RE: Would you take the A21p with Intel or 3Com Combo ?

From cph Mon Jan 1 10:39:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA17924 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:39:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12451; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:36:31 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12143; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:36:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12130; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:36:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (24.147.1.143 -> chmls05.mediaone.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:36:29 -0500 Received: from 666.YING (h00036d121a78.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.149.197]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA12775 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:36:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000a01c07408$5e13f320$0200a8c0@YING> From: "Ying Zhang" To: Subject: RE: Windows question for 760XL Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:34:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C073DE.73B43DE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C073DE.73B43DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Happy New Year! I had problem with IE on my 760ED before. I just installed the newer = version of IE5.5 and the problem is gone. It took me about 5 minutes to = download IE using my cable modem, but It might take one hour to download = IE5.5 using a standard modem.=20 The old IE would not even be able to access the download site for the = IE5.5. I get around with a setup file downloaded from my desktop and = transfer with a floppy. ie5setup.exe file is only 498KB in size.=20 Good luck. Ying Zhang ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C073DE.73B43DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Happy New Year!

I had problem with IE on my 760ED = before. I=20 just installed the newer version of IE5.5 and the problem is gone. It = took me=20 about 5 minutes to download IE using my cable modem, but It might take = one hour=20 to download IE5.5 using a standard modem.

The old IE would not even be able to = access the=20 download site for the IE5.5. I get around with a setup file downloaded = from my=20 desktop and transfer with a floppy. ie5setup.exe file is only 498KB = in=20 size.

Good luck.

Ying Zhang

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C073DE.73B43DE0-- From cph Mon Jan 1 13:24:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA18900 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:24:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20670; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:22:13 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20529; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:22:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20514; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:22:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (207.69.200.57 -> mclean.mail.mindspring.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:22:12 -0500 Received: from BallardA.ATL (user-37ka97l.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.36.245]) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA03550; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:22:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101011822.NAA03550@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Ying Zhang" Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 13:20:41 -0500 Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4820800=_=_=_" Subject: RE: Windows question for 760XL List-Unsubscribe: --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4820800=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm still usine IE4.0 on my 760XL. It there *anything* to gain in an upgrade to the current edition? Allan Ballard --Original Message Text--- From: Ying Zhang Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:34:42 -0500 Happy New Year! I had problem with IE on my 760ED before. I just installed the newer version of IE5.5 and the problem is gone. It took me about 5 minutes to download IE using my cable modem, but It might take one hour to download IE5.5 using a standard modem. The old IE would not even be able to access the download site for the IE5.5. I get around with a setup file downloaded from my desktop and transfer with a floppy. ie5setup.exe file is only 498KB in size. Good luck. Ying Zhang --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4820800=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm still usine IE4.0 on my 760XL.

It there *anything* to gain in an upgrade
to the current edition?

Allan Ballard

--Original Message Text---
From: Ying Zhang
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:34:42 -0500

Happy New Year!

I had problem with IE on my 760ED before. I just installed the newer version of IE5.5 and the problem is gone. It took me about 5 minutes to download IE using my cable modem, but It might take one hour to download IE5.5 using a standard modem.

The old IE would not even be able to access the download site for the IE5.5. I get around with a setup file downloaded from my desktop and transfer with a floppy. ie5setup.exe file is only 498KB in size.

Good luck.

