on? You've got a loyal customer > base out here, and you're screwing them left & right... > > Frustrated as hell, > - Brian Bender > TP600 -- my fourth, and quite possibly *last*, Thinkpad if I'm unable > to bring these morons to their senses > > (What was Lou's email address again? I know I've seen it floated > around...) From cph Tue Feb 1 19:09:15 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA32376 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:09:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10855; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:03:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10351; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:03:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from haupia.lava.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10336; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from haupia.lava.net (199.222.42.44 -> haupia.lava.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:03:30 -0500 Received: from lava.net(uhiuhi064.lava.net[207.26.194.159]) (949 bytes) by haupia.lava.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:03:27 -1000 (HST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #2 built 1999-Dec-7) Message-ID: <389772EF.67A9EDEF@lava.net> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 13:57:35 -1000 From: pirate X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad list Subject: Workpad z50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: --hey Bill, if you're looking for the z50 "ecost.com" still has them, but they're running at $264. Still not a bad deal. I'm waiting for the color palm III though. =) The IBM workpad version that is.. --Keith -- Keith Wong System Admin - Document Imaging Honolulu Police Department - Records Division Office: (808) 529-3434 Emails: wongk007@hawaii.rr.com pirate@lava.net kwong@email.uophx.edu From cph Tue Feb 1 19:51:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA32579 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:51:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13907; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:50:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:48:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13775; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13762; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:48:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.30 -> cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:48:42 -0500 Received: from default - 63.27.184.58 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:48:38 -0800 Message-ID: <000701bf6d16$085109e0$3ab81b3f@default> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Think" Subject: Thinkpad z50 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:39:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: www.onsale.com has a butt load of them. Some auctions are way under $200. Brad From cph Tue Feb 1 21:40:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA00900 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:40:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20168; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:39:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:37:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19975; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:37:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19962; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:37:01 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.12.134]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000202023659.MQQE24946@701c> for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 02:36:59 +0000 Message-ID: <004201bf6d26$6d051e20$860c4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Thinkpad 730T Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:37:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello everybody. I am at a loss. I have e-mailed the mirror of the 730T to someone. However, I am not sure who. If you need a copy of the mirror, Please send me an e-mail that contains your e-mail address. This is because I am not sure who all has the image and who does not. Also I have 2 drives to image from. One has windows 3.1 on it and explorer 4.xx, and the other is windows 95 first ed. I can also e-mail the DOS 6.22 and interlink. This allows one thie another computer to download the full OS locally, much faster! Thanks, and as always, have fun From cph Tue Feb 1 22:23:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA01254 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:23:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22494; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:22:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:20:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22378; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22365; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:20:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:20:30 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.58.97]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000202032028.NSDZ24946@701c> for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 03:20:28 +0000 Message-ID: <000701bf6d2c$7ffae180$613a4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Workpad Z50 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:20:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. I have found some strange things happen to web pages in CE. I have found some radio buttons do not work in web pages under CE. Has anyone else found problems like this. One page stands out is drivernet.com. In this site, most everything else works, save for the buttons for e-mail use. Windows CE is kind of neat, but a 701C under windows 3.1 is a lot faster surfing the web. I think the workpad is neat, besides its little querks. As always, have fun. From cph Tue Feb 1 22:45:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA01384 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:45:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23887; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:41:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23720; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23695; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:41:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (12.79.28.249 -> 249.morristown-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:41:40 -0500 Message-ID: <002501bf6d2f$1b1c6740$f91c4f0c@cijeczcig1x68u> From: "Donald Mak" To: "Vincent Poy" , References: Subject: Re: ThinkPad Screw Covers Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:38:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: I have had little success in finding this stick on covers. It seems that you have to buy the whole screw set to get the covers. (Last I looked that was about $20) Donald Mak ----- Original Message ----- From: Vincent Poy To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 4:04 PM Subject: ThinkPad Screw Covers > Greetings everyone, > > It seems I am missing one of the black circle things that IBM uses > on the ThinkPads to cover the screw from being seen. Does anyone know > where I can get some replacements? Thanks! > > > Cheers, > Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / [__ ] > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > > From cph Tue Feb 1 23:43:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA01760 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:43:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27199; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:40:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27000; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:40:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26983; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:40:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:40:22 -0500 Received: from worldnet.att.net ([12.72.58.241]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with ESMTP id <20000202044020.CUEO2478@worldnet.att.net> for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 04:40:20 +0000 Message-ID: <3897B5AC.BCB47E88@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 20:42:20 -0800 From: Frank Janik Reply-To: f.s.janik@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-WNS2.5 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubcribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: From cph Tue Feb 1 23:44:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA01764 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:44:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27392; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:42:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:41:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27075; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:41:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot014.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27062; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:41:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot014.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.114 -> pilot014.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:41:16 -0500 Received: from andres (pm659-29.dialip.mich.net [198.110.17.135]) by pilot014.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA39586 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:41:13 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000201234022.00a65480@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 23:40:22 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! In-Reply-To: <38975254.7CA7@worldnet.att.net> References: <38971050.E7F11AEE@vocollect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Do you know the name of this person? It might be good for us all to comment on these things. There is nothing wrong/libelous/slanderous about such addmissions... --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 04:38 PM 2/1/2000 -0500, Bruce Markowitz wrote: >They pulled that on me on one machine, They have some tech there who is >a scumbag and tries to blame the customers for warranty defects, >Stand up for your rights, call several times a day and fight with them, >you will prevail in a few days From cph Wed Feb 2 00:02:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA01843 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:02:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28603; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:58:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:56:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28447; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:56:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28434; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:56:49 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-116.gate.net [199.227.20.179]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA42430; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:56:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3897B91E.6C695A99@gate.net> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 23:57:02 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Higgins CC: Thinkpad list Subject: Re: Workpad z50 (fwd) References: <200002011904.OAA11568@amanda.dorsai.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have always found insight to be less flexible in price.. thus my surprise at this $189 price.. :-) John Higgins wrote: > > John... > > irt workpad for $189.. > > i went to insight and can't find anything but some overpriced accessories.. > > can you supply the link.. ? :-) > > > Insight has stock out, will restock, but at a higher price.... > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > John M. Higgins > higgins@dorsai.org > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 2 00:03:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA01848 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:03:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29092; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:00:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28845; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:00:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28832; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:59:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:59:58 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-116.gate.net [199.227.20.179]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25414; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:59:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3897B9DD.C817F2FD@gate.net> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 00:00:13 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pirate CC: thinkpad list Subject: Re: Workpad z50 References: <389772EF.67A9EDEF@lava.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i have them and have sold several.. though i can't match the e-cost.com price.. personally, i think its a great deal.. a really nice little machine that looks so much like a thinkpad, one expects thinkpad speed and a TFT display.. but alas, it is still a workpad.. but such a nice little machine.. i kept two, one for myself and one for my wife.. this will be her first computer.. pirate wrote: > --hey Bill, if you're looking for the z50 "ecost.com" still has them, > but they're running at $264. Still not a bad deal. I'm waiting for the > color palm III though. =) The IBM workpad version that is.. > > --Keith > > -- > > Keith Wong > System Admin - Document Imaging > Honolulu Police Department - Records Division > Office: (808) 529-3434 > Emails: wongk007@hawaii.rr.com > pirate@lava.net > kwong@email.uophx.edu -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 2 00:07:36 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA01870 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:07:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29341; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:02:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:00:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29014; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:00:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28996; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:00:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:00:50 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-116.gate.net [199.227.20.179]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA42286; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:00:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3897BA17.94CAC5D7@gate.net> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 00:01:12 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Burean CC: Think Subject: Re: Thinkpad z50 References: <000701bf6d16$085109e0$3ab81b3f@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i have seen them going for $300 + on ebay.. i may put my last one there.. :-) Brad Burean wrote: > www.onsale.com has a butt load of them. Some auctions are way under $200. > > Brad -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 2 00:13:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA01900 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:13:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00227; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:11:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:10:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00041; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:10:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00028; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:10:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:10:20 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-116.gate.net [199.227.20.179]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA25420; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:10:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3897BC4C.3DC1D75E@gate.net> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 00:10:36 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James H. E. Maugham" CC: bbender@vocollect.com, Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I agree with James the Elder.. BUT, start out with more honey than fulminations.. ask them what makes them thing that YOU are responsible for the system board dying..? then escalate the matter... i had a 770-3AU that had a very strange problem with the display.. thousands of white specs (not stuck pixels) that, when viewed in a dark environment, appeared like the milky way on a dark night.. i finally convinced a supervisor to take the machine into a dark room, and.. VIOLA!! they saw it, did the same head scratch routine i had already done here at home, and i got the new display.. SO, sometimes it takes some work on the telephone.. "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > Brian Bender [mailto:bbender@vocollect.com] wrote: > > > Sent my TP600, still 9 or 10 months inside its 3 year warranty, in to > > EasyServ on Friday (1/28) because the system board, I assumed, was > > failing (it would crash then not even make it through the POST on > > rebooting). > > > > > Man, this is the same kind of act I've seen from them over and over on > > this list lately. Lou, are you out there?! This does _not_ make IBM > > look good. What the @#$&* is going on? You've got a loyal customer > > base out here, and you're screwing them left & right... > > It shouldn't matter if it went up in flames and burned down the facility! If > they can't _prove_ that you somehow modified the MB, they owe you a new 600! > > Go higher in the food chain and contact a service manager and _ALSO_ start > calling IBM support. Your warranty (a binding contract) is between you and IBM, > regardless of who they use for actual repairs. Threaten legal action and tell > IBM you're reporting them for fraud to your state Atty. General. > > The only exception to the 3 year warranty is abuse. What "abuse" occurred that > affected you 600's MB? > > Do all this while EZServe still has the unit. I know it's painful, but if you > take it back now after THEY'VE smoked it, you're SCREWED!!!! > > Regards, > > James the Elder -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 2 00:15:33 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA01909 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:15:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00538; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:13:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:12:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00275; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:12:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00261; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:12:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:12:00 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-116.gate.net [199.227.20.179]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA09396; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:11:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3897BCB1.E1393330@gate.net> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 00:12:17 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James H. E. Maugham" CC: bbender@vocollect.com, Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: AND, i'm thinking of a section on my site entitled: "Tell IBM what they are doing right" and "Tell IBM what they are doing wrong" i know they watch me, just waiting for an opening to pounce..! :-) "James H. E. Maugham" wrote: > Brian Bender [mailto:bbender@vocollect.com] wrote: > > > Sent my TP600, still 9 or 10 months inside its 3 year warranty, in to > > EasyServ on Friday (1/28) because the system board, I assumed, was > > failing (it would crash then not even make it through the POST on > > rebooting). > > > > > Man, this is the same kind of act I've seen from them over and over on > > this list lately. Lou, are you out there?! This does _not_ make IBM > > look good. What the @#$&* is going on? You've got a loyal customer > > base out here, and you're screwing them left & right... > > It shouldn't matter if it went up in flames and burned down the facility! If > they can't _prove_ that you somehow modified the MB, they owe you a new 600! > > Go higher in the food chain and contact a service manager and _ALSO_ start > calling IBM support. Your warranty (a binding contract) is between you and IBM, > regardless of who they use for actual repairs. Threaten legal action and tell > IBM you're reporting them for fraud to your state Atty. General. > > The only exception to the 3 year warranty is abuse. What "abuse" occurred that > affected you 600's MB? > > Do all this while EZServe still has the unit. I know it's painful, but if you > take it back now after THEY'VE smoked it, you're SCREWED!!!! > > Regards, > > James the Elder -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 2 00:17:55 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA01932 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:17:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00878; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:15:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:14:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00696; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00682; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:14:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:14:23 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-116.gate.net [199.227.20.179]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA108420; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:12:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3897BCED.FBC0BDFB@gate.net> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 00:13:17 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Bender CC: Randal Whittle , Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! References: <4.2.0.58.20000201091907.00a28100@pop3.iceka1.com> <389717B7.8309DC23@vocollect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: ooohh, next time i'm going to READ ALL the posts before i type away.. :-) Brian Bender wrote: > Yeah, of course you guys are right. I took it up one level, and they're > repairing it free of charge. > This is a helluva racket EasyServ is running -- they jump you while they've got > your (in some cases anyway) primary means of making a living and act like a > bunch of no-good used car salesmen (no offense to any *honest* car salesmen out > there ). > > Despite the quick and resonable resolution once I got back inside IBM, I'm > still going to follow this up with a chain of bitch letters. The "new" > EasyServ definitely does not reflect well on IBM's PC group... > > Thanks for helping me get my head on straight, guys, > > - Brian > > Randal Whittle wrote: > > > At 12:12 PM 02/01/2000 -0500, you wrote: > > >With the system board replaced, of course... ;-) > > >We're going to fight about the $700. > > > > Escalate--NOW. If you wait until later you'll be eating that $700. > > > > - Randy > > > > > - Brian > > > > > >"Cottrell, Eric" wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Well if it smoked I doubt it would be useful if you got it back. > > > > > > > > 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com WB1HBU > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Brian Bender [mailto:bbender@vocollect.com] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 11:57 AM > > > > To: Thinkpad List > > > > Subject: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! > > > > > > > > Called today (2/1) to check up on it and was told it was on "billable > > > > hold". Talked to a Chris Johnson in the billing dept., who proceeded to > > > > tell me that "it smoked" when the techs put it on the bench, and that > > > > they are billing *me* $700+ for the system board replacement!!! > > > > > > > > In your opinion, folks, am I right in waiting until I get the machine > > > > back before I start fighting them? If I start a battle now, they're > > > > just going to hold the thing until it's resolved, right? I'm losing > > > > work by the day limping along on a machine that doesn't have all my > > > > development tools, etc., on it. My plan is to raise holy @#$&* once > > > > I get it back, but don't I risk being without machine indefinitely if > > > > I escalate it now? > > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 2 00:23:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA01992 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:23:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01650; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:22:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:20:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01397; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:20:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01370; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:20:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (24.137.12.3) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:20:24 -0500 Received: from CEL400 (24.137.23.16) by orion.planetcable.net (Worldmail 1.3.167); 2 Feb 2000 00:17:12 -0500 Message-ID: <027701bf6d3d$9a67f4c0$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> From: "Slip" To: , "Brian Bender" Cc: "Thinkpad List" References: <38971050.E7F11AEE@vocollect.com> <38975254.7CA7@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:23:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: >They pulled that on me on one machine, They have some tech there who is >a scumbag and tries to blame the customers for warranty defects, >Stand up for your rights, call several times a day and fight with them, >you will prevail in a few days Yeah I sent a system back for strange problem with display and HDD passwd. They replaced the board, then tried to pinn the cost of a new HDD on me assuming I had simply forgot the passwd. The problems were obviously related!! After haggling with them for a week or so, I got a nice service tech. who replaced the drive without getting validation to do warranty work on it(they sent me a new drive). He understood what was going on. Like the above poster mentioned, just stand a firm ground. -Jamie From cph Wed Feb 2 01:13:04 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA02138 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:13:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04076; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:08:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03918; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:08:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03905; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:08:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.42 -> mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:08:35 -0500 Received: from manaboi ([12.72.131.36]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000202060833.FMMC13032@manaboi> for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 06:08:33 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01bf6d43$f0706f40$2483480c@manaboi> From: "Duke Sturgeon" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:07:07 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: aloha, please unsubscribe me-- i did not realize how MANY email i would get each time i open up my mail-- thank you, duke From cph Wed Feb 2 03:20:11 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA02451 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 03:20:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09091; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 03:14:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 03:12:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08915; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 03:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08902; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 03:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (206.184.139.15 -> proxy4.ba.best.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 03:12:25 -0500 Received: from dgoldman (root@shell9.ba.best.com [206.184.139.140]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id AAA03567 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:12:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.1.20000202000810.04913620@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dgoldman@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 00:11:53 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: Workpad z50 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3897B91E.6C695A99@gate.net> References: <200002011904.OAA11568@amanda.dorsai.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:57 PM 2/1/2000 , Bill Morrow wrote: >I have always found insight to be less flexible in price.. >thus my surprise at this $189 price.. :-) Don't be shocked at $189 from Insight... One day last week I saw that one of the home shopping channels on cable TV had the Workpad Z50 for only $166... TIMES THREE PAYMENTS! That's right. While everybody here is indicating prices in the $150-$200 range, this company wanted $498 (plus S/H) for one! I nearly choked with laughter. -- David Goldman From cph Wed Feb 2 05:17:00 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA02709 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:16:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA17524; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:11:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:09:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA17330; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA17314; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:09:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:09:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA40117; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 02:09:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 02:09:11 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Donald Mak cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad Screw Covers In-Reply-To: <002501bf6d2f$1b1c6740$f91c4f0c@cijeczcig1x68u> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Donald Mak wrote: > I have had little success in finding this stick on covers. It seems that you > have to buy > the whole screw set to get the covers. (Last I looked that was about $20) Wow, not that really is bad... Where can you even buy the screw set since I thought end users can't buy the parts. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Wed Feb 2 05:27:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA02737 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:27:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22270; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:25:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:23:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22158; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22136; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:23:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:23:39 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [172.20.2.1]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20135; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:23:32 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [172.20.1.9]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA00755; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:23:30 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:23:53 +0000 To: Donald Mak Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[2]: ThinkPad Screw Covers MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id FAA02738 Just had an idea - how about getting some black plastic sheet, and putting it through a hole punch (for ring binders) - are the discs you get in the punch about the right size? - Adam ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: ThinkPad Screw Covers Author: MIME:Vincent Poy at INTERNET Date: 2/2/00 10:17 AM On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Donald Mak wrote: > I have had little success in finding this stick on covers. It seems that you > have to buy > the whole screw set to get the covers. (Last I looked that was about $20) Wow, not that really is bad... Where can you even buy the screw set since I thought end users can't buy the parts. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Wed Feb 2 08:46:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA03583 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:46:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02857; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:41:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02497; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:41:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02483; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:41:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (147.225.51.39 -> mosquito.ny.ans.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:41:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (bkomar@localhost) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id IAA12270; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:41:53 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mosquito.ny.ans.net: bkomar owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:41:52 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: Frank Janik cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: unsubcribe In-Reply-To: <3897B5AC.BCB47E88@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Frank Janik wrote: > In order to List-Unsubscribe: mailto:thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Subject=unsubscribe Have a nice day, Bruce Komar From cph Wed Feb 2 10:52:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA04343 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:52:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14932; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:50:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:48:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14650; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:48:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14618; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:47:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (38.8.20.2 -> relay20.smtp.psi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:47:57 -0500 Received: from [204.215.186.11] (helo=ntmail.doble.com) by relay20.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 12G20Y-0001b9-00; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:47:54 -0500 Received: by NTMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:43:53 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'David Goldman'" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Workpad z50 (fwd) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:43:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Hello, Well I went to www.pricewatch.com a couple of times over the last week or so and did a search on Workpad z50. They had prices from $499 to $750 or so. Today it looks like it is down to $379 from one dealer. So thanks to the list I got a good deal! 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com -----Original Message----- From: David Goldman [mailto:dgoldman@best.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 3:12 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Workpad z50 (fwd) At 08:57 PM 2/1/2000 , Bill Morrow wrote: >I have always found insight to be less flexible in price.. >thus my surprise at this $189 price.. :-) Don't be shocked at $189 from Insight... One day last week I saw that one of the home shopping channels on cable TV had the Workpad Z50 for only $166... TIMES THREE PAYMENTS! That's right. While everybody here is indicating prices in the $150-$200 range, this company wanted $498 (plus S/H) for one! I nearly choked with laughter. -- David Goldman From cph Wed Feb 2 11:57:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA04883 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:57:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21753; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:54:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:52:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21440; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21426; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:52:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:52:08 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-501.gate.net [199.227.173.247]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA41234 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:52:03 -0500 Message-ID: <389860CE.40EB0B42@gate.net> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 11:52:30 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: Vote if you want a complaint/compliment page on thinkpads.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: While i have roughed in a page on my as yet unpublished new design for thinkpads.com entitled thus: Tell IBM what they are doing RIGHT and Tell IBM what they are doing WRONG it is obvious that the new design for my site has yet to be published.. SO, please let me know if anyone here thinks that this would be constructive.. i DO know that "they" watch my site, because they would like me to stop diluting their trademark for a laptop computer with my plural use of the word as an address in cyberspace.. so, they watch and wait, like a lawy.. uhh.. vulture.. :-) -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 2 12:05:13 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA04939 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:05:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23590; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:01:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23420; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot002.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23402; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:01:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot002.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.102 -> pilot002.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:01:26 -0500 Received: from andres (pm454-29.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.231]) by pilot002.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA11394 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:01:22 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000202120032.00ab3100@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 12:00:32 -0500 To: ThinkPad List From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Vote if you want a complaint/compliment page on thinkpads.com In-Reply-To: <389860CE.40EB0B42@gate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Bill, I think this is an excellent thing to try. I think I can add entries to both sides of the coin. If "they" (heh! I like that, 'they') monitor the site, then perhaps they'll start to understand some of the things they need to check. Only yesterday did I get a blast from another computer person here at Michigan State University--she will absolutely NOT use ThinkPads again, owing to two really bad experiences she's had, and three Dell laptops that have been perfect. So yes, I think this kind of feedback would be a good thing. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 11:52 AM 2/2/2000 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >While i have roughed in a page on my as yet unpublished new design for >thinkpads.com entitled thus: >Tell IBM what they are doing RIGHT >and >Tell IBM what they are doing WRONG >it is obvious that the new design for my site has yet to be published.. > >SO, please let me know if anyone here thinks that this would be >constructive.. >i DO know that "they" watch my site, because they would like me to stop >diluting their trademark for a laptop computer with my plural use of the >word as an address in cyberspace.. >so, they watch and wait, like a lawy.. uhh.. vulture.. :-) > >-- >Happy trails... From cph Wed Feb 2 12:09:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA04979 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:09:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24147; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:06:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:05:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23998; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:05:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.internal (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23968; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:05:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.internal (209.166.154.244 -> isdn244.vocollect.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:05:18 -0500 Received: from vocollect.com (bbender@engslack.internal [172.31.6.12]) by mail.internal (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00204; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:01:58 -0500 Sender: bbender@vocollect.com Message-ID: <38986347.10A5656A@vocollect.com> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 12:03:03 -0500 From: Brian Bender Organization: Vocollect, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: penzance@gate.net CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Vote if you want a complaint/compliment page on thinkpads.com References: <389860CE.40EB0B42@gate.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I think it would be _especially_ useful knowing that they watch your site. If they didn't, we'd just be preaching to the choir. ;-) As long as it doesn't cause you problems (at least any _more_ problems ) with IBM, run with it, Bill! - Brian Bender Bill Morrow wrote: > While i have roughed in a page on my as yet unpublished new design for > thinkpads.com entitled thus: > Tell IBM what they are doing RIGHT > and > Tell IBM what they are doing WRONG > it is obvious that the new design for my site has yet to be published.. > > SO, please let me know if anyone here thinks that this would be > constructive.. > i DO know that "they" watch my site, because they would like me to stop > diluting their trademark for a laptop computer with my plural use of the > word as an address in cyberspace.. > so, they watch and wait, like a lawy.. uhh.. vulture.. :-) > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 2 12:59:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA05308 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:59:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29221; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:54:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28854; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:54:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28832; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:54:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (171.64.14.23 -> smtp.Stanford.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:54:08 -0500 Received: from stanford.edu (banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.66.3.116]) by smtp.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29187 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:54:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38986F2F.A2116448@stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 09:53:51 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Vote if you want a complaint/compliment page on thinkpads.com References: <389860CE.40EB0B42@gate.net> <38986347.10A5656A@vocollect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: This definitely has my vote too. IBM is like any large corporation - made up of individuals who may be good or bad and thus alternately polish or tarnish IBM's reputation. If someone important in customer service (not a lawyer) reads your site, I'm sure there will be rapid improvements in service, especially since I'm sure we'll all sane individuals for the most part who can document our experiences to any IBMer who wants to verify the incidents. Benjamin Brian Bender wrote: > > I think it would be _especially_ useful knowing that they watch your site. > If they didn't, we'd just be preaching to the choir. ;-) > > As long as it doesn't cause you problems (at least any _more_ problems ) > with IBM, run with it, Bill! > > - Brian Bender > > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > While i have roughed in a page on my as yet unpublished new design for > > thinkpads.com entitled thus: > > Tell IBM what they are doing RIGHT > > and > > Tell IBM what they are doing WRONG > > it is obvious that the new design for my site has yet to be published.. > > > > SO, please let me know if anyone here thinks that this would be > > constructive.. > > i DO know that "they" watch my site, because they would like me to stop > > diluting their trademark for a laptop computer with my plural use of the > > word as an address in cyberspace.. > > so, they watch and wait, like a lawy.. uhh.. vulture.. :-) > > > > -- > > Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 2 13:06:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA05372 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:06:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00352; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:03:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:02:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29922; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:02:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29892; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:02:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.34 -> out4.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:02:02 -0500 Received: from GREGORYZEQXR4X ([32.101.156.242]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2000020218014923900knm8ge>; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 18:01:49 +0000 From: "Gregory Harris" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: Re: Vote if you want a complaint/compliment page on thinkpads.com Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:02:31 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: I cast my vote in favour as well. I wish we could see IBM back with the service their product really deserves. Greg Harris -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 8:53 AM To: ThinkPad List Subject: Vote if you want a complaint/compliment page on thinkpads.com While i have roughed in a page on my as yet unpublished new design for thinkpads.com entitled thus: Tell IBM what they are doing RIGHT and Tell IBM what they are doing WRONG it is obvious that the new design for my site has yet to be published.. SO, please let me know if anyone here thinks that this would be constructive.. i DO know that "they" watch my site, because they would like me to stop diluting their trademark for a laptop computer with my plural use of the word as an address in cyberspace.. so, they watch and wait, like a lawy.. uhh.. vulture.. :-) -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 2 14:32:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA06057 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:32:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09455; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:27:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09242; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:27:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09216; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:27:27 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-501.gate.net [199.227.173.247]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA85930 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:27:22 -0500 Message-ID: <38988534.7BB14036@gate.net> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 14:27:49 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: The VOTE..!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: so FAR, all are in favor, with one caution that the complaints should be documented.. what i think can be the easiest way to implement this is to add two sections to me confrence.. and moderate it myself, so that flames and unreasonable complaints would need to be passed on, by me, or who ever wants to moderate that confrence.. i WAS, initially, thinking of accepting the comments by e-mail and then publish them in a page devoted to the subject.. no threads or anything, just compliments and complaints.. also, the web site is easier to just look at than the open forum with two new confrences on compliments and complaints.. so, any thoughts on this would be appreciated.. :-) -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 2 14:33:33 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA06075 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:33:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09850; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:31:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:29:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09514; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:29:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09477; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:29:40 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-501.gate.net [199.227.173.247]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA36176 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:29:35 -0500 Message-ID: <389885BA.D75A3C48@gate.net> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 14:30:02 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: double messages Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: not double meanings, just I am not getting TWO of each post.. probably a result of me e-mail address change and resubscribing twice.. :-) who can remove ONE so i receive only one of each post.. :-) -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 2 15:30:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA06568 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:30:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16156; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:27:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:25:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15858; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:25:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from erato.webcombo.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15845; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:25:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from erato.webcombo.net (207.250.9.21 -> mail.webcombo.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:25:20 -0500 Received: from 770z (1Cust194.tnt5.atl2.da.uu.net [63.22.44.194]) by erato.webcombo.net (8.9.3/[webCOMBO - ALL UCE PROHIBITED]) with SMTP id OAA17539; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:24:08 -0600 From: "Richard Chalk" To: , "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: double messages Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:24:56 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <389885BA.D75A3C48@gate.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: Bill, I changed e-mail addresses, and got the messages via both for a few days. Then the system caught up, and the old address stopped receiving them. Richard -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 2:30 PM To: ThinkPad List Subject: double messages not double meanings, just I am not getting TWO of each post.. probably a result of me e-mail address change and resubscribing twice.. :-) who can remove ONE so i receive only one of each post.. :-) -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 2 15:44:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA06723 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:44:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17318; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:35:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17037; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:35:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17024; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (171.64.14.23 -> smtp.Stanford.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:35:34 -0500 Received: from stanford.edu (banquo.Stanford.EDU [171.66.3.116]) by smtp.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06179 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:35:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38989509.26631D86@stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 12:35:21 -0800 From: Benjamin Koh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: The VOTE..!! References: <38988534.7BB14036@gate.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill, Moderating it yourself is probably the best way. Myself, I prefer to read entire pages of complaints or compliments, with links at the top. A threaded forum makes reading slow and difficult, IMHO. One example of a complaint page whose format I like is against Fry's Electronics. The URL is http://www.accesscom.com/~dave6592/frys.html. For those of us unfamiliar with Fry's this is a good introduction. It's a little out of date, and Fry's has started hiring floor staff with some technical knowledge, but it's a still a good read. It actually extends to 18 (!) pages, but the first few pages should give you the gist of the topic. Still, if you're like me and can't stop at page one, it's quite an experience reading every incident. This page mixes the compliments and complaints, though, and I would like the new bouquet/brickbat pages to be separate. I would like each incident dated and linked, with the newest incidents at the top, and the oldest ones moved to another page. To me, it allows for rapid browsing for updates, and simple chronological reading for newcomers. Benjamin Bill Morrow wrote: > > so FAR, all are in favor, with one caution that the complaints should be > documented.. > > what i think can be the easiest way to implement this is to add two > sections to me confrence.. and moderate it myself, so that flames and > unreasonable complaints would need to be passed on, by me, or who ever > wants to moderate that confrence.. > > i WAS, initially, thinking of accepting the comments by e-mail and then > publish them in a page devoted to the subject.. > no threads or anything, just compliments and complaints.. > > also, the web site is easier to just look at than the open forum with > two new confrences on compliments and complaints.. > > so, any thoughts on this would be appreciated.. :-) > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 2 16:07:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA06907 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 16:07:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19720; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:58:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:57:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19457; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19444; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:57:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (216.32.180.196 -> law2-f272.hotmail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:57:27 -0500 Received: (qmail 40862 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2000 20:57:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20000202205726.40861.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.15.93.218 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 12:57:26 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.15.93.218] From: "Rat Boy" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 12:57:26 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph Wed Feb 2 22:28:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA09664 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:28:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19359; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:21:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18905; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:21:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer.psc.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18878; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:21:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer.psc.edu (128.182.58.100 -> mailer.psc.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:21:05 -0500 Received: from noquarter (scott.slip.psc.edu [128.182.51.65]) by mailer.psc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/psc) with ESMTP id WAA09568 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:21:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000202221656.015a6e80@alpha.vms.psc.edu> X-Sender: scott@alpha.vms.psc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 22:20:55 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "J. Ray Scott" Subject: Using the Mic in on a 570 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I'm using a new 570 and would like to record using using a mic plugged in to the mic in hole on the side of the machine. It's not working. No sound is recorded. I can record just fine if I pull the mic out and talk at the box, letting the internal mic pick it up. "Fine", but it sounds awful. I've been through all the mixer selections, making sure the mic was selected, etc. I've tried a couple different programs and two different mic's. Thanks. J Ray Scott From cph Wed Feb 2 23:39:15 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA09927 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:39:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23413; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:37:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:33:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23068; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:33:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23053; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:32:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:33:00 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax23.vramp.net [198.138.8.86]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA20976; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:32:14 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "J. Ray Scott" , Subject: RE: Using the Mic in on a 570 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:32:41 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000202221656.015a6e80@alpha.vms.psc.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: The external mike connector on the Thinkpads requires either a pre-amp or an amplified microphone. It's line level input only. Regards, James > -----Original Message----- > From: J. Ray Scott [mailto:scott@psc.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 10:21 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Using the Mic in on a 570 > > > I'm using a new 570 and would like to record using using a mic plugged in > to the mic in hole on the side of the machine. It's not working. No sound > is recorded. I can record just fine if I pull the mic out and talk at the > box, letting the internal mic pick it up. "Fine", but it sounds > awful. I've been through all the mixer selections, making sure the mic > was selected, etc. > I've tried a couple different programs and two different mic's. > > Thanks. J Ray Scott > From cph Wed Feb 2 23:40:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA09950 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:40:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23623; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:39:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:35:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23190; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:35:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23177; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:34:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (206.180.224.3 -> tdl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:34:58 -0500 Received: from chuck (pm1i-233.tdl.com [206.180.234.233]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA05775 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 20:35:05 -0800 Message-Id: <200002030435.UAA05775@tdl.tdl.com> From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 20:34:52 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Help rundll32 error message Reply-to: cblaisd@tdl.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) List-Unsubscribe: Help! All of a sudden I've started having a problem on my 380ED. When I click on one of my dialup network connections, about 3 times out of 5 now I get an error box that says "Rundll32 An error has occured in your program, etc, etc." with the Close or Ignore options. Ignore has no effect and Close then gives me a second, more standard looking dialog box that says Rundll32 has perfomred and illegal operation....etc." After pressing "close" I can occasionally now use a dialup network connection, but much of the time when clicking on that dialup I get a blue screeen, and "pressing any key" gives me two more such screens, and then the screen goes black. I've re-extracted run32dll.exe to the c:\windows file but that didn't help. I opened windows in safe mode and then shut down and rebooted normally, but that didn't help. Any clues!!? Thanks in advance. From cph Wed Feb 2 23:54:24 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA10031 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:54:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24937; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:52:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:48:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24513; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:48:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24499; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:48:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (206.184.139.14 -> proxy2.ba.best.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:48:06 -0500 Received: from dgoldman (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id UAA18925 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 20:47:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.1.20000202204309.00e0cbb0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 20:46:57 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: Using the Mic in on a 570 In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000202221656.015a6e80@alpha.vms.psc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 07:20 PM 2/2/2000 , J. Ray Scott wrote: >I'm using a new 570 and would like to record using using a mic plugged in to the mic in hole on the side of the machine. It's not working. No sound is recorded. I can record just fine if I pull the mic out and talk at the box, letting the internal mic pick it up. "Fine", but it sounds awful. I've been through all the mixer selections, making sure the mic was selected, etc. >I've tried a couple different programs and two different mic's. This problem has come up on the list a number of times before and involving a number of different Thinkpad models. As Birger Petterson was kind enough to point out to me: >You need ThinkPad Adapter Converter or Bias Battery Box. > >Go to www.speechcontrol.com to see photos and read article on mikes. > >Nothing wrong with your ThinkPad. As a temporary measure, you might find that pulling the mic out just a little bit from the jack will fix the problem. However, it's been my experience that the "ThinkPad Adapter Converter" is the right solution in the long run. -- David Goldman From cph Thu Feb 3 00:15:09 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA10187 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:15:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26895; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:13:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:09:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26618; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:09:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26605; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.217.152 -> ah-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:08:59 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.3) id AAA27221 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:08:57 -0500 (EST) Sender: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us Received: from atl-tgn-ydc-vty11.as.wcom.net (atl-tgn-ydc-vty11.as.wcom.net [216.192.179.11]) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.3) with ESMTP id AAA26850 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:08:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:08:24 -0600 From: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.38e) S/N 514531BD / Personal Reply-To: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7964.000202@falkor.chi.il.us> To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 770ED Resets Itself Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello ThinkPad Users, Lately, my 770ED has been annoying me a bit. A couple of times a week, I'm going along working with no apparent problems, when the system just decides to do a full reset -- black screen to ThinkPad logo to boot sequence. No "odd" behavior from Windows 95 (original pre-load). No funny noises. No shutdown or termination of programs in any sort of controlled or graceful fashion. Just *boom*. I have not been able to tie these instances to any particular activity on the system. Sometimes, I'm connected to the Internet via Ethernet, sometimes via modem, sometimes not at all. Sometimes I'm editing a file in Word 97. Sometimes I'm not. Sometimes it happens at about the same time as I fire up a new application. Sometimes it happens when I save a file. Sometimes it happens when I load a CD in the DVD drive. Naturally, my first suspect is Windows 95. But, I figured it might be useful to ask here whether anyone has seen this kind of behavior and whether it might correspond to a hardware problem. Thanks! Ron. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 Comment: Digital signature verifies authorship and unaltered content. iQA/AwUBOJkNQm8pw+2/9pUJEQIB4wCg3pnfNuz1Le2LKvjH3kfW4jQ9tZcAoJvo DuWAbhr41CySAepVANUK3Shu =GU7E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph Thu Feb 3 02:00:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA10665 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 02:00:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02364; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 01:58:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 01:56:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02092; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 01:56:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02079; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 01:56:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 01:56:05 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA10365; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 20:55:59 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001b01bf6e13$bcd0d5a0$ed62183f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: , References: <200002030435.UAA05775@tdl.tdl.com> Subject: Re: Help rundll32 error message Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 20:55:57 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: |When I click on one of my dialup network connections, about 3 times out | of 5 now I get an error box that says "Rundll32 An error has You might be able to get rid of this by installing the latest version of Dial-Up Networking, which I think is still MSDUN1.3 You should be able to find this at the MS web site. It installs very cleanly, i.e., preserves your old settings. - David R. From cph Thu Feb 3 02:04:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA10680 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 02:04:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02777; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 02:02:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 02:01:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02642; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 02:01:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02629; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 02:01:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (206.180.224.3 -> tdl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 02:01:05 -0500 Received: from chuck (pm1i-234.tdl.com [206.180.234.234]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA16270; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:01:12 -0800 Message-Id: <200002030701.XAA16270@tdl.tdl.com> From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: "David Ross" Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:01:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Help rundll32 error message Reply-to: cblaisd@tdl.com CC: Priority: normal In-reply-to: <001b01bf6e13$bcd0d5a0$ed62183f@math.hawaii.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) List-Unsubscribe: On 2 Feb 00, at 20:55, David Ross wrote: > You might be able to get rid of this by installing the latest version of > Dial-Up Networking, > which I think is still MSDUN1.3 > > You should be able to find this at the MS web site. It installs very cleanly, > i.e., preserves your old > settings. > Oh, sorry, forgot to mention that I did indeed re-install DUN 1.3 before sending my note. Didn't help. From cph Thu Feb 3 09:42:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA12316 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:42:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02799; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:40:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:38:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02505; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:38:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from bingsun2.cc.binghamton.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02492; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:38:00 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from bingsun2.cc.binghamton.edu (128.226.6.4 -> bingsun2.cc.binghamton.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:38:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (bg21331@localhost) by bingsun2.cc.binghamton.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10677 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:37:58 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: bingsun2.cc.binghamton.edu: bg21331 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:37:58 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: bg21331@bingsun2 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP760CD in trouble Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I have a seriously troubled TP 760CD, P90, 40MB, 1.2GB HD. IBM 760CD was up and running. I closed the top and put it away (not connected to mains). Opened it up and nothing happens (blank screen, hard drive not engaging, but power still coming into machine). Try to switch off using power switch - safety device won't allow me to do this. Opened up the keyboard, took out and reinstalled battery and hard drive. Now the laptop will switch on and off using the power switch but HD will not engage. Though I'm guessing, I think either the battery or motherboard are dead or the HD has frozen. Options now are to find a fellow with the same (or similar) laptop and test battery and HD individually. Hopefully I can recover my data that way. If anyone can offer suggestions about how to recussitate my laptop or just get the data from the HD I would be eternally grateful. I have most stuff backed up but it's the loss that hurts most! Cheers, Ian Lunt From cph Thu Feb 3 10:23:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA12552 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:23:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06540; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:22:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:20:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06333; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06311; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:20:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:20:06 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax57.vramp.net [198.138.8.120]) by water.vramp.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA27332; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:19:08 -0500 (EST) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: , Subject: RE: TP760CD in trouble Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:19:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Ian Lunt wrote: > I have a seriously troubled TP 760CD, P90, 40MB, 1.2GB HD. > If anyone can offer suggestions about how to recussitate my laptop or just > get the data from the HD I would be eternally grateful. I have most stuff > backed up but it's the loss that hurts most! Take the following with a large grain of salt given how wrong I was about the Thinkpad mike inputs! :-) But my 760XL exhibited this same behavior (stone cold dead!) and it turned out to be a dead CMOS battery. I've also just corrected this same condition in my brother in law's TP750C with the installation of a new CMOS battery. What happens if you start the unit with the battery and hard drive out and enter EZSetup? Correct date and time shown? The batteries are available from IBM for approx. $17 IIRC. Regards, James From cph Thu Feb 3 11:59:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA13214 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:59:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14807; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:56:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:54:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14498; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:54:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from asimov.dns-host.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14474; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from asimov.dns-host.com (209.235.102.23 -> asimov.dns-host.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:54:19 -0500 Received: from sod2038 ([137.53.68.115]) by asimov.dns-host.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA23469 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:54:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002b01bf6e67$39cbaf00$73443589@ohsu.edu> From: "AC Brown" To: Subject: Re: TP 570 external microphone input Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 08:53:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01BF6E24.2A58BD80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BF6E24.2A58BD80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also have a TP 570 and encountered the same problem with the microphone/headset, Andrea ANC-600, that I ordered from Speech Controlled Computer Systems. Going by the information in the SCCS and Andrea (www.andreaelectronics.com) web sites, I ordered the Thinkpad Adapter (Andrea T100) along with the headset. However, the Thinkpad Adapter didn't work with the TP 570 because the TP570 doesn't have the metal outer shell power tap present on some earlier TPs. Instead, the TP 570 is "SoundBlaster compatible", which I guess means that the power tap is the tip of the microphone jack. To use this, you need the Andrea P100 Power Plug Adapter, which came free with the ANC-600 that I ordered from SCCS. =20 Using the P100 on the microphone input, the microphone worked fine. Hope this helps. Arthur Brown ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BF6E24.2A58BD80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I also have a TP 570 and encountered = the same=20 problem with the
microphone/headset, Andrea ANC-600, that I ordered = from=20 Speech
Controlled Computer Systems.  Going by the information in = the
SCCS and Andrea  (www.andreaelectronics.com) = web=20 sites, I
ordered the Thinkpad Adapter (Andrea T100) along with=20 the
headset.
 
However, the Thinkpad Adapter didn't = work with the=20 TP 570 because
the TP570 doesn't have the metal outer shell power tap = present=20 on
some earlier TPs.  Instead, the TP 570 is "SoundBlaster=20 compatible",
which I guess means that the power tap is the tip of the = microphone
jack.  To use this, you need the Andrea P100 Power = Plug=20 Adapter,
which came free with the ANC-600 that I ordered from = SCCS. =20
Using the P100 on the microphone input, the microphone worked=20 fine.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Arthur Brown
 
------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BF6E24.2A58BD80-- From cph Thu Feb 3 12:00:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA13235 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:00:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15127; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:58:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:56:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14852; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:56:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14820; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:56:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.49 -> scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:56:51 -0500 Received: from miles (ip57.an11-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.22.57]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA16549 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 08:56:48 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: Subject: Linux to be preloaded on Thinkpads Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:56:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: At the Linuxworld trade show in New York, the head of IBM's new Linux group, Irving Wladawsky-Berger, said the company would ship Linux preloaded on thin clients, Netfinity servers -- and Thinkpads. Soooooo: When do you think we can get working code for Mwave modems? dn http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20000202S0005 From cph Thu Feb 3 12:00:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA13239 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:00:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15341; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:57:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15003; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14986; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.91 -> anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:57:33 -0500 Received: from moab.demon.co.uk ([158.152.127.170]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12GPZO-000Jb6-0X for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:57:26 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:55:33 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Greg Terrell Subject: Re: TP760CD in trouble References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U List-Unsubscribe: It's a couple of years since I used a 760CD, but occasionally it did lock up and the power switch was ineffective. Have you tried the reset button on the back? Greg In message , bg21331@binghamton.edu writes > >I have a seriously troubled TP 760CD, P90, 40MB, 1.2GB HD. > >IBM 760CD was up and running. I closed the top and put it away (not >connected to mains). Opened it up and nothing happens (blank screen, hard >drive not engaging, but power still coming into machine). Try to switch >off using power switch - safety device won't allow me to do this. Opened >up the keyboard, took out and reinstalled battery and hard drive. Now the >laptop will switch on and off using the power switch but HD will not >engage. > >Though I'm guessing, I think either the battery or motherboard are dead or >the HD has frozen. Options now are to find a fellow with the same (or >similar) laptop and test battery and HD individually. Hopefully I can >recover my data that way. > >If anyone can offer suggestions about how to recussitate my laptop or just >get the data from the HD I would be eternally grateful. I have most stuff >backed up but it's the loss that hurts most! > >Cheers, Ian Lunt > > > > -- Greg Terrell From cph Thu Feb 3 12:13:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA13412 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:13:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16897; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:11:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:09:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16697; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:09:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16677; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:09:35 -0500 Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA04864; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:09:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:09:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" To: David Newman cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux to be preloaded on Thinkpads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Ummm... there're already working drivers. Thinkpad 600Es are one of the two "supported" notebook platforms here at Cisco, and I know of at least one or two Linux users who've gotten their MWave modems working with the Lucent drivers. Mind you, they're binary (no source, *sigh*), but it works. If they're going to start pre-loading it, I'll be surprised if they don't get it going. -Ken On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, David Newman wrote: > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:56:52 -0500 > From: David Newman > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Linux to be preloaded on Thinkpads > > > At the Linuxworld trade show in New York, the head of IBM's new Linux group, > Irving Wladawsky-Berger, said the company would ship Linux preloaded on thin > clients, Netfinity servers -- and Thinkpads. > > Soooooo: When do you think we can get working code for Mwave modems? > > dn > > http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20000202S0005 > > > From cph Thu Feb 3 12:30:09 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA13550 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:30:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18909; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:27:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:25:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18748; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:25:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18734; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.49 -> scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:25:35 -0500 Received: from miles (ip57.an11-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.22.57]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA00621; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:24:42 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: "Ken D'Ambrosio" Cc: Subject: RE: Linux to be preloaded on Thinkpads Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:24:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > Ummm... there're already working drivers. Thinkpad 600Es are one of the > two "supported" notebook platforms here at Cisco, and I know of at least > one or two Linux users who've gotten their MWave modems working with the > Lucent drivers. Mind you, they're binary (no source, *sigh*), but it > works. Ken, I'm not familiar with the Lucent drivers. Can you provide a pointer to them? Thanks. dn From cph Thu Feb 3 12:52:15 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA17355 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:52:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21815; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:49:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:47:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21556; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.psychonet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21532; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:47:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from vip.psychonet.net (24.113.61.37 -> cr634166-a.rct1.bc.wave.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:47:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (devel@localhost) by vip.psychonet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA29277; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:46:15 -0800 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:46:15 -0800 (PST) From: Steve To: "Ken D'Ambrosio" cc: David Newman , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux to be preloaded on Thinkpads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: There are no linux drivers for the IBM Mwave modem thats included in the 600e or the 770ed. There is a linux driver for the lucent modem thats included in the tp240 and the tp600x. The mwave and lucent modems are completely different :) The lucent driver can be downloaded from linmodems.org and has worked well for me the times I've used it in my 240 Steve On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: > Ummm... there're already working drivers. Thinkpad 600Es are one of the > two "supported" notebook platforms here at Cisco, and I know of at least > one or two Linux users who've gotten their MWave modems working with the > Lucent drivers. Mind you, they're binary (no source, *sigh*), but it > works. If they're going to start pre-loading it, I'll be surprised if > they don't get it going. > > -Ken > > On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, David Newman wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:56:52 -0500 > > From: David Newman > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Linux to be preloaded on Thinkpads > > > > > > At the Linuxworld trade show in New York, the head of IBM's new Linux group, > > Irving Wladawsky-Berger, said the company would ship Linux preloaded on thin > > clients, Netfinity servers -- and Thinkpads. > > > > Soooooo: When do you think we can get working code for Mwave modems? > > > > dn > > > > http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20000202S0005 > > > > > > > From cph Thu Feb 3 13:09:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA17477 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:09:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22991; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:59:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:57:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22674; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22659; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.49 -> scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:57:31 -0500 Received: from miles (ip57.an11-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.22.57]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA21992; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:56:33 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: "Steve" , "Ken D'Ambrosio" Cc: Subject: RE: Linux to be preloaded on Thinkpads Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:56:39 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: OK, now I'm totally confused. Ken says he knows folks who have the 600E Mwave DSP running under Linux, using Lucent drivers. Steve says only the 240 and 600X are supported because both use Lucent modems. I have a 600E and would dearly love to use the Mwave modem under Linux. Ken (or anyone), if you know of a way to do this please let the list know. Thanks. dn > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve [mailto:devel@psychonet.net] > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 12:46 PM > To: Ken D'Ambrosio > Cc: David Newman; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Linux to be preloaded on Thinkpads > > > There are no linux drivers for the IBM Mwave modem thats included in the > 600e or the 770ed. There is a linux driver for the lucent modem thats > included in the tp240 and the tp600x. The mwave and lucent modems are > completely different :) > > The lucent driver can be downloaded from linmodems.org and has worked well > for me the times I've used it in my 240 > > Steve > > On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: > > > Ummm... there're already working drivers. Thinkpad 600Es are one of the > > two "supported" notebook platforms here at Cisco, and I know of at least > > one or two Linux users who've gotten their MWave modems working with the > > Lucent drivers. Mind you, they're binary (no source, *sigh*), but it > > works. If they're going to start pre-loading it, I'll be surprised if > > they don't get it going. > > > > -Ken > > > > On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, David Newman wrote: > > > > > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:56:52 -0500 > > > From: David Newman > > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > > Subject: Linux to be preloaded on Thinkpads > > > > > > > > > At the Linuxworld trade show in New York, the head of IBM's > new Linux group, > > > Irving Wladawsky-Berger, said the company would ship Linux > preloaded on thin > > > clients, Netfinity servers -- and Thinkpads. > > > > > > Soooooo: When do you think we can get working code for Mwave modems? > > > > > > dn > > > > > > http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20000202S0005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > From cph Thu Feb 3 13:29:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA17655 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:29:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26047; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:26:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:25:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25864; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from bingsun2.cc.binghamton.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25849; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:25:09 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from bingsun2.cc.binghamton.edu (128.226.6.4 -> bingsun2.cc.binghamton.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:25:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (bg21331@localhost) by bingsun2.cc.binghamton.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00602; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:24:43 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: bingsun2.cc.binghamton.edu: bg21331 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:24:43 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: bg21331@bingsun2 To: "James H. E. Maugham" cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: TP760CD in trouble In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Thanks for the help folks - for those with similar troubles, it is up and running after being off for a few hours and a simple restart. Don't know the cause though. Cheers, Ian > But my 760XL exhibited this same behavior (stone cold dead!) and it turned out > to be a dead CMOS battery. I've also just corrected this same condition in my > brother in law's TP750C with the installation of a new CMOS battery. > > > I have a seriously troubled TP 760CD, P90, 40MB, 1.2GB HD. > > > -- ============================================================ Dept. of Geological Sciences State University of New York at Binghamton PO Box 6000 NY 13902-6000 USA From cph Thu Feb 3 13:31:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA17684 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:31:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26370; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:28:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:27:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26132; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26074; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:26:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:26:56 -0500 Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA14081; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:26:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:26:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" To: David Newman cc: Steve , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Linux to be preloaded on Thinkpads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Damn, damn, damn: mea culpa. It was the "other" supported Cisco notebook, the Toshiba Portege 7000 series (and probably, by extension, the Tecra 8000 series). I apologize for sending folk astray. -Ken On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, David Newman wrote: > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:56:39 -0500 > From: David Newman > To: Steve , Ken D'Ambrosio > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: RE: Linux to be preloaded on Thinkpads > > > OK, now I'm totally confused. Ken says he knows folks who have the 600E > Mwave DSP running under Linux, using Lucent drivers. Steve says only the 240 > and 600X are supported because both use Lucent modems. > > I have a 600E and would dearly love to use the Mwave modem under Linux. Ken > (or anyone), if you know of a way to do this please let the list know. > > Thanks. > > dn > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve [mailto:devel@psychonet.net] > > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 12:46 PM > > To: Ken D'Ambrosio > > Cc: David Newman; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Re: Linux to be preloaded on Thinkpads > > > > > > There are no linux drivers for the IBM Mwave modem thats included in the > > 600e or the 770ed. There is a linux driver for the lucent modem thats > > included in the tp240 and the tp600x. The mwave and lucent modems are > > completely different :) > > > > The lucent driver can be downloaded from linmodems.org and has worked well > > for me the times I've used it in my 240 > > > > Steve > > > > On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: > > > > > Ummm... there're already working drivers. Thinkpad 600Es are one of the > > > two "supported" notebook platforms here at Cisco, and I know of at least > > > one or two Linux users who've gotten their MWave modems working with the > > > Lucent drivers. Mind you, they're binary (no source, *sigh*), but it > > > works. If they're going to start pre-loading it, I'll be surprised if > > > they don't get it going. > > > > > > -Ken > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, David Newman wrote: > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:56:52 -0500 > > > > From: David Newman > > > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > > > Subject: Linux to be preloaded on Thinkpads > > > > > > > > > > > > At the Linuxworld trade show in New York, the head of IBM's > > new Linux group, > > > > Irving Wladawsky-Berger, said the company would ship Linux > > preloaded on thin > > > > clients, Netfinity servers -- and Thinkpads. > > > > > > > > Soooooo: When do you think we can get working code for Mwave modems? > > > > > > > > dn > > > > > > > > http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20000202S0005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From cph Thu Feb 3 14:01:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA17962 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:01:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00357; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:59:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:57:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00080; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from acunet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00066; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:57:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from acunet.net (208.203.130.2) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:57:18 -0500 Received: from xpool113.acunet.net (xpool113.acunet.net [208.208.7.113]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA00496 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:57:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002031857.NAA00496@acunet.net> From: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 13:59:11 -0500 Reply-To: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Video Strangeness on 770 List-Unsubscribe: I've got a factory refurbished Thinkpad 770 that I've had for over a year now. Aside from a bit of peeling paint from the palmrest area it has served me well. Recently, however, I've been experience random blanking of the display. The display will simply go black. I've checked my settings for the display under the power management and that doesn't seem to be the problem. The blanking of the display happens at random times anyway so I doubt it is related to the power management software. Once the screen blanks I can get the display to turn on again by hitting Fn + F7 to toggle the display between external/internal/external+internal. This has worked every time, but I've also seen the display blank again within seconds of turning it on. I've also noticed that the problem seems to occur more frequently soon after I restart from a suspend. Could it be that I'm seeing the beginning of the end for the display lamp? If so what kind of estimate can someone give me to have this repaired as I believe my unit is now out of warranty (one year on refurbed units) Just to be complete...I'm running Warp 4.0 fixpack 8 using the v1.2 video drivers available from the Thinkpad device driver matrix. I have not as yet booted to my Win95 partition to determine if the problem occurs there as well; something I will definately do before I opt to send the unit off for service. Jeff From cph Thu Feb 3 14:05:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA18009 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:05:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01825; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:02:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:00:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00947; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00750; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:00:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.17 -> mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:00:26 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.12.244]) by mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000203190012.UEGZ12791@701c> for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 19:00:12 +0000 Message-ID: <006901bf6e78$f7e564c0$f40c4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Thinkpad 730T Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:00:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. I have finished sending 4 copies of the mirror image of a 730T. This takes forever!. I am going out on the road and will return around the end of the month. Anyone needing 730 support, e-mail me. I will however, be out untill that time. Is there an easier/faster way to get a 730T running?. I simply plop the 730s drive into the 701C and copy/install files. The 701 makes this easy because I can swap its system drive as well as the PCMCIA drive with ease. Most people, however, need a mirror image to make their machine work, hence huge e-mails!. I takes me a fair amout of time to do this. Any ideas. I also am not sure about the license issue. The 730T is, I am told, legal with windows 3.xx as that is what it came with. Can I then supply a mirror to any one?. Thank you. From cph Thu Feb 3 14:10:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA18047 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:10:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02546; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:07:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:06:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02317; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:06:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02303; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:06:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:06:16 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-187.gate.net [199.227.20.250]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA146132; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:05:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3899D1AC.D4586E5D@gate.net> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 14:06:21 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeffrey D Grinnell CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Video Strangeness on 770 References: <200002031857.NAA00496@acunet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: My guess, based upon many thinkpads and several flat panel displays, its hardware and its only a matter of time.. Jeffrey D Grinnell wrote: > I've got a factory refurbished Thinkpad 770 that I've had for over a > year now. Aside from a bit of peeling paint from the palmrest area it > has served me well. > > Recently, however, I've been experience random blanking of the display. > The display will simply go black. I've checked my settings for the > display under the power management and that doesn't seem to be the > problem. The blanking of the display happens at random times anyway so > I doubt it is related to the power management software. > > Once the screen blanks I can get the display to turn on again by > hitting Fn + F7 to toggle the display between > external/internal/external+internal. This has worked every time, but > I've also seen the display blank again within seconds of turning it on. > > I've also noticed that the problem seems to occur more frequently soon > after I restart from a suspend. Could it be that I'm seeing the > beginning of the end for the display lamp? If so what kind of estimate > can someone give me to have this repaired as I believe my unit is now > out of warranty (one year on refurbed units) > > Just to be complete...I'm running Warp 4.0 fixpack 8 using the v1.2 > video drivers available from the Thinkpad device driver matrix. I have > not as yet booted to my Win95 partition to determine if the problem > occurs there as well; something I will definately do before I opt to > send the unit off for service. > > Jeff -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Thu Feb 3 14:12:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA18070 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:12:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02813; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:07:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02473; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:07:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02457; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:07:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:07:36 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-187.gate.net [199.227.20.250]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA78510; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:07:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3899D209.189F7C17@gate.net> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 14:07:53 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ronald W. Heiby" CC: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770ED Resets Itself References: <7964.000202@falkor.chi.il.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: check the memory.. "Ronald W. Heiby" wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello ThinkPad Users, > > Lately, my 770ED has been annoying me a bit. A couple of times a week, > I'm going along working with no apparent problems, when the system > just decides to do a full reset -- black screen to ThinkPad logo to > boot sequence. No "odd" behavior from Windows 95 (original pre-load). > No funny noises. No shutdown or termination of programs in any sort of > controlled or graceful fashion. Just *boom*. I have not been able to > tie these instances to any particular activity on the system. > Sometimes, I'm connected to the Internet via Ethernet, sometimes via > modem, sometimes not at all. Sometimes I'm editing a file in Word 97. > Sometimes I'm not. Sometimes it happens at about the same time as I > fire up a new application. Sometimes it happens when I save a file. > Sometimes it happens when I load a CD in the DVD drive. > > Naturally, my first suspect is Windows 95. But, I figured it might be > useful to ask here whether anyone has seen this kind of behavior and > whether it might correspond to a hardware problem. > > Thanks! Ron. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 > Comment: Digital signature verifies authorship and unaltered content. > > iQA/AwUBOJkNQm8pw+2/9pUJEQIB4wCg3pnfNuz1Le2LKvjH3kfW4jQ9tZcAoJvo > DuWAbhr41CySAepVANUK3Shu > =GU7E > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Thu Feb 3 14:14:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA18093 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:14:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03535; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:10:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03184; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:10:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange.optics.Arizona.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03169; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:10:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange.optics.Arizona.EDU (128.196.206.226 -> exchange.optics.arizona.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:10:29 -0500 Received: from spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu ([150.135.52.9]) by exchange.optics.Arizona.EDU with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 1HFNS7AF; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:10:27 -0700 Received: from europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU [150.135.52.30]) by spectra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07085; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:10:27 -0700 (MST) Received: (from stu@localhost) by europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) id MAA29429; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:10:27 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:10:27 -0700 (MST) From: Stuart Biggar Message-Id: <200002031910.MAA29429@europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> To: grinnell@acunet.net Subject: Re: Video Strangeness on 770 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 3 11:59:17 2000 > From: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" > To: "ThinkPad List" > Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 13:59:11 -0500 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subject: Video Strangeness on 770 > List-Unsubscribe: > > I've got a factory refurbished Thinkpad 770 that I've had for over a > year now. Aside from a bit of peeling paint from the palmrest area it > has served me well. > > Recently, however, I've been experience random blanking of the display. > The display will simply go black. I've checked my settings for the > display under the power management and that doesn't seem to be the > problem. The blanking of the display happens at random times anyway so > I doubt it is related to the power management software. > > Once the screen blanks I can get the display to turn on again by > hitting Fn + F7 to toggle the display between > external/internal/external+internal. This has worked every time, but > I've also seen the display blank again within seconds of turning it on. > > I've also noticed that the problem seems to occur more frequently soon > after I restart from a suspend. Could it be that I'm seeing the > beginning of the end for the display lamp? If so what kind of estimate > can someone give me to have this repaired as I believe my unit is now > out of warranty (one year on refurbed units) > > Just to be complete...I'm running Warp 4.0 fixpack 8 using the v1.2 > video drivers available from the Thinkpad device driver matrix. I have > not as yet booted to my Win95 partition to determine if the problem > occurs there as well; something I will definately do before I opt to > send the unit off for service. > > Jeff > > Jeff, I had a similar thing happen on my 770E (PII 266, 224 MB, 8 GB disk). I sent it to Easy Serv and they replaced the inverter board and the CPU card. Seems to have cured the problem. Note that the black screen problem I had was seen with two OSs (NT 4 SP3 as preloaded by IBM and Sun Solaris 7 x86 - a Unix variant). It turns out that what was happening was that the backlight was going off, probably due to a bad inverter board. With a very bright light I could see windows and the mouse pointer and the mouse still tracked and the window system responded - it was just VERY difficult to see anything. If I shut down and restarted, the backlight would work for an unpredictable time and then it would shut off again... Every once in a while I would get a variation in the display brightness, almost like a flicker. One time I could also hear a high pitched whine when the flickering was happening - probably the inverter operating at too low a frequency, especially as I have poor high frequency hearing due to noise exposure as a helicopter pilot (and age). I called IBM and they set up a return to Easy Serv. They promised 4-5 day turn around but it was more like 10. My 770E does now work like it should. Good luck, Stuart From cph Thu Feb 3 14:15:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA18115 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:15:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03368; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:11:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:09:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02991; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from acunet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02976; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:09:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from acunet.net (208.203.130.2) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:09:50 -0500 Received: from xpool113.acunet.net (xpool113.acunet.net [208.208.7.113]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA01364 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:09:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002031909.OAA01364@acunet.net> From: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 14:11:42 -0500 Reply-To: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Video Strangeness on 770 List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 03 Feb 2000 14:06:21 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >My guess, based upon many thinkpads and several flat panel displays, its >hardware and its only a matter of time.. I was afraid of that. Guess I better ensure all my critical data is on my desktop. Though if it IS only the lamp I may be able to get away with using the external display for a bit. Thanks for the input. Jeff > > >Jeffrey D Grinnell wrote: > >> I've got a factory refurbished Thinkpad 770 that I've had for over a >> year now. Aside from a bit of peeling paint from the palmrest area it >> has served me well. >> >> Recently, however, I've been experience random blanking of the display. >> The display will simply go black. I've checked my settings for the >> display under the power management and that doesn't seem to be the >> problem. The blanking of the display happens at random times anyway so >> I doubt it is related to the power management software. From cph Thu Feb 3 14:25:31 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA18181 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:25:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05357; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:23:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:21:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04981; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:21:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04955; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:21:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.17 -> mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:21:27 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.12.188]) by mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000203192120.UMPP12791@701c>; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 19:21:20 +0000 Message-ID: <007101bf6e7b$eb194d80$f40c4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Cc: Subject: 730T Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:16:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. For anyone who cannot even make the 730T boot. The 730T should boot on anything that you load to it, If you have laptop. Make a recovery disk. format your PCMCIA drive from your 730T with the /s command to put the system on that drive, then x-copy the recovery floppy to the 730Ts drive. This will give you enough to boot from the 730T. If this does not work, enter setup, this is done by touching the suspend button with the stylus and at the same time holding the white power button down. This should bring you to ez setup, nothing like ez serve. You can test your hard drive from there. From cph Thu Feb 3 14:26:14 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA18190 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:26:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04847; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:21:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:19:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04676; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from acunet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04643; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from acunet.net (208.203.130.2) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:19:33 -0500 Received: from xpool113.acunet.net (xpool113.acunet.net [208.208.7.113]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA02257 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:19:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002031919.OAA02257@acunet.net> From: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 14:21:26 -0500 Reply-To: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Video Strangeness on 770 List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:10:27 -0700 (MST), Stuart Biggar wrote: >> >> I've got a factory refurbished Thinkpad 770 that I've had for over a >> year now. Aside from a bit of peeling paint from the palmrest area it >> has served me well. >> >> Recently, however, I've been experience random blanking of the display. >> The display will simply go black. I've checked my settings for the >> display under the power management and that doesn't seem to be the >> problem. The blanking of the display happens at random times anyway so >> I doubt it is related to the power management software. >I had a similar thing happen on my 770E (PII 266, 224 MB, 8 GB disk). > >I sent it to Easy Serv and they replaced the inverter board and the >CPU card. Seems to have cured the problem. > > >I called IBM and they set up a return to Easy Serv. They promised >4-5 day turn around but it was more like 10. My 770E does now work >like it should. > Thanks for the information. Argg...I just wish this was covered under warranty, but that ran dry a few months ago. (Why does everything break right AFTER the warranty expires?) I'll have to call IBM. Maybe this is a known defect and they'll be willing to service it for free though it's out of warranty. It's worth a call to find out anyway. Now I've got to track down the service number and all of my paperwork. Thanks again. Jeff From cph Thu Feb 3 14:40:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA18295 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:40:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07439; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:37:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:36:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07121; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:36:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07098; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:36:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:36:09 -0500 Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA23708; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:35:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:35:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" To: Jeffrey D Grinnell cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Video Strangeness on 770 In-Reply-To: <200002031919.OAA02257@acunet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: One thing you might do (since it's out of warranty), *IF* you're handy with screwdrivers and zillions of parts, is to reseat the video cable. It requires a non-trivial amount of unscrewing, and remembering where things go, but more than once I've seen it fix video problems that are virtually identical to what you're talking about. If it weren't for the fact that you're out of warranty, I wouldn't've even brought it up. -Ken P.S. I've never done this on a 770 before, so I don't know how that one works -- but I doubt it's terribly different than other Thinkpads and Toshibas that I've cracked open before. On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Jeffrey D Grinnell wrote: > Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 14:21:26 -0500 > From: Jeffrey D Grinnell > To: ThinkPad List > Subject: Re: Video Strangeness on 770 > > On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:10:27 -0700 (MST), Stuart Biggar wrote: > > >> > >> I've got a factory refurbished Thinkpad 770 that I've had for over a > >> year now. Aside from a bit of peeling paint from the palmrest area it > >> has served me well. > >> > >> Recently, however, I've been experience random blanking of the display. > >> The display will simply go black. I've checked my settings for the > >> display under the power management and that doesn't seem to be the > >> problem. The blanking of the display happens at random times anyway so > >> I doubt it is related to the power management software. > >I had a similar thing happen on my 770E (PII 266, 224 MB, 8 GB disk). > > > >I sent it to Easy Serv and they replaced the inverter board and the > >CPU card. Seems to have cured the problem. > > > > > >I called IBM and they set up a return to Easy Serv. They promised > >4-5 day turn around but it was more like 10. My 770E does now work > >like it should. > > > > Thanks for the information. Argg...I just wish this was covered under > warranty, but that ran dry a few months ago. (Why does everything > break right AFTER the warranty expires?) > > I'll have to call IBM. Maybe this is a known defect and they'll be > willing to service it for free though it's out of warranty. It's worth > a call to find out anyway. Now I've got to track down the service > number and all of my paperwork. > > Thanks again. > > Jeff > > > From cph Thu Feb 3 14:45:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA18396 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:45:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07985; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:43:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:41:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07803; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07789; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:41:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.17 -> mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:41:46 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.12.188]) by mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000203194144.UUQR12791@701c> for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 19:41:44 +0000 Message-ID: <008701bf6e7e$c1a03560$f40c4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: IBM service Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:41:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: 1 800 772 2227 Ibm support. They will usually connect you to the correct department. From cph Thu Feb 3 15:11:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA18642 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:11:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11240; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:08:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:05:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10893; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:05:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot015.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10871; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:05:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot015.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.115 -> pilot015.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:05:08 -0500 Received: from andres (andres-53.user.msu.edu [35.10.64.76]) by pilot015.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA65148 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 15:05:02 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000203150515.00a56d70@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 15:05:15 -0500 To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Video Strangeness on 770 In-Reply-To: References: <200002031919.OAA02257@acunet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I've been thinking about this today while working. At first I was thinking that it might be the cable, but if it were, why would a video reset from LCD to external clear it? I'm thinking that its more like a power supply problem for the background light, or in the control logic that routes the video signal. If it were a cabling problem I don't think you could always fix it by software commands. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 02:35 PM 2/3/2000 -0500, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: >One thing you might do (since it's out of warranty), *IF* you're handy >with screwdrivers and zillions of parts, is to reseat the video cable. >It requires a non-trivial amount of unscrewing, and remembering where >things go, but more than once I've seen it fix video problems that are >virtually identical to what you're talking about. If it weren't for the >fact that you're out of warranty, I wouldn't've even brought it up. > >-Ken From cph Thu Feb 3 16:16:26 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA19273 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:16:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18144; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:13:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:11:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17784; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:11:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17694; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (166.72.104.136 -> slip166-72-104-136.nj.us.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:11:17 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01bf6e8a$e703ee80$886848a6@cijeczcig1x68u> From: "Donald Mak" To: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" , "ThinkPad List" References: <200002031857.NAA00496@acunet.net> Subject: Re: Video Strangeness on 770 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:09:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: The 770's must have had some bad inverter cards as I had the same problem and have answered on this previously. Yes, the problem will get worse. Eventually the screen will continue to become darker and the 'blackouts' more frequent until the point that it is permanent and you cannot read the screen anymore. I'll try to find the repair statement that came with my unit after the repair and get you a part number. My unit was still under warranty so I don't think it will have a price but you can always call IBM for a quote. Donald Mak ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeffrey D Grinnell To: ThinkPad List Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 1:59 PM Subject: Video Strangeness on 770 > I've got a factory refurbished Thinkpad 770 that I've had for over a > year now. Aside from a bit of peeling paint from the palmrest area it > has served me well. > > Recently, however, I've been experience random blanking of the display. > The display will simply go black. I've checked my settings for the > display under the power management and that doesn't seem to be the > problem. The blanking of the display happens at random times anyway so > I doubt it is related to the power management software. > > Once the screen blanks I can get the display to turn on again by > hitting Fn + F7 to toggle the display between > external/internal/external+internal. This has worked every time, but > I've also seen the display blank again within seconds of turning it on. > > I've also noticed that the problem seems to occur more frequently soon > after I restart from a suspend. Could it be that I'm seeing the > beginning of the end for the display lamp? If so what kind of estimate > can someone give me to have this repaired as I believe my unit is now > out of warranty (one year on refurbed units) > > Just to be complete...I'm running Warp 4.0 fixpack 8 using the v1.2 > video drivers available from the Thinkpad device driver matrix. I have > not as yet booted to my Win95 partition to determine if the problem > occurs there as well; something I will definately do before I opt to > send the unit off for service. > > Jeff > > From cph Thu Feb 3 16:50:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA19538 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:50:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21866; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:45:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21613; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:45:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from MERCURY.SIGMADATA.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21599; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:45:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from MERCURY.SIGMADATA.COM (12.6.229.226 -> mail.sigmadata.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:45:47 -0500 Received: by MERCURY with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:36:16 -0500 Message-ID: <1777E5CBD1C1D1118BE100600895FFFA43DFFC@MERCURY> From: Skip Johnson To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Video Strangeness on 770 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:36:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: If it were just backlight, you would be able to still see the image somewhat. Is it gone completely or just no backlight? Skip Johnson Sigma Data (603) 526-7100 ext. 119 skip.johnson@sigmadata.com http://www.sigmadata.com -----Original Message----- From: STeve Andre' [SMTP:andres@msu.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 3:05 PM To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Video Strangeness on 770 I've been thinking about this today while working. At first I was thinking that it might be the cable, but if it were, why would a video reset from LCD to external clear it? I'm thinking that its more like a power supply problem for the background light, or in the control logic that routes the video signal. If it were a cabling problem I don't think you could always fix it by software commands. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 02:35 PM 2/3/2000 -0500, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: >One thing you might do (since it's out of warranty), *IF* you're handy >with screwdrivers and zillions of parts, is to reseat the video cable. >It requires a non-trivial amount of unscrewing, and remembering where >things go, but more than once I've seen it fix video problems that are >virtually identical to what you're talking about. If it weren't for the >fact that you're out of warranty, I wouldn't've even brought it up. > >-Ken From cph Thu Feb 3 18:03:39 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA20110 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:03:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28704; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:59:48 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28386; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:59:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:59:47 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id SAA28310 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:00:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww156.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11305; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:17:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from ww156.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.56 -> ww156.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:17:27 -0500 Received: (qmail 22103 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Feb 2000 16:17:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20000203161726.22102.qmail@ww156.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.56 by ww156 for [205.144.113.2] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Thu Feb 3 16:17:26 GMT 2000 Date: 3 Feb 00 10:17:26 CST From: Rob Bell To: "Ronald W. Heiby" , ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770ED Resets Itself X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id SAA20111 Ron, When this happens, are you plugged in or on battery power? After replacing a 32MB memory chip with a 64MB one, I have had this same experience when running Win98 on battery power on my 770. It never happens while plugged in. It also doesn't happen under NT4 when on battery. If you've recently changed RAM configuration or have been working from battery more often lately, then maybe you're experiencing the same thing. HTH, Rob "Ronald W. Heiby" wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello ThinkPad Users, > > Lately, my 770ED has been annoying me a bit. A couple of times a week, > I'm going along working with no apparent problems, when the system > just decides to do a full reset -- black screen to ThinkPad logo to > boot sequence. No "odd" behavior from Windows 95 (original pre-load). > No funny noises. No shutdown or termination of programs in any sort of > controlled or graceful fashion. Just *boom*. I have not been able to > tie these instances to any particular activity on the system. > Sometimes, I'm connected to the Internet via Ethernet, sometimes via > modem, sometimes not at all. Sometimes I'm editing a file in Word 97. > Sometimes I'm not. Sometimes it happens at about the same time as I > fire up a new application. Sometimes it happens when I save a file. > Sometimes it happens when I load a CD in the DVD drive. > > Naturally, my first suspect is Windows 95. But, I figured it might be > useful to ask here whether anyone has seen this kind of behavior and > whether it might correspond to a hardware problem. > > Thanks! Ron. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Thu Feb 3 23:27:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA22227 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:27:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19200; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:25:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:23:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18987; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:23:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18974; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (206.180.224.3 -> tdl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:23:34 -0500 Received: from chuck (pm1i-203.tdl.com [206.180.234.203]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA22971 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 20:23:32 -0800 Message-Id: <200002040423.UAA22971@tdl.tdl.com> From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 20:23:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Making a startup disk with CD Rom enabled Reply-to: cblaisd@tdl.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) List-Unsubscribe: Another question: I'm looking at upgrading to Win98SE, but want to do a clean install. To do so I need access to the CD ROM. I've made a Win95 startup disk, and looked at the dosstart.bat file. It says that to access the CD ROM the parameter of my MSCDEX file must match that exactly of the one referenced in my config.sys file. But there is no such reference in my config.sys file! Any easy instructions on how to make a startup disk that will let me boot and access the CD ROM? I have a 380ED Thanks. From cph Thu Feb 3 23:52:39 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA22352 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:52:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20770; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:50:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:50:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20683; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:50:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20669; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:50:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.31 -> out1.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:50:18 -0500 Received: from oscar ([32.100.143.141]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <2000020404501425200fh6mfe>; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 04:50:16 +0000 Message-ID: <001501bf6eca$d963aaa0$8d8f6420@oscar> Reply-To: "Tom Franklin" From: "Tom Franklin" To: "AC Brown" Cc: "ThinkPad List" References: <002b01bf6e67$39cbaf00$73443589@ohsu.edu> Subject: Re: TP 570 external microphone input Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 21:46:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01BF6E90.21A87F60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BF6E90.21A87F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a Thinkpad 600 and my Labtec LVA-8450 headset won't work. Do you = think I need the Andrea P100 Power Plug Adapter also? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: AC Brown=20 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 9:53 AM Subject: Re: TP 570 external microphone input I also have a TP 570 and encountered the same problem with the microphone/headset, Andrea ANC-600, that I ordered from Speech Controlled Computer Systems. Going by the information in the SCCS and Andrea (www.andreaelectronics.com) web sites, I ordered the Thinkpad Adapter (Andrea T100) along with the headset. However, the Thinkpad Adapter didn't work with the TP 570 because the TP570 doesn't have the metal outer shell power tap present on some earlier TPs. Instead, the TP 570 is "SoundBlaster compatible", which I guess means that the power tap is the tip of the microphone jack. To use this, you need the Andrea P100 Power Plug Adapter, which came free with the ANC-600 that I ordered from SCCS. =20 Using the P100 on the microphone input, the microphone worked fine. Hope this helps. Arthur Brown ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BF6E90.21A87F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a Thinkpad 600 and my Labtec = LVA-8450=20 headset won't work.  Do you think I need the Andrea P100 Power Plug = Adapter=20 also?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 AC = Brown=20
Sent: Thursday, February 03, = 2000 9:53=20 AM
Subject: Re: TP 570 external = microphone=20 input

I also have a TP 570 and encountered = the same=20 problem with the
microphone/headset, Andrea ANC-600, that I ordered = from=20 Speech
Controlled Computer Systems.  Going by the information = in=20 the
SCCS and Andrea  (www.andreaelectronics.com) = web=20 sites, I
ordered the Thinkpad Adapter (Andrea T100) along with = the
headset.
 
However, the Thinkpad Adapter didn't = work with=20 the TP 570 because
the TP570 doesn't have the metal outer shell = power tap=20 present on
some earlier TPs.  Instead, the TP 570 is = "SoundBlaster=20 compatible",
which I guess means that the power tap is the tip of = the=20 microphone
jack.  To use this, you need the Andrea P100 Power = Plug=20 Adapter,
which came free with the ANC-600 that I ordered from = SCCS. =20
Using the P100 on the microphone input, the microphone worked=20 fine.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Arthur Brown
 
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BF6E90.21A87F60-- From cph Fri Feb 4 00:57:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA22678 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 00:57:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24030; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 00:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 00:55:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23953; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 00:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23939; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 00:55:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.42 -> mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 00:55:12 -0500 Received: from worldnet.att.net ([12.72.59.239]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with ESMTP id <20000204055509.TMJP13032@worldnet.att.net>; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 05:55:09 +0000 Message-ID: <389A697F.88FC067B@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 21:54:07 -0800 From: Frank Janik Reply-To: f.s.janik@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rudolph wratten CC: elipse748@aol.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 730T, Operating systems References: <007101bf6e7b$eb194d80$f40c4a0c@701c> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: , Hello All Uncle Frank Here. on the Issue Of the 730T How Do We Install O/S's I Have a 730T, I Purchased A Docking Station for this, Which allows Me To Attach a Big Blue (IBM External 1.44 floppy). On The Docking Station you can Plug In a PS/2 Mouse, External Monitor , External Floppy Drive, also a Printer. I am not Writing This For Profit, Their Seems alot Of Difficulity In Getting The Beast Loaded With A O/S. I Bought My Docking Station From back East a Place Called Global Monitor. Real Nice Folks. I Think The Do Auctions On Ebay. Total Cost Of My Pre-Christmas Toy, Appx.$65.00 US. Funds I Have Loaded Win95 on IT using Floppys. Not Much Room Left, But It Works, Used The Early Win95 BootDisk To Get It Running, (partition & Format). The Above Figures Does Not Include the 730T, dealer prep or shipping. I Hope This Helps Someone With a 730T he who's dies with the most Thinkpads Wins. Pancho rudolph wratten wrote: > Hello. > > For anyone who cannot even make the 730T boot. > The 730T should boot on anything that you load to it, If you have laptop. > Make a recovery disk. format your PCMCIA drive from your 730T with the /s > command to put the system on that drive, then x-copy the recovery floppy to > the 730Ts drive. This will give you enough to boot from the 730T. If this > does not work, enter setup, this is done by touching the suspend button with > the stylus and at the same time holding the white power button down. This > should bring you to ez setup, nothing like ez serve. > You can test your hard drive from there. From cph Fri Feb 4 03:00:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA23101 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 03:00:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28496; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 02:58:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 02:56:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28315; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 02:56:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28302; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 02:56:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.az.com (216.145.8.233 -> ip-216.145.8.233.az.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 02:56:21 -0500 Received: from whistler.az.com (ip-216.145.8.254.az.com [216.145.8.254]) by www.az.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16106 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:56:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Received: from MYHOSTNAME ([10.66.8.123]) by whistler.az.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA39283 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 23:58:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertm@az.com) Message-Id: <200002040758.XAA39283@whistler.az.com> From: "LightSide" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Fri, 04 Feb 00 00:07:13 -0800 Reply-To: "LightSide" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Vote if you want a complaint/compliment page on thinkpads.com List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 02 Feb 2000 12:03:03 -0500, Brian Bender wrote: >As long as it doesn't cause you problems (at least any _more_ problems ) >with IBM, run with it, Bill! > I agree there. Don't cause yourself more problems than you already have/had. You're a good guy and murphys law is not something to mess with. > >> Tell IBM what they are doing RIGHT >> and >> Tell IBM what they are doing WRONG Hmmmm I'd be kinda careful on what I say is wrong. Generally I find it's my own darn fault. >> i DO know that "they" watch my site, because they would like me to stop Heh. Seeing those black suburbans driving around your neighbor hood? Seeing couples kissing in strange places like...against the light pole kitty corner to your home? ;) My $0.02 Robert Robert Mears Certified Key and Button Pusher robertm@az.com OS/2 Warp v4: Because you deserve more than an os designed for games From cph Fri Feb 4 10:00:36 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA24612 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 10:00:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00484; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:58:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:57:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00299; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pps-1.smartworld.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00283; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:57:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pps-1.smartworld.net (216.70.64.22 -> pps-1.smartworld.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:57:16 -0500 Received: from c454306b (cust229.tnt2.dial.van1.uunet.ca [209.167.212.229]) by pps-1.smartworld.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA25789; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:57:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002501bf6f1f$446fa520$e5d4a7d1@c454306b> Reply-To: "peter machule" From: "peter machule" To: Cc: "thinkpad" References: <200002040423.UAA22971@tdl.tdl.com> Subject: Re: Making a startup disk with CD Rom enabled Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 06:51:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Don't ;-} The easiest way by far, is to find anyone that has Win98 or 98Se installed . Have them make you a startup disk . It has everything set up for CDROM support , unlike the totally useless Win 95 startup disk. If you have enough room on your HD , copy all the cabs etc from the Win98 directory on the Cd to the same directory that you make on the HD . Install from the HD. you will never need the Win 98 Cd again. Anyone know if the TP 380 supports Fat 32 with Hibernation ?? ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Blaisdell To: Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 8:23 PM Subject: Making a startup disk with CD Rom enabled > Another question: > > I'm looking at upgrading to Win98SE, but want to do a clean install. To > do so I need access to the CD ROM. I've made a Win95 startup disk, > and looked at the dosstart.bat file. It says that to access the CD ROM > the parameter of my MSCDEX file must match that exactly of the one > referenced in my config.sys file. But there is no such reference in my > config.sys file! > > Any easy instructions on how to make a startup disk that will let me boot > and access the CD ROM? > > I have a 380ED > > Thanks. > From cph Fri Feb 4 11:59:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA25420 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:59:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12893; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:57:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12685; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:57:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhop1.nyroc.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12669; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:56:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhop1.nyroc.rr.com (24.92.226.166 -> mailhop1-1.nyroc.rr.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:56:59 -0500 Received: from mailout2.nyroc.rr.com ([24.92.226.121]) by mailhop1.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:54:23 -0500 Received: from dynamocomputers.com ([24.94.58.250]) by mailout2.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:47:18 -0500 Message-ID: <389B04E6.7E7A615D@dynamocomputers.com> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 11:57:11 -0500 From: Pete Hatton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: PCMCIA on 730T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone had any luck getting extra PCMCIA cards to work under Win95 on a 730T? This system is going to be used to collect data in an electric vehicle built by a local high school ( http://solartiger.dhs.org ). I would like to be able to add a Wireless LAN Entry card so we can get the data off of it without removing it from the car. The problem seems to be with the PCMCIA 32 bit support. It looses the hard drive when 32 bit PCMCIA is enabled, locking up on startup. --------------------------------------------- Pete Hatton http://www.dynamocomputers.com From cph Fri Feb 4 13:22:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA26062 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:22:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20568; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:20:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:19:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20393; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:19:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20378; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:19:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (24.2.9.68 -> ha1.rdc3.on.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:19:17 -0500 Received: from 452366-a ([24.114.126.73]) by mail.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with ESMTP id <20000204181658.MIRA10642.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 10:16:58 -0800 From: "Tom Trottier" To: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:19:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: 701 memory Reply-to: TomATrottier@home.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <000801bf6b9e$ad9dada0$bb1c4f0c@CIJECZCIGG0ZK6> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Message-Id: <20000204181658.MIRA10642.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone installed more than 40MB on a 701? Tom ------------------------- And a happy New Millenium to you and yours.PLEASE NOTE MY NEW eMAIL ADDRESS! From:Tom Trottier, 400 Slater St. Suite 415, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 __o ICQ:57647974 _ \< Voice: +1 613 291-1168 fax: 594-5412 No ads or spam, please (*)/'(*) Vote for your favourite Olympus camera at http://www.freevote.com/booth/fav_camera From cph Fri Feb 4 13:23:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA26072 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:23:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20858; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:21:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:20:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20754; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20740; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (24.2.9.68 -> ha1.rdc3.on.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:20:47 -0500 Received: from 452366-a ([24.114.126.73]) by mail.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with ESMTP id <20000204181828.MIYV10642.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a>; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 10:18:28 -0800 From: "Tom Trottier" To: "Chuck Blaisdell" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:20:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Making a startup disk with CD Rom enabled Reply-to: TomATrottier@home.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <200002040423.UAA22971@tdl.tdl.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Message-Id: <20000204181828.MIYV10642.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> List-Unsubscribe: Hi Chuck Why not copy the CD to a directory on your HD & install from there. Use "Add/Remove Programs" in the control panel to create your startup disk & boot to a command prompt by pressing F7 when the "Starting Windoze" line appears. This also simplifies later s/w installations since you won't need the CD-ROM. Tom On 3 Feb 00, at 20:23, Chuck Blaisdell spoke about *Making a startup disk with CD Rom e..* saying > Another question: > > I'm looking at upgrading to Win98SE, but want to do a clean install. > To do so I need access to the CD ROM. I've made a Win95 startup disk, > and looked at the dosstart.bat file. It says that to access the CD > ROM the parameter of my MSCDEX file must match that exactly of the one > referenced in my config.sys file. But there is no such reference in > my config.sys file! > > Any easy instructions on how to make a startup disk that will let me > boot and access the CD ROM? > > I have a 380ED > > Thanks. > ------------------------- And a happy New Millenium to you and yours.PLEASE NOTE MY NEW eMAIL ADDRESS! From:Tom Trottier, 400 Slater St. Suite 415, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 __o ICQ:57647974 _ \< Voice: +1 613 291-1168 fax: 594-5412 No ads or spam, please (*)/'(*) Vote for your favourite Olympus camera at http://www.freevote.com/booth/fav_camera From cph Fri Feb 4 14:02:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA26460 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:02:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25787; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:00:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25622; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:00:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25604; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:00:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.195.173 -> cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:00:02 -0500 Received: from modem-247.iron.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.25.247] helo=basterfield.com) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12GnxY-0002YI-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 19:00:00 +0000 Message-ID: <389B21C5.2C7F4C33@basterfield.com> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 19:00:21 +0000 From: Daniel Basterfield Organization: I've heard of that. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad mailing list Subject: Re: PCMCIA on 730T References: <389B04E6.7E7A615D@dynamocomputers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Pete Hatton wrote: > > Has anyone had any luck getting extra PCMCIA cards to work under > Win95 on a 730T? Pete, You need PCMCIA drivers which cope gracefully with the computer booting off a PCMCIA hard drive. I have some at my TP730 site - look under the Win95 installation instructions - http://www.basterfield.com/tp730. Not quite got it all sorted out. Win95 still insists that the hard drive is running in compatibility mode but at least it works. > This system is going to be used to collect data in an > electric vehicle built by a local high school ( > http://solartiger.dhs.org ). I would like to be able to add a Wireless > LAN Entry card so we can get the data off of it without removing it from > the car. The problem seems to be with the PCMCIA 32 bit support. It > looses the hard drive when 32 bit PCMCIA is enabled, locking up on > startup. I have a Wireless LAN Entry card in mine; works fine with these drivers. Cheers, Dan. -- Daniel Basterfield "He who dies with the most toys wins" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- OS/2 Certified Engineer, Microsoft Certified Professional IBM PC110 & ThinkPad 730 information: http://www.basterfield.com/ From cph Fri Feb 4 14:47:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA26853 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:47:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29976; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:43:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29844; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:43:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.dnai.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29830; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:43:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.dnai.com (207.181.194.97 -> oberon.dnai.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:43:21 -0500 Received: from THINK (dnai-216-15-88-178.cust.dnai.com [216.15.88.178]) by oberon.dnai.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA49155 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:43:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <004101bf6f48$7e98ba10$0311a8c0@THINK> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Windows 2000 TP Configuration: Onscreen Display source files??? Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:46:13 -0800 Organization: Detayls MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: I have recently installed the final version of Windows 2000 Professional on my ThinkPad 600 (PII/233). Everything is smooth, but I was forced to use the Beta version (1.12) of the ThinkPad Configuration Utilities with no apparent adverse consequences. The new version (1.13) of the ThinkPad Configuration Utilities has just appeared on the TP support site under Windows 2000 support (not Windows 2000 Beta). After removing the Beta (1.12) version, I have tried to install final (1.13) version but I get a prompt to specify the path to the "Onscreen Display Source files." What does this mean and where are these files? I tried groping around in the directory that the Installer runs from and all over the TP Support Web Site with no luck. I *think* that this has something to do with the new BIOS facility to show the volume level (and possibly other stuff) but it is not documented anywhere that I have seen. David -- David W. Taylor From cph Fri Feb 4 14:52:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA26903 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:52:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00901; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:49:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:49:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00819; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:49:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.dnai.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00794; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:49:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.dnai.com (207.181.194.97 -> oberon.dnai.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:49:06 -0500 Received: from THINK (dnai-216-15-88-178.cust.dnai.com [216.15.88.178]) by oberon.dnai.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA53434 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:49:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <004901bf6f49$4eb69eb0$0311a8c0@THINK> From: "David W. Taylor" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: CD/DVD-ROM Firmware Update??? Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:52:02 -0800 Organization: Detayls MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: A new file called "TP 600 - CD/DVD-ROM Firmware Update Utility Diskette" has appeared on the TP Support web site. It says: "This Firmware Update Utility Diskette updates the CD/DVD-ROM firmware stored in the CD/DVD-ROM drive to fix problems, add new functions, or expand functions as noted below. The supported models are as follows. - ThinkPad 600, 600E" and "1.00 - (New) Initial Release to support Windows2000(*)" I have a TP 600 (2645-41U) PII/233 model with a stock CD-ROM Drive. Do I gain anything by applying this update? -- David W. Taylor From cph Fri Feb 4 15:10:10 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA27075 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:10:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03918; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:06:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:05:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03828; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from asimov.dns-host.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03815; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:05:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from asimov.dns-host.com (209.235.102.23 -> asimov.dns-host.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:05:40 -0500 Received: from sod2038 ([137.53.68.115]) by asimov.dns-host.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA06057 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:05:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001201bf6f4b$27f8a460$73443589@ohsu.edu> From: "AC Brown" To: Subject: Using the external microphone input on the TP 600 Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:05:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF6F08.18873980" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF6F08.18873980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Tom Franklin I suspect the TP 600 is similar to the TP 570 with respect to audio jacks. However I'm not familiar with the Labtec LVA-8450 headset. The instructions that came with my Andrea headset state "SoundBlaster sound cards use the converter plug. Other sound cards remove the converter plug. Some sound cards and laptops without sufficient power (2.2 volts) in the microphone port will require a APS-100." The APS-100 is an external battery box that takes two AAA cells. In other words, if the TP 600 microphone input is like that of the TP 570, then (1) you do not need an external battery box, and (2) if the Labtec is not SoundBlaster compatible, you probably need the SoundBlaster converter plug (not the Thinkpad adapter). I suppose the best advice is to check with Labtec re Soundblaster compatibility. Good luck. AC Brown ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF6F08.18873980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To:    Tom = Franklin

I suspect the TP=20 600 is similar to the TP 570 with respect to
audio jacks.  = However I'm=20 not familiar with the Labtec LVA-8450
headset.  The instructions = that=20 came with my Andrea headset state
 
"SoundBlaster sound cards use the = converter plug.=20 Other sound cards
remove the converter plug. Some sound cards and = laptops=20 without
sufficient power (2.2 volts) in the microphone port will = require
a=20 APS-100."
 
