From cph Wed Nov 1 00:38:13 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA25922 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 00:38:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03190; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 00:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 00:33:08 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02792; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 00:33:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02779; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 00:33:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (206.141.239.142 -> mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 00:33:05 -0500 Received: from Techshop ([64.108.197.182]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20001101053301.GEHG9976.mailhost.chi.ameritech.net@Techshop>; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 23:33:01 -0600 Message-ID: <006a01c043c3$93618760$0201a8c0@ameritech.net> From: "Matt Winston" To: "David Jones" , References: <200010302036.NAA13088@box3.pyrrhusoft.com> Subject: Re: [TP240] Porfolio Case? Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 23:21:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Yessirree, Port makes a nice one, includes both the portfolio (with a handle on top), and the outer case with three good sized pockets for ac adapter, cables, and one for letter (not legal) sized file folders. Part # on mine is TP56000-1.3 Fits the 560's and 240's. Has nice sturdy construction with ample padding/protection for your ThinkPad. You can use the outer case for holding the portfolio, or on it's own for an everyday case. The size is a bit smaller than conventional cases, very tailored look. Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Jones" To: Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 2:36 PM Subject: [TP240] Porfolio Case? Is there a portfolio case for the 240? Thanks, David Jones From cph Wed Nov 1 08:06:12 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id IAA28686 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 08:06:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29538; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 08:04:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 08:01:05 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28941; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 08:01:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-2.core.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28928; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 08:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-2.core.com (208.40.40.41 -> mx2.core.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 08:01:02 -0500 Received: from erichknobil ([216.214.112.252]) by smtp-2.core.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3CK1C04.O2N; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 07:58:24 -0500 From: "Erich Knobil" To: "Aaron R. Teitlebaum" Cc: Subject: RE: Mistakenly disabled suspend -- now can't undo it Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 07:09:33 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Thanks for your help! I followed the steps in the KB article, and everything is back to normal. I keep forgetting about using KB as a resource. Thanks for the reminder! -----Original Message----- From: Aaron R. Teitlebaum [mailto:arteitle@engin.umich.edu] Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 1:45 PM To: Erich Knobil Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mistakenly disabled suspend -- now can't undo it On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Erich Knobil wrote: > My fingers were quicker than my brain, and I mistakenly dismissed some > windows dialog box on boot-up by answering "yes" to something that > asked me if I wanted to disable suspend mode. Much to my chagrin, I > can't seem to find where to undo this. According to the settings in > the power applet in Control Panel, as well as in the Battery MaxiMizer > wizard, suspend should be enabled, but it's not. Now when I close the > lid, I just get a beep. What am I missing? BTW, this is on a T20 > running Win98. Thanks in advance if you can help! Microsoft's Knowledge Base has an article about fixing this: http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q188/1/34.ASP (If you asked me, since they built in functionality to disable suspend, they should have built in the option to reenable it as well...) Aaron Teitlebaum arteitle@engin.umich.edu From cph Wed Nov 1 09:50:16 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id JAA29380 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:50:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09327; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:46:46 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08992; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:46:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08975; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:46:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93 -> uhura.concentric.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:46:43 -0500 Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id JAA01314; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:46:41 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from rjwt20 (w067.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.67]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id JAA09607; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:46:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001101063338.0122fbe0@pop3.iceka.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka.com/pop3.iceka.com@pop3.iceka.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 06:46:19 -0800 To: "Erich Knobil" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: How About Suspend/Shutdown in Win2K? (was: Mistakenly disabled suspend -- now can't undo it) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 07:09 AM 11/1/2000 -0600, you wrote: > > lid, I just get a beep. What am I missing? BTW, this is on a T20 > > running Win98. Thanks in advance if you can help! > >Microsoft's Knowledge Base has an article about fixing this: > >http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q188/1/34.ASP Okay, here's something kinda related to this same problem... For the last week or two, my T20 with Win2K doesn't want to shut down "all the way" *or* suspend. The symptom is that it seems to go through its entire shut down procedure just fine, even to the dialog box saying, "Saving your settings", and I hear the hard drive stop spinning...but then it just leaves the blue background up with the mouse pointer in the middle, and the TFT screen w/ backlight on. It is as if the final thing it needs to do--shut the screen off--just doesn't happen. I hold the power button down for a few seconds, and it shuts off. It also boots normally (without running any disk utilities or acting as if it was shut down improperly), as well as doing a "restart" normally (where it doesn't need to shut off). Frankly, I wouldn't care about having to hold the power button to turn it all the way off, but this also affects the suspend function--it doesn't fully go into suspend because it doesn't shut off the screen. That *does* affect me a lot, because I (used to) use the suspend function frequently. BTW, when booting into Win98, there is no problem with shutdown. I have tried downloading new T20-specific drivers from IBM, but applying them hasn't helped any. I have also tried doing the Win2K "repair" procedure--again, it makes no difference. I have also tried the "Windows Update" route from MS--no difference. Is there something else? - Randy From cph Wed Nov 1 13:53:10 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA31667 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:53:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08755; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:45:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:33:57 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07279; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:33:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from passcal.passcal.nmt.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07190; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:33:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from passcal.passcal.nmt.edu (129.138.26.245 -> passcal.passcal.nmt.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:33:06 -0500 Received: from uniblab (uniblab.passcal.nmt.edu [129.138.26.32]) by passcal.passcal.nmt.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA22106 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:32:49 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <000c01c04432$257bd560$201a8a81@passcal.nmt.edu> From: "Bob Greschke" To: References: <200010302036.NAA13088@box3.pyrrhusoft.com> <006a01c043c3$93618760$0201a8c0@ameritech.net> Subject: PCMCIA CD-ROM for 760C Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:32:52 -0700 Organization: IRIS/PASSCAL Instrument Center - Socorro, New Mexico USA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: We have a 760C at work that sits on top of a GIGANTIC (prehistoric? :-) docking port. It's only function in life is to run FedEx and UPS shipping software (I cry evey time I walk by). We need to install some updated software, but there's no CD drive in the system. Any suggestions on a cheap, low-performance, PCMCIA drive for the system? I figure a PCMCIA drive would be good, then we can use it on other laptops we have. The 760C is running WIn95. Thanks! Bob From cph Wed Nov 1 14:15:40 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA31943 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:15:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11671; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:10:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:07:58 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11271; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:07:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0p.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11258; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:07:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0p.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.45 -> www0p.netaddress.usa.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:07:56 -0500 Received: (qmail 24028 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Nov 2000 19:07:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20001101190751.24022.qmail@www0p.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.45 by www0p for [156.98.20.1] via web-mailer(34WB1.4.03) on Wed Nov 1 19:07:51 GMT 2000 Date: 1 Nov 00 13:07:51 CST From: Rob Bell To: "Bob Greschke" , Subject: Re: PCMCIA CD-ROM for 760C X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (34WB1.4.03) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id OAA31944 It would be easier and cheaper if you could just borrow a network PCCard from another laptop and use it briefly to connect the 760 to a CD-ROM drive shared on another system. Alternatively, you could use direct cable connection to hook it up to another system with a CD-ROM drive. That requires a special 'null-modem' cable which you may not have, but is a lot cheaper than buying a new CD drive for the 760. HTH, Rob "Bob Greschke" wrote: > We have a 760C at work that sits on top of a GIGANTIC (prehistoric? > :-) docking port. It's only function in life is to run FedEx and UPS > shipping software (I cry evey time I walk by). We need to install > some updated software, but there's no CD drive in the system. Any > suggestions on a cheap, low-performance, PCMCIA drive for the system? > I figure a PCMCIA drive would be good, then we can use it on other > laptops we have. The 760C is running WIn95. > > Thanks! > > Bob > ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail From cph Wed Nov 1 14:52:59 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA32276 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:52:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17882; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:49:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:46:29 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17380; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:46:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17365; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:46:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.48 -> mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:46:18 -0500 Received: from ibmuser ([12.79.3.8]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001101194610.JFCM14078.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@ibmuser>; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:46:10 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c0443c$92143be0$08034f0c@ibmuser> From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "Bob Greschke" , Subject: Re: PCMCIA CD-ROM for 760C Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:47:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: How about a CNF 20X PCMCIA CD drive for $75.00 plus shipping? -----Original Message----- From: Bob Greschke To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 1:47 PM Subject: PCMCIA CD-ROM for 760C >We have a 760C at work that sits on top of a GIGANTIC (prehistoric? >:-) docking port. It's only function in life is to run FedEx and UPS >shipping software (I cry evey time I walk by). We need to install >some updated software, but there's no CD drive in the system. Any >suggestions on a cheap, low-performance, PCMCIA drive for the system? >I figure a PCMCIA drive would be good, then we can use it on other >laptops we have. The 760C is running WIn95. > >Thanks! > >Bob > > From cph Wed Nov 1 18:39:00 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA02441 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:38:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17919; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:36:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:32:25 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17389; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:32:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17369; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:32:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (208.147.154.56 -> fly.HiWAAY.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:32:22 -0500 Received: from dwreid (tnt10-216-180-65-149.dialup.hiwaay.net [216.180.65.149]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id eA1NVi700150; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:31:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005301c0445b$e94b1ae0$9541b4d8@dwreid> From: "David Reid" To: "Bob Greschke" , References: <200010302036.NAA13088@box3.pyrrhusoft.com> <006a01c043c3$93618760$0201a8c0@ameritech.net> <000c01c04432$257bd560$201a8a81@passcal.nmt.edu> Subject: Re: PCMCIA CD-ROM for 760C Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:31:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I just recieved a refurbed external 20x, pcmcia cdrom from "Louie" that has really breathed life back into my old TP360P. With that and a memory upgrade the ole 486 has been moved back into standby service :) I forgot who the guy was that posted about this, if he's readin' this . . . . THANKS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Greschke" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:32 PM Subject: PCMCIA CD-ROM for 760C > We have a 760C at work that sits on top of a GIGANTIC (prehistoric? > :-) docking port. It's only function in life is to run FedEx and UPS > shipping software (I cry evey time I walk by). We need to install > some updated software, but there's no CD drive in the system. Any > suggestions on a cheap, low-performance, PCMCIA drive for the system? > I figure a PCMCIA drive would be good, then we can use it on other > laptops we have. The 760C is running WIn95. > > Thanks! > > Bob > > From cph Wed Nov 1 18:56:15 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA02584 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:56:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20126; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:53:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:52:10 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19939; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:52:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19918; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (216.155.0.8 -> trinity.magpage.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:52:02 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (pm3-13-39.phl.magpage.com [216.155.62.192]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id eA1NpvX16007; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:51:58 -0500 From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "David Reid" , Subject: RE: PCMCIA CD-ROM for 760C Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:59:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: <005301c0445b$e94b1ae0$9541b4d8@dwreid> List-Unsubscribe: David Reid [mailto:dwreid@hiwaay.net] wrote: > I just recieved a refurbed external 20x, pcmcia cdrom from "Louie" that has > really breathed life back into my old TP360P. With that and a memory upgrade > the ole 486 has been moved back into standby service :) > > I forgot who the guy was that posted about this, if he's readin' this . . . > . THANKS It was me! You're welcome. And WHERE'S MY JELLYBEANS??? ;-) James From cph Wed Nov 1 19:53:01 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA03017 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:53:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25955; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:51:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:48:27 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25531; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:48:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25517; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from main.ismi.net (206.31.56.7 -> main.ismi.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:48:20 -0500 Received: from hh2140111.ismi.net (hi1hwl2-079.ismi.net [207.51.181.12]) by main.ismi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA28413 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:48:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002701c04467$45043dc0$6f8ca8cf@hh2140111.ismi.net> From: "Denis Hall" To: Subject: ThinkPad 770Z -- New in Box... ~$1500 ? Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:52:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 List-Unsubscribe: Hello groupies... This is very short notice-- I apologize -- Would any group members be interested in Brand New 770Z units (#9549-81u) which are PII 366 / 14.1"TFT XGA / 128mb RAM / 14.1GB HD / DVD Drive / 56K Modem / W98 for around $1500? http://www.pc.ibm.com/support?page=954981u&lang=en_US&doctype=&subtype=Cat I may be able to nab some as part of a larger purchase for my inventory needs...but I would only do so if some group members need these units... Units are Brand New, in Factory Sealed Boxes.... and there is a 50/50 chance I can get some.... I would need confirmation pretty quick (by morning).... Denis Hall, Michigan From cph Thu Nov 2 00:17:16 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA05443 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 00:17:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17241; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 00:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 00:08:15 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16905; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 00:08:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16886; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 00:08:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (209.226.175.40 -> tomts7.bellnexxia.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 00:08:05 -0500 Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.229.197.89]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001102050759.IQKP20301.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 00:07:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3A00F82A.8D90F152@sympatico.ca> Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 00:14:19 -0500 From: Rich Berdych X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP560: Keytop Removal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: H everybody, Greetngs from beautful Montreal, Canada! One of the keys on my three year old TP560 ('ll let you guess whch one :-) has been actng up recently. Sometmes have to press t two or three tmes before the keystroke regsters. At frst ths was just a mnor nconvenence, but now t's serously mparng my already lmted typng sklls. 'd lke to pop the key top off and blast some compressed ar nto t, but 'm afrad of damagng my baby. f you have removed a Thnkpad key top yourself, would you mnd gvng me some advce on how ths s best done? Many thanks n advance, Rch From cph Thu Nov 2 07:24:15 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id HAA07875 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:24:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11033; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:22:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:20:19 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10734; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:20:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtei1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10721; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:20:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtei1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.159 -> gtei1.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:20:18 -0500 Received: from emendels (adsl-151-202-104-127.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.202.104.127]) by gtei1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA29680; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:20:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001a01c044c7$4152cce0$010afea9@zd.com> From: "Edward Mendelson" To: "Bob Greschke" , References: <200010302036.NAA13088@box3.pyrrhusoft.com> <006a01c043c3$93618760$0201a8c0@ameritech.net> <000c01c04432$257bd560$201a8a81@passcal.nmt.edu> Subject: Re: PCMCIA CD-ROM for 760C Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:20:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Bob, That sounds like a Dock II (3546-001). It's easy to find an internal CD-ROM for it. Try Denis Hall (denhall@ismi.net), who is also on this list. Edward ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Greschke" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 1:32 PM Subject: PCMCIA CD-ROM for 760C > > We have a 760C at work that sits on top of a GIGANTIC (prehistoric? > :-) docking port. It's only function in life is to run FedEx and UPS > shipping software (I cry evey time I walk by). We need to install > some updated software, but there's no CD drive in the system. Any > suggestions on a cheap, low-performance, PCMCIA drive for the system? > I figure a PCMCIA drive would be good, then we can use it on other > laptops we have. The 760C is running WIn95. > > Thanks! > > Bob > > From cph Thu Nov 2 11:13:19 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA09815 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:13:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29974; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:11:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:08:22 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29607; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:08:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.registeredsite.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29592; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:08:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.registeredsite.com (209.35.159.14 -> mail3.registeredsite.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:08:18 -0500 Received: from mail.ctrecords.com (mail.ctrecords.com [209.35.16.57]) by mail3.registeredsite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28159 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:05:47 -0500 Received: from aem [207.104.245.11] by mail.ctrecords.com (SMTPD32-6.00) id A15C117200FA; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: I have been replying to you for days, but your email bounces -----Original Message----- From: Bob Greschke To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 1:47 PM Subject: PCMCIA CD-ROM for 760C >We have a 760C at work that sits on top of a GIGANTIC (prehistoric? >:-) docking port. It's only function in life is to run FedEx and UPS >shipping software (I cry evey time I walk by). We need to install >some updated software, but there's no CD drive in the system. Any >suggestions on a cheap, low-performance, PCMCIA drive for the system? >I figure a PCMCIA drive would be good, then we can use it on other >laptops we have. The 760C is running WIn95. > >Thanks! > >Bob > > From cph Thu Nov 2 14:23:17 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA11906 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:23:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17642; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:18:27 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17085; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:18:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from regulus.blazenet.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17029; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from regulus.blazenet.net (24.104.0.39 -> regulus.blazenet.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:18:08 -0500 Received: from sunshine (ip102.37.blca.blazenet.net [24.104.37.102]) by regulus.blazenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA11826 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:28:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003d01c04501$287f7760$6601a8c0@sunshine> From: "Sunshine" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:14:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C044D7.3ED863C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C044D7.3ED863C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C044D7.3ED863C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C044D7.3ED863C0-- From cph Thu Nov 2 15:31:10 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA12436 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:31:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23256; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:24:25 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22868; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:24:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22847; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:24:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.60 -> smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:24:05 -0500 Received: from 216-164-130-35.s543.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.130.35]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13rQu3-0005IS-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 02 Nov 2000 15:24:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:24:58 -0500 From: Donald MacQueen X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45) Personal Reply-To: Donald MacQueen X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <28111356270.20001102152458@erols.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: are there carbus types? In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a 600 model 2645-41a. the specs at ibm say that the machine supports "cardbus 32-bit". on the basis of that statement I am thinking of buying a 'Linksys etherfast 10/100 integrated cardbus pc card' model pcm200. I hate to be paranoid, but I don't want to buy something I can't use. So the question is: are there various types/versions of cardbus I should be aware of, or is cardbus just cardbus is cardbus, and I should just buy the stupid card? thanks in advance. -- Donald Donald M. MacQueen Registered Smalltalk Bigot, [Esq.] From cph Thu Nov 2 15:59:37 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA12689 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:59:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25748; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:53:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:52:01 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25575; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:52:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25508; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:51:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from amanda.dorsai.org (206.127.32.130 -> amanda.dorsai.org) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:51:15 -0500 Received: (from higgins@localhost) by amanda.dorsai.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA28659 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:51:08 -0500 (EST) From: John Higgins Message-Id: <200011022051.PAA28659@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: Upgrading 560e drive To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad List) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:51:07 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I'm planning to upgrade the 2gb drive on my 560e to 8-10gb or so, but I'm an idiot at this stuff. I know I proabably need to flash my BIOS. But otherwise can I just use and old 2.5in, 12.5mm drive or do I need to watch out for something special??? Dirt Cheap Drives has good looking deal on a Travelstar 20GN Ultra ATA/66 for just $159. I presume Thinkpads.com will also have whatever I need. Any suggestions???? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Higgins higgins@dorsai.org v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From cph Thu Nov 2 16:13:45 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA13079 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:13:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27498; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:07:03 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27138; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:07:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27111; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:06:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (216.155.0.8 -> trinity.magpage.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:06:58 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (pm3-12-15.phl.magpage.com [216.155.62.120]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id eA2L6kG30871; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:06:47 -0500 From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Donald MacQueen" , Subject: RE: are there carbus types? Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:14:34 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: <28111356270.20001102152458@erols.com> List-Unsubscribe: Cardbus is cardbus Donald. Cardbus=PCI=32BIT. Non-cardbus PCMCIA=ISA=16BIT. Regards, James > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald MacQueen [mailto:dmacq@erols.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 3:25 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: are there carbus types? > > > I have a 600 model 2645-41a. the specs at ibm say that the machine > supports "cardbus 32-bit". on the basis of that statement I am > thinking of buying a 'Linksys etherfast 10/100 integrated cardbus pc > card' model pcm200. > > I hate to be paranoid, but I don't want to buy something I can't use. > So the question is: are there various types/versions of cardbus I > should be aware of, or is cardbus just cardbus is cardbus, and I > should just buy the stupid card? > > thanks in advance. > > -- > Donald > > Donald M. MacQueen > Registered Smalltalk Bigot, [Esq.] > > From cph Thu Nov 2 16:23:41 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA13195 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:23:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28952; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:21:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:18:34 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28535; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:18:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28446; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:18:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.48 -> mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:18:04 -0500 Received: from 25.chicago-23-24rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.157.25]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001102211758.ZLUO14078.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@25.chicago-23-24rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:17:58 +0000 From: epbrown01@att.net (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad items FS Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 21:18:01 GMT Reply-To: epbrown01@att.net Message-ID: <3a05d493.106120282@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id QAA13196 I've got the following items for sale: 2 32MB 144-pin PC66 SO-DIMMs from my 600E. These work in most Thinkpads without a 100 Mhz bus, I think (240, 390, 570, etc) I'm asking $30 ea with shipping included. Thinkpad 240 Extended Lithium Ion battery - I've used this a couple of months and not that often, maybe 60 charge cycles. $60 IBM Thinkpad 730T - complete system with dock, 105MB pc card drive, AC adapter, battery charger, and photocopy of the manuals. I bought 2 of these 6 months ago for a project, and I've no idea what it was (something to do with the PC 110, which I also had at the time). This one is still in the box, unopened, from whoever I got it from on eBay. I'm asking $75 for it. The stuff I don't here from anyone about by 1 a.m. Saturday morning CST goes up on eBay. I accept Paypal. Emanuel "Everybody wants a normal life and a cool car; most people settle for the car." Chris Titus 1983 911 SC http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/91183.jpg From cph Thu Nov 2 17:42:31 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA13852 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:42:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06608; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:37:10 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06244; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:37:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot16.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06229; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot16.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.36 -> pilot16.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:37:05 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (cherryholmes.pls.msu.edu [35.8.65.41]) by pilot16.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eA2Mb1W20860 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:37:01 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001102173521.01f91530@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 17:38:09 -0500 To: From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: RE: are there carbus types? In-Reply-To: References: <28111356270.20001102152458@erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Cardbbus is cardbus, but you might well want to rethink your choice of a Limksys card. I just got a 10Mbit version for someone, and the way the dongle connects into the PCMCIA card is *lousy*. In fact, it basically came pre-broken from the factory. I do not hold out much useful life for this card. The only saving grace for me is that the person I bought it for is almost never in his office. So, I'd look around a bit more for other cards. --STeve Andre' At 05:14 PM 11/2/00 -0500, James H. E. Maugham wrote: >Cardbus is cardbus Donald. Cardbus=PCI=32BIT. Non-cardbus PCMCIA=ISA=16BIT. > >Regards, > >James > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Donald MacQueen [mailto:dmacq@erols.com] > > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 3:25 PM > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: are there carbus types? > > > > > > I have a 600 model 2645-41a. the specs at ibm say that the machine > > supports "cardbus 32-bit". on the basis of that statement I am > > thinking of buying a 'Linksys etherfast 10/100 integrated cardbus pc > > card' model pcm200. > > > > I hate to be paranoid, but I don't want to buy something I can't use. > > So the question is: are there various types/versions of cardbus I > > should be aware of, or is cardbus just cardbus is cardbus, and I > > should just buy the stupid card? > > > > thanks in advance. > > > > -- > > Donald > > > > Donald M. MacQueen > > Registered Smalltalk Bigot, [Esq.] > > > > From cph Thu Nov 2 18:37:45 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA14351 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:37:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10556; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:33:12 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10271; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10249; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:33:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (194.29.192.20 -> netsonic.fi) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:33:05 -0500 Received: from TP560X (letku107.adsl.netsonic.fi [194.29.195.107]) by nalle.netsonic.fi (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id eA2NWe709277 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 01:32:44 +0200 Message-Id: <200011022332.eA2NWe709277@nalle.netsonic.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 01:32:35 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <200011022051.PAA28659@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: Re: Upgrading 560e drive X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.2 List-Unsubscribe: I had no problem to add a 18 GB drive in my 560x but the 560e may not accept drives as big as the ones you have in mind. People in the know should be able to give you a more definite answer. As to instructions about the physical part of the upgrade, you will find them on thinkpads.com. There are many screws to unscrew! -Dominique On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 at 03:51 PM you, John Higgins , said: >I'm planning to upgrade the 2gb drive on my 560e to 8-10gb or so, but I'm >an idiot at this stuff. I know I proabably need to flash my BIOS. But >otherwise can I just use and old 2.5in, 12.5mm drive or do I need to >watch out for something special??? Dirt Cheap Drives has good looking >deal on a Travelstar 20GN Ultra ATA/66 for just $159. I presume >Thinkpads.com will also have whatever I need. Any suggestions???? From cph Thu Nov 2 21:58:43 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA16118 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:58:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24427; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:56:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:52:49 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24057; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:52:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24032; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:52:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.19 -> cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:52:43 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer - 63.48.0.13 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:52:37 -0800 Message-ID: <003a01c04541$3da099e0$0d00303f@oemcomputer> From: "Brad Burean" To: "John Higgins" Cc: "Thinkpad Users" References: <200011022051.PAA28659@amanda.dorsai.org> Subject: Re: Upgrading 560e drive Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 20:53:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: I thought 6 gigs was as big as a 560E could take, I hope it's more. Booger http://communities.msn.com/CyberboogersFunThinkpads ----- Original Message ----- From: John Higgins To: Thinkpad List Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 2:51 PM Subject: Upgrading 560e drive > I'm planning to upgrade the 2gb drive on my 560e to 8-10gb or so, but I'm > an idiot at this stuff. I know I proabably need to flash my BIOS. But > otherwise can I just use and old 2.5in, 12.5mm drive or do I need to > watch out for something special??? Dirt Cheap Drives has good looking deal > on a Travelstar 20GN Ultra ATA/66 for just $159. I presume Thinkpads.com > will also have whatever I need. Any suggestions???? > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > John M. Higgins > higgins@dorsai.org > v)212-337-7024/f)212-337-7028 > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > From cph Thu Nov 2 23:17:00 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA16535 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:17:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28486; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:14:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:11:23 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28227; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:11:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from rad3.1stup.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28212; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:11:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from rad3.1stup.com (209.143.242.34 -> rad3.1stup.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:11:16 -0500 Received: from mail.orion.org (slip-32-100-176-141.mo.us.prserv.net [32.100.176.141]) by rad3.1stup.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eA34Ar506365 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 20:10:58 -0800 Message-ID: <3A02180E.E1D48990@mail.orion.org> Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 19:42:38 -0600 From: Shawn Lin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad List Subject: FS: 32MB SDRAM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a 32MB SDRAM SO-DIMM for ThinkPad 600-series and 240-series. It is BRAND NEW never used, Crucial brand. Compatible with 42H2819 I believe. I will sell it for my cost, $30. Complete in original retail package. I bought it to try in my 560X. NOPE, doesn't work. 560X has the 430TX chipset which is compatible with SDRAM, but GUESS WHAT? 64Mbit SDRAM support is turned off in BIOS! Wish I could change it, but even if I turn that bit on, it will be reset when I power down the machine. Shaw ________________________________________________________ 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com From cph Thu Nov 2 23:48:50 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA16682 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:48:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00520; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:46:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:44:25 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00132; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00115; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (206.141.239.142 -> mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:44:21 -0500 Received: from Techshop ([64.108.196.209]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20001103044403.UDMZ9976.mailhost.chi.ameritech.net@Techshop>; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 22:44:03 -0600 Message-ID: <003501c0454f$604d8580$0201a8c0@ameritech.net> From: "Matt Winston" To: "Bob Greschke" , References: <000c01c04432$257bd560$201a8a81@passcal.nmt.edu> Subject: Better CD-ROM for 760C Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 22:34:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Sounds like you have Dock model I or II, most likely II, that's the big one. An inexpensive scsi cdrom (half height) will pop right in and give you what you need. The docks have the scsi cable and power connector built right in. Diagrams and specs are found on IBM's website. It's not hard to get the drive installed and setup for the system to recognize. I've worked on several and the results are great for almost no dollars. The Scsi cd-roms are readily available for between $15 and $25, and that's all you need to get things running. Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Greschke" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:32 PM Subject: PCMCIA CD-ROM for 760C We have a 760C at work that sits on top of a GIGANTIC (prehistoric? :-) docking port. It's only function in life is to run FedEx and UPS shipping software (I cry evey time I walk by). We need to install some updated software, but there's no CD drive in the system. Any suggestions on a cheap, low-performance, PCMCIA drive for the system? I figure a PCMCIA drive would be good, then we can use it on other laptops we have. The 760C is running WIn95. Thanks! Bob From cph Fri Nov 3 00:01:31 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA17038 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 00:01:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01970; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:59:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:57:36 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01697; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot13.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01684; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot13.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.33 -> pilot13.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:57:33 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (cherryholmes.pls.msu.edu [35.8.65.41]) by pilot13.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eA34vUD41396 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 23:57:30 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001102235536.01f9d130@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 23:58:38 -0500 To: From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Better CD-ROM for 760C In-Reply-To: <003501c0454f$604d8580$0201a8c0@ameritech.net> References: <000c01c04432$257bd560$201a8a81@passcal.nmt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Bob, an alternative for you might be to use the peer-to-peer network export abilities between Windows machines, such that a CD from another Windows machine on your network could be accessed from the 760C you mention, giving you the option to install software that way. Or have you already tried that...? --STeve Andre' >From: "Bob Greschke" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:32 PM >Subject: PCMCIA CD-ROM for 760C > > >We have a 760C at work that sits on top of a GIGANTIC (prehistoric? >:-) docking port. It's only function in life is to run FedEx and UPS >shipping software (I cry evey time I walk by). We need to install >some updated software, but there's no CD drive in the system. Any >suggestions on a cheap, low-performance, PCMCIA drive for the system? >I figure a PCMCIA drive would be good, then we can use it on other >laptops we have. The 760C is running WIn95. > >Thanks! > >Bob From cph Fri Nov 3 01:56:51 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA17685 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 01:56:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07217; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 01:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 01:52:49 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA06852; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 01:52:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA06822; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 01:52:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 01:52:42 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA02979 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 20:52:18 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001101c04562$965f1860$b762183f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Thinkpad List" References: <3A02180E.E1D48990@mail.orion.org> Subject: Re: 32MB SDRAM Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 20:51:52 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > I bought it to try in my 560X. NOPE, doesn't work. 560X has the 430TX > chipset which is compatible with SDRAM, but GUESS WHAT? 64Mbit SDRAM > support is turned off in BIOS! Wish I could change it, but even if I > turn that bit on, it will be reset when I power down the machine. Likely wouldn't work anyway; both the chipset, the BIOS, *and* the hardware interface have to support the memory type. It is common for 2 motherboards to share a chipset and even BIOS but have different permissible memory configuartions. - David R. From cph Fri Nov 3 06:36:52 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id GAA19623 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:36:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25016; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:35:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:32:58 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24793; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:32:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA24780; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:32:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from slarti.muc.de (193.149.48.10 -> slarti.muc.de) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:32:56 -0500 Received: (qmail 28371 invoked by uid 66); 3 Nov 2000 11:39:03 -0000 Received: from seneca by slarti with UUCP; Fri Nov 3 11:39:03 2000 -0000 Received: by seneca.muc.de (Postfix, from userid 2425) id CF1CED4A9; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:37:56 +0100 (CET) From: Harald Milz Subject: Re: Linux on 365X...is it possible? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu References: Organization: X-Pgp-Public-Key: http://www.muc.de/~hm/pgp.asc or finger hm [at] muc.de X-Nospam: I do not want to receive unsolicited advertising! X-Reply-To: Replies to the From address will go to /dev/null. Use Reply-To. X-no-archive: yes Reply-To: h.milz@seneca.muc.de Message-Id: <20001103103756.CF1CED4A9@seneca.muc.de> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:37:56 +0100 (CET) Sender: hm@seneca.muc.de List-Unsubscribe: Michelle Klein-Hass wrote: > Heya all...I have a 365X with 40MB RAM (maxed according to IBM) and a 4.3GB HD. > I want to de-Assimilate it from the Redmond Collective. In short...I want > to run Linux. Actually running FreeBSD is also an option I can pursue too, > if that would be better supported. > Will XFree v. 4 support the onboard video on the 365X? I know that KDE2 -> http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ -- In America today ... we have Woody Allen, whose humor has become so sophisticated that nobody gets it any more except Mia Farrow. All those who think Mia Farrow should go back to making movies where the devil gets her pregnant and Woody Allen should go back to dressing up as a human sperm, please raise your hands. Thank you. -- Dave Barry, "Why Humor is Funny" From cph Fri Nov 3 15:39:49 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA24433 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:39:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13500; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:38:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:33:31 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12724; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:33:27 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id PAA08134 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:33:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay21.smtp.psi.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03752; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:07:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay21.smtp.psi.net (38.8.22.2 -> relay21.smtp.psi.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:07:22 -0500 Received: from ntmail.doble.com ([204.215.186.11]) by relay21.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 13rmBI-0002EP-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 03 Nov 2000 14:07:17 -0500 Received: by NTMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:05:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: [TP365&600]Compatibility of parts IBM does not mention Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:05:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Hello, When I got the 365XD working I thought I could use all the 365ED stuff with it. This was only partly true. The batteries and the power adapter worked but a boot disk in the floppy was not recognized. The floppy worked fine under windows but I needed boot capability for installing the new 4 gig drive. This floppy has an integrated cable and apparently only meant for the 365ED. I spent alittle time figuring out why it had problems. I ended up spending $100 dollars for the 10H4056 drive and matching 46H8096 (FRU 74H0219) cable. It appears that I can use this drive for other thinkpads if I get the proper cable. The new floppy works on both laptops. The new floppy and cable seem less expensive than the old 365ED floppy. It is difficult to figure out why the old one does not work on the new machine as the pinouts are nearly identical. There are some added signal lines that are not used. There is one pin on the old floppy not used on the new floppy. I did manage to figure out most of the pinout of the 365's ext. floppy port. The old floppy used a Newtronics Mitsumi D359F and the new one a TEAC FD-05HF 5653-U. I also noticed mentioned on this list that the 64 meg memory part will work in the 365XD. It is interesting to see that the 32 meg part is cheap but the 64 meg part is expensive. I may go for the 32 meg part and have a 40 meg machine. IBM seems to track some of this compatibility stuff but only to a point. Am I correct that the DVD for the 600e will work in a 600? IBM seems to indicate no. There may be limitations due to the video chipset in the 600 to playback movies but I am mainly interested in DVD as a super CD. The only problem I have is the disk tray for the 365XD. The 4 gig drive has different mounting holes. I noticed that the cover on the 365XD that goes over the HD has tape over the two holes for the >2 gig drive. I just need the tray to mount the drive. The 365XD recognized the 4 gig drive without problems. The 365ED needs disk manager for windows to get out of MSDOS compatibility mode. Anyone know where I can get a tray? 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com From cph Fri Nov 3 18:51:35 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA26099 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:51:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00120; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:50:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:47:32 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29754; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29731; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:47:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (194.221.183.20 -> pop.gmx.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:47:25 -0500 Received: (qmail 16199 invoked by uid 0); 3 Nov 2000 23:47:17 -0000 Received: from dialup-56-73.dplanet.ch (HELO sony) (212.35.56.73) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 23:47:17 -0000 From: Ditch To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Backup program that uses CDR directly? Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 00:49:47 +0100 Reply-To: ditched@gmx.net Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id SAA26100 Could somebody recommend a backup program for Windows 2000 that backsup to CDR's? From cph Fri Nov 3 19:13:44 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA26259 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:13:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02082; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:12:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:11:20 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01859; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:11:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.halfpricehosting.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01846; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.halfpricehosting.com (208.141.56.201) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:11:19 -0500 Received: from Mailserver249 (mailserver249.halfpricehosting.com [12.30.178.249]) by smtp1.halfpricehosting.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:11:22 -0500 Received: from snapper3 [203.97.54.78] by Mailserver249 with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.05) id A61410FC0130; Fri, 03 Nov 2000 19:19:32 -0500 From: "Will Lau" To: , Subject: RE: Backup program that uses CDR directly? Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:11:30 +1300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I hear Retrospect is pretty good, it supports incremental backup which will save time. It runs under Win2000. I haven't trialled it enough to trust it. I prefer ghost (and trust it), but it's ugly to use (boot into DOS), and it sure was fussy getting it work with Win2000 NTFS partitions. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ditch [mailto:ditched@gmx.net] > Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 12:50 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Backup program that uses CDR directly? > > > Could somebody recommend a backup program for Windows 2000 that > backsup to CDR's? > From cph Fri Nov 3 20:28:13 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA27053 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:28:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09101; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:27:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:25:12 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08840; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:25:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA08824; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:25:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:25:09 -0500 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (hetherington.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.16.3]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00243; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:25:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A036571.8656FD16@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 20:25:05 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ditched@gmx.net CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Backup program that uses CDR directly? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I've successfully used the latest DriveImage to image directly to CD-R (ultraslim bay) on my T20. It might even produce bootable CD-Rs that contain the DriveImage program so restoration is that much easier. You can also now browse an image and retrieve individual files and directories. Not bad. --Lee Hetherington From cph Fri Nov 3 22:44:39 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA27887 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 22:44:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17793; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 22:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 22:40:58 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17518; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 22:40:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17503; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 22:40:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93 -> uhura.concentric.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 3 Nov 2000 22:40:56 -0500 Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id WAA28866; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 22:40:49 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from rjwt20 (w067.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.67]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id WAA23696; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 22:40:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001103192603.00a63c20@pop3.iceka.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka.com/pop3.iceka.com@pop3.iceka.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 19:28:49 -0800 To: ditched@gmx.net, TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Backup program that uses CDR directly? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 12:49 AM 11/4/2000 +0100, you wrote: >Could somebody recommend a backup program for Windows 2000 that >backsup to CDR's? When I had a Mac for a while, there was a *great* backup program on that platform called "Retrospect". It has since been migrated to the Windows platform (I think it works under Win2K too). If its anything like the Mac one, then its great. I noticed a version of it came bundled with that cheap Sony USB external CD-R that was all the rage on this list a few weeks ago. I managed to get one, and installed (but haven't yet looked at) this bundled version of Retrospect. I know it backs up to CD-R / CD-RW too. Alternative method would be Powerquest's Drive Image program--its a good way to go, and its latest version (4?) backs up to CD-R too. From cph Sat Nov 4 00:59:42 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA28811 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 00:59:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24981; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 00:58:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 00:55:16 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24657; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 00:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.registeredsite.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24632; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 00:55:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.registeredsite.com (209.35.159.13 -> mail2.registeredsite.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 00:55:14 -0500 Received: from mail.ctrecords.com (mail.ctrecords.com [209.35.16.57]) by mail2.registeredsite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA24728 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 01:51:37 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 00:54:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200011040054.AA336396562@mail.ctrecords.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "A Enoch Meza" Reply-To: To: Subject: unsubscribe X-Mailer: List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe From cph Sat Nov 4 11:24:05 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA31881 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:24:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18687; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:23:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:21:12 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18344; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18331; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:21:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (207.155.198.79 -> darius.concentric.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:21:09 -0500 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id LAA27790; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:21:08 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from rjwt20 (w067.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.67]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id LAA15218; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:21:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001104081633.0123f800@pop3.iceka.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka.com/pop3.iceka.com@pop3.iceka.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:20:44 -0800 To: TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: T20 Display features? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Hello all, Those of you familiar with the on-screen display features of newer thinkpads...perhaps you can help me. You know--the on-screen things that show the volume level when you change it, or the brightness of the screen, or even the little keyboard light. They're not there anymore! I don't know what happened to them. Which driver/feature needs to be installed to get them back? I didn't have any luck with installing the video drivers again. For that matter, Win2K doesn't want to shut down all the way for me anymore (or suspend properly). This has all happened rather recently. I've tried updating new drivers, new BIOS, etc. but nothing seems to fix it. Help? From cph Sat Nov 4 11:51:57 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA31985 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:51:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20597; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:50:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:49:18 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20368; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:49:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20355; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:49:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:49:16 -0500 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (hetherington.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.16.3]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03860; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:49:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A043E08.186E3BD3@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 11:49:12 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randal Whittle CC: TP List Subject: Re: T20 Display features? References: <4.2.0.58.20001104081633.0123f800@pop3.iceka.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I think the on-screen volume etc. are W2K features. I seem to recall seeing configuration for them (e.g., selecting the color and font of the displays). I'll try to find them on my T20, but I don't have it with me currently. --Lee Hetherington From cph Sat Nov 4 12:01:56 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA32286 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:01:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21678; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:58:57 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21311; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:58:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-2.sjc.telocity.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21298; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:58:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-2.sjc.telocity.net (216.227.56.42 -> mail-2.sjc.telocity.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:58:53 -0500 Received: from jeff (dsl-216-227-31-61.chi.interchangedsl.com [216.227.31.61]) by mail-2.sjc.telocity.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09250; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 08:55:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000701c04680$440af1a0$04a8a8c0@jeff> Reply-To: "Jeff Fayne" From: "Jeff Fayne" To: "TP List" , "Randal Whittle" References: <4.2.0.58.20001104081633.0123f800@pop3.iceka.com> Subject: Re: T20 Display features? Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 10:57:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Don't have a T20, but I just installed a Logitech Cordless Keyboard on my desktop that has the multimedia/mail/internet buttons and there is an on-screen display setting in its Control panel applet. Perhaps it's under control panel keyboard applet or under the ThinkPad applet? Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randal Whittle" To: "TP List" Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:20 AM Subject: T20 Display features? > Hello all, > > Those of you familiar with the on-screen display features of newer > thinkpads...perhaps you can help me. You know--the on-screen things that > show the volume level when you change it, or the brightness of the screen, > or even the little keyboard light. > > They're not there anymore! I don't know what happened to them. Which > driver/feature needs to be installed to get them back? I didn't have any > luck with installing the video drivers again. > > For that matter, Win2K doesn't want to shut down all the way for me > anymore (or suspend properly). This has all happened rather recently. > > I've tried updating new drivers, new BIOS, etc. but nothing seems to fix it. > > Help? > From cph Sat Nov 4 12:17:27 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA32349 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:17:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23310; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:14:53 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22902; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:14:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22888; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:14:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (207.155.198.79 -> darius.concentric.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:14:45 -0500 Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id MAA05180; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:14:40 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from rjwt20 (w067.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.67]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id MAA06785; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:14:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001104091120.0123e0d0@pop3.iceka.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka.com/pop3.iceka.com@pop3.iceka.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 09:14:12 -0800 To: Greg Langham , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: RE: T20 Display features? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 10:29 AM 11/4/2000 -0600, you wrote: >On my A20 with Windows 2000, I right-click on the desktop, then click >properties. On the Display properties dialog, click the "Settings" tab, >then click the "advanced" button. > > From there, you should have an "On Screen Display" tab. That tab contains > a check box that lets you enable or disable the On-screen display. Thank you Greg...but unfortunately, for whatever reason, I *don't* have that "On Screen Display" Tab! I know I used to have it. But not anymore. I've tried re-installing (even a complete uninstall) the Video drivers, but no luck. Any other ideas? (Or for that matter, if anyone knows how to solve the shutdown/standby problem, I'd very much appreciate it. :-) - Randy >-----Original Message----- >From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@usa.net] >Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:21 AM >To: TP List >Subject: T20 Display features? > >Hello all, > > Those of you familiar with the on-screen display features of newer >thinkpads...perhaps you can help me. You know--the on-screen things that >show the volume level when you change it, or the brightness of the screen, >or even the little keyboard light. > > They're not there anymore! I don't know what happened to > them. Which >driver/feature needs to be installed to get them back? I didn't have any >luck with installing the video drivers again. > > For that matter, Win2K doesn't want to shut down all the way for me >anymore (or suspend properly). This has all happened rather recently. > > I've tried updating new drivers, new BIOS, etc. but nothing seems > to fix it. > >Help? From cph Sat Nov 4 13:19:47 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA32606 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:19:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00186; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:16:02 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29859; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from NewPad (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29840; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from NewPad (198.144.205.90 -> m205-90.dsl.tsoft.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:15:54 -0500 Received: from 172.16.74.1 by NewPad ([172.16.74.1] running VPOP3) with ESMTP; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 10:15:48 -0800 From: "Michael Geary" To: "Cottrell, Eric" , Subject: RE: [TP365&600]Compatibility of parts IBM does not mention Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 10:15:47 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.4.0b - Registered List-Unsubscribe: > IBM seems to track some of this compatibility stuff but only to a > point. Am I correct that the DVD for the 600e will work in a > 600? IBM seems to indicate no. There may be limitations due > to the video chipset in the 600 to playback movies > but I am mainly interested in DVD as a super CD. There are two Ultraslimbay DVD drives, the 2X and the 6X. Both of them work in a 600. (I've used them both.) You're right, a straight 600 will not be fast enough for good DVD movie playback unless you get a Margi card or equivalent, but it will be fine for reading data DVDs. -Mike From cph Sat Nov 4 13:38:24 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA32686 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:38:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02483; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:36:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:34:22 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02120; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:34:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02107; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:34:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (207.69.200.243 -> maynard.mail.mindspring.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:34:21 -0500 Received: from tp1721 (user-33qt9bp.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.165.121]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA19534 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:34:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00c901c0468d$d8ab1e40$79a5aec7@tp1721> From: "Chuck S." To: Subject: Flickering LCD Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:34:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: My i1723 TP LCD occasionally flickers. I had this problem once before, but it went away when the screen was replaced by Easy-serve for an entirely different reason. A year later, it's back. It seems to have coincided with using a new battery, although I use an AC adapter almost exclusively. Or, could it be related to the change in weather (temperature and humidity). I'll probably send it to Easy-serve again if it gets worse, but I'm wondering if just reseating the LCD connector might solve the problem. Is this something I can do myself? Any other ideas? Thanks, Chuck From cph Sat Nov 4 13:46:22 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA32740 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:46:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03689; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:42:04 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03345; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:42:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot10.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03330; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot10.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.30 -> pilot10.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:42:02 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (pm703-30.dialip.mich.net [207.74.116.40]) by pilot10.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eA4Ifwi36482 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:41:58 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001104133835.02602ca0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 13:43:00 -0500 To: From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Flickering LCD In-Reply-To: <00c901c0468d$d8ab1e40$79a5aec7@tp1721> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Interestingly, I am in the same boat as you. I'm writing this on a 1451i, which had its screen replaced more than a year ago for the pink-screen problem, and just lately I've been noticing some flickering. I think it's related to screen brightness. If I take the brightness all the way down I don't think I get much flickering at all, if any. Also, it seems to come and go. At this point I'm not sure what the problem is, but I more suspect the power supply for the backlight display, if in fact my turning the brightness down does really help stop it. If it is a power supply problem, rest assured that we'll both have dead screens eventually. (sigh) I think this is going to be one of the longer term waeknesses in the i Series units, display flicker. My 1480i seems to have avoided this, so hopefully it doesn't affect all units. STeve Andre' At 12:34 PM 11/4/00 -0600, Chuck S. wrote: >My i1723 TP LCD occasionally flickers. I had this problem once before, but >it went away when the screen was replaced by Easy-serve for an entirely >different reason. A year later, it's back. It seems to have coincided with >using a new battery, although I use an AC adapter almost exclusively. Or, >could it be related to the change in weather (temperature and humidity). >I'll probably send it to Easy-serve again if it gets worse, but I'm >wondering if just reseating the LCD connector might solve the problem. Is >this something I can do myself? Any other ideas? > >Thanks, >Chuck From cph Sat Nov 4 17:07:18 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA01413 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:07:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18463; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:05:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:00:32 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17961; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:00:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:00:30 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id RAA06644 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:00:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from porkchop.ubh.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19052; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:26:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from porkchop.ubh.com (216.98.165.6) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:26:24 -0500 Received: by porkchop.ubh.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 10:29:34 -0600 Message-ID: From: Greg Langham To: "'Randal Whittle'" , TP List Subject: RE: T20 Display features? Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 10:29:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0467C.6A56574A" List-Unsubscribe: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0467C.6A56574A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Randal, On my A20 with Windows 2000, I right-click on the desktop, then click properties. On the Display properties dialog, click the "Settings" tab, then click the "advanced" button. From there, you should have an "On Screen Display" tab. That tab contains a check box that lets you enable or disable the On-screen display. Hope this helps! Greg -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@usa.net] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:21 AM To: TP List Subject: T20 Display features? Hello all, Those of you familiar with the on-screen display features of newer thinkpads...perhaps you can help me. You know--the on-screen things that show the volume level when you change it, or the brightness of the screen, or even the little keyboard light. They're not there anymore! I don't know what happened to them. Which driver/feature needs to be installed to get them back? I didn't have any luck with installing the video drivers again. For that matter, Win2K doesn't want to shut down all the way for me anymore (or suspend properly). This has all happened rather recently. I've tried updating new drivers, new BIOS, etc. but nothing seems to fix it. Help? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0467C.6A56574A Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: T20 Display features?

Randal,

On my A20 with Windows 2000, I right-click on the = desktop, then click properties. On the Display properties dialog, click = the "Settings" tab, then click the "advanced" = button.

From there, you should have an "On Screen = Display" tab. That tab contains a check box that lets you enable = or disable the On-screen display.

Hope this helps!

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@usa.net]
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:21 AM
To: TP List
Subject: T20 Display features?


Hello all,

        Those of = you familiar with the on-screen display features of newer
thinkpads...perhaps you can help me.  You = know--the on-screen things that
show the volume level when you change it, or the = brightness of the screen,
or even the little keyboard light.

        They're = not there anymore!  I don't know what happened to them.  = Which
driver/feature needs to be installed to get them = back?  I didn't have any
luck with installing the video drivers again.

        For that = matter, Win2K doesn't want to shut down all the way for me
anymore (or suspend properly).  This has all = happened rather recently.

        I've tried = updating new drivers, new BIOS, etc. but nothing seems to fix = it.

Help?