Ying Zhang

--_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4820800=_=_=_-- From cph Mon Jan 1 13:53:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA19020 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:53:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22767; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:53:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:51:51 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22442; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:51:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22428; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:51:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (209.228.33.217 -> c007-h011.c007.snv.cp.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:51:41 -0500 Received: (cpmta 6831 invoked from network); 1 Jan 2001 10:51:39 -0800 Received: from pantano.theriver.com (205.216.137.2) by smtp.test.theriver.com (209.228.33.217) with SMTP; 1 Jan 2001 10:51:39 -0800 X-Sent: 1 Jan 2001 18:51:39 GMT Received: from theriver.com (a42.pm3-15.theriver.com [208.164.96.106]) by pantano.theriver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E3225C8D; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 11:51:28 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A50D130.EDC581E3@theriver.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 11:49:20 -0700 From: Ray Bay X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD475 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allan Ballard Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , Ying Zhang Subject: Re: Windows question for 760XL References: <200101011822.NAA03550@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Not much... Many many people still prefer 4.0 There remain quite large news groups and usenets supporting 4.0. I think it was/is the best of the bunch. 5.5 has a lot going for it... but creates more problems as well. Ray From cph Mon Jan 1 13:59:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA19042 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:59:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23610; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:59:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:57:53 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23426; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:57:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23413; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:57:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.46 -> mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:57:52 -0500 Received: from 600e300 ([24.185.88.209]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with ESMTP id <20010101185751.BHUD25760.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@600e300>; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:57:51 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c07424$852f7b20$0200a8c0@Domain> From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "Ray Bay" , "Allan Ballard" Cc: , "Ying Zhang" References: <200101011822.NAA03550@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> <3A50D130.EDC581E3@theriver.com> Subject: Re: Windows question for 760XL Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:56:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 List-Unsubscribe: I started getting a lot of Java script errors on 4.0, especially on ebay., so I had to upgrade to 5.5 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Bay" To: "Allan Ballard" Cc: ; "Ying Zhang" Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: Re: Windows question for 760XL > Not much... Many many people still prefer 4.0 > > There remain quite large news groups and usenets supporting 4.0. > > I think it was/is the best of the bunch. > > > 5.5 has a lot going for it... but creates more problems as well. > > > > Ray From cph Mon Jan 1 14:30:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA19167 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 14:30:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26093; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 14:30:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 14:28:49 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25956; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 14:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25940; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 14:28:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (64.4.30.97 -> oe40.pav1.hotmail.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 14:28:47 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 11:28:40 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [216.160.86.219] Reply-To: "Peter Machule" From: "Peter Machule" To: "thinkpad" References: <200101011822.NAA03550@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> <3A50D130.EDC581E3@theriver.com> <000901c07424$852f7b20$0200a8c0@Domain> Subject: Re: Windows question for 760XL re IE 5.x Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 11:25:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jan 2001 19:28:40.0922 (UTC) FILETIME=[0BF153A0:01C07429] List-Unsubscribe: YES , many script errors on ebay with the older versions . ..peter.. ----- Original Message ----- > I started getting a lot of Java script errors on 4.0, especially on ebay., > so I had to upgrade to 5.5 > ----- Original Message ----- From cph Mon Jan 1 16:30:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA19841 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 16:30:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03121; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 16:29:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 16:27:39 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02898; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 16:27:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx01.together.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02874; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 16:27:31 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mx01.together.net (209.91.0.61 -> mx01.together.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 16:27:32 -0500 Received: from mail.together.net (dial-14-157-apx-01.btvt.together.net [209.91.45.157]) by mx01.together.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA19887; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 16:27:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101012127.QAA19887@mx01.together.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 14:54:39 -0500 To: , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <20001230173036.33D6F48778@mail1.panix.com> Subject: Re: Formatting PCMCIA drives X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.75a b75 List-Unsubscribe: In <20001230173036.33D6F48778@mail1.panix.com>, on 12/30/00 at 01:21 PM, said: >How can I format PCMCIA drives to something other than FAT? My specific >problem is trying to get a 520 MB Calluna drive to accept an HPFS format >under OS/2 (W4fp14) but I've run into the same problem under Linux (and Win98 >doesn't seem to understand anything other than a FAT16 format for removable >drives). >Any tips or pointers to a net resource are much appreciated. In OS2 you need to put an /RF switch on the config.sys basedrv statement to mark it as a non-removable drive. -- But, its been so long since I had to do this that I can't remember which statement controls the drive. >Happy new year to all, >Michael Cole >.... Squeaking (http://www.squeak.org) -- ----------------------------------------------------------- letoured@together.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From cph Mon Jan 1 17:58:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA20246 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 17:58:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07531; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 17:58:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 17:55:20 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07206; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 17:55:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07193; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 17:55:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (207.69.200.226 -> blount.mail.mindspring.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 17:55:18 -0500 Received: from BallardA.ATL (user-37ka31m.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.12.54]) by blount.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA27563; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 17:55:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101012255.RAA27563@blount.mail.mindspring.net> From: "Allan Ballard" To: "Ray Bay" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "Ying Zhang" Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 17:53:40 -0500 Reply-To: "Allan Ballard" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Windows question for 760XL List-Unsubscribe: Thanks. I think I'll leave well enough alone. Allan Ballard On Mon, 01 Jan 2001 11:49:20 -0700, Ray Bay wrote: >Not much... Many many people still prefer 4.0 > >There remain quite large news groups and usenets supporting 4.0. > >I think it was/is the best of the bunch. > > >5.5 has a lot going for it... but creates more problems as well. > > > >Ray From cph Mon Jan 1 23:10:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA21681 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:10:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24891; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:08:38 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24622; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:08:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24609; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:08:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (24.0.95.82 -> femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:08:36 -0500 Received: from cx726649 ([24.5.1.74]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010102040817.CYHI17656.