The APS-100 is an external battery box = that takes=20 two AAA cells.
 
In other words, if the TP 600 = microphone input is=20 like that of
the TP 570, then (1) you do not need an external battery = box,
and (2) if the Labtec is not SoundBlaster compatible, you=20 probably
need the SoundBlaster converter plug (not the Thinkpad=20 adapter).
 
I suppose the best advice is to check = with Labtec=20 re Soundblaster
compatibility.  Good luck.
 
AC Brown
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF6F08.18873980-- From cph Fri Feb 4 15:10:11 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA27079 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:10:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04344; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:07:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:07:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04235; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:07:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04222; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:07:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (206.180.224.3 -> tdl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:07:41 -0500 Received: from chuck (pm1i-207.tdl.com [206.180.234.207]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA21828; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:07:28 -0800 Message-Id: <200002042007.MAA21828@tdl.tdl.com> From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: "peter machule" Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:07:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Making a startup disk with CD Rom enabled Reply-to: cblaisd@tdl.com CC: Priority: normal In-reply-to: <002501bf6f1f$446fa520$e5d4a7d1@c454306b> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) List-Unsubscribe: On 4 Feb 00, at 6:51, peter machule wrote: > Don't ;-} > > The easiest way by far, is to find anyone that has Win98 or 98Se installed . > Have them make you a startup disk . > It has everything set up for CDROM support , unlike the totally useless Win 95 startup disk. > > If you have enough room on your HD , > copy all the cabs etc from the Win98 directory on the Cd to > the same directory that you make on the HD . > Install from the HD. > you will never need the Win 98 Cd again. Helpful stuff. Thank you. While we're on a roll , how about these questions. 1) Out of impatience (and in order to make the Win98 startup disk) I went ahead and installed Win98SE over my Win95 setup. In Add/Remove Programs, there is now an item for "Delete Win95 Uninstall Files." I'm happy with Win98 so I assume I want to do that. But it also seems to me that I could gain lots of disk space by deleting the Win95 directory c:\windows\options which is where all the Win95 cabs are on my system. Do I need them anymore? (I have copied, per your suggestion, the Win98 cabs to my hard drive and changed the Registry to point to the hard drive as the source path; have tested and is working ok). But I'm now close to the edge on disk space, so need to free up some space! There are a little over 500mb in my c:\windows directory. Comments? Suggestions? 2) If I wanted to do a clean install, yet preserve registry settings (so as to not have to re-install all my apps and restore my data) could I use the Win98 boot disk to start the system, then delete the c:\windows directory (except for system.dat and user.dat) and then re-install from the command line? Or am I totally mucking things up this way! 3) If #2 isn't possible (re saving registry settings), what would you suggest for a fresh/clean install. Starting with the win98 boot disk, then what?? Thanks to both Tom and Peter for their quick replies. I'm folks will be able to weigh in on these questions too. (I'll look forward to giving back some answers someday :-> ) > > Anyone know if the TP 380 supports Fat 32 with Hibernation ?? Don't know. Sorry. Chuck Blaisdell From cph Fri Feb 4 16:01:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA27434 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:01:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09462; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:58:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:57:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09276; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:57:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09259; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:57:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (142.90.100.150 -> trmail.Triumf.CA) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:57:55 -0500 Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA [142.90.120.3]) by trmail.triumf.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA27848; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:57:52 -0800 Message-ID: <02f701bf6f54$4f3d0bc0$03785a8e@pmachule> From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: Cc: References: <200002042007.MAA21828@tdl.tdl.com> Subject: Re: Making a startup disk with CD Rom enabled Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:10:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: LOL only a few questions huh ? (grin) YES remove all and any Win95 stuff as suggested . You do not need any of it . If you run the setup from the \cabs dir on the HD you do not need to edit the registery . On the other hand, if you know all about that ...why am I helping you ? (grin) the second one is tough Clean install and keep registery settings . Hmmm Pick one . The registery is part of the problem , you can kill most /all of the \windows dir . do an new win 98 install and bring back the registry . BUT you have also brought back your problems ......maybe . Last week there was some discussion about cleaning the registery . UGH ... Do you really need a fresh install ??? Try the sytem as is . Then remove files in the \windows dir that are older . These are a leftover from the win95 days . BTW what does IBM say about Win98 and the TP 380 ? They have a FAQ on the subject buried somewhere in IBM's Web. Also look into Hibernate and Fat32 . If hibernation is not important just convert to Fat32 and gain a lot of space . If hibernation is important ....find out . Re starting fresh : Find out if you actually need to . If you do See what IBM says ..re Win98 The Win98 boot disk is all you need to get started . Fdisk / format / copy Cabs etc....... PS look into win98lite !!! http://www.98lite.net/98lite.html ..peter > Helpful stuff. Thank you. While we're on a roll , how about these > questions. > > 1) Out of impatience (and in order to make the Win98 startup disk) I > went ahead and installed Win98SE over my Win95 setup. In > Add/Remove Programs, there is now an item for "Delete Win95 Uninstall > Files." I'm happy with Win98 so I assume I want to do that. But it also > seems to me that I could gain lots of disk space by deleting the Win95 > directory c:\windows\options which is where all the Win95 cabs are on > my system. Do I need them anymore? (I have copied, per your > suggestion, the Win98 cabs to my hard drive and changed the Registry > to point to the hard drive as the source path; have tested and is working > ok). But I'm now close to the edge on disk space, so need to free up > some space! There are a little over 500mb in my c:\windows directory. > Comments? Suggestions? > > 2) If I wanted to do a clean install, yet preserve registry settings (so as > to not have to re-install all my apps and restore my data) could I use the > Win98 boot disk to start the system, then delete the c:\windows > directory (except for system.dat and user.dat) and then re-install from the > command line? Or am I totally mucking things up this way! You can do this and it has been done . And people have totally mucked things up ;-} > > 3) If #2 isn't possible (re saving registry settings), what would you > suggest for a fresh/clean install. Starting with the win98 boot disk, then > what?? > > Thanks to both Tom and Peter for their quick replies. I'm folks will be > able to weigh in on these questions too. (I'll look forward to giving back > some answers someday :-> ) > > > > Anyone know if the TP 380 supports Fat 32 with Hibernation ?? > > Don't know. Sorry. > > Chuck Blaisdell > From cph Fri Feb 4 16:16:34 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA27554 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:16:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11086; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:13:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:13:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10981; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:13:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0i.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10967; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:13:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0i.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.38 -> www0i.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:13:38 -0500 Received: (qmail 14670 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Feb 2000 21:13:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20000204211324.14669.qmail@www0i.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.38 by www0i for [205.144.113.2] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Fri Feb 4 21:13:24 GMT 2000 Date: 4 Feb 00 15:13:24 CST From: Rob Bell To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Making a startup disk with CD Rom enabled X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id QAA27555 You can certainly remove any Win95 cabs that are on your C: drive. They are of no value now that you have Win98SE. You can also do the "Delete Win95 Uninstall Files." thing to free up more space, if you don't want to revert back to Win95. Your #2 doesn't sound like a good idea. To do an upgrade of Win98 while preserving prior settings and application info, follow the Win98 directions for the upgrade. If you really want a clean install, bite the bullet and start from scratch. Move all program and personal data (documents, spreadsheets, e-mail databases, etc.) to another partition (or a separate directory on your main drive), then remove everything else and do the Win98 install. I give you 95% probability of making your environment completely unstable by attempting to do your #2 or anything similar. I've found that Win98 upgrades over stable Win95 systems generally turn out pretty good. If you've already got an unstable environment, then start from scratch. Sure, you'll have to re-install your apps, but that often helps stability a lot. The time you spend setting everything back up pales in comparison to troubleshooting instability. HTH, Rob ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Fri Feb 4 16:31:39 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA27680 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:31:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13108; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:29:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:29:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13006; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12993; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:29:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (142.90.100.150 -> trmail.Triumf.CA) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:29:23 -0500 Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA [142.90.120.3]) by trmail.triumf.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA28388 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:29:21 -0800 Message-ID: <030b01bf6f58$b50a0080$03785a8e@pmachule> From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" References: <20000204211324.14669.qmail@www0i.netaddress.usa.net> Subject: Re: Making a startup disk with CD Rom enabled Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:41:07 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: > The time you spend setting everything back up pales in comparison to > troubleshooting instability. AMEN !!! ..peter.. From cph Fri Feb 4 16:33:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA27710 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:33:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13428; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:31:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13326; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:31:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from calliope.webcombo.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13293; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from calliope.webcombo.net (207.250.9.19 -> mail.webcombo.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:31:02 -0500 Received: from 770z (1Cust50.tnt26.atl2.da.uu.net [63.28.221.50]) by calliope.webcombo.net (8.9.3/[.92 webCOMBO - ALL UCE PROHIBITED]) with SMTP id PAA16720; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:29:28 -0600 From: "Richard Chalk" To: "Rob Bell" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: RE: Making a startup disk with CD Rom enabled Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:30:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-reply-to: <20000204211324.14669.qmail@www0i.netaddress.usa.net> List-Unsubscribe: my suggestion would be to do a full restore from the factory disk first, which will get you back any help files, and any preinstalled utilities, or programs you might want to have. Then delete the .CAB files for Windows 95, copy the Win98 directory complete from the CD to the HD, and then run setup >from the win98 directory, following instructions for an upgrade. This should result in a pretty clean installation, while keeping anything useful >from the original configuration. Richard -----Original Message----- From: Rob Bell [mailto:rbell1@netscape.net] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 4:13 PM To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Making a startup disk with CD Rom enabled You can certainly remove any Win95 cabs that are on your C: drive. They are of no value now that you have Win98SE. You can also do the "Delete Win95 Uninstall Files." thing to free up more space, if you don't want to revert back to Win95. Your #2 doesn't sound like a good idea. To do an upgrade of Win98 while preserving prior settings and application info, follow the Win98 directions for the upgrade. If you really want a clean install, bite the bullet and start from scratch. Move all program and personal data (documents, spreadsheets, e-mail databases, etc.) to another partition (or a separate directory on your main drive), then remove everything else and do the Win98 install. I give you 95% probability of making your environment completely unstable by attempting to do your #2 or anything similar. I've found that Win98 upgrades over stable Win95 systems generally turn out pretty good. If you've already got an unstable environment, then start from scratch. Sure, you'll have to re-install your apps, but that often helps stability a lot. The time you spend setting everything back up pales in comparison to troubleshooting instability. HTH, Rob ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Fri Feb 4 17:34:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA28335 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:34:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17782; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:33:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17650; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:33:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17637; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:33:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.20 -> fb02.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:33:08 -0500 Received: from user-38lcdum.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lcdum.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.55.214]) by fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA04972 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:33:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002042233.RAA04972@fb02.eng00.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 17:31:43 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <19990929164243.19529.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP760XL shutdown freeze at blue clouds scene List-Unsubscribe: Hello, My TP760CD running 'dose95 OSR2 suddenly stopped shutting down properly. It hangs at the last scene. So, I just turn it off. Is there some corrupted file that is no longer switching the machine off? Or what? A cntrl/alt/del pick Shutdown will shut 'er down. But not the normal Shutdown method. Any advice on how to fix this annoyance would be appreciated. Allan Ballard TP760XL p166 104MB TP760CD p120 64MB (and still my favorite for its ports) From cph Fri Feb 4 17:55:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA28558 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:55:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19411; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:53:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:53:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19315; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:53:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19299; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:53:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:53:47 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA21462 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:53:44 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <005f01bf6f62$b3377ee0$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" References: <20000204211324.14669.qmail@www0i.netaddress.usa.net> <030b01bf6f58$b50a0080$03785a8e@pmachule> Subject: Re: Making a startup disk with CD Rom enabled Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:53:48 -1000 Organization: Not to a very advanced degree MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: > The time you spend setting everything back up pales in comparison to > troubleshooting instability. This depends a bit on how old one's software is, and how well one made notes w/every upgrade/service pack. I have avoided a fresh reinstalling W95 on one of my machines because it would involve 10-15 service patches/upgrades even *after* reinstalling all the software, and I'm not sure I have all these patches in storage. - David R. 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Thanks! andrew ------ current local weather: http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/OttawaOntario.html From cph Fri Feb 4 19:36:17 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA29288 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:36:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26226; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:34:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:34:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26136; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:34:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26122; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:34:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.17 -> mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:34:33 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.15.224]) by mtiwmhc10.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000205003431.RTBA12791@compaq>; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:34:31 +0000 Message-ID: <389B7001.6F49@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 19:34:10 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan Ballard CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP760XL shutdown freeze at blue clouds scene References: <200002042233.RAA04972@fb02.eng00.mindspring.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: If you have any network cards installed, make sure you turn off "browsemaster". Allan Ballard wrote: > > Hello, > > My TP760CD running 'dose95 OSR2 suddenly stopped > shutting down properly. It hangs at the last scene. > > So, I just turn it off. > > Is there some corrupted file that is no longer switching the > machine off? Or what? > > A cntrl/alt/del pick Shutdown will shut 'er down. > > But not the normal Shutdown method. > > Any advice on how to fix this annoyance would > be appreciated. > Allan Ballard > TP760XL p166 104MB > TP760CD p120 64MB (and still my favorite for its ports) From cph Fri Feb 4 19:41:26 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA29322 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:41:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26747; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:40:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:39:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26660; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:39:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26469; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (198.36.160.1 -> ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:37:00 -0500 Received: (qmail 7223 invoked by alias); 5 Feb 2000 00:36:51 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 7136 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2000 00:36:48 -0000 Received: from dialupg179.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (207.225.87.179) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2000 00:36:48 -0000 Message-ID: <389B70E5.AE5E8F98@uswest.net> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 16:37:57 -0800 From: Patrick West Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Mailing list Subject: 560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Folks, I have been using a 360cse. My daughter just purchased a used 560. It has no software. I need to install Windows, etc, for her. Any known gotyas for the 560? From cph Fri Feb 4 19:59:17 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA29411 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:59:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27717; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:53:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:53:41 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27614; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:53:40 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id TAA19236 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:53:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29619; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:41:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:41:31 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-33.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.33]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA05728 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:41:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000204144459.01346710@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 14:44:59 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Making a startup disk with CD Rom enabled In-Reply-To: <002501bf6f1f$446fa520$e5d4a7d1@c454306b> References: <200002040423.UAA22971@tdl.tdl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: >> Another question: >> >> I'm looking at upgrading to Win98SE, but want to do a clean install. To >> do so I need access to the CD ROM. I've made a Win95 startup disk, >> and looked at the dosstart.bat file. It says that to access the CD ROM >> the parameter of my MSCDEX file must match that exactly of the one >> referenced in my config.sys file. But there is no such reference in my >> config.sys file! >> >> Any easy instructions on how to make a startup disk that will let me boot >> and access the CD ROM? >> >> I have a 380ED >> >> Thanks. Make sure you have the newest BIOS: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/EMON-3MGGW8.html Goto IBM's device driver matrix page for the 380ED and download the newest CD-ROM drivers (Fat32 support). http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/RMIE-38CEKN.html Go into windows and format a fresh floppy with the system command files on it. ("format a: /s") Copy fdisk, format, sys and mscdex to the floppy from the windows\command directory (mscdex just in case the 380ED CD driver disk doesn't include a version). Back up all crucial files Boot from floppy If you wish to repartition, run fdisk and reboot >From the floppy boot (A:), type "format c: /s" Install the CD-ROM drivers from the driver disk (NOTE, depending on Fat32, drivers may have problems installing. If so, install manually) Reboot Copy the entire Win98 or Win98SE directory to the c: drive in a directory Remove CD and install from c: drive Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Fri Feb 4 20:13:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA29465 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:13:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29084; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:06:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:05:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28967; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28944; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:05:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (12.79.29.60 -> 60.morristown-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:05:37 -0500 Message-ID: <005001bf6f74$cf472920$3c1d4f0c@cijeczcig1x68u> From: "Donald Mak" To: "David W. Taylor" , "ThinkPad List" References: <004901bf6f49$4eb69eb0$0311a8c0@THINK> Subject: Re: CD/DVD-ROM Firmware Update??? Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:03:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: What exactly does this firmware update? I wonder if this update will set the region code limitation? Donald Mak ----- Original Message ----- From: David W. Taylor To: ThinkPad List Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 2:52 PM Subject: CD/DVD-ROM Firmware Update??? > A new file called "TP 600 - CD/DVD-ROM Firmware Update Utility Diskette" has > appeared on the TP Support web site. > > It says: > > "This Firmware Update Utility Diskette updates the CD/DVD-ROM firmware > stored in the CD/DVD-ROM drive to fix problems, add new functions, or expand > functions as noted below. The supported models are as follows. > > - ThinkPad 600, 600E" > > and > > "1.00 - (New) Initial Release to support Windows2000(*)" > > I have a TP 600 (2645-41U) PII/233 model with a stock CD-ROM Drive. > > Do I gain anything by applying this update? > > -- > David W. Taylor > > From cph Fri Feb 4 22:01:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA29893 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:01:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04844; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:58:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:57:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04604; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from spamraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04589; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:57:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from spamraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.217.142 -> as-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:57:15 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spamraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.2) id VAA10287 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:57:13 -0500 (EST) Sender: bbender@compuserve.com Received: from brianbnt5 (hil-qbu-ppr-vty4.as.wcom.net [206.175.97.131]) by spamraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.2) with SMTP id VAA10270 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:57:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian Bender" To: "'Thinkpad List'" Subject: RE: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:49:30 -0500 Message-ID: <000101bf6f84$638833e0$140aa8c0@brianbnt5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <389717B7.8309DC23@vocollect.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: Just to follow up, I finally got my home^H^H^H^HThinkpad (is that sad, or what? ) back this morning, one week after sending it away. All was well as soon as I talked to someone back at IBM support (as opposed to the EasyServ folks where they're running this "Hazzard county" scam). Now all that remains to be seen is whether a charge still shows up on my CC. I've got a separate case # from the (very nice) woman at IBM I talked to who straightened the mess out, so even if they try to bill me, it won't stick. :-P The PC itself seems fixed up just fine. But has anyone noticed how cheesy the EasyServ shipping boxes are now? Just a 5 or 6 inch thick box with some foam in it. Remember how they used to do it, big 'ol box with the "air ride" suspension in them? Ah, the good old days...... Later folks, (I've got a _lot_ of work to catch up on ) - Brian Count Thinkpad -- an "undead" TP600, back from the EasyCemetery > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Bender [mailto:bbender@vocollect.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 12:28 PM > To: Randal Whittle; Thinkpad List > Subject: Re: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! > > > Yeah, of course you guys are right. I took it up one level, > and they're > repairing it free of charge. > This is a helluva racket EasyServ is running -- they jump you > while they've got > your (in some cases anyway) primary means of making a living > and act like a > bunch of no-good used car salesmen (no offense to any > *honest* car salesmen out > there ). > > Despite the quick and resonable resolution once I got back > inside IBM, I'm > still going to follow this up with a chain of bitch letters. > The "new" > EasyServ definitely does not reflect well on IBM's PC group... > > Thanks for helping me get my head on straight, guys, > > - Brian > > Randal Whittle wrote: > > > At 12:12 PM 02/01/2000 -0500, you wrote: > > >With the system board replaced, of course... ;-) > > >We're going to fight about the $700. > > > > Escalate--NOW. If you wait until later you'll be > eating that $700. > > > > - Randy > > > > > - Brian > > > > > >"Cottrell, Eric" wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Well if it smoked I doubt it would be useful if you got it back. > > > > > > > > 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com WB1HBU > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Brian Bender [mailto:bbender@vocollect.com] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 11:57 AM > > > > To: Thinkpad List > > > > Subject: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! > > > > > > > > Called today (2/1) to check up on it and was told it > was on "billable > > > > hold". Talked to a Chris Johnson in the billing dept., > who proceeded to > > > > tell me that "it smoked" when the techs put it on the > bench, and that > > > > they are billing *me* $700+ for the system board replacement!!! > > > > > > > > In your opinion, folks, am I right in waiting until I > get the machine > > > > back before I start fighting them? If I start a battle > now, they're > > > > just going to hold the thing until it's resolved, > right? I'm losing > > > > work by the day limping along on a machine that doesn't > have all my > > > > development tools, etc., on it. My plan is to raise > holy @#$&* once > > > > I get it back, but don't I risk being without machine > indefinitely if > > > > I escalate it now? > > > > > From cph Fri Feb 4 22:37:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA30020 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:37:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06280; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:35:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:34:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06194; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:34:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06181; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:34:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.20 -> fb02.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:34:53 -0500 Received: from user-38lcdum.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lcdum.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.55.214]) by fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA31764; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:34:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002050334.WAA31764@fb02.eng00.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "scosgt@worldnet.att.net" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 22:33:21 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <389B7001.6F49@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP760XL shutdown freeze at blue clouds scene List-Unsubscribe: Thanks, but no network cards... Fri, 04 Feb 2000 19:34:10 -0500, Bruce Markowitz wrote: >If you have any network cards installed, make sure you turn off >"browsemaster". > >Allan Ballard wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> My TP760CD running 'dose95 OSR2 suddenly stopped >> shutting down properly. It hangs at the last scene. >> >> So, I just turn it off. >> >> Is there some corrupted file that is no longer switching the >> machine off? Or what? >> >> A cntrl/alt/del pick Shutdown will shut 'er down. >> >> But not the normal Shutdown method. >> >> Any advice on how to fix this annoyance would >> be appreciated. >> Allan Ballard >> TP760XL p166 104MB >> TP760CD p120 64MB (and still my favorite for its ports) From cph Sat Feb 5 00:12:55 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA30431 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:12:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10900; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:10:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:09:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10743; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:09:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10645; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:06:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:06:13 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-27.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.27]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA26328; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:06:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000205001005.00812cd0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 00:10:05 -0800 To: "Allan Ballard" , "scosgt@worldnet.att.net" From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: TP760XL shutdown freeze at blue clouds scene Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" In-Reply-To: <200002050334.WAA31764@fb02.eng00.mindspring.net> References: <389B7001.6F49@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: One of many reasons windows freezes at this point (besides network disconnect issues): Try going into ControlPanel->System->FileSystem->CDROM and setting the supplimental cache to small/0. You may find the problem disappears. Mark At 10:33 PM 02/04/2000 -0500, Allan Ballard wrote: >Thanks, but no network cards... > > Fri, 04 Feb 2000 19:34:10 -0500, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > >>If you have any network cards installed, make sure you turn off >>"browsemaster". >> >>Allan Ballard wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> My TP760CD running 'dose95 OSR2 suddenly stopped >>> shutting down properly. It hangs at the last scene. >>> >>> So, I just turn it off. >>> >>> Is there some corrupted file that is no longer switching the >>> machine off? Or what? >>> >>> A cntrl/alt/del pick Shutdown will shut 'er down. >>> >>> But not the normal Shutdown method. >>> >>> Any advice on how to fix this annoyance would >>> be appreciated. >>> Allan Ballard >>> TP760XL p166 104MB >>> TP760CD p120 64MB (and still my favorite for its ports) > > > ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Sat Feb 5 08:07:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA31777 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 08:07:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05253; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 08:05:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 08:04:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05118; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 08:04:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05105; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 08:04:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (216.32.181.135 -> law2-f135.hotmail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 08:04:33 -0500 Received: (qmail 98003 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2000 13:04:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20000205130432.98002.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.15.93.46 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 05:04:32 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.15.93.46] From: "Rat Boy" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 05:04:32 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph Sat Feb 5 09:21:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA31933 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:21:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08619; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:20:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:19:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08510; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08500; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:19:23 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.3 -> imo13.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:19:23 -0500 Received: from Wmludlow99@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id o.b4.124cd54 (7066) for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:19:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:19:18 EST Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: Please, unsubscribe me from this address. 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From cph Sat Feb 5 14:49:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA00313 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 14:49:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26760; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 14:47:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 14:47:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26581; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 14:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26558; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 14:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (24.2.9.68 -> ha1.rdc3.on.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 14:46:56 -0500 Received: from 452366-a ([24.114.126.73]) by mail.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with ESMTP id <20000205194436.VQUH10642.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a>; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:44:36 -0800 From: "Tom Trottier" To: Dominique Pivard Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 14:46:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: 701 memory Reply-to: TomATrottier@home.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal In-reply-to: <200002042230.AAA29485@mail.clinet.fi> References: <20000204181658.MIRA10642.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Message-Id: <20000205194436.VQUH10642.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> List-Unsubscribe: Hi Dominique That's what I mean - has anyone installed a 64MB or more RAM module? Tom On 5 Feb 00, at 0:29, Dominique Pivard spoke about *Re: 701 memory..* saying > On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 at 01:19 PM you, "Tom Trottier" > , said: > > >Has anyone installed more than 40MB on a 701? > > How would that be possible? The 701 had either 4 MB or 8 MB soldered > on the motherboard and (AFAIK) the largest optional RAM module for it > is 32 MB. ------------------------- And a happy New Millenium to you and yours.PLEASE NOTE MY NEW eMAIL ADDRESS! From:Tom Trottier, 400 Slater St. Suite 415, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 __o ICQ:57647974 _ \< Voice: +1 613 291-1168 fax: 594-5412 No ads or spam, please (*)/'(*) Vote for your favourite Olympus camera at http://www.freevote.com/booth/fav_camera From cph Sat Feb 5 15:52:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA00505 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:52:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00863; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:50:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:49:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00740; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:49:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.dnai.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00727; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.dnai.com (207.181.194.97 -> oberon.dnai.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:49:39 -0500 Received: from THINK (dnai-216-15-88-178.cust.dnai.com [216.15.88.178]) by oberon.dnai.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA31674 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:48:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001401bf701a$cc4c3430$0311a8c0@THINK> Reply-To: "David W. Taylor" From: "David W. Taylor" To: "ThinkPad List" References: <004101bf6f48$7e98ba10$0311a8c0@THINK> Subject: Re: Windows 2000 TP Configuration: Onscreen Display source files??? Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:51:33 -0800 Organization: Detayls MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: I have found a workaround to my own issue. When looking on the ThinkPad Discussion Forums, I found a message from someone else with the same question. He tried using the NT version of the Onscreen Display files, which can be used instead. I tried it and it all appears to work. Just download the latest NT ThinkPad Configuration Utilities and point to the directory ...\WNT\UTILITY directory when the Windows 2000 ThinkPad Configuration Utilities installer asks for the "Onscreen Display Source files." Since Windows 2000 is really just a major upgrade to NT, the files will most likely be compatible. As far as I can see the Onscreen Display stuff all works fine in this configuration. Enjoy! David ----- Original Message ----- From: "David W. Taylor" To: "ThinkPad List" Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 11:46 AM Subject: Windows 2000 TP Configuration: Onscreen Display source files??? > I have recently installed the final version of Windows 2000 Professional on > my ThinkPad 600 (PII/233). Everything is smooth, but I was forced to use > the Beta version (1.12) of the ThinkPad Configuration Utilities with no > apparent adverse consequences. > > The new version (1.13) of the ThinkPad Configuration Utilities has just > appeared on the TP support site under Windows 2000 support (not Windows 2000 > Beta). > > After removing the Beta (1.12) version, I have tried to install final (1.13) > version but I get a prompt to specify the path to the "Onscreen Display > Source files." > > What does this mean and where are these files? > > I tried groping around in the directory that the Installer runs from and all > over the TP Support Web Site with no luck. I *think* that this has something > to do with the new BIOS facility to show the volume level (and possibly > other stuff) but it is not documented anywhere that I have seen. > > David > -- > David W. Taylor > > > From cph Sat Feb 5 15:52:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA00511 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:52:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01004; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:50:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:50:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00926; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:50:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.dnai.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00913; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:50:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.dnai.com (207.181.194.97 -> oberon.dnai.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:50:41 -0500 Received: from THINK (dnai-216-15-88-178.cust.dnai.com [216.15.88.178]) by oberon.dnai.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA32282; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:50:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002001bf701b$0d1aa0a0$0311a8c0@THINK> Reply-To: "David W. Taylor" From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Donald Mak" , "ThinkPad List" References: <004901bf6f49$4eb69eb0$0311a8c0@THINK> <005001bf6f74$cf472920$3c1d4f0c@cijeczcig1x68u> Subject: Re: CD/DVD-ROM Firmware Update??? Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:53:27 -0800 Organization: Detayls MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: I don't know, Donald. That is why I asked the original question. It could do as you say but it is more likely to be an update to fix hot-swapping or some such. Anyone else out there know anything? David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Mak" To: "David W. Taylor" ; "ThinkPad List" Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 5:03 PM Subject: Re: CD/DVD-ROM Firmware Update??? > What exactly does this firmware update? > I wonder if this update will set the region code > limitation? > > Donald Mak > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David W. Taylor > To: ThinkPad List > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 2:52 PM > Subject: CD/DVD-ROM Firmware Update??? > > > > A new file called "TP 600 - CD/DVD-ROM Firmware Update Utility Diskette" > has > > appeared on the TP Support web site. > > > > It says: > > > > "This Firmware Update Utility Diskette updates the CD/DVD-ROM firmware > > stored in the CD/DVD-ROM drive to fix problems, add new functions, or > expand > > functions as noted below. The supported models are as follows. > > > > - ThinkPad 600, 600E" > > > > and > > > > "1.00 - (New) Initial Release to support Windows2000(*)" > > > > I have a TP 600 (2645-41U) PII/233 model with a stock CD-ROM Drive. > > > > Do I gain anything by applying this update? > > > > -- > > David W. Taylor > > > > > > From cph Sat Feb 5 16:18:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA00609 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 16:18:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02660; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 16:16:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 16:16:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02579; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 16:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02566; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 16:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (147.225.51.39 -> mosquito.ny.ans.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 16:16:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (bkomar@localhost) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA02160; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 16:16:21 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mosquito.ny.ans.net: bkomar owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 16:16:21 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: Wmludlow99@aol.com cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 Wmludlow99@aol.com wrote: > Please, uxnsubscribe me from this address. Start again, but in the digest > version only, at [ billludlow@juno.com ] . A great deal of sadness makes me > leave AOL in the near future.Yeah, sure. > In order to List-Unsubscribe: mailto:thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Subject=unsubscribe Have a nice day, Bruce Komar From cph Sat Feb 5 17:07:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA00784 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:07:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04875; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:04:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:03:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04763; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:03:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad1 (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04749; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:03:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad1 (12.79.31.12 -> 12.morristown-23-24rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:03:30 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01bf7024$8a687ba0$0c1f4f0c@thinkpad1> From: "Donald Mak" To: "David W. Taylor" , "ThinkPad List" References: <004901bf6f49$4eb69eb0$0311a8c0@THINK> <005001bf6f74$cf472920$3c1d4f0c@cijeczcig1x68u> <002001bf701b$0d1aa0a0$0311a8c0@THINK> Subject: Re: CD/DVD-ROM Firmware Update??? Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:01:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: I didn't completely read your original post. From reading your post again :) and checking the IBM site it appears that the firmware upgrade is for Win2K support. If your not running Win2K and your drive is functioning properly, I would suggest not upgrading. Maybe someone else with Win2K will use it first and then we could get some feedback if it affects the regions code. Donald Mak ----- Original Message ----- From: "David W. Taylor" To: "Donald Mak" ; "ThinkPad List" Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 3:53 PM Subject: Re: CD/DVD-ROM Firmware Update??? > I don't know, Donald. That is why I asked the original question. It could > do as you say but it is more likely to be an update to fix hot-swapping or > some such. > > Anyone else out there know anything? > > David From cph Sat Feb 5 17:30:17 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA00837 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:30:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06527; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:29:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:29:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06452; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:29:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06432; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (203.96.92.1 -> mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:29:10 -0500 Received: from 202-27-178-45.dialup.xtra.co.nz ([202.27.178.45]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <20000205223724.IPYH6460852.mta1-rme@202-27-178-45.dialup.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 11:37:24 +1300 From: Tom Cole To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Making a startup disk with CD Rom enabled Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 11:29:35 +1300 Message-ID: References: <002501bf6f1f$446fa520$e5d4a7d1@c454306b> <200002042007.MAA21828@tdl.tdl.com> In-Reply-To: <200002042007.MAA21828@tdl.tdl.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id RAA00838 On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:07:29 -0800, you wrote: >1) Out of impatience (and in order to make the Win98 startup disk) I >went ahead and installed Win98SE over my Win95 setup. If you are having stability problems with your existing applications, check VCM (Version Conflict Manager). Find VCM in the Tools menu of MS System Information (msinfo32.exe). In general you should replace any earlier versions of files with their backed up version so that the latest version is in use. Win98 setup always loads its own version of files, even if the version on the machine is later than the win98 version. When this happens, details are recorded so that VCM can reinstate the latest version if instructed. HTH -- Tom Cole Lower Hutt New Zealand tcole@xtra.co.nz From cph Sat Feb 5 18:48:55 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA01164 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:48:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09558; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:47:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:46:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09396; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:46:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09383; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:46:29 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (208.147.154.56 -> fly.HiWAAY.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:46:29 -0500 Received: from socrates (tnt6-216-180-5-39.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.5.39]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA26893 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:46:27 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200002052346.RAA26893@mail.HiWAAY.net> Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:45:42 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Video out operation X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.77 b77 List-Unsubscribe: I'm trying to make the video out port on my ThinkPad 765D work, but I don't know how. I have gotten video in to work, but I have no clue about video out. I'm running OS/2 Warp v4 with at least fixpack 5 (I forgot for sure -- its been 2 years since I installed it). Thanks for the help! -------------------------------------------------- Windows95 -- An entomologist's dream Jeff Jackowski http://ro.com/~jeffj/ OS/2 WPS (Desktop) Tips, remote i-net dialup "Luncheon meats make the sawdust in your stomach explode." -- Crow T. Robot From cph Sat Feb 5 20:21:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA01445 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:21:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14018; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:20:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:20:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13769; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from 24.64.138.125.on.wave.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13755; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:19:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from 24.64.138.125.on.wave.home.com (24.64.138.125 -> 24.64.138.125.on.wave.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:19:58 -0500 Received: from ratross ([10.1.1.22]) by 24.64.138.125.on.wave.home.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA21449 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:29:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kate@bored.lexxdog.com) Message-ID: <007d01bf7041$f1962f80$1601010a@bored.lexxdog.com> From: "kate" To: Subject: re: tp730 Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:31:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: I recently picked up a thinkpad 730t from ebay. This is the samsonite cased state farm system. In order to make it into a better docking station I cut the docking unit in 2 and remounted the power supply under the 730. You can see some pics at, http://lexxdog.com/~kate/730t Kate From cph Sun Feb 6 09:15:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA13019 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 09:15:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15487; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 09:14:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 09:12:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15241; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 09:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.clinet.fi (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15228; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 09:11:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.clinet.fi (194.100.0.7 -> mail.clinet.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 09:11:59 -0500 Received: from TP560X (255-29.dyn.clinet.fi [194.100.255.29]) by mail.clinet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA04173 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 16:11:51 +0200 Message-Id: <200002061411.QAA04173@mail.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 14:11:07 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <20000205194436.VQUH10642.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> Subject: Re: 701 memory X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.06 c06 (Unregistered) List-Unsubscribe: This is what I meant - there are no modules (AFAIK) bigger than 32 MB for the 701. Given that it has been discontinued for many years already, I very much doubt any manufacturer would start producing proprietary 64 MB (or bigger) modules for the 701. Even the 32 MB cost about as much as the 64 MB for newer Thinkpads. Dominique On Sat, 05 Feb 2000 at 02:46 PM you, "Tom Trottier" , said: >Hi Dominique >That's what I mean - has anyone installed a 64MB or more RAM module? >Tom >On 5 Feb 00, at 0:29, Dominique Pivard spoke about >*Re: 701 memory..* saying >> On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 at 01:19 PM you, "Tom Trottier" >> , said: >> >> >Has anyone installed more than 40MB on a 701? >> >> How would that be possible? The 701 had either 4 MB or 8 MB soldered >> on the motherboard and (AFAIK) the largest optional RAM module for it >> is 32 MB. From cph Sun Feb 6 11:37:39 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA13309 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 11:37:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20042; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 11:35:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 11:35:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19897; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 11:35:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from spamgaaf.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19880; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 11:34:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from spamgaaf.compuserve.com (149.174.217.151 -> as-img-6.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 11:34:58 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spamgaaf.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id LAA12522 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 11:34:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 11:34:39 -0500 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: TPad Overclocking software found... Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: thinkpad Message-ID: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id LAA13310 Below is the html code for an application which adjusts the clock speed of the front edge bus on the fly! It warns of running only if the m'board is supported and a couple of IBM thinkpad references are included. Cut and paste it out of this mail and save as an htm file. Open locally and have a read. The website is included in the details. Comments sought... Mark SoftFSB for Win32 English documentation 

 
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 NrkLv Presents  --------------------


SoftFSB     Version 1.7x


Copyright (c) 1998-99  By H.Oda!  All Rights Reserved.


English documentation




About SoftFSB

The purpose of this Windows application is to change the base clock ( FSB / Front Side Bus ) frequency without having to restart the machine. Any FSB changes are instantaneous.

Originally this software was made to see if it was possible to set FSB values which cannot be set by using the BIOS.


Warning !!

If you are a beginner, do not use this software. This software is for power users only.
If you don't know who manufactured your motherboard, or your PLL-IC model, do not use this software.

Use "SoftFSB.EXE" at your own risk.

You should change the FSB up and down one step at a time because you may damage the CPU if you don't.
(For example, if you change it from 66MHz to 133MHz in one go ... that's bad news!)

If you raise the FSB too high then it is possible that the CPU may not function correctly anymore, and the system will hang.

If your PC hangs and you can't restart it, power off. Wait a little while and turn it on again, after making sure that no damage has been done to any of your PC components. Also, if it does not return to how it was normally, you must clear your CMOS.

"Does SoftFSB support my M/B or PC ?" I hear you ask; the answer is "I don't know !!".
Don't send me e-mails regarding this question.

Visually check the PLL-IC type on your motherboard. If the PLL-IC that you found is listed in SoftFSB then try it!

If you ask me "Does SoftFSB support my PLL-IC ?", don't forget to include the following information:

  • Motherboard name (Eg: ASUS P2B Revision 1.10 )
  • Chip-set name (Eg: BX Chip-set )
  • PLL-IC name (Eg: Winbond W83194R-39A )
  • The URL where I can find the data sheet of your PLL-IC.

It is possible to make the PLL-IC data file with yourself, even if SoftFSB is unsupported PLL-IC. Please try to think that makes the PLL-IC data file with yourself and see the datasheet of PLL-IC first of all.


Supported Operating Systems

SoftFSB runs under Windows 95/98 and Windows NT 4.0/5.0 in both Japanese and English language versions.

It will probably run with the following chipsets ...

    Intel PIIX4, PIIX4E Controller M/B
    440BX, 440ZX, 440EX, 440GX, 440LX, 430TX, 450NX Chip-set
    Intel 82801AA, 82801AB Controller M/B
    i810, i810e, i820, i840 Chip-set
    VIA VT82C596A, VT82C596B, VT82C586B VT82C686A Controller M/B
    Apollo Pro 133/133A, Apollo Pro Plus, Apollo Pro, Apollo MVP3, Apollo VP3 Chip-set
    AMD 756 Controller M/B
    AMD-750 Chip-set

SoftFSB will run on any motherboards referred to on my Official HomePage.

* The PLL-IC chipset used may differ with differents revisions of the motherboard. If it won't run with your revision, chipset etc, sorry :-)

* The AOpen motherboards are different and can not retrieve information on the current FSB.



If you are using the M/B(temperature) sensor software, maybe ... you can't use SoftFSB. Synchronous control with that software is necessary.

Mr. t_knz "MAX1617 monitor software 1617mon" and Mr.PENTIUM 666MHz "LM75/LM78 STATUS for Windows WLMSTAT" are already supporting a synchronous control. It can use at the same time as SoftFSB.

If you are using WaterFall Pro ... You can use SmartBus Control Module. and add SoftFSB.ini, but "this operaton is Unguarantee"

    [EXTOPTION]
    SmartBus=1


Operations

  • Choosing a Motherboard from the Motherboard Menu
    1. Choose your Motherboard from "Target Motherboard".
    2. Click the "Get FSB" button.
      "Current FSB (PCI) : External", the "Select FSB (PCI) : External" menu, "Set FSB", the "TaskTray" button, and the "Slide bar" for selecting the FSB(PCI) are enabled.
    3. Set the FSB(PCI) using the "Slide bar".
    4. Click on the "Set FSB" button.
    5. If that operation completes correctly, the FSB clock will change.

  • Choosing a PLL-IC from the PLL-IC Menu
    1. Choose your PLL-IC from "Target Clock Generator (PLL-IC)".
    2. Click the "Get FSB" button.
      "Current FSB (PCI) : External", the "Select FSB (PCI) : External" menu, the "Set FSB" button, and the "Slide bar" for selecting the FSB(PCI) are enabled.
    3. Set the FSB(PCI) using the "Slide bar".
    4. Click on the "Set FSB" button.
    5. If that operation completes correctly, the FSB clock will change.

  • Using the TaskTray mode
    1. Perform one of the above two steps.
    2. Click on the "Get FSB" button, and the "TaskTray" button will be enabled.
    3. Click on the "TaskTray" button.
    4. Turn "Enable TaskTray" ON.
    5. Select the "Auto Start" tab. Select the FSB(PCI) Value to be set when SoftFPS starts up.
      and turn "Enable setting" ON.
    6. Select the "Auto Exit" tab. Select the FSB(PCI) Value to be set when SoftFPS quits.
      and turn "Enable setting" ON.
    7. After you restart SoftFSB, the TaskTray mode will be enabled.
    8. If you want the same FSB setting every time you reboot, added SoftFPS to the Startup folder in the Start Menu.

  • Making/adding a PLL-IC data file with yourself
    1. Select the menu "File" - "Create" - "PLL-IC Data ...". open "SoftFSB PLL-IC data creator" window.
    2. Seeing the datasheet of PLL-IC. and Input of all itemsin the window.
    3. Saving the file ( *.PLL ).
    4. Active the "Target Clock Generator".
    5. Select the menu "Import PLL-IC ...". and load a PLL-IC data file.
    6. It can select new PLL-IC with "Target Clock Generator".
    7. *If you put/save the new PLL-IC to the same folder with SoftFSB, It is possible to load automatically at the time of SoftFSB starting.

Supported PLL-ICs

At present the following PLL-ICs have been tested with SoftFSB.... However, there is no guarantee that any of these will work with your motherboard.

    IC-Works
    W123x W124x W126x W127x
    W131x
    W144x W145x W148x W149x
    W150x W153x W156x
    W160x W164x
    W196x
    W204x
    W42S51-01x
    W48S68-01x W48S68-03x
    W48S87-04x W48S87-27x
    W48S88-01x W48S88-03x
    W48S101-04x W48S111-14x W48S112-24x
    .
    ICS
    9148xx-04 9148xx-08 9148xx-17 9148xx-26 9148xx-36
    9148xx-37 9148xx-46 9148xx-47 9148xx-53 9148xx-58
    9148xx-60
    9150xx-04 9150xx-08
    9248xx-39
    9250xx-08
    .
    Winbond
    W83193R-01 W83193R-02 W83193R-04
    W83194R-17 W83194R-37 W83194R-39 W83194R-39A
    W83196S-14
    .
    PhaseLink
    PLL52C63-01
    PLL52C65-02
    PLL52C66-23 PLL52C66-28 PLL52C66-29
    PLL52C66-31 PLL52C66-38 PLL52C66-39
    PLL52C68-02 PLL52C68-04
    .
    IMI
    SC643 SC654
    SG543
    SG745 SG748 SG750
    .
    C-Media
    CMA8864-04 CMA8864-17 CMA8864-26 CMA8864-36 CMA8864-37
    CMA8864-39


Unsupported PLL-ICs

The following PLL-ICs cannot have their settings altered by software. (This is the main thing people ask me about)

    IC-Works
    W130x W137x W146x W155x
    W48C100-01x W48C101-01x W48C111-12x W48C111-16x W48C111-17x
    .
    ICS
    9147xx-03 9147xx-09 9148xx-03 9148xx-10 9148xx-20
    9148xx-25 9148xx-49 9248xx-20 9248xx-50 9248xx-55
    9248x-61
    .
    PhaseLink
    PLL52C59-14 PLL52C61-23 PLL52C61-01 PLL52C62-01 PLL52C64-06
    PLL52C66-05 PLL52C68-06
    .
    IMI
    SC401 SC405 SC462 SC464 SC465
    SC468 SC471 SC480 SC481 SC484
    SC485 SC492 SC493 SC497 SC498
    SC499
    SC601 SC602 SC603 SC604 SC605
    SC606 SC607 SC608 SC609 SC610
    SC611 SC612 SC613 SC615 SC616
    SC617 SC618 SC619 SC621 SC626
    SC627 SC628 SC629 SC644 SC651
    SC652 SC653 SC657 SC660 SC661
    SC662 SC663 SC665 SC672 SC673
    SC674 SC675 SC676 SC677 SC678
    SC679 SC680 SC683 SC691 SC692
    SC693 SC695 SC698 SC699
    SG500 SG501 SG502 SG504 SG508
    SG509 SG511 SG529 SG533 SG536
    SG551 SG552 SG553 SG556 SG557
    SG559 SG570 SG571 SG572 SG577
    SG579 SG742
    XG571 XG552
    .
    C-Media
    CMA8860-xx CMA8863-03 CMA8865-27
    .
    Cypress
    CY2250 CY2252 CY2254 CY2255 CY2256
    CY2257 CY2260 CY2264 CY2265 CY2267
    CY2274 CY2278 CY2280 CY2281 CY2282
    CY2285
Winbond W83977TF-xx ... These are not Clock Generators(PLL-ICs).
They are Super I/O Controllers. Do not mistake them for PLL-ICs !!

Also, many old motherboards and PLL-ICs cannot have their settings altered by software.


Special thanks

    Mr. uriuri Mr. MARURAN Mr. MASASHI Mr. yypulsar
    Mr. bunny Mr. showlon Mr. yu- Mr. kondoh
    And many other people (^^;


History

    Old History ... A reference to the Japanese documentation
    Ver.1.5 '98/11/19[THU] Disclosure TaskTray mode.
    Supported P2B-F(New) after BIOS 1009.
    Ver.1.6-B5 '99/04/25[SUN] Added. many PLL-IC.
    Added. Version check of DLL/VxD/SYS files.
    Ver.1.6-B7 '99/05/17[MON] Supported. i810 Chip-set.
    Supported. C-Media PLL-IC.
    Ver.1.6-B9 '99/06/19[SAT] Added. SMBus Mutex-Object Control I/F.
      SMBus Mutex-Object Support software
    • MAX1617 Monitor software 1617mon Mr. t_knz
    • LM75/LM78 STATUS for Windows WLMSTAT Mr. PENTIUM 666MHz
    Ver.1.7 '99/07/20[TUE] Added. Window of "M/B menu creator".
    Added. Window of "PLL-IC data creator".
    Chenged. "Option control".
    Added. "New Access control" of PLL-IC.
    Added. SmartBus Control (Unsupported).
    Ver.1.7a '99/07/25[SUN] Fixed. "PLL-IC data creator".
    Ver.1.7final'99/12/13[MON] v1.7 final version.


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  • This program is FREE SOFTWARE.
  • Used SoftFSB.EXE at YOUR OWN RISK.
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  • AND the author is NOT LIABLE FOR ANY BUGS but would like to hear any kind suggestions and compliments.