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0467C.6A56574A-- From cph Sat Nov 4 17:38:33 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA01545 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:38:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20541; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:37:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:35:47 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20317; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:35:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20286; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (207.155.198.79 -> darius.concentric.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:35:41 -0500 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id RAA10573; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:35:39 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from rjwt20 (w067.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.67]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id RAA03911; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:35:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001104143352.02923c58@pop3.iceka.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka.com/pop3.iceka.com@pop3.iceka.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 14:35:11 -0800 To: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: RE: T20 Display features? In-Reply-To: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1FB3@exch1.smh.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 05:18 PM 11/4/2000 -0500, you wrote: > I think IBM is bundling the OSD functions as a separate file now. It's no >longer in the latest Thinkpad configuration files. YOu can d/l it off the >IBM web site. I'm looking at the Device Driver Matrix right now, and I don't see anything that resembles that. Perhaps you can be more specific, if you know more? Thanks! >On my A20 with Windows 2000, I right-click on the desktop, then click >properties. On the Display properties dialog, click the "Settings" tab, >then click the "advanced" button. > > >From there, you should have an "On Screen Display" tab. That tab >contains a check box that lets you enable or disable the On-screen >display. > >Hope this helps! > >Greg > >-----Original Message----- >From: Randal Whittle [ mailto:rwhittle@usa.net >] >Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:21 AM >To: TP List >Subject: T20 Display features? > > >Hello all, > > Those of you familiar with the on-screen display features of >newer >thinkpads...perhaps you can help me. You know--the on-screen things >that >show the volume level when you change it, or the brightness of the >screen, >or even the little keyboard light. > > They're not there anymore! I don't know what happened to them. >Which >driver/feature needs to be installed to get them back? I didn't have >any >luck with installing the video drivers again. > > For that matter, Win2K doesn't want to shut down all the way for >me >anymore (or suspend properly). This has all happened rather recently. > > I've tried updating new drivers, new BIOS, etc. but nothing >seems to fix it. > >Help? From cph Sat Nov 4 17:52:36 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA01595 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:52:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21797; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:49:28 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21596; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:49:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21581; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:49:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (4.21.209.242 -> exch1.smh.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:49:26 -0500 Received: by exch1.smh.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:49:08 -0500 Message-ID: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1FB4@exch1.smh.com> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: "'Randal Whittle '" , "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" , "'TP List '" Subject: RE: T20 Display features? Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:49:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Randy, The file is called "onscrnkx.exe" and it's 802kb in size. If you go to support and input your machine's type, you should find it. IBM posted it 10.20.2000. Below is a cut and past of the readme.txt. Neil IBM ThinkPad October 18, 2000 On Screen Display for Windows 95/98/Me/NT 4.0/2000 Version 2.24i ====================================================================== ********************************************************************** WARNING THIS DRIVER IS ONLY ALLOWED TO USE WITH THE MACHINES IN THE SUPPORTED LIST IN THIS PAGE. IT IS STRICTLY RESTRICTED TO USE WITH THE OTHER MACHINES. ********************************************************************** What This Package Does ---------------------- This package provides On Screen Display program for Windows 95/98/Me/NT 4.0/2000 users. The program displays the results of using the ThinkPad function keys on the desktop screen. This program also provides some enhancements of the ThinkPad function keys. For example, whenever the system speaker volume is changed, this program displays volume indicator on the desktop screen. Previously, the On Screen Display program was installed during the installation of the ThinkPad Configuration Utility. Starting with the latest versions of the ThinkPad Configuration Utility programs, the On Screen Dislay program must be installed with it's own setup program. The latest version of the On Screen Display program, version 2.24i, is backward compatible with 2 previous versions of the ThinkPad Configuration Utilities. To determine the On Screen Display version that is currently installed, refer to the "Determining which version is installed" section. The following ThinkPad computers are supported: - ThinkPad 240Z - ThinkPad 570, 570E - ThinkPad 600, 600E, 600X - ThinkPad A20m, A20p, T20 - ThinkPad A21m, A21p, A21e, T21 - ThinkPad X20 -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle To: Dr. Cornelius Halvey; TP List Sent: 11/4/00 5:35 PM Subject: RE: T20 Display features? At 05:18 PM 11/4/2000 -0500, you wrote: > I think IBM is bundling the OSD functions as a separate file now. It's no >longer in the latest Thinkpad configuration files. YOu can d/l it off the >IBM web site. I'm looking at the Device Driver Matrix right now, and I don't see anything that resembles that. Perhaps you can be more specific, if you know more? Thanks! >On my A20 with Windows 2000, I right-click on the desktop, then click >properties. On the Display properties dialog, click the "Settings" tab, >then click the "advanced" button. > > >From there, you should have an "On Screen Display" tab. That tab >contains a check box that lets you enable or disable the On-screen >display. > >Hope this helps! > >Greg > >-----Original Message----- >From: Randal Whittle [ mailto:rwhittle@usa.net >] >Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:21 AM >To: TP List >Subject: T20 Display features? > > >Hello all, > > Those of you familiar with the on-screen display features of >newer >thinkpads...perhaps you can help me. You know--the on-screen things >that >show the volume level when you change it, or the brightness of the >screen, >or even the little keyboard light. > > They're not there anymore! I don't know what happened to them. >Which >driver/feature needs to be installed to get them back? I didn't have >any >luck with installing the video drivers again. > > For that matter, Win2K doesn't want to shut down all the way for >me >anymore (or suspend properly). This has all happened rather recently. > > I've tried updating new drivers, new BIOS, etc. but nothing >seems to fix it. > >Help? From cph Sat Nov 4 18:22:53 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA01677 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:22:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24359; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:19:01 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23905; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:18:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:18:57 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id SAA07040 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:18:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19418; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:18:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (4.21.209.242 -> exch1.smh.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:18:48 -0500 Received: by exch1.smh.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:18:27 -0500 Message-ID: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1FB3@exch1.smh.com> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: "'Greg Langham '" , "''Randal Whittle' '" , "'TP List '" Subject: RE: T20 Display features? Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:18:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: I think IBM is bundling the OSD functions as a separate file now. It's no longer in the latest Thinkpad configuration files. YOu can d/l it off the IBM web site. Neil -----Original Message----- From: Greg Langham To: 'Randal Whittle'; TP List Sent: 11/4/00 11:29 AM Subject: RE: T20 Display features? Randal, On my A20 with Windows 2000, I right-click on the desktop, then click properties. On the Display properties dialog, click the "Settings" tab, then click the "advanced" button. From there, you should have an "On Screen Display" tab. That tab contains a check box that lets you enable or disable the On-screen display. Hope this helps! Greg -----Original Message----- From: Randal Whittle [ mailto:rwhittle@usa.net ] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:21 AM To: TP List Subject: T20 Display features? Hello all, Those of you familiar with the on-screen display features of newer thinkpads...perhaps you can help me. You know--the on-screen things that show the volume level when you change it, or the brightness of the screen, or even the little keyboard light. They're not there anymore! I don't know what happened to them. Which driver/feature needs to be installed to get them back? I didn't have any luck with installing the video drivers again. For that matter, Win2K doesn't want to shut down all the way for me anymore (or suspend properly). This has all happened rather recently. I've tried updating new drivers, new BIOS, etc. but nothing seems to fix it. Help? From cph Sat Nov 4 18:50:44 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA01804 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:50:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26815; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:49:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:47:28 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26553; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:47:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26536; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:47:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (207.155.198.79 -> darius.concentric.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:47:21 -0500 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id SAA19429; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:47:19 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from rjwt20 (w067.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.67]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id SAA19471; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:47:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001104154504.028da968@pop3.iceka.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka.com/pop3.iceka.com@pop3.iceka.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 15:46:56 -0800 To: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: RE: T20 Display features? In-Reply-To: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1FB4@exch1.smh.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 05:49 PM 11/4/2000 -0500, you wrote: >The file is called "onscrnkx.exe" and it's 802kb in size. If you go to >support and input your machine's type, you should find it. IBM posted it >10.20.2000. Well, well, well...THANK YOU! This item is *not* in the Device Driver Matrix! If you don't know what to look for--or to search for it--you wouldn't see it at all. Thank you yet again! Now does anyone have any idea why my T20 (running Win2K) suddenly stopped shutting down all the way or suspending properly? :-) From cph Sat Nov 4 19:00:00 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA01854 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:00:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27820; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:55:21 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27537; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:55:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtppop2pub.verizon.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27463; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:54:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtppop2pub.verizon.net (206.46.170.21 -> smtppop2pub.gte.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:54:57 -0500 Received: from evrtwa1-ar5-245-061.dsl.gtei.net (evrtwa1-ar5-245-061.dsl.gtei.net [4.35.245.61]) by smtppop2pub.verizon.net with SMTP for ; id RAA45553057 Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:53:22 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200011042353.RAA45553057@smtppop2pub.verizon.net> From: "LightSide/ Click" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 16:06:54 +0000 Reply-To: "LightSide/ Click" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Flickering LCD List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 04 Nov 2000 13:43:00 -0500, STeve Andre' wrote: I have flickering on my 365XD but only when on battery. For example, fire up MS Word and keep on AC. Nothing. Unplug it to let it run on battery and I'll get some occasional flicker. Which on a active matrix screen, that just should not be. When I was at my internship one tech said it might be a power inverter. But from what I see on this list, I'm not sure it's worth sending back to easyserve or not. I don't have your specs, but are both of you using active matrix machines or the HPA screens? I don't know off the top of my head (but I bet Bill knows. He knows everything!). >Interestingly, I am in the same boat as you. I'm writing this on a 1451i, >which >had its screen replaced more than a year ago for the pink-screen problem, and >just lately I've been noticing some flickering. > >I think it's related to screen brightness. If I take the brightness all >the way >down I don't think I get much flickering at all, if any. Also, it seems to >come >and go. > >At this point I'm not sure what the problem is, but I more suspect the power >supply for the backlight display, if in fact my turning the brightness down >does >really help stop it. If it is a power supply problem, rest assured that >we'll both >have dead screens eventually. (sigh) > >I think this is going to be one of the longer term waeknesses in the i Series >units, display flicker. My 1480i seems to have avoided this, so hopefully it >doesn't affect all units. > >STeve Andre' > >At 12:34 PM 11/4/00 -0600, Chuck S. wrote: >>My i1723 TP LCD occasionally flickers. I had this problem once before, but >>it went away when the screen was replaced by Easy-serve for an entirely >>different reason. A year later, it's back. It seems to have coincided with >>using a new battery, although I use an AC adapter almost exclusively. Or, >>could it be related to the change in weather (temperature and humidity). >>I'll probably send it to Easy-serve again if it gets worse, but I'm >>wondering if just reseating the LCD connector might solve the problem. Is >>this something I can do myself? Any other ideas? >> >>Thanks, >>Chuck > From cph Sat Nov 4 19:25:19 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA02003 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:25:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00593; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:20:16 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00238; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot25.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00222; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot25.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.45 -> pilot25.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:20:14 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (pm455-06.dialip.mich.net [198.110.21.16]) by pilot25.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eA50K1x31872 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:20:03 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001104191805.01f79080@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 19:20:46 -0500 To: From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Flickering LCD In-Reply-To: <200011042353.RAA45553057@smtppop2pub.verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: My 1451i and 1480i are TFT displays. If your screen flickers on battery power but not AC, I would suspect a power inverter of some sort. I'm afraid my problem is farther into the display itself, which is bad since that means I'm more likely looking at replacing the power supply or the back light itself. Ah well. --STeve Andre' At 04:06 PM 11/4/00 +0000, LightSide/ Click wrote: >On Sat, 04 Nov 2000 13:43:00 -0500, STeve Andre' wrote: > >I have flickering on my 365XD but only when on battery. For example, fire >up MS Word >and keep on AC. Nothing. Unplug it to let it run on battery and I'll get >some occasional flicker. >Which on a active matrix screen, that just should not be. > >When I was at my internship one tech said it might be a power inverter. >But from what I see on >this list, I'm not sure it's worth sending back to easyserve or not. > >I don't have your specs, but are both of you using active matrix machines >or the HPA screens? I don't know >off the top of my head (but I bet Bill knows. He knows everything!). > > >Interestingly, I am in the same boat as you. I'm writing this on a 1451i, > >which > >had its screen replaced more than a year ago for the pink-screen > problem, and > >just lately I've been noticing some flickering. > > > >I think it's related to screen brightness. If I take the brightness all > >the way > >down I don't think I get much flickering at all, if any. Also, it seems to > >come > >and go. > > > >At this point I'm not sure what the problem is, but I more suspect the power > >supply for the backlight display, if in fact my turning the brightness down > >does > >really help stop it. If it is a power supply problem, rest assured that > >we'll both > >have dead screens eventually. (sigh) > > > >I think this is going to be one of the longer term waeknesses in the i > Series > >units, display flicker. My 1480i seems to have avoided this, so > hopefully it > >doesn't affect all units. > > > >STeve Andre' > > > >At 12:34 PM 11/4/00 -0600, Chuck S. wrote: > >>My i1723 TP LCD occasionally flickers. I had this problem once before, but > >>it went away when the screen was replaced by Easy-serve for an entirely > >>different reason. A year later, it's back. It seems to have coincided > with > >>using a new battery, although I use an AC adapter almost exclusively. Or, > >>could it be related to the change in weather (temperature and humidity). > >>I'll probably send it to Easy-serve again if it gets worse, but I'm > >>wondering if just reseating the LCD connector might solve the problem. Is > >>this something I can do myself? Any other ideas? > >> > >>Thanks, > >>Chuck > > From cph Sat Nov 4 19:45:28 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA02099 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:45:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02376; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:43:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:42:01 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02107; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02094; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:41:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:41:58 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA09276 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 14:41:39 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001301c046c1$22041820$cc62183f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: [TPall] Superdisk bootable on Thinkpads? Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 14:41:24 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Compgeeks is selling a pcmcia external LS-120 superdisk for $60. Anyone know if these are bootable on thinkpad subnotes? If so, this would be a great replacement for external floppies on the TP560/701/240/etc. I know we've discussed the LS-120 drives here before, as I recall the internals are bootable, the printer port models are not, but I don't recall if anyone had tried with the pcmcia version. - David R. From cph Sun Nov 5 03:11:01 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id DAA04393 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:11:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27213; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:09:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:05:35 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26653; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:05:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26640; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:05:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (192.160.127.90 -> Kitten2.mcs.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:05:33 -0500 Received: from Atreyu.the-strategis (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA25210 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 02:05:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from heiby@falkor.chi.il.us) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 02:05:16 -0600 From: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Personal Reply-To: "Ronald W. Heiby" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1253223792.20001105020516@falkor.chi.il.us> To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TPall] Superdisk bootable on Thinkpads? In-reply-To: <001301c046c1$22041820$cc62183f@math.hawaii.edu> References: <001301c046c1$22041820$cc62183f@math.hawaii.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, November 04, 2000, 6:41:24 PM, David wrote: > Compgeeks is selling a pcmcia external LS-120 superdisk for $60. > Anyone know if these are bootable on thinkpad subnotes? I am pretty sure that an OS has to be loaded, before the ThinkPad knows how to do much of anything with a PCMCIA device. I'd be less surprised if it could be convinced to boot off a PCMCIA memory card or HD card, but would want to hear exactly what and how it was done. Ron. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 Comment: Digital signature verifies authorship and unaltered content. iQA/AwUBOgUUuW8pw+2/9pUJEQKIFQCgqkxkg1ecjvqsjzklLd/Hc8eHoPQAn3ux +iltqoZ2fRJtMEN+rCPdwG9D =qWn1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cph Sun Nov 5 03:48:31 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id DAA04484 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:48:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29226; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:45:29 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29063; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:45:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29006; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:45:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:45:26 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA10056; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 22:44:46 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001101c04704$a4f90b80$de62183f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Ronald W. Heiby" , References: <001301c046c1$22041820$cc62183f@math.hawaii.edu> <1253223792.20001105020516@falkor.chi.il.us> Subject: Re: [TPall] Superdisk bootable on Thinkpads? Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 22:44:29 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > I am pretty sure that an OS has to be loaded, before the ThinkPad > knows how to do much of anything with a PCMCIA device. I'd be less > surprised if it could be convinced to boot off a PCMCIA memory card or > HD card, but would want to hear exactly what and how it was done. In the bios on the 560 (also others) there is an option for booting off PCMCIA. While I've never done it myself, others on this list have booted from PCMCIA hard drives. I don't see any intrinsic reason why a PCMCIA floppy should be any different in principle. I should add, however, that like Ron I also don't understand how this can possibly actually work without socket services, or at least a point enabler, loaded first. - David R. From cph Sun Nov 5 11:12:58 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA16651 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:12:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04639; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:09:17 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04333; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:09:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtei1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04319; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtei1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.159 -> gtei1.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:09:16 -0500 Received: from tp1480 (adsl-141-152-140-50.bellatlantic.net [141.152.140.50]) by gtei1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA24544 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:08:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000b01c04742$b1a13680$6401a8c0@tp1480> From: "Jim Biggerstaff" To: "ThinkPad-L" Subject: Anyone Upgrade HD in i1480? Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:08:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Hello All: I'd like to upgrade the 6.4GB HD in my i1480 (2621-480), probably to a 18GB drive. I've seen mentions "here and there" of those who have upgraded their drives , and would like to hear any tips that might help. If anyone can recommend a specific drive that would be a huge help. Thanks, jim From cph Sun Nov 5 12:21:41 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA17185 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:21:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11965; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:20:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:18:22 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11548; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:18:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.internal (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11517; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:18:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.internal (209.166.154.244 -> isdn244.vocollect.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:18:14 -0500 Received: from brianb (brianb.internal [172.31.6.12]) by mail.internal (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00762; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:18:10 -0500 From: "Brian Bender" To: Randal Whittle , Thinkpad List Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:17:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: T20 Display features? Message-ID: <3A054FEE.14943.95395BD@localhost> Priority: normal References: In-reply-to: <4.2.0.58.20001104091120.0123e0d0@pop3.iceka.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) List-Unsubscribe: Hi guys, The OSD stuff isn't part of the display driver, iirc, it's part of the "Thinkpad Utilities". That package also installs some of the TP- specific things like extra power management profiles, hibernation support, etc. (which may be affecting your shutdown/standby issues). hth, - Brian Bender TP600: PII-300, 10GB HDD, 224MB RAM Dual-booting NT5 and Slackware 7 Linux On 4 Nov 2000, at 9:14, Randal Whittle wrote: > At 10:29 AM 11/4/2000 -0600, you wrote: > >On my A20 with Windows 2000, I right-click on the desktop, then click > >properties. On the Display properties dialog, click the "Settings" tab, > >then click the "advanced" button. > > > > From there, you should have an "On Screen Display" tab. That tab contains > > a check box that lets you enable or disable the On-screen display. > > Thank you Greg...but unfortunately, for whatever reason, I *don't* > have that "On Screen Display" Tab! > > I know I used to have it. But not anymore. > > I've tried re-installing (even a complete uninstall) the Video > drivers, but no luck. > > Any other ideas? > > (Or for that matter, if anyone knows how to solve the > shutdown/standby problem, I'd very much appreciate it. :-) > > - Randy > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@usa.net] > >Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:21 AM > >To: TP List > >Subject: T20 Display features? > > > >Hello all, > > > > Those of you familiar with the on-screen display features of newer > >thinkpads...perhaps you can help me. You know--the on-screen things that > >show the volume level when you change it, or the brightness of the screen, > >or even the little keyboard light. > > > > They're not there anymore! I don't know what happened to > > them. Which > >driver/feature needs to be installed to get them back? I didn't have any > >luck with installing the video drivers again. > > > > For that matter, Win2K doesn't want to shut down all the way for me > >anymore (or suspend properly). This has all happened rather recently. > > > > I've tried updating new drivers, new BIOS, etc. but nothing seems > > to fix it. > > > >Help? > > From cph Sun Nov 5 14:13:01 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA17705 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 14:13:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22803; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 14:12:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 14:09:06 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22346; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 14:09:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot11.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22333; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 14:09:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot11.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.31 -> pilot11.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 14:09:04 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (pm454-45.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.247]) by pilot11.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eA5J8xN48324 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 14:09:00 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001105140146.01fabc70@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 14:09:59 -0500 To: "ThinkPad-L" From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Anyone Upgrade HD in i1480? In-Reply-To: <000b01c04742$b1a13680$6401a8c0@tp1480> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I have an i1480 with a 6G disk as well. I once asked IBM about what I could stuff into it size wise and they said anything up to an 18G disk. It's really a bios limitation as far as I understand it. There should be nothing unusual about it. Any 2.5 inch drive should work. Getting the latest bios update for it (it came out about 3 months ago, or so) should let you upgrade to a 20G disk. I've been waiting for disk prices to fall a bit and my usage to seriously be cramped before making the jump. Bill Morrow noted that the 18G Toshiba disks shut off in a more intelligent manner, so thats probably what I'll get, over the IBM disks. From what I've seen in all the laptops I maintain, IBM and Toshiba are the leaders in disk creation, with IBM always ahead in terms of size, but Toshiba being right up there with them in terms of quality. Others make laptop disks as well, but I haven't had much experience with them. The 18G Toshiba is model MK1814GAV; the 20G is MK1026GAP. I forget the IBM numbers but going to any place that sells disks will tell you. --STeve Andre' At 11:08 AM 11/5/00 -0500, Jim Biggerstaff wrote: >Hello All: > >I'd like to upgrade the 6.4GB HD in my i1480 (2621-480), probably to a 18GB >drive. I've seen mentions "here and there" of those who have upgraded their >drives , and would like to hear any tips that might help. If anyone can >recommend a specific drive that would be a huge help. > >Thanks, > >jim From cph Sun Nov 5 16:05:56 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA18476 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:05:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05500; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:03:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:57:36 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04294; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9506.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04277; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:57:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9506.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.129.20 -> web9506.mail.yahoo.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:57:28 -0500 Message-ID: <20001105205727.89729.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.221.61.56] by web9506.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 05 Nov 2000 12:57:27 PST Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:57:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: Re: Flickering LCD To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: My TP flickers while on battery power and my Dell Latitude does too. I always thought it was normal. If I adjust the brightness up or down a step it usually stops. --- STeve Andre' wrote: > My 1451i and 1480i are TFT displays. > > If your screen flickers on battery power but not AC, > I would suspect a > power inverter > of some sort. I'm afraid my problem is farther into > the display itself, > which is bad > since that means I'm more likely looking at > replacing the power supply or > the back > light itself. Ah well. > > --STeve Andre' ===== Sprint Broadband Direct Sucks, they should call it Sprint Narrowband! That is, when it's not DOWN! My old phone modem was faster! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ From cph Sun Nov 5 16:23:13 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA18645 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:23:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07975; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:21:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:15:59 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07282; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:15:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot19.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07269; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:15:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot19.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.39 -> pilot19.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:15:57 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (pm454-45.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.247]) by pilot19.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eA5LFqO14686 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:15:53 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001105161440.020373b0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 16:16:52 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Flickering LCD In-Reply-To: <20001105205727.89729.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Interesting. That says to me that the power supply isn't consistent with its output voltage, and adjusting it stops the jitters for a while but they come back after a bit. That is not what should be happening, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that many laptop makers use a similar power supply or inverter which has this problem inheriently, owing to poor design. *sigh* --STeve Andre' At 12:57 PM 11/5/00 -0800, Steve C. wrote: >My TP flickers while on battery power and my Dell >Latitude does too. I always thought it was normal. >If I adjust the brightness up or down a step it >usually stops. > >--- STeve Andre' wrote: > > My 1451i and 1480i are TFT displays. > > > > If your screen flickers on battery power but not AC, > > I would suspect a > > power inverter > > of some sort. I'm afraid my problem is farther into > > the display itself, > > which is bad > > since that means I'm more likely looking at > > replacing the power supply or > > the back > > light itself. Ah well. > > > > --STeve Andre' > > >===== >Sprint Broadband Direct Sucks, they should call it Sprint Narrowband! That >is, when it's not DOWN! My old phone modem was faster! > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. >http://shopping.yahoo.com/ From cph Sun Nov 5 19:50:56 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA19695 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:50:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27193; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:49:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:39:30 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26092; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26066; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:39:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (24.131.1.56 -> demai05.mw.mediaone.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:39:24 -0500 Received: from gptp600 (nic-30-c26-135.mw.mediaone.net [24.30.26.135]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA11099 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:39:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <005501c04789$d9fcf820$0200a8c0@gptp600> From: "gp" To: Subject: Floppy drive for A21M Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:38:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 List-Unsubscribe: I just bought an A21M (2628F1U) and now realize after looking at the IBM support page it appears that it doesn't come with a floppy drive for the UltraBay 2000, or an external setup as on the TP600. Now what! How would I update the BIOS, etc. Can I use any USB floppy drive and would it appear as the A drive? I see IBM sells one for about $100. (p/n 05K9276) but on the A21 support page it makes mention only of the SuperDisk drive. Thanks, From cph Sun Nov 5 20:00:10 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA20012 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:00:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28556; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:59:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:54:45 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27875; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:54:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27854; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:54:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (208.147.154.56 -> fly.HiWAAY.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:54:42 -0500 Received: from dwreid (tnt10-216-180-65-254.dialup.hiwaay.net [216.180.65.254]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id eA60sU701960 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:54:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001f01c0478c$238535a0$fe41b4d8@dwreid> From: "David Reid" To: "ThinkPad-L" Subject: TP-L Hard drive adapters for 770's going price? Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:54:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Greetings L, Could someone procided the goin' rate for second harddrive adapters for the 770's? Thanks, Dave From cph Sun Nov 5 20:08:55 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA20065 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:08:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00433; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:07:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:03:32 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29653; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29640; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (208.147.154.56 -> fly.HiWAAY.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:03:27 -0500 Received: from dwreid (tnt10-216-180-65-254.dialup.hiwaay.net [216.180.65.254]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id eA613N713429 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:03:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002901c0478d$6179b1a0$fe41b4d8@dwreid> From: "David Reid" To: "ThinkPad-L" References: <001f01c0478c$238535a0$fe41b4d8@dwreid> Subject: Re: TP-L Hard drive adapters for 770's going price? OOPS! Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:03:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: procided????? don't ask me! That should have said, Could someone "provide" . . . etc ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Reid" To: "ThinkPad-L" Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 6:54 PM Subject: TP-L Hard drive adapters for 770's going price? > Greetings L, > > Could someone procided the goin' rate for second harddrive adapters for the > 770's? > > Thanks, > Dave > From cph Sun Nov 5 20:33:15 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA20195 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:33:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03002; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:31:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:27:08 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02298; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:27:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02284; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:27:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.50 -> mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:27:06 -0500 Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.253]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001106012703.JBIF18967.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@dts-jl> for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:27:03 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20001105202948.01cb3770@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 20:29:48 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Floppy drive for A21M In-Reply-To: <005501c04789$d9fcf820$0200a8c0@gptp600> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 07:38 PM 11/05/2000 -0500, gp wrote: >I just bought an A21M (2628F1U) and now realize after looking at the IBM >support page it appears that it doesn't come with a floppy drive for the >UltraBay 2000, or an external setup as on the TP600. Now what! How would I >update the BIOS, etc. Can I use any USB floppy drive and would it appear as >the A drive? I see IBM sells one for about $100. (p/n 05K9276) but on the >A21 support page it makes mention only of the SuperDisk drive. > Unless I'm badly mistaken, the A21m is a three-spindle device. From cph Sun Nov 5 21:16:30 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA20423 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:16:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07029; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:11:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:05:50 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06321; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:05:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06308; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net (129.250.36.43 -> dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:05:47 -0500 Received: from [129.250.38.61] (helo=dfw-mmp1.email.verio.net) by dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #7) id 13sbfF-0001OW-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 06 Nov 2000 02:05:37 +0000 Received: from [206.184.201.148] (helo=fatcat.sandy.com) by dfw-mmp1.email.verio.net with esmtp id 13sbfF-0002NB-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 06 Nov 2000 02:05:37 +0000 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20001105175204.02cbadb0@pop.ncal.verio.com> X-Sender: sandy1@pop.ncal.verio.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 18:05:35 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Sandy Meltzer Subject: FS: IBM SelectaDock III - Brand New!! CHEAP!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: FS: IBM SelectaDock III Docking station for the IBM ThinkPad 600, 760, 765, 770 series Here is your opportunity to buy a brand-new IBM SelectaDock III for your ThinkPad. I purchased it from a fellow who purchased it brand-new and then never used it. It's still in its original factory box...packed in its original plastic bag and includes the original manual, software in sealed envelope, and power cord. Asking $300 or best offer plus shipping. You can confirm current mail order pricing and features at: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=097050 or http://www2.warehouse.com/product.asp?pf%5Fid=EX8199&cat=pc Send email to sandy@sandy.com or call me at 408-257-2800 Thanks, Sandy From cph Sun Nov 5 21:36:14 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA20524 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:36:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10452; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:33:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:28:26 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09248; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:28:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09229; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:28:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (4.21.209.242 -> exch1.smh.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:28:24 -0500 Received: by exch1.smh.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:28:04 -0500 Message-ID: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1FB7@exch1.smh.com> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu '" Subject: RE: IBM SelectaDock III - Brand New!! CHEAP!! Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:28:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Sounds a "little" high for surplus, obsolete merchandise. New or not. YMMV Neil -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Meltzer To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sent: 11/5/00 9:05 PM Subject: FS: IBM SelectaDock III - Brand New!! CHEAP!! FS: IBM SelectaDock III Docking station for the IBM ThinkPad 600, 760, 765, 770 series Here is your opportunity to buy a brand-new IBM SelectaDock III for your ThinkPad. I purchased it from a fellow who purchased it brand-new and then never used it. It's still in its original factory box...packed in its original plastic bag and includes the original manual, software in sealed envelope, and power cord. Asking $300 or best offer plus shipping. You can confirm current mail order pricing and features at: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=097050 or http://www2.warehouse.com/product.asp?pf%5Fid=EX8199&cat=pc Send email to sandy@sandy.com or call me at 408-257-2800 Thanks, Sandy From cph Sun Nov 5 21:55:50 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA20638 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:55:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13929; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:53:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:48:38 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13188; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from passcal.passcal.nmt.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13120; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from passcal.passcal.nmt.edu (129.138.26.245 -> passcal.passcal.nmt.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:48:16 -0500 Received: from uniblab (dialin2.passcal.nmt.edu [129.138.26.202]) by passcal.passcal.nmt.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA21534 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:48:08 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <005901c0479b$ff082240$ca1a8a81@passcal.nmt.edu> From: "Bob Greschke" To: References: <000c01c04432$257bd560$201a8a81@passcal.nmt.edu> <5.0.0.25.0.20001102235536.01f9d130@pilot.msu.edu> Subject: Re: Better CD-ROM for 760C Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:48:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Thanks for all the help with the 760C and loading new software. It turns out that it is a Dock II (from the part number that one of you sent), and that it is just waiting for an SCSI CD to be hooked up. We'll probably order one of those. However, when I wrote the original message I didn't realize that it was hooked up to the net. It does all of its FedEx and UPS business over a PCMCIA modem in the dock, and "everyone" thought that that was its only connection to the outside world. As it turns out we were able to just share the CD drive on another Windows machine and install the software using that. Luckily, the 760C was able to "see the network" and the other machine's drive in Network Neighborhood, because the other machine couldn't see the network at all (it's a UNIX place, and Windows support is...hmmmm :-). Thanks! Bob 600X/TRGpro > >We have a 760C at work that sits on top of a GIGANTIC (prehistoric? > >:-) docking port. It's only function in life is to run FedEx and UPS > >shipping software (I cry evey time I walk by). We need to install > >some updated software, but there's no CD drive in the system. Any > >suggestions on a cheap, low-performance, PCMCIA drive for the system? > >I figure a PCMCIA drive would be good, then we can use it on other > >laptops we have. The 760C is running WIn95. > > > >Thanks! > > > >Bob From cph Sun Nov 5 23:46:47 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA21258 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:46:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01347; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:44:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:38:43 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00647; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00634; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.241 -> mta5.snfc21.pbi.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:38:41 -0500 Received: from postoffice.pacbell.net ([216.101.187.70]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G3L00E3C5BHRU@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:18:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 20:18:23 -0800 From: Gerry Subject: Out of the box Selectadock III FS too! To: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu '" Reply-to: gerka@pacbell.net Message-id: <3A06310F.A2940848@postoffice.pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-PBI-NC404 (Win95; U) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3D623D2A1F2B1B1E9B0FE3A7" X-Accept-Language: en References: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A1FB7@exch1.smh.com> List-Unsubscribe: --------------3D623D2A1F2B1B1E9B0FE3A7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a selectadock II that I bought a couple of months back but never got to use. I have the shipping box, manual, cds, etc.. - all for $ 150 you pay shipping. Would prefer a Bay Area (SF) buyer but would not mind shipping. Gerry "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" wrote: > Sounds a "little" high for surplus, obsolete merchandise. New or not. > > YMMV > > Neil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandy Meltzer > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Sent: 11/5/00 9:05 PM > Subject: FS: IBM SelectaDock III - Brand New!! CHEAP!! > > FS: IBM SelectaDock III > Docking station for the IBM ThinkPad 600, 760, 765, 770 series > > Here is your opportunity to buy a brand-new IBM SelectaDock III for your > > ThinkPad. I purchased it from a fellow who purchased it brand-new and > then > never used it. It's still in its original factory box...packed in its > original plastic bag and includes the original manual, software in > sealed > envelope, and power cord. > > Asking $300 or best offer plus shipping. > > You can confirm current mail order pricing and features at: > http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=097050 > or > http://www2.warehouse.com/product.asp?pf%5Fid=EX8199&cat=pc > > Send email to sandy@sandy.com > or call me at 408-257-2800 > > Thanks, Sandy --------------3D623D2A1F2B1B1E9B0FE3A7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a selectadock II that I bought a couple of months back but never got to use.
I have the shipping box, manual, cds, etc.. - all for $ 150 you pay shipping. Would prefer a Bay Area (SF) buyer but would not mind shipping.

Gerry

"Dr. Cornelius Halvey" wrote:

 Sounds a "little" high for surplus, obsolete merchandise. New or not.

YMMV

Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy Meltzer
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Sent: 11/5/00 9:05 PM
Subject: FS: IBM SelectaDock III - Brand New!! CHEAP!!

FS: IBM SelectaDock III
Docking station for the IBM ThinkPad 600, 760, 765, 770 series

Here is your opportunity to buy a brand-new IBM SelectaDock III for your

ThinkPad.  I purchased it from a fellow who purchased it brand-new and
then
never used it.  It's still in its original factory box...packed in its
original plastic bag and includes the original manual, software in
sealed
envelope, and power cord.

Asking $300 or best offer plus shipping.

You can confirm current mail order pricing and features at:
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=097050
or
http://www2.warehouse.com/product.asp?pf%5Fid=EX8199&cat=pc

Send email to sandy@sandy.com
or call me at 408-257-2800

Thanks, Sandy

--------------3D623D2A1F2B1B1E9B0FE3A7-- From cph Sun Nov 5 23:51:23 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA21308 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:51:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02602; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:49:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:45:09 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01523; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:45:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0n.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01410; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from www0n.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.43 -> www0n.netaddress.usa.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:44:49 -0500 Received: (qmail 29849 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Nov 2000 04:44:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20001106044444.29848.qmail@www0n.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.43 by www0n for [24.163.172.50] via web-mailer(34WB1.4.03) on Mon Nov 6 04:44:44 GMT 2000 Date: 5 Nov 00 22:44:44 CST From: Rob Bell To: "David Reid" Subject: Re: TP-L Hard drive adapters for 770s going price? CC: ThinkPad Mailing List X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (34WB1.4.03) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id XAA21309 Don't know what the going rate is, but if you find out, let me know. I've got a 770 2nd HD adapter that I'd consider selling. My 770 was replaced by a 600X recently (from my company), and the HD adapter was my own. It is in perfect condition and works fine. Rob rbell1@netscape.net "David Reid" wrote: > procided????? don't ask me! > > That should have said, > > Could someone "provide" . . . etc > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Reid" > To: "ThinkPad-L" > Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 6:54 PM > Subject: TP-L Hard drive adapters for 770's going price? > > > > Greetings L, > > > > Could someone procided the goin' rate for second harddrive adapters for > the > > 770's? > > > > Thanks, > > Dave > > ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail From cph Mon Nov 6 00:54:18 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA21907 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:54:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09869; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:49:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:42:37 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09129; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09107; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:42:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (194.29.192.20 -> netsonic.fi) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:42:31 -0500 Received: from TP560X (letku107.adsl.netsonic.fi [194.29.195.107]) by nalle.netsonic.fi (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id eA65gF701909 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 07:42:18 +0200 Message-Id: <200011060542.eA65gF701909@nalle.netsonic.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 07:42:11 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3A06310F.A2940848@postoffice.pacbell.net> Subject: Re: Out of the box Selectadock III FS too! X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.2 List-Unsubscribe: I'm afraid your price is also too high: "Theteam" has 20 of them in a Dutch auction on eBay at $59 and there's only one bid so far: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=487202598 I bought one from them last Spring - for $225 :-( - and it was brand new out of the box. -Dominique On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 at 08:18 PM you, Gerry , said: >I have a selectadock II that I bought a couple of months back but never >got to use. >I have the shipping box, manual, cds, etc.. - all for $ 150 you pay >shipping. Would prefer a Bay Area (SF) buyer but would not mind shipping. >Gerry >"Dr. Cornelius Halvey" wrote: >> Sounds a "little" high for surplus, obsolete merchandise. New or not. >> >> YMMV >> >> Neil >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sandy Meltzer >> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >> Sent: 11/5/00 9:05 PM >> Subject: FS: IBM SelectaDock III - Brand New!! CHEAP!! >> >> FS: IBM SelectaDock III >> Docking station for the IBM ThinkPad 600, 760, 765, 770 series >> >> Here is your opportunity to buy a brand-new IBM SelectaDock III for your >> >> ThinkPad. I purchased it from a fellow who purchased it brand-new and >> then >> never used it. It's still in its original factory box...packed in its >> original plastic bag and includes the original manual, software in >> sealed >> envelope, and power cord. >> >> Asking $300 or best offer plus shipping. >> >> You can confirm current mail order pricing and features at: >> http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=097050 >> or >> http://www2.warehouse.com/product.asp?pf%5Fid=EX8199&cat=pc >> >> Send email to sandy@sandy.com >> or call me at 408-257-2800 >> >> Thanks, Sandy From cph Mon Nov 6 01:06:42 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA21962 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:06:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11588; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:59:47 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10772; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:59:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10754; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:59:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:59:40 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-335.gate.net [199.227.131.144]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA92300; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:59:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3A0648F8.AD8CB989@gate.net> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 01:00:24 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jane Loyless CC: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Floppy drive for A21M References: <3.0.1.32.20001105202948.01cb3770@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: it IS a 3 spindle device, though the specs don't make that clear.. :-) Jane Loyless wrote: > At 07:38 PM 11/05/2000 -0500, gp wrote: > > >I just bought an A21M (2628F1U) and now realize after looking at the IBM > >support page it appears that it doesn't come with a floppy drive for the > >UltraBay 2000, or an external setup as on the TP600. Now what! How would I > >update the BIOS, etc. Can I use any USB floppy drive and would it appear as > >the A drive? I see IBM sells one for about $100. (p/n 05K9276) but on the > >A21 support page it makes mention only of the SuperDisk drive. > > > > Unless I'm badly mistaken, the A21m is a three-spindle device. -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Mon Nov 6 01:10:14 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA22003 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:10:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12560; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:04:04 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11548; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:04:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11534; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:03:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:04:00 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-335.gate.net [199.227.131.144]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA135306; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:03:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3A0649FC.99FCB8A2@gate.net> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 01:04:44 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Bell CC: David Reid , ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: TP-L Hard drive adapters for 770s going price? References: <20001106044444.29848.qmail@www0n.netaddress.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: 2nd HDD Adapter for the 770 is $70 to $90, new.. there may be sopme closeouts.. i usually keep one or two for customers who want one with a HDD and 770 HDD shell.. Rob Bell wrote: > Don't know what the going rate is, but if you find out, let me know. I've got > a 770 2nd HD adapter that I'd consider selling. My 770 was replaced by a 600X > recently (from my company), and the HD adapter was my own. It is in perfect > condition and works fine. > > Rob > rbell1@netscape.net > > "David Reid" wrote: > > procided????? don't ask me! > > > > That should have said, > > > > Could someone "provide" . . . etc > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Reid" > > To: "ThinkPad-L" > > Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 6:54 PM > > Subject: TP-L Hard drive adapters for 770's going price? > > > > > > > Greetings L, > > > > > > Could someone procided the goin' rate for second harddrive adapters for > > the > > > 770's? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Dave > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Mon Nov 6 01:14:40 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA22029 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:14:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13438; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:12:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:07:50 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12433; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:07:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12416; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:07:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:07:48 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-335.gate.net [199.227.131.144]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA130944; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:07:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3A064AE6.8C6D2A3A@gate.net> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 01:08:38 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "STeve Andre'" CC: ThinkPad-L Subject: Re: Anyone Upgrade HD in i1480? References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001105140146.01fabc70@pilot.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: 18gig drives are old news.. 20gig is more current.. tosh or IBM.. i have a couple of "i" series.. one with the easy to swap HDD (older, about 14 months old) and one with the hard to swap HDD (newer, about 10 months old) i put a 12gig in one of these for a customer in new york.. hard swap, instant recognition of the HDD.. STeve Andre' wrote: > I have an i1480 with a 6G disk as well. I once asked IBM about what I could > stuff into it size wise and they said anything up to an 18G disk. It's > really a > bios limitation as far as I understand it. There should be nothing unusual > about > it. Any 2.5 inch drive should work. Getting the latest bios update for it (it > came out about 3 months ago, or so) should let you upgrade to a 20G disk. > I've been waiting for disk prices to fall a bit and my usage to seriously be > cramped before making the jump. > > Bill Morrow noted that the 18G Toshiba disks shut off in a more intelligent > manner, so thats probably what I'll get, over the IBM disks. From what I've > seen in all the laptops I maintain, IBM and Toshiba are the leaders in disk > creation, with IBM always ahead in terms of size, but Toshiba being right up > there with them in terms of quality. Others make laptop disks as well, but > I haven't had much experience with them. > > The 18G Toshiba is model MK1814GAV; the 20G is MK1026GAP. I forget > the IBM numbers but going to any place that sells disks will tell you. > > --STeve Andre' > > At 11:08 AM 11/5/00 -0500, Jim Biggerstaff wrote: > >Hello All: > > > >I'd like to upgrade the 6.4GB HD in my i1480 (2621-480), probably to a 18GB > >drive. I've seen mentions "here and there" of those who have upgraded their > >drives , and would like to hear any tips that might help. If anyone can > >recommend a specific drive that would be a huge help. > > > >Thanks, > > > >jim -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Mon Nov 6 01:15:28 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA22039 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:15:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13553; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:12:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:08:39 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12642; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:08:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12579; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:08:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (194.29.192.20 -> netsonic.fi) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:08:31 -0500 Received: from TP560X (letku107.adsl.netsonic.fi [194.29.195.107]) by nalle.netsonic.fi (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id eA668N702198 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:08:23 +0200 Message-Id: <200011060608.eA668N702198@nalle.netsonic.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 08:08:19 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3A0648F8.AD8CB989@gate.net> Subject: Re: Floppy drive for A21M X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.2 List-Unsubscribe: Pardon my ignorance, but what is a three-spindle device? Thanks, Dominique On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 at 01:00 AM you, Bill Morrow , said: >it IS a 3 spindle device, though the specs don't make that clear.. :-) From cph Mon Nov 6 01:21:45 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA22078 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:21:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14926; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:19:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:15:46 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13991; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:15:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta4.snfc21.pbi.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13942; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:15:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta4.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.142 -> mta4.snfc21.pbi.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:15:37 -0500 Received: from DANA21P ([64.161.101.99]) by mta4.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0G3L005PYAPQ5H@mta4.snfc21.pbi.net> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 22:15:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 22:14:35 -0800 From: Dan Galender Subject: RE: Floppy drive for A21M In-reply-to: <200011060608.eA668N702198@nalle.netsonic.fi> To: Dominique Pivard , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) List-Unsubscribe: Three spindles: 1. Hard Drive 2. Floppy Drive 3. Drive in the Ultra Bay All internal, and all accessable at the same time. -Dan Galender -----Original Message----- From: Dominique Pivard [mailto:domi@kenavo.fi] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 10:08 PM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Floppy drive for A21M Pardon my ignorance, but what is a three-spindle device? Thanks, Dominique On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 at 01:00 AM you, Bill Morrow , said: >it IS a 3 spindle device, though the specs don't make that clear.. :-) From cph Mon Nov 6 01:23:24 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA22090 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:23:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14743; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:19:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:14:48 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13791; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:14:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot05.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13778; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:14:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot05.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.25 -> pilot05.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:14:46 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (pm454-35.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.237]) by pilot05.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eA66Ee415820 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:14:41 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001106011150.0200da60@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 01:15:05 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Anyone Upgrade HD in i1480? In-Reply-To: <3A064AE6.8C6D2A3A@gate.net> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001105140146.01fabc70@pilot.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_86858013==_.ALT" List-Unsubscribe: --=====================_86858013==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I've been hoping to see a decrease in price on the 18G disks because of the 20G, but they don't seem to be falling very fast. Bill, do you know if the 20G Toshiba disks have the similar power-down advantages that the 18G Toshibas did, over the IBM disks? All in all, do you think that one of the 20G disks is better than the others? --STeve Andre' At 01:08 AM 11/6/00 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >18gig drives are old news.. >20gig is more current.. >tosh or IBM.. >i have a couple of "i" series.. >one with the easy to swap HDD (older, about 14 months old) and one with >the hard to >swap HDD (newer, about 10 months old) >i put a 12gig in one of these for a customer in new york.. >hard swap, instant recognition of the HDD.. > >STeve Andre' wrote: > > > I have an i1480 with a 6G disk as well. I once asked IBM about what I > could > > stuff into it size wise and they said anything up to an 18G disk. It's > > really a > > bios limitation as far as I understand it. There should be nothing unusual > > about > > it. Any 2.5 inch drive should work. Getting the latest bios update > for it (it > > came out about 3 months ago, or so) should let you upgrade to a 20G disk. > > I've been waiting for disk prices to fall a bit and my usage to > seriously be > > cramped before making the jump. > > > > Bill Morrow noted that the 18G Toshiba disks shut off in a more intelligent > > manner, so thats probably what I'll get, over the IBM disks. From what > I've > > seen in all the laptops I maintain, IBM and Toshiba are the leaders in disk > > creation, with IBM always ahead in terms of size, but Toshiba being > right up > > there with them in terms of quality. Others make laptop disks as well, but > > I haven't had much experience with them. > > > > The 18G Toshiba is model MK1814GAV; the 20G is MK1026GAP. I forget > > the IBM numbers but going to any place that sells disks will tell you. > > > > --STeve Andre' > > > > At 11:08 AM 11/5/00 -0500, Jim Biggerstaff wrote: > > >Hello All: > > > > > >I'd like to upgrade the 6.4GB HD in my i1480 (2621-480), probably to a > 18GB > > >drive. I've seen mentions "here and there" of those who have upgraded > their > > >drives , and would like to hear any tips that might help. If anyone can > > >recommend a specific drive that would be a huge help. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >jim > >-- >--- > >Happy trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net >open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? >sic transit gloria --=====================_86858013==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"  I've been hoping to see a decrease in price on the 18G disks because of the
20G, but they don't seem to be falling very fast.

Bill, do you know if the 20G Toshiba disks have the similar power-down advantages
that the 18G Toshibas did, over the IBM disks?   All in all, do you think that one of
the 20G disks is better than the others?

--STeve Andre'

At 01:08 AM 11/6/00 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote:
18gig drives are old news..
20gig is more current..
tosh or IBM..
i have a couple of "i" series..
one with the easy to swap HDD (older, about 14 months old) and one with the hard to
swap HDD (newer, about 10 months old)
i put a 12gig in one of these for a customer in new york..
hard swap, instant recognition of the HDD..

STeve Andre' wrote:

> I have an i1480 with a 6G disk as well.  I once asked IBM about what I could
> stuff into it size wise and they said anything up to an 18G disk.  It's
> really a
> bios limitation as far as I understand it.  There should be nothing unusual
> about
> it.  Any 2.5 inch drive should work.  Getting the latest bios update for it (it
> came out about 3 months ago, or so) should let you upgrade to a 20G disk.
> I've been waiting for disk prices to fall a bit and my usage to seriously be
> cramped before making the jump.
>
> Bill Morrow noted that the 18G Toshiba disks shut off in a more intelligent
> manner, so thats probably what I'll get, over the IBM disks.  From what I've
> seen in all the laptops I maintain, IBM and Toshiba are the leaders in disk
> creation, with IBM always ahead in terms of size, but Toshiba being right up
> there with them in terms of quality.  Others make laptop disks as well, but
> I haven't had much experience with them.
>
> The 18G Toshiba is model MK1814GAV; the 20G is MK1026GAP.  I forget
> the IBM numbers but going to any place that sells disks will tell you.
>
> --STeve Andre'
>
> At 11:08 AM 11/5/00 -0500, Jim Biggerstaff wrote:
> >Hello All:
> >
> >I'd like to upgrade the 6.4GB HD in my i1480 (2621-480), probably to a 18GB
> >drive.  I've seen mentions "here and there" of those who have upgraded their
> >drives , and would like to hear any tips that might help.  If anyone can
> >recommend a specific drive that would be a huge help.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >jim

--
---

Happy trails...

** Bill Morrow **   :-)
WEB page http://thinkpads.com
e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net
open forum:  http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login?
sic transit gloria
--=====================_86858013==_.ALT-- From cph Mon Nov 6 01:35:46 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA22150 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:35:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16395; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:33:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:28:54 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15803; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15770; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:28:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:28:48 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-335.gate.net [199.227.131.144]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA206430 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:28:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3A064FCC.88275F83@gate.net> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 01:29:32 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Is everyone getting more spam now..?? -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Mon Nov 6 01:44:55 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA22193 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:44:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17389; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:43:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:38:46 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16843; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:38:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot16.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16830; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:38:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot16.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.36 -> pilot16.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:38:44 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (pm454-35.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.237]) by pilot16.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eA66ceW47374 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 01:38:41 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001106013557.02012650@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 01:39:29 -0500 To: ThinkPad List From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM In-Reply-To: <3A064FCC.88275F83@gate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Yes, I certainly am, and have adopted a zero-tolerance attitude towards it now. The instant I see that spam has landed in my inbox, I stop whatever I'm doing and look at the headers to figure out where the blasted stuff is coming from, and send mail to root@, abuse@ and postmaster@ of the originating domain. Once now, the people who were being used actually managed to catch the spammer in the act! That was a good feeling. I encourage everyone to do this, to get all ISP's to take this problem more seriously. The really big ISP's seem to, but a lot of others don't. --STeve Andre' At 01:29 AM 11/6/00 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >Is everyone getting more spam now..?? > >-- >--- > >Happy trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net >open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? >sic transit gloria From cph Mon Nov 6 02:08:19 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA22275 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:08:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19558; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:06:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:01:17 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18889; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:01:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18837; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:01:11 -0500 Received: from p3-1ghz (client-151-204-210-23.delval.dialup.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.23]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA28377 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:01:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001106015842.027c6e90@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 02:01:19 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: FS: IBM SelectaDock III - Brand New!! CHEAP!! In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20001105175204.02cbadb0@pop.ncal.verio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: These go for ~$100.00 or less on Ebay all the time. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=484308636 There is a gent there who seems to have an endless supply of them who pops up every month with them @ $75.00/ea in dutch format too. Mark At 06:05 PM 11/5/00 -0800, you wrote: >FS: IBM SelectaDock III >Docking station for the IBM ThinkPad 600, 760, 765, 770 series > >Here is your opportunity to buy a brand-new IBM SelectaDock III for your >ThinkPad. I purchased it from a fellow who purchased it brand-new and >then never used it. It's still in its original factory box...packed in >its original plastic bag and includes the original manual, software in >sealed envelope, and power cord. > >Asking $300 or best offer plus shipping. From cph Mon Nov 6 02:17:58 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA22314 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:17:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20568; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:16:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:11:52 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20040; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:11:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20027; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.50 -> mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:11:50 -0500 Received: from 240.chicago-03-04rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.149.240]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001106071149.MESA18967.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@240.chicago-03-04rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 07:11:49 +0000 From: epbrown01@att.net (Emanuel Brown) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Anyone Upgrade HD in i1480? Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 07:11:52 GMT Reply-To: epbrown01@att.net Message-ID: <3a0b594a.27000947@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001105140146.01fabc70@pilot.msu.edu> <5.0.0.25.0.20001106011150.0200da60@pilot.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001106011150.0200da60@pilot.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id CAA22315 On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 01:15:05 -0500, you wrote: >Bill, do you know if the 20G Toshiba disks have the similar power-down >advantages that the 18G Toshibas did, over the IBM disks? All in all, do you think >that one of the 20G disks is better than the others? Iirc, don't the Toshiba 20GB drives have more cache than IBM? I know they run more quietly, as I had them in my Sony N505VE and IBM 240, respectively. Emanuel (still waiting for that 32GB drive!) "Everybody wants a normal life and a cool car; most people settle for the car." Chris Titus 1983 911 SC http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/91183.jpg From cph Mon Nov 6 02:38:16 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA22412 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:38:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22240; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:36:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:32:20 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21672; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:32:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21659; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.50 -> mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 02:32:19 -0500 Received: from 240.chicago-03-04rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.149.240]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001106073217.MGZG18967.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@240.chicago-03-04rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 07:32:17 +0000 From: epbrown01@att.net (Emanuel Brown) To: "ThinkPad-L" Subject: Re: TP-L Hard drive adapters for 770's going price? Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 07:32:20 GMT Reply-To: epbrown01@att.net Message-ID: <3a0d5d68.28054457@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <001f01c0478c$238535a0$fe41b4d8@dwreid> In-Reply-To: <001f01c0478c$238535a0$fe41b4d8@dwreid> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id CAA22413 On Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:54:25 -0600, you wrote: >Greetings L, > >Could someone procided the goin' rate for second harddrive adapters for the >770's? > $65 plus shipping, brand new, at http://www.solutions4sure.com/product.asp?ProductId=16388&affid=874&adid=874. Weird when you consider I got the one for my 600E there for $30 - I'd think they were comparable. But they had them in stock and delivered promptly - most places that claimed to have them turned out not to (coughbuy.comcough). HTH, Emanuel "Everybody wants a normal life and a cool car; most people settle for the car." Chris Titus 1983 911 SC http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/91183.jpg From cph Mon Nov 6 04:14:17 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id EAA23059 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 04:14:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29629; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 04:12:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 04:07:59 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA28962; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 04:07:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA28938; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 04:07:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011060907.EAA28938@cs.utk.edu> Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.31 -> out1.prserv.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 04:07:55 -0500 Received: from slip202-135-81-245.bg.th.ibm.net ([202.135.81.245]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <20001106090746201050f4doe>; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:07:49 +0000 From: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" To: "STeve Andre'" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:07:43 +0700 Reply-To: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM List-Unsubscribe: You may wish to refer to (which I wrote), for a proven MO to track down spammers. Jeffrey Race From cph Mon Nov 6 07:00:44 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id HAA24125 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 07:00:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12483; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 06:59:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 06:53:13 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA11785; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 06:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA11771; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 06:53:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.62 -> smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 06:53:11 -0500 Received: from 216-164-131-36.s36.tnt2.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.131.36]) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 13skpq-0001f3-00 ; Mon, 06 Nov 2000 06:53:10 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 06:54:05 -0500 From: Donald MacQueen X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45) Personal Reply-To: Donald MacQueen X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <52426311964.20001106065405@erols.com> To: "STeve Andre'" CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re[2]: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM In-reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001106013557.02012650@pilot.msu.edu> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001106013557.02012650@pilot.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: STeve, Monday, November 06, 2000, 1:39:29 AM, you wrote: > Yes, I certainly am, and have adopted a zero-tolerance attitude towards > it now. I used to get about 2 a day - no big deal. But since the summer, it's at least 5 a day and some are in Spanish! So I have started forwarding this crap to abuse@theirdomain.com. Most of the big isps actively pursue these morons, and just yesterday one informed me that they had terminated an account for spamming. It does pay to complain. I also have my mail reader set to drop all badly-addressed mail into a junk folder which makes it easier to deal with. I used to respond to the spammers too, but some are just trolling for valid addresses and this just confirms it. > The instant I see that spam has landed in my inbox, I stop whatever I'm > doing and look at the headers to figure out where the blasted stuff is > coming from, and send mail to root@, abuse@ and postmaster@ of the > originating domain. > Once now, the people who were being used actually managed to catch > the spammer in the act! That was a good feeling. > I encourage everyone to do this, to get all ISP's to take this problem > more seriously. The really big ISP's seem to, but a lot of others don't. > --STeve Andre' > At 01:29 AM 11/6/00 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >>Is everyone getting more spam now..?? >> >>-- >>--- >> >>Happy trails... >> >>** Bill Morrow ** :-) >>WEB page http://thinkpads.com >>e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net >>open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? >>sic transit gloria -- Donald Donald M. MacQueen Registered Smalltalk Bigot, [Esq.] From cph Mon Nov 6 08:42:52 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id IAA24834 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:42:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21363; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:42:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:37:40 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20655; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.cern.ch (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20637; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:37:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.cern.ch (137.138.128.38 -> smtp1.cern.ch) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:37:36 -0500 Received: from rsplus11.cern.ch (rsplus11.cern.ch [137.138.246.85]) by smtp1.cern.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01486 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 14:37:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (alban@localhost) by rsplus11.cern.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA101816 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 14:37:33 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: rsplus11.cern.ch: alban owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 14:37:32 +0100 (MET) From: Alban Kellerbauer X-Sender: alban@rsplus11.cern.ch To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [240X] Cardbus Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I am about to buy a 240X which according to the IBM web site has one PCMCIA slot which is Cardbus enabled. Apparently, the Cardbus functionality is not available under WinNT. There is no word on Win2000. Does anybody know if Cardbus is available under Win2000 on this computer? Thanks, Alban From cph Mon Nov 6 10:04:47 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA25348 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:04:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00898; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:02:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:00:32 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00524; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00508; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:00:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (171.71.163.11 -> sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:00:25 -0500 Received: from mira-sjcm-1.cisco.com (mira-sjcm-1.cisco.com [171.69.2.212]) by sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA18781 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 07:00:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from tricent (rtp-vpn-116.cisco.com [10.82.192.116]) by mira-sjcm-1.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with SMTP id AAS14815; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 07:00:20 -0800 (PST) From: "Tony Rice" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: RE: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:59:16 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001106013557.02012650@pilot.msu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: > The instant I see that spam has landed in my inbox, I stop whatever I'm > doing and look at the headers to figure out where the blasted stuff is > coming from, and send mail to root@, abuse@ and postmaster@ of the > originating domain. Save yourself a little time and use SpamCop (http://spamcop.net) it does the work for you. From cph Mon Nov 6 10:21:04 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA25539 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:21:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03528; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:19:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:18:00 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03204; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:17:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from box3.pyrrhusoft.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03175; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:17:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from box3.pyrrhusoft.com (207.254.7.95 -> ppp7-95.neta.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:17:57 -0500 Received: (from jones@localhost) by box3.pyrrhusoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id IAA06095; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:16:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:16:05 -0700 Message-Id: <200011061516.IAA06095@box3.pyrrhusoft.com> From: David Jones To: Alban.Kellerbauer@cern.ch CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [240X] Cardbus List-Unsubscribe: The PCMCIA slot on the 240 and 240X is a CardBus slot; i.e., it will support both the older 16bit PCMCIA cards and the newer 32bit CardBus style. According to IBM's device driver matrix, support is included with Win2000. I cannot confirm this directly since I currently only have PCMCIA cards which I am running under Win95 (on the 240) and shortly Win98. David Jones From cph Mon Nov 6 10:31:10 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA25627 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:31:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05365; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:30:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:28:20 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04991; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:28:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.cern.ch (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04959; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.cern.ch (137.138.128.38 -> smtp1.cern.ch) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:28:09 -0500 Received: from rsplus11.cern.ch (rsplus11.cern.ch [137.138.246.85]) by smtp1.cern.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA31045; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:28:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (alban@localhost) by rsplus11.cern.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA91516; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:28:01 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: rsplus11.cern.ch: alban owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:28:00 +0100 (MET) From: Alban Kellerbauer X-Sender: alban@rsplus11.cern.ch To: David Jones cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [240X] Cardbus / [765D/760X] In-Reply-To: <200011061516.IAA06095@box3.pyrrhusoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I had read on the IBM web site that the PCMCIA slot on the 240X was a CardBus slot. However, I currently own a 765D which also has a CardBus slot hardware-wise. This feature was not available under WinNT and it also isn't (yet) available under Win2000. This is annoying because I bought the Adaptec 1480A Cardbus SCSI card and can't currently use it. Alban On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, David Jones wrote: > The PCMCIA slot on the 240 and 240X is a CardBus slot; i.e., it will > support both the older 16bit PCMCIA cards and the newer 32bit CardBus > style. According to IBM's device driver matrix, support is included > with Win2000. I cannot confirm this directly since I currently only > have PCMCIA cards which I am running under Win95 (on the 240) and > shortly Win98. > > David Jones > From cph Mon Nov 6 12:10:40 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA26894 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:10:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20210; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:00:45 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18616; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:59:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailsf2.innoventry.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18590; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:59:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailsf2.innoventry.com (216.101.175.243 -> mailsf2.innovisions.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:59:41 -0500 Received: by MAILSF2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:55:51 -0800 Message-ID: <21197C35EDDFD311954C00508B9B111FA77418@MAILSF2> From: Mitchell Yee To: "'Mark Bell'" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: FS: IBM SelectaDock III - Brand New!! CHEAP!! Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 08:55:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: My wholesale price seems to be about $25 in lots of 25 or so. ymmv too. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Bell [mailto:bytehead@bellatlantic.net] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 11:01 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: FS: IBM SelectaDock III - Brand New!! CHEAP!! These go for ~$100.00 or less on Ebay all the time. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=484308636 There is a gent there who seems to have an endless supply of them who pops up every month with them @ $75.00/ea in dutch format too. Mark At 06:05 PM 11/5/00 -0800, you wrote: >FS: IBM SelectaDock III >Docking station for the IBM ThinkPad 600, 760, 765, 770 series > >Here is your opportunity to buy a brand-new IBM SelectaDock III for your >ThinkPad. I purchased it from a fellow who purchased it brand-new and >then never used it. It's still in its original factory box...packed in >its original plastic bag and includes the original manual, software in >sealed envelope, and power cord. > >Asking $300 or best offer plus shipping. From cph Mon Nov 6 12:38:30 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA27246 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:38:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27385; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:34:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:32:55 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26934; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:32:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26916; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:32:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie.loop.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:32:50 -0500 Received: from tp701.pkhoury.com (p10.hwts17.loop.net [207.211.63.55]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA52182; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:28:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011061728.JAA52182@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "penzance@gate.net" Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 09:34:59 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 01:29:32 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >Is everyone getting more spam now..?? > Mainly on free accts I have, and tons when I was on earthlink. Everyone I know on Earthlink gets tons of spam... Strange. From cph Mon Nov 6 13:01:34 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA27496 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:01:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01463; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:59:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:56:31 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00996; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:56:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from laxmls02.socal.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00963; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from laxmls02.socal.rr.com (24.30.163.11 -> laxmls02.socal.rr.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:56:25 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (sc-24-24-233-88.socal.rr.com [24.24.233.88]) by laxmls02.socal.rr.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eA6Hswr24529 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:54:58 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: mikeford@pop-server.socal.rr.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200011061728.JAA52182@ritchie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:55:17 -0800 To: "ThinkPad List" From: Mike Ford Subject: Re: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM List-Unsubscribe: >>Is everyone getting more spam now..?? >> >Mainly on free accts I have, and tons when I was on earthlink. Everyone >I know on Earthlink gets tons of spam... Strange. I put my plain address on everything, and get less than one item per day of spam. I do nothing most of the time, and actually have more trouble with stupid sites I accidently or mistakenly sign up with. From cph Mon Nov 6 13:44:36 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA27888 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:44:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08808; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:39:51 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08073; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:39:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:39:42 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id NAA01686 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:39:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mplspop3.mpls.uswest.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00516; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:53:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mplspop3.mpls.uswest.net (204.147.80.13 -> mplspop3.mpls.uswest.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:53:05 -0500 Received: (qmail 2997 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2000 17:52:51 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 2963 invoked by uid 0); 6 Nov 2000 17:52:50 -0000 Received: from dialuphh79.mpls.uswest.net (HELO cschumann) (216.160.17.79) by mplspop3.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 6 Nov 2000 17:52:50 -0000 Message-ID: <00aa01c0481a$5b746c40$1000a8c0@cschumann> From: "Chris Schumann" To: "Mitchell Yee" , "'Mark Bell'" , References: <21197C35EDDFD311954C00508B9B111FA77418@MAILSF2> Subject: Re: FS: IBM SelectaDock III - Brand New!! CHEAP!! Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:52:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: I bought one on eBay for $75+shipping, unused in open box, on a dutch auction. All manuals were included, but it did seem a bit old, in that the manual didn't really mention the 600-series, IIRC. IBM doesn't seem to be selling the SelectaDock any more. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitchell Yee" To: "'Mark Bell'" ; Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 10:55 AM Subject: RE: FS: IBM SelectaDock III - Brand New!! CHEAP!! > My wholesale price seems to be about $25 in lots > of 25 or so. > > ymmv too. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Bell [mailto:bytehead@bellatlantic.net] > Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 11:01 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: FS: IBM SelectaDock III - Brand New!! CHEAP!! > > > These go for ~$100.00 or less on Ebay all the time. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=484308636 > > There is a gent there who seems to have an endless supply of them > who pops up every month with them @ $75.00/ea in dutch format too. > > Mark > > > At 06:05 PM 11/5/00 -0800, you wrote: > >FS: IBM SelectaDock III > >Docking station for the IBM ThinkPad 600, 760, 765, 770 series > > > >Here is your opportunity to buy a brand-new IBM SelectaDock III for your > >ThinkPad. I purchased it from a fellow who purchased it brand-new and > >then never used it. It's still in its original factory box...packed in > >its original plastic bag and includes the original manual, software in > >sealed envelope, and power cord. > > > >Asking $300 or best offer plus shipping. > From cph Mon Nov 6 19:27:11 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA31346 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:27:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24633; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:20:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:14:33 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23745; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:14:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23666; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:14:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.60 -> smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:14:03 -0500 Received: from 208-58-195-144.s144.tnt10.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([208.58.195.144]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 13swOk-0007aV-00 ; Mon, 06 Nov 2000 19:13:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:14:53 -0500 From: Donald MacQueen X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45) Personal Reply-To: Donald MacQueen X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <159470760729.20001106191453@erols.com> To: "Tony Rice" CC: "Thinkpad" Subject: Re[2]: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Tony, Monday, November 06, 2000, 9:59:16 AM, you wrote: >> The instant I see that spam has landed in my inbox, I stop whatever I'm >> doing and look at the headers to figure out where the blasted stuff is >> coming from, and send mail to root@, abuse@ and postmaster@ of the >> originating domain. > Save yourself a little time and use SpamCop (http://spamcop.net) it does the > work for you. Yes. Very easy to use. I busted three spammers at lunchtime. Thanks for the URL. -- Donald Donald M. MacQueen Registered Smalltalk Bigot, [Esq.] From cph Mon Nov 6 22:05:47 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA00303 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:05:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11988; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:54:00 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11112; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot11.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11090; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:53:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot11.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.31 -> pilot11.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:53:58 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (pm453-12.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.166]) by pilot11.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eA72rnN18048 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:53:49 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001106212844.023dc7b0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 21:54:17 -0500 To: ThinkPad List From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: 64M sodimm: whats it worth? In-Reply-To: <159470760729.20001106191453@erols.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I have 192M in my 1480i ThinkPad and have been lusting after 256M for a while now. Given that crucial's price in 128M sodimms has fallen to $99, I'd like to get another. If I do this I'll have a 64M sodimm that I won't need. What's it worth, these days? Crucial's price is $49.49 plus $10 or so for shipping, so I wonder if $44 (including shipping) is a reasonable price? Normally I horde ram, but I have no other machines that use this type of memory that need any. Is that reasonable? Is anyone interested? --STeve Andre' From cph Mon Nov 6 22:42:54 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA00568 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:42:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15589; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:38:43 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15092; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15073; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:38:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:38:40 -0500 Received: from tp1480 (client-141-152-159-27.bellatlantic.net [141.152.159.27]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA12491; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:38:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000b01c0486c$273f46a0$6501a8c0@tp1480> From: "Jim Biggerstaff" To: "ThinkPad List" , "STeve Andre'" References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001106212844.023dc7b0@pilot.msu.edu> Subject: Re: 64M sodimm: whats it worth? Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:38:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: A quick search of completed items ("64MB sodimm") on Ebay shows most are going for about $55, a few for less than that. Many of the sold items are shown as "new". jim ----- Original Message ----- From: STeve Andre' To: ThinkPad List Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 9:54 PM Subject: 64M sodimm: whats it worth? > I have 192M in my 1480i ThinkPad and have been lusting after 256M > for a while now. Given that crucial's price in 128M sodimms has fallen > to $99, I'd like to get another. > > If I do this I'll have a 64M sodimm that I won't need. What's it worth, these > days? Crucial's price is $49.49 plus $10 or so for shipping, so I wonder if > $44 (including shipping) is a reasonable price? Normally I horde ram, but I > have no other machines that use this type of memory that need any. > > Is that reasonable? Is anyone interested? > > --STeve Andre' > From cph Mon Nov 6 23:01:06 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA00717 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 23:01:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17717; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:56:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:54:42 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17134; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:54:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot23.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17112; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:54:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot23.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.43 -> pilot23.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:54:40 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (pm453-12.dialip.mich.net [198.110.20.166]) by pilot23.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eA73sb714444 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:54:37 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001106224340.023c6dc0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 22:48:07 -0500 To: "ThinkPad List" From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: 64M sodimm: whats it worth? In-Reply-To: <000b01c0486c$273f46a0$6501a8c0@tp1480> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001106212844.023dc7b0@pilot.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: That's pretty wild, considering that Crucial's price is about $5 less than that. Then again, I have discovered that the normal world of economics stops at Ebay's front door, where the laws of supply and demand weirdly intermingle with greed and lust..... Thanks, Jim. --STeve Andre' At 10:38 PM 11/6/00 -0500, Jim Biggerstaff wrote: >A quick search of completed items ("64MB sodimm") on Ebay shows most are >going for about $55, a few for less than that. Many of the sold items are >shown as "new". > >jim > >----- Original Message ----- >From: STeve Andre' >To: ThinkPad List >Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 9:54 PM >Subject: 64M sodimm: whats it worth? > > > > I have 192M in my 1480i ThinkPad and have been lusting after 256M > > for a while now. Given that crucial's price in 128M sodimms has fallen > > to $99, I'd like to get another. > > > > If I do this I'll have a 64M sodimm that I won't need. What's it worth, >these > > days? Crucial's price is $49.49 plus $10 or so for shipping, so I wonder >if > > $44 (including shipping) is a reasonable price? Normally I horde ram, but >I > > have no other machines that use this type of memory that need any. > > > > Is that reasonable? Is anyone interested? > > > > --STeve Andre' > > From cph Tue Nov 7 00:42:09 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA01569 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:42:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25931; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:37:07 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25470; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25457; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:37:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:37:05 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-178.gate.net [207.36.212.178]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA138996; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:36:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3A0794FD.936EEAA5@gate.net> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 00:37:01 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Ford CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i was referring to members of this list.. i use this e-mail address for very few things, except this list and a few other uses.. suddenly, the trash spam level has increased.. to a loud cacaphony of cra.. uhh.. spam.. Mike Ford wrote: > >>Is everyone getting more spam now..?? > >> > >Mainly on free accts I have, and tons when I was on earthlink. Everyone > >I know on Earthlink gets tons of spam... Strange. > > I put my plain address on everything, and get less than one item per day of > spam. I do nothing most of the time, and actually have more trouble with > stupid sites I accidently or mistakenly sign up with. -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Tue Nov 7 01:51:03 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA01967 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 01:51:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00603; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 01:49:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 01:46:35 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00264; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 01:46:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtppop1pub.verizon.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00249; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 01:46:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtppop1pub.verizon.net (206.46.170.20 -> smtppop1pub.gte.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 01:46:33 -0500 Received: from evrtwa1-ar5-245-061.dsl.gtei.net (evrtwa1-ar5-245-061.dsl.gtei.net [4.35.245.61]) by smtppop1pub.verizon.net with SMTP for ; id AAA17219253 Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:41:45 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200011070641.AAA17219253@smtppop1pub.verizon.net> From: "LightSide/ Click" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 22:58:28 +0000 Reply-To: "LightSide/ Click" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 01:29:32 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >Is everyone getting more spam now..?? This account I'm on now is new as of Aug 1st and I have gotten many "e-mail us and we'll call you back " credit card offers and now sexual material. I subscribe to this and one other listserv. Unfortunately I subscribed to both at the same time so I have no idea which list got harvested. Robert From cph Tue Nov 7 02:37:17 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA02154 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 02:37:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03583; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 02:35:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 02:33:38 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03390; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 02:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03377; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 02:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 02:33:36 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-454.gate.net [199.227.173.200]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA87970; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 02:33:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3A07B027.A8C48E62@gate.net> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 02:32:55 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "STeve Andre'" CC: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: 64M sodimm: whats it worth? References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001106212844.023dc7b0@pilot.msu.edu> <5.0.0.25.0.20001106224340.023c6dc0@pilot.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: add insanity and emotion to greed and lust.. :-) auctions reflect just how dumb some smart people can be.. and i do not eliminate myself from the above group.. STeve Andre' wrote: > That's pretty wild, considering that Crucial's price is about $5 less than > that. > Then again, I have discovered that the normal world of economics stops > at Ebay's front door, where the laws of supply and demand weirdly intermingle > with greed and lust..... > > Thanks, Jim. > > --STeve Andre' > > At 10:38 PM 11/6/00 -0500, Jim Biggerstaff wrote: > >A quick search of completed items ("64MB sodimm") on Ebay shows most are > >going for about $55, a few for less than that. Many of the sold items are > >shown as "new". > > > >jim > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: STeve Andre' > >To: ThinkPad List > >Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 9:54 PM > >Subject: 64M sodimm: whats it worth? > > > > > > > I have 192M in my 1480i ThinkPad and have been lusting after 256M > > > for a while now. Given that crucial's price in 128M sodimms has fallen > > > to $99, I'd like to get another. > > > > > > If I do this I'll have a 64M sodimm that I won't need. What's it worth, > >these > > > days? Crucial's price is $49.49 plus $10 or so for shipping, so I wonder > >if > > > $44 (including shipping) is a reasonable price? Normally I horde ram, but > >I > > > have no other machines that use this type of memory that need any. > > > > > > Is that reasonable? Is anyone interested? > > > > > > --STeve Andre' > > > -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Tue Nov 7 08:02:02 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id IAA04341 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:02:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27864; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:00:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 07:58:37 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27497; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 07:58:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27483; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 07:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.46 -> mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 07:58:35 -0500 Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.132]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001107125834.PDOG4818.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@dts-jl> for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:58:34 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20001107080116.01ad7100@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 08:01:16 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM In-Reply-To: <200011070641.AAA17219253@smtppop1pub.verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 10:58 PM 11/06/2000 +0000, LightSide/ Click wrote: >This account I'm on now is new as of Aug 1st and I have gotten many >"e-mail us and we'll call you back " credit card offers and now sexual >material. I subscribe to this and one other listserv. Unfortunately I >subscribed to both at the same time so I have no idea which list got harvested. > Probably both. From cph Tue Nov 7 08:15:03 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id IAA04392 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:15:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29275; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:13:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:11:55 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29039; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:11:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29026; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:11:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (194.75.152.224 -> doggy.lineone.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:11:53 -0500 Received: from hicdbs (host212-140-19-62.btinternet.com [212.140.19.62]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA06121 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:11:43 GMT Message-Id: <200011071311.NAA06121@scooby.lineone.net> From: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" To: "thinkpad" Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 13:11:09 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <200011061728.JAA52182@ritchie.loop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id IAA29275 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id IAA04393 On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 09:34:59 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: >Mainly on free accts I have, and tons when I was on earthlink. Everyone >I know on Earthlink gets tons of spam... Strange. Many ISP's or email hosting services sell their email lists. þ H.I.C. & D.B.S. þ OS/2 Warp þ Hellas þ þ ServerConfig þ ConfigEdit þ OS/2 UK UG þ From cph Tue Nov 7 10:48:20 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA05497 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:48:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17703; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:47:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:44:48 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17222; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix2.free.fr (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17200; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix2.free.fr (212.27.32.74 -> postfix2.free.fr) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:44:40 -0500 Received: from tp-560 (paris11-nas4-47-55.dial.proxad.net [212.27.47.55]) by postfix2.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id DE77374059 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:44:34 +0100 (MET) From: "Sylvestre Meininger" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 16:45:19 +0100 Reply-To: "Sylvestre Meininger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: T20 & X20 PC Cards door Message-Id: <20001107154434.DE77374059@postfix2.free.fr> List-Unsubscribe: Hello there, On the 560 (any model I believe), the little PC Card door cannot be fully closed when PC Cards are inserted (unless I REALLY did miss something...). Everyone here who owns a 560 knows how annoying this can be, especially when one uses a CF Memory card for backup. Now, I'd like to know if the T and X lines also have this problem. Can anyone help ? Thanks sylvestre From cph Tue Nov 7 12:55:47 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA06848 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:55:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04666; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:52:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:48:48 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03968; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailsf2.innoventry.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03867; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:48:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailsf2.innoventry.com (216.101.175.243 -> mailsf2.innovisions.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:48:28 -0500 Received: by MAILSF2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:44:37 -0800 Message-ID: <21197C35EDDFD311954C00508B9B111FA77426@MAILSF2> From: Mitchell Yee To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: FS: IBM KB/Mouse connector for Thinkpads Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:44:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: A commercial interruption: I've got a bunch of IBM part no. 54G0441 These are the Y cable for the PS/2 port on a Thinkpad that enables the connection of both a PS/2 mouse and PS/2 Keyboard. The cables are new, in box. A few boxes are munched, but the contents are intact. I'd like $15 including shipping (priority mail). Drop me an email if you are interested. Thanks, Mitchell From cph Tue Nov 7 13:30:15 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA07155 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:30:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09525; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:26:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:23:48 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08956; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:23:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08934; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:23:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:23:45 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA01018; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:23:11 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000b01c048e7$c4531b80$cd62183f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Sylvestre Meininger" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" References: <20001107154434.DE77374059@postfix2.free.fr> Subject: Re: T20 & X20 PC Cards door Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:23:00 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > On the 560 (any model I believe), the little PC Card door cannot be fully closed when PC Cards are > inserted (unless I REALLY did miss something...). You missed something. When the card goes in, the button pops out (which seems to block the door), but then the button can be pulled out a twidge, folded down, and the door can then be closed. I don't know if IBM continued this very clever design with the newer machines. > Everyone here who owns a 560 knows how annoying this can be, especially when one uses a CF > Memory card for backup. Sorry, you should have asked us about this when you got your 560:-) - David R. From cph Tue Nov 7 16:23:42 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA09106 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:23:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03531; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:16:06 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02754; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:16:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02732; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:15:52 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-414.gate.net [199.227.173.160]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA274522; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:15:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3A087100.BF0662AA@gate.net> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 16:15:44 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sylvestre Meininger CC: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: T20 & X20 PC Cards door References: <20001107154434.DE77374059@postfix2.free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: T&A series do not.. Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > Hello there, > > On the 560 (any model I believe), the little PC Card door cannot be fully closed when PC Cards are > inserted (unless I REALLY did miss something...). > Everyone here who owns a 560 knows how annoying this can be, especially when one uses a CF > Memory card for backup. > > Now, I'd like to know if the T and X lines also have this problem. Can anyone help ? > > Thanks > > sylvestre -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Tue Nov 7 22:06:38 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA12101 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:06:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13317; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:04:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:56:50 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12312; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9507.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12248; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9507.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.129.21 -> web9507.mail.yahoo.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:56:13 -0500 Message-ID: <20001108025608.53833.qmail@web9507.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.221.61.56] by web9507.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 18:56:08 PST Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:56:08 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: Re: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Stay Away from Earthlink! They are crooks! I got an account through Sprint and they were advertising a free digital camera with any new account but they wouldn't give me the camera! Also, Sprint's network is so slow it's unusable most of the time. I never used the Earthlink email account so the joke's on them! > >Mainly on free accts I have, and tons when I was on > earthlink. Everyone > >I know on Earthlink gets tons of spam... Strange. > Many ISP's or email hosting services sell their > email lists. ===== Sprint Broadband Direct Sucks, they should call it Sprint Narrowband! That is, when it's not DOWN! My old phone modem was faster! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ From cph Tue Nov 7 23:48:11 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA12887 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 23:48:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24008; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 23:45:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 23:41:53 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23389; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 23:41:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23366; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 23:41:48 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.46 -> mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 7 Nov 2000 23:41:48 -0500 Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.135.60]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001108044137.BDLZ4818.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 04:41:37 +0000 Received: from [24.189.193.217] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Wed, 08 Nov 2000 04:41:37 +0000 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760ED/XD/D Joystick cable Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 04:41:37 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 2 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: scosgt@att.net Message-Id: <20001108044137.BDLZ4818.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> List-Unsubscribe: Anyone have the FRU# for the MIDI/Joystick cable for the ThinkPad 760ED/XD, or better yet have one for sale? Thanks > T&A series do not.. > > Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > > > Hello there, > > > > On the 560 (any model I believe), the little PC Card door cannot be fully > closed when PC Cards are > > inserted (unless I REALLY did miss something...). > > Everyone here who owns a 560 knows how annoying this can be, especially when > one uses a CF > > Memory card for backup. > > > > Now, I'd like to know if the T and X lines also have this problem. Can anyone > help ? > > > > Thanks > > > > sylvestre > > -- > --- > > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net > open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? > sic transit gloria > > From cph Wed Nov 8 16:30:14 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA20539 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:30:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06655; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:28:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:23:45 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06103; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:23:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pele.WURLDLINK.NET (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06081; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:23:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from pele.WURLDLINK.NET (216.235.52.2 -> pele.WURLDLINK.NET) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:23:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by pele.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA77094; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 11:23:14 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@pele.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 11:23:14 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: "STeve Andre'" cc: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001106013557.02012650@pilot.msu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, STeve Andre' wrote: Actually, it's the other way around. The small ISP's would be more concerned. It's the Big ISP's that are the source of the problem since half the spam originates from MCI WorldCom's UUNet dialups. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin > Yes, I certainly am, and have adopted a zero-tolerance attitude towards > it now. > > The instant I see that spam has landed in my inbox, I stop whatever I'm > doing and look at the headers to figure out where the blasted stuff is > coming from, and send mail to root@, abuse@ and postmaster@ of the > originating domain. > > Once now, the people who were being used actually managed to catch > the spammer in the act! That was a good feeling. > > I encourage everyone to do this, to get all ISP's to take this problem > more seriously. The really big ISP's seem to, but a lot of others don't. > > --STeve Andre' > > At 01:29 AM 11/6/00 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: > >Is everyone getting more spam now..?? > > > >-- > >--- > > > >Happy trails... > > > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) > >WEB page http://thinkpads.com > >e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net > >open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? > >sic transit gloria > > From cph Wed Nov 8 18:33:54 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA21552 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:33:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19098; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:30:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:28:30 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18807; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:28:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18781; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:28:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:28:23 -0500 Received: from p3-1ghz (client-151-204-210-91.delval.dialup.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.91]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA24840 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:28:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001108182316.025d1820@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 18:27:11 -0500 To: ThinkPad List From: Mark Bell Subject: A20P and 770ED for auction (or sale) In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001106013557.02012650@pilot.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I'm moving two extra units. A20P (26296AU. Optional Nic/Modem Available) Unit is new. Opened and configured for a client who went with another model. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=493368044 770ED (95495AU) It was going to go to my brother, but he opted to stick with his Tecra (What was *HE* thinking?? Ya know, sometimes you can't get people to see the light...) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=493373451 Listed here, as I will entertain outside offers for these items from list members. Mark ElectroSoft Consulting From cph Wed Nov 8 20:33:08 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA22751 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:33:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29983; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:31:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:28:22 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29599; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:28:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailsf2.innoventry.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29579; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:28:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailsf2.innoventry.com (216.101.175.243 -> mailsf2.innovisions.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:28:13 -0500 Received: by MAILSF2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:24:19 -0800 Message-ID: <21197C35EDDFD311954C00508B9B111FA77447@MAILSF2> From: Mitchell Yee To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: FS: TP570 Ultrabase (new) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:24:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Ok, ok, I've been cleaning out my storage room... A while back, I was sent an eval Thinkpad 570 Ultrabase. I suppose it would have been nice had I bought a 570, but I didn't. So the ultrabase has sat around gathering dust. It's new, factory-sealed. Cost: $20 plus shipping, estimated to be $10. There's just one. You can get the same from eBay for $39 or so. BTW: I had to pay $20 for shipping and handling to me. thanks, Mitchell ps: if anyone finds my postings of late to be too blatantly commercial, tell me and I'll stop. From cph Thu Nov 9 02:44:00 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA25322 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 02:43:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28665; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 02:42:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 9 Nov 2000 02:38:44 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28303; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 02:38:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9501.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28290; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 02:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9501.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.129.131 -> web9501.mail.yahoo.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 9 Nov 2000 02:38:43 -0500 Message-ID: <20001109073838.59838.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.221.61.56] by web9501.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 08 Nov 2000 23:38:38 PST Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 23:38:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM to James Mckenzie To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Hey James, mail to you bounced. Theriver.com doesn't know who you are! --- Mail Delivery System wrote: > This is the Postfix program at host > pantano.theriver.com. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message > returned > below could not be delivered to one or more > destinations. > > For further assistance, please contact > > > If you do so, please include this problem report. > You can > delete your own text from the message returned > below. > > The Postfix program > > : unknown user: > "os2suppport" > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 10:03:07 -0800 (PST) > From: "Steve C." > Subject: Re: SPAM SPAM and more SPAM > To: James Mckenzie > > I'm in E. Mesa, in what's called the Superstition > Springs area. Everyone advertises DSL as being > available in this area but when I try to sign up for > it they can't actually provide it. I guess we are > too > far from the CO or maybe it's USWorst's lousy > wiring. > I can't even get a second line, they say all the > wires > in the cable are in use. > You must be near Tucson to get Sprint? When ever I > call to complain about how slow it it, the tech > support guy is in Tucson and always says it is > working > just great there! I think the SOB just wants to rub > it in! I'd like to go down there and punch him in > the > nose sometimes because it really sucks here. I think > two minutes to pull up each email message is just > too > slow even for an old telephone modem. My modem is > actually faster than Sprint most of the time. > Have you looked at the new high speed satellite > service from Gilat called Starband? They have it at > Radio Shack as high speed MSN. I watch it work at > the > store in Casa Grande and it was pretty impressive. > The > MSN speed test showed a download speed of about > 760kb/sec. I don't know what the upload speed was > but > it didn't have any of the delay that I expected to > see > since people beta testing it have been reporting 0.7 > sec. delay. That's still faster than Sprints 1.2 > second ping times. Problem with Gilat is that Radio > Shack is only selling it as part of a package that > includes a Compaq computer and MSN subscription. > They > don't have it for sale by itself yet. Dish network > is > also supposed to be selling Gilat and they are > showing > a small dish with a third feed horn for the internet > part. (the dish normally has two feeds). They don't > yet have prices or anything however. > > --- James Mckenzie wrote: > > You have to be somewhere outside of the 'normal' > or > > highly built up > > areas in the United States to really get ripped > > off.... > > > > Here I have only ONE choice for 'high speed' > > internet, and that is > > Sprint Broadband. DSL, nope, the cable plant will > > not handle the data > > rate, nor is the current switch equipped for it. > > I'm not even eligible > > for ISDN. Oh, the local service QWEST will not be > > replacing the switch > > until the year 2005. You say, get Cable Modem > > service. COX Comm will > > not be installing Cable Modem service, here, ever. > > > "Not cost > > effective"... > > > > So, we are a modem society down here. Or you get > a > > dish and either get > > DirectPC or Sprint. > > > > And for what its worth, Earthlink shares their > phone > > bank with three > > other services, FreeInternet being one of them. > > > > James Mckenzie > > > > > ===== > Sprint Broadband Direct Sucks, they should call it > Sprint Narrowband! That is, when it's not DOWN! My > old phone modem was faster! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in > one Place. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > ===== Sprint Broadband Direct Sucks, they should call it Sprint Narrowband! That is, when it's not DOWN! My old phone modem was faster! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ From cph Thu Nov 9 03:30:17 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id DAA25522 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 03:30:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02812; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 03:29:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 9 Nov 2000 03:25:21 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02292; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 03:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02279; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 03:25:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (212.175.201.3) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 9 Nov 2000 03:25:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (turgut@localhost) by home.egenet.com.tr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05405; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:24:08 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:24:08 +0200 (EET) From: Turgut Kalfaoglu To: ege-humor@list.egenet.com.tr cc: thinkpad discussion list Subject: OT: M$ Must Read (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:09:55 -0500 From: Michael Lueck Reply-To: os2-isp@hethmon.com ********** Dr. Frank Soltis, the IBM engineer who has been called "the AS/400's Elvis," recently shared a success story during a keynote speech at a user conference in Florida. This particular company was in the software distribution business and at one point had 23 AS/400s located around the world. The company was a very good customer, went from CISC to RISC, and was always one of the first to upgrade to new technology, he said. Then came the Year 2000 problem, and despite five years of dedicated service during a period of great revenue growth, the company decided that it was time to move off the AS/400. So in June of 1999, the company unplugged its AS/400s and powered up 1200 NT servers it needed to replace them. But things didn't quite go as planned. "They found they couldn't make it work," Soltis told the crowd. "Today, one year after unplugging their AS/400s, they're back on the AS/400." That company is Microsoft. "They viewed that as a point of embarrassment," Soltis said. "We thought it was kind of fun....Can you think of a company with greater incentive to move to NT, and they couldn't do it?" ********** From cph Thu Nov 9 18:18:51 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA01640 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:18:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26624; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:11:54 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25413; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:11:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25389; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:11:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:11:51 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-81.gate.net [199.227.20.144]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA74352 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:11:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3A0B2F34.32DCC088@gate.net> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 18:11:48 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: More Spam directly to this list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: this spam was directed to the list members.. ETOWN SHOWS!!!!! -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Thu Nov 9 18:28:26 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA01751 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:28:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28222; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:26:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:25:07 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27975; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:25:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27908; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (206.141.239.142 -> mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:25:02 -0500 Received: from Techshop ([64.108.199.64]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20001109224023.OAK4456.mailhost.chi.ameritech.net@Techshop>; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 16:40:23 -0600 Message-ID: <007101c04a9c$b33ac260$0201a8c0@ameritech.net> From: "Matt Winston" To: "Sylvestre Meininger" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" References: <20001107154434.DE77374059@postfix2.free.fr> Subject: Re: T20 & X20 PC Cards door Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 16:30:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Hi, The pc card slots on the 560 have a small tab that you can flip up and over to the side so the door will close. I leave my pc cards in the TP, never had a problem closing the door. Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvestre Meininger" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 9:45 AM Subject: T20 & X20 PC Cards door Hello there, On the 560 (any model I believe), the little PC Card door cannot be fully closed when PC Cards are inserted (unless I REALLY did miss something...). Everyone here who owns a 560 knows how annoying this can be, especially when one uses a CF Memory card for backup. Now, I'd like to know if the T and X lines also have this problem. Can anyone help ? Thanks sylvestre From cph Thu Nov 9 20:40:19 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA02958 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:40:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12054; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:38:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:35:12 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11590; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:35:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp122.fibertel.com.ar (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11544; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:34:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp122.fibertel.com.ar (24.232.0.122) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:34:57 -0500 Received: from notebooklr (24.232.6.11) by smtp122.fibertel.com.ar (5.1.046) id 3A0043D0002687CA for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:34:26 -0300 From: "Leandro Rzezak" To: Subject: 128MB update causes Win2k to crash on 770ed (9549-5AU) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:35:33 -0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: With the GoldenRam 128MB SD RAM module (that worked fine giving me 192MB of oxigen on Windows NT 4.0) Windows 2000 gives me the blue screen 2 or 3 minutes after booting. It shows the blue screen of death for 1 second and it reboots. I could note that the exceptions are all different. The problem happens every time I use Win2k with the module. Removing the module (leaving only the original 64MB) Win2k works ok. I gave lattest BIOS, and Win2k with SP1. I also had to take out the module to install win2k because it didn't want to install correctly. Any ideas? Any experience? Please give me some ligth. Thank you in advance, Leandro PD: Please remember that the module worked ok with WinNT4. From cph Thu Nov 9 22:35:22 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA03711 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:35:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24749; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:33:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:29:57 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24257; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:29:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24244; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:29:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:29:53 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA11225; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 17:29:09 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001f01c04ac6$5d9faee0$3a62183f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Leandro Rzezak" , References: Subject: Re: 128MB update causes Win2k to crash on 770ed (9549-5AU) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 17:28:57 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: You might check the memory, using (for example) the 'docmemory' ram tester from http://www.simmtester.com Microsoft has a habit of writing code that is sensitive to things like fine timing control of chips; that is why W95 OSR2 needed a patch to run on AMD K6/2 chips over 350 mhz - David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leandro Rzezak" To: Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 3:35 PM Subject: 128MB update causes Win2k to crash on 770ed (9549-5AU) > With the GoldenRam 128MB SD RAM module (that worked fine giving me 192MB of > oxigen on Windows NT 4.0) Windows 2000 gives me the blue screen 2 or 3 > minutes after booting. > > It shows the blue screen of death for 1 second and it reboots. I could note > that the exceptions are all different. The problem happens every time I use > Win2k with the module. > > Removing the module (leaving only the original 64MB) Win2k works ok. > > I gave lattest BIOS, and Win2k with SP1. > > I also had to take out the module to install win2k because it didn't want to > install correctly. > > Any ideas? Any experience? Please give me some ligth. > > Thank you in advance, > > Leandro > > PD: Please remember that the module worked ok with WinNT4. > > > > From cph Fri Nov 10 03:33:41 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id DAA05809 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 03:33:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15737; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 03:23:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 03:19:15 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15129; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 03:19:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15116; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 03:19:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 03:19:14 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-67.gate.net [199.227.20.130]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA166558; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 03:19:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3A0BAF7C.3C98E358@gate.net> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 03:19:08 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leandro Rzezak CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 128MB update causes Win2k to crash on 770ed (9549-5AU) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: goldenram has worldwide, lifetime warranty.. did you try just the 128meg part..? have you run a memory test..?? Leandro Rzezak wrote: > With the GoldenRam 128MB SD RAM module (that worked fine giving me 192MB of > oxigen on Windows NT 4.0) Windows 2000 gives me the blue screen 2 or 3 > minutes after booting. > > It shows the blue screen of death for 1 second and it reboots. I could note > that the exceptions are all different. The problem happens every time I use > Win2k with the module. > > Removing the module (leaving only the original 64MB) Win2k works ok. > > I gave lattest BIOS, and Win2k with SP1. > > I also had to take out the module to install win2k because it didn't want to > install correctly. > > Any ideas? Any experience? Please give me some ligth. > > Thank you in advance, > > Leandro > > PD: Please remember that the module worked ok with WinNT4. -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Fri Nov 10 04:46:44 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id EAA06370 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 04:46:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20376; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 04:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 04:43:02 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20149; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 04:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20135; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 04:43:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 04:43:01 -0500 Received: from p3-1ghz (client-151-204-210-7.delval.dialup.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.7]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA02652 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 04:42:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001110043716.0282b540@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 04:40:23 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: 3Com vs. Intel mini-pci In-Reply-To: <3A0BAF7C.3C98E358@gate.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_612422179==_.ALT" List-Unsubscribe: --=====================_612422179==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Awhile back, I was trying to find out if the 3com card was "win" based and/or if the Intel part was, "win" based. I found this in a search on IBM's website about the overview of both parts offered by IBM that would indicate the 3com part is not Windows reliant, but the Intel spec'd EtherJet part is: Begin quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Software requirements IBM 10/100 EtherJet Mini PCI Adapter with 56K Modem =B7 Microsoft Windows 95(OSR1 & OSR2.5) =B7 Windows 98 (Gold & S.E.) =B7 Windows N.T.4.0 =B7 Windows 2000 IBM 10/100 Ethernet Mini-PCI Adapter with 56K Modem by 3Com =B7 Windows 95(OSR1 & OSR2.5) =B7 Windows 98 (Gold & SE) =B7 Windows N.T.4.0 =B7 Windows 2000 =B7 PC-DOS 7.0 =B7 MS-DOS ver6.2 =B7 PC-DOS 2000 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Comments?=20 --=====================_612422179==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Awhile back, I was trying to find out if the 3com card was
"win" based and/or if the Intel part was, "win" based. I
found this in a search on IBM's website about the overview
of both parts offered by IBM that would indicate
the 3com part is not Windows reliant, but the Intel spec'd
EtherJet part is:

Begin quote:
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Software requirements
IBM 10/100 EtherJet Mini PCI Adapter with 56K Modem
=B7       Microsoft Windows 95(OSR1 & OSR2.5)
=B7       Windows 98 (Gold & S.E.)
=B7       Windows N.T.4.0
=B7       Windows 2000
IBM 10/100 Ethernet Mini-PCI Adapter with 56K Modem by 3Com
=B7       Windows 95(OSR1 & OSR2.5)
=B7       Windows 98 (Gold & SE)
=B7       Windows N.T.4.0
=B7       Windows 2000
=B7       PC-DOS 7.0
=B7       MS-DOS ver6.2
=B7       PC-DOS 2000
----------------------------------------------------------------------------=

Comments? --=====================_612422179==_.ALT-- From cph Fri Nov 10 06:59:50 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id GAA07306 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 06:59:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00864; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 06:58:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 06:56:38 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00622; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 06:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix3.free.fr (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00609; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 06:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix3.free.fr (212.27.32.22 -> postfix3.free.fr) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 06:56:36 -0500 Received: from tp-560 (paris11-nas4-46-175.dial.proxad.net [212.27.46.175]) by postfix3.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 567E686B77 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:56:34 +0100 (CET) From: "Sylvestre Meininger" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:57:28 +0100 Reply-To: "Sylvestre Meininger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: T20 & X20 PC Cards door Message-Id: <20001110115634.567E686B77@postfix3.free.fr> List-Unsubscribe: Thanks to all who replied to such a query... Without making fun of me. That's one more thing in favor of this great list : everyone here respects the mentally disabled. sylvestre (mentally disabled, but getting better with your help) From cph Fri Nov 10 10:21:58 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA08683 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:21:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22230; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:18:29 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21868; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:18:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp122.fibertel.com.ar (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21846; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:18:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp122.fibertel.com.ar (24.232.0.122) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:18:05 -0500 Received: from notebooklr (24.232.0.1) by smtp122.fibertel.com.ar (5.1.046) id 3A0043D0002955AD; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:17:23 -0300 From: "Leandro Rzezak" To: Cc: Subject: RE: 128MB update causes Win2k to crash on 770ed (9549-5AU) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:18:31 -0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3A0BAF7C.3C98E358@gate.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Took out the 32MB module provided with the notebook and installed the 128meg part. Win2k didn't work. I also ran the tests with both parts installed and they passed successfully. Leandro -----Mensaje original----- De: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] Enviado el: Viernes, 10 de Noviembre de 2000 05:19 Para: Leandro Rzezak CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Asunto: Re: 128MB update causes Win2k to crash on 770ed (9549-5AU) goldenram has worldwide, lifetime warranty.. did you try just the 128meg part..? have you run a memory test..?? Leandro Rzezak wrote: > With the GoldenRam 128MB SD RAM module (that worked fine giving me 192MB of > oxigen on Windows NT 4.0) Windows 2000 gives me the blue screen 2 or 3 > minutes after booting. > > It shows the blue screen of death for 1 second and it reboots. I could note > that the exceptions are all different. The problem happens every time I use > Win2k with the module. > > Removing the module (leaving only the original 64MB) Win2k works ok. > > I gave lattest BIOS, and Win2k with SP1. > > I also had to take out the module to install win2k because it didn't want to > install correctly. > > Any ideas? Any experience? Please give me some ligth. > > Thank you in advance, > > Leandro > > PD: Please remember that the module worked ok with WinNT4. -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Fri Nov 10 14:41:39 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA11417 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:41:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28255; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:39:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:32:57 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27572; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:32:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27553; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:32:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.19 -> cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:32:42 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer - 63.48.2.25 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:17:21 -0800 Message-ID: <003a01c04b4b$020b4fa0$5300303f@oemcomputer> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Thinkpad Users" Subject: DSL or Cable Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:18:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: I'm looking at getting better internet service, what's involved to hook my 560E up to cable or dsl? I need to get faster connections than the 19.200 to 24.000 I'm getting now. Booger http://communities.msn.com/CyberboogersFunThinkpads From cph Fri Nov 10 15:30:14 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA11853 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:30:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03742; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:28:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:26:46 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03460; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:26:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03441; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:26:43 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.49 -> mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:26:44 -0500 Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.135.40]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001110202641.ZTNZ13638.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:26:41 +0000 Received: from [24.189.193.217] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:26:41 +0000 To: "Brad Burean" Cc: "Thinkpad Users" Subject: Re: DSL or Cable Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:26:41 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 2 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: scosgt@att.net Message-Id: <20001110202641.ZTNZ13638.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> List-Unsubscribe: I am using cable modem from Cablevision. It is amazingly fast. You will need a PCMCIA Ethernet card and a cable modem (external) > I'm looking at getting better internet service, what's involved to hook my > 560E up to cable or dsl? I need to get faster connections than the 19.200 > to 24.000 I'm getting now. > Booger > > http://communities.msn.com/CyberboogersFunThinkpads > > > > From cph Fri Nov 10 15:31:42 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA11866 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:31:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04265; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:30:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:28:44 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03827; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:28:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from server.accumedia.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03780; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:28:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from server.accumedia.com (204.144.133.110 -> gw.accumedia.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:28:37 -0500 Received: from accumedia.com (houdini.accumedia.com [172.16.0.4]) by server.accumedia.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eAAJpsf26489; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:51:54 -0700 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: DSL or Cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:28:29 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4368.4 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DSL or Cable Thread-Index: AcBLTYzmgCdURbZ4SjmEA+OetLXVewABy/rA From: "Steve Hultquist" To: "Brad Burean" , "Thinkpad Users" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id PAA11867 An Ethernet PC Card. I'd recommend the Xircoms without a dongle. ssh > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Burean [mailto:Burean@email.msn.com] > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 12:18 > To: Thinkpad Users > Subject: DSL or Cable > > > I'm looking at getting better internet service, what's > involved to hook my > 560E up to cable or dsl? I need to get faster connections > than the 19.200 > to 24.000 I'm getting now. > Booger > > http://communities.msn.com/CyberboogersFunThinkpads > > > > > From cph Fri Nov 10 15:32:19 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA11873 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:32:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04420; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:30:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:29:12 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03952; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:29:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from web210.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03920; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:29:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from web210.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.110 -> web210.mail.yahoo.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:29:09 -0500 Received: (qmail 11129 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 2000 20:29:02 -0000 Message-ID: <20001110202902.11128.qmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.88.232.67] by web210.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:29:02 PST Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:29:02 -0800 (PST) From: Pencetera Reply-To: pencetera@yahoo.com Subject: Re: DSL or Cable To: Brad Burean , Thinkpad Users MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: There's several ways you can go depending on your situation. I recently replaced my DSL with cable. With DSL I experienced too many interruptions - in this case it would periodically ignore any input for about a minute then it was fine for awhile, very annoying. Otherwise it was very fast. I had a USB modem that worked well. With cable you'll need a network card. While cable is more effected by load it's still plenty fast for me and I like it better since it's always connected as opposed to having to log in and out on my DSL (not all are that way though). Throughput for my DSL was 100 - 145k per sec on average. On cable, if it's during the day or a low use time I can get as high as 2mb per sec but, during peak use (evenings/weekends) I get around 55 - 60k per sec. --- Brad Burean wrote: > I'm looking at getting better internet service, > what's involved to hook my > 560E up to cable or dsl? I need to get faster > connections than the 19.200 > to 24.000 I'm getting now. > Booger > > http://communities.msn.com/CyberboogersFunThinkpads > > > > ===== http://www.pencetera.com - "For those who want to do it write" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ From cph Fri Nov 10 16:04:50 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA12443 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:04:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07920; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:02:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:00:03 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07543; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:00:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from lima.epix.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07518; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:59:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from lima.epix.net (199.224.64.56 -> lima.epix.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:59:48 -0500 Received: from mohotta (itha-125ppp30.epix.net [199.224.125.30]) by lima.epix.net (8.10.1/8.10.1/2000080901/PL) with SMTP id eAAKxcs05101 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:59:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011102059.eAAKxcs05101@lima.epix.net> From: "Julian Thomas" Reply-to: "Julian Thomas" Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:58:23 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: A20m modem question X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 List-Unsubscribe: The A20 internal modem seems to be a Winmodem - works in W98 but under OS2 doesn't even respond to an ATZ command. Are there any other modems that would fit internally, or do I need to go PCMCIA? -- Julian Thomas: jt@epix.net http://home.epix.net/~jt In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc http://www.possi.org -- -- All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? From cph Fri Nov 10 16:51:30 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA12928 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:51:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12779; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:49:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:46:32 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12468; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:46:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9503.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12455; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:46:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9503.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.129.133 -> web9503.mail.yahoo.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:46:27 -0500 Message-ID: <20001110214626.63010.qmail@web9503.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.221.61.56] by web9503.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:46:26 PST Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:46:26 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: Re: DSL or Cable To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Usually a 10Base-T Ethernet card is required to connect to the cable modem or DSL but some will allow using USB instead. The big question is whether you can get DSL or cable internet in your area? I can't get it at my house. --- Brad Burean wrote: > I'm looking at getting better internet service, > what's involved to hook my > 560E up to cable or dsl? I need to get faster > connections than the 19.200 > to 24.000 I'm getting now. > Booger > > http://communities.msn.com/CyberboogersFunThinkpads > > > > ===== Sprint Broadband Direct Sucks, they should call it Sprint Narrowband! That is, when it's not DOWN! My old phone modem was faster! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ From cph Fri Nov 10 19:41:56 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA14371 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:41:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27414; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:40:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:36:41 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27071; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27058; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:36:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.19 -> cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:36:39 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer - 63.48.0.97 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:36:28 -0800 Message-ID: <001201c04b77$978a7980$6100303f@oemcomputer> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Thinkpad Users" Cc: "Doug Argo" Subject: 755 hinges & keyboard Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:37:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: If you have these available please contact this guy. He's really needing them Doug Argo dargo@bellsouth.net Booger http://communities.msn.com/CyberboogersFunThinkpads From cph Fri Nov 10 19:59:26 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA14475 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:59:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29235; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:57:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:55:48 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28989; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:55:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28976; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:55:47 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.52 -> mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:55:47 -0500 Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.135.59]) by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001111005546.NGUX7142.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:55:46 +0000 Received: from [24.189.193.217] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:55:45 +0000 To: "Brad Burean" Cc: "Thinkpad Users" , "Doug Argo" Subject: Re: 755 hinges & keyboard Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:55:45 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 2 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: scosgt@att.net Message-Id: <20001111005546.NGUX7142.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> List-Unsubscribe: I have an entire 755C he can have for $30.00 No memory, drives, battery It boots but has a bad HDD connector, sometimes it won;t see the hard drive. Otherwise, it is a working unit with all good parts! > If you have these available please contact this guy. He's really needing > them > > Doug Argo > > dargo@bellsouth.net > > Booger > > http://communities.msn.com/CyberboogersFunThinkpads > > > > From cph Fri Nov 10 22:18:36 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA15596 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:18:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10140; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:16:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:13:42 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09761; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:13:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09736; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:13:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.52 -> mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:13:28 -0500 Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.61.138]) by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001111031321.PHBG7142.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@dts-jl> for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 03:13:21 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20001110190842.00b0d9a0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:08:42 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: DSL or Cable In-Reply-To: <20001110202902.11128.qmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:29 PM 11/10/2000 -0800, Pencetera wrote: >There's several ways you can go depending on your >situation. I recently replaced my DSL with cable. With >DSL I experienced too many interruptions - in this >case it would periodically ignore any input for about >a minute then it was fine for awhile, very annoying. >Otherwise it was very fast. I had a USB modem that >worked well. > Since I don't cable or DSL yet, I have no direct experience. Luckily for you, that never stops me from offering anecdotal stories for your benefit. My cousin lives in the New Orleans area. He got DSL as soon as BellSouth offered it and loved it. It was stable and fast. Last November, he moved across the river to an area with no DSL, so he got a cable modem. He hated it. It was unstable and slow compared to the DSL he had had. A few months later, BellSouth offered DSL in his new area, and he signed up as soon as they would let him. He loves it. My sister lives in Charlotte. As soon as BellSouth offered DSL in her area, she signed up. She is not exactly happy. It's been fairly unstable and seems slow to her. The moral to these stories is that which one will satify you depends entirely on your provider and the infrastructure. Jane From cph Sat Nov 11 00:25:24 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA16531 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:25:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20600; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:23:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:22:01 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20346; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:22:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20333; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:22:00 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-226.gate.net [207.36.212.226]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA272276; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:21:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3A0CD770.1156AAE7@gate.net> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:21:52 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leandro Rzezak CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 128MB update causes Win2k to crash on 770ed (9549-5AU) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: what is the part number on the goldenram part... Leandro Rzezak wrote: > Took out the 32MB module provided with the notebook and installed the 128meg > part. > Win2k didn't work. > > I also ran the tests with both parts installed and they passed successfully. > > Leandro > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] > Enviado el: Viernes, 10 de Noviembre de 2000 05:19 > Para: Leandro Rzezak > CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Asunto: Re: 128MB update causes Win2k to crash on 770ed (9549-5AU) > > goldenram has worldwide, lifetime warranty.. > did you try just the 128meg part..? > have you run a memory test..?? > > Leandro Rzezak wrote: > > > With the GoldenRam 128MB SD RAM module (that worked fine giving me 192MB > of > > oxigen on Windows NT 4.0) Windows 2000 gives me the blue screen 2 or 3 > > minutes after booting. > > > > It shows the blue screen of death for 1 second and it reboots. I could > note > > that the exceptions are all different. The problem happens every time I > use > > Win2k with the module. > > > > Removing the module (leaving only the original 64MB) Win2k works ok. > > > > I gave lattest BIOS, and Win2k with SP1. > > > > I also had to take out the module to install win2k because it didn't want > to > > install correctly. > > > > Any ideas? Any experience? Please give me some ligth. > > > > Thank you in advance, > > > > Leandro > > > > PD: Please remember that the module worked ok with WinNT4. > > -- > --- > > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net > open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? > sic transit gloria -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Sat Nov 11 00:29:08 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA16542 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:29:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21332; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:27:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:26:28 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21031; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:26:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21018; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:26:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:26:26 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-226.gate.net [207.36.212.226]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA36250; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:26:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3A0CD87D.F3D82834@gate.net> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:26:21 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Burean CC: Thinkpad Users Subject: Re: DSL or Cable References: <003a01c04b4b$020b4fa0$5300303f@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: can't speak to DSL or ADSL, but apparently cable modems are "married" to the NIC card in the desktype box.. not sure if there is a PCMCIA NIC that the cable company would even HAVE a PCMCIA card for cable modems.. OTH, if you have a desktype box, hook IT up to the cable modem and then network to the cable modem through the desktype box.. Brad Burean wrote: > I'm looking at getting better internet service, what's involved to hook my > 560E up to cable or dsl? I need to get faster connections than the 19.200 > to 24.000 I'm getting now. > Booger > > http://communities.msn.com/CyberboogersFunThinkpads -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Sat Nov 11 00:37:40 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA16583 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:37:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22505; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:34:48 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22283; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:34:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22268; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:34:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.32 -> out2.prserv.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:34:44 -0500 Received: from bigkahoona2 ([32.102.157.170]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2000111105344020200gcmroe>; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 05:34:41 +0000 From: "David Lee" To: , "Brad Burean" Cc: "Thinkpad Users" Subject: RE: DSL or Cable Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:35:12 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3A0CD87D.F3D82834@gate.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: I had roadrunner cable modem service for some time. When they installed the service, I had a desktop computer.. they even supplied the 3com Ethernet PCI card... but when I switched to a laptop I bought a 3com 10Base-T RJ-45 PCMCIA card and it worked fine. The cable modem is an external box connected to your computer with ethernet, so in theory any PCMCIA/PC Card ethernet card will work. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 12:26 AM To: Brad Burean Cc: Thinkpad Users Subject: Re: DSL or Cable can't speak to DSL or ADSL, but apparently cable modems are "married" to the NIC card in the desktype box.. not sure if there is a PCMCIA NIC that the cable company would even HAVE a PCMCIA card for cable modems.. OTH, if you have a desktype box, hook IT up to the cable modem and then network to the cable modem through the desktype box.. Brad Burean wrote: > I'm looking at getting better internet service, what's involved to hook my > 560E up to cable or dsl? I need to get faster connections than the 19.200 > to 24.000 I'm getting now. > Booger > > http://communities.msn.com/CyberboogersFunThinkpads -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Sat Nov 11 02:27:02 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA17053 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 02:27:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28160; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 02:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 02:23:29 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27948; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 02:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27934; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 02:23:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011110723.CAA27934@cs.utk.edu> Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.32 -> out2.prserv.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 02:23:25 -0500 Received: from slip202-135-81-219.bg.th.ibm.net ([202.135.81.219]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2000111107232020200bukmie>; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 07:23:22 +0000 From: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Cc: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 14:20:14 +0700 Reply-To: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 600E screen display in OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: Presently a key DOS application I use (WordStar 7) displays in VGA mode. The program can display at 1024x768 VESA mode 104h (16 color). However, selecting this driver results in a mutilated display. I infer from exchanges on the WordStar newsgroup that the 600E is expecting to be driven in mode 105h (256 color). How can I determine the capabilities of the hardware e.g. to determine whether it is capable of mode 104h, and if so how can I select mode 104h? I welcome the answer and/or pointers to where this is all documented. I love this machine and want to get to know it better but am going mad looking at the jaggies in "Page Preview" mode. Jeffrey Race From cph Sat Nov 11 05:25:13 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id FAA17881 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 05:25:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA09016; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 05:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 05:17:51 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08383; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 05:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08370; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 05:17:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (207.69.200.226 -> blount.mail.mindspring.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 05:17:47 -0500 Received: from user-38ld6vm.dialup.mindspring.com (user-38ld6vm.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.155.246]) by blount.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA07220 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 05:17:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011111017.FAA07220@blount.mail.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 05:19:29 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <21197C35EDDFD311954C00508B9B111FA77426@MAILSF2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP760XL - WinOSR2 Resources List-Unsubscribe: I loaded Family Tree Maker on my TP760XL, which has 104 Mb and a swapper file set to expand up to a gig. The machine will soon lock due to lack of resources. What a dog piece of software written for a dog OS. Can anyone recommend a good resource monitor? Is there some way oher than the pitiful cntrl/alt/del to try and shut down rogue applications? OS/2 for example has a utility that will throw the user out of OS/2 to shut down the occassional loose thread. After just a few minutes of use, my machine is literally telling me to shut down applications due to lack of sufficient memory. Allan Ballard From cph Sat Nov 11 08:38:18 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id IAA19129 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:38:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15138; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:36:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:35:02 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14829; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:35:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14815; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:34:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (194.75.152.224 -> doggy.lineone.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:35:00 -0500 Received: from hicdbs (host212-140-17-94.btinternet.com [212.140.17.94]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA15930 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:34:50 GMT Message-Id: <200011111334.NAA15930@scooby.lineone.net> From: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" To: "thinkpad" Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:34:28 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <200011110723.CAA27934@cs.utk.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: 600E screen display in OS/2 List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id IAA15138 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id IAA19130 On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 14:20:14 +0700, Dr. Jeffrey Race wrote: >Presently a key DOS application I use (WordStar 7) displays >in VGA mode. The program can display at 1024x768 VESA mode >104h (16 color). However, selecting this driver results in a >mutilated display. I infer from exchanges on the WordStar >newsgroup that the 600E is expecting to be driven in mode >105h (256 color). >How can I determine the capabilities of the hardware e.g. to >determine whether it is capable of mode 104h, and if so how >can I select mode 104h? I welcome the answer and/or >pointers to where this is all documented. I love this >machine and want to get to know it better but am going mad >looking at the jaggies in "Page Preview" mode. A very good way to see the complete capabilities of your video display under OS/2 is to install SDD beta35. The SDD drivers will detect all resolutions, colour depth and refresh rates (in this case for external monitors). þ H.I.C. & D.B.S. þ OS/2 Warp þ Hellas þ þ ServerConfig þ ConfigEdit þ OS/2 UK UG þ From cph Sat Nov 11 10:55:59 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA19684 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:55:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23624; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:52:55 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23342; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:52:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9504.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23314; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:52:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9504.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.129.134 -> web9504.mail.yahoo.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:52:53 -0500 Message-ID: <20001111155252.11108.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.221.61.56] by web9504.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 07:52:52 PST Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 07:52:52 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: Re: DSL or Cable To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Jane, If you can't get DSL, have you looked into Gilat 2-way satellite internet service? They have demo units set up at Radio Shack under the title of high speed MSN. The performance is impressive. The MSN speed test showed a download speed of about 760 kbps. I have Sprint Broadband because I can't get DSL but it's slow as hell! Everytime I call them to complain, the customer service guy, who is in Tucson, always acts surprised to find out how slow it is in Phoenix. He says it's working great in Tucson! Do you think that if I went down there and punched the bastard in the nose it would improve the service? Maybe not, but I'd feel a lot better. --- Jane Loyless wrote: > At 12:29 PM 11/10/2000 -0800, Pencetera wrote: > > >There's several ways you can go depending on your > >situation. I recently replaced my DSL with cable. > With > >DSL I experienced too many interruptions - in this > >case it would periodically ignore any input for > about > >a minute then it was fine for awhile, very > annoying. > >Otherwise it was very fast. I had a USB modem that > >worked well. > > > > Since I don't cable or DSL yet, I have no direct > experience. Luckily for > you, that never stops me from offering anecdotal > stories for your benefit. > > My cousin lives in the New Orleans area. He got DSL > as soon as BellSouth > offered it and loved it. It was stable and fast. > Last November, he moved > across the river to an area with no DSL, so he got a > cable modem. He hated > it. It was unstable and slow compared to the DSL he > had had. A few months > later, BellSouth offered DSL in his new area, and he > signed up as soon as > they would let him. He loves it. > > My sister lives in Charlotte. As soon as BellSouth > offered DSL in her > area, she signed up. She is not exactly happy. > It's been fairly unstable > and seems slow to her. > > The moral to these stories is that which one will > satify you depends > entirely on your provider and the infrastructure. > > Jane ===== Sprint Broadband Direct Sucks, they should call it Sprint Narrowband! That is, when it's not DOWN! My old phone modem was faster! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ From cph Sat Nov 11 12:01:49 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA20212 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:01:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27720; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:58:36 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27461; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27448; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:58:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (171.71.163.11 -> sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:58:34 -0500 Received: from mira-sjcm-1.cisco.com (mira-sjcm-1.cisco.com [171.69.2.212]) by sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA01615 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:58:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from tricent (rtp-vpn-29.cisco.com [10.82.192.29]) by mira-sjcm-1.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with SMTP id ABF24877; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:58:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Tony Rice" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: RE: DSL or Cable Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:57:01 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: > can't speak to DSL or ADSL, but apparently cable modems are > "married" to the > NIC card in the desktype box.. > not sure if there is a PCMCIA NIC that the cable company would even HAVE a > PCMCIA card for cable modems.. I've heard stories about things like this. Some cable providers like to do this to prevent small businesses from using cable modems to provide access to 10 or 12 users (or more) at once. I've also heard stories about @Home in Northern California specifically disallowing use of VPN solutions via their cable modem service. Be sure to ask about these kinds of things before you commit to particular provider. I also use Road Runner and haven't run into any of these annoyances. I've got 2 desktops and a Thinkpad connected to a 4-port Linksys router/firewall and that is connected to the Surfboard modem that Time Warner provided me. Works like a charm, setup couldn't have been easier. Reliability is on par with DSL from my experiences. Installation was MUCH easier. I waited several months for my DSL order to actually get installed while the DSL provider and the local phone company pointed fingers at each other. I finally gave up, called the cable company and they had an installer out the following day. Customer service has been light years of what I'm used to from the cable company. Seems that the cable modem business (and support) is totally separate from cable TV, at least with my cable company. From cph Sat Nov 11 12:26:36 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA20301 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:26:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00342; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:23:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:22:23 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00147; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:22:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from passcal.passcal.nmt.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00134; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:22:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from passcal.passcal.nmt.edu (129.138.26.245 -> passcal.passcal.nmt.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:22:19 -0500 Received: from uniblab (dialin0.passcal.nmt.edu [129.138.26.200]) by passcal.passcal.nmt.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA10195 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:22:12 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <001001c04c03$ed697c20$c81a8a81@passcal.nmt.edu> From: "Bob Greschke" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: Fw: DSL or Cable Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:22:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: We are using this setup as a test bed for getting real-time data back from an array of 2000 seismic sensors, spread out across the US, that is just in the funding phase. We've had it running for a few months and it seems to work pretty well. I think that they are working towards a $70 per month fee that includes the data link and DirectTV-like service. Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve C." > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 08:52 > Subject: Re: DSL or Cable > > > > Jane, > > If you can't get DSL, have you looked into Gilat 2-way > > satellite internet service? They have demo units set > > up at Radio Shack under the title of high speed MSN. > > The performance is impressive. The MSN speed test > > showed a download speed of about 760 kbps. > > I have Sprint Broadband because I can't get DSL but > > it's slow as hell! Everytime I call them to complain, > > the customer service guy, who is in Tucson, always > > acts surprised to find out how slow it is in Phoenix. > > He says it's working great in Tucson! Do you think > > that if I went down there and punched the bastard in > > the nose it would improve the service? Maybe not, but > > I'd feel a lot better. > > From cph Sat Nov 11 13:35:15 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA20623 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:35:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05213; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:33:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:31:37 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04855; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:31:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from lima.epix.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04842; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:31:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from lima.epix.net (199.224.64.56 -> lima.epix.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:31:35 -0500 Received: from mohotta (itha-125ppp95.epix.net [199.224.125.95]) by lima.epix.net (8.10.1/8.10.1/2000080901/PL) with SMTP id eABIVXc28099 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:31:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011111831.eABIVXc28099@lima.epix.net> From: "Julian Thomas" Reply-to: "Julian Thomas" Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:31:07 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3A0CD87D.F3D82834@gate.net> Subject: Re: DSL or Cable X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 List-Unsubscribe: In <3A0CD87D.F3D82834@gate.net>, on 11/11/00 at 12:26 AM, Bill Morrow typed: >can't speak to DSL or ADSL, but apparently cable modems are "married" to >the NIC card in the desktype box.. Not really. There are 'internal' PCI cable modems, which are best avoided; the external ones will work with just about any 10bt NIC. I installed Roadrunner for the library (can't get it [or dsl] at home, alas) using an off-the-shelf PCI NIC. If you have a local network, you need either a cable router or a second NIC in the machine. -- Julian Thomas: jt@epix.net http://home.epix.net/~jt In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc http://www.possi.org -- -- "God made the integers, the rest is the work of man" Kronecker From cph Sat Nov 11 13:36:23 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA20633 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:36:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05424; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:34:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:32:59 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05025; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:32:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05011; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:32:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (206.141.239.142 -> mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:32:57 -0500 Received: from Techshop ([64.108.199.64]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20001111183256.FWIE1065.mailhost.chi.ameritech.net@Techshop>; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:32:56 -0600 Message-ID: <004601c04c0c$7176bf20$0201a8c0@ameritech.net> From: "Matt Winston" To: "Brad Burean" , "Thinkpad Users" References: <003a01c04b4b$020b4fa0$5300303f@oemcomputer> Subject: Re: DSL or Cable Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:23:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Since cable internet is not yet available in my area, I've used DSL since July. A Xircom combo ethernet/modem card (not real costly) works just fine. With DSL Wirespeed external ethernet modem and Linksys router, (4 and 8 port models available) all your computers enjoy high speed communication. The router acts as a DHCP server, and firewall to protect your network. Works with NT, W9x, and Warp. Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Burean" To: "Thinkpad Users" Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 1:18 PM Subject: DSL or Cable I'm looking at getting better internet service, what's involved to hook my 560E up to cable or dsl? I need to get faster connections than the 19.200 to 24.000 I'm getting now. Booger http://communities.msn.com/CyberboogersFunThinkpads From cph Sat Nov 11 13:41:36 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA20651 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:41:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06437; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:38:53 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06193; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:38:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from iso.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06180; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from iso.net (64.217.45.201 -> iso.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:38:50 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial48.fyvl.telxcom.net [64.217.44.176]) by iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA30432 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:38:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <3A0D9236.B3C31DA2@iso.net> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:38:46 -0600 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: IBM 20X Max Portable CD-Rom Drive References: <20001111155252.11108.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Only $84.00 'Nuff said Bill From cph Sat Nov 11 15:17:37 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA21217 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:17:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12203; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:16:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:14:25 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11979; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from lima.epix.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11966; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:14:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from lima.epix.net (199.224.64.56 -> lima.epix.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:14:24 -0500 Received: from mohotta (itha-125ppp95.epix.net [199.224.125.95]) by lima.epix.net (8.10.1/8.10.1/2000080901/PL) with SMTP id eABKELc07744 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:14:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011112014.eABKELc07744@lima.epix.net> From: "Julian Thomas" Reply-to: "Julian Thomas" Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:12:53 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <200011110656.BAA24031@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: A20m modem question X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 List-Unsubscribe: In <200011110656.BAA24031@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net>, on 11/11/00 at 01:56 AM, "Philip R. Mann" typed: >>The A20 internal modem seems to be a Winmodem - works in W98 but under OS2 >>doesn't even respond to an ATZ command. >> >>Are there any other modems that would fit internally, or do I need to go >>PCMCIA? >Have you checked if the Lucent drivers will work with it? At least >you'll have a built-in 33.6K modem that way. Going to the IBM thinkpad web site, looking in the device driver matrix for the T20 (which DOES have some os2 support), there is no OS2 driver for the Lucent minipci winmodem. Anyone have a better pointer? -- Julian Thomas: jt@epix.net http://home.epix.net/~jt In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc http://www.possi.org -- -- One virus, two virii, three viriii, four viriv ... (Rob Slade) - Nine virix (jt) From cph Sat Nov 11 15:45:09 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA21438 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:45:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14069; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:42:11 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13857; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:42:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13844; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:42:09 -0500 Received: from adsl-151-202-18-129.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net (adsl-151-202-18-129.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.202.18.129]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA11813; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:42:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011112042.PAA11813@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> From: "Philip R. Mann" To: "Julian Thomas" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:42:02 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Philip R. Mann" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <200011112014.eABKELc07744@lima.epix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: A20m modem question List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:12:53 -0500, Julian Thomas wrote: >Going to the IBM thinkpad web site, looking in the device driver matrix >for the T20 (which DOES have some os2 support), there is no OS2 driver for >the Lucent minipci winmodem. Anyone have a better pointer? http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-45XN9C.html?lang=en_US&page=brand&brand= root&doctype=&subtype=All seems to have 3 versions. ----- PRM ----- From cph Sat Nov 11 15:51:33 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA21490 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:51:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14848; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:49:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:48:11 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14564; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from lima.epix.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14551; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from lima.epix.net (199.224.64.56 -> lima.epix.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:48:10 -0500 Received: from mohotta (itha-125ppp97.epix.net [199.224.125.97]) by lima.epix.net (8.10.1/8.10.1/2000080901/PL) with SMTP id eABKm4c10526 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:48:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011112048.eABKm4c10526@lima.epix.net> From: "Julian Thomas" Reply-to: "Julian Thomas" Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:47:14 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <200011112042.PAA11813@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: A20m modem question X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 List-Unsubscribe: In <200011112042.PAA11813@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net>, on 11/11/00 at 03:42 PM, "Philip R. Mann" typed: >>Going to the IBM thinkpad web site, looking in the device driver matrix >>for the T20 (which DOES have some os2 support), there is no OS2 driver for >>the Lucent minipci winmodem. Anyone have a better pointer? >http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-45XN9C.html?lang=en_US&page=brand&brand= >root&doctype=&subtype=All Thanks. In the meantime I went to the Dr. Martinus site, found a Beta driver, downloaded and successfully installed it. -- Julian Thomas: jt@epix.net http://home.epix.net/~jt In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc http://www.possi.org -- -- Is fire supposed to shoot out of that thing? From cph Sat Nov 11 16:54:44 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA22041 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:54:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19351; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:51:14 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19080; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:51:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19066; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:51:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (208.147.154.56 -> fly.HiWAAY.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:51:12 -0500 Received: from dwreid (tnt10-216-180-65-237.dialup.hiwaay.net [216.180.65.237]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id eABLp9709985 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:51:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002901c04c29$7feecb20$ed41b4d8@dwreid> From: "David Reid" To: "ThinkPad-L" Subject: TP Ext. USB CD burners, any gripes? Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:50:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Greetings All, Looks like I need to replace my CDROM burner in my desktop and was considering the HP external USB writer as I could use it with my 770z. Any love/hate stories about USB external burners? dave From cph Sat Nov 11 17:13:27 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA22147 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:13:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21398; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:12:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:11:06 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21101; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:11:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtei2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21088; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:11:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtei2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.161 -> gtei2.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:11:04 -0500 Received: from tp1480 (adsl-141-152-140-201.bellatlantic.net [141.152.140.201]) by gtei2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA27037; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:10:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001001c04c2c$424935a0$5f94fea9@tp1480> From: "Jim Biggerstaff" To: "David Reid" , "ThinkPad-L" References: <002901c04c29$7feecb20$ed41b4d8@dwreid> Subject: Re: TP Ext. USB CD burners, any gripes? Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:10:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: I have a Sony USB 4 x 4 x 6 unit that I use with my i1480. It has performed very well. I'm tempted to say "flawlessly". It works under Win98SE and Win2K, I do most of my CD burning using the latter OS. The only real "problem" regards the speed of the unit. A 4x write speed is considered pretty slow these days, although it is fast enough for me. The 6x "regular CD reader" mode is terribly slow by current standards, but as a practical matter if speed is an issue I can use the internal DVD-ROM unit in the notebook. A minor benefit is that it is quite a bit easier to slip a CD into the external USB unit than into the slightly "fiddly" internal DVD-ROM. So I find myself using the USB unit for most things. This saves wear and tear on the internal DVD, which I regard as somewhat fragile. I don't think that there are faster USB units on the market - the speed limit is a function of the capability of the USB interface. BTW, if you want to experience painfully slow operation, try a USB hard drive. I got a "do it yourself" USB enclosure for $69 and put a 13GB hard drive in it. A nice way to put an extra hard drive into service, but horribly slow. Nice for backups when you can start a copy and walk away. HTH, jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Reid" To: "ThinkPad-L" Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 4:50 PM Subject: TP Ext. USB CD burners, any gripes? > Greetings All, > > Looks like I need to replace my CDROM burner in my desktop and was > considering the HP external USB writer as I could use it with my 770z. > > Any love/hate stories about USB external burners? > > > dave > From cph Sat Nov 11 17:27:34 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA22214 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:27:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23040; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:26:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:25:04 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22794; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:25:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22762; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:25:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:25:01 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA16758; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:24:41 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000d01c04c2e$2a76a8c0$7e62183f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Allan Ballard" , References: <200011111017.FAA07220@blount.mail.mindspring.net> Subject: Re: TP760XL - WinOSR2 Resources Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:24:30 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: There are several nice freeware programs that will give you back memory, for example freemem and rambooster. (I like and use these both, as sometimes one of these will run when the other won't.) There are no programs that will give you back "system resources". You can run the program with something like WinSolo, but then you can't do anything else at the same time. Another possibility is to run at at the lowest color depth your system allows, as this will free up a bit of resources. OSR2 had some memory leaks which were fixed by patches - have you brought your OS up to date? - David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Ballard" To: Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 12:19 AM Subject: TP760XL - WinOSR2 Resources > I loaded Family Tree Maker on my TP760XL, > which has 104 Mb and a swapper file set > to expand up to a gig. > > The machine will soon lock due to lack of > resources. > > What a dog piece of software written for a dog OS. > > Can anyone recommend a good resource monitor? > > Is there some way oher than the pitiful cntrl/alt/del to > try and shut down rogue applications? > > OS/2 for example has a utility that will throw the user > out of OS/2 to shut down the occassional loose thread. > > After just a few minutes of use, my machine is literally > telling me to shut down applications due to lack of > sufficient memory. > > Allan Ballard > > From cph Sat Nov 11 17:58:27 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA22386 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:58:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25983; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:55:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:53:19 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25639; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:53:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot29.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25611; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:53:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot29.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.49 -> pilot29.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:53:16 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (pm456-39.dialip.mich.net [198.110.21.97]) by pilot29.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eABMoPq34546 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:50:31 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001111174708.025be620@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:50:50 -0500 To: From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: TP Ext. USB CD burners, any gripes? In-Reply-To: <001001c04c2c$424935a0$5f94fea9@tp1480> References: <002901c04c29$7feecb20$ed41b4d8@dwreid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At USB speeds disk writes, be it to a rw hard disk or CDRW is going to be painful. It's really too bad that FireWire (now called IEEE 1384) which runs at 400Mbits/s isn't available on ThinkPads, which would solve the slow problems. What has been "fiddly" with your DVD drive? I've never actually used the DVD on my i1480, but I've used it a ton for CDs and its been flawless. Are there DVD-related problems I should know of? Thanks, STeve Andre' At 05:10 PM 11/11/00 -0500, Jim Biggerstaff wrote: >I have a Sony USB 4 x 4 x 6 unit that I use with my i1480. It has performed >very well. I'm tempted to say "flawlessly". It works under Win98SE and >Win2K, I do most of my CD burning using the latter OS. > >The only real "problem" regards the speed of the unit. A 4x write speed is >considered pretty slow these days, although it is fast enough for me. The >6x "regular CD reader" mode is terribly slow by current standards, but as a >practical matter if speed is an issue I can use the internal DVD-ROM unit in >the notebook. > >A minor benefit is that it is quite a bit easier to slip a CD into the >external USB unit than into the slightly "fiddly" internal DVD-ROM. So I >find myself using the USB unit for most things. This saves wear and tear on >the internal DVD, which I regard as somewhat fragile. > >I don't think that there are faster USB units on the market - the speed >limit is a function of the capability of the USB interface. > >BTW, if you want to experience painfully slow operation, try a USB hard >drive. I got a "do it yourself" USB enclosure for $69 and put a 13GB hard >drive in it. A nice way to put an extra hard drive into service, but >horribly slow. Nice for backups when you can start a copy and walk away. > >HTH, > >jim > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Reid" >To: "ThinkPad-L" >Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 4:50 PM >Subject: TP Ext. USB CD burners, any gripes? > > > > Greetings All, > > > > Looks like I need to replace my CDROM burner in my desktop and was > > considering the HP external USB writer as I could use it with my 770z. > > > > Any love/hate stories about USB external burners? > > > > > > dave > > From cph Sat Nov 11 21:28:50 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA23584 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:28:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12996; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:24:25 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12624; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:24:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12610; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.52 -> mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:24:22 -0500 Received: from thinkpad1 ([12.79.29.209]) by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001112022420.FEHC7142.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@thinkpad1>; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:24:20 +0000 Message-ID: <003b01c04c4f$e3398960$d11d4f0c@thinkpad1> From: "Donald Mak" To: "Tony Rice" , "Thinkpad" References: Subject: Re: DSL or Cable Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:25:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: > > can't speak to DSL or ADSL, but apparently cable modems are > > "married" to the > > NIC card in the desktype box.. Sure but... can't you then use some other software package to connect through the destop...? > I've also heard stories about @Home in Northern California specifically > disallowing use of VPN solutions via their cable modem service. Be sure to > ask about these kinds of things before you commit to particular provider. > Isn't @Home part of Comcast? Comcast has recently disallowed the use of VPN over the cable connections. We use VPN at work to dial in and this was a problem. When Comcast annouced this our company had Comcast extend the 'deadline' until we can figure out a solution. It seems that there is a @Pro service that will allow VPN.... From cph Sat Nov 11 21:52:28 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA23689 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:52:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15449; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:49:34 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15205; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:49:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtppop1pub.verizon.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15192; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:49:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtppop1pub.verizon.net (206.46.170.20 -> smtppop1pub.gte.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:49:33 -0500 Received: from evrtwa1-ar5-246-183.dsl.gtei.net (evrtwa1-ar5-246-183.dsl.gtei.net [4.35.246.183]) by smtppop1pub.verizon.net with SMTP for ; id UAA23308656 Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:44:41 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200011120244.UAA23308656@smtppop1pub.verizon.net> From: "LightSide/ Click" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 19:01:37 +0000 Reply-To: "LightSide/ Click" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP Ext. USB CD burners, any gripes? List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:10:53 -0500, Jim Biggerstaff wrote: >I have a Sony USB 4 x 4 x 6 unit that I use with my i1480. It has performed >very well. I'm tempted to say "flawlessly". It works under Win98SE and >Win2K, I do most of my CD burning using the latter OS. > >The only real "problem" regards the speed of the unit. A 4x write speed is >considered pretty slow these days, although it is fast enough for me. The >6x "regular CD reader" mode is terribly slow by current standards, but as a >practical matter if speed is an issue I can use the internal DVD-ROM unit in >the notebook. > >A minor benefit is that it is quite a bit easier to slip a CD into the >external USB unit than into the slightly "fiddly" internal DVD-ROM. So I >find myself using the USB unit for most things. This saves wear and tear on >the internal DVD, which I regard as somewhat fragile. > >I don't think that there are faster USB units on the market - the speed >limit is a function of the capability of the USB interface. > >BTW, if you want to experience painfully slow operation, try a USB hard >drive. I got a "do it yourself" USB enclosure for $69 and put a 13GB hard >drive in it. A nice way to put an extra hard drive into service, but >horribly slow. Nice for backups when you can start a copy and walk away. I don't know how related this is to Thinkpads but with so many devices coming out in USB format and USB in theory able to address 127 devices... I have to wonder about bandwidth. Does anyone use a lot of USB devices notice a drop in perfomance as they use more and more USB devices? Robert From cph Sat Nov 11 22:03:49 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA23736 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:03:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16811; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:02:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:00:45 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16569; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:00:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16549; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (205.216.137.2 -> pantano.theriver.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:00:42 -0500 Received: from theriver.com (a13.pm3-32.theriver.com [206.102.192.77]) by pantano.theriver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A6325CB5 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 19:59:20 -0700 (MST) Sender: root@theriver.com Message-ID: <3A0E08BE.941B5A63@theriver.com> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:04:30 -0700 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75C-CCK-MCD Caldera Systems OpenLinux [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Memory, Memory, and more Memory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: All: I am looking at increasing the size of the installed memory in my Thinkpad 600E because there is NO free memory available after loading Linus. I am looking at several manufacturers: Crucial, which is the cheapest, but I have no experience with them; Kingston, which is the middle cost and has a good reputation; Simple Technology, which is the most expensive, and I've used their products. Any advice on the manufacturers and their products. And I did look at Goldenram and they were, by far, way out of my price range. Thanks. James Mckenzie From cph Sat Nov 11 22:27:25 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA23858 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:27:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19315; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:25:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:24:10 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19047; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:24:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot11.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19034; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:24:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot11.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.31 -> pilot11.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:24:08 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (pm456-39.dialip.mich.net [198.110.21.97]) by pilot11.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eAC3N9N21314 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:23:15 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001111222057.0260e580@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:23:52 -0500 To: Thinkpad Mailing List From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Memory, Memory, and more Memory In-Reply-To: <3A0E08BE.941B5A63@theriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I have had zero problems with the Crucial memory I've ordered for my i1480, and some other i Series units. A friend ordered about 1000 pieces for various Dells and ThinkPads, with I think one bad part over a several month period. I like them, and ordered was a breeze on their web site. They even managed to get me the part the next day, even though I paid for 2nd day air. All in all, I'm impressed, and would not have any reluctance to order from them again. In fact, once I can find a buyer for my 64M sodimm, I'll be ordering another 128M part for my i1480. --STeve Andre' At 08:04 PM 11/11/00 -0700, James Mckenzie wrote: >All: > >I am looking at increasing the size of the installed memory in my >Thinkpad 600E because there is NO free memory available after loading >Linus. I am looking at several manufacturers: > >Crucial, which is the cheapest, but I have no experience with them; >Kingston, which is the middle cost and has a good reputation; >Simple Technology, which is the most expensive, and I've used their >products. > >Any advice on the manufacturers and their products. > >And I did look at Goldenram and they were, by far, way out of my price >range. > >Thanks. > >James Mckenzie From cph Sat Nov 11 22:44:14 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA23966 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:44:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21343; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:40:59 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21076; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:40:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot24.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21063; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:40:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot24.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.44 -> pilot24.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:40:57 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (pm456-39.dialip.mich.net [198.110.21.97]) by pilot24.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eAC3eaD75600 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:40:41 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001111223454.0260a1c0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:41:15 -0500 To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: TP Ext. USB CD burners, any gripes? In-Reply-To: <200011120244.UAA23308656@smtppop1pub.verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Oh yeah, you can see the performance drop. Initially I think the idea behind USB was for HID (human interface devices) purposes, which are inherently intermittent operations at the speed of a human. Doing just that, USB is fine. Unforunately, things like disks tend to get in the way of speedy operation, and I know someone who is a USB freak with lots of devices, and has shown me cases where his camera and disk gets in the way of the joystick game control device and causes the printer to act weirdly. I don't think many people try using 11 USB devices at once. ;-) Anyway, the USB II spec will bring the speed up to 500Mbits/sec, which will even be a little faster than FireWire's 400Mbits/sec. --STeve Andre' At 07:01 PM 11/11/00 +0000, LightSide/ Click wrote: [snip] >I don't know how related this is to Thinkpads but with so many devices >coming out in USB >format and USB in theory able to address 127 devices... I have to wonder >about bandwidth. > >Does anyone use a lot of USB devices notice a drop in perfomance as they >use more and more USB >devices? > >Robert From cph Sat Nov 11 22:50:47 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA24002 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:50:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22391; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:49:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:47:42 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22130; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22117; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:47:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (207.115.63.102 -> pimout3-ext.prodigy.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:47:36 -0500 Received: from CHUCK (adsl-63-198-207-205.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.198.207.205]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eAC3lYi118246 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:47:34 -0500 From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 19:47:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Memory, Memory, and more Memory Reply-to: chuck@ccncn.org Message-ID: <3A0DA241.25444.202041E@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3A0E08BE.941B5A63@theriver.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) List-Unsubscribe: On 11 Nov 2000, at 20:04, James Mckenzie wrote: > I am looking at increasing the size of the installed memory in my > Thinkpad 600E because there is NO free memory available after loading > Linus. I am looking at several manufacturers: > > Crucial, which is the cheapest, but I have no experience with them... I bought a 64mb from Crucial for my 600E and it has worked flawlessly. From cph Sat Nov 11 23:07:06 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA24064 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:07:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24223; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:05:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:03:35 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23959; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:03:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23935; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:03:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com (24.1.227.2 -> cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:03:20 -0500 Received: (from rutledge@localhost) by cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id VAA07705 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:03:14 -0700 From: "Shawn T. Rutledge" Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:03:14 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Memory, Memory, and more Memory Message-ID: <20001111210313.J2710@cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com> References: <3A0E08BE.941B5A63@theriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A0E08BE.941B5A63@theriver.com>; from os2support@theriver.com on Sat, Nov 11, 2000 at 08:04:30PM -0700 List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, Nov 11, 2000 at 08:04:30PM -0700, James Mckenzie wrote: > I am looking at increasing the size of the installed memory in my > Thinkpad 600E because there is NO free memory available after loading > Linus. I am looking at several manufacturers: More memory is always a good idea, but be aware that Linux will use up most of the free memory for various buffers (probably the largest being a disk cache). It dynamically manages these to try to optimize performance. So you seldom see much totally "free" memory available. Matter of fact, it even helps to swap out processes which are not in active use, just to make more memory available for cache; and the kernel will do that. Here's the top of the output of "top" on my main system right now: 8:54pm up 2 days, 21:08, 7 users, load average: 2.22, 2.11, 2.04 105 processes: 102 sleeping, 3 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 18.2% user, 7.9% system, 73.8% nice, 0.0% idle Mem: 127816K av, 122648K used, 5168K free, 28984K shrd, 2620K buff Swap: 130748K av, 55652K used, 75096K free 41876K cached Note that over 1/3 of available memory is "cached". (This system is SMP and I'm running two threads of distributed.net, thus the high load average.) Now here is another box which is lightly loaded by comparison: 8:58pm up 17:47, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00 40 processes: 39 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 0.1% user, 0.0% system, 0.0% nice, 32.7% idle Mem: 30996K av, 30116K used, 880K free, 20196K shrd, 10772K buff Swap: 73076K av, 3576K used, 69500K free 8040K cached Over half of the memory is being taken up by buffers and caches, and there is some swap in use, even though it wouldn't really be necessary because this box is doing so little. When your swap gets somewhere near as much as your physical memory, or you notice it wasting time to swap stuff in and out and being slow as a result, then you know you are in dire need of more memory. -- _______ Shawn T. Rutledge / KB7PWD ecloud@bigfoot.com (_ | |_) http://www.bigfoot.com/~ecloud kb7pwd@kb7pwd.ampr.org __) | | \________________________________________________________________ Free long distance at http://www.bigredwire.com/me/RefTrack?id=USA063420 From cph Sat Nov 11 23:19:58 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA24112 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:19:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25531; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:16:11 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25328; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:16:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtei1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25311; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:16:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtei1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.159 -> gtei1.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:16:09 -0500 Received: from tp1480 (adsl-141-152-140-202.bellatlantic.net [141.152.140.202]) by gtei1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA11497; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:15:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000001c04c5f$40c99250$5f94fea9@tp1480> From: "Jim Biggerstaff" To: , "STeve Andre'" References: <002901c04c29$7feecb20$ed41b4d8@dwreid> <5.0.0.25.0.20001111174708.025be620@pilot.msu.edu> Subject: Re: TP Ext. USB CD burners, any gripes? Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:09:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > What has been "fiddly" with your DVD drive? I've never actually used the > DVD on my i1480, but I've used it a ton for CDs and its been flawless. > Are there DVD-related problems I should know of? > Not to worry, mine has worked fine as well, and does a pretty good job playing DVD's. I just personally consider the CDR-OM/DVD-ROM units in notebook computers to be a little bit physically fragile, they flex when you press a CD onto the spindle, etc. So I am careful to support the unit underneath with one hand when I put a CD on the spindle with the other hand, and it is a little awkward - "fiddly" if you are as careful as I am. It is much easier to just press the button on the USB, the tray pops out, and I drop the CD in. Unless I am installing something pretty big the speed of the USB CD is quite adequate Another nice thing about the USB CD is that you can make CD copies from the DVD-ROM to the USB CD. Actually, I was just tickled pink with the Sony USB CDROM. It is quite a substantial heavy unit, in a steel case, unlike the more common plastic encased peripherals. From cph Sun Nov 12 00:28:01 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA24671 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:28:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00303; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:26:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:24:40 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00008; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:24:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp122.fibertel.com.ar (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29988; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp122.fibertel.com.ar (24.232.0.122) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:24:32 -0500 Received: from notebooklr (24.232.6.20) by smtp122.fibertel.com.ar (5.1.046) id 3A0043D0002FB1C1; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:23:38 -0300 From: "Leandro Rzezak" To: Cc: Subject: RE: 128MB update causes Win2k to crash on 770ed (9549-5AU) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:24:40 -0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <3A0CD770.1156AAE7@gate.net> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I ran the www.simmtester.com tests and it passed them!! With the 192MB. Went to Win2k and it crashed again. I'll reinstall Win2k toomorrow. GoldenRam part no. is 4901637-2. BTW: I spoke with GD tech supp and they gave me an RMA and asked me to send the module for an exchange. Leandro -----Mensaje original----- De: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] Enviado el: Sabado, 11 de Noviembre de 2000 02:22 Para: Leandro Rzezak CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Asunto: Re: 128MB update causes Win2k to crash on 770ed (9549-5AU) what is the part number on the goldenram part... Leandro Rzezak wrote: > Took out the 32MB module provided with the notebook and installed the 128meg > part. > Win2k didn't work. > > I also ran the tests with both parts installed and they passed successfully. > > Leandro > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] > Enviado el: Viernes, 10 de Noviembre de 2000 05:19 > Para: Leandro Rzezak > CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Asunto: Re: 128MB update causes Win2k to crash on 770ed (9549-5AU) > > goldenram has worldwide, lifetime warranty.. > did you try just the 128meg part..? > have you run a memory test..?? > > Leandro Rzezak wrote: > > > With the GoldenRam 128MB SD RAM module (that worked fine giving me 192MB > of > > oxigen on Windows NT 4.0) Windows 2000 gives me the blue screen 2 or 3 > > minutes after booting. > > > > It shows the blue screen of death for 1 second and it reboots. I could > note > > that the exceptions are all different. The problem happens every time I > use > > Win2k with the module. > > > > Removing the module (leaving only the original 64MB) Win2k works ok. > > > > I gave lattest BIOS, and Win2k with SP1. > > > > I also had to take out the module to install win2k because it didn't want > to > > install correctly. > > > > Any ideas? Any experience? Please give me some ligth. > > > > Thank you in advance, > > > > Leandro > > > > PD: Please remember that the module worked ok with WinNT4. > > -- > --- > > Happy trails... > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net > open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? > sic transit gloria -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Sun Nov 12 00:38:51 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA24808 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:38:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01559; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:37:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:35:50 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01333; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:35:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot25.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01319; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:35:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot25.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.45 -> pilot25.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:35:48 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (pm456-39.dialip.mich.net [198.110.21.97]) by pilot25.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eAC5ZPx33118 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:35:30 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001112003243.025c4210@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:35:59 -0500 To: Thinkpad Mailing List From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: RE: 128MB update causes Win2k to crash on 770ed (9549-5AU) In-Reply-To: References: <3A0CD770.1156AAE7@gate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I think you've had some really weird internal timing problem. That the ram passed a test doesn't surprise me--most tests look for holes in memory, but can't find the really flakey stuff. Assmuming that your memory is in fact the correct type (which is likely is), I'd bet that there is just something about that ram and your computer. I have a user with an i1720 ThinkPad which refused its 64M upgrade I got for it. That memory worked in my i1451 and ultimately I got that ram. It just would not work in that i1720. Weird, but it happens. Good luck with the exchange. --STeve Andre' At 02:24 AM 11/12/00 -0300, Leandro Rzezak wrote: >I ran the www.simmtester.com tests and it passed them!! With the 192MB. >Went to Win2k and it crashed again. >I'll reinstall Win2k toomorrow. > >GoldenRam part no. is 4901637-2. BTW: I spoke with GD tech supp and they >gave me an RMA and asked me to send the module for an exchange. > >Leandro > >-----Mensaje original----- >De: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] >Enviado el: Sabado, 11 de Noviembre de 2000 02:22 >Para: Leandro Rzezak >CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Asunto: Re: 128MB update causes Win2k to crash on 770ed (9549-5AU) > > >what is the part number on the goldenram part... > >Leandro Rzezak wrote: > > > Took out the 32MB module provided with the notebook and installed the >128meg > > part. > > Win2k didn't work. > > > > I also ran the tests with both parts installed and they passed >successfully. > > > > Leandro > > > > -----Mensaje original----- > > De: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] > > Enviado el: Viernes, 10 de Noviembre de 2000 05:19 > > Para: Leandro Rzezak > > CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Asunto: Re: 128MB update causes Win2k to crash on 770ed (9549-5AU) > > > > goldenram has worldwide, lifetime warranty.. > > did you try just the 128meg part..? > > have you run a memory test..?? > > > > Leandro Rzezak wrote: > > > > > With the GoldenRam 128MB SD RAM module (that worked fine giving me 192MB > > of > > > oxigen on Windows NT 4.0) Windows 2000 gives me the blue screen 2 or 3 > > > minutes after booting. > > > > > > It shows the blue screen of death for 1 second and it reboots. I could > > note > > > that the exceptions are all different. The problem happens every time I > > use > > > Win2k with the module. > > > > > > Removing the module (leaving only the original 64MB) Win2k works ok. > > > > > > I gave lattest BIOS, and Win2k with SP1. > > > > > > I also had to take out the module to install win2k because it didn't >want > > to > > > install correctly. > > > > > > Any ideas? Any experience? Please give me some ligth. > > > > > > Thank you in advance, > > > > > > Leandro > > > > > > PD: Please remember that the module worked ok with WinNT4. > > > > -- > > --- > > > > Happy trails... > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > WEB page http://thinkpads.com > > e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net > > open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? > > sic transit gloria > >-- >--- > >Happy trails... > >** Bill Morrow ** :-) >WEB page http://thinkpads.com >e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net >open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? >sic transit gloria From cph Sun Nov 12 10:00:53 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA05188 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 10:00:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05828; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:59:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:54:43 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05343; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:54:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange.optics.Arizona.EDU (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05330; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:54:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange.optics.Arizona.EDU (128.196.206.226 -> exchange.optics.arizona.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:54:41 -0500 Received: from spectra.opt-sci.arizona.edu ([150.135.52.9]) by exchange.optics.Arizona.EDU with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id WAHQHCLD; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 07:54:38 -0700 Received: from europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU [150.135.52.30]) by spectra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA08642 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 07:54:38 -0700 (MST) Received: (from stu@localhost) by europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) id HAA01227 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 07:54:38 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 07:54:38 -0700 (MST) From: Stuart Biggar Message-Id: <200011121454.HAA01227@europa.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: memory usage in UNIX X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: About getting more RAM as there was minimal free RAM while running Linux. I'm not very familiar with Linux but I do run Sun Solaris x86 version 7 on a ThinkPad 770E with 224 MB of RAM. After viewing a subset of a large satellite image file (HDF format of a bit more than 500 MB), the output of top gives: last pid: 800; load averages: 0.01, 0.10, 0.14 07:37:00 82 processes: 78 sleeping, 3 zombie, 1 on cpu CPU states: 99.0% idle, 0.4% user, 0.6% kernel, 0.0% iowait, 0.0% swap Memory: 223M real, 21M free, 45M swap in use, 642M swap free The system was doing nothing at the time other than running ppp, X, and some shells. The image processing application had been exited - the memory has not yet been added to the free list. We get similar free RAM results on Solaris 7 SPARC. One dual processor server with 2 GB of RAM shows little free RAM after it has been running for a while. However, the performance is quite good. Most UNIX systems don't free memory until it is needed. If your machine isn't paging to disk too much, you probably don't need more RAM. The minimum depends on the OS and the applications you plan on running. With Solaris, you probably would want a minimum of 128 MB with additional for any memory hog applications. Linux is probably somewhat less demanding, especially if you are not running CDE. RAM not needed by the applications can be used to cache the filesystem (and other things) so additional RAM wouldn't hurt (except for your pocketbook). Stuart From cph Sun Nov 12 11:42:10 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA07221 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:42:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13994; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:40:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:38:33 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13680; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:38:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13661; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:38:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.30 -> cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:38:21 -0500 Received: from mikhail - 63.20.201.134 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 08:38:12 -0800 Message-ID: <001501c04cc7$a2ff0a00$86c9143f@mikhail> From: "Liliya" To: Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:43:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C04C9D.B78B25A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C04C9D.B78B25A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I need MultyPORT II (10H40210 for myThinkPad 701C. 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------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C04C9D.B78B25A0-- From cph Sun Nov 12 14:21:09 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA08215 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:21:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27423; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:15:53 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27076; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:15:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.boston.juno.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27063; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:15:52 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from m1.boston.juno.com (63.211.172.64 -> m1.boston.juno.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:15:52 -0500 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"Z4sRmP4V5DZKhyOUz4u6NmQ9GE8wsqvNaGMjN4dAFaD9eK3NZq+DAw=="> Received: (from evenmere@juno.com) by m1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id FNPTRBKX; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:15:19 EST To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 13:19:04 -0600 Subject: Pen tablet pens Message-ID: <20001112.131905.-1848783.2.evenmere@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5-8 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 List-Unsubscribe: I've got a IBM 730T Pen Tablet. The stylus came with it and works fine, but I wanted to buy an extra. I've tried the palm pilot pens, and apparently they don't use the same mechanism. The 730 manual indicates the pen works on some sort of electromagnetic principal. Do you know of any sources for a new stylus that would work? I know I can buy used ones on e-bay, but I wanted one that was a bit more spiffy. Thanks James Stoddard From cph Sun Nov 12 16:47:44 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA09122 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:47:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11668; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:46:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:41:25 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11025; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:41:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from coppi.networktest.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11010; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:41:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from coppi.networktest.com (209.187.11.98 -> nyc-28-h-98.nyc.dsl.cerfnet.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:41:18 -0500 Received: from miles ([192.168.1.2]) by coppi.networktest.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA30710 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:49:11 -0600 From: "David Newman" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: RE: DSL or Cable Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:41:10 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <003b01c04c4f$e3398960$d11d4f0c@thinkpad1> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: > Isn't @Home part of Comcast? Comcast has recently disallowed the use > of VPN over the cable connections. Other way around; Comcast is part of @Home/Excite. And the no-VPN policy applies only to Comcast customer's, not (yet) all of @Home/Excite's much larger network. I've also heard that the no-VPN ban will be tricky to enforce. It's simple enough to fool whatever filters Comcast uses (though I'm not advocating this) and it's been said that Comcast probably won't go after the small-time offender like someone who occasionally works from home. It is a remarkably stupid policy; it's as if (warning: fact-free example) Earthlink said you can't run Realplayer if you have their dial-up service. As for cable-vs.-DSL: I'm a relatively happy DSL user. Among the pluses: it's MUCH faster than dial-up. The bandwidth is relatively constant (unlike cable modems, which are a shared-access medium like plain-vanilla Ethernet; the more users on a cable ring, the less bandwidth you get). After a remarkably bad setup period, the support from my provider (AT&T) has been fairly good. The DSL downsides: I'd hardly call it an "always-on" service. The Redback box in my local central office locks up about every 20 days or so, requiring me to call AT&T and get them to call Verizon and/or Covad to reset it. And because Covad and Northpoint are overextended, all the horror stories about lengthy provisioning delays are true; in my case I ordered multiple locations at once and it still took 2.5 months to get up an running. Dunno whether cable provisioning is any faster. dn From cph Sun Nov 12 19:28:12 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA09795 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:28:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29839; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:26:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:22:22 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29450; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.aros.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29436; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:22:19 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mail.aros.net (207.173.16.20 -> mail.aros.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:22:20 -0500 Received: from kalynda (dm6-14.slc.aros.net [207.173.24.14]) by mail.aros.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA33443 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:22:12 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011130022.RAA33443@mail.aros.net> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:15:45 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpads/OS2/MWave X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.61 b61 List-Unsubscribe: I am using a 760ED, and would like to enable the Mwave stuff, but when I first install OS/2, or do any selective installs, I get a message "error, audio multimedia cannot be installed" I have been unable to use the Mwave with this 760ED, or my 760E. I may be goofing up elsewhere, but this error is not metioned in any documentation that I have seen in the Mwave files, so I would appreciate it if anyone can confirm that this is supposed to happen. I am of the idea that I am supposed to be able to install the base multimedia install, according to the docs, and an error I get during mwave file installs is that mminstal cannot be found, which is no shock, since I wasn't able to install it. Without delving into the complexities of the mwave install, is the error message I get from OS/2 during install something I should expect? Much obliged for any answers. Regards, John From cph Sun Nov 12 20:45:23 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA10409 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:45:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04804; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:42:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:39:02 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04467; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04422; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:38:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (194.75.152.224 -> doggy.lineone.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:38:45 -0500 Received: from hicdbs (sehh@host62-6-11-42.btinternet.com [62.6.11.42]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA21001 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 01:38:34 GMT Message-Id: <200011130138.BAA21001@scooby.lineone.net> From: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" To: "thinkpad" Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 01:38:16 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <200011130022.RAA33443@mail.aros.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Thinkpads/OS2/MWave List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id UAA04804 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id UAA10410 On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:15:45 -0700, jbrush@aros.net wrote: >I am using a 760ED, and would like to enable the Mwave stuff, but when I >first install OS/2, or do any selective installs, I get a message "error, >audio multimedia cannot be installed" >I have been unable to use the Mwave with this 760ED, or my 760E. >I may be goofing up elsewhere, but this error is not metioned in any >documentation that I have seen in the Mwave files, so I would appreciate >it if anyone can confirm that this is supposed to happen. >I am of the idea that I am supposed to be able to install the base >multimedia install, according to the docs, and an error I get during mwave >file installs is that mminstal cannot be found, which is no shock, since I >wasn't able to install it. >Without delving into the complexities of the mwave install, is the error >message I get from OS/2 during install something I should expect? >Much obliged for any answers. Please give the details of your system: OS/2 version, harddrive partitions etc. Did you ever have MMOS2 installed before? Is there an \MMOS2 directory at your boot drive? btw, do not install the IBM provided drivers for the sound. They are outdated and have many bugs. The latest version of the drivers is the Crystal ones. (the IBM drivers are just a re-packaged version of the Crystal drivers, but the IBM ones haven't been updated for two years, although the Crystal drivers where last updated just 1-2 months ago). þ H.I.C. & D.B.S. þ OS/2 Warp þ Hellas þ þ ServerConfig þ ConfigEdit þ OS/2 UK UG þ From cph Sun Nov 12 21:43:23 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA10731 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:43:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08967; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:41:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:39:48 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08602; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:39:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.aros.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08568; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:39:22 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mail.aros.net (207.173.16.20 -> mail.aros.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:39:22 -0500 Received: from kalynda (dm8-105.slc.aros.net [207.173.24.105]) by mail.aros.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA56562 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:39:20 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011130239.TAA56562@mail.aros.net> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:17:00 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <200011130138.BAA21001@scooby.lineone.net> Subject: Re: Thinkpads/OS2/MWave X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.61 b61 List-Unsubscribe: >Please give the details of your system: OS/2 version, harddrive >partitions etc. Warp4. 6 gig drive. Updated BIOS, c:=1gig for w98 d:=1 gig for Warp4 >Did you ever have MMOS2 installed before? Is there an \MMOS2 directory at >your boot drive? I have never installed MMOS2 on either thinkpad because when I do the install, I get an error message that says audion cannot be installed, and therefore, NO mm support is ever installed. This is the problem I am having. I just wonder if everyone who installs warp gets this error? I have been through the install disks detail for detail on my 760E which is configured the same way, and Mwave never works, always fails when I click the mwave icon after what looks like a good install. When I installed Warp4 onto the 760ED, it provided the same message at the very start of the CD install, I get an error that no multimedia audio can be installed. No point proceeding past that error, unless it is considered normal. >btw, do not install the IBM provided drivers for the sound. They are >outdated and have many bugs. The latest version of the drivers is the >Crystal ones. (the IBM drivers are just a re-packaged version of the >Crystal drivers, but the IBM ones haven't been updated for two years, >although the Crystal drivers where last updated just 1-2 months ago). Well, you lost me here with this one, but until I get past the error, I won't install any audio from anywhere :-) Thanks for the help. Regards, John From cph Sun Nov 12 21:43:43 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA10736 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:43:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08963; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:41:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:39:21 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08551; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:39:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.aros.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08538; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:39:19 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mail.aros.net (207.173.16.20 -> mail.aros.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:39:19 -0500 Received: from kalynda (dm8-105.slc.aros.net [207.173.24.105]) by mail.aros.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA56552 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:39:17 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011130239.TAA56552@mail.aros.net> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:30:00 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Copying Laptop Drives X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.61 b61 List-Unsubscribe: As long as I am showing my ignorance elsewhere, I guess I might ask about copy laptop drives. I thought I would get one of those adapters like on ebay that let me put the smaller drives into my tower so I can copy it all and burn a CD. I am wondering if anyone has done this, and how you get around the problem of booting up with two primary partitions enabled. It would seem to me that a conflict would hang the system when it tries to boot. Am I up in the night on this one? How can I take my laptop drive, and install it into my tower with the adapter, and still boot my normal OS with the laptop drive also as a bootable partition? Thanks much, as usual. John From cph Sun Nov 12 22:01:47 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA10837 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:01:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11203; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:59:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:57:33 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11015; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:57:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11002; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:57:31 -0500 Received: from p3-1ghz (client-151-204-210-110.delval.dialup.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.110]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA23693 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:57:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001112215805.02781cc0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:58:13 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: They have 36 2629HWU's in stock @ Computers4Sure: http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?ProductId=111530&affid=874&adid=874 They are reliable, their inventory is updated almost immediately and I've used them before. Price = $4309.00 Get 'em while they're hot! :) Mark From cph Sun Nov 12 22:27:06 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA10962 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:27:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13594; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:25:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:23:13 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13298; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13285; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:23:12 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.49 -> mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:23:12 -0500 Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.135.30]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001113032307.JXZG13638.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 03:23:07 +0000 Received: from [24.190.235.208] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 03:23:06 +0000 To: Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Copying Laptop Drives Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 03:23:06 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 2 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: scosgt@att.net Message-Id: <20001113032307.JXZG13638.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> List-Unsubscribe: A better way would be to use two network cards and do the backup that way, OR Use a laplink cable and Direct Cable Connection that is built right into W95 and above > As long as I am showing my ignorance elsewhere, I guess I might ask about > copy laptop drives. > > I thought I would get one of those adapters like on ebay that let me put > the smaller drives into my tower so I can copy it all and burn a CD. > > I am wondering if anyone has done this, and how you get around the problem > of booting up with two primary partitions enabled. It would seem to me > that a conflict would hang the system when it tries to boot. Am I up in > the night on this one? > > How can I take my laptop drive, and install it into my tower with the > adapter, and still boot my normal OS with the laptop drive also as a > bootable partition? > > > Thanks much, as usual. > > John > From cph Sun Nov 12 22:36:51 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA11050 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:36:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14542; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:33:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:32:02 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14273; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:32:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14246; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:32:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.48 -> mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:32:00 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer ([12.79.12.188]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001113033159.UTJW14078.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@oemcomputer>; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 03:31:59 +0000 Message-ID: <002201c04d22$7d40cf00$bc0c4f0c@oemcomputer> Reply-To: "Simon Bryquer" From: "Simon Bryquer" To: , "Mark Bell" Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:32:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: eCost.com has them for $4,073.99. http://www.ecost.com/ SCB -----Original Message----- From: Mark Bell To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Sunday, November 12, 2000 10:00 PM Subject: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) >They have 36 2629HWU's in stock @ Computers4Sure: > >http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?ProductId=111530&affid=874&adid=8 74 > >They are reliable, their inventory is updated almost immediately and I've >used them before. > >Price = $4309.00 > >Get 'em while they're hot! :) > >Mark > > > From cph Sun Nov 12 22:46:31 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA11089 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:46:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15839; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:44:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:43:05 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15564; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:43:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from cochiti.nm.org (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15513; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:42:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011130342.WAA15513@cs.utk.edu> Received: from cochiti.nm.org (129.121.1.13 -> cochiti.nm.org) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:42:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 68924 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2000 03:42:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jmsthinkpad600x) (198.59.120.83) by cochiti.nm.org with SMTP; 13 Nov 2000 03:42:34 -0000 From: "J. Michael Stolp" To: "Thinkpad List" , "jbrush@aros.net" Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:43:30 -0700 Reply-To: "J. Michael Stolp" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Copying Laptop Drives List-Unsubscribe: ---------------- Original Message ---------------- jbrush@aros.net wrote on Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:30:00 -0700: As long as I am showing my ignorance elsewhere, I guess I might ask about copy laptop drives. I thought I would get one of those adapters like on ebay that let me put the smaller drives into my tower so I can copy it all and burn a CD. I am wondering if anyone has done this, and how you get around the problem of booting up with two primary partitions enabled. It would seem to me that a conflict would hang the system when it tries to boot. Am I up in the night on this one? How can I take my laptop drive, and install it into my tower with the adapter, and still boot my normal OS with the laptop drive also as a bootable partition? Thanks much, as usual. John ----------------------- End of Original Message ----------------------- John, I use a bit different approach with my TP600X running Win2k. It has a 12gb hard drive. Get a second hard drive and an adapter to put it in the ultrabay. The adapter costs $30 at PC Connection. Make a Norton Ghost boot disk. Use Ghost to clone the first hard drive to the second. Takes under 15 minutes to clone the 12gb drive. -- Warmest Regards. Mike J. Michael Stolp, C.P.A., Managing Partner Registered Investment Advisor Homepage http://www.taxsavings.com Xelan, The Economic Association of Health Professionals P.O. 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Via De Ventura, Suite L-200 Scottsdale, Arizona 85258 Phone 480/998-5100 * Fax 505/856-1197 From cph Sun Nov 12 22:48:06 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA11098 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:48:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16231; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:46:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:44:29 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15691; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:44:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from charon.amdahl.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15639; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from charon.amdahl.com (159.199.101.1 -> charon.amdahl.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:43:42 -0500 Received: from charon.amdahl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by charon.amdahl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15819 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:43:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from minerva.amdahl.com (minerva.amdahl.com [129.212.33.25]) by charon.amdahl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA15815 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:43:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from cliffy.eng.amdahl.com by minerva.amdahl.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #9) id m13vAVh-0006y0C; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:42 PST Received: from ladybug.M2_BLDG by cliffy.eng.amdahl.com (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id TAA28980; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:44:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from czs00@localhost) by ladybug.M2_BLDG (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id TAA12451; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:57:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20001112195705.36142@eng.amdahl.com> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:57:05 -0800 From: Serenella Ciongoli To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) References: <4.2.0.58.20001112215805.02781cc0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20001112215805.02781cc0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net>; from Mark Bell on Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 09:58:13PM -0500 List-Unsubscribe: IBM sells the same model at $4199, with "Availability = CAll": http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/CategoryDisplay?lang=en_US&cntry=840&cntrfnbr=1&cgmenbr=1&smrfnbr=9801&cgrfnbr=2049169 and sparco.com, with 36 available, sells them at $4197: http://www.sparco.com/cats/00.11.IBM_-_THINKPADS.html Serenella Ciongoli On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 09:58:13PM -0500, Mark Bell wrote: > They have 36 2629HWU's in stock @ Computers4Sure: > > http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?ProductId=111530&affid=874&adid=874 > > They are reliable, their inventory is updated almost immediately and I've > used them before. > > Price = $4309.00 > > Get 'em while they're hot! :) > > Mark From cph Mon Nov 13 01:45:21 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA12226 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 01:45:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29390; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 01:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 01:37:35 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29105; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 01:37:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29091; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 01:37:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 01:37:28 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-259.gate.net [199.227.173.5]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA111218; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 01:36:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3A0F8C12.8C0E03E1@gate.net> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 01:37:07 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scosgt@att.net CC: jbrush@aros.net, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Copying Laptop Drives References: <20001113032307.JXZG13638.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: best is to backup to a LAN.. next duplicate the HDD using a duplicate HDD in the ultrabay.. last choice is to use an adapter on your desktype box... multiple active drives are ok, addressing will select the boot device.. for reassurance, put the notebook drive on the second IDE channel on the desktype box.. scosgt@att.net wrote: > A better way would be to use two network cards and do > the backup that way, OR > Use a laplink cable and Direct Cable Connection that is > built right into W95 and above > > As long as I am showing my ignorance elsewhere, I guess I might ask about > > copy laptop drives. > > > > I thought I would get one of those adapters like on ebay that let me put > > the smaller drives into my tower so I can copy it all and burn a CD. > > > > I am wondering if anyone has done this, and how you get around the problem > > of booting up with two primary partitions enabled. It would seem to me > > that a conflict would hang the system when it tries to boot. Am I up in > > the night on this one? > > > > How can I take my laptop drive, and install it into my tower with the > > adapter, and still boot my normal OS with the laptop drive also as a > > bootable partition? > > > > > > Thanks much, as usual. > > > > John > > -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Mon Nov 13 04:35:35 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id EAA13160 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:35:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06617; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:34:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:32:50 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06497; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06484; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:32:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:32:49 -0500 Received: from p3-1ghz (client-151-204-210-21.delval.dialup.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.21]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA26451 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:32:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001113043127.02941f00@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:33:34 -0500 To: From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) In-Reply-To: <002201c04d22$7d40cf00$bc0c4f0c@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Er, but they're back ordered?! If we were going by price and availability, then both conditions must be met before a valid comparison can be made! :) I can offer HWU's for $3800.00, but if I have no stock, it is irrelevant for those who want one now and now the shortages IBM is facing and how the supply chains are seeing them at a trickle if at all. Mark At 10:32 PM 11/12/00 -0500, Simon Bryquer wrote: >eCost.com has them for $4,073.99. > >http://www.ecost.com/ > > >SCB > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Bell >To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >Date: Sunday, November 12, 2000 10:00 PM >Subject: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) > > > >They have 36 2629HWU's in stock @ Computers4Sure: > > > >http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?ProductId=111530&affid=874&adid=8 >74 > > > >They are reliable, their inventory is updated almost immediately and I've > >used them before. > > > >Price = $4309.00 > > > >Get 'em while they're hot! :) > > > >Mark > > > > > > From cph Mon Nov 13 04:38:11 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id EAA13169 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:38:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07096; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:36:13 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06872; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06859; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:36:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:36:12 -0500 Received: from p3-1ghz (client-151-204-210-21.delval.dialup.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.21]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA27832 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:36:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001113043523.02b8be10@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:36:58 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) In-Reply-To: <20001112195705.36142@eng.amdahl.com> References: <4.2.0.58.20001112215805.02781cc0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> <4.2.0.58.20001112215805.02781cc0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Sweet, thanks for the heads up! I'm trying to inform consumers who are after these models and to point them to vendors that actually have them in stock. I had never even heard of sparco.com, thanks! Mark At 07:57 PM 11/12/00 -0800, Serenella Ciongoli wrote: >IBM sells the same model at $4199, with "Availability = CAll": > >http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/CategoryDisplay?lang=en_US&cn >try=840&cntrfnbr=1&cgmenbr=1&smrfnbr=9801&cgrfnbr=2049169 > >and sparco.com, with 36 available, sells them at $4197: > >http://www.sparco.com/cats/00.11.IBM_-_THINKPADS.html > >Serenella Ciongoli > >On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 09:58:13PM -0500, Mark Bell wrote: > > They have 36 2629HWU's in stock @ Computers4Sure: > > > > > http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?ProductId=111530&affid=874&adid=874 > > > > They are reliable, their inventory is updated almost immediately and I've > > used them before. > > > > Price = $4309.00 > > > > Get 'em while they're hot! :) > > > > Mark From cph Mon Nov 13 04:42:28 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id EAA13204 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:42:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07632; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:41:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:40:10 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07451; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:40:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07438; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:40:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:40:09 -0500 Received: from p3-1ghz (client-151-204-210-21.delval.dialup.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.21]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA29349 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:40:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001113043930.02b92e10@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:40:55 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) In-Reply-To: <20001112195705.36142@eng.amdahl.com> References: <4.2.0.58.20001112215805.02781cc0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> <4.2.0.58.20001112215805.02781cc0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 07:57 PM 11/12/00 -0800, Serenella Ciongoli wrote: >IBM sells the same model at $4199, with "Availability = CAll": > >http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/CategoryDisplay?lang=en_US&cn >try=840&cntrfnbr=1&cgmenbr=1&smrfnbr=9801&cgrfnbr=2049169 As for this, it is exactly as it appears, "CALL." If you check out the comp.sys.laptops usenet newsgroup, you will see people are on backorder for A21p's for MONTHS. To order directly from IBM is mostly a waste of time. It is easier and more realistic to order from a 3rd party. Mark From cph Mon Nov 13 08:05:46 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id IAA14804 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:05:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19255; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:02:58 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18914; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:02:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA18901; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:02:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (194.75.152.224 -> doggy.lineone.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:02:55 -0500 Received: from hicdbs (host62-6-26-108.btinternet.com [62.6.26.108]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA17647 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:02:44 GMT Message-Id: <200011131302.NAA17647@scooby.lineone.net> From: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" To: "thinkpad" Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:02:25 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <200011130239.TAA56562@mail.aros.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Thinkpads/OS2/MWave List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id IAA19255 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id IAA14805 On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:17:00 -0700, jbrush@aros.net wrote: >Warp4. 6 gig drive. Updated BIOS, c:=1gig for w98 d:=1 gig for Warp4 >I have never installed MMOS2 on either thinkpad because when I do the >install, I get an error message that says audion cannot be installed, and >therefore, NO mm support is ever installed. This is the problem I am >having. I just wonder if everyone who installs warp gets this error? >I have been through the install disks detail for detail on my 760E which >is configured the same way, and Mwave never works, always fails when I >click the mwave icon after what looks like a good install. >When I installed Warp4 onto the 760ED, it provided the same message at the >very start of the CD install, I get an error that no multimedia audio can >be installed. No point proceeding past that error, unless it is considered >normal. ok, a few things to check: 1) Make sure you have the latest Installation Disks from the ddpak site. The latest release has some fixes for ThinkPad installations. So that may solve the error during install. 2) Make sure you DO NOT install any kind of sound drivers, by default the Installation may detect the SoundBlaster emulation and may try to install the SB drivers, so make sure no sound card is selected during installation. 3) What do you mean by MWave exactly? MWave is the chipset for the DSP win-modem (newer TP's use Lucent). If we are talking about the sound, then most probably you mean the sound support for ThinkPads, which is actually two(!) Crystal sound chipsets. 4) You said you have 'warp4' you don't mention any fixpack, so i'll guess that you dont use any, so make sure you download the latest fixpack 14 from IBM's site. (ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes) 5) Its a good idea to follow the updates from: www.warpupdates.de If you still get this error, email me privately and i'll try some other things. þ H.I.C. & D.B.S. þ OS/2 Warp þ Hellas þ þ ServerConfig þ ConfigEdit þ OS/2 UK UG þ From cph Mon Nov 13 08:23:20 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id IAA14885 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:23:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21419; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:23:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:20:00 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20966; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:19:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from cochiti.nm.org (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20953; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:19:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011131319.IAA20953@cs.utk.edu> Received: from cochiti.nm.org (129.121.1.13 -> cochiti.nm.org) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:19:57 -0500 Received: (qmail 76408 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2000 13:19:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jmsthinkpad600x) (198.59.120.83) by cochiti.nm.org with SMTP; 13 Nov 2000 13:19:56 -0000 From: "J. Michael Stolp" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" , "penzance@gate.net" Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 06:21:06 -0700 Reply-To: "J. Michael Stolp" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;1) In-Reply-To: <3A0F8C12.8C0E03E1@gate.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Copying Laptop Drives List-Unsubscribe: ---------------- Original Message ---------------- Bill Morrow wrote on Mon, 13 Nov 2000 01:37:07 -0500: best is to backup to a LAN.. next duplicate the HDD using a duplicate HDD in the ultrabay.. last choice is to use an adapter on your desktype box... multiple active drives are ok, addressing will select the boot device.. for reassurance, put the notebook drive on the second IDE channel on the desktype box.. ----------------------- End of Original Message ----------------------- Bill, I am interested to know more about why you suggest "best" method is to backup to LAN? Maybe you can help me to see solutions to some issues. First, in a SOHO context, even if there are only 2-3 TP's, in order to backup to the LAN, it chews up anywhere from 10 gb to 25 gb of hard drive space on the LAN. That is a lot of real estate for SOHO, in fact I would not even want to chew up that much real estate on the office lan. Second, how would one restore from the lan to the tp in event of disaster or emergency without first "bootstrapping" the tp by re- installation of WinXX up to the level of networking? This second issue seems particularly unique to Win systems, as OS/2 and BackAgain/2 have easily permitted disaster recoveries for years. The way Win likes to lump so much together on C is bothersome in this context. To address these 2 issues, our preferred backup method is to clone to second hard drive with Ghost. In the event of disaster, merely swap the hard drives and boot. Very fast, exact drive clone, no fuss, no muss, no bootstrap, no restore. In any event, I am interested to know the logic to support the suggestion of lan backup. -- Warmest Regards. Mike J. Michael Stolp, C.P.A., Managing Partner Registered Investment Advisor Homepage http://www.taxsavings.com Xelan, The Economic Association of Health Professionals P.O. Box 91567, 8809 Washington St. NE, Suite 150 Albuquerque, New Mexico 87199-1567 Phone 505/856-1100 * Fax 505/856-1197 Wells Fargo Plaza, 125 Lincoln Avenue, Suite 400 Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501 Phone 505/455-1500 * Fax 505/856-1197 8360 E. Via De Ventura, Suite L-200 Scottsdale, Arizona 85258 Phone 480/998-5100 * Fax 505/856-1197 From cph Mon Nov 13 12:38:07 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA16936 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:38:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21499; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:35:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:30:49 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20802; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:30:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mplspop2.mpls.uswest.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20784; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mplspop2.mpls.uswest.net (204.147.80.4 -> mplspop2.mpls.uswest.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:30:41 -0500 Received: (qmail 2801 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2000 17:30:38 -0000 Received: from dialupaa251.mpls.uswest.net (HELO cschumann) (63.225.133.251) by mplspop2.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2000 17:30:38 -0000 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:30:39 -0600 Message-ID: <00b201c04d97$7270a800$1000a8c0@cschumann> From: "Chris Schumann" To: jbrush@aros.net, " " References: <200011130239.TAA56552@mail.aros.net> Subject: Re: Copying Laptop Drives MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: Others have suggested other methods that work for them, and I think I would agree with them, but I'll try to answer your questions. On every machine I know of, you can either only boot from the bootable partition on the first drive, or you can select a drive in the BIOS and boot from that bootable partition. In either case, keep your tower's drive in place and add the laptop drive. I've done it. In my case, the machine would only boot from the first drive. You can install the laptop drive as the primary IDE slave drive, or as a secondary master or slave for better performance. Your laptop drive will (likely) not be bootable, but that's OK. If you should need to restore, you will also need a way to mark its partition as bootable, and your handy fdisk should work for that. (Although I like to use Ranish Partition Manager.) I don't know if software like Veritas's Backup Exec Pro will allow you to take a drive out of one machine, span it across CD-R's, and boot from one of those to restore a whole drive, but that sure sounds nice. Good luck, Chris Schumann > I am wondering if anyone has done this, and how you get around the problem > of booting up with two primary partitions enabled. It would seem to me > that a conflict would hang the system when it tries to boot. Am I up in > the night on this one? > > How can I take my laptop drive, and install it into my tower with the > adapter, and still boot my normal OS with the laptop drive also as a > bootable partition? From cph Mon Nov 13 13:25:55 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA17388 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:25:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29563; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:24:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:22:07 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29174; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:22:05 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id NAA26375 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay21.smtp.psi.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14271; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:43:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay21.smtp.psi.net (38.8.22.2 -> relay21.smtp.psi.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:43:24 -0500 Received: from ntmail.doble.com ([204.215.186.11]) by relay21.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 13vMhU-0002jl-00; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:43:20 -0500 Received: by NTMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:41:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Cottrell, Eric" To: "'penzance@gate.net'" , Brad Burean Cc: Thinkpad Users Subject: RE: DSL or Cable Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:41:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrow [mailto:penzance@gate.net] Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 12:26 AM To: Brad Burean Cc: Thinkpad Users Subject: Re: DSL or Cable can't speak to DSL or ADSL, but apparently cable modems are "married" to the NIC card in the desktype box.. not sure if there is a PCMCIA NIC that the cable company would even HAVE a PCMCIA card for cable modems.. Hello, Some cable companies do marry the NIC with the cable modem but it is possible to call them up and have it changed. You just need to get the ethernet address of the card. I have ADSL and I love it. My ISP did a deal with Verizon so I get Verizon's network but keep my ISP that I generally had good dealings with. No major problems. My solution (which you can do for cable as well) is to use a Linksys DSL/Cable 4 port router. Then your cable modem can be wed to the router and you can connect anything to it. I am just configurating my 'new' 365XD for linux and the like. It is neat to use the laptop to listen to internet audio while doing stuff on the main computer. It also has a 4 port switch (I see an 8 port is available as well) so I can network all my computers (well most of them 8->). 73 Eric eac@shore.net WB1HBU From cph Mon Nov 13 13:40:29 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA17488 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:40:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02721; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:35:20 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02214; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:35:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02196; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:35:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (194.75.152.224 -> doggy.lineone.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:35:17 -0500 Received: from hicdbs (host62-6-15-46.btinternet.com [62.6.15.46]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA11094 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:35:02 GMT Message-Id: <200011131835.SAA11094@scooby.lineone.net> From: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" To: "thinkpad" Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:34:47 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <200011131319.IAA20953@cs.utk.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Copying Laptop Drives List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id NAA02721 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id NAA17489 On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 06:21:06 -0700, J. Michael Stolp wrote: >First, in a SOHO context, even if there are only 2-3 TP's, in order >to backup to the LAN, it chews up anywhere from 10 gb to 25 gb of >hard drive space on the LAN. That is a lot of real estate for >SOHO, in fact I would not even want to chew up that much real >estate on the office lan. >Second, how would one restore from the lan to the tp in event of >disaster or emergency without first "bootstrapping" the tp by re- >installation of WinXX up to the level of networking? 10 to 25gb is just too much to transfer via a parallel/serial cable or another way like that. You have two choices, either remove the harddrives of the TP's manually and connect them to the 'other' system that you keep your backups... or just use a LAN :) Just buy a few 10mbit pcmcia cards, plug them in your TP's, install the drivers, and pull some wires around your place. Then write some scripts to do automatic backups etc. Lots of software exist for OS/2 to do that. a LAN also gives the possibility to use it for other things in the future. For example your kids come around and they can play Quake/Doom in your network. Or you setup an internet connection and share it with all the laptops. Then you could connect an Internet Radio, or a networked coffee machine :) þ H.I.C. & D.B.S. þ OS/2 Warp þ Hellas þ þ ServerConfig þ ConfigEdit þ OS/2 UK UG þ From cph Mon Nov 13 14:14:51 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA17782 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:14:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08258; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:11:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:09:13 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07879; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:09:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07831; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:09:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:09:08 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA22081; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:09:01 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <003601c04da5$271e1780$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: , "Mark Bell" References: <4.2.0.58.20001112215805.02781cc0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> <4.2.0.58.20001112215805.02781cc0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> <4.2.0.58.20001113043523.02b8be10@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:08:48 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > I had > never even heard of sparco.com, thanks! They've been online for a very long time; even in pre-web days, you could get automated online prices from them using an email interface. - David R. From cph Mon Nov 13 17:32:57 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA19901 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:32:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01814; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:32:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:28:57 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01308; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:28:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from passcal.passcal.nmt.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01263; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:28:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from passcal.passcal.nmt.edu (129.138.26.245 -> passcal.passcal.nmt.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:28:29 -0500 Received: from uniblab (uniblab.passcal.nmt.edu [129.138.26.32]) by passcal.passcal.nmt.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA13953 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:27:58 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <005601c04dc1$13007d80$201a8a81@passcal.nmt.edu> From: "Bob Greschke" To: "Thinkpad Users" References: Subject: WindowsME and Linux Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:28:40 -0700 Organization: IRIS/PASSCAL Instrument Center - Socorro, New Mexico USA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 List-Unsubscribe: I need to repartition a disk to make room for Linux. PartitionMagic 4.0, nor PartitionResizer 1.3.3 seem to want to handle a FAT32 disk with WinME. PM acts like it does something, but the MSDOS portion of the process doesn't, and PR complains about disk read errors (like things aren't where it thinks they should be). Is there anything that I can get off the net (like yesterday is the problem) that will work? I'm going out of town and I won't have time to wait for the PM6.0 that's on order, and get Linux up and running, and get the equipment that it needs to talk to up and running, etc. This is some dang scientists fault. :-) Thanks! Bob From cph Mon Nov 13 18:43:00 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA20483 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:43:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08746; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:42:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:38:42 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08336; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from gonzo.speakeasy.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08313; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:38:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from gonzo.speakeasy.net (216.254.0.5 -> gonzo.speakeasy.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:38:16 -0500 Received: (qmail 16343 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2000 23:37:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rchalk) (64.24.66.17) by gonzo.speakeasy.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2000 23:37:50 -0000 Message-ID: <001801c04dca$bf424de0$11421840@bpd.harris.com> From: "Richard Chalk" To: "Bob Greschke" , "Thinkpad Users" References: <005601c04dc1$13007d80$201a8a81@passcal.nmt.edu> Subject: Re: WindowsME and Linux Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:37:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: You should be able to do this using the DOS-Compatible boot-disk version of Partition Magic. Make the two disks, boot from floppy, and the rest should work fine. Good luck, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Greschke" To: "Thinkpad Users" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 5:28 PM Subject: WindowsME and Linux > I need to repartition a disk to make room for Linux. PartitionMagic > 4.0, nor PartitionResizer 1.3.3 seem to want to handle a FAT32 disk > with WinME. PM acts like it does something, but the MSDOS portion of > the process doesn't, and PR complains about disk read errors (like > things aren't where it thinks they should be). Is there anything that > I can get off the net (like yesterday is the problem) that will work? > I'm going out of town and I won't have time to wait for the PM6.0 > that's on order, and get Linux up and running, and get the equipment > that it needs to talk to up and running, etc. This is some dang > scientists fault. :-) > > Thanks! > > Bob > > From cph Mon Nov 13 22:17:31 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA21950 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:17:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00259; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:10:05 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29496; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:10:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from passcal.passcal.nmt.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29477; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:09:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from passcal.passcal.nmt.edu (129.138.26.245 -> passcal.passcal.nmt.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:09:48 -0500 Received: from uniblab (dialin3.passcal.nmt.edu [129.138.26.203]) by passcal.passcal.nmt.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA16377; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:09:26 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <000d01c04de8$4c1e9d00$cb1a8a81@passcal.nmt.edu> From: "Bob Greschke" To: "Richard Chalk" , "Thinkpad Users" References: <005601c04dc1$13007d80$201a8a81@passcal.nmt.edu> <001801c04dca$bf424de0$11421840@bpd.harris.com> Subject: Re: WindowsME and Linux Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:09:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 List-Unsubscribe: That did the trick! Geophysics owes you one. :-) Thanks! Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Chalk" To: "Bob Greschke" ; "Thinkpad Users" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 16:37 Subject: Re: WindowsME and Linux > You should be able to do this using the DOS-Compatible boot-disk version of > Partition Magic. Make the two disks, boot from floppy, and the rest should > work fine. > > Good luck, > Richard > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Greschke" > To: "Thinkpad Users" > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 5:28 PM > Subject: WindowsME and Linux > > > > I need to repartition a disk to make room for Linux. PartitionMagic > > 4.0, nor PartitionResizer 1.3.3 seem to want to handle a FAT32 disk > > with WinME. PM acts like it does something, but the MSDOS portion of > > the process doesn't, and PR complains about disk read errors (like > > things aren't where it thinks they should be). Is there anything that > > I can get off the net (like yesterday is the problem) that will work? > > I'm going out of town and I won't have time to wait for the PM6.0 > > that's on order, and get Linux up and running, and get the equipment > > that it needs to talk to up and running, etc. This is some dang > > scientists fault. :-) > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bob From cph Mon Nov 13 23:39:38 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA22531 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:39:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06962; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:38:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:35:38 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06663; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06650; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.47 -> mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:35:28 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer ([12.79.13.26]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001114043526.JFSP8012.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@oemcomputer> for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 04:35:26 +0000 Message-ID: <011401c04df4$85e4d7a0$1a0d4f0c@oemcomputer> Reply-To: "Simon Bryquer" From: "Simon Bryquer" To: Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:36:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: OK- But they have the identical model (their #832871 --simply without the Ethernet card) for $3978.99 available for the next day. So you buy a card separately. No big deal. SCB -----Original Message----- From: Mark Bell To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Monday, November 13, 2000 4:41 AM Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) >Er, but they're back ordered?! If we were going by price and >availability, then both conditions must be met before a >valid comparison can be made! :) I can offer HWU's for >$3800.00, but if I have no stock, it is irrelevant for those >who want one now and now the shortages IBM is facing >and how the supply chains are seeing them at a trickle >if at all. > >Mark > >At 10:32 PM 11/12/00 -0500, Simon Bryquer wrote: >>eCost.com has them for $4,073.99. >> >>http://www.ecost.com/ >> >> >>SCB >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mark Bell >>To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >>Date: Sunday, November 12, 2000 10:00 PM >>Subject: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) >> >> >> >They have 36 2629HWU's in stock @ Computers4Sure: >> > >> >http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?ProductId=111530&affid=874&adid=8 >>74 >> > >> >They are reliable, their inventory is updated almost immediately and I've >> >used them before. >> > >> >Price = $4309.00 >> > >> >Get 'em while they're hot! :) >> > >> >Mark >> > >> > >> > > From cph Tue Nov 14 02:50:05 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA23696 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 02:50:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19216; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 02:49:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 14 Nov 2000 02:47:02 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19009; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 02:47:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18993; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 02:46:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 14 Nov 2000 02:47:00 -0500 Received: from p3-1ghz (client-151-204-210-12.delval.dialup.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.12]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA14165 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 02:46:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001114021834.02b8c6e0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 02:47:36 -0500 To: From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) In-Reply-To: <011401c04df4$85e4d7a0$1a0d4f0c@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: For people who want a pre-configured system and do not want to play the, "hunt for parts," game or install and configure an adapter (and I've encountered plenty of them), it is a big deal. Not everyone wants to open their system and configure the card. If that were the case, IBM would offer only machines without cards and allow users to purchase one seperately and install it themselves as the ONLY option. If you cruised the newsgroups, you will see plenty of people who want to order the totally pre-configured system versus having to order a combo card seperately and feel they had to settle when they ordered an H1U or H2U. Obviously, it isn't, "no big deal." Secondly, did you know ecost adds a, "handling fee?" That $3978.99 has a, "$95.00" handling fee appended to it right as you are getting ready to check out. If you actually checked them out instead of just scanning availability, you would know this. $3978.99 turns into 4073.99 and then add $200.00 for the combo adapter and you are now at $4273.99. Gee, look at that.... pricing right in the ball park..(Computers4Sure @ $4309.00) shocking huh? :-) Personally, I think that's false advertising. You do not even realize the handling fee until the end and see it appear on your screen or pick through their FAQ. I've dealt with ecost before and they are totally on the up and up in representation and delivery except for that, "handling fee," they impose. Do your homework, take your vitamins and say your prayers Hulkamaniacs! :) Mark At 11:36 PM 11/13/00 -0500, Simon Bryquer wrote: >OK- But they have the identical model (their #832871 --simply without the >Ethernet card) for $3978.99 available for the next day. So you buy a card >separately. No big deal. > >SCB > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Bell >To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >Date: Monday, November 13, 2000 4:41 AM >Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) > > > >Er, but they're back ordered?! If we were going by price and > >availability, then both conditions must be met before a > >valid comparison can be made! :) I can offer HWU's for > >$3800.00, but if I have no stock, it is irrelevant for those > >who want one now and now the shortages IBM is facing > >and how the supply chains are seeing them at a trickle > >if at all. > > > >Mark > > > >At 10:32 PM 11/12/00 -0500, Simon Bryquer wrote: > >>eCost.com has them for $4,073.99. > >> > >>http://www.ecost.com/ > >> > >> > >>SCB > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Mark Bell > >>To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > >>Date: Sunday, November 12, 2000 10:00 PM > >>Subject: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) > >> > >> > >> >They have 36 2629HWU's in stock @ Computers4Sure: > >> > > >> > >http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?ProductId=111530&affid=874&adid=8 > >>74 > >> > > >> >They are reliable, their inventory is updated almost immediately and >I've > >> >used them before. > >> > > >> >Price = $4309.00 > >> > > >> >Get 'em while they're hot! :) > >> > > >> >Mark > >> > > >> > > >> > > > From cph Tue Nov 14 03:35:57 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id DAA23892 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:35:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22468; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:35:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:33:54 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22200; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:33:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from laxmls02.socal.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22185; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from laxmls02.socal.rr.com (24.30.163.11 -> laxmls02.socal.rr.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:33:52 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (sc-24-24-233-88.socal.rr.com [24.24.233.88]) by laxmls02.socal.rr.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eAE8Wdx07229 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 00:32:39 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: mikeford@pop-server.socal.rr.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002901c04c29$7feecb20$ed41b4d8@dwreid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:51:13 -0800 To: "ThinkPad-L" From: Mike Ford Subject: Re: TP Ext. USB CD burners, any gripes? List-Unsubscribe: >Looks like I need to replace my CDROM burner in my desktop and was >considering the HP external USB writer as I could use it with my 770z. > >Any love/hate stories about USB external burners? I bought one of the Sony CDRW USB that Staples blew out for $79, and my view is mixed. USB is NOT PNP, its fussy and slow, and suffers from "newness" (3rd party support issues). OTOH once I got it working, it burnt CDRs just fine and reasonable quickly. Bad stuff USB is slow, 4x is the serious max burn speed at a time when the fastest IDE are doing 12x or better. Lots of software won't work with it, doesn't see it, etc. Fussy means I had to turn auto insert notification off on ALL my CDROM drives to get it working. Good Stuff USB plugs into a lot of newer stuff, like portables. The unit isn't "portable" small, but it is easy to move around compared to first generation external CDRs. My "call" I have a 10/100 network and a LOT of systems I could put a faster cheaper internal drive in and just use the network connection instead of moving the drive around. Also most of my systems don't support USB, but just about all are on the network. Still at the price I paid, its good to have. NOTE Don't use a CDR or CDRW to replace a CD drive, the MTBF is MUCH less, ala 10%. From cph Tue Nov 14 04:25:05 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id EAA24325 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 04:25:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA27449; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 04:24:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 14 Nov 2000 04:22:44 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA27301; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 04:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA27273; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 04:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (212.175.201.3) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 14 Nov 2000 04:22:38 -0500 Received: from tk-laptop (tk-laptop.egenet.com.tr [212.175.201.38]) by home.egenet.com.tr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA08594; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:21:30 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200011140921.LAA08594@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Bob Greschke" Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:21:49 +0200 Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.90.3000) In-Reply-To: <005601c04dc1$13007d80$201a8a81@passcal.nmt.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: WindowsME and Linux List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:28:40 -0700, Bob Greschke wrote: >I need to repartition a disk to make room for Linux. PartitionMagic >4.0, nor PartitionResizer 1.3.3 seem to want to handle a FAT32 disk >with WinME. PM acts like it does something, but the MSDOS portion of >the process doesn't, and PR complains about disk read errors (like Why not just boot DOS from diskette, and then run Partition Magic's DOS tool? I think that's how I shrank my Win partition too. -turgut ------------ EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Find all of Turkey online: http://find.egenet.com.tr From cph Tue Nov 14 12:12:08 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA27559 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:12:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07466; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:09:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:04:53 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06836; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06784; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:04:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (194.75.152.224 -> doggy.lineone.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:04:37 -0500 Received: from hicdbs (host212-140-8-235.btinternet.com [212.140.8.235]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA18044 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:03:52 GMT Message-Id: <200011141703.RAA18044@scooby.lineone.net> From: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" To: "thinkpad" Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:03:38 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: T20 BIOS and OS/2 (from Warpcast) List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id MAA07466 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id MAA27560 (Forwarded from Warpcast) IBM has released a new BIOS for their Thinkpad T20 laptop range that documents a fix for the network hang that may happen when the machine returns from suspend under OS/2 and NT4. The link is: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/MIGR-4JWNJC.html Snipped from the documentation: <1.08 - IYET45WW> - (Fix) A system enters full-suspend mode with some network PC-cards on Windows NT4 and OS/2. It sometimes causes network failure after resume from suspend. þ H.I.C. & D.B.S. þ OS/2 Warp þ Hellas þ þ ServerConfig þ ConfigEdit þ OS/2 UK UG þ From cph Tue Nov 14 19:38:24 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA31104 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:38:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02246; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:28:47 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01595; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:28:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-0.ziplink.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01509; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:28:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-0.ziplink.net (206.15.168.49 -> relay-0.ziplink.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:28:15 -0500 Received: from dallas (ip25.bedford2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.10.25]) by relay-0.ziplink.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id eAF0SCD23149 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:28:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike Capone" To: "thinkpads2" Subject: TP770ED HDD Upgrade options? (opinions wanted) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:29:41 -0500 Message-ID: <000301c04e9b$2508b940$1b00a8c0@dallas> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Hello All- I currently own a TP770ED / 9549-5AU, and the 8.1GB disk is currently beginning to outlive it's usefulness, it is nice and fast but I'm getting a bit cramped for space. (I carry around drivers, disk images, and tons of other stuff). I noticed that the drive bay can accomodate just about any size laptop drive (9.5, 12, and 17 mm hdds)so it looks as though I have a lot of options. At first, I was thinking about the Toshiba MK2016GAP, as the price is right and the performance appears decent. Only thing I'm wondering is if it will be slower than the 8.1GB HDD thats already in the machine. The MK2016 seems to have a better media rate and buffer than the installed drive, but has slower access time and the rotational latency is a bit higher. Wonder which would win out, or would it barely be a noticeable difference. I know the IBM DJSA-232 (Travelstar 32GH) is probably faster than the Toshiba, but it's a bit much for the wallet. I had also tried to look for the 17mm 25GB HDD that IBM made, but havent been able to find one. I looked a long time ago and saw a few out there, but they were expensive. Another thing I'm looking for is an HDD adaptor for the ultrabay in my 770. Anyone know of a place I can get one of these? (this way I can do a drivecopy or ghost to move the system onto the new drive) -Mike From cph Tue Nov 14 23:06:40 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA32314 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 23:06:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19084; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 23:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 14 Nov 2000 23:00:00 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18525; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 22:59:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18462; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 22:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.62 -> smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 14 Nov 2000 22:59:41 -0500 Received: from 209-122-243-104.s104.tnt1.hlb.nj.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.243.104] helo=ppro) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 13vtjS-0002Nt-00 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 22:59:34 -0500 Received: by ppro (VPOP3) with SMTP; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 22:58:55 -0500 Message-ID: <011201c04eb8$4a1a7210$0d00a8c0@dec5200> From: "R Briganti" To: References: <011401c04df4$85e4d7a0$1a0d4f0c@oemcomputer> Subject: OT- need video card recommendation Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 22:58:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0b - Registered to: Belle Mead Claims List-Unsubscribe: I would appreciate any recommendations for a workstation video card for a new machine running Windows 2000 with a dual PIII550 and 1GB RAM. I have to find a PCI card that supports 1600 x 1024 resolution @ 85Hz. I have used a 3Dfx Voodoo3 2000 card in the past but would like to know if anyone has any other suggestions. The system is mostly used to run MS Word, Excel, Access, Photoshop, and Acrobat to view large files of scanned images. The hardest thing is to find out what resolutions are supported by the card under different operating systems before you actually purchase the thing. Price is not important. Thanks. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Bryquer" To: Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 23:36 Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) > OK- But they have the identical model (their #832871 --simply without the > Ethernet card) for $3978.99 available for the next day. So you buy a card > separately. No big deal. > > SCB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Bell > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Date: Monday, November 13, 2000 4:41 AM > Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) > > > >Er, but they're back ordered?! If we were going by price and > >availability, then both conditions must be met before a > >valid comparison can be made! :) I can offer HWU's for > >$3800.00, but if I have no stock, it is irrelevant for those > >who want one now and now the shortages IBM is facing > >and how the supply chains are seeing them at a trickle > >if at all. > > > >Mark > > > >At 10:32 PM 11/12/00 -0500, Simon Bryquer wrote: > >>eCost.com has them for $4,073.99. > >> > >>http://www.ecost.com/ > >> > >> > >>SCB > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Mark Bell > >>To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > >>Date: Sunday, November 12, 2000 10:00 PM > >>Subject: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) > >> > >> > >> >They have 36 2629HWU's in stock @ Computers4Sure: > >> > > >> > >http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?ProductId=111530&affid=874&adid=8 > >>74 > >> > > >> >They are reliable, their inventory is updated almost immediately and > I've > >> >used them before. > >> > > >> >Price = $4309.00 > >> > > >> >Get 'em while they're hot! :) > >> > > >> >Mark > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > From cph Wed Nov 15 01:28:17 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA00786 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:28:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29361; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:27:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:25:02 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29123; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:25:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29105; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:24:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:24:55 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-32.gate.net [207.36.212.32]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA215180; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:23:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3A122C1E.812DB128@gate.net> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:24:30 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Michael Stolp" CC: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Copying Laptop Drives References: <200011131319.IAA20953@cs.utk.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Mike.. "J. Michael Stolp" wrote: > ---------------- > Original Message > ---------------- > > Bill Morrow wrote on Mon, 13 Nov 2000 01:37:07 -0500: > > best is to backup to a LAN.. > next duplicate the HDD using a duplicate HDD in the ultrabay.. > last choice is to use an adapter on your desktype box... > multiple active drives are ok, addressing will select the boot > device.. > for reassurance, put the notebook drive on the second IDE channel > on the > desktype box.. > > ----------------------- > End of Original Message > ----------------------- > > Bill, I am interested to know more about why you suggest "best" > method is to backup to LAN? > less wear on the HDD or ultrabay plugs.. they DO wear out, 300 insertions.. more or less.. > > Maybe you can help me to see solutions to some issues. > > First, in a SOHO context, even if there are only 2-3 TP's, in order > to backup to the LAN, it chews up anywhere from 10 gb to 25 gb of > hard drive space on the LAN. That is a lot of real estate for > SOHO, in fact I would not even want to chew up that much real > estate on the office lan. > HDD's are CHEAP.. 46gig IBM for $200~ thats CHEAP.. IMO raid arrays will become more and more popular.. park your changeable data files in one directory, then save that directory off to a LAN drive.. my important files are either on a CD or several HDD's.. > > Second, how would one restore from the lan to the tp in event of > disaster or emergency without first "bootstrapping" the tp by re- > installation of WinXX up to the level of networking? i would keep a backup of my OS install.. on a second HDD.. or on the LAN.. :-) with apps and all.. do that backup every week or two weeks or so.. then backup the changeable data, daily.. a full restore would take a while longer, but little wear.. > > This second issue seems particularly unique to Win systems, as OS/2 > and BackAgain/2 have easily permitted disaster recoveries for > years. The way Win likes to lump so much together on C is > bothersome in this context. > > To address these 2 issues, our preferred backup method is to clone > to second hard drive with Ghost. In the event of disaster, merely > swap the hard drives and boot. Very fast, exact drive clone, no > fuss, no muss, no bootstrap, no restore. > agreed, this is the best for an instant disaster recovery.. also good for testing a new app.. (a customer in singapore used to do his backups this way).. but bear in mind that the plugs will wear with constant insertions.. thats why i suggest that the BEST backup is to use a LAN.. second is the duplicate drive..or the combination of the two.. of course, the real "best" is the way that works best for each user.. in a small operation with more than a few notebooks on the road, i would keep a loaner machine for X machines on the road and update it for any user whose machine goes down, for whatever reason.. then just restore the changeable data.. this assumes a standard install and a standard laptop.. i hope this disconnected response helps.. > > In any event, I am interested to know the logic to support the > suggestion of lan backup. > > -- > Warmest Regards. > Mike > > J. Michael Stolp, C.P.A., Managing Partner > Registered Investment Advisor > > Homepage http://www.taxsavings.com > > Xelan, The Economic Association of Health Professionals > P.O. Box 91567, 8809 Washington St. NE, Suite 150 > Albuquerque, New Mexico 87199-1567 > Phone 505/856-1100 * Fax 505/856-1197 > > Wells Fargo Plaza, 125 Lincoln Avenue, Suite 400 > Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501 > Phone 505/455-1500 * Fax 505/856-1197 > > 8360 E. Via De Ventura, Suite L-200 > Scottsdale, Arizona 85258 > Phone 480/998-5100 * Fax 505/856-1197 -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Wed Nov 15 01:37:12 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA00851 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:37:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00242; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:36:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:35:12 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00035; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:35:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00016; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:35:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:35:10 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-32.gate.net [207.36.212.32]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA25518; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:34:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3A122E98.CBB1CA16@gate.net> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:35:05 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Greschke CC: Thinkpad Users Subject: Re: WindowsME and Linux References: <005601c04dc1$13007d80$201a8a81@passcal.nmt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: i would start by getting an updated version of PQ Magic.. :-) ver. 6 is out.. W2k and wME have caused me problems using older apps.. Bob Greschke wrote: > I need to repartition a disk to make room for Linux. PartitionMagic > 4.0, nor PartitionResizer 1.3.3 seem to want to handle a FAT32 disk > with WinME. PM acts like it does something, but the MSDOS portion of > the process doesn't, and PR complains about disk read errors (like > things aren't where it thinks they should be). Is there anything that > I can get off the net (like yesterday is the problem) that will work? > I'm going out of town and I won't have time to wait for the PM6.0 > that's on order, and get Linux up and running, and get the equipment > that it needs to talk to up and running, etc. This is some dang > scientists fault. :-) > > Thanks! > > Bob -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Wed Nov 15 08:10:08 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id IAA03171 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:10:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00123; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:09:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:07:41 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29761; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.cbn.net.id (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29747; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.cbn.net.id (202.158.2.53 -> smtp3.cbn.net.id) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:07:33 -0500 Received: from benny (unknown [202.158.58.30]) by smtp3.cbn.net.id (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CAC153582 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:10:09 +0700 (JAVT) Message-ID: <039501c04f04$e28c8fa0$0300a8c0@benny> From: "Benny Sabini" To: Subject: T20 -- DVD Region Code -- changeable ??? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:46:12 +0700 Organization: Personal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0362_01C04F23.8FD192A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0362_01C04F23.8FD192A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, Anybody knows whether IBM has DVD player that is multi region code? = apparently my U.S T20's DVD player and Mediamatics's DVD Express don't = really like DVD movies from outside region 1 ( US and Canada). The = warning says you could play DVD movies outside region 1 on this system = for a limited numbers only (5x) and after that you have to bring the = computer to the authorize service. I travel a lot to Europe and Asia and = this "feature" really annoys me. In Europe or in AustralAsia it is = common to find a DVD player which is multi region capable. Has anyone = got a way around this ? Thanks, Benny ------=_NextPart_000_0362_01C04F23.8FD192A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi folks,
 
Anybody knows whether IBM has DVD = player that is=20 multi region code? apparently my U.S T20's DVD player and Mediamatics's = DVD=20 Express don't really like DVD movies from outside region 1 ( US and = Canada). The=20 warning says you could play DVD movies outside region 1 on = this system=20 for a limited numbers only (5x) and after that you have to = bring the=20 computer to the authorize service. I travel a lot to Europe and = Asia=20 and this "feature" really annoys me. In Europe or in AustralAsia it = is=20 common to find a DVD player which is multi region capable. Has = anyone got a=20 way around this ?
 