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx726649> for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 20:08:17 -0800 Message-ID: <002e01c07471$bec54660$4a010518@ocnsd1.sdca.home.com> From: "Greg F" To: References: <000d01c07111$28b4e3a0$4a010518@ocnsd1.sdca.home.com> Subject: Re: Is my mainboard dead or just the Bios Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 20:09:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 List-Unsubscribe: Many of you may recall my post about a dead LCD from a few days ago. Thanks for the many good responses, I have fixed my laptop. On the Keyboard control card (FRU 69H7913) there is a normally open Micro switch labled "SW1" This switch is the sensor for the lid, open (switch open) or closed (switch shorted or closed). One of the replies I received off list noted that sometimes the switch will get jammed making the unit think the lid is down. ***To fix my unit I removed the keyboard disconecting the ribbon cables in the process, and removed the keyboard bezel. I then pulled apart the switch and found that the spring inside of it had turned sideways, effectively leaving the switch in the closed position. Using a small pair of tweezers I removed the spring, put it back in vertically and reassembled the switch. I then installed the keyboard and keyboard bezel opposite of removal. Booted the unit up and BINGO! The screen works normally again. Net $$ cost to me $000.00 and about 6 hours of reading the IBM page and posting to every thinkpad forum I could find. Thanks for the help Greg *** do not attempt this unless you are more than halfway mechanically inclined and are familiar with ESD safe guards. If you do not know what ESD stands for I suggest you do not undertake this project. Always wear a grounding strap and avoid working on a carpeted floor. For best results perform all work at an ESD ground station with a quality ground mat. With surface mount components found in most thinkpads it is possible to do severe damage to your unit by a static discharge. From cph Mon Jan 1 23:51:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA21846 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:51:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27505; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:51:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:49:46 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27245; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from marine.sonic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27230; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from marine.sonic.net (208.201.224.37 -> marine.sonic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:49:44 -0500 Received: (qmail 7077 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2001 04:49:43 -0000 Received: from ultra.sonic.net (208.201.224.22) by marine.sonic.net with SMTP; 2 Jan 2001 04:49:43 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (e181.nas22.sonic.net [209.204.142.181]) by ultra.sonic.net (8.11.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id f024kFP31735 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 20:46:15 -0800 X-envelope-info: Message-ID: <001f01c07476$f5687340$b58eccd1@oemcomputer> From: "wwotr" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: Cant install Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 20:46:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 List-Unsubscribe: I'm trying to install some newer XING software on my Windows 98. I had just "uninstalled" the old version. Now it wont let me install the NEW version. I keep getting a Windows error #107 (or #108) saying something about not being able to find an install file or something like that. HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Roger (who is PC illiterate) wwotr Visit my Websites dedicated to: David Lee Roth/My PT Cruiser www.sonic.net/~wwotr/enterpage.htm From cph Mon Jan 1 23:57:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA21874 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:57:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28538; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:55:54 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28309; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:55:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from marine.sonic.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28293; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:55:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from marine.sonic.net (208.201.224.37 -> marine.sonic.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:55:52 -0500 Received: (qmail 7360 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2001 04:55:51 -0000 Received: from ultra.sonic.net (208.201.224.22) by marine.sonic.net with SMTP; 2 Jan 2001 04:55:51 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (d231.nas21.sonic.net [209.204.136.231]) by ultra.sonic.net (8.11.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id f024qJP00292 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 20:52:20 -0800 X-envelope-info: Message-ID: <002d01c07477$cef3fa80$b58eccd1@oemcomputer> From: "wwotr" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: I.E 5.5 SUCKS! Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 20:50:36 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 List-Unsubscribe: Ever since I upgraded to this version, I have been booted off-line about 20 times in 6 hours! My pages are loading EXTREMELY SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean when I go to double click on a link, it takes 45 seconds to get there IF I can get there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Should have stuck with 4.0 Roger wwotr Visit my Websites dedicated to: David Lee Roth/My PT Cruiser www.sonic.net/~wwotr/enterpage.htm From cph Tue Jan 2 00:30:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA22282 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:30:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00977; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:30:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:28:28 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00757; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:28:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailcore1.oh.voyager.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00744; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:28:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailcore1.oh.voyager.net (207.0.229.19 -> mailcore1.oh.voyager.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:28:27 -0500 Received: from daveb (d315.as0.clmb.oh.voyager.net [216.127.3.187]) by mailcore1.oh.voyager.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA42333; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:28:25 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Dave W. Beauvais" To: "wwotr" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: RE: I.E 5.5 SUCKS! Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:28:24 -0500 Keywords: Miscellaneous Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002d01c07477$cef3fa80$b58eccd1@oemcomputer> List-Unsubscribe: As a troubleshooting step, clear your history, cache, and forms/password cache. IE4.x and IE5.x have slightly different ways of storing this information, so starting fresh for IE5.5 might help. If you have TweakUI, you can clear everything from the Paranoia tab by checking the items you wish to clear and clicking the "Clear Selected Items Now" button. I've found that doing this speeds up IE5.x quite a bit when loading pages. Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: wwotr [mailto:wwotr@sonic.net] > Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 11:51 PM > To: ThinkPad Mailing List > Subject: I.E 5.5 SUCKS! > > > Ever since I upgraded to this version, I have been > booted off-line about 20 times in 6 hours! My pages > are loading EXTREMELY SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > I mean when I go to double click on a link, it takes > 45 seconds to get there IF I can get > there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Should have stuck with 4.0 > [snip] From cph Tue Jan 2 02:57:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA22700 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 02:57:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06938; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 02:57:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 02:55:19 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06743; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 02:55:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06730; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 02:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.islandnet.com (199.175.106.4 -> mail.islandnet.