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From cph Sun Feb 6 12:34:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA13486 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:34:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22815; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:33:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:33:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22646; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22633; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:33:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (206.127.32.35 -> tam.dorsai.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:33:01 -0500 Received: from dorsai.org (RED-216-203-0-100.dialup.nyc.redconnect.net [216.203.0.100]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA01653 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:38:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <389DB053.266FBD5@dorsai.org> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 12:33:07 -0500 From: charles X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: a tough question concerning linux References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: hello the question is, " can a thinpad 750c support a form of linux?" the machine is usable and seems like a perfect candidate for this experiment. in addition, the lack of 'overhead' that the linux system will give this machine might be able to extend its useful life a bit. what do you think? thanks in advance From cph Sun Feb 6 12:36:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA13500 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:36:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23128; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:35:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23054; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:35:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.actionwebs.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23041; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:34:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.actionwebs.net (216.5.9.4 -> apollo.actionwebs.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:34:58 -0500 Received: from hades (pm10-42.usol.com [63.64.150.58]) by localhost.actionwebs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA07416 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:31:32 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Mark Lemon" To: Subject: TP 600 Screen Goes Crazy Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 11:47:17 -0600 Message-ID: <000501bf70d0$3dd2d900$3a96403f@hades> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Folks, My 18 month old TP 600 has begun to exhibit a strange behavior. I boot, and all the text has a "hot pink" halo on it (like it's radiating energy!), the Win98 logo screen is a 16 color mess, and the main screen has weird linear static across it. My obvious guess is the ribbon cable to the screen, but moving the screen back and forth doesn't help. Rebooting does. This will sometimes force rebooting 2 or 3 times, and then I might not see the problem for days. Any suggestions? Mark Lemon From cph Sun Feb 6 12:37:09 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA13505 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:37:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23428; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:35:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:35:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23238; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:35:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.actionwebs.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23223; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:35:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.actionwebs.net (216.5.9.4 -> apollo.actionwebs.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:35:30 -0500 Received: from hades (pm10-42.usol.com [63.64.150.58]) by localhost.actionwebs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA07436; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:31:59 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Mark Lemon" To: "'Allan Ballard'" , Subject: RE: TP760XL shutdown freeze at blue clouds scene Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 11:48:12 -0600 Message-ID: <000c01bf70d0$499d0940$3a96403f@hades> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200002042233.RAA04972@fb02.eng00.mindspring.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: Allan, Most shutdown problems I've found were traced to either virus scanners or networks. Have you added/deleted/changed either lately? Mark -----Original Message----- From: Allan Ballard [mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 4:32 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP760XL shutdown freeze at blue clouds scene Hello, My TP760CD running 'dose95 OSR2 suddenly stopped shutting down properly. It hangs at the last scene. So, I just turn it off. Is there some corrupted file that is no longer switching the machine off? Or what? A cntrl/alt/del pick Shutdown will shut 'er down. But not the normal Shutdown method. Any advice on how to fix this annoyance would be appreciated. Allan Ballard TP760XL p166 104MB TP760CD p120 64MB (and still my favorite for its ports) From cph Sun Feb 6 12:46:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA13570 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:46:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24398; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:45:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:45:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24204; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:45:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from psykolog.nu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24126; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:44:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from psykolog.nu (216.122.33.181 -> psykolog.nu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:44:59 -0500 Received: from thinkpad600e (h82n1fls3o95.telia.com [212.181.144.82]) by psykolog.nu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA16083; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:44:51 +0100 (CET) From: "Hi-Young Kim" To: , Subject: SV: TP 600 Screen Goes Crazy Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:44:57 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <000501bf70d0$3dd2d900$3a96403f@hades> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id MAA24398 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id MAA13571 I think you should take contact with IBM Help Center. My 600E did almost the same, just 6 months after the purchase. IBM replaced the TFT-screen within two work days... > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: Mark Lemon [mailto:mlemon@hickseq.com] > Skickat: den 6 februari 2000 18:47 > Till: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Ämne: TP 600 Screen Goes Crazy > > > Folks, > > My 18 month old TP 600 has begun to exhibit a strange behavior. > I boot, and > all the text has a "hot pink" halo on it (like it's radiating > energy!), the > Win98 logo screen is a 16 color mess, and the main screen has weird linear > static across it. > > My obvious guess is the ribbon cable to the screen, but moving the screen > back and forth doesn't help. Rebooting does. This will sometimes force > rebooting 2 or 3 times, and then I might not see the problem for days. > > Any suggestions? > > Mark Lemon > > From cph Sun Feb 6 12:49:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA13595 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:49:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24854; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:48:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:48:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24778; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:48:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24765; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.12 -> harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:48:16 -0500 Received: from miles (ip42.an11-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.22.42]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA14743; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 09:48:10 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: "charles" , Subject: RE: a tough question concerning linux Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 12:48:15 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <389DB053.266FBD5@dorsai.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: That's an *easy* question. I've used an old 750 running Redhat Linux 4.2 (later upgraded to 6.0) as an FTP, TFTP, and Radius server for nearly three years with nary a hiccup. My machine only has a 340-Mbyte disk, so I don't run X. But everything else works just fine. dn > -----Original Message----- > From: charles [mailto:charles@dorsai.org] > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 12:33 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: a tough question concerning linux > > > hello > the question is, " can a thinpad 750c support a form of linux?" > > the machine is usable and seems like a perfect candidate for this > experiment. > in addition, the lack of 'overhead' that the linux system will > give this machine might be able to extend its useful life a bit. > what do you think? > > thanks in advance > > > From cph Sun Feb 6 14:53:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA14031 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 14:53:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02104; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 14:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 14:50:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01964; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 14:49:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01950; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 14:49:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.19 -> fb01.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 14:49:57 -0500 Received: from engin.umich.edu (user-33qtdgl.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.182.21]) by fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22153 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 14:49:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <389DD09C.1637C8AD@engin.umich.edu> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 14:50:52 -0500 From: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" Organization: University of Michigan Engineering X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 memory References: <200002061411.QAA04173@mail.clinet.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Dominique Pivard wrote: > > This is what I meant - there are no modules (AFAIK) bigger than 32 MB for > the 701. Given that it has been discontinued for many years already, I > very much doubt any manufacturer would start producing proprietary 64 MB > (or bigger) modules for the 701. Even the 32 MB cost about as much as the > 64 MB for newer Thinkpads. > > Dominique But the modules aren't proprietary--they're just standard 72-pin FPM non-parity 3.3V SO-DIMMs. I bought a 32 MB module from Alpha Memory (memory.com) for fifty-something dollars a few months ago, while they and others were selling SO-DIMMs specifically designated for the 701 for anywhere >from $70 to $150, and it works flawlessly in my Thinkpad. The question Tom raised is, since a standard 32 MB SO-DIMM will work in the 701, might a standard 64 MB SO-DIMM work as well, despite IBM never having sold one for the Butterfly? Aaron Teitlebaum arteitle@engin.umich.edu > On Sat, 05 Feb 2000 at 02:46 PM you, "Tom Trottier" > , said: > > >Hi Dominique > > >That's what I mean - has anyone installed a 64MB or more RAM module? > > >Tom > > >On 5 Feb 00, at 0:29, Dominique Pivard spoke about > >*Re: 701 memory..* saying > > >> On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 at 01:19 PM you, "Tom Trottier" > >> , said: > >> > >> >Has anyone installed more than 40MB on a 701? > >> > >> How would that be possible? The 701 had either 4 MB or 8 MB soldered > >> on the motherboard and (AFAIK) the largest optional RAM module for it > >> is 32 MB. From cph Sun Feb 6 15:02:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA14053 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:02:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02771; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:01:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02681; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:01:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02668; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.20 -> fb02.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:01:11 -0500 Received: from engin.umich.edu (user-33qtdgl.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.182.21]) by fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21301 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:01:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <389DD33E.78B24A46@engin.umich.edu> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 15:02:06 -0500 From: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" Organization: University of Michigan Engineering X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... References: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Mark Gardiner wrote: > > Below is the html code for an application which adjusts the clock speed of > the front edge bus on the fly! > > It warns of running only if the m'board is supported and a couple of IBM > thinkpad references are included. Cut and paste it out of this mail and > save as an htm file. Open locally and have a read. The website is included > in the details. > > Comments sought... > > Mark I have no experience running it on a Thinkpad, but SoftFSB works fine on my desktop computer, built around an Abit BM6 motherboard. Of course, whenever you experiment with overclocking, be prepared for frequent lockups until you find settings that agree with your hardware.. Overclocking works well enough in desktop systems that have adequate ventilation, but I can imagine heat being a problem in notebook computers like the Thinkpad. Like I said, though, I have no experience overclocking laptops. (A program like Waterfall or CPUIdle or Rain should help keep your CPU cooler while it's idling, as well as conserve battery life on your thinkpad.) Aaron Teitlebaum arteitle@engin.umich.edu From cph Sun Feb 6 19:25:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA15119 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 19:25:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16729; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 19:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 19:23:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16642; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 19:23:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16621; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 19:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 19:23:19 -0500 Received: from ballarda (user-37ka2gb.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.10.11]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA04110; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 19:23:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001301bf7101$5872d590$6f6f6f6f@ballarda> From: "Allan Ballard" To: , Subject: Re: TP760XL shutdown freeze at blue clouds scene Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 19:21:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I did update McAfee virusscan.... No network cards in the unit. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Lemon To: 'Allan Ballard' ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 12:35 PM Subject: RE: TP760XL shutdown freeze at blue clouds scene >Allan, > >Most shutdown problems I've found were traced to either virus scanners or >networks. Have you added/deleted/changed either lately? > >Mark > >-----Original Message----- >From: Allan Ballard [mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com] >Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 4:32 PM >To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: TP760XL shutdown freeze at blue clouds scene > > >Hello, > >My TP760CD running 'dose95 OSR2 suddenly stopped >shutting down properly. It hangs at the last scene. > >So, I just turn it off. > >Is there some corrupted file that is no longer switching the >machine off? Or what? > >A cntrl/alt/del pick Shutdown will shut 'er down. > >But not the normal Shutdown method. > >Any advice on how to fix this annoyance would >be appreciated. > Allan Ballard > TP760XL p166 104MB > TP760CD p120 64MB (and still my favorite for its ports) > From cph Sun Feb 6 20:33:53 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA15368 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 20:33:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29230; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 20:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 20:32:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29082; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 20:32:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from marlborough.cnchost.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29069; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 20:32:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from marlborough.cnchost.com (207.155.248.14 -> marlborough.concentric.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 20:32:09 -0500 Received: from RJWLaptop1 (ts004d46.nas-tn.concentric.net [208.177.100.202]) by marlborough.cnchost.com id UAA27414; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 20:32:03 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.8] Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000206172917.00b616d0@pop3.iceka1.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka1.com@pop3.iceka1.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 17:30:24 -0800 To: "Hi-Young Kim" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: SV: TP 600 Screen Goes Crazy In-Reply-To: References: <000501bf70d0$3dd2d900$3a96403f@hades> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id UAA15369 At 06:44 PM 02/06/2000 +0100, you wrote: >I think you should take contact with IBM Help Center. My 600E did almost the >same, just 6 months after the purchase. IBM replaced the TFT-screen within >two work days... I had same problem--only it was intermittent (and therefore difficult to replicate when I needed them to know about it). Once they realize there *is* a problem, its clearly a screen/connection problem that is fixable under warranty. - Randy > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > > Från: Mark Lemon [mailto:mlemon@hickseq.com] > > Skickat: den 6 februari 2000 18:47 > > Till: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Ämne: TP 600 Screen Goes Crazy > > > > > > Folks, > > > > My 18 month old TP 600 has begun to exhibit a strange behavior. > > I boot, and > > all the text has a "hot pink" halo on it (like it's radiating > > energy!), the > > Win98 logo screen is a 16 color mess, and the main screen has weird linear > > static across it. > > > > My obvious guess is the ribbon cable to the screen, but moving the screen > > back and forth doesn't help. Rebooting does. This will sometimes force > > rebooting 2 or 3 times, and then I might not see the problem for days. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Mark Lemon > > > > > From cph Sun Feb 6 23:04:00 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA16110 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:04:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15609; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:03:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:02:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15466; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:02:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad1 (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15449; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:02:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad1 (12.79.28.198 -> 198.morristown-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:02:42 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01bf711f$e3a305e0$c61c4f0c@thinkpad1> From: "Donald Mak" To: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" , References: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com> <389DD33E.78B24A46@engin.umich.edu> Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:00:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: SoftFSB will not work with with any TP that I have tried. I think the only one that is supported is the 535. TP 770's (and probably the 600 series) use the IMI-XG571C pll-ic chip for setting the bus frequency. This chip cannot be modified by software. Donald Mak ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" To: Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... > Mark Gardiner wrote: > > > > Below is the html code for an application which adjusts the clock speed of > > the front edge bus on the fly! > > > > It warns of running only if the m'board is supported and a couple of IBM > > thinkpad references are included. Cut and paste it out of this mail and > > save as an htm file. Open locally and have a read. The website is included > > in the details. > > > > Comments sought... > > > > Mark > > I have no experience running it on a Thinkpad, but SoftFSB works fine on my > desktop computer, built around an Abit BM6 motherboard. Of course, whenever > you experiment with overclocking, be prepared for frequent lockups until you > find settings that agree with your hardware.. Overclocking works well enough > in desktop systems that have adequate ventilation, but I can imagine heat > being a problem in notebook computers like the Thinkpad. Like I said, > though, I have no experience overclocking laptops. (A program like Waterfall > or CPUIdle or Rain should help keep your CPU cooler while it's idling, as > well as conserve battery life on your thinkpad.) > > Aaron Teitlebaum > arteitle@engin.umich.edu > From cph Sun Feb 6 23:57:09 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA16312 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:57:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19963; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:55:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:55:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19886; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:55:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19873; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:55:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:55:23 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-184.gate.net [207.36.212.184]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA95266; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:54:46 -0500 Message-ID: <389E504C.CA5E8107@gate.net> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 23:55:41 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dominique Pivard CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 memory References: <200002061411.QAA04173@mail.clinet.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: when the 701 was designed, the 32meg chips were still in the dream stage.. so IBM documentation says max memory is 24megs.. then the 32meg part came available from IBM at about $2k.. since that time the price has gone down and the density of the chips has gone up.. it is correct that these are a standard SO-DIMM and that any which conform to the spec SHOULD work.. most do, some MAY not.. i can check and learn, and maybe get a 64meg part to try on one of my 701C machines.. it would sure be nice if these WOULD work.. :-) Dominique Pivard wrote: > This is what I meant - there are no modules (AFAIK) bigger than 32 MB for > the 701. Given that it has been discontinued for many years already, I > very much doubt any manufacturer would start producing proprietary 64 MB > (or bigger) modules for the 701. Even the 32 MB cost about as much as the > 64 MB for newer Thinkpads. > > Dominique > > On Sat, 05 Feb 2000 at 02:46 PM you, "Tom Trottier" > , said: > > >Hi Dominique > > >That's what I mean - has anyone installed a 64MB or more RAM module? > > >Tom > > >On 5 Feb 00, at 0:29, Dominique Pivard spoke about > >*Re: 701 memory..* saying > > >> On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 at 01:19 PM you, "Tom Trottier" > >> , said: > >> > >> >Has anyone installed more than 40MB on a 701? > >> > >> How would that be possible? The 701 had either 4 MB or 8 MB soldered > >> on the motherboard and (AFAIK) the largest optional RAM module for it > >> is 32 MB. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 7 00:03:38 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA16385 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:03:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20850; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:02:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:02:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20776; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:02:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20755; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:02:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:02:13 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-184.gate.net [207.36.212.184]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA22818; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:01:30 -0500 Message-ID: <389E51E0.A1B4D269@gate.net> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 00:02:25 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Bender CC: "'Thinkpad List'" Subject: Re: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! References: <000101bf6f84$638833e0$140aa8c0@brianbnt5> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Brian... ROLF.. "EasyCemetery" !!! :-) if write the story out, complete with "EasyCemetery" i'll start the complaint page with this one.. it IS sadly apparent that easy serve has, it appears, changed to easy money... ever since it was sold (to some retired IBM execs, i was told) things have changed to what you and many others have experienced.. Brian Bender wrote: > Just to follow up, I finally got my home^H^H^H^HThinkpad (is that sad, or > what? ) back this morning, one week after sending it away. All was well > as soon as I talked to someone back at IBM support (as opposed to the > EasyServ folks where they're running this "Hazzard county" scam). Now all > that remains to be seen is whether a charge still shows up on my CC. I've > got a separate case # from the (very nice) woman at IBM I talked to who > straightened the mess out, so even if they try to bill me, it won't stick. > :-P > > The PC itself seems fixed up just fine. But has anyone noticed how cheesy > the EasyServ shipping boxes are now? Just a 5 or 6 inch thick box with some > foam in it. Remember how they used to do it, big 'ol box with the "air > ride" suspension in them? Ah, the good old days...... > > Later folks, (I've got a _lot_ of work to catch up on ) > > - Brian > Count Thinkpad -- an "undead" TP600, back from the EasyCemetery > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian Bender [mailto:bbender@vocollect.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 12:28 PM > > To: Randal Whittle; Thinkpad List > > Subject: Re: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! > > > > > > Yeah, of course you guys are right. I took it up one level, > > and they're > > repairing it free of charge. > > This is a helluva racket EasyServ is running -- they jump you > > while they've got > > your (in some cases anyway) primary means of making a living > > and act like a > > bunch of no-good used car salesmen (no offense to any > > *honest* car salesmen out > > there ). > > > > Despite the quick and resonable resolution once I got back > > inside IBM, I'm > > still going to follow this up with a chain of bitch letters. > > The "new" > > EasyServ definitely does not reflect well on IBM's PC group... > > > > Thanks for helping me get my head on straight, guys, > > > > - Brian > > > > Randal Whittle wrote: > > > > > At 12:12 PM 02/01/2000 -0500, you wrote: > > > >With the system board replaced, of course... ;-) > > > >We're going to fight about the $700. > > > > > > Escalate--NOW. If you wait until later you'll be > > eating that $700. > > > > > > - Randy > > > > > > > - Brian > > > > > > > >"Cottrell, Eric" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > Well if it smoked I doubt it would be useful if you got it back. > > > > > > > > > > 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com WB1HBU > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Brian Bender [mailto:bbender@vocollect.com] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 11:57 AM > > > > > To: Thinkpad List > > > > > Subject: Arrgh, EasyServ'd!!! > > > > > > > > > > Called today (2/1) to check up on it and was told it > > was on "billable > > > > > hold". Talked to a Chris Johnson in the billing dept., > > who proceeded to > > > > > tell me that "it smoked" when the techs put it on the > > bench, and that > > > > > they are billing *me* $700+ for the system board replacement!!! > > > > > > > > > > In your opinion, folks, am I right in waiting until I > > get the machine > > > > > back before I start fighting them? If I start a battle > > now, they're > > > > > just going to hold the thing until it's resolved, > > right? I'm losing > > > > > work by the day limping along on a machine that doesn't > > have all my > > > > > development tools, etc., on it. My plan is to raise > > holy @#$&* once > > > > > I get it back, but don't I risk being without machine > > indefinitely if > > > > > I escalate it now? > > > > > > > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 7 00:27:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA16487 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:27:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22759; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:26:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:25:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22614; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:25:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22601; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:25:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:25:41 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-184.gate.net [207.36.212.184]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA14078; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:25:33 -0500 Message-ID: <389E5763.3D08D08@gate.net> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 00:25:56 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: charles CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: a tough question concerning linux References: <389DB053.266FBD5@dorsai.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the older the machine, the more likely linux will run on it well... (well, to a point) go for it..! :-) charles wrote: > hello > the question is, " can a thinpad 750c support a form of linux?" > > the machine is usable and seems like a perfect candidate for this experiment. > in addition, the lack of 'overhead' that the linux system will give this machine might be able to extend its useful life a bit. > what do you think? > > thanks in advance -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 7 00:28:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA16500 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:28:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23041; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:27:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:27:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22965; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:27:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22951; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:27:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:27:33 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-184.gate.net [207.36.212.184]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA117750; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:27:26 -0500 Message-ID: <389E57DA.E2419ACA@gate.net> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 00:27:54 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... References: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I read thruogh a bit of the code, well, only the text parts.. :-) but, for me, i'll not mess with it... especially on a production machine.. other comments would be interesting to hear... :-) Mark Gardiner wrote: > Below is the html code for an application which adjusts the clock speed of > the front edge bus on the fly! > > It warns of running only if the m'board is supported and a couple of IBM > thinkpad references are included. Cut and paste it out of this mail and > save as an htm file. Open locally and have a read. The website is included > in the details. > > Comments sought... ***SNIP*** -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 7 01:59:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA16805 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 01:59:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28062; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 01:57:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 01:57:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27932; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 01:57:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.clinet.fi (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27913; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 01:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.clinet.fi (194.100.0.12 -> smtp.clinet.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 01:57:04 -0500 Received: from tp701 (255-14.dyn.clinet.fi [194.100.255.14]) by smtp.clinet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA08444 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:55:51 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200002070655.IAA08444@smtp.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 08:57:40 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <389E504C.CA5E8107@gate.net> Subject: Re: 701 memory X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 List-Unsubscribe: Bill, If you can get a 64MB SO-DIMM to work in a 701, I'd sure buy one from you right away ... Dominique On Mon, 07 Feb 2000 at 08:56 AM you, Bill Morrow , said: >it is correct that these are a standard SO-DIMM and that any which >conform to the spec SHOULD work.. >most do, some MAY not.. >i can check and learn, and maybe get a 64meg part to try on one of my >701C machines.. it would sure be nice if these WOULD work.. :-) From cph Mon Feb 7 04:41:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA17263 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:41:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08490; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:39:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:38:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08395; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:38:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08177; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:34:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:34:59 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-71.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.71]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA21377; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:34:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000207043830.011d7ca0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 04:38:30 -0800 To: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, thinkpad From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... In-Reply-To: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:34 AM 02/06/2000 -0500, Mark Gardiner wrote: >Below is the html code for an application which adjusts the clock speed of >the front edge bus on the fly! > >It warns of running only if the m'board is supported and a couple of IBM >thinkpad references are included. Cut and paste it out of this mail and >save as an htm file. Open locally and have a read. The website is included >in the details. Well, Thinkpads use the MMC-1 (Mobile Module Connector) and 2 from Intel. I wonder what PLL-IC is onboard? The SoftFSB Software references a, "Thinkpad 535x," which appears to be a model released in Japan. There is a list of MBs and PLL-ICs. I didn't see any other references for Thinkpads. On the remote possibility we can alter the FSB (Intel includes only two states for their MMC module as expected 66mhz and 100mhz via the FQS clock selector (0 = 66mhz, 1 = 100mhz), we need to find the correct PLL or find a PLL plug in file and determine if the FSB can be changed at all on the fly. If the FSB is essentially hardwired in at two states, then SoftFSB is useless with the MMC component. Older models used the older Pentium II MMC module that has 512k cache at 1:2 speed and run at Intel specs of 233mhz, 266mhz, 300mhz (IE, TP600, TP 770ED, X) Newer models use the newer Pentium II MMC module that has 256k cache at full speed and run at Intel specs of 266mhz, 300mhz, 333mhz, 366mhz, 400mhz (IE, TP600E, TP 770Z). The cache size is a quick indicator of which MMC you are using. Running SoftFSB to determine if it's pre-existing reference file of MBs and PLLs contains a compatible entry appears to not harm equipment. Either it will come back as, "unknown," or it will come back with the wrong results (IE, Selecting Thinkpad 535x for a TP600 or TP770 will come back with a 40mhz FSB speed. One of the MBs I selected reported a 600E and 770Z running @ 133mhz FSB! ). I will (or someone else can), spend the hour or two stepping through *EVERY* MB and PLL entry and hope to find a compatible PLL. If not, and the MMC actually supports a flexible PLL device, we need to find out the exact PLL component being used and hunt down or create a compatible PLL plug-in. How does SoftFSB work on Intel's Seattle reference BX chipset motherboards for desktop products? It isn't like Intel endorses overclocking. :) Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Mon Feb 7 04:47:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA17306 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:47:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA09182; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:45:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:45:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA09084; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:45:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08686; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:41:34 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-71.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.71]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA23565 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:41:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000207044508.011da290@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 04:45:08 -0800 To: From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... In-Reply-To: <000b01bf711f$e3a305e0$c61c4f0c@thinkpad1> References: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com> <389DD33E.78B24A46@engin.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:00 PM 02/06/2000 -0500, Donald Mak wrote: >SoftFSB will not work with with any TP that I have tried. I think the only >one that is supported is the 535. >TP 770's (and probably the 600 series) use the IMI-XG571C pll-ic chip >for setting the bus frequency. This chip cannot be modified by software. > >Donald Mak Well, at least that answered my question(s) in my last message about the exact pll chip being used and could it be altered by software. :( I guess that rules out a pll plug-in too. On the flip side, has anyone had the will (Read: heart) to try connecting a faster Pentium II MMC inside their unit? (Assuming you could get one) :) Based on the reference design spec, I wonder why IBM didn't offer a final model of the 770 with a P2-400 chip in it like they did with the 600e (66mhz FSB stays the same, but multiplier goes from 5.5x to 6x). Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Mon Feb 7 04:48:53 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA17315 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:48:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA09539; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:47:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:47:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA09459; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08748; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:43:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:43:19 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-71.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.71]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA24227 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:43:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000207044653.011dea80@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 04:46:53 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: 701 memory In-Reply-To: <389E504C.CA5E8107@gate.net> References: <200002061411.QAA04173@mail.clinet.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:55 PM 02/06/2000 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >when the 701 was designed, the 32meg chips were still in the dream stage.. >so IBM documentation says max memory is 24megs.. >then the 32meg part came available from IBM at about $2k.. >since that time the price has gone down and the density of the chips has gone >up.. > >it is correct that these are a standard SO-DIMM and that any which conform to >the spec SHOULD work.. >most do, some MAY not.. > >i can check and learn, and maybe get a 64meg part to try on one of my 701C >machines.. it would sure be nice if these WOULD work.. :-) That's an interesting subject. I would like to know if the 701 series can go beyond 40megs, as a few clients still use them and swear by them. Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Mon Feb 7 05:13:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA17406 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 05:13:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA12207; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 05:08:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 05:08:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA12134; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 05:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11818; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 05:04:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 05:04:41 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-71.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.71]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA01516; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 05:04:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000207050814.011dfa30@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 05:08:14 -0800 To: "Donald Mak" From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... Cc: In-Reply-To: <000b01bf711f$e3a305e0$c61c4f0c@thinkpad1> References: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com> <389DD33E.78B24A46@engin.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:00 PM 02/06/2000 -0500, Donald Mak wrote: >SoftFSB will not work with with any TP that I have tried. I think the only >one that is supported is the 535. >TP 770's (and probably the 600 series) use the IMI-XG571C pll-ic chip >for setting the bus frequency. This chip cannot be modified by software. I checked the design spec on this chip. It references supporting the Pentium, Pentium Pro and Mobile Pentium (MTXC) processor but does not mention the Pentium II (MMC). In addition, this chip only supports 60mhz and 66mhz bus speeds which would indicate it is designed around the Pentium spec, not the Pentium II spec. Are you sure the Pentium II series Thinkpad 770's and 600's use this pll? In IBM's twbook and tbook, they state the 770 (95491AU Pentium 233mmx) and 770x (95495AU P2-300mhz) use the same MTXC Intel mobile package which I would think is wrong considering MTXC means Mobile TX chipset which was made for Pentium CPUs not P2's, but I could be mistaken. Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. 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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From cph Mon Feb 7 08:47:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA18134 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:47:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26583; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:45:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:44:49 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26337; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:44:48 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id IAA19632 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15029; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 22:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (24.2.0.66 -> ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 6 Feb 2000 22:52:37 -0500 Received: from bigboy ([24.2.180.95]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20000207035215.JRYN18674.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@bigboy> for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 19:52:15 -0800 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 22:58:23 -0500 Message-ID: <01BF70F5.AB32E100.ipenman@iname.com> From: Ian Penman To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: a tough question concerning linux Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 22:58:22 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: >From my own exterience with linux & thinkpads... I have a 760cd with 40megs & 3.1G drive running SuSe 6.2, X-windows & Oracle 8.0 It works just fine..a little slow when Oracle is running. I did have RedHat 5.2 running on my wife's 755cd also. The only gotcha is the x-windows config. There are a couple of sites that have the needed configuration file for download. Ian -----Original Message----- From: David Newman [SMTP:dnewman@networktest.com] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 12:48 PM To: charles; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: a tough question concerning linux That's an *easy* question. I've used an old 750 running Redhat Linux 4.2 (later upgraded to 6.0) as an FTP, TFTP, and Radius server for nearly three years with nary a hiccup. My machine only has a 340-Mbyte disk, so I don't run X. But everything else works just fine. dn > -----Original Message----- > From: charles [mailto:charles@dorsai.org] > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 12:33 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: a tough question concerning linux > > > hello > the question is, " can a thinpad 750c support a form of linux?" > > the machine is usable and seems like a perfect candidate for this > experiment. > in addition, the lack of 'overhead' that the linux system will > give this machine might be able to extend its useful life a bit. > what do you think? > > thanks in advance > > > From cph Mon Feb 7 10:32:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA18736 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:32:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04975; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:30:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04668; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:30:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04655; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:30:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.19 -> fb01.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:30:27 -0500 Received: from tp600 ([209.138.36.101]) by fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA18620 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:30:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000d01bf7180$75c858c0$65248ad1@tp600> Reply-To: "James" From: "James" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Specs on new Thinkpad Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 07:31:50 -0800 Organization: US EPA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know the specs for the up coming new Thinkpads? Thanks From cph Mon Feb 7 10:38:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA18798 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:38:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05626; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:37:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:37:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05546; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:37:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05532; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.122 -> mta1.snfc21.pbi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:36:58 -0500 Received: from dan ([209.233.224.66]) by mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with SMTP id <0FPK00D2SGP0CV@mta1.snfc21.pbi.net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 07:36:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 07:36:22 -0800 From: Dan Galender Subject: 3 Questions on Capturing Sound on a ThinkPad 770Z To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) List-Unsubscribe: I want to use my ThinkPad to record some of my old (out of print, CDs never produced) vinyl LPs and cut CDs from them. I have some sound editing software (Sonic Foundry's SoundForge with their CD Architect and Noise Reduction plugins) and a CD-ROM burner. I know that most sound cards have both "Mic in" and Line in" but the ThinkPad 770Z only has "Mic in". Can anyone tell me the difference between "Mic in" and "Line in"? Can I use "Mic in" to record from my amplifier? If not, is there a PCCARD sound card that someone can recommend I look at that does have "Line in"? Thanks in advance. -Dan Galender From cph Mon Feb 7 10:45:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA18833 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:45:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06610; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:44:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:44:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06522; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06512; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:44:48 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.10 -> imo20.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:44:48 -0500 Received: from DunnNaturesWay@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id o.8.f3a596 (8329) for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:44:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8.f3a596.25d0426a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:44:42 EST Subject: newsletter To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 44 List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I would like to subscribe to the Thinkpad newsletter. I have a 755CX - 9545SBK. Thank you, William From cph Mon Feb 7 11:38:50 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA19282 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:38:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15582; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:37:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:36:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15431; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:36:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15158; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (32.100.39.127 -> slip-32-100-39-127.nj.us.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:32:52 -0500 Message-ID: <003d01bf7188$ae24c700$7f276420@cijeczcig1x68u> From: "Donald Mak" To: "Mark Bell" Cc: References: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com><389DD33E.78B24A46@engin.umich.edu> <3.0.6.32.20000207050814.011dfa30@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:30:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: Mark, I got these numbers from actually viewing a 770ED motherboard. It may be possible that IBM changed the chip on the 770Z or X and I don't know what the 600 series uses but generally IBM uses the same manufaturer across lines. I have the chip numbers at home for the Intel chipset as well. I will post it later. Perhaps then we can figure out if the 770's have the MTXC Intel mobile package. Donald Mak ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Bell To: Donald Mak Cc: Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 8:08 AM Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... > At 11:00 PM 02/06/2000 -0500, Donald Mak wrote: > >SoftFSB will not work with with any TP that I have tried. I think the only > >one that is supported is the 535. > >TP 770's (and probably the 600 series) use the IMI-XG571C pll-ic chip > >for setting the bus frequency. This chip cannot be modified by software. > > I checked the design spec on this chip. It references supporting > the Pentium, Pentium Pro and Mobile Pentium (MTXC) processor but does > not mention the Pentium II (MMC). In addition, this chip only supports > 60mhz and 66mhz bus speeds which would indicate it is designed > around the Pentium spec, not the Pentium II spec. Are you sure the > Pentium II series Thinkpad 770's and 600's use this pll? > > In IBM's twbook and tbook, they state the 770 (95491AU Pentium 233mmx) > and 770x (95495AU P2-300mhz) use the same MTXC Intel mobile > package which I would think is wrong considering MTXC means Mobile > TX chipset which was made for Pentium CPUs not P2's, but I could be mistaken. > > Mark > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > ------------------------------------------------- > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > Network and System consultation and installation > -------------------------------------------------- > From cph Mon Feb 7 11:49:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA19353 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:49:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16848; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:45:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:45:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16750; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:45:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16739; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:45:24 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.65 -> imo21.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:45:24 -0500 Received: from KEN52455@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id o.bc.111ea5f (4442) for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:45:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:45:19 EST Subject: Port Replicator for 770E? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: Would appreciate knowing where, if any, I can purchase a port replicator for the 770E at the cheapest price. I'm not even sure if such an item exists for this particular Thinkpad...Thanks Ken From cph Mon Feb 7 11:58:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA19396 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:58:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18799; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:56:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:56:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18607; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:56:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18579; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (200.36.38.5 -> CHAPALA.lagunanet.net.mx) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:56:17 -0500 Received: from 148.243.6.93 ([148.243.6.93]) by chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (Build 93 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA11478 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2000 10:52:47 -0600 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 13:41:09 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: <1pen44mipx8J092yn@islandnet.com> References: In-Reply-To: Lines: 32 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: I wonder, is it difficult for the list to have a filter so that: Every message with "unsubscribe" in the subject line (such as this one!) does not go to the list, but receives a reply telling how to unsubscribe; Every message in HTML or with an attachment greater than ?K does not go to the list, but receives a suitable reply; Every message to the list from a non-subscriber does not go to the list, but receives a message telling how to subscribe. To do the first thing, at islandnet.com, I'd put the following line in the mailrule file: reply if subject contains "unsubscribe" with "unsub.txt" and I'd have to prepare the reply email "unsub.txt" (with headers) However, the other two things would be trickier! If this is "real work", please accept my apology in advance. -- cheers Jonathan From cph Mon Feb 7 11:58:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA19411 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:58:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18795; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:56:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:56:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18641; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:56:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18576; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (200.36.38.5 -> CHAPALA.lagunanet.net.mx) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:56:14 -0500 Received: from 148.243.6.93 ([148.243.6.93]) by chapala.lagunanet.net.mx (Build 93 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA11477 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2000 10:52:41 -0600 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Making a startup disk with CD Rom enabled Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 13:28:20 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: <0den44mipFQf092yn@islandnet.com> References: <20000204211324.14669.qmail@www0i.netaddress.usa.net> <030b01bf6f58$b50a0080$03785a8e@pmachule> <005f01bf6f62$b3377ee0$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> In-Reply-To: <005f01bf6f62$b3377ee0$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Lines: 44 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: He's still here, yeah! Two computers still run Win95a (the original Win95 with the service pack and then all the MS fixes to the service pack). Many of the fixes require a reboot, so the reinstallation process can be long, even when done from a HD. I haven't had to reinstall on either machine (one a 701 and the other an old desktop Pentium) in a long long time. You'd think a proper operating system would be consistent with having a way for the updates to modify the .CAB files, so that the next time you have to reinstall, it only takes two minutes. There is a site which tells you which fixes you need and whether you have to reboot after each, but, although the author makes it as simple as he can, it just ain't simple. Incidentally, anybody wanting a free internet account in the UK might note that the address of free-online is http://www.free-online.net/ (not dot com) >> The time you spend setting everything back up pales in comparison to >> troubleshooting instability. > >This depends a bit on how old one's software is, and how well one made notes >w/every >upgrade/service pack. I have avoided a fresh reinstalling W95 on one of my >machines because >it would involve 10-15 service patches/upgrades even *after* reinstalling all >the software, and I'm not sure I have all these patches in storage. > >- David R. > > > -- cheers Jonathan From cph Mon Feb 7 12:07:14 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA19453 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:07:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20137; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:05:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:05:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20053; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:05:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from Viola.Opus1.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20040; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:05:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from Viola.Opus1.COM (192.245.12.8 -> Viola.Opus1.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:05:02 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.2-32 #9830) id <01JLMEFZFTDC98CR50@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:04:59 MST Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 09:58:53 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: 3 Questions on Capturing Sound on a ThinkPad 770Z In-reply-to: "Your message dated Mon, 07 Feb 2000 07:36:22 -0800" Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <01JLMESWKTMS98CR50@Opus1.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Dan Galender writes - > Can anyone tell me the difference between "Mic in" and "Line in"? A microphone (mic in) almost always will have a much lower signal output level (the amplitude of the electrical signal in the wire) than will another device such as a CD player (line in). You can use the "Mic in" but you will need an attenuator to drop the signal level from whatever you are feeding into this input such that it does not get overloaded. When it does, the sound will become distorted. Shops such as Radio Shack probably have something that'd work. You may even be able to find a cable with a built-in attenuator. Billy Y.. From cph Mon Feb 7 14:08:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA20267 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:08:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01831; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:05:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:04:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01641; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:04:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.cableone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01627; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:04:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.cableone.net (24.116.0.57 -> mail3.cableone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:04:41 -0500 Received: from thinkpad ([24.116.4.112]) by mail3.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:04:28 -0700 Message-ID: <001a01bf719e$0e7fef20$0200a8c0@thinkpad> Reply-To: "Charles McDaniel" From: "Charles McDaniel" To: "thinkpad" References: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com><389DD33E.78B24A46@engin.umich.edu> <3.0.6.32.20000207050814.011dfa30@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> <003d01bf7188$ae24c700$7f276420@cijeczcig1x68u> Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:03:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Will this work on a 755cx P-75..?? don't know the chip numbers but if someone will tell me where to look i will check..without tearing my whole TP apart.. Charles McDaniel 1971 Firebird 1977 Trans Am 1992 Ford (ugh) Mustang LX Convertable 5.0 written on a IBM TP 755cx old but usable fav quote: Somewhere in the Darkness.. Fav Quake quote:don't worry about it EVERYONE dies sooner or later.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Mak" To: "Mark Bell" Cc: Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 10:30 AM Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... > Mark, > I got these numbers from actually viewing a 770ED motherboard. > It may be possible that IBM changed the chip on the 770Z or X > and I don't know what the 600 series uses but generally IBM > uses the same manufaturer across lines. > > I have the chip numbers at home for the Intel chipset as well. > I will post it later. Perhaps then we can figure out if the 770's > have the MTXC Intel mobile package. > > Donald Mak > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Bell > To: Donald Mak > Cc: > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 8:08 AM > Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... > > > > At 11:00 PM 02/06/2000 -0500, Donald Mak wrote: > > >SoftFSB will not work with with any TP that I have tried. I think the > only > > >one that is supported is the 535. > > >TP 770's (and probably the 600 series) use the IMI-XG571C pll-ic chip > > >for setting the bus frequency. This chip cannot be modified by software. > > > > I checked the design spec on this chip. It references supporting > > the Pentium, Pentium Pro and Mobile Pentium (MTXC) processor but does > > not mention the Pentium II (MMC). In addition, this chip only supports > > 60mhz and 66mhz bus speeds which would indicate it is designed > > around the Pentium spec, not the Pentium II spec. Are you sure the > > Pentium II series Thinkpad 770's and 600's use this pll? > > > > In IBM's twbook and tbook, they state the 770 (95491AU Pentium 233mmx) > > and 770x (95495AU P2-300mhz) use the same MTXC Intel mobile > > package which I would think is wrong considering MTXC means Mobile > > TX chipset which was made for Pentium CPUs not P2's, but I could be > mistaken. > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > > Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 > > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > > Network and System consultation and installation > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > From cph Mon Feb 7 14:16:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA20326 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:16:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02814; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:14:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02709; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:14:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.zebra.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02690; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.zebra.net (209.12.13.2 -> mail.zebra.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:14:34 -0500 Received: from bryan ([209.12.15.166]) by mail.zebra.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id net; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:13:22 -0600 Message-ID: <001a01bf719f$78e9f300$a60f0cd1@bryan> From: bwjones@zebra.net (Bryan Jones) To: "Dan Galender" , Subject: Re: 3 Questions on Capturing Sound on a ThinkPad 770Z Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:13:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Dan, For the best audio quality try one of the products from Edirol, www.edirol.com These interfaces allow you to bring in many different audio sources at different levels for recording on your PC or laptop. I also believe that Emu, www.emu.com makes a PC Card interface that has good quality audio inputs. Bryan Jones -----Original Message----- From: Dan Galender To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 9:36 AM Subject: 3 Questions on Capturing Sound on a ThinkPad 770Z >I want to use my ThinkPad to record some of my old (out of print, CDs never >produced) vinyl LPs and cut CDs from them. I have some sound editing >software (Sonic Foundry's SoundForge with their CD Architect and Noise >Reduction plugins) and a CD-ROM burner. I know that most sound cards have >both "Mic in" and Line in" but the ThinkPad 770Z only has "Mic in". > > >Can anyone tell me the difference between "Mic in" and "Line in"? > >Can I use "Mic in" to record from my amplifier? > >If not, is there a PCCARD sound card that someone can recommend I look at >that does have "Line in"? > > >Thanks in advance. > > >-Dan Galender > > From cph Mon Feb 7 14:59:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA20669 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:59:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06778; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:58:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:57:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06622; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06608; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:57:33 -0500 Received: from kaste ([12.75.199.70]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000207195728.FVBF1419@kaste> for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:57:28 +0000 Message-ID: <002b01bf71a5$1ad25e00$e024fea9@kaste> Reply-To: "Kaste" From: "Kaste" To: Subject: TP 380ED and Linux Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:54:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: I purcahsed a Thinkpad 380ED, 32 ram, 2.1gb hdd, 20x cdrom, 56k modem, 12.1 dual scan screen. I have not yet recived it, so that is all I can tell you. I also have Mandrake Red Hat 6.5 Linux. I wondered if anyone had installed linux on this laptop and knows if there is anything i need to be careful of. Also I have a Linksys 10bt ethernet adaptor. A friend of mine has the 10/100 card. Both are pcmcia, does anyone know where to get driver for linux? Thanks Garrett Kaste. From cph Mon Feb 7 15:02:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA20715 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:02:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07291; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:00:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:00:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07217; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07173; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:00:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:00:18 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-189.gate.net [207.36.212.189]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA59860; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:59:39 -0500 Message-ID: <389F2446.406E45EE@gate.net> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 15:00:06 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KEN52455@aol.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Port Replicator for 770E? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: its called a selectabase 770.. new cost was, i think, either $200 or $100 (i forgot exactly) if you want me to look it up, i will, but i have no time to do it right now.. the FRU P/N is: 83H6735 i saw one or two on ebay.. (caveat emptor) KEN52455@aol.com wrote: > Would appreciate knowing where, if any, I can purchase a port replicator for > the 770E at the cheapest price. I'm not even sure if such an item exists for > this particular Thinkpad...Thanks > Ken -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 7 15:03:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA20735 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:03:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07506; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:01:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:01:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07423; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07388; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:01:30 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-189.gate.net [207.36.212.189]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA52786; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:00:45 -0500 Message-ID: <389F2489.D8BA5E5E@gate.net> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 15:01:13 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: Specs on new Thinkpad References: <000d01bf7180$75c858c0$65248ad1@tp600> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: which upcoming new thinkpad..?? :-) theres a thread on my open forum section regarding the most recent guesses.. James wrote: > Does anyone know the specs for the up coming new Thinkpads? > > Thanks -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 7 16:10:50 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA21362 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:10:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14690; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:09:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:08:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14534; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhop1.nyroc.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14516; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:07:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhop1.nyroc.rr.com (24.92.226.166 -> mailhop1-1.nyroc.rr.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:07:49 -0500 Received: from mailout2.nyroc.rr.com ([24.92.226.121]) by mailhop1.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:05:07 -0500 Received: from dynamocomputers.com ([24.94.35.212]) by mailout2.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 15:57:58 -0500 Message-ID: <389F344B.2D42617@dynamocomputers.com> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:08:27 -0500 From: Pete Hatton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: linux...pcmcia on dock Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I've been having problems with PCMCIA slots being recoginized under Redhat 6.1 when on a dock. With my 760ED on a Selectadock II, if i try to use the ports on the system it locks up immeditely. The ports on the dock work fine. On a Dock II the slots on the system work but the ones on the dock don't do anything. I have tried a 760CD on the DockII with the same results. any ideas on how to get all PCMCIA slots to work while docked? ---------------------------------- Pete Hatton http://www.dynamocomputers.com From cph Mon Feb 7 16:51:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA21628 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:51:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19155; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:49:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19032; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:49:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from box3.pyrrhusoft.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19012; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:49:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from box3.pyrrhusoft.com (204.181.48.59 -> p204.181.48.59.syspac.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:49:05 -0500 Received: (from jones@localhost) by box3.pyrrhusoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id OAA17226; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:47:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:47:45 -0700 Message-Id: <200002072147.OAA17226@box3.pyrrhusoft.com> From: David Jones To: pete@dynamocomputers.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: linux...pcmcia on dock Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I cannot speak for Redhat but for Slackware, PCIC_OPTS, in the configuration file, "rc.pcmcia", requires an additional parameter to search for extra sockets; viz.: PCIC_OPTS="poll_interval=100 extra_sockets=1" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:08:27 -0500 From: Pete Hatton I've been having problems with PCMCIA slots being recoginized under Redhat 6.1 when on a dock. With my 760ED on a Selectadock II, if i try to use the ports on the system it locks up immeditely. The ports on the dock work fine. On a Dock II the slots on the system work but the ones on the dock don't do anything. I have tried a 760CD on the DockII with the same results. any ideas on how to get all PCMCIA slots to work while docked? ---------------------------------- Pete Hatton http://www.dynamocomputers.com From cph Mon Feb 7 17:20:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA21867 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:20:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21676; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:19:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:18:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21475; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:18:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21462; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:18:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.37 -> mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:18:07 -0500 Received: from kaste ([12.75.199.221]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000207221805.JASM26879@kaste> for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 22:18:05 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01bf71b8$c2930780$e024fea9@kaste> Reply-To: "Kaste" From: "Kaste" To: Subject: TP 380ED Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:14:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Another question : On a Thinkpad 380ED, what is the largest hard drive I can put in there. IBM says 5.1gb, but I have seen web pages that sell hard drives as large at 8.1gb for the 380ED. I am planning to but a 6.4gb in if i can. Thanks Garrett Kaste. From cph Mon Feb 7 17:25:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA21893 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:25:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22449; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:24:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:24:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22353; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from haupia.lava.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22336; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:24:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from haupia.lava.net (199.222.42.44 -> haupia.lava.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:24:32 -0500 Received: from lava.net(wiliwili025.lava.net[207.26.193.120]) (1406 bytes) by haupia.lava.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:24:30 -1000 (HST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #2 built 1999-Dec-7) Message-ID: <389F45F2.5EE08242@lava.net> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 12:23:46 -1000 From: pirate X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: USB for vintage thinkpads References: <000b01bf71b8$c2930780$e024fea9@kaste> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: --Hey everyone, a while back we had a string discussing whether or not it would be possible to put USB on older thinkpad machines. Well I 've found a few things that'll do the trick. I've just entered the PDA arena with my trusty new IBM workpad 20x, and looking for toys for it in Mobile Planet I've found some USB adapters for PCMCIA. I've also found a whole bunch of other adapters that will connect to the PC card slot and give you all kinds of ports, all bundled together. There are some really cool items on their website, but their catalogue has even more stuff. Just FYI. Cheers, Keith Honolulu, Hawaii Keith Wong System Admin - Document Imaging Honolulu Police Department - Records Division Office: (808) 529-3434 Emails: wongk007@hawaii.rr.com pirate@lava.net kwong@email.uophx.edu From cph Mon Feb 7 19:11:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA22746 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:11:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01252; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:06:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00975; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:06:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00688; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:02:13 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-69.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.69]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA11307; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:01:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000207190519.01350100@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:05:19 -0800 To: , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Port Replicator for 770E? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:45 AM 02/07/2000 EST, KEN52455@aol.com wrote: >Would appreciate knowing where, if any, I can purchase a port replicator for >the 770E at the cheapest price. I'm not even sure if such an item exists for >this particular Thinkpad...Thanks Ken, There is a nice gent on ebay selling Mobile Solutions Replicators for the TP 770 series. These have all the ports PLUS 10/100 3Com Ethernet connectivity. He had them in abundance, and you can get them for $95/ea. I bought one to see how they work, and they work fine and are better than IBM's Selectabase 770 IMHO. His email address is bkeil@nji.com. Ask him if he has any left @ $95/ea. They are brand new and normally retail for $250+ Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Mon Feb 7 21:53:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA23710 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:53:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11524; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:50:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:49:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11187; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10994; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:45:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:45:56 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-91.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.91]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA08036 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:45:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000207214906.01350de0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 21:49:06 -0800 To: Thinkpad From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Specs on new Thinkpad In-Reply-To: <389F2489.D8BA5E5E@gate.net> References: <000d01bf7180$75c858c0$65248ad1@tp600> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 03:01 PM 02/07/2000 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >which upcoming new thinkpad..?? :-) >theres a thread on my open forum section regarding the most recent >guesses.. > >James wrote: > >> Does anyone know the specs for the up coming new Thinkpads? The new Thinkpad 775 (9550-XXX) slated for May 2000 release. It has: -P3-500/P3-650 (Speed Step technology) -128megs of ram standard (Expandable to 576 megs) -14.1" XGA TFT or 15" SXGA (1400x1050) TFT panels (Ack, formfactor warning! I smell DELL!) -8 megs of video ram (Rage 3D AGP chipset) -25gig HD (standard) -3rd gen DVD drive or CD-ROM (10-24x) -Ultrabay compatibility with existing 770 devices -8.2lbs -MSRP $4899.00 Everything else listed was standard fare items (Cardbus, USB, standard ports, etc...) I'm glad IBM finally got off of their proverbial behinds and extended the top tier design with new models. They've managed to embrace all the new advents of portable technology and pack them into their flagship machines. I'll probably go with the 650/DVD model after I wake up from this dream I just weaved to make myself feel better about IBM settling on the 600 series as their flagship models. :) Of course everyone knows I'm joking, right? ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Mon Feb 7 21:53:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA23718 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:53:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11528; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:50:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:49:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11207; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10993; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:45:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:45:56 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-91.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.91]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA07985; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:45:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000207213942.01351aa0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 21:39:42 -0800 To: penzance@gate.net From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: Port Replicator for 770E? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <389F2446.406E45EE@gate.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 03:00 PM 02/07/2000 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >its called a selectabase 770.. >new cost was, i think, either $200 or $100 (i forgot exactly) >if you want me to look it up, i will, but i have no time to do it right now.. >the FRU P/N is: 83H6735 > >i saw one or two on ebay.. >(caveat emptor) > > > >KEN52455@aol.com wrote: > >> Would appreciate knowing where, if any, I can purchase a port replicator for >> the 770E at the cheapest price. I'm not even sure if such an item exists for >> this particular Thinkpad...Thanks >> Ken Selectabase 770's normally go new for ~$199.95 - $219.95 depending on vendor. Unless you need potential PCMCIA functionality or PCI slots, I would go with the mobility's Port 770. It includes all the connectors the Selectabase has PLUS built in 3com 10/100 Ethernet. If you can't manage to track one down used, the go new for $250.00 and some vendors have them on close out. I've compared them side by side with my Selectabase, and they are better from design to the fact they have ALL the port connectors on the BACK instead of some on the back and on the side and they are sleek in design. Of course if you need PCMCIA slots or PCI/ISA expansion, you have to go with the Selectabase 770, as it attaches to the Selectabase 1,2 and 3. Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Mon Feb 7 23:51:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA24268 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:51:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17434; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:49:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:48:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17310; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rpi.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17297; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:48:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rpi.edu (128.113.100.7 -> mail.rpi.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:48:52 -0500 Received: from nb (polywrath-18.dynamic.rpi.edu [128.113.194.107]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA15694 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:48:51 -0500 From: "A Kumar" To: "List Thinkpad" Subject: RE: Specs on new Thinkpad Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:44:14 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000207214906.01350de0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> List-Unsubscribe: 650 ??? what is it and when is it comming out? -----Original Message----- From: Mark Bell [mailto:bytehead@bellatlantic.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 12:49 AM To: Thinkpad Subject: Re: Specs on new Thinkpad I'm glad IBM finally got off of their proverbial behinds and extended the top tier design with new models. They've managed to embrace all the new advents of portable technology and pack them into their flagship machines. I'll probably go with the 650/DVD model after I wake up from this dream I just weaved to make myself feel better about IBM settling on the 600 series as their flagship models. :) Of course everyone knows I'm joking, right? ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Tue Feb 8 00:43:31 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA24646 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 00:43:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20083; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 00:41:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 00:41:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20010; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 00:41:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19844; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 00:37:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 00:37:33 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-10.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.10]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA19017; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 00:37:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000208004104.00814180@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 00:41:04 -0800 To: "Donald Mak" From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... Cc: In-Reply-To: <003d01bf7188$ae24c700$7f276420@cijeczcig1x68u> References: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com> <389DD33E.78B24A46@engin.umich.edu> <3.0.6.32.20000207050814.011dfa30@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:30 AM 02/07/2000 -0500, Donald Mak wrote: >Mark, >I got these numbers from actually viewing a 770ED motherboard. >It may be possible that IBM changed the chip on the 770Z or X >and I don't know what the 600 series uses but generally IBM >uses the same manufaturer across lines. If you physically verified the component in an ED, I, too, would assume the same component is used across the lines in the 770 series.....darn. :( >I have the chip numbers at home for the Intel chipset as well. >I will post it later. Perhaps then we can figure out if the 770's >have the MTXC Intel mobile package. Thanks, I would like to see them too. The only reason I could see the post Pentium 770 models having the MTXC is for the host controller portion, not the processor portion of the package itself. Perhaps a carry over from the 1AUs? ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Tue Feb 8 02:51:10 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA25137 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 02:51:10 -0500 Resent-From: owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25639; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 02:49:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 02:48:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25428; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 02:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25415; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 02:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from msn.com (207.46.181.59 -> cpimssmtpe12.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 02:48:44 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:47:48 -0800 Received: from netlib2.cs.utk.edu - 128.169.92.17 by msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:01:18 -0800 Received: from na-net.ornl.gov (marvin@localhost) by netlib2.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9t-netlib) id OAA19045; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:53:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:53:17 -0500 Resent-Message-Id: <200002071953.OAA19045@netlib2.cs.utk.edu> Received: from owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu for stuart.mcdonald@na-net.ornl.gov; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:53:17 -0500 (EST) Resent-to: Stuart_McDonald@msn.com (by na-net.ornl.gov) Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu [127.0.0.1]) by netlib2.cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9t-netlib) id OAA19038; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:53:15 -0500 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (128.169.94.1 -> CS.UTK.EDU) by netlib2.cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:53:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06781; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:58:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:57:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06622; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06608; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:57:33 -0500 Received: from kaste ([12.75.199.70]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000207195728.FVBF1419@kaste> for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 19:57:28 +0000 Message-ID: <002b01bf71a5$1ad25e00$e024fea9@kaste> Reply-To: "Kaste" From: "Kaste" To: Subject: TP 380ED and Linux Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:54:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: I purcahsed a Thinkpad 380ED, 32 ram, 2.1gb hdd, 20x cdrom, 56k modem, 12.1 dual scan screen. I have not yet recived it, so that is all I can tell you. I also have Mandrake Red Hat 6.5 Linux. I wondered if anyone had installed linux on this laptop and knows if there is anything i need to be careful of. Also I have a Linksys 10bt ethernet adaptor. A friend of mine has the 10/100 card. Both are pcmcia, does anyone know where to get driver for linux? Thanks Garrett Kaste. From cph Tue Feb 8 06:08:39 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA25612 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 06:08:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12886; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 06:06:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 06:04:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12653; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 06:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from spamgaac.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12639; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 06:04:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from spamgaac.compuserve.com (149.174.217.146 -> as-img-3.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 06:04:43 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spamgaac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id GAA29078 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 06:04:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 06:03:26 -0500 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: External Battery Chargers/HDD Caddies Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: thinkpad Message-ID: <200002080603_MC2-9834-CC7F@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id GAA25613 I have come across some external battery chargers for the Thinkpad line in UK *and* HDD drive caddies... If anyone isinterested in them please let me know and I will see how many I can do a deal on... Mark +44 1252 710141 From cph Tue Feb 8 09:41:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA26660 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:41:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24305; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:39:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:38:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24173; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:38:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24156; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:38:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.85 -> gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:38:48 -0500 Received: from miles (ip227.eagle.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.160.227]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA20872; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 06:38:43 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: "A Kumar" , Subject: RE: Specs on new Thinkpad Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:38:41 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Also, for us Linux-using types, any idea what modem the 775 and/or 650 will use? Please don't say Mwave. dn > -----Original Message----- > From: A Kumar [mailto:kassoc-2@idt.net] > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 11:44 PM > To: List Thinkpad > Subject: RE: Specs on new Thinkpad > > > 650 ??? what is it and when is it comming out? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Bell [mailto:bytehead@bellatlantic.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 12:49 AM > To: Thinkpad > Subject: Re: Specs on new Thinkpad > > > I'm glad IBM finally got off of their proverbial behinds > and extended the top tier design with new models. They've > managed to embrace all the new advents of portable technology > and pack them into their flagship machines. I'll probably go > with the 650/DVD model after I wake up from this dream I > just weaved to make myself feel better about IBM settling > on the 600 series as their flagship models. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course everyone knows I'm joking, right? > > ------------------------------------------------- > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > ------------------------------------------------- > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > Network and System consultation and installation > -------------------------------------------------- > > From cph Tue Feb 8 13:15:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA28325 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:15:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13315; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:09:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:07:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12963; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from spamgaac.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12950; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from spamgaac.compuserve.com (149.174.217.146 -> as-img-3.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:07:19 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spamgaac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id NAA15262 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:07:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:06:57 -0500 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: USB for vintage thinkpads Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Cc: thinkpad Message-ID: <200002081307_MC2-984E-C5D3@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id NAA28326 ...also at www.allusb.com ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: pirate, INTERNET:pirate@lava.net CC: thinkpad, INTERNET:thinkpad@cs.utk.edu DATE: 07/02/2000 22:26 RE: USB for vintage thinkpads --Hey everyone, a while back we had a string discussing whether or not it would be possible to put USB on older thinkpad machines. Well I 've found a few things that'll do the trick. I've just entered the PDA arena with my trusty new IBM workpad 20x, and looking for toys for it in Mobile Planet I've found some USB adapters for PCMCIA. I've also found a whole bunch of other adapters that will connect to the PC card slot and give you all kinds of ports, all bundled together. There are some really cool items on their website, but their catalogue has even more stuff. Just FYI. Cheers, Keith Honolulu, Hawaii Keith Wong System Admin - Document Imaging Honolulu Police Department - Records Division Office: (808) 529-3434 Emails: wongk007@hawaii.rr.com pirate@lava.net kwong@email.uophx.edu ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by spamgaaf.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) with ESMTP id RAA03221 for <100550.3170@compuserve.com>; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22382; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:24:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22353; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from haupia.lava.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22336; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:24:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from haupia.lava.net (199.222.42.44 -> haupia.lava.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:24:32 -0500 Received: from lava.net(wiliwili025.lava.net[207.26.193.120]) (1406 bytes) by haupia.lava.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:24:30 -1000 (HST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #2 built 1999-Dec-7) Message-ID: <389F45F2.5EE08242@lava.net> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 12:23:46 -1000 From: pirate X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: USB for vintage thinkpads References: <000b01bf71b8$c2930780$e024fea9@kaste> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: From cph Tue Feb 8 16:06:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA29913 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:06:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04502; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:03:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:57:08 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03764; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:57:03 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id PAA15537 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13679; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:12:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:12:32 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-87.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.87]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA18560; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:12:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000208090122.00816bf0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 09:01:22 -0800 To: "Donald Mak" From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... Cc: In-Reply-To: <003d01bf7188$ae24c700$7f276420@cijeczcig1x68u> References: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com> <389DD33E.78B24A46@engin.umich.edu> <3.0.6.32.20000207050814.011dfa30@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 11:30 AM 02/07/2000 -0500, Donald Mak wrote: >Mark, >I got these numbers from actually viewing a 770ED motherboard. >It may be possible that IBM changed the chip on the 770Z or X >and I don't know what the 600 series uses but generally IBM >uses the same manufaturer across lines. > >I have the chip numbers at home for the Intel chipset as well. >I will post it later. Perhaps then we can figure out if the 770's >have the MTXC Intel mobile package. One more question. When you had the ED opened up, did you see what type of CPU carrier it used? (MMC1, MMC2?). I am trying to figure out why Intel offered 280-pin (MMC1) and 400-pin (MMC2) casings for their P2 CPUs even through the newer 256k cache 1:1 P2-400 models offered. The P3 only uses MMC2 packaging. If anyone's interested, Intel used the Thinkpad 770's as their reference system when testing their mobile Pentium II CPUs >from 266-400mhz: http://www.intel.com/mobile/performance/pentiumii/pii_bmarks.htm#3DMarkCPU* Intel used the Thinkpad 600 as their reference system when testing their mobile Pentium III CPUs: http://www.intel.com/mobile/performance/pentiumiii/piii_bmarks.htm#3dwinbench Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Tue Feb 8 17:37:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA30668 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:37:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13110; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:36:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:34:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12935; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:34:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12922; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:34:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from tam.dorsai.org (206.127.32.35 -> tam.dorsai.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:34:38 -0500 Received: from dorsai.org (RED-216-203-0-56.dialup.nyc.redconnect.net [216.203.0.56]) by tam.dorsai.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA04762 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:40:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38A099F3.F8776226@dorsai.org> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 17:34:27 -0500 From: charles X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: thinkpad 750 hd References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: hello thanks to all that were kind enough to give me some advice and information concerning linux and thinkpad 750 possibilities. it seems that the main obstacle here is the small hard drive that is standard for the 750c does anyone know which IBM hard drives are 750c compatible? perhaps i can get a bigger hard drive, but which one and which size. thanks again From cph Tue Feb 8 18:02:24 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA30811 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 18:02:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15091; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 18:00:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:59:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15015; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:59:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15002; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:59:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (206.31.56.7 -> main.ismi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:59:52 -0500 Received: from denhall (tc7-24.ismi.net [207.51.197.79]) by main.ismi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA05396; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:59:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00cd01bf7291$4a73f140$4fc533cf@denhall> From: "Denis Hall" To: "charles" , Subject: Re: thinkpad 750 hd--available... Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 18:04:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hi Charles, I've got some 2.1Gb HD's for your 750 -- ready to snap in and go... $99 Let me know if you'd like one... here's a link to photo of the drives: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=179162&a=1305315&p=14576415&Sequence=0 Have a Great Day, Denis Hall, Michigan -----Original Message----- From: charles To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 4:36 PM Subject: thinkpad 750 hd >hello > >thanks to all that were kind enough to give me some advice and information concerning linux and thinkpad 750 possibilities. > >it seems that the main obstacle here is the small hard drive that is standard for the 750c > >does anyone know which IBM hard drives are 750c compatible? >perhaps i can get a bigger hard drive, but which one and which size. > >thanks again > > > From cph Tue Feb 8 20:59:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA31847 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 20:59:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25984; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 20:57:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 20:56:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25891; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 20:56:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad1 (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25618; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 20:52:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad1 (12.79.29.68 -> 68.morristown-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 8 Feb 2000 20:52:11 -0500 Message-ID: <003201bf729f$f5e97eb0$441d4f0c@thinkpad1> From: "Donald Mak" To: "Mark Bell" Cc: References: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com><389DD33E.78B24A46@engin.umich.edu><3.0.6.32.20000207050814.011dfa30@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> <3.0.6.32.20000208090122.00816bf0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 20:49:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: All I remember of the processor is that it was rather easy to remove. Two screws holding down what must have been a tape cartridge. Two thin metal sheets with the processor somewhere in between the two layers. As for the chips: IMI XG571CYB /* This must be the PLL-IC */ 9829 F4977A SALT 74FCT 3807 APY /* This is also some sort of clock generator */ P9829M /* probably for the dram */ Intel PCI Set /* PCI support for the Pentium II and Celeron processors */ FW82371AB F834SB09 PCI Bus PCI 1250AGFN E 81261 53 VS9824AJ E4 PC 97338 VLJ /* ACPI 1.0 and PC98/99 Compliant Super I/O */ 20H2987 IBM 0398 /* Don't remember if I ever figured this one out */ 1B27039LO Crystal CS4237B-KQ EP /* OK, Crystal gave this one away */ ATAWFE 9834 And off the Modem IBM 3780i 08J1 960 Japan /* I was rather impressed with the specs on this one from the chips.ibm.com site */ 1B1 6011PQ /* Apparently, it's design can handle multiple phone lines and speeds up to 112k */ 0398 /* But as most IBM products, they are only half realized */ Donald Mak ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Bell" To: "Donald Mak" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 12:01 PM Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... > At 11:30 AM 02/07/2000 -0500, Donald Mak wrote: > >Mark, > >I got these numbers from actually viewing a 770ED motherboard. > >It may be possible that IBM changed the chip on the 770Z or X > >and I don't know what the 600 series uses but generally IBM > >uses the same manufaturer across lines. > > > >I have the chip numbers at home for the Intel chipset as well. > >I will post it later. Perhaps then we can figure out if the 770's > >have the MTXC Intel mobile package. > > One more question. When you had the ED opened up, did you > see what type of CPU carrier it used? (MMC1, MMC2?). I am > trying to figure out why Intel offered 280-pin (MMC1) and > 400-pin (MMC2) casings for their P2 CPUs even through > the newer 256k cache 1:1 P2-400 models offered. The > P3 only uses MMC2 packaging. > > If anyone's interested, Intel used the Thinkpad 770's as their > reference system when testing their mobile Pentium II CPUs > from 266-400mhz: > > http://www.intel.com/mobile/performance/pentiumii/pii_bmarks.htm#3DMarkCPU* > > Intel used the Thinkpad 600 as their reference system when testing > their mobile Pentium III CPUs: > > http://www.intel.com/mobile/performance/pentiumiii/piii_bmarks.htm#3dwinbenc h > > > > Mark > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > ------------------------------------------------- > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > Network and System consultation and installation > -------------------------------------------------- > From cph Wed Feb 9 00:47:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA00590 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 00:47:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07927; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 00:44:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 00:36:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07661; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 00:36:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07426; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 00:31:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 00:31:34 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-19.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.19]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA13692; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 00:31:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000209003512.008165b0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 00:35:12 -0800 To: "Donald Mak" From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... Cc: In-Reply-To: <003201bf729f$f5e97eb0$441d4f0c@thinkpad1> References: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com> <389DD33E.78B24A46@engin.umich.edu> <3.0.6.32.20000207050814.011dfa30@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> <3.0.6.32.20000208090122.00816bf0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:49 PM 02/08/2000 -0500, Donald Mak wrote: >All I remember of the processor is that it was rather easy to remove. Two >screws holding >down what must have been a tape cartridge. Two thin metal sheets with the >processor somewhere >in between the two layers. It sounds like a MMC1 or 2 then and not the low cost soldered in model (would we expect anything less from IBM in their 600/770 series?) >As for the chips: > > IMI > XG571CYB /* This must be the PLL-IC */ >9829 F4977A Yep, that's it. I followed up with IMI with that part, and earlier versions only supported the Pentium (60/66mhz), but newer versions support Mobile P2's also up to 66mhz and that's as high as they go. So, basically this endeavour is at an end. :( Best bet for 770 owners is to obtain a mobile module if possible and finding a competent person to install the module depending on their machine. Essentially, a user can open up and snap in a module all the way up to 400mhz. Of course finding one may be difficult for an end user. :( BTW, do you perchance code in C/C++ (noticing your comments)? :) Mark ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Wed Feb 9 08:33:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA02144 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:33:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02840; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:30:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02712; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:30:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.cableone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02691; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:30:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.cableone.net (24.116.0.54 -> mail2.cableone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:30:02 -0500 Received: from defiant ([24.116.4.54]) by mail2.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 06:29:57 -0700 Message-ID: <001d01bf7301$c5103b00$36047418@defiant> Reply-To: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" From: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" To: "thinkpad" References: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com><389DD33E.78B24A46@engin.umich.edu> <3.0.6.32.20000207050814.011dfa30@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> <003d01bf7188$ae24c700$7f276420@cijeczcig1x68u> <001a01bf719e$0e7fef20$0200a8c0@thinkpad> Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 07:30:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: I'm going to repost this just in case it was missed the first time... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles McDaniel" To: "thinkpad" Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 1:03 PM Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... > Will this work on a 755cx P-75..?? > don't know the chip numbers but if someone will tell me where to look i will > check..without tearing my whole TP apart.. > Charles McDaniel > > 1971 Firebird > 1977 Trans Am > 1992 Ford (ugh) Mustang LX Convertable 5.0 > > written on a IBM TP 755cx old but usable > fav quote: Somewhere in the Darkness.. > Fav Quake quote:don't worry about it EVERYONE dies sooner or later.. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald Mak" > To: "Mark Bell" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 10:30 AM > Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... > > > > Mark, > > I got these numbers from actually viewing a 770ED motherboard. > > It may be possible that IBM changed the chip on the 770Z or X > > and I don't know what the 600 series uses but generally IBM > > uses the same manufaturer across lines. > > > > I have the chip numbers at home for the Intel chipset as well. > > I will post it later. Perhaps then we can figure out if the 770's > > have the MTXC Intel mobile package. > > > > Donald Mak > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mark Bell > > To: Donald Mak > > Cc: > > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 8:08 AM > > Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... > > > > > > > At 11:00 PM 02/06/2000 -0500, Donald Mak wrote: > > > >SoftFSB will not work with with any TP that I have tried. I think the > > only > > > >one that is supported is the 535. > > > >TP 770's (and probably the 600 series) use the IMI-XG571C pll-ic chip > > > >for setting the bus frequency. This chip cannot be modified by > software. > > > > > > I checked the design spec on this chip. It references supporting > > > the Pentium, Pentium Pro and Mobile Pentium (MTXC) processor but does > > > not mention the Pentium II (MMC). In addition, this chip only supports > > > 60mhz and 66mhz bus speeds which would indicate it is designed > > > around the Pentium spec, not the Pentium II spec. Are you sure the > > > Pentium II series Thinkpad 770's and 600's use this pll? > > > > > > In IBM's twbook and tbook, they state the 770 (95491AU Pentium 233mmx) > > > and 770x (95495AU P2-300mhz) use the same MTXC Intel mobile > > > package which I would think is wrong considering MTXC means Mobile > > > TX chipset which was made for Pentium CPUs not P2's, but I could be > > mistaken. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > > > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > > > Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 > > > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > > > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > > > Network and System consultation and installation > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > From cph Wed Feb 9 10:20:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA02751 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:20:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10994; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:19:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:18:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10796; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:18:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pps-1.smartworld.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10783; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:18:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from pps-1.smartworld.net (216.70.64.22 -> pps-1.smartworld.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:18:21 -0500 Received: from c454306b (cust40.tnt2.dial.van1.uunet.ca [209.167.212.40]) by pps-1.smartworld.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA73025 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:18:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003501bf7310$07067d40$61645a8e@c454306b> Reply-To: "peter machule" From: "peter machule" To: "thinkpad" Subject: Fw: TP 365X/XD,560/E,760,765 - Video driver for Windows 95/98 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 07:12:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: NEW driver ! ----- Original Message ----- From: IBM Personal Systems Group Technical Support To: IBM PSG Support Customer Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 2:48 AM Subject: TP 365X/XD,560/E,760,765 - Video driver for Windows 95/98 > Your IBM Support E-mail > > The following is an article summary which matches your IBM support > personal profile. To view the entire article, point your Web browser to the > Web address below: > > > The video driver for Microsoft Windows 95/98 has been updated to version > 6.00.47.11. > > This release supports the following systems: > - ThinkPad 365X, 365XD > - ThinkPad 560, 560E > - ThinkPad 760C, 760CD, 760L, 760LD > - ThinkPad 760E, 760ED, 760EL, 760ELD > - ThinkPad 760X, 760XD, 760XL > - ThinkPad 765D, 765L > > This release fixes the following item: > - The display screen will no longer become corrupted when using two 32MB > memory DIMMs in the ThinkPad 760LD systems. > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/RMIE-3ENEN9.html > To cancel your subscription to IBM support e-mail, go to > http://www.pc.ibm.com/support and update your personal profile. > Clear the check box entitled "I would be interested in receiving > e-mail related to my IBM system in the future." > > Please do not send other e-mail to this server. > (C) IBM Corporation > > > From cph Wed Feb 9 11:05:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA03091 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:05:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14344; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:56:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:55:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14243; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:55:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14221; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:55:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (216.32.181.242 -> law2-f242.hotmail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:55:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 14381 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2000 15:55:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20000209155543.14380.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.24.89.21 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 07:55:43 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.24.89.21] From: "Rat Boy" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 07:55:43 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Please unsubscribe me from the ng. Thank You ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph Wed Feb 9 11:54:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA03522 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:54:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20092; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:52:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:51:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19959; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:51:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19948; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:51:45 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.67 -> imo23.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:51:46 -0500 Received: from Bmwm61@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id o.6c.17d6fb4 (3991) for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:51:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6c.17d6fb4.25d2f517@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:51:35 EST Subject: 730T To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 45 List-Unsubscribe: I'd like to talk to anyone who uses pcmcia flash cards in their 730T (Slot 2 and Win3.1). I can't get my File Manager to recognize the cards. I think it's an operator error because the PC Director can read the cards. Any help? Jim (one last problem to solve) From cph Wed Feb 9 12:10:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA03652 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:10:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21515; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:08:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:08:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21427; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:08:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21414; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (32.101.169.30 -> slip-32-101-169-30.nj.us.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:08:08 -0500 Message-ID: <001901bf731f$ea5850a0$1ea96520@cijeczcig1x68u> From: "Donald Mak" To: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" , "thinkpad" References: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com><389DD33E.78B24A46@engin.umich.edu> <3.0.6.32.20000207050814.011dfa30@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> <003d01bf7188$ae24c700$7f276420@cijeczcig1x68u> <001a01bf719e$0e7fef20$0200a8c0@thinkpad> <001d01bf7301$c5103b00$36047418@defiant> Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:05:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: I doubt that it will work. SoftFSB only has a reference to the TP 535. You can always try out the different MB/PLL-IC combinations and see if any will work. Donald Mak > I'm going to repost this just in case it was missed the first time... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles McDaniel" > To: "thinkpad" > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 1:03 PM > Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... > > > > Will this work on a 755cx P-75..?? > > don't know the chip numbers but if someone will tell me where to look i > will > > check..without tearing my whole TP apart.. > > Charles McDaniel > > > > 1971 Firebird > > 1977 Trans Am > > 1992 Ford (ugh) Mustang LX Convertable 5.0 > > > > written on a IBM TP 755cx old but usable > > fav quote: Somewhere in the Darkness.. > > Fav Quake quote:don't worry about it EVERYONE dies sooner or later.. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Donald Mak" > > To: "Mark Bell" > > Cc: > > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 10:30 AM > > Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... > > > > > > > Mark, > > > I got these numbers from actually viewing a 770ED motherboard. > > > It may be possible that IBM changed the chip on the 770Z or X > > > and I don't know what the 600 series uses but generally IBM > > > uses the same manufaturer across lines. > > > > > > I have the chip numbers at home for the Intel chipset as well. > > > I will post it later. Perhaps then we can figure out if the 770's > > > have the MTXC Intel mobile package. > > > > > > Donald Mak > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Mark Bell > > > To: Donald Mak > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 8:08 AM > > > Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... > > > > > > > > > > At 11:00 PM 02/06/2000 -0500, Donald Mak wrote: > > > > >SoftFSB will not work with with any TP that I have tried. I think the > > > only > > > > >one that is supported is the 535. > > > > >TP 770's (and probably the 600 series) use the IMI-XG571C pll-ic chip > > > > >for setting the bus frequency. This chip cannot be modified by > > software. > > > > > > > > I checked the design spec on this chip. It references supporting > > > > the Pentium, Pentium Pro and Mobile Pentium (MTXC) processor but does > > > > not mention the Pentium II (MMC). In addition, this chip only supports > > > > 60mhz and 66mhz bus speeds which would indicate it is designed > > > > around the Pentium spec, not the Pentium II spec. Are you sure the > > > > Pentium II series Thinkpad 770's and 600's use this pll? > > > > > > > > In IBM's twbook and tbook, they state the 770 (95491AU Pentium 233mmx) > > > > and 770x (95495AU P2-300mhz) use the same MTXC Intel mobile > > > > package which I would think is wrong considering MTXC means Mobile > > > > TX chipset which was made for Pentium CPUs not P2's, but I could be > > > mistaken. > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > > > > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > > > > Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 > > > > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > > > > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > > > > Network and System consultation and installation > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > From cph Wed Feb 9 12:23:11 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA03757 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:23:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23151; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:21:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23061; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:21:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22516; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:17:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from cijeczcig1x68u (166.72.104.235 -> slip166-72-104-235.nj.us.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:17:30 -0500 Message-ID: <002101bf7321$38fec940$1ea96520@cijeczcig1x68u> From: "Donald Mak" To: "Mark Bell" Cc: References: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com><389DD33E.78B24A46@engin.umich.edu><3.0.6.32.20000207050814.011dfa30@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net><3.0.6.32.20000208090122.00816bf0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> <3.0.6.32.20000209003512.008165b0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:14:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: It probably would be very difficult (and expensive) to find a replacement processor. Looking at the benchmarks for different PII processors it appears there is very little performance gains between a PII 266 and a PII -400. For me the biggest gain would be to add some more memory as I notice alot of disk swaping since loading Win2K. As for C programming... It was the first language I learned so I have always regarded it as the king of languages :) I mostly do Oracle development now. (pl-sql, reports, forms etc..) Donald Mak ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Bell To: Donald Mak Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 3:35 AM Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... > At 08:49 PM 02/08/2000 -0500, Donald Mak wrote: > >All I remember of the processor is that it was rather easy to remove. Two > >screws holding > >down what must have been a tape cartridge. Two thin metal sheets with the > >processor somewhere > >in between the two layers. > > It sounds like a MMC1 or 2 then and not the low cost soldered in model > (would we expect anything less from IBM in their 600/770 series?) > > >As for the chips: > > > > IMI > > XG571CYB /* This must be the PLL-IC */ > >9829 F4977A > > Yep, that's it. I followed up with IMI with > that part, and earlier versions only supported > the Pentium (60/66mhz), but newer versions > support Mobile P2's also up to 66mhz and that's > as high as they go. So, basically > this endeavour is at an end. :( Best bet for 770 > owners is to obtain a mobile module if possible > and finding a competent person to install the > module depending on their machine. Essentially, > a user can open up and snap in a module all the > way up to 400mhz. Of course finding one may be > difficult for an end user. :( BTW, do you perchance > code in C/C++ (noticing your comments)? :) > > Mark > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > ------------------------------------------------- > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > Network and System consultation and installation > -------------------------------------------------- > From cph Wed Feb 9 13:22:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA04361 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:22:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28474; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:18:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28321; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:18:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmgaaf.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28306; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:18:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmgaaf.compuserve.com (149.174.206.139 -> ds-img-6.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:18:18 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaaf.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id NAA13065 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:18:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:18:13 -0500 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: Thinkpad spares and misc bits UK Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: thinkpad Message-ID: <200002091318_MC2-9874-A649@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id NAA04362 In addition to the Travel Quick Chargers (FRU 85G152x) and HDD cadddies, I have a few 1.44 Floppy Drives and a handful of 8Mb DRAM cards for the 750/755 models. These also fit some Toshiba and Compaq models that utilise DRAM memory too. Let me know if you want anything. Mark From cph Wed Feb 9 15:31:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA05803 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:31:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09167; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:29:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09005; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:29:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08983; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:29:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:29:17 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA16472 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:29:14 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <002701bf733c$5a94dac0$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "thinkpad" References: <200002061134_MC2-97F8-8E3F@compuserve.com><389DD33E.78B24A46@engin.umich.edu> <3.0.6.32.20000207050814.011dfa30@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> <003d01bf7188$ae24c700$7f276420@cijeczcig1x68u> <001a01bf719e$0e7fef20$0200a8c0@thinkpad> <001d01bf7301$c5103b00$36047418@defiant> Subject: Re: TPad Overclocking software found... Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:29:23 -1000 Organization: Not to a very advanced degree MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Since this thread seems unwilling to die, let me add my 2 cents: when Intel released this code last fall, there was a lot of discussion of it on the Usenet overclocking newsgroup (as one might imagine). My recollection was that it had no effect at all on virtually all machines 'in the wild', and little effect even on systems for which it was designed (apparently it was created as a test program for certain specific hardware). Anyone sufficiently optimistic/interested might go to deja and do a search for the software by name in alt.comp.hardware.overclocking - David R. From cph Wed Feb 9 16:36:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA06754 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:36:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15579; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:33:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:31:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15337; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15323; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:31:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.37 -> mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:31:27 -0500 Received: from 701c ([63.24.138.138]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000209213121.UUSK26879@701c> for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:31:21 +0000 Message-ID: <000501bf7345$18625b60$8a8a183f@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Think 701C/CS Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:31:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. Tried a 64 meg SO-DIMM. speed 60, wait state 4, non-parity,. It takes a thinkpad a while to count to 72 megs. So far, no problems. I will see how battery life is, if it hangs, that type of thing. It has not done much to improve Win 95 over 40 megs. Win 98 users May see more of a boost. P.S., I will be back around the end of the month to e-mail the 730T mirrors out. As always, have fun. From cph Wed Feb 9 16:51:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA06927 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:51:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17223; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:49:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:49:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17138; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cmich.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17125; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cmich.edu (141.209.15.119 -> mail.cmich.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:49:45 -0500 Received: from uxledkvk ([198.110.160.67]) by mail.cmich.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with SMTP id 144 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:48:51 -0500 From: "Jon W" To: Subject: Bill morrow : thanks again Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:43:56 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Bill, Just wanna let you know i got the video adapter on the mail today. Thank you again jon : sorry i do not have your personal email : From cph Wed Feb 9 17:00:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA07019 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:00:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18122; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:58:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:58:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18013; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:58:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from srvr22.engin.umich.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17991; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from srvr22.engin.umich.edu (141.213.75.21 -> srvr22.engin.umich.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:58:22 -0500 Received: from prom.engin.umich.edu (root@prom.engin.umich.edu [141.213.42.37]) by srvr22.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA01072 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:58:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (arteitle@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prom.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA27625 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:58:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:58:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Think 701C/CS In-Reply-To: <000501bf7345$18625b60$8a8a183f@701c> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, rudolph wratten wrote: > Hello. > > Tried a 64 meg SO-DIMM. > speed 60, wait state 4, non-parity,. > It takes a thinkpad a while to count to 72 megs. > So far, no problems. I will see how battery life is, > if it hangs, that type of thing. It has not done much > to improve Win 95 over 40 megs. Win 98 users > May see more of a boost. Wow! Excellent work, sir, excellent work. You've gone where no one has ever gone before. :) Aaron Teitlebaum arteitle@engin.umich.edu From cph Wed Feb 9 17:01:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA07040 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:01:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18470; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:00:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:00:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18375; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:00:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.cableone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18360; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:00:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.cableone.net (24.116.0.54 -> mail2.cableone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:00:40 -0500 Received: from defiant ([24.116.4.97]) by mail2.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:00:36 -0700 Message-ID: <001a01bf7349$1c197320$61047418@defiant> Reply-To: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" From: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" To: "thinkpad" Subject: Ibm harddrive won't fit in 755cx Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:00:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: I was in Dallas at a computer show and I bought a IBM Laptop harddrive for my TP755cx. The harddrive Model number is DPRA 21215 -1.215 gigabyte. it won't fit the pins for the connector are straight out mine go down into a connector I have a 540 Mb (original) harddrive for mine. Is this a caddy that I can remove or do I need another caddy... and where and how much for one..??? any help out there anyone..?? Charles & Melinda McDaniel Charles' E-Mail CMcDaniel@cableone.net Melinda's E-Mail SMcDaniel@cableone.net From cph Wed Feb 9 17:36:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA07469 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:36:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21610; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:34:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:33:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21490; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:33:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21472; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:33:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:33:54 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-184.gate.net [207.36.212.184]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16904; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:33:08 -0500 Message-ID: <38A1EB42.2420C1C7@gate.net> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 17:33:38 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rudolph wratten CC: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, morrow@treco.net Subject: Re: Think 701C/CS References: <000501bf7345$18625b60$8a8a183f@701c> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: VERY interesting..! :-) i was speaking to goldenram today about that very matter.. what computer is that 64meg part intended to be used in..?? rudolph wratten wrote: > Hello. > > Tried a 64 meg SO-DIMM. > speed 60, wait state 4, non-parity,. > It takes a thinkpad a while to count to 72 megs. > So far, no problems. I will see how battery life is, > if it hangs, that type of thing. It has not done much > to improve Win 95 over 40 megs. Win 98 users > May see more of a boost. > > P.S., I will be back around the end of the month to e-mail the 730T mirrors > out. > > As always, have fun. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 9 18:06:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA07794 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:06:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23749; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:05:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:04:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23653; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:04:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23639; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:04:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.60 -> smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:04:32 -0500 Received: from 209-122-243-166.s166.tnt1.hlb.nj.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.243.166] helo=ppro) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12Ig9u-0002Tq-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:04:31 -0500 Received: by ppro (VPOP3) with SMTP; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:03:02 -0500 Message-ID: <068001bf7351$cccaef20$0d00a8c0@dec5200> From: "R Briganti" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: Portable printer for z50 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:02:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary="----=_NextPart_000_067D_01BF7327.E3DF6350" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0b - Registered to: Belle Mead Claims List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_067D_01BF7327.E3DF6350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit eCost has the Canon BJ-50 portable printer (refurbished) for $178.16 with a lithium-ion battery and ink cartridge. I bought one, downloaded the CE drivers from the Canon web site and after installing them was able to print to my z50 using the ird port. Thus, no IBM printer cable was necessary. If you need it, the printer does come with a parallel port cable. Bob ------=_NextPart_000_067D_01BF7327.E3DF6350 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="eCOST.com - thousands of products at great prices!.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="eCOST.com - thousands of products at great prices!.url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=3Dhttp://www.ecost.com/sales/detail.asp?dpno=3D56557&store=3Decos= t&catalog_id=3D63 [InternetShortcut] URL=3Dhttp://www.ecost.com/sales/detail.asp?dpno=3D56557&store=3Decost&ca= talog_id=3D63 Modified=3DB06D9F675173BF01A7 ------=_NextPart_000_067D_01BF7327.E3DF6350-- From cph Wed Feb 9 19:52:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA08664 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:52:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01077; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:50:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00941; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:50:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00901; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:50:39 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-320.gate.net [199.227.173.66]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA96826; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:49:56 -0500 Message-ID: <38A20B52.C9BC9204@gate.net> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 19:50:26 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: Thinkpad spares and misc bits UK References: <200002091318_MC2-9874-A649@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Mark... post the 75x series floppy drives on my open forum... i have had several calls looking for these in the last week... Mark Gardiner wrote: > In addition to the Travel Quick Chargers (FRU 85G152x) and HDD cadddies, I > have a few 1.44 Floppy Drives and a handful of 8Mb DRAM cards for the > 750/755 models. These also fit some Toshiba and Compaq models that utilise > DRAM memory too. > > Let me know if you want anything. > > Mark -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 9 19:59:53 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA08696 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:59:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01722; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:58:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01638; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:58:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01624; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:58:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:58:34 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-320.gate.net [199.227.173.66]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA74488; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:57:22 -0500 Message-ID: <38A20CA0.8179E27F@gate.net> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 19:56:00 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles & Melinda McDaniel CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: Ibm harddrive won't fit in 755cx References: <001a01bf7349$1c197320$61047418@defiant> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: what you have is the bare HDD, what you need is the HDD caddy... i have some pictured on my web site.. the one that came with your machine is unlikely to work with the 1.2gig drive, but it IS worth a try.. its tricky to explain just how to remove the old caddy.. but start with the two screws at the plug end, then (looking at the caddy wioth the plug end up and the label facing you) locate the top left most "hook".. you must weork it free from where it latches the side.. this will make the others on that side easier to work free, then that side will fold down and you're home free.. :-) this plastic is very flexible and unlikely to tear.. Charles & Melinda McDaniel wrote: > I was in Dallas at a computer show and I bought a IBM Laptop harddrive for > my TP755cx. > The harddrive Model number is DPRA 21215 -1.215 gigabyte. it won't fit the > pins for the connector are straight out mine go down into a connector I have > a 540 Mb (original) harddrive for mine. Is this a caddy that I can remove or > do I need another caddy... and where and how much for one..??? > any help out there anyone..?? > Charles & Melinda McDaniel > > Charles' E-Mail CMcDaniel@cableone.net > > Melinda's E-Mail SMcDaniel@cableone.net -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 9 21:13:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA09342 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:13:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05903; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:11:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:10:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05787; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:10:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hillsdale.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05774; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:10:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hillsdale.edu (198.109.220.35 -> mail.hillsdale.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:10:35 -0500 Received: by mail.hillsdale.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1RXJMGC5>; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:10:09 -0500 Message-ID: <1632D5B5B556D3119C4600104B27E4D501033256@mail.hillsdale.edu> From: Netadmin To: "Thinkpad List (E-mail)" Subject: Win2K & 770ED Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:10:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, I haven't been paying attention to the list for some time and realize this issue has been covered a few times already, but I wanted to ask the quick question of whether Win2K works well (that is, no worse than Win98) on a 770ED. I am currently running WinNT and am happy with it other than the fact that I need USB support now. Since I cannot find a way to use USB on the 770 w/ NT, I am possibly turning to Win2K for a more workstation style platform that I use in the office... Any suggestions, ideas - or - a way to use USB w/ NT??? Thanks much! SNF snfettig@hillsdale.edu From cph Wed Feb 9 21:39:50 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA09534 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:39:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07605; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:37:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:37:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07507; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:37:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07492; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:37:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (216.98.165.6) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:37:15 -0500 Received: by BIGRED with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:40:54 -0600 Message-ID: From: Greg Langham To: "Thinkpad List (E-mail)" Subject: New Thinkpad 775? Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:42:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I read with interest the quick note on the new Thinkpad 775. Does anyone have a url or other information about this new machine? I was looking on the web today and couldn't find anything. Thanks. Greg From cph Thu Feb 10 00:06:38 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA10601 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:06:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14419; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:05:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:04:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14281; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:04:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.cableone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14268; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.cableone.net (24.116.0.54 -> mail2.cableone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:04:49 -0500 Received: from defiant ([24.116.4.23]) by mail2.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 22:04:44 -0700 Message-ID: <003301bf7384$5d1fb6a0$17047418@defiant> Reply-To: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" From: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" To: "thinkpad" , References: <001a01bf7349$1c197320$61047418@defiant> <38A20CA0.8179E27F@gate.net> Subject: Re: Ibm harddrive won't fit in 755cx Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:04:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: O.K. Bill that worked I took it out of the caddy and put it in the caddy and it fired up and ran just fine thanks for the assist.. Richard I'll still probley go ahead and get one of those caddys from you so I can put this harddrive in it's own caddy thanks again both of you. Charles & Melinda McDaniel Charles' E-Mail CMcDaniel@cableone.net Melinda's E-Mail SMcDaniel@cableone.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Morrow" To: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" Cc: "thinkpad" Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 6:56 PM Subject: Re: Ibm harddrive won't fit in 755cx > what you have is the bare HDD, what you need is the HDD caddy... > i have some pictured on my web site.. > the one that came with your machine is unlikely to work with the 1.2gig drive, > but it IS worth a try.. > > its tricky to explain just how to remove the old caddy.. > but start with the two screws at the plug end, then (looking at the caddy wioth > the plug end up and the label facing you) locate the top left most "hook".. > you must weork it free from where it latches the side.. > this will make the others on that side easier to work free, then that side will > fold down and you're home free.. :-) > this plastic is very flexible and unlikely to tear.. > > Charles & Melinda McDaniel wrote: > > > I was in Dallas at a computer show and I bought a IBM Laptop harddrive for > > my TP755cx. > > The harddrive Model number is DPRA 21215 -1.215 gigabyte. it won't fit the > > pins for the connector are straight out mine go down into a connector I have > > a 540 Mb (original) harddrive for mine. Is this a caddy that I can remove or > > do I need another caddy... and where and how much for one..??? > > any help out there anyone..?? > > Charles & Melinda McDaniel > > > > Charles' E-Mail CMcDaniel@cableone.net > > > > Melinda's E-Mail SMcDaniel@cableone.net > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net > > From cph Thu Feb 10 00:10:38 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA10624 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:10:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14841; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:09:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:09:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14758; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.cableone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14745; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:09:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.cableone.net (24.116.0.54 -> mail2.cableone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:09:32 -0500 Received: from defiant ([24.116.4.23]) by mail2.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 22:09:29 -0700 Message-ID: <003d01bf7385$06d61040$17047418@defiant> Reply-To: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" From: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" To: "thinkpad" Subject: picked up a nice little gadget Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:09:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: I went to First sat. in Dallas last weekend and found a New in the box Maxtor 131 Mb Pcmcia harddrive these little things are nice wish I would have bought 2 now these things come in real handy. anything special I should know about these things. anyone ever use these before..?? have and comments good or bad about them ..??problems..?? Charles & Melinda McDaniel Charles' E-Mail CMcDaniel@cableone.net Melinda's E-Mail SMcDaniel@cableone.net From cph Thu Feb 10 00:23:59 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA10708 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:23:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15949; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:22:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15847; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15834; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:22:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.34 -> out4.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:22:35 -0500 Received: from oscar ([32.100.143.12]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2000021005223123902koqsre>; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:22:33 +0000 Message-ID: <001401bf7386$4dd6d500$0c8f6420@oscar> Reply-To: "Tom Franklin" From: "Tom Franklin" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: Think 701C/CS Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 22:18:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Before everyone runs out and upgrades to 72 Megs, you better be sure that all the extra memory is cached. Adding memory that is not cached can actually slow down your machine under certain circumstances. ----- Original Message ----- > > Tried a 64 meg SO-DIMM. > > speed 60, wait state 4, non-parity,. > > It takes a thinkpad a while to count to 72 megs. > > So far, no problems. I will see how battery life is, > > if it hangs, that type of thing. It has not done much > > to improve Win 95 over 40 megs. Win 98 users > > May see more of a boost. From cph Thu Feb 10 00:47:04 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA10847 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:46:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17121; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:45:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:45:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17041; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:45:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17026; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:45:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:45:18 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA20140 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:45:14 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000701bf738a$06fa20c0$dd62183f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "ThinkPad List" References: <001401bf7386$4dd6d500$0c8f6420@oscar> Subject: Re: Think 701C/CS Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:45:19 -1000 Organization: Not to a very advanced degree MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: "Before everyone runs out and upgrades to 72 Megs, you better be sure that all the extra memory is cached. Adding memory that is not cached can actually slow down your machine under certain circumstances." Not on a 486. - David R. From cph Thu Feb 10 01:16:15 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA11043 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:16:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18344; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:13:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:13:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18262; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18249; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:12:59 -0500 Received: from worldnet.att.net ([12.77.249.57]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with ESMTP id <20000210061256.EKDD1419@worldnet.att.net>; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:12:56 +0000 Message-ID: <38A256CD.3F7CAB01@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:12:29 -0500 From: Birger Petterson Reply-To: BirgerPetterson@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-WNS5.0 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles & Melinda McDaniel CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: picked up a nice little gadget References: <003d01bf7385$06d61040$17047418@defiant> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Very nice hdd. I have 131 and 171 which I use in digital cameras. Birger From cph Thu Feb 10 01:28:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA11123 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:28:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18997; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:27:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:26:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18923; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:26:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from phnxpop1.phnx.uswest.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18898; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:26:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from phnxpop1.phnx.uswest.net (206.80.192.1 -> phnxpop1.phnx.uswest.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:26:56 -0500 Received: (qmail 23864 invoked by alias); 10 Feb 2000 06:26:54 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 23832 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2000 06:26:53 -0000 Received: from amdialup135.phnx.uswest.net (63.225.202.135) by phnxpop1.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 10 Feb 2000 06:26:53 -0000 From: Ted Wiseman To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: picked up a nice little gadget Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 23:26:48 -0700 Message-ID: <7FWiOAP1dkwQMvD5Nyr0QvtoZY5B@4ax.com> References: <003d01bf7385$06d61040$17047418@defiant> In-Reply-To: <003d01bf7385$06d61040$17047418@defiant> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.6/32.525 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id BAA11126 I've been using one for over 2 years with my TP 701. It was easily recognized by both Win95 and OS/2 4.(though I don't use it with the latter). I used Win95's Drivespace utility to double the capacity. I've had no problems with it at all. It's handy for backing up critical files and programs and has been a useful extension of the two 701 drives I have (360MB and 720MB). >I went to First sat. in Dallas last weekend and found a New in the box >Maxtor 131 Mb Pcmcia harddrive these little things are nice wish I would >have bought 2 now these things come in real handy. >anything special I should know about these things. >anyone ever use these before..?? >have and comments good or bad about them ..??problems..?? >Charles & Melinda McDaniel From cph Thu Feb 10 02:51:36 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA11474 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:51:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22584; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22297; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22244; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:50 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p14.hwts18.loop.net [207.211.63.107]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA30383; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:47:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200002100747.XAA30383@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "charles" Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:42:31 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: thinkpad 750 hd List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 08 Feb 2000 17:34:27 -0500, charles wrote: >hello > >thanks to all that were kind enough to give me some advice and information concerning linux and thinkpad 750 possibilities. > >it seems that the main obstacle here is the small hard drive that is standard for the 750c > >does anyone know which IBM hard drives are 750c compatible? >perhaps i can get a bigger hard drive, but which one and which size. > The biggest I've got to successfully work on my TP750 is a 3.2GB drive meant for a 760 - I think the drive itself is a DYKA-23240 if my memory serves me right. Pretty reliable drive, considering the system is on 24/7. When I get another machine to replace it (a 750C), I'll try a 5GB drive, and see how that works (with NT4, currently using OS/2 Warp Connect on it now). Paul From cph Thu Feb 10 02:51:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA11478 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:51:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22618; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:50:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22184; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22157; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:44 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p14.hwts18.loop.net [207.211.63.107]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA30370; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:47:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200002100747.XAA30370@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "rudolph wratten" , "Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:36:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Think 701C/CS List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:31:50 -0600, rudolph wratten wrote: >Hello. > >Tried a 64 meg SO-DIMM. >speed 60, wait state 4, non-parity,. >It takes a thinkpad a while to count to 72 megs. >So far, no problems. I will see how battery life is, >if it hangs, that type of thing. It has not done much >to improve Win 95 over 40 megs. Win 98 users >May see more of a boost. Wow, didn't know they even had 64MB SO-DIMMS. Then again, I've been hanging around on other lists, so I haven't really kept up. How much are they typically going for now? From cph Thu Feb 10 02:51:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA11482 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:51:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22592; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22236; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22198; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:47 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p14.hwts18.loop.net [207.211.63.107]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA30378; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:47:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200002100747.XAA30378@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" , "thinkpad" Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:39:45 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ibm harddrive won't fit in 755cx List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:00:41 -0600, Charles & Melinda McDaniel wrote: >I was in Dallas at a computer show and I bought a IBM Laptop harddrive for >my TP755cx. >The harddrive Model number is DPRA 21215 -1.215 gigabyte. it won't fit the >pins for the connector are straight out mine go down into a connector I have >a 540 Mb (original) harddrive for mine. Is this a caddy that I can remove or >do I need another caddy... and where and how much for one..??? >any help out there anyone..?? >Charles & Melinda McDaniel You'll need another caddy, as this sounds like the drive itself (which is just a standard 2.5" IDE). Also, I'm a little curious, how much did you pay for that particular drive? Paul From cph Thu Feb 10 02:51:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA11486 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:51:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22588; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22185; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22158; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:49:44 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p14.hwts18.loop.net [207.211.63.107]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA30375 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:47:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200002100747.XAA30375@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:38:17 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RCA Input cable for 760ED? List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know of a good cheap way of bringing in a composite (RCA) video signal to the 760ED, just to display on screen (such as video capturing or to hookup to a VCR, etc)? I have a TV card on my desktop, but obviously I can't take it with me... =( Paul From cph Thu Feb 10 04:11:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA11693 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:11:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29370; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:10:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:09:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29223; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:09:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from tumlis.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA28959; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:05:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from tumlis.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (129.187.155.98 -> tumlis.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:05:36 -0500 Received: from venus (venus.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de) by tumlis.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id AA12152 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:08:03 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000210100733.0091a9b0@tumlis> X-Sender: georg@tumlis X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:07:33 +0100 To: From: Georg Diebel Subject: TP770: BIOS beep codes? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi everyone, my TP770 behaved strangely yesterday: When switching it on after 2 or 3 days "off-time" (it was shut down completely and the battery was at 100%) it showed first the amount of memory (as usual) and two 3-digit numbers (went away too fast to write them down), beeped and showed "Error". I then came to the date/time adjust screen and I corrected the date (was one day ahead); then the thinkpad booted (after beeping 2 times in an unfamiliar fashion). Later, I again had to reboot it - and again, two unfamiliar beeps at the start (not booting Win98 yet, under BIOS control); otherwise, it booted as usual. Does anyone know what that means? Is there a BIOS battery going bad or so? Or could it have to do with a 3Com-PCMCIA-card which I have removed (only physically, not in the setup) and the BIOS wants to find? Thanks for any hint, Georg. -- Georg Diebel, Inst. for Integrated Circuits, Technical University of Munich Mailto:G_Diebel@lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de Phone: 0049-89-289-28578 Homepage: http://www.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de/people/gd.html From cph Thu Feb 10 05:01:15 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA11878 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:01:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01042; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:52:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:52:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00967; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:52:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00954; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:52:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:52:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA77313 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:52:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 01:52:08 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Question on TP770Z 95498AU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Greetings everyone, I have a question on the 770Z 95498AU with the 13.7" screen. I just noticed that the 1280x1024 resolution only has 32k colors and not 32 bit. I always thought 8 meg of ram on the video can do more colors than that? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Thu Feb 10 05:59:26 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA12035 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:59:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08366; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:58:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:57:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08289; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:57:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08274; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:57:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.38 -> finch-post-10.mail.demon.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:57:17 -0500 Received: from moab.demon.co.uk ([158.152.127.170]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12IrHe-0008al-0A for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:57:15 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:56:18 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Greg Terrell Subject: Re: TP770: BIOS beep codes? References: <3.0.6.32.20000210100733.0091a9b0@tumlis> In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000210100733.0091a9b0@tumlis> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U List-Unsubscribe: Georg >my TP770 behaved strangely yesterday: > >When switching it on after 2 or 3 days "off-time" (it was shut down >completely and the battery was at 100%) it showed first the amount of >memory (as usual) and two 3-digit numbers (went away too fast to write them >down), beeped and showed "Error". > I can't help with this. >I then came to the date/time adjust screen and I corrected the date (was >one day ahead); then the thinkpad booted (after beeping 2 times in an >unfamiliar fashion). > >Later, I again had to reboot it - and again, two unfamiliar beeps at the >start (not booting Win98 yet, under BIOS control); otherwise, it booted as >usual. The 2 beeps seems to be "normal" after a configuration change using either ThinkPad Configuration or Device Manager. My TP770 always beeps twice on reboot after a configuration change and then reboots itself OK. Others in this group have commented on this "feature". > >Does anyone know what that means? Is there a BIOS battery going bad or so? I don't know. >Or could it have to do with a 3Com-PCMCIA-card which I have removed (only >physically, not in the setup) and the BIOS wants to find? I have not noticed this happening after removing PC cards. -- Greg Terrell From cph Thu Feb 10 06:30:36 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA12352 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:30:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09982; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:29:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:29:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09899; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA09889; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:29:03 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.40 -> imo-d08.mx.aol.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:29:04 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id m.bc.131af54 (4566); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:28:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:28:55 EST Subject: Re: picked up a nice little gadget To: cmcdaniel@cableone.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 44 List-Unsubscribe: In a message dated 2/10/2000 12:09:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, cmcdaniel@cableone.net writes: > I went to First sat. in Dallas last weekend and found a New in the box > Maxtor 131 Mb Pcmcia harddrive these little things are nice wish I > would have bought 2 now these things come in real handy. > anything special I should know about these things. > anyone ever use these before..?? > have and comments good or bad about them ..??problems..?? I've been using PCMCIA Hard Drive for backing up and transferring large files for a couple years. I have had several different sizes made by different manufacturers. No problems. Most were made by Integral Peripherals who have gone out of business You can get some really great deals on these at Ebay: (All one link) http://search.ebay.com/cgi-bin/texis/ebay/result s.html?dest=&cobrandpartner=x&tc=&ht=1&st=&textonly=n&query=pcmcia+hard+drive& allebay=1&ebayregioncode=39&SortProperty=MetaEndSort I recently bought a CullunaCard 520MB for less than $150. They sell retail for $399. I suspect these are being cleared out since several of the newer laptops don't offer a Type III PCMCIA slot anymore. That said, a Type II to III adapter can be purchased at: http://www.gryst one.com/site/products/ta50.html Using this Greystone Peripherals adapter I can run my PCMCIA hard drives and PC modem simultaneously. Regards ... John From cph Thu Feb 10 07:44:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA12511 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 07:44:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA13008; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 07:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 07:38:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12900; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 07:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.cableone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12882; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 07:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.cableone.net (24.116.0.51 -> mail1.cableone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 07:38:55 -0500 Received: from thinkpad ([24.116.4.168]) by mail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:38:51 -0700 Message-ID: <004301bf73c3$aaedee80$0200a8c0@thinkpad> Reply-To: "Charles McDaniel" From: "Charles McDaniel" To: "thinkpad" Subject: Fw: picked up a nice little gadget Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:37:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: From: "Charles McDaniel" To: Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 6:31 AM Subject: Re: picked up a nice little gadget > so then 30.00 wasn't to much then..? > Charles McDaniel > > 1971 Firebird > 1977 Trans Am > 1992 Ford (ugh) Mustang LX Convertable 5.0 > > written on a IBM TP 755cx old but usable > fav quote: Somewhere in the Darkness.. > Fav Quake quote:don't worry about it EVERYONE dies sooner or later.. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 5:28 AM > Subject: Re: picked up a nice little gadget > > > > In a message dated 2/10/2000 12:09:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > cmcdaniel@cableone.net writes: > > > > > I went to First sat. in Dallas last weekend and found a New in the box > > > Maxtor 131 Mb Pcmcia harddrive these little things are nice wish I > > > would have bought 2 now these things come in real handy. > > > anything special I should know about these things. > > > anyone ever use these before..?? > > > have and comments good or bad about them ..??problems..?? > > > > I've been using PCMCIA Hard Drive for backing up and transferring > > large files for a couple years. I have had several different sizes made > > by different manufacturers. No problems. Most were made by > > Integral Peripherals who have gone out of business > > > > You can get some really great deals on these at Ebay: > > > > (All one link) > > > > HREF="http://search.ebay.com/cgi-bin/texis/ebay/results.html?dest=&cobrandpa > rt > > > ner=x&tc=&ht=1&st=&textonly=n&query=pcmcia+hard+drive&allebay=1&ebayregionco > de > > > =39&SortProperty=MetaEndSort">http://search.ebay.com/cgi-bin/texis/ebay/resu > lt > > > s.html?dest=&cobrandpartner=x&tc=&ht=1&st=&textonly=n&query=pcmcia+hard+driv > e& > > allebay=1&ebayregioncode=39&SortProperty=MetaEndSort > > > > I recently bought a CullunaCard 520MB for less than $150. > > They sell retail for $399. > > > > I suspect these are being cleared out since several of the > > newer laptops don't offer a Type III PCMCIA slot anymore. > > That said, a Type II to III adapter can be purchased at: > > > > http://www.gryst > > one.com/site/products/ta50.html > > > > Using this Greystone Peripherals adapter I can run my > > PCMCIA hard drives and PC modem simultaneously. > > > > Regards ... John > From cph Thu Feb 10 09:53:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA13250 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:53:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21441; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:50:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21331; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:50:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgw2.br.ibm.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21308; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:50:37 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mailgw2.br.ibm.com (32.94.253.178 -> igw2.br.ibm.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:50:38 -0500 Received: from mailhub3.br.ibm.com (mailhub3.br.ibm.com [9.179.100.120]) by mailgw2.br.ibm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA165772 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:50:31 -0200 Received: from d24mta10.br.ibm.com (d24mta10.br.ibm.com [9.179.100.111]) by mailhub3.br.ibm.com (8.8.8m2/NCO v2.06) with SMTP id MAA27010 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:50:30 -0200 Received: by d24mta10.br.ibm.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 03256881.005703C7 ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:50:26 -0300 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMEC@IBMVE@IBMBR To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <03256881.0054D9F3.00@d24mta10.br.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:15:49 -0500 Subject: SUBSCRIBE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id JAA13251 HI, my name is Gonzalo Jiménez, i am really interesting in any information you can provide me about Linux. Also i need information and instruction to install Red Hat in my Thinkpad 760 xd model 9546-s9e. Thanks in advance Gonzalo From cph Thu Feb 10 14:46:10 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA15628 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:46:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15800; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:44:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:42:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15540; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:42:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15526; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:42:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.37 -> mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:42:48 -0500 Received: from kaste ([12.75.199.80]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000210194245.MCLP26879@kaste> for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:42:45 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01bf73fe$8c052ca0$0124fea9@kaste> Reply-To: "Kaste" From: "Kaste" To: "thinkpad" References: <004301bf73c3$aaedee80$0200a8c0@thinkpad> Subject: Re: picked up a nice little gadget Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:39:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: I got a 340mb pcmcia hard drive for only $65. That is a great purchase to all you TP 730 owners out there.. Garrett ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles McDaniel To: thinkpad Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 7:37 AM Subject: Fw: picked up a nice little gadget > > From: "Charles McDaniel" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 6:31 AM > Subject: Re: picked up a nice little gadget > > > > so then 30.00 wasn't to much then..? > > Charles McDaniel > > > > 1971 Firebird > > 1977 Trans Am > > 1992 Ford (ugh) Mustang LX Convertable 5.0 > > > > written on a IBM TP 755cx old but usable > > fav quote: Somewhere in the Darkness.. > > Fav Quake quote:don't worry about it EVERYONE dies sooner or later.. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Cc: > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 5:28 AM > > Subject: Re: picked up a nice little gadget > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/10/2000 12:09:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > > cmcdaniel@cableone.net writes: > > > > > > > I went to First sat. in Dallas last weekend and found a New in the box > > > > Maxtor 131 Mb Pcmcia harddrive these little things are nice wish I > > > > would have bought 2 now these things come in real handy. > > > > anything special I should know about these things. > > > > anyone ever use these before..?? > > > > have and comments good or bad about them ..??problems..?? > > > > > > I've been using PCMCIA Hard Drive for backing up and transferring > > > large files for a couple years. I have had several different sizes made > > > by different manufacturers. No problems. Most were made by > > > Integral Peripherals who have gone out of business > > > > > > You can get some really great deals on these at Ebay: > > > > > > (All one link) > > > > > > > > HREF="http://search.ebay.com/cgi-bin/texis/ebay/results.html?dest=&cobrandpa > > rt > > > > > > ner=x&tc=&ht=1&st=&textonly=n&query=pcmcia+hard+drive&allebay=1&ebayregionco > > de > > > > > > =39&SortProperty=MetaEndSort">http://search.ebay.com/cgi-bin/texis/ebay/resu > > lt > > > > > > s.html?dest=&cobrandpartner=x&tc=&ht=1&st=&textonly=n&query=pcmcia+hard+driv > > e& > > > allebay=1&ebayregioncode=39&SortProperty=MetaEndSort > > > > > > I recently bought a CullunaCard 520MB for less than $150. > > > They sell retail for $399. > > > > > > I suspect these are being cleared out since several of the > > > newer laptops don't offer a Type III PCMCIA slot anymore. > > > That said, a Type II to III adapter can be purchased at: > > > > > > http://www.gryst > > > one.com/site/products/ta50.html > > > > > > Using this Greystone Peripherals adapter I can run my > > > PCMCIA hard drives and PC modem simultaneously. > > > > > > Regards ... John > > > From cph Thu Feb 10 15:38:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA16271 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:38:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20311; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:36:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20223; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:36:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0w.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20208; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:36:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0w.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.52 -> www0w.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:36:32 -0500 Received: (qmail 28613 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Feb 2000 20:36:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20000210203623.28612.qmail@www0w.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.52 by www0w for [205.144.113.2] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Thu Feb 10 20:36:23 GMT 2000 Date: 10 Feb 00 14:36:23 CST From: Rob Bell To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: PCMCIA drive/microdrive [was RE: picked up a nice little gadget] X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id PAA16272 Not quite Thinkpad-specific, but - while we're on the topic... Does anyone know of a good place to get the IBM microdrive in CompactFlash (CF) format for good price? I'd love to get that 340MB one for my digital camera. Thanks, Rob "Kaste" wrote: > I got a 340mb pcmcia hard drive for only $65. That is a great purchase to > all you TP 730 owners out there.. > Garrett > ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Thu Feb 10 16:42:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA16948 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:42:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27400; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:39:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:35:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26923; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26910; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:35:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (209.185.241.128 -> f128.law3.hotmail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:35:26 -0500 Received: (qmail 95297 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2000 21:35:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20000210213525.95296.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 210.55.237.83 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:35:25 PST X-Originating-IP: [210.55.237.83] Reply-To: chickensfree@geocities.com From: "Jake Holmen" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Gonzalo - Linux. Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:35:25 AZT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id QAA27400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id QAA16949 Gonzalo, check out the linux-thinkpad mailing list. It is quite good, people actually answer your questions with useful tips and how to's The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://www.bm-soft.com/~bm/tp_mailing.html Also - I've installed Linux on a 760CD check out www.geocities.com/chickensfree/ It's not that good, but any help that you need, just email me, I'd be very glad to help. Regards, Jake. From: To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: SUBSCRIBE Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:15:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <03256881.0054D9F3.00@d24mta10.br.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI, my name is Gonzalo Jiménez, i am really interesting in any information you can provide me about Linux. Also i need information and instruction to install Red Hat in my Thinkpad 760 xd model 9546-s9e. Thanks in advance Gonzalo ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph Thu Feb 10 17:22:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA17381 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:22:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00755; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:20:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:19:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00648; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:19:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00626; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:19:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.20 -> fb02.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:19:44 -0500 Received: from user-38lc4i2.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lc4i2.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.18.66]) by fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA04122 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:19:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002102219.RAA04122@fb02.eng00.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:18:21 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <001401bf7386$4dd6d500$0c8f6420@oscar> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Think 701C/CS List-Unsubscribe: I thought writing to uncached memory was always faster than writing to a disk swapper file? On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 22:18:30 -0700, Tom Franklin wrote: >Before everyone runs out and upgrades to 72 Megs, you better be sure that >all the extra memory is cached. Adding memory that is not cached can >actually slow down your machine under certain circumstances. > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > Tried a 64 meg SO-DIMM. >> > speed 60, wait state 4, non-parity,. >> > It takes a thinkpad a while to count to 72 megs. >> > So far, no problems. I will see how battery life is, >> > if it hangs, that type of thing. It has not done much >> > to improve Win 95 over 40 megs. Win 98 users >> > May see more of a boost. > From cph Thu Feb 10 17:51:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA17704 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:51:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03372; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:49:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:48:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03196; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ssiam921.softwarespectrum.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03182; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ssiam921.softwarespectrum.com (192.152.152.2 -> sunfire.swspectrum.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:48:51 -0500 Received: by SSIAM921 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1FGHSBN3>; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:48:46 -0600 Message-ID: <6DB879346436D21198C500A0C9E1E123E49CA3@ssiwgn03.swspectrum.co.nz> From: Nathan Mercer To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Win2K & 770ED Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:54:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I'm running Win2K Pro and Server on my 770ED PII-266 with 196Mb with no issues related to hardware etc. I haven't tried the DVD hardware decoder out yet, but IBM posted drivers for it on their web site a few weeks back. Just make sure you've the latest BIOS before installing Win2K Regards Nathan > -----Original Message----- > From: Netadmin [mailto:snfettig.netadmin@hillsdale.edu] > Sent: Thursday, 10 February 2000 3:10 p.m. > To: Thinkpad List (E-mail) > Subject: Win2K & 770ED > > > Hi all, > I haven't been paying attention to the list for some > time and realize > this issue has been covered a few times already, but I wanted > to ask the > quick question of whether Win2K works well (that is, no worse > than Win98) on > a 770ED. I am currently running WinNT and am happy with it > other than the > fact that I need USB support now. Since I cannot find a way > to use USB on > the 770 w/ NT, I am possibly turning to Win2K for a more > workstation style > platform that I use in the office... Any suggestions, ideas > - or - a way to > use USB w/ NT??? > > Thanks much! > SNF > > snfettig@hillsdale.edu > From cph Thu Feb 10 17:58:55 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA17772 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:58:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03931; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:57:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:56:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03847; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:56:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from server2.snelnet.nl (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03833; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:56:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from server2.snelnet.nl (192.87.106.106 -> server2.snelnet.nl) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:56:55 -0500 Received: from netlinq.nl (adsl-145-99-66-109.snelnet.nl [145.99.66.109]) by server2.snelnet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA10466; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:59:16 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38A34298.29871734@netlinq.nl> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:58:32 +0100 From: Jeroen Elfferich Organization: http://www.netlinq.nl/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List CC: Vincent Poy Subject: Re: Question on TP770Z 95498AU References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: This is something that I've been wondering about too. My 770X also does not go beyond 16 bits (65K colors, actually). I've been told that LCD panels are not precise enough to display more than about 18 bits color depth (262K colors) anyway, so you may find comfort in this. Jeroen Vincent Poy wrote: > > Greetings everyone, > > I have a question on the 770Z 95498AU with the 13.7" screen. I > just noticed that the 1280x1024 resolution only has 32k colors and not 32 > bit. I always thought 8 meg of ram on the video can do more colors than > that? > > Cheers, > Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From cph Thu Feb 10 19:13:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA18327 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:13:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08447; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:10:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:09:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08308; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:09:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08286; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:09:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:09:03 -0500 Received: from tp466 ([12.79.38.112]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000210233822.QFVF1419@tp466>; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:38:22 +0000 Message-ID: <007701bf7420$0439de20$70264f0c@tp466> From: "Jim Biggerstaff" To: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" , "thinkpad" References: <003d01bf7385$06d61040$17047418@defiant> Subject: Re: picked up a nice little gadget Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:39:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: On some of the older Thinkpads (not so sure of newer models) you can set the PCMCIA drive as the boot drive, very handy indeed. I have several of the IBM 105 MB drives and they work quite well. ----- Original Message ----- > I went to First sat. in Dallas last weekend and found a New in the box > Maxtor 131 Mb Pcmcia harddrive > have and comments good or bad about them ..??problems..?? From cph Thu Feb 10 20:29:00 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA18813 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:29:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13256; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:27:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:26:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13148; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:26:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.cableone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13134; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:26:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.cableone.net (24.116.0.57 -> mail3.cableone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:26:10 -0500 Received: from defiant ([24.116.4.116]) by mail3.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:26:07 -0700 Message-ID: <002901bf742e$f4b232e0$74047418@defiant> Reply-To: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" From: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" To: "thinkpad" , "Rob Bell" References: <20000210203623.28612.qmail@www0w.netaddress.usa.net> Subject: Re: PCMCIA drive/microdrive [was RE: picked up a nice little gadget] Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:25:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: E-bay had some a few days ago. might check and see if there are any left..but after all the trouble yahoo and ebay has had in the past few days...who knows.. took 30 mins. and about a dozen tries to check my e-mail account there tonight.. Charles & Melinda McDaniel Charles' E-Mail CMcDaniel@cableone.net Melinda's E-Mail SMcDaniel@cableone.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Bell" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 2:36 PM Subject: PCMCIA drive/microdrive [was RE: picked up a nice little gadget] Not quite Thinkpad-specific, but - while we're on the topic... Does anyone know of a good place to get the IBM microdrive in CompactFlash (CF) format for good price? I'd love to get that 340MB one for my digital camera. Thanks, Rob "Kaste" wrote: > I got a 340mb pcmcia hard drive for only $65. That is a great purchase to > all you TP 730 owners out there.. > Garrett > ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Thu Feb 10 21:50:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA19309 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:50:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17428; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:47:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:47:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17314; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0n.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17300; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:47:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0n.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.43 -> www0n.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:47:02 -0500 Received: (qmail 14285 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Feb 2000 02:46:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20000211024657.14284.qmail@www0n.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.43 by www0n for [63.74.90.125] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Fri Feb 11 02:46:57 GMT 2000 Date: 10 Feb 00 21:46:57 EST From: Stephen Remenyi To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701c and Keyboard problems X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id VAA19310 Some of the keys on my TP701c don't seem to operate smoothly when depressed at a slight angle. The keys in question work pretty well when pressed straight down. But as soon as they are hit at an angle, there is some sort of drag that causes missed keystrokes. In other words, it's difficult to touch type with those keys. My machine is the result of combining the best parts of two machines, and this has the better of the two keyboards. Question. Are any of you experienced with this type of keyboard (key) behavior? Is this the result of design, or the result of age, dirt, wear, etc.? Any suggestions? Steve ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Thu Feb 10 22:42:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA19645 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:42:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20249; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:39:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:39:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20128; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:39:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20111; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.34 -> out4.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:39:13 -0500 Received: from oscar ([32.101.226.70]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <200002110339112390260kfne>; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:39:12 +0000 Message-ID: <002f01bf7441$0a5fa5c0$46e26520@oscar> Reply-To: "Tom Franklin" From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Allan Ballard" , "ThinkPad List" References: <200002102219.RAA04122@fb02.eng00.mindspring.net> Subject: Re: Think 701C/CS Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:35:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: That is why I said "under certain circumstances". For example, say you have 40 MB in 701 and run Win95 with only one application running at a time. You probably don't swap much. Going to 72 MB where the upper half is uncached could be slower. Esp. since Windows loads the uncached area first since it is usually at the top of memory. ----- Original Message ----- > I thought writing to uncached memory was always > faster than writing to a disk swapper file? > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 22:18:30 -0700, Tom Franklin wrote: > >Before everyone runs out and upgrades to 72 Megs, you better be sure that > >all the extra memory is cached. Adding memory that is not cached can > >actually slow down your machine under certain circumstances. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > Tried a 64 meg SO-DIMM. > >> > speed 60, wait state 4, non-parity,. > >> > It takes a thinkpad a while to count to 72 megs. > >> > So far, no problems. I will see how battery life is, > >> > if it hangs, that type of thing. It has not done much > >> > to improve Win 95 over 40 megs. Win 98 users > >> > May see more of a boost. > > > > > From cph Fri Feb 11 01:48:09 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA20711 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:48:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28685; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:46:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:45:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28437; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:45:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA28424; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.tdl.com (206.180.224.3 -> tdl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:45:40 -0500 Received: from chuck (pm1i-215.tdl.com [206.180.234.215]) by tdl.tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA21385 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:45:30 -0800 Message-Id: <200002110645.WAA21385@tdl.tdl.com> From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:45:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: FAT32, hibernation, Win98 & 380ED Reply-to: cblaisd@tdl.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) List-Unsubscribe: Anyone know whether hibernation will still be possible on a Win98 380ED if I convert to FAT32? I've perused the faqs on the IBM site and just am not sure from them what's what. TIA From cph Fri Feb 11 02:37:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA20920 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:37:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00540; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:36:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00439; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:36:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00426; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (198.36.160.1 -> ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:36:01 -0500 Received: (qmail 24092 invoked by alias); 11 Feb 2000 07:35:59 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 24070 invoked by uid 0); 11 Feb 2000 07:35:58 -0000 Received: from dialupg234.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (207.225.87.234) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 11 Feb 2000 07:35:58 -0000 Message-ID: <38A3BBE6.F27C487D@uswest.net> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:36:06 -0800 From: Patrick West Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: on switch on 560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: folks, My daughter's machine, a 560, is having trouble turning on. We have to push the switch several times to get it to start. I assume the switch it getting old. Anyone have any idea how hard or easy it is to replace? From cph Fri Feb 11 02:41:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA20938 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:41:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00822; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:40:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00742; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:40:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00726; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:40:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (129.59.1.212 -> mailer2.mail.Vanderbilt.Edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:40:17 -0500 Received: from lruby (A061018.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.61.18]) by mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/VU-3.0.2) with SMTP id BAA12076 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:40:14 -0600 (CST) From: "Ruby Lestari" To: Subject: Help again please.... Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:35:42 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <38A3BBE6.F27C487D@uswest.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Ok now, I purchased the AC adaptor and a new battery already. However, I believe the problem still doesn't go away. My laptop is still draining the power out >from my battery pack even though the computer is plugged in. What should I do...?? Should I send in for a check-in..? And does anybody know a number I should call to..?? Please advise. Thanks. In Dharma, Ruby Lestari Department of Mechanical Engineering School of Engineering - Vanderbilt University --------------------------------------------- This message transmitted using 100% recycled electrons. -----Original Message----- From: os2support@theriver.com [mailto:os2support@theriver.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 9:50 AM To: Ruby Lestari Subject: Re: Urgent...Please help...!! In , on 01/24/00 at 02:12 AM, "Ruby Lestari" said: >Just lately my computer starts to behave weirdly... >With an adapter plugs in, the battery seems to be drain out by >itself. And after that, at 0% the computer went dead for a while. >Then if I move it somewhere else or try to play around with the >cable, it will start charging again. >What's happening here..?? >Has anybody had any experience like this..?? Yes, but not like yours. My adaptor would not work at all. I unplugged the power cord and the pins were broken. Luckily, my system was under warrenty and IBM EZ-Serve replaced it without question. In your case, it appears as if the problem is with the cable between the adaptor and the plug in the back of the computer. After a long time they will go bad as the cable is "flexed" and the internal conductors break. You have two options, one replace the cable with a heavier duty one. Two, replace the adaptor. If the computer is still under warrenty, you technically have one option and that is to call IBM repair and get a new adaptor, which is what I did when my adaptor's power plug broke >Is it because of old battery or faulty adaptor..?? Definately a faulty adaptor. Defective/old batteries will not charge in most cases. James -- -------------------------------------------- James Mckenzie, Team OS/2, Team Lora Still supporting OS/2 from version 2.0 NEW ADDRESS: os2support@theriver.com New rates for unsolicited e-mails: Any unsolicited e-mails will be charged $3000/KB, $5000 min. -------------------------------------------- >Just lately my computer starts to behave weirdly... >With an adapter plugs in, the battery seems to be drain out by itself. And >after that, at 0% the computer went dead for a while. Then if I move it >somewhere else or try to play around with the cable, it will start charging >again. >What's happening here..?? >Has anybody had any experience like this..?? >Is it because of old battery or faulty adaptor..?? >Btw, I have a ThinkPad 760ED. >Please advise. >Thanks. > > >In Dharma, >Ruby Lestari >Department of Mechanical Engineering >School of Engineering - Vanderbilt University >--------------------------------------------- > > From cph Fri Feb 11 03:11:47 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA21054 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:11:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02683; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:10:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:09:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02490; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from srvr20.engin.umich.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02477; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from srvr20.engin.umich.edu (141.213.75.22 -> srvr20.engin.umich.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:09:51 -0500 Received: from blue.engin.umich.edu (root@blue.engin.umich.edu [141.213.74.25]) by srvr20.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA07557 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:09:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (arteitle@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blue.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA21283 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:09:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:09:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701c and Keyboard problems In-Reply-To: <20000211024657.14284.qmail@www0n.netaddress.usa.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On 10 Feb 2000, Stephen Remenyi wrote: > Some of the keys on my TP701c don't seem to operate smoothly when depressed at > a slight angle. The keys in question work pretty well when pressed straight > down. But as soon as they are hit at an angle, there is some sort of drag that > causes missed keystrokes. In other words, it's difficult to touch type with > those keys. My machine is the result of combining the best parts of two > machines, and this has the better of the two keyboards. > > Question. Are any of you experienced with this type of keyboard (key) > behavior? Is this the result of design, or the result of age, dirt, wear, > etc.? Any suggestions? > > Steve When I got my (very used) 701C, it had the same problem: sticky keys. My solution was to pop off each of the keycaps and put a drop of oil (actually, some kind of pink-colored synthetic bicycle lubricant I had laying around) on the back posts of each of the keycaps. Unfortunately, someone else managed to drop one of the keycaps on the floor and I stepped on it, breaking off the post, so now my 'R' key is a bit wobbly... Anyway, it wasn't a perfect fix, but the keyboard definitely works more smoothly now than it did before. Aaron Teitlebaum arteitle@engin.umich.edu From cph Fri Feb 11 04:43:17 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA21464 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:43:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10217; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:41:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10095; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10062; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:39:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.20 -> fb02.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:39:55 -0500 Received: from user-38lc904.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lc904.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.36.4]) by fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA12859; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:39:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002110939.EAA12859@fb02.eng00.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Tom Franklin" Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:38:16 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <002f01bf7441$0a5fa5c0$46e26520@oscar> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Think 701C/CS List-Unsubscribe: Ok, thanks. That makes sense. My 760xl has 104Mb,half of which is uncached. I keep meaning to do some tests comparing it to 64Mb but it's too much bother. At any rate, I run a lo of stuff atonce. Allan Ballrd On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:35:27 -0700, Tom Franklin wrote: >That is why I said "under certain circumstances". > >For example, say you have 40 MB in 701 and run Win95 with only one >application running at a time. You probably don't swap much. Going to 72 >MB where the upper half is uncached could be slower. Esp. since Windows >loads the uncached area first since it is usually at the top of memory. > > >----- Original Message ----- >> I thought writing to uncached memory was always >> faster than writing to a disk swapper file? >> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 22:18:30 -0700, Tom Franklin wrote: >> >Before everyone runs out and upgrades to 72 Megs, you better be sure that >> >all the extra memory is cached. Adding memory that is not cached can >> >actually slow down your machine under certain circumstances. >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > Tried a 64 meg SO-DIMM. >> >> > speed 60, wait state 4, non-parity,. >> >> > It takes a thinkpad a while to count to 72 megs. >> >> > So far, no problems. I will see how battery life is, >> >> > if it hangs, that type of thing. It has not done much >> >> > to improve Win 95 over 40 megs. Win 98 users >> >> > May see more of a boost. >> > >> >> >> > From cph Fri Feb 11 05:02:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id FAA21502 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 05:02:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11200; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 05:01:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 05:01:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11123; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 05:01:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11109; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 05:01:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.20 -> fb02.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 05:01:32 -0500 Received: from user-38lc904.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lc904.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.36.4]) by fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA29538; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:40:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002110940.EAA29538@fb02.eng00.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "cblaisd@tdl.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:38:55 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <200002110645.WAA21385@tdl.tdl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FAT32, hibernation, Win98 & 380ED List-Unsubscribe: It works on Win95 OSR2 using Fat32. On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:45:25 -0800, Chuck Blaisdell wrote: >Anyone know whether hibernation will still be possible on a Win98 >380ED if I convert to FAT32? > >I've perused the faqs on the IBM site and just am not sure from them >what's what. > >TIA > From cph Fri Feb 11 06:40:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA22079 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 06:40:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20543; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 06:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 06:37:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20442; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 06:37:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from pollux.iue.it (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20425; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 06:37:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from pollux.iue.it (149.139.13.251 -> pollux.iue.it) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 06:37:15 -0500 Received: from iue.it (pc3525.iue.it [149.139.6.5]) by pollux.iue.it (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA15693 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:38:03 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38A3F46D.174F6443@iue.it> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:37:17 +0100 From: Peter Wennersten X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: how do I recover when CDrom cannot be accessed? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I would be incredibly grateful for help or tips on this matter. WIN98 on my 570 is really corrupt (I hope it's the system rather than the hardware). Not just the average 3-4 crashes a week (in the beginning it only crashed when surfing the web, which led to freezing and strange behaviour on the screen - but no error messages) but it now crashes so often that I can't use the computer. Virtully all applications (simple ones like notepad and explorer) crash now. I've gotten all different kinds of errormessages saying that explorer is corrupt or that I should reinstall windows. Most often a dos window pops up and says there was a conflict in VXD (followed by different letters and numbers). I do not understand this VXD-lingo so I have simply decided to try and reinstall the system before deciding whether to send the 570 off to service or not. But my problem is: I can't reinstall the system from the recovery CD. Because my external PCMCIA CDrom is not one of the 3 external CDrom drives supported by the recovery boot diskette to be used with the recovery CD. (How stupid is not this of IBM I must say.) So it appears that I can't use the recovery CD unless I buy a new CDrom player!! I have downloaded the DOS driver for my CDrom drive (Archos MiniCD) and I can get access to the CD drive when booting from an amended start diskette which loads the DOS driver for the CD drive. Inspired by this minor succes, I have tried amending the recovery boot diskette in the same way in order to make it load the DOS driver for my CD drive but this does not work. (By amending I mean substituting one or all of the 3 supported CD drivers on the diskette (keeping their original names ) with my CD driver and thus trying to fool the recovery boot program that my CD drive is one of the supported ones). But to no success! The Cd drive starts spinning but does not seem to be able to communicate properly after that. And the system freezes. What do I do now? Is there no way of using the recovery CD without using the recovery boot diskette (I have no internal CD drive). If I could only boot with a regular start diskette and then install WIN 98 from the recovery CD.... is this not possible? I do not necessarily need to recreate the image of my C:, I just want a functioning system. I would be very, actually immensly, grateful for tips on how to reinstall my system under these conditions. Thank you all very much in advance. Peter Wennersten -- Peter Wennersten Researcher at the Dept. of Social & Political Sciences European University Institute From cph Fri Feb 11 08:31:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA22550 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:31:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25678; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:30:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:29:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25533; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:29:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pollux.iue.it (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25513; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:29:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pollux.iue.it (149.139.13.251 -> pollux.iue.it) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:29:29 -0500 Received: from iue.it (pc3610.iue.it [149.139.6.65]) by pollux.iue.it (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA18640 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:29:50 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38A40EA2.70D7A6CC@iue.it> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:29:06 +0100 From: Peter Wennersten X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: same problem - more precise question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi again, In case my previous mail was hard to decipher, a more specific question is the following: Is there a way of including support for my (Archos) PCMCIA CDROM drive on the recovery boot disk? I have the DOS driver needed. Thanks, Peter -- Peter Wennersten Researcher at the Dept. of Social & Political Sciences European University Institute From cph Fri Feb 11 09:16:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA22808 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:16:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29130; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:14:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:14:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29021; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:14:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0x.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29006; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0x.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.53 -> www0x.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:14:35 -0500 Received: (qmail 11642 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Feb 2000 14:14:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20000211141433.11641.qmail@www0x.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.53 by www0x for [205.144.113.2] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Fri Feb 11 14:14:33 GMT 2000 Date: 11 Feb 00 08:14:33 CST From: Rob Bell To: Peter Wennersten , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: how do I recover when CDrom cannot be accessed? X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id JAA22809 Peter, There are several things you can do in this situation. First, you need to decide whether to do a full system restore from the recovery CD or to just get Win98 installed fresh and then add your drivers and apps separately. Obviously, before doing anything suggested here, make a backup of your important data, documents, files, etc. If you choose the full recovery option, try booting with your 'amended' boot disk and then just run the recovery program from the recovery boot disk from DOS (i.e. don't boot the recovery disk). You may have to poke around in the AUTOEXEC.BAT of the recovery disk to find out what to run and possibly add environment settings from its AUTOEXEC.BAT to the one on your CD-capable boot disk. As I haven't done a CD restore to my Thinkpad in a long time, I can't remember exactly how this setup works. If you just want to install Win98 and then add your drivers/apps, there are a couple of ways. If you can get ahold of a regular Win98 install CD, copy the contents to a separate directory on your HD, delete all other directories related to Windows and installed programs, then run the Win98 setup from your HD. Since you have a valid license for Win98, it doesn't matter where you get the install files from. If you can't find a Win98 CD, then maybe you can still get to the Win98 cab files from the recovery CD. I'm not sure what a 570 recovery CD is like - you may find them easily accessible, or they may be compressed into one big data file. If you can't see them in Explorer, use a program like WinZIP to look in any large data files on the recovery CD. If you find the cabs, copy them to your HD and repeat the instructions above (for the Win98 CD). If none of these ideas are feasible, maybe you can find someone else with a 570 CD drive that is supported that would loan it to you for a day? Oh, yeah, one more idea: Can you boot from your PCMCIA CD by putting it first in the boot order in the 570's BIOS? Maybe you can just boot to the recovery CD that way... HTH, Rob ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Fri Feb 11 13:24:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA24946 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:24:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21759; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:23:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:21:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21550; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21532; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:21:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (24.128.1.70 -> ne.mediaone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:21:14 -0500 Received: from Laptop (h008019357f7a.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.150.141]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA13403 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:21:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeffrey Baker" To: Subject: Re: Question on TP770Z 95498AU Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:21:09 -0500 Message-ID: <001301bf74bc$c4e6d8c0$0200a8c0@Laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: When I bought my 770z with the high resolution screen I was told that 16 bit High Color was the maximum the screen would allow, because the rest of its memory was devoted to high detail rendering. I don't believe the eye can discern the difference between 16 and 32 bit color, but it certainly does discern the incredible level of detail afforded by this screen. Best to all -- Jeff From cph Fri Feb 11 13:30:15 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA25010 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:30:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22464; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:29:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:29:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22383; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22369; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:29:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.19 -> mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:29:01 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.12.73]) by mtiwmhc08.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000211182859.MMGZ1659@701c> for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:28:59 +0000 Message-ID: <000201bf74bd$f653ef00$490c4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Think,,,701C/CS Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:08:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello everybody. What I did was to simply look up the part # for a 701, I then asked the people at FRY'S electronics in Dallas, TX for the memory crosses. The lady in components simply crossed it to the entire series. The 32 meg part goes for $60.00. The 64 meg part goes for $ 140.00. I feel the chip has done only a little to improve things in windows 95 for most apps as far as cost to benefit ratio. This, is only my opinion, your mileage may vary. I Am factoring the overall cost of a thinkpad 701C as well at the cost of the part. Again, parts spec. Speed 60, Wait state 4, No parity. This IS a standard, off the shelf part. I will, later in the month, when I gat home. Format a spare harddrive and plop windows 98 on it. This will allow me to compare O.S.s and see what more memory does under a larger "bloated code" O.S. . Has anyone had any problems with the workpad z50's internet explorer acting strange on some web sites?. If so, have you found a fix?. Thanks, and have fun. From cph Fri Feb 11 13:33:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA25093 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:33:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22920; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:31:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:31:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22833; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:31:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22820; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:31:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (24.128.1.70 -> ne.mediaone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:31:04 -0500 Received: from Laptop (h008019357f7a.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.150.141]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA17074 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:31:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeffrey Baker" To: Subject: Question re. hard drive suspend capabilities (770z) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:30:59 -0500 Message-ID: <001401bf74be$24aba460$0200a8c0@Laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I continue to be annoyed by the 14 gig hard drive whine on my 770z, although in the instance of this particular drive it is not noisier than the norm (I'd had 2 others that were replaced because after a few weeks of use they "sounded like a machine shop," in the words of one IBM technician who heard their whine over the phone); I'm a writer, and work in a quiet environment - at least, quiet would be my preference. A friend who owns an "i" model Thinkpad and has similar complaints - he has his on his desk in a psychotherapy office - says he sets his hard drive to turn off after one minute, and that works out pretty well for him. On the 770z configuration, it appears that the best one can do in this regard is have it shut down after 3 minutes - I don't see a custom option below that. Is that the case, or am I missing something? Also, is it hard on the drive to be on and off this way in usage, and are there any other liabilities in using the machine this way? Many thanks for any information -- Jeff From cph Fri Feb 11 15:27:36 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA26131 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:27:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03980; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:26:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:25:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03738; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraab.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAB03701; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:24:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraab.compuserve.com (149.174.206.155 -> ds-img-rel-2.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:24:56 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmraab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.2) id PAA02904 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:24:56 -0500 (EST) Sender: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us Received: from chi-tgn-gur-vty52.as.wcom.net (chi-tgn-gur-vty52.as.wcom.net [216.192.139.52]) by spdmraab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.2) with ESMTP id PAA02878 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:24:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:24:22 -0600 From: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.38e) S/N 514531BD / Personal Reply-To: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15600.000211@falkor.chi.il.us> To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Win98SE Onto 770ED -- Current Best Approach? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello ThinkPad Users, My wife tells me that a box arrived at my house from Bill Morrow. I'm guessing that it's the new hard drive and shell for my 770ED that I ordered from him. That means that I should be ready to generate a drive with Windows 98 Second Edition on it. (BTW, I also want to install Red Hat Linux 6.1 onto this drive.) (Bill, The check's been written and will be mailed tomorrow.) I have Win98SE full edition (from MSDN), Latest Norton 2000 suite, Partition Magic 5, etc., along with (I believe) all of the latest driver and utility downloads from the IBM web site What's the current thinking on best way to get Win98SE installed? Broad brush, it seems to me that two fundamental options are: 1) "Scorched Earth Scheme" - Install Win98SE to drive, telling it to wipe out anything it may find there. Then, install the various utilities and drivers built from my existing floppy factory or (more likely) downloaded from the IBM web site (newer versions). 2) "Incremental Approach" - Install Win95 Preload from recovery CD-ROM. Then, do an upgrade to Win98SE. Before or after the Win98SE upgrade, install utilities and drivers changed since the preload versions. Is there a third approach? Which is better in terms of long term stability of the resulting install? Since I am doing this to a new drive, I can afford a "false start" or two, or to put it aside if it takes longer than I have, and still be able to continue using my system with my current drive. Then, how does the Linux angle enter into this? Should I be installing Linux, first? Probably not, since I think I want Partion Magic's Boot Magic to control the boot, and that won't get installed until after Win98 is. (BTW, chances are also good that I'll need to install an additional bootable option of NT 4 and/or Win2000 at some point.) It would be extra nice if, after all this, I could still play DVD movies. SoftDVD came with the system. (I hope I still can find the country code floppy.) So, the install scheme would ideally take this into account, as well. Thanks much! Ron. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 Comment: Digital signature verifies authorship and unaltered content. iQA/AwUBOKRv6G8pw+2/9pUJEQJaOgCfaCLNpPL5fbxH6GRLypvHxtprPVsAoI68 pcZb7JKahUdeYaGkmr+C6b2l =pWxj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph Fri Feb 11 16:42:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA26854 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:42:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10740; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:37:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10362; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:37:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10333; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:37:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:37:04 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.14.38]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000211213657.EHYC2478@701c> for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 21:36:57 +0000 Message-ID: <001101bf74d8$3851b4e0$260e4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Win 98#2 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:35:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. If you can, use a 2.5 to 3.5 connection, then use something like EZ drive 'microhouse' or something of the like. I would then partition the drive for a " other" O.S.. This will allow the transition to be much easier. I would also consider something like "boot commander", this makes switching O.S.s a snap. Lets not forget the on-the-fly partition utilities that allow one to change partition without distruction of data, but be careful, of you mix O.S.s you will have problems!.This is the 3rd option. One I prefer. From cph Fri Feb 11 17:08:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA27124 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:08:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12669; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:06:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:06:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12585; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:06:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12566; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:06:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:06:31 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.14.201]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000211220629.EUDJ2478@701c> for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:06:29 +0000 Message-ID: <003001bf74dc$5872aa00$260e4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Harddrive recovery/Same ol'story Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:07:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. One trick you can do. If you can access the hard drive with a floppy. F Disk/ Format/s, etc.from the floppy, then make a directory on your har drive, call it ' recover ' or something like that, then simply *.* copy everything from your C.D drive to your C: drive. This will allow you to install/recover from the hard drive itself. If, for some reason, your recover disk needs to format the c: drive, then you will need to partition your harddrive and, in the partition, install the recovery files, but this is rare. The plus side of all this is that if you ever need to add hardware you will never need to use your C.D. as the machine has all the files and "remembers" where it installed from. I hope this is helpful. From cph Sat Feb 12 02:30:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA30475 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:30:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08912; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:26:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08762; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08749; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:26:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:26:41 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-170.gate.net [199.227.20.233]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA31616; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:26:07 -0500 Message-ID: <38A50B20.E49174F@gate.net> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:26:24 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cblaisd@tdl.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: FAT32, hibernation, Win98 & 380ED References: <200002110645.WAA21385@tdl.tdl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: should be Chuck Blaisdell wrote: > Anyone know whether hibernation will still be possible on a Win98 > 380ED if I convert to FAT32? > > I've perused the faqs on the IBM site and just am not sure from them > what's what. > > TIA -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sat Feb 12 02:35:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA30489 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:35:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09241; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:33:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:33:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09146; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09133; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:33:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:33:08 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-170.gate.net [199.227.20.233]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA91722; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:32:40 -0500 Message-ID: <38A50CA9.947B8795@gate.net> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:32:57 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruby Lestari CC: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Help again please.... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Ruby... how fast is the power draining from the battery..?? when..?? machine on, off, suspend or hibernate or all of the foregoing..??? reading the initial problem, it sure sounds like the ac adapter.. BUT, on most, if not all, newer thinkp[ads, the cable between the ac adapter and the thinkpad is a coaxial cable.. less prone to work hardening and breakage.. check your OS and its power management software.. what thinkpad model is it that you have..?? AND, the tel# for ibm support, in the USA, is 800-772-2227, outside the USA, its different for each country.. if you tell me where you are, i'll get the local (more or less) tel # for IBM support.. is our machine still under warranty..??? :-) Ruby Lestari wrote: > Ok now, > I purchased the AC adaptor and a new battery already. However, I believe the > problem still doesn't go away. My laptop is still draining the power out > from my battery pack even though the computer is plugged in. What should I > do...?? > Should I send in for a check-in..? And does anybody know a number I should > call to..?? > Please advise. > Thanks. > > In Dharma, > Ruby Lestari > Department of Mechanical Engineering > School of Engineering - Vanderbilt University > --------------------------------------------- > This message transmitted using 100% recycled electrons. > > -----Original Message----- > From: os2support@theriver.com [mailto:os2support@theriver.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 9:50 AM > To: Ruby Lestari > Subject: Re: Urgent...Please help...!! > > In , on > 01/24/00 > at 02:12 AM, "Ruby Lestari" said: > > >Just lately my computer starts to behave weirdly... > >With an adapter plugs in, the battery seems to be drain out by > >itself. And after that, at 0% the computer went dead for a while. > >Then if I move it somewhere else or try to play around with the > >cable, it will start charging again. > >What's happening here..?? > >Has anybody had any experience like this..?? > > Yes, but not like yours. My adaptor would not work at all. I > unplugged the power cord and the pins were broken. Luckily, my system > was under warrenty and IBM EZ-Serve replaced it without question. In > your case, it appears as if the problem is with the cable between the > adaptor and the plug in the back of the computer. After a long time > they will go bad as the cable is "flexed" and the internal conductors > break. You have two options, one replace the cable with a heavier > duty one. Two, replace the adaptor. If the computer is still under > warrenty, you technically have one option and that is to call IBM > repair and get a new adaptor, which is what I did when my adaptor's > power plug broke > > >Is it because of old battery or faulty adaptor..?? > > Definately a faulty adaptor. Defective/old batteries will not charge > in most cases. > > James > > -- > -------------------------------------------- > James Mckenzie, Team OS/2, Team Lora > Still supporting OS/2 from version 2.0 > NEW ADDRESS: os2support@theriver.com > New rates for unsolicited e-mails: > Any unsolicited e-mails will be charged $3000/KB, $5000 min. > -------------------------------------------- > > >Just lately my computer starts to behave weirdly... > >With an adapter plugs in, the battery seems to be drain out by itself. And > >after that, at 0% the computer went dead for a while. Then if I move it > >somewhere else or try to play around with the cable, it will start charging > >again. > >What's happening here..?? > >Has anybody had any experience like this..?? > >Is it because of old battery or faulty adaptor..?? > >Btw, I have a ThinkPad 760ED. > >Please advise. > >Thanks. > > > > > >In Dharma, > >Ruby Lestari > >Department of Mechanical Engineering > >School of Engineering - Vanderbilt University > >--------------------------------------------- > > > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sat Feb 12 02:39:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA30499 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:39:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09629; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:37:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:37:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09525; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:37:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09512; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:37:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:37:36 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-170.gate.net [199.227.20.233]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA31580; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:37:13 -0500 Message-ID: <38A50DBB.3A92E0A1@gate.net> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:37:31 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: patrickwest@uswest.net CC: "Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: on switch on 560 References: <38A3BBE6.F27C487D@uswest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the "switch" that you move, pushes an internal switch on the planar board.. (if memory serves) some other thinkpads, it "cams" against a switch simarly situated.. in any event, best is to be sure you are operating the switch the full travel.. to repair the internal switch, the planar needs to be removed and the switch itself replaced.. some soldering and a spare part and Viola! its all done.. and hopefully it will cure the problem.. :-) Patrick West wrote: > folks, > > My daughter's machine, a 560, is having trouble turning on. > We have to push the switch several times to get it to > start. I assume the switch it getting old. Anyone have any > idea how hard or easy it is to replace? -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sat Feb 12 02:42:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA30510 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:42:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09902; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:39:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09826; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09813; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:39:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:39:54 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-170.gate.net [199.227.20.233]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA58574; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:39:26 -0500 Message-ID: <38A50E3F.9F4A7E2C@gate.net> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:39:44 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701c and Keyboard problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: IBM recently sold off a huge number of new 701 keyboards.. watch for them to pop up for sale at various sites, i hope.. :-) if lubricating the keys, be very frugal with this oil so as not to get any on the membrane under the keytops.. "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" wrote: > On 10 Feb 2000, Stephen Remenyi wrote: > > > Some of the keys on my TP701c don't seem to operate smoothly when depressed at > > a slight angle. The keys in question work pretty well when pressed straight > > down. But as soon as they are hit at an angle, there is some sort of drag that > > causes missed keystrokes. In other words, it's difficult to touch type with > > those keys. My machine is the result of combining the best parts of two > > machines, and this has the better of the two keyboards. > > > > Question. Are any of you experienced with this type of keyboard (key) > > behavior? Is this the result of design, or the result of age, dirt, wear, > > etc.? Any suggestions? > > > > Steve > > When I got my (very used) 701C, it had the same problem: sticky keys. My > solution was to pop off each of the keycaps and put a drop of oil > (actually, some kind of pink-colored synthetic bicycle lubricant I had > laying around) on the back posts of each of the keycaps. Unfortunately, > someone else managed to drop one of the keycaps on the floor and I stepped > on it, breaking off the post, so now my 'R' key is a bit wobbly... > Anyway, it wasn't a perfect fix, but the keyboard definitely works more > smoothly now than it did before. > > Aaron Teitlebaum > arteitle@engin.umich.edu -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sat Feb 12 02:47:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA30516 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:47:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10456; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:45:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:45:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10300; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:45:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10274; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:44:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:44:56 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-170.gate.net [199.227.20.233]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA34778; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:44:28 -0500 Message-ID: <38A50F6D.E3221D1D@gate.net> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:44:45 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Bell CC: Peter Wennersten , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: how do I recover when CDrom cannot be accessed? References: <20000211141433.11641.qmail@www0x.netaddress.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: ALSO, run a memory test from ez setup... you COULD have bad memory.. and another thing to try is the win98SE emergency recovery diskette.. it has some nice generic CD drivers on it.. or, borrow an ultrabase and a CD drive.. :-) i know, you tried, but i need to suggest it, just to cover all bases.. Rob Bell wrote: > Peter, > > There are several things you can do in this situation. First, you need to > decide whether to do a full system restore from the recovery CD or to just get > Win98 installed fresh and then add your drivers and apps separately. > Obviously, before doing anything suggested here, make a backup of your > important data, documents, files, etc. > > If you choose the full recovery option, try booting with your 'amended' boot > disk and then just run the recovery program from the recovery boot disk from > DOS (i.e. don't boot the recovery disk). You may have to poke around in the > AUTOEXEC.BAT of the recovery disk to find out what to run and possibly add > environment settings from its AUTOEXEC.BAT to the one on your CD-capable boot > disk. As I haven't done a CD restore to my Thinkpad in a long time, I can't > remember exactly how this setup works. > > If you just want to install Win98 and then add your drivers/apps, there are a > couple of ways. If you can get ahold of a regular Win98 install CD, copy the > contents to a separate directory on your HD, delete all other directories > related to Windows and installed programs, then run the Win98 setup from your > HD. Since you have a valid license for Win98, it doesn't matter where you get > the install files from. If you can't find a Win98 CD, then maybe you can > still get to the Win98 cab files from the recovery CD. I'm not sure what a > 570 recovery CD is like - you may find them easily accessible, or they may be > compressed into one big data file. If you can't see them in Explorer, use a > program like WinZIP to look in any large data files on the recovery CD. If > you find the cabs, copy them to your HD and repeat the instructions above (for > the Win98 CD). > > If none of these ideas are feasible, maybe you can find someone else with a > 570 CD drive that is supported that would loan it to you for a day? Oh, yeah, > one more idea: Can you boot from your PCMCIA CD by putting it first in the > boot order in the 570's BIOS? Maybe you can just boot to the recovery CD that > way... > > HTH, > Rob > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sat Feb 12 02:57:00 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA30533 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:57:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11032; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:55:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10909; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10895; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:54:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:54:58 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-170.gate.net [199.227.20.233]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA96902; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:54:30 -0500 Message-ID: <38A511C7.BE2FA726@gate.net> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:54:47 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeffrey Baker CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Question re. hard drive suspend capabilities (770z) References: <001401bf74be$24aba460$0200a8c0@Laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i discussed the benefits of "leave it on 24/7" and "boot up daily and spin down >from time to time" with an engineer from Priam Disk drives in milpitas many many years ago.. the result was it makes little difference.. (heat/cool, landing and taking off, spindle wear when starting, etc., etc.) these days these drives have to be better at landing and taking off with little or no wear to the platters, so, IMO, its still a toss up.. BUT, these days a winchester technology drive is waay cheaper than it was "in those days".. IRT noise.. i JUST got a 14.1gig drive back from a good customer due to noise.. i ran tests and listened, the drive is 100% and not as noisy as the 14.1gig drive on my 770Z.. (i have NOT listened to one of these 25gig drives, but when i was testing some thursday, they sound a bit quieter) the point is: if i return the drive to vendor and they return it to IBM, in 4 to 6 weeks, the same drive may come back, or a drive thats about the same (noise wise) and the 4 to 6 weeks and shipping all over the place has gained nothing.. i recently got some toshiba 12gig drives and in addition to haveing a larger buffer (cache) they run quieter! all drives make some noise, its just that IBM's are a bit worse overall, and some are really loud and some are not bad at all.. i hate to suggest this, but: earplugs anyone..?? :-) Jeffrey Baker wrote: > I continue to be annoyed by the 14 gig hard drive whine on my 770z, although > in the instance of this particular drive it is not noisier than the norm > (I'd had 2 others that were replaced because after a few weeks of use they > "sounded like a machine shop," in the words of one IBM technician who heard > their whine over the phone); I'm a writer, and work in a quiet environment - > at least, quiet would be my preference. A friend who owns an "i" model > Thinkpad and has similar complaints - he has his on his desk in a > psychotherapy office - says he sets his hard drive to turn off after one > minute, and that works out pretty well for him. > > On the 770z configuration, it appears that the best one can do in this > regard is have it shut down after 3 minutes - I don't see a custom option > below that. Is that the case, or am I missing something? Also, is it hard > on the drive to be on and off this way in usage, and are there any other > liabilities in using the machine this way? > > Many thanks for any information -- Jeff -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sat Feb 12 07:27:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA31326 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 07:27:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28889; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 07:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 07:24:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28753; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 07:24:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28740; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 07:24:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (216.32.181.60 -> law2-f60.hotmail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 07:24:38 -0500 Received: (qmail 2215 invoked by uid 0); 12 Feb 2000 12:24:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20000212122437.2214.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.15.93.44 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 04:24:37 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.15.93.44] From: "Rat Boy" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: How do I unsubscribe? Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 04:24:37 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I've have been a memeber of this forum for some time now and have greatly benefited from it and want to thank everyone who participated during that time. Now I need to go through a little life simplification and would like to unsubscribe. How do I unsubscribe from this forum but still leave the door open so I can come back when needed? I have already sent emails in which I placed unsubscribe in both the subject area and into the body of the letter. For some reason that doesn't seem to get me off. I am still receiving messages. Any ideas? Thank You Jimmy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph Sat Feb 12 09:40:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA31673 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:40:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03900; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:38:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:37:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03812; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad1 (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03798; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:37:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad1 (12.79.29.70 -> 70.morristown-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:37:51 -0500 Message-ID: <002a01bf7566$6b1119a0$461d4f0c@thinkpad1> From: "Donald Mak" To: , "Ruby Lestari" Cc: References: <38A50CA9.947B8795@gate.net> Subject: Re: Help again please.... Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:35:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: What happens if you leave the ac adapter plugged in but remove the battery? If the system still operates normally I would think the problem is in the DC card ??? Donald Mak > Ruby Lestari wrote: > > > Ok now, > > I purchased the AC adaptor and a new battery already. However, I believe the > > problem still doesn't go away. My laptop is still draining the power out > > from my battery pack even though the computer is plugged in. What should I > > do...?? > > Should I send in for a check-in..? And does anybody know a number I should > > call to..?? > > Please advise. > > Thanks. > > > > In Dharma, > > Ruby Lestari > > Department of Mechanical Engineering > > School of Engineering - Vanderbilt University > > --------------------------------------------- > > This message transmitted using 100% recycled electrons. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: os2support@theriver.com [mailto:os2support@theriver.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 9:50 AM > > To: Ruby Lestari > > Subject: Re: Urgent...Please help...!! > > > > In , on > > 01/24/00 > > at 02:12 AM, "Ruby Lestari" said: > > > > >Just lately my computer starts to behave weirdly... > > >With an adapter plugs in, the battery seems to be drain out by > > >itself. And after that, at 0% the computer went dead for a while. > > >Then if I move it somewhere else or try to play around with the > > >cable, it will start charging again. > > >What's happening here..?? > > >Has anybody had any experience like this..?? > > > > Yes, but not like yours. My adaptor would not work at all. I > > unplugged the power cord and the pins were broken. Luckily, my system > > was under warrenty and IBM EZ-Serve replaced it without question. In > > your case, it appears as if the problem is with the cable between the > > adaptor and the plug in the back of the computer. After a long time > > they will go bad as the cable is "flexed" and the internal conductors > > break. You have two options, one replace the cable with a heavier > > duty one. Two, replace the adaptor. If the computer is still under > > warrenty, you technically have one option and that is to call IBM > > repair and get a new adaptor, which is what I did when my adaptor's > > power plug broke > > > > >Is it because of old battery or faulty adaptor..?? > > > > Definately a faulty adaptor. Defective/old batteries will not charge > > in most cases. > > > > James > > > > -- > > -------------------------------------------- > > James Mckenzie, Team OS/2, Team Lora > > Still supporting OS/2 from version 2.0 > > NEW ADDRESS: os2support@theriver.com > > New rates for unsolicited e-mails: > > Any unsolicited e-mails will be charged $3000/KB, $5000 min. > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > >Just lately my computer starts to behave weirdly... > > >With an adapter plugs in, the battery seems to be drain out by itself. And > > >after that, at 0% the computer went dead for a while. Then if I move it > > >somewhere else or try to play around with the cable, it will start charging > > >again. > > >What's happening here..?? > > >Has anybody had any experience like this..?? > > >Is it because of old battery or faulty adaptor..?? > > >Btw, I have a ThinkPad 760ED. > > >Please advise. > > >Thanks. > > > > > > > > >In Dharma, > > >Ruby Lestari > > >Department of Mechanical Engineering > > >School of Engineering - Vanderbilt University > > >--------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net > > > From cph Sat Feb 12 12:07:14 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA32173 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:07:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09377; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:05:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:04:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09281; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:04:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09267; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (206.184.139.14 -> proxy2.ba.best.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:04:25 -0500 Received: from dgoldman (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id JAA23458 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:03:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.1.20000212085723.04880c10@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:02:30 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: How do I unsubscribe? In-Reply-To: <20000212122437.2214.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 04:24 AM 2/12/2000 , "Rat Boy" wrote: >Hi, > >I've have been a memeber of this forum for some time now and have greatly benefited from it and want to thank everyone who participated during that time. > >Now I need to go through a little life simplification and would like to unsubscribe. How do I unsubscribe from this forum but still leave the door open so I can come back when needed? > >I have already sent emails in which I placed unsubscribe in both the subject area and into the body of the letter. For some reason that doesn't seem to get me off. I am still receiving messages. Any ideas? To unsubscribe, you must not only send a message with the subject being 'unsubscribe' (without the quotes), but you must also send it to the proper address (which is DIFFERENT from the normal address used for messages. So, either send a message as follows: TO: thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu SUBJECT: unsubscribe or click on the link below: List-Unsubscribe: The door to return is always open. Just re-join the list the same way you did originally. Good luck -- David Goldman From cph Sat Feb 12 14:09:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA32745 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:09:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15965; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:07:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15880; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15866; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:07:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (24.128.1.71 -> chmls06.mediaone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:07:20 -0500 Received: from Laptop (h008019357f7a.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.150.141]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA06068 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:07:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeffrey Baker" To: Subject: RE: How do I unsubscribe Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:07:16 -0500 Message-ID: <002101bf758c$607f7420$0200a8c0@Laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Jimmy - I assume you've seen the Sartre play, "No Exit"? Don't even think about unsubscribing. -- JB From cph Sat Feb 12 14:09:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA32749 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:09:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15700; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:05:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:05:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15575; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:05:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAB15562; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:05:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (24.128.1.71 -> chmls06.mediaone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:05:13 -0500 Received: from Laptop (h008019357f7a.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.150.141]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA05678 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:05:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeffrey Baker" To: Subject: Re: Question re. hard drive suspend capabilities (770z) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:05:07 -0500 Message-ID: <002001bf758c$1404e6c0$0200a8c0@Laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Bill, thanks for your - as always - informative answer on this one. Well, I hope to live to see memory stick or other replacement of hard drives, but by that time I'll probably be too deaf to appreciate it. Best, Jeff From cph Sat Feb 12 17:26:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA01082 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:26:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24307; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:25:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:21:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24057; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:21:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24044; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:21:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.19 -> fb01.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:21:21 -0500 Received: from user-37ka109.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37ka109.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.4.9]) by fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA27536 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:20:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002122220.RAA27536@fb01.eng00.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:19:59 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199908032022.PAA16282@dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: USB Support List-Unsubscribe: Help! I am still looking for a pc card USB port to use with my TP760XL running Win95b. I see several for W98 -- but nada for Win95, not even a driver. Can anyone point me to a source for a pc card USB port to work on a TP under Win95? Allan Ballard From cph Sat Feb 12 18:06:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA01284 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:06:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26437; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:04:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26362; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:04:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26348; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:04:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:04:28 -0500 Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA12141; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:04:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:04:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" To: Allan Ballard cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: USB Support In-Reply-To: <200002122220.RAA27536@fb01.eng00.mindspring.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Your problem isn't the hardware, it's '95. Specifically, '95 doesn't support USB out of the box; I believe that there is stuff at the MS web site to get '95B running USB, but would I buy a USB product assuming that it'll work with '95? No. I suggest (as much as I hate to do so, for philisophical reasons) that you upgrade to '98. Sorry... -Ken On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Allan Ballard wrote: > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:19:59 -0500 (EST) > From: Allan Ballard > To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" > Subject: USB Support > > Help! > > I am still looking for a pc card USB port to use > with my TP760XL running Win95b. > > I see several for W98 -- but nada for Win95, > not even a driver. > > Can anyone point me to a source for a pc card > USB port to work on a TP under Win95? > > Allan Ballard > > > From cph Sat Feb 12 18:31:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA01424 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:31:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27526; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:29:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:29:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27424; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27409; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:28:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (24.25.227.35 -> hnlmail2.hawaii.rr.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:28:57 -0500 Received: from dpk.hawaii.rr.com ([24.25.253.37]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:28:54 -1000 Message-ID: <001a01bf75b1$17ac6b20$25fd1918@hawaii.rr.com> Reply-To: "Keith @ LavaNet" From: "Keith @ LavaNet" To: References: Subject: Re: USB Support Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:30:04 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF755D.459BA5E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF755D.459BA5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --Actually I've run quite a few products with the Win95b with USB = support. So long as you have the OSR2 supplement for USB in your = add/remove programs box in your control panel, you'll do fine. A good = way to go shopping is to choose a product and email the support = department of the manufacturer for details. They'll tell you if the = product has any problems working with 95b. Whatever you do, don't buy = that worthless win98 upgrade kit. I've heard horror stories of all data = being lost, and a minimal of two installs to make that kit work. Do = yourself a favor, and pick up a full version of the second edition of = win98 and install fresh. Just save your data somewhere and start fresh. = Best of luck. --Keith=20 Honolulu, Hawaii ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken D'Ambrosio=20 To: Allan Ballard=20 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu=20 Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 1:04 PM Subject: Re: USB Support Your problem isn't the hardware, it's '95. Specifically, '95 doesn't support USB out of the box; I believe that there is stuff at the MS = web site to get '95B running USB, but would I buy a USB product assuming = that it'll work with '95? No. I suggest (as much as I hate to do so, for philisophical reasons) that you upgrade to '98. Sorry... -Ken On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Allan Ballard wrote: > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:19:59 -0500 (EST) > From: Allan Ballard > To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" > Subject: USB Support >=20 > Help! >=20 > I am still looking for a pc card USB port to use > with my TP760XL running Win95b. >=20 > I see several for W98 -- but nada for Win95, > not even a driver. >=20 > Can anyone point me to a source for a pc card > USB port to work on a TP under Win95? >=20 > Allan Ballard >=20 >=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF755D.459BA5E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
--Actually I've run = quite a few=20 products with the Win95b with USB support.  So long as you have the = OSR2=20 supplement for USB in your add/remove programs box in your control = panel, you'll=20 do fine.  A good way to go shopping is to choose a product and = email the=20 support department of the manufacturer for details.  They'll tell = you if=20 the product has any problems working with 95b.  Whatever you do, = don't buy=20 that worthless win98 upgrade kit.  I've heard horror stories of all = data=20 being lost, and a minimal of two installs to make that kit work.  = Do=20 yourself a favor, and pick up a full version of the second edition of = win98 and=20 install fresh.  Just save your data somewhere and start = fresh.  Best=20 of luck.
 