Thanks,
Benny
------=_NextPart_000_0362_01C04F23.8FD192A0-- From cph Wed Nov 15 08:11:20 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id IAA03176 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:11:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00621; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:11:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:09:36 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00055; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00034; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:09:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.62 -> smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:09:33 -0500 Received: from 209-122-243-104.s104.tnt1.hlb.nj.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.243.104] helo=ppro) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 13w2Jf-0004US-00 ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:09:31 -0500 Received: by ppro (VPOP3) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:08:58 -0500 Message-ID: <011d01c04f05$216aebe0$0d00a8c0@dec5200> From: "R Briganti" To: "Thinkpad List" Cc: "David Ross" References: <011401c04df4$85e4d7a0$1a0d4f0c@oemcomputer> <011201c04eb8$4a1a7210$0d00a8c0@dec5200> <000b01c04ec7$7c8010c0$7553193f@math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: OT- need video card recommendation Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:08:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0b - Registered to: Belle Mead Claims List-Unsubscribe: Thanks for the reply. I had forgotten about ATI and will see what they have available. Do you have any specific model to recommend? My monitor is a DEC (Sony) 25" panoramic. I have had several vision problems and size is a big help for me using the computer for my business. It does the resolution and refresh without a problem. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ross" To: "R Briganti" Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 00:47 Subject: Re: OT- need video card recommendation > If you do not plan to run 3D games, then you want a card from ATI or Matrox, as > they have the best > text display properties and are as fast as the 'sexier' video cards in 2D. I > am partial to ATI, their > drivers are very stable. > > ATI lists resolutions at their website, though this depends somewhat on the > monitor; not all that many monitors can even support 1600 x 1024 noninterlaced. > > - David Ross > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "R Briganti" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 5:58 PM > Subject: OT- need video card recommendation > > > > I would appreciate any recommendations for a workstation video card for a > > new machine running Windows 2000 with a dual PIII550 and 1GB RAM. I have to > > find a PCI card that supports 1600 x 1024 resolution @ 85Hz. I have used a > > 3Dfx Voodoo3 2000 card in the past but would like to know if anyone has any > > other suggestions. The system is mostly used to run MS Word, Excel, Access, > > Photoshop, and Acrobat to view large files of scanned images. > > > > The hardest thing is to find out what resolutions are supported by the card > > under different operating systems before you actually purchase the thing. > > > > Price is not important. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Bob > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Simon Bryquer" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 23:36 > > Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) > > > > > > > OK- But they have the identical model (their #832871 --simply without the > > > Ethernet card) for $3978.99 available for the next day. So you buy a > > card > > > separately. No big deal. > > > > > > SCB > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mark Bell > > > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > > > Date: Monday, November 13, 2000 4:41 AM > > > Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) > > > > > > > > > >Er, but they're back ordered?! If we were going by price and > > > >availability, then both conditions must be met before a > > > >valid comparison can be made! :) I can offer HWU's for > > > >$3800.00, but if I have no stock, it is irrelevant for those > > > >who want one now and now the shortages IBM is facing > > > >and how the supply chains are seeing them at a trickle > > > >if at all. > > > > > > > >Mark > > > > > > > >At 10:32 PM 11/12/00 -0500, Simon Bryquer wrote: > > > >>eCost.com has them for $4,073.99. > > > >> > > > >>http://www.ecost.com/ > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>SCB > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > > >>From: Mark Bell > > > >>To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > > > >>Date: Sunday, November 12, 2000 10:00 PM > > > >>Subject: A21p's available (Get 'em while they're hot!) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >They have 36 2629HWU's in stock @ Computers4Sure: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?ProductId=111530&affid=874&adid=8 > > > >>74 > > > >> > > > > >> >They are reliable, their inventory is updated almost immediately and > > > I've > > > >> >used them before. > > > >> > > > > >> >Price = $4309.00 > > > >> > > > > >> >Get 'em while they're hot! :) > > > >> > > > > >> >Mark > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From cph Wed Nov 15 11:01:20 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA04381 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:01:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22426; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:57:52 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21865; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:57:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot12.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21795; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:57:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot12.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.32 -> pilot12.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:57:45 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (pm457-36.dialip.mich.net [198.110.21.142]) by pilot12.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eAFFve628498 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:57:40 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001115105315.020a62e0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:58:34 -0500 To: From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: T20 -- DVD Region Code -- changeable ??? In-Reply-To: <039501c04f04$e28c8fa0$0300a8c0@benny> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_41099044==_.ALT" List-Unsubscribe: --=====================_41099044==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed As far as I know, you can't change that. The @)(*@^(*&^%@*& people who designed this have made for a limited number of changes, 5 (five!), which is counted in some non-volatile memory, after which it would have to be cleaned out (ie, "authorized service") to start over again. I suspect that there is in fact a way around it, given that this is software, but of course you'd violate the idiotic agreement that allows you to run the software in the first place. I'm sure that disassembling the code would reveal just how it all works, but I also suspect that the person who did it and announced the work around would find themselves in some sort of legal trouble. This is corpratisim at it's worst. The large international companies telling us what we can see, and where. --STeve Andre' At 04:46 PM 11/15/00 +0700, Benny Sabini wrote: >Hi folks, > >Anybody knows whether IBM has DVD player that is multi region code? >apparently my U.S T20's DVD player and Mediamatics's DVD Express don't >really like DVD movies from outside region 1 ( US and Canada). The warning >says you could play DVD movies outside region 1 on this system for a >limited numbers only (5x) and after that you have to bring the computer to >the authorize service. I travel a lot to Europe and Asia and this >"feature" really annoys me. In Europe or in AustralAsia it is common to >find a DVD player which is multi region capable. Has anyone got a way >around this ? > >Thanks, >Benny --=====================_41099044==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" As far as I know, you can't change that.  The @)(*@^(*&^%@*& people who
designed this have made for a limited number of changes, 5 (five!), which is
counted in some non-volatile memory, after which it would have to be cleaned
out (ie, "authorized service") to start over again.

I suspect that there is in fact a way around it, given that this is software, but
of course you'd violate the idiotic agreement that allows you to run the software
in the first place.  I'm sure that disassembling the code would reveal just how it
all works, but I also suspect that the person who did it and announced the
work around would find themselves in some sort of legal trouble.

This is corpratisim at it's worst.  The large international companies telling us
what we can see, and where.

--STeve Andre'

At 04:46 PM 11/15/00 +0700, Benny Sabini wrote:
Hi folks,
 
Anybody knows whether IBM has DVD player that is multi region code? apparently my U.S T20's DVD player and Mediamatics's DVD Express don't really like DVD movies from outside region 1 ( US and Canada). The warning says you could play DVD movies outside region 1 on this system for a limited numbers only (5x) and after that you have to bring the computer to the authorize service. I travel a lot to Europe and Asia and this "feature" really annoys me. In Europe or in AustralAsia it is common to find a DVD player which is multi region capable. Has anyone got a way around this ?
 
Thanks,
Benny
--=====================_41099044==_.ALT-- From cph Wed Nov 15 13:08:25 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA05703 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:08:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21012; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:05:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:01:36 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20471; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:01:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from web210.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20449; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:01:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from web210.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.110 -> web210.mail.yahoo.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:01:28 -0500 Received: (qmail 5486 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Nov 2000 18:01:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20001115180126.5485.qmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.88.232.67] by web210.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:01:26 PST Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:01:26 -0800 (PST) From: Pencetera Reply-To: pencetera@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT- need video card recommendation To: R Briganti , Thinkpad List Cc: David Ross MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: I'd recommend Matrox. Their display is superior to everyone else and they tend to be very stable and business oriented. They (like ATI) aren't as fast as the 2 premier 3d game players (voodoo and Nvidia geforce). They make up for that with the best display quality on the market. Check out the G400/G450. --- R Briganti wrote: > Thanks for the reply. I had forgotten about ATI and > will see what they have > available. Do you have any specific model to > recommend? > > My monitor is a DEC (Sony) 25" panoramic. I have > had several vision > problems and size is a big help for me using the > computer for my business. > It does the resolution and refresh without a > problem. > > Bob > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Ross" > To: "R Briganti" > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 00:47 > Subject: Re: OT- need video card recommendation > > > > If you do not plan to run 3D games, then you want > a card from ATI or > Matrox, as > > they have the best > > text display properties and are as fast as the > 'sexier' video cards in 2D. > I > > am partial to ATI, their > > drivers are very stable. > > > > ATI lists resolutions at their website, though > this depends somewhat on > the > > monitor; not all that many monitors can even > support 1600 x 1024 > noninterlaced. > > > > - David Ross > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "R Briganti" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 5:58 PM > > Subject: OT- need video card recommendation > > > > > > > I would appreciate any recommendations for a > workstation video card for > a > > > new machine running Windows 2000 with a dual > PIII550 and 1GB RAM. I > have to > > > find a PCI card that supports 1600 x 1024 > resolution @ 85Hz. I have > used a > > > 3Dfx Voodoo3 2000 card in the past but would > like to know if anyone has > any > > > other suggestions. The system is mostly used to > run MS Word, Excel, > Access, > > > Photoshop, and Acrobat to view large files of > scanned images. > > > > > > The hardest thing is to find out what > resolutions are supported by the > card > > > under different operating systems before you > actually purchase the > thing. > > > > > > Price is not important. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Simon Bryquer" > > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 23:36 > > > Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while > they're hot!) > > > > > > > > > > OK- But they have the identical model (their > #832871 --simply without > the > > > > Ethernet card) for $3978.99 available for the > next day. So you buy a > > > card > > > > separately. No big deal. > > > > > > > > SCB > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Mark Bell > > > > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > > > > Date: Monday, November 13, 2000 4:41 AM > > > > Subject: Re: A21p's available (Get 'em while > they're hot!) > > > > > > > > > > > > >Er, but they're back ordered?! If we were > going by price and > > > > >availability, then both conditions must be > met before a > > > > >valid comparison can be made! :) I can offer > HWU's for > > > > >$3800.00, but if I have no stock, it is > irrelevant for those > > > > >who want one now and now the shortages IBM is > facing > > > > >and how the supply chains are seeing them at > a trickle > > > > >if at all. > > > > > > > > > >Mark > > > > > > > > > >At 10:32 PM 11/12/00 -0500, Simon Bryquer > wrote: > > > > >>eCost.com has them for $4,073.99. > > > > >> > > > > >>http://www.ecost.com/ > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>SCB > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > > > >>From: Mark Bell > > > > >>To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > > > > > >>Date: Sunday, November 12, 2000 10:00 PM > > > > >>Subject: A21p's available (Get 'em while > they're hot!) > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >They have 36 2629HWU's in stock @ > Computers4Sure: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?ProductId=111530&affid=874&adid=8 > > > > >>74 > > > > >> > > > > > >> >They are reliable, their inventory is > updated almost immediately > and > > > > I've > > > > >> >used them before. > > > > >> > > > > > >> >Price = $4309.00 > > > > >> > > > > > >> >Get 'em while they're hot! :) > > > > >> > > > > > >> >Mark > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== http://www.pencetera.com - "For those who want to do it write" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ From cph Wed Nov 15 14:10:17 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA06317 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:10:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28914; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:02:14 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28473; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:02:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28458; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:02:10 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA06701; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:56:03 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <002001c04f35$aef61e00$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: , "R Briganti" , "Thinkpad List" References: <20001115180126.5485.qmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: OT- need video card recommendation Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:55:51 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > I'd recommend Matrox.[...] > They make up for that with the best display quality on > the market. Check out the G400/G450. For 2D display quality I'd say it is a crapshoot between Matrox and ATI (I'd originally recommended them _both_ to Bob off the list, where this discussion belongs hint hint). I don't know if the G400 supports the oddball 1600x1024 res that Bob wants, though there is evidently a 3rd party Matrox res tweak program floating around that might get him there. - David From cph Wed Nov 15 15:04:19 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA06929 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:04:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05183; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:59:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:56:56 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04753; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:56:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04738; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:56:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:56:52 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA07280; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:55:27 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001801c04f3d$f93e8f80$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Benny Sabini" , References: <039501c04f04$e28c8fa0$0300a8c0@benny> Subject: Re: T20 -- DVD Region Code -- changeable ??? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:55:15 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: "Anybody knows whether IBM has DVD player that is multi region code? apparently my U.S T20's DVD player and Mediamatics's DVD Express don't really like DVD movies from outside region 1 ( US and Canada)." DVD region control is done 3 places: (a) On the DVD itself; (b) in the DVD drive firmware; (c) in the software used to decode the DVD. (If a hardware decoder card is being used, then there is also control in that card's firmware.) Typically *all* of these have to agree to make a disk playable. There are hacks for most decoders - software and hardware - to make them region-free; this includes DVD Express (DVD Genie will do it, for example, on DVD Express). This won't help with your drive hardware; for that, you need to flash the firmware with a region-free BIOS, if such exists. These usually appear in the DVD underground well after the drive appears, and I would be surprised if anyone has done this yet for the T20's drive. - David R. From cph Wed Nov 15 18:34:07 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA09111 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:34:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28249; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:32:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:28:24 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27879; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:28:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from vasquez.zip.com.au (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27852; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from vasquez.zip.com.au (203.12.97.41 -> vasquez.zip.com.au) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:28:01 -0500 Received: from CNSCOTT.zip.com.au (ike149.zip.com.au [210.23.146.149]) by vasquez.zip.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04219 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:27:19 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001116102519.00a99130@pop.zip.com.au> X-Sender: cnscott@pop.zip.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:27:17 +1100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Chris Scott Subject: Re: T20 -- DVD Region Code -- changeable ??? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I have done this for the A20m and im pretty sure the drives are the same in the T20. email me @ cnscott@yahoo.com and ill tell u how. c. From cph Wed Nov 15 19:15:26 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA09351 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:15:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04019; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:11:55 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03404; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:11:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03336; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:11:48 -0500 Received: from p3-1ghz (client-151-204-210-129.delval.dialup.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.129]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA15270 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:11:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001115190911.026a1a00@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:12:25 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Replacement models for A21p Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: It appears IBM replaced the 2629HWU (Win2k/Combo) and 2629HXU (Win98/Combo) with the 2629HTU (Win2K/Combo) and 2629HSU (Win98/Combo). The difference is the originals came with 3Com combos, and the new ones come with the Intel combo. Does anyone know why IBM did this besides speculation (IE, supply problems) :) Mark From cph Wed Nov 15 19:24:31 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA09428 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:24:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05682; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:21:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:20:16 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05428; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot29.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05415; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot29.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.49 -> pilot29.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:20:13 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (symposium.pls.msu.edu [35.8.65.43]) by pilot29.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eAG0KBq57636 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:20:11 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001115191854.01fc18b0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:20:08 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: Replacement models for A21p In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20001115190911.026a1a00@postoffice2.bellatlantic. net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I don't know why, but I thank you for saying this on the list just now. I'm in the process of ordering two of these, and the purchasing people wanted more data in order to make the order. Now I can head off some confusion with this. Thanks for that Mark--you've probably saved me a week or more of delays. STeve At 07:12 PM 11/15/00 -0500, Mark Bell wrote: >It appears IBM replaced the 2629HWU (Win2k/Combo) and 2629HXU >(Win98/Combo) with the >2629HTU (Win2K/Combo) and 2629HSU (Win98/Combo). The difference is the >originals came >with 3Com combos, and the new ones come with the Intel combo. Does anyone >know why IBM >did this besides speculation (IE, supply problems) :) > >Mark From cph Wed Nov 15 22:47:09 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA10967 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:47:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22686; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:39:39 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21802; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:39:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21789; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:39:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.50 -> mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:39:38 -0500 Received: from tara ([12.79.30.16]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001116033936.JBK18967.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@tara> for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 03:39:36 +0000 Message-ID: <00e901c04f7e$c24be040$eb2bfea9@tara> Reply-To: "Don" From: "Don" Cc: "Thinkpad Users" References: <005601c04dc1$13007d80$201a8a81@passcal.nmt.edu> <3A122E98.CBB1CA16@gate.net> Subject: 770ED and Redhat 7 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:38:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: I don't remember any problems with the sound chip under redhat 6.2 but... I installed RH7 and when I run sndconfig and select the CS4232 card the playback of MP3's is choppy with a very bad reverb in it as well. Anyone running RH7 or maybe 6.2 on a 770ED? What does the module.conf look like? I have : alias sound-slot-0 cs4232 options sound dmabuf=1 alias midi op13 options op13 io=0x388 options cs4232 io=0x530 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=9 synthirq=5 synthio=220 If I select the Soundblaster card the mp3's are fine but Realplayer doesn't work... Donald Mak From cph Wed Nov 15 23:34:46 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA11255 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:34:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27283; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:30:09 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26931; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:30:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.boston.juno.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26822; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:29:57 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from m1.boston.juno.com (63.211.172.64 -> m1.boston.juno.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:29:57 -0500 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"Z4sRmP4V5DZKhyOUz4u6Nsr4YrNgHsQH1NYvZ8kKOzaPU/C8ongAVw=="> Received: (from evenmere@juno.com) by m1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id FNYJL7P4; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:28:57 EST To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:31:58 -0600 Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: <20001115.223200.-1848783.10.evenmere@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 List-Unsubscribe: From cph Thu Nov 16 13:58:09 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA17085 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:58:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15068; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:23:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:20:20 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14664; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:20:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14651; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (194.75.152.224 -> doggy.lineone.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:20:17 -0500 Received: from hicdbs (host212-140-10-234.btinternet.com [212.140.10.234]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA01834 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:19:54 GMT Message-Id: <200011161319.NAA01834@scooby.lineone.net> From: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" To: "thinkpad" Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:19:27 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <00e901c04f7e$c24be040$eb2bfea9@tara> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: 770ED and Redhat 7 List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id IAA15068 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id NAA17086 On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:38:58 -0500, Don wrote: >I don't remember any problems with the sound chip under redhat 6.2 but... >I installed RH7 and when I run sndconfig and select the CS4232 card the >playback of MP3's >is choppy with a very bad reverb in it as well. >Anyone running RH7 or maybe 6.2 on a 770ED? >What does the module.conf look like? I can't help, but i have one suggestion, RH 7.0 is very buggy and should have never been published in the first place. Try installing the latest fixes/updates from RH's ftp site. þ H.I.C. & D.B.S. þ OS/2 Warp þ Hellas þ þ ServerConfig þ ConfigEdit þ OS/2 UK UG þ From cph Thu Nov 16 14:05:17 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA17151 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:05:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03265; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 00:33:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 16 Nov 2000 00:29:34 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02762; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 00:29:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02747; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 00:29:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 16 Nov 2000 00:29:31 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-385.gate.net [199.227.173.131]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19500; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 00:29:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3A1370AD.8D3B60D0@gate.net> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 00:29:17 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "STeve Andre'" CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Replacement models for A21p References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001115191854.01fc18b0@pilot.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the word i get is that IBM can get more of the Intel combo card.. BUT, FWIW, the first A20p's came with the Intel/Xircom combo card.. i think that info is in onf of the reports from Comdex i have been posting on my web site... about 6 weeks ago, yet a third combo card was announced.. the specs sound the same.. p/n is: 19K5887 STeve Andre' wrote: > I don't know why, but I thank you for saying this on the list just > now. I'm in > the process of ordering two of these, and the purchasing people wanted more > data in order to make the order. Now I can head off some confusion with this. > > Thanks for that Mark--you've probably saved me a week or more of delays. > > STeve > > At 07:12 PM 11/15/00 -0500, Mark Bell wrote: > >It appears IBM replaced the 2629HWU (Win2k/Combo) and 2629HXU > >(Win98/Combo) with the > >2629HTU (Win2K/Combo) and 2629HSU (Win98/Combo). The difference is the > >originals came > >with 3Com combos, and the new ones come with the Intel combo. Does anyone > >know why IBM > >did this besides speculation (IE, supply problems) :) > > > >Mark -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Thu Nov 16 16:10:27 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA18736 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:10:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17920; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:03:12 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17048; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from gonzo.speakeasy.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17035; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:03:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from gonzo.speakeasy.net (216.254.0.5 -> gonzo.speakeasy.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:03:08 -0500 Received: (qmail 19962 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2000 21:03:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO WALD11) (216.254.51.110) by gonzo.speakeasy.net with SMTP; 16 Nov 2000 21:03:03 -0000 From: "William Armstrong" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: RE: OT- need video card recommendation Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:03:59 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002001c04f35$aef61e00$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: 1600x1024 is the Superwide" res used by the Silicon Graphics flat panel monitors. I believe the latest MATROX drivers support this res, at least they do for the SGI monitor using their special adpater and a MATROX daughter card for digital output. Don't know for sure if it's supported for direct analog output, but you could probably check easily enough. -----Original Message----- From: David Ross [mailto:ross@math.hawaii.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 1:56 PM To: pencetera@yahoo.com; R Briganti; Thinkpad List Subject: Re: OT- need video card recommendation > I'd recommend Matrox.[...] > They make up for that with the best display quality on > the market. Check out the G400/G450. For 2D display quality I'd say it is a crapshoot between Matrox and ATI (I'd originally recommended them _both_ to Bob off the list, where this discussion belongs hint hint). I don't know if the G400 supports the oddball 1600x1024 res that Bob wants, though there is evidently a 3rd party Matrox res tweak program floating around that might get him there. - David From cph Thu Nov 16 17:08:58 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA19199 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:08:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26471; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:05:25 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26126; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26108; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:05:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:05:21 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA16018 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:05:02 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000b01c05019$4627ecc0$8f5d1c3f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: [TPall/none] Combo card advice needed Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:05:02 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Since the subject has come up (in a thread on the A21), I need some advice - I'm in the market for a network/modem combo card (to free up a pcmcia slot for other devices), but haven't seen any in the few local shops that meet all my needs. Here's what I want: (1) 10/100 ethernet + 56k modem, preferably cardbus; (2) Modem should be a non-win modem, and 'global class' (recognize non-US dial tones etc); (3) must give access to the second pcmcia slot (and a flat cable emerging from the center of its end) when in use; (4) I must be able to close the pcmcia door on my 560X when the card is inserted (but cable disconnected) for carrying - I suppose this means a dongle instead of xjack etc. Does anyone know which (if any) cards meet these requirements? The least important requirement is cardbus most important are (3) and (4). This is the problem with online research: specs are easy to find but it is really hard to figure out how these cards will actually fit on my machine! Thanks, David R. From cph Fri Nov 17 03:25:07 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id DAA23311 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:25:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24041; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:16:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:08:50 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22975; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:08:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22960; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:08:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie.loop.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:08:46 -0500 Received: from tp701.pkhoury.com (p24.hwts17.loop.net [207.211.63.69]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA49058; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:02:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011170802.AAA49058@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "evenmere@juno.com" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:11:56 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Pen tablet pens List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 13:19:04 -0600, evenmere@juno.com wrote: >I've got a IBM 730T Pen Tablet. The stylus came with it and works fine, >but I wanted to buy an extra. I've tried the palm pilot pens, and >apparently they don't use the same mechanism. Because the 710T, 730T, and 730TE use electromagnetic pens. The palm pilot and CE machines use a regular plastic stylus. The 730 manual indicates >the pen works on some sort of electromagnetic principal. Do you know of >any sources for a new stylus that would work? I know I can buy used ones >on e-bay, but I wanted one that was a bit more spiffy. > Well, if you're looking for something in a different package than IBM's pen, I don't know what to tell you. But I just got a replacement/spare pen from cfpeople@earthlink.net, who sells a lot of 730 stuff on eBay, and service from him is pretty good. Paul From cph Fri Nov 17 03:28:42 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id DAA23329 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:28:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24033; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:16:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:11:54 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA23343; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:11:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA23330; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:11:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.157 -> smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:11:52 -0500 Received: from adsl-151-202-18-129.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net (adsl-151-202-18-129.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.202.18.129]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA23252; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:11:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011170811.DAA23252@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> From: "Philip R. Mann" To: "David Ross" , "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:11:31 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Philip R. Mann" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <000b01c05019$4627ecc0$8f5d1c3f@math.hawaii.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TPall/none] Combo card advice needed List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:05:02 -1000, David Ross wrote: >I'm in the market for a >network/modem combo card (to free up a pcmcia slot for other devices), but >haven't seen any in the few local >shops that meet all my needs. Here's what I want: (1) 10/100 ethernet + 56k >modem, preferably cardbus; >(2) Modem should be a non-win modem, and 'global class' (recognize non-US dial >tones etc); (3) must give >access to the second pcmcia slot (and a flat cable emerging from the center of >its end) when in use; >(4) I must be able to close the pcmcia door on my 560X when the card is >inserted (but cable disconnected) >for carrying - I suppose this means a dongle instead of xjack etc. I think your biggest difficulty will be item 2 concerning world class modem --- you might have to settle for US modem and changing the initiation string from X4 to X3 (if memory serves) to have blind dialing. If anyone has the card you want, it probably is 3Com under the USRobotics or MegaHertz labels and you're probably talking big $. If you can accept blind dialing, take a look at the Linksys line which usually gives good value for the dollar. ----- PRM ----- From cph Fri Nov 17 04:05:39 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id EAA23923 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 04:05:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29797; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 04:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 04:02:34 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29413; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 04:02:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29162; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:58:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (134.100.9.61 -> rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:58:45 -0500 Received: from kogs1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (root@kogs1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.12.111]) by rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eAH8wdf22002 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:58:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from kogs45.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (kogs45.informatik.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.12.145]) by kogs1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eAH8wcR17937 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:58:38 +0100 (MET) Received: (from utcke@localhost) by kogs45.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) id eAH8wZD28620 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:58:36 +0100 (MET) From: Sven Utcke Message-Id: <200011170858.eAH8wZD28620@kogs45.informatik.uni-hamburg.de> Subject: Re: Pen tablet pens To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:58:33 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <20001112.131905.-1848783.2.evenmere@juno.com> from "evenmere@juno.com" at Nov 12, 2000 01:19:04 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi James, > I've got a IBM 730T Pen Tablet. The stylus came with it and works > fine, but I wanted to buy an extra. I've tried the palm pilot pens, > and apparently they don't use the same mechanism. Not at all. They are just a piece of plastic. > The 730 manual indicates the pen works on some sort of > electromagnetic principal. Indeed. > Do you know of any sources for a new stylus that would work? Well, the Linux-driver for the 360pe is basically a modified wacom driver, so I think it is a fair guess that one of their pens might work. If you buy it in a shop (rather than on ebay) you could always test it first... Sven -- _ __ The Cognitive Systems Group | |/ /___ __ _ ___ University of Hamburg | ' ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 04:25:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02287; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 04:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 04:22:01 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02005; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 04:22:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01992; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 04:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 04:21:59 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA19858; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:21:37 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000f01c05077$cab89a80$565d1c3f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Philip R. Mann" , "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" References: <200011170811.DAA23252@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: [TPall/none] Combo card advice needed Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:21:37 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > I think your biggest difficulty will be item 2 concerning world class modem I've now had both a Xircom and a 3com card recommended to me that meet my requirements, including the international telepohony, but you are right, they are pricey. > If you can accept blind dialing, take a look at the Linksys line which > usually gives good value for the dollar. The Linksys combo card (PCMLM56) does in fact seem to support international phone standards, but is only a 16 bit card. Also, it has an integral connector block that sticks out on the end, so I don't see how I can close the door on my 560 with the card in place. However, the price is right - I might consider it for another machine. Thanks again. - David R. From cph Fri Nov 17 07:13:35 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id HAA25027 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:13:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12782; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:10:13 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12560; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:10:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12546; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:10:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.egenet.com.tr (212.175.201.3) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:10:09 -0500 Received: from tk-laptop (tk-laptop.egenet.com.tr [212.175.201.38]) by home.egenet.com.tr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA12779 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:08:59 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200011171208.OAA12779@home.egenet.com.tr> From: "turgut kalfaoglu" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:09:19 +0200 Reply-To: "turgut kalfaoglu" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.90.3000) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: A20m.. does it have an ethernet ? List-Unsubscribe: Hi there. I am not sure if my A20m has an ethernet combo in it.. Is there a way to find out? I opened up the back, and I see a mini-PCI card in it.. Windoze did not detect an ethernet card on board, so I plugged in my PCMCIA ethernet card. I'm wondering if there is a hidden ethernet card somewhere in there :) Thanks, -turgut ------------ EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr Find all of Turkey online: http://find.egenet.com.tr From cph Fri Nov 17 08:44:21 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id IAA25658 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:44:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17605; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:40:59 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17395; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:40:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from iso.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17381; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from iso.net (64.217.45.201 -> iso.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:40:55 -0500 Received: from iso.net (dial01.fyvl.telxcom.net [64.217.44.129]) by iso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA90522 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:41:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wvantuyl@iso.net) Message-ID: <3A15355C.3421314C@iso.net> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:40:45 -0600 From: William Van Tuyl Reply-To: wvantuyl@iso.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Pen tablet pens References: <200011170858.eAH8wZD28620@kogs45.informatik.uni-hamburg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi All, The 730T pen and the 360P pens look the same, feel the same, work the same, therefor... (if it looks like a duck...) Bill Sven Utcke wrote: > Hi James, > > > I've got a IBM 730T Pen Tablet. The stylus came with it and works > > fine, but I wanted to buy an extra. I've tried the palm pilot pens, > > and apparently they don't use the same mechanism. > > Not at all. They are just a piece of plastic. > > > The 730 manual indicates the pen works on some sort of > > electromagnetic principal. > > Indeed. > > > Do you know of any sources for a new stylus that would work? > > Well, the Linux-driver for the 360pe is basically a modified wacom > driver, so I think it is a fair guess that one of their pens might > work. If you buy it in a shop (rather than on ebay) you could always > test it first... > > Sven > -- > _ __ The Cognitive Systems Group > | |/ /___ __ _ ___ University of Hamburg > | ' |_|\_\___/\__, /__/ fax : +49 (0)40 42883-2572 D-22527 Hamburg > |___/ http://kogs-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~utcke/home.html From cph Fri Nov 17 11:38:27 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA26907 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:38:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11464; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:34:50 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11037; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:34:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11023; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:34:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:34:47 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-206.gate.net [199.227.131.15]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA49174; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:34:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3A155E1C.853255B7@gate.net> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:34:36 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: turgut kalfaoglu CC: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: A20m.. does it have an ethernet ? References: <200011171208.OAA12779@home.egenet.com.tr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: ethernet is optional when the machine has the combo card in it.. the smaller door on the bottom.. in there is the miniPCI socket and either the combo card or the V90 winmodem.. turgut kalfaoglu wrote: > Hi there. I am not sure if my A20m has an ethernet combo in it.. Is there a way to > find out? I opened up the back, and I see a mini-PCI card in it.. Windoze did > not detect an ethernet card on board, so I plugged in my PCMCIA ethernet card. > I'm wondering if there is a hidden ethernet card somewhere in there :) > > Thanks, -turgut > > ------------ > EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr > Find all of Turkey online: http://find.egenet.com.tr -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Fri Nov 17 16:10:25 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA29882 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:10:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17749; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:07:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:04:46 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17156; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from jpusa.org (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17057; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:04:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from jpusa.org (207.229.137.224 -> network.jpusa.dsl.enteract.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:04:15 -0500 Received: (from stu@localhost) by jpusa.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23282 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:04:09 -0600 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:04:09 -0600 From: Stu Heiss To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: tp600 and dvd Message-ID: <20001117150409.A9418@jpusa.jpusa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i List-Unsubscribe: I jsut picked up a dvd drive on fire-sale for my old 600 (266mhz). What do I need to make this work? Is there a software decoder that will work at all? The drive came with drivers for video and warm swap and dvd express. I hear that dvd express is not any good. I also hear that you should use the margi card on a slower notebook like this but I'd like to know if any of the software decoders will work at all. Regards, Stu From cph Fri Nov 17 16:12:19 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA29904 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:12:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18882; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:10:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:08:39 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17934; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:08:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17154; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (206.141.239.142 -> mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:04:46 -0500 Received: from Techshop ([64.108.9.60]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20001117210424.CTVO863.mailhost.chi.ameritech.net@Techshop>; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:04:24 -0600 Message-ID: <002401c050d8$8794ae40$0201a8c0@ameritech.net> From: "Matt Winston" To: , "David Ross" References: <000b01c05019$4627ecc0$8f5d1c3f@math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: [TPall/none] Combo card advice needed Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:54:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: I've had great luck with Xircom combo cards. Now using a CEM 56-100, which uses dongles. There is a miniport jack available if you don't like the cables. It's not cardbus, just 16 bit. Works with W9x, NT, Warp, Dos, W311. All pccards will allow your pcmcia door to close. Just insert the card, and a little lever will extend from the slot. Just pull it out a bit and flip to the right, and the tab slides away to allow pcmcia door to close. I've seen cards like these on ebay for around $50. Since everybody wants 32 bit cards now, these are discounted and still work great. My TP560, 360 and 730T use this card perfectly. Yes, there will still be room for a second card with almost any type of connector. Mine has had a pcmcia cd-rom running along with the NIC. Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ross" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 4:05 PM Subject: [TPall/none] Combo card advice needed Since the subject has come up (in a thread on the A21), I need some advice - I'm in the market for a network/modem combo card (to free up a pcmcia slot for other devices), but haven't seen any in the few local shops that meet all my needs. Here's what I want: (1) 10/100 ethernet + 56k modem, preferably cardbus; (2) Modem should be a non-win modem, and 'global class' (recognize non-US dial tones etc); (3) must give access to the second pcmcia slot (and a flat cable emerging from the center of its end) when in use; (4) I must be able to close the pcmcia door on my 560X when the card is inserted (but cable disconnected) for carrying - I suppose this means a dongle instead of xjack etc. Does anyone know which (if any) cards meet these requirements? The least important requirement is cardbus most important are (3) and (4). This is the problem with online research: specs are easy to find but it is really hard to figure out how these cards will actually fit on my machine! Thanks, David R. From cph Fri Nov 17 16:12:37 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA29920 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:12:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18837; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:10:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:08:45 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18003; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:08:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17921; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:08:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (206.141.239.142 -> mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:08:38 -0500 Received: from Techshop ([64.108.9.60]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20001117210837.CUMU863.mailhost.chi.ameritech.net@Techshop>; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:08:37 -0600 Message-ID: <003901c050d9$1e678540$0201a8c0@ameritech.net> From: "Matt Winston" To: , References: <3A15355C.3421314C@iso.net> Subject: Re: Pen tablet pens Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:58:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Actually, the 360 stylus is a bit longer (by 1/2") than the standard 730T stylus. It can make writing a bit easier, however you won't be able to use the 730T's pen holder as it's made for the shorter pen. Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Van Tuyl" Cc: Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 7:40 AM Subject: Re: Pen tablet pens Hi All, The 730T pen and the 360P pens look the same, feel the same, work the same, therefor... (if it looks like a duck...) Bill Sven Utcke wrote: > Hi James, > > > I've got a IBM 730T Pen Tablet. The stylus came with it and works > > fine, but I wanted to buy an extra. I've tried the palm pilot pens, > > and apparently they don't use the same mechanism. > > Not at all. They are just a piece of plastic. > > > The 730 manual indicates the pen works on some sort of > > electromagnetic principal. > > Indeed. > > > Do you know of any sources for a new stylus that would work? > > Well, the Linux-driver for the 360pe is basically a modified wacom > driver, so I think it is a fair guess that one of their pens might > work. If you buy it in a shop (rather than on ebay) you could always > test it first... > > Sven > -- > _ __ The Cognitive Systems Group > | |/ /___ __ _ ___ University of Hamburg > | ' |_|\_\___/\__, /__/ fax : +49 (0)40 42883-2572 D-22527 Hamburg > |___/ http://kogs-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~utcke/home.html From cph Fri Nov 17 16:30:16 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA30072 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:30:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22530; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:28:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:26:23 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22119; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:26:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from porkchop.ubh.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22081; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from porkchop.ubh.com (216.98.165.6) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:26:20 -0500 Received: by porkchop.ubh.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:29:33 -0600 Message-ID: From: Greg Langham To: "'Stu Heiss'" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: tp600 and dvd Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:29:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C050DD.79A3DB30" List-Unsubscribe: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C050DD.79A3DB30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Stu, My experience on a 266mhz 600 is that software decoding will be pretty jerky. I would recommend the margi card. Sorry I don't have any specifics on a software decoder, but I think you won't have much success even if you find one. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Stu Heiss [mailto:stu@jpusa.org] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 3:04 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: tp600 and dvd I jsut picked up a dvd drive on fire-sale for my old 600 (266mhz). What do I need to make this work? Is there a software decoder that will work at all? The drive came with drivers for video and warm swap and dvd express. I hear that dvd express is not any good. I also hear that you should use the margi card on a slower notebook like this but I'd like to know if any of the software decoders will work at all. 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Stu,

My experience on a 266mhz 600 is that software = decoding will be pretty jerky. I would recommend the margi card.

Sorry I don't have any specifics on a software = decoder, but I think you won't have much success even if you find = one.

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Heiss [mailto:stu@jpusa.org]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 3:04 PM
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: tp600 and dvd


I jsut picked up a dvd drive on fire-sale for my old = 600 (266mhz).
What do I need to make this work?  Is there a = software decoder
that will work at all?  The drive came with = drivers for video and
warm swap and dvd express.  I hear that dvd = express is not any good.
I also hear that you should use the margi card on a = slower notebook
like this but I'd like to know if any of the = software decoders will
work at all.

Regards,
Stu

------_=_NextPart_001_01C050DD.79A3DB30-- From cph Fri Nov 17 16:33:17 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA30111 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:33:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23356; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:31:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:30:08 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22896; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:30:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from srvr20.engin.umich.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22881; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:30:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from srvr20.engin.umich.edu (141.213.75.22 -> srvr20.engin.umich.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:30:06 -0500 Received: from azure.engin.umich.edu (root@azure.engin.umich.edu [141.213.74.24]) by srvr20.engin.umich.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA10649 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:30:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (yuchenl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by azure.engin.umich.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA21398 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:30:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:30:02 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry Lin To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [T20/win2000]function key fails Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, I recently installed win2k on my T20 and it worked fine till now. But I noticed some function keys that used to work on win98 failed on win2000. "Fn+F3" and "Thinkpad" key don't give any response when I press now. I updated all the latest drive from ibm support. Nothing improved. Win2000 doesn't fully support T series? or I have to buy any win2000 special edition for T20? Any comment? TIA! -Jerry From cph Fri Nov 17 16:47:23 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA30219 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:47:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25844; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:45:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:43:57 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25338; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:43:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25325; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:43:55 -0500 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08665; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:43:52 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-ID: <3A15A698.C5713911@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:43:52 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18-pre20.1.smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry Lin CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [T20/win2000]function key fails References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hmm... It works on my T20 and I installed W2K from scratch plus all the relevant T20 IBM drivers. Did you install the ThinkPad Configuration utility? --Lee Hetherington From cph Fri Nov 17 17:28:46 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA30547 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:28:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02300; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:27:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:23:52 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00995; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:23:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00973; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:23:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:23:48 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA24098; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:23:27 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001c01c050e5$036bc060$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Matt Winston" , References: <000b01c05019$4627ecc0$8f5d1c3f@math.hawaii.edu> <002401c050d8$8794ae40$0201a8c0@ameritech.net> Subject: Re: [TPall/none] Combo card advice needed Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:23:29 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > I've had great luck with Xircom combo cards. Now using a CEM 56-100, which > uses dongles. Yes, the newer cardbus version of this card is one of the two top candidates. > All pccards will allow your pcmcia door to close. Just insert the card, and > a little lever will extend from the slot. Unfortunately, this is not true. Some cards have big honking plastic docking bits at the end which protrude past flush with the slot, and many of the others have slightly smaller but still too-big docking bits that block the second slot (or at best block any cable coming out of the second slot). "I've seen cards like these on ebay for around $50. Since everybody wants 32 bit cards now, these are discounted and still work great." I have to buy from someone who issues bids and accepts purchase orders, as it is for business use (and therefore not coming directly out of my pocket). Thanks for the suggestion. - David R. From cph Fri Nov 17 17:29:44 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA30574 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:29:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02678; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:28:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:26:43 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01989; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01975; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:26:40 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA24109; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:26:19 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <003401c050e5$69ec4a80$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Stu Heiss" , References: <20001117150409.A9418@jpusa.jpusa.net> Subject: Re: tp600 and dvd Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:26:21 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > I jsut picked up a dvd drive on fire-sale for my old 600 (266mhz). > What do I need to make this work? Is there a software decoder > that will work at all? 266 is too slow unless the video card is ATI (which I think it is not in that machine). I saw the Margi somewhere cheap recently - try Centrix. - David R. From cph Fri Nov 17 17:45:45 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA30700 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:45:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05441; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:44:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:43:07 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05049; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:43:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05023; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie.loop.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:43:03 -0500 Received: from tp701.pkhoury.com (p36.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.99]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA90260; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:36:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011172236.OAA90260@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Matt Winston" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:46:26 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Pen tablet pens List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:58:20 -0600, Matt Winston wrote: >Actually, the 360 stylus is a bit longer (by 1/2") than the standard 730T >stylus. It can make writing a bit easier, however you won't be able to use >the 730T's pen holder as it's made for the shorter pen. Unless of course you use the velco case for the 730T. Which isn't very tough - under light to medium use, the velcro is already falling apart. Paul From cph Fri Nov 17 17:46:06 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA30705 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:46:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05446; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:44:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:42:58 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04997; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:42:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04967; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:42:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie.loop.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:42:55 -0500 Received: from tp701.pkhoury.com (p36.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.99]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA90167; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:35:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011172235.OAA90167@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Sven Utcke" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:44:43 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Pen tablet pens List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:58:33 +0100 (MET), Sven Utcke wrote: > >Well, the Linux-driver for the 360pe is basically a modified wacom >driver, so I think it is a fair guess that one of their pens might >work. If you buy it in a shop (rather than on ebay) you could always >test it first... > The 750P or 360PE should also work, AFAIK they are the same deal. So they finally have pen support in Linux? From cph Fri Nov 17 21:11:35 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA32218 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:11:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24581; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:10:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:08:35 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24257; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:08:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24242; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:08:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (207.69.200.243 -> maynard.mail.mindspring.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:08:33 -0500 Received: from tp1721 (user-33qt86g.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.160.208]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA31395 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:08:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003201c05104$77850820$d0a0aec7@tp1721> From: "Chuck S." To: References: <3A155E1C.853255B7@gate.net> Subject: What are A20 owners doing for service after the one year warranty is up? Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 20:08:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: I think it's shameful that IBM is not offering an extended warranty for the A20 series. Two years ago I bought n i-Series model 2627, which back then was identical to a 390. I knew it only had a one year warranty, which I was told by IBM I could extend to a 3 year EZ-SERV warranty any time during the first year. But when I tried to extend the service after 9 months, I was told that it was no longer offered for the I Series. Then, just before the 1 year anniversary date, I learned that PC Connections was offering an extended IBM EZ-SERVE warranty on selected IBM laptops, including the i-Series. So I bought it. The cost was well worth it, since I've had to send my laptop in for service 4 times, which surprised me, since I use it as a second desktop, and have only taken on the road twice. And I'm really careful with my stuff. So laptops break even under ideal conditions, and a one year warranty does not offer adequate protection. It appears IBM has changed its mind again, and the only way to get a 3 year EZ-SERV warranty is to purchase a T20 or X20 series. If IBM doesn't start paying more attention to the needs of its customers, their laptop business will be in the toilet with their desktop business, and I will be the proud owner of a Dell Inspirion 8000. From cph Fri Nov 17 23:49:31 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA00421 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:49:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07434; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:48:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:46:15 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07102; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07089; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:46:10 -0500 Received: from adsl-151-202-18-129.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net (adsl-151-202-18-129.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.202.18.129]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA25409; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:46:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011180446.XAA25409@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> From: "Philip R. Mann" To: "Chuck S." , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:46:07 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Philip R. Mann" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <003201c05104$77850820$d0a0aec7@tp1721> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What are A20 owners doing for service after the one year warranty is up? List-Unsubscribe: I'm forwarding to you directly a PDF file I found on the IBM site with the product number for extended warranties for the A20; you can purchase the extended warranty online from IBM. ----- PRM ----- From cph Sat Nov 18 00:23:09 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA00895 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:23:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10660; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:22:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:20:27 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10424; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:20:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:20:26 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id AAA28015 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06440; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:38:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011180438.XAA06440@cs.utk.edu> Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.32 -> out2.prserv.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:38:52 -0500 Received: from slip202-135-81-215.bg.th.ibm.net ([202.135.81.215]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2000111804373720203h6qupe>; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 04:37:51 +0000 From: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" To: "before@cbn.net.id" , "Stu Heiss" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Cc: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 09:19:35 +0700 Reply-To: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: tp600 and dvd List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:04:09 -0600, Stu Heiss wrote: >I jsut picked up a dvd drive on fire-sale for my old 600 (266mhz). >What do I need to make this work? From a posting on another list today: From: "Bill Wolff" To: "WordStar Mailing List" Subject: The Guide to DVD (aka DVD FAQ) Hi Mike (and anybody else interested in DVD stuff). Here is a URL, which contains files in HTML format. And unZip them in their own folder. It speaks of the regional settings and which DVD drives allows you to reset them as many times as you want to, etc. This Zip file pretty much tells you everything you ever wanted to know about DVD drives, in plain and simple language. http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/support/begin.zip And from another list: THE STATE OF DVD ON OS/2 Looks at the state of DVD industry both in movies and broadcasting and looks at how it can be used in OS/2. http://www.os2ezine.com/v5n1/dvd.html From cph Sat Nov 18 11:14:51 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA04194 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:14:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21728; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:14:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:41 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21370; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-0.ziplink.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21356; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-0.ziplink.net (206.15.168.49 -> relay-0.ziplink.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:39 -0500 Received: from dallas (quincy-ip-7-52.dynamic.ziplink.net [209.206.27.52]) by relay-0.ziplink.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id eAIGAVn12934 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike Capone" To: Subject: RE: What are A20 owners doing for service after the one year warranty is up? Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:11:55 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c0517a$453b7b80$1b00a8c0@dallas> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003201c05104$77850820$d0a0aec7@tp1721> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 List-Unsubscribe: Hmm, looks like the A21P has a 3 year warranty stock. I am kind of confused though, I think at a minimum there should be a 3 year on anything that costs 2K or more. I know this is not true for all of IBMs laptops. Four times? Thats an awful lot; Yes, laptops are more failure prone than typical computers, but typically any non-abused note that has more than 2 incidents over a period of a few years is really pushing it, which I believe is the reason why many people question the build quality on IBMs lower end products. Not to say the higher end units don't have trouble either, but definitely not with the same frequency. I believe "low end" should be merely a reduction in bells and whistles, and not build quality. (much in the way low end japanese cars typically work okay, just that they're not fancy!) -Mike > I think it's shameful that IBM is not offering an extended > warranty for the > A20 series. Two years ago I bought n i-Series model 2627, which back then > was identical to a 390. I knew it only had a one year warranty, > which I was > told by IBM I could extend to a 3 year EZ-SERV warranty any time > during the > first year. But when I tried to extend the service after 9 months, I was > told that it was no longer offered for the I Series. Then, just > before the > 1 year anniversary date, I learned that PC Connections was offering an > extended IBM EZ-SERVE warranty on selected IBM laptops, including the > i-Series. So I bought it. The cost was well worth it, since I've had to > send my laptop in for service 4 times, which surprised me, since > I use it as > a second desktop, and have only taken on the road twice. And I'm really > careful with my stuff. So laptops break even under ideal > conditions, and a > one year warranty does not offer adequate protection. It appears IBM has > changed its mind again, and the only way to get a 3 year EZ-SERV > warranty is > to purchase a T20 or X20 series. If IBM doesn't start paying more > attention > to the needs of its customers, their laptop business will be in the toilet > with their desktop business, and I will be the proud owner of a Dell > Inspirion 8000. > > From cph Sat Nov 18 13:22:45 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA05004 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:22:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01230; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:22:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:20:34 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00918; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:20:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns1.psnet.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00904; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns1.psnet.net (216.98.165.1 -> psnet.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:20:33 -0500 Received: from adam (216.98.165.91 [216.98.165.91]) by ns1.psnet.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id W38P6KDP; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:19:49 -0600 Reply-To: From: "Robert W. King" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Strange Problem Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:19:45 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200011170811.DAA23252@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> List-Unsubscribe: Hi Folks! I have a strange problem with my 770ED on which I am running Windows 2000. Recently, due to line noise, I had to throttle my modem down to 14,400 baud in order to send and receive from my ISP. Previously, I had been able to connect at 24,000 but the error rate once connected prevented any successful data transfer. The telephone company has supposedly repaired the problem. I would like to see if the line noise problem has been solved and my modem could run at speeds greater than 14,400 baud again. However, the ThinkPad Modem program will only come up in minimized mode. I can't get to the menu to change the option settings where the connect speed is selected. I've tried putting the modem control strings in the modem properties, but they're ignored. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the modem. I'm still hung up at 14,400. The ThinkPad Modem program icon actually executes the command "C:\WINNT\mwcloadw.exe loadapplet:modem" but when I went snooping around in the executable file I couldn't find a way to tell it to start up in a normal mode. Changing the program icon properties from running in a Normal window to a Maximized window had no effect. I even went snooping through the registry searching on the strings 'modem' and 'run' but didn't find anything that seemed to pertain to the situation. Do you have any ideas how to force this bloody applet to release control of my modem? -- Robert W. King I'm an ingenieur, NOT a bloody locomotive driver! SnailNet: 19023 TV Tower Rd, Winslow, Arkansas 72959 BellNet: 501-634-2086 InterNet: robert@wildweasel.net Web site: http://www.wildweasel.net -----Original Message----- From: Philip R. Mann [mailto:prmlaw@bellatlantic.net] Sent: Friday, 17 November 2000 02:12 To: David Ross; THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: [TPall/none] Combo card advice needed On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:05:02 -1000, David Ross wrote: >I'm in the market for a >network/modem combo card (to free up a pcmcia slot for other devices), but >haven't seen any in the few local >shops that meet all my needs. Here's what I want: (1) 10/100 ethernet + 56k >modem, preferably cardbus; >(2) Modem should be a non-win modem, and 'global class' (recognize non-US dial >tones etc); (3) must give >access to the second pcmcia slot (and a flat cable emerging from the center of >its end) when in use; >(4) I must be able to close the pcmcia door on my 560X when the card is >inserted (but cable disconnected) >for carrying - I suppose this means a dongle instead of xjack etc. I think your biggest difficulty will be item 2 concerning world class modem --- you might have to settle for US modem and changing the initiation string from X4 to X3 (if memory serves) to have blind dialing. If anyone has the card you want, it probably is 3Com under the USRobotics or MegaHertz labels and you're probably talking big $. If you can accept blind dialing, take a look at the Linksys line which usually gives good value for the dollar. ----- PRM ----- From cph Sat Nov 18 13:31:01 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA05050 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:31:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02499; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:30:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:29:09 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02197; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from jpusa.org (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02184; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from jpusa.org (207.229.137.224 -> network.jpusa.dsl.enteract.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:29:05 -0500 Received: (from stu@localhost) by jpusa.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17432 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:29:05 -0600 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:29:05 -0600 From: Stu Heiss To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: tp600, dvd, and margi dvd-to-go Message-ID: <20001118122904.A3643@jpusa.jpusa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i List-Unsubscribe: Thus spake Stu Heiss (stu@jpusa.org): > I jsut picked up a dvd drive on fire-sale for my old 600 (266mhz). On the advice of several, I bought a margi card asuming it will send the audio back into the thinkpad via the zoomed video port. The card I got was also a fire-sale oem'd for gateway and comes with no software or dongle. I've got the driver from margi's site but hope I don't need the dongle. Is that so? Regards, Stu From cph Sat Nov 18 13:45:02 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA05136 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:45:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04132; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:44:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:43:07 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03891; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:43:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from coppi.networktest.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03878; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from coppi.networktest.com (209.187.11.98 -> nyc-28-h-98.nyc.dsl.cerfnet.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:43:02 -0500 Received: from miles ([192.168.1.2]) by coppi.networktest.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA16865 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:51:17 -0600 From: "David Newman" To: Subject: aftermarket Ethernet for T21? Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:43:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <000001c0517a$453b7b80$1b00a8c0@dallas> List-Unsubscribe: just got a sweet deal on a T21 2647-67U. However, as supplied the system doesn't include an Ethernet adapter. Questions: 1. IBM's site mentions a "10/100 EtherJet Mini PCI Adapter." Is this the integrated card? (ie, not a PC Card?) 2. Is this adapter available for sale? If so, are there other sources than IBM? 3. Finally, I'd like to run either Linux or one of the BSDs on this box. Any experiences with the integrated card and *nix? Am I better off just going with PC Card Ethernet (and for that matter, PC Card modem)? Thanks David Newman From cph Sat Nov 18 14:35:50 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA05388 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 14:35:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09223; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 14:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 14:33:12 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08849; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 14:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08828; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 14:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 14:33:11 -0500 Received: from p3-1ghz (client-151-204-210-97.delval.dialup.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.97]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA26869; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 14:33:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001118143159.028bdf10@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 14:34:01 -0500 To: "David Newman" , From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: aftermarket Ethernet for T21? In-Reply-To: References: <000001c0517a$453b7b80$1b00a8c0@dallas> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: The mini-pci combo adapter is available from two vendors right now: Intel 08K3124 3Com 09N9774 Both are sold by numerous vendors and the price seems to be right around ~$200.00 +/- ~13.00. At 01:43 PM 11/18/00 -0500, David Newman wrote: >just got a sweet deal on a T21 2647-67U. However, as supplied the system >doesn't include an Ethernet adapter. > >Questions: > >1. IBM's site mentions a "10/100 EtherJet Mini PCI Adapter." Is this the >integrated card? (ie, not a PC Card?) > >2. Is this adapter available for sale? If so, are there other sources than >IBM? > >3. Finally, I'd like to run either Linux or one of the BSDs on this box. Any >experiences with the integrated card and *nix? Am I better off just going >with PC Card Ethernet (and for that matter, PC Card modem)? > >Thanks > >David Newman From cph Sat Nov 18 16:20:43 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA06068 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:20:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17858; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:19:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:17:20 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17519; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:17:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17505; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:17:17 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.49 -> mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:17:17 -0500 Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.135.42]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001118211716.MIYM13270.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 21:17:16 +0000 Received: from [24.190.235.208] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 21:17:16 +0000 To: Stu Heiss Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: tp600, dvd, and margi dvd-to-go Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 21:17:16 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 2 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: scosgt@att.net Message-Id: <20001118211716.MIYM13270.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> List-Unsubscribe: You don;t need the dongle except to send the output to TV, and for the record the Margi card will work perfectly on a properly equipped P133 > Thus spake Stu Heiss (stu@jpusa.org): > > I jsut picked up a dvd drive on fire-sale for my old 600 (266mhz). > On the advice of several, I bought a margi card asuming it will send > the audio back into the thinkpad via the zoomed video port. The > card I got was also a fire-sale oem'd for gateway and comes with no > software or dongle. I've got the driver from margi's site but hope > I don't need the dongle. Is that so? > > Regards, > Stu From cph Sat Nov 18 18:37:42 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA06673 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:37:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00029; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:34:49 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29767; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:34:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29757; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:34:48 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.37 -> imo-d05.mx.aol.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:34:48 -0500 Received: from Elipse748@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.33.) id o.a8.d372709 (16486) for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:34:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:34:38 EST Subject: TFT Screen for TP 560E To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a8.d372709.27486c0e_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 List-Unsubscribe: --part1_a8.d372709.27486c0e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Can anyone on the list suggest where I might purchase a replacement screen? My daughter dropped the machine, and it of course broke. Also, has anyone had a problem with the keyboard on an i1452? On re-boot I always must use Shift+Scroll lock to turn off the embedded keypad. I upgraded the original WIN98 to SE and then to ME. This problem has been there with all. Thanks Ed --part1_a8.d372709.27486c0e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi
Can anyone on the list suggest where I might purchase a replacement screen?  
My daughter dropped the machine, and it of course broke.  Also, has anyone
had a problem with the keyboard on an i1452?  On re-boot I always must use
Shift+Scroll lock to turn off the embedded keypad.  I upgraded the original
WIN98 to SE and then to ME.  This problem has been there with all.