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 02:55:15 -0500 Received: from [139.142.112.201] (helo=139-142-112-201.dialup.islandnet.com) by mail.islandnet.com with SMTP id 14DMHi-000Eji-00 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 01 Jan 2001 23:55:07 -0800 From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows question for 760XL Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 23:33:12 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn Message-ID: <4QYU64mip1dE092yn@islandnet.com> References: <200101011822.NAA03550@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> <3A50D130.EDC581E3@theriver.com> In-Reply-To: <3A50D130.EDC581E3@theriver.com> Lines: 40 X-Newsreader: VSoup v1.2.9.34Beta [95/NT] List-Unsubscribe: >Not much... Many many people still prefer 4.0 >There remain quite large news groups and usenets supporting 4.0. >I think it was/is the best of the bunch. >5.5 has a lot going for it... but creates more problems as well. >Ray > Just a second, there is at least one more option. A few months ago, the mounting Java errors and expiring security certificates (the latter can be partly dealt with) caused me to seek a replacement for Netscape 3.04 ("the last stable version") for my lowly 701. At the time there was much disenchantment about the instability of IE 5.5, so I went with the consensus, which was IE 5.01 SP 1. I have been quite surprised and pleased by 5.01's performance. It actually loads pages faster than 3.04, though if there were a fixed version of Netscape, I would prefer it because of Netscape's more sensible design in general, and better handling of bookmarks in particular. Long ago I did try IE 4, but removed it immediately. Awful on this computer. I didn't have to remove 3.04, and still use it from time to time when Java is not a factor. When images are not a factor (remember when the 'net was 99.9% text?) and the file is already local, I might use viewhtml http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ksolway/ which loads far faster than either Netscape or IE. And the text is always in the colours and fonts that *you* have chosen. Ah, reading, that simple pleasure ... -- cheers Jonathan Berry http://www.islandnet.com/~jberry/ to know more than you want From cph Tue Jan 2 07:33:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id HAA24319 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 07:33:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26485; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 07:32:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 07:31:08 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26056; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 07:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from box3.pyrrhusoft.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA26041; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 07:31:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from box3.pyrrhusoft.com (204.181.58.183 -> p204.181.58.183.syspac.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 07:31:06 -0500 Received: (from jones@localhost) by box3.pyrrhusoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id FAA19510; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 05:29:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 05:29:24 -0700 Message-Id: <200101021229.FAA19510@box3.pyrrhusoft.com> From: David Jones To: jberry@islandnet.com CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows question for 760XL List-Unsubscribe: Being somewhat heretical, I only use a GUI browser when I am absolutely forced to. This means HTML pages requiring Java script. I use Lynx which is a text only browser, is blindingly fast, and has no ads! Yes, "reading, that simple pleasure..." David Jones From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 23:33:12 -0800 Organization: Pawn is Pawn ... I didn't have to remove 3.04, and still use it from time to time when Java is not a factor. When images are not a factor (remember when the 'net was 99.9% text?) and the file is already local, I might use viewhtml http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ksolway/ which loads far faster than either Netscape or IE. And the text is always in the colours and fonts that *you* have chosen. Ah, reading, that simple pleasure ... -- cheers Jonathan Berry http://www.islandnet.com/~jberry/ to know more than you want From cph Tue Jan 2 10:50:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA25536 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:50:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08568; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:49:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:47:49 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08129; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08115; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (194.29.192.20 -> netsonic.fi) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:47:43 -0500 Received: from TP560X (letku107.adsl.netsonic.fi [194.29.195.107]) by nalle.netsonic.fi (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f02FlPQ09749 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 17:47:25 +0200 Message-Id: <200101021547.f02FlPQ09749@nalle.netsonic.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 17:47:20 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <200012300113.eBU1DFd15317@athserv.otenet.gr> Subject: Re: PCMCIA storage under OS/2 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.2 List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 at 03:13 AM you, "Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis" , said: >If i remember correctly, you need all the special drivers loaded in the >config, like the PCM2ATA.ADD. Read the readme.txt for more info. The >installation program adds them by default. The following URL was of much help when configuring my PCMCIA-to-SmartMedia adapter: http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/thinkpad/uguide/600/c79ehm24.htm >If you want, i can send you a copy of PC Card Director 5.0 which also has >Cardbus support and all the latest versions of the storage drivers. Unfortunately, I was never able to get PC Card Director 5.0 to work properly on my system. It seems the syntax it uses is different from the previous version. Never mind, the older version serves me quite well. -Dominique From cph Tue Jan 2 12:38:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA26644 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:38:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17895; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:38:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:36:31 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17635; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:36:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from pluto.cc.emory.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17622; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:36:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from pluto.cc.emory.edu (170.140.29.37 -> Pluto.cc.emory.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:36:27 -0500 Received: from RICKBRIGHT (anx2-34.dialup.emory.edu [170.140.252.138]) by pluto.cc.emory.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f02HaOG05210; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:36:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Rick A. Bright" To: "wwotr" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: RE: I.E 5.5 SUCKS! Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:35:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <002d01c07477$cef3fa80$b58eccd1@oemcomputer> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: IE 5.5 has many known bugs that make it almost impossible to work with in a variety of settings. I.E. 5.0 is fine with none of the similar issues. You can easily revert back to 5.0 or 4.0 by using your uninstall programs button in your control panel; it will automatically uninstall 5.5 and revert you back to your previous version. I would suggest sticking with 5.0 until 5.6 comes out and skip 5.5 altogether. -----Original Message----- From: wwotr [mailto:wwotr@sonic.net] Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 11:51 PM To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: I.E 5.5 SUCKS! Ever since I upgraded to this version, I have been booted off-line about 20 times in 6 hours! My pages are loading EXTREMELY SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean when I go to double click on a link, it takes 45 seconds to get there IF I can get there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Should have stuck with 4.0 Roger wwotr Visit my Websites dedicated to: David Lee Roth/My PT Cruiser www.sonic.net/~wwotr/enterpage.htm From cph Tue Jan 2 12:57:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA26809 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:57:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21074; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:57:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:55:28 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19440; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:55:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailsf2.innoventry.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19384; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailsf2.innoventry.com (216.101.175.243 -> mailsf2.innovisions.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:55:17 -0500 Received: by MAILSF2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:50:06 -0800 Message-ID: <21197C35EDDFD311954C00508B9B111FDE5AC9@MAILSF2> From: Mitchell Yee To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Refurb T20 - any opinions? Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:50:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: This seems like a good deal. Before I make the leap, does anyone have any comments about refurb T20s? I wish it had W2K preinstalled, but I'll live. http://www2.warehouse.com/product.asp?dept%5Fid=1738&cat=clr&pf%5Fid=RCP1621 2&blind=no Mitchell From cph Tue Jan 2 14:06:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA27256 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:06:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26464; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:06:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:03:53 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26056; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:03:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26041; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:03:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93 -> uhura.concentric.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:03:50 -0500 Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id OAA24429; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:03:31 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from rjwt20 (w067.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.67]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id OAA04443; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:03:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20010102104132.0251efc0@pop3.iceka.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka.com/pop3.iceka.com@pop3.iceka.