    = --Keith=20
    = Honolulu,=20 Hawaii
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken = D'Ambrosio
To: Allan=20 Ballard
Sent: Saturday, February 12, = 2000 1:04=20 PM
Subject: Re: USB Support

Your problem isn't the hardware, it's '95.  = Specifically,=20 '95 doesn't
support USB out of the box; I believe that there is = stuff at=20 the MS web
site to get '95B running USB, but would I buy a USB = product=20 assuming that
it'll work with '95?  No.  I suggest (as = much as I=20 hate to do so, for
philisophical reasons) that you upgrade to=20 '98.

Sorry...

-Ken

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Allan = Ballard=20 wrote:

> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:19:59 -0500 (EST)
> = From:=20 Allan Ballard <aballard@ix.netcom.com>
= >=20 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" = <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>
> = Subject:=20 USB Support
>
> Help!
>
> I am still looking = for a=20 pc card USB port to use
> with my TP760XL running = Win95b.
>=20
> I see several for W98 -- but nada for Win95,
> not even = a=20 driver.
>
> Can anyone point me to a source for a pc = card
>=20 USB port to work on a TP under Win95?
>
> Allan = Ballard
>=20
>
>
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF755D.459BA5E0-- From cph Sat Feb 12 18:34:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA01440 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:34:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27826; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:33:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:33:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27731; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:33:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27715; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (24.25.227.35 -> hnlmail2.hawaii.rr.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:33:19 -0500 Received: from dpk.hawaii.rr.com ([24.25.253.37]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:33:16 -1000 Message-ID: <002301bf75b1$b428d7e0$25fd1918@hawaii.rr.com> Reply-To: "Keith Wong" From: "Keith Wong" To: Subject: shopping 4 stuff Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:34:27 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01BF755D.E2199940" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BF755D.E2199940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --Does anyone know of anyone selling the workpad z50 for less than $300 = now? I've been telling my friends for weeks about the price drop, and = only now they're interested. Well the sources I had dried up, = firstsource, egghead, and insight. Anyone know of others? =20 Also I'm still looking for an adapter for a Thinkpad 701 to a dock = II. Anyone selling? Thanks one and all. --Keith =20 Keith Wong System Admin - Document Imaging Honolulu Police Department - Records Division Office: (808) 529-3434 Emails: wongk007@hawaii.rr.com pirate@lava.net kwong@email.uophx.edu ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BF755D.E2199940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
--Does anyone know of = anyone selling=20 the workpad z50 for less than $300 now?  I've been telling my = friends for=20 weeks about the price drop, and only now they're interested.  Well = the=20 sources I had dried up, firstsource, egghead, and insight.  Anyone = know of=20 others? 
 
    Also = I'm still=20 looking for an adapter for a Thinkpad 701 to a dock II.  Anyone=20 selling?  Thanks one and all.
 
    = --Keith =20
 
 
Keith Wong
System = Admin - Document=20 Imaging
Honolulu Police Department - Records = Division
Office:  =20 (808) 529-3434
Emails: wongk007@hawaii.rr.com
&nbs= p;            = ;  =20 pirate@lava.net
   =              = kwong@email.uophx.edu ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BF755D.E2199940-- From cph Sat Feb 12 19:22:11 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA01663 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:22:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00464; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:20:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:20:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00387; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:20:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00374; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.19 -> fb01.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:20:25 -0500 Received: from user-37ka109.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37ka109.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.4.9]) by fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA30631; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:20:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002130020.TAA30631@fb01.eng00.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Ken D'Ambrosio" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:19:03 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: USB Support List-Unsubscribe: Thanks, but it will be the proveribial cold day in hell before I switch to W98 . I guess I can always put a pci card USB port in the desktop, for WARP or NT... Thanks, though. Allan On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:04:24 -0500 (EST), Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: >Your problem isn't the hardware, it's '95. Specifically, '95 doesn't >support USB out of the box; I believe that there is stuff at the MS web >site to get '95B running USB, but would I buy a USB product assuming that >it'll work with '95? No. I suggest (as much as I hate to do so, for >philisophical reasons) that you upgrade to '98. > >Sorry... > >-Ken > >On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Allan Ballard wrote: > >> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:19:59 -0500 (EST) >> From: Allan Ballard >> To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" >> Subject: USB Support >> >> Help! >> >> I am still looking for a pc card USB port to use >> with my TP760XL running Win95b. >> >> I see several for W98 -- but nada for Win95, >> not even a driver. >> >> Can anyone point me to a source for a pc card >> USB port to work on a TP under Win95? >> >> Allan Ballard >> >> >> > From cph Sat Feb 12 19:26:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA01678 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:26:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00882; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:25:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:24:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00791; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00778; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:24:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.19 -> fb01.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:24:53 -0500 Received: from user-37ka109.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37ka109.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.4.9]) by fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA21628; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:24:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002130024.TAA21628@fb01.eng00.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Keith @ LavaNet" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:23:25 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <001a01bf75b1$17ac6b20$25fd1918@hawaii.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: USB Support List-Unsubscribe: Can you point to the URL? The MS page is worse than the IBM page. So far all I see is: http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/downloads/choose.asp and that is for multifunction cardbus support. Allan On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:30:04 -1000, Keith @ LavaNet wrote: >--Actually I've run quite a few products with the Win95b with USB support. So long as you have the OSR2 supplement for USB in your add/remove programs box in your control panel, you'll do fine. A good way to go shopping is to choose a product and email the support department of the manufacturer for details. They'll tell you if the product has any problems working with 95b. Whatever you do, don't buy that worthless win98 upgrade kit. I've heard horror stories of all data being lost, and a minimal of two installs to make that kit work. Do yourself a favor, and pick up a full version of the second edition of win98 and install fresh. Just save your data somewhere and start fresh. Best of luck. > > --Keith > Honolulu, Hawaii > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken D'Ambrosio > To: Allan Ballard > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 1:04 PM > Subject: Re: USB Support > > > Your problem isn't the hardware, it's '95. Specifically, '95 doesn't > support USB out of the box; I believe that there is stuff at the MS web > site to get '95B running USB, but would I buy a USB product assuming that > it'll work with '95? No. I suggest (as much as I hate to do so, for > philisophical reasons) that you upgrade to '98. > > Sorry... > > -Ken > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Allan Ballard wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:19:59 -0500 (EST) > > From: Allan Ballard > > To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" > > Subject: USB Support > > > > Help! > > > > I am still looking for a pc card USB port to use > > with my TP760XL running Win95b. > > > > I see several for W98 -- but nada for Win95, > > not even a driver. > > > > Can anyone point me to a source for a pc card > > USB port to work on a TP under Win95? > > > > Allan Ballard > > > > > > > > From cph Sun Feb 13 09:21:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA14510 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:21:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08871; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:19:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:18:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08736; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:18:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08723; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:18:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.19 -> fb01.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:18:01 -0500 Received: from user-38ld0qu.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38ld0qu.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.131.94]) by fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA14190; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:17:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002131417.JAA14190@fb01.eng00.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Keith @ LavaNet" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:16:08 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <001a01bf75b1$17ac6b20$25fd1918@hawaii.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: USB Support List-Unsubscribe: -----> Go to http://www.compuclinic.com/osr2faq/ and hit the very first link (about OSR2 and USB). Four links appear on the page which loads next. The last one still works. Download the file "usbsup.exe" Will find out today if this works. Thanks. On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:30:04 -1000, Keith @ LavaNet wrote: >--Actually I've run quite a few products with the Win95b with USB support. So long as you have the OSR2 supplement for USB in your add/remove programs box in your control panel, you'll do fine. A good way to go shopping is to choose a product and email the support department of the manufacturer for details. They'll tell you if the product has any problems working with 95b. Whatever you do, don't buy that worthless win98 upgrade kit. I've heard horror stories of all data being lost, and a minimal of two installs to make that kit work. Do yourself a favor, and pick up a full version of the second edition of win98 and install fresh. Just save your data somewhere and start fresh. Best of luck. > > --Keith > Honolulu, Hawaii > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken D'Ambrosio > To: Allan Ballard > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 1:04 PM > Subject: Re: USB Support > > > Your problem isn't the hardware, it's '95. Specifically, '95 doesn't > support USB out of the box; I believe that there is stuff at the MS web > site to get '95B running USB, but would I buy a USB product assuming that > it'll work with '95? No. I suggest (as much as I hate to do so, for > philisophical reasons) that you upgrade to '98. > > Sorry... > > -Ken > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Allan Ballard wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:19:59 -0500 (EST) > > From: Allan Ballard > > To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" > > Subject: USB Support > > > > Help! > > > > I am still looking for a pc card USB port to use > > with my TP760XL running Win95b. > > > > I see several for W98 -- but nada for Win95, > > not even a driver. > > > > Can anyone point me to a source for a pc card > > USB port to work on a TP under Win95? > > > > Allan Ballard > > > > > > > > From cph Sun Feb 13 11:31:26 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA14827 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:31:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27651; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:22:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:21:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27440; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27398; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:21:42 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.67.3.171]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000213162139.DVLU1419@701c> for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:21:39 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01bf763e$83bb3fc0$ab03430c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: 701C/CS Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 10:22:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. The facts are now in. A 701C/CS with 4 meg of native memory can accept 16 megs of SO-DIMM. 8 meg of native memory can accept 32 megs. With a planer mod, 16 meg on the board, 64 megs will give you 80 megs of usable memory. I have another friend who replaced the CPU on the planer board, and while at it put in 16 megs of memory. This machine shows very good numbers under test. After some research, I found IBM internal notes that recommended that the 701 series have 20/24 megs as the upper memory limit. This was because a 4 meg machine will not access the upper memory directly, thus no real boost in speed. The planer board will not accept greater than 16 megs of memory. This is because of some address limits of the chipset for the 486 CPU. To replace the chips requires both ESD and SMD practices be followed,. Sorry for the long post, most people do not have such old computers. From cph Sun Feb 13 11:46:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA14868 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:46:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29408; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:37:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:37:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29330; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:37:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29316; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:37:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.19 -> cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:37:21 -0500 Received: from default - 63.27.184.62 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 08:37:20 -0800 Message-ID: <000b01bf7640$714b2d80$3eb81b3f@default> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Think" Subject: Help! Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 10:36:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I know this off topic, but has anyone seen a good price on an external CD burner at least 4X that is USB?? Thanks again. Brad From cph Sun Feb 13 12:34:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA14994 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:34:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03011; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:26:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:25:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02879; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:25:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pollux.iue.it (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02858; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:25:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from pollux.iue.it (149.139.13.251 -> pollux.iue.it) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:25:08 -0500 Received: from iue.it (pc3598.iue.it [149.139.6.2]) by pollux.iue.it (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12687 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:25:55 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38A6E8F3.7658F2B8@iue.it> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:25:07 +0100 From: Peter Wennersten X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: the CD recovery: did I blow it? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The novice is at it again! Trying out the tips I got in the last few days (thanks everyone) I was still not successful, so I became a bit reckless (at 2AM) and tried every *.EXE on the recovery boot disk hoping to bypass the recovery shell/program and start the reinstall process without the recovery shell. Not knowing what it would do, I typed FDISK and when I realised it was the partitioning program I aborted it. But it was a bit late. Now when I try to boot it says 'Operating system not found' and I have to insert a diskette and boot from the A: drive (still cannot boot from CD drive) upon which the message appears 'C: contains no valid FAT or FAT32 partition'. Does this mean that all files that were on C: and D: (the two hard drive partitions) are gone or is there a way to recreate the FAT? (I backed up my most important files before starting to poke around like this but not everything. Those files are not important enough to buy recovery software but if there is a way within DOS I wouldn't mind trying it out.) /Peter -- Peter Wennersten Researcher at the Dept. of Social & Political Sciences European University Institute From cph Sun Feb 13 13:31:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA15120 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:31:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05848; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:29:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:28:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05729; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:28:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05715; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (147.225.51.39 -> mosquito.ny.ans.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:28:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (bkomar@localhost) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA08001; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:28:10 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mosquito.ny.ans.net: bkomar owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:28:10 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: Rat Boy cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How do I unsubscribe? In-Reply-To: <20000212122437.2214.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: In order to List-Unsubscribe: mailto:thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Subject=unsubscribe Have a nice day, Bruce Komar On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Rat Boy wrote: > Hi, > > I've have been a memeber of this forum for some time now and have greatly > benefited from it and want to thank everyone who participated during that > time. > > Now I need to go through a little life simplification and would like to > unsubscribe. How do I unsubscribe from this forum but still leave the door > open so I can come back when needed? > > I have already sent emails in which I placed unsubscribe in both the subject > area and into the body of the letter. For some reason that doesn't seem to > get me off. I am still receiving messages. Any ideas? > > Thank You Jimmy > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > From cph Sun Feb 13 14:23:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA15270 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:23:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09320; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:20:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:20:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09236; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:20:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09222; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:20:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (208.154.252.26 -> mail.iso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:20:27 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial42.auto-net.com [208.154.252.91]) by mail.iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27683 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:18:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <38A6AF6C.FDC5A3B0@iso.net> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:19:42 +0000 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: the CD recovery: did I blow it? References: <38A6E8F3.7658F2B8@iue.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: When FDISK strikes it remakes the partition table, resets the FATs, etc. and gives you a nice "virgin" drive. The info may still be there but it is a bear to find. That's why the recovery boys get so much money. If your important stuff is backed up, consider yourself lucky (I did the same thing once but hadn't backed up anything.) and reformat and reinstall. Bill Peter Wennersten wrote: > The novice is at it again! > > Trying out the tips I got in the last few days (thanks everyone) I was > still not successful, so I became a bit reckless (at 2AM) and tried > every *.EXE on the recovery boot disk hoping to bypass the recovery > shell/program and start the reinstall process without the recovery > shell. > > Not knowing what it would do, I typed FDISK and when I realised it was > the partitioning program I aborted it. But it was a bit late. Now when I > try to boot it says 'Operating system not found' and I have to insert a > diskette and boot from the A: drive (still cannot boot from CD drive) > upon which the message appears 'C: contains no valid FAT or FAT32 > partition'. > > Does this mean that all files that were on C: and D: (the two hard drive > partitions) are gone or is there a way to recreate the FAT? (I backed up > my most important files before starting to poke around like this but not > everything. Those files are not important enough to buy recovery > software but if there is a way within DOS I wouldn't mind trying it > out.) > > /Peter > > -- > Peter Wennersten > Researcher at the Dept. of Social & Political Sciences > European University Institute From cph Sun Feb 13 15:18:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA15442 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:18:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12400; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:15:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12290; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:15:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12277; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:15:13 -0500 Received: from ballarda (user-38lcium.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.75.214]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA03767 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:15:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001d01bf765e$d9883910$6f6f6f6f@ballarda> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Think" Subject: USP + PC Card + TP760XL Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:13:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Made some progress, still need some advice. I found the mickysoft patch on the URL I posted earlier, and it installed without a problem. Put in the PC Card USB port, and booted. Win95 OSR2 found the hardware, then became very confused. It could not find OPENHCI.sys. So I helped it out by pointing it to the Windows/System directory, where it found the file (albeit dated 4/10/97). The file was on a Win95a ROM; my OSR2 ROM is compressed using some method only IBM can decipher. SO....all is Ok? No! The USB gadget I am trying to use demands software be loaded before its use. During the install process, it fails, saying: "Host Controller USB Support: can not convert to USB driver" Say what? If this makes any sense to you -- or if you just have a reasonably educated guess -- please post a response. So near......... Allan Ballard aballard@ix.netcom.com From cph Sun Feb 13 15:35:13 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA15515 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:35:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13771; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:32:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13669; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:32:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13656; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:32:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:32:43 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.17.124]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000213203236.GWPQ1419@compaq>; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:32:36 +0000 Message-ID: <38A714D5.7363@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:32:21 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan Ballard CC: Think Subject: Re: USP + PC Card + TP760XL References: <001d01bf765e$d9883910$6f6f6f6f@ballarda> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: First of all, the failure to find that fiule which is already in Windows/System is a known bug in the USB update. You did it right - pointed it to the system dir. Many USB devices can only work under W98 - there are two standards, one can do W95, the other is only W98. You need to read the box REAL carefully before buying a USB device if using Win95 There are parallel, serial ports and mice and camera that work under W95, I have an example of each. Allan Ballard wrote: > > Made some progress, still need some advice. > > I found the mickysoft patch on the URL I posted > earlier, and it installed without a problem. > > Put in the PC Card USB port, and booted. > > Win95 OSR2 found the hardware, then became > very confused. It could not find OPENHCI.sys. > > So I helped it out by pointing it to the Windows/System > directory, where it found the file (albeit dated 4/10/97). > The file was on a Win95a ROM; my OSR2 ROM is > compressed using some method only IBM can > decipher. > > SO....all is Ok? > > No! > > The USB gadget I am trying to use demands software > be loaded before its use. > > During the install process, it fails, saying: > > "Host Controller USB Support: can not convert to USB > driver" > > Say what? > > If this makes any sense to you -- or if you just have a reasonably > educated guess -- please post a response. > > So near......... > > Allan Ballard > aballard@ix.netcom.com From cph Sun Feb 13 16:06:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA15651 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:06:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15968; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:04:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15860; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15847; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:04:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:04:40 -0500 Received: from ballarda (user-38lcium.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.75.214]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA01037; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:04:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003401bf7665$be21bdc0$6f6f6f6f@ballarda> From: "Allan Ballard" To: Cc: "Think" Subject: Re: USP + PC Card + TP760XL Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:03:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: The box does say Win98 is a requirement; guess I will have to start reading directions now...it's a brave new world. The USB controller shows up in device Manager but down at the bottom the port is Yellow !'ed our, saying it is disabled by hardware, and needs to be re-enabled. Maybe that's what the install CD Rom for the 'scope does -- the software that sees the OS and will not budge any further. If need be, I guess I can uninstall the port, and then reinstall it for use with devices that will tolerate Win95 OSR2. But I *still* think it is looking for a specific file which if found, would make the Thinkpad's new port happy. Allan Ballard -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Markowitz To: Allan Ballard Cc: Think Date: Sunday, February 13, 2000 3:32 PM Subject: Re: USP + PC Card + TP760XL >First of all, the failure to find that fiule which is already in >Windows/System is a known bug in the USB update. You did it right - >pointed it to the system dir. >Many USB devices can only work under W98 - there are two standards, one >can do W95, the other is only W98. >You need to read the box REAL carefully before buying a USB device if >using Win95 >There are parallel, serial ports and mice and camera that work under >W95, I have an example of each. > >Allan Ballard wrote: >> >> Made some progress, still need some advice. >> >> I found the mickysoft patch on the URL I posted >> earlier, and it installed without a problem. >> >> Put in the PC Card USB port, and booted. >> >> Win95 OSR2 found the hardware, then became >> very confused. It could not find OPENHCI.sys. >> >> So I helped it out by pointing it to the Windows/System >> directory, where it found the file (albeit dated 4/10/97). >> The file was on a Win95a ROM; my OSR2 ROM is >> compressed using some method only IBM can >> decipher. >> >> SO....all is Ok? >> >> No! >> >> The USB gadget I am trying to use demands software >> be loaded before its use. >> >> During the install process, it fails, saying: >> >> "Host Controller USB Support: can not convert to USB >> driver" >> >> Say what? >> >> If this makes any sense to you -- or if you just have a reasonably >> educated guess -- please post a response. >> >> So near......... >> >> Allan Ballard >> aballard@ix.netcom.com From cph Sun Feb 13 17:05:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA15926 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:05:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18978; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:03:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:02:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18830; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:02:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18817; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:02:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.28 -> cpimssmtpu07.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:02:39 -0500 Received: from ppro200 - 216.160.143.242 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:02:34 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Richard A. Bilancia" To: Subject: Pandora's Box on TP 600X running NT ( a DirectX problem) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:02:28 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: First of all a plug: the Microsoft's new puzzle game, Pandora's Box, is a great game for children of all ages--especially those of us whose reflexes can't keep up with those of our 14 year old sons. Unfortunately, it won't run on my ThinkPad 600X running NT 4 SP6a even though it is supposed to work on NT 4 (SP4+). After a successful installation, whenenver I try to start the program I get the following: 'Unable to create DirectDraw Surface. Make sure that DirectX is installed, and then try again. ' According to Q250527 this is caused by: - Your monitor is not configured correctly. - The video driver installed on the computer is incompatible with Microsoft DirectX. - The video driver installed on the computer does not support a color palette higher than 256 colors. - The video adapter installed in the computer does not meet the minimum hardware requirements necessary to run the game. I'm running the latest video driver for the 600X that was posted last week. It is my understanding that DirectX 3 gets installed with any NT SP 4 or greater. Can anyone provide some insight as to what may be the problem and/or what I might be able to do to get things working. Thanks in advance, Rich Bilancia From cph Sun Feb 13 17:22:14 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA15989 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:22:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19997; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:21:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:20:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19889; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:20:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19871; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.19 -> fb01.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:20:48 -0500 Received: from user-37ka7qe.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37ka7qe.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.31.78]) by fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA15162; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:20:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002132220.RAA15162@fb01.eng00.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Keith @ LavaNet" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:19:22 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <001a01bf75b1$17ac6b20$25fd1918@hawaii.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: USB Support List-Unsubscribe: Is there a method to draw the USB stuff off a win98 Rom, and avoid the upgrade? On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:30:04 -1000, Keith @ LavaNet wrote: >--Actually I've run quite a few products with the Win95b with USB support. So long as you have the OSR2 supplement for USB in your add/remove programs box in your control panel, you'll do fine. A good way to go shopping is to choose a product and email the support department of the manufacturer for details. They'll tell you if the product has any problems working with 95b. Whatever you do, don't buy that worthless win98 upgrade kit. I've heard horror stories of all data being lost, and a minimal of two installs to make that kit work. Do yourself a favor, and pick up a full version of the second edition of win98 and install fresh. Just save your data somewhere and start fresh. Best of luck. > > --Keith > Honolulu, Hawaii > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken D'Ambrosio > To: Allan Ballard > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 1:04 PM > Subject: Re: USB Support > > > Your problem isn't the hardware, it's '95. Specifically, '95 doesn't > support USB out of the box; I believe that there is stuff at the MS web > site to get '95B running USB, but would I buy a USB product assuming that > it'll work with '95? No. I suggest (as much as I hate to do so, for > philisophical reasons) that you upgrade to '98. > > Sorry... > > -Ken > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Allan Ballard wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:19:59 -0500 (EST) > > From: Allan Ballard > > To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" > > Subject: USB Support > > > > Help! > > > > I am still looking for a pc card USB port to use > > with my TP760XL running Win95b. > > > > I see several for W98 -- but nada for Win95, > > not even a driver. > > > > Can anyone point me to a source for a pc card > > USB port to work on a TP under Win95? > > > > Allan Ballard > > > > > > > > From cph Mon Feb 14 02:30:00 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA18234 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:30:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16412; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:29:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:27:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16164; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:27:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA16151; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:27:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:27:08 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-123.gate.net [207.36.212.123]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA37514; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:26:53 -0500 Message-ID: <38A7AE3F.318D5CB4@gate.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:26:55 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Wennersten CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: the CD recovery: did I blow it? References: <38A6E8F3.7658F2B8@iue.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Peter.. you probably did.. not exactly sure what you did, but if you ran fdisk, in order to destroy anything, you would have had to tell it to delete the current partitions.. and it does not make this easy, asking for constant assurances from the user that the user is NOT doing something he will later regret.. apparently, you did something that you now regret... i suggest that you take a look and HOPE that the MBR and partition table are not erased... merely invoking FDISK will NOT automatically destroy the partition table and master boot record.. so, if these are now gone, i doubt it WAS, in fact, FDISK.. SO, take another look.. dredge up whatever you have in the way of HDD recovery utilities.. (beware of some of these as they only make things worse) you might try FDISK again and LOOK, but do not change.. meantime, if someone will send me that old IBM utility that will take a diskette image, make it into a file, then reconstruct it on a floppy, i'll make a boot floppy for peter and e-mail it to him.. (i forget the names) Peter Wennersten wrote: > The novice is at it again! > > Trying out the tips I got in the last few days (thanks everyone) I was > still not successful, so I became a bit reckless (at 2AM) and tried > every *.EXE on the recovery boot disk hoping to bypass the recovery > shell/program and start the reinstall process without the recovery > shell. > > Not knowing what it would do, I typed FDISK and when I realised it was > the partitioning program I aborted it. But it was a bit late. Now when I > try to boot it says 'Operating system not found' and I have to insert a > diskette and boot from the A: drive (still cannot boot from CD drive) > upon which the message appears 'C: contains no valid FAT or FAT32 > partition'. > > Does this mean that all files that were on C: and D: (the two hard drive > partitions) are gone or is there a way to recreate the FAT? (I backed up > my most important files before starting to poke around like this but not > everything. Those files are not important enough to buy recovery > software but if there is a way within DOS I wouldn't mind trying it > out.) > > /Peter > > -- > Peter Wennersten > Researcher at the Dept. of Social & Political Sciences > European University Institute -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 14 03:48:24 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA18547 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 03:48:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20460; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 03:47:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 03:46:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20340; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 03:46:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20326; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 03:46:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hawaii.rr.com (24.25.227.33 -> hnlmail1.hawaii.rr.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 03:46:17 -0500 Received: from dpk.hawaii.rr.com ([24.25.253.37]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 13 Feb 2000 22:46:14 -1000 Message-ID: <003301bf76c8$1eac2c40$25fd1918@hawaii.rr.com> Reply-To: "Keith @ LavaNet" From: "Keith @ LavaNet" To: References: <200002132220.RAA15162@fb01.eng00.mindspring.net> Subject: Re: USB Support Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 22:47:26 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01BF7674.4CC62080" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BF7674.4CC62080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --Hmm you know Allan, my pals tried that with win98 and win98SE, it was = a no go. I think some of the original buggy 98 drivers would work for = win95 because they were same drivers, but not for the new SE version. = But if you do go with the new win98 SE version, it is much better than = the initial reports of win98 though. One of my clients has the original = win98 and it's a horror, auto removing programs and losing pointers all = by itself. I have the win98 SE on my new Dell workstation at work and = it is pretty rock solid. The only thing I don't like is the windows = explorer interface, but that can be altered to look like the old win95 = explorer though. Other than that, it's identical, with the nice added = feature of recognizing more than 2gb of hard drive space, and = summarizing it and it's free space correctly. I used to be a die hard = win95 fan, but now I just wait until the second edition and I usually = get impressed. Good luck either way though. =20 regards, keith ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Allan Ballard=20 To: Keith @ LavaNet ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu=20 Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 12:19 PM Subject: Re: USB Support Is there a method to draw the USB stuff off a win98 Rom, and avoid the upgrade? On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:30:04 -1000, Keith @ LavaNet wrote: >--Actually I've run quite a few products with the Win95b with USB = support. So long as=20 you have the OSR2 supplement for USB in your add/remove programs box = in your=20 control panel, you'll do fine. A good way to go shopping is to choose = a product and=20 email the support department of the manufacturer for details. They'll = tell you if the=20 product has any problems working with 95b. Whatever you do, don't buy = that worthless=20 win98 upgrade kit. I've heard horror stories of all data being lost, = and a minimal of two=20 installs to make that kit work. Do yourself a favor, and pick up a = full version of the=20 second edition of win98 and install fresh. Just save your data = somewhere and start=20 fresh. Best of luck. > > --Keith=20 > Honolulu, Hawaii > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Ken D'Ambrosio=20 > To: Allan Ballard=20 > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu=20 > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 1:04 PM > Subject: Re: USB Support > > > Your problem isn't the hardware, it's '95. Specifically, '95 = doesn't > support USB out of the box; I believe that there is stuff at the MS = web > site to get '95B running USB, but would I buy a USB product = assuming that > it'll work with '95? No. I suggest (as much as I hate to do so, = for > philisophical reasons) that you upgrade to '98. > > Sorry... > > -Ken > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Allan Ballard wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:19:59 -0500 (EST) > > From: Allan Ballard > > To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" > > Subject: USB Support > >=20 > > Help! > >=20 > > I am still looking for a pc card USB port to use > > with my TP760XL running Win95b. > >=20 > > I see several for W98 -- but nada for Win95, > > not even a driver. > >=20 > > Can anyone point me to a source for a pc card > > USB port to work on a TP under Win95? > >=20 > > Allan Ballard > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BF7674.4CC62080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
--Hmm you know Allan, = my pals tried=20 that with win98 and win98SE, it was a no go.  I think some of the = original=20 buggy 98 drivers would work for win95 because they were same drivers, = but not=20 for the new SE version.  But if you do go with the new win98 SE = version, it=20 is much better than the initial reports of win98 though.  One of my = clients=20 has the original win98 and it's a horror, auto removing programs and = losing=20 pointers all by itself.  I have the win98 SE on my new Dell = workstation at=20 work and it is pretty rock solid.  The only thing I don't like is = the=20 windows explorer interface, but that can be altered to look like the old = win95=20 explorer though.  Other than that, it's identical, with the nice = added=20 feature of recognizing more than 2gb of hard drive space, and = summarizing it and=20 it's free space correctly.  I used to be a die hard win95 fan, but = now I=20 just wait until the second edition and I usually get impressed. Good = luck either=20 way though.    
 
   =20 regards,
    = keith
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Allan=20 Ballard
To: Keith @ LavaNet ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 = 12:19=20 PM
Subject: Re: USB Support

Is there a method to draw the USB stuff off
a win98 = Rom, and=20 avoid the upgrade?

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:30:04 -1000, Keith @ = LavaNet=20 wrote:

>--Actually I've run quite a few products with the = Win95b=20 with USB support.  So long as
you have the OSR2 supplement = for USB in=20 your add/remove programs box in your
control panel, you'll do = fine. =20 A good way to go shopping is to choose a product and
email the = support=20 department of the manufacturer for details.  They'll tell you if = the=20
product has any problems working with 95b.  Whatever you do, = don't=20 buy that worthless
win98 upgrade kit.  I've heard horror = stories of=20 all data being lost, and a minimal of two
installs to make that = kit=20 work.  Do yourself a favor, and pick up a full version of the =
second=20 edition of win98 and install fresh.  Just save your data = somewhere and=20 start
fresh.  Best of luck.
>
>    = --Keith=20
>    Honolulu, Hawaii
>  ----- = Original=20 Message -----
>  From: Ken D'Ambrosio
>  To: = Allan=20 Ballard
>  Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu =
>  Sent:=20 Saturday, February 12, 2000 1:04 PM
>  Subject: Re: USB=20 Support
>
>
>  Your problem isn't the hardware, = it's=20 '95.  Specifically, '95 doesn't
>  support USB out of = the box;=20 I believe that there is stuff at the MS web
>  site to get = '95B=20 running USB, but would I buy a USB product assuming that
>  = it'll=20 work with '95?  No.  I suggest (as much as I hate to do so,=20 for
>  philisophical reasons) that you upgrade to=20 '98.
>
>  Sorry...
>
> =20 -Ken
>
>  On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Allan Ballard=20 wrote:
>
>  > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:19:59 = -0500=20 (EST)
>  > From: Allan Ballard <aballard@ix.netcom.com>
= > =20 > To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>
>&n= bsp;=20 > Subject: USB Support
>  >
>  >=20 Help!
>  >
>  > I am still looking for a = pc card=20 USB port to use
>  > with my TP760XL running=20 Win95b.
>  >
>  > I see several for W98 = -- but=20 nada for Win95,
>  > not even a driver.
>  = >=20
>  > Can anyone point me to a source for a pc=20 card
>  > USB port to work on a TP under = Win95?
> =20 >
>  > Allan Ballard
>  > =
>  >=20
>  > =
>
>

------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BF7674.4CC62080-- From cph Mon Feb 14 07:59:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA19362 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:59:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06816; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:57:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06734; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:57:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from spamgaab.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06720; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from spamgaab.compuserve.com (149.174.217.145 -> as-img-2.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:57:22 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spamgaab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.8) id HAA13891 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:57:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:57:07 -0500 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: 2.88 Floppy Drive Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: thinkpad Message-ID: <200002140757_MC2-9912-8D98@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id HAA19363 Amongst the Floppy Drives I recently purchased, (FRU 29H9230 and 84G2269 of which I have some left if anyone interested) was a 2.88Mb drive...! It functions very well in 1.44 / 720Kb format but are any additional drivers needed to get at the 2.88Mb format? The TPAD features/Sys info sees it as a 2.88, so is it a question of finding the 2.88Mb HDDs?? These 2.88Mb drives are quite a rarity aren't they? Cheers Mark UK From cph Mon Feb 14 08:13:31 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA19394 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:13:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07697; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:11:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:11:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07614; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA07600; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:11:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mill.cisco.com (161.44.200.11 -> mill.cisco.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:11:36 -0500 Received: from mill.cisco.com (mill.cisco.com [161.44.200.11]) by mill.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA09803; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:11:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:11:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" To: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: 2.88 Floppy Drive In-Reply-To: <200002140757_MC2-9912-8D98@compuserve.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: If you can find a 2.88 MB floppy, most all operating systems and major BIOSes support it. But finding the 2.88 is going to be the hard part. -Ken On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Mark Gardiner wrote: > Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:57:07 -0500 > From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> > To: thinkpad > Subject: 2.88 Floppy Drive > > Amongst the Floppy Drives I recently purchased, (FRU 29H9230 and 84G2269 of > which I have some left if anyone interested) > was a 2.88Mb drive...! > > It functions very well in 1.44 / 720Kb format but are any additional > drivers needed to get at the 2.88Mb format? The TPAD features/Sys info sees > it as a 2.88, so is it a question of finding the 2.88Mb HDDs?? > > These 2.88Mb drives are quite a rarity aren't they? > > Cheers > > Mark > UK > > From cph Mon Feb 14 08:17:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA19403 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:17:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08193; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:15:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08117; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:15:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08104; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:15:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:15:32 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [172.20.2.1]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16661; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:15:14 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [172.20.1.9]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA26764; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:15:13 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:16:02 +0000 To: thinkpad , Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: 2.88 Floppy Drive MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id IAA19404 I've got one and it works fine on both 755C and 755CX, even Linux knows what it is. I think it's driven by the BIOS so you shouldn't need anything extra. - Adam ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: 2.88 Floppy Drive Author: MIME:Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> at INTERNET Date: 2/14/00 1:00 PM Amongst the Floppy Drives I recently purchased, (FRU 29H9230 and 84G2269 of which I have some left if anyone interested) was a 2.88Mb drive...! It functions very well in 1.44 / 720Kb format but are any additional drivers needed to get at the 2.88Mb format? The TPAD features/Sys info sees it as a 2.88, so is it a question of finding the 2.88Mb HDDs?? These 2.88Mb drives are quite a rarity aren't they? Cheers Mark UK ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Mon Feb 14 08:57:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA19523 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:57:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11216; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:55:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:54:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11116; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11103; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from victor.MCESTATE.COM (207.211.200.31 -> victor.MCESTATE.COM) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:54:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by victor.MCESTATE.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA96625; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 05:54:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@victor.MCESTATE.COM) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 05:54:14 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Jeffrey Baker cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Question on TP770Z 95498AU In-Reply-To: <001301bf74bc$c4e6d8c0$0200a8c0@Laptop> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Jeffrey Baker wrote: Hmmm, how many colors can a high resolution TV display at once? Because somehow I couldn't really tell the difference between a DVD on the TP versus a DVD on the 27" Sony XBR TV. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > When I bought my 770z with the high resolution screen I was told that 16 bit > High Color was the maximum the screen would allow, because the rest of its > memory was devoted to high detail rendering. I don't believe the eye can > discern the difference between 16 and 32 bit color, but it certainly does > discern the incredible level of detail afforded by this screen. Best to > all -- Jeff From cph Mon Feb 14 10:24:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA20054 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:24:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17997; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:22:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17850; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:22:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17837; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:22:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (129.59.1.212 -> mailer2.mail.Vanderbilt.Edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:22:01 -0500 Received: from lruby (A061018.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.61.18]) by mailer2.mail.vanderbilt.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/VU-3.0.2) with SMTP id JAA08058; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:21:55 -0600 (CST) From: "Ruby Lestari" To: Cc: "Ruby Lestari (1)" Subject: Will there be any new ThinkPad model coming out anytime soon..?? Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:17:15 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: Will there be any new ThinkPad model coming out anytime soon..?? The reason I'm asking this is because I really plan to get the new 650 MHz model. I'm thinking either Toshiba Tecra 8100 or Hewlett-Packard Omni Book 4150. I love IBM so much. But for ThinkPad 600X, I think it's been priced absurdly high. Besides that, it's a really old model (I believe the model has been out for more than 2 years). Anyone heard any interesting news..?? I don't mind to wait for a couple more months. In Dharma, Ruby Lestari Department of Mechanical Engineering School of Engineering - Vanderbilt University --------------------------------------------- This message transmitted using 100% recycled electrons. From cph Mon Feb 14 13:07:14 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA21207 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:07:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02295; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:04:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01864; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:04:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01698; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:03:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:03:51 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-135.gate.net [199.227.20.198]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA71418; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:03:40 -0500 Message-ID: <38A8437D.948DBE18@gate.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:03:41 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Quantrill CC: thinkpad , Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: 2.88 Floppy Drive References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I tried a 2.88 floppy in a 770.. no go, probably did not have it wired up correctly.. in any event, i have some of the floppy diskettes here.. as well as the 2.88 working on the rare occasion that i use it, on a 760ED-U9A machine... it would be nice to have the support for this 2.meg floppy today, but, alas, they abandoned them some years ago.. i THINK the support is in the bios and it is no longer supported.. -:) Adam Quantrill wrote: > I've got one and it works fine on both 755C and 755CX, even Linux knows what it is. I think it's driven by the BIOS so you shouldn't need anything extra. > > - Adam > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: 2.88 Floppy Drive > Author: MIME:Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> at INTERNET > Date: 2/14/00 1:00 PM > > Amongst the Floppy Drives I recently purchased, (FRU 29H9230 and 84G2269 of which I have some left if anyone interested) > was a 2.88Mb drive...! > > It functions very well in 1.44 / 720Kb format but are any additional drivers needed to get at the 2.88Mb format? The TPAD features/Sys info sees it as a 2.88, so is it a question of finding the 2.88Mb HDDs?? > > These 2.88Mb drives are quite a rarity aren't they? > > Cheers > > Mark > UK > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 > Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 > Harston http://www.generics.co.uk > Cambridge CB2 5NH > United Kingdom > Registered in England No 2081960 > ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 14 13:08:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA21217 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:08:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02560; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:06:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:06:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02469; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02446; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:06:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:06:09 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-135.gate.net [199.227.20.198]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA61528; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:06:00 -0500 Message-ID: <38A84409.3AA25826@gate.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:06:01 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruby Lestari CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Will there be any new ThinkPad model coming out anytime soon..?? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: yes, as previously discussed, there sure will... beyond the 775 in may-june (maybe) there are all those new 600 models that you find so overpriced.. :-) i suggest looking for a nice used machine, about a year old, from a reliable source.. better value for your $$$ :-) as a rule of thumb, a new or updated model appears every 4 to 6 months... Ruby Lestari wrote: > Will there be any new ThinkPad model coming out anytime soon..?? > The reason I'm asking this is because I really plan to get the new 650 MHz > model. I'm thinking either Toshiba Tecra 8100 or Hewlett-Packard Omni Book > 4150. I love IBM so much. But for ThinkPad 600X, I think it's been priced > absurdly high. Besides that, it's a really old model (I believe the model > has been out for more than 2 years). > Anyone heard any interesting news..?? > I don't mind to wait for a couple more months. > > In Dharma, > Ruby Lestari > Department of Mechanical Engineering > School of Engineering - Vanderbilt University > --------------------------------------------- > This message transmitted using 100% recycled electrons. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 14 13:15:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA21274 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:15:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03728; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:14:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:14:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03629; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:14:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03480; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:12:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (156.3.140.68 -> muse.calarts.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:12:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (knowlton@localhost) by muse.calarts.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id KAA53618; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:12:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:12:40 -0800 From: Jeff Knowlton To: "Ken D'Ambrosio" cc: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com>, thinkpad Subject: Re: 2.88 Floppy Drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I bought a bunch of 2.88 floppy disks to use with my NeXT computer. I had to buy far more than I needed. If anyone is interested in some 2.88 Super High Ultra Mega Density floppies let me know. jeff On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: > If you can find a 2.88 MB floppy, most all operating systems and major > BIOSes support it. But finding the 2.88 is going to be the hard part. > > -Ken > From cph Mon Feb 14 18:13:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA23955 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:13:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29812; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:09:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29619; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:09:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29606; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:09:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.62 -> smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:09:29 -0500 Received: from 208-58-193-83.s337.tnt9.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([208.58.193.83] helo=desktop) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12KUcN-000427-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:09:24 -0500 Message-ID: <00be01bf7740$7afa4ea0$69f87ad1@desktop> From: "Donald Malcolm MacQueen" To: Subject: upgrading the HD in a 560 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:08:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B7_01BF7716.79C06120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01BF7716.79C06120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am trying to upgrade the hard drive in my 560 by following the instructions below. I am stuck at #3. The plastic cover over the keyboard is loose everywhere except near the battery compartment just to the right of the mouse buttons.=20 I don't want to break the plastic, so any hints would be appreciated. Thanks muchly. IBM ThinkPad=AE 560, 560C=20 Hard Drive Installation Instructions=20 You must reuse the silver bracket from the old hard drive! 1) Remove battery pack. 2) Remove screws from bottom half of notebook. 3) Remove the top half of the notebook. 4) Remove the 1 screw that holds the drive in place. 5) Gently pry the hard drive away from the notebook's connector. 6) Remove the two screws that attach the silver bracket to the hard = drive. 7) Attach the silver bracket to the new hard drive. 8) Insert the new hard drive into the notebook's connector (with the = green circuit board side up). 9) Re-attach the 1 screw that holds the drive in place. 10) Replace the top half of the notebook computer. 11) Replace the screws that were removed from STEP #2. Donald ---------------------------------------- Donald M. MacQueen Registered Smalltalk Bigot ---------------------------------------- I've tried the rest, now I use the best -- Smalltalk! ---------------------------------------- ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01BF7716.79C06120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am trying to upgrade the hard drive in my
560 by following the instructions below.
 
I am stuck at #3. The plastic cover over the
keyboard is loose everywhere except near
the battery compartment just to the right of
the mouse buttons.
 
I don't want to break the plastic, so any hints
would be appreciated.
 
Thanks muchly.
 