Thanks

Ed --part1_a8.d372709.27486c0e_boundary-- From cph Sat Nov 18 18:52:35 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA06862 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:52:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02032; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:51:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:50:23 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01838; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01825; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:50:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.51 -> mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:50:22 -0500 Received: from 236.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.152.236]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001118235021.MPXL20084.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@236.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 23:50:21 +0000 From: epbrown01@att.net (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TFT Screen for TP 560E Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 23:50:20 GMT Reply-To: epbrown01@att.net Message-ID: <3a18153b.37046848@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id SAA06863 On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 18:34:38 EST, you wrote: >Can anyone on the list suggest where I might purchase a replacement screen? >My daughter dropped the machine, and it of course broke. Also, has anyone >had a problem with the keyboard on an i1452? On re-boot I always must use >Shift+Scroll lock to turn off the embedded keypad. I upgraded the original >WIN98 to SE and then to ME. This problem has been there with all. Can't help with the screen replacement, except to suggest www.man-machine.com or www.buylcd.com and see what's available. As far as the keyboard problem, the only time I've heard of this problem, the person also used an external keyboard to their laptop with this setting as the default. Once it's detached, the setting remains the default on the internal keyboard - maybe that applies in your case? Emanuel "Everybody wants a normal life and a cool car; most people settle for the car." Chris Titus 1983 911 SC http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/91183.jpg From cph Sun Nov 19 04:31:32 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id EAA09397 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 04:31:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11812; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 04:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 04:28:19 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11569; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 04:28:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11551; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 04:28:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011190928.EAA11551@cs.utk.edu> Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.34 -> out4.prserv.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 04:28:11 -0500 Received: from slip202-135-81-155.bg.th.ibm.net ([202.135.81.155]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2000111909280120401m5qlae>; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:28:07 +0000 From: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" To: "masserbates@hotmail.com" , "David Reid" , "Derek F. Payne" , "Thinkpad List" Cc: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 15:50:29 +0700 Reply-To: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Quicktime on 600E List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:58:14 -0500, David Reid wrote: >I don't recall the specific file name, it may have even been a BIOS update >but if you take a look at IBMs 770 support site, you should find mention of >this issue. >On the other hand, it may be with Quicktime. I recently installed it and it >ran beatifully until I rebooted the machine and now it may take up to a >minute or so before a quicktime associated file will open. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Derek F. Payne" >To: "Thinkpad List" >Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:50 PM>Subject: Audio problems on 770 >> The audio on my 770 has started stuttering. It first happened when I was >> trying to play a Quicktime movie, I haven't been able to get it to work >> right since. I have tried reinstalling the drivers, with no luck. Any help >> would be appreciated.>> Derek Payne I am running an OS/2 version 2.1 which stutters. Was a fix ever found which might help me on the OS/2 install? Jeffrey Race From cph Sun Nov 19 09:31:03 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id JAA20827 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:31:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28364; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:30:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:28:42 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28146; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28133; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:28:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (205.216.137.2 -> pantano.theriver.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:28:40 -0500 Received: from theriver.com (206-97-58-215.ip.theriver.com [206.97.58.215]) by pantano.theriver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1BB26105; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 07:28:36 -0700 (MST) Sender: root@theriver.com Message-ID: <3A17E4D1.4EA5877A@theriver.com> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 07:33:53 -0700 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75C-CCK-MCD Caldera Systems OpenLinux [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" Cc: "masserbates@hotmail.com" , David Reid , Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Quicktime on 600E References: <200011190928.EAA11551@cs.utk.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:58:14 -0500, David Reid wrote: > >I don't recall the specific file name, it may have even been a BIOS update > >but if you take a look at IBMs 770 support site, you should find mention of > >this issue. > >On the other hand, it may be with Quicktime. I recently installed it and it > >ran beatifully until I rebooted the machine and now it may take up to a > >minute or so before a quicktime associated file will open. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Derek F. Payne" > >To: "Thinkpad List" >Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:50 > PM>Subject: Audio problems on 770 > >> The audio on my 770 has started stuttering. It first happened when I was > >> trying to play a Quicktime movie, I haven't been able to get it to work > >> right since. I have tried reinstalling the drivers, with no luck. Any help > >> would be appreciated.>> Derek Payne > > I am running an OS/2 version 2.1 which stutters. Was a fix > ever found which might help me on the OS/2 install? The solution is to get your hands on a copy of Warp 4.0. OS/2 version 2.1 is no longer supported by IBM and various program producers. James Mckenzie From cph Sun Nov 19 09:54:24 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id JAA20902 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:54:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00133; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:54:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:52:43 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29924; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:52:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29910; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:52:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (194.75.152.224 -> doggy.lineone.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:52:40 -0500 Received: from hicdbs (host212-140-108-59.btinternet.com [212.140.108.59]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA19401 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:52:29 GMT Message-Id: <200011191452.OAA19401@scooby.lineone.net> From: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" To: "thinkpad" Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:52:28 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <200011190928.EAA11551@cs.utk.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Quicktime on 600E List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id JAA00133 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id JAA20903 On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 15:50:29 +0700, Dr. Jeffrey Race wrote: >I am running an OS/2 version 2.1 which stutters. Was a fix >ever found which might help me on the OS/2 install? 2.1??? You'd better upgrade to 4.5. þ H.I.C. & D.B.S. þ OS/2 Warp þ Hellas þ þ ServerConfig þ ConfigEdit þ OS/2 UK UG þ From cph Sun Nov 19 12:00:17 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA21752 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:00:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09402; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:59:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:57:17 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09087; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix2.free.fr (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09043; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix2.free.fr (212.27.32.74 -> postfix2.free.fr) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:57:14 -0500 Received: from tp-560 (paris11-nas3-44-11.dial.proxad.net [212.27.44.11]) by postfix2.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C2A7741FF for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:57:07 +0100 (MET) From: "Sylvestre Meininger" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:53:11 +0100 Reply-To: "Sylvestre Meininger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: External HD for backup Message-Id: <20001119165707.6C2A7741FF@postfix2.free.fr> List-Unsubscribe: Hello there, Having parted with a trustee 770ed with great sadness, I'm now the owner of a lone 560z. And I'd like to know if I can use a 9 or 12.5mm Travelstar drive externally for backup ? I guess there must be some kind of PC Card/SCSI/USB (not Parallel !) external "box" I could put the drive into so I can backup my entire internal HD to the other drive. But I may also need to put this second HD into the laptop. So I'm not interested in the "External Travelstar" IBM sells since, from what I understood, it can't be used internally. Thanks for your suggestions, sylvestre From cph Sun Nov 19 12:56:51 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA22091 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:56:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14371; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:56:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:54:54 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14092; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:54:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14079; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110 -> smtp6.mindspring.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:54:53 -0500 Received: from user-37ka0k5.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37ka0k5.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.2.133]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA31670; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:54:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011191754.MAA31670@smtp6.mindspring.com> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" , "thinkpad" Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:57:03 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <200011191452.OAA19401@scooby.lineone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Quicktime on 600E List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id MAA22092 Yea, 4.5 is cool but -- 2.1, wow! Just the thought is amazing! On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:52:28 +0000 (GMT), Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis wrote: >On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 15:50:29 +0700, Dr. Jeffrey Race wrote: > >>I am running an OS/2 version 2.1 which stutters. Was a fix >>ever found which might help me on the OS/2 install? > >2.1??? You'd better upgrade to 4.5. > >þ H.I.C. & D.B.S. þ OS/2 Warp þ Hellas þ >þ ServerConfig þ ConfigEdit þ OS/2 UK UG þ > From cph Sun Nov 19 13:15:09 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA22193 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:15:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16404; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:14:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:12:59 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16182; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:12:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16171; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:12:58 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.39 -> imo-d07.mx.aol.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:12:58 -0500 Received: from JEShoemaker@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.33.) id o.6.e29b484 (4398); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:12:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6.e29b484.27497227@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:12:55 EST Subject: Re: External HD for backup To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu CC: sylme@free.fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6.e29b484.27497227_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 List-Unsubscribe: --part1_6.e29b484.27497227_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/19/2000 12:16:39 Eastern Standard Time, owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu writes: > Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:53:11 +0100 > From: "Sylvestre Meininger" > Reply-To: "Sylvestre Meininger" > To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" > Subject: External HD for backup > Message-Id: <20001119165707.6C2A7741FF@postfix2.free.fr> > > Hello there, > > Having parted with a trustee 770ed with great sadness, I'm now the owner of > a lone 560z. > And I'd like to know if I can use a 9 or 12.5mm Travelstar drive externally > for backup ? > I guess there must be some kind of PC Card/SCSI/USB (not Parallel !) > external "box" I could put the > drive into so I can backup my entire internal HD to the other drive. > But I may also need to put this second HD into the laptop. So I'm not > interested in the "External > Travelstar" IBM sells since, from what I understood, it can't be used > internally. > > Thanks for your suggestions, > Sylvestre, checkout: Pocket Mirror Drive at DST http://www.dst3.com Email Danny at: techinfo@dst3.com I've used this for a couple years with a 560e. It comes with imaging software. Once you've made the initial image (2 hours), then backups only take 2-5 minutes. It allows you to copy to image back onto the internal hard drive. Or, you can take the external drive and insert it into the laptop and boot. Regards, John --part1_6.e29b484.27497227_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/19/2000 12:16:39 Eastern Standard Time,
owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu writes:


Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:53:11 +0100
From: "Sylvestre Meininger" <sylme@free.fr>
Reply-To: "Sylvestre Meininger" <sylme@free.fr>
To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" <THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: External HD for backup
Message-Id: <20001119165707.6C2A7741FF@postfix2.free.fr>

Hello there,

Having parted with a trustee 770ed with great sadness, I'm now the owner of
a lone 560z.
And I'd like to know if I can use a 9 or 12.5mm Travelstar drive externally
for backup ?
I guess there must be some kind of PC Card/SCSI/USB (not Parallel !)
external "box" I could put the
drive into so I can backup my entire internal HD to the other drive.
But I may also need to put this second HD into the laptop. So I'm not
interested in the "External
Travelstar" IBM sells since, from what I understood, it can't be used
internally.

Thanks for your suggestions,
sylvestre


Sylvestre, checkout:

Pocket Mirror Drive at DST
  http://www.dst3.com
  Email Danny at:  techinfo@dst3.com

I've used this for a couple years with a 560e.  It comes with imaging
software.  Once you've made the initial image (2 hours), then backups
only take 2-5 minutes.  It allows you to copy to image back onto the
internal hard drive.  Or, you can take the external drive and insert it
into the laptop and boot.