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 10:43:54 -0800 To: Mitchell Yee , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Refurb T20 - any opinions? In-Reply-To: <21197C35EDDFD311954C00508B9B111FDE5AC9@MAILSF2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 09:50 AM 1/2/2001 -0800, you wrote: >This seems like a good deal. Before I make the leap, does >anyone have any comments about refurb T20s? I wish it had W2K preinstalled, >but I'll live. > >http://www2.warehouse.com/product.asp?dept%5Fid=1738&cat=clr&pf%5Fid=RCP1621 >2&blind=no > >Mitchell If I'm not mistaken...that's my machine! I think its worth it and if I had a desire for another one, would definitely consider it very seriously. ...unless you want one of those higher-res. screens--can't argue much with that. As for Win2K--install it yourself after-the-fact. I like having 98 as an option and prefer the dual-boot (but boot into Win2K 98% of the time). - Randy ------- From cph Tue Jan 2 14:27:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA27390 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:27:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28702; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:25:32 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28375; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from NewPad (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28362; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:25:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from NewPad (198.144.205.90 -> m205-90.dsl.tsoft.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:25:28 -0500 Received: from 192.168.0.1 by NewPad ([192.168.0.1] running VPOP3) with ESMTP; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 11:25:21 -0800 From: "Michael Geary" To: "Allan Ballard" , Subject: RE: Windows question for 760XL Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 11:25:21 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200101011822.NAA03550@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.4.0b - Registered List-Unsubscribe: > I'm still usine IE4.0 on my 760XL. > > It there *anything* to gain in an upgrade > to the current edition? One word: Autocomplete. I don't know how I ever got along without it. I fill out a lot of online forms, and autocomplete does all the work for me. If I ever filled out a similar form, even on another site, it finds what I typed in before and has it ready to go. Of course, if you never fill out online forms, this wouldn't matter. I don't know what the problems are that people are talking about with 5.0 and 5.5. I've used them both quite extensively, and they've both been very reliable for me. -Mike From cph Tue Jan 2 14:53:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA27588 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:53:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01769; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:53:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:52:01 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01480; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailcore3.oh.voyager.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01467; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailcore3.oh.voyager.net (207.90.100.14 -> mailcore3.oh.voyager.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:51:59 -0500 Received: from daveb (d288.as1.clmb.oh.voyager.net [216.28.53.32]) by mailcore3.oh.voyager.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA64157; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:51:37 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Dave W. Beauvais" To: "Michael Geary" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: RE: Windows question for 760XL Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:51:38 -0500 Keywords: Miscellaneous Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: I'd have to agree with that statement, Mike. Both 5.0x and 5.5 SP1 have worked very well on every system I've installed them on. The original 5.5 (pre-SP1) had some issues with rendering some DHTML-based Web sites on only one of systems, but I'm not entirely convinced that wasn't due to a video driver problem. I am really pleased with 5.5 SP1; it loads fast, renders pages faster than previous versions of IE and Netscape, and I honestly can't remember the last time it crashed on me. YMMV, of course, as with most things in this industry. Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Geary [mailto:Mike@Geary.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 02:25 PM > > [snip] > I don't know what the problems are that people are > talking about with 5.0 and 5.5. I've used them both > quite extensively, and they've both been very > reliable for me. > > -Mike From cph Tue Jan 2 15:53:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA28071 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:53:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06557; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:53:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:51:44 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06209; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:51:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06187; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:51:40 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA22785; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:51:17 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <005501c074fd$d10b4ae0$b962183f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: "Ray Bay" , References: <3A4FB0EE.36325F40@theriver.com> Subject: Re: Never Mind About AOL Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:51:41 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > AOL has great telephone Tech support if today's experience is any > proof. Which is one reason why it is a good choice for the nontechnically inclined (as much as the rest of us despise it). I'd planned to install AOL on a Thinkpad for my in-laws over Christmas, except EZ-Serve wasn't able to get the machine fixed and back to me in the 14 days I'd alotted. (Not really EZ-serve's, they fixed the machine in an afternoon. The rest of the time Airborne "Express" was diddling around.) - David R. From cph Tue Jan 2 16:58:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA28868 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:58:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12208; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:56:26 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12030; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:56:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9505.mail.yahoo.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12017; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:56:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from web9505.mail.yahoo.com (216.136.129.135 -> web9505.mail.yahoo.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:56:24 -0500 Message-ID: <20010102215623.10422.qmail@web9505.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.104.224.231] by web9505.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 02 Jan 2001 13:56:23 PST Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 13:56:23 -0800 (PST) From: "Steve C." Subject: RE: I.E 5.5 SUCKS! To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Would someone please explain how IE5.5 could possibly cause it to take 45 seconds to get to a link? Thanks. --- "Rick A. Bright" wrote: > IE 5.5 has many known bugs that make it almost > impossible to work with in a > variety of settings. I.E. 5.0 is fine with none of > the similar issues. You > can easily revert back to 5.0 or 4.0 by using your > uninstall programs button > in your control panel; it will automatically > uninstall 5.5 and revert you > back to your previous version. I would suggest > sticking with 5.0 until 5.6 > comes out and skip 5.5 altogether. > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwotr [mailto:wwotr@sonic.net] > Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 11:51 PM > To: ThinkPad Mailing List > Subject: I.E 5.5 SUCKS! > > Ever since I upgraded to this version, I have been > booted off-line about 20 > times in 6 hours! > My pages are loading EXTREMELY > SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > I mean when I go to double click on a link, it takes > 45 seconds to get > there IF I can get there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Should have stuck with 4.0 > > > Roger > wwotr > Visit my Websites dedicated to: > David Lee Roth/My PT Cruiser > www.sonic.net/~wwotr/enterpage.htm > ===== Sprint Broadband Direct Sucks, they should call it Sprint Narrowband! That is, when it's not DOWN! My old phone modem was faster! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ From cph Tue Jan 2 19:33:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA29746 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:33:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21330; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:33:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:30:47 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20776; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20734; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:30:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.241 -> mta5.snfc21.pbi.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:30:37 -0500 Received: from shbinstruments.com ([216.102.154.89]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G6K0016D8S1K9@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:16:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 16:18:46 -0800 From: Barry Megdal Subject: Problem With Standby on NewA21P (Win 2K) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <3A526FE6.8E77162A@shbinstruments.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en,pdf References: List-Unsubscribe: I just got a new TP A21P (2629-HWU), and have been very impressed with it. This is my first experience with Win 2K. I have heard how good its power management is, so I was very surprised when after a day of installing applications, I find that it can no longer go into standby.