IBM ThinkPad® 560, 560C
Hard Drive Installation = Instructions=20
      You must reuse the silver bracket = >from the=20 old hard drive!
1)    Remove battery=20 pack.
2)    Remove screws from bottom half of=20 notebook.
3)    Remove the top half of the=20 notebook.
4)    Remove the 1 screw that holds the = drive in=20 place.
5)    Gently pry the hard drive away from the=20 notebook's connector.
6)    Remove the two screws that = attach=20 the silver bracket to the hard drive.
7)    Attach the = silver=20 bracket to the new hard drive.
8)    Insert the new = hard drive=20 into the notebook's connector (with the green circuit=20 board
      side = up).
9)   =20 Re-attach the 1 screw that holds the drive in place.
10)   = Replace=20 the top half of the notebook computer.
11)   Replace the = screws=20 that were removed from STEP #2.
Donald
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Donald M.=20 MacQueen
Registered Smalltalk=20 Bigot
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I've tried the = rest, now I=20 use the best --=20 Smalltalk!
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------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01BF7716.79C06120-- From cph Mon Feb 14 18:40:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA24157 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:40:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01885; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:38:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:38:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01793; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:38:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01778; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:38:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.62 -> smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:38:05 -0500 Received: from 216-164-137-79.s333.tnt4.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.137.79] helo=erols.com) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12KV45-0001Hw-00 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:38:01 -0500 Sender: lingenfr@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <38A89209.1D2A4C19@erols.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:38:49 -0500 From: "Rusty L. Lingenfelter" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: shopping 4 stuff References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: shopping 4 stuff > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:34:27 -1000 > From: "Keith Wong" > Reply-To: "Keith Wong" > To: > > --Does anyone know of anyone selling the workpad z50 for less than > $300 now? I've been telling my friends for weeks about the price > drop, and only now they're interested. Well the sources I had dried > up, firstsource, egghead, and insight. Anyone know of others? > > Also I'm still looking for an adapter for a Thinkpad 701 to a dock > II. Anyone selling? Thanks one and all. > > --Keith > > > Keith Wong > System Admin - Document Imaging > Honolulu Police Department - Records Division > Office: (808) 529-3434 > Emails: wongk007@hawaii.rr.com > pirate@lava.net > kwong@email.uophx.edu > > --------------------------------------------------------------- Keith, Long have I sought the mythical cheap 701 dock adapter. After hours and hours of searching, I found one in the miscellaneous bin of a Mexican web site. They went through their TX subsidiary and sent it to me. It turned out to be a Multiport II. I gave up and purchased a dock with adapter for $80 from Sophia (ed888@best.com). She does not guarantee that the dock works. I already have a dock and a CD. I have dealt with Sophia before when I bought my Hypercharger via Yahoo. I was very satisfied with the transaction. She is auctioning a number of dock/adapters, but I just contacted her directly. Good luck. Rusty From cph Mon Feb 14 20:19:53 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA24910 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:19:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09276; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:18:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:17:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08980; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08963; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:16:59 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-203.gate.net [199.227.131.12]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA105438; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:16:51 -0500 Message-ID: <38A8A904.EED7A25D@gate.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:16:52 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donald Malcolm MacQueen CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: upgrading the HD in a 560 References: <00be01bf7740$7afa4ea0$69f87ad1@desktop> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------8856EC7FC83D88ED53E0AEE6" List-Unsubscribe: --------------8856EC7FC83D88ED53E0AEE6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id UAA09276 go to the IBM hardware manuals on their web site.. there are pictures there.. there IS one screw that is accessible from within either the battery or memory compartments.. or it could be one under one of those little round black plastic filler covers.. as i recall (dim memory) its near the underside of the mouse.. the below instructions look familiar..! :-) Donald Malcolm MacQueen wrote: > I am trying to upgrade the hard drive in my560 by following the > instructions below. I am stuck at #3. The plastic cover over > thekeyboard is loose everywhere except nearthe battery compartment > just to the right ofthe mouse buttons. I don't want to break the > plastic, so any hintswould be appreciated. Thanks muchly. IBM > ThinkPad=AE 560, 560C > Hard Drive Installation Instructions > You must reuse the silver bracket from the old hard drive! > 1) Remove battery pack. > 2) Remove screws from bottom half of notebook. > 3) Remove the top half of the notebook. > 4) Remove the 1 screw that holds the drive in place. > 5) Gently pry the hard drive away from the notebook's connector. > 6) Remove the two screws that attach the silver bracket to the hard > drive. > 7) Attach the silver bracket to the new hard drive. > 8) Insert the new hard drive into the notebook's connector (with > the green circuit board > side up). > 9) Re-attach the 1 screw that holds the drive in place. > 10) Replace the top half of the notebook computer. > 11) Replace the screws that were removed from STEP #2.Donald > ---------------------------------------- > Donald M. MacQueen > Registered Smalltalk Bigot > ---------------------------------------- > I've tried the rest, now I use the best -- Smalltalk! > ---------------------------------------- -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net --------------8856EC7FC83D88ED53E0AEE6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit go to the IBM hardware manuals on their web site..
there are pictures there..
there IS one screw that is accessible from within either the battery or memory compartments..
or it could be one under one of those little round black plastic filler covers..

as i recall (dim memory) its near the underside of the mouse..

the below instructions look familiar..!  :-)

Donald Malcolm MacQueen wrote:

 I am trying to upgrade the hard drive in my560 by following the instructions below. I am stuck at #3. The plastic cover over thekeyboard is loose everywhere except nearthe battery compartment just to the right ofthe mouse buttons. I don't want to break the plastic, so any hintswould be appreciated. Thanks muchly. IBM ThinkPad® 560, 560C
Hard Drive Installation Instructions
      You must reuse the silver bracket >from the old hard drive!
1)    Remove battery pack.
2)    Remove screws from bottom half of notebook.
3)    Remove the top half of the notebook.
4)    Remove the 1 screw that holds the drive in place.
5)    Gently pry the hard drive away from the notebook's connector.
6)    Remove the two screws that attach the silver bracket to the hard drive.
7)    Attach the silver bracket to the new hard drive.
8)    Insert the new hard drive into the notebook's connector (with the green circuit board
      side up).
9)    Re-attach the 1 screw that holds the drive in place.
10)   Replace the top half of the notebook computer.
11)   Replace the screws that were removed from STEP #2.Donald
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Donald M. MacQueen
Registered Smalltalk Bigot
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I've tried the rest, now I use the best -- Smalltalk!
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Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net
  --------------8856EC7FC83D88ED53E0AEE6-- From cph Mon Feb 14 20:39:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA25054 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:39:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11159; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:38:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:38:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11075; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11061; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:38:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.123 -> swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:38:21 -0500 Received: from abanet.org (ipb103.miami15.fl.pub-ip.psi.net [38.30.142.103]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24644 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:38:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38A8AE27.A3190B25@abanet.org> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:38:48 -0500 From: "David A. Donet" Reply-To: ddonet@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad Subject: Short Battery Life Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello: After working well for the first 11 months, my TP 310ED starts beeping after about 10-15 minutes and goes into suspend (not hibernation) if I don't plug in the AC adapter. I have sent the unit in for warranty service 5 times in the last 9 months, without success. They have replaced various parts, including the screen, the keyboard and have updated the BIOS. I have also updated all of the driver matrixes, as well as W95. About 5 months ago, they also sent me a new battery, which made no difference. I have the standard equipment battery. Every time that IBM has returned the unit, they claim that it works OK at their site, but I only get about 15 minutes out of the battery before the system starts beeping. At that point, the battery meter shows around 85% to 95% or even more charge remaining. When the problem started, I was getting about 45 minutes out of the battery. Before that, I got about 2 to 2.5 hours out on the battery. Of course, now even the CD-ROM is acting up: it skips or even shuts down in the middle of a music CD. I appreciate any assistance or guidance you may offer. David From cph Mon Feb 14 20:41:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA25077 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:41:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11373; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:39:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:39:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11290; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:39:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11277; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:39:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.18 -> cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:39:46 -0500 Received: from default - 63.22.251.55 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:39:46 -0800 Message-ID: <007001bf7755$6044a460$37fb163f@default> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Think" Subject: CD burner for my 560 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:38:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Would it be possible to put a CD burner in a docking station, and then run it >from my 560? I can't figure out how I could do that. Thanks From cph Mon Feb 14 22:37:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA25667 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:37:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18824; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:35:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:34:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18647; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:34:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18630; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:34:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (206.31.56.7 -> main.ismi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:34:38 -0500 Received: from denhall (tc3-41.ismi.net [207.51.180.146]) by main.ismi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA24458; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:34:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002601bf776e$c7c445a0$92b433cf@denhall> From: "Denis Hall" To: "Brad Burean" Cc: Subject: Re: CD burner for my 560 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:40:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hi Brad, the easy solution is to use an external cdrom writer like the BackPack 4x4x24 which can use parallel interface or PCMCIA. Personally, I use an HP PCMCIA burner which is pretty spiffy. Little, light, and fast. I paid $299 for it. Perfect match for a 560, since it only weighs 1 lb. Have a Great Day, Denis Hall, Michigan -----Original Message----- From: Brad Burean To: Think Date: Monday, February 14, 2000 7:40 PM Subject: CD burner for my 560 >Would it be possible to put a CD burner in a docking station, and then run >it >from my 560? I can't figure out how I could do that. Thanks > > > From cph Mon Feb 14 22:37:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA25671 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:37:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18905; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:35:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:33:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18521; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:33:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18508; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.20 -> fb02.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:33:47 -0500 Received: from user-38lcdu9.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lcdu9.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.55.201]) by fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA23352; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:33:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002150333.WAA23352@fb02.eng00.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Keith @ LavaNet" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:32:19 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <003301bf76c8$1eac2c40$25fd1918@hawaii.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: USB Support List-Unsubscribe: Thanks to all who replied. The TP760XL using OSR2 (B) is now USB ready (I think) using a dual port HiVal 2 port pc card. I forgot to turn this on in TP utilities, and that helped a lot. In Add new programs, it shows: USB Supplement to OSR2 The driver version is 4.03.1214 Device Manager reports Universial Serial Bus Controller Generis USB Hub Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller USB Root Hub USB Root Hub Two glitches remain, though. An "Unknown Device" with a big yellow "!" appeared elsewere in Device Manager (could be the digital scope?) And the dam*n Win98 install software so far can'ta be coaxed to load under Win95OSR2 so as to make the scope work... Allan Ballafd On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 22:47:26 -1000, Keith @ LavaNet wrote: >--Hmm you know Allan, my pals tried that with win98 and win98SE, it was a no go. I think some of the original buggy 98 drivers would work for win95 because they were same drivers, but not for the new SE version. But if you do go with the new win98 SE version, it is much better than the initial reports of win98 though. One of my clients has the original win98 and it's a horror, auto removing programs and losing pointers all by itself. I have the win98 SE on my new Dell workstation at work and it is pretty rock solid. The only thing I don't like is the windows explorer interface, but that can be altered to look like the old win95 explorer though. Other than that, it's identical, with the nice added feature of recognizing more than 2gb of hard drive space, and summarizing it and it's free space correctly. I used to be a die hard win95 fan, but now I just wait until the second edition and I usually get impressed. Good luck either way though. > > regards, > keith > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Allan Ballard > To: Keith @ LavaNet ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 12:19 PM > Subject: Re: USB Support > > > Is there a method to draw the USB stuff off > a win98 Rom, and avoid the upgrade? > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:30:04 -1000, Keith @ LavaNet wrote: > > >--Actually I've run quite a few products with the Win95b with USB support. So long as > you have the OSR2 supplement for USB in your add/remove programs box in your > control panel, you'll do fine. A good way to go shopping is to choose a product and > email the support department of the manufacturer for details. They'll tell you if the > product has any problems working with 95b. Whatever you do, don't buy that worthless > win98 upgrade kit. I've heard horror stories of all data being lost, and a minimal of two > installs to make that kit work. Do yourself a favor, and pick up a full version of the > second edition of win98 and install fresh. Just save your data somewhere and start > fresh. Best of luck. > > > > --Keith > > Honolulu, Hawaii > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ken D'Ambrosio > > To: Allan Ballard > > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 1:04 PM > > Subject: Re: USB Support > > > > > > Your problem isn't the hardware, it's '95. Specifically, '95 doesn't > > support USB out of the box; I believe that there is stuff at the MS web > > site to get '95B running USB, but would I buy a USB product assuming that > > it'll work with '95? No. I suggest (as much as I hate to do so, for > > philisophical reasons) that you upgrade to '98. > > > > Sorry... > > > > -Ken > > > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Allan Ballard wrote: > > > > > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:19:59 -0500 (EST) > > > From: Allan Ballard > > > To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" > > > Subject: USB Support > > > > > > Help! > > > > > > I am still looking for a pc card USB port to use > > > with my TP760XL running Win95b. > > > > > > I see several for W98 -- but nada for Win95, > > > not even a driver. > > > > > > Can anyone point me to a source for a pc card > > > USB port to work on a TP under Win95? > > > > > > Allan Ballard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From cph Mon Feb 14 23:16:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA25817 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:16:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21517; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:15:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:14:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21440; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:14:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21423; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (129.10.116.51 -> amber.ccs.neu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:14:44 -0500 Received: from zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.104]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id e1F4EfH27120 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:14:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) id e1F4EfN01496; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:14:41 -0500 (EST) Sender: dnb@ccs.neu.edu To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: virus alert References: <200002150333.WAA23352@fb02.eng00.mindspring.net> From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 14 Feb 2000 23:14:41 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Allan Ballard"'s message of "Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:32:19 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 33 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 19.34 List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [mailed also to orignal infected person] I just received a message which appeared to be a response to something I posted on this list that contained an unsolicted attachment: > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="PsPGame.exe" If you get a copy of this message, this means that you have been sent a virus (Plage2000). Do not run the attachment. If you did, I would HIGHLY recommend scanning your system with an up-to-date virus scanner. For more info see: http://europe.datafellows.com/v-descs/p2000.htm http://www.cai.com/virusinfo/encyclopedia/Plage.htm Respectfully, David N. Blank-Edelman Director of Technology College of Computer Science Northeastern University -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBOKjSrTVY18Ov2TldAQEqaQP+JAzZVwk5mTYCU++Ozs9yyDf/pkv69L8M iB8GWHiAZ++yhOoOzD2LkwTnOUdxgoqUTnROY8QUiF9Gcpl3N9pcZi+n7NcdQ5xo lfA2qNUoSmIPDl0mFHlPc6lTt/orul9IzQosbiRZod7gFmZr8rlM+e/XybTRiHJ3 zKPGYbEcaIU= =pxwZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph Tue Feb 15 01:27:12 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA26504 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 01:27:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27451; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 01:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 15 Feb 2000 01:25:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27333; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 01:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.crcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27318; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 01:25:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.crcn.net (206.12.129.3 -> access.crcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 15 Feb 2000 01:25:33 -0500 X-ROUTED: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:24:30 -0800 Received: from [206.12.129.181] by mail.crcn.net with smtp id 16341684 ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:24:22 -0800 From: "Pat Presidente" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: RE: CD burner for my 560 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:19:52 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <002601bf776e$c7c445a0$92b433cf@denhall> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.3825.400 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: A friend of mine has a BackPack 4x4x4 that they use with the 560 - works great. Pat ========================================================================= Pat Presidente School District 72 (Campbell River) District Technology Resource Teacher 425 Pinecrest Road Email: pat.presidente@sd72.bc.ca Campbell River, BC V9W 3P2 Ph.(250) 830-2353 Fx.(250) 830-2329 Your door to the future ========================================================================= It's a half an inch of water and you think you're gonna drown That's the way that the world goes round - John Prine ========================================================================= -----Original Message----- From: Denis Hall [mailto:denhall@ismi.net] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 8:40 PM To: Brad Burean Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: CD burner for my 560 Hi Brad, the easy solution is to use an external cdrom writer like the BackPack 4x4x24 which can use parallel interface or PCMCIA. Personally, I use an HP PCMCIA burner which is pretty spiffy. Little, light, and fast. I paid $299 for it. Perfect match for a 560, since it only weighs 1 lb. Have a Great Day, Denis Hall, Michigan -----Original Message----- From: Brad Burean To: Think Date: Monday, February 14, 2000 7:40 PM Subject: CD burner for my 560 >Would it be possible to put a CD burner in a docking station, and then run >it >from my 560? I can't figure out how I could do that. Thanks > > > From cph Tue Feb 15 06:23:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA27291 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 06:23:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16617; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 06:20:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 15 Feb 2000 06:18:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16447; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 06:18:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16434; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 06:18:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 15 Feb 2000 06:18:13 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [172.20.2.1]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27537 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:17:54 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [172.20.1.9]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA15381 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:17:49 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:18:32 +0000 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Subject: Re: virus alert MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id GAA27292 Was it a virus or a trojan? Our firewall is supposed to splat viral attachments in emails, this one got through. - Adam ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: virus alert Author: PC:dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) at INTERNET Date: 2/15/00 4:20 AM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [mailed also to orignal infected person] I just received a message which appeared to be a response to something I posted on this list that contained an unsolicted attachment: > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="PsPGame.exe" If you get a copy of this message, this means that you have been sent a virus (Plage2000). Do not run the attachment. If you did, I would HIGHLY recommend scanning your system with an up-to-date virus scanner. For more info see: http://europe.datafellows.com/v-descs/p2000.htm http://www.cai.com/virusinfo/encyclopedia/Plage.htm Respectfully, David N. Blank-Edelman Director of Technology College of Computer Science Northeastern University -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBOKjSrTVY18Ov2TldAQEqaQP+JAzZVwk5mTYCU++Ozs9yyDf/pkv69L8M iB8GWHiAZ++yhOoOzD2LkwTnOUdxgoqUTnROY8QUiF9Gcpl3N9pcZi+n7NcdQ5xo lfA2qNUoSmIPDl0mFHlPc6lTt/orul9IzQosbiRZod7gFmZr8rlM+e/XybTRiHJ3 zKPGYbEcaIU= =pxwZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Tue Feb 15 09:00:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA27951 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:00:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26059; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:58:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25948; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25934; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:58:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (208.154.252.26 -> mail.iso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:58:03 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial44.auto-net.com [208.154.252.93]) by mail.iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA87632; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:55:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <38A906BD.8B7BFC51@iso.net> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:56:45 +0000 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Quantrill CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "David N. Blank-Edelman" Subject: Re: virus alert References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Check out for an explanation. Bill Adam Quantrill wrote: > Was it a virus or a trojan? Our firewall is supposed to splat viral attachments in emails, this one got through. From cph Tue Feb 15 09:13:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA28054 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:13:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27265; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:12:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27170; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:12:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27149; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:12:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:12:04 -0500 Received: from scigen.co.uk (pluto [172.20.2.1]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29931; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:11:24 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [172.20.1.9]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA19127; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:11:23 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:12:10 +0000 To: William Van Tuyl Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "David N. Blank-Edelman" Subject: Re[2]: virus alert MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id JAA28055 Having had a more detailed look it appears to be a Trojan. Manual intervention is needed to install it, so it isn't a worm in the strict sense (this may not apply to Outlook users though). It isn't a virus either. Interestingly Dr. Solomon's fails to spot it (at least with the current data it's using.) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: virus alert Author: MIME:William Van Tuyl at INTERNET Date: 2/15/00 1:59 PM Check out for an explanation. Bill Adam Quantrill wrote: > Was it a virus or a trojan? Our firewall is supposed to splat viral attachments in emails, this one got through. ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Tue Feb 15 12:59:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA29792 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:59:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14865; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:51:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14619; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.cableone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14606; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:51:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.cableone.net (24.116.0.57 -> mail3.cableone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:51:16 -0500 Received: from defiant ([24.116.4.140]) by mail3.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:51:11 -0700 Message-ID: <003601bf77dd$39ad4e00$8c047418@defiant> Reply-To: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" From: "Charles & Melinda McDaniel" To: "thinkpad" , "Adam Quantrill" References: Subject: Re: Re[2]: virus alert Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:51:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Yeah well this thing NAILED me this morning and it really pulled a good act on my e-mail program.. McAfee failed to spot it for some reason..but after I updated the dat files it found it right away.. this thing is really annoying .. not mention trouble some... Charles & Melinda McDaniel Charles' E-Mail CMcDaniel@cableone.net Melinda's E-Mail SMcDaniel@cableone.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Quantrill" To: "William Van Tuyl" Cc: ; "David N. Blank-Edelman" Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 8:12 AM Subject: Re[2]: virus alert Having had a more detailed look it appears to be a Trojan. Manual intervention is needed to install it, so it isn't a worm in the strict sense (this may not apply to Outlook users though). It isn't a virus either. Interestingly Dr. Solomon's fails to spot it (at least with the current data it's using.) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: virus alert Author: MIME:William Van Tuyl at INTERNET Date: 2/15/00 1:59 PM Check out for an explanation. Bill Adam Quantrill wrote: > Was it a virus or a trojan? Our firewall is supposed to splat viral attachments in emails, this one got through. ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Tue Feb 15 13:38:26 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA30129 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:38:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18351; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:30:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18204; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:30:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18183; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:30:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (208.154.252.26 -> mail.iso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:30:42 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial37.auto-net.com [208.154.252.86]) by mail.iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA97656; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:28:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <38A946BE.DA544382@iso.net> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:29:53 +0000 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: virus alert - Plage2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: New virus alert: This is from and is being reported as hitting. Virus Name W32/Plage.worm Date Added 1/13/00 Virus Characteristics This is an Internet worm which can autoreply to unread email messages of MAPI installed email clients. The autoreply message contains a brief note along with an attachment of random EXE names. The email message will be replied to in Unix-style format such as the example below: Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 12:08 PM To: SMTP:sender@domain.com Subject: Re: original subject line 'Lastname, Firstname' wrote: ==== - - - ==== P2000 Mail auto-reply: ' I'll try to reply as soon as possible. Take a look to the attachment and send me your opinion! ' > Get your FREE P2000 Mail now! < The attachment is any of the following names: billgt.exe card.exe docs.exe fun.exe hamster.exe humor.exe images.exe joke.exe midsong.exe news_doc.exe pics.exe PsPGame.exe searchURL.exe SETUP.EXE s3msong.exe tamagotxi.exe The size of the file is 102,400 bytes and has an icon similar to PKLite self extracting, very similar to W32/ExploreZip.worm. There is one noticeable difference however in that this worm was not witnessed to have removed files from the system. When the attachment is executed, it will give a phony error message and then install itself on Windows 9x and NT systems. In Windows 9x, it copies itself to the Windows folder as "INETD.EXE" and modify the WIN.INI to load at next Windows startup. In Windows NT, the worm creates a key in the registry: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows] "run"="Inetd" Strings within the EXE suggest it was coded by a member of the virus group 29A. From cph Wed Feb 16 11:55:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA05323 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:55:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21160; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:53:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:50:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20843; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from phnxpop4.phnx.uswest.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20825; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:50:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from phnxpop4.phnx.uswest.net (206.80.192.4 -> phnxpop4.phnx.uswest.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:50:18 -0500 Received: (qmail 8114 invoked by alias); 16 Feb 2000 16:50:12 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 8098 invoked by uid 0); 16 Feb 2000 16:50:12 -0000 Received: from aldialup149.phnx.uswest.net (63.225.201.149) by phnxpop4.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 16 Feb 2000 16:50:12 -0000 From: Ted Wiseman To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 240 battery Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:50:09 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.6/32.525 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id LAA05324 Does anyone on the list have experience using the extended-life battery (6 cell) for the Thinkpad 240? If so, is it worth the price (around $200)? How much usage time on average, and how much weight does it add? Thanks for any comments. From cph Wed Feb 16 19:40:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA09464 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:40:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03072; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:39:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:36:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02878; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:36:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from newman.myriad.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02865; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:36:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from newman.myriad.net (204.57.67.6 -> mail.myriad.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:36:51 -0500 Received: from pylos (TL2-406.tca.net [208.162.121.151]) by newman.myriad.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA14337 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:35:42 -0600 Message-ID: <001501bf78df$6d339380$9779a2d0@tca.net> From: "Paul Remlinger" To: Subject: Recommended Video Capture Device for ThinkPad? Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:39:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I own a ThinkPad 385XD and recently I purchased a digital camcorder at a local retail store in my hometown. I really would like to be able to edit some of my videos on my thinkpad. I've been looking for a video capture device that I could use with my laptop. Do any of you have any recommendations? Anyone currently doing this with their thinkpad? I've read about the Dazzle Digital Video Creator (USB or parallel port versions) at www.dazzle.com and the Studio MP10 (parallel port) at www.pinnaclesys.com . Also, I've noticed that Belkin and Nogatech sell a USB video bus cable. Anyone have any experience with these devices? Thanks. Paul Remlinger From cph Wed Feb 16 20:16:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA09770 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:16:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05237; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:13:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:13:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05159; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:13:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05146; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:13:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:13:19 -0500 Received: from user-38lc41i.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lc41i.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.16.50]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA08277; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:13:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002170113.UAA08277@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Paul Remlinger" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:11:57 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <001501bf78df$6d339380$9779a2d0@tca.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Recommended Video Capture Device for ThinkPad? List-Unsubscribe: you can pick up a 760CD dirt cheap, add a large drive, and voila. the 760cd has the ports. move your product yo the 385xd via ir. On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:39:14 -0600, Paul Remlinger wrote: >I own a ThinkPad 385XD and recently I purchased a digital camcorder at a >local retail store >in my hometown. I really would like to be able to edit some of my videos on >my thinkpad. >I've been looking for a video capture device that I could use with my >laptop. Do any of you >have any recommendations? Anyone currently doing this with their thinkpad? > >I've read about the Dazzle Digital Video Creator (USB or parallel port >versions) at www.dazzle.com >and the Studio MP10 (parallel port) at www.pinnaclesys.com . Also, I've >noticed that Belkin and >Nogatech sell a USB video bus cable. Anyone have any experience with these >devices? > >Thanks. > >Paul Remlinger > > From cph Thu Feb 17 15:43:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA16149 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:43:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10168; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:41:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:35:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09545; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:35:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09522; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.37 -> mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:35:29 -0500 Received: from worldnet.att.net ([12.72.54.234]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with ESMTP id <20000217203522.BCRO26879@worldnet.att.net> for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:35:22 +0000 Message-ID: <38AC5C1A.533AFB3C@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:37:46 -0800 From: Frank Janik Reply-To: f.s.janik@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-WNS2.5 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: From cph Thu Feb 17 17:19:00 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA16943 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:19:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18779; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:17:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:16:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18602; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:16:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18587; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:16:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (216.33.241.109 -> f109.law8.hotmail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:16:07 -0500 Received: (qmail 17995 invoked by uid 0); 17 Feb 2000 22:16:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20000217221605.17994.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.204.210.200 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:16:05 PST X-Originating-IP: [152.204.210.200] From: "Noah Appley" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:16:05 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cph Thu Feb 17 20:08:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA18115 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:08:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29227; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:06:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29095; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ntserver2.invention-machine.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29082; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:06:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ntserver2.invention-machine.com (12.30.60.66) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:06:02 -0500 Received: from alexkirkovsky (1Cust249.tnt4.bos2.da.uu.net [63.22.97.249]) by ntserver2.invention-machine.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 1HBLH101; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:53:35 -0500 Message-ID: <002201bf79ac$46091780$f961163f@alexkirkovsky> Reply-To: "Alex Kirkovsky" From: "Alex Kirkovsky" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: 18GB drive for TP570 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:05:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01BF7982.5BFD4EA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BF7982.5BFD4EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everybody, I want to buy the 18GB drive for my TP570. 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Hi everybody,
 
I want to buy the 18GB drive for my = TP570.
Does someone have troubles with it?

Regards,
Alex Kirkovsky
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BF7982.5BFD4EA0-- From cph Thu Feb 17 20:56:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA18437 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:56:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01808; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:54:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:53:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01729; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:53:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01715; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:53:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (206.184.139.15 -> proxy4.ba.best.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:53:41 -0500 Received: from dgoldman (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id RAA23537; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:50:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.1.20000217174825.00bebb90@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:50:02 -0800 To: "Noah Appley" , "Frank Janik" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <20000217221605.17994.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: To unsubscribe, you must not only send a message with the subject being 'unsubscribe' (without the quotes), but you must also send it to the proper address (which is DIFFERENT from the normal address used for messages. So, either send a message as follows: TO: thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu SUBJECT: unsubscribe or click on the link below: List-Unsubscribe: ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:42:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12865; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:33:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:30:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12695; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:30:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from jpusa1.chi.il.us (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12682; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from jpusa1.chi.il.us (216.80.26.177 -> jpusa-1.soho.enteract.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:30:57 -0500 Received: (from stu@localhost) by jpusa1.chi.il.us (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00120 for THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 05:30:55 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:30:54 -0600 From: Stu Heiss To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 18GB drive for TP570 Message-ID: <20000217233054.A22@jpusa1.jpusa.net> References: <002201bf79ac$46091780$f961163f@alexkirkovsky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <002201bf79ac$46091780$f961163f@alexkirkovsky>; from alex_kirkovsky@invention-machine.com on Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 08:05:38PM -0500 List-Unsubscribe: Thus spake Alex Kirkovsky (alex_kirkovsky@invention-machine.com): > Hi everybody, > > I want to buy the 18GB drive for my TP570. > Does someone have troubles with it? I just put one in my 600. Works great with windows. I haven't been able to load linux on it yet. I can't figure out the c/h/s numbers and no utility that I've tried can either. From cph Fri Feb 18 01:22:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA19759 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:22:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14707; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:19:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14604; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:19:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.crcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14591; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:19:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.crcn.net (206.12.129.3 -> access.crcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:19:47 -0500 X-ROUTED: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:18:52 -0800 Received: from [206.12.129.181] by mail.crcn.net with smtp id 16072b84 ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:18:42 -0800 From: "Pat Presidente" To: "Stu Heiss" , Subject: RE: 18GB drive for TP570 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:14:00 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.3825.400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20000217233054.A22@jpusa1.jpusa.net> List-Unsubscribe: Where did you get your drive - and for how much? Thanks for the help Pat ========================================================================= Pat Presidente School District 72 (Campbell River) District Technology Resource Teacher 425 Pinecrest Road Email: pat.presidente@sd72.bc.ca Campbell River, BC V9W 3P2 Ph.(250) 830-2353 Fx.(250) 830-2329 Your door to the future ========================================================================= It's a half an inch of water and you think you're gonna drown That's the way that the world goes round - John Prine ========================================================================= -----Original Message----- From: Stu Heiss [mailto:stu@jpusa1.chi.il.us] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 9:31 PM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 18GB drive for TP570 Thus spake Alex Kirkovsky (alex_kirkovsky@invention-machine.com): > Hi everybody, > > I want to buy the 18GB drive for my TP570. > Does someone have troubles with it? I just put one in my 600. Works great with windows. I haven't been able to load linux on it yet. I can't figure out the c/h/s numbers and no utility that I've tried can either. From cph Fri Feb 18 01:29:17 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA19783 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:29:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15170; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:26:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:26:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15084; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:26:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from demai02.mw.mediaone.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15071; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:26:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from demai02.mw.mediaone.net (24.131.1.20 -> demai02.mw.mediaone.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:26:20 -0500 Received: from windows (nic-30-c92-210.mw.mediaone.net [24.30.92.210]) by demai02.mw.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA29925 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:23:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001001bf79d9$230a3980$d25c1e18@mw.mediaone.net> From: "Starr" To: Subject: TP600X Hot/Warm Swap Driver Problem Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:26:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Device Mgr shows the ThinkPad Ultra Bay Hot/Warm Swap Driver is not installed. Checking under Properties:General:Device status > "This device is not working properly because the file (ibmbay.vxd) that loads the drivers for this device is bad (Code 8)" It says to update the driver to fix the problem. I have updated the driver a couple times from the Hot/Warm Swap Driver CD - same problem persists. Any suggestions??? Allan Starr From cph Fri Feb 18 02:40:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA20018 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:40:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17793; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:38:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17684; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:38:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17670; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:38:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:38:10 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p04.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.19]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA29351 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:35:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200002180735.XAA29351@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:34:58 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Think 701C/CS List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:18:21 -0500 (EST), Allan Ballard wrote: >I thought writing to uncached memory was always >faster than writing to a disk swapper file? It is, but if you had a choice, would you rather write to the disk, or to memory? If you do a lot of disk swapping, the payoff is big. Just my 2 cents. From cph Fri Feb 18 02:50:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA20049 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:50:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18450; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:47:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:47:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18362; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:47:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18349; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:47:49 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p04.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.19]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA29611; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:44:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200002180744.XAA29611@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Kaste" Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:44:38 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: need Thinkpad parts List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:28:01 -0500, Kaste wrote: >I know there is no chip there because I removed the cover and there wasn't >anything there. Underneath the keyboard, right above where you inset the >chip, there is a little picture showing the chip and how to insert it. > Are you sure this isn't the memory expansion board you're referring to? From cph Fri Feb 18 02:51:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA20069 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:51:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18711; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:49:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:49:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18599; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18586; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:49:44 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p04.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.19]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA29667; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:46:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200002180746.XAA29667@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "Kaste" Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:46:33 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: need Thinkpad parts List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 22:08:02 -0500, Kaste wrote: >OK, I have just talked to a friend and now I understand what everyone here >is talking about. > >I ran the test and I have a DSP. > >I also found that one IBM's web site, but there is no drivers for it, does >anyone have drivers for a Mwave DSP for a 760C???Please... I am running >windows98 Use the drives for a 760E/ED/L/LD. Should all be the same. Paul From cph Fri Feb 18 02:57:15 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA20087 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:57:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19167; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:55:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:55:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19088; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19075; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie-inet.loop.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:55:15 -0500 Received: from TP760 (p04.hwts21.loop.net [207.211.65.19]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA29823 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:52:23 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:52:23 -0800 (PST) Resent-Message-Id: <200002180752.XAA29823@stevie.loop.com> Message-Id: <200002180752.XAA29823@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" Resent-From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" X-Original-To: "Donald Mak" Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:51:38 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2128) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Win 2000 List-Unsubscribe: --Original Message Text--- From: Donald Mak Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:57:13 -0500 I installed Win2000 on my TP and must write that this is the first MS OS that I like. I did notice that resuming from standby, if the harddrive password is set the screen comes up blank and you have to key in the password hoping that you don't get it wrong... Does Win2000 support DVD playback??? Suppoesedly it does, I have yet to try it. Plus you've got way better APM support, ACPI, USB, PnP (if it ever works), easier DUN, etc. I've been running RC2 for about 5 months now, and can't wait to get my copy of the released product. From cph Fri Feb 18 08:48:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA21359 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:48:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13052; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:46:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:45:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12920; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:45:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12906; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:45:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (147.225.51.39 -> mosquito.ny.ans.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:45:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (bkomar@localhost) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id IAA11861; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:45:37 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mosquito.ny.ans.net: bkomar owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:45:37 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: Noah Appley cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <20000217221605.17994.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Noah Appley wrote: > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > In order to List-Unsubscribe: mailto:thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Subject=unsubscribe Have a nice day, Bruce Komar From cph Fri Feb 18 10:24:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA21892 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:24:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22580; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:22:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:21:22 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22334; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:21:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:21:21 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id KAA28884 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pollux.iue.it (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14154; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:02:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pollux.iue.it (149.139.13.251 -> pollux.iue.it) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:02:17 -0500 Received: from iue.it (pc3610.iue.it [149.139.6.65]) by pollux.iue.it (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA20961 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:02:48 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38AD50CE.17164632@iue.it> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:01:50 +0100 From: Peter Wennersten X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: a bit closer but still no cigar (was: CD recovery not working) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Dear all, I have now reformatted the harddrive and have finally managed to find a friend with standard WIN98 install-CD. After many freezes during install I have a working WIN98. But I realize that this is sooo different from the way my TP 570 come preloaded. Not only all the system goodies and but also the more important system drivers and TP specific configurations. (E.g. I can only access one of the two 2 gig partitions on my HDD; the PCMCIA slot does not react when plugging in PC-card, must boot with card plugged in for driver to load; the screen cannot be set to 800x600; I have no sound; just to mention a few irritable things). So I have not given up getting the recovery CD to work, but alas, I need help for this. I hope there is still interest in the list to look at my problem... which to sum up goes something like this: Purpose: Recreating preloaded disk image. Basic problem: Have no internal CD drive. Thus cannot boot from recovery CD. Must use a recovery boot diskette in order to establish connection to external PCMCIA CD drive and then recover from CD. However, this does not work because boot diskette only supports 3 PCMCIA CD drives and mine is not among them. Booting from regular boot diskette and loading DOS drivers for my CD works, but from then on there is no executable file on the recovery CD that I can run in order to start the recovery process. I seem to be dependent on the shell that is loaded when booting from the recovery diskette. So I have tried faking support for my CD drive by exchanging the drivers for the supported CD drives and putting my driver in their stead. This yields no result, not even error messages (upon loading the driver the CD drive starts spinning but this is just warming-up, after a few seconds it relaxes and nothing else happens). I don't know if I have to change any settings. This seems difficult though as the whole recovery process is embedded in the IBM shell and I cannot edit the executables that are part of this shell. The closest I have gotten was when I simply used the driver for one of the supported CD drives. Then the shell programme continued and prompted me to insert bootable CD in CD drive and click enter. So I did but I got a "CDR101: error reading drive Z". But I have no clue what to do next. No one around me uses a PCMCIA CD drive that is supported which I can borrow. It seems to the layman that I need to pick apart the files/shell on the recovery CD in order to make further changes to the shell programme. Can this be done? Can I download some shareware for this purpose? Or does anyone with programming skills feel like having a look at it? I also tried copying the lot from the recovery CD to C: but how do I fool the machine to boot from the catalogue with the recovery CD content and not starting loading Windows as usual? As ever, very grateful to everyone who takes an interest in helping me out. /Peter -- Peter Wennersten Researcher in the Dept. of Social & Political Sciences European University Institute From cph Fri Feb 18 10:38:55 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA21942 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:38:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23924; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:36:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23838; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:36:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23825; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:36:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (150.203.2.15 -> leonard.anu.edu.au) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:36:45 -0500 Received: (from e720084@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA01419; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 02:36:41 +1100 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 02:36:40 +1100 (EST) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: new thinkpads Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: any idea as to when the replacements for the tp760 series will be announced? i would have expected this last november but i suppose concern about y2k etc has slowed this down. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 2 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From cph Fri Feb 18 11:39:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA22441 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:39:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29282; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:38:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:37:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29111; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:37:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29098; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (24.137.12.3) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:37:17 -0500 Received: from CEL400 (24.137.23.43) by orion.planetcable.net (Worldmail 1.3.167); 18 Feb 2000 11:34:05 -0500 Message-ID: <008501bf7a2e$ebc05d00$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> From: "Slip" To: "Alden S Klovdahl" , References: Subject: Re: new thinkpads Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:40:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: >any idea as to when the replacements for the tp760 series will be announced? Whoa, I must have been asleep! What's with the 'replacements'? I own a 760ED and love it so this sounds like something of interest. Are they just a similar model? Thanks -Jamie From cph Fri Feb 18 12:00:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA22553 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:00:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01035; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:58:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:58:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00961; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:58:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00943; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (24.137.12.3) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:58:11 -0500 Received: from CEL400 (24.137.23.43) by orion.planetcable.net (Worldmail 1.3.167) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; 18 Feb 2000 11:55:11 -0500 Message-ID: <008e01bf7a31$de5ebc80$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: [760ED] Suspend problems in Win98SE Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:01:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008B_01BF7A07.F4AE8120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01BF7A07.F4AE8120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, I'v had Win98SE installed on my 760ED for a while now and never = really bothered to try and solve this little problem. I'd like to know = why I can't suspend in Win98SE. When I try to do the 'FN-F4', it just = beeps at me. I have problems with hybernating as well. I deleted and = then re-created the hibernation file, with no luck. I own a PCMCIA = 10/100NIC, but neither suspend nor hibernate will work with it = removed(or in for that matter). Any ideas? Thanks! -Jamie "To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing which makes us = human" ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01BF7A07.F4AE8120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi there,
    I'v had Win98SE = installed on my=20 760ED for a while now and never really bothered to try and solve this = little=20 problem. I'd like to know why I can't suspend in Win98SE. When I try to = do the=20 'FN-F4', it just beeps at me. I have problems with hybernating as well. = I=20 deleted and then re-created the hibernation file, with no luck. I own a = PCMCIA=20 10/100NIC, but neither suspend nor hibernate will work with it = removed(or in for=20 that matter). Any ideas?
 
Thanks!
-Jamie
"To deny our own impulses is to deny = the very thing=20 which makes us human"
------=_NextPart_000_008B_01BF7A07.F4AE8120-- From cph Fri Feb 18 14:05:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA23533 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:05:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13839; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:02:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13717; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0s.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13703; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:02:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0s.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.48 -> www0s.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:02:17 -0500 Received: (qmail 13270 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Feb 2000 19:02:16 -0000 Message-ID: <20000218190216.13269.qmail@www0s.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.48 by www0s for [4.17.135.26] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Fri Feb 18 19:02:16 GMT 2000 Date: 18 Feb 00 13:02:16 CST From: Rob Bell To: Peter Wennersten , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: a bit closer but still no cigar (was: CD recovery not working) X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id OAA23534 Peter, Almost everything that came preloaded on your ThinkPad should be downloadable >from the IBM support web site (www.pc.ibm.com/support). Set up a support profile for yourself and your machine, then look for something called the 'device driver file matrix'. There you'll find the latest drivers for audio, video, PCMCIA, UltraBay, etc. >From the sound of your message, it seems that those things are what you're looking for to get your machine fully functional. Good luck, Rob Peter Wennersten wrote: > Dear all, > > I have now reformatted the harddrive and have finally managed to find a > friend with standard WIN98 install-CD. After many freezes during install > I have a working WIN98. > > But I realize that this is sooo different from the way my TP 570 come > preloaded. Not only all the system goodies and but also the more > important system drivers and TP specific configurations. (E.g. I can > only access one of the two 2 gig > partitions on my HDD; the PCMCIA slot does not react when plugging in > PC-card, must boot with card plugged in for driver to load; the screen > cannot be set to 800x600; I have no sound; just to mention a few > irritable things). [snip] ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Fri Feb 18 14:14:15 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA23589 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:14:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14859; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:12:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14754; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:12:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.mailstart.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14731; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:12:33 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mail.mailstart.com (207.231.76.67 -> mail.mailstart.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:12:33 -0500 Received: from brown [207.231.76.31] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A99F5E200D6; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:12:31 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu CC: Subject: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 Message-Id: <18020049.40351@153.113.3.3> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:12:33 -0800 List-Unsubscribe: While Windows 2000 installs on a 770 (P5-233mmx) with no problems there appears to be compatibility problem with the hard disk. Interspersed with the normal disk access the drive appears to be resetting periodically. The symptom presents as the heads unloading followed by reloading and a short head sweep. I have tried the most recent BIOS, as well as older BIOS versions, with identical results. In addition I have tried setting the IDE driver for PIO and even turned off APM. Does anyone have any ideas? How about results from installation of Win2000 on the same platform? Note that this is the original 770 (no X or Z, etc). ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! From cph Fri Feb 18 14:54:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA23866 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:54:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18029; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:52:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:51:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17933; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from acunet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17919; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from acunet.net (208.203.130.2) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:51:35 -0500 Received: from xpool19.acunet.net (xpool19.acunet.net [208.208.7.19]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA32084 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:51:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002181951.OAA32084@acunet.net> From: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:53:43 -0500 Reply-To: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:12:33 -0800, stratmoen@home.com wrote: > >While Windows 2000 installs on a 770 (P5-233mmx) with no problems >there appears to be compatibility problem with the hard disk. >Interspersed with the normal disk access the drive appears to >be resetting periodically. The symptom presents as the heads >unloading followed by reloading and a short head sweep. I've got a Thinkpad 770 and gave Win2000 RC2 a try on a spare HD. My guess is that what you are seeing is the lazy writing of the cache to the hard drive. With lazy writing, not all data is written to the hard drive immediately. It is kept in memory for some short period and then written to the hard drive when either the data's time limit in memory has expired or the memory cache has filled. Lazy writing lets you get better performance under load because you can continue to read needed data from the hard drive while delaying the writing to a time when the reading has finished. The bad thing is if you lose power before the lazy writes to the drive are done you lose that data not yet written to disk. I can't be sure this is what you are seeing. I haven't spent much time with Win2000 as I continue to do most of my work with OS/2. I do know that under OS/2 I can set the size of this cache and the max delay before it gets written to disk. I can even opt to turn lazy caching off to force more immediate writes to the disk. I'm not sure how one would do this under Win2000. Maybe someone with more Windows experience can answer that. > >I have tried the most recent BIOS, as well as older BIOS versions, >with identical results. In addition I have tried setting the >IDE driver for PIO and even turned off APM. APM would have been my first guess too. > >Does anyone have any ideas? How about results from installation >of Win2000 on the same platform? Note that this is the original >770 (no X or Z, etc). Same thing here. Regular 770 with Win2000 RC2 on a 4 GB Apricorn HD. Jeff From cph Fri Feb 18 15:09:11 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA24032 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:09:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19855; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:07:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19456; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:07:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19419; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:07:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (206.31.56.7 -> main.ismi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:07:06 -0500 Received: from denhall (tc1-28.ismi.net [207.51.180.33]) by main.ismi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA13604; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:07:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <018e01bf7a54$dd6fdac0$21b433cf@denhall> From: "Denis Hall" To: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" , "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:12:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: There is a possible issue with the 5GB OBI drive on the 770. I'm having a pain of a time playing with the recovery disk on my 9549-1au 770 which has the 5gb drive. The IBM site confirms a BIOS problem in this drive. Perhaps Win2000 is also a problem for the drive... I will now yield to the greater wisdom of more informed Drive experts ( Bill Morrow?)... Denis Hall, Michigan -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey D Grinnell To: ThinkPad List Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 1:52 PM Subject: Re: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 >On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:12:33 -0800, stratmoen@home.com wrote: > >> >>While Windows 2000 installs on a 770 (P5-233mmx) with no problems >>there appears to be compatibility problem with the hard disk. >>Interspersed with the normal disk access the drive appears to >>be resetting periodically. The symptom presents as the heads >>unloading followed by reloading and a short head sweep. > >I've got a Thinkpad 770 and gave Win2000 RC2 a try on a spare HD. My >guess is that what you are seeing is the lazy writing of the cache to >the hard drive. With lazy writing, not all data is written to the hard >drive immediately. It is kept in memory for some short period and then >written to the hard drive when either the data's time limit in memory >has expired or the memory cache has filled. > >Lazy writing lets you get better performance under load because you can >continue to read needed data from the hard drive while delaying the >writing to a time when the reading has finished. The bad thing is if >you lose power before the lazy writes to the drive are done you lose >that data not yet written to disk. > >I can't be sure this is what you are seeing. I haven't spent much time >with Win2000 as I continue to do most of my work with OS/2. I do know >that under OS/2 I can set the size of this cache and the max delay >before it gets written to disk. I can even opt to turn lazy caching >off to force more immediate writes to the disk. I'm not sure how one >would do this under Win2000. Maybe someone with more Windows >experience can answer that. > >> >>I have tried the most recent BIOS, as well as older BIOS versions, >>with identical results. In addition I have tried setting the >>IDE driver for PIO and even turned off APM. > >APM would have been my first guess too. > >> >>Does anyone have any ideas? How about results from installation >>of Win2000 on the same platform? Note that this is the original >>770 (no X or Z, etc). > >Same thing here. Regular 770 with Win2000 RC2 on a 4 GB Apricorn HD. > >Jeff > > From cph Fri Feb 18 16:42:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA24781 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:42:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29465; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:38:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29210; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:38:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29152; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:38:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (130.18.80.10 -> Ra.MsState.Edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:38:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (skl2@localhost); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/MsState-Ra/evision: 1.15 $) with ESMTP; id PAA04347 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:38:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:38:10 -0600 (CST) From: See K Lam To: Thinkpad List Subject: tp760xd:looking for new keyboard In-Reply-To: <008e01bf7a31$de5ebc80$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: hi... i just got a tp760xd from ebay and it needs a new keyboard ....some of the keys r not that responsive. so where can i find a cheap new tp760xd keyboard? thanks. seekit From cph Fri Feb 18 16:46:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA24829 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:46:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29904; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:44:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29829; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:44:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29809; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:44:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.37 -> mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:44:36 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.19.233]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000218214429.USXM26879@compaq>; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:44:29 +0000 Message-ID: <38ADBD2F.6F17@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:44:15 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: See K Lam CC: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: tp760xd:looking for new keyboard References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Most 760XD's should still be under warranty. Check with IBM! See K Lam wrote: > > hi... i just got a tp760xd from ebay and it needs a new keyboard > ....some of the keys r not that responsive. > > so where can i find a cheap new tp760xd keyboard? > > thanks. > > seekit From cph Fri Feb 18 16:49:33 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA24860 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:49:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00498; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:47:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:47:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00420; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:47:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00406; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (142.90.100.150 -> trmail.Triumf.CA) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:47:49 -0500 Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA [142.90.120.3]) by trmail.triumf.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA00512 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:47:47 -0800 Message-ID: <028701bf7a5b$adad6da0$03785a8e@pmachule> From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: Subject: Can't upgrade 810MB HD to 4.3GB HD Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:01:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: I'm replacing the 810Mb (DSOA-20810) Hard Drives in a number of our Thinkpad 760E /760XL 's with a new IBM DKLA-24320 (4320 MB). It does not work . The HD spins up but the Thinkpad does not see it in the BIOS. i.e.. the Drive Icon is grayed out. The Thinkpad 760XL has the latest Bios . According to IBM's PDF files , both drives are the same from a pinout point of view. http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/table.htm The 4.3GB tests fine with an adapter in a desktop . The (810 MB ) caddy in question is a 29H9366 , 29H9315 ,29H9316. The cable used is a P/N 29H9422 . To completely confuse the issue, the 4.3GB HD works with the caddy from a IBM 2.1GB (DCRA-22110 ). This caddy is a: 82H8489 ( FRU) , 82H8490 (ASM) , 82H8495. The cable used in this one is P/N 82H5536. Unfortunately I can not use this caddy since it is too high for the 760E's . Also, I only have one . The Thinkpad division has issued a case number , but I hoped you folks would have a better idea. CASE # 14634851 Peter Machule Engineering Research TRIUMF -UBC machule@triumf.ca From cph Fri Feb 18 16:59:10 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA24936 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:59:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01503; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:57:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:57:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01399; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01386; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.com (206.180.224.3 -> tdl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:57:29 -0500 Received: from chuck (pm1i-214.tdl.com [206.180.234.214]) by tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03012 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:57:27 -0800 Message-Id: <200002182157.NAA03012@tdl.com> From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: Thinkpad List Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:57:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Newbie to DVD Question re TP600 Reply-to: cblaisd@tdl.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id QAA24937 Re: this Thinkpad IBM ThinkPad 600E w/ Intel® Pentium® II Processor 400MHz, 64MB, 10GB HD, DVD, 56K, and 13.3" TFT # 2645-5BU I don't know anything about DVD. Will this TP be able to play DVD movies "out of the box"? Thanks. From cph Fri Feb 18 18:03:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA25469 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:03:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07299; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:01:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:00:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07196; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:00:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07182; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:00:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (140.142.70.24 -> jason01.u.washington.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:00:53 -0500 Received: from dante27.u.washington.edu (williams@dante27.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.82]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id PAA41216 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:00:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (williams@localhost) by dante27.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA101384 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:00:50 -0800 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:00:49 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Williams" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Network Adapter Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I just installed 128mb in my Thinkpad 770ED for a total of 192mb (Win 95 OSR2) . Now it gives an error message for my Intel Lan+Modem (Pro/100 Cardbus). I looked under system resources and it says: IRQ 11 Memory Range 04200000 - 04200FFF 04100000 - 041FFFFF I/O Range 0180 - 01BF Use automatic settings (Checked) Conflicting Device list: Range 0420000 - 04200FFF used buy TI Cardbus controller 0420000 - 04200FFF used by Motherboard resources (and the same for 041... and for I/O Range) How do I get the card to work? Thanks, John From cph Fri Feb 18 18:08:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA25502 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:08:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07968; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:06:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07890; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:06:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07870; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:06:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (24.2.1.66 -> ha1.rdc1.il.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:06:16 -0500 Received: from c137335b ([24.17.39.54]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <20000218230558.OPOP482.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@c137335b> for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:05:58 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Scott A. Stratmoen" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:05:47 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <200002181951.OAA32084@acunet.net> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Same thing here. Regular 770 with Win2000 RC2 on a 4 GB Apricorn HD. All things point to an compatibility problem between the drive and Windows 2000's IDE driver. The drive appears to be randomly resetting based upon the fact that the heads are unloading. It's not a deferred write from the cache. From cph Fri Feb 18 18:34:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA25702 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:34:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09599; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:33:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09512; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from acunet.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09499; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from acunet.net (208.203.130.2) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:33:11 -0500 Received: from xpool84.acunet.net (xpool84.acunet.net [208.208.7.84]) by acunet.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA10069 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:33:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002182333.SAA10069@acunet.net> From: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:35:20 -0500 Reply-To: "Jeffrey D Grinnell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:05:47 -0600, Scott A. Stratmoen wrote: > >All things point to an compatibility problem between the drive and Windows >2000's IDE driver. The drive appears to be randomly resetting based upon the >fact that the heads are unloading. It's not a deferred write from the cache. OK, perhaps I misunderstood what you were describing when you stated that the heads were unloading and then reloading followed by a short head sweep. I myself have only noticed the regular cache writing delay. I booted it just earlier today to check. I didn't see the effect you are describing, but then I didn't play with it very long. Can you try describing your problem again. What are the symptoms? What do you mean by the drive randomly resetting? Are you saying that you can't access the drive after this occurs? What version of Win2000 are you running? What kind of HD are we talking about? Another poster mentions a possible issue with the 5GB drive. My 770came with an IBM labeled 5.1GB drive, but I've got my installation of Win2000 RC2 on a seperate 4GB Apricorn drive. I may have just been lucky in not installing Win2000 on the orignial drive. I'm wondering what is different about your setup and mine. Given how often MS was touting improved laptop support with Win2000 I'm surprised they stumbled on something as basic (and necessary) as the IDE drivers. Best wishes on finding a solution. Jeff From cph Fri Feb 18 18:41:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA25752 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:41:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10201; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:39:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:39:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10127; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:39:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwcst268.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10113; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwcst268.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.23.13 -> wwcst268.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:39:36 -0500 Received: (qmail 13398 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Feb 2000 23:39:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20000218233934.13397.qmail@nwcst268.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.13 by wwcst268 for [24.25.112.96] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Fri Feb 18 23:39:34 GMT 2000 Date: 18 Feb 00 17:39:34 CST From: Rob Bell To: , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id SAA25753 I've installed several flavors of W2K on a 770 like yours. The latest installation, W2K final release, installed fine on a 6GB drive. I haven't used it extensively, but I didn't notice the noises you mentioned. I did nothing above and beyond the standard W2K install other than the BIOS upgrade. Rob wrote: > > While Windows 2000 installs on a 770 (P5-233mmx) with no problems > there appears to be compatibility problem with the hard disk. > Interspersed with the normal disk access the drive appears to > be resetting periodically. The symptom presents as the heads > unloading followed by reloading and a short head sweep. > > I have tried the most recent BIOS, as well as older BIOS versions, > with identical results. In addition I have tried setting the > IDE driver for PIO and even turned off APM. > > Does anyone have any ideas? How about results from installation > of Win2000 on the same platform? Note that this is the original > 770 (no X or Z, etc). ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Fri Feb 18 19:07:14 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA26032 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:07:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12073; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:05:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:04:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11943; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:04:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11930; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:04:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.50) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:04:19 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.12.150]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000219000417.BRAK4489.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@compaq>; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:04:17 +0000 Message-ID: <38ADDDF2.197B@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:04:02 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cblaisd@tdl.com CC: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Newbie to DVD Question re TP600 References: <200002182157.NAA03012@tdl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id TAA12073 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id TAA26033 Yes and no. A 400 is technically fast enough to decode DVD. The downside is: 1. There is ususally a it more pixellation, due to the method of decoding, 2. There is usually an occasional "glitch", because the CPU is doing all the work, which ties up 90% of the processing power. Anything that runs in the background will cause some dropped frames. 3. Most software decoders do not have any adjustment for brightness/contrast/saturation. I don't know what video card is in the THinkPad you are interested in. The earlier ones had the NeoMagic chip, which was not really that good for software decoding. The ATI Rage chips have "motion compensation", which aids in smooth software playback. I have a COmpaq Armada P2 333 which can run software DVD ALMOST to the level of hardware, but it has the ATI card. We have had good success adding the Margi DVD to GO decoders to the 600. It provides smooth playback, brightness and gamma controls, and TV output! I sell these for $150 to list members, perhaps someone else will jump in with their experiences. Chuck Blaisdell wrote: > > Re: this Thinkpad > > IBM ThinkPad 600E w/ Intel® Pentium® II Processor 400MHz, 64MB, > 10GB HD, DVD, 56K, and 13.3" TFT > # 2645-5BU > > I don't know anything about DVD. Will this TP be able to play DVD > movies "out of the box"? > > Thanks. From cph Fri Feb 18 19:36:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA26232 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:36:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13800; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:33:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13611; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:33:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13597; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (24.2.1.66 -> ha1.rdc1.il.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:33:37 -0500 Received: from c137335b ([24.17.39.54]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <20000219003106.QHCC482.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@c137335b> for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:31:06 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Scott A. Stratmoen" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:30:56 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <200002182333.SAA10069@acunet.net> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Can you try describing your problem again. What are the symptoms? During normal drive activity the drive randomly resets. When the drive is reset it unloads the heads, reloads the heads and finally does a calibration sweep. What do you mean by the drive randomly resetting? Presents a clunk from the drive... Are you saying that you can't access the drive after this occurs? No works fine. As I said during normal activity the drive periodically resets. What version of Win2000 are you running? Pro - production release. What kind of HD are we talking about? 4GB IBM-DTCA-24090 From cph Fri Feb 18 21:00:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA26644 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:00:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18337; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:56:39 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18137; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:56:38 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id UAA02087 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:55:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10914; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.com (206.180.224.3 -> tdl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:47:42 -0500 Received: from chuck (pm1i-214.tdl.com [206.180.234.214]) by tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15118 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:47:40 -0800 Message-Id: <200002182347.PAA15118@tdl.com> From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:47:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Good price? Reply-to: cblaisd@tdl.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) List-Unsubscribe: Is $2800 a good price for IBM ThinkPad 600E w/ Intel Pentium II 400, 64MB, 10GB HD DVD, 56K, 13.3" TFT (New) # 2645-5BU >From what I can tell, seems to be. From cph Fri Feb 18 22:29:53 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA26976 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:29:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22168; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:27:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:24:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22036; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:24:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22023; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:24:53 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-248.gate.net [199.227.131.57]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA56738; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:24:48 -0500 Message-ID: <38AE0B92.438E5277@gate.net> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:18:42 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Kirkovsky CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: 18GB drive for TP570 References: <002201bf79ac$46091780$f961163f@alexkirkovsky> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------A5C0685C4A5570529385E174" List-Unsubscribe: --------------A5C0685C4A5570529385E174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it should work fine, IF you can find one.. :-) Alex Kirkovsky wrote: > Hi everybody, I want to buy the 18GB drive for my TP570.Does someone > have troubles with it? > Regards, > Alex Kirkovsky -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net --------------A5C0685C4A5570529385E174 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it should work fine, IF you can find one..  :-)

Alex Kirkovsky wrote:

Hi everybody, I want to buy the 18GB drive for my TP570.Does someone have troubles with it?
Regards,
Alex Kirkovsky
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Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
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  --------------A5C0685C4A5570529385E174-- From cph Fri Feb 18 22:34:53 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA26989 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:34:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22548; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:31:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22418; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:31:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22404; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:31:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:31:34 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-248.gate.net [199.227.131.57]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA26544; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:31:27 -0500 Message-ID: <38AE0E8C.9D4DAEC4@gate.net> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:31:24 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stratmoen@home.com CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 References: <18020049.40351@153.113.3.3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: FWIW: :-) I loaded win2000 server RC2 on a 25gig on my 770Z and noticed a lot or clinking as the heads track back out (or in).. then i put the pre-load on the same drive and no klinking.. just normal operation.. stratmoen@home.com wrote: > While Windows 2000 installs on a 770 (P5-233mmx) with no problems > there appears to be compatibility problem with the hard disk. > Interspersed with the normal disk access the drive appears to > be resetting periodically. The symptom presents as the heads > unloading followed by reloading and a short head sweep. > > I have tried the most recent BIOS, as well as older BIOS versions, > with identical results. In addition I have tried setting the > IDE driver for PIO and even turned off APM. > > Does anyone have any ideas? How about results from installation > of Win2000 on the same platform? Note that this is the original > 770 (no X or Z, etc). > > ----- > Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) > The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Fri Feb 18 22:41:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA27009 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:41:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23014; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:39:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:38:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22881; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:38:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22868; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:37:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (24.2.1.66 -> ha1.rdc1.il.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:37:57 -0500 Received: from c137335b ([24.17.39.54]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <20000219033751.TLAX482.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@c137335b>; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:37:51 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Scott A. Stratmoen" To: Cc: Subject: RE: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:37:40 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <38AE0E8C.9D4DAEC4@gate.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Ahhh...preload? Preload of win2000 from IBM? Was this a beta test load from IBM? I loaded win2000 server RC2 on a 25gig on my 770Z and noticed a lot or clinking as the heads track back out (or in).. then i put the pre-load on the same drive and no klinking.. just normal operation.. From cph Fri Feb 18 22:43:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA27017 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:43:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23283; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:41:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:40:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23118; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:40:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23096; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:40:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:40:08 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-248.gate.net [199.227.131.57]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA90560; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:40:00 -0500 Message-ID: <38AE108C.19E08F91@gate.net> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:39:57 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Denis Hall CC: Jeffrey D Grinnell , ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 References: <018e01bf7a54$dd6fdac0$21b433cf@denhall> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: duhhhh, wha..?? okok, i read this and FWIW until i see the note on the IBM site, in my experience, the 5.1gig, 17mm HDD was a solid drive.. very few problems.. i may take a 5.1gig in, in trade, and if i DO i'll try loading some stuff on it.. including the 770Z preload, and, maybe, a 770-1AU preload.. be sure the machines bios is up to date, and set the CD to be bootable, thus: 1. Floppy, 2. CD, 3. HDD... for now, look to win2000 RC2 for the kilnking and settings for the recovery CD problems.. Denis Hall wrote: > There is a possible issue with the 5GB OBI drive on the 770. I'm having a > pain of a time playing with the recovery disk on my 9549-1au 770 which has > the 5gb drive. The IBM site confirms a BIOS problem in this drive. Perhaps > Win2000 is also a problem for the drive... > I will now yield to the greater wisdom of more informed Drive experts ( Bill > Morrow?)... > > Denis Hall, Michigan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey D Grinnell > To: ThinkPad List > Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 1:52 PM > Subject: Re: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 > > >On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:12:33 -0800, stratmoen@home.com wrote: > > > >> > >>While Windows 2000 installs on a 770 (P5-233mmx) with no problems > >>there appears to be compatibility problem with the hard disk. > >>Interspersed with the normal disk access the drive appears to > >>be resetting periodically. The symptom presents as the heads > >>unloading followed by reloading and a short head sweep. > > > >I've got a Thinkpad 770 and gave Win2000 RC2 a try on a spare HD. My > >guess is that what you are seeing is the lazy writing of the cache to > >the hard drive. With lazy writing, not all data is written to the hard > >drive immediately. It is kept in memory for some short period and then > >written to the hard drive when either the data's time limit in memory > >has expired or the memory cache has filled. > > > >Lazy writing lets you get better performance under load because you can > >continue to read needed data from the hard drive while delaying the > >writing to a time when the reading has finished. The bad thing is if > >you lose power before the lazy writes to the drive are done you lose > >that data not yet written to disk. > > > >I can't be sure this is what you are seeing. I haven't spent much time > >with Win2000 as I continue to do most of my work with OS/2. I do know > >that under OS/2 I can set the size of this cache and the max delay > >before it gets written to disk. I can even opt to turn lazy caching > >off to force more immediate writes to the disk. I'm not sure how one > >would do this under Win2000. Maybe someone with more Windows > >experience can answer that. > > > >> > >>I have tried the most recent BIOS, as well as older BIOS versions, > >>with identical results. In addition I have tried setting the > >>IDE driver for PIO and even turned off APM. > > > >APM would have been my first guess too. > > > >> > >>Does anyone have any ideas? How about results from installation > >>of Win2000 on the same platform? Note that this is the original > >>770 (no X or Z, etc). > > > >Same thing here. Regular 770 with Win2000 RC2 on a 4 GB Apricorn HD. > > > >Jeff > > > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Fri Feb 18 22:44:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA27022 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:44:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23505; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:43:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:41:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23246; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:41:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23225; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:41:35 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-248.gate.net [199.227.131.57]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA39234; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:41:26 -0500 Message-ID: <38AE10DE.92A83A8A@gate.net> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:41:18 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: See K Lam CC: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: tp760xd:looking for new keyboard References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: you want a new keyboard.. IBM.. 800-388-7080.. cost, last time i bought one, $55~ See K Lam wrote: > hi... i just got a tp760xd from ebay and it needs a new keyboard > ....some of the keys r not that responsive. > > so where can i find a cheap new tp760xd keyboard? > > thanks. > > seekit -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Fri Feb 18 22:46:09 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA27029 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:46:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23725; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:43:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23453; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23403; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:43:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:43:00 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-248.gate.net [199.227.131.57]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA63456; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:42:56 -0500 Message-ID: <38AE113D.14E280AC@gate.net> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:42:53 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Can't upgrade 810MB HD to 4.3GB HD References: <028701bf7a5b$adad6da0$03785a8e@pmachule> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: This is that same old addressing issue.. either get new HDD shells, or isolate the 4 drive select pins.. :-) peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP wrote: > I'm replacing the 810Mb (DSOA-20810) Hard Drives in a number of our Thinkpad > 760E /760XL 's > with a new IBM DKLA-24320 (4320 MB). > It does not work . > The HD spins up but the Thinkpad does not see it in the BIOS. > i.e.. the Drive Icon is grayed out. > The Thinkpad 760XL has the latest Bios . > According to IBM's PDF files , both drives are the same from a pinout point > of view. > http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/table.htm > The 4.3GB tests fine with an adapter in a desktop . > > The (810 MB ) caddy in question is a > 29H9366 , 29H9315 ,29H9316. > The cable used is a P/N 29H9422 . > > To completely confuse the issue, the 4.3GB HD works with the caddy from a > IBM 2.1GB > (DCRA-22110 ). > This caddy is a: > 82H8489 ( FRU) , 82H8490 (ASM) , 82H8495. > The cable used in this one is P/N 82H5536. > Unfortunately I can not use this caddy since it is too high for the 760E's . > Also, I only have one . > > The Thinkpad division has issued a case number , > but I hoped you folks would have a better idea. > CASE # 14634851 > > Peter Machule > Engineering Research > TRIUMF -UBC > machule@triumf.ca -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Fri Feb 18 22:50:10 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA27047 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:50:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24226; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:48:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:46:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24080; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:46:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24066; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:46:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:46:49 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-248.gate.net [199.227.131.57]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA20330; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:46:45 -0500 Message-ID: <38AE1222.D5070B84@gate.net> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:46:42 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Williams" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Network Adapter References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: if it worked before, it should still work, unless: 1. bad memory, 2. incompatible memory.. if #1 is suspected, run the memory test.. pull the IBM memory (if any)... if #2 is the only remaining suspect, pull the IBM memory and try again.. there have been a few issues with IBM factory memory (when using tishiba chips) haveing timing problems with other aftermarket memory.. you mightg also want to be sure your bios is up to date, and if not, when/if you flash it, pull all the memory.. :-) "J. Williams" wrote: > Hi, > > I just installed 128mb in my Thinkpad 770ED for a total of 192mb (Win > 95 OSR2) . Now it gives an error message for my Intel Lan+Modem (Pro/100 > Cardbus). I looked under system resources and it says: > > IRQ 11 > Memory Range 04200000 - 04200FFF > 04100000 - 041FFFFF > I/O Range 0180 - 01BF > > Use automatic settings (Checked) > > Conflicting Device list: > > Range 0420000 - 04200FFF > used buy TI Cardbus controller > 0420000 - 04200FFF > used by Motherboard resources > > (and the same for 041... and for I/O Range) > > How do I get the card to work? > > Thanks, John -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Fri Feb 18 22:51:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA27059 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:51:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24484; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:49:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:48:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24262; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:48:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24245; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:48:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:48:27 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-248.gate.net [199.227.131.57]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA63374; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:48:24 -0500 Message-ID: <38AE1285.C069B4E5@gate.net> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:48:21 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stratmoen@home.com CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: OK, another FWIW comment.. using a toshiba 9mm, 12gig HDD in the 770Z, win2000 professional, RC2, it works LIKE A CHARM.. the quietest drive i have not heard in a long time.. :-) "Scott A. Stratmoen" wrote: > Same thing here. Regular 770 with Win2000 RC2 on a 4 GB Apricorn HD. > > All things point to an compatibility problem between the drive and Windows > 2000's IDE driver. The drive appears to be randomly resetting based upon the > fact that the heads are unloading. It's not a deferred write from the cache. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Fri Feb 18 23:12:26 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA27133 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 23:12:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25880; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 23:10:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 23:09:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25738; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 23:09:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25723; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 23:09:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 18 Feb 2000 23:09:11 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-229.gate.net [199.227.131.38]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA05952; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 23:08:39 -0500 Message-ID: <38AE1593.C7916CDA@gate.net> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 23:01:23 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stratmoen@home.com CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: No, preload is the recovery CD, win2k is the same stuff we all have been playing with.. beta 3, RC2 are my latest CD's... i have no inside stuff from IBM... "Scott A. Stratmoen" wrote: > Ahhh...preload? Preload of win2000 from IBM? Was this a beta test load from > IBM? > > I loaded win2000 server RC2 on a 25gig on my 770Z and noticed a lot or > clinking as the heads track back out (or in).. > then i put the pre-load on the same drive and no klinking.. just normal > operation.. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sat Feb 19 00:22:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA27457 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:22:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29011; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:18:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28832; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:18:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0l.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28815; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:18:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0l.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.41 -> www0l.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:18:35 -0500 Received: (qmail 17136 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Feb 2000 05:18:30 -0000 Message-ID: <20000219051830.17135.qmail@www0l.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.41 by www0l for [24.25.115.161] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Sat Feb 19 05:18:30 GMT 2000 Date: 18 Feb 00 23:18:30 CST From: Rob Bell To: cblaisd@tdl.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Good price? X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id AAA27458 "Chuck Blaisdell" wrote: > Is $2800 a good price for > > IBM ThinkPad 600E w/ Intel Pentium II 400, 64MB, 10GB HD DVD, 56K, > 13.3" TFT (New) > # 2645-5BU > > From what I can tell, seems to be. I would say no, it's no bargain. I purchased a new 600E (PII-366, 10GB, 128MB, CD-ROM, 13.3" TFT, 3Com 10/100 Ethernet) for $2175 in December. Granted, I got it on Ebay, but it was a new unit from an authorized reseller that just happened to be quitting business. At the time, numerous similar new and used units were selling for close to that on Ebay. I think you'll find that with the recent release of mobile processors at 650MHz (and up), a "last generation" 600E like you describe will sell for closer to $2000. Do some more research on your own, both with auction sites and resellers to check more closely. HTH, Rob ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Sat Feb 19 03:09:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA28008 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 03:09:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04511; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 03:07:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 19 Feb 2000 03:05:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04261; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 03:05:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04247; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 03:05:29 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 19 Feb 2000 03:05:30 -0500 Received: from rdebeck by mail.islandnet.com with LOCAL id 12M4tM-0005ta-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:05:28 -0800 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:03:17 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: List archive availability? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.68 b68 Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: I was looking for the archive for this list. What I found was at: ftp://swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu/pub/thinkpad/archive/ It covered 1994 through to Apr.30,1998. Are more current archives available somewhere? I was specifically interested in fall 99 to current posts re: the 390X model. Thanks for any help. Ron [8-) -- ------------------------------------------------------------- rdebeck@islandnet.com Ron De Beck Victoria, B.C., Canada ------------------------------------------------------------- From cph Sat Feb 19 09:32:59 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA29140 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:32:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25133; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:31:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:30:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25028; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25015; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:30:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.18 -> cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:30:01 -0500 Received: from default - 63.27.183.235 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 06:30:01 -0800 Message-ID: <007b01bf7ae5$a24b3340$dab71b3f@default> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Think" Subject: 2640 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 08:28:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Anybody heard of a 2640-50A?? Not at the IBM site. Brad From cph Sat Feb 19 09:55:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA29178 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:55:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26230; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:54:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:54:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26156; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:54:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26143; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:54:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (24.2.1.66 -> ha1.rdc1.il.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:54:08 -0500 Received: from c137335b ([24.17.39.54]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <20000219145407.ZHLU482.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@c137335b>; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 06:54:07 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Scott A. Stratmoen" To: Cc: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 - various comments Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 08:54:07 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <38AE1285.C069B4E5@gate.net> List-Unsubscribe: On IBM's BBS another user posted a note that his system (identical 770 configuration) also has the problem which I cited. Thus this is a generic problem with the 770 and Win2000, thus ruling out defects in my specific hardware. I find it interesting on Microsoft's Win2000 web site the IBM 20490 4GB (what I have) is listed as "possibly" requiring a driver from the manufacture for "proper" operation. What you are saying is that somehow Microsoft managed to write an IDE driver which is incompatible with IBM's drives. This is crazy... I also note that on IBM's storage web site there is a claim that Win2000 utilizes the disk in a mode which otherwise has not been utilized to date by Win95/98, etc. I assume that they are referring to UDMA-2. I tried setting the OS to access the drive with PIO but the problem still existed. IBM told me yesterday that they currently don't support Win2000 on the 770. I cited IBM's own web site where the 770 is listed as a supported system for Win2000.... The next call told me that if I am having problems it must be my machine. Send it in for service.... I kicked the issue back to them with the response to look at their own web site and read about another user with the same problem. Grrrr.... -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 9:48 PM To: stratmoen@home.com Cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 770 hard disk compatibility with Win2000 OK, another FWIW comment.. using a toshiba 9mm, 12gig HDD in the 770Z, win2000 professional, RC2, it works LIKE A CHARM.. the quietest drive i have not heard in a long time.. :-) "Scott A. Stratmoen" wrote: > Same thing here. Regular 770 with Win2000 RC2 on a 4 GB Apricorn HD. > > All things point to an compatibility problem between the drive and Windows > 2000's IDE driver. The drive appears to be randomly resetting based upon the > fact that the heads are unloading. It's not a deferred write from the cache. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sat Feb 19 10:03:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA29206 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:03:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26709; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:01:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:01:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26634; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26619; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:01:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (206.31.56.7 -> main.ismi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:01:26 -0500 Received: from denhall (tc2-45.ismi.net [207.51.180.100]) by main.ismi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA01413; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:01:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000a01bf7af3$5847b800$64b433cf@denhall> From: "Denis Hall" To: "Brad Burean" , "Think" Subject: Re: 2640 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:06:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: >Anybody heard of a 2640-50A?? Not at the IBM site. > >Brad Hi Brad, it's a 560 P100/11.3"DSTN display/810HD Have a Great Day, Denis Hall, Michigan -----Original Message----- From: Brad Burean To: Think Date: Saturday, February 19, 2000 8:31 AM Subject: 2640 >Anybody heard of a 2640-50A?? Not at the IBM site. > >Brad > > > From cph Sat Feb 19 23:21:11 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA00475 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:21:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27946; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:19:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:15:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27758; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:15:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27745; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:15:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.18 -> cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:15:53 -0500 Received: from tp570 - 63.27.163.65 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:15:52 -0800 Message-ID: <005501bf7b59$1ca3dcf0$41a31b3f@tp570> From: "Alex Kirkovsky" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: 18GB HDD for TP570 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:15:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: Hi everybody, It was written on IBMs Web site: "Cannot be used as primary hard disk drive on ThinkPad 570. Requires second hard disk drive adapter when used as a second hard disk drive in the UltraBay." It is NOT true... It works as primary hard disk drive on my ThinkPad 570... :) Regards, Alex Kirkovsky From cph Sun Feb 20 10:56:00 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA12215 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:55:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26455; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:54:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:53:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26352; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:53:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from CPAQ3000 (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26328; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from CPAQ3000 (208.139.24.6 -> mailman.bendcable.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:53:20 -0500 Received: from ronsmith - 208.130.252.177 by bendcable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 07:51:41 -0800 Message-ID: <000501bf7bba$986d59e0$b1fc82d0@bendcable.com> Reply-To: "Ron Smith K9QAM" From: "Ron Smith K9QAM" To: Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 07:53:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: subscribe k9qam@arrl.net From cph Sun Feb 20 11:59:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA12370 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:59:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29238; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:57:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:57:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29160; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtei.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29143; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:57:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtei.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.159 -> gtei.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:57:20 -0500 Received: from wald5 (adsl-141-155-119-59.bellatlantic.net [141.155.119.59]) by gtei.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA08738 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:57:04 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: Subject: W2K issues Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:57:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: Just installed Windows 2000 on a 770Z. Did a clean install to an extra 14gb hard drive I had. Install went well except two issues. I cannot suspend witout stopping my 3Com PC network card. The message I get references this card as the problem when I try to suspend. Anyone else have this problem? Is there a solution? Also, I installed the Windows 2000 DVD update, but in Device Manager the IBM DVD decoder card is indicated as not being able to start. I haven't tried to run a DVD. The thing I noticed is that when I went to install the DVD driver after installing W2K is that a listing for "Other devices" in Device Manager was not present. Any ideas? Is it possible that because I did not do an install after running the recovery CD that there are soem drivers that are missing? BTW, other than these issues, W2K is works great. -Bill Armstrong From cph Sun Feb 20 14:49:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA13003 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:49:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07013; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:46:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06918; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from atlas.dnai.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06905; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:46:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from atlas.dnai.com (207.181.194.95 -> atlas.dnai.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:46:50 -0500 Received: from THINK (dnai-216-15-88-178.cust.dnai.com [216.15.88.178]) by atlas.dnai.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA07265; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:46:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <009801bf7bdb$44013f90$0311a8c0@detayls.com> Reply-To: "David W. Taylor" From: "David W. Taylor" To: "William Armstrong" , References: Subject: Re: W2K issues Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:47:05 -0800 Organization: Detayls MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: Bill, Check out the IBM ThinkPad support site for a firmaware updater for DVD/CD ROM drives for use with Windows 2000. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Armstrong" To: Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 8:57 AM Subject: W2K issues > Just installed Windows 2000 on a 770Z. Did a clean install to an extra 14gb > hard drive I had. Install went well except two issues. I cannot suspend > witout stopping my 3Com PC network card. The message I get references this > card as the problem when I try to suspend. Anyone else have this problem? > Is there a solution? > > Also, I installed the Windows 2000 DVD update, but in Device Manager the IBM > DVD decoder card is indicated as not being able to start. I haven't tried > to run a DVD. The thing I noticed is that when I went to install the DVD > driver after installing W2K is that a listing for "Other devices" in Device > Manager was not present. Any ideas? Is it possible that because I did not > do an install after running the recovery CD that there are soem drivers that > are missing? > > BTW, other than these issues, W2K is works great. > > -Bill Armstrong > > > > From cph Sun Feb 20 16:08:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA13384 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:08:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10167; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:06:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:05:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10066; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtei.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10053; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:05:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtei.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.159 -> gtei.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:05:39 -0500 Received: from wald5 (adsl-141-155-118-77.bellatlantic.net [141.155.118.77]) by gtei.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA16066 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:05:30 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: Subject: RE: W2K issues Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:06:08 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <009801bf7bdb$44013f90$0311a8c0@detayls.com> List-Unsubscribe: Thanks, David. I loaded the DVD WDM driver. That's the only thing I see on the support site. -----Original Message----- From: David W. Taylor [mailto:davidt@detayls.com] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 2:47 PM To: William Armstrong; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: W2K issues Bill, Check out the IBM ThinkPad support site for a firmaware updater for DVD/CD ROM drives for use with Windows 2000. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Armstrong" To: Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 8:57 AM Subject: W2K issues > Just installed Windows 2000 on a 770Z. Did a clean install to an extra 14gb > hard drive I had. Install went well except two issues. I cannot suspend > witout stopping my 3Com PC network card. The message I get references this > card as the problem when I try to suspend. Anyone else have this problem? > Is there a solution? > > Also, I installed the Windows 2000 DVD update, but in Device Manager the IBM > DVD decoder card is indicated as not being able to start. I haven't tried > to run a DVD. The thing I noticed is that when I went to install the DVD > driver after installing W2K is that a listing for "Other devices" in Device > Manager was not present. Any ideas? Is it possible that because I did not > do an install after running the recovery CD that there are soem drivers that > are missing? > > BTW, other than these issues, W2K is works great. > > -Bill Armstrong > > > > From cph Sun Feb 20 18:27:04 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA13928 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:27:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15341; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:26:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:25:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15247; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15234; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:24:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002202324.SAA15234@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.35 -> out5.prserv.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:25:00 -0500 Received: from AST01 ([32.101.105.90]) by prserv.net (out5) with SMTP id <2000022023245224300mksbke>; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:24:52 +0000 From: "Lee Laniear" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 15:23:11 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: "Lee Laniear" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.1999 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP 701C - How large a hard drive? List-Unsubscribe: I have a friend with a 701C (I also have one) and he wants to put a larger hard drive in it. I know there is a 1GB drive, I have one in mine (cost a small fortune when I bought it four years ago). What is available for the 701 these days? Thanks for the input. Lee Lee Laniear laniear@attglobal.net OR laniear@alum.mit.edu From cph Sun Feb 20 18:30:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA13934 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:30:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15676; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:29:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:29:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15603; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:29:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from netdoor.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15590; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from netdoor.com (208.137.128.6 -> netdoor.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:29:25 -0500 Received: from thinkpad760 (port151.stk.netdoor.com [208.137.149.151]) by netdoor.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA27970 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 17:29:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001101bf7bfa$d1238670$979589d0@thinkpad760> From: "See-Kit Lam" To: Subject: TP760XD: total ram Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 17:32:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF7BC8.8594A450" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF7BC8.8594A450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi all..... i have another question on my tp760xd. according to ibm, = i've a 32mb base ram and there r 2 slots for ram. now,will this 32mb = base ram take one slot? there is one 32mb and one 16mb module on the 2 slots now.... and the = system reports 64mb.... is this correct? thanks. seekit =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF7BC8.8594A450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    hi all..... i have = another=20 question on my tp760xd. according to ibm, i've a 32mb base ram and there = r 2=20 slots for ram. now,will this 32mb base ram take one slot?
 
    there is one 32mb = and one 16mb=20 module on the 2 slots now.... and the system reports 64mb.... is this=20 correct?
 
    thanks.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF7BC8.8594A450-- From cph Sun Feb 20 19:12:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA14058 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:12:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17612; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:10:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:10:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17516; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from netdoor.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17503; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:10:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from netdoor.com (208.137.128.6 -> netdoor.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:10:26 -0500 Received: from thinkpad760 (port157.stk.netdoor.com [208.137.149.157]) by netdoor.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA18859 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:10:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000a01bf7c00$8b672460$9d9589d0@thinkpad760> From: "See-Kit Lam" To: Subject: tp760xd: total ram problem solved Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:13:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF7BCE.3F6A3E30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF7BCE.3F6A3E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi.. i think i've found the answer to my question earlier. the 32mb = base ram is not in one sodimm. there should be a on-board 16mb and then = a 16mb module occupying one slot. anyway, i'm going to get a 64mb module to max out the ram. any good = source? seekit ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF7BCE.3F6A3E30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    hi.. i think i've = found the=20 answer to my question earlier. the 32mb base ram is not in one sodimm. = there=20 should be a on-board 16mb and then a 16mb module occupying one=20 slot.
 
    anyway, i'm going to = get a 64mb=20 module to max out the ram. any good source?
 
seekit
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF7BCE.3F6A3E30-- From cph Sun Feb 20 19:46:00 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA14238 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:46:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18957; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:44:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:44:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18867; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:44:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18854; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:43:58 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-66.gate.net [207.36.212.66]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA36116; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:43:53 -0500 Message-ID: <38B08A45.762108A5@gate.net> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:43:49 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: See-Kit Lam CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: tp760xd: total ram problem solved References: <000a01bf7c00$8b672460$9d9589d0@thinkpad760> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------A106736F4DE1A8D10FDBB5AD" List-Unsubscribe: --------------A106736F4DE1A8D10FDBB5AD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit they are available all over the place.. :-) you must puty it in the rightmost DIMM socket and flip the tiny switch.. See-Kit Lam wrote: > hi.. i think i've found the answer to my question earlier. the > 32mb base ram is not in one sodimm. there should be a on-board 16mb > and then a 16mb module occupying one slot. anyway, i'm going to > get a 64mb module to max out the ram. any good source? seekit -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net --------------A106736F4DE1A8D10FDBB5AD Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit they are available all over the place..
:-)
you must puty it in the rightmost DIMM socket and flip the tiny switch..

See-Kit Lam wrote:

    hi.. i think i've found the answer to my question earlier. the 32mb base ram is not in one sodimm. there should be a on-board 16mb and then a 16mb module occupying one slot.     anyway, i'm going to get a 64mb module to max out the ram. any good source? seekit

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Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
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  --------------A106736F4DE1A8D10FDBB5AD-- From cph Sun Feb 20 19:48:36 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA14250 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:48:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19415; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:47:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19331; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:47:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19318; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:47:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:47:12 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-66.gate.net [207.36.212.66]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA82282; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:46:51 -0500 Message-ID: <38B08AF7.60515EA4@gate.net> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:46:47 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Armstrong CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: W2K issues References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill... if this is the release copy of w2k, then it should work fine and have all the drivers.. carlhermann, who is on my open forum, did an install on his 770X or Z and reports all is fine.. ask him.. i have been playing with the RC2 version, buth doing an upgrade over the preload and a fresh load.. on 12gig and 25gig drives.. so far, except for a bad copy of one file all is working very well.. :-) William Armstrong wrote: > Just installed Windows 2000 on a 770Z. Did a clean install to an extra 14gb > hard drive I had. Install went well except two issues. I cannot suspend > witout stopping my 3Com PC network card. The message I get references this > card as the problem when I try to suspend. Anyone else have this problem? > Is there a solution? > > Also, I installed the Windows 2000 DVD update, but in Device Manager the IBM > DVD decoder card is indicated as not being able to start. I haven't tried > to run a DVD. The thing I noticed is that when I went to install the DVD > driver after installing W2K is that a listing for "Other devices" in Device > Manager was not present. Any ideas? Is it possible that because I did not > do an install after running the recovery CD that there are soem drivers that > are missing? > > BTW, other than these issues, W2K is works great. > > -Bill Armstrong -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sun Feb 20 19:58:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA14310 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:58:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20064; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:56:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:56:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19991; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19978; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.61 -> smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:56:47 -0500 Received: from r82aap002986.nyr.cable.rcn.com ([209.122.72.23] helo=richard) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12Mh9b-0001Q4-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:56:47 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000220195229.012f3900@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: rpritz@pop.rcn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:56:27 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: richard Subject: w2k on 570 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Three win2000 issues on my 570 1) About one-half of the time that I resume from hibernation, I get a message to the effect that I've improperly removed the secondary IDE channel. What is the significance of this? 2) Battery life seems a bit shorter than with win98se. Anyone else? 3) Sometimes closing the lid does not put the machine into suspend. Opening the lid and reclosing, or FN-F11 works. From cph Sun Feb 20 20:25:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA14416 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:25:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21727; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:23:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:23:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21651; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21637; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:23:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:23:24 -0500 Received: from [139.142.112.238] (helo=139-142-112-238.islandnet.com) by mail.islandnet.com with SMTP id 12MhZK-00014n-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 17:23:22 -0800 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701C - How large a hard drive? Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:51:05 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: <5vIs44miplRa092yn@islandnet.com> References: <200002202324.SAA15234@CS.UTK.EDU> In-Reply-To: <200002202324.SAA15234@CS.UTK.EDU> Lines: 16 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: The 6.4 GB IBM Travelstar drive (DADA) works just fine in my 701. We had a thread recently on RAM. Is the maximum for an unmodified 701 really 8 + 32 = 40 MB ? That's what we always thought. In article <200002202324.SAA15234@CS.UTK.EDU>, you wrote: >I have a friend with a 701C (I also have one) and he wants to put a larger hard drive in it. I know there is a >1GB drive, I have one in mine (cost a small fortune when I bought it four years ago). What is available for the >701 these days? > -- cheers Jonathan From cph Sun Feb 20 20:46:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA14530 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:46:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22983; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:45:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:44:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22747; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22733; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:44:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.50 -> avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:44:12 -0500 Received: from eln005559 (dhcp21.mis.earthlink.net [207.217.66.61]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA22494 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 17:44:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000220174408.00792680@earthlink.net> X-Sender: pkhoury3@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 17:44:08 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Paul Khoury - Tech Support Subject: ThinkPad 600E modem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone know what kind of modem the ThinkPad 600E ACP modem is? And the init strings for it? Thanks, Paul (also at pkhoury@loop.com) From cph Mon Feb 21 00:11:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA15408 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:11:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01436; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:08:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01319; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:08:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01306; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.51 -> mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:08:43 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.67.3.130]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000221050836.ZEIG9376.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@701c> for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 05:08:36 +0000 Message-ID: <001001bf7c29$db820d60$8203430c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: TP 701 Max Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:09:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. There are 701s out there with 80 megs of memory. There is no limit I have found for the size of a harddrive for the 701. If you want to change the SO-DIMM memory, it is a standard unit with 4 wait state, non parity, speed 60 or so. As always, have fun. From cph Mon Feb 21 00:40:24 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA15549 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:40:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02820; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:38:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:38:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02736; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:38:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02723; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:38:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:38:31 -0500 Received: from BallardA.ATL (ali-ca40-23.ix.netcom.com [209.110.233.215]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA06069 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:38:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002210538.AAA06069@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:38:24 -0500 Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Idiotic Faxworks List-Unsubscribe: I fired up the preloaded Faxworks on my TP760XL to send a page for print at the hotel fax. Damn app INSISTED on failing due to no MWAVE discriminator. This unit does not have Mwave! I use a 3COM pc card modem. I can find no way to make this piece of crap Faxworks change to use the 3COM modem, and forget this Mwave nonsense. Any ideas? Do I need to load the Mwav stuff just to use Faxworks on a pc card modem? Allan Ballard From cph Mon Feb 21 00:41:47 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA15559 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:41:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03123; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:40:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03050; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:40:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03037; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:40:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.19 -> fb01.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:40:44 -0500 Received: from BallardA.ATL (ali-ca40-23.ix.netcom.com [209.110.233.215]) by fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA30094; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:40:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002210540.AAA30094@fb01.eng00.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "See-Kit Lam" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:40:36 -0500 Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4820800=_=_=_" Subject: Re: tp760xd: total ram problem solved List-Unsubscribe: --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4820800=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have an excellent service from Viking. Am using 64Mb Viking RAM in a 760CD, and 104 MB Viking RAM in a 760XL. --Original Message Text--- From: See-Kit Lam Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:13:54 -0600 hi.. i think i've found the answer to my question earlier. the 32mb base ram is not in one sodimm. there should be a on-board 16mb and then a 16mb module occupying one slot. anyway, i'm going to get a 64mb module to max out the ram. any good source? seekit --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4820800=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have an excellent service from Viking.
Am using 64Mb Viking RAM in a 760CD,
and 104 MB Viking RAM in a 760XL.