Regards,

John

--part1_6.e29b484.27497227_boundary-- From cph Sun Nov 19 13:59:31 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA22420 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:59:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20404; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:58:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:57:19 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20140; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix3.free.fr (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20127; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix3.free.fr (212.27.32.22 -> postfix3.free.fr) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:57:17 -0500 Received: from tp-560 (paris11-nas8-55-240.dial.proxad.net [212.27.55.240]) by postfix3.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AD3D86C1A; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:57:15 +0100 (CET) From: "Sylvestre Meininger" To: "JEShoemaker@aol.com" Cc: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:57:56 +0100 Reply-To: "Sylvestre Meininger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) In-Reply-To: <6.e29b484.27497227@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: External HD for backup Message-Id: <20001119185715.7AD3D86C1A@postfix3.free.fr> List-Unsubscribe: Thanks a lot John, I just e-mailed DST to know if they sell only the enclosure, so I don't have to buy another HD from them. From cph Sun Nov 19 17:22:11 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA23665 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:22:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08448; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:21:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:19:43 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08163; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9506.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08149; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9506.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.129.20 -> web9506.mail.yahoo.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:19:40 -0500 Message-ID: <20001119221939.67000.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.221.61.56] by web9506.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:19:39 PST Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:19:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: Re: TFT Screen for TP 560E To: Elipse748@aol.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: If your BIOS doesn't support setting Scroll lock, there is a command to put in the startup files in Win98 to turn on or off Scroll lock each time it boots. You can find it in the Microsoft Knowledge Base. Don't know if it works in WinME, though. --- Elipse748@aol.com wrote: Also, has anyone > had a problem with the keyboard on an i1452? On > re-boot I always must use > Shift+Scroll lock to turn off the embedded keypad. > I upgraded the original > WIN98 to SE and then to ME. This problem has been > there with all. > > Thanks > > Ed > ===== Sprint Broadband Direct Sucks, they should call it Sprint Narrowband! That is, when it's not DOWN! My old phone modem was faster! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ From cph Sun Nov 19 20:33:21 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA24790 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:33:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20878; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:30:12 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20566; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:30:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20553; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:30:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011200130.UAA20553@cs.utk.edu> Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.35 -> out5.prserv.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:30:08 -0500 Received: from slip202-135-81-25.bg.th.ibm.net ([202.135.81.25]) by prserv.net (out5) with SMTP id <2000112001295620504d06lne>; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 01:29:58 +0000 From: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" , "thinkpad" Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:29:53 +0700 Reply-To: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Quicktime on 600E List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:52:28 +0000 (GMT), Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis wrote: >On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 15:50:29 +0700, Dr. Jeffrey Race wrote: >>I am running an OS/2 version 2.1 which stutters. Was a fix >>ever found which might help me on the OS/2 install? >2.1??? You'd better upgrade to 4.5. Sorry, I meant Quicktime 2.1 on OS/2 Warp 4 Jeffrey Race From cph Sun Nov 19 22:52:52 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA25378 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:52:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29657; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:52:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:50:08 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29417; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:50:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29404; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:50:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (216.33.240.183 -> f308.law8.hotmail.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:50:06 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:50:03 -0800 Received: from 141.209.242.121 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 03:50:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [141.209.242.121] From: "J W" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Hard drive caddy for 770e Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 03:50:03 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2000 03:50:03.0556 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6D3BE40:01C052A4] List-Unsubscribe: ANybody knows where to get a hdd caddy for 770e ?? i think the HDD is 17mm. thanks. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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From cph Sun Nov 19 23:22:19 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA25514 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:22:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02541; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:21:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:20:12 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02299; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:20:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02267; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:20:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:20:09 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA02637; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 18:18:37 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001101c052a9$1c6e1160$6053193f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Sylvestre Meininger" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" References: <20001119165707.6C2A7741FF@postfix2.free.fr> Subject: Re: External HD for backup Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 18:17:56 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > And I'd like to know if I can use a 9 or 12.5mm Travelstar drive externally for backup ? > I guess there must be some kind of PC Card/SCSI/USB (not Parallel !) external "box" I could put the > drive into so I can backup my entire internal HD to the other drive. Several people make them, and most of the big hardware vendors sell at least one. I have one for desktop (3.5") drives from H45 which works a treat (cost me $89 from Frys a couple of years ago), they also make a "pocketdrive" for 2.5" disks. Too bad you don't need the disk itself, the external Travelstar drives are now showing up refurbed for well under $200 - David R. From cph Mon Nov 20 00:44:46 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA26154 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:44:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09104; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:43:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:41:36 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08736; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08723; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:41:34 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-322.gate.net [199.227.173.68]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA65834; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:41:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3A18B98A.69F4F249@gate.net> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:41:30 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: J W CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard drive caddy for 770e References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: http://thinkpads.com J W wrote: > ANybody knows where to get a hdd caddy for 770e ?? i think the HDD is 17mm. > > thanks. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Mon Nov 20 00:51:24 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA26188 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:51:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10159; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:50:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:48:50 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09949; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09936; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:48:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:48:49 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-322.gate.net [199.227.173.68]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA66140; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:48:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3A18BB31.7E9A48EB@gate.net> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:48:33 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: robert@wildweasel.net CC: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Re: Strange Problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: have you tried double clicking on the tiny icon..?? i KNOW theres a way to get it back, i just can't recall.. :-) "Robert W. King" wrote: > Hi Folks! > > I have a strange problem with my 770ED on which I am running Windows 2000. > Recently, due to line noise, I had to throttle my modem down to 14,400 baud > in order to send and receive from my ISP. Previously, I had been able to > connect at 24,000 but the error rate once connected prevented any successful > data transfer. The telephone company has supposedly repaired the problem. > > I would like to see if the line noise problem has been solved and my modem > could run at speeds greater than 14,400 baud again. However, the ThinkPad > Modem program will only come up in minimized mode. I can't get to the menu > to change the option settings where the connect speed is selected. I've > tried putting the modem control strings in the modem properties, but they're > ignored. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the modem. I'm still hung up > at 14,400. > > The ThinkPad Modem program icon actually executes the command > "C:\WINNT\mwcloadw.exe loadapplet:modem" but when I went snooping around in > the executable file I couldn't find a way to tell it to start up in a normal > mode. Changing the program icon properties from running in a Normal window > to a Maximized window had no effect. I even went snooping through the > registry searching on the strings 'modem' and 'run' but didn't find anything > that seemed to pertain to the situation. > > Do you have any ideas how to force this bloody applet to release control of > my modem? > > -- > Robert W. King > I'm an ingenieur, NOT a bloody locomotive driver! > SnailNet: 19023 TV Tower Rd, Winslow, Arkansas 72959 > BellNet: 501-634-2086 > InterNet: robert@wildweasel.net > Web site: http://www.wildweasel.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip R. Mann [mailto:prmlaw@bellatlantic.net] > Sent: Friday, 17 November 2000 02:12 > To: David Ross; THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU > Subject: Re: [TPall/none] Combo card advice needed > > On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:05:02 -1000, David Ross wrote: > > >I'm in the market for a > >network/modem combo card (to free up a pcmcia slot for other devices), > but > >haven't seen any in the few local > >shops that meet all my needs. Here's what I want: (1) 10/100 ethernet > + 56k > >modem, preferably cardbus; > >(2) Modem should be a non-win modem, and 'global class' (recognize > non-US dial > >tones etc); (3) must give > >access to the second pcmcia slot (and a flat cable emerging from the > center of > >its end) when in use; > >(4) I must be able to close the pcmcia door on my 560X when the card is > >inserted (but cable disconnected) > >for carrying - I suppose this means a dongle instead of xjack etc. > > I think your biggest difficulty will be item 2 concerning world class > modem > --- you might have to settle for US modem and changing the initiation > string > from X4 to X3 (if memory serves) to have blind dialing. If anyone has > the > card you want, it probably is 3Com under the USRobotics or MegaHertz > labels > and you're probably talking big $. > > If you can accept blind dialing, take a look at the Linksys line which > usually gives good value for the dollar. > > ----- PRM ----- -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Mon Nov 20 00:57:50 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA26212 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:57:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11146; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:56:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:55:18 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10905; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:55:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10892; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:55:17 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-322.gate.net [199.227.173.68]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA285434; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:55:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3A18BCBF.A2C93E3E@gate.net> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:55:12 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sylvestre Meininger CC: "JEShoemaker@aol.com" , ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: External HD for backup References: <20001119185715.7AD3D86C1A@postfix3.free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Apricorn sells a PCMCIA based adapter.. used for cloning drives.. a housing comes with it for adding a 2.5inch HDD as an external.. never used one so i can't say is it has a DOS based driver for it.. Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > Thanks a lot John, > > I just e-mailed DST to know if they sell only the enclosure, so I don't have to buy another HD from them. -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Mon Nov 20 04:58:47 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id EAA27400 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 04:58:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25532; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 04:57:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 04:55:29 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25304; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 04:55:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25145; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 04:51:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (134.100.9.61 -> rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 04:51:37 -0500 Received: from kogs1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (root@kogs1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.12.111]) by rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eAK9pQf10534 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:51:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from kogs45.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (kogs45.informatik.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.12.145]) by kogs1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eAK9pOR23243 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:51:24 +0100 (MET) Received: (from utcke@localhost) by kogs45.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) id eAK9pMf00762 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:51:22 +0100 (MET) From: Sven Utcke Message-Id: <200011200951.eAK9pMf00762@kogs45.informatik.uni-hamburg.de> Subject: Pens and Linux (was: Pen tablet pens) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:51:20 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <200011172235.OAA90167@ritchie.loop.com> from "Paul Khoury" at Nov 17, 2000 02:44:43 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello Paul, > >Well, the Linux-driver for the 360pe is basically a modified wacom > >driver, so I think it is a fair guess that one of their pens might > >work. If you buy it in a shop (rather than on ebay) you could always > >test it first... > > > The 750P or 360PE should also work, AFAIK they are the same deal. > > So they finally have pen support in Linux? Had so for a long time. In fact, the 360pe driver is a patch against the generic wacom driver in XFree 3.3.2, which is rather old itself. So far I haven't managed to compile it against 3.3.6 (or even just 3.3.2), as I'm still looking for a cheap bigger HDD (preferably 2GB) --- however, I've run a precompiled 3.3.2 binary, and this works fine. However, what you can do in Linux with the pen, except for using it as a mouse, is a different question entirely. So far I haven't seen anything usefull. Ideally, I would like to be able to use the tablet as electronic ink and paper, just storing away whatever I scribble. It would be even better if I could run this through an offline handwriting-recognition later on, and also if I could split and restructure my scribbles and file them away annotated. Even better still would be a scheme whereby I can combine handwriting and normal programms, say writing annotations in the margins of an xdvi-preview. However, so far this does not seem to be an option... Sven PS: The 360pe-drivers can be found at: http://home.att.net/~ssolon/tp360pe/index.html http://hwr.nici.kun.nl/pen-computing/bin/ -- _ __ The Cognitive Systems Group | |/ /___ __ _ ___ University of Hamburg | ' ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:21:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07024; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:17:06 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06666; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from conn.mc.mpls.visi.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06644; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from conn.mc.mpls.visi.com (208.42.156.2 -> conn.mc.mpls.visi.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:16:59 -0500 Received: from zippy (170-130.dynamic.visi.com [209.98.170.130]) by conn.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D20E810F; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 06:15:27 -0600 (CST) From: "Chris Schumann" To: , "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: RE: Strange Problem Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 06:17:19 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: I don't have direct experience with your modem issue, Robert, but I can suggest some things to try to get your program on the screen. > I would like to see if the line noise problem has been solved > and my modem > could run at speeds greater than 14,400 baud again. However, > the ThinkPad > Modem program will only come up in minimized mode. I can't > get to the menu > to change the option settings where the connect speed is > selected. Once the program runs, use alt-tab or click on the task bar to give that program the focus. Once that is done, press alt-space to bring up its system menu. You should then be able to move or size the window using arrow keys. Or, if it does appear on the task bar, right-click on an empty space on the task bar and select cascade or tile to re-arrange all open applications. If none of that helps, start HyperTerminal and re-program your modem from there. You'll need the manual, but you should be able to set a default connect rate and store that in its non-volatile memory. Good luck, Chris Schumann From cph Mon Nov 20 13:40:17 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA31943 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:40:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23180; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:26:28 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22232; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:26:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22219; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:26:25 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Received: from cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com (24.1.227.2 -> cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:26:25 -0500 Received: (from rutledge@localhost) by cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id LAA25100 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:26:23 -0700 From: "Shawn T. Rutledge" Resent-Message-Id: <200011201826.LAA25100@cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:25:57 -0700 To: Sven Utcke Subject: Re: Pen tablet pens Message-ID: <20001120112557.U1215@cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com> References: <20001112.131905.-1848783.2.evenmere@juno.com> <200011170858.eAH8wZD28620@kogs45.informatik.uni-hamburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011170858.eAH8wZD28620@kogs45.informatik.uni-hamburg.de>; from utcke@kogs1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 09:58:33AM +0100 Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:26:22 -0700 Resent-To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 09:58:33AM +0100, Sven Utcke wrote: > Well, the Linux-driver for the 360pe is basically a modified wacom > driver, so I think it is a fair guess that one of their pens might > work. If you buy it in a shop (rather than on ebay) you could always > test it first... So is anyone here using Linux on a 730T with pen support? I haven't succeeded yet. -- _______ Shawn T. Rutledge / KB7PWD ecloud@bigfoot.com (_ | |_) http://www.bigfoot.com/~ecloud kb7pwd@kb7pwd.ampr.org __) | | \________________________________________________________________ Free long distance at http://www.bigredwire.com/me/RefTrack?id=USA063420 From cph Mon Nov 20 15:59:37 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA00777 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:59:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15754; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:51:42 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15263; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:51:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from venus.aros.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15246; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:51:39 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from venus.aros.net (207.173.16.42 -> secure.aros.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:51:39 -0500 Received: (from webno@localhost) by venus.aros.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA29741; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:51:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jbrush@www.aros.net) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:51:33 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011202051.NAA29741@venus.aros.net> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: jbrush@www.aros.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 Sender: jbrush@www.aros.net Subject: 760ED display List-Unsubscribe: I recently upgraded the BIOS in my 760ED. Everything went fine, and OS/2 and W98 run the display okay. What is driving me crazy is the screen prior to the OS loading. The display is only about 5" X 5" and the text is so small my old eyes can't always make it out. It is an XGA screen, and its not the end of the world, but the splash screens for the OSes are small and unimpressive. In addition, and I am assuming its the same problem, DOS windows in OS/2 come up small as well. On other laptops, I have not seen this problem. Before I updated the BIOS, it was the original version, this problem did not exist. Is there a way to fix this up, especially the DOS windows if possible? I don't see any reference on any of the driver disks from IBM. I'll be they are there and I have missed them, but I have looked :-) Thanks very much, John From cph Mon Nov 20 16:27:00 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA01243 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:27:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19127; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:16:11 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18743; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:16:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns1.psnet.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18722; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:16:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns1.psnet.net (216.98.165.1 -> psnet.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:16:08 -0500 Received: from adam (216.98.165.89 [216.98.165.89]) by ns1.psnet.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id W38P6NHR; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:15:30 -0600 Reply-To: From: "Robert W. King" To: "ThinkPad List" Subject: RE: Strange Problem Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:15:21 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: Hi Chris, Bill, et al! Well, finally! It turns out that none of you quite had a handle on the how to solve the problem, although your ideas were all very plausible. What finally got me there was to make sure that the ThinkPad Modem applet was running (either minimized or with the miniature window with the simulated modem LEDs appearing) and then use Ctrl-Alt-Del to start the Windows 2000 Task Manager. Those of you with Windows NT experience will recognize this beast. Once in the Task Manager, I selected the Applications tab to see the list of running applications. I highlighted the applet and then right-clicked on it. That produced a menu of Switch To, Bring To Front, Minimize, Maximize, et cetera. I maximized the applet, clicked on the Options menu, selected Settings and then selected the 56000 speed. Then I closed the applet and the Task Manager, and then rebooted the machine (you gotta do that in order to have registry changes activated you know). Voila! I now had a machine that would connect at 24000 baud. Unfortunately, the telephone company (CenturyTel - They just bought out GTE in this area in August.) had NOT fixed the line quality problem. Once connected, I was receiving about an error per second in addition to my email. In fact, Outlook 2000 gave up after six messages and timed out on the session. Either that, or the V.90 protocol of the modem was having trouble. Did I mention that I live in the country about fifteen or more miles from the telephone central office? High speed modem links aren't ever going to happen over that much copper. So I did the next best thing. I went through the same game with the Task Manager to get to the applet again and told it to tell my modem that it was a 33600 v.34 modem. That allowed me to connect at 21600 with only two errors for the entire online session. At any rate, I'm enjoying a more acceptable data rate for the present. Now if I can just figure out how to stop the applet from loading ever time I reboot Windows 2000. I mean, if the registry values have been set (they have been - I've checked), there is no point in re-running the applet all the time. Don't you all enjoy computers? Just think - if I didn't have this problem child to raise, I'd have no excuses and would have to get some productive work accomplished. -- Robert W. King I'm an ingenieur, NOT a bloody locomotive driver! SnailNet: 19023 TV Tower Rd, Winslow, Arkansas 72959 BellNet: 501-634-2086 InterNet: robert@wildweasel.net Web site: http://www.wildweasel.net -----Original Message----- From: Chris Schumann [mailto:cschumann@twp-llc.com] Sent: Monday, 20 November 2000 06:17 To: robert@wildweasel.net; THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Strange Problem I don't have direct experience with your modem issue, Robert, but I can suggest some things to try to get your program on the screen. > I would like to see if the line noise problem has been solved > and my modem > could run at speeds greater than 14,400 baud again. However, > the ThinkPad > Modem program will only come up in minimized mode. I can't > get to the menu > to change the option settings where the connect speed is > selected. Once the program runs, use alt-tab or click on the task bar to give that program the focus. Once that is done, press alt-space to bring up its system menu. You should then be able to move or size the window using arrow keys. Or, if it does appear on the task bar, right-click on an empty space on the task bar and select cascade or tile to re-arrange all open applications. If none of that helps, start HyperTerminal and re-program your modem from there. You'll need the manual, but you should be able to set a default connect rate and store that in its non-volatile memory. Good luck, Chris Schumann From cph Mon Nov 20 17:53:23 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA02124 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:53:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02035; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:51:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:48:37 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01460; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01416; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:48:35 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.51 -> mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:48:35 -0500 Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.135.57]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001120224828.HCQI20084.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 22:48:28 +0000 Received: from [24.190.235.208] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 22:48:26 +0000 To: jbrush@www.aros.net Cc: , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760ED display Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 22:48:26 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 2 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: scosgt@att.net Message-Id: <20001120224828.HCQI20084.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> List-Unsubscribe: It sounds like you may have updates with the wrong bios. There is one for the U3A, SVGA screen, and another for the U9A, XGA screen > I recently upgraded the BIOS in my 760ED. Everything > went fine, and OS/2 and W98 run the display okay. > > What is driving me crazy is the screen prior to the OS > loading. The display is only about 5" X 5" and the text > is so small my old eyes can't always make it out. It is > an XGA screen, and its not the end of the world, but the > splash screens for the OSes are small and unimpressive. > > In addition, and I am assuming its the same problem, DOS > windows in OS/2 come up small as well. On other laptops, > I have not seen this problem. > > Before I updated the BIOS, it was the original version, > this problem did not exist. > > Is there a way to fix this up, especially the DOS > windows if possible? I don't see any reference on any of > the driver disks from IBM. I'll be they are there and I > have missed them, but I have looked :-) > > Thanks very much, > > John From cph Mon Nov 20 23:08:20 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA04569 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:08:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06106; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:07:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:05:25 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05747; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05732; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:05:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (205.216.137.2 -> pantano.theriver.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:05:22 -0500 Received: from theriver.com (206-97-58-248.ip.theriver.com [206.97.58.248]) by pantano.theriver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA3128C8B; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:14:17 -0700 (MST) Sender: root@theriver.com Message-ID: <3A19E9C6.2F248C35@theriver.com> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:19:34 -0700 From: James Mckenzie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75C-CCK-MCD Caldera Systems OpenLinux [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jbrush@www.aros.net Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760ED display References: <200011202051.NAA29741@venus.aros.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: jbrush@www.aros.net wrote: > > I recently upgraded the BIOS in my 760ED. Everything > went fine, and OS/2 and W98 run the display okay. > > What is driving me crazy is the screen prior to the OS > loading. The display is only about 5" X 5" and the text > is so small my old eyes can't always make it out. It is > an XGA screen, and its not the end of the world, but the > splash screens for the OSes are small and unimpressive. > > In addition, and I am assuming its the same problem, DOS > windows in OS/2 come up small as well. On other laptops, > I have not seen this problem. > > Before I updated the BIOS, it was the original version, > this problem did not exist. > > Is there a way to fix this up, especially the DOS > windows if possible? I don't see any reference on any of > the driver disks from IBM. I'll be they are there and I > have missed them, but I have looked :-) It looks like you cleared the 'full screen' setting. This is when the system sutomatically expands the screen from 640x480 to the full 1024x768 screen. I did this and it looks 'ugly' but I grew tired of the partally distorted screen splash. The solution is to boot up Windows95/98 or OS/2 and set the screen expansion to 'ON'. James Mckenzie From cph Tue Nov 21 00:02:10 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA05099 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:02:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11280; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:01:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:00:06 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11039; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:00:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:00:06 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id AAA26201 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:00:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08211; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (199.45.39.156 -> smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:26:13 -0500 Received: from p3-1ghz (client-151-204-210-32.delval.dialup.bellatlantic.net [151.204.210.32]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA23987 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:26:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001120232346.02cb74b0@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: bytehead@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:27:16 -0500 To: "thinkpad" From: Mark Bell Subject: Plethora of official IBM 3-prong power cords In-Reply-To: <200011191754.MAA31670@smtp6.mindspring.com> References: <200011191452.OAA19401@scooby.lineone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I needed 15 of 'em and got 50. Deployed the 15 and have 35 left over. I am selling them individually for $6/ea shipped anywhere in the US if anyone wants one. Qty x 6 = amount owed. These are official IBM replacement/sale parts and brand new. Email if interested. These fit the 56w 600/770 series adapters and may fit other models too. Mark From cph Tue Nov 21 03:25:39 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id DAA06109 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:25:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24279; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:24:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:22:40 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24052; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:22:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA24037; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (194.29.192.20 -> netsonic.fi) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:22:37 -0500 Received: from TP560X (letku107.adsl.netsonic.fi [194.29.195.107]) by nalle.netsonic.fi (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id eAL8MK720042 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:22:21 +0200 Message-Id: <200011210822.eAL8MK720042@nalle.netsonic.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:22:16 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: questions about 20GB drives (Hitachi vs. Toshiba) X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.2 List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I'm in the market for a couple of 20 GB drives. I'm considering the Hitachi (DK23BA-20, http://www.hitachi-eu-bsd.com/html/_______dk23ba_-_20.html) and the Toshiba (MK-2016GAP, http://www.toshiba.com/taecdpd/products/features/MK2016-Over.shtml). Which of these two would be the quietest? Are the new TravelStars as noisy as the older ones? Btw, have all the laptop drive manufacturers switched to the 2.5"/9.5mm (or smaller) form factor? Or is it still possible to find 12.5" drives (in sizes of about 20 GB)? The drives are intended for use with a TP570 and a TP600, so 12.5" would be OK. What is needed to use a bare 9.5" drive with a TP570/TP600 (either as primary drive or in the UltraSlimBay 2nd HDD adapter)? Thanks, Dominique From cph Tue Nov 21 03:51:35 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id DAA06209 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:51:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27196; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:49:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:48:26 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26920; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:48:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix3.free.fr (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26903; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:48:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix3.free.fr (212.27.32.22 -> postfix3.free.fr) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:48:23 -0500 Received: from tp-560 (paris11-nas5-48-61.dial.proxad.net [212.27.48.61]) by postfix3.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C54286C51 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:48:21 +0100 (CET) From: "Sylvestre Meininger" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:48:37 +0100 Reply-To: "Sylvestre Meininger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: External HD for Backup Message-Id: <20001121084821.4C54286C51@postfix3.free.fr> List-Unsubscribe: Thanks to all who responded ! I checked the vendors John mentionned (thanks for such precise info) and I think I found what I'm looking for. More on this when I actually try the product. David, I get your point. Although I wouldn't know where to find refurbished HDs. But buying a "refurb" hard disk ?... Isn't that just a tad bit not so carefull ? I mean, the point is not whether it's still under warranty or not but that I find it hard to trust anything refurbished when it comes to backup. (or hard drive actually, whether for backup or normal use) Plus, brand new drives of sufficient capacity (10-18Gb) are selling for rather low prices nowadays Or am I missing something ? Best regards, sylvestre From cph Tue Nov 21 04:14:25 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id EAA06610 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 04:14:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01122; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 04:12:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 04:11:06 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00598; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 04:11:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00584; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 04:11:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 04:11:03 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA10897; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:10:45 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000f01c0539a$f2211fe0$1662183f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Sylvestre Meininger" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" References: <20001121084821.4C54286C51@postfix3.free.fr> Subject: Re: External HD for Backup Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:10:49 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > David, I get your point. Although I wouldn't know where to find refurbished HDs. > > But buying a "refurb" hard disk ?... Isn't that just a tad bit not so carefull ? Depends on what part they replaced. In any event, the external travelstars at compgeeks are actually new, not refurbed. - David From cph Tue Nov 21 05:05:51 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id FAA06787 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:05:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05258; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:04:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:00:56 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA04809; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix1.free.fr (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA04795; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:00:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix1.free.fr (212.27.32.21 -> postfix1.free.fr) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:00:54 -0500 Received: from tp-560 (paris11-nas7-52-177.dial.proxad.net [212.27.52.177]) by postfix1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 108772817F for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:00:52 +0100 (MET) From: "Sylvestre Meininger" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:01:57 +0100 Reply-To: "Sylvestre Meininger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: External HD for Backup (slightly OT) Message-Id: <20001121100052.108772817F@postfix1.free.fr> List-Unsubscribe: I just thought of something, I already have an Adaptec Scsi PC Card (APA 1480). Now, I still havent' found an external HD enclosure that I could use with this rather fast interface. Are all "external HD enclosures" interfaces proprietary ? Thanks again From cph Tue Nov 21 05:55:48 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id FAA06918 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:55:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA12597; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:51:46 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11651; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:51:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from vasquez.zip.com.au (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11637; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from vasquez.zip.com.au (203.12.97.41 -> vasquez.zip.com.au) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:51:31 -0500 Received: from CNSCOTT.zip.com.au (stan11.zip.com.au [61.8.17.11]) by vasquez.zip.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA10855 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 21:51:18 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001121214818.00a7d478@pop.zip.com.au> X-Sender: cnscott@pop.zip.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 21:51:16 +1100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Chris Scott Subject: A20m DVD Region website In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Whoa! I have been swamped with requests for information on removing the region code for the a20m!! Im sorry I have taken so long to get back to you all but I have set up a site with complete instructions: http://www.geocities.com/cnscott/dvdregion.html I do not provide support for this but plmk if you see any obvious errors in the site and I will do my best to resolve them.. have fun c. From cph Tue Nov 21 06:08:55 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id GAA06985 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 06:08:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14256; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 06:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 06:05:52 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14105; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 06:05:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns.fedingas.lt (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14091; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 06:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns.fedingas.lt (213.226.133.2 -> fedingas.lt) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 06:05:43 -0500 Received: from fedingas.lt (parkas.fedingas.lt [213.226.133.10]) by ns.fedingas.lt (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eALB5PL17451 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:05:31 +0200 Message-ID: <3A1A56F2.1788C797@fedingas.lt> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:05:22 +0200 From: Kestas Reply-To: kestas@fedingas.lt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 755ce battery info Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hi, Does anybody knows more info about 755ce battery pinouts When I connect other type of battery to TP it works fine but did not detect battery when I want upgrade system.Some days ago I got TP from EBAY but without battery Thanks, Kestutis Ziaunys From cph Tue Nov 21 09:10:29 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id JAA08531 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:10:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26329; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:07:42 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26041; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from wwcst088.netaddress.usa.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26026; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from wwcst088.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.88 -> wwcst088.netaddress.usa.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:07:41 -0500 Received: (qmail 29842 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Nov 2000 14:07:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20001121140739.29841.qmail@wwcst088.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.88 by wwcst088 for [156.99.90.178] via web-mailer(34WB1.4.03) on Tue Nov 21 14:07:39 GMT 2000 Date: 21 Nov 00 08:07:39 CST From: Rob Bell To: Dominique Pivard , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: questions about 20GB drives (Hitachi vs. Toshiba) X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (34WB1.4.03) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id JAA08532 Dominique Pivard wrote: [snip] > What is needed to use a bare 9.5" drive with a TP570/TP600 (either as > primary drive or in the UltraSlimBay 2nd HDD adapter)? Speaking for TP600's: To use as the primary drive, you'll need the 'drive tray' thing. It is the part that covers the exposed electronics side of the bare drive and has the little pull-tab on it. Don't stick a bare drive in the main drive bay on a 600 without the tray, or you will have a real blast trying to get it back out! (been there, done that) I think trays are about $15. To use in the UltraSlimBay, you can put the bare drive in the 2nd HDD adapter directly. Probably better to have a tray on it, but not necessary. The 2nd HDD adapter is about $35. Good luck! Rob ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail From cph Tue Nov 21 10:08:12 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA08949 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:08:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02291; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:07:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:05:25 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02033; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02020; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:05:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (208.147.154.56 -> fly.HiWAAY.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:05:22 -0500 Received: from dwreid (tnt10-216-180-66-122.dialup.hiwaay.net [216.180.66.122]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id eALF5K730630 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:05:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001301c053cc$77896260$7a42b4d8@dwreid> From: "David Reid" To: "ThinkPad-L" Subject: TP Megahertz card modem won't stay put Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:04:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 List-Unsubscribe: Greetings List, Well, I managed to install an upgrade to my Thinkpad internal modem on my 770z, and it has made a difference. Before, every attempt to dial out, the modem speaker output would be mute on the first try, now it screeches every time. One prob I have developed thou, my old megahertz 33.6 card modem which I use for fax and a couple other incidental uses, now, will not stay on COM3 where it is supposed to be. First, it kept swapping to COM5. If I inserted it after boot up, it would take on COM3 properly, but once rebooted it would revert. With the Megahertz inserted, I removed it via Device manager, rebooted all went well, it has gone for 2 days on COM3, BUTT... this morning, it decides it wants COM4!!!!!! What could be causing this behavior? By the way, I the Megahertz card modem must use COM3 as I must have COM1 for hooking up to certain preiphs. (ie digitizer, cellphone, or GPS, which all this setup was working before I updated my internal TP modem). Thanks for any help, Happy Thanksgiving All Dave From cph Tue Nov 21 11:14:35 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA09571 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:14:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09133; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:09:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:07:24 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08841; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:07:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailout3-0.nyroc.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08828; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:07:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailout3-0.nyroc.rr.com (24.92.226.168 -> mailout3-1.nyroc.rr.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:07:21 -0500 Received: from mail3.stny.rr.com (mail3-0 [24.92.226.69]) by mailout3-0.nyroc.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17783 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:55:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from jeff-s-thinkpad.potsdam.edu ([24.169.75.195]) by mail3.stny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-53939U80000L80000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:51:08 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20001121105251.00a95a00@mail.potsdam.edu> X-Sender: hatton64@mail.potsdam.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:55:12 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jeff Hatton Subject: Mini PCI Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I recently had to take appart my Thinkpad 570 and in the process noticed that the modem seems to be a mini pci card. (the sticker on the modem says mini-pci) and am wondering if it is possible to put a Ethernet Card in the slot even thoe it is not a listed option for the 560 series. Does anyone have any details on the modem slot in this machine or know if this will work. I don't want to go out and spend the money on the ethernet card only to find that it dosen't work. Jeff Hatton Hatton64@potsdam.edu From cph Tue Nov 21 11:58:27 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA09965 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:58:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15002; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:56:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:55:07 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14634; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:55:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14621; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:55:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:55:04 -0500 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15462; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:54:56 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-ID: <3A1AA8E0.3343847C@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:54:56 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18-pre20.1.smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Hatton CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mini PCI References: <5.0.2.1.0.20001121105251.00a95a00@mail.potsdam.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: The mini-PCI modem/ethernet on the A20/T20/X20 has an ethernet jack on the back of the machine that is wired to the card. Do you have the jack? --Lee Hetherington From cph Tue Nov 21 23:28:41 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA16384 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:28:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18348; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:27:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:24:44 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17827; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:24:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from paranoid.gws.org (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17785; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:24:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from paranoid.gws.org (216.101.234.121 -> adsl-216-101-234-121.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:24:26 -0500 Received: (qmail 7797 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Nov 2000 04:26:54 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 20:26:54 -0800 From: Noah Downs To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Broken key on a 600e. Message-ID: <20001121202654.E7699@indymedia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I own a Thinkpad 600e and I've managed to brake the "Enter" key. IBM wants to replace the whole keyboard, and I was wondering if anyone had a scrap 600 or 600e laying around that they'd be willing to sell me a key from. Any insight into my problem would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- noah. From cph Wed Nov 22 00:09:30 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA16900 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:09:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22605; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:09:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:07:38 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22299; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:07:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22286; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:07:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:07:36 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-69.gate.net [207.36.212.69]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA66198; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:07:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3A1B5495.60733023@gate.net> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:07:33 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Hatton CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mini PCI References: <5.0.2.1.0.20001121105251.00a95a00@mail.potsdam.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: how will you connect an RJ45 socket to the mini-pci combo card.. ? Jeff Hatton wrote: > I recently had to take appart my Thinkpad 570 and in the process noticed > that the modem seems to be a mini pci card. (the sticker on the modem says > mini-pci) and am wondering if it is possible to put a Ethernet Card in the > slot even thoe it is not a listed option for the 560 series. Does anyone > have any details on the modem slot in this machine or know if this will > work. I don't want to go out and spend the money on the ethernet card only > to find that it dosen't work. > > Jeff Hatton > Hatton64@potsdam.edu -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Wed Nov 22 00:20:53 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA16952 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:20:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24176; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:19:07 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23885; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:19:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23857; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:19:05 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-69.gate.net [207.36.212.69]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA38662; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:19:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3A1B5746.A73CCDE5@gate.net> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:19:02 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jbrush@www.aros.net CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760ED display References: <200011202051.NAA29741@venus.aros.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: implement screen expansion.. reboot.. :-) jbrush@www.aros.net wrote: > I recently upgraded the BIOS in my 760ED. Everything > went fine, and OS/2 and W98 run the display okay. > > What is driving me crazy is the screen prior to the OS > loading. The display is only about 5" X 5" and the text > is so small my old eyes can't always make it out. It is > an XGA screen, and its not the end of the world, but the > splash screens for the OSes are small and unimpressive. > > In addition, and I am assuming its the same problem, DOS > windows in OS/2 come up small as well. On other laptops, > I have not seen this problem. > > Before I updated the BIOS, it was the original version, > this problem did not exist. > > Is there a way to fix this up, especially the DOS > windows if possible? I don't see any reference on any of > the driver disks from IBM. I'll be they are there and I > have missed them, but I have looked :-) > > Thanks very much, > > John -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Wed Nov 22 00:24:01 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA16979 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:24:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24809; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:22:18 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24483; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24470; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:22:17 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl1-69.gate.net [207.36.212.69]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA203292; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:21:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3A1B57F0.32701FF8@gate.net> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:21:52 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Noah Downs CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Broken key on a 600e. References: <20001121202654.E7699@indymedia.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: no spare 600 keyboards, BUT, new keyboards are not very costly and not difficult to replace.. Noah Downs wrote: > Hi, I own a Thinkpad 600e and I've managed to brake the "Enter" key. IBM wants to replace the whole keyboard, and I was wondering if anyone had a scrap 600 or 600e laying around that they'd be willing to sell me a key from. > > Any insight into my problem would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks. > -- > noah. -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Wed Nov 22 01:02:09 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA17212 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 01:02:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27785; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 01:00:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:58:13 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27427; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27414; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:58:11 -0500 Received: from dts-jl ([12.77.31.203]) by mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001122055809.OKXQ1677.mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net@dts-jl> for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 05:58:09 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20001122010038.01d99510@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 01:00:38 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Broken key on a 600e. In-Reply-To: <20001121202654.E7699@indymedia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 08:26 PM 11/21/2000 -0800, Noah Downs wrote: >Hi, I own a Thinkpad 600e and I've managed to brake the "Enter" key. IBM wants to replace the whole keyboard, and I was wondering if anyone had a scrap 600 or 600e laying around that they'd be willing to sell me a key from. > >Any insight into my problem would be greatly appreciated. > 600s had a 3-year warranty, and none of them are old enough for the warranty to have expired. Unless there's something I'm missing, let IBM replace the keyboard. From cph Wed Nov 22 22:10:09 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA26459 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:10:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22655; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:09:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:06:49 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22319; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:06:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22298; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:06:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (216.59.47.71 -> d83b2f47.dsl.flashcom.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:06:47 -0500 Received: from sashka (sashka [192.168.0.1]) by ya.dhs.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eAN36h100224 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:06:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:06:38 -0500 From: Sashka X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Reply-To: Sashka X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1466629202.20001122220638@tryam.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [600] cpu upgrade Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I'm new user of used 600e (2645 4AU). It is 366Mhz. I want to upgrade CPU to Pentium III. I have p3 500 mhz, mmc 2 cpu module. I installed it in notebook. It even boot up. The only problem I have - i'm getting error 127 while notebook boots. CPU is not recognized as Pentium III. In windows 2000 Pro, I got that it is Celeron 500Mhz. I think, if I will able to flash in this notebook bios from 600x - everything will work nice.. The only problem - I have no idea how to flash 600x in 600e... Any ideas? -- Sashka "They have computers, and they may have other weapons of mass destruction." - Janet Reno, US Attorney General, 2/27/98 From cph Thu Nov 23 02:10:49 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA27746 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:10:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01933; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:10:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:05:41 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01543; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:05:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA01530; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:05:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.48 -> mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:05:34 -0500 Received: from host ([12.78.242.227]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with ESMTP id <20001123070532.VPFB2287.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@host> for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 07:05:32 +0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20001123020221.02d9f100@free-music.com> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Ken's Useful eMail Suite v5.1 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:05:26 -0500 To: Thinkpad list From: Ken Subject: [TP770ED] Keyboard has a malfunctioning key Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: Hi - All of a sudden, the "f" key on my Thinkpad 770ED is malfunctioning. It feels different from the rest of the keys - like it's not going down quite all the low, or the "click" feels a little weak. Now, if I don't press the "f" really firmly, straight on, it doesn't respond. This is really unacceptable, and I don't know why it just started. Does anyone know if IBM will fix this for free? The machine is still under the 3-year warranty. How should I approach them about it? Thanks! - Ken kenzo@free-music.com From cph Thu Nov 23 03:03:36 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id DAA27873 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 03:03:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03819; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 03:02:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:59:52 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03546; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:59:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03532; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:59:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:59:49 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA26104; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 21:59:29 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000701c05523$52b6c560$548d273f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Thinkpad list" , "Ken" References: <4.2.0.58.20001123020221.02d9f100@free-music.com> Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Keyboard has a malfunctioning key Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 21:59:30 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > All of a sudden, the "f" key on my Thinkpad 770ED is malfunctioning. It feels different from the rest of the keys - like it's not going down quite all the low, or the "click" feels a little weak. Now, if I don't press the "f" really firmly, straight on, it doesn't respond. Have you been eating near the laptop? Sometimes a stray crumb will do this (ask me how I know:-) A blast of compressed air (with laptop off) will often fix this. If the problem is more serious, then yes, IBM should fix this under your warrantee. They might scare you first with a call (once they get your machine) informing you that you will have to pay their repair estimate of a gazillion dollars, but if you tell them you don't have a gazillion dollars and use the codeword "escalate" then you should be OK. - David From cph Thu Nov 23 08:42:29 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id IAA29870 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 08:42:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20321; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 08:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 23 Nov 2000 08:38:13 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19923; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 08:38:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19910; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 08:38:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (205.216.137.2 -> pantano.theriver.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 23 Nov 2000 08:38:11 -0500 Received: from theriver.com (a45.pm3-15.theriver.com [208.164.96.109]) by pantano.theriver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1900B2601D; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 06:37:42 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A1D1E45.20742F41@theriver.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 06:40:21 -0700 From: Ray Bay Organization: Canyonlands Publishing Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-NSCPCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken Cc: Thinkpad list Subject: Re: [TP770ED] Keyboard has a malfunctioning key References: <4.2.0.58.20001123020221.02d9f100@free-music.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: They should take care of it... they did mine... But be sure it isn't just a gummed up key from coffee, soda, food, or dirt. If they find it isn't really defective, but dirty, you get hit for about $80 including shipping. If they find it is a defective key, they replace the entire keyboard. The problem you describe is a common one with various Thinkpad keyboards... one of the most flimsy components... luckily they are easy and relatively inexpensive to repair. From cph Thu Nov 23 10:29:36 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA30384 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:29:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27724; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:29:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:26:15 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27416; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:26:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:26:11 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id KAA01177 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:26:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22145; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 09:10:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (206.141.239.142 -> mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 23 Nov 2000 09:10:10 -0500 Received: from Techshop ([64.108.210.19]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20001123141003.LIZ1491.mailhost.chi.ameritech.net@Techshop>; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 08:10:03 -0600 Message-ID: <002701c05555$8f6de920$0201a8c0@ameritech.net> From: "Matt Winston" To: "Monica Meyer" , Subject: Holiday Offering Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 07:59:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Happy Thanksgiving To All. Now put your Thinkpad away and enjoy the day. Follow the recommendations from our test lab.......... I mean kitchen rule #1- Warp 4 ovens will cook your bird perfectly, but no one will believe you. rule #2- M$ ovens will require you to remove the turkey from the oven when about halfway done, de-stuff, re-stuff and resume roasting. rule #3- Do not enable APM, or you may eat on Friday. rule #4- An Ultrabay is not a food storage device. rule #5- Keyboards do not like gravy. rule #6- Java will do almost anything except baste. rule #7- Napster does not allow swapping recipes. Best Wishes. Matt From cph Fri Nov 24 09:00:20 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id JAA05422 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:00:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24787; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:59:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:54:20 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24146; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:54:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from corb.mc.mpls.visi.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24133; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from corb.mc.mpls.visi.com (208.42.156.1 -> corb.mc.mpls.visi.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:54:18 -0500 Received: from zippy (170-88.dynamic.visi.com [209.98.170.88]) by corb.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 68F74811E; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 07:53:49 -0600 (CST) From: "Chris Schumann" To: "Sashka" , Subject: RE: [600] cpu upgrade Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 07:54:42 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1466629202.20001122220638@tryam.com> List-Unsubscribe: You are treading on thin ice, Sashka. Using a BIOS from another machine is very risky. It may not work at all, even to the point of not allowing you to get your machine working again without a trip to service. Also, IBM service might not even work on the machine if it has been modified. The issue is that the 600e and 600x have different chips for most of the internal functions. The controllers for memory and all I/O devices might all be different. You are the expert at this point. I cannot recall anyone who has done this successfully reporting to this list. Best of luck to you and let us all know how it turns out. Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Sashka [mailto:list@tryam.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 9:07 PM > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: [600] cpu upgrade > > > Hello, > > I'm new user of used 600e (2645 4AU). It is 366Mhz. > > I want to upgrade CPU to Pentium III. I have p3 500 mhz, mmc 2 cpu > module. I installed it in notebook. It even boot up. The only problem > I have - i'm getting error 127 while notebook boots. CPU is not > recognized as Pentium III. In windows 2000 Pro, I got that it is > Celeron 500Mhz. > I think, if I will able to flash in this notebook bios from 600x - > everything will work nice.. The only problem - I have no idea how to > flash 600x in 600e... > > Any ideas? > > > -- > Sashka > "They have computers, and they may have other weapons of mass > destruction." - Janet Reno, US Attorney General, 2/27/98 > > > From cph Fri Nov 24 12:34:58 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA06862 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:34:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12480; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:34:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:32:42 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12029; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:32:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12016; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:32:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (207.172.4.61 -> smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:32:41 -0500 Received: from r82aap002986.nyr.cable.rcn.com ([209.122.72.23] helo=richard) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 13zMiF-00047P-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:32:39 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20001124123118.0139aa88@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: rpritz@pop.rcn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:32:31 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: richard Subject: gps Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Can someone recommend a good (but not too expensive) GPS device and software to use with my Thinkpad? From cph Fri Nov 24 12:44:40 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA06912 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:44:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14247; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:44:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:42:44 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13977; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13964; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:42:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (207.46.181.60) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:42:42 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer - 63.48.10.91 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:42:49 -0800 Message-ID: <000901c0563e$1c67ce20$5b0a303f@oemcomputer> From: "Brad Burean" To: "Thinkpad Users" Subject: 560 dual scan Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:43:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Anyone have just the plastics, front and back for a dual scan display? In good condition? Thanks From cph Fri Nov 24 13:59:57 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA07352 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:59:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20880; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:59:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:57:54 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20587; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:57:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20574; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:57:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (208.147.154.56 -> fly.HiWAAY.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:57:52 -0500 Received: from dwreid (tnt10-216-180-66-63.dialup.hiwaay.net [216.180.66.63]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id eAOIvn702774 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:57:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000f01c05648$70d33da0$3f42b4d8@dwreid> From: "David Reid" To: References: <4.2.2.20001124123118.0139aa88@pop.rcn.com> Subject: Re: gps Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:57:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 List-Unsubscribe: Richard, I personally use the Garmin 12CX extensivly for my GIS work and for personal travel on occasion. The 12cx is not the cheapest though and by far not the most expensive. I didn't want or need one of the 300.00 plus units with built in maps as my primary use would be with my TP and I have my own maps. As a Forest Ranger and 911 Mapper, I chose the 12cx as it has the highest route point and waypoint capacity (something like 1000 waypoints and 2000 trackpoints give or take). The 12cx is modest priced, I payed 239.00 for mine at www.tvnav.com . I will ad that Garmin has some units under 200.00 that offer very good service. An now that Big Brother has removed SA from the orbiting system, a 150 dollar GPS will do you as good as a 400 dollar one. Only till you get into the 3000.00 Trimble range will get get any more precise for a hand held. As far as software goes, my personal choice outside of my more expensive GIS software, is Delorme Street Atlas. I didn't have much luck with Map-n-go, Street Atlas works for me better, no matter if I have my GPS hooked up or not. And by the way, Street Atlas can give you voice driving instructions when you use your GPS and although that may sound "gadgety" it really came in handy for us on vacation this past summer. Delorme has an inexpensive GPS that they sell alone, or with their other products like Eartha or MapNGo but I wouldn't recommend it, I've heard some pretty bad stories on them. hope this helps. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard" To: Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 11:32 AM Subject: gps > Can someone recommend a good (but not too expensive) GPS device and > software to use with my Thinkpad? > > From cph Fri Nov 24 15:02:19 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA07763 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:02:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26821; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:00:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:58:51 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26481; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:58:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from lima.epix.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26468; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:58:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from lima.epix.net (199.224.64.56 -> lima.epix.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:58:49 -0500 Received: from mohotta (itha-125ppp71.epix.net [199.224.125.71]) by lima.epix.net (8.10.1/8.10.1/2000080901/PL) with SMTP id eAOJwl526771 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:58:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011241958.eAOJwl526771@lima.epix.net> From: "Julian Thomas" Reply-to: "Julian Thomas" Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:58:27 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20001124123118.0139aa88@pop.rcn.com> Subject: Re: gps X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.21/21 List-Unsubscribe: In <4.2.2.20001124123118.0139aa88@pop.rcn.com>, on 11/24/00 at 12:32 PM, richard typed: >Can someone recommend a good (but not too expensive) GPS device and >software to use with my Thinkpad? Anything that will work with OS2???? -- Julian Thomas: jt@epix.net http://home.epix.net/~jt In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc http://www.possi.org -- -- Death to all fanatics! From cph Fri Nov 24 16:54:48 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA08650 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:54:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06461; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:51:35 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06180; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from zeus.tassie.net.au (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06166; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from zeus.tassie.net.au (203.57.213.21 -> zeus.tassie.net.au) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:51:28 -0500 Received: from dialin7.ltn.tassie.net.au (dialin7.ltn.tassie.net.au [203.57.210.199]) by zeus.tassie.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA28071 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 08:51:21 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200011242151.IAA28071@zeus.tassie.net.au> From: "Alex Bell" To: "Thinkpad Mailing List" Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:46:34 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Alex Bell" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Two Beeps at Startup List-Unsubscribe: I have been struggling for a year on two continents with three distributions to get Linux to work with my ThinkPad 385XD and an external monitor. Nothing I have tried works, and the latest rendition evokes two beeps from the computer when Linux is booted. I have no idea what bios the ThinkPad uses. Can anyone please tell me what the two beeps means, or where to find out? From cph Fri Nov 24 18:41:30 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA09168 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:41:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15010; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:38:56 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14595; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14569; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (216.59.47.71 -> d83b2f47.dsl.flashcom.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:38:54 -0500 Received: from sashka (sashka [192.168.0.1]) by ya.dhs.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eAONcsG00176 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:38:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:38:48 -0500 From: Sashka X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Reply-To: Sashka X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1541492265.20001124183848@tryam.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [600] cpu upgrade In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, As far as I can remember, 600e and 600x are almost same. the only difference I found is BIOS and 600e has 32mb onboard and 600x has 64. I'm sure, that if I will find way to flash 600x bios in to 600e I will get it work. Anyway, this notebook I brought only for testing this thing. It works now, but I have to press few buttons to boot in Windows. And computer works at 100mhz bus. So far, I can see few problems: on board memory might not work on 100mhz bus. But mine, looks like working. And one more thing. Does anyone know what means error 127 after memory test? Where can I find list of this error messages? Or should I call IBM support to find out that? Thanks! CS> You are treading on thin ice, Sashka. CS> Using a BIOS from another machine is very risky. It may not CS> work at all, even to the point of not allowing you to get your CS> machine working again without a trip to service. Also, IBM service CS> might not even work on the machine if it has been modified. CS> The issue is that the 600e and 600x have different chips for most CS> of the internal functions. The controllers for memory and all I/O CS> devices might all be different. CS> You are the expert at this point. I cannot recall anyone who has CS> done this successfully reporting to this list. CS> Best of luck to you and let us all know how it turns out. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sashka [mailto:list@tryam.com] >> I'm new user of used 600e (2645 4AU). It is 366Mhz. >> >> I want to upgrade CPU to Pentium III. I have p3 500 mhz, mmc 2 cpu >> module. I installed it in notebook. It even boot up. The only problem >> I have - i'm getting error 127 while notebook boots. CPU is not >> recognized as Pentium III. In windows 2000 Pro, I got that it is >> Celeron 500Mhz. >> I think, if I will able to flash in this notebook bios from 600x - >> everything will work nice.. The only problem - I have no idea how to >> flash 600x in 600e... >> >> Any ideas? -- Sashka e-mail : list@tryam.com From cph Fri Nov 24 18:42:21 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA09178 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:42:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15277; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:41:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:40:04 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14766; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:40:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14752; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (216.59.47.71 -> d83b2f47.dsl.flashcom.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:40:02 -0500 Received: from sashka (sashka [192.168.0.1]) by ya.dhs.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eAONe2G00180 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:40:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:39:56 -0500 From: Sashka X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Reply-To: Sashka X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1921560143.20001124183956@tryam.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: gps In-reply-To: <4.2.2.20001124123118.0139aa88@pop.rcn.com> References: <4.2.2.20001124123118.0139aa88@pop.rcn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, What is GPS? Friday, November 24, 2000, 12:32:31 PM, you wrote: r> Can someone recommend a good (but not too expensive) GPS device and r> software to use with my Thinkpad? -- Sashka e-mail : list@tryam.com "Linux is only free if your time has no value" - Founder of Mozilla.org Jamie Zawinski From cph Fri Nov 24 19:04:36 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA09289 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:04:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17289; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:02:14 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17081; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from sierratel.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17068; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:02:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from sierratel.com (209.155.26.9 -> sierratel.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:02:12 -0500 Received: from smiths [209.155.28.101] by sierratel.com (SMTPD32-6.05) id A17A1AF20030; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:02:02 -0800 Message-ID: <001101c05672$ed812c20$4d75fea9@smiths> From: "C. Deforrest Smith" To: Subject: Testing powersupply? [560e] Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:01:48 -0800 Organization: a no-no domain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: I've got a 560e that I've been using pretty heavily for 2 years. It's performed admirably, running Windows 2000 since the RC2 betas. I -was- tremendously pleased & really impressed with the durability, etc. Except now it seems that it's all gone downhill. First, after not using the laptop for about 2 months (the longest break it's had), the powersupply seems very flaky. Most of the time, it doesn't appear to be charging the battery. Removing the battery & attempting to run on straight AC power results in, you guessed it, nothing.... So it'd seem the PS is dead, right? Except for about a week in there it was actually working, but the power/charge LED on the machine doesn't seem to correspond with what's going on. Windows will say the battery's charging, but the led will still be blinking orange... Also, when power is applied & removed, there's no more 'beep-boop' from the PC's speaker...kind of strange, but I could deal with that if it'd actually charge. Well, now it's all packed it in, the battery's discharged, and the AC's no help. Unfortunately, the closest Thinkpad 560/600 that I have available for testing is 500mi. away..so that's out. Now that you've got some background, the big question: Does the powersupply put out juice 100% of the time...can I pop a voltmeter on the connector & get an accurate idea of what's going on, or will the PS not output unless there's a load? Assuming my PS is trash..is there a low-buck replacement out there? Spending $100 on a laptop barely worth $500 seems silly... Second question, which really doesn't matter if the thing wont turn on... The external floppy seems to be acting up...After a day of heavy use, it just stops working...putting it away & trying again the next morning results in success...for a while, then it acts as if the drive isn't there...though the motor runs when it's accessed. Again...I can't tell if this is the drive's problem, or *shudder* the system board. Anyone have any experience with using USB floppies on these babies? Between these 2 problems, it'd seem to be the end of the road for my well-worn 233mhz laptop, but I really like the size & feel of the thing. Now, if I could find a machine with similar dimensions & a built-in floppy, I'd be all over it.... Of course, I'd still probably try to fix the 560... Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -Chris From cph Fri Nov 24 19:13:05 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA09333 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:13:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18266; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:12:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:10:49 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18055; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:10:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18038; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:10:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:10:43 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA02217; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:10:18 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <001d01c05674$1c537340$7d62183f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "C. Deforrest Smith" , References: <001101c05672$ed812c20$4d75fea9@smiths> Subject: Re: Testing powersupply? [560e] Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:10:23 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > Now that you've got some background, the big question: Does the powersupply > put out juice 100% of the time...can I pop a voltmeter on the connector & get > an accurate idea of what's going on, or will the PS not output unless there's a load? You can test it with a VM. Odds are it is your DC-DC card, not the power supply, which has failed. This is an all-too-common failure mode in the 560. > The external floppy seems to be acting up...After a day of heavy use, it just stops > working...putting it away & trying again the next morning results in success...for > a while, then it acts as if the drive isn't there...though the motor runs when it's accessed. > Again...I can't tell if this is the drive's problem, or *shudder* the system board. > Anyone have any experience with using USB floppies on these babies? Floppy failure is also common - misalignment seems to be the problem. (You could try just cleaning the drive head with a kit from your local computer store.) - David R. From cph Fri Nov 24 19:34:59 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA09451 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:34:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19842; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:34:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:32:42 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19648; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:32:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19634; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (207.115.63.103 -> pimout4-ext.prodigy.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:32:40 -0500 Received: from CHUCK (adsl-63-198-207-24.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.198.207.24]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eAP0WcK208946 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:32:39 -0500 From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: thinkPad Mailing List Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:32:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re External HD backup/EZ Gig for sale Reply-to: chuck@ccncn.org Message-ID: <3A1E981A.22411.A9CFC@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) List-Unsubscribe: On 20 Nov 2000, at 0:55, Bill Morrow wrote: > Apricorn sells a PCMCIA based adapter.. > used for cloning drives.. > a housing comes with it for adding a 2.5inch HDD as an external.. I have an Apricorn EZ-Gig PCMCIA adapter; you supply the hard drive. I have never been able to make this work under Win98SE, but it worked fine under Win95. First $20 can have it as is. (I have no idea about Linux or OS/2) Chuck Blaisdell From cph Fri Nov 24 19:58:04 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA09596 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:58:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21507; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:57:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:55:24 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21236; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:55:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21213; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (205.216.137.2 -> pantano.theriver.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:55:22 -0500 Received: from theriver.com (a25.pm3-26.theriver.com [208.164.102.89]) by pantano.theriver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C3925D73; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:54:58 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A1F0D91.F5E4FBD4@theriver.com> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:53:37 -0700 From: Ray Bay X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-NSCPCD (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sashka Subject: Re: [600] cpu upgrade References: <1541492265.20001124183848@tryam.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I agree with whomever said don't do this unless you can afford to buy a new motherboard. It doesn't take much to ruin a motherboard or a CPU. Even a slightly incorrect BIOS will do it. The error messages are in your manual. May boot up when you start the computer with the F1 key down. If you don't know your error messages, you are just fooling around with us on the CPU change, aren't you? If you have that kind of money to spend, why not just buy a used or new motherboard with the CPU you want? Ray From cph Fri Nov 24 21:07:55 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA10219 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:07:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26833; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:06:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:04:34 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26547; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:04:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26534; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:04:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (216.59.47.71 -> d83b2f47.dsl.flashcom.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:04:33 -0500 Received: from sashka (sashka [192.168.0.1]) by ya.dhs.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eAP24XG00232 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:04:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:04:22 -0500 From: Sashka X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Reply-To: Sashka X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19410209059.20001124210422@tryam.