I get the message "Preparing Standby...", and the machine locks up in that state. I have tried using task manager to remove tasks that I may have added, but it did not help. I should have made a list of all the Task Manager tasks before I added any applications, but I neglected to do that.

I really don't want to start removing apps one at a time, and even if I do, it may not help.

Any advice on how to fix my new toy would be very much appreciated.

Thanks

- Barry

--
Dr. Barry Megdal

Shb Instruments, Inc.
19215 Parthenia St., Suite A
Northridge, CA 91324
(818) 773-2000 (818) 773-2005 fax
www.shbinstruments.com

Dept. of Electrical Engineering
California Institute of Technology
Pasadena, CA
From cph Tue Jan 2 19:33:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA29745 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:33:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21333; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:33:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:30:43 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20757; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:30:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20742; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:30:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.241 -> mta5.snfc21.pbi.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:30:38 -0500 Received: from shbinstruments.com ([216.102.154.89]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G6K0028A8TW9N@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:17:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 16:19:54 -0800 From: Barry Megdal Subject: Problem With Standby on NewA21P (Win 2K) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <3A52702A.E5B7E9E0@shbinstruments.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en,pdf References: List-Unsubscribe: I just got a new TP A21P (2629-HWU), and have been very impressed with it. This is my first experience with Win 2K. I have heard how good its power management is, so I was very surprised when after a day of installing applications, I find that it can no longer go into standby. I get the message "Preparing Standby...", and the machine locks up in that state. I have tried using task manager to remove tasks that I may have added, but it did not help. I should have made a list of all the Task Manager tasks before I added any applications, but I neglected to do that. I really don't want to start removing apps one at a time, and even if I do, it may not help. Any advice on how to fix my new toy would be very much appreciated. Thanks - Barry -- Dr. Barry Megdal Shb Instruments, Inc. 19215 Parthenia St., Suite A Northridge, CA 91324 (818) 773-2000 (818) 773-2005 fax www.shbinstruments.com Dept. of Electrical Engineering California Institute of Technology Pasadena, CA From cph Tue Jan 2 20:14:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA30220 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 20:14:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24565; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 20:13:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 20:12:18 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24339; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 20:12:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24322; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 20:12:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93 -> uhura.concentric.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 20:12:15 -0500 Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id UAA07103; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 20:12:06 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from rjwt20 (w067.z208037041.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.37.41.67]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id UAA27165; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 20:11:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20010102170933.04769ee8@pop3.iceka.com> X-Sender: rwhittle%iceka.com/pop3.iceka.com@pop3.iceka.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 17:11:10 -0800 To: Barry Megdal , TP List From: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Problem With Standby on NewA21P (Win 2K) In-Reply-To: <3A52702A.E5B7E9E0@shbinstruments.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I've had this problem with a T20 under Win2K (but it wasn't *always* that way). I'd love it if I knew what the problem was before I try to re-install everything. Someday I'll get around to removing things, driver-by-driver until the problem doesn't occur (that seems to be the only solution, but that's time consuming too!). At 04:19 PM 1/2/2001 -0800, you wrote: >I just got a new TP A21P (2629-HWU), and have been very impressed with >it. This is my first experience with Win >2K. I have heard how good its power management is, so I was very >surprised when after a day of installing >applications, I find that it can no longer go into standby. > >I get the message "Preparing Standby...", and the machine locks up in >that state. I have tried using task manager to >remove tasks that I may have added, but it did not help. I should have >made a list of all the Task Manager tasks >before I added any applications, but I neglected to do that. > >I really don't want to start removing apps one at a time, and even if I >do, it may not help. > >Any advice on how to fix my new toy would be very much appreciated. > >Thanks > >- Barry > >-- >Dr. Barry Megdal > >Shb Instruments, Inc. >19215 Parthenia St., Suite A >Northridge, CA 91324 >(818) 773-2000 (818) 773-2005 fax >www.shbinstruments.com > >Dept. of Electrical Engineering >California Institute of Technology >Pasadena, CA > > ------- From cph Tue Jan 2 21:09:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA30539 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:09:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27516; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:08:08 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27270; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27257; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:08:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (207.69.200.60 -> hall.mail.mindspring.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:08:06 -0500 Received: from WALD8 (dialup-209.244.183.121.NewYork2.Level3.net [209.244.183.121]) by hall.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA28619 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:08:03 -0500 (EST) From: "William Armstrong" To: Subject: RE: Problem With Standby on NewA21P (Win 2K) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:08:06 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C07500.19E51FF0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <3A526FE6.8E77162A@shbinstruments.com> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C07500.19E51FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry, What have you installed? Quicken? NAV? It's probably a portion of some app that runs all of the time. Try removing stuff out of your Startup folders. Also try removing stuff from Processes. If you are using Quicken you may need to do a Unistall/Reinstall. These are just some suggestions. It's all a bit tedious, but eventually you will figure it out. Bill Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: Barry Megdal [mailto:bmegdal@shbinstruments.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 7:19 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Problem With Standby on NewA21P (Win 2K) I just got a new TP A21P (2629-HWU), and have been very impressed with it. This is my first experience with Win 2K. I have heard how good its power management is, so I was very surprised when after a day of installing applications, I find that it can no longer go into standby. I get the message "Preparing Standby...", and the machine locks up in that state. I have tried using task manager to remove tasks that I may have added, but it did not help. I should have made a list of all the Task Manager tasks before I added any applications, but I neglected to do that. I really don't want to start removing apps one at a time, and even if I do, it may not help. Any advice on how to fix my new toy would be very much appreciated. Thanks - Barry -- Dr. Barry Megdal Shb Instruments, Inc. 19215 Parthenia St., Suite A Northridge, CA 91324 (818) 773-2000 (818) 773-2005 fax www.shbinstruments.com Dept. of Electrical Engineering California Institute of Technology Pasadena, CA ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C07500.19E51FF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Barry,

What=20 have you installed? Quicken? NAV? It's probably a portion of some = app that=20 runs all of the time. Try removing stuff out of your Startup folders. = Also try=20 removing stuff from Processes. If you are using Quicken you may need to = do a=20 Unistall/Reinstall. These are just some suggestions. It's all a bit = tedious, but=20 eventually you will figure it out.

Bill=20 Armstrong

-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Megdal=20 [mailto:bmegdal@shbinstruments.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January = 02, 2001=20 7:19 PM
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Problem = With=20 Standby on NewA21P (Win 2K)

I just got a new TP = A21P=20 (2629-HWU), and have been very impressed with it. This is my = first=20 experience with Win 2K. I have heard how good its power = management is,=20 so I was very surprised when after a day of installing applications, I = find=20 that it can no longer go into standby.=20
I get the message "Preparing Standby...", and the machine = locks up in=20 that state. I have tried using task manager to remove tasks that = I may=20 have added, but it did not help. I should have made a list of = all the=20 Task Manager tasks before I added any applications, but I neglected to = do=20 that.=20
I really don't want to start removing apps one at a time, and even = if I do,=20 it may not help.=20
Any advice on how to fix my new toy would be very much appreciated. =
Thanks=20
- Barry=20
-- =
Dr. Barry Megdal=20
Shb Instruments,=20 Inc.
19215=20 Parthenia St., Suite A
Northridge, CA 91324
(818) 773-2000 = (818) 773-2005=20 fax
www.shbinstruments.com=20
Dept. of Electrical=20 Engineering
California Institute of Technology
Pasadena, CA =
=20