--Original Message Text---
From: See-Kit Lam
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:13:54 -0600

hi.. i think i've found the answer to my question earlier. the 32mb base ram is not in one sodimm. there should be a on-board 16mb and then a 16mb module occupying one slot.

anyway, i'm going to get a 64mb module to max out the ram. any good source?

seekit


--_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4820800=_=_=_-- From cph Mon Feb 21 04:33:11 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA16407 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:33:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15571; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:28:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:26:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15350; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:26:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15337; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:26:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:26:18 -0500 Received: from jeanluc (jeanluc.generics.co.uk [194.216.39.131]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA21640; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:26:04 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [172.20.1.9]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA18104; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:25:33 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 9:26:40 +0000 To: , "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" Subject: Re: Can't upgrade 810MB HD to 4.3GB HD MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id EAA16408 A typical cause of this is the drive/cable select pins interfering with things - they are in a little group of 4 at one end of the connector. If you can try the cable out of the caddy that works ON ITS OWN (i.e. caddyless) with the drive in a 760E, and it works, then it points towards a difference in the cables. My bet is that you'll have to bend the cable select pins out of the way to get the drive to work with the other cables. - Adam ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Can't upgrade 810MB HD to 4.3GB HD Author: MIME:"peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" at INTERNET Date: 2/18/00 9:54 PM I'm replacing the 810Mb (DSOA-20810) Hard Drives in a number of our Thinkpad 760E /760XL 's with a new IBM DKLA-24320 (4320 MB). It does not work . The HD spins up but the Thinkpad does not see it in the BIOS. i.e.. the Drive Icon is grayed out. The Thinkpad 760XL has the latest Bios . According to IBM's PDF files , both drives are the same from a pinout point of view. http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/table.htm The 4.3GB tests fine with an adapter in a desktop . The (810 MB ) caddy in question is a 29H9366 , 29H9315 ,29H9316. The cable used is a P/N 29H9422 . To completely confuse the issue, the 4.3GB HD works with the caddy from a IBM 2.1GB (DCRA-22110 ). This caddy is a: 82H8489 ( FRU) , 82H8490 (ASM) , 82H8495. The cable used in this one is P/N 82H5536. Unfortunately I can not use this caddy since it is too high for the 760E's . Also, I only have one . The Thinkpad division has issued a case number , but I hoped you folks would have a better idea. CASE # 14634851 Peter Machule Engineering Research TRIUMF -UBC machule@triumf.ca ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Mon Feb 21 09:57:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA17624 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:57:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04824; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:52:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:51:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04675; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:51:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04662; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:51:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (216.98.165.6) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:51:11 -0500 Received: by BIGRED with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 08:54:47 -0600 Message-ID: From: Greg Langham To: "'penzance@gate.net'" , William Armstrong Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: W2K issues Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 08:50:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I just did a clean install of 2000 on my 770Z, and you must go to IBM's web site and download the WDM driver before the DVD will function. Also, it's my opinion that the WDM driver only supports the hardware DVD decoder. I have one in my Z. I suspect it won't do software decoding. Otherwise, the 2000 installation has been great. I've thrown a good curveball at it without any problems: I am running my 770Z with a selectabase with two video cards installed. I'm running with multiple monitor support while docked. When I undock, I use the 770Z's screen. 2000 detected all of this just fine and boots between the two configurations without even a whimper. 2000 installed the trackpoint drivers and modem drivers without any intervention as well. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 6:47 PM To: William Armstrong Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: W2K issues Bill... if this is the release copy of w2k, then it should work fine and have all the drivers.. carlhermann, who is on my open forum, did an install on his 770X or Z and reports all is fine.. ask him.. i have been playing with the RC2 version, buth doing an upgrade over the preload and a fresh load.. on 12gig and 25gig drives.. so far, except for a bad copy of one file all is working very well.. :-) William Armstrong wrote: > Just installed Windows 2000 on a 770Z. Did a clean install to an extra 14gb > hard drive I had. Install went well except two issues. I cannot suspend > witout stopping my 3Com PC network card. The message I get references this > card as the problem when I try to suspend. Anyone else have this problem? > Is there a solution? > > Also, I installed the Windows 2000 DVD update, but in Device Manager the IBM > DVD decoder card is indicated as not being able to start. I haven't tried > to run a DVD. The thing I noticed is that when I went to install the DVD > driver after installing W2K is that a listing for "Other devices" in Device > Manager was not present. Any ideas? Is it possible that because I did not > do an install after running the recovery CD that there are soem drivers that > are missing? > > BTW, other than these issues, W2K is works great. > > -Bill Armstrong -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 21 15:19:12 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA19470 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:19:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00250; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:18:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:17:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00086; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00059; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:16:54 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2inig1o.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.64.56]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA30080 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:16:52 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: Subject: RE: W2K issues Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:17:26 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: Greg, I've installed the WDM driver. Twice! Can you look and see if the IBM DVD decoder card has a yellow triangle with an exclamation point in Device Manager/Sound video and game controllers? In the properties for the decoder card it says the the device cannot start. BTW, my standby/suspend problem seems to have fixed itself. Overall I am also happy with W2K. Still figuring how to get my networked printers up and running, and there is no W2K version of WinFax out yet. These are slight, but troublesome problems for implementing it throughout my office. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Greg Langham [mailto:greg@psnet.net] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 9:50 AM To: 'penzance@gate.net'; William Armstrong Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: W2K issues I just did a clean install of 2000 on my 770Z, and you must go to IBM's web site and download the WDM driver before the DVD will function. Also, it's my opinion that the WDM driver only supports the hardware DVD decoder. I have one in my Z. I suspect it won't do software decoding. Otherwise, the 2000 installation has been great. I've thrown a good curveball at it without any problems: I am running my 770Z with a selectabase with two video cards installed. I'm running with multiple monitor support while docked. When I undock, I use the 770Z's screen. 2000 detected all of this just fine and boots between the two configurations without even a whimper. 2000 installed the trackpoint drivers and modem drivers without any intervention as well. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 6:47 PM To: William Armstrong Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: W2K issues Bill... if this is the release copy of w2k, then it should work fine and have all the drivers.. carlhermann, who is on my open forum, did an install on his 770X or Z and reports all is fine.. ask him.. i have been playing with the RC2 version, buth doing an upgrade over the preload and a fresh load.. on 12gig and 25gig drives.. so far, except for a bad copy of one file all is working very well.. :-) William Armstrong wrote: > Just installed Windows 2000 on a 770Z. Did a clean install to an extra 14gb > hard drive I had. Install went well except two issues. I cannot suspend > witout stopping my 3Com PC network card. The message I get references this > card as the problem when I try to suspend. Anyone else have this problem? > Is there a solution? > > Also, I installed the Windows 2000 DVD update, but in Device Manager the IBM > DVD decoder card is indicated as not being able to start. I haven't tried > to run a DVD. The thing I noticed is that when I went to install the DVD > driver after installing W2K is that a listing for "Other devices" in Device > Manager was not present. Any ideas? Is it possible that because I did not > do an install after running the recovery CD that there are soem drivers that > are missing? > > BTW, other than these issues, W2K is works great. > > -Bill Armstrong -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 21 15:23:59 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA19503 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:23:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00886; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:23:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:23:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00809; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:22:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00794; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.61 -> smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:22:58 -0500 Received: from r82aap002986.nyr.cable.rcn.com ([209.122.72.23] helo=richard) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12MzM8-0005ZG-00; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:22:56 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000221152123.01312638@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: rpritz@pop.rcn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:22:35 -0500 To: "William Armstrong" From: richard Subject: RE: W2K issues Cc: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 03:17 PM 2/21/2000 -0500, William Armstrong wrote: >there is no W2K version of WinFax out yet. Version 9 seems to work fine on my 570 From cph Mon Feb 21 17:40:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA20519 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:40:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11969; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:39:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:38:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11799; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:38:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11785; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.20 -> fb02.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:38:06 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2inig6v.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.64.223]) by fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA07335 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:38:05 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: Subject: RE: W2K issues Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:38:38 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000221152123.01312638@pop.rcn.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: Really? That's good to hear. I thought it might work, although SYMANTEC is not saying it will work. They probably want to get plenty of customers for version 9. -Bill -----Original Message----- From: richard [mailto:rpritz@rcn.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 3:23 PM To: William Armstrong Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: W2K issues At 03:17 PM 2/21/2000 -0500, William Armstrong wrote: >there is no W2K version of WinFax out yet. Version 9 seems to work fine on my 570 From cph Tue Feb 22 04:43:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA23452 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:43:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17991; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:41:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:36:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17675; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:36:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17662; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:36:29 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from uhbhic.uhb.fr (192.134.240.50 -> uhbhic.uhb.fr) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:36:31 -0500 Received: from tp560 (cb1342.rec.uhb.fr [172.16.5.12]) by uhbhic.uhb.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.3) with SMTP id KAA24490 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:36:18 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38B25945.3A0E@uhb.fr> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:39:17 +0100 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Hard Drive doesn't seem to stop on 560z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi there I'm using Cacheman 3.7 (set at "standard user") on Win98. The TP has a 4Gb HD and 32Mb RAM. Trouble is, the HD light keeps turning on for about half a second every 3 or 4 seconds, whether on battery or on power cord. Most of the time, I can hear a small noise from the HD each time the light goes on. Is this normal, or am I slowly but surely wearing my HD down ? Thanks for any help. sylvestre From cph Tue Feb 22 06:30:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id GAA23871 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:30:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27462; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:28:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:27:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27387; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:27:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ntserver2.invention-machine.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27373; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:27:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from ntserver2.invention-machine.com (12.30.60.66) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:27:28 -0500 Received: from tp570 (1Cust165.tnt3.bos2.da.uu.net [63.22.79.165]) by ntserver2.invention-machine.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 1HBLH2P4; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:15:32 -0500 Message-ID: <002101bf7d27$ca9a2740$a54f163f@tp570> From: "Alex Kirkovsky" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" References: <38B25945.3A0E@uhb.fr> Subject: Re: Hard Drive doesn't seem to stop on 560z Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:27:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: I am using second HDD on my TP570. The same story... Regards, Alex Kirkovsky ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 4:39 AM Subject: Hard Drive doesn't seem to stop on 560z > Hi there > > I'm using Cacheman 3.7 (set at "standard user") on Win98. > The TP has a 4Gb HD and 32Mb RAM. > > Trouble is, the HD light keeps turning on for about half a second every > 3 or 4 seconds, whether on battery or on power cord. Most of the time, I > can hear a small noise from the HD each time the light goes on. > > Is this normal, or am I slowly but surely wearing my HD down ? > > Thanks for any help. > sylvestre From cph Tue Feb 22 08:07:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA24094 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:07:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01959; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:05:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:05:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01879; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:05:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0c.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01858; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:05:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0c.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.32 -> www0c.netaddress.usa.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:05:08 -0500 Received: (qmail 20102 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Feb 2000 13:02:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20000222130225.20101.qmail@www0c.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.32 by www0c for [208.203.179.162] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Tue Feb 22 13:02:25 GMT 2000 Date: 22 Feb 00 08:02:25 EST From: Stephen Remenyi To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 701C and Standby battery X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id IAA24095 I think the standby battery on my TP 701C is bad, since it doesn't save a suspended session when changing batteries. How difficult is it to change the standby battery? If I recall, the backup battery is the one underneath the battery cover on the bottom of the machine, but not sure of the standby battery. Is there a generic (purchaseable from Radio Shack) part number for the standby battery so as not have to go through IBM? While I'm at it, is there a generic part number for the standby battery? It's great to be able to come to a forum of Thinkpad experts; all those those who have blazed the trail before. Thanks in advance, Steve ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From cph Tue Feb 22 08:19:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA24125 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:19:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02736; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:17:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:17:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02659; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:17:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb00.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02639; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:17:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb00.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.200.31 -> fb00.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:17:31 -0500 Received: from user-38lc4d8.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lc4d8.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.17.168]) by fb00.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA01638; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:17:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002221317.IAA01638@fb00.eng00.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "richard" , "William Armstrong" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:16:10 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000221152123.01312638@pop.rcn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: W2K issues List-Unsubscribe: If not Y2K compliant, is Winfax Y2K compatible? Meaning that the date turnover does not show 4 digits, but the two 00's do not cause harm? On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:22:35 -0500, richard wrote: >At 03:17 PM 2/21/2000 -0500, William Armstrong wrote: >>there is no W2K version of WinFax out yet. From cph Tue Feb 22 08:22:36 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA24136 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:22:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03144; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:20:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:20:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03067; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb00.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03054; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:20:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb00.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.200.31 -> fb00.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:20:42 -0500 Received: from user-38lc4d8.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38lc4d8.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.17.168]) by fb00.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA23473 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:20:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002221320.IAA23473@fb00.eng00.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:19:24 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: new thinkpads List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 02:36:40 +1100 (EST), Alden S Klovdahl wrote: >any idea as to when the replacements for the tp760 series will be announced? Maybe you meant TP770 - but TP760 is a better question. Namely has the TP760XD EVER been replaced? On WHAT model TP can you find the features of the TP760XD (or CD for that matter)? Didn't IBM just decided to chuck construction of a multimedia thinkpad? Allan Ballard From cph Tue Feb 22 09:19:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA24365 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:19:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06690; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:18:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:17:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06555; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:17:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06542; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:17:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.19 -> fb01.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:17:17 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2inij3p.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.76.121]) by fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA00396 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:17:16 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: Subject: RE: W2K issues Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:17:49 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200002221317.IAA01638@fb00.eng00.mindspring.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: Allan, I have WinFax on several computers and use it often. I have not noticed any Y2K issues. I assume one needs to have the latest version. Bill Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: Allan Ballard [mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 8:16 AM To: richard; William Armstrong Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: W2K issues If not Y2K compliant, is Winfax Y2K compatible? Meaning that the date turnover does not show 4 digits, but the two 00's do not cause harm? On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:22:35 -0500, richard wrote: >At 03:17 PM 2/21/2000 -0500, William Armstrong wrote: >>there is no W2K version of WinFax out yet. From cph Tue Feb 22 09:44:47 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA24484 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:44:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08579; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:42:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:42:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08473; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:42:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08438; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:42:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (150.203.2.15 -> leonard.anu.edu.au) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:42:17 -0500 Received: (from e720084@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA23332; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:42:04 +1100 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:42:03 +1100 (EST) To: Allan Ballard cc: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: new thinkpads In-Reply-To: <200002221320.IAA23473@fb00.eng00.mindspring.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: sorry ... i did mean the 770s. everyone knows they are coming but the question is when .... (and trying to get an order in before my budget deadline.) regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 2 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Allan Ballard wrote: > On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 02:36:40 +1100 (EST), Alden S Klovdahl wrote: > > >any idea as to when the replacements for the tp760 series will be announced? > > Maybe you meant TP770 - but TP760 is a better question. Namely > has the TP760XD EVER been replaced? > > On WHAT model TP can you find the features of the TP760XD (or CD for > that matter)? > > Didn't IBM just decided to chuck construction of a multimedia thinkpad? > > Allan Ballard > From cph Tue Feb 22 10:05:38 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA24565 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:05:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10588; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:04:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:04:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10479; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:04:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10465; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:04:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:04:30 -0500 Received: from 98.new-york-75-80rs.ny.dial-access.att.net ([12.79.54.98]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000222150428.CSUK20625@98.new-york-75-80rs.ny.dial-access.att.net> for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:04:28 +0000 From: Robert Lawrence To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Battery problem: Zero power, won't charge Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:04:17 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id KAA24566 I have a ThinkPad 770ED that is about 14 months old. I never use the battery -- the computer is always plugged into an electric outlet and operated on AC power. The LCD indicator panel usually shows that 100% of battery power is remaining, although recently, when I first turn on the computer, it has sometimes shown only 99% of battery power remaining, which quickly comes back up to 100% after the computer is run for a while on AC power. This morning, however, when I powered on my ThinkPad, the LCD indicator panel showed 0% battery power remaining. Moreover, the indicator panel showed that the battery is not charging. Can anyone tell me how to get the battery to charge again? Or do these symptoms suggest that the battery needs to be changed (even though it is only about 14 months old)? Any help will be most appreciated. Robert Lawrence From cph Tue Feb 22 11:49:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA25114 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:49:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18666; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:48:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:47:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18555; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:47:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18541; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:47:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (24.2.9.68 -> ha1.rdc3.on.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:47:38 -0500 Received: from 452366-a ([24.114.126.73]) by mail.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with ESMTP id <20000222164457.LEMT2892.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:44:57 -0800 From: "Tom Trottier" To: Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:47:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Windows 2000/NT/98/95 performance on 701? Reply-to: TomATrottier@home.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <001001bf7c29$db820d60$8203430c@701c> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Message-Id: <20000222164457.LEMT2892.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone have any experience with apparent speed of the various windoze on the 701? With how much memory? The M$ site says 486 works with w2000 & 32MB is the minimum: http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWS2000/beta/askdev/99june30.asp ------------------------- Tom Trottier, Abadax IT Consulting 400 Slater St. Suite 415, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 __o ICQ:57647974 _ \< Voice: +1 613 291-1168 fax: 594-5412 No ads or spam, please (*)/'(*) Vote for your favourite Olympus camera at http://www.freevote.com/booth/fav_camera From cph Tue Feb 22 11:50:39 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA25124 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:50:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18515; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:46:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18318; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:46:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18297; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:45:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc3.on.home.com (24.2.9.68 -> ha1.rdc3.on.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:45:54 -0500 Received: from 452366-a ([24.114.126.73]) by mail.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with ESMTP id <20000222164327.LEEA2892.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a>; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:43:27 -0800 From: "Tom Trottier" To: "rudolph wratten" , Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:45:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: TP 701 Max memory Reply-to: TomATrottier@home.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <001001bf7c29$db820d60$8203430c@701c> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Message-Id: <20000222164327.LEEA2892.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> List-Unsubscribe: Hi rudolph Doesn't it have to be 72-pin as well, NOT 144 pin? Tom On 20 Feb 00, at 23:09, rudolph wratten spoke about *TP 701 Max..* saying > Hello. > > There are 701s out there with 80 megs of memory. > There is no limit I have found for the size of a harddrive for the > 701. If you want to change the SO-DIMM memory, it is a standard unit > with 4 wait state, non parity, speed 60 or so. > > As always, have fun. > ------------------------- Tom Trottier, Abadax IT Consulting 400 Slater St. Suite 415, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 __o ICQ:57647974 _ \< Voice: +1 613 291-1168 fax: 594-5412 No ads or spam, please (*)/'(*) Vote for your favourite Olympus camera at http://www.freevote.com/booth/fav_camera From cph Tue Feb 22 12:03:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA25252 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:03:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20680; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:01:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:01:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20571; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:01:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer3.mail.vanderbilt.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20551; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:01:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer3.mail.vanderbilt.edu (129.59.1.213 -> mailer3.mail.Vanderbilt.Edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:01:17 -0500 Received: from icl116.vuse.vanderbilt.edu (icl116.vuse.vanderbilt.edu [129.59.98.116]) by mailer3.mail.vanderbilt.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/VU-3.0.3+maxmessagesize) with SMTP id LAA09317; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:01:13 -0600 (CST) From: "Lestari, Ruby" Reply-To: ruby.lestari@vanderbilt.edu To: Robert Lawrence Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Battery problem: Zero power, won't charge In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:58:03 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Priority: NORMAL X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: That's what I experience before.... I'm sending in my Thinkpad 760 ED for EasyServ... Btw, does anybody know how much does it cost to replace the monitor..?? My monitor cracks....=( Ruby Lestari On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:04:17 -0500 Robert Lawrence wrote: > I have a ThinkPad 770ED that is about 14 months old. > > I never use the battery -- the computer is always plugged into an > electric outlet and operated on AC power. > > The LCD indicator panel usually shows that 100% of battery power is > remaining, although recently, when I first turn on the computer, it > has sometimes shown only 99% of battery power remaining, which quickly > comes back up to 100% after the computer is run for a while on AC > power. > > This morning, however, when I powered on my ThinkPad, the LCD > indicator panel showed 0% battery power remaining. Moreover, the > indicator panel showed that the battery is not charging. > > Can anyone tell me how to get the battery to charge again? Or do > these symptoms suggest that the battery needs to be changed (even > though it is only about 14 months old)? > > Any help will be most appreciated. > > Robert Lawrence ----------------------------------------------------------------- In Dharma, Lestari, Ruby Vanderbilt University Email: ruby.lestari@Vanderbilt.Edu From cph Tue Feb 22 12:08:31 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA25329 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:08:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21340; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:06:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21265; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:06:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer3.mail.vanderbilt.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21252; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:06:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer3.mail.vanderbilt.edu (129.59.1.213 -> mailer3.mail.Vanderbilt.Edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:06:22 -0500 Received: from icl116.vuse.vanderbilt.edu (icl116.vuse.vanderbilt.edu [129.59.98.116]) by mailer3.mail.vanderbilt.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/VU-3.0.3+maxmessagesize) with SMTP id LAA10808; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:06:02 -0600 (CST) From: "Lestari, Ruby" Reply-To: ruby.lestari@vanderbilt.edu To: Alden S Klovdahl Cc: Allan Ballard , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: new thinkpads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:02:52 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Priority: NORMAL X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I seriously believe IBM need a mojor reconstruction for Thinkpad... So far, all the competitors, namely Dell, Toshiba, etc. have already use more advanced technology than IBM. I believe Dell has almost 75GB for Hard Drive and SXGA+ monitor. All other high-level notebook mostly equipped with 2X AGP 3D video card with 8MB. What's up with our beloved IBM's Thinkpad..?? Ruby Lestari On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:42:03 +1100 (EST) Alden S Klovdahl wrote: > sorry ... i did mean the 770s. > > everyone knows they are coming but the question is when .... > > (and trying to get an order in before my budget deadline.) > > regards, al > > Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 2 62 49 05 25 > Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 > > On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Allan Ballard wrote: > > > On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 02:36:40 +1100 (EST), Alden S Klovdahl wrote: > > > > >any idea as to when the replacements for the tp760 series will be announced? > > > > Maybe you meant TP770 - but TP760 is a better question. Namely > > has the TP760XD EVER been replaced? > > > > On WHAT model TP can you find the features of the TP760XD (or CD for > > that matter)? > > > > Didn't IBM just decided to chuck construction of a multimedia thinkpad? > > > > Allan Ballard > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- In Dharma, Lestari, Ruby Vanderbilt University Email: ruby.lestari@Vanderbilt.Edu From cph Tue Feb 22 12:46:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA25585 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:46:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25280; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:42:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:42:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25154; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange2.y12.doe.gov (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25141; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange2.y12.doe.gov (134.167.250.19 -> exchange2.ctd.ornl.gov) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:42:00 -0500 Received: by exchange2.ctd.ornl.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2580.0) id ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:42:00 -0500 Message-ID: <5E6DA486E1C3D311B8550000F881B4510123BD6B@exchange1.ctd.ornl.gov> From: "McNeely, Brooks N. (BNM)" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP770X Battery indicator Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:41:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2580.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I have a TP770x that's about 11 months old. Most of the time, I use the computer on AC power. I've probably used the battery less than once a month since I have had the computer. Whenever I have used the battery (usually because I _think_ I'm using AC power, but I'm not), I've left it under battery control until the indicator displays some single digit percentage - usually between 0-3%. After reconnecting the AC power, the battery recharges to where it displays 100%. Just recently, after a few days the display will drop to 98-99% even while under uninterrupted AC power supply. Is this an expected pattern for battery behavior? There are some things like BIOS upgrades that seem to want AC power _and_ battery power. I thought I remembered one of these upgrades failing until I was able to get my battery charge to 100%. Is this an issue? Thanks in advance for any elucidation. Brooks From cph Tue Feb 22 13:36:47 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA25969 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:36:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00140; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:34:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29956; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:34:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29935; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:34:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.41 -> finch-post-12.mail.demon.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:34:34 -0500 Received: from moab.demon.co.uk ([158.152.127.170]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12NK8m-000DVk-0C for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 18:34:32 +0000 Message-ID: <6fl1mEAdats4EwvN@moab.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 18:34:05 +0000 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Greg Terrell Subject: Re: Battery problem: Zero power, won't charge References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U List-Unsubscribe: Robert The battery in my 770 died at about 18 months - shortly after a discussion about batteries in this group so I recognised the symptoms. I only occasionally used it and left it in the machine as a UPS and because there's nothing to fill the hole with if you take it out. It exhibited similar behaviour to yours but reached the point where it would show a varying partial charge but that would only last a few minutes. There's an information sheet about battery use on the IBM web site. I'll email you the URL if I can find it. Otherwise a search at IBM will find it. I bought a new battery which I keep only for using the TP on battery. I use the old one to fill the hole! Greg In message , Robert Lawrence writes >I have a ThinkPad 770ED that is about 14 months old. > >I never use the battery -- the computer is always plugged into an >electric outlet and operated on AC power. > >The LCD indicator panel usually shows that 100% of battery power is >remaining, although recently, when I first turn on the computer, it >has sometimes shown only 99% of battery power remaining, which quickly >comes back up to 100% after the computer is run for a while on AC >power. > >This morning, however, when I powered on my ThinkPad, the LCD >indicator panel showed 0% battery power remaining. Moreover, the >indicator panel showed that the battery is not charging. > >Can anyone tell me how to get the battery to charge again? Or do >these symptoms suggest that the battery needs to be changed (even >though it is only about 14 months old)? > >Any help will be most appreciated. > >Robert Lawrence -- Greg Terrell From cph Tue Feb 22 15:16:56 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA26996 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:16:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08980; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:15:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:14:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08819; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:14:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot006.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08796; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:14:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot006.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.106 -> pilot006.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:14:08 -0500 Received: from andres (andres-53.user.msu.edu [35.10.64.69]) by pilot006.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA69656 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:14:00 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000222151450.009e3a30@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:14:50 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: new thinkpads In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At one point IBM was too conservative about things, then they started going too far in the other direction, I think. As an example the i Series units are great when they work, but they've had a lot of problems with them. So I think IBM is once again having to come to terms with the forces of the market, and figure out how to make things that they can make money on, and which people want. Dell doesn't have a 75G disk. In fact, they use IBM disks, of which 25G is the currently largest unit made. That 75G is when you use something called the MegaBay, which sounds lots like the ultrabay system that IBM has. It will be interesting to see what IBM shows for the 775; preliminary data suggests that it will be a real kicker of a machine. We'll see what they do...! --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 11:02 AM 2/22/2000 -0600, Lestari, Ruby wrote: >I seriously believe IBM need a mojor reconstruction for >Thinkpad... >So far, all the competitors, namely Dell, Toshiba, etc. >have already use more advanced technology than IBM. >I believe Dell has almost 75GB for Hard Drive and SXGA+ >monitor. All other high-level notebook mostly equipped with >2X AGP 3D video card with 8MB. >What's up with our beloved IBM's Thinkpad..?? > >Ruby Lestari From cph Tue Feb 22 15:33:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA27152 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:33:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10940; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:31:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10810; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer3.mail.vanderbilt.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10797; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:31:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer3.mail.vanderbilt.edu (129.59.1.213 -> mailer3.mail.Vanderbilt.Edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:31:26 -0500 Received: from webgate1.mail.vanderbilt.edu (webgate2.mail.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.79]) by mailer3.mail.vanderbilt.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/VU-3.0.3+maxmessagesize) with ESMTP id OAA16181; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:31:21 -0600 (CST) X-WebMail-UserID: lestarr Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:33:26 -0600 Sender: lestarr From: lestarr To: "STeve Andre'" , THINKPAD X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002121 Subject: RE: new thinkpads Message-ID: <38B2D223@webgate1.mail.vanderbilt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61 List-Unsubscribe: So when will this Thinkpad 775 coming out..?? or else I'll probably getting Toshiba Tecra 8100 next week..?? Please advise. Thanks. Ruby Lestari >===== Original Message From "STeve Andre'" ===== >At one point IBM was too conservative about things, then they started going >too far in the other direction, I think. As an example the i Series units >are great when they work, but they've had a lot of problems with them. So >I think IBM is once again having to come to terms with the forces of the >market, and figure out how to make things that they can make money on, and >which people want. > >Dell doesn't have a 75G disk. In fact, they use IBM disks, of which 25G >is the currently largest unit made. That 75G is when you use something >called the MegaBay, which sounds lots like the ultrabay system that IBM >has. > >It will be interesting to see what IBM shows for the 775; preliminary data >suggests that it will be a real kicker of a machine. We'll see what they >do...! > >--STeve Andre' >andres@msu.edu > >At 11:02 AM 2/22/2000 -0600, Lestari, Ruby wrote: >>I seriously believe IBM need a mojor reconstruction for >>Thinkpad... >>So far, all the competitors, namely Dell, Toshiba, etc. >>have already use more advanced technology than IBM. >>I believe Dell has almost 75GB for Hard Drive and SXGA+ >>monitor. All other high-level notebook mostly equipped with >>2X AGP 3D video card with 8MB. >>What's up with our beloved IBM's Thinkpad..?? >> >>Ruby Lestari From cph Tue Feb 22 15:42:33 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA31992 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:42:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12090; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:40:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12006; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot011.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11971; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:40:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot011.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.111 -> pilot011.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:40:28 -0500 Received: from andres (andres-53.user.msu.edu [35.10.64.69]) by pilot011.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA22434 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:40:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000222154115.0088a6d0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:41:15 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: RE: new thinkpads In-Reply-To: <38B2D223@webgate1.mail.vanderbilt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: This came up oddly enough (new TPs coming out) at a funeral I attended yesterday. The IBM TP fanatic I spoke to said either early April or Early May. I have no idea where he got that data, but know that IBM usually takes their own time about it, so you aren't likely to find much out in a week--sorry. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 02:33 PM 2/22/2000 -0600, lestarr wrote: >So when will this Thinkpad 775 coming out..?? >or else I'll probably getting Toshiba Tecra 8100 next week..?? >Please advise. >Thanks. > >Ruby Lestari > >>===== Original Message From "STeve Andre'" ===== >>At one point IBM was too conservative about things, then they started going >>too far in the other direction, I think. As an example the i Series units >>are great when they work, but they've had a lot of problems with them. So >>I think IBM is once again having to come to terms with the forces of the >>market, and figure out how to make things that they can make money on, and >>which people want. >> >>Dell doesn't have a 75G disk. In fact, they use IBM disks, of which 25G >>is the currently largest unit made. That 75G is when you use something >>called the MegaBay, which sounds lots like the ultrabay system that IBM >>has. >> >>It will be interesting to see what IBM shows for the 775; preliminary data >>suggests that it will be a real kicker of a machine. We'll see what they >>do...! >> >>--STeve Andre' >>andres@msu.edu >> >>At 11:02 AM 2/22/2000 -0600, Lestari, Ruby wrote: >>>I seriously believe IBM need a mojor reconstruction for >>>Thinkpad... >>>So far, all the competitors, namely Dell, Toshiba, etc. >>>have already use more advanced technology than IBM. >>>I believe Dell has almost 75GB for Hard Drive and SXGA+ >>>monitor. All other high-level notebook mostly equipped with >>>2X AGP 3D video card with 8MB. >>>What's up with our beloved IBM's Thinkpad..?? >>> >>>Ruby Lestari > > > > From cph Tue Feb 22 15:48:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA32048 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:48:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13050; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:46:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:46:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12930; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:46:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12892; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:45:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (4.21.209.242 -> exch1.smh.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:45:59 -0500 Received: by exch1.smh.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:44:09 -0500 Message-ID: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF201F5B78F@exch1.smh.com> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: lestarr , "STeve Andre'" , THINKPAD Subject: RE: new thinkpads Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:44:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Greeting, Several weeks ago I came across an article on IBM's new laptop line planned for later this year. It included something called the "Portefino". It had lots of features that made it easier for the neophyte user, as I recall. Anyone have any details? Regards, Neil TP 770ED 600, 701C -----Original Message----- From: lestarr [mailto:ruby.lestari@vanderbilt.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 3:33 PM To: STeve Andre'; THINKPAD Subject: RE: new thinkpads So when will this Thinkpad 775 coming out..?? or else I'll probably getting Toshiba Tecra 8100 next week..?? Please advise. Thanks. Ruby Lestari >===== Original Message From "STeve Andre'" ===== >At one point IBM was too conservative about things, then they started going >too far in the other direction, I think. As an example the i Series units >are great when they work, but they've had a lot of problems with them. So >I think IBM is once again having to come to terms with the forces of the >market, and figure out how to make things that they can make money on, and >which people want. > >Dell doesn't have a 75G disk. In fact, they use IBM disks, of which 25G >is the currently largest unit made. That 75G is when you use something >called the MegaBay, which sounds lots like the ultrabay system that IBM >has. > >It will be interesting to see what IBM shows for the 775; preliminary data >suggests that it will be a real kicker of a machine. We'll see what they >do...! > >--STeve Andre' >andres@msu.edu > >At 11:02 AM 2/22/2000 -0600, Lestari, Ruby wrote: >>I seriously believe IBM need a mojor reconstruction for >>Thinkpad... >>So far, all the competitors, namely Dell, Toshiba, etc. >>have already use more advanced technology than IBM. >>I believe Dell has almost 75GB for Hard Drive and SXGA+ >>monitor. All other high-level notebook mostly equipped with >>2X AGP 3D video card with 8MB. >>What's up with our beloved IBM's Thinkpad..?? >> >>Ruby Lestari From cph Tue Feb 22 15:56:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA32107 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:56:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13962; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:54:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13845; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13832; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:53:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.28 -> cpimssmtpu07.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:53:58 -0500 Received: from ppro200 - 216.160.143.167 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:53:58 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Richard A. Bilancia" To: "'THINKPAD'" Subject: RE: new thinkpads Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:53:45 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Take a look at: http://www.pcworld.com/pcwtoday/article/0,1510,15164,00.html > -----Original Message----- > From: Dr. Cornelius Halvey [mailto:Cornelius-Halvey@smh.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 1:44 PM > To: lestarr; STeve Andre'; THINKPAD > Subject: RE: new thinkpads > > > Greeting, > > Several weeks ago I came across an article on IBM's new > laptop line planned > for later this year. It included something called the > "Portefino". It had > lots of features that made it easier for the neophyte user, > as I recall. > Anyone have any details? > > Regards, > > Neil > TP 770ED > 600, 701C From cph Tue Feb 22 16:03:10 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA32176 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:03:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15277; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:01:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:00:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15186; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:00:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15169; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:00:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (129.10.116.51 -> amber.ccs.neu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:00:53 -0500 Received: from zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (dnb@zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.104]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id e1ML0pH27851 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:00:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by zubenelgenubi.ccs.neu.edu (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) id e1ML0pV17696; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:00:51 -0500 (EST) Sender: dnb@ccs.neu.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Aironet PC4800 + TP570/NT4SP5 From: dnb@ccs.neu.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman) Date: 22 Feb 2000 16:00:50 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 8 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 19.34 List-Unsubscribe: Howdy- Shot in the dark here: has anyone on this list successfully installed an Aironet PC4800 card into an NT Thinkpad? I'd love to compare your settings because I've gotten nowhere fast so far. Thanks in advance. Peace, dNb From cph Tue Feb 22 16:39:34 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA32508 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:39:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19152; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:38:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:37:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19006; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhop1.nyroc.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18965; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhop1.nyroc.rr.com (24.92.226.166 -> mailhop1-1.nyroc.rr.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:37:14 -0500 Received: from mailout1.nyroc.rr.com ([24.92.226.81]) by mailhop1.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:34:24 -0500 Received: from dynamocomputers.com ([24.95.139.179]) by mailout1.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:33:10 -0500 Message-ID: <38B300C8.882F26CF@dynamocomputers.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:34:00 -0500 From: Pete Hatton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad Subject: 701CS drive upgrade Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I just upgraded a Thinkpad 701CS hard drive from the 540MB drive it came with to a 1.3GB toshiba drive( from TP560). I used the caddy that was on the 540MB. It seems to work fine but the bios says it is only 282MB. It seems to boot WinNT fine that was loaded on the drive while it was in the 560, showing the drive as 1.3GB. I just want to check to make sure that the size mismatch is not going to give me problems later. From cph Tue Feb 22 19:15:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA01420 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:15:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02595; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:14:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:12:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02422; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:12:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from area54.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02408; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:12:20 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from area54.net (205.177.191.50 -> mercury.mcummings.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:12:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by area54.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA22525; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:11:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:11:51 -0500 (EST) To: Pete Hatton cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: 701CS drive upgrade In-Reply-To: <38B300C8.882F26CF@dynamocomputers.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: It a bios display mask problem. There's a "1" in front of that 282 that you don't see. The max size disk released in a 701 was something like 710mb so there was no need to display any more than 3 characters. In short don't worry about it. Michael On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Pete Hatton wrote: > I just upgraded a Thinkpad 701CS hard drive from the 540MB drive it came with to > a 1.3GB toshiba drive( from TP560). I used the caddy that was on the 540MB. It > seems to work fine but the bios says it is only 282MB. It seems to boot WinNT > fine that was loaded on the drive while it was in the 560, showing the drive as > 1.3GB. I just want to check to make sure that the size mismatch is not going to > give me problems later. > From cph Tue Feb 22 20:09:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA01783 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:09:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06147; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:07:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06069; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:07:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06034; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:07:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (203.96.92.1 -> mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:07:19 -0500 Received: from am ([210.55.151.237]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <20000223010710.FPFS6460852.mta1-rme@am> for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:07:10 +1300 Message-ID: <000c01bf7d9a$231b71e0$ed9737d2@am> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Cool Little Tool Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:05:54 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hiya, I've been using Toshiba's cool little tool to control the speed and noise of my DVD drive for quite a while now. The other day, the tool started saying that it cannot find a Toshiba CD-ROM drive. Any ideas why it would suddenly decide not to find my drive anymore?? I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling. Device manager shows TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-C2002. Windows 98, 770-1AU thinkpad. Thanks, Andreas!! ;-) From cph Tue Feb 22 20:26:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA01895 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:26:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07460; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:23:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07362; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:23:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb00.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07340; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb00.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.200.31 -> fb00.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:23:42 -0500 Received: from engin.umich.edu (user-33qtd0e.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.180.14]) by fb00.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08741 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:23:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38B336C1.F1A2E27A@engin.umich.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:24:17 -0500 From: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" Organization: University of Michigan Engineering X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows 2000/NT/98/95 performance on 701? References: <20000222164457.LEMT2892.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Tom Trottier wrote: > > Does anyone have any experience with apparent speed of the various > windoze on the 701? With how much memory? > > The M$ site says 486 works with w2000 & 32MB is the minimum: > http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWS2000/beta/askdev/99june30.asp This doesn't seem to be the case anymore.. Currently, Microsoft specifies a Pentium 133 with 64 MB RAM as the minimum for Win2k Professional; Win2k server requires even more RAM. I think that Win2k on a 701 would be intolerably slow. http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/upgrade/upgradereqs/default.asp Aaron Teitlebaum arteitle@engin.umich.edu From cph Wed Feb 23 01:08:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA03588 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:08:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04154; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:03:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:02:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02944; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.clinet.fi (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02891; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:02:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.clinet.fi (194.100.0.12 -> smtp.clinet.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:02:17 -0500 Received: from TP560X (255-35.dyn.clinet.fi [194.100.255.35]) by smtp.clinet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA81939 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:00:12 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200002230600.IAA81939@smtp.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:02:06 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <20000222164457.LEMT2892.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> Subject: Re: Windows 2000/NT/98/95 performance on 701? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.06 c06 (Unregistered) List-Unsubscribe: FWIW, NT 3.51 starts on my 701C/50Mhz/20MB but I haven't been able to run the application I installed it for (Kodak application for creating PhotoCD's), as it complained about the lack of resources. I also have Win95 installed on that machine, but it's OS/2 Warp 3 Connect I'm using most of the time. Dominique On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 at 11:47 AM you, "Tom Trottier" , said: >Does anyone have any experience with apparent speed of the various >windoze on the 701? With how much memory? >The M$ site says 486 works with w2000 & 32MB is the minimum: >http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWS2000/beta/askdev/99june30.asp From cph Wed Feb 23 01:24:09 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA03648 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:24:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09290; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:19:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:19:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09150; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:19:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09116; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:19:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:19:19 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-333.gate.net [199.227.173.79]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA46130; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:19:06 -0500 Message-ID: <38B37BD7.152FAAFC@gate.net> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:19:03 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "STeve Andre'" CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: new thinkpads References: <3.0.6.32.20000222151450.009e3a30@pilot.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Intrestingly, the new machine will have an 18gig drive, not the 25gig drive, which may explain the shortage of both.. DELL is eating up the 25gig drives and IBM is eating up all the 18gig drives.. the 25gig drive i have been testing in my 770Z is FAST..! STeve Andre' wrote: > At one point IBM was too conservative about things, then they started going > too far in the other direction, I think. As an example the i Series units > are great when they work, but they've had a lot of problems with them. So > I think IBM is once again having to come to terms with the forces of the > market, and figure out how to make things that they can make money on, and > which people want. > > Dell doesn't have a 75G disk. In fact, they use IBM disks, of which 25G > is the currently largest unit made. That 75G is when you use something > called the MegaBay, which sounds lots like the ultrabay system that IBM > has. > > It will be interesting to see what IBM shows for the 775; preliminary data > suggests that it will be a real kicker of a machine. We'll see what they > do...! > > --STeve Andre' > andres@msu.edu > > At 11:02 AM 2/22/2000 -0600, Lestari, Ruby wrote: > >I seriously believe IBM need a mojor reconstruction for > >Thinkpad... > >So far, all the competitors, namely Dell, Toshiba, etc. > >have already use more advanced technology than IBM. > >I believe Dell has almost 75GB for Hard Drive and SXGA+ > >monitor. All other high-level notebook mostly equipped with > >2X AGP 3D video card with 8MB. > >What's up with our beloved IBM's Thinkpad..?? > > > >Ruby Lestari -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Wed Feb 23 04:03:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA04285 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:03:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03315; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:01:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:00:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03121; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:00:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03107; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:00:49 -0500 Received: from [139.142.112.247] (helo=139-142-112-247.islandnet.com) by mail.islandnet.com with SMTP id 12NXf5-0008EY-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:00:48 -0800 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows 2000/NT/98/95 performance on 701? Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:00:55 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <20000222164457.LEMT2892.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> In-Reply-To: <20000222164457.LEMT2892.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@452366-a> Lines: 24 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: Win95a runs OK with 16 Meg, though I upgraded to 40 Meg. I don't run much bloatware, which is perhaps a good reason why I find the performance acceptable. Let's see, right now the taskbar shows: 5 Netscape 3.04 windows YARN (news- and mail- reader) 3 DOS app windows ChessBase Light I do not use virus checkers or anything that would load the system. >Does anyone have any experience with apparent speed of the various >windoze on the 701? With how much memory? > >The M$ site says 486 works with w2000 & 32MB is the minimum: >http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWS2000/beta/askdev/99june30.asp > -- cheers Jonathan From cph Wed Feb 23 07:43:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA05120 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:43:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA21875; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:42:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:38:44 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA21496; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:38:43 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id HAA14181 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15225; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:42:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (142.90.100.150 -> trmail.Triumf.CA) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:42:55 -0500 Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA [142.90.120.3]) by trmail.triumf.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA00105 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:42:54 -0800 Message-ID: <03bb01bf7db1$ede8bec0$03785a8e@pmachule> From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: Subject: IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $99 Finally ;-} Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:56:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $99 ITEM #...1969-100 SERIES http://hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=3&sku=1969%2D100+SERIES >From their email ..peter.. From cph Wed Feb 23 11:38:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA07006 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:38:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10411; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:37:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:36:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10217; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:36:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.sivco.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10204; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:36:05 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mail.sivco.com (209.91.123.78 -> h-209-91-123-78.gen.cadvision.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:36:05 -0500 Subject: Air & car adapter to 770 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Cc: X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.1a August 17, 1999 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:35:45 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on tigger/Sivco(Release 5.0.1a|August 17, 1999) at 02/23/2000 09:36:40 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id LAA07008 I'm trying to locate the model number for the TARGUS Air & Car adapter what I can use with the 770 line. They have more tan one adapters, but the 770 is NOT explicitly stated on the supported laptops. Thanks, Geza Geza Szivos mailto:Geza.Szivos@SIVCO.com System Analyst/eDBA Certified VisualAge for C++ Object Oriented Developer, Certified WebSphere, DB2 and VisualAge Java Associate Developer, VisualWarehouse Specialist, Certified IBM OS/2 Engineer, Certified Warp Server Engineer SIVCO Inc. «Calgary, AB» «Buffalo, NY» «Olympia, WA» Visit our web page http://www.sivco.com Head office: 118 Arbour Summit Close NW Calgary, Alberta Canada T3G 3W2 Toll Free Call: (877) 700-2600 Toll Free Fax: (877) 547-4741 In Calgary call (403) 208-2600 Cellular (360) 481-2828 From cph Wed Feb 23 13:41:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA08319 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:41:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23107; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:38:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:36:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22801; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22762; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:36:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:36:40 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M ([198.138.8.75]) by water.vramp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA45381; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:35:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from CaptJHEM@waterw.com) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" , Cc: Subject: RE: IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $99 Finally ;-} Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:38:09 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: <03bb01bf7db1$ede8bec0$03785a8e@pmachule> List-Unsubscribe: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP [mailto:machule@triumf.ca] wrote: > IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $99 > ITEM #...1969-100 SERIES Not having had Peter's patience and faith that the price would ultimately break the $100 level, I ordered one of these yesterday for $110. After kicking myself for not waiting longer, I called Louie and mentioned my order and the fact that the price was now $11 less. "No problem" said the SYT on the other end of the line and she adjusted my AMEX charge to reflect the new price. I am quickly learning to _Love_ these folks! Now I have to wait for the package to arrive to confirm that I indeed bought the one described (comes with speakers and Ni-CAD battery, as well as the PCMCIA card and cables) and _not_ the bare drive with only the PCMCIA card. There seems to be a bit of confusion on the web pages, but not in the minds of the order takers. Regards, James From cph Wed Feb 23 13:49:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA08418 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:49:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24459; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:46:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:46:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24376; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:46:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from access.mbnet.mb.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24356; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:46:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from access.mbnet.mb.ca (204.112.54.11 -> access.mbnet.mb.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:46:16 -0500 Received: from CORUSCANT (24.66.41.126.mb.wave.home.com [24.66.41.126]) by access.mbnet.mb.ca (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA22680 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:46:09 -0600 (CST) Received: by CORUSCANT with Microsoft Mail id <01BF7DFB.588B9830@CORUSCANT>; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:41:46 -0600 Message-ID: <01BF7DFB.588B9830@CORUSCANT> From: Jason Savage To: "Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Windows 2000/NT/98/95 performance on 701? Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:40:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id NAA08419 Personally I think Microsoft Minimum requirements for W2K are bullpucky. I'm running W2K Pro on my Toshiba Libretto 50ct with P75 and 32MB. I have Office97 loaded on this machine as well and have run Word Excel and Powerpoint simultaneously without getting low resource errors. Mind you, I get a lot of Hard Drive cracking when I do that. 8^) The machine has been completely usable so far. I'm also running W2K Advanced Server on a P166 non-mmx with 64MB of RAM. It runs fine as a Backup Domain Controller. I think for once Microsoft erred on the side of caution when it came to minimum requirements so that they did have a repeat of the complaints like they got from the 386 owners when 95 first shipped. However, I do think a ThinkPad 701C (DX4-75 with 40MB) might be pushing the envelope a little bit. 8^) Remember that W2K is a huge OS. Your looking at an average OS footprint of 1Gig. Make sure you have at least a 2Gig drive in your machine if you want to use it for more then loading the OS. 8^) Sincerely, Jason Savage Savage@MBnet.MB.CA -----Original Message----- From: Aaron R. Teitlebaum [SMTP:arteitle@engin.umich.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 7:24 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows 2000/NT/98/95 performance on 701? Tom Trottier wrote: > > Does anyone have any experience with apparent speed of the various > windoze on the 701? With how much memory? > > The M$ site says 486 works with w2000 & 32MB is the minimum: > http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWS2000/beta/askdev/99june30.asp This doesn't seem to be the case anymore.. Currently, Microsoft specifies a Pentium 133 with 64 MB RAM as the minimum for Win2k Professional; Win2k server requires even more RAM. I think that Win2k on a 701 would be intolerably slow. http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/upgrade/upgradereqs/default.asp Aaron Teitlebaum arteitle@engin.umich.edu From cph Wed Feb 23 19:05:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA11734 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:05:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19012; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:03:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18830; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:03:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18816; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:03:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:03:11 -0500 Received: from sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA07645 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:03:08 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <003701bf7e5a$93e24820$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: References: Subject: Re: IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $99 Finally ;-} Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:03:27 -1000 Organization: Not to a very advanced degree MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Someone who buys one of these should report on how easily the installation goes. My sound-free IBM 20x installed transparently on my 560 (more easily than my old 4x, which was a bit erratic until I obtained updated drivers from IBM), but I have had friends have problems installing CD-Roms with built-in sound on laptops with built-in sound. In some cases disabling the laptop's sound support in W95 (i.e., in Setup) did not seem to thoroughly eliminate conflict. I am also curious how the built-in sound affects battery life, though this will be hard to tell without a head-to-head comparison with the sound-free drive and new batteries. - David R From cph Wed Feb 23 21:32:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA13092 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:32:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28615; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:30:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:28:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28442; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:28:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3806.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28429; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3806.mail.yahoo.com (204.71.203.177 -> web3806.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:28:49 -0500 Message-ID: <20000224022843.3347.qmail@web3806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.4.253.2] by web3806.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:28:43 PST Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:28:43 -0800 (PST) From: Garrett Kaste Subject: 760 TV cables To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I purchased a Thinkpad 760XD laptop that has TV in and TV out on it. I bought used, and didnt get the cables. I called IBM and they are $32.50. Does any one know where I can get them cheaper? I would really like to know. Also, does anyone know where to get an external floppy drive monting kit cheap? Thanks Garrett. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph Wed Feb 23 23:57:11 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA14191 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:57:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05945; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:54:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05787; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:54:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05773; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.net (192.160.127.90 -> Kitten.mcs.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:54:31 -0500 Received: from 192.168.1.7 (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01527 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:54:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from heiby@falkor.chi.il.us) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:54:25 -0600 From: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.38e) UNREG / Personal Reply-To: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15954.000223@falkor.chi.il.us> To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[2]: Battery problem: Zero power, won't charge In-reply-To: <6fl1mEAdats4EwvN@moab.demon.co.uk> References: <6fl1mEAdats4EwvN@moab.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Tuesday, February 22, 2000, 12:34:05 PM, Greg wrote: GT> The battery in my 770 died at about 18 months Mine lasted slightly less than a year. GT> I only occasionally used it and left it in the machine as a UPS Me, too! GT> It exhibited similar behaviour to yours but reached the point where GT> it would show a varying partial charge but that would only last a GT> few minutes. Me, too. I called the support line and explained what I was seeing. They sent me out a new battery and a label for me to send my old one back. I had the impression that there was a particular part number battery for the 770 family that wasn't quite "up to snuff". Doesn't hurt to ask. Ron. From cph Thu Feb 24 02:52:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA14992 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:52:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13078; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:50:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:50:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12960; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:50:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.tcis.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12945; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:49:59 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mail.tcis.com (209.181.251.180 -> fdsl180.mpls.uswest.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:50:03 -0500 Received: from patrick.mpls.uswest.net (edsl96.mpls.uswest.net [209.181.225.97]) by mail.tcis.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-40517U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAA99 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:49:50 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000224015118.0079c410@profilemusic.com> X-Sender: ron@profilemusic.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:51:18 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: help From cph Thu Feb 24 02:58:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA15011 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:58:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13397; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:56:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:56:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13323; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:56:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb00.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13310; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:56:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb00.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.200.31 -> fb00.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:56:29 -0500 Received: from engin.umich.edu (user-33qtd3n.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.180.119]) by fb00.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23308 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:56:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38B4E44A.1CC54723@engin.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:56:58 -0500 From: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" Organization: University of Michigan Engineering X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: References: <3.0.6.32.20000224015118.0079c410@profilemusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: ron@profilemusic.com wrote: > > help Sure thing.. are you drowning? Choking? What can we help you with? :) Aaron Teitlebaum arteitle@engin.umich.edu From cph Thu Feb 24 08:05:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA16170 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 08:05:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04783; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 08:00:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:53:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04355; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:53:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04333; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (24.137.12.3) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:53:20 -0500 Received: from CEL400 (24.137.23.42) by orion.planetcable.net (Worldmail 1.3.167); 24 Feb 2000 07:50:17 -0500 Message-ID: <004001bf7ec6$ade8c200$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> From: "Slip" To: "Garrett Kaste" , References: <20000224022843.3347.qmail@web3806.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: 760 TV cables Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:57:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Hmm, there was a gentleman on this list by the name of Denis who I know stocked the floppy adaptors. I'm not sure about the video adaptors though-he said he may try to get ahold of some. But if I were you I'd look to E-bay for both. I got my video adaptor for my 760ed for $13.00. Good luck, -Jamie >I purchased a Thinkpad 760XD laptop that has TV in and >TV out on it. I bought used, and didnt get the >cables. I called IBM and they are $32.50. Does any >one know where I can get them cheaper? I would really >like to know. From cph Thu Feb 24 10:23:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA16986 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:23:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14466; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:17:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:16:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14303; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:16:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.doit.wisc.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14290; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:16:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.doit.wisc.edu (144.92.9.40 -> mail1.doit.wisc.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:16:33 -0500 Received: from [24.10.223.127] by mail1.doit.wisc.edu id JAA174624 (8.9.1/50); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:16:31 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000224091555.00a285d0@students.wisc.edu> X-Sender: cpellefs@students.wisc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:16:24 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Charles P Ellefson Subject: mail list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: thanks....please accept my request for info on the ibm thinkpad 730t. Just bought one. Charles. From cph Thu Feb 24 10:26:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA17011 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:26:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14799; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:20:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:20:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14699; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:20:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from 24.64.138.125.on.wave.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14680; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:20:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from 24.64.138.125.on.wave.home.com (24.64.138.125 -> 24.64.138.125.on.wave.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:20:11 -0500 Received: from tatross ([10.1.1.22]) by 24.64.138.125.on.wave.home.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA00928 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 08:32:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kate@bored.lexxdog.com) Message-ID: <004601bf7ef3$dfc44d80$1601010a@bored.lexxdog.com> From: "kate" To: References: <4.2.2.20000224091555.00a285d0@students.wisc.edu> Subject: Re: mail list Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:20:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Charles, they are a great machine, these links should help you out some. http://lexxdog.com/~kate/730t/ http://www.basterfield.com/tp730/ http://www.globalmonitor.com/730Tos.html Hope this helps, Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles P Ellefson" To: Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 7:16 AM Subject: mail list > thanks....please accept my request for info on the ibm thinkpad 730t. Just > bought one. Charles. > > From cph Thu Feb 24 10:48:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA17182 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:48:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17183; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:42:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:42:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17091; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:42:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from p0016c23.us.kpmg.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17076; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:42:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from p0016c23.us.kpmg.com (199.207.255.23 -> p0016c23.us.kpmg.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:42:21 -0500 Received: from p0016c56.kweb.us.kpmg.com by p0016c23.us.kpmg.com(Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA05663 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:42:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from p0016c22.kweb.us.kpmg.com by p0016c56.kweb.us.kpmg.com via smtpd (for p0016c23.us.kpmg.com [199.207.255.23]) with SMTP; 24 Feb 2000 15:42:33 UT Received: from usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com by kpmg.com(Pro-8.9.2/Pro-8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA07238 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:42:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com (unverified) by usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:42:08 -0500 Received: by usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1Y2JJPB1>; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:42:08 -0500 Message-Id: <8389C74A65EFD111B03800805FA7658F050186CC@USDALEXC01> From: "Egbert, Scott K" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP600] Memory Problems Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:37:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I have been having memory problems lately with my TP 600 running Windows 98. Is there any way to tell where the memory is being allocated? I have 128MB total, and after a clean startup I am left with only about 32MB free. I also seem to have the same problems under RedHat Linux 6.1. Thanks in advance! - Scott Egbert segbert@kpmg.com ***************************************************************************** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. ***************************************************************************** From cph Thu Feb 24 11:07:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA17396 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:07:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19108; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:02:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:00:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18873; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18815; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:00:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:00:45 -0500 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17700; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:00:35 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-ID: <38B555A3.F136F268@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:00:35 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13-sls i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Egbert, Scott K" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP600] Memory Problems References: <8389C74A65EFD111B03800805FA7658F050186CC@USDALEXC01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Regarding Linux, are you sure it is seeing all your 128MB. The output of the free command, under the total category, ought to show something around 128*1024k. I have seen many Linux kernels only find 64MB on a ThinkPad. If so, you will have to add a line to your /etc/lilo.conf file. You should add something like append="mem=130688k" This is 128MB - 384kB. You could also specify "127MB". As to other non-free memory, that is often used by various system caches. These caches are generally freed up as needed. In fact, it is better to have no truly free memory. Memory being used for a cache is better than memory being totallly idle. I would guess that Windows does similar caching. --Lee Hetherington From cph Thu Feb 24 11:42:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA17686 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:42:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22589; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:38:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:35:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22362; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22349; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:35:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:35:53 -0500 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18007; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:35:47 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-ID: <38B55DE2.B793558A@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:35:46 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13-sls i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Egbert, Scott K" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP600] Memory Problems References: <8389C74A65EFD111B03800805FA7658F050186CC@USDALEXC01> <38B555A3.F136F268@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I wrote: > This is 128MB - 384kB. You could also specify "127MB". Make that you could also specify "127M". --Lee Hetherington From cph Thu Feb 24 12:48:34 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA18201 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:48:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29020; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:42:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28879; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx-01a.tycoelectronics.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28863; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:42:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx-01a.tycoelectronics.com (12.26.84.138 -> mx-01a.tycoelectronics.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:42:15 -0500 Received: from ammexh01.amp.com (map012026084186.amp.com [12.26.84.186]) by mx-01a.tycoelectronics.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22273 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:42:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by ammexh01.amp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:42:09 -0500 Received: from ammex001.amp.com ([163.241.175.7]) by ammexh01.amp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id FRRLDAFZ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:42:04 -0500 Received: by ammex001.amp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:42:04 -0500 From: "Maiorino, Cesar D." To: "Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail)" Message-ID: <9F3CF963BEC9D211A5C500805F15A0F304C7732D@ammex004.macom.com> Subject: Screen and COM port problems with Thinkpad 600 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:41:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I have a thinkpad 600 running Windows NT 4.0. The machine is about a year old. Recently, I've had a problem where the screen would intermittenly go black. The backlight still works and pc is still running, but the screen is just dead. I have to restart to get it back. Our IS guy said that I needed my BIOS flashed, which he did, and now I cannot get my serial port to function - plus the screen still blacks out ;(. Has anyone had any experience with either of these problems? Thanks, Cesar ------------------------------------ Cesar Maiorino maiorinc@tycoelectronics.com From cph Thu Feb 24 12:50:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA18223 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:50:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29472; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:45:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:45:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29260; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:45:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29190; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:44:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.89 -> anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:44:52 -0500 Received: from moab.demon.co.uk ([158.152.127.170]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12O2Jm-0002de-0V for ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:44:51 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 08:47:00 +0000 To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu From: Greg Terrell Subject: Re: Battery problem: Zero power, won't charge References: <6fl1mEAdats4EwvN@moab.demon.co.uk> <15954.000223@falkor.chi.il.us> In-Reply-To: <15954.000223@falkor.chi.il.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U List-Unsubscribe: Hi Ron The battery warranty is 12 months so you were lucky yours failed within 12 months! Greg In message <15954.000223@falkor.chi.il.us>, Ronald W. Heiby writes >Tuesday, February 22, 2000, 12:34:05 PM, Greg wrote: >GT> The battery in my 770 died at about 18 months > >Mine lasted slightly less than a year. > >GT> I only occasionally used it and left it in the machine as a UPS > >Me, too! > >GT> It exhibited similar behaviour to yours but reached the point where >GT> it would show a varying partial charge but that would only last a >GT> few minutes. > >Me, too. I called the support line and explained what I was seeing. >They sent me out a new battery and a label for me to send my old one >back. I had the impression that there was a particular part number >battery for the 770 family that wasn't quite "up to snuff". Doesn't >hurt to ask. > >Ron. > > -- Greg Terrell From cph Thu Feb 24 13:05:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA18308 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:05:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01363; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:00:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:00:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01249; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:00:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01235; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:00:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (198.144.192.5 -> shell.tsoft.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:00:15 -0500 Received: from NewPad (m205-90.dsl.tsoft.com [198.144.205.90]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA16836; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:59:28 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "James H. E. Maugham" , "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" , Cc: Subject: RE: IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $99 Finally ;-} Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:59:27 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: > Now I have to wait for the package to arrive to confirm that I indeed bought > the one described (comes with speakers and Ni-CAD battery, as well as the > PCMCIA card and cables) and _not_ the bare drive with only the PCMCIA card. > There seems to be a bit of confusion on the web pages, but not in the minds > of the order takers. Please don't shoot the messenger, but here's what you ordered: IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $99 ITEM #...1969-100 SERIES http://hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=3&sku=1969%2D100+SERIES and here's the one with the speakers: IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM DRIVE WITH PCMCIA CARD - $179 THESE BEAUTIFUL UNITS COME WITH SPEAKERS, POWER ADAPTER, RECHARGEABLE BATTERIES AND MUCH MORE - CHECK IT OUT! ITEM #...1969-011 http://hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=3&sku=1969%2D011 A month or two ago, they had a bunch of the 1969-011's and they sold for as low as $115 or so at one point. Now they just have a couple in stock and the price is way back up. Maybe you'll get lucky and it will turn out to be the one with the speakers after all! It should have the rechargable battery in either case. -Mike From cph Thu Feb 24 13:19:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA18430 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:19:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02746; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:14:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02665; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:14:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02652; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:14:16 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from snowmass.leopard.com (209.38.73.28 -> snowmass.leopard.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:14:16 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: Subject: Availability of 600X (650MHz) with Windows 2000? X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:10:03 GMT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on snowmass/Leopard(Release 5.0 |March 30, 1999) at 02/24/2000 11:10:05 AM, Serialize complete at 02/24/2000 11:10:05 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00642CC28725688F_=" List-Unsubscribe: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00642CC28725688F_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Has anyone seen availability of this system? I am looking for one. Of course, I can get the Windows 98 version and install Windows 2000, but I would prefer the 2000 native version (for both cost and hastle issues). Any ideas or referals? ssh --=_alternative 00642CC28725688F_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Has anyone seen availability of this system? I am looking for one. Of course, I can get the Windows 98 version and install Windows 2000, but I would prefer the 2000 native version (for both cost and hastle issues). Any ideas or referals?