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [600] cpu upgrade In-reply-To: <3A1F0D91.F5E4FBD4@theriver.com> References: <1541492265.20001124183848@tryam.com> <3A1F0D91.F5E4FBD4@theriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, Let's say. If IBM doesn't know that CPU could be upgraded (they just told me, that CPU is SOLDERED on the board ;-) then.. what should I say. Error message is not in my manual. Error number 127 is not there. I called IBM. They also doesn't know what is this error means. So far, I think it is "Hey! What is that cpu you put in me? I don't know it, but.. I will try to use it :)" What kind of money? I think my notebook is under warranty. So why should I worry about new motherboard? but, you know, I will ask few my friends if they can find 600x board for me. It will fit my 600e just perfect. Btw, for last few weeks I upgraded so many notebooks (all of them of cause weren't upgradable ;-), so I could see if there is possibility to upgrade CPU or not. I'm sure, if I will take any 2645-4au 600e it can be used with Pentium III 500 mhz (it has support for coppermine cpu's also, and 100mhz bus)... Friday, November 24, 2000, 7:53:37 PM, you wrote: RB> I agree with whomever said don't do this unless you can afford to buy RB> a new motherboard. It doesn't take much to ruin a motherboard or a RB> CPU. Even a slightly incorrect BIOS will do it. RB> The error messages are in your manual. May boot up when you start the RB> computer with the F1 key down. If you don't know your error messages, RB> you are just fooling around with us on the CPU change, aren't you? RB> If you have that kind of money to spend, why not just buy a used or RB> new motherboard with the CPU you want? -- Sashka e-mail : list@tryam.com 2B OR (NOT 2B) = FF From cph Fri Nov 24 21:59:50 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA10458 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:59:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00628; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:57:29 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00380; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:57:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00366; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (194.75.152.224 -> doggy.lineone.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:57:26 -0500 Received: from hicdbs (host212-140-107-132.btinternet.com [212.140.107.132]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA10885 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:57:15 GMT Message-Id: <200011250257.CAA10885@scooby.lineone.net> From: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" To: "thinkpad" Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 22:12:55 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <200011241958.eAOJwl526771@lima.epix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: gps List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id VAA00628 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id VAA10459 On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:58:27 -0500, Julian Thomas wrote: >>Can someone recommend a good (but not too expensive) GPS device and >>software to use with my Thinkpad? > >Anything that will work with OS2???? ofcourse :) go to http://hobbes.nmsu.edu and look for 'gps' and 'map'. you'll find a very good program made by some guy in the US, his program is capable of using virtually any map! Even bitmap images of maps. you can even load World War II maps or any other kind of 'map' and it will work fine. You can then make your own travelling maps etc. his program runs fine under OS/2 warp4 or WSeB and can use your serial port of the ThinkPad to communicate with devices. Its also possible to use a PCMCIA GPS because the gps will be 'seen' as a com port. þ H.I.C. & D.B.S. þ OS/2 Warp þ Hellas þ þ ServerConfig þ ConfigEdit þ OS/2 UK UG þ þ Life fast, die young, and leave a handsome corpse. þ From cph Fri Nov 24 23:58:51 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA11130 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 23:58:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10542; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 23:57:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 23:56:02 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10226; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 23:56:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.interramp.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10212; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 23:56:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.interramp.com (38.8.45.2 -> smtp1.interramp.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 24 Nov 2000 23:56:00 -0500 Received: from [154.5.213.83] (helo=ip83.toronto63.dialup.canada.psi.net) by smtp1.interramp.com with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 13zXNM-0003hr-00; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 23:55:49 -0500 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: chuck@ccncn.org Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Re External HD backup/EZ Gig for sale Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 04:55:51 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: References: <3A1E981A.22411.A9CFC@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3A1E981A.22411.A9CFC@localhost> Lines: 25 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: Am I in time? In article <3A1E981A.22411.A9CFC@localhost>, you wrote: >On 20 Nov 2000, at 0:55, Bill Morrow wrote: > >> Apricorn sells a PCMCIA based adapter.. >> used for cloning drives.. >> a housing comes with it for adding a 2.5inch HDD as an external.. > >I have an Apricorn EZ-Gig PCMCIA adapter; you supply the hard >drive. I >have never been able to make this work under Win98SE, but it >worked >fine under Win95. First $20 can have it as is. (I have no idea about >Linux or OS/2) > >Chuck Blaisdell > > -- cheers Jonathan Berry http://www.islandnet.com/~jberry/ to know more than you want From cph Sat Nov 25 02:08:33 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA11991 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:08:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17329; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:08:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:06:31 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17145; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:06:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17130; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:06:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:06:30 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-73.gate.net [199.227.20.136]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA294690; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:06:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3A1F64F2.F806458@gate.net> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:06:26 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Berry CC: chuck@ccncn.org, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Re External HD backup/EZ Gig for sale References: <3A1E981A.22411.A9CFC@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: the ez-gig should have a proprietarty diskette with it which does the clone of one drive to another.. Jonathan Berry wrote: > Am I in time? > > In article <3A1E981A.22411.A9CFC@localhost>, you wrote: > >On 20 Nov 2000, at 0:55, Bill Morrow wrote: > > > >> Apricorn sells a PCMCIA based adapter.. > >> used for cloning drives.. > >> a housing comes with it for adding a 2.5inch HDD as an external.. > > > >I have an Apricorn EZ-Gig PCMCIA adapter; you supply the hard > >drive. I > >have never been able to make this work under Win98SE, but it > >worked > >fine under Win95. First $20 can have it as is. (I have no idea about > >Linux or OS/2) > > > >Chuck Blaisdell > > > > > > -- > cheers > Jonathan Berry > http://www.islandnet.com/~jberry/ to know more than you want -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Sat Nov 25 02:46:49 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA12109 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:46:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19549; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:46:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:44:27 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19252; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19239; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:44:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:44:26 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-73.gate.net [199.227.20.136]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA174974; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:44:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3A1F6DC2.586B37EE@gate.net> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:44:02 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Bell CC: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: Two Beeps at Startup References: <200011242151.IAA28071@zeus.tassie.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: try the hardware manual for the 385.. its vol4hmm.pdf.. the beep codes are on page 46/58 (58 is the adobe page #) but it may be that these beeps are meaningless.. Alex Bell wrote: > I have been struggling for a year on two continents with three > distributions to get Linux to work with my ThinkPad 385XD and an > external monitor. Nothing I have tried works, and the latest rendition > evokes two beeps from the computer when Linux is booted. I have no > idea what bios the ThinkPad uses. > > Can anyone please tell me what the two beeps means, or where to find > out? -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Sat Nov 25 02:53:37 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA12128 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:53:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20332; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:51:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:50:22 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20082; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:50:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20069; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:50:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:50:20 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-73.gate.net [199.227.20.136]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA175018; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:49:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3A1F6F27.1F4409C@gate.net> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:49:59 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sashka CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [600] cpu upgrade References: <1541492265.20001124183848@tryam.com> <3A1F0D91.F5E4FBD4@theriver.com> <19410209059.20001124210422@tryam.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: there is an old russian proverb.. "I can't afford the cheap stuff".. referring to vodka, i think, but it is applicable to many things in life.. :-) Sashka wrote: > Hello, > > Let's say. If IBM doesn't know that CPU could be upgraded (they just > told me, that CPU is SOLDERED on the board ;-) then.. what should I > say. > Error message is not in my manual. Error number 127 is not there. I > called IBM. They also doesn't know what is this error means. So far, I > think it is "Hey! What is that cpu you put in me? I don't know it, > but.. I will try to use it :)" > > What kind of money? I think my notebook is under warranty. So why > should I worry about new motherboard? but, you know, I will ask few my > friends if they can find 600x board for me. It will fit my 600e just > perfect. > > Btw, for last few weeks I upgraded so many notebooks (all of them of > cause weren't upgradable ;-), so I could see if there is possibility > to upgrade CPU or not. I'm sure, if I will take any 2645-4au 600e it > can be used with Pentium III 500 mhz (it has support for coppermine > cpu's also, and 100mhz bus)... > > Friday, November 24, 2000, 7:53:37 PM, you wrote: > RB> I agree with whomever said don't do this unless you can afford to buy > RB> a new motherboard. It doesn't take much to ruin a motherboard or a > RB> CPU. Even a slightly incorrect BIOS will do it. > > RB> The error messages are in your manual. May boot up when you start the > RB> computer with the F1 key down. If you don't know your error messages, > RB> you are just fooling around with us on the CPU change, aren't you? > > RB> If you have that kind of money to spend, why not just buy a used or > RB> new motherboard with the CPU you want? > > -- > Sashka > e-mail : list@tryam.com > 2B OR (NOT 2B) = FF -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Sat Nov 25 13:37:54 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA15104 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:37:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13784; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:37:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:32:08 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13132; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:32:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from corb.mc.mpls.visi.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13119; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:32:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from corb.mc.mpls.visi.com (208.42.156.1 -> corb.mc.mpls.visi.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:32:06 -0500 Received: from zippy (170-88.dynamic.visi.com [209.98.170.88]) by corb.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F2CF8118; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:31:36 -0600 (CST) From: "Chris Schumann" To: "Sashka" , Subject: RE: [600] cpu upgrade Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:32:28 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <19410209059.20001124210422@tryam.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: Again, I wish you good luck in this. You are braver than I. Checking on IBM's support site, I find these differences between your 26454AU and my 26455FU: 600E 600X 66MHz 100MHz System bus speed 256AV 256ZX Video controller 2.5MB 4MB Video memory 1x 2x Video AGP standard PIIX4E PIIX4M EIDE/ISA/USB controller 1251 1450 CardBus controller Mwave Lucent Modem 4239 4624 Sound These are the differences I could find using the tbook and twbook files. It's easy to believe there are more differences that wouldn't be important unless you want to upgrade your CPU. Maybe that will help you. I think you'll be lucky to keep all the chips running at 100MHz, myself. The BIOS for the 600X may not be able to deal with the PIIX4 or CardBus chips. As for your error, it's not in my 600X manual either. Keep us posted, Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Sashka [mailto:list@tryam.com] > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 8:04 PM > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: [600] cpu upgrade > > > Hello, > > Let's say. If IBM doesn't know that CPU could be upgraded (they just > told me, that CPU is SOLDERED on the board ;-) then.. what should I > say. > Error message is not in my manual. Error number 127 is not there. I > called IBM. They also doesn't know what is this error means. So far, I > think it is "Hey! What is that cpu you put in me? I don't know it, > but.. I will try to use it :)" > > What kind of money? I think my notebook is under warranty. So why > should I worry about new motherboard? but, you know, I will ask few my > friends if they can find 600x board for me. It will fit my 600e just > perfect. > > Btw, for last few weeks I upgraded so many notebooks (all of them of > cause weren't upgradable ;-), so I could see if there is possibility > to upgrade CPU or not. I'm sure, if I will take any 2645-4au 600e it > can be used with Pentium III 500 mhz (it has support for coppermine > cpu's also, and 100mhz bus)... > > Friday, November 24, 2000, 7:53:37 PM, you wrote: > RB> I agree with whomever said don't do this unless you can > afford to buy > RB> a new motherboard. It doesn't take much to ruin a motherboard or a > RB> CPU. Even a slightly incorrect BIOS will do it. > > RB> The error messages are in your manual. May boot up when > you start the > RB> computer with the F1 key down. If you don't know your > error messages, > RB> you are just fooling around with us on the CPU change, aren't you? > > RB> If you have that kind of money to spend, why not just buy > a used or > RB> new motherboard with the CPU you want? > > > -- > Sashka > e-mail : list@tryam.com > 2B OR (NOT 2B) = FF > > > From cph Sat Nov 25 14:25:45 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA15289 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:25:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17666; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:25:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:22:30 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17236; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:22:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from rad3.1stup.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17223; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from rad3.1stup.com (209.143.242.34 -> rad3.1stup.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:22:28 -0500 Received: from mail.orion.org (slip-32-100-176-209.mo.us.prserv.net [32.100.176.209]) by rad3.1stup.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eAPJLk914742; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 11:21:47 -0800 Message-ID: <3A1F8EFB.DB02AFB9@mail.orion.org> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 04:05:47 -0600 From: Shawn Lin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sashka CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [600] cpu upgrade References: <1541492265.20001124183848@tryam.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Sashka wrote: > > As far as I can remember, 600e and 600x are almost same. the only > difference I found is BIOS and 600e has 32mb onboard and 600x has 64. > I'm sure, that if I will find way to flash 600x bios in to 600e I will > get it work. Anyway, this notebook I brought only for testing this > thing. It works now, but I have to press few buttons to boot in > Windows. And computer works at 100mhz bus. Have you tried downloading the 600X BIOS update disk, and the 600E BIOS update disk, then renaming the 600X BIOS file to the same name as the 600E file, and then copying it to the 600E BIOS disk? I know on my ThinkPad 560X, the flash ROM image is a file ending in .$fl or .fl$ or something like that. I personally would not try it myself without being 100% sure that the motherboards use the same chipset, same I/O chipset, same Cardbus slot controller, same graphics chip, etc. You could permanently disable your computer, making it necessary to remove/reprogram the BIOS chip. > So far, I can see few problems: on board memory might not work on > 100mhz bus. But mine, looks like working. > > And one more thing. Does anyone know what means error 127 after > memory test? Where can I find list of this error messages? Or should I > call IBM support to find out that? Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. After all, you said it works and it boots. So Win2000Pro doesn't recognize it as a PIII, I don't think that'll really affect much. You got lucky that it works at all. :) Shawn ________________________________________________________ 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com From cph Sat Nov 25 14:47:45 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA15352 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:47:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19990; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:46:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:43:12 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19406; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:43:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19392; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:43:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (216.59.47.71 -> d83b2f47.dsl.flashcom.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:43:10 -0500 Received: from sashka (sashka [192.168.0.1]) by ya.dhs.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eAPJh3q00239; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:43:08 -0500 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:42:57 -0500 From: Sashka X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Reply-To: Sashka X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16314830905.20001125144257@tryam.com> To: Shawn Lin CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [600] cpu upgrade In-reply-To: <3A1F8EFB.DB02AFB9@mail.orion.org> References: <1541492265.20001124183848@tryam.com> <3A1F8EFB.DB02AFB9@mail.orion.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, SL> Have you tried downloading the 600X BIOS update disk, and the 600E BIOS SL> update disk, then renaming the 600X BIOS file to the same name as the SL> 600E file, and then copying it to the 600E BIOS disk? I know on my SL> ThinkPad 560X, the flash ROM image is a file ending in .$fl or .fl$ or SL> something like that. Yes, it still thinks, that this bios for 600x. I couldn't figure out how it checks for model number, etc. As soon as I figure that out it will work. >> And one more thing. Does anyone know what means error 127 after >> memory test? Where can I find list of this error messages? Or should I >> call IBM support to find out that? SL> Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. After all, you said it works and SL> it boots. So Win2000Pro doesn't recognize it as a PIII, I don't think SL> that'll really affect much. You got lucky that it works at all. :) Yes, it works. but I don't like to be near notebook when it boots. I like to put it on table and go to kitchen to get some coffee and when I'm back - computer already in Windows. :) -- Sashka e-mail : list@tryam.com "DOS addresses only 1 Megabyte of RAM because we cannot imagine any applications needing more." - Microsoft, 1980, on the development of DOS From cph Sun Nov 26 09:41:53 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id JAA30494 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 09:41:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23622; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 09:32:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 09:30:04 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23368; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 09:30:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23355; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 09:29:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (216.33.241.65 -> f65.law8.hotmail.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 09:29:59 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 06:29:57 -0800 Received: from 203.184.148.6 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:29:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.184.148.6] From: "Jake Holmen" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Help - video out 600E Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:29:57 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Nov 2000 14:29:57.0289 (UTC) FILETIME=[59C0F990:01C057B5] List-Unsubscribe: Hey, how goes it. I have a 600E with a dvd drive. At the moment, I am in Hong Kong, and salivating all over the cheap vcd's and dvd's that are available here. However, I haven't been able to get the video out to work on my machine. I have the little cable that came with the machine and the audio/video rca cable that can plug into the machine's audio and this video cable, but I can't make the software (NEOMAGIC) work. The settings on the property seem to have TV disabled, the radio button is permanently stuck to LCD and TV is greyed out. I run w95. Can someone help here? Cheers. J PS - anyone one want any cheap copies with only a bit of cantonese subtitles?? :) they're everywhere. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com From cph Sun Nov 26 10:51:23 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA30778 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 10:51:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28784; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 10:51:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 10:49:23 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28586; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 10:49:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28573; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 10:49:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011261549.KAA28573@cs.utk.edu> Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.34 -> out4.prserv.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 10:49:19 -0500 Received: from slip202-135-81-10.bg.th.ibm.net ([202.135.81.10]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2000112615490520402j62nse>; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:49:10 +0000 From: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" To: "Jake Holmen" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Cc: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:48:10 +0700 Reply-To: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Help - video out 600E List-Unsubscribe: Yes, it looks as though you may have run an out-of-region DVD, which may have permanently disabled your system. Read the warning notices with the software. Jeffrey Race On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:29:57 -0000, Jake Holmen wrote: >Hey, how goes it. > >I have a 600E with a dvd drive. At the moment, I am in Hong Kong, and >salivating all over the cheap vcd's and dvd's that are available here. >However, I haven't been able to get the video out to work on my machine. >I have the little cable that came with the machine and the audio/video rca >cable that can plug into the machine's audio and this video cable, but I >can't make the software (NEOMAGIC) work. > >The settings on the property seem to have TV disabled, the radio button is >permanently stuck to LCD and TV is greyed out. > >I run w95. Can someone help here? > >Cheers. >J >PS - anyone one want any cheap copies with only a bit of cantonese >subtitles?? :) they're everywhere. >_____________________________________________________________________ ________________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > From cph Sun Nov 26 11:08:08 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA30843 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:08:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29826; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:07:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:06:17 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29649; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:06:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29626; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:06:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mosquito.ny.ans.net (147.225.174.39 -> mosquito.ny.ans.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:06:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by mosquito.ny.ans.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02582 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:06:04 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: mosquito.ny.ans.net: bkomar owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:06:04 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Komar X-Sender: bkomar@mosquito.ny.ans.net To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: 365XD Modem? In-Reply-To: <3A1F8EFB.DB02AFB9@mail.orion.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Does anyone have a recommendation for a faster modem on this model? What after market modems work well with this? My son recently aquired a 365 and would like to speed up his connect speed. Thanks, Bruce _________________________________________________________________________ From cph Sun Nov 26 11:52:33 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA31007 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:52:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02004; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:49:55 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01811; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:49:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01798; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:49:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (207.69.200.57 -> mclean.mail.mindspring.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:49:53 -0500 Received: from BallardA.ATL (user-38ld3e3.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.141.195]) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01938 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:49:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011261649.LAA01938@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:47:48 -0500 Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Mwave class action List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone else received a large file pertaining to a class action regarding Mwave, apparently. Who brought the action? What is alleged? Allan Ballard From cph Sun Nov 26 11:54:56 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA31022 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:54:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02504; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:54:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:52:42 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02240; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:52:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9502.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02109; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:51:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9502.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.129.132 -> web9502.mail.yahoo.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:51:53 -0500 Message-ID: <20001126165152.13253.qmail@web9502.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.221.61.56] by web9502.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 08:51:52 PST Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 08:51:52 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: Re: gps To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Delorme currently has refurbished Tripmate GPS units on sale for only $50.00 on their website. That's cheaper than they can be found on ebay. They aren't worth a damn as they come from Delorme, with their passive antenna which is just a 2" square piece of pc board material. However, they can be upgraded with an amplified antenna pretty easily if you don't mind a little tinkering then work really great. http://www.delorme.com/user/bargains.htm > > >>Can someone recommend a good (but not too > expensive) GPS device and > >>software to use with my Thinkpad? > > > >Anything that will work with OS2???? > > ofcourse :) ===== Sprint Broadband Direct Sucks, they should call it Sprint Narrowband! That is, when it's not DOWN! My old phone modem was faster! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ From cph Sun Nov 26 13:16:37 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA31610 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:16:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08275; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:15:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:13:20 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07992; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:13:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07978; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (194.75.152.224 -> doggy.lineone.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:13:17 -0500 Received: from hicdbs (host212-140-107-135.btinternet.com [212.140.107.135]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA23521 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:13:06 GMT Message-Id: <200011261813.SAA23521@scooby.lineone.net> From: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" To: "thinkpad" Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:13:02 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Help - video out 600E List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id NAA08275 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id NAA31611 On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:29:57 -0000, Jake Holmen wrote: >I have a 600E with a dvd drive. At the moment, I am in Hong Kong, and >salivating all over the cheap vcd's and dvd's that are available here. >However, I haven't been able to get the video out to work on my machine. >I have the little cable that came with the machine and the audio/video rca >cable that can plug into the machine's audio and this video cable, but I >can't make the software (NEOMAGIC) work. I dont know the answer to your question, but i've got a question myself. I also have a 600E without TV out, does anyone know its possible to upgrade my machine to include TV out? thnx þ H.I.C. & D.B.S. þ OS/2 Warp þ Hellas þ þ ServerConfig þ ConfigEdit þ OS/2 UK UG þ þ Life fast, die young, and leave a handsome corpse. þ From cph Sun Nov 26 14:08:30 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA31898 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:08:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12549; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:07:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:04:35 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12103; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:04:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12083; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:04:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.51 -> mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:04:33 -0500 Received: from 245.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.152.245]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001126190431.MORO20084.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@245.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:04:31 +0000 From: epbrown01@att.net (Emanuel Brown) To: "thinkpad" Subject: Re: Help - video out 600E Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:04:28 GMT Reply-To: epbrown01@att.net Message-ID: <3a215dfc.171852403@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <200011261813.SAA23521@scooby.lineone.net> In-Reply-To: <200011261813.SAA23521@scooby.lineone.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id OAA31899 On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:13:02 +0000 (GMT), you wrote: >I dont know the answer to your question, but i've got a question myself. > >I also have a 600E without TV out, does anyone know its possible to >upgrade my machine to include TV out? I've been thinking of attempting to do this myself, but haven't tried it. According to the hardware maintenance manual for the 600E, this is simply a card on the systemboard that's left off for some models. I *looks* as if all you need to do is get the card, plug it in, and punch out the bit of plastic covering where the jack would go. Knowing computers, I suspect it's not that simple. If you give it a try, I'd like to hear about the results. Emanuel "Everybody wants a normal life and a cool car; most people settle for the car." Chris Titus 1983 911 SC http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/91183.jpg From cph Sun Nov 26 15:23:42 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA32318 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:23:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17800; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:20:26 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17399; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17386; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:20:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (216.59.47.71 -> d83b2f47.dsl.flashcom.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:20:24 -0500 Received: from sashka (sashka [192.168.0.1]) by ya.dhs.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eAQKKNw00160; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:20:24 -0500 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:20:17 -0500 From: Sashka X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Reply-To: Sashka X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <75780161.20001126152017@tryam.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu CC: thinkpad600series@egroups.com Subject: [600e] cpu upgrade Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, Someone might be interested. I was making research if it possible to upgrade ANY 600e to higher speed. Yes. It is possible. Ibm has CPU upgrade module (p/n 10L1333). It is Pentium II 400Mhz cpu module. I made small research at PowerSourceOnline.com and found, that few companies have it for sale. I don't think it's good way to get CPU upgrade module. Digilog Electronics Inc. (Tel 773-384-8300 x 309) has 8pcs in stock for $350 each. I think, if I can get Pentium III 500mhz for $129.00 at eBay, cpu for $350 is to expensive. And for these people, who says, that I can't do anything to my notebook, what is not written in manual I have question: why IBM sells this CPU modules if upgrade of CPU will void warranty? -- Sashka "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943 From cph Sun Nov 26 16:05:54 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA00361 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:05:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22826; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:04:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:02:52 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22387; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:02:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22374; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:02:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (208.147.154.56 -> fly.HiWAAY.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:02:50 -0500 Received: from dwreid (tnt10-216-180-65-215.dialup.hiwaay.net [216.180.65.215]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id eAQL2l729427 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:02:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001501c057ec$3a2e8700$d741b4d8@dwreid> From: "David Reid" To: "ThinkPad-L" Subject: TP Video drivers and Microsoft Agent Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:02:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 List-Unsubscribe: Has anyone here on the list and running Microsoft Agent, experienced any problems with video display? I'm running a 770z with what I assume is the latest vid drivers from IBM. Upon boot up, any text which should appear in the Agent character balloons or in the drop down menus, does not appear. To resolve this, a quick flip flop of screen resolution or color will temporarily fix the problem. Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks dave From cph Sun Nov 26 16:58:03 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA00660 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:58:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26964; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:56:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:54:57 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26722; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:54:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26708; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:54:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie.loop.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:54:55 -0500 Received: from tp701.pkhoury.com (p09.hwts17.loop.net [207.211.63.54]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA96786 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:54:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011262154.NAA96786@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:58:35 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ThinkPad 700 and other stuff List-Unsubscribe: Okay, believe it or not, I have yet acquired more notebooks at a swapmeet yesterday, and out of the four (2 Toshiba, 2 ThinkPads), I have a partially working ThinkPad 700. Would anyone have or know where I can get a HD for these units, as I know they're proprietary? The smaller, the better, as I'd like to use this machine for a portable dumb terminal (there's not much you can do with a wannabe-486 386SX). I also got a ThinkPad 360CSE, but it doesn't work (powers on, but no video output). I'll probably play with the Hardware Main Man, but I doubt it's worth fixing (for $10 for each notebook). If anyone needs parts, I can sell the parts dirt cheap. And for those who my ThinkPad Assistant, I might be doing some more updates, and as soon as I get DSL installed at my house (when PacBell doesn't miss an appt), I'll see if I can get machines like the 765, 770, 600, etc on there. Thanks, Paul From cph Sun Nov 26 17:00:45 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA00688 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:00:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27702; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:58:51 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27439; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:58:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27426; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:58:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie.loop.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:58:49 -0500 Received: from tp701.pkhoury.com (p09.hwts17.loop.net [207.211.63.54]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA96921; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:58:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011262158.NAA96921@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Allan Ballard" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:02:21 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mwave class action List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:47:48 -0500, Allan Ballard wrote: >Has anyone else received a large file pertaining to a class action >regarding Mwave, apparently. > >Who brought the action? What is alleged? > I didn't get any large file, but did notice it on IBM's website while looking for something for my ThinkPad. I'll definately take advantage of it, since my 760ED is out of warranty and not working. I think it's alleging IBM made false claims about modem and sound card simultanious functionality. Don't quote me on this please, as I read through the whole lawsuit thingy in about 3 minutes. But anyone who has a ThinkPad or Aptiva with mwave (and is listed in their part listings), take advantage of the suit - either way, you'll get 10% (up to $100 off) a new ThinkPad. Not too bad, that pays for shipping. And I think it says if you had to buy a third party modem for you machine, they'll send you credit for $50 or $100 back (have to go back and read it). Paul From cph Sun Nov 26 17:28:47 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA00863 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:28:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29754; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:16:59 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29487; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29472; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (216.59.47.71 -> d83b2f47.dsl.flashcom.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:16:56 -0500 Received: from sashka (sashka [192.168.0.1]) by ya.dhs.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eAQMGmw00204; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:16:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:16:43 -0500 From: Sashka X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Reply-To: Sashka X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <257763122.20001126171643@tryam.com> To: "Paul Khoury" CC: "ThinkPad List" Subject: Re: Mwave class action In-reply-To: <200011262158.NAA96921@stevie.loop.com> References: <200011262158.NAA96921@stevie.loop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, Can you provide url for this information. Thanks. Sunday, November 26, 2000, 5:02:21 PM, you wrote: PK> On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:47:48 -0500, Allan Ballard wrote: >>Has anyone else received a large file pertaining to a class action >>regarding Mwave, apparently. >> >>Who brought the action? What is alleged? >> PK> I didn't get any large file, but did notice it on IBM's website while looking for PK> something for my ThinkPad. I'll definately take advantage of it, since my 760ED is PK> out of warranty and not working. PK> I think it's alleging IBM made false claims about modem and sound card simultanious PK> functionality. Don't quote me on this please, as I read through the whole lawsuit thingy PK> in about 3 minutes. PK> But anyone who has a ThinkPad or Aptiva with mwave (and is listed in their part listings), take PK> advantage of the suit - either way, you'll get 10% (up to $100 off) a new ThinkPad. Not too bad, PK> that pays for shipping. And I think it says if you had to buy a third party PK> modem for you machine, they'll send you credit for $50 or $100 back (have to go back PK> and read it). PK> Paul -- Sashka e-mail : list@tryam.com "I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with the best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that won't last out the year." The editor in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 1957 From cph Sun Nov 26 17:33:37 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA00883 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:33:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00520; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:23:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:21:48 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00270; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:21:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00257; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie.loop.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:21:45 -0500 Received: from tp701.pkhoury.com (p09.hwts17.loop.net [207.211.63.54]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA97537; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:21:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011262221.OAA97537@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "ThinkPad List" , "jbrush@www.aros.net" Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:25:37 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 760ED display List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:51:33 -0700 (MST), jbrush@www.aros.net wrote: > >What is driving me crazy is the screen prior to the OS >loading. The display is only about 5" X 5" and the text >is so small my old eyes can't always make it out. It is >an XGA screen, and its not the end of the world, but the >splash screens for the OSes are small and unimpressive. Have you set vertical expansion on under the video submenu in the ThinkPad Utilities? This should fix your problem, as I experienced the same on Win98, OS/2, and Win2000. Paul From cph Sun Nov 26 17:35:59 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA00891 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:35:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01080; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:25:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:23:32 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00660; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:23:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00599; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:23:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie.loop.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:23:29 -0500 Received: from tp701.pkhoury.com (p09.hwts17.loop.net [207.211.63.54]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA97564; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:22:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011262222.OAA97564@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Sashka" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:26:16 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mwave class action List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:16:43 -0500, Sashka wrote: >Hello, > >Can you provide url for this information. Yeah, forgot about that. Thanks. It's http://www.ibmmwavesettlement.com Paul From cph Sun Nov 26 18:01:21 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA01073 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:01:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03665; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:50:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:48:55 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03389; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.port.ru (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03376; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:48:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.port.ru (194.67.23.32 -> mx1.port.ru) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:48:52 -0500 Received: from dial81.etel.ru ([195.38.38.81] helo=azot) by smtp1.port.ru with smtp (Exim 3.14 #62) id 140AbE-0005ff-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 01:48:44 +0300 Message-ID: <000d01c057fc$fbb71a30$512626c3@azot> From: "BlUe hvn@stake" To: Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:02:37 +0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 List-Unsubscribe: I recently bought an IBM Thinkpad 560 through Ebay and of course I assumed that the battery would be very weak, but the battery doesn't seem to want to charge at all. The indicator light completely fails to light up. Is this a problem with the battery or the charging circuit? Thanks Troy From cph Sun Nov 26 19:58:57 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA01605 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:58:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13994; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:55:20 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13676; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:55:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13661; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:55:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011270055.TAA13661@cs.utk.edu> Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.31 -> out1.prserv.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:55:16 -0500 Received: from slip202-135-81-221.bg.th.ibm.net ([202.135.81.221]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <2000112700550720105crc07e>; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:55:09 +0000 From: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" To: "Paul Khoury" , "ThinkPad List" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 07:55:07 +0700 Reply-To: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad 700 and other stuff List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:58:35 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: >I have a partially working ThinkPad 700. Would anyone have or know where>I can get a HD for these units, www.bluestarusa.com or e-mail danf@bluestarusa.com (Dan Flaherty) Jeffrey Race From cph Sun Nov 26 20:34:51 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA01983 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:34:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17620; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:34:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:32:28 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17365; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17343; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:32:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net (207.69.200.148 -> granger.mail.mindspring.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:32:25 -0500 Received: from BallardA.ATL (user-38ld11h.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.132.49]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA16885; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:32:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011270132.UAA16885@granger.mail.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Paul Khoury" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:30:18 -0500 Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mwave class action List-Unsubscribe: I had to buy a pc card modem in Paris - no way I still have the receipt. On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:02:21 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: >On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:47:48 -0500, Allan Ballard wrote: > >>Has anyone else received a large file pertaining to a class action >>regarding Mwave, apparently. >> >>Who brought the action? What is alleged? >> > >I didn't get any large file, but did notice it on IBM's website while looking for >something for my ThinkPad. I'll definately take advantage of it, since my 760ED is >out of warranty and not working. > >I think it's alleging IBM made false claims about modem and sound card simultanious >functionality. Don't quote me on this please, as I read through the whole lawsuit thingy >in about 3 minutes. > >But anyone who has a ThinkPad or Aptiva with mwave (and is listed in their part listings), take >advantage of the suit - either way, you'll get 10% (up to $100 off) a new ThinkPad. Not too bad, >that pays for shipping. And I think it says if you had to buy a third party >modem for you machine, they'll send you credit for $50 or $100 back (have to go back >and read it). > >Paul > > From cph Sun Nov 26 21:03:00 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA02155 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:02:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20852; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:02:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:00:33 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20548; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:00:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9507.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20348; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:59:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9507.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.129.21 -> web9507.mail.yahoo.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:59:10 -0500 Message-ID: <20001127015910.42421.qmail@web9507.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.221.61.56] by web9507.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:59:10 PST Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:59:10 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: Re: ThinkPad 700 and other stuff To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Those PS/2 drives are hard to find but I found a drive at the swapmeet! Spare battery too. They have a very nice display and keyboard, better than newer Thinkpads. There is a lot you can do with it if you don't mind it being slow, I'm using mine for a webserver. I installed Win95 and am running the microsoft personal webserver. --- Paul Khoury wrote: > Okay, believe it or not, I have yet acquired more > notebooks > at a swapmeet yesterday, and out of the four (2 > Toshiba, 2 ThinkPads), > I have a partially working ThinkPad 700. Would > anyone have or know where > I can get a HD for these units, as I know they're > proprietary? The smaller, the better, > as I'd like to use this machine for a portable dumb > terminal (there's not much you > can do with a wannabe-486 386SX). ===== Sprint Broadband Direct Sucks, they should call it Sprint Narrowband! That is, when it's not DOWN! My old phone modem was faster! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ From cph Sun Nov 26 23:18:58 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA02881 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:18:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09652; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:17:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:14:29 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09291; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:14:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from aw3.actionweb.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09278; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:14:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from aw3.actionweb.com (209.150.128.55 -> aw3.actionweb.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:14:26 -0500 Received: from genesis (is-isdn84.cc.andrews.edu [143.207.55.101]) by aw3.actionweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA14482 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:14:12 -0600 Reply-To: From: "David D. Kim" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: boot problem: TP600x Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:30:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Hi all, I recently bought a used TP600x. While trying to resolve a hard drive controller problem, I am not unable to boot from the hard drive (gives me error I9990305, no bootable drive found). Using a Win98 boot disk tells me that drive c: does not have a valid FAT or FAT32 partition. Is there a way to get Windows98 load without having to re-partition my hard drive and re-load all of my software? Thanks for any help in advance, David From cph Sun Nov 26 23:38:36 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA03014 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:38:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11491; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:37:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:36:01 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11237; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from server.accumedia.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11224; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:35:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from server.accumedia.com (204.144.133.110 -> gw.accumedia.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:35:58 -0500 Received: from accumedia.com (houdini.accumedia.com [172.16.0.4]) by server.accumedia.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eAR3tuq25425; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:55:57 -0700 Subject: RE: boot problem: TP600x Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:35:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4368.4 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: boot problem: TP600x Thread-Index: AcBYKJxpCE9CrVTtT/+IBf0kkB2zbAAAP+SQ From: "Steve Hultquist" To: , "Thinkpad List" List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id XAA03015 I'm confused. Have you already installed something on the 600X? If so, what? My guess is that either the controller is still bad or the bad controller has managed to scramble the disk, if you had 98 on it before the problem. ssh > -----Original Message----- > From: David D. Kim [mailto:david@sksda.org] > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 21:30 > To: Thinkpad List > Subject: boot problem: TP600x > > > Hi all, > > I recently bought a used TP600x. While trying to resolve a hard drive > controller problem, I am not unable to boot from the hard > drive (gives me > error I9990305, no bootable drive found). Using a Win98 boot > disk tells me > that drive c: does not have a valid FAT or FAT32 partition. > > Is there a way to get Windows98 load without having to > re-partition my hard > drive and re-load all of my software? > > Thanks for any help in advance, > David > > From cph Sun Nov 26 23:57:28 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA03120 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:57:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13320; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:56:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:54:42 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13101; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:54:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13081; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:54:40 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.48 -> mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:54:41 -0500 Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.135.29]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001127045439.LFT2287.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:54:39 +0000 Received: from [24.190.235.208] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:54:39 +0000 To: Cc: "David D. Kim" , "Thinkpad List" Subject: Re: boot problem: TP600x Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:54:39 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 2 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: scosgt@att.net Message-Id: <20001127045439.LFT2287.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> List-Unsubscribe: I have several 600's On one of them, I can only get it to see a hard drive that has been partitioned on that specific machine, on the others I was able to clone hard drives on a 760 using a second hard drive adaptor and then use directly in a 600. Sometimes the BIOS will only see a hard drive partitioned on that machine. You could try using a Partition Magic boot disk, but I doubt that would work. What I did was to put the drive into another machine that could see it, do a complete backup, then do FDISK in the suspect machine, and a complete restore from the backup. That worked. Also, go into EASY SETUP (Hold the F1 key at startup) and make sure that Hard drive #1 is the boot drive, also you diud not mention what brand of hard drive is in there, sometimes there is a jumpering issue. > Hi all, > > I recently bought a used TP600x. While trying to resolve a hard drive > controller problem, I am not unable to boot from the hard drive (gives me > error I9990305, no bootable drive found). Using a Win98 boot disk tells me > that drive c: does not have a valid FAT or FAT32 partition. > > Is there a way to get Windows98 load without having to re-partition my hard > drive and re-load all of my software? > > Thanks for any help in advance, > David > From cph Mon Nov 27 00:01:17 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA03442 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:01:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14065; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:00:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:58:25 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13726; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:58:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from aw3.actionweb.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13712; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:58:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from aw3.actionweb.com (209.150.128.55 -> aw3.actionweb.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:58:23 -0500 Received: from genesis (is-isdn84.cc.andrews.edu [143.207.55.101]) by aw3.actionweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA19282 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:58:10 -0600 Reply-To: From: "David D. Kim" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: RE: boot problem: TP600x Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:14:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: My 600x was running fine (as far as I could tell) except for the driver conflict (yellow exclamation mark) shown on device manager. I know, I should have left it alone, but I tried updating it...and that's when the problem began. Is there a System boot disk that comes with the new 600x? Right now, I can't even access EasySetup. David -----Original Message----- From: Steve Hultquist [mailto:ssh@accumedia.com] Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 11:36 PM To: david@sksda.org; Thinkpad List Subject: RE: boot problem: TP600x I'm confused. Have you already installed something on the 600X? If so, what? My guess is that either the controller is still bad or the bad controller has managed to scramble the disk, if you had 98 on it before the problem. ssh > -----Original Message----- > From: David D. Kim [mailto:david@sksda.org] > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 21:30 > To: Thinkpad List > Subject: boot problem: TP600x > > > Hi all, > > I recently bought a used TP600x. While trying to resolve a hard drive > controller problem, I am not unable to boot from the hard > drive (gives me > error I9990305, no bootable drive found). Using a Win98 boot > disk tells me > that drive c: does not have a valid FAT or FAT32 partition. > > Is there a way to get Windows98 load without having to > re-partition my hard > drive and re-load all of my software? > > Thanks for any help in advance, > David > > From cph Mon Nov 27 00:21:02 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA03601 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:21:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16009; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:17:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:15:19 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15736; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15722; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:15:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.47 -> mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:15:18 -0500 Received: from 208.chicago-03-04rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.149.208]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001127051516.TKAS5130.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@208.chicago-03-04rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 05:15:16 +0000 From: epbrown01@att.net (Emanuel Brown) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [600e] cpu upgrade Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 05:15:14 GMT Reply-To: epbrown01@att.net Message-ID: <3a24ec53.208291632@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <75780161.20001126152017@tryam.com> In-Reply-To: <75780161.20001126152017@tryam.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id AAA03602 On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:20:17 -0500, you wrote: >And for these people, who says, that I can't do anything to my > notebook, what is not written in manual I have question: why IBM > sells this CPU modules if upgrade of CPU will void warranty? I'd love to see any evidence that IBM is selling this as an upgrade. I see no evidence they sell it at all, but I would expect them to see it as a replacement part for a defective unit if they were selling it; in other words, to swap with the bad one in a 600X, not to upgrade a 600 or 600E. They've never claimed that the 600 series is CPU upgradeable, and likely won't. I know a company that offered laptops that were user-upgradeable, and they're out of business. One of their tech staff confided that it was a support nightmare. Emanuel "Everybody wants a normal life and a cool car; most people settle for the car." Chris Titus 1983 911 SC http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/91183.jpg From cph Mon Nov 27 00:42:28 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA03697 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:42:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18385; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:41:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:39:20 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18082; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:39:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18064; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:39:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.47 -> mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:39:19 -0500 Received: from 208.chicago-03-04rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.149.208]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001127053913.TOAV5130.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@208.chicago-03-04rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 05:39:13 +0000 From: epbrown01@att.net (Emanuel Brown) To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: Re: boot problem: TP600x Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 05:39:07 GMT Reply-To: epbrown01@att.net Message-ID: <3a25ee33.208772307@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id AAA03698 On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:30:21 -0500, you wrote: >I recently bought a used TP600x. While trying to resolve a hard drive >controller problem, I am not unable to boot from the hard drive (gives me >error I9990305, no bootable drive found). Using a Win98 boot disk tells me >that drive c: does not have a valid FAT or FAT32 partition. > >Is there a way to get Windows98 load without having to re-partition my hard >drive and re-load all of my software? I'm surprised you're getting a BIOS error - when I screwed this up I simply couldn't load Windows. If I may hazard a guess, you did an install using a retail Windows 98 CD and didn't check the IBM site on installing 98 before doing it. (Hey, it came with 98, right?) Using a retail CD rather than a restore CD from IBM causes too many IDE controllers to be installed, both of the wrong type, iirc. There's an .inf file that you have to install to prevent the error, but you can fix it by installing the file later as well. The file is apminst.inf, and if you've set up your support profile you can reach it by using the "OS Installation" link. I think you also need/can use the ampinst.reg key as well. You're supposed to reference the former when you run Setup.exe to install Windows. I managed to get it to work after I'd installed it by booting into safe mode after doing the same thing you did. If you can manage to get into safe mode again, you're home free. The alternative is a clean re-install of everything. Emanuel "Everybody wants a normal life and a cool car; most people settle for the car." Chris Titus 1983 911 SC http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/91183.jpg From cph Mon Nov 27 00:42:41 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA03702 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:42:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18885; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:40:41 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18244; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from aw3.actionweb.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18231; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from aw3.actionweb.com (209.150.128.55 -> aw3.actionweb.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:40:39 -0500 Received: from genesis (is-isdn84.cc.andrews.edu [143.207.55.101]) by aw3.actionweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA25169 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:40:25 -0600 Reply-To: From: "David D. Kim" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: RE: boot problem: TP600x Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:56:34 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Whew! I finally got access to EasySetup (I guess I needed to cold boot with F1 key pressed) and set the boot drives. This corrected the problem and I'm running Windows again. Thanks all, David -----Original Message----- From: Steve Hultquist [mailto:ssh@accumedia.com] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 12:12 AM To: david@sksda.org Subject: RE: boot problem: TP600x Hmmm... The recovery disk is bootable. If you can't get EasySetup, I'm afraid your BIOS is toast... What happens when you power up? ssh > -----Original Message----- > From: David D. Kim > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 22:03 > To: Steve Hultquist > Subject: RE: boot problem: TP600x > > > My 600x was running fine (as far as I could tell) except for > the driver > conflict (yellow exclamation mark) shown on device manager. I > know, I should > have left it alone, but I tried updating it...and that's when > the problem > began. > > Is there a System boot disk that comes with the new 600x? > Right now, I can't > even access EasySetup. > > David > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Hultquist [mailto:ssh@accumedia.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 11:36 PM > To: david@sksda.org; Thinkpad List > Subject: RE: boot problem: TP600x > > > I'm confused. Have you already installed something on the > 600X? If so, what? > > My guess is that either the controller is still bad or the > bad controller > has > managed to scramble the disk, if you had 98 on it before the problem. > > ssh > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David D. Kim [mailto:david@sksda.org] > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 21:30 > > To: Thinkpad List > > Subject: boot problem: TP600x > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I recently bought a used TP600x. While trying to resolve a > hard drive > > controller problem, I am not unable to boot from the hard > > drive (gives me > > error I9990305, no bootable drive found). Using a Win98 boot > > disk tells me > > that drive c: does not have a valid FAT or FAT32 partition. > > > > Is there a way to get Windows98 load without having to > > re-partition my hard > > drive and re-load all of my software? > > > > Thanks for any help in advance, > > David > > > > > > From cph Mon Nov 27 04:43:15 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id EAA04992 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:43:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02431; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:42:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:40:07 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02103; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02077; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:40:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (194.75.152.224 -> doggy.lineone.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:40:05 -0500 Received: from hicdbs (host212-140-19-188.btinternet.com [212.140.19.188]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA00858 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:39:52 GMT Message-Id: <200011270939.JAA00858@scooby.lineone.net> From: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" To: "thinkpad" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:04:56 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <3a215dfc.171852403@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Help - video out 600E List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id EAA02431 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id EAA04993 On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:04:28 GMT, Emanuel Brown wrote: > I've been thinking of attempting to do this myself, but haven't >tried it. According to the hardware maintenance manual for the 600E, >this is simply a card on the systemboard that's left off for some >models. I *looks* as if all you need to do is get the card, plug it >in, and punch out the bit of plastic covering where the jack would go. >Knowing computers, I suspect it's not that simple. If you give it a >try, I'd like to hear about the results. interesting. if its only a 'card' then our first problem is to find one or two :) is there some manual that gives details like serial numbers of ThinkPad components? þ H.I.C. & D.B.S. þ OS/2 Warp þ Hellas þ þ ServerConfig þ ConfigEdit þ OS/2 UK UG þ þ Life fast, die young, and leave a handsome corpse. þ From cph Mon Nov 27 04:43:21 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id EAA04997 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:43:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02435; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:40:08 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02123; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:40:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02090; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:40:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (194.75.152.224 -> doggy.lineone.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:40:06 -0500 Received: from hicdbs (host212-140-19-188.btinternet.com [212.140.19.188]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA00899 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:39:55 GMT Message-Id: <200011270939.JAA00899@scooby.lineone.net> From: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" To: "thinkpad" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:08:02 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: <200011262158.NAA96921@stevie.loop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Mwave class action List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id EAA02435 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id EAA04998 On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:02:21 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: >I think it's alleging IBM made false claims about modem and sound card simultanious >functionality. Don't quote me on this please, as I read through the whole lawsuit thingy >in about 3 minutes. that sounds like the problem that i had, which forced me to buy a pcmcia card which had a modem in it. when using the sound and the modem at the same time, i usually had some crashes or other kind of behavior like the modem or sound would stop working, and i'd need to reset to get it back. þ H.I.C. & D.B.S. þ OS/2 Warp þ Hellas þ þ ServerConfig þ ConfigEdit þ OS/2 UK UG þ þ Life fast, die young, and leave a handsome corpse. þ From cph Mon Nov 27 06:05:49 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id GAA05260 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 06:05:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10523; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 06:04:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 06:02:33 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10338; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 06:02:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10325; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 06:02:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.48 -> mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 06:02:32 -0500 Received: from 178.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.152.178]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20001127110231.BPTZ2287.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@178.chicago-11-12rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:02:31 +0000 From: epbrown01@att.net (Emanuel Brown) To: "thinkpad" Subject: Re: Help - video out 600E Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:02:29 GMT Reply-To: epbrown01@att.net Message-ID: <3a293d24.228982943@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> References: <200011270939.JAA00858@scooby.lineone.net> In-Reply-To: <200011270939.JAA00858@scooby.lineone.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id GAA05261 On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:04:56 +0000 (GMT), you wrote: >interesting. if its only a 'card' then our first problem is to find one o= >r two :) > >is there some manual that gives details like serial numbers of ThinkPad c= >omponents? I got this information from a booklet called the Hardware Maintenance Manual. It's a book IBM provides for those retail stores that do repairs on their systems in-house, rather than ship them to EZ Serve. There is a .pdf version available, but I don't know where it is - I buy the hard copy because I prefer it, and it only cost $3.16USD. Anyway, it list the part as a TV out card, FRU #10L1192. Instructions for accessing it are on pp. 85 of the manual, and it looks fairly simple. I suspect it would work because unlike Sashka's plan to upgrade the CPU, the existing BIOS is already designed to see the device in a 600E; P&P should detect it without a hitch. Emanuel "Everybody wants a normal life and a cool car; most people settle for the car." Chris Titus 1983 911 SC http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/91183.jpg From cph Mon Nov 27 08:44:52 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id IAA06538 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:44:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17568; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:44:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:42:03 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17293; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17280; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (216.33.241.242 -> f242.law8.hotmail.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:42:00 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 05:41:59 -0800 Received: from 203.184.148.6 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:41:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.184.148.6] From: "Jake Holmen" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Help - video out 600E Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:41:58 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Nov 2000 13:41:59.0036 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0982BC0:01C05877] List-Unsubscribe: Dr Jeffrey, thanks for your reply. I thought about your solution, and I could say for sure that it is the real reason, because I haven't yet run a dvd on my machine and it's not actually the DVD software (DVD Express) that is causing the problem, it's the video out port software by Neomagic. However, I know about the dangers of out of region dvd's I will keep an eye out. (for a hack around of course! ;) If someone has one of these 600E's with all the video out options enabled, could they export that branch of thier registry for me? Cheers Jake >From: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" >Reply-To: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" >To: "Jake Holmen" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" > >CC: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" >Subject: Re: Help - video out 600E >Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:48:10 +0700 > >Yes, it looks as though you may have run an out-of-region DVD, >which may have permanently disabled your system. Read the >warning notices with the software. > >Jeffrey Race > >On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:29:57 -0000, Jake Holmen wrote: > > >Hey, how goes it. > > > >I have a 600E with a dvd drive. At the moment, I am in Hong Kong, >and > >salivating all over the cheap vcd's and dvd's that are available >here. > >However, I haven't been able to get the video out to work on my >machine. > >I have the little cable that came with the machine and the >audio/video rca > >cable that can plug into the machine's audio and this video cable, >but I > >can't make the software (NEOMAGIC) work. > > > >The settings on the property seem to have TV disabled, the radio >button is > >permanently stuck to LCD and TV is greyed out. > > > >I run w95. Can someone help here? > > > >Cheers. > >J > >PS - anyone one want any cheap copies with only a bit of cantonese > >subtitles?? :) they're everywhere. > >_____________________________________________________________________ >________________ > >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com From cph Mon Nov 27 10:49:20 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA07651 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:49:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02074; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:47:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:44:41 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01450; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01436; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:44:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie.loop.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:44:38 -0500 Received: from tp701.pkhoury.com (p13.hwts17.loop.net [207.211.63.58]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA27352; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 07:44:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011271544.HAA27352@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 07:48:24 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mwave class action List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:08:02 +0000 (GMT), Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis wrote: >On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:02:21 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: > >>I think it's alleging IBM made false claims about modem and sound card simultanious >>functionality. Don't quote me on this please, as I read through the whole lawsuit thingy >>in about 3 minutes. > >that sounds like the problem that i had, which forced me to buy a pcmcia card >which had a modem in it. > >when using the sound and the modem at the same time, i usually had some >crashes or other kind of behavior like the modem or sound would stop working, >and i'd need to reset to get it back. > For me, I was fortunate to never have any crashes while doing both, but I certainly couldn't get sound to work while being connected, even at 14.4. 28.8 was always hard to get connected. And sound seemed okay, until THAT alone would crash the OS after running the machine 1-3 days continious (OS was first OS/2 4, then NT 4 was okay, then Win2K). From cph Mon Nov 27 12:49:38 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA09191 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:49:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19806; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:46:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:43:29 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19179; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:43:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mplspop4.mpls.uswest.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19166; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mplspop4.mpls.uswest.net (204.147.80.14 -> mplspop4.mpls.uswest.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:43:26 -0500 Received: (qmail 87333 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2000 17:43:22 -0000 Received: from ydialup148.mpls.uswest.net (HELO cschumann) (216.160.10.149) by mplspop4.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 27 Nov 2000 17:43:22 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:43:43 -0600 Message-ID: <005a01c05899$96e9a8f0$1000a8c0@cschumann> From: "Chris Schumann" To: "Sashka" , " " Cc: thinkpad600series@egroups.com References: <75780161.20001126152017@tryam.com> Subject: Re: [600e] cpu upgrade MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: When you buy a CPU for $129, you get a CPU. When you buy an IBM part number, you're getting IBM's word that it will work in your machine and their support mechanisms to ensure that will happen. Also, it's not just a PIII CPU. It's a mobile CPU, which I have never seen for sale retail. It's also a CPU board made to fit the machine. You already know that to replace the CPU on that board will require expensive soldering tools. Replacing the BIOS will require lots of time and effort. Nothing's impossible here. It's just a matter of being cost-effective: I'm not going to spend 50 hours doing this upgrade when I can buy a machine with a warranty and save the hassle... although I very well might have when I was in college. For my dollar, I'd sell the 600e and buy a T21. Keep us informed! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sashka" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 2:20 PM Subject: [600e] cpu upgrade > Hello, > > Someone might be interested. I was making research if it possible to > upgrade ANY 600e to higher speed. Yes. It is possible. Ibm has CPU > upgrade module (p/n 10L1333). It is Pentium II 400Mhz cpu module. I > made small research at PowerSourceOnline.com and found, that few > companies have it for sale. I don't think it's good way to get CPU > upgrade module. > > Digilog Electronics Inc. (Tel 773-384-8300 x 309) has 8pcs in stock > for $350 each. I think, if I can get Pentium III 500mhz for $129.00 > at eBay, cpu for $350 is to expensive. > > And for these people, who says, that I can't do anything to my > notebook, what is not written in manual I have question: why IBM > sells this CPU modules if upgrade of CPU will void warranty? > > -- > Sashka > "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." > Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943 > > > From cph Mon Nov 27 13:16:34 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA09424 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:16:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23361; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:14:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:12:19 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23071; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:12:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.cern.ch (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23050; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:12:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.cern.ch (137.138.128.38 -> smtp1.cern.ch) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:12:15 -0500 Received: from rsplus06.cern.ch (rsplus06.cern.ch [137.138.246.90]) by smtp1.cern.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06732 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:12:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (alban@localhost) by rsplus06.cern.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA106194 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:12:12 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: rsplus06.cern.ch: alban owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:12:12 +0100 (MET) From: Alban Kellerbauer X-Sender: alban@rsplus06.cern.ch To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Selectadock I/II/III Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hello, I would like to buy a Selectadock for my 765D. I realize that I need a Selectadock Base in order to be able to use any of these docks. But what are the differences between them? Is it worth paying the extra for the model III? Thanks Alban From cph Mon Nov 27 14:48:03 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA10664 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:48:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09220; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:45:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:39:13 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07811; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmbaaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07743; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmbaaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.153 -> ds-img-7.compuserve.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:38:59 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmbaaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id OAA02109 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:38:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:38:09 -0500 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: How to get 2nd HDD in 7 series Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: thinkpad Message-ID: <200011271438_MC2-BC3A-8E33@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id OAA10665 Hi I have the 2nd HDD adapter for the 755/760 but I have been unable to fathom out how to get it to be recognised under W98 with a suitably formatted HDD... what is the proceedure and do you need to 'add new hardware' drivers under W98?? Cheers Mark From cph Mon Nov 27 16:52:29 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA12526 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:52:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29200; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:50:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:48:12 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28659; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28630; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:48:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (194.75.152.224 -> doggy.lineone.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:48:06 -0500 Received: from hicdbs (host62-6-8-114.btinternet.com [62.6.8.114]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA25200 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 21:47:53 GMT Message-Id: <200011272147.VAA25200@scooby.lineone.net> From: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" To: "thinkpad" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:34:24 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.2010 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Help - video out 600E List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id QAA29200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id QAA12527 On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:41:58 -0000, Jake Holmen wrote: >I thought about your solution, and I could say for sure >that it is the real reason, because I haven't yet run a dvd on my machine >and it's not actually the DVD software (DVD Express) that is causing the >problem, it's the video out port software by Neomagic. It may be a good idea to check IBM's site for the latest video drivers, so you'll make sure you don't use some old buggy drivers. þ H.I.C. & D.B.S. þ OS/2 Warp þ Hellas þ þ ServerConfig þ ConfigEdit þ OS/2 UK UG þ þ Life fast, die young, and leave a handsome corpse. þ From cph Mon Nov 27 19:18:06 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA13856 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:18:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15375; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:15:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:11:49 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14811; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14796; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:11:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:11:43 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-273.gate.net [199.227.131.82]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA111156; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:11:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3A22F837.4C9631A9@gate.net> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:11:36 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan Ballard CC: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Mwave class action References: <200011261649.LAA01938@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: yes, i have been asked to put the info on my web site.. also got a pdf claim form.. i like IBM and since i'm not sure that i WAS ever damaged by mwave modems.. besides $50 off on my next purchase is trivial.. so i think i will not return the claim form.. besides, the documentation required is not worht the effort.. now, if i were to get a new thinkpad, with or without mwave, i would rethink my opinions.. :-) Allan Ballard wrote: > Has anyone else received a large file pertaining to a class action > regarding Mwave, apparently. > > Who brought the action? What is alleged? > > Allan Ballard -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Mon Nov 27 19:17:59 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA13851 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:17:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15469; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:15:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:14:03 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15082; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:14:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15048; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:13:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:13:56 -0500 Received: from gate.net (tspsl2-273.gate.net [199.227.131.82]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA32996; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:13:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3A22F8BF.5E0AC4B5@gate.net> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:13:51 -0500 From: Bill Morrow Reply-To: penzance@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "BlUe hvn@stake" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: References: <000d01c057fc$fbb71a30$512626c3@azot> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: it could be either or both.. most likely battery, charging circuit is second.. "BlUe hvn@stake" wrote: > I recently bought an IBM Thinkpad 560 through Ebay and of course I assumed > that the battery would be very weak, but the battery doesn't seem to want to > charge at all. The indicator light completely fails to light up. Is this a > problem with the battery or the charging circuit? > Thanks > Troy -- --- Happy trails... ** Bill Morrow ** :-) WEB page http://thinkpads.com e-mail: bill@thinkpads.com, penzance@gate.net open forum: http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? sic transit gloria From cph Mon Nov 27 22:28:05 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA15514 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:28:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02608; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:26:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:24:26 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02314; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp21.singnet.com.sg (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02279; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:24:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp21.singnet.com.sg (165.21.101.201 -> smtp21.singnet.com.sg) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:24:21 -0500 Received: from cix.co.uk (ad202.166.107.236.magix.com.sg [202.166.107.236]) by smtp21.singnet.com.sg (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id eAS3SoL39345 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:28:50 +0800 (SGT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:18 +0000 (Singapore Standard Time) From: david@mather.com (David Mather) Subject: Re: Mwave class action To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3A22F837.4C9631A9@gate.net> Reply-To: david@mather.com Message-Id: X-Ameol-Version: 2.52.2000, Windows 98 4.10.1998 ( ) List-Unsubscribe: > yes, i have been asked to put the info on my web site.. > also got a pdf claim form.. > i like IBM and since i'm not sure that i WAS ever damaged by mwave > modems.. > besides $50 off on my next purchase is trivial.. > so i think i will not return the claim form.. > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) I thought the MWave fuss at the time was a bit unreasonable actually. MWave was a bit of a swine to install, but IIRC it worked fine (sound plus modem) at V.32 9600bps. It was only when the upgrades to 14.4kpbs and (much much later) 28.8kbps came along that the device struggled and I remember IBM were quite clear that sound plus high-speed comms would not work simultaneously on the MWave device at these higher speeds. The people concerned must have bee VERY litigious to bring such a case. David Mather From cph Mon Nov 27 23:21:01 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA15899 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:21:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06157; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:17:21 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05947; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:17:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05924; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:17:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (208.147.154.56 -> fly.HiWAAY.