------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C07500.19E51FF0-- From cph Wed Jan 3 00:58:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA31870 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:58:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07888; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:58:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:56:26 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07635; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:56:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailcore1.oh.voyager.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07622; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:56:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailcore1.oh.voyager.net (207.0.229.19 -> mailcore1.oh.voyager.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:56:23 -0500 Received: from daveb (d91.as0.clmb.oh.voyager.net [216.127.10.91]) by mailcore1.oh.voyager.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA24414; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:56:21 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Dave W. Beauvais" To: "Steve C." , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: RE: I.E 5.5 SUCKS! Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:56:20 -0500 Keywords: Miscellaneous Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010102215623.10422.qmail@web9505.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: I can't, but I've also never seen that happen before when it couldn't be attributed to server load or other network traffic. Is it one site in particular, or just any random site? Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve C. [mailto:stevec50@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 04:56 PM > > Would someone please explain how IE5.5 could possibly > cause it to take 45 seconds to get to a link? Thanks. > [snip] From cph Wed Jan 3 02:23:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA32157 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:23:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11179; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:23:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:21:29 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10977; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:21:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10964; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:21:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.36 -> mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:21:28 -0500 Received: from 66.chicago-05-10rs.il.dial-access.att.net ([12.75.171.66]) by mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20010103072127.LLIO1500.mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net@66.chicago-05-10rs.il.dial-access.att.net> for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 07:21:27 +0000 From: Emanuel Brown To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Never Mind About AOL Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 01:21:32 -0600 Message-ID: References: <3A4FB0EE.36325F40@theriver.com> <005501c074fd$d10b4ae0$b962183f@math.hawaii.edu> In-Reply-To: <005501c074fd$d10b4ae0$b962183f@math.hawaii.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id CAA32158 On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:51:41 -1000, you wrote: >> AOL has great telephone Tech support if today's experience is any >> proof. > >Which is one reason why it is a good choice for the nontechnically inclined (as >much as the rest of us despise it). > >I'd planned to install AOL on a Thinkpad for my in-laws over Christmas, except >EZ-Serve wasn't able to get >the machine fixed and back to me in the 14 days I'd alotted. (Not really >EZ-serve's, they fixed the machine in an >afternoon. The rest of the time Airborne "Express" was diddling around.) > >- David R. While we're on the subject. As some list-members already know, I bought 5 701s for some relatives and I'm in the process of setting them up with Windows 95, Office 97, and AOL. What I'd like to do is pre-pay for a year of AOL and have them share an account, but the AOL people I've spoken with say this isn't an option, and they're none-to-fond of the fact that I want to pay by check rather than attach my CC info to the account (a necessary pre-caution, since my younger siblings have proven quite creative when handed any of my financial information). Does anyone have the number or e-mail of someone at AOL that's particularly cooperative and understanding about such things that I could try? Emanuel Portable Computing FAQ - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/ Sony VAIO 505 info - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/sony505.html Join the 505 Mailing List - http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/sony505/ From cph Wed Jan 3 02:51:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA32235 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:51:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12832; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:49:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:47:45 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12666; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12653; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:47:42 -0500 Received: from vonbraunw (tspsl1-421.gate.net [199.227.173.167]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA206224; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:47:32 -0500 Message-ID: <003701c07559$77bdf210$9640fea9@vonbraunw> From: "Bill Morrow" To: "Emanuel Brown" , References: <3A4FB0EE.36325F40@theriver.com> <005501c074fd$d10b4ae0$b962183f@math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Never Mind About AOL Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:47:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: pay with a CC, then after the year i spaid, cancel the card.. :-) Cordially, :-) Bill Morrow WEB page http://thinkpads.com thinkpads.com Open Forum http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? E-Mail: bill at thinkpads dot com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emanuel Brown" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 2:21 AM Subject: Re: Never Mind About AOL > On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:51:41 -1000, you wrote: > > >> AOL has great telephone Tech support if today's experience is any > >> proof. > > > >Which is one reason why it is a good choice for the nontechnically inclined (as > >much as the rest of us despise it). > > > >I'd planned to install AOL on a Thinkpad for my in-laws over Christmas, except > >EZ-Serve wasn't able to get > >the machine fixed and back to me in the 14 days I'd alotted. (Not really > >EZ-serve's, they fixed the machine in an > >afternoon. The rest of the time Airborne "Express" was diddling around.) > > > >- David R. > > While we're on the subject. As some list-members already know, I > bought 5 701s for some relatives and I'm in the process of setting > them up with Windows 95, Office 97, and AOL. What I'd like to do is > pre-pay for a year of AOL and have them share an account, but the AOL > people I've spoken with say this isn't an option, and they're > none-to-fond of the fact that I want to pay by check rather than > attach my CC info to the account (a necessary pre-caution, since my > younger siblings have proven quite creative when handed any of my > financial information). Does anyone have the number or e-mail of > someone at AOL that's particularly cooperative and understanding about > such things that I could try? > Emanuel > Portable Computing FAQ - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/ > Sony VAIO 505 info - http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/sony505.html > Join the 505 Mailing List - http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/sony505/ > From cph Wed Jan 3 04:40:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id EAA00437 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:40:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21275; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:40:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:38:23 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21052; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:38:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmbaaa.compuserve.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21039; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:38:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from spdmbaaa.compuserve.com (149.174.206.153 -> ds-img-7.compuserve.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:38:21 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmbaaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id EAA21607 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:38:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:37:54 -0500 From: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> Subject: I.E 5.5 SUCKS! - what about Opera? Sender: Mark Gardiner <100550.3170@compuserve.com> To: thinkpad Message-ID: <200101030438_MC2-C06D-428C@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id EAA00438 Hi all, The latest thread on IE5.5 problems is as I would expect. I too use IE 4 and, still for speed, Netscape Nav Gold! Although I have a copy of Opera on my HDD, I have not taken to this (mainly as it has a slightly different look, interface) but welcome others experiences with this browser as it is much smaller footprint. I hate the fact that nearly all the Java related errors are coders building-in useless, unwelcomed effects or Ads which I don't want to see... I never liked the upgrade from IE 4 to 5 as it caused all sorts of problems and took up too much HDD space at the time. Cheers Mark From cph Wed Jan 3 09:14:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id JAA02365 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:14:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06108; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:14:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:12:27 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05916; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05903; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:12:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (209.228.33.206 -> c007-h000.c007.snv.cp.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:12:24 -0500 Received: (cpmta 27052 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2001 06:12:23 -0800 Received: from pantano.theriver.com (205.216.137.2) by smtp.test.theriver.com (209.228.33.206) with SMTP; 3 Jan 2001 06:12:23 -0800 X-Sent: 3 Jan 2001 14:12:23 GMT Received: from theriver.com (a22.pm3-15.theriver.com [208.164.96.86]) by pantano.theriver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9A525C82; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 07:12:21 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A533377.72A3ECB4@theriver.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 07:13:11 -0700 From: Ray Bay Organization: Canyonlands Publishing Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-NSCPCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Emanuel Brown Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Never ... About AOL References: <3A4FB0EE.36325F40@theriver.com> <005501c074fd$d10b4ae0$b962183f@math.hawaii.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Go to the AOL website, www.aol.com, look up the support section. They have several numbers listed. When you call them, they are very thorough and very helpful... and will tell you exactly what to do and how to do it... If they can do it at all. They do have a very firm, much shorter cut-off for non-credit card payment and may not do it any more as it is part of their security thing... From cph Wed Jan 3 09:44:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id JAA02534 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:44:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09096; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:42:49 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08897; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:42:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from front003.cluster1.charter.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08882; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from front003.cluster1.charter.net (24.216.159.200 -> outbound.charter.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:42:47 -0500 Received: from [24.216.182.144] (HELO charter.net) by front003.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.2a) with ESMTP id 7386608 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 03 Jan 2001 09:41:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3A533A77.74C70B4F@charter.net> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 08:43:03 -0600 From: Bryan Biggers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Two battery operation References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I have a 760ED. I'm not sure if it is working right when I put in two batteries or not, maybe someone who has one can tell me what is supposed to happen. When I put in a second (known good, charged) battery in the bay, the second battery indicator lights up. The machine shows about 2x the normal operating time in the fuel gauge, this looks good so far. Now the problem; when the remaining capacity gets down to 50%, the machine just shuts off! Duh, isn't it supposed to switch over and use the other battery? I'm wondering if this requires the use of one of the suspend or hibernation modes that I don't have enabled. Can anyone who has used 2 batteries tell me what is supposed to happen? Does the machine go into hibernation and you have to wake it up again to use the second battery? Is there any test that I should perform? Batteries will charge in both positions, by the way. Bryan From cph Wed Jan 3 10:33:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA02872 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:33:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14074; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:33:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:31:35 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13831; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:31:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13814; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (18.27.0.167 -> sls.lcs.mit.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:31:32 -0500 Received: from sls.lcs.mit.edu (gummi [18.27.0.33]) by sls.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28499; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:31:24 -0500 (EST) Sender: ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu Message-ID: <3A5345CC.C424F0F9@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:31:24 -0500 From: I Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18-pre25.1.smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Barry Megdal CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Problem With Standby on NewA21P (Win 2K) References: <3A52702A.E5B7E9E0@shbinstruments.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: It could be a driver that doesn't support standby. Do you have any PC cards installed at the time? --Lee Hetherington From cph Wed Jan 3 12:36:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA04109 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:36:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28563; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:36:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:32:13 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27892; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:32:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27879; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:32:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (216.155.0.8 -> trinity.magpage.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:32:11 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (pm3-12-17.phl.magpage.com [216.155.62.122]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f03HW8t31031; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:32:08 -0500 From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Emanuel Brown" , Subject: RE: Never Mind About AOL Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:34:46 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: Emanuel Brown [mailto:epbrown01@att.net] wrote: > While we're on the subject. As some list-members already know, I > bought 5 701s for some relatives and I'm in the process of setting > them up with Windows 95, Office 97, and AOL. What I'd like to do is > pre-pay for a year of AOL and have them share an account, but the AOL > people I've spoken with say this isn't an option, and they're > none-to-fond of the fact that I want to pay by check rather than > attach my CC info to the account (a necessary pre-caution, since my > younger siblings have proven quite creative when handed any of my > financial information). Does anyone have the number or e-mail of > someone at AOL that's particularly cooperative and understanding about > such things that I could try? I don't understand that Emanuel, AOL offers a pre-paid annual subscription: "$19.95 per month ($239.40 1 year prepaid subscription) providing access to AOL and the Internet, without hourly fees, for members who pay in advance for 1 year." You can read that right on the Pricing Plans page: http://www.aol.com/info/pricing.html While they can share the account and each have a unique screen name, you _do_ know that only one can be online at a time, right? Regards, James From cph Wed Jan 3 12:49:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA04195 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:49:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00744; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:46:07 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00087; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from fw1.uhc.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00070; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:46:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from fw1.uhc.com (168.183.16.135 -> gw.uhc.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:46:04 -0500 Received: from fw1.uhc.com (root@localhost) by fw1.uhc.com with ESMTP id LAA27265 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:46:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts-jl (DTS_JL.uhc.com [10.145.185.103]) by fw1.uhc.com with SMTP id LAA27257 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:46:01 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20010103124822.01d79320@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:48:22 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: RE: Never Mind About AOL In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:34 PM 01/03/2001 -0500, James H. E. Maugham wrote: >While they can share the account and each have a unique screen name, you _do_ >know that only one can be online at a time, right? > Is that still true if they access it from one of the free services such as BlueLight or NetZero via TCP/IP instead of directly using dialup? Jane From cph Wed Jan 3 13:15:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA04421 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:15:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03529; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:15:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:12:35 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03144; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03122; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:12:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (216.155.0.8 -> trinity.magpage.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:12:28 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (pm3-12-17.phl.magpage.com [216.155.62.122]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f03ICFt17586; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:12:15 -0500 From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Jane Loyless" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: RE: Never Mind About AOL Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:14:54 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20010103124822.01d79320@pop.mindspring.com> List-Unsubscribe: Happy new year Jane, Jane Loyless [mailto:jloyless@netbox.com] wrote: > >While they can share the account and each have a unique screen name, you _do_ > >know that only one can be online at a time, right? > > > > Is that still true if they access it from one of the free services such as > BlueLight or NetZero via TCP/IP instead of directly using dialup? Seems to be the case Jane. If I try to log in to my AOL account from my ISP's server or by direct DIALUP to AOL and either my Mom or my daughter in CA are online, I'm denied access. Same goes for IM if I attempt to chat with either of them, I have to use my ISP's server to access Instant Messenger to chat with them individually, and my Mom and daughter can't both be online and chatting together in IM either. Kind of a PITA, but I only keep the account for my Mom to have relatively painless email access and for my daughter who's in training for the Athens Olympics and moves around a _lot_. Warm regards, James From cph Wed Jan 3 13:28:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA04577 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:28:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05067; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:28:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:25:16 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04713; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04699; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from exch1.smh.com (4.21.209.242 -> exch1.smh.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:25:11 -0500 Received: by exch1.smh.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:25:02 -0500 Message-ID: <587C9ED8EF99D3118DCD00508B115FF22A2070@exch1.smh.com> From: "Dr. Cornelius Halvey" To: "'ThinkPad Mailing List '" Subject: RE: Never Mind About AOL Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:25:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: Yes, Only one account name online at any given time. How you access AOL makes no difference. They could use AOL Instant Messenger with their screen names and a TCP/IP connection. Then they all could "talk" to each other simultaneously. Neil -----Original Message----- From: Jane Loyless To: ThinkPad Mailing List Sent: 1/3/01 12:48 PM Subject: RE: Never Mind About AOL