ssh --=_alternative 00642CC28725688F_=-- From cph Thu Feb 24 13:25:34 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA18490 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:25:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03419; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:20:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:20:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03339; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:20:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03322; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:20:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:20:25 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M ([198.138.8.94]) by water.vramp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA21399; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:19:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from captjhem@waterw.com) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Michael Geary" , "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" , Subject: RE: IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $99 Finally ;-} Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:21:54 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id NAA03419 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id NAA18491 Mike and all, Michael Geary [mailto:Mike@Geary.com] wrote: > Please don't shoot the messenger, but here's what you ordered: > > IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $99 > ITEM #...1969-100 SERIES > > and here's the one with the speakers: > > IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM DRIVE WITH PCMCIA CARD - $179 > THESE BEAUTIFUL UNITS COME WITH SPEAKERS, POWER ADAPTER, > RECHARGEABLE BATTERIES AND MUCH MORE - CHECK IT OUT! > ITEM #...1969-011 > > A month or two ago, they had a bunch of the 1969-011's and they sold > for as low as $115 or so at one point. Now they just have a couple in > stock and the price is way back up. > > Maybe you'll get lucky and it will turn out to be the one with the > speakers after all! No shots required! Here's what the SYT at Louie's sent me in reply to my original post: Here's what I am sending you: 1969-100¦ 8X-20X PORTABLE CD-ROM DRIVE PCMCIA ¦ ¦ INCLUDES: 2 SPEAKERS, CLIPS AND CABLES ¦ ¦ NICD BATTERY PACK, AC ADAPTER ASM, AC ¦ ¦ LINE CORD, INTERFACE CABLE, PC CARD ¦ ¦ ASSEMBLY, INSTALLATION GUIDE, SET-UP ¦ ¦ DISK, & LASER SAFETY PUBLICATION. ¦ ¦ FEATURES: 16-BIT STEREO AUDIO, FM MUSIC ¦ ¦ SYNTHESIZER, JOYSTICK/MIDI PORT AND ¦ ¦ SUPPORT FOR WINDOWS 95 GAME API. WORKS ¦ ¦ WITH WINDOWS 3.1, WINDOWS 95, WINDOWS ¦ ¦ NT, IBM OS/2 WARP AND DOS 6.2. WORKS ¦ ¦ WITH THINKPADS: 310,315,365,380,385, ¦ ¦ SELECTADOCK I,II,III So I apparently "lucked out" and am getting the more expensive 1969-011. The confusion arose due to the fact that the link on the HTML version of the Insider Newsletter described the -011 rather than the -100, even though it had -100 in the banner. The -100 was as cheap as $89 just a week or two ago IIRC. I'll let you all know what actually arrives. Regards, James From cph Thu Feb 24 13:42:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA18601 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:42:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04919; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:36:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:36:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04844; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04831; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov (128.183.50.20 -> wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:36:41 -0500 Received: from dhelfrich.gsfc.nasa.gov (dhelfrich.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.215.1]) by wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05346; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:37:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <03b001bf7ef6$032e8c20$01d7b780@dhelfrich.gsfc.nasa.gov> From: "Dan Helfrich" To: "Greg Terrell" , Subject: Re: Battery problem: Zero power, won't charge Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:36:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Well, one of my TP600 lithium battery packs started showing signs of failure after about 13 months, but I explained it was already going bad before the 12 month warranty period was over, and I managed to get a free replacement by appealing to the supervisor. (My other original pack has also gone south since then.) But lately the "new" one's showing the same problem, only a few months after I received it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel D. Helfrich, Mechanical Systems Manager, EOS Chemistry Project NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Code 543, Greenbelt, MD, USA 20771 phone: (301)286-8481 fax: (301)286-1744 email: helfrich@gsfc.nasa.gov -----Original Message----- From: Greg Terrell To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thursday, February 24, 2000 12:46 PM Subject: Re: Battery problem: Zero power, won't charge >Hi Ron > >The battery warranty is 12 months so you were lucky yours failed within >12 months! > >Greg > >In message <15954.000223@falkor.chi.il.us>, Ronald W. Heiby > writes >>Tuesday, February 22, 2000, 12:34:05 PM, Greg wrote: >>GT> The battery in my 770 died at about 18 months >> >>Mine lasted slightly less than a year. >> >>GT> I only occasionally used it and left it in the machine as a UPS >> >>Me, too! >> >>GT> It exhibited similar behaviour to yours but reached the point where >>GT> it would show a varying partial charge but that would only last a >>GT> few minutes. >> >>Me, too. I called the support line and explained what I was seeing. >>They sent me out a new battery and a label for me to send my old one >>back. I had the impression that there was a particular part number >>battery for the 770 family that wasn't quite "up to snuff". Doesn't >>hurt to ask. >> >>Ron From cph Thu Feb 24 13:44:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA18619 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:44:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05320; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:39:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:39:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05239; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:39:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from fw1.uhc.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05221; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:39:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from fw1.uhc.com (168.183.16.135 -> gw.uhc.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:39:44 -0500 Received: from fw1.uhc.com (root@localhost) by fw1.uhc.com with ESMTP id MAA13055 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:39:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts-jl (rasgvnt0253.uhc.com [168.183.196.74]) by fw1.uhc.com with SMTP id MAA13008 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:39:41 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20000224133848.00933430@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jloyless@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:38:48 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Availability of 600X (650MHz) with Windows 2000? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 06:10 PM 02/24/2000 GMT, ssh@leopard.com wrote: >
Has anyone seen avail >ability of this system? I am looking for one. Of course, >I can get the Windows 98 version and install Windows 2000, >but I would prefer the 2000 native version (for both cost >and hastle issues). Any ideas or referals? >
>
ssh I thought this one wasn't actually available until March? Jane PS Please turn off your HTML. From cph Thu Feb 24 13:55:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA18733 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:55:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07099; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:53:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:52:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06990; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from p0016c23.us.kpmg.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06977; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:52:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from p0016c23.us.kpmg.com (199.207.255.23 -> p0016c23.us.kpmg.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:52:16 -0500 Received: from p0016c56.kweb.us.kpmg.com by p0016c23.us.kpmg.com(Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA29696 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:52:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from p0016c22.kweb.us.kpmg.com by p0016c56.kweb.us.kpmg.com via smtpd (for p0016c23.us.kpmg.com [199.207.255.23]) with SMTP; 24 Feb 2000 18:52:26 UT Received: from usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com by kpmg.com(Pro-8.9.2/Pro-8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA03674 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:52:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com (unverified) by usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:52:09 -0500 Received: by usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1Y2JJYFS>; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:52:09 -0500 Message-Id: <8389C74A65EFD111B03800805FA7658F050186CE@USDALEXC01> From: "Egbert, Scott K" To: "'Georg Diebel'" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: TP770: BIOS beep codes? Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:47:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: My TP600 does this same thing, and the numbers are 173 and 163. In fact, it happened to me this morning, which reminded of this post. I occasionally get a 192 in there too, like this morning. I always thought it was the real-time clock. For me, the time is usually only off by a few minutes, but this morning it was way off. I said it was 11 something yesterday. I wasn't able to find an answer on the exact problem, though. Does anyone have any ideas? - Scott Egbert segbert@kpmg.com -----Original Message----- From: Georg Diebel [mailto:g_diebel@lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 2:08 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP770: BIOS beep codes? Hi everyone, my TP770 behaved strangely yesterday: When switching it on after 2 or 3 days "off-time" (it was shut down completely and the battery was at 100%) it showed first the amount of memory (as usual) and two 3-digit numbers (went away too fast to write them down), beeped and showed "Error". I then came to the date/time adjust screen and I corrected the date (was one day ahead); then the thinkpad booted (after beeping 2 times in an unfamiliar fashion). Later, I again had to reboot it - and again, two unfamiliar beeps at the start (not booting Win98 yet, under BIOS control); otherwise, it booted as usual. Does anyone know what that means? Is there a BIOS battery going bad or so? Or could it have to do with a 3Com-PCMCIA-card which I have removed (only physically, not in the setup) and the BIOS wants to find? Thanks for any hint, Georg. -- Georg Diebel, Inst. for Integrated Circuits, Technical University of Munich Mailto:G_Diebel@lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de Phone: 0049-89-289-28578 Homepage: http://www.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de/people/gd.html ***************************************************************************** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. 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X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 From: Steve Hultquist Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:49:23 GMT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on snowmass/Leopard(Release 5.0 |March 30, 1999) at 02/24/2000 11:49:25 AM, Serialize complete at 02/24/2000 11:49:25 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Jane, Sorry about the HTML. But, doing stuff in Lotus Notes is a bit of a challenge. Anyway, I hadn't heard what the availability was. When I talked with the IBM retail folks, they told me late March. However, I didn't know if that was just availability from them or general availability (and they didn't seem to know, either). I had thought that I saw it available last week at some point... But, it's not now! ssh Jane Loyless 02/24/2000 11:38 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: Re: Availability of 600X (650MHz) with Windows 2000? At 06:10 PM 02/24/2000 GMT, ssh@leopard.com wrote: >
Has anyone seen avail >ability of this system? I am looking for one. Of course, >I can get the Windows 98 version and install Windows 2000, >but I would prefer the 2000 native version (for both cost >and hastle issues). Any ideas or referals? >
>
ssh I thought this one wasn't actually available until March? Jane PS Please turn off your HTML. From cph Thu Feb 24 14:28:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA19052 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:28:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10150; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:26:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10073; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:26:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.actionwebs.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10060; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:26:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.actionwebs.net (216.5.9.4 -> apollo.actionwebs.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:26:39 -0500 Received: from Hades ([216.5.9.162]) by smtp.actionwebs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA27289; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:23:08 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Mark Lemon" To: "'Maiorino, Cesar D.'" , "'Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail)'" Subject: RE: Screen and COM port problems with ThinkPad 600 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:21:10 -0600 Message-ID: <000301bf7f04$b12bd5e0$7700a8c0@Hades.Olympus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <9F3CF963BEC9D211A5C500805F15A0F304C7732D@ammex004.macom.com> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Cesar, I think the bios was a off-target guess. I'm also having intermittent screen probs also on my TP600. If yours runs fine using the VGA out, it would appear to be the ribbon cable to the screen. This was the consensus I also received when asking this same question a couple of weeks back. Get it in before the warranty expires! Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Maiorino, Cesar D. [mailto:maiorinc@tycoelectronics.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 11:42 AM > To: Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail) > Subject: Screen and COM port problems with Thinkpad 600 > > > Hi, > I have a thinkpad 600 running Windows NT 4.0. The machine is > about a year old. Recently, I've had a problem where the screen would > intermittenly go black. <> From cph Thu Feb 24 14:37:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA19120 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:37:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10668; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:33:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:33:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10585; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:33:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10548; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:32:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (38.8.20.2 -> relay20.smtp.psi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:32:43 -0500 Received: from [204.215.186.11] (helo=ntmail.doble.com) by relay20.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu id 12O408-0000Sc-00; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:32:40 -0500 Received: by NTMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1XTA7W4A>; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:28:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Workpad Z50 comments Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:28:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Hello, Remember the Z50? 8-> I used the Z50 for several weeks and it is not too bad. One amazing thing is how much heavier my Thinkpad 365ED is now 8->. I use an old small NCR case for the Z50. The case seems to weigh as much as the Z50. Good Points Pocket excel has enough features to be useful for my Genealogy research. The battery life is good enough to use it all day at a research library. Right now I am going through vital records for Maine and it is very easy to setup a column for each bit of information on a record. Each record is a row in the spreadsheet. Newer records tend to have added information so it is easy to insert a new column without messing up the format. Some records have so much information that you cannot use an 8-1/2x11 sheet and make colums for all the information. I deal with alot of Columnar information like census records. It looks like this will be very useful. Unfortunely not too much in the way of GEDCOM viewers and other dedicated Genealogy programs. I have a digital camera that uses smart media flash memory. I have a PCMCIA adapter for my Thinkpad 365ED. I tried reading the flash memory using the PCMCIA adapter in the Z50 and it works. A new folder is created. Opening the folder accesses files in the flash. My camera usually stores stuff as jpegs. I double clicked on a file, the web browser was brought up, and the picture was displayed! Drawing the picture was slow but this was a nice unexpected bonus. Bad Points Microsoft software 8->. Actually it would be nice if it could run DOS stuff or small win32 apps. Delorme Solus Pro mapping program does not support Version 2.11 Adaptec has WinCE drivers for the 1460 PCMCIA SCSI card. I cannot seem to get it to work with a ZIP Drive. A search of usenet seems to indicate it can be done. Maybe my card is too old? Summary To me it is worth the price I paid for it. I doubt I would get one at the old price. 73 Eric From cph Thu Feb 24 14:38:04 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA19135 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:38:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11003; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:35:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:35:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10923; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:35:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10897; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:35:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.tsoft.com (198.144.192.5 -> shell.tsoft.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:35:39 -0500 Received: from NewPad (m205-90.dsl.tsoft.com [198.144.205.90]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA01582; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:35:22 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael Geary" To: "James H. E. Maugham" , "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" , Subject: RE: IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $99 Finally ;-} Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:35:21 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by CS.UTK.EDU id OAA11003 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id OAA19137 > ... Here's what the SYT at Louie's sent me in reply to my > original post: > > Here's what I am sending you: > 1969-100¦ 8X-20X PORTABLE CD-ROM DRIVE PCMCIA ¦ > ¦ INCLUDES: 2 SPEAKERS ... Cool! A true bargain if everything turns out as described. -Mike From cph Thu Feb 24 15:04:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA19374 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:04:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13776; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:02:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:00:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13538; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:59:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from sand4.global.net.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13525; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:59:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from sand4.global.net.uk (195.147.246.106 -> sand4.global.net.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:59:58 -0500 Received: from p36s03a02.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.147.55]) by sand4.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12O4Sa-0005WT-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 20:02:05 +0000 From: Nick Dixon To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribing? Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 19:58:20 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id PAA19375 Hi there, Could someone please instruct on how to unsubscribe from the list? Thanks, Nick -- Digi News UK, for all UK Digital Broadcasting News. Subscribe FREE by sending a blank email to: diginews-subscribe@egroups.com or check out the website at http://www.diginews.co.uk From cph Thu Feb 24 15:26:36 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA19600 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:26:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16757; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:23:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:22:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16473; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:22:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16458; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.62 -> smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:22:18 -0500 Received: from 209-122-243-168.s168.tnt1.hlb.nj.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.243.168] helo=ppro) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12O4lz-000781-00; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:22:08 -0500 Received: by ppro (VPOP3) with SMTP; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:21:56 -0500 Message-ID: <0a6b01bf7f04$c5fe5740$0d00a8c0@dec5200> From: "R Briganti" To: "Cottrell, Eric" , References: Subject: Re: Workpad Z50 comments Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:21:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0b - Registered to: Belle Mead Claims List-Unsubscribe: Which Smartmedia adapter do you have and did it need CE drivers to work? Thanks. Bob > I have a digital camera that uses smart media flash memory. I have a > PCMCIA adapter for my > Thinkpad 365ED. I tried reading the flash memory using the PCMCIA adapter > in the Z50 and it > works. A new folder is created. Opening the folder accesses files in the > flash. My camera > usually stores stuff as jpegs. I double clicked on a file, the web browser > was brought up, > and the picture was displayed! Drawing the picture was slow but this was a > nice unexpected bonus. > From cph Thu Feb 24 15:27:12 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA19605 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:27:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16865; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:22:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16538; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange.optics.Arizona.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16525; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange.optics.Arizona.EDU (128.196.206.226 -> exchange.optics.arizona.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:22:42 -0500 Received: from spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu ([150.135.52.9]) by exchange.optics.Arizona.EDU with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id FSSWDT7D; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:22:40 -0700 Received: from europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU [150.135.52.30]) by spectra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10626 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:22:40 -0700 (MST) Received: (from stu@localhost) by europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) id NAA02320 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:22:39 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:22:39 -0700 (MST) From: Stuart Biggar Message-Id: <200002242022.NAA02320@europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Large HD for IBM 765D? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi, We are using a 765D for running NT and Solaris (dual boot). It is a bit tight with a 5 GB drive (largest listed by IBM for the 765 last time I looked). We need the CD so we can't dump the CD for a second 5 GB drive. Has anyone used anything larger? If so, could you let me know what worked and if there were any "features" with the new large drive and the 765. Note - I'm running a 14 GB the same way on a 770E - works nicely. Thanks, Stuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuart F. Biggar Phone: (520) 621-8168 Remote Sensing Group FAX: (520) 621-8292 Optical Sciences Center University of Arizona Meinel Building PO Box 210094 Tucson, AZ 85721-0094 Internet: Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.arizona.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cph Thu Feb 24 15:32:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA19673 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:32:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17645; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:29:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:28:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17450; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:28:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx-01a.tycoelectronics.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17430; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:28:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx-01a.tycoelectronics.com (12.26.84.138 -> mx-01a.tycoelectronics.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:28:24 -0500 Received: from ammexh01.amp.com (map012026084186.amp.com [12.26.84.186]) by mx-01a.tycoelectronics.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07611; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:28:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by ammexh01.amp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:28:14 -0500 Received: from ammex001.amp.com ([163.241.175.7]) by ammexh01.amp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id FRRLDP91; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:28:09 -0500 Received: by ammex001.amp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:28:09 -0500 From: "Maiorino, Cesar D." To: "'Stuart Biggar'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Message-ID: <9F3CF963BEC9D211A5C500805F15A0F304C7732E@ammex004.macom.com> Subject: RE: Screen and COM port problems with Thinkpad 600 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:28:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Thanks for the info. Here's where it gets weird. When I launch the utility program, my laptop freezes up. Hard reboot needed to restart. I downloaded the lastest version of the utility program with the same result. Thanks again, Cesar ------------------------------------ Cesar Maiorino maiorinc@tycoelectronics.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Biggar [SMTP:Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.Arizona.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 1:19 PM > To: Maiorino, Cesar D. > Subject: Re: Screen and COM port problems with Thinkpad 600 > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Feb 24 10:43:51 2000 > > From: "Maiorino, Cesar D." > > To: "Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail)" > > Subject: Screen and COM port problems with Thinkpad 600 > > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:41:57 -0500 > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > List-Unsubscribe: > > > > > Hi, > > I have a thinkpad 600 running Windows NT 4.0. The machine is about a > year > > old. Recently, I've had a problem where the screen would intermittenly > go > > black. The backlight still works and pc is still running, but the > screen is > > just dead. I have to restart to get it back. Our IS guy said that I > needed > > my BIOS flashed, which he > > did, and now I cannot get my serial port to function - plus the screen > still > > blacks out ;(. > > > > The default bios setup (on my 770E at least) has the serial > port OFF and IR on. Every time the newly flashed bios is > "initialized", the serial port is turned off and the IR on. > Use the utility program to turn the serial port on and then > shutdown (power off) and restart. Serial should be alive. > > Now for the other problem, are you sure the backlight is > working? My 770E had an inverter go out and the backlight > was off but the display was still working (you could tell > that by shining a VERY bright light on the screen). It > would normally recover after a power down/reboot but then > die again. > > Good luck, > > Stuart > > From cph Thu Feb 24 15:32:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA19678 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:32:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17847; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:30:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:28:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17508; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:28:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.leading.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17494; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:28:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.leading.net (207.98.192.90 -> smtp.leading.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:28:52 -0500 Received: from jnipper.fdn.com (jax6-028.leading.net [216.199.5.28]) by smtp.leading.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA02481 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:28:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38B5BDF4.6B2C@southeast.net> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:25:40 -0800 From: Computer-Guru Reply-To: pctech@southeast.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Old Thinkpads Forsale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Anyone on this list have a older Thinkpad forsale? I am in the USA. Thanks! -- Regards, Computer-Guru pctech@southeast.net ===================== From cph Thu Feb 24 15:34:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA19687 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:34:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18388; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:32:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:31:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18083; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:31:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx-01a.tycoelectronics.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18036; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx-01a.tycoelectronics.com (12.26.84.138 -> mx-01a.tycoelectronics.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:30:55 -0500 Received: from ammexh01.amp.com (map012026084186.amp.com [12.26.84.186]) by mx-01a.tycoelectronics.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08267; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by ammexh01.amp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:30:43 -0500 Received: from ammex001.amp.com ([163.241.175.7]) by ammexh01.amp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id FRRLDQCZ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:30:33 -0500 Received: by ammex001.amp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:30:32 -0500 From: "Maiorino, Cesar D." To: "'mlemon@hickseq.com'" , "'Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail)'" Message-ID: <9F3CF963BEC9D211A5C500805F15A0F304C7732F@ammex004.macom.com> Subject: RE: Screen and COM port problems with ThinkPad 600 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:30:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Mark, Thanks. I'll check the VGA out next time it dies. Cesar ------------------------------------ Cesar Maiorino maiorinc@tycoelectronics.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Lemon [SMTP:mlemon@hickseq.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 3:21 PM > To: Maiorino, Cesar D.; 'Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail)' > Subject: RE: Screen and COM port problems with ThinkPad 600 > > Cesar, > > I think the bios was a off-target guess. > > I'm also having intermittent screen probs also on my TP600. If yours runs > fine using the VGA out, it would appear to be the ribbon cable to the > screen. This was the consensus I also received when asking this same > question a couple of weeks back. > > Get it in before the warranty expires! > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Maiorino, Cesar D. [mailto:maiorinc@tycoelectronics.com] > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 11:42 AM > > To: Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail) > > Subject: Screen and COM port problems with Thinkpad 600 > > > > > > Hi, > > I have a thinkpad 600 running Windows NT 4.0. The machine is > > about a year old. Recently, I've had a problem where the screen would > > intermittenly go black. <> From cph Thu Feb 24 15:39:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA19771 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:39:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19255; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:37:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:36:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19000; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:36:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18974; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:36:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (147.225.51.39 -> mosquito.ny.ans.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:36:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (bkomar@localhost) by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA15483; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:36:04 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mosquito.ny.ans.net: bkomar owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:36:04 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: Nick Dixon cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: unsubscribing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Nick Dixon wrote: > Hi there, > > Could someone please instruct on how to unsubscribe from the list? > In order to List-Unsubscribe: mailto:thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu Subject=unsubscribe Have a nice day, Bruce Komar From cph Thu Feb 24 15:43:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA19815 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:43:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19773; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:42:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:42:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19688; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail0.mailsender.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19673; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:41:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail0.mailsender.net (209.132.1.30 -> mail0.mailsender.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:41:58 -0500 Received: from [216.59.0.202] (216.59.0.202) by mail0.mailsender.net; 24 Feb 2000 12:33:52 -0800 X-Sender: bosslady%msgeek.com@mail.msgeek.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:41:28 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michelle Klein-Hass Subject: Introducing myself and my Thinkpad... List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, My name is Michelle Klein-Hass and I have a Thinkpad 365X: 133MHz Pentium DSTN 800 x 600 pixel screen (not as good as TFT unfortunately) 40MB RAM 4.3GB HD External PCMCIA 24X CD-ROM Windows95 Retail with all applicable updates and service packs. I bought my 365X from Egghead.Com...Egghead represented the machine as having a CD-ROM drive but after visiting the IBM website I found out this was not the case. Egghead gave me a $75 offset because of this discrepancy, however this was not enough to buy an external CD-ROM. I strongly advise avoiding Egghead for these reasons. However, that out of the way...I LOVE MY THINKPAD!!! Take care, --.\\<-H-- "Thinkpad Different" Ms. Geek -- online since 1987 Never underestimate the power of a She-Geek! "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." -- R.A.W. Snailmail: Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273 From cph Thu Feb 24 17:21:33 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA20697 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:21:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01029; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:19:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00828; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:19:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00814; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:19:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (38.8.20.2 -> relay20.smtp.psi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:19:03 -0500 Received: from [204.215.186.11] (helo=ntmail.doble.com) by relay20.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 12O6b6-0005Ku-00; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:19:00 -0500 Received: by NTMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1XTA7W5Q>; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:14:56 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'R Briganti'" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Workpad Z50 comments Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:14:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I think it is a SSC one. It can handle 3.3V and 5V media up to 128 megs (I think). No drivers needed for Win95 or WinCE (Does not seem to need them). Under Win95 it installed as a hard disk controller and showed up as another disk drive. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com -----Original Message----- From: R Briganti [mailto:r.briganti@bellemead.com] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 3:22 PM To: Cottrell, Eric; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Workpad Z50 comments Which Smartmedia adapter do you have and did it need CE drivers to work? Thanks. Bob > I have a digital camera that uses smart media flash memory. I have a > PCMCIA adapter for my > Thinkpad 365ED. I tried reading the flash memory using the PCMCIA adapter > in the Z50 and it > works. A new folder is created. Opening the folder accesses files in the > flash. My camera > usually stores stuff as jpegs. I double clicked on a file, the web browser > was brought up, > and the picture was displayed! Drawing the picture was slow but this was a > nice unexpected bonus. > From cph Thu Feb 24 17:28:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA20764 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:28:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01718; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:26:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:26:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01645; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:26:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01630; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:26:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.51 -> mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:26:27 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.19.209]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000224222621.OCOB1630.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@compaq>; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:26:21 +0000 Message-ID: <38B5B002.27AC@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:26:10 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stuart Biggar CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Large HD for IBM 765D? References: <200002242022.NAA02320@europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have used a 6.4 gig in a 760XL with no problems at all. Stuart Biggar wrote: > > Hi, > > We are using a 765D for running NT and Solaris (dual boot). > It is a bit tight with a 5 GB drive (largest listed by IBM > for the 765 last time I looked). We need the CD so we can't > dump the CD for a second 5 GB drive. > > Has anyone used anything larger? If so, could you let me > know what worked and if there were any "features" with the > new large drive and the 765. > > Note - I'm running a 14 GB the same way on a 770E - works > nicely. > > Thanks, > > Stuart > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Stuart F. Biggar Phone: (520) 621-8168 > Remote Sensing Group FAX: (520) 621-8292 > Optical Sciences Center > University of Arizona > Meinel Building > PO Box 210094 > Tucson, AZ 85721-0094 Internet: Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.arizona.edu > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cph Thu Feb 24 18:37:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA21389 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:37:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06237; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:35:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:34:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06062; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:34:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06048; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:34:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.net (192.160.127.90 -> Kitten.mcs.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:34:19 -0500 Received: from heiby.pr.mcs.net (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04980 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:34:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from heiby@falkor.chi.il.us) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:34:01 -0600 From: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.38e) S/N 514531BD / Personal Reply-To: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9731.000224@falkor.chi.il.us> To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Air & car adapter to 770 In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, February 23, 2000, 10:35:45 AM, Geza wrote: GSsc> I'm trying to locate the model number for the TARGUS GSsc> Air & Car adapter what I can use with the 770 line. I don't know about the Targus adapter, but I purchased the PORT "emPower". Here are the numbers from its label: PWCF203 9000283 Rev B 1-800-350-PORT (apparently a phone number) The unit works fine in vehicles. The car power port adapter unclips >from the unit, leaving a weird looking connector with two large and two small pins. This is supposed to be some kind of standard connector for aircraft. But, since the airlines haven't quite figured out that it's the working stiffs in Coach who actually need to plug in, I've never had a chance to try it in a plane. Ron. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 Comment: Digital signature verifies authorship and unaltered content. iQA/AwUBOLW/5G8pw+2/9pUJEQLvKgCeJpPV+YLY42VdQrwXMIEpe3zd9CoAn2wl +huJTGhc6qQR/UFuTwQ9Zw6g =171z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph Thu Feb 24 18:38:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA21399 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:38:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06594; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:37:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:37:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06508; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:37:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06485; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.net (192.160.127.90 -> Kitten.mcs.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:37:00 -0500 Received: from heiby.pr.mcs.net (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05331 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:36:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from heiby@falkor.chi.il.us) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:36:55 -0600 From: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.38e) S/N 514531BD / Personal Reply-To: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18733.000224@falkor.chi.il.us> To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[2]: Battery problem: Zero power, won't charge In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, February 24, 2000, 2:47:00 AM, Greg wrote: GT> The battery warranty is 12 months so you were GT> lucky yours failed within 12 months! Hmm. I thought that the 3-year warranty covered the machine and everything that came with it. I knew that if I bought an additional battery as an "accessory", that it was just a year, but I thought that the 3-year on the system was "bumper to bumper". Ron. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 Comment: Digital signature verifies authorship and unaltered content. iQA/AwUBOLXAlG8pw+2/9pUJEQK6EwCfULEGUZmbe90sOEnaBAmoTxTocsUAmwR9 HuZLjb8E5BNZiLIYDsIj/pFz =GN5/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph Thu Feb 24 21:09:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA22325 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:09:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16148; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:06:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15948; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:06:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb00.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15935; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:06:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb00.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.200.31 -> fb00.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:06:20 -0500 Received: from ballarda (user-38ld0ep.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.129.217]) by fb00.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA22027; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:06:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004e01bf7f34$ba9f1d00$6f6f6f6f@ballarda> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Jason Savage" , "Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Windows 2000/NT/98/95 performance on 701? Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:05:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Well, MS is bullpucky all around. I run OS/2 on a GRID (by Tandy) 386 with 8 Mb Ram...... -----Original Message----- From: Jason Savage To: Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail) Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 1:46 PM Subject: RE: Windows 2000/NT/98/95 performance on 701? Personally I think Microsoft Minimum requirements for W2K are bullpucky. I'm running W2K Pro on my Toshiba Libretto 50ct with P75 and 32MB. I have Office97 loaded on this machine as well and have run Word Excel and Powerpoint simultaneously without getting low resource errors. Mind you, I get a lot of Hard Drive cracking when I do that. 8^) The machine has been completely usable so far. I'm also running W2K Advanced Server on a P166 non-mmx with 64MB of RAM. It runs fine as a Backup Domain Controller. I think for once Microsoft erred on the side of caution when it came to minimum requirements so that they did have a repeat of the complaints like they got from the 386 owners when 95 first shipped. However, I do think a ThinkPad 701C (DX4-75 with 40MB) might be pushing the envelope a little bit. 8^) Remember that W2K is a huge OS. Your looking at an average OS footprint of 1Gig. Make sure you have at least a 2Gig drive in your machine if you want to use it for more then loading the OS. 8^) Sincerely, Jason Savage Savage@MBnet.MB.CA -----Original Message----- From: Aaron R. Teitlebaum [SMTP:arteitle@engin.umich.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 7:24 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows 2000/NT/98/95 performance on 701? Tom Trottier wrote: > > Does anyone have any experience with apparent speed of the various > windoze on the 701? With how much memory? > > The M$ site says 486 works with w2000 & 32MB is the minimum: > http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWS2000/beta/askdev/99june30.asp This doesn't seem to be the case anymore.. Currently, Microsoft specifies a Pentium 133 with 64 MB RAM as the minimum for Win2k Professional; Win2k server requires even more RAM. I think that Win2k on a 701 would be intolerably slow. http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/upgrade/upgradereqs/default.asp Aaron Teitlebaum arteitle@engin.umich.edu From cph Thu Feb 24 23:24:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA22910 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:24:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22954; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:22:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:21:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22733; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:21:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.actionwebs.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22716; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:21:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.actionwebs.net (216.5.9.4 -> apollo.actionwebs.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:21:22 -0500 Received: from Hades ([216.5.9.162]) by smtp.actionwebs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA09595; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:18:03 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Mark Lemon" To: "'Ronald W. Heiby'" , Subject: RE: Re[2]: Battery problem: Zero power, won't charge Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:16:01 -0600 Message-ID: <000501bf7f4f$691522c0$7700a8c0@Hades.Olympus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <18733.000224@falkor.chi.il.us> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: FYI In the semi-fine print on the warranty for ALL TP's... the battery is only a year. All else appears covered. Mark > > Hmm. I thought that the 3-year warranty covered the machine and > everything that came with it. I knew that if I bought an additional > battery as an "accessory", that it was just a year, but I thought that > the 3-year on the system was "bumper to bumper". > > Ron. > From cph Fri Feb 25 02:28:16 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA23807 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:28:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00714; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:25:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:25:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00608; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00595; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:24:58 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-8.gate.net [207.36.212.8]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA64046; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:24:33 -0500 Message-ID: <38B62E2D.8BFE704C@gate.net> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:24:29 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net CC: Stuart Biggar , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Large HD for IBM 765D? References: <200002242022.NAA02320@europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> <38B5B002.27AC@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: 6.4gig drives DO work fine in the 760 series (760C, CD, E, ED, X, 765D & L), and the 750 series (750, 755C, CD, CE, et al.,).. and, of course all newer thinkpads.. also 365E and X series, 360 series AND the 701 series.. be aware, that, for some strange reason, the nice toshiba 8mm 6,4gig drive does NOT work corrently in the 701's.. Bruce Markowitz wrote: > I have used a 6.4 gig in a 760XL with no problems at all. > > Stuart Biggar wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > We are using a 765D for running NT and Solaris (dual boot). > > It is a bit tight with a 5 GB drive (largest listed by IBM > > for the 765 last time I looked). We need the CD so we can't > > dump the CD for a second 5 GB drive. > > > > Has anyone used anything larger? If so, could you let me > > know what worked and if there were any "features" with the > > new large drive and the 765. > > > > Note - I'm running a 14 GB the same way on a 770E - works > > nicely. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Stuart > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Stuart F. Biggar Phone: (520) 621-8168 > > Remote Sensing Group FAX: (520) 621-8292 > > Optical Sciences Center > > University of Arizona > > Meinel Building > > PO Box 210094 > > Tucson, AZ 85721-0094 Internet: Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.arizona.edu > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Fri Feb 25 02:56:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA23872 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:56:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01915; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:54:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01818; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:54:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01800; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:54:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:54:01 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-8.gate.net [207.36.212.8]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA56854; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:53:51 -0500 Message-ID: <38B6350A.E8645136@gate.net> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:53:47 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michelle Klein-Hass CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Introducing myself and my Thinkpad... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: FWIW, that 365X will accept up to a 6.4gig HDD and a 64meg DIMM, which would yeild 72megs of memory.. :-) Michelle Klein-Hass wrote: > Hi all, > > My name is Michelle Klein-Hass and I have a Thinkpad 365X: > 133MHz Pentium > DSTN 800 x 600 pixel screen (not as good as TFT unfortunately) > 40MB RAM > 4.3GB HD > External PCMCIA 24X CD-ROM > Windows95 Retail with all applicable updates and service packs. > > I bought my 365X from Egghead.Com...Egghead represented the machine as > having a CD-ROM drive but after visiting the IBM website I found out this > was not the case. Egghead gave me a $75 offset because of this discrepancy, > however this was not enough to buy an external CD-ROM. I strongly advise > avoiding Egghead for these reasons. > > However, that out of the way...I LOVE MY THINKPAD!!! > > Take care, > --.\\<-H-- > "Thinkpad Different" > > Ms. Geek -- online since 1987 > Never underestimate the power of a She-Geek! > "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." -- R.A.W. > Snailmail: Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273 -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Fri Feb 25 03:01:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA23883 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 03:01:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02279; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:59:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02206; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02193; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:59:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:59:10 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-264.gate.net [199.227.173.10]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA36920 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:59:08 -0500 Message-ID: <38B63647.91ED964F@gate.net> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:59:03 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: Memory prices are slowly falling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Thought to mention that memory prices are slowly falling.. my memory guy says, however, to watch out in march for an increase.. also, note: if china starts to fulminate at formosa (taiwan) anything can happen.. :-) -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Fri Feb 25 07:15:15 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA24628 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:15:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23531; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:13:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:12:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23415; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:12:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.leading.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23396; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:12:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.leading.net (207.98.192.90 -> smtp.leading.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:12:55 -0500 Received: from jnipper.fdn.com (jaxtnt1-19.fdn.com [216.199.4.33]) by smtp.leading.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA21925 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:12:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38B69B32.A4@southeast.net> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:09:38 -0800 From: Computer-Guru Reply-To: pctech@southeast.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: WTB: Battery & Acadapter for IBM 755c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello Everyone, I am looking to buy a new or used battery(s) and Ac-Adapter for an IBM Thinkpad Model 755c. Both must be cheap as I only paid very little for the laptop, and do not want to spend a bunch on an adapter for it. Please let me know how much your asking and how long the battery holds it's charge. Thanks. -- Regards, Computer-Guru pctech@southeast.net ===================== From cph Fri Feb 25 07:36:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA24658 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:36:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25026; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:34:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:34:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA24951; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA24933; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:34:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from generics.co.uk (194.216.39.130 -> mailgate.generics.co.uk) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:34:17 -0500 Received: from jeanluc (jeanluc.generics.co.uk [194.216.39.131]) by generics.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA09615; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:33:37 GMT Received: from smtpgate2.scigen.co.uk (smtpgate2 [172.20.1.9]) by scigen.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA09342; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:33:05 GMT Message-Id: From: Adam Quantrill Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:34:11 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Computer-Guru Subject: Re: WTB: Battery & Acadapter for IBM 755c MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221000000/221020552/0/221110198/222140740/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 137e" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id HAA24659 Therein lies the rub! You frequently find that you can pick up one of the lower-end machines with no battery very cheaply, but battery prices are just as expensive as for the high-end machines. It's turned the economics of owning a low-end machine on its head. For example I have a 755C and the battery went pop. It was cheaper to buy a broken 755CX with a good battery, and fix the CX, than get a new battery for the 755C. I still use the 755C but only near a mains supply, and the 755CX is now my mobile machine. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: WTB: Battery & Acadapter for IBM 755c Author: MIME:Computer-Guru at INTERNET Date: 2/25/00 12:15 PM Hello Everyone, I am looking to buy a new or used battery(s) and Ac-Adapter for an IBM Thinkpad Model 755c. Both must be cheap as I only paid very little for the laptop, and do not want to spend a bunch on an adapter for it. Please let me know how much your asking and how long the battery holds it's charge. Thanks. -- Regards, Computer-Guru pctech@southeast.net ===================== ------------------------------------------------------------ Scientific Generics Limited Tel: +44 1223 875200 Harston Mill Fax: +44 1223 875201 Harston http://www.generics.co.uk Cambridge CB2 5NH United Kingdom Registered in England No 2081960 ------------------------------------------------------------ From cph Fri Feb 25 07:43:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id HAA24671 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:43:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25659; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:41:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:41:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25586; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:41:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.leading.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25571; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:41:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.leading.net (207.98.192.90 -> smtp.leading.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:41:21 -0500 Received: from jnipper.fdn.com (jaxtnt1-19.fdn.com [216.199.4.33]) by smtp.leading.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA22454 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:41:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38B6A1CE.6FE5@southeast.net> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:38:04 -0800 From: Computer-Guru Reply-To: pctech@southeast.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: WTB: HDD Upgrade for IBM 755c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I am also interested in getting a few more HDD's for my IBM 755c. Please list size and asking price. -- Regards, Computer-Guru pctech@southeast.net ===================== From cph Fri Feb 25 09:11:38 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA24980 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:11:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03315; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:59:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:56:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02986; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3004.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02971; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:56:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3004.mail.yahoo.com (204.71.202.167 -> web3004.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:56:40 -0500 Received: (qmail 17690 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Feb 2000 13:56:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20000225135638.17689.qmail@web3004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [146.176.137.10] by web3004.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 05:56:38 PST Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 05:56:38 -0800 (PST) From: james gibbinson Subject: Is this the user site??????? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: To who ever I have been given this address as the right place to come for querys and advice about thinkpads. I have a very old but very usefull 360 model and would be greatfull for help at times about finding spares or upgrade advice. If this is the right place or if you know of other places to go please send them to me Thanks James __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From cph Fri Feb 25 11:30:35 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA25799 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:30:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17247; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:26:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16924; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16708; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (38.8.20.2 -> relay20.smtp.psi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:24:54 -0500 Received: from [204.215.186.11] (helo=ntmail.doble.com) by relay20.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 12ONXi-0005rf-00; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:24:39 -0500 Received: by NTMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1XTA7XQV>; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:09:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'penzance@gate.net'" , scosgt@worldnet.att.net Cc: Stuart Biggar , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Large HD for IBM 765D? Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:09:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 2:24 AM To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net Cc: Stuart Biggar; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Large HD for IBM 765D? 6.4gig drives DO work fine in the 760 series (760C, CD, E, ED, X, 765D & L), and the 750 series (750, 755C, CD, CE, et al.,).. and, of course all newer thinkpads.. also 365E and X series, 360 series AND the 701 series.. be aware, that, for some strange reason, the nice toshiba 8mm 6,4gig drive does NOT work corrently in the 701's.. Hello, I have a 365ED and put a 3 Gig drive in it. Unfortunely Windows 95 did not recognize the drive translation used by the bios so it put the drives in compatibility mode. I was able to use OnTrak Disk Manager and get it to work properly. The only "problem" is the error message about the phdisk partition. The version of Phdisk does not work with OnTrak so I cannot suspend to disk. I used a 1 gig drive without problems and I suspect that anything up to 2 gig will work without need of OnTrak. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com WB1HBU From cph Fri Feb 25 11:33:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA25832 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:33:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17619; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:31:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17507; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:31:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17494; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:31:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (38.8.20.2 -> relay20.smtp.psi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:31:19 -0500 Received: from [204.215.186.11] (helo=ntmail.doble.com) by relay20.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 12ONe8-00060H-00; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:31:16 -0500 Received: by NTMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1XTA7XR4>; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:23:45 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'R Briganti'" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Workpad Z50 comments Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:23:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Hello, The Smart Media PCMCIA card is a Microtech SSFDC/ADP16. The only problem with it is the diagrams that show how to insert the smart media has the notch on the wrong side. You need to follow the instructions in the cover booklet. This thing has interesting packaging as it is done in a CD Jewel Case with the CD holder replaced by a foam square with a cutout for the card. The instructions are in the little booklet that slips into the cover part like a music CD. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com -----Original Message----- From: R Briganti [mailto:r.briganti@bellemead.com] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 3:22 PM To: Cottrell, Eric; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Workpad Z50 comments Which Smartmedia adapter do you have and did it need CE drivers to work? Thanks. 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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:00:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I found out what all the errors mean after searching the IBM web site. The 163 and 173 errors are faulty CMOS Backup Battery errors (I was also told this by Denis Hall). The 192 is a faulty Cooling Fan error. For those who are wondering where I got them, I did a search for POST error and it listed all the possible startup error codes. It then takes you through an online question/answer session to determine the problem. - Scott Egbert segbert@kpmg.com -----Original Message----- From: Egbert, Scott K [mailto:segbert@kpmg.com] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 11:48 AM To: 'Georg Diebel'; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: TP770: BIOS beep codes? My TP600 does this same thing, and the numbers are 173 and 163. In fact, it happened to me this morning, which reminded of this post. I occasionally get a 192 in there too, like this morning. I always thought it was the real-time clock. For me, the time is usually only off by a few minutes, but this morning it was way off. I said it was 11 something yesterday. I wasn't able to find an answer on the exact problem, though. Does anyone have any ideas? - Scott Egbert segbert@kpmg.com -----Original Message----- From: Georg Diebel [mailto:g_diebel@lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 2:08 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP770: BIOS beep codes? Hi everyone, my TP770 behaved strangely yesterday: When switching it on after 2 or 3 days "off-time" (it was shut down completely and the battery was at 100%) it showed first the amount of memory (as usual) and two 3-digit numbers (went away too fast to write them down), beeped and showed "Error". I then came to the date/time adjust screen and I corrected the date (was one day ahead); then the thinkpad booted (after beeping 2 times in an unfamiliar fashion). Later, I again had to reboot it - and again, two unfamiliar beeps at the start (not booting Win98 yet, under BIOS control); otherwise, it booted as usual. Does anyone know what that means? Is there a BIOS battery going bad or so? Or could it have to do with a 3Com-PCMCIA-card which I have removed (only physically, not in the setup) and the BIOS wants to find? Thanks for any hint, Georg. -- Georg Diebel, Inst. for Integrated Circuits, Technical University of Munich Mailto:G_Diebel@lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de Phone: 0049-89-289-28578 Homepage: http://www.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de/people/gd.html **************************************************************************** * The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. 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When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. ***************************************************************************** From cph Fri Feb 25 19:21:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA29254 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:21:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24329; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:16:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:15:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24169; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:15:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot007.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24155; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot007.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.107 -> pilot007.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:15:18 -0500 Received: from andres (pm454-44.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.246]) by pilot007.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA12400 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:15:03 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000225191024.00a45da0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:10:24 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: RE: TP770: BIOS beep codes? In-Reply-To: <8389C74A65EFD111B03800805FA7658F050186D1@USDALEXC01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: You know, it sounds like this would make a nice start on some web site for all those codes. ...Bill? Are you willing to start something like this? STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 05:00 PM 2/25/2000 -0500, Egbert, Scott K wrote: >I found out what all the errors mean after searching the IBM web site. The >163 and 173 errors are faulty CMOS Backup Battery errors (I was also told >this by Denis Hall). The 192 is a faulty Cooling Fan error. For those who >are wondering where I got them, I did a search for POST error and it listed >all the possible startup error codes. It then takes you through an online >question/answer session to determine the problem. > >- >Scott Egbert >segbert@kpmg.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Egbert, Scott K [mailto:segbert@kpmg.com] >Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 11:48 AM >To: 'Georg Diebel'; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: RE: TP770: BIOS beep codes? > > >My TP600 does this same thing, and the numbers are 173 and 163. In fact, it >happened to me this morning, which reminded of this post. I occasionally >get a 192 in there too, like this morning. I always thought it was the >real-time clock. For me, the time is usually only off by a few minutes, but >this morning it was way off. I said it was 11 something yesterday. I >wasn't able to find an answer on the exact problem, though. Does anyone >have any ideas? > >- >Scott Egbert >segbert@kpmg.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Georg Diebel [mailto:g_diebel@lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de] >Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 2:08 AM >To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: TP770: BIOS beep codes? > > >Hi everyone, > >my TP770 behaved strangely yesterday: > >When switching it on after 2 or 3 days "off-time" (it was shut down >completely and the battery was at 100%) it showed first the amount of >memory (as usual) and two 3-digit numbers (went away too fast to write them >down), beeped and showed "Error". > >I then came to the date/time adjust screen and I corrected the date (was >one day ahead); then the thinkpad booted (after beeping 2 times in an >unfamiliar fashion). > >Later, I again had to reboot it - and again, two unfamiliar beeps at the >start (not booting Win98 yet, under BIOS control); otherwise, it booted as >usual. > >Does anyone know what that means? Is there a BIOS battery going bad or so? >Or could it have to do with a 3Com-PCMCIA-card which I have removed (only >physically, not in the setup) and the BIOS wants to find? > >Thanks for any hint, > >Georg. >-- > >Georg Diebel, Inst. for Integrated Circuits, Technical University of Munich > Mailto:G_Diebel@lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de > Phone: 0049-89-289-28578 > Homepage: http://www.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de/people/gd.html >**************************************************************************** >* >The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. >It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else >is unauthorized. > >If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution >or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited >and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice >contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in >the governing KPMG client engagement letter. >**************************************************************************** >* >***************************************************************************** >The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. >It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else >is unauthorized. > >If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution >or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited >and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice >contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in >the governing KPMG client engagement letter. >***************************************************************************** > > From cph Fri Feb 25 21:46:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA30130 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:46:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01093; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:45:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:44:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00950; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ptldpop2.ptld.uswest.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00933; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ptldpop2.ptld.uswest.net (198.36.160.2 -> ptldpop2.ptld.uswest.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:43:58 -0500 Received: (qmail 19407 invoked by alias); 26 Feb 2000 02:43:46 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 19383 invoked by uid 0); 26 Feb 2000 02:43:45 -0000 Received: from dialupn66.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (216.161.83.66) by ptldpop2.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 26 Feb 2000 02:43:45 -0000 Message-ID: <38B73DA8.4310FB73@uswest.net> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:42:48 -0800 From: Patrick West Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: james gibbinson , Thinkpad Mailing list Subject: Re: Is this the user site??????? References: <20000225135638.17689.qmail@web3004.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: You're in the right place. I myself use a tp 360cse with 36 meg RAM. I have two 500 meg drives, one 800 meg hd and one 2.1 gig hd. I use a port replacator and a Dock 1 with a scsi zip and a scsi 1.2 gig hd. I run Windows95, OS/2 Warp 4, OS/2 Warp 3 and have briefly ran NT4.0 on it. I am putting Linus on on drive (abit slowly). james gibbinson wrote: > > I have been given this address as the right place to > come for querys and advice about thinkpads. > > I have a very old but very usefull 360 model and would > be greatfull for help at times about finding spares or > upgrade advice. > > If this is the right place or if you know of other > places to go please send them to me > > Thanks > > James > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com -- Patrick West pgp 2.6.2 key fingerprint = 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E 41 From cph Sat Feb 26 04:59:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA31444 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:59:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23437; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:58:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:56:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23342; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA23329; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:56:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.19 -> fb01.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:56:35 -0500 Received: from ballarda (user-38ld0q6.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.131.70]) by fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA22274; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:56:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <009701bf803f$9833cd90$6f6f6f6f@ballarda> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "pirate" Cc: Subject: Re: USB for vintage thinkpads Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:55:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I have a 2 port USB card working on a 760XL. Can't get my digital microscope to wok though cuz the idiots only write drivers for Win98 and I run Win95 OSR2. -----Original Message----- From: pirate Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 5:24 PM Subject: USB for vintage thinkpads >--Hey everyone, a while back we had a string discussing whether or not it would >be possible to put USB on older thinkpad machines. Well I 've found a few >things that'll do the trick. I've just entered the PDA arena with my trusty new >IBM workpad 20x, and looking for toys for it in Mobile Planet I've found some >USB adapters for PCMCIA. I've also found a whole bunch of other adapters that >will connect to the PC card slot and give you all kinds of ports, all bundled >together. There are some really cool items on their website, but their >catalogue has even more stuff. Just FYI. > > Cheers, > Keith > Honolulu, Hawaii > > > Keith Wong > System Admin - Document Imaging > Honolulu Police Department - Records Division > Office: (808) 529-3434 > Emails: wongk007@hawaii.rr.com > pirate@lava.net > kwong@email.uophx.edu > > From cph Sat Feb 26 09:23:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA00698 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:23:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07091; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:22:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:15:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06824; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:15:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3806.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06811; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:15:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3806.mail.yahoo.com (204.71.203.177 -> web3806.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:15:56 -0500 Message-ID: <20000226141555.10835.qmail@web3806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.4.253.3] by web3806.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 06:15:55 PST Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 06:15:55 -0800 (PST) From: Garrett Kaste Subject: Re: USB for vintage thinkpads To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: There is really only 1 thing to consider if you want to add USB ports via pc card. The pc cards slots must be Cardbus compliant. That means they will be on a pci bus which is required for usb. If you goto ibms web page and look up your laptop, then goto product infromation, it will tell you if you are cardbus compalitat, if so, it will work. Garrett. --- Allan Ballard wrote: > I have a 2 port USB card working on a 760XL. > Can't get my digital microscope to wok though > cuz the idiots only write drivers for Win98 and > I run Win95 OSR2. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pirate > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 5:24 PM > Subject: USB for vintage thinkpads > > > >--Hey everyone, a while back we had a string > discussing whether or not it > would > >be possible to put USB on older thinkpad machines. > Well I 've found a few > >things that'll do the trick. I've just entered the > PDA arena with my > trusty new > >IBM workpad 20x, and looking for toys for it in > Mobile Planet I've found > some > >USB adapters for PCMCIA. I've also found a whole > bunch of other adapters > that > >will connect to the PC card slot and give you all > kinds of ports, all > bundled > >together. There are some really cool items on > their website, but their > >catalogue has even more stuff. Just FYI. > > > > Cheers, > > Keith > > Honolulu, Hawaii > > > > > > Keith Wong > > System Admin - Document Imaging > > Honolulu Police Department - Records Division > > Office: (808) 529-3434 > > Emails: wongk007@hawaii.rr.com > > pirate@lava.net > > kwong@email.uophx.edu > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph Sat Feb 26 12:51:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA01882 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:51:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16063; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:50:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:49:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15896; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:49:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15882; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:49:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.62 -> smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:49:19 -0500 Received: from 216-164-139-44.s298.tnt5.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.139.44] helo=localhost) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12OlL3-0000ii-00 for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:49:09 -0500 From: Rusty Lingenfelter Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 17:51:23 GMT Message-ID: <20000226.17512300@mis.configured.host> Subject: Re: USB for vintage thinkpads To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.1; Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id MAA01883 OK, so is there any solution for those of us who have non-Cardbus slots (i.e. 701CS owners). Rusty From cph Sat Feb 26 12:57:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA01933 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:57:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16512; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:57:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:57:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16440; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from web112.yahoomail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16416; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:57:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from web112.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.82 -> web112.yahoomail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:57:03 -0500 Received: (qmail 21678 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Feb 2000 18:00:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20000226180044.21677.qmail@web112.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.253.244.36] by web112.yahoomail.com; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 10:00:44 PST Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 10:00:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: Re: USB for vintage thinkpads To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I don't think there are any pc card to USB adapters that work in laptops. I tried all the ones at Fry's in my 760EL and also in a Dell P-166 with no luck. --- Rusty Lingenfelter wrote: > OK, so is there any solution for those of us who > have non-Cardbus > slots (i.e. 701CS owners). > > Rusty > > > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From cph Sat Feb 26 16:11:24 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA02711 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:11:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25310; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:09:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25212; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:09:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25199; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:09:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:09:56 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.19.61]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000226210955.KZXM20625@compaq>; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:09:55 +0000 Message-ID: <38B8411A.803@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:09:46 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Steve C." CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: USB for vintage thinkpads References: <20000226180044.21677.qmail@web112.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: There ARE PCMCIA USB adaptor cards. They REQUIRE that the machinbe have CARDBUS PCMCIA. THe 760E series should! But, you may need to enable it in device manager. Remember, CARDBUS is a 32 bit bus. You MUST have a machine with PCI bus for it to be present. Steve C. wrote: > > I don't think there are any pc card to USB adapters > that work in laptops. I tried all the ones at Fry's > in my 760EL and also in a Dell P-166 with no luck. > > --- Rusty Lingenfelter wrote: > > OK, so is there any solution for those of us who > > have non-Cardbus > > slots (i.e. 701CS owners). > > > > Rusty > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com From cph Sat Feb 26 16:24:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA02753 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:24:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26023; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:23:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25927; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:23:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25914; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:23:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (4.21.209.242 -> exch1.smh.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:23:03 -0500 Received: by exch1.smh.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:21:09 -0500 Message-ID: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1DAC@exch1.smh.com> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: "'STeve Andre' '" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu '" Subject: RE: TP770: BIOS beep codes? Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 16:21:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Greetings, My daughter's 701C occasionally gives us a 163/173 error. Is it possible to replace the CMOS battery on a 701 without resorting to "easyserv"? Is the battery a RadioShack part or do we need to order it from IBM? Regards, Neil TP 770ED (win98/win2000 dual boot-w2k likes the 770!) TP 600 TP 701C TP 730 (recent acquisition. list members have been most helpful!) -----Original Message----- From: STeve Andre' To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sent: 2/25/00 7:10 PM Subject: RE: TP770: BIOS beep codes? You know, it sounds like this would make a nice start on some web site for all those codes. ...Bill? Are you willing to start something like this? STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 05:00 PM 2/25/2000 -0500, Egbert, Scott K wrote: >I found out what all the errors mean after searching the IBM web site. The >163 and 173 errors are faulty CMOS Backup Battery errors (I was also told >this by Denis Hall). The 192 is a faulty Cooling Fan error. For those who >are wondering where I got them, I did a search for POST error and it listed >all the possible startup error codes. It then takes you through an online >question/answer session to determine the problem. > >- >Scott Egbert >segbert@kpmg.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Egbert, Scott K [mailto:segbert@kpmg.com] >Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 11:48 AM >To: 'Georg Diebel'; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: RE: TP770: BIOS beep codes? > > >My TP600 does this same thing, and the numbers are 173 and 163. In fact, it >happened to me this morning, which reminded of this post. I occasionally >get a 192 in there too, like this morning. I always thought it was the >real-time clock. For me, the time is usually only off by a few minutes, but >this morning it was way off. I said it was 11 something yesterday. I >wasn't able to find an answer on the exact problem, though. Does anyone >have any ideas? > >- >Scott Egbert >segbert@kpmg.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Georg Diebel [mailto:g_diebel@lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de] >Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 2:08 AM >To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: TP770: BIOS beep codes? > > >Hi everyone, > >my TP770 behaved strangely yesterday: > >When switching it on after 2 or 3 days "off-time" (it was shut down >completely and the battery was at 100%) it showed first the amount of >memory (as usual) and two 3-digit numbers (went away too fast to write them >down), beeped and showed "Error". > >I then came to the date/time adjust screen and I corrected the date (was >one day ahead); then the thinkpad booted (after beeping 2 times in an >unfamiliar fashion). > >Later, I again had to reboot it - and again, two unfamiliar beeps at the >start (not booting Win98 yet, under BIOS control); otherwise, it booted as >usual. > >Does anyone know what that means? Is there a BIOS battery going bad or so? >Or could it have to do with a 3Com-PCMCIA-card which I have removed (only >physically, not in the setup) and the BIOS wants to find? > >Thanks for any hint, > >Georg. >-- > >Georg Diebel, Inst. for Integrated Circuits, Technical University of Munich > Mailto:G_Diebel@lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de > Phone: 0049-89-289-28578 > Homepage: http://www.lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de/people/gd.html >*********************************************************************** ***** >* >The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. >It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else >is unauthorized. > >If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution >or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited >and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice >contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in >the governing KPMG client engagement letter. >*********************************************************************** ***** >* >*********************************************************************** ****** >The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. >It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else >is unauthorized. > >If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution >or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited >and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice >contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in >the governing KPMG client engagement letter. >*********************************************************************** ****** > > From cph Sat Feb 26 18:33:38 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA03131 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:33:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01598; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:30:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01449; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:30:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail0.mailsender.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01436; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:30:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail0.mailsender.net (209.132.1.30 -> mail0.mailsender.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:30:50 -0500 Received: from [216.59.0.202] (216.59.0.202) by mail0.mailsender.net (5.0.024) id 38B7A1520000D2DC for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 15:22:42 -0800 X-Sender: bosslady%msgeek.com@mail.msgeek.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38B8411A.803@worldnet.att.net> References: <20000226180044.21677.qmail@web112.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 15:30:14 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michelle Klein-Hass Subject: Re: USB for vintage thinkpads List-Unsubscribe: >There ARE PCMCIA USB adaptor cards. They REQUIRE that the machinbe have >CARDBUS PCMCIA. THe 760E series should! But, you may need to enable it >in device manager. >Remember, CARDBUS is a 32 bit bus. You MUST have a machine with PCI bus >for it to be present. I think you also need either Windows95 OSR2 with USB Support or Windows98 to use Cardbus cards. Cardbus support started back then, if I'm not mistaken. Since I am running the original Windows95 Retail on my Thinkpad, I have to use regular PCMCIA rather than Cardbus PCMCIA. But I think the 365-series is capable of utilizing Cardbus. I wish that Micro$oft had put out Windows98 in 3.5" floppy format...I don't trust loading the OS using my external PCMCIA CD-ROM... --.\\<-H-- Ms. Geek -- online since 1987 Never underestimate the power of a She-Geek! "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." -- R.A.W. Snailmail: Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273 From cph Sat Feb 26 18:36:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA03147 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:36:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01829; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:35:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:35:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01724; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:35:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01711; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:35:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:35:35 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.15.203]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000226233529.MMBY20625@compaq>; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 23:35:29 +0000 Message-ID: <38B86338.73DE@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:35:20 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michelle Klein-Hass CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: USB for vintage thinkpads References: <20000226180044.21677.qmail@web112.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Use your external CD drive to copy the Win98 directory onto your hard drive. Then do the install from the hard drive. Michelle Klein-Hass wrote: > > >There ARE PCMCIA USB adaptor cards. They REQUIRE that the machinbe have > >CARDBUS PCMCIA. THe 760E series should! But, you may need to enable it > >in device manager. > >Remember, CARDBUS is a 32 bit bus. You MUST have a machine with PCI bus > >for it to be present. > > I think you also need either Windows95 OSR2 with USB Support or Windows98 > to use Cardbus cards. Cardbus support started back then, if I'm not > mistaken. Since I am running the original Windows95 Retail on my Thinkpad, > I have to use regular PCMCIA rather than Cardbus PCMCIA. But I think the > 365-series is capable of utilizing Cardbus. > > I wish that Micro$oft had put out Windows98 in 3.5" floppy format...I don't > trust loading the OS using my external PCMCIA CD-ROM... > > --.\\<-H-- > > Ms. Geek -- online since 1987 > Never underestimate the power of a She-Geek! > "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." -- R.A.W. > Snailmail: Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273 From cph Sat Feb 26 20:06:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA03381 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:06:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05320; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:03:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05215; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:03:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ziplink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05202; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:03:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ziplink.net (206.15.168.49 -> relay-0.ziplink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:03:50 -0500 Received: from dallas (ip223.bedford2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.10.223]) by ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA23145; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:03:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike Capone" To: "Michelle Klein-Hass" Cc: Subject: RE: USB for vintage thinkpads Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:03:45 -0500 Message-ID: <000101bf80be$7f118760$1b00a8c0@dallas> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: > >for it to be present. > > I think you also need either Windows95 OSR2 with USB Support or Windows98 > to use Cardbus cards. Cardbus support started back then, if I'm not > mistaken. Since I am running the original Windows95 Retail on my Thinkpad, > I have to use regular PCMCIA rather than Cardbus PCMCIA. But I think the > 365-series is capable of utilizing Cardbus. Win95OSR2 has support for _some_ usb devices, mainly printers, scanners, mice and keyboards, but anything that is more exotic than that usually will not be supported (well) if at all. I'm not sure why this trend exists, but it is annoying. I would have preferred to stay with win95 OSR2 myself because it is typically faster... But my dig. camera (a kodak DC290) will not work with win95. > > I wish that Micro$oft had put out Windows98 in 3.5" floppy > format...I don't > trust loading the OS using my external PCMCIA CD-ROM... > Dump the \Win98 files onto your harddisk into C:\Win98 or wherever. Then shut down from windows and do deltree C:\windows, then go get a coffee and come back. By then it will be done and you can run win98 setup from C:\win98. I usually run setup /? first so I can figure out which switches to speed the install along a bit. Also, in case you don't already know, don't bother installing unless you have 32M of ram as a minimum- anything less seems to make for a painful operating experience. -Mike > --.\\<-H-- > > Ms. Geek -- online since 1987 > Never underestimate the power of a She-Geek! > "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." -- R.A.W. > Snailmail: Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273 > > > From cph Sat Feb 26 20:19:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA03414 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:19:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06118; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:18:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06042; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:18:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad1 (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06028; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from thinkpad1 (12.79.28.193 -> 193.morristown-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:18:50 -0500 Message-ID: <001101bf80c0$9e050af0$c11c4f0c@thinkpad1> From: "Donald Mak" To: "Michelle Klein-Hass" Cc: References: <20000226180044.21677.qmail@web112.yahoomail.com> <38B86338.73DE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: USB for vintage thinkpads Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:18:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: Wow, that would be an installation nightmare. I remember loading OS/2 2.1 from diskettes and back then it was just 22 disks. Windows98 would be more like 75 .... Donald Mak > > I wish that Micro$oft had put out Windows98 in 3.5" floppy format...I don't > > trust loading the OS using my external PCMCIA CD-ROM... > > > > --.\\<-H-- > > > > Ms. Geek -- online since 1987 > > Never underestimate the power of a She-Geek! > > "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." -- R.A.W. > > Snailmail: Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273 > From cph Sat Feb 26 20:37:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA03491 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:37:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06907; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:36:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:36:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06812; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06798; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:36:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.51 -> mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:36:11 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.13.136]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000227013609.QFZA1630.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@701c> for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:36:09 +0000 Message-ID: <002c01bf80c3$340b5840$880d4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Think! 701 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 19:36:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. I am back home from my monthly forays of the U.S.. The thinkpad 701 is listed in the FRY's catalog, I simply looked up the largest size. What I mean is, there is this chart on the wall that is letter-coded. I simply looked up the 701, in the chart, the chart indicated 32 Meg max for the 701, BUT listed a 64 Meg chip. I simply had the helpful sales person supply me with that chip. Sorry, no numbers but a SKU/order#. FRY's does not do the web, as far as I know. To deal with them in mail order is like stomping grapes, you get your feet dirty and have to wait a long time for anything good to come out of it. From cph Sat Feb 26 21:16:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA03651 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:16:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08449; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:15:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:14:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08311; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08298; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:14:34 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.13.72]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000227021432.OFAT20625@701c> for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 02:14:32 +0000 Message-ID: <000601bf80c8$90af8620$480d4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Windows on floppies Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:15:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. Windows comes on floppies, if you really want, call microsoft order fulfillment center. You will need proof of ownership of windows. There is a charge of around $25.00 to a credit card. It arrives in the largest box, you can put your laptop in it!. There are 2 smaller boxes with 112 disks total. This takes the better part of a day to install, that is if you are by the machine everytime it beeps for the next disk. Now, do you really want Win 98 a la disk?. Microsoft corp One Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052-6399 Tel 425 882 8080 Fax 425 936 7329 From cph Sat Feb 26 21:22:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA03690 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:22:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08925; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:22:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:22:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08845; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08831; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:22:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.19 -> fb01.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:22:06 -0500 Received: from ballarda (user-38ld31r.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.140.59]) by fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA06011; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:22:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <015101bf80c9$4a607340$6f6f6f6f@ballarda> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Mike Capone" , "Michelle Klein-Hass" Cc: Subject: Re: USB for vintage thinkpads Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:21:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I talked to a coder, and was told that only 4 keys need to be changed on my win98 digital microscope install software to make it install on OSR2. Will let you knowl -----Original Message----- From: Mike Capone To: Michelle Klein-Hass Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Saturday, February 26, 2000 8:04 PM Subject: RE: USB for vintage thinkpads >> >for it to be present. >> >> I think you also need either Windows95 OSR2 with USB Support or Windows98 >> to use Cardbus cards. Cardbus support started back then, if I'm not >> mistaken. Since I am running the original Windows95 Retail on my Thinkpad, >> I have to use regular PCMCIA rather than Cardbus PCMCIA. But I think the >> 365-series is capable of utilizing Cardbus. > >Win95OSR2 has support for _some_ usb devices, mainly printers, scanners, >mice >and keyboards, but anything that is more exotic than that usually will not >be supported (well) if at all. I'm not sure why this trend exists, but it >is annoying. I would have preferred to stay with win95 OSR2 myself because >it is typically faster... But my dig. camera (a kodak DC290) will not >work with win95. > >> >> I wish that Micro$oft had put out Windows98 in 3.5" floppy >> format...I don't >> trust loading the OS using my external PCMCIA CD-ROM... >> > >Dump the \Win98 files onto your harddisk into C:\Win98 >or wherever. Then shut down from windows and do deltree C:\windows, >then go get a coffee and come back. By then it will be done >and you can run win98 setup from C:\win98. I usually run setup /? first so >I can figure out which switches to speed the install along a bit. > >Also, in case you don't already know, don't bother installing >unless you have 32M of ram as a minimum- anything less seems to >make for a painful operating experience. > >-Mike > >> --.\\<-H-- >> >> Ms. Geek -- online since 1987 >> Never underestimate the power of a She-Geek! >> "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." -- R.A.W. >> Snailmail: Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273 >> >> >> > From cph Sat Feb 26 21:25:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA03712 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:25:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09153; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:24:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:24:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09080; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:24:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot001.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09067; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:24:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot001.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.101 -> pilot001.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:24:44 -0500 Received: from andres (pm455-30.dialip.mich.net [198.110.21.40]) by pilot001.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA68908 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:24:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000226212423.009a4750@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:24:23 -0500 To: From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Windows on floppies In-Reply-To: <000601bf80c8$90af8620$480d4a0c@701c> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Are you *absolutely* sure that it consists of 112 disks? I'm looking at a Windows 95 floppy set, which is 23 floppies. You are saying that 98 is 4.5 larger? That doesn't seem right to me, but I'll believe it if you've actually seen this pile. (But *why* would it be that much larger?) --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 08:15 PM 2/26/2000 -0600, rudolph wratten wrote: >Hello. > >Windows comes on floppies, if you really want, call microsoft >order fulfillment center. You will need proof of ownership of >windows. There is a charge of around $25.00 to a credit card. >It arrives in the largest box, you can put your laptop in it!. >There are 2 smaller boxes with 112 disks total. >This takes the better part of a day to install, that is if you >are by the machine everytime it beeps for the next disk. >Now, do you really want Win 98 a la disk?. From cph Sat Feb 26 21:39:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA03753 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:39:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09993; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:38:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09920; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:38:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09906; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:38:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:38:21 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.14.132]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000227023819.OLSI20625@701c> for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 02:38:19 +0000 Message-ID: <004701bf80cb$e34aa6a0$480d4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Windows on floppies Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:38:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. I counted,,,,,!112 Windows 95 comes as 23 floppies. There is an extra set called CD rom extras. There is also a set for IE explorer. However win 98 has all of this as part of the " package ",. This set, full install, is 112. This is simply the count for all disks. I think there are some support disks. From cph Sat Feb 26 21:54:30 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA03790 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:54:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10780; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:53:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10700; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot018.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10687; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:53:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot018.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.118 -> pilot018.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:53:29 -0500 Received: from andres (pm455-30.dialip.mich.net [198.110.21.40]) by pilot018.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA45748 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:53:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000226215311.009a5470@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:53:11 -0500 To: From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Windows on floppies In-Reply-To: <004701bf80cb$e34aa6a0$480d4a0c@701c> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Well, I stand corrected then. But I am amazed. Then again, in the MicroSoft tradition of everything always getting bigger, more corpulent, and less efficient. Thank you for this: its just another reason why I'll stick to Windows95 untill either Hell freezes over, or until Win 2K proves itself to be better. Wow. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 08:38 PM 2/26/2000 -0600, rudolph wratten wrote: >Hello. > >I counted,,,,,!112 >Windows 95 comes as 23 floppies. There is an extra set called CD rom extras. >There is also a set for IE explorer. However win 98 has all of this as part >of the >" package ",. This set, full install, is 112. This is simply the count for >all disks. >I think there are some support disks. From cph Sat Feb 26 22:29:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA03902 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:29:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12068; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:28:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:28:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11975; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from web125.yahoomail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11962; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:28:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from web125.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.193 -> web125.yahoomail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:28:20 -0500 Received: (qmail 11906 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Feb 2000 03:32:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20000227033232.11905.qmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Received: from [199.104.230.183] by web125.yahoomail.com; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 19:32:32 PST Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 19:32:32 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: Re: USB for vintage thinkpads To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Yes, I know There ARE PCMCIA adapter cards. They don't work, though. At least the Adds model that Fry's sells don't work. I don't remember the name of the others. Do you know anybody who has got one to work? Lots of companies are making worthless products lately. It's like those USB to parallel printer port adapters that a dozen companies make. They all claim they are bi-directional but none of them are and won't work with HP Deskjet printers that require bi-directional cables. I tried 4 different brands that claim to be bi-directional on the package and found they won't work. One even exclaime "Definitely had Bi-Directional Support to work with Deskjet printers!" Guess what, it wasn't bi-directional. The companie's web site said it was a "misprint" on the package. --- Bruce Markowitz wrote: > There ARE PCMCIA USB adaptor cards. They REQUIRE > that the machinbe have > CARDBUS PCMCIA. THe 760E series should! But, you may > need to enable it > in device manager. > Remember, CARDBUS is a 32 bit bus. You MUST have a > machine with PCI bus > for it to be present. > > Steve C. wrote: > > > > I don't think there are any pc card to USB > adapters > > that work in laptops. I tried all the ones at > Fry's > > in my 760EL and also in a Dell P-166 with no luck. > > > > --- Rusty Lingenfelter wrote: > > > OK, so is there any solution for those of us who > > > have non-Cardbus > > > slots (i.e. 701CS owners). > > > > > > Rusty ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From cph Sat Feb 26 22:59:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA04056 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:59:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13341; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:58:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:58:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13260; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:58:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13240; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:58:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.62 -> snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:58:37 -0500 Received: from miles (ip7.an11-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.22.7]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA04368; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 19:58:31 -0800 (PST) From: "David Newman" To: "STeve Andre'" , Subject: RE: Windows on floppies Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:58:36 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000226215311.009a5470@pilot.msu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: > >I counted,,,,,!112 > Thank you for this: its just another reason why I'll stick to > Windows95 untill > either Hell freezes over, or until Win 2K proves itself to be better. Lessee ... 30 million lines of code = 550,000 floppies ... dn From cph Sun Feb 27 01:10:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA00526 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:10:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18312; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:10:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:08:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18081; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:08:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3805.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18068; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:08:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3805.mail.yahoo.com (204.71.203.176 -> web3805.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:08:54 -0500 Message-ID: <20000227060853.21738.qmail@web3805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.4.253.2] by web3805.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:08:53 PST Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:08:53 -0800 (PST) From: Garrett Kaste Subject: PC-card LOCK To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I have a Thinkpad 760XD and saw on ibms web page the option for a pcmcia card lock. Here is pictures: http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/thinkpad/uguide/760x/mmxmst21.html#HDRSECPCC They came with the computer new, but I purchased used. I am having a problem with my network card sliding out, and this is exacatally what I need. I was wondering if anyone knew where to purchase these, or if anyone has one they do not use, and would be willing to sell for a fair price. Please email if you are willing to sell of know of a place. Thank you all Garrett Kaste _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph Sun Feb 27 01:10:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA00527 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:10:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18310; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:10:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:09:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18208; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:09:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18191; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:09:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmraaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.140 -> ds-img-rel-1.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:09:54 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.2) id BAA04894 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:09:54 -0500 (EST) Sender: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us Received: from sfr-tgn-yyj-vty55.as.wcom.net (sfr-tgn-yyj-vty55.as.wcom.net [216.192.46.55]) by spdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.2) with ESMTP id BAA04878 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:09:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:09:22 -0600 From: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.38e) S/N 514531BD / Personal Reply-To: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <96.000227@falkor.chi.il.us> To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[2]: Windows on floppies In-reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000226215311.009a5470@pilot.msu.edu> References: <3.0.6.32.20000226215311.009a5470@pilot.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, February 26, 2000, 8:53:11 PM, STeve wrote: SA> Thank you for this: its just another reason why I'll SA> stick to Windows95 untill either Hell freezes over, SA> or until Win 2K proves itself to be better. I've heard from several people that Win98SE is the most stable of the Win3.1 / Win95 / Win98 dynasty. I've just gone through the process of installing Win98SE on my TP770ED. As someone else mentioned here, I copied the install CD onto a disk partition (not C:) and installed >from there, even though the built-in DVD meant that wasn't really required. However, I've found it handy to not have to carry the OS CD-ROM with me all the time. If I show up somewhere with a different printer than I usually use, I know I've got all the Win98 drivers from the install disk. The basic install went smoothly, though I ran into a couple of glitches with moving some of my other software onto the new hard drive. Examples: + Email software "The Bat!" does not make it particularly easy to move your data directory (saved Email) to another location. It's possible, just a pain in the butt. They did not respond to my query on how to do this easily after over a week. + Palm synchronization software "CompanionLink" requires an "unlock" code to enable the non-Demo mode and purchased features. Unfortunately, with a new install, it "requires" a different code. Fortunately, I still had my old HD, booted it, and was able to figure out how to use my previous code to do the install. They did not respond to my phone voice mail query left with them Friday morning. Ron. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 Comment: Digital signature verifies authorship and unaltered content. iQA/AwUBOLi/gm8pw+2/9pUJEQI3UgCgvTMIJxGVWrznmKz5iiuDba4JNIQAoPYj e4v2Kl+0flnJhhvreMInFHgD =Bm2f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph Sun Feb 27 03:17:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA00837 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 03:17:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22955; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 03:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 03:15:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22785; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 03:15:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot002.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22740; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 03:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot002.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.102 -> pilot002.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 03:15:25 -0500 Received: from andres (pm455-30.dialip.mich.net [198.110.21.40]) by pilot002.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA28646 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 03:15:22 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000227031459.009a95d0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 03:14:59 -0500 To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Re[2]: Windows on floppies In-Reply-To: <96.000227@falkor.chi.il.us> References: <3.0.6.32.20000226215311.009a5470@pilot.msu.edu> <3.0.6.32.20000226215311.009a5470@pilot.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: I'll have to stick out and be the resident Windows 98 bigot. Just call me Mr. Bunker.... I got 98 on a 166MHz Dell that had a 2G disk with 32M ram. The system got really messed up, and I couldn't repair the damage. Normally I'm willing to take the @)(@&@)(&$# registry apart and repair it by hand if I have to, but this time I couldn't so had to reinstall the OS, and made the (foolish) decision to try 98. After installing it, I found that it was 1) slower, 2) needed more memory, 3) had some form of memory leak(s), 4) was less stable. I have two ThinkPads, a 1451 i, and 1480 i. Win98 SE is a *little* better in terms of stability, but I can't keep a bunch of things in memory and really use Opera or Netscape (3.04gold or 4.x) for a long period of time without having some damned thing go wrong. ...95 on the other hand would stay up for the entire day, usually, using the same software. I have about 55 people using 95 as I've not been willing to inflict them with 98, and apart from telling people to reboot every two days or so, there are people who I don't have to help for months at a time. Not so with 98. I've had various crashes, freezes, screen mis-paints, beeps and other disgusting things, ESPECIALLY with MS products like Office (of any kind). I wish to hell that my ThinkPad's could have come with W95. I am really really hoping that Win2K will be better, but my other TP will have OpenBSD on it as soon as I have the time for that, so I'm hoping to use this invedious operating system even less in the future. I have ranted here, in the hopes that I have prevented some people from downgrading their ThinkPads to Windows 98. --STeve Andre' andres@msu.edu At 12:09 AM 2/27/2000 -0600, Ronald W. Heiby wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Saturday, February 26, 2000, 8:53:11 PM, STeve wrote: >SA> Thank you for this: its just another reason why I'll >SA> stick to Windows95 untill either Hell freezes over, >SA> or until Win 2K proves itself to be better. > >I've heard from several people that Win98SE is the most stable of the >Win3.1 / Win95 / Win98 dynasty. I've just gone through the process of >installing Win98SE on my TP770ED. As someone else mentioned here, I >copied the install CD onto a disk partition (not C:) and installed >from there, even though the built-in DVD meant that wasn't really >required. However, I've found it handy to not have to carry the OS >CD-ROM with me all the time. If I show up somewhere with a different >printer than I usually use, I know I've got all the Win98 drivers from >the install disk. > >The basic install went smoothly, though I ran into a couple of >glitches with moving some of my other software onto the new hard >drive. Examples: > > + Email software "The Bat!" does not make it particularly easy to >move your data directory (saved Email) to another location. It's >possible, just a pain in the butt. They did not respond to my query on >how to do this easily after over a week. > > + Palm synchronization software "CompanionLink" requires an "unlock" >code to enable the non-Demo mode and purchased features. >Unfortunately, with a new install, it "requires" a different code. >Fortunately, I still had my old HD, booted it, and was able to figure >out how to use my previous code to do the install. They did not >respond to my phone voice mail query left with them Friday morning. > >Ron. > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 >Comment: Digital signature verifies authorship and unaltered content. > >iQA/AwUBOLi/gm8pw+2/9pUJEQI3UgCgvTMIJxGVWrznmKz5iiuDba4JNIQAoPYj >e4v2Kl+0flnJhhvreMInFHgD >=Bm2f >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > From cph Sun Feb 27 08:38:43 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA10870 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:38:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11072; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:30:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:29:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10965; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:29:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA10952; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:29:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (207.69.229.19 -> fb01.eng00.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:29:55 -0500 Received: from ballarda (user-38ld1jj.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.134.115]) by fb01.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA03085; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:29:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <021701bf8126$989e8850$6f6f6f6f@ballarda> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Egbert, Scott K" , Subject: Re: [TP600] Memory Problems Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:28:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: Norton has a utility that will detail each item running, and the amount of memory used. -----Original Message----- From: Egbert, Scott K To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thursday, February 24, 2000 10:42 AM Subject: [TP600] Memory Problems >I have been having memory problems lately with my TP 600 running Windows 98. >Is there any way to tell where the memory is being allocated? I have 128MB >total, and after a clean startup I am left with only about 32MB free. I >also seem to have the same problems under RedHat Linux 6.1. Thanks in >advance! > >- > >Scott Egbert >segbert@kpmg.com >*************************************************************************** ** >The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. >It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else >is unauthorized. > >If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution >or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited >and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice >contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in >the governing KPMG client engagement letter. >*************************************************************************** ** From cph Sun Feb 27 09:47:26 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA11044 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 09:47:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12902; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 09:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 09:37:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12788; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 09:37:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12775; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 09:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.51 -> mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 09:37:40 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.13.108]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000227143738.TVJP1630.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@701c> for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:37:38 +0000 Message-ID: <023501bf8130$5e999500$6c0d4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: 730T/TE Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:38:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. I now have a 360 PE. This thing has all the drivers for pen. I copied the files to the 730T. Except for color, the systems are very much alike. So much so that by having 2 configs, I can run everything from one PCMCIA drive. The software on the 360PE is most complete, with all the usual business software. From cph Sun Feb 27 11:01:50 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA11243 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:01:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16056; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:01:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:00:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15928; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:00:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from web107.yahoomail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15915; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:00:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from web107.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.74 -> web107.yahoomail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:00:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 14041 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Feb 2000 16:05:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20000227160508.14040.qmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Received: from [38.29.124.235] by web107.yahoomail.com; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:05:08 PST Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:05:08 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: Re: Re[2]: Windows on floppies To: "STeve Andre'" Cc: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I had just the opposite experience. I installed Windows 98 on my Dell 166 and also on a Thinkpad 760EL with no problems. I find it to be more stable and have less crashes than Win95. It does need more memory and is still not as reliable as it should be but is definitely better than Win95. The one major problem with '98 is that while it supports lots of newer accessories, it doesn't have support for older things like '95 did and this causes a problem on older laptops. It runs on my old Toshiba T2130CS but does not support the PCMCIA controller and there are no supporting files to download from Toshiba. They don't support older laptops, either. As a result, the PCMCIA slots could not be made to work so I had to go back to '95 on that one. I did have to download and install the special drivers needed for the display controller, sound chip, etc. >from Dell and IBM to make it work properly. Next time I am going to Windows 98SE since that is even more reliable than regular Windows 98 on my desktop system. --- STeve Andre' wrote: > I'll have to stick out and be the resident Windows > 98 bigot. Just > call me Mr. Bunker.... > > I got 98 on a 166MHz Dell that had a 2G disk with > 32M ram. The system > got really messed up, and I couldn't repair the > damage. Normally I'm > willing to take the @)(@&@)(&$# registry apart and > repair it by hand > if I have to, but this time I couldn't so had to > reinstall the OS, and > made the (foolish) decision to try 98. After > installing it, I found > that it was 1) slower, 2) needed more memory, 3) had > some form of memory > leak(s), 4) was less stable. > > I have two ThinkPads, a 1451 i, and 1480 i. Win98 > SE is a *little* better > in terms of stability, but I can't keep a bunch of > things in memory and > really use Opera or Netscape (3.04gold or 4.x) for a > long period of time > without having some damned thing go wrong. > > ...95 on the other hand would stay up for the entire > day, usually, using > the same software. I have about 55 people using 95 > as I've not been willing > to inflict them with 98, and apart from telling > people to reboot every two > days or so, there are people who I don't have to > help for months at a time. > > Not so with 98. I've had various crashes, freezes, > screen mis-paints, beeps > and other disgusting things, ESPECIALLY with MS > products like Office (of any > kind). > > I wish to hell that my ThinkPad's could have come > with W95. I am really > really > hoping that Win2K will be better, but my other TP > will have OpenBSD on it as > soon as I have the time for that, so I'm hoping to > use this invedious > operating > system even less in the future. > > I have ranted here, in the hopes that I have > prevented some people from > downgrading > their ThinkPads to Windows 98. > > --STeve Andre' > andres@msu.edu > > At 12:09 AM 2/27/2000 -0600, Ronald W. Heiby wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >Saturday, February 26, 2000, 8:53:11 PM, STeve > wrote: > >SA> Thank you for this: its just another reason why > I'll > >SA> stick to Windows95 untill either Hell freezes > over, > >SA> or until Win 2K proves itself to be better. > > > >I've heard from several people that Win98SE is the > most stable of the > >Win3.1 / Win95 / Win98 dynasty. I've just gone > through the process of > >installing Win98SE on my TP770ED. As someone else > mentioned here, I > >copied the install CD onto a disk partition (not > C:) and installed > >from there, even though the built-in DVD meant that > wasn't really > >required. However, I've found it handy to not have > to carry the OS > >CD-ROM with me all the time. If I show up somewhere > with a different > >printer than I usually use, I know I've got all the > Win98 drivers from > >the install disk. > > > >The basic install went smoothly, though I ran into > a couple of > >glitches with moving some of my other software onto > the new hard > >drive. Examples: > > > > + Email software "The Bat!" does not make it > particularly easy to > >move your data directory (saved Email) to another > location. It's > >possible, just a pain in the butt. They did not > respond to my query on > >how to do this easily after over a week. > > > > + Palm synchronization software "CompanionLink" > requires an "unlock" > >code to enable the non-Demo mode and purchased > features. > >Unfortunately, with a new install, it "requires" a > different code. > >Fortunately, I still had my old HD, booted it, and > was able to figure > >out how to use my previous code to do the install. > They did not > >respond to my phone voice mail query left with them > Friday morning. > > > >Ron. > > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 > >Comment: Digital signature verifies authorship and > unaltered content. > > > >iQA/AwUBOLi/gm8pw+2/9pUJEQI3UgCgvTMIJxGVWrznmKz5iiuDba4JNIQAoPYj > >e4v2Kl+0flnJhhvreMInFHgD > >=Bm2f > >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From cph Sun Feb 27 11:06:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA11248 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:06:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16402; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:05:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:05:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16308; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot020.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16295; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:05:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot020.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.120 -> pilot020.cl.msu.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:05:22 -0500 Received: from andres (pm451-26.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.84]) by pilot020.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA67094 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:05:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000227110447.009b2700@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:04:47 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Re[2]: Windows on floppies Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: You are blessed--or Michigan State is cursed, I don't know. But of the 70 computers I support my '98 flock has consistently had more problems than the '95 crowd. I wish I knew why one person could have one experience, and another about the opposite. That would make me feel better. --STeve At 08:05 AM 2/27/2000 -0800, you wrote: >I had just the opposite experience. I installed >Windows 98 on my Dell 166 and also on a Thinkpad 760EL >with no problems. I find it to be more stable and >have less crashes than Win95. It does need more memory >and is still not as reliable as it should be but is >definitely better than Win95. The one major problem >with '98 is that while it supports lots of newer >accessories, it doesn't have support for older things >like '95 did and this causes a problem on older >laptops. It runs on my old Toshiba T2130CS but does >not support the PCMCIA controller and there are no >supporting files to download from Toshiba. They don't >support older laptops, either. As a result, the PCMCIA >slots could not be made to work so I had to go back to >'95 on that one. >I did have to download and install the special drivers >needed for the display controller, sound chip, etc. >from Dell and IBM to make it work properly. Next time >I am going to Windows 98SE since that is even more >reliable than regular Windows 98 on my desktop system. > >--- STeve Andre' wrote: >> I'll have to stick out and be the resident Windows >> 98 bigot. Just >> call me Mr. Bunker.... >> >> I got 98 on a 166MHz Dell that had a 2G disk with >> 32M ram. The system >> got really messed up, and I couldn't repair the >> damage. Normally I'm >> willing to take the @)(@&@)(&$# registry apart and >> repair it by hand >> if I have to, but this time I couldn't so had to >> reinstall the OS, and >> made the (foolish) decision to try 98. After >> installing it, I found >> that it was 1) slower, 2) needed more memory, 3) had >> some form of memory >> leak(s), 4) was less stable. >> >> I have two ThinkPads, a 1451 i, and 1480 i. Win98 >> SE is a *little* better >> in terms of stability, but I can't keep a bunch of >> things in memory and >> really use Opera or Netscape (3.04gold or 4.x) for a >> long period of time >> without having some damned thing go wrong. >> >> ...95 on the other hand would stay up for the entire >> day, usually, using >> the same software. I have about 55 people using 95 >> as I've not been willing >> to inflict them with 98, and apart from telling >> people to reboot every two >> days or so, there are people who I don't have to >> help for months at a time. >> >> Not so with 98. I've had various crashes, freezes, >> screen mis-paints, beeps >> and other disgusting things, ESPECIALLY with MS >> products like Office (of any >> kind). >> >> I wish to hell that my ThinkPad's could have come >> with W95. I am really >> really >> hoping that Win2K will be better, but my other TP >> will have OpenBSD on it as >> soon as I have the time for that, so I'm hoping to >> use this invedious >> operating >> system even less in the future. >> >> I have ranted here, in the hopes that I have >> prevented some people from >> downgrading >> their ThinkPads to Windows 98. >> >> --STeve Andre' >> andres@msu.edu >> >> At 12:09 AM 2/27/2000 -0600, Ronald W. Heiby wrote: >> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >Hash: SHA1 >> > >> >Saturday, February 26, 2000, 8:53:11 PM, STeve >> wrote: >> >SA> Thank you for this: its just another reason why >> I'll >> >SA> stick to Windows95 untill either Hell freezes >> over, >> >SA> or until Win 2K proves itself to be better. >> > >> >I've heard from several people that Win98SE is the >> most stable of the >> >Win3.1 / Win95 / Win98 dynasty. I've just gone >> through the process of >> >installing Win98SE on my TP770ED. As someone else >> mentioned here, I >> >copied the install CD onto a disk partition (not >> C:) and installed >> >from there, even though the built-in DVD meant that >> wasn't really >> >required. However, I've found it handy to not have >> to carry the OS >> >CD-ROM with me all the time. If I show up somewhere >> with a different >> >printer than I usually use, I know I've got all the >> Win98 drivers from >> >the install disk. >> > >> >The basic install went smoothly, though I ran into >> a couple of >> >glitches with moving some of my other software onto >> the new hard >> >drive. Examples: >> > >> > + Email software "The Bat!" does not make it >> particularly easy to >> >move your data directory (saved Email) to another >> location. It's >> >possible, just a pain in the butt. They did not >> respond to my query on >> >how to do this easily after over a week. >> > >> > + Palm synchronization software "CompanionLink" >> requires an "unlock" >> >code to enable the non-Demo mode and purchased >> features. >> >Unfortunately, with a new install, it "requires" a >> different code. >> >Fortunately, I still had my old HD, booted it, and >> was able to figure >> >out how to use my previous code to do the install. >> They did not >> >respond to my phone voice mail query left with them >> Friday morning. >> > >> >Ron. >> > >> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 >> >Comment: Digital signature verifies authorship and >> unaltered content. >> > >> >>iQA/AwUBOLi/gm8pw+2/9pUJEQI3UgCgvTMIJxGVWrznmKz5iiuDba4JNIQAoPYj >> >e4v2Kl+0flnJhhvreMInFHgD >> >=Bm2f >> >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > > From cph Sun Feb 27 11:32:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA11342 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:32:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17536; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:31:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:31:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17460; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:31:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17444; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:31:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.19 -> cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:31:46 -0500 Received: from default - 63.22.251.88 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:31:46 -0800 Message-ID: <004701bf813f$f099d780$58fb163f@default> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Think" Subject: 560 model Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 10:30:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Anyone heard of a 2640-167G? From cph Sun Feb 27 11:42:37 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA11382 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:42:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18079; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:41:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18007; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:41:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail0.mailsender.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17993; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:41:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail0.mailsender.net (209.132.1.30 -> mail0.mailsender.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:41:54 -0500 Received: from [216.59.0.202] (216.59.0.202) by mail0.mailsender.net (5.0.024) id 38B8C3A9000080C8; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:33:45 -0800 X-Sender: bosslady%msgeek.com@mail.msgeek.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000101bf80be$7f118760$1b00a8c0@dallas> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:41:17 -0800 To: "Mike Capone" From: Michelle Klein-Hass Subject: RE: USB for vintage thinkpads Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu List-Unsubscribe: >Dump the \Win98 files onto your harddisk into C:\Win98 >or wherever. Then shut down from windows and do deltree C:\windows, >then go get a coffee and come back. By then it will be done >and you can run win98 setup from C:\win98. I usually run setup /? first so >I can figure out which switches to speed the install along a bit. > >Also, in case you don't already know, don't bother installing >unless you have 32M of ram as a minimum- anything less seems to >make for a painful operating experience. Oh wow....that certainly makes sense, doesn't it! Drag the CABs onto the HD while your old OS is still installed, then kill the windows directory, then reinstall from the CABs! Of course!!! Thanks! --.\\<-H-- Ms. Geek -- online since 1987 Never underestimate the power of a She-Geek! "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." -- R.A.W. Snailmail: Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273 From cph Sun Feb 27 11:43:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA11386 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:43:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18242; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:42:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:42:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18167; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:42:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail0.mailsender.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18154; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail0.mailsender.net (209.132.1.30 -> mail0.mailsender.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:42:47 -0500 Received: from [216.59.0.202] (216.59.0.202) by mail0.mailsender.net (5.0.024) id 38B8C3A90000811F; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:34:39 -0800 X-Sender: bosslady%msgeek.com@mail.msgeek.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001101bf80c0$9e050af0$c11c4f0c@thinkpad1> References: <20000226180044.21677.qmail@web112.yahoomail.com> <38B86338.73DE@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:42:11 -0800 To: "Donald Mak" From: Michelle Klein-Hass Subject: Re: USB for vintage thinkpads Cc: List-Unsubscribe: At 8:18 PM -0500 2/26/2000, Donald Mak wrote: >Wow, that would be an installation nightmare. I remember >loading OS/2 2.1 from diskettes and back then it was >just 22 disks. >Windows98 would be more like 75 .... Windows95 Retail is 13 diskettes. The diskettes are specially formatted. --.\\<-H-- Ms. Geek -- online since 1987 Never underestimate the power of a She-Geek! "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." -- R.A.W. Snailmail: Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273 From cph Sun Feb 27 11:44:55 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA11390 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:44:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18500; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:44:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18423; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail0.mailsender.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18410; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail0.mailsender.net (209.132.1.30 -> mail0.mailsender.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:44:14 -0500 Received: from [216.59.0.202] (216.59.0.202) by mail0.mailsender.net (5.0.024) id 38B8C3A9000081A4; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:36:06 -0800 X-Sender: bosslady%msgeek.com@mail.msgeek.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000601bf80c8$90af8620$480d4a0c@701c> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:43:38 -0800 To: "rudolph wratten" From: Michelle Klein-Hass Subject: Re: Windows on floppies Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu List-Unsubscribe: >Hello. > >Windows comes on floppies, if you really want, call microsoft >order fulfillment center. You will need proof of ownership of >windows. There is a charge of around $25.00 to a credit card. >It arrives in the largest box, you can put your laptop in it!. >There are 2 smaller boxes with 112 disks total. >This takes the better part of a day to install, that is if you >are by the machine everytime it beeps for the next disk. >Now, do you really want Win 98 a la disk?. 112 Disks? Why is it that Windows95 Retail only takes up 12? --.\\<-H-- Ms. Geek -- online since 1987 Never underestimate the power of a She-Geek! "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." -- R.A.W. Snailmail: Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273 From cph Sun Feb 27 11:47:39 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA11401 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:47:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18871; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:46:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:46:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18798; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:46:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18783; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:46:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:46:46 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax3.vramp.net [198.138.8.66]) by water.vramp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA27456; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:46:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from CaptJHEM@waterw.com) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Brad Burean" , "Think" Subject: RE: 560 model Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:49:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: <004701bf813f$f099d780$58fb163f@default> List-Unsubscribe: Too many letters/digits Brad. 2640 is good, but all of the 560s I'm aware of are -XXU, except for the _very_ early ones, but which were still -XXX. Go into setup and check the serial number report from the MB, that will give you the correct one. Regards, James > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Burean [mailto:Burean@email.msn.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 11:30 AM > To: Think > Subject: 560 model > > > Anyone heard of a 2640-167G? > > > From cph Sun Feb 27 11:49:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA11407 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:49:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19250; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:48:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19149; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:48:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail0.mailsender.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19135; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail0.mailsender.net (209.132.1.30 -> mail0.mailsender.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:48:37 -0500 Received: from [216.59.0.202] (216.59.0.202) by mail0.mailsender.net (5.0.024) id 38B8C3A9000082E3; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:39:59 -0800 X-Sender: bosslady%msgeek.com@mail.msgeek.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000226212423.009a4750@pilot.msu.edu> References: <000601bf80c8$90af8620$480d4a0c@701c> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:47:32 -0800 To: "STeve Andre'" , From: Michelle Klein-Hass Subject: Re: Windows on floppies List-Unsubscribe: At 9:24 PM -0500 2/26/2000, STeve Andre' wrote: >Are you *absolutely* sure that it consists of 112 disks? I'm looking >at a Windows 95 floppy set, which is 23 floppies. You are saying that >98 is 4.5 larger? That doesn't seem right to me, but I'll believe it >if you've actually seen this pile. (But *why* would it be that much >larger?) 23 floppies??? My copy of Windows95 Retail is only 13 floppies. However, they are specially formatted. --.\\<-H-- Ms. Geek -- online since 1987 Never underestimate the power of a She-Geek! "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." -- R.A.W. Snailmail: Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273 From cph Sun Feb 27 11:59:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA11440 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:59:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19936; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:59:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19863; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail0.mailsender.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19850; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:59:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail0.mailsender.net (209.132.1.30 -> mail0.mailsender.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:59:11 -0500 Received: from [216.59.0.202] (216.59.0.202) by mail0.mailsender.net (5.0.024) id 38B8C3A9000085E6 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:51:03 -0800 X-Sender: bosslady%msgeek.com@mail.msgeek.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000227060853.21738.qmail@web3805.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:58:36 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michelle Klein-Hass Subject: Re: PC-card LOCK List-Unsubscribe: At 10:08 PM -0800 2/26/2000, Garrett Kaste wrote: >I have a Thinkpad 760XD and saw on ibms web page the >option for a pcmcia card lock. Here is pictures: > >http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/thinkpad/uguide/760x/mmxmst21.html#HDRSECPCC > >They came with the computer new, but I purchased used. > I am having a problem with my network card sliding >out, and this is exacatally what I need. Sometimes, the problem is simply not inserting the card firmly enough into the slot. You don't want to ram it in with blind brute force, but you don't want to be too gingerly about it either. For example, I had thought that my installation of Windows95 on my Thinkpad was flawed, that somehow the PCMCIA services hadn't installed right. Turns out that I hadn't inserted the card far enough into the card slot. Thankfully I was not charged a "dumbs**t charge" by my tech when he pointed out the problem. The card eject buttons on the side will push all the way out when the PCMCIA card is properly installed. You can then lock the button in place by flipping it to the side. This will not work unless the card is in all the way. I have noticed that Type III PCMCIA cards are not great for installing all the way in...my Xircom Ethernet/56K Modem combo card will not go all the way in and lock correctly. I find I have to connect the Ethernet cable in first, then plug the card in to make sure the card doesn't inadvertantly come loose. --.\\<-H-- Ms. Geek -- online since 1987 Never underestimate the power of a She-Geek! "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." -- R.A.W. Snailmail: Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273 From cph Sun Feb 27 12:25:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA11519 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:25:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21886; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:24:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21742; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:24:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21728; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:24:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (206.184.139.14 -> proxy2.ba.best.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:24:15 -0500 Received: from dgoldman (adsl-216-101-170-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.101.170.226]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id JAA19138 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 09:23:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.1.20000227092053.047204a0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dgoldman@shell9.ba.best.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 09:23:21 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Goldman Subject: Re: PC-card LOCK In-Reply-To: References: <20000227060853.21738.qmail@web3805.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:58 AM 2/27/2000 , Michelle Klein-Hass wrote: >I have noticed that Type III PCMCIA cards are not great for installing all >the way in...my Xircom Ethernet/56K Modem combo card will not go all the >way in and lock correctly. I find I have to connect the Ethernet cable in >first, then plug the card in to make sure the card doesn't inadvertantly >come loose. It might be your Thinkpad or your card. I've got the Xircom Ethernet/56K Modem card and haven't had it come out of my TP 380Z by accident in the 14+ months I've had them together (and I've probably logged 40,000 miles with the pair). -- David Goldman From cph Sun Feb 27 12:25:26 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA11523 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:25:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21918; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:24:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:24:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21774; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:24:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21754; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:24:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:24:17 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax3.vramp.net [198.138.8.66]) by water.vramp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA29064; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:24:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from CaptJHEM@waterw.com) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Michelle Klein-Hass" , "STeve Andre'" , Subject: RE: Windows on floppies Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:27:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: Michelle Klein-Hass [mailto:bosslady@msgeek.com] wrote: > 23 floppies??? My copy of Windows95 Retail is only 13 floppies. However, > they are specially formatted. One Bootdisk, 13 program disks and 6 separate IE for W95 disks. They're in Meta Format. Total - 20 disks. OSR2 came on 23 disks. Regards, James From cph Sun Feb 27 13:55:17 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA11896 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:55:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26165; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:53:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26043; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:53:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26030; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:53:45 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.13.70]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000227185342.LABP28762@701c> for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:53:42 +0000 Message-ID: <002101bf8153$8167dec0$460d4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: think! 701 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:49:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. I will look this up,'the order #', however, it is just as easy to go or call FRY's. Look up 701, you will find the specs for the chip, you can then cross it to the next larger size. The butterfly group is the supplier of the manual, I asked for the 1 year guarentee chip, when that was looked up on the chart it also listed a 64 M.B. chip in the same family. It is Speed 60, 4 wait state, SO DIMM. they come in 8, 16, 32, and 64 M.B. From cph Sun Feb 27 14:40:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA12103 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:40:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28372; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:40:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:39:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28287; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:39:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from musse.tninet.se (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28248; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:39:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from musse.tninet.se (195.100.94.12 -> musse.tninet.se) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:39:56 -0500 Received: (qmail 8875 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2000 20:39:49 +0100 Received: from sinclair.tninet.se (195.100.94.101) by musse.tninet.se with SMTP; 27 Feb 2000 20:39:49 +0100 Received: from helsod (du228-146.ppp.algonet.se [195.100.146.228]) by tninet.se (BLUETAIL Mail Robustifier1.1.9) with ESMTP id s4278420t513292-bmr-sinclair for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:39:47 +0100 Message-ID: <008e01bf815a$4977f020$e49264c3@helsod> From: "Peter Soderholm" To: Subject: [TP360CE] Any parts for thinkpad 360CE Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:38:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008B_01BF8162.A96F8760" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01BF8162.A96F8760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I just came by a broken Thinkpad 360 CE. The system wont start. There is = nothing on the screen but the leds turn on and blink a few times when = the power is turned on and the floppy drive makes a few noises. If anyone has another broken 360 laying around I would be interested in = buying parts so I could put my machine together. Maybe the main board = would be the first thing to try and change. I think there is no reason = to beleive that the screen is broken. I'm also of course interested in hearing about any ideas you might have = about what could be broken. If you have seen similar behaviour or just = any wild idea. Thanks! Peter=20 ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01BF8162.A96F8760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!
 
I just came by a broken Thinkpad 360 CE. The system = wont=20 start. There is nothing on the screen but the leds turn on and blink a = few times=20 when the power is turned on and the floppy drive makes a few=20 noises.
 
If anyone has another broken 360 laying around I = would be=20 interested in buying parts so I could put my machine together. Maybe the = main=20 board would be the first thing to try and change. I think there is no = reason to=20 beleive that the screen is broken.
 
I'm also of course interested in hearing about = any ideas=20 you might have about what could be broken. If you have seen=20 similar behaviour or just any wild idea.
 