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:17:17 -0500 Received: from dwreid (tnt10-216-180-65-148.dialup.hiwaay.net [216.180.65.148]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id eAS4HE725211 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:17:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001f01c058f2$169b99c0$9441b4d8@dwreid> From: "David Reid" To: "ThinkPad-L" References: <001501c057ec$3a2e8700$d741b4d8@dwreid> Subject: Re: TP Video drivers and Microsoft Agent Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:17:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 List-Unsubscribe: Disregard if you've read this and were seeking a resolution. The problem is fixable by lowering hardware acceleration of the video drivers. dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Reid" To: "ThinkPad-L" Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: TP Video drivers and Microsoft Agent > Has anyone here on the list and running Microsoft Agent, experienced any > problems with video display? > > I'm running a 770z with what I assume is the latest vid drivers from IBM. > Upon boot up, any text which should appear in the Agent character balloons > or in the drop down menus, does not appear. To resolve this, a quick flip > flop of screen resolution or color will temporarily fix the problem. > > Has anyone else experienced this? > > Thanks > dave > From cph Tue Nov 28 05:48:42 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id FAA18314 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 05:48:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA04105; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 05:47:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 05:44:04 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA03674; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 05:44:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA03660; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 05:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pantano.theriver.com (205.216.137.2 -> pantano.theriver.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 05:44:02 -0500 Received: from theriver.com (a18.pm3-14.theriver.com [208.164.96.34]) by pantano.theriver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2153D25FB8; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 03:43:59 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A238D08.B37B5C8F@theriver.com> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 03:46:33 -0700 From: Ray Bay Organization: Canyonlands Publishing Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-NSCPCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mwave class action References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I don't know which MWave this offer relates to... but Back when that 28.8 MWave came out in the 760ED, I had 3000 of them to maintain. It was a major nightmare of failure after failure. Out cost to tech support, and people on the road, was amazing. We ended up buying PCMCIA card modems for nearly every employee that had need for a modem in the field. But that was in 1997. All of those computers are long gone. There were just a few of those issues that IBM never made right when they had to have known something was wrong. Others such as the defective (or quickly wearing out keyboard) in the 760 series, the faulty DC card in the 560, and so on were situations where IBM never did right by the customer. I am glad that somebody forced the issue on something. Perhaps this event will help us all on other problems as they unfold. I only wish I still had mine just so I could get some feeling of satisfaction for that modem I truly hated. Ray From cph Tue Nov 28 07:36:20 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id HAA19076 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:36:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10392; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:34:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:33:05 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10100; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:33:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from regulus.blazenet.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10087; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:33:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from regulus.blazenet.net (24.104.0.39 -> regulus.blazenet.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:33:03 -0500 Received: from Sportster98 (ip102.37.blca.blazenet.net [24.104.37.102]) by regulus.blazenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA16878; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:45:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001f01c05937$2b515e00$6601a8c0@Sportster98> From: "Sunshine" To: "Ray Bay" , References: <3A238D08.B37B5C8F@theriver.com> Subject: unsubscribe Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:31:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Bay" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 5:46 AM Subject: Re: Mwave class action > I don't know which MWave this offer relates to... but > Back when that 28.8 MWave came out in the 760ED, I had 3000 of them to > maintain. It was a major nightmare of failure after failure. Out cost > to tech support, and people on the road, was amazing. We ended up > buying PCMCIA card modems for nearly every employee that had need for > a modem in the field. > > But that was in 1997. All of those computers are long gone. There were > just a few of those issues that IBM never made right when they had to > have known something was wrong. Others such as the defective (or > quickly wearing out keyboard) in the 760 series, the faulty DC card in > the 560, and so on were situations where IBM never did right by the > customer. > > I am glad that somebody forced the issue on something. Perhaps this > event will help us all on other problems as they unfold. I only wish I > still had mine just so I could get some feeling of satisfaction for > that modem I truly hated. > > Ray > > From cph Tue Nov 28 09:34:26 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id JAA19993 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:34:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19943; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:33:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:31:43 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19615; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:31:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19602; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:31:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (216.155.0.8 -> trinity.magpage.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:31:42 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (pm3-13-22.phl.magpage.com [216.155.62.175]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id eASEVZW23395; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:31:35 -0500 From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Mark Gardiner" <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Cc: "Thinkpad List" Subject: RE: How to get 2nd HDD in 7 series Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:40:33 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <200011271438_MC2-BC3A-8E33@compuserve.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Mark, Mark Gardiner [mailto:100550.3170@compuserve.com] wrote: > I have the 2nd HDD adapter for the 755/760 but I have been unable to fathom > out how to get it to be recognised under W98 with a suitably formatted > HDD... what is the proceedure and do you need to 'add new hardware' drivers > under W98?? I don't have my 760 in front of me to check this Mark, but if memory serves, there was nothing necessary to install the adapter other than initializing the drive in EZSetup after installing it. Once you initialized and re-booted, the drive was seen by BIOS and therefore by Windows. Regards, James From cph Tue Nov 28 11:28:57 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA20762 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:28:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02818; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:25:24 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02353; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:25:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-r19.mail.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02318; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:25:23 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo-r19.mail.aol.com (152.163.225.73 -> imo-r19.mx.aol.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:25:23 -0500 Received: from Jcwcct@aol.com by imo-r19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id 7.ab.38852a5 (4406); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:25:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:25:03 EST Subject: unsubscribe To: canyonlands@theriver.com (Ray Bay), Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 123 List-Unsubscribe: unsubscribe Jason Aguilar Vicepresident CT Records & Recording Studio http://www.ctrecords.com 309 N. Main Street 3rd Floor Santa Ana, CA 92701 714-543-1559 From cph Tue Nov 28 13:41:09 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA22487 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:41:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20609; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:38:24 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19975; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:38:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19938; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:38:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:38:18 -0500 Received: from [139.142.112.188] (helo=139-142-112-188.dialup.islandnet.com) by mail.islandnet.com with SMTP id 140pdS-0007c0-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:37:46 -0800 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) Newsgroups: list.thinkpad To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: AC Adapter cord Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:45:59 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: Lines: 22 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: On ebay I bought 11J9992, a 16V 2.2 Amp adapter for the range of thinkpads with the barrel-type connector, including, I hope, my 701. I was surprised / disappointed that it came without a cable to plug it into the wall. Instead of the three-prong "kettle plug" which come with larger adaptors such as 85G6695 / 85G6698, it has two round prongs spaced at about .85 cm or maybe 11/64 ", not quite the same as a warming plate plug I have lying around. Of course. Does anybody have these for sale? I noticed something here about a week ago, but erased it because it was not of interest, then. -- cheers Jonathan Berry http://www.islandnet.com/~jberry/ to know more than you want From cph Tue Nov 28 13:43:26 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA22511 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:43:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20601; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:38:24 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19958; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19937; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:38:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:38:18 -0500 Received: from [139.142.112.188] (helo=139-142-112-188.dialup.islandnet.com) by mail.islandnet.com with SMTP id 140pdT-0007c0-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:37:47 -0800 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) Newsgroups: list.thinkpad To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 battery dismantling Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:33:49 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: Lines: 15 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: I recently gave my brother a 701C, and as an extra bonus (at no extra charge!) an extra but dead 701 NiMH battery. He tried to dismantle ("crack") the battery case, but did not succeed. Is there a secret? The cells inside (or at least the one near the connectors) seems to be leaking / corroding. He'd like to get the battery open to see if cell replacement should be attempted. -- cheers Jonathan Berry http://www.islandnet.com/~jberry/ to know more than you want From cph Tue Nov 28 13:55:03 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA22636 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:55:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23408; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:51:35 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23137; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23111; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:51:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:51:29 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (sierpinski.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.252]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA21249; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:51:08 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <007d01c0596c$30a47c40$fc32ab80@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Jonathan Berry" Cc: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" References: Subject: Re: AC Adapter cord Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:51:16 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > I was surprised / disappointed that it came without a cable to > plug it into the wall. Instead of the three-prong "kettle > plug" which come with larger adaptors such as 85G6695 / > 85G6698, it has two round prongs spaced at about .85 cm or > maybe 11/64 ", not quite the same as a warming plate plug I > have lying around. Of course. I don't know about this particular power brick, but the IBM 2-prong power bricks I know all use a standard cord of the sort used in Europe for electric kettles. I believe that Radio Shack sells them. > Does anybody have these for sale? I noticed something here > about a week ago, but erased it because it was not of interest, > then. That was for the newest 3-prong power bricks. - David R. From cph Tue Nov 28 15:37:58 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA23759 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:37:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06885; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:30:55 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06234; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from rad3.1stup.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06221; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:30:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from rad3.1stup.com (209.143.242.34 -> rad3.1stup.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:30:52 -0500 Received: from mail.orion.org (slip129-37-224-178.mo.us.prserv.net [129.37.224.178]) by rad3.1stup.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eASKUY900774; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:30:34 -0800 Message-ID: <3A24091E.3E09004E@mail.orion.org> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:35:58 -0600 From: Shawn Lin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Berry CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: AC Adapter cord References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Jonathan Berry wrote: > > On ebay I bought 11J9992, a 16V 2.2 Amp adapter for the range > of thinkpads with the barrel-type connector, including, I hope, > my 701. > > I was surprised / disappointed that it came without a cable to > plug it into the wall. Instead of the three-prong "kettle > plug" which come with larger adaptors such as 85G6695 / > 85G6698, it has two round prongs spaced at about .85 cm or > maybe 11/64 ", not quite the same as a warming plate plug I > have lying around. Of course. They are $2.49 at Radio Shack. I forget the catalog #, but all Radio Shacks should have them in stock as they are fairly common. Shawn ________________________________________________________ 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com From cph Tue Nov 28 18:01:57 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA26213 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:01:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25563; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:00:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:58:30 -0500 Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24968; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:58:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.cs.utk.edu (128.169.93.168 -> ASTRO.CS.UTK.EDU) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:58:30 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by astro.cs.utk.edu (cf 8.9.3) id RAA16828 for dist-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:58:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix1.free.fr (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09841; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:17:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix1.free.fr (212.27.32.21 -> postfix1.free.fr) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:17:05 -0500 Received: from tp-560 (paris11-nas7-53-5.dial.proxad.net [212.27.53.5]) by postfix1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 10C872833B for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:16:55 +0100 (MET) From: "Sylvestre Meininger" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:08:59 +0100 Reply-To: "Sylvestre Meininger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: External HD backup (again) Message-Id: <20001128171655.10C872833B@postfix1.free.fr> List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id SAA26214 Hi, and thnks again to all who tried to answer my previous question. Now, sorry if this has already been covered... I have a 560z. Is it possible to - Take out the 6Gb HD - Plug into an external box - Plug the box into a PC Card slot (or any other appropriate interface) - Install a 18Gb HD into the notebook (I know it's now possible to go beyond the 560's 6Gb limit) - Boot from the "PC Card" HD (or any other appropriate interface) - Ghost (or DriveCopy) the now external 6Gb HD in order to make the now internal 18Gb HD bootable ? - Say "voil… !" From my rather ignorant point of view, this looks quite logical and feasible. But is it really ? sylvestre From cph Tue Nov 28 20:47:31 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA03127 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:47:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13131; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:45:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:42:39 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12616; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:42:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgoldman.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12603; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:42:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgoldman.com (216.101.170.230 -> adsl-216-101-170-230.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:42:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (dgoldman@localhost) by dgoldman.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA69519; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:49:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:49:53 -0800 (PST) From: David Goldman X-Sender: dgoldman@houdini.dgoldman.com To: Sylvestre Meininger cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) In-Reply-To: <20001128171655.10C872833B@postfix1.free.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id UAA03128 On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > Hi, and thnks again to all who tried to answer my previous question. > > Now, sorry if this has already been covered... > > I have a 560z. Is it possible to > - Take out the 6Gb HD > - Plug into an external box > - Plug the box into a PC Card slot (or any other appropriate interface) > - Install a 18Gb HD into the notebook (I know it's now possible to go beyond the 560's 6Gb limit) > - Boot from the "PC Card" HD (or any other appropriate interface) > - Ghost (or DriveCopy) the now external 6Gb HD in order to make the now internal 18Gb HD bootable ? > - Say "voil… !" > > >From my rather ignorant point of view, this looks quite logical and feasible. > > But is it really ? Why not just... * Install 18GB HD in another PC as a secondary HD * Run Ghost (or similar) via TCP/IP or Parallel Port interface from TP to other PC * Remove 6GB HD * Install 18GB HD and be done with it? -- David Goldman From cph Tue Nov 28 23:27:09 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA12005 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:27:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27487; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:23:40 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27187; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:23:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27169; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from cocopah.gate.net (216.219.246.49 -> cocopah.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:23:38 -0500 Received: from vonbraunw (tspsl2-131.gate.net [199.227.20.194]) by cocopah.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA202296; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:23:24 -0500 Message-ID: <00bf01c059bc$1fbd3070$5200a8c0@vonbraunw> From: "Bill Morrow" To: "Sylvestre Meininger" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" References: <20001128171655.10C872833B@postfix1.free.fr> Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:23:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: yes, it is.. Apricorn EZ-Gig kit.. leave the source drive in place, attach new drive to the ez-gig pcmcia interface, boot from ez-gig floppy, follow directions.. take the now cloned new HDD and swap with the old HDD.. Viola!! done.. :-) Regards, Bill Morrow ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvestre Meininger" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 8:08 AM Subject: External HD backup (again) > Hi, and thnks again to all who tried to answer my previous question. > > Now, sorry if this has already been covered... > > I have a 560z. Is it possible to > - Take out the 6Gb HD > - Plug into an external box > - Plug the box into a PC Card slot (or any other appropriate interface) > - Install a 18Gb HD into the notebook (I know it's now possible to go beyond the 560's 6Gb limit) > - Boot from the "PC Card" HD (or any other appropriate interface) > - Ghost (or DriveCopy) the now external 6Gb HD in order to make the now internal 18Gb HD bootable ? > - Say "voil. !" > > >From my rather ignorant point of view, this looks quite logical and feasible. > > But is it really ? > > sylvestre > > > From cph Wed Nov 29 02:44:39 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA22898 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 02:44:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07645; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 02:42:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 02:41:00 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07423; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 02:40:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07402; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 02:40:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from stevie.loop.com (207.211.60.71 -> stevie.loop.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 02:40:32 -0500 Received: from tp701.pkhoury.com (p42.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.105]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA47131; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:38:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011290738.XAA47131@stevie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Jonathan Berry" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:42:48 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 battery dismantling List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:33:49 -0800, Jonathan Berry wrote: >I recently gave my brother a 701C, and as an extra bonus (at no >extra charge!) an extra but dead 701 NiMH battery. He tried to >dismantle ("crack") the battery case, but did not succeed. Is >there a secret? > >The cells inside (or at least the one near the connectors) >seems to be leaking / corroding. He'd like to get the battery >open to see if cell replacement should be attempted. > I had one open at one time, but forgot if the cells can be replaced or not, as I don't recall them being normal AA NiMH cells. I believe you need to pry it open at the sides with a flathead screwdriver, but it's not easy. Paul From cph Wed Nov 29 08:40:18 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id IAA07505 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:40:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00861; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:39:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:37:45 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00548; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from 24.69.152.109.on.wave.home.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00531; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:37:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from 24.69.152.109.on.wave.home.com (24.69.152.109 -> 24.69.152.109.on.wave.home.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:37:43 -0500 Received: from bored.lexxdog.com ([10.1.1.27]) by 24.69.152.109.on.wave.home.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16949 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:46:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kate@bored.lexxdog.com) Message-ID: <3A25065A.3BEFDAF9@bored.lexxdog.com> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:36:26 -0500 From: Kate Ross X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad List Subject: wanted 701 module Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I'm looking for a 32MB module for a 701CS if anyone has one for sale or knows of a cheap source. Thank you. Kate From cph Wed Nov 29 13:39:58 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA10665 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:39:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06008; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:34:32 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05438; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:34:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix3.free.fr (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05424; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:34:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from postfix3.free.fr (212.27.32.22 -> postfix3.free.fr) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:34:26 -0500 Received: from tp-560 (paris11-nas7-52-231.dial.proxad.net [212.27.52.231]) by postfix3.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 0355586B82 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:34:20 +0100 (CET) From: "Sylvestre Meininger" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:33:13 +0100 Reply-To: "Sylvestre Meininger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) Message-Id: <20001129183420.0355586B82@postfix3.free.fr> List-Unsubscribe: David Goldman wrote: >Why not just... > >* Install 18GB HD in another PC as a secondary HD >* Run Ghost (or similar) via TCP/IP or Parallel Port interface from > TP to other PC >* Remove 6GB HD >* Install 18GB HD >David Goldman > 'cos I don't have another PC... Plus, I think running a Ghost-like over PP or TCP/IP would take... eons ? Bill Morrow wrote : >Apricorn EZ-Gig kit.. >leave the source drive in place, attach new drive to the ez-gig pcmcia >interface, boot from ez-gig floppy, follow directions.. >take the now cloned new HDD and swap with the old HDD.. >Viola!! >done.. :-) I get it. Much simpler than what I had thought of. Once again, Thanks Bill ! From cph Wed Nov 29 17:15:11 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA13321 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:15:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02950; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:50 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02230; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02201; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:47 -0500 Received: from vonbraunw (tspsl1-193.gate.net [207.36.212.193]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA42654; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:33 -0500 Message-ID: <006501c05a50$ed24f680$5200a8c0@vonbraunw> From: "Bill Morrow" To: "Sylvestre Meininger" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" References: <20001129183420.0355586B82@postfix3.free.fr> Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: and the cream on this idea is i lend or rent the thing to my customers.. AND, speaking of customers, i have a memory special on IBM 256meg parts for all newer thinkpads.. and even some other brand "X" models.. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvestre Meininger" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > David Goldman wrote: > > >Why not just... > > > >* Install 18GB HD in another PC as a secondary HD > >* Run Ghost (or similar) via TCP/IP or Parallel Port interface from > > TP to other PC > >* Remove 6GB HD > >* Install 18GB HD > > >David Goldman > > > > 'cos I don't have another PC... > Plus, I think running a Ghost-like over PP or TCP/IP would take... eons ? > > Bill Morrow wrote : > > >Apricorn EZ-Gig kit.. > >leave the source drive in place, attach new drive to the ez-gig pcmcia > >interface, boot from ez-gig floppy, follow directions.. > >take the now cloned new HDD and swap with the old HDD.. > >Viola!! > >done.. :-) > > I get it. Much simpler than what I had thought of. > > Once again, Thanks Bill ! > > > From cph Wed Nov 29 18:27:05 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA14024 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:27:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11239; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:25:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:22:46 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10849; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:22:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot23.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10835; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:22:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot23.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.43 -> pilot23.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:22:43 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (cherryholmes.pls.msu.edu [35.8.65.41]) by pilot23.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eATNMdD45206 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:22:39 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001129182109.028825d0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:22:51 -0500 To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) In-Reply-To: <006501c05a50$ed24f680$5200a8c0@vonbraunw> References: <20001129183420.0355586B82@postfix3.free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Bill do you have any knowledge if any of those 256M parts would run in a i1480? I ask since you found out that you could put 256M parts in your 770, and I'd find it just too wonderful if I could go beyond 256M (in two 128M parts) on my unit. Thanks for any ideas you may have... --STeve Andre' At 05:08 PM 11/29/00 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >and the cream on this idea is i lend or rent the thing to my customers.. >AND, speaking of customers, i have a memory special on IBM 256meg parts for >all newer thinkpads.. and even some other brand "X" models.. >:-) >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sylvestre Meininger" >To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" >Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:33 PM >Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > > > > David Goldman wrote: > > > > >Why not just... > > > > > >* Install 18GB HD in another PC as a secondary HD > > >* Run Ghost (or similar) via TCP/IP or Parallel Port interface from > > > TP to other PC > > >* Remove 6GB HD > > >* Install 18GB HD > > > > >David Goldman > > > > > > > 'cos I don't have another PC... > > Plus, I think running a Ghost-like over PP or TCP/IP would take... eons ? > > > > Bill Morrow wrote : > > > > >Apricorn EZ-Gig kit.. > > >leave the source drive in place, attach new drive to the ez-gig pcmcia > > >interface, boot from ez-gig floppy, follow directions.. > > >take the now cloned new HDD and swap with the old HDD.. > > >Viola!! > > >done.. :-) > > > > I get it. Much simpler than what I had thought of. > > > > Once again, Thanks Bill ! > > > > > > From cph Wed Nov 29 21:05:32 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA15585 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:05:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26582; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:00:40 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26128; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailman.lanl.gov (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26114; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailman.lanl.gov (128.165.5.1 -> mailman.lanl.gov) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:00:34 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by mailman.lanl.gov (8.10.1/8.10.1/(cic-5, 6/12/00)) id eAU20Xd29663; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:00:33 -0700 Received: from mailproxy.lanl.gov ([128.165.254.25]) by mailman.lanl.gov (8.10.1/8.10.1/(cic-5, 6/12/00)) with ESMTP id eATMF8f24414; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 15:15:08 -0700 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mailproxy.lanl.gov (8.10.1/8.10.1/(cic-5, 6/12/00)) with ESMTP id eATMF7f28139; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 15:15:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02958; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:14:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:50 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02230; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02201; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:47 -0500 Received: from vonbraunw (tspsl1-193.gate.net [207.36.212.193]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA42654; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:33 -0500 Message-ID: <006501c05a50$ed24f680$5200a8c0@vonbraunw> From: "Bill Morrow" To: "Sylvestre Meininger" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" References: <20001129183420.0355586B82@postfix3.free.fr> Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: and the cream on this idea is i lend or rent the thing to my customers.. AND, speaking of customers, i have a memory special on IBM 256meg parts for all newer thinkpads.. and even some other brand "X" models.. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvestre Meininger" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > David Goldman wrote: > > >Why not just... > > > >* Install 18GB HD in another PC as a secondary HD > >* Run Ghost (or similar) via TCP/IP or Parallel Port interface from > > TP to other PC > >* Remove 6GB HD > >* Install 18GB HD > > >David Goldman > > > > 'cos I don't have another PC... > Plus, I think running a Ghost-like over PP or TCP/IP would take... eons ? > > Bill Morrow wrote : > > >Apricorn EZ-Gig kit.. > >leave the source drive in place, attach new drive to the ez-gig pcmcia > >interface, boot from ez-gig floppy, follow directions.. > >take the now cloned new HDD and swap with the old HDD.. > >Viola!! > >done.. :-) > > I get it. Much simpler than what I had thought of. > > Once again, Thanks Bill ! > > > From cph Wed Nov 29 21:16:35 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA15667 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:16:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27865; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:14:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:12:29 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27598; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:12:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27585; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:12:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:12:24 -0500 Received: from vonbraunw (tspsl1-131.gate.net [207.36.212.131]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA92238; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:12:05 -0500 Message-ID: <001d01c05a72$f23009e0$5200a8c0@vonbraunw> From: "Bill Morrow" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" , "STeve Andre'" References: <20001129183420.0355586B82@postfix3.free.fr> <5.0.0.25.0.20001129182109.028825d0@pilot.msu.edu> Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:12:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: Steve.. i'm not sure.. i have two i series here.. i can try one.. well, ok, on the 1472 after adding one 256meg part it yeilds 320megs.. i'll try it with two.. :-) with two 256meg parts, the yeild is 512meg.. so, obviously, the 32meg on the system board is mapped out of the system.. seems to run a bit faster on other than HDD bound operations.. ok.. in the 1480 i just put two 256meg parts in it.. removed a 64meg part to make room.. since, i think, this machine only started with 64megs, there is probably NOT memory on the system board.. booted up fine, no problems.. sadly, it only shows 256megs as total physical memory in PC Doctor.. and in system properties.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "STeve Andre'" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 6:22 PM Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > Bill do you have any knowledge if any of those 256M parts would run in a > i1480? I ask since you found out that you could put 256M parts in your > 770, and I'd find it just too wonderful if I could go beyond 256M (in two 128M > parts) on my unit. > > Thanks for any ideas you may have... > > --STeve Andre' > > At 05:08 PM 11/29/00 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: > >and the cream on this idea is i lend or rent the thing to my customers.. > >AND, speaking of customers, i have a memory special on IBM 256meg parts for > >all newer thinkpads.. and even some other brand "X" models.. > >:-) > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Sylvestre Meininger" > >To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" > >Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:33 PM > >Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > > > > > > > David Goldman wrote: > > > > > > >Why not just... > > > > > > > >* Install 18GB HD in another PC as a secondary HD > > > >* Run Ghost (or similar) via TCP/IP or Parallel Port interface from > > > > TP to other PC > > > >* Remove 6GB HD > > > >* Install 18GB HD > > > > > > >David Goldman > > > > > > > > > > 'cos I don't have another PC... > > > Plus, I think running a Ghost-like over PP or TCP/IP would take... eons ? > > > > > > Bill Morrow wrote : > > > > > > >Apricorn EZ-Gig kit.. > > > >leave the source drive in place, attach new drive to the ez-gig pcmcia > > > >interface, boot from ez-gig floppy, follow directions.. > > > >take the now cloned new HDD and swap with the old HDD.. > > > >Viola!! > > > >done.. :-) > > > > > > I get it. Much simpler than what I had thought of. > > > > > > Once again, Thanks Bill ! > > > > > > > > > > > From cph Wed Nov 29 21:21:24 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA15705 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:21:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28771; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:19:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:18:06 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28490; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:18:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28458; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:18:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:18:04 -0500 Received: from vonbraunw (tspsl1-131.gate.net [207.36.212.131]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA35490; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:17:58 -0500 Message-ID: <002401c05a73$c47d2a90$5200a8c0@vonbraunw> From: "Bill Morrow" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" , "STeve Andre'" References: <20001129183420.0355586B82@postfix3.free.fr> <5.0.0.25.0.20001129182109.028825d0@pilot.msu.edu> Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:18:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: strange is it not..?? the newer i series does NOT support 512meg and the older i series DOES..!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "STeve Andre'" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 6:22 PM Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > Bill do you have any knowledge if any of those 256M parts would run in a > i1480? I ask since you found out that you could put 256M parts in your > 770, and I'd find it just too wonderful if I could go beyond 256M (in two 128M > parts) on my unit. > > Thanks for any ideas you may have... > > --STeve Andre' > > At 05:08 PM 11/29/00 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: > >and the cream on this idea is i lend or rent the thing to my customers.. > >AND, speaking of customers, i have a memory special on IBM 256meg parts for > >all newer thinkpads.. and even some other brand "X" models.. > >:-) > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Sylvestre Meininger" > >To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" > >Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:33 PM > >Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > > > > > > > David Goldman wrote: > > > > > > >Why not just... > > > > > > > >* Install 18GB HD in another PC as a secondary HD > > > >* Run Ghost (or similar) via TCP/IP or Parallel Port interface from > > > > TP to other PC > > > >* Remove 6GB HD > > > >* Install 18GB HD > > > > > > >David Goldman > > > > > > > > > > 'cos I don't have another PC... > > > Plus, I think running a Ghost-like over PP or TCP/IP would take... eons ? > > > > > > Bill Morrow wrote : > > > > > > >Apricorn EZ-Gig kit.. > > > >leave the source drive in place, attach new drive to the ez-gig pcmcia > > > >interface, boot from ez-gig floppy, follow directions.. > > > >take the now cloned new HDD and swap with the old HDD.. > > > >Viola!! > > > >done.. :-) > > > > > > I get it. Much simpler than what I had thought of. > > > > > > Once again, Thanks Bill ! > > > > > > > > > > > From cph Wed Nov 29 21:31:04 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA15784 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:31:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00081; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:27:25 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29899; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:27:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29881; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:27:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:27:23 -0500 Received: from vonbraunw (tspsl1-131.gate.net [207.36.212.131]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA191956; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:27:07 -0500 Message-ID: <002f01c05a75$0be2a490$5200a8c0@vonbraunw> From: "Bill Morrow" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" , "STeve Andre'" References: <20001129183420.0355586B82@postfix3.free.fr> <5.0.0.25.0.20001129182109.028825d0@pilot.msu.edu> Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:27:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: HOWEVER..!!! :-) one 64meg and one 256meg yeilds 320meg.. now i'll see what 128meg and 256meg yeilds.. AND, it yeilds 384megs.. SO, i guess the answer is up to 384meg and not beyond.. this is on my 1480.. 2621-480 is the model-type number.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "STeve Andre'" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 6:22 PM Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > Bill do you have any knowledge if any of those 256M parts would run in a > i1480? I ask since you found out that you could put 256M parts in your > 770, and I'd find it just too wonderful if I could go beyond 256M (in two 128M > parts) on my unit. > > Thanks for any ideas you may have... > > --STeve Andre' > > At 05:08 PM 11/29/00 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: > >and the cream on this idea is i lend or rent the thing to my customers.. > >AND, speaking of customers, i have a memory special on IBM 256meg parts for > >all newer thinkpads.. and even some other brand "X" models.. > >:-) > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Sylvestre Meininger" > >To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" > >Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:33 PM > >Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > > > > > > > David Goldman wrote: > > > > > > >Why not just... > > > > > > > >* Install 18GB HD in another PC as a secondary HD > > > >* Run Ghost (or similar) via TCP/IP or Parallel Port interface from > > > > TP to other PC > > > >* Remove 6GB HD > > > >* Install 18GB HD > > > > > > >David Goldman > > > > > > > > > > 'cos I don't have another PC... > > > Plus, I think running a Ghost-like over PP or TCP/IP would take... eons ? > > > > > > Bill Morrow wrote : > > > > > > >Apricorn EZ-Gig kit.. > > > >leave the source drive in place, attach new drive to the ez-gig pcmcia > > > >interface, boot from ez-gig floppy, follow directions.. > > > >take the now cloned new HDD and swap with the old HDD.. > > > >Viola!! > > > >done.. :-) > > > > > > I get it. Much simpler than what I had thought of. > > > > > > Once again, Thanks Bill ! > > > > > > > > > > > From cph Wed Nov 29 21:43:36 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA15873 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:43:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01694; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:39:26 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01461; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:39:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailman.lanl.gov (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01445; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:39:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailman.lanl.gov (128.165.5.1 -> mailman.lanl.gov) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:39:23 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by mailman.lanl.gov (8.10.1/8.10.1/(cic-5, 6/12/00)) id eAU2dMR14778; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:39:22 -0700 Received: from mailproxy.lanl.gov ([128.165.254.25]) by mailman.lanl.gov (8.10.1/8.10.1/(cic-5, 6/12/00)) with ESMTP id eATMF8f24414; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 15:15:08 -0700 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mailproxy.lanl.gov (8.10.1/8.10.1/(cic-5, 6/12/00)) with ESMTP id eATMF7f28139; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 15:15:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02958; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:14:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:50 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02230; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02201; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:47 -0500 Received: from vonbraunw (tspsl1-193.gate.net [207.36.212.193]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA42654; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:33 -0500 Message-ID: <006501c05a50$ed24f680$5200a8c0@vonbraunw> From: "Bill Morrow" To: "Sylvestre Meininger" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" References: <20001129183420.0355586B82@postfix3.free.fr> Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:08:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: and the cream on this idea is i lend or rent the thing to my customers.. AND, speaking of customers, i have a memory special on IBM 256meg parts for all newer thinkpads.. and even some other brand "X" models.. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvestre Meininger" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > David Goldman wrote: > > >Why not just... > > > >* Install 18GB HD in another PC as a secondary HD > >* Run Ghost (or similar) via TCP/IP or Parallel Port interface from > > TP to other PC > >* Remove 6GB HD > >* Install 18GB HD > > >David Goldman > > > > 'cos I don't have another PC... > Plus, I think running a Ghost-like over PP or TCP/IP would take... eons ? > > Bill Morrow wrote : > > >Apricorn EZ-Gig kit.. > >leave the source drive in place, attach new drive to the ez-gig pcmcia > >interface, boot from ez-gig floppy, follow directions.. > >take the now cloned new HDD and swap with the old HDD.. > >Viola!! > >done.. :-) > > I get it. Much simpler than what I had thought of. > > Once again, Thanks Bill ! > > > From cph Wed Nov 29 22:26:15 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA16291 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:26:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06909; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:24:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:22:26 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06640; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailman.lanl.gov (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06627; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:22:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailman.lanl.gov (128.165.5.1 -> mailman.lanl.gov) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:22:24 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by mailman.lanl.gov (8.10.1/8.10.1/(cic-5, 6/12/00)) id eAU3MNQ03280; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:22:23 -0700 Received: from mailproxy.lanl.gov ([128.165.254.25]) by mailman.lanl.gov (8.10.1/8.10.1/(cic-5, 6/12/00)) with ESMTP id eATNR4f01984; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:27:04 -0700 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mailproxy.lanl.gov (8.10.1/8.10.1/(cic-5, 6/12/00)) with ESMTP id eATNR3f09274; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:27:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11251; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:25:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:22:46 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10849; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:22:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot23.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10835; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:22:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot23.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.43 -> pilot23.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:22:43 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (cherryholmes.pls.msu.edu [35.8.65.41]) by pilot23.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eATNMdD45206 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:22:39 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001129182109.028825d0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:22:51 -0500 To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) In-Reply-To: <006501c05a50$ed24f680$5200a8c0@vonbraunw> References: <20001129183420.0355586B82@postfix3.free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: Bill do you have any knowledge if any of those 256M parts would run in a i1480? I ask since you found out that you could put 256M parts in your 770, and I'd find it just too wonderful if I could go beyond 256M (in two 128M parts) on my unit. Thanks for any ideas you may have... --STeve Andre' At 05:08 PM 11/29/00 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >and the cream on this idea is i lend or rent the thing to my customers.. >AND, speaking of customers, i have a memory special on IBM 256meg parts for >all newer thinkpads.. and even some other brand "X" models.. >:-) >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sylvestre Meininger" >To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" >Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:33 PM >Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > > > > David Goldman wrote: > > > > >Why not just... > > > > > >* Install 18GB HD in another PC as a secondary HD > > >* Run Ghost (or similar) via TCP/IP or Parallel Port interface from > > > TP to other PC > > >* Remove 6GB HD > > >* Install 18GB HD > > > > >David Goldman > > > > > > > 'cos I don't have another PC... > > Plus, I think running a Ghost-like over PP or TCP/IP would take... eons ? > > > > Bill Morrow wrote : > > > > >Apricorn EZ-Gig kit.. > > >leave the source drive in place, attach new drive to the ez-gig pcmcia > > >interface, boot from ez-gig floppy, follow directions.. > > >take the now cloned new HDD and swap with the old HDD.. > > >Viola!! > > >done.. :-) > > > > I get it. Much simpler than what I had thought of. > > > > Once again, Thanks Bill ! > > > > > > From cph Wed Nov 29 22:35:03 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA16370 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:35:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08262; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:31:13 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08011; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:31:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pierre.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07990; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:31:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pierre.mit.edu (18.77.0.109 -> PIERRE.MIT.EDU) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:31:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (sarin@localhost) by pierre.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA20843 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:31:09 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: pierre.mit.edu: sarin owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:31:09 -0500 (EST) From: Pradeep Sarin To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP760E] SDRAM support on 760E ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Hi I am newbie to this list, so please pardon the ignorance. I just got a Thinkpad 760E (9546-U9B). With 48MB RAM (8+8+16+16), UltraBay CDROM and FDD. Putting Linux on it was a breeze! Used up ~300MB of the 2GB disk for the system software, which leaves me plenty of space to fool around with. It's a great little computer for class-use. I was wondering about the upgrade options for the memory on this laptop. Does the chipset support SDRAM ? The IBM support site suggests only EDO-DRAM - but that's much more expensive than SDRAM. Also, has anyone succeeded in cheating with 128MB EDO SODIMM's in slot 2 instead of the 64MB max as stated on the IBM web-site ? How about 128MB SDRAM SODIMM's ? Also, since you know I am interested in a memory upgrade, does anyone have >32MB chips for sale ? Thanks in advance for any tips/advice - cheers - pradeep From cph Wed Nov 29 23:26:48 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA16778 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:26:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13765; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:25:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:22:51 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13416; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:22:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13389; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:22:46 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.240 -> mta6.snfc21.pbi.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:22:46 -0500 Received: from attglobal.net ([63.197.81.28]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G4T005CML79QD@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:16:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:16:18 -0800 Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Wed, 29 Nov 2000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;"@attglobal.net Reply-to: medarb@attglobal.net Message-id: <3A25D492.2874EC3F@attglobal.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary_(ID_7dNVu3RGUZ4Cb1PkWO3AWg)" X-Accept-Language: en References: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_7dNVu3RGUZ4Cb1PkWO3AWg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id XAA13765 I think you can get a boombox cord from Radio Shack to cover this. John K= agel owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu wrote: > Submissions for the thinkpad list should be sent to thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > (When replying, please edit your Subject line so that it doesn't say: > "Re: thinkpad digest for...") > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > Today's topics: > > 701 battery dismantling (Jonathan Berry) > AC Adapter cord (Jonathan Berry) > Re: AC Adapter cord (David Ross) > Re: AC Adapter cord (Shawn Lin) > External HD backup (again) (Sylvestre Meininger) > Re: External HD backup (again) (David Goldman) > Re: External HD backup (again) (Bill Morrow) > Re: 701 battery dismantling (Paul Khoury) > wanted 701 module (Kate Ross) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > > Subject: 701 battery dismantling > Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:33:49 -0800 > From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > I recently gave my brother a 701C, and as an extra bonus (at no > extra charge!) an extra but dead 701 NiMH battery. He tried to > dismantle ("crack") the battery case, but did not succeed. Is > there a secret? > > The cells inside (or at least the one near the connectors) > seems to be leaking / corroding. He'd like to get the battery > open to see if cell replacement should be attempted. > > -- > cheers > Jonathan Berry > http://www.islandnet.com/~jberry/ to know more than you want > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > > Subject: AC Adapter cord > Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:45:59 -0800 > From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > On ebay I bought 11J9992, a 16V 2.2 Amp adapter for the range > of thinkpads with the barrel-type connector, including, I hope, > my 701. > > I was surprised / disappointed that it came without a cable to > plug it into the wall. Instead of the three-prong "kettle > plug" which come with larger adaptors such as 85G6695 / > 85G6698, it has two round prongs spaced at about .85 cm or > maybe 11/64 ", not quite the same as a warming plate plug I > have lying around. Of course. > > Does anybody have these for sale? I noticed something here > about a week ago, but erased it because it was not of interest, > then. > > -- > cheers > Jonathan Berry > http://www.islandnet.com/~jberry/ to know more than you want > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > > Subject: Re: AC Adapter cord > Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:51:16 -1000 > From: "David Ross" > To: "Jonathan Berry" > CC: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" > > > I was surprised / disappointed that it came without a cable to > > plug it into the wall. Instead of the three-prong "kettle > > plug" which come with larger adaptors such as 85G6695 / > > 85G6698, it has two round prongs spaced at about .85 cm or > > maybe 11/64 ", not quite the same as a warming plate plug I > > have lying around. Of course. > > I don't know about this particular power brick, but the IBM 2-prong pow= er > bricks I know all use > a standard cord of the sort used in Europe for electric kettles. I bel= ieve > that Radio Shack sells them. > > > Does anybody have these for sale? I noticed something here > > about a week ago, but erased it because it was not of interest, > > then. > > That was for the newest 3-prong power bricks. > > - David R. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > > Subject: Re: AC Adapter cord > Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:35:58 -0600 > From: Shawn Lin > To: Jonathan Berry > CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Jonathan Berry wrote: > > > > On ebay I bought 11J9992, a 16V 2.2 Amp adapter for the range > > of thinkpads with the barrel-type connector, including, I hope, > > my 701. > > > > I was surprised / disappointed that it came without a cable to > > plug it into the wall. Instead of the three-prong "kettle > > plug" which come with larger adaptors such as 85G6695 / > > 85G6698, it has two round prongs spaced at about .85 cm or > > maybe 11/64 ", not quite the same as a warming plate plug I > > have lying around. Of course. > > They are $2.49 at Radio Shack. I forget the catalog #, but all Radio > Shacks should have them in stock as they are fairly common. > > Shawn > > ________________________________________________________ > 1stUp.com - Free the Web > Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > > Subject: External HD backup (again) > Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:08:59 +0100 > From: "Sylvestre Meininger" > To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" > > Hi, and thnks again to all who tried to answer my previous question. > > Now, sorry if this has already been covered... > > I have a 560z. Is it possible to > - Take out the 6Gb HD > - Plug into an external box > - Plug the box into a PC Card slot (or any other appropriate inter= face) > - Install a 18Gb HD into the notebook (I know it's now possible to go b= eyond the 560's 6Gb limit) > - Boot from the "PC Card" HD (or any other appropriate interface) > - Ghost (or DriveCopy) the now external 6Gb HD in order to make the now= internal 18Gb HD bootable ? > - Say "voil=85 !" > > >From my rather ignorant point of view, this looks quite logical and fe= asible. > > But is it really ? > > sylvestre > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > > Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:49:53 -0800 > From: David Goldman > To: Sylvestre Meininger > CC: ThinkPad Mailing List > > On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Sylvestre Meininger wrote: > > Hi, and thnks again to all who tried to answer my previous question. > > > > Now, sorry if this has already been covered... > > > > I have a 560z. Is it possible to > > - Take out the 6Gb HD > > - Plug into an external box > > - Plug the box into a PC Card slot (or any other appropriate inter= face) > > - Install a 18Gb HD into the notebook (I know it's now possible to go= beyond the 560's 6Gb limit) > > - Boot from the "PC Card" HD (or any other appropriate interface) > > - Ghost (or DriveCopy) the now external 6Gb HD in order to make the n= ow internal 18Gb HD bootable ? > > - Say "voil=85 !" > > > > >From my rather ignorant point of view, this looks quite logical and = feasible. > > > > But is it really ? > > Why not just... > > * Install 18GB HD in another PC as a secondary HD > * Run Ghost (or similar) via TCP/IP or Parallel Port interface from > TP to other PC > * Remove 6GB HD > * Install 18GB HD > > and be done with it? > > -- > David Goldman > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > > Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:23:24 -0500 > From: "Bill Morrow" > To: "Sylvestre Meininger" , > "ThinkPad Mailing List" > > yes, it is.. > Apricorn EZ-Gig kit.. > leave the source drive in place, attach new drive to the ez-gig pcmcia > interface, boot from ez-gig floppy, follow directions.. > take the now cloned new HDD and swap with the old HDD.. > Viola!! > done.. :-) > Regards, > Bill Morrow > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sylvestre Meininger" > To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 8:08 AM > Subject: External HD backup (again) > > > Hi, and thnks again to all who tried to answer my previous question. > > > > Now, sorry if this has already been covered... > > > > I have a 560z. Is it possible to > > - Take out the 6Gb HD > > - Plug into an external box > > - Plug the box into a PC Card slot (or any other appropriate interfac= e) > > - Install a 18Gb HD into the notebook (I know it's now possible to go > beyond the 560's 6Gb limit) > > - Boot from the "PC Card" HD (or any other appropriate interface) > > - Ghost (or DriveCopy) the now external 6Gb HD in order to make the n= ow > internal 18Gb HD bootable ? > > - Say "voil. !" > > > > >From my rather ignorant point of view, this looks quite logical and > feasible. > > > > But is it really ? > > > > sylvestre > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > > Subject: Re: 701 battery dismantling > Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:42:48 -0800 > From: "Paul Khoury" > To: "Jonathan Berry" > CC: "ThinkPad List" > > On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:33:49 -0800, Jonathan Berry wrote: > > >I recently gave my brother a 701C, and as an extra bonus (at no > >extra charge!) an extra but dead 701 NiMH battery. He tried to > >dismantle ("crack") the battery case, but did not succeed. Is > >there a secret? > > > >The cells inside (or at least the one near the connectors) > >seems to be leaking / corroding. He'd like to get the battery > >open to see if cell replacement should be attempted. > > > I had one open at one time, but forgot if the cells can be replaced or = not, > as I don't recall them being normal AA NiMH cells. > > I believe you need to pry it open at the sides with a flathead screwdri= ver, > but it's not easy. > > Paul > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > > Subject: wanted 701 module > Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:36:26 -0500 > From: Kate Ross > To: ThinkPad List > > I'm looking for a 32MB module for a 701CS if anyone has one for sale or > knows of a cheap source. Thank you. > > Kate --Boundary_(ID_7dNVu3RGUZ4Cb1PkWO3AWg) Content-type: text/x-vcard; name=medarb.vcf; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Card for Ĩ Content-disposition: attachment; filename=medarb.vcf Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT begin:vcard n:Kagel;John tel;fax:650 325-4394 tel;work:650 325-4393 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;P.O. Box 50787;Palo Alto;CA;94303;USA version:2.1 email;internet:medarb@attglobal.net fn:John Kagel end:vcard --Boundary_(ID_7dNVu3RGUZ4Cb1PkWO3AWg)-- From cph Wed Nov 29 23:41:48 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA16902 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:41:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15473; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:38:18 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15133; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:38:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15118; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:38:10 -0500 Received: from vonbraunw (tspsl1-100.gate.net [207.36.212.100]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA164032; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:37:49 -0500 Message-ID: <004101c05a87$4dda2280$5200a8c0@vonbraunw> From: "Bill Morrow" To: "Pradeep Sarin" , References: Subject: Re: [TP760E] SDRAM support on 760E ? Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:37:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: EDO memory only.. or so "THEY" say.. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pradeep Sarin" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 10:31 PM Subject: [TP760E] SDRAM support on 760E ? > > Hi > > I am newbie to this list, so please pardon the ignorance. I just got a > Thinkpad 760E (9546-U9B). With 48MB RAM (8+8+16+16), UltraBay CDROM and > FDD. Putting Linux on it was a breeze! Used up ~300MB of the 2GB disk for > the system software, which leaves me plenty of space to fool around with. > It's a great little computer for class-use. > > I was wondering about the upgrade options for the memory on this laptop. > Does the chipset support SDRAM ? The IBM support site suggests only > EDO-DRAM - but that's much more expensive than SDRAM. Also, has anyone > succeeded in cheating with 128MB EDO SODIMM's in slot 2 instead of the > 64MB max as stated on the IBM web-site ? How about 128MB SDRAM SODIMM's ? > > Also, since you know I am interested in a memory upgrade, does anyone have > >32MB chips for sale ? > > Thanks in advance for any tips/advice - > > cheers - > > pradeep > > > From cph Wed Nov 29 23:45:54 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA16922 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:45:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15748; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:41:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:39:44 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15320; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:39:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15258; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:39:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from shuswap.gate.net (216.219.246.7 -> shuswap.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:39:36 -0500 Received: from vonbraunw (tspsl1-100.gate.net [207.36.212.100]) by shuswap.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA119032; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:39:25 -0500 Message-ID: <004801c05a87$873a17b0$5200a8c0@vonbraunw> From: "Bill Morrow" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" , "STeve Andre'" References: <20001129183420.0355586B82@postfix3.free.fr> <5.0.0.25.0.20001129182109.028825d0@pilot.msu.edu> Subject: Re: External HD backup (again), now 256meg memory parts in an "i" series.. Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:39:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: STeve.. yes, it seems it will take one 256meg and one 128meg, but not two 256meg parts.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "STeve Andre'" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 6:22 PM Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > Bill do you have any knowledge if any of those 256M parts would run in a > i1480? I ask since you found out that you could put 256M parts in your > 770, and I'd find it just too wonderful if I could go beyond 256M (in two 128M > parts) on my unit. > > Thanks for any ideas you may have... > > --STeve Andre' > > At 05:08 PM 11/29/00 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: > >and the cream on this idea is i lend or rent the thing to my customers.. > >AND, speaking of customers, i have a memory special on IBM 256meg parts for > >all newer thinkpads.. and even some other brand "X" models.. > >:-) > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Sylvestre Meininger" > >To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" > >Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:33 PM > >Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > > > > > > > David Goldman wrote: > > > > > > >Why not just... > > > > > > > >* Install 18GB HD in another PC as a secondary HD > > > >* Run Ghost (or similar) via TCP/IP or Parallel Port interface from > > > > TP to other PC > > > >* Remove 6GB HD > > > >* Install 18GB HD > > > > > > >David Goldman > > > > > > > > > > 'cos I don't have another PC... > > > Plus, I think running a Ghost-like over PP or TCP/IP would take... eons ? > > > > > > Bill Morrow wrote : > > > > > > >Apricorn EZ-Gig kit.. > > > >leave the source drive in place, attach new drive to the ez-gig pcmcia > > > >interface, boot from ez-gig floppy, follow directions.. > > > >take the now cloned new HDD and swap with the old HDD.. > > > >Viola!! > > > >done.. :-) > > > > > > I get it. Much simpler than what I had thought of. > > > > > > Once again, Thanks Bill ! > > > > > > > > > > > > From cph Thu Nov 30 00:19:29 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA17398 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:19:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19616; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:16:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:14:20 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19426; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot22.cl.msu.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19413; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:14:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilot22.cl.msu.edu (35.9.5.42 -> pilot22.cl.msu.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:14:18 -0500 Received: from andrel.msu.edu (pm455-37.dialip.mich.net [198.110.21.47]) by pilot22.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eAU5EFq51722 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:14:15 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001130001323.02aaac00@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: andres@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:14:24 -0500 To: From: "STeve Andre'" Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) In-Reply-To: <002401c05a73$c47d2a90$5200a8c0@vonbraunw> References: <20001129183420.0355586B82@postfix3.free.fr> <5.0.0.25.0.20001129182109.028825d0@pilot.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: This is really wierd. I'll only be too happy if you know it includes a i1480? I have this fear of buying a part, only to have it not work out, and then wondering what to do with it... --STeve Andre' At 09:18 PM 11/29/00 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: >strange is it not..?? >the newer i series does NOT support 512meg and the older i series DOES..!! > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "STeve Andre'" >To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" >Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 6:22 PM >Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > > > > Bill do you have any knowledge if any of those 256M parts would run in a > > i1480? I ask since you found out that you could put 256M parts in your > > 770, and I'd find it just too wonderful if I could go beyond 256M (in two >128M > > parts) on my unit. > > > > Thanks for any ideas you may have... > > > > --STeve Andre' > > > > At 05:08 PM 11/29/00 -0500, Bill Morrow wrote: > > >and the cream on this idea is i lend or rent the thing to my customers.. > > >AND, speaking of customers, i have a memory special on IBM 256meg parts >for > > >all newer thinkpads.. and even some other brand "X" models.. > > >:-) > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Sylvestre Meininger" > > >To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:33 PM > > >Subject: Re: External HD backup (again) > > > > > > > > > > David Goldman wrote: > > > > > > > > >Why not just... > > > > > > > > > >* Install 18GB HD in another PC as a secondary HD > > > > >* Run Ghost (or similar) via TCP/IP or Parallel Port interface from > > > > > TP to other PC > > > > >* Remove 6GB HD > > > > >* Install 18GB HD > > > > > > > > >David Goldman > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'cos I don't have another PC... > > > > Plus, I think running a Ghost-like over PP or TCP/IP would take... >eons ? > > > > > > > > Bill Morrow wrote : > > > > > > > > >Apricorn EZ-Gig kit.. > > > > >leave the source drive in place, attach new drive to the ez-gig >pcmcia > > > > >interface, boot from ez-gig floppy, follow directions.. > > > > >take the now cloned new HDD and swap with the old HDD.. > > > > >Viola!! > > > > >done.. :-) > > > > > > > > I get it. Much simpler than what I had thought of. > > > > > > > > Once again, Thanks Bill ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From cph Thu Nov 30 03:16:49 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id DAA18258 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:16:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28911; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:11:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:09:26 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28660; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:09:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-0.ziplink.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28647; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-0.ziplink.net (206.15.168.49 -> relay-0.ziplink.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:09:25 -0500 Received: from dallas (quincy-ip-7-248.dynamic.ziplink.net [209.206.27.248]) by relay-0.ziplink.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id eAU89MX18032 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:09:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike Capone" To: "thinkpads2" Subject: RE: Mwave class action Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:11:05 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c05aa5$1667d0e0$1b00a8c0@dallas> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: Hmm... I'm wondeirng why the hell I got a notice in the postal mail for the MWAVE class action suit, and I own a TP770ED, which isn't covered by this suit, unless I missed something... I wonder if they mailed these to all thinkpad customers? (or at least the ones with mwave modems in them?) -Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: David Mather [mailto:david@mather.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 6:18 AM > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Mwave class action > > > > yes, i have been asked to put the info on my web site.. > > also got a pdf claim form.. > > i like IBM and since i'm not sure that i WAS ever damaged by mwave > > modems.. > > besides $50 off on my next purchase is trivial.. > > so i think i will not return the claim form.. > > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-) > > I thought the MWave fuss at the time was a bit unreasonable actually. > MWave was a bit of a swine to install, but IIRC it worked fine > (sound plus > modem) at V.32 9600bps. It was only when the upgrades to 14.4kpbs and > (much much later) 28.8kbps came along that the device struggled and I > remember IBM were quite clear that sound plus high-speed comms would not > work simultaneously on the MWave device at these higher speeds. The > people concerned must have bee VERY litigious to bring such a case. > > > David Mather > > From cph Thu Nov 30 05:03:28 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id FAA18864 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 05:03:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07575; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:52:42 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07411; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:52:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07398; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:52:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from prserv.net (32.97.166.34 -> out4.prserv.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:52:38 -0500 Received: from slip202-135-85-206.pe.nz.ibm.net ([202.135.85.206]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2000113009522920402qes76e>; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:52:33 +0000 From: dmhills@attglobal.net (Don Hills) To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mwave class action Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:23:10 +1200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3A238D08.B37B5C8F@theriver.com> Lines: 12 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.38Beta [OS/2] List-Unsubscribe: Ray Bay wrote: >Back when that 28.8 MWave came out in the 760ED, I had 3000 of them to >maintain. It was a major nightmare of failure after failure. That was true under Windows. They were rock solid running under OS/2. I spent almost a year working at a remote site, dialled into the office for 7 or 8 hours per day. No problems. I have a long list of modems I've tried and discarded over the years, the only ones I've been completely happy with have been the MWave and the USR Sportster. -- Don Hills (dmhills at attglobaldotnet) Wellington, New Zealand From cph Thu Nov 30 12:11:58 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA22821 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:11:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17601; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:10:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:08:09 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17237; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:08:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from rad3.1stup.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17223; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:08:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from rad3.1stup.com (209.143.242.34 -> rad3.1stup.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:08:07 -0500 Received: from mail.orion.org (slip-32-100-176-68.mo.us.prserv.net [32.100.176.68]) by rad3.1stup.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eAUH80923996; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:08:01 -0800 Message-ID: <3A25CCFE.F059BD5@mail.orion.org> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:43:58 -0600 From: Shawn Lin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pradeep Sarin CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP760E] SDRAM support on 760E ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Pradeep Sarin wrote: > > I was wondering about the upgrade options for the memory on this laptop. > Does the chipset support SDRAM ? The IBM support site suggests only > EDO-DRAM - but that's much more expensive than SDRAM. Also, has anyone > succeeded in cheating with 128MB EDO SODIMM's in slot 2 instead of the > 64MB max as stated on the IBM web-site ? How about 128MB SDRAM SODIMM's ? Nope, you can't use SDRAM. I already tried it. Sorry! Shawn ________________________________________________________ 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com From cph Thu Nov 30 20:02:45 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA28354 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:02:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13922; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:53:20 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13254; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from io.cox-internet.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13220; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from io.cox-internet.com (208.180.118.41 -> io-cox.cox-internet.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:53:17 -0500 Received: from kramer ([208.180.17.239]) by io.cox-internet.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 1dc0b39e31881b14e43eebad2dae5270) with SMTP id <20001201005236.RBUD3972.io@kramer>; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:52:36 -0600 From: "Paul Remlinger" To: Cc: "Pradeep Sarin" Subject: RE: [TP760E] SDRAM support on 760E ? Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:53:12 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: Currently, I have a 64MB EDO SODIMM on ebay (Item #513651181). It was pulled from my 385XD. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Pradeep Sarin [mailto:sarin@mit.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 9:31 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP760E] SDRAM support on 760E ? Hi I am newbie to this list, so please pardon the ignorance. I just got a Thinkpad 760E (9546-U9B). With 48MB RAM (8+8+16+16), UltraBay CDROM and FDD. Putting Linux on it was a breeze! Used up ~300MB of the 2GB disk for the system software, which leaves me plenty of space to fool around with. It's a great little computer for class-use. I was wondering about the upgrade options for the memory on this laptop. Does the chipset support SDRAM ? The IBM support site suggests only EDO-DRAM - but that's much more expensive than SDRAM. Also, has anyone succeeded in cheating with 128MB EDO SODIMM's in slot 2 instead of the 64MB max as stated on the IBM web-site ? How about 128MB SDRAM SODIMM's ? Also, since you know I am interested in a memory upgrade, does anyone have >32MB chips for sale ? Thanks in advance for any tips/advice - cheers - pradeep From cph Thu Nov 30 20:32:55 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA28651 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:32:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16513; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:31:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:29:35 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16312; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:29:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16299; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:29:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (216.59.47.71 -> d83b2f47.dsl.flashcom.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:29:33 -0500 Received: from sashka (sashka [192.168.0.1]) by ya.dhs.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eB11TRk00164; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:29:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:29:20 -0500 From: Sashka X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Reply-To: Sashka X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1311718040.20001130202920@tryam.com> To: Pradeep Sarin CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP760E] SDRAM support on 760E ? In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, NO SDRAM. As far as I remember, this is Pentium CPU (pentium 1). It will work only with EDO memory. I just had one of 760series at work and I looked specially for you:) Wednesday, November 29, 2000, 10:31:09 PM, you wrote: PS> Hi PS> I am newbie to this list, so please pardon the ignorance. I just got a PS> Thinkpad 760E (9546-U9B). With 48MB RAM (8+8+16+16), UltraBay CDROM and PS> FDD. Putting Linux on it was a breeze! Used up ~300MB of the 2GB disk for PS> the system software, which leaves me plenty of space to fool around with. PS> It's a great little computer for class-use. PS> I was wondering about the upgrade options for the memory on this laptop. PS> Does the chipset support SDRAM ? The IBM support site suggests only PS> EDO-DRAM - but that's much more expensive than SDRAM. Also, has anyone PS> succeeded in cheating with 128MB EDO SODIMM's in slot 2 instead of the PS> 64MB max as stated on the IBM web-site ? How about 128MB SDRAM SODIMM's ? PS> Also, since you know I am interested in a memory upgrade, does anyone have >>32MB chips for sale ? PS> Thanks in advance for any tips/advice - PS> cheers - PS> pradeep -- Sashka e-mail : list@tryam.com "But what...is it good for?" - Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip From cph Thu Nov 30 20:54:31 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA28852 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:54:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19018; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:52:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:50:44 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18723; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:50:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18699; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:50:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from shasta.gate.net (216.219.246.6 -> shasta.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:50:29 -0500 Received: from vonbraunw (tspsl1-261.gate.net [199.227.173.7]) by shasta.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA299938; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:50:17 -0500 Message-ID: <006701c05b39$0ed0c3c0$5200a8c0@vonbraunw> From: "Bill Morrow" To: "Paul Remlinger" , Cc: "Pradeep Sarin" References: Subject: Re: [TP760E] SDRAM support on 760E ? Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:50:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: that won't work in his 760E series.. it MIGHT work in a 765 (right memory slot only) or 560 series.. i would need to cross check to see and dinner is waiting.. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Remlinger" To: Cc: "Pradeep Sarin" Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 7:53 PM Subject: RE: [TP760E] SDRAM support on 760E ? > Currently, I have a 64MB EDO SODIMM on ebay (Item #513651181). It was > pulled from my 385XD. > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pradeep Sarin [mailto:sarin@mit.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 9:31 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: [TP760E] SDRAM support on 760E ? > > > > Hi > > I am newbie to this list, so please pardon the ignorance. I just got a > Thinkpad 760E (9546-U9B). With 48MB RAM (8+8+16+16), UltraBay CDROM and > FDD. Putting Linux on it was a breeze! Used up ~300MB of the 2GB disk for > the system software, which leaves me plenty of space to fool around with. > It's a great little computer for class-use. > > I was wondering about the upgrade options for the memory on this laptop. > Does the chipset support SDRAM ? The IBM support site suggests only > EDO-DRAM - but that's much more expensive than SDRAM. Also, has anyone > succeeded in cheating with 128MB EDO SODIMM's in slot 2 instead of the > 64MB max as stated on the IBM web-site ? How about 128MB SDRAM SODIMM's ? > > Also, since you know I am interested in a memory upgrade, does anyone have > >32MB chips for sale ? > > Thanks in advance for any tips/advice - > > cheers - > > pradeep > > > From cph Thu Nov 30 23:03:10 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA29754 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:03:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29395; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:02:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:00:27 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28914; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:00:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28868; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:00:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie.loop.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:00:23 -0500 Received: from tp701.pkhoury.com (p15.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.78]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA44511; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:56:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012010356.TAA44511@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Ray Bay" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:04:50 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mwave class action List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 03:46:33 -0700, Ray Bay wrote: > >But that was in 1997. All of those computers are long gone. There were >just a few of those issues that IBM never made right when they had to >have known something was wrong. Others such as the defective (or >quickly wearing out keyboard) in the 760 series, the faulty DC card in >the 560, and so on were situations where IBM never did right by the >customer. And the keyboard on the 701. I've gone through I think 4 keyboards on this 701 (which will be 5 years old in March, and still working), and 3 on my 760ED. > >I am glad that somebody forced the issue on something. Perhaps this >event will help us all on other problems as they unfold. I only wish I >still had mine just so I could get some feeling of satisfaction for >that modem I truly hated. > The sound card function was nice when it worked, but the modem was a piece of crap. I think it's unreasonable that IBM would bring so much hype about it, yet you couldn't use the 28.8 modem (or 33.6 in some cases), and the soundcard simultaniously. I never saw that in marketing when I got my machine. So I'm happy to take advantage of this suit. My 2 cents also, Paul From cph Thu Nov 30 23:03:14 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA29759 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:03:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29404; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:02:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:00:21 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28880; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:00:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28863; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:00:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie.loop.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:00:13 -0500 Received: from tp701.pkhoury.com (p15.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.78]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA44504; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:56:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012010356.TAA44504@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Mike Capone" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:00:14 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Mwave class action List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:11:05 -0500, Mike Capone wrote: > >Hmm... I'm wondeirng why the hell I got a notice >in the postal mail for the MWAVE class action >suit, and I own a TP770ED, which isn't covered >by this suit, unless I missed something... I wonder >if they mailed these to all thinkpad customers? (or >at least the ones with mwave modems in them?) > I think some series of the 770 might of had mwave in them, and I thought the 770ED had an mwave variant (I've seen one from my days at Earthlink on a tech call a few times). But if you can take advantage of it, go for it. Paul From cph Thu Nov 30 23:03:17 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA29764 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:03:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29408; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:02:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:00:40 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28991; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:00:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28953; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:00:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie.loop.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:00:32 -0500 Received: from tp701.pkhoury.com (p15.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.78]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA44525; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:57:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012010357.TAA44525@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "scosgt@att.net" Cc: "jbrush@www.aros.net" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:09:41 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 760ED display List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 22:48:26 +0000, scosgt@att.net wrote: >It sounds like you may have updates with the wrong bios. >There is one for the U3A, SVGA screen, and another for >the U9A, XGA screen No, the BIOS update will not let you install an incorrect update on a machine. Like preceding emails, and my original reply, you need to set screen expansion to ON. Paul From cph Thu Nov 30 23:04:00 2000 Received: from cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA29769 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:04:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29400; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:02:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:01:01 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29055; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:01:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29028; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:00:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (207.211.60.70 -> ritchie.loop.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:00:50 -0500 Received: from tp701.pkhoury.com (p15.hwts22.loop.net [207.211.65.78]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA44521; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:57:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012010357.TAA44521@ritchie.loop.com> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "kestas@fedingas.lt" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:08:06 -0800 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 755ce battery info List-Unsubscribe: On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:05:22 +0200, Kestas wrote: >Hi, >Does anybody knows more info about 755ce battery pinouts >When I connect other type of battery to TP it works fine but did not >detect battery when I want upgrade system.Some days ago I got TP from >EBAY but without battery You need to use the ThinkPad 750 battery with the internal microprocessor on the 755 series. I encountered the same problem on my 755C when I got it, which meant I had to take my 750 out of service (and replaced it with a 360 so I could use the battery). You might be able to get the battery to charge when the machine is powered off, but it will not charge when the machine is on, and it won't show battery status. Paul