Thanks!
Peter 
------=_NextPart_000_008B_01BF8162.A96F8760-- From cph Sun Feb 27 14:43:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA12121 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:43:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28951; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:42:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28840; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from access.mbnet.mb.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28827; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:42:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from access.mbnet.mb.ca (204.112.54.11 -> access.mbnet.mb.ca) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:42:54 -0500 Received: from CORUSCANT (24.66.41.126.mb.wave.home.com [24.66.41.126]) by access.mbnet.mb.ca (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA22555; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:42:50 -0600 (CST) Received: by CORUSCANT with Microsoft Mail id <01BF8127.EF5388C0@CORUSCANT>; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:38:30 -0600 Message-ID: <01BF8127.EF5388C0@CORUSCANT> From: Jason Savage To: "'Michelle Klein-Hass'" Cc: "Thinkpad Maillist (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Windows on floppies Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:38:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id OAA12122 There were three different flavors of 95. 95A was the original version of 95 with Service Pack 1. All retail versions are of this type. 95B AKA OSR2 this was a special OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) version that you could only get when you bought a new computer and sometimes a hard rive or motherboard. It was the first version to have FAT32 support, improve power management, IR and PC-Card support. I find this to be the most stable version of 95. There was also a sub-flavor of 95B that was called OSR2.1 which had the first revision of the USB support drivers. These USB drivers were notoriously unstable. Finally, there was 95C AKA OSR2.5. This was an interim OEM version (released due to 98 delays and 2.1 USB problems). USB support is much better but they screwed up the Dial-Up networking something fierce on this one which can cause your RAS and TCP/IP files to be completely corrupted and you have to manually extract new copies of the files from the CABS. Trust me this is ugly but, I digress. Each one of these has a higher disk count. 13, 23-31, and I believe 35 disks for 95C. Anyway, I hope that that long winded answered your question. Take care. Jason Savage Savage@MBnet.MB.CA -----Original Message----- From: Michelle Klein-Hass [SMTP:bosslady@msgeek.com] Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 10:48 AM To: STeve Andre'; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows on floppies At 9:24 PM -0500 2/26/2000, STeve Andre' wrote: >Are you *absolutely* sure that it consists of 112 disks? I'm looking >at a Windows 95 floppy set, which is 23 floppies. You are saying that >98 is 4.5 larger? That doesn't seem right to me, but I'll believe it >if you've actually seen this pile. (But *why* would it be that much >larger?) 23 floppies??? My copy of Windows95 Retail is only 13 floppies. However, they are specially formatted. --.\\<-H-- Ms. Geek -- online since 1987 Never underestimate the power of a She-Geek! "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." -- R.A.W. Snailmail: Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273 From cph Sun Feb 27 15:13:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA12243 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:13:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00671; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:10:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:10:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00579; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:10:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3802.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00565; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:10:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3802.mail.yahoo.com (204.71.203.173 -> web3802.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:10:17 -0500 Message-ID: <20000227200945.4960.qmail@web3802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.15.109.121] by web3802.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:09:45 PST Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:09:45 -0800 (PST) From: Garrett Kaste Subject: Re: PC-card LOCK To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: The problem I have is that the ethernet dongle on my Linksys 10bt ethernet card is really heavy, and when it dangles it and the weight of the cable can pull the card out. The card is in as firm as it can go. The pc card lock would stop this perfectly, so if anyone can tell me where to get one please write. Thanks Garrett Kaste --- David Goldman wrote: > At 08:58 AM 2/27/2000 , Michelle Klein-Hass wrote: > >I have noticed that Type III PCMCIA cards are not > great for installing all > >the way in...my Xircom Ethernet/56K Modem combo > card will not go all the > >way in and lock correctly. I find I have to connect > the Ethernet cable in > >first, then plug the card in to make sure the card > doesn't inadvertantly > >come loose. > > It might be your Thinkpad or your card. I've got the > Xircom Ethernet/56K Modem > card and haven't had it come out of my TP 380Z by > accident in the 14+ months I've > had them together (and I've probably logged 40,000 > miles with the pair). > > -- > David Goldman > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph Sun Feb 27 17:04:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA12625 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:04:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05889; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:03:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:02:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05679; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:02:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ziplink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05656; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:02:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ziplink.net (206.15.168.49 -> relay-0.ziplink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:02:39 -0500 Received: from dallas (ip247.bedford2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.10.247]) by ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA00263; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:02:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike Capone" To: "Steve C." Cc: Subject: RE: Re[2]: Windows on floppies Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:02:28 -0500 Message-ID: <000301bf816e$567a8940$1b00a8c0@dallas> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <20000227160508.14040.qmail@web107.yahoomail.com> List-Unsubscribe: On this end I haven't seen much difference in reliability from either operating system, however it can be said that Win95 OSR2 was very fast compared to 98 or 98SE, even after tuning. The only reason I am using Win98SE now is because of better usb support, it doesn't have that annoying free space error on network drive (win95 incorrectly shows 2.99 gb free on network drives that have way more than this free, and there is no fix), and lastly, the find file feature. The 98/SE version has a "local hard drives" option as well as a "grep" type affair for looking for words -INSIDE- files. BTW for a config I run an IBM Thinkpad 770ED/9549, with 128M of ram, and a 3COM 3C575 ethernet card. My "windoze 98" adventure started when I somehow destroyed my 95OSR2 installation that came on the unit. I ended up resorting to installing win98 because it had native PCMCIA support for the controller in my TP770, and there was also less patches to install afterwards. Tuning is a pain though. Unless you do EVERY win98 tweak out there, you won't end up with a useable system. Active Desktop must be removed to the point where just enough is left to let those IE-needy apps keep running correctly. I also have Windows NT 4.0 workstation on the unit as well, which typically is much more stable, but takes longer to start, and some things dont work with it. (obviously, you lose USB). I was contemplating using Win2K but to me the disk space requirement is kind of absurd. As it is now I fit two OSes(and a hibernation file) comfortably in a 1GB Fat16 partition, that can't/won't happen with Win2K. -Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve C. [mailto:stevec50@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 11:05 AM > To: STeve Andre' > Cc: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Re[2]: Windows on floppies > > > I had just the opposite experience. I installed > Windows 98 on my Dell 166 and also on a Thinkpad 760EL > with no problems. I find it to be more stable and > have less crashes than Win95. It does need more memory > and is still not as reliable as it should be but is > definitely better than Win95. The one major problem > with '98 is that while it supports lots of newer > accessories, it doesn't have support for older things > like '95 did and this causes a problem on older > laptops. It runs on my old Toshiba T2130CS but does > not support the PCMCIA controller and there are no > supporting files to download from Toshiba. They don't > support older laptops, either. As a result, the PCMCIA > slots could not be made to work so I had to go back to > '95 on that one. > I did have to download and install the special drivers > needed for the display controller, sound chip, etc. > from Dell and IBM to make it work properly. Next time > I am going to Windows 98SE since that is even more > reliable than regular Windows 98 on my desktop system. > > --- STeve Andre' wrote: > > I'll have to stick out and be the resident Windows > > 98 bigot. Just > > call me Mr. Bunker.... > > > > I got 98 on a 166MHz Dell that had a 2G disk with > > 32M ram. The system > > got really messed up, and I couldn't repair the > > damage. Normally I'm > > willing to take the @)(@&@)(&$# registry apart and > > repair it by hand > > if I have to, but this time I couldn't so had to > > reinstall the OS, and > > made the (foolish) decision to try 98. After > > installing it, I found > > that it was 1) slower, 2) needed more memory, 3) had > > some form of memory > > leak(s), 4) was less stable. > > > > I have two ThinkPads, a 1451 i, and 1480 i. Win98 > > SE is a *little* better > > in terms of stability, but I can't keep a bunch of > > things in memory and > > really use Opera or Netscape (3.04gold or 4.x) for a > > long period of time > > without having some damned thing go wrong. > > > > ...95 on the other hand would stay up for the entire > > day, usually, using > > the same software. I have about 55 people using 95 > > as I've not been willing > > to inflict them with 98, and apart from telling > > people to reboot every two > > days or so, there are people who I don't have to > > help for months at a time. > > > > Not so with 98. I've had various crashes, freezes, > > screen mis-paints, beeps > > and other disgusting things, ESPECIALLY with MS > > products like Office (of any > > kind). > > > > I wish to hell that my ThinkPad's could have come > > with W95. I am really > > really > > hoping that Win2K will be better, but my other TP > > will have OpenBSD on it as > > soon as I have the time for that, so I'm hoping to > > use this invedious > > operating > > system even less in the future. > > > > I have ranted here, in the hopes that I have > > prevented some people from > > downgrading > > their ThinkPads to Windows 98. > > > > --STeve Andre' > > andres@msu.edu > > > > At 12:09 AM 2/27/2000 -0600, Ronald W. Heiby wrote: > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >Hash: SHA1 > > > > > >Saturday, February 26, 2000, 8:53:11 PM, STeve > > wrote: > > >SA> Thank you for this: its just another reason why > > I'll > > >SA> stick to Windows95 untill either Hell freezes > > over, > > >SA> or until Win 2K proves itself to be better. > > > > > >I've heard from several people that Win98SE is the > > most stable of the > > >Win3.1 / Win95 / Win98 dynasty. I've just gone > > through the process of > > >installing Win98SE on my TP770ED. As someone else > > mentioned here, I > > >copied the install CD onto a disk partition (not > > C:) and installed > > >from there, even though the built-in DVD meant that > > wasn't really > > >required. However, I've found it handy to not have > > to carry the OS > > >CD-ROM with me all the time. If I show up somewhere > > with a different > > >printer than I usually use, I know I've got all the > > Win98 drivers from > > >the install disk. > > > > > >The basic install went smoothly, though I ran into > > a couple of > > >glitches with moving some of my other software onto > > the new hard > > >drive. Examples: > > > > > > + Email software "The Bat!" does not make it > > particularly easy to > > >move your data directory (saved Email) to another > > location. It's > > >possible, just a pain in the butt. They did not > > respond to my query on > > >how to do this easily after over a week. > > > > > > + Palm synchronization software "CompanionLink" > > requires an "unlock" > > >code to enable the non-Demo mode and purchased > > features. > > >Unfortunately, with a new install, it "requires" a > > different code. > > >Fortunately, I still had my old HD, booted it, and > > was able to figure > > >out how to use my previous code to do the install. > > They did not > > >respond to my phone voice mail query left with them > > Friday morning. > > > > > >Ron. > > > > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 > > >Comment: Digital signature verifies authorship and > > unaltered content. > > > > > > >iQA/AwUBOLi/gm8pw+2/9pUJEQI3UgCgvTMIJxGVWrznmKz5iiuDba4JNIQAoPYj > > >e4v2Kl+0flnJhhvreMInFHgD > > >=Bm2f > > >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > From cph Sun Feb 27 17:04:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA12624 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:04:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05892; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:03:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:03:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05744; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.leading.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05666; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:02:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.leading.net (207.98.192.90 -> smtp.leading.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:02:40 -0500 Received: from jnipper.fdn.com (jax7-107.leading.net [216.199.5.107]) by smtp.leading.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA21548 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:02:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38B9C862.56B7@southeast.net> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:59:14 -0800 From: Computer-Guru Reply-To: pctech@southeast.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: WTD: IBM 755c parts/accessories. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello Everyone, I am looking for some *inexpensive* parts/upgrades for my low end IBM Thinkpad 755c laptop computer. I am looking to get a working battery and ac-adapter for it, a low price is a very big issue, though. I am also interested in possibly buying a HDD for it, but again *inexpensive* is the key word. If you have any of the above for a very *INEXPENSIVE* price, please let me know as soon as possible. Thanks Jim -- Regards, Computer-Guru pctech@southeast.net ===================== From cph Sun Feb 27 17:08:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA12641 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:08:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06322; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:07:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06250; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.leading.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06219; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:07:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.leading.net (207.98.192.90 -> smtp.leading.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:07:41 -0500 Received: from jnipper.fdn.com (jax7-107.leading.net [216.199.5.107]) by smtp.leading.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA21657 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:07:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38B9C994.5AC9@southeast.net> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:04:20 -0800 From: Computer-Guru Reply-To: pctech@southeast.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: WTD: Thinkpad Laptop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello again Everyone, I am also possibly looking for another thinkpad unit, If I can find one at the right price. My old 755 is getting really worn out. If you have any thinkpads forsale at a *low*, *reasonable* price, please feel free to email me with the specs and ASKING PRICE!!!! Please be reasonable, I know what going prices are. DO NOT offer me a Pentium 120 for $900, I will send you flame email if you decide to. I do not like to do Best Offer type thing, I like to know from the start what someone is wanting for a unit. Thanks in advance!!! -- Regards, Computer-Guru pctech@southeast.net ===================== From cph Sun Feb 27 17:57:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA12779 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:57:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08974; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:56:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08892; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08872; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:56:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:56:41 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-295.gate.net [199.227.173.41]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA49862; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:56:33 -0500 Message-ID: <38B9AB9E.3DA1EAF6@gate.net> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:56:30 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Steve C." CC: scosgt@worldnet.att.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: USB for vintage thinkpads - now DILBERT References: <20000227033232.11905.qmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: one word.. *** D I L B E R T *** :-) "Steve C." wrote: > Yes, I know There ARE PCMCIA adapter cards. They > don't work, though. At least the Adds model that > Fry's sells don't work. I don't remember the name of > the others. Do you know anybody who has got one to > work? > Lots of companies are making worthless products > lately. It's like those USB to parallel printer port > adapters that a dozen companies make. They all claim > they are bi-directional but none of them are and won't > work with HP Deskjet printers that require > bi-directional cables. I tried 4 different brands > that claim to be bi-directional on the package and > found they won't work. One even exclaime "Definitely > had Bi-Directional Support to work with Deskjet > printers!" Guess what, it wasn't bi-directional. The > companie's web site said it was a "misprint" on the > package. > > --- Bruce Markowitz wrote: > > There ARE PCMCIA USB adaptor cards. They REQUIRE > > that the machinbe have > > CARDBUS PCMCIA. THe 760E series should! But, you may > > need to enable it > > in device manager. > > Remember, CARDBUS is a 32 bit bus. You MUST have a > > machine with PCI bus > > for it to be present. > > > > Steve C. wrote: > > > > > > I don't think there are any pc card to USB > > adapters > > > that work in laptops. I tried all the ones at > > Fry's > > > in my 760EL and also in a Dell P-166 with no luck. > > > > > > --- Rusty Lingenfelter wrote: > > > > OK, so is there any solution for those of us who > > > > have non-Cardbus > > > > slots (i.e. 701CS owners). > > > > > > > > Rusty > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sun Feb 27 17:59:18 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA12788 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:59:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09220; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:58:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:58:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09147; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:58:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09133; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:58:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:58:24 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-295.gate.net [199.227.173.41]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA46818; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:58:19 -0500 Message-ID: <38B9ABF9.F50013A5@gate.net> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:58:01 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Kaste CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PC-card LOCK References: <20000227060853.21738.qmail@web3805.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have one or two accessory kits for the 760CD/ED that these little metal locks came with.. i must have one here.. :-) i suppose i should put it up on e-bay.. starting bid $0.01 :-)) Garrett Kaste wrote: > I have a Thinkpad 760XD and saw on ibms web page the > option for a pcmcia card lock. Here is pictures: > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/thinkpad/uguide/760x/mmxmst21.html#HDRSECPCC > > They came with the computer new, but I purchased used. > I am having a problem with my network card sliding > out, and this is exacatally what I need. > > I was wondering if anyone knew where to purchase > these, or if anyone has one they do not use, and would > be willing to sell for a fair price. Please email if > you are willing to sell of know of a place. > > Thank you all > Garrett Kaste > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sun Feb 27 18:12:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA12834 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:12:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10122; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:11:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:10:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10029; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10016; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:10:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:10:33 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-295.gate.net [199.227.173.41]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25096; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:10:22 -0500 Message-ID: <38B9AEDB.1B763BFD@gate.net> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:10:19 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Burean CC: Think Subject: Re: 560 model References: <004701bf813f$f099d780$58fb163f@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Brad.. those last four digits are not even close to a real type designation.. 2640 = model, 8AU = type Brad Burean wrote: > Anyone heard of a 2640-167G? -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Sun Feb 27 18:57:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA13000 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:57:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13205; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:57:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:56:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13128; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:56:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13115; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:56:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (204.101.251.52 -> smtp13.bellglobal.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:56:52 -0500 Received: from sympatico.ca (HSE-Montreal-ppp102540.sympatico.ca [216.209.214.75]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22091 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:59:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38B9BA22.CA8894E@sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:58:27 -0500 From: Rich Berdych X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Attention: List Administrator References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi kids! Sorry for posting this to the list, but I don't know how to contact the administrator directly. I don't know about you, but I'm finding the near-daily failed unsubscription requests a little tiring now. After reading David's post, I think it's plainly obvious how these can be kept to a minimum. The instructions at the top of each dispatch (I get the digest form) are not complete enough. Why not put a mail-to link (like David's) or a link to a web page containing more detailed instructions at the top of each message? Enough of my 2 cents (Canadian). We now return you to your regularly scheduled mailing list. Rich PS: Thanks for your administrative efforts. While not often visible, they are nonetheless appreciated by this humble subscriber. > > Subject: How to unsubscribe from the Thinkpads mailing list > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:44:30 -0800 > From: David Goldman > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > To unsubscribe, you must not only send a message with the subject being > 'unsubscribe' (without the quotes), but you must also send it to the > proper address (which is DIFFERENT from the normal address used for > messages. So, either send a message as follows: > > TO: thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu > SUBJECT: unsubscribe > > or click on the link below: > > List-Unsubscribe: > -- > David Goldman > > From cph Sun Feb 27 22:33:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA13978 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:33:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23668; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:32:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:29:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23341; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:29:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from web114.yahoomail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23328; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:29:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from web114.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.86 -> web114.yahoomail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:29:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 2884 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2000 03:34:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20000228033455.2883.qmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Received: from [199.104.230.183] by web114.yahoomail.com; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:34:55 PST Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:34:55 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: RE: Re[2]: Windows on floppies To: Mike Capone Cc: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I have seen better reliability with '98 SE. My desktop system used to crash all the time with Netscape running '95 OSR2 and then with '98 but hasn't crashed once so far with '98 SE. --- Mike Capone wrote: > > On this end I haven't seen much difference > in reliability from either operating system, > however it can be said that Win95 OSR2 was > very fast compared to 98 or 98SE, even > after tuning=== ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From cph Sun Feb 27 22:55:39 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA14100 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:55:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25266; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:54:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:53:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25094; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from web113.yahoomail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25080; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:53:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from web113.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.84 -> web113.yahoomail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:53:14 -0500 Received: (qmail 2702 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2000 03:58:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20000228035809.2701.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Received: from [199.104.230.183] by web113.yahoomail.com; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:58:09 PST Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:58:09 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: Re: Re[2]: Windows on floppies To: "STeve Andre'" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Some computers seem to do better with Windows than others. I don't know why, maybe the drivers are better or something. At one location I have 150 PC's, some Toshibas, Dells, and Gateways. The Toshibas all crash frequently but the others not so often. --- STeve Andre' wrote: > You are blessed--or Michigan State is cursed, I > don't know. > But of the 70 computers I support my '98 flock has > consistently > had more problems than the '95 crowd. I wish I knew > why one > person could have one experience, and another about > the opposite. > That would make me feel better. --STeve ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From cph Sun Feb 27 22:57:48 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id WAA14117 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:57:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25550; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:57:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:55:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25347; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:55:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25329; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:55:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:55:37 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.13.16]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000228035535.CCWU20625@701c> for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 03:55:35 +0000 Message-ID: <000701bf819f$b704ee00$100d4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Windows on floppies Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:55:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. Windows has its problems. I remember DOS, it never crashed. Win 3.1 for workgroups loads MUCH faster. This is because it does not do " plug and play ", a system where a large part of the system is used in the event one wants to add or remove hardware. I think that the O.S. is by far bloated code. From cph Mon Feb 28 01:17:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA14824 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:17:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01407; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:16:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:14:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01230; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:14:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.clinet.fi (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01210; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:14:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.clinet.fi (194.100.0.12 -> smtp.clinet.fi) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:14:30 -0500 Received: from TP560X (255-44.dyn.clinet.fi [194.100.255.44]) by smtp.clinet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA02162 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:11:41 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200002280611.IAA02162@smtp.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:12:24 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP600E: "initialize" icon in Easy-Setup greyed out X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.08 (Unregistered) List-Unsubscribe: When I go to Easy-Setup in my TP600E, the "initialize" icon is greyed out. Any idea why? Is there a way to perform the same task via hardware? I'm using the latest BIOS and I haven't set up any passwords, if this is of any relevance. Thanks, Dominique From cph Mon Feb 28 09:38:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA16929 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:38:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23875; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:34:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23573; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:34:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from x500msfc.msfc.nasa.gov (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23552; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:34:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from x500msfc.msfc.nasa.gov (128.158.33.214 -> X500MSFC.MSFC.NASA.GOV) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:34:10 -0500 Received: from messaging-nt.msfc.nasa.gov by x500msfc.msfc.nasa.gov for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:34:00 -0600 Received: from 128.158.62.4 by messaging-nt.msfc.nasa.gov (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:29:42 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Received: by MSFCIMC01A.MSFC.NASA.GOV with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <190F6HCM>; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:32:49 -0600 Message-Id: From: "Terry, Steve" To: "Thinkpad-list (E-mail)" Subject: TP 380D AC adapter Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:32:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I've had my Thinkpad 380D for about 2 years with no problems at all until last week when I noticed it was running on the battery while plugged in the AC adapter. The P/N is 12J1441 (FRU 12J1442) with 16v at 2.2A output. I typically have my Thinkpad plugged into the AC adapter every work day, but every so often I run the LION battery to depletion. I checked the adapter output with a VOM and got zero volts, but the case feels slightly warm to the touch when plugged in for a while. I assume it's dead, but I haven't cracked the case. Does anyone on the list have good sources for a replacement AC adapter? Are there any "gotchas" on using non-IBM replacements? TIA, Steve Terry From cph Mon Feb 28 10:05:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA17136 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:05:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26453; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:01:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26116; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmgaab.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26103; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:01:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmgaab.compuserve.com (149.174.206.135 -> ds-img-2.compuserve.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:01:54 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id KAA13080 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:01:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:01:41 -0500 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: PC-card LOCK/Xircom Realport option Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: thinkpad Message-ID: <200002281001_MC2-9AF3-6AC8@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id KAA17137 RE: Re: PC-card LOCK At 08:58 AM 2/27/2000 , Michelle Klein-Hass wrote: >I have noticed that Type III PCMCIA cards are not great for installing all >the way in...my Xircom Ethernet/56K Modem combo card will not go all the >way in and lock correctly. I find I have to connect the Ethernet cable in >first, then plug the card in to make sure the card doesn't inadvertantly >come loose. It might be your Thinkpad or your card. I've got the Xircom Ethernet/56K Modem card and haven't had it come out of my TP 380Z by accident in the 14+ months I've had them together (and I've probably logged 40,000 miles with the pair). -- David Goldman ____________________________________________________________________________________________ If some of you are concerned about the Ethernet (or modem) cables pulling out then the Xircom Realport might be an option as the connnectors plug into the main body of the card - no dongles at all! I have a couple of new units for sale if interested. Xircom RealPort Ethernet 10/100 + Global Access Modem 56k (V90) + GSM, PC Combo card unused/boxed #135.00 inc pp #=ukpounds Mark +44 1252 710141 From cph Mon Feb 28 10:24:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA17294 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:24:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28379; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:24:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:22:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28250; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28236; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (208.154.252.26 -> mail.iso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:22:39 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial15.auto-net.com [208.154.252.64]) by mail.iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA78807; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:11:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <38BA3E45.34927BDA@iso.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:22:14 +0000 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: penzance@gate.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: CARDBUS - PCMCIA References: <20000227060853.21738.qmail@web3805.mail.yahoo.com> <38B9ABF9.F50013A5@gate.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: IBM page on Thinkpad Cardbus/PCMCIA chips From cph Mon Feb 28 10:41:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA17383 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:41:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29944; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:38:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29585; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from web106.yahoomail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29567; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:38:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from web106.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.73 -> web106.yahoomail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:38:03 -0500 Received: (qmail 1663 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2000 15:42:59 -0000 Message-ID: <20000228154258.1662.qmail@web106.yahoomail.com> Received: from [199.104.225.68] by web106.yahoomail.com; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:42:58 PST Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:42:58 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: Re: TP 380D AC adapter To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I've been able to interchange AC adapters between different model of Thinkpads if the connector is the same and they are about the same rating. You can find used ones for sale at computer swap meets. It may just be a blown fuse, I had a fuse blow in one of mine once. --- "Terry, Steve" wrote: > I've had my Thinkpad 380D for about 2 years with no > problems at all until > last week when I noticed it was running on the > battery while plugged in the > AC adapter. The P/N is 12J1441 (FRU 12J1442) with > 16v at 2.2A output. I > typically have my Thinkpad plugged into the AC > adapter every work day, but > every so often I run the LION battery to depletion. > I checked the adapter > output with a VOM and got zero volts, but the case > feels slightly warm to > the touch when plugged in for a while. I assume > it's dead, but I haven't > cracked the case. > > Does anyone on the list have good sources for a > replacement AC adapter? > Are there any "gotchas" on using non-IBM > replacements? > > TIA, > Steve Terry > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From cph Mon Feb 28 10:52:11 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA17484 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:52:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01063; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:50:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:49:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00920; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from web106.yahoomail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00907; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:49:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from web106.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.73 -> web106.yahoomail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:49:06 -0500 Received: (qmail 4380 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2000 15:54:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20000228155424.4379.qmail@web106.yahoomail.com> Received: from [199.104.225.68] by web106.yahoomail.com; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:54:24 PST Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:54:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: Webphone? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone been able to get Webphone from Netspeak to work on their Thinkpad, or even tried it? This is one of those things that doesn't really work, along with USB pc adapter cards and USB to paralel printer ports. Last year I purchased a Creative Labs parallel port Webcam II from Best Buy to use as a cheap digital camera. (It takes good pictures but the PC screen is hard to see in daylight to focus it.) Anyway, it came with Webphone video conferencing software on the CD. I just decided to try out Webphone last week and installed the program and tried to use it. When I start it up it says that it is unable to open the video capture device! I looked at all the options and there is no way to select a video device or configure it's settings! There is a configuration option for the sound card but nothing for video. This seems like a glaring omission for a video conferencing product. At first I thought that perhaps the problem was with the version of the product that Creative Labs had supplied with the product so I downloaded a new version from Netspeak. Guess what, it does the same thing. Just to make sure it was the program, I installed it on my desktop system and it can't find the Webcam there either. Neither can it find my USB camera. The troubleshooting FAQs don't say anything about this so I emailed Netspeak and Creative Labs about the problem but haven't heard anything from them yet. Anyone have any ideas? And yes, the camera does work fine in other programs such as Webmeeting. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From cph Mon Feb 28 11:52:32 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA18091 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:52:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07796; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:50:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:48:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07387; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from p0016c23.us.kpmg.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07374; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from p0016c23.us.kpmg.com (199.207.255.23 -> p0016c23.us.kpmg.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:48:36 -0500 Received: from p0016c56.kweb.us.kpmg.com by p0016c23.us.kpmg.com(Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA00951 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:48:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from p0016c22.kweb.us.kpmg.com by p0016c56.kweb.us.kpmg.com via smtpd (for p0016c23.us.kpmg.com [199.207.255.23]) with SMTP; 28 Feb 2000 16:48:48 UT Received: from usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com by kpmg.com(Pro-8.9.2/Pro-8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA22498 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:48:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com (unverified) by usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:48:23 -0500 Received: by usnssexc11.kweb.us.kpmg.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1Y2JL495>; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:48:23 -0500 Message-Id: <8389C74A65EFD111B03800805FA7658F050186D3@USDALEXC01> From: "Egbert, Scott K" To: "Thinkpad (E-mail)" Subject: [TP600] Trackpoint Scrolling and Infrared in Linux Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:44:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone been able to configure the scrolling features of the 3rd trackpoint button in Linux? 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When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. ***************************************************************************** From cph Mon Feb 28 13:01:50 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA18737 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:01:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16969; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:01:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:59:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16615; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:59:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.teleport.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16602; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:59:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002281759.MAA16602@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from mail1.teleport.com (192.108.254.26 -> mail1.teleport.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:59:21 -0500 Received: (qmail 3174 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2000 17:59:18 -0000 Received: from i48-43-18.pdx.du.teleport.com (HELO execed4.usc.edu) (216.26.63.82) by mail1.teleport.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2000 17:59:18 -0000 X-Sender: allied@allied@mail.teleport.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: 701 with broken hinge -ugh! In-Reply-To: References: <004701bf813f$f099d780$58fb163f@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Well,  I have certainly heard that it might happen....my dear 701 has developed the cracked hinge problem.  It is that cam hinge.  Can anyone tell me where to get a new lid and how difficult the change out of the screen (tft) is? 

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From cph Mon Feb 28 13:45:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA19169 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:45:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21258; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:41:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21173; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21152; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.28 -> cpimssmtpu07.email.msn.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:41:32 -0500 Received: from thinkpad600x - 130.253.64.210 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:41:32 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Richard A. Bilancia" To: Subject: WFWG 3.11 on ThinkPad 560 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:41:27 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bf821b$6c661320$d240fd82@foothills> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <38BA3E45.34927BDA@iso.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: I'm almost embarrassed to ask (I'm expecting to be told "Why are you doing that!), but I'm one of those pig-headed people that need to finish things once I've started. I have installed WFWG 3.11 on an old 100mHz ThinkPad 560. The reason I'm doing so is that I have the license and I want a bare bones system to connect to an NT network. Hence the problem: I cannot configure a 3COM 589C Ethernet adapter to work with the unit. It's been such a long time since I dealt with drivers in DOS and "config.sys" that I need a few pointers and reminders. I've already downloaded and installed the PC Card services for Windows 3.1 from the www.pc.ibm.com/support as well as the 3COM drivers for the 589C. Any points/tips/reference that anyone can provide would be MOST appreciated! Thanks in advance, Rich Bilancia From cph Mon Feb 28 14:27:58 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA19521 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:27:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25367; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:21:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25192; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:21:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25170; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:21:32 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2inig54.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.64.164]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA18079 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:21:30 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:22:00 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: To all, I have done a clean install of W2K on a TP770Z (9549 8AU). Everything works quite well if not better than Win'98SE, except that I can no longer play DVD movies (as a side note: I just got a DVD copy of the "Everest" movie that I am keen to watch). Does anyone know why I cannot play DVD's? Following the conversations at the TP770 forum on the IBM website I am getting the impression that I need, but do not now have, the necessary software decoder that was included with the TP770Z Win'98 preinstall. Does anyone know if this is the case? Or, does W2K just not support the DVD drive in the TP770 unless one has the optional Enhanced Video Adaptor? Bill Armstrong From cph Mon Feb 28 14:49:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA19739 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:49:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28115; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:48:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:48:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28031; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:48:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28018; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:47:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigred.ubh.com (216.98.165.6) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:47:59 -0500 Received: by BIGRED with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:51:46 -0600 Message-ID: From: Greg Langham To: "'William Armstrong'" , ThinkPad List Subject: RE: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:43:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I suspect that the support for DVD on the 770Z requires the Enhanced Video Adapter. At least that was the impression I got when I downloaded the driver for my Z. I will say that if you use DVD's, the decoder is very nice. You might be able to pick one up at a decent price now that the 770's are not on the market (Bill??) Greg -----Original Message----- From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 1:22 PM To: ThinkPad List Subject: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive To all, I have done a clean install of W2K on a TP770Z (9549 8AU). Everything works quite well if not better than Win'98SE, except that I can no longer play DVD movies (as a side note: I just got a DVD copy of the "Everest" movie that I am keen to watch). Does anyone know why I cannot play DVD's? Following the conversations at the TP770 forum on the IBM website I am getting the impression that I need, but do not now have, the necessary software decoder that was included with the TP770Z Win'98 preinstall. Does anyone know if this is the case? Or, does W2K just not support the DVD drive in the TP770 unless one has the optional Enhanced Video Adaptor? Bill Armstrong From cph Mon Feb 28 16:39:03 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA20751 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:39:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07779; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:38:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:37:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07573; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:37:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07545; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:37:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:37:19 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2inig54.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.64.164]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA09294 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:37:17 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:37:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <000101bf8226$8b2e03c0$1a00a8c0@server> List-Unsubscribe: Mike, >>Windows 2K will not do DVD unless it is hardware accelerated, or at least that is what a friend has told me, more than once... so I believe it requires the enhanced video adapter. I'm surprised that the model you have does not include it, I have a 9549/5AU and it came with everything in it....<< Well that's one of my questions. Does the 9549 8AU have the Video Adapter or not? Unlike my TP770, for which I bought the optional Enhanced Video Adapter, it does not have any video outputs/inputs under the battery slot. Does that mean it does not have the adapter? -Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:22 PM > To: ThinkPad List > Subject: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive > > > To all, > > I have done a clean install of W2K on a TP770Z (9549 8AU). > Everything works > quite well if not better than Win'98SE, except that I can no > longer play DVD > movies (as a side note: I just got a DVD copy of the "Everest" > movie that I > am keen to watch). Does anyone know why I cannot play DVD's? Following the > conversations at the TP770 forum on the IBM website I am getting the > impression that I need, but do not now have, the necessary > software decoder > that was included with the TP770Z Win'98 preinstall. Does anyone know if > this is the case? Or, does W2K just not support the DVD drive in the TP770 > unless one has the optional Enhanced Video Adaptor? > > Bill Armstrong > > From cph Mon Feb 28 16:39:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA20755 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:39:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07776; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:38:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:37:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07574; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:37:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07535; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:37:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:37:18 -0500 Received: from wald5 (user-2inig54.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.64.164]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA23052 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:37:16 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:37:45 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: Greg, $239 at PC CONNECTION. In stock. Have not checked elsewhere. I have one in my older TP770. Always thought I would get one for the 770Z, but never got around to it. -Bill -----Original Message----- From: Greg Langham [mailto:greg@psnet.net] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:43 PM To: 'William Armstrong'; ThinkPad List Subject: RE: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive I suspect that the support for DVD on the 770Z requires the Enhanced Video Adapter. At least that was the impression I got when I downloaded the driver for my Z. I will say that if you use DVD's, the decoder is very nice. You might be able to pick one up at a decent price now that the 770's are not on the market (Bill??) Greg -----Original Message----- From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 1:22 PM To: ThinkPad List Subject: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive To all, I have done a clean install of W2K on a TP770Z (9549 8AU). Everything works quite well if not better than Win'98SE, except that I can no longer play DVD movies (as a side note: I just got a DVD copy of the "Everest" movie that I am keen to watch). Does anyone know why I cannot play DVD's? Following the conversations at the TP770 forum on the IBM website I am getting the impression that I need, but do not now have, the necessary software decoder that was included with the TP770Z Win'98 preinstall. Does anyone know if this is the case? Or, does W2K just not support the DVD drive in the TP770 unless one has the optional Enhanced Video Adaptor? Bill Armstrong From cph Mon Feb 28 17:27:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA21252 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:27:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12310; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:26:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:26:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12235; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:26:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11962; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:22:57 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-146.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.146]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA27621 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:22:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000228172703.01381100@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:27:03 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: RE: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Only the 770ED (95495AU) came with the Enhanced Video Adapter as standard. The 770 (95491AU, 954932U), 770X (95497BU, 95497AU, 954972U, 954971U), and 770Z (95498BU, 95498AU, 954982U, 954981U) all came WITHOUT the enhanced adapter. To complicate matters even more, early adapters only worked with the 770, and not the 770X or 770Z. I was always perplexed as to why IBM didn't include the EVA as standard issue for the X and Z models with DVD drives Comparisons aside, the Z series of machines can handle rudimentary software decoding but as always for best effects, I recommend the Margi card or EVA. Mark At 04:37 PM 02/28/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Mike, > >>>Windows 2K will not do DVD unless >it is hardware accelerated, or at least that >is what a friend has told me, more >than once... so I believe it requires the >enhanced video adapter. I'm surprised that >the model you have does not include it, I have >a 9549/5AU and it came with everything in it....<< > >Well that's one of my questions. Does the 9549 8AU have the Video Adapter >or not? Unlike my TP770, for which I bought the optional Enhanced Video >Adapter, it does not have any video outputs/inputs under the battery slot. >Does that mean it does not have the adapter? > >-Bill > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] >> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:22 PM >> To: ThinkPad List >> Subject: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive >> >> >> To all, >> >> I have done a clean install of W2K on a TP770Z (9549 8AU). >> Everything works >> quite well if not better than Win'98SE, except that I can no >> longer play DVD >> movies (as a side note: I just got a DVD copy of the "Everest" >> movie that I >> am keen to watch). Does anyone know why I cannot play DVD's? Following the >> conversations at the TP770 forum on the IBM website I am getting the >> impression that I need, but do not now have, the necessary >> software decoder >> that was included with the TP770Z Win'98 preinstall. Does anyone know if >> this is the case? Or, does W2K just not support the DVD drive in the TP770 >> unless one has the optional Enhanced Video Adaptor? >> >> Bill Armstrong >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Mon Feb 28 17:51:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA21468 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:51:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14311; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:51:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:50:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14208; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:50:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14195; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:50:43 -0500 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200002282250.RAA14195@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net (206.81.128.1 -> slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:50:43 -0500 Received: (qmail 6417 invoked by alias); 28 Feb 2000 22:50:37 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU@fixme Received: (qmail 6404 invoked by uid 0); 28 Feb 2000 22:50:37 -0000 Received: from adialup81.slkc.uswest.net (HELO mellor) (209.181.85.81) by slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 28 Feb 2000 22:50:37 -0000 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:48:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: 730t Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) List-Unsubscribe: Hi All I am a newbe to the list. My name is Don Lillie and I just recently (like one hour ago) won an IBM 730t from good ole ebay, I know when I receive the unit I will have to install a system on the unit. If anyone has any suggestions where I should begin please help. (I had a full head of hair when I first encountered windows and its been down hill since) Thank you Don From cph Mon Feb 28 17:57:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA21537 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:57:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14897; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:56:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:56:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14791; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:56:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from web120.yahoomail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14778; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from web120.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.121 -> web120.yahoomail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:56:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 4717 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2000 23:02:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20000228230205.4716.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Received: from [199.104.225.68] by web120.yahoomail.com; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:02:05 PST Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:02:05 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: RE: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Even if you have a DVD player and EVA you will still need the software DVD player such as PowerDVD or WinDVD to play it, unless it comes with W2K. --- Mark Bell wrote: > Only the 770ED (95495AU) came with the Enhanced > Video > Adapter as standard. The 770 (95491AU, 954932U), > 770X (95497BU, 95497AU, 954972U, 954971U), > and 770Z (95498BU, 95498AU, 954982U, 954981U) > all came WITHOUT the enhanced adapter. To > complicate matters even more, early adapters > only worked with the 770, and not the 770X > or 770Z. I was always perplexed as to why > IBM didn't include the EVA as standard issue > for the X and Z models with DVD drives > Comparisons aside, the Z series of machines > can handle rudimentary software decoding > but as always for best effects, I recommend > the Margi card or EVA. > > Mark > > At 04:37 PM 02/28/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >Mike, > > > >>>Windows 2K will not do DVD unless > >it is hardware accelerated, or at least that > >is what a friend has told me, more > >than once... so I believe it requires the > >enhanced video adapter. I'm surprised that > >the model you have does not include it, I have > >a 9549/5AU and it came with everything in it....<< > > > >Well that's one of my questions. Does the 9549 8AU > have the Video Adapter > >or not? Unlike my TP770, for which I bought the > optional Enhanced Video > >Adapter, it does not have any video outputs/inputs > under the battery slot. > >Does that mean it does not have the adapter? > > > >-Bill > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: William Armstrong > [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] > >> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:22 PM > >> To: ThinkPad List > >> Subject: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive > >> > >> > >> To all, > >> > >> I have done a clean install of W2K on a TP770Z > (9549 8AU). > >> Everything works > >> quite well if not better than Win'98SE, except > that I can no > >> longer play DVD > >> movies (as a side note: I just got a DVD copy of > the "Everest" > >> movie that I > >> am keen to watch). Does anyone know why I cannot > play DVD's? Following the > >> conversations at the TP770 forum on the IBM > website I am getting the > >> impression that I need, but do not now have, the > necessary > >> software decoder > >> that was included with the TP770Z Win'98 > preinstall. Does anyone know if > >> this is the case? Or, does W2K just not support > the DVD drive in the TP770 > >> unless one has the optional Enhanced Video > Adaptor? > >> > >> Bill Armstrong > >> > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > ------------------------------------------------- > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > Network and System consultation and installation > -------------------------------------------------- > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From cph Mon Feb 28 17:58:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA21542 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:58:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15091; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:57:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:57:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15018; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from web120.yahoomail.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15005; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from web120.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.121 -> web120.yahoomail.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:57:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 5050 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2000 23:03:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20000228230304.5049.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Received: from [199.104.225.68] by web120.yahoomail.com; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:03:04 PST Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:03:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: RE: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Even if you have a DVD player and EVA you will still need the software DVD player such as PowerDVD or WinDVD to play it, unless it comes with W2K. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From cph Mon Feb 28 18:42:02 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA21810 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:42:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17992; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:41:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17896; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:41:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17883; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:41:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:41:11 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-234.gate.net [207.36.212.234]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA277580; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:40:58 -0500 Message-ID: <38BB0789.27975DCD@gate.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:40:57 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Steve C." CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive References: <20000228230205.4716.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: A DVD player comes with w2k, but its crap.. a 1 second pause for each 5 to 10 seconds of DVD movie play.. this is, of course, the out of the box w2k MS DVD player.. and with the enhanced video adapter.. "Steve C." wrote: > Even if you have a DVD player and EVA you will still > need the software DVD player such as PowerDVD or > WinDVD to play it, unless it comes with W2K. > > --- Mark Bell wrote: > > Only the 770ED (95495AU) came with the Enhanced > > Video > > Adapter as standard. The 770 (95491AU, 954932U), > > 770X (95497BU, 95497AU, 954972U, 954971U), > > and 770Z (95498BU, 95498AU, 954982U, 954981U) > > all came WITHOUT the enhanced adapter. To > > complicate matters even more, early adapters > > only worked with the 770, and not the 770X > > or 770Z. I was always perplexed as to why > > IBM didn't include the EVA as standard issue > > for the X and Z models with DVD drives > > Comparisons aside, the Z series of machines > > can handle rudimentary software decoding > > but as always for best effects, I recommend > > the Margi card or EVA. > > > > Mark > > > > At 04:37 PM 02/28/2000 -0500, you wrote: > > >Mike, > > > > > >>>Windows 2K will not do DVD unless > > >it is hardware accelerated, or at least that > > >is what a friend has told me, more > > >than once... so I believe it requires the > > >enhanced video adapter. I'm surprised that > > >the model you have does not include it, I have > > >a 9549/5AU and it came with everything in it....<< > > > > > >Well that's one of my questions. Does the 9549 8AU > > have the Video Adapter > > >or not? Unlike my TP770, for which I bought the > > optional Enhanced Video > > >Adapter, it does not have any video outputs/inputs > > under the battery slot. > > >Does that mean it does not have the adapter? > > > > > >-Bill > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: William Armstrong > > [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] > > >> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:22 PM > > >> To: ThinkPad List > > >> Subject: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive > > >> > > >> > > >> To all, > > >> > > >> I have done a clean install of W2K on a TP770Z > > (9549 8AU). > > >> Everything works > > >> quite well if not better than Win'98SE, except > > that I can no > > >> longer play DVD > > >> movies (as a side note: I just got a DVD copy of > > the "Everest" > > >> movie that I > > >> am keen to watch). Does anyone know why I cannot > > play DVD's? Following the > > >> conversations at the TP770 forum on the IBM > > website I am getting the > > >> impression that I need, but do not now have, the > > necessary > > >> software decoder > > >> that was included with the TP770Z Win'98 > > preinstall. Does anyone know if > > >> this is the case? Or, does W2K just not support > > the DVD drive in the TP770 > > >> unless one has the optional Enhanced Video > > Adaptor? > > >> > > >> Bill Armstrong > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > > Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 > > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > > Network and System consultation and installation > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 28 18:43:46 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA21866 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:43:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18256; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:43:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:43:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18175; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:43:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18160; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:43:12 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-234.gate.net [207.36.212.234]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA87920; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:42:08 -0500 Message-ID: <38BB07B0.5BA288D@gate.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:41:36 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Steve C." CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive References: <20000228230304.5049.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: see last post, the DVD player is part of w2k "Steve C." wrote: > Even if you have a DVD player and EVA you will still > need the software DVD player such as PowerDVD or > WinDVD to play it, unless it comes with W2K. > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 28 18:49:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA21913 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:49:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18975; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:49:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:49:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18868; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:49:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18855; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:49:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:49:05 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-221.gate.net [207.36.212.221]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA273890; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:48:44 -0500 Message-ID: <38BB095B.A0281CB8@gate.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:48:43 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rich Berdych CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Attention: List Administrator References: <38B9BA22.CA8894E@sympatico.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: if asked, i will publish these instructions on my web site.. in fact, i'll donate a page to the 'list'.. also, i'm getting double messages.. how can i reduce that to one each.. :-) Rich Berdych wrote: > Hi kids! > > Sorry for posting this to the list, but I don't know how > to contact the administrator directly. > > I don't know about you, but I'm finding the near-daily > failed unsubscription requests a little tiring now. > > After reading David's post, I think it's plainly obvious > how these can be kept to a minimum. The instructions > at the top of each dispatch (I get the digest form) are > not complete enough. Why not put a mail-to link (like > David's) or a link to a web page containing more detailed > instructions at the top of each message? > > Enough of my 2 cents (Canadian). We now return you > to your regularly scheduled mailing list. > > Rich > > PS: Thanks for your administrative efforts. While not > often visible, they are nonetheless appreciated by this > humble subscriber. > > > > > Subject: How to unsubscribe from the Thinkpads mailing list > > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:44:30 -0800 > > From: David Goldman > > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > > To unsubscribe, you must not only send a message with the subject being > > 'unsubscribe' (without the quotes), but you must also send it to the > > proper address (which is DIFFERENT from the normal address used for > > messages. So, either send a message as follows: > > > > TO: thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu > > SUBJECT: unsubscribe > > > > or click on the link below: > > > > List-Unsubscribe: > > > -- > > David Goldman > > > > -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 28 18:56:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA21933 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:56:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19594; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:56:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:53:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19360; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:53:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19347; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:53:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:53:55 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-221.gate.net [207.36.212.221]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA253562; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:53:46 -0500 Message-ID: <38BB0A89.702F50CB@gate.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:53:45 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dominique Pivard CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP600E: "initialize" icon in Easy-Setup greyed out References: <200002280611.IAA02162@smtp.clinet.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Dominique... FWIW: no idea why, BUT it might be back when you flash a new bios.. i just DID flash a new bios on my 600E and i did not initialize it.. i just ran EZ setup and initialized my 600E, but the initialize icon is still the same.. not grayed out..??!! Dominique Pivard wrote: > When I go to Easy-Setup in my TP600E, the "initialize" icon is greyed out. > Any idea why? Is there a way to perform the same task via hardware? > > I'm using the latest BIOS and I haven't set up any passwords, if this is > of any relevance. > > Thanks, Dominique -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 28 18:56:47 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA21948 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:56:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19733; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:56:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:56:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19643; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:56:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19630; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:56:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:56:16 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-221.gate.net [207.36.212.221]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA49904; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:56:06 -0500 Message-ID: <38BB0B13.29DC2FD@gate.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:56:04 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Terry, Steve" CC: "Thinkpad-list (E-mail)" Subject: Re: TP 380D AC adapter References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i suggest sticking to the IBM adapters.. call 800-388-7080 for IBM parts.. FWIW, get the right one rather than try to save a few $$ and possibly cost yourself much more.. "Terry, Steve" wrote: > I've had my Thinkpad 380D for about 2 years with no problems at all until > last week when I noticed it was running on the battery while plugged in the > AC adapter. The P/N is 12J1441 (FRU 12J1442) with 16v at 2.2A output. I > typically have my Thinkpad plugged into the AC adapter every work day, but > every so often I run the LION battery to depletion. I checked the adapter > output with a VOM and got zero volts, but the case feels slightly warm to > the touch when plugged in for a while. I assume it's dead, but I haven't > cracked the case. > > Does anyone on the list have good sources for a replacement AC adapter? > Are there any "gotchas" on using non-IBM replacements? > > TIA, > Steve Terry -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 28 18:59:28 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA21962 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:59:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20102; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:59:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:58:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20019; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:58:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20000; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:58:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:58:47 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-221.gate.net [207.36.212.221]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05936; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:58:43 -0500 Message-ID: <38BB0BAF.53303363@gate.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:58:39 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Armstrong CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill... w2k does support the 770Z DVD.. but the native MS DVD player is jerky.. see other posts here and on my open forum.. William Armstrong wrote: > To all, > > I have done a clean install of W2K on a TP770Z (9549 8AU). Everything works > quite well if not better than Win'98SE, except that I can no longer play DVD > movies (as a side note: I just got a DVD copy of the "Everest" movie that I > am keen to watch). Does anyone know why I cannot play DVD's? Following the > conversations at the TP770 forum on the IBM website I am getting the > impression that I need, but do not now have, the necessary software decoder > that was included with the TP770Z Win'98 preinstall. Does anyone know if > this is the case? Or, does W2K just not support the DVD drive in the TP770 > unless one has the optional Enhanced Video Adaptor? > > Bill Armstrong -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 28 19:02:19 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA21979 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:02:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20556; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:01:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20473; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:01:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20460; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:01:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (206.31.56.7 -> main.ismi.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:01:42 -0500 Received: from denhall (hi9-92.ismi.net [207.51.197.247]) by main.ismi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA22117 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:01:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <011101bf8251$5b37ab00$f7c533cf@denhall> From: "Denis Hall" To: Subject: Re: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:07:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hi Mark, the 9549-1AU 770 also came with the DVD Enhanced Video Adapter as Standard...I've bought a few of these lately, specifically because the Adapter and 14.1" display is standard on this unit... Have a Great Day, Denis Hall, Michigan >Only the 770ED (95495AU) came with the Enhanced Video >Adapter as standard. The 770 (95491AU, 954932U), >770X (95497BU, 95497AU, 954972U, 954971U), >and 770Z (95498BU, 95498AU, 954982U, 954981U) >all came WITHOUT the enhanced adapter. To >complicate matters even more, early adapters >only worked with the 770, and not the 770X >or 770Z. I was always perplexed as to why >IBM didn't include the EVA as standard issue >for the X and Z models with DVD drives >Comparisons aside, the Z series of machines >can handle rudimentary software decoding >but as always for best effects, I recommend >the Margi card or EVA. > >Mark > >At 04:37 PM 02/28/2000 -0500, you wrote: >>Mike, >> >>>>Windows 2K will not do DVD unless >>it is hardware accelerated, or at least that >>is what a friend has told me, more >>than once... so I believe it requires the >>enhanced video adapter. I'm surprised that >>the model you have does not include it, I have >>a 9549/5AU and it came with everything in it....<< >> >>Well that's one of my questions. Does the 9549 8AU have the Video Adapter >>or not? Unlike my TP770, for which I bought the optional Enhanced Video >>Adapter, it does not have any video outputs/inputs under the battery slot. >>Does that mean it does not have the adapter? >> >>-Bill >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] >>> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:22 PM >>> To: ThinkPad List >>> Subject: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive >>> >>> >>> To all, >>> >>> I have done a clean install of W2K on a TP770Z (9549 8AU). >>> Everything works >>> quite well if not better than Win'98SE, except that I can no >>> longer play DVD >>> movies (as a side note: I just got a DVD copy of the "Everest" >>> movie that I >>> am keen to watch). Does anyone know why I cannot play DVD's? Following the >>> conversations at the TP770 forum on the IBM website I am getting the >>> impression that I need, but do not now have, the necessary >>> software decoder >>> that was included with the TP770Z Win'98 preinstall. Does anyone know if >>> this is the case? Or, does W2K just not support the DVD drive in the TP770 >>> unless one has the optional Enhanced Video Adaptor? >>> >>> Bill Armstrong >>> >>> >> >> >------------------------------------------------- >Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting >800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 >Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 >Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net >------------------------------------------------- >Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic >RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. >Network and System consultation and installation >-------------------------------------------------- > From cph Mon Feb 28 19:23:20 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA22170 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:23:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22420; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:22:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22341; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22326; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:22:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (24.2.1.66 -> ha1.rdc1.il.home.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:22:34 -0500 Received: from c137335a ([24.17.39.54]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <20000229002233.ZAWZ482.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@c137335a>; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:22:33 -0800 From: "Scott Stratmoen" To: , "'Steve C.'" Cc: Subject: RE: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:22:08 -0600 Message-ID: <000801bf824b$04699690$36271118@c137335a> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <38BB0789.27975DCD@gate.net> List-Unsubscribe: My experience with a 770 (9548-30U) with EVA running w2k and the Microsoft player is completely different than yours. While the player offers few features, it does reliably play movies without pauses. Are you sure that you have DMA enabled for the DVD-ROM drive? -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 5:41 PM To: Steve C. Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive A DVD player comes with w2k, but its crap.. a 1 second pause for each 5 to 10 seconds of DVD movie play.. this is, of course, the out of the box w2k MS DVD player.. and with the enhanced video adapter.. From cph Mon Feb 28 20:18:54 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA22538 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:18:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26383; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:18:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:17:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26273; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:17:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26259; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:17:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.iso.net (208.154.252.26 -> mail.iso.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:17:42 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial34.auto-net.com [208.154.252.83]) by mail.iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA99344; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:06:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <38BAC9D4.BF525935@iso.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:17:41 +0000 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: penzance@gate.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Attention: List Administrator References: <38B9BA22.CA8894E@sympatico.ca> <38BB095B.A0281CB8@gate.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill Morrow wrote: > also, i'm getting double messages.. > how can i reduce that to one each.. :-) You are getting double messages because folks are using Reply All (and the IE equivalent) so that one message goes to the list and then to you and the other goes to you. I "try" to remember to delete the person and just use the list address but -- the brain doesn't snap to attention like it did when I was 3 years old. (My personal peak - everything downhill since) So folks send to the list or to the person. My 2 cents Bill From cph Mon Feb 28 20:51:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA22777 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:50:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28559; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:49:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28397; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:49:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28107; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:45:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:45:07 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-96.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.96]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA23920 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:44:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000228204916.01489c40@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:49:16 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: 770's coming with DVD Enhanced Adapter--update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: The 95491AU's are P233MMX machines with as you said the 14.1" TFT. I purchased dozens of them back in 1998 for clients and they didn't come with EVAs. Did they change this later in their deployment cycle or specially configure them? Mark At 07:06 PM 02/28/2000 -0600, you wrote: >Hi Mark, >the 9549-1AU 770 also came with the DVD Enhanced Video Adapter as >Standard...I've bought a few of these lately, specifically because the >Adapter and 14.1" display is standard on this unit... > >Have a Great Day, >Denis Hall, Michigan > > >>Only the 770ED (95495AU) came with the Enhanced Video >>Adapter as standard. The 770 (95491AU, 954932U), >>770X (95497BU, 95497AU, 954972U, 954971U), >>and 770Z (95498BU, 95498AU, 954982U, 954981U) >>all came WITHOUT the enhanced adapter. To >>complicate matters even more, early adapters >>only worked with the 770, and not the 770X >>or 770Z. I was always perplexed as to why >>IBM didn't include the EVA as standard issue >>for the X and Z models with DVD drives >>Comparisons aside, the Z series of machines >>can handle rudimentary software decoding >>but as always for best effects, I recommend >>the Margi card or EVA. >> >>Mark >> >>At 04:37 PM 02/28/2000 -0500, you wrote: >>>Mike, >>> >>>>>Windows 2K will not do DVD unless >>>it is hardware accelerated, or at least that >>>is what a friend has told me, more >>>than once... so I believe it requires the >>>enhanced video adapter. I'm surprised that >>>the model you have does not include it, I have >>>a 9549/5AU and it came with everything in it....<< >>> >>>Well that's one of my questions. Does the 9549 8AU have the Video Adapter >>>or not? Unlike my TP770, for which I bought the optional Enhanced Video >>>Adapter, it does not have any video outputs/inputs under the battery slot. >>>Does that mean it does not have the adapter? >>> >>>-Bill >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: William Armstrong [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] >>>> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:22 PM >>>> To: ThinkPad List >>>> Subject: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive >>>> >>>> >>>> To all, >>>> >>>> I have done a clean install of W2K on a TP770Z (9549 8AU). >>>> Everything works >>>> quite well if not better than Win'98SE, except that I can no >>>> longer play DVD >>>> movies (as a side note: I just got a DVD copy of the "Everest" >>>> movie that I >>>> am keen to watch). Does anyone know why I cannot play DVD's? Following >the >>>> conversations at the TP770 forum on the IBM website I am getting the >>>> impression that I need, but do not now have, the necessary >>>> software decoder >>>> that was included with the TP770Z Win'98 preinstall. Does anyone know if >>>> this is the case? Or, does W2K just not support the DVD drive in the >TP770 >>>> unless one has the optional Enhanced Video Adaptor? >>>> >>>> Bill Armstrong >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>------------------------------------------------- >>Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting >>800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 >>Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 >>Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net >>------------------------------------------------- >>Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic >>RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. >>Network and System consultation and installation >>-------------------------------------------------- >> > > ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Mon Feb 28 21:50:21 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA23296 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:50:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02206; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:48:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02116; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:48:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtei2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02103; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:48:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtei2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.161 -> gtei2.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:48:57 -0500 Received: from wald5 (adsl-141-155-117-76.bellatlantic.net [141.155.117.76]) by gtei2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA26587 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:48:47 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: Subject: RE: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:49:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <38BB0789.27975DCD@gate.net> List-Unsubscribe: Bill, et. al., I'm still confused. Does my TP770Z have the Enhanced Video Adapter? I don't think it does because there are no video inputs/outputs anywhere. I believe I remember that the decoding of DVD material was done with software which must be a part of the software preload. Seeing as I have done a clean install of W2K this software is not to be found. W2K has a DVD player, but it is not a decoder. If I try to open this player I get a message saying that I need either a hardware or software decoder in order to use the W2K player. Are PowerDVD and WinDVD just payers like the W2K player or are they software decoders that will work with my DVD? -Bill Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 6:41 PM To: Steve C. Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive A DVD player comes with w2k, but its crap.. a 1 second pause for each 5 to 10 seconds of DVD movie play.. this is, of course, the out of the box w2k MS DVD player.. and with the enhanced video adapter.. "Steve C." wrote: > Even if you have a DVD player and EVA you will still > need the software DVD player such as PowerDVD or > WinDVD to play it, unless it comes with W2K. > > --- Mark Bell wrote: > > Only the 770ED (95495AU) came with the Enhanced > > Video > > Adapter as standard. The 770 (95491AU, 954932U), > > 770X (95497BU, 95497AU, 954972U, 954971U), > > and 770Z (95498BU, 95498AU, 954982U, 954981U) > > all came WITHOUT the enhanced adapter. To > > complicate matters even more, early adapters > > only worked with the 770, and not the 770X > > or 770Z. I was always perplexed as to why > > IBM didn't include the EVA as standard issue > > for the X and Z models with DVD drives > > Comparisons aside, the Z series of machines > > can handle rudimentary software decoding > > but as always for best effects, I recommend > > the Margi card or EVA. > > > > Mark > > > > At 04:37 PM 02/28/2000 -0500, you wrote: > > >Mike, > > > > > >>>Windows 2K will not do DVD unless > > >it is hardware accelerated, or at least that > > >is what a friend has told me, more > > >than once... so I believe it requires the > > >enhanced video adapter. I'm surprised that > > >the model you have does not include it, I have > > >a 9549/5AU and it came with everything in it....<< > > > > > >Well that's one of my questions. Does the 9549 8AU > > have the Video Adapter > > >or not? Unlike my TP770, for which I bought the > > optional Enhanced Video > > >Adapter, it does not have any video outputs/inputs > > under the battery slot. > > >Does that mean it does not have the adapter? > > > > > >-Bill > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: William Armstrong > > [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] > > >> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:22 PM > > >> To: ThinkPad List > > >> Subject: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive > > >> > > >> > > >> To all, > > >> > > >> I have done a clean install of W2K on a TP770Z > > (9549 8AU). > > >> Everything works > > >> quite well if not better than Win'98SE, except > > that I can no > > >> longer play DVD > > >> movies (as a side note: I just got a DVD copy of > > the "Everest" > > >> movie that I > > >> am keen to watch). Does anyone know why I cannot > > play DVD's? Following the > > >> conversations at the TP770 forum on the IBM > > website I am getting the > > >> impression that I need, but do not now have, the > > necessary > > >> software decoder > > >> that was included with the TP770Z Win'98 > > preinstall. Does anyone know if > > >> this is the case? Or, does W2K just not support > > the DVD drive in the TP770 > > >> unless one has the optional Enhanced Video > > Adaptor? > > >> > > >> Bill Armstrong > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > > Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 > > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > > Network and System consultation and installation > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Mon Feb 28 21:55:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id VAA23335 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:55:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02778; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:55:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:54:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02705; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:54:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from thalia.webcombo.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02690; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:54:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from thalia.webcombo.net (207.250.9.23 -> mail.webcombo.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:54:47 -0500 Received: from 770z (1Cust49.tnt3.cincinnati3.oh.da.uu.net [63.29.105.49]) by thalia.webcombo.net (8.9.3/[.92 webCOMBO - ALL UCE PROHIBITED]) with SMTP id UAA09172; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:49:33 -0600 Message-ID: <000101bf8260$5405c9c0$c1f3ed89@770z> From: "Richard Chalk" To: "Steve C." , References: <20000228230304.5049.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Subject: Re: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:27:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Windows 2000 comes with a DVD player, although a very basic one. I have a 770Z, with the driver from IBM AND the EVA, and it plays very well, but with limited control. The icon for the player does not appear anywhere, since the system relies on auto-insert to start the software, but you can find it. I believe it's system32\dvdplay.exe, but I'm not sure. If you need to find it, I'll reboot in 2K, and let you know for sure. Regards, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve C. To: Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 6:03 PM Subject: RE: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive > Even if you have a DVD player and EVA you will still > need the software DVD player such as PowerDVD or > WinDVD to play it, unless it comes with W2K. > > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > From cph Mon Feb 28 23:27:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA23951 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:27:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07649; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:25:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07471; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:25:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07458; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:25:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (24.137.12.3) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:25:41 -0500 Received: from CEL400 (24.137.23.55) by orion.planetcable.net (Worldmail 1.3.167) for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; 28 Feb 2000 23:22:39 -0500 Message-ID: <007001bf826d$b18cbce0$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> From: "Slip" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: Display problems with 760ED:a warranty repair? Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:30:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006D_01BF8243.C81FA500" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01BF8243.C81FA500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there! Recently I'v been noticing some intermittend problems with my = display. It is very obvious to me what the problem is, however I'm = curious to know what IBM would do about it. Basicly, when you open the = screen(or flex it for whatever reason), the bottom 3/4 of the screen = goes a very bright grey. The top most part of the screen is perfectly = fine. If you kinda twist or contort the right side of the screen once or = twice, it will return to normal. However I'd like to have this fixed = while it's within warranty. IBM just replaced my motherboard a couple = months back. Just a possible loose ribon connector? Thanks! -Jamie "To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing which makes us = human" ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01BF8243.C81FA500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi there!
    Recently I'v been = noticing some=20 intermittend problems with my display. It is very obvious to me what the = problem=20 is, however I'm curious to know what IBM would do about it. Basicly, = when you=20 open the screen(or flex it for whatever reason), the bottom 3/4 of the = screen=20 goes a very bright grey. The top most part of the screen is perfectly = fine. If=20 you kinda twist or contort the right side of the screen once or twice, = it will=20 return to normal. However I'd like to have this fixed while it's within=20 warranty. IBM just replaced my motherboard a couple months back. Just a = possible=20 loose ribon connector?
 
Thanks!
-Jamie
"To deny our own impulses is to deny = the very thing=20 which makes us human"
------=_NextPart_000_006D_01BF8243.C81FA500-- From cph Mon Feb 28 23:31:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA23980 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:31:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08027; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:30:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:30:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07945; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07932; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:30:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.39 -> mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:30:38 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.8.85]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000229043036.LJTC28762@compaq>; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 04:30:36 +0000 Message-ID: <38BB4B5F.155E@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:30:23 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Slip CC: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Display problems with 760ED:a warranty repair? References: <007001bf826d$b18cbce0$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I had an almost identical problem last week with a 760ED. IBM replaced the LCD cable and had it back to me in two days! Slip wrote: > > Hi there! > Recently I'v been noticing some intermittend problems with my > display. It is very obvious to me what the problem is, however I'm > curious to know what IBM would do about it. Basicly, when you open the > screen(or flex it for whatever reason), the bottom 3/4 of the screen > goes a very bright grey. The top most part of the screen is perfectly > fine. If you kinda twist or contort the right side of the screen once > or twice, it will return to normal. However I'd like to have this > fixed while it's within warranty. IBM just replaced my motherboard a > couple months back. Just a possible loose ribon connector? > > Thanks! > -Jamie > "To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing which makes us > human" From cph Mon Feb 28 23:32:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA23992 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:32:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08227; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:31:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08145; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08132; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.planetcable.net (24.137.12.3) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:31:54 -0500 Received: from CEL400 (24.137.23.55) by orion.planetcable.net (Worldmail 1.3.167); 28 Feb 2000 23:28:47 -0500 Message-ID: <007701bf826e$8d7483a0$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> From: "Slip" To: Cc: "Thinkpad List" References: <007001bf826d$b18cbce0$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> <38BB4B5F.155E@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Display problems with 760ED:a warranty repair? Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:36:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: >I had an almost identical problem last week with a 760ED. >IBM replaced the LCD cable and had it back to me in two days! Wow, thanks for letting me know! I havn't had a chance to call IBM yet. I'll let you guys know how it turns out. Thanks, -jamie From cph Tue Feb 29 00:43:01 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id AAA24432 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 00:43:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12104; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 00:42:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 00:42:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12019; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 00:42:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11854; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 00:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 00:38:23 -0500 Received: from markbell (client-151-204-210-40.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.40]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA16473; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 00:38:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000229004121.013836b0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 00:41:21 -0800 To: "William Armstrong" , From: Mark Bell Subject: RE: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive In-Reply-To: References: <38BB0789.27975DCD@gate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Nope, your 770z does not come with an EVA. You must order it seperately. Mark At 09:49 PM 02/28/2000 -0500, William Armstrong wrote: >Bill, et. al., > >I'm still confused. Does my TP770Z have the Enhanced Video Adapter? I >don't think it does because there are no video inputs/outputs anywhere. I >believe I remember that the decoding of DVD material was done with software >which must be a part of the software preload. Seeing as I have done a clean >install of W2K this software is not to be found. W2K has a DVD player, but >it is not a decoder. If I try to open this player I get a message saying >that I need either a hardware or software decoder in order to use the W2K >player. > >Are PowerDVD and WinDVD just payers like the W2K player or are they software >decoders that will work with my DVD? > >-Bill Armstrong > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] >Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 6:41 PM >To: Steve C. >Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Re: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive > > >A DVD player comes with w2k, but its crap.. >a 1 second pause for each 5 to 10 seconds of DVD movie play.. >this is, of course, the out of the box w2k MS DVD player.. >and with the enhanced video adapter.. > >"Steve C." wrote: > >> Even if you have a DVD player and EVA you will still >> need the software DVD player such as PowerDVD or >> WinDVD to play it, unless it comes with W2K. >> >> --- Mark Bell wrote: >> > Only the 770ED (95495AU) came with the Enhanced >> > Video >> > Adapter as standard. The 770 (95491AU, 954932U), >> > 770X (95497BU, 95497AU, 954972U, 954971U), >> > and 770Z (95498BU, 95498AU, 954982U, 954981U) >> > all came WITHOUT the enhanced adapter. To >> > complicate matters even more, early adapters >> > only worked with the 770, and not the 770X >> > or 770Z. I was always perplexed as to why >> > IBM didn't include the EVA as standard issue >> > for the X and Z models with DVD drives >> > Comparisons aside, the Z series of machines >> > can handle rudimentary software decoding >> > but as always for best effects, I recommend >> > the Margi card or EVA. >> > >> > Mark >> > >> > At 04:37 PM 02/28/2000 -0500, you wrote: >> > >Mike, >> > > >> > >>>Windows 2K will not do DVD unless >> > >it is hardware accelerated, or at least that >> > >is what a friend has told me, more >> > >than once... so I believe it requires the >> > >enhanced video adapter. I'm surprised that >> > >the model you have does not include it, I have >> > >a 9549/5AU and it came with everything in it....<< >> > > >> > >Well that's one of my questions. Does the 9549 8AU >> > have the Video Adapter >> > >or not? Unlike my TP770, for which I bought the >> > optional Enhanced Video >> > >Adapter, it does not have any video outputs/inputs >> > under the battery slot. >> > >Does that mean it does not have the adapter? >> > > >> > >-Bill >> > > >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: William Armstrong >> > [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] >> > >> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:22 PM >> > >> To: ThinkPad List >> > >> Subject: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> To all, >> > >> >> > >> I have done a clean install of W2K on a TP770Z >> > (9549 8AU). >> > >> Everything works >> > >> quite well if not better than Win'98SE, except >> > that I can no >> > >> longer play DVD >> > >> movies (as a side note: I just got a DVD copy of >> > the "Everest" >> > >> movie that I >> > >> am keen to watch). Does anyone know why I cannot >> > play DVD's? Following the >> > >> conversations at the TP770 forum on the IBM >> > website I am getting the >> > >> impression that I need, but do not now have, the >> > necessary >> > >> software decoder >> > >> that was included with the TP770Z Win'98 >> > preinstall. Does anyone know if >> > >> this is the case? Or, does W2K just not support >> > the DVD drive in the TP770 >> > >> unless one has the optional Enhanced Video >> > Adaptor? >> > >> >> > >> Bill Armstrong >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------- >> > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting >> > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 >> > Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 >> > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net >> > ------------------------------------------------- >> > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic >> > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. >> > Network and System consultation and installation >> > -------------------------------------------------- >> > >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >> http://im.yahoo.com > >-- >Happy trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net > > > > ------------------------------------------------- Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------------------------- Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. Network and System consultation and installation -------------------------------------------------- From cph Tue Feb 29 09:39:42 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id JAA26503 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:39:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21668; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:39:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:37:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21461; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:37:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.prz.tu-berlin.de (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21443; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.prz.tu-berlin.de (130.149.232.72 -> mail.prz.tu-berlin.de) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:37:41 -0500 Received: from micky.prz.tu-berlin.de (micky.prz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.62.26]) by mail.prz.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26048 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:36:19 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:34:26 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Eyrich To: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: Attention: List Administrator In-Reply-To: <38BB095B.A0281CB8@gate.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Bill Morrow wrote: |also, i'm getting double messages.. |how can i reduce that to one each.. :-) No problem on unix systems :-) Use procmail with a rule like this :0 Wh: msgid.lock | /usr/contrib/bin/formail -D 8192 msgid.cache and you will see only one copy of any message sent to you and lists etc. M. -- Michael Eyrich PRZ, TU-Berlin michey@prz.tu-berlin.de meyrich@acm.org Key fingerprint = 61 7A D6 6E B8 F2 ED 64 23 5D 06 D0 40 1D 12 77 From cph Tue Feb 29 10:38:05 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA27078 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:38:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29814; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:37:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:36:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29658; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:36:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from CalAcademy.Org (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29644; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from CalAcademy.Org (198.31.65.175 -> mail.calacademy.org) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:36:13 -0500 Received: from pacbell.net (opn-gerry.calacademy.org [198.31.75.51]) by CalAcademy.Org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA72802; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:29:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38BBE96B.247BFA42@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:44:44 -0800 From: "Gerry (Pacbell)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: WTB:Hard drive for TP 385; Floppy for TP 760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Looking a used TP 385 xd hard drive (2.1 or 4.3 will do, used) and a floppy drive for a TP 760 (used or new). Gerry 650-742-0222 after 4pm PST. From cph Tue Feb 29 11:16:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA27461 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:16:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04125; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:15:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04018; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:15:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from haifa.royl.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04005; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:15:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from haifa.royl.com (208.240.192.2 -> haifa.royl.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:15:46 -0500 Received: from hebron.royl.com ( [208.240.192.5] ) by haifa.royl.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:16:30 -0800 From: "Stephen Hosmer" To: "Ronald W. Heiby" , Subject: RE: Air & car adapter to 770 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:12:04 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <9731.000224@falkor.chi.il.us> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: I purchased the Xtend adapter for my TP770 and it works fine. COMP USA, about $75. -----Original Message----- From: Ronald W. Heiby [mailto:heiby@falkor.chi.il.us] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 3:34 PM To: ThinkPad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Air & car adapter to 770 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, February 23, 2000, 10:35:45 AM, Geza wrote: GSsc> I'm trying to locate the model number for the TARGUS GSsc> Air & Car adapter what I can use with the 770 line. I don't know about the Targus adapter, but I purchased the PORT "emPower". Here are the numbers from its label: PWCF203 9000283 Rev B 1-800-350-PORT (apparently a phone number) The unit works fine in vehicles. The car power port adapter unclips >from the unit, leaving a weird looking connector with two large and two small pins. This is supposed to be some kind of standard connector for aircraft. But, since the airlines haven't quite figured out that it's the working stiffs in Coach who actually need to plug in, I've never had a chance to try it in a plane. Ron. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 Comment: Digital signature verifies authorship and unaltered content. iQA/AwUBOLW/5G8pw+2/9pUJEQLvKgCeJpPV+YLY42VdQrwXMIEpe3zd9CoAn2wl +huJTGhc6qQR/UFuTwQ9Zw6g =171z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph Tue Feb 29 14:02:12 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA28937 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:02:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20727; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:01:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:01:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20286; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:01:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20264; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:01:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.38 -> mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:01:02 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.12.137]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <20000229190059.EDYL20625@701c> for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:00:59 +0000 Message-ID: <005601bf82e7$82c70300$890c4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: IBM 730T Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:02:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. If you only have the 730 and not the floppy drive. And it came with the hard drive, remove the hard drive, this is a standard PCMCIA drive, and plop it in a computer that has a floppy drive. Then install DOS 6.2.2, then install the drivers for Win 3.1 or Win 95, whatever OS you want. Then load the WIN xx. I recommend Win 3.1.1 for workgroups. This allows room for IE. I am not able to e-mail you a mirror of my drive anytime soon. I have 30+ requests that I am working on. Remember, if you have the standard harddrive,it is 105 megs in size. From cph Tue Feb 29 14:37:38 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA29238 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:37:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24097; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:37:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:37:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24003; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:37:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23974; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU (156.26.1.1 -> WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:37:07 -0500 Received: from WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU by WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3148) id <01JMHCPW46E88WZ49M@WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:39:51 CST Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:39:51 -0600 (CST) From: Jon Subject: The Sims & thinkpad 770e To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I am very interested in the new MAXXIS game, THe Sims. www.thesims.com Has anyone played this game on their thinkpad ?? Woiuld the game run on Thinkpad 770e ?? thanks jon From cph Tue Feb 29 14:37:51 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id OAA29245 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:37:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23977; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:36:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23868; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:36:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23851; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:36:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from water.vramp.net (199.171.193.1 -> water.vramp.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:36:47 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (mmax62.vramp.net [198.138.8.125]) by water.vramp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA74501; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:36:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from CaptJHEM@waterw.com) From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Michael Geary" , "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" , Subject: RE: IBM EXTERNAL 20X CD-ROM PCMCIA DRIVE - $99 Finally ;-} Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:39:07 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: Mike et al, The package arrived today from "Louie the Liquidator" and I am happy to report that it contained one IBM 1969-111 20X Stereo as anticipated. Now I'm sorry I didn't order two! Also came with a bonus. A small bag of Jelly Belly gourmet jellybeans! My kind of people. BTW, last night's insider newsletter announced that they have a bunch of 2.5 inch IDE drives from various sources; Here's some examples: IBM 6.4GB IDE 7 IN STOCK ITEM #...DADA26480 IBM 3.0GB IDE 41 IN STOCK ITEM #...DLGA23080 IBM 2.1GB IDE 22 IN STOCK ITEM #...DTNA-22160 IBM 4.0GB IDE 12 IN STOCK ITEM #...DTCA-24090 TOSHIBA 6.4GB IDE 1 IN STOCK ITEM #...MK6409MAV TOSHIBA 2.1GB IDE 1 IN STOCK ITEM #...MK2104MAV TOSHIBA 1.4GB IDE 4 IN STOCK ITEM #...MK1403MAV TOSHIBA 1.3GB IDE 7 IN STOCK ITEM #...MK2720FC HITACHI 3.2BG IDE 67 IN STOCK ITEM #...DK226A-32 HITACHI 2.1BG IDE 1 IN STOCK ITEM #...DK225A-21 HITACHI 4.3BG IDE 7 IN STOCK ITEM #...DK238A-43 HITACHI 6.5BG IDE 1 IN STOCK ITEM #...DK228A-65 No prices and they say to call early. When I just checked they had some of the IBM 6.4GB drives left for $189. Regards, James From cph Tue Feb 29 15:46:27 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA29907 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:46:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01314; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:45:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01138; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:45:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3806.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00609; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3806.mail.yahoo.com (204.71.203.177 -> web3806.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:41:15 -0500 Message-ID: <20000229194752.17836.qmail@web3806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.4.253.3] by web3806.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:47:52 PST Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:47:52 -0800 (PST) From: Garrett Kaste Subject: warranty? To: Thinkpad List Cc: Thinkpad List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I purchased a second hand thinkpad that has a 2 months left on a non transferable warrenty, so if anything goes wrong, can the laptop be sent to IBM with the previos ownsers name so that it can be fixed for free? Thanks Garrett _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph Tue Feb 29 15:46:33 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA29911 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:46:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01316; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:46:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:45:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01126; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:45:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3806.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00608; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3806.mail.yahoo.com (204.71.203.177 -> web3806.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:41:15 -0500 Message-ID: <20000229194752.17836.qmail@web3806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.4.253.3] by web3806.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:47:52 PST Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:47:52 -0800 (PST) From: Garrett Kaste Subject: warranty? To: Thinkpad List Cc: Thinkpad List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I purchased a second hand thinkpad that has a 2 months left on a non transferable warrenty, so if anything goes wrong, can the laptop be sent to IBM with the previos ownsers name so that it can be fixed for free? Thanks Garrett _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph Tue Feb 29 16:05:06 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA30047 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:05:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03430; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:04:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03331; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:04:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03317; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.51 -> mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:04:24 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.13.47]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000229210422.CHCC1630.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@701c> for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:04:22 +0000 Message-ID: <001601bf82f8$bef523a0$2f0d4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Warranty Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:05:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. You could, however what happens if IBM sends the machine back, to the owner of record?. Do you know this person well enough?. >From a legal standpoint, in TEXAS, if you were to get warranty et,al, on something and the warranty is not transferred(able), you could be charged with insurance fraud. This is a felony, so I would be VERY careful with the "paper trail"!. From cph Tue Feb 29 16:08:57 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA30088 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:08:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03996; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:08:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:08:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03916; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:08:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03902; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:08:22 -0500 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12589; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:08:19 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-ID: <38BC3542.74BAC94E@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:08:18 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13-sls i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rudolph wratten CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Warranty References: <001601bf82f8$bef523a0$2f0d4a0c@701c> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: rudolph wratten wrote: > Hello. > > You could, however what happens if IBM sends the machine back, > to the owner of record?. Do you know this person well enough?. > From a legal standpoint, in TEXAS, if you were to get warranty et,al, > on something and the warranty is not transferred(able), you could > be charged with insurance fraud. This is a felony, so I would be VERY > careful with the "paper trail"!. Including the electronic paper trail of this mailing list! From cph Tue Feb 29 16:13:49 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA30137 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:13:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04951; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:13:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04871; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:13:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ziplink.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04855; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:13:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ziplink.net (206.15.168.49 -> relay-0.ziplink.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:13:01 -0500 Received: from dsrv ([216.140.194.66]) by ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA10905; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:12:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000229161508.0090a910@pop.ziplink.net> X-Sender: drgrant@pop.ziplink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:15:08 -0500 To: "rudolph wratten" From: Mike Capone Subject: Re: Warranty Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <001601bf82f8$bef523a0$2f0d4a0c@701c> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: On the other hand, depending upon the state/country that you are in, it may be against the law to NOT transfer a warranty to the next owner. -Mike At 03:05 PM 2/29/00 -0600, you wrote: >Hello. > >You could, however what happens if IBM sends the machine back, >to the owner of record?. Do you know this person well enough?. >>From a legal standpoint, in TEXAS, if you were to get warranty et,al, >on something and the warranty is not transferred(able), you could >be charged with insurance fraud. This is a felony, so I would be VERY >careful with the "paper trail"!. > > > From cph Tue Feb 29 16:24:07 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA30221 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:24:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05837; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:22:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:22:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05757; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:22:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05744; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from trmail.triumf.ca (142.90.100.150 -> trmail.Triumf.CA) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:22:01 -0500 Received: from pmachule (sfupc.Triumf.CA [142.90.120.3]) by trmail.triumf.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA08156; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:21:51 -0800 Message-ID: <002401bf82fc$c6338d60$03785a8e@pmachule> From: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" To: "Garrett Kaste" Cc: References: <20000229194752.17836.qmail@web3806.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: warranty? Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:34:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Since when ??? IBM thinkpads, at least the 760 series have always had transferable warranties. If this is no longer the case, I will make a LOT of noise . And Stop buying Thinkpads. We (users ) managed to get Compaq to change their evil ways on this a few months ago . Only Gateway is left with non tranferable warranties among the larger Laptop vendors . AFAIK Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Garrett Kaste To: Thinkpad List Cc: Thinkpad List Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 11:47 AM Subject: warranty? > I purchased a second hand thinkpad that has a 2 months > left on a non transferable warrenty, so if anything > goes wrong, can the laptop be sent to IBM with the > previos ownsers name so that it can be fixed for free? > > Thanks > Garrett > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From cph Tue Feb 29 16:26:45 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA30246 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:26:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06383; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:26:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:26:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06300; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:26:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06287; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.51 -> mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:25:59 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.13.47]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000229212557.CPOZ1630.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@701c> for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:25:57 +0000 Message-ID: <002b01bf82fb$c2fe2160$2f0d4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: Warranty Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:27:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. I sent something into EZ Served. The silly billies sent it to the address that was on the warranty card, no big deal but the card had a P.O. box on it. what I sent had the physical address. I was called by the carrier, gave them the correct address and all was well. Called IBM and was told " We check for stolen " this is done by the warranty info, then check ownership info with the records, the shipping labels are printed from the records. From cph Tue Feb 29 16:32:29 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA30285 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:32:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07034; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:32:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:32:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06939; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06926; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:32:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51 -> smtp7.atl.mindspring.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:32:03 -0500 Received: from ballarda (user-38ld0fd.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.129.237]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA12614; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:30:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002101bf82fc$17170fa0$6f6f6f6f@ballarda> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP" , "Garrett Kaste" Cc: Subject: Re: warranty? Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:29:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: The warranty transferred with my 760CD. IBM fussed about not having a particular IBM form filled out, but I did have a receipt, and finally that did it. It meant I could send the unit to EZ serve, or sell it and transfer the warrenty again. Don't want to sell though, too much fun with that machine. Allan Ballard -----Original Message----- From: peter machule TRIUMF TISOL GROUP To: Garrett Kaste Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 4:22 PM Subject: Re: warranty? >Since when ??? >IBM thinkpads, at least the 760 series have always had transferable >warranties. >If this is no longer the case, I will make a LOT of noise . >And Stop buying Thinkpads. > >We (users ) managed to get Compaq to change their evil ways on this a >few months ago . >Only Gateway is left with non tranferable warranties among the larger >Laptop vendors . >AFAIK > >Peter > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Garrett Kaste >To: Thinkpad List >Cc: Thinkpad List >Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 11:47 AM >Subject: warranty? > > >> I purchased a second hand thinkpad that has a 2 months >> left on a non transferable warrenty, so if anything >> goes wrong, can the laptop be sent to IBM with the >> previos ownsers name so that it can be fixed for free? >> >> Thanks >> Garrett >> _________________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >> > From cph Tue Feb 29 16:36:44 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id QAA30335 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:36:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07447; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:36:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:36:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07364; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:36:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07351; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:36:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (203.96.92.1 -> mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:36:10 -0500 Received: from am ([202.27.183.77]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <20000229213601.LNSL13182477.mta1-rme@am> for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:36:01 +1300 Message-ID: <004101bf82fc$bf4b0f00$4db71bca@am> From: "Andreas Michaelides" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re: 770's coming with DVD Enhanced Adapter--update Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:34:12 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: I hate to say this, but I have one of the first lot of 95491AU machines, and it definately has the EVA in it. Maybe you clients have too much faith in you :-) My machine had no CD/DVD drive with it, I had to get that seperate, perhaps you got that confused with the EVA?! Andreas!! >The 95491AU's are P233MMX machines with as you >said the 14.1" TFT. I purchased dozens of them >back in 1998 for clients and they didn't come >with EVAs. Did they change this later in their >deployment cycle or specially configure them? > >Mark From cph Tue Feb 29 17:15:52 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA30768 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:15:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11100; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:15:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:14:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10984; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:14:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3801.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10944; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3801.mail.yahoo.com (204.71.203.172 -> web3801.mail.yahoo.com) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:14:30 -0500 Message-ID: <20000229220810.19417.qmail@web3801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.15.109.121] by web3801.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:08:09 PST Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:08:09 -0800 (PST) From: Garrett Kaste Subject: Re: IBM 730T To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I also own one of these laptops so here is a tip with the 105mb hdd. If you use windows 95, which i recomend for the laptop, then use drive space. It is still suprisinly fast. That will get you ~150mb. Or if you use windows 98 drive space (dont install win98 though), you will get around 180mb. Or you could do what I did, I bought a 340mb hdd for $65. Garrett --- rudolph wratten wrote: > Hello. > > If you only have the 730 and not the floppy drive. > And it came with the hard drive, remove the hard > drive, this is a standard PCMCIA drive, and plop > it in a computer that has a floppy drive. > Then install DOS 6.2.2, then install the drivers for > Win 3.1 or Win 95, whatever OS you want. > Then load the WIN xx. I recommend Win 3.1.1 > for workgroups. This allows room for IE. > I am not able to e-mail you a mirror of my > drive anytime soon. I have 30+ requests that > I am working on. Remember, if you have the > standard harddrive,it is 105 megs in size. > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cph Tue Feb 29 18:45:08 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA31563 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:45:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17843; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:44:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:43:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17676; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:43:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17659; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:43:26 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-442.gate.net [199.227.173.188]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA199098; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:43:14 -0500 Message-ID: <38BC5984.2E4B0CEE@gate.net> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:43:01 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Stratmoen CC: "'Steve C.'" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive References: <000801bf824b$04699690$36271118@c137335a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: You are exactly right.. but i can't find where DMA is set on the CD.. i DID find a setting on the IDE controller in device manager which fixed it right up..! :-) thanks.. Scott Stratmoen wrote: > My experience with a 770 (9548-30U) with EVA running w2k and the Microsoft > player is completely different than yours. While the player offers few > features, it does reliably play movies without pauses. Are you sure that you > have DMA enabled for the DVD-ROM drive? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 5:41 PM > To: Steve C. > Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive > > A DVD player comes with w2k, but its crap.. > a 1 second pause for each 5 to 10 seconds of DVD movie play.. > this is, of course, the out of the box w2k MS DVD player.. > and with the enhanced video adapter.. -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Tue Feb 29 18:47:34 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA31579 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:47:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18422; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:47:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:46:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18345; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:46:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18325; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:46:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:46:51 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-442.gate.net [199.227.173.188]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA138846; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:46:40 -0500 Message-ID: <38BC5A5F.282C9D57@gate.net> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:46:40 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Armstrong CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Bill.. the EVA slides in under the battery.. look there for video i/o William Armstrong wrote: > Bill, et. al., > > I'm still confused. Does my TP770Z have the Enhanced Video Adapter? I > don't think it does because there are no video inputs/outputs anywhere. I > believe I remember that the decoding of DVD material was done with software > which must be a part of the software preload. Seeing as I have done a clean > install of W2K this software is not to be found. W2K has a DVD player, but > it is not a decoder. If I try to open this player I get a message saying > that I need either a hardware or software decoder in order to use the W2K > player. > > Are PowerDVD and WinDVD just payers like the W2K player or are they software > decoders that will work with my DVD? > > -Bill Armstrong > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 6:41 PM > To: Steve C. > Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive > > A DVD player comes with w2k, but its crap.. > a 1 second pause for each 5 to 10 seconds of DVD movie play.. > this is, of course, the out of the box w2k MS DVD player.. > and with the enhanced video adapter.. > > "Steve C." wrote: > > > Even if you have a DVD player and EVA you will still > > need the software DVD player such as PowerDVD or > > WinDVD to play it, unless it comes with W2K. > > > > --- Mark Bell wrote: > > > Only the 770ED (95495AU) came with the Enhanced > > > Video > > > Adapter as standard. The 770 (95491AU, 954932U), > > > 770X (95497BU, 95497AU, 954972U, 954971U), > > > and 770Z (95498BU, 95498AU, 954982U, 954981U) > > > all came WITHOUT the enhanced adapter. To > > > complicate matters even more, early adapters > > > only worked with the 770, and not the 770X > > > or 770Z. I was always perplexed as to why > > > IBM didn't include the EVA as standard issue > > > for the X and Z models with DVD drives > > > Comparisons aside, the Z series of machines > > > can handle rudimentary software decoding > > > but as always for best effects, I recommend > > > the Margi card or EVA. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > At 04:37 PM 02/28/2000 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Mike, > > > > > > > >>>Windows 2K will not do DVD unless > > > >it is hardware accelerated, or at least that > > > >is what a friend has told me, more > > > >than once... so I believe it requires the > > > >enhanced video adapter. I'm surprised that > > > >the model you have does not include it, I have > > > >a 9549/5AU and it came with everything in it....<< > > > > > > > >Well that's one of my questions. Does the 9549 8AU > > > have the Video Adapter > > > >or not? Unlike my TP770, for which I bought the > > > optional Enhanced Video > > > >Adapter, it does not have any video outputs/inputs > > > under the battery slot. > > > >Does that mean it does not have the adapter? > > > > > > > >-Bill > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: William Armstrong > > > [mailto:warmstrong@waldinc.com] > > > >> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:22 PM > > > >> To: ThinkPad List > > > >> Subject: Clean install of W2K & DVD drive > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> To all, > > > >> > > > >> I have done a clean install of W2K on a TP770Z > > > (9549 8AU). > > > >> Everything works > > > >> quite well if not better than Win'98SE, except > > > that I can no > > > >> longer play DVD > > > >> movies (as a side note: I just got a DVD copy of > > > the "Everest" > > > >> movie that I > > > >> am keen to watch). Does anyone know why I cannot > > > play DVD's? Following the > > > >> conversations at the TP770 forum on the IBM > > > website I am getting the > > > >> impression that I need, but do not now have, the > > > necessary > > > >> software decoder > > > >> that was included with the TP770Z Win'98 > > > preinstall. Does anyone know if > > > >> this is the case? Or, does W2K just not support > > > the DVD drive in the TP770 > > > >> unless one has the optional Enhanced Video > > > Adaptor? > > > >> > > > >> Bill Armstrong > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > Mark Bell @ ElectroSoft Consulting > > > 800 College Drive #126 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 > > > Voice: 856-293-9426 =-= Fax : 856-293-9423 > > > Email: bytehead@bellatlantic.net > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > Providing MS Access, SQL, Visual C and Basic > > > RDBMS solutions to satisfy your database needs. > > > Network and System consultation and installation > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Tue Feb 29 18:53:41 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA31611 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:53:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19033; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:52:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:52:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18937; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:52:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18917; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:52:45 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-442.gate.net [199.227.173.188]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA105576; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:52:38 -0500 Message-ID: <38BC5BC6.CAA1CB6A@gate.net> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:52:38 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Slip CC: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Display problems with 760ED:a warranty repair? References: <007001bf826d$b18cbce0$020aa8c0@TECHGAP.NEt> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FEAEA2CFCA805E7ACEAF5DDB" List-Unsubscribe: --------------FEAEA2CFCA805E7ACEAF5DDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this could be anything from a lose plug, dirty plug, worn interconnect ribbon cable to a failing LCD.. GET IT FIXED by ez serve while under warranty..!! :-) Slip wrote: > Hi there! Recently I'v been noticing some intermittend problems > with my display. It is very obvious to me what the problem is, however > I'm curious to know what IBM would do about it. Basicly, when you open > the screen(or flex it for whatever reason), the bottom 3/4 of the > screen goes a very bright grey. The top most part of the screen is > perfectly fine. If you kinda twist or contort the right side of the > screen once or twice, it will return to normal. However I'd like to > have this fixed while it's within warranty. IBM just replaced my > motherboard a couple months back. Just a possible loose ribon > connector? Thanks!-Jamie"To deny our own impulses is to deny the very > thing which makes us human" -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net --------------FEAEA2CFCA805E7ACEAF5DDB Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this could be anything from a lose plug, dirty plug, worn interconnect ribbon cable to a failing LCD..
GET IT FIXED by ez serve while under warranty..!!  :-)

Slip wrote:

Hi there!    Recently I'v been noticing some intermittend problems with my display. It is very obvious to me what the problem is, however I'm curious to know what IBM would do about it. Basicly, when you open the screen(or flex it for whatever reason), the bottom 3/4 of the screen goes a very bright grey. The top most part of the screen is perfectly fine. If you kinda twist or contort the right side of the screen once or twice, it will return to normal. However I'd like to have this fixed while it's within warranty. IBM just replaced my motherboard a couple months back. Just a possible loose ribon connector? Thanks!-Jamie"To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing which makes us human"

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Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net
  --------------FEAEA2CFCA805E7ACEAF5DDB-- From cph Tue Feb 29 18:57:25 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA31630 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:57:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19558; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:56:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:56:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19453; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19440; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:56:36 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-442.gate.net [199.227.173.188]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA223306; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:55:28 -0500 Message-ID: <38BC5C6F.BDC8EB25@gate.net> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:55:27 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Kaste CC: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: warranty? References: <20000229194752.17836.qmail@web3806.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i have never heard of a non-transferable warranty when its IBM and not some sort of refurb machine.. i have no experience with refurb machines.. Garrett Kaste wrote: > I purchased a second hand thinkpad that has a 2 months > left on a non transferable warrenty, so if anything > goes wrong, can the laptop be sent to IBM with the > previos ownsers name so that it can be fixed for free? > > Thanks > Garrett > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Tue Feb 29 19:01:22 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA31647 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:01:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20059; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:01:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:00:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19986; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19972; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:00:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.51 -> mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:00:47 -0500 Received: from compaq ([12.79.18.23]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000301000045.FDHN1630.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@compaq>; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:00:45 +0000 Message-ID: <38BC5DA6.5B18@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:00:38 -0500 From: Bruce Markowitz Reply-To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: penzance@gate.net CC: Garrett Kaste , Thinkpad List Subject: Re: warranty? References: <20000229194752.17836.qmail@web3806.mail.yahoo.com> <38BC5C6F.BDC8EB25@gate.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The Service Pak add on may not be transferrable. Never was able to get a straight answer out of IBM on that. Bill Morrow wrote: > > i have never heard of a non-transferable warranty when its IBM and not > some sort of refurb machine.. > i have no experience with refurb machines.. > > Garrett Kaste wrote: > > > I purchased a second hand thinkpad that has a 2 months > > left on a non transferable warrenty, so if anything > > goes wrong, can the laptop be sent to IBM with the > > previos ownsers name so that it can be fixed for free? > > > > Thanks > > Garrett > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Tue Feb 29 19:04:11 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA31680 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:04:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20311; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:02:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:02:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20195; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:02:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20181; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:02:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:02:13 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-442.gate.net [199.227.173.188]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA33634; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:02:05 -0500 Message-ID: <38BC5DFA.FFC46C7A@gate.net> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:02:02 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Michaelides CC: Thinkpad Subject: Re: 770's coming with DVD Enhanced Adapter--update References: <004101bf82fc$bf4b0f00$4db71bca@am> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The early 770-1AU machines (and i think the 770ED machines too) all came with the EVA.. this was standard.. early on, there were 770-3OU machines that did not have DVD, thus no EVA.. and, even, some 770's that came without a HDD.. then enter the 770X, which came with DVD and soft DVD player/decoder.. the EVA was an option.. same holds for the 770Z.. Mozart is now playing on my 770Z, flawlessly, with the DMA if possible selected >from within Device Manager/IDE ATA/ATAPI adapters.. Andreas Michaelides wrote: > I hate to say this, but I have one of the first lot of 95491AU machines, and > it definately has the EVA in it. > > Maybe you clients have too much faith in you :-) > > My machine had no CD/DVD drive with it, I had to get that seperate, perhaps > you got that confused with the EVA?! > > Andreas!! > > >The 95491AU's are P233MMX machines with as you > >said the 14.1" TFT. I purchased dozens of them > >back in 1998 for clients and they didn't come > >with EVAs. Did they change this later in their > >deployment cycle or specially configure them? > > > >Mark -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Tue Feb 29 19:06:23 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA31711 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:06:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20823; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:05:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20723; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:05:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20703; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:05:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:05:50 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-442.gate.net [199.227.173.188]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA48722; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:05:37 -0500 Message-ID: <38BC5ECF.B61FF4E1@gate.net> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:05:35 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scosgt@worldnet.att.net CC: Garrett Kaste , Thinkpad List Subject: Re: warranty? References: <20000229194752.17836.qmail@web3806.mail.yahoo.com> <38BC5C6F.BDC8EB25@gate.net> <38BC5DA6.5B18@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: it IS, on occasion, impossible, to get a straight answer (or at least the SAME answer) from IBM.. :-) it MAY be, that a service pack extended warranty is not transferable.. all other original thinkpad warranties ARE transferrable, with or without an invoice.. without an invoice, warranty start date is mfg. date.. WITH the original sales invoice, warranty starts on initial sale date.. Bruce Markowitz wrote: > The Service Pak add on may not be transferrable. Never was able to get a > straight answer out of IBM on that. > > Bill Morrow wrote: > > > > i have never heard of a non-transferable warranty when its IBM and not > > some sort of refurb machine.. > > i have no experience with refurb machines.. > > > > Garrett Kaste wrote: > > > > > I purchased a second hand thinkpad that has a 2 months > > > left on a non transferable warrenty, so if anything > > > goes wrong, can the laptop be sent to IBM with the > > > previos ownsers name so that it can be fixed for free? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Garrett > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net -- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net From cph Tue Feb 29 23:41:40 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA01066 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:41:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09198; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:41:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:38:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08974; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:38:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08961; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:38:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.51 -> mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:38:25 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.13.6]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000301043822.JVRP1630.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@701c> for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:38:22 +0000 Message-ID: <002401bf8338$2b2deae0$060d4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: 730T /David Goldman Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:39:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello. I have found that there are several dozen people who have problems with getting the OS on 730s. What I have been doing is e-mailing a mirror of the drives. One has Win 3.1.1 FWG and IE 4. No compress. The other has Win 95a on it. The question is, what works best. I have found that the only way to get a 730 on the 'net' is by running Win 3.1. Can Win 95 run in 105 megs and still have room for IE?. Also, David Goldman, Win 3.1 / DOS 6.2 is 16 megs without IE. 95 is around 80/100 megs minimal install. From cph Tue Feb 29 23:47:33 2000 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA01122 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:47:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09752; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:47:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:45:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09598; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09575; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.51 -> mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:45:38 -0500 Received: from 701c ([12.74.13.6]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000301044537.JYGC1630.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@701c> for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:45:37 +0000 Message-ID: <002e01bf8339$2e5ec300$060d4a0c@701c> From: "rudolph wratten" To: Subject: IBM 730T Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:46:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Don't worry, very few people will install Win 98 on a 105 meg harddrive. I also own one of these laptops so here is a tip with the 105mb hdd. If you use windows 95, which i recomend for the laptop, then use drive space. It is still suprisinly fast. That will get you ~150mb. Or if you use windows 98 drive space (dont install win98 though), you will get around 180mb. Or you could do what I did, I bought a 340mb hdd for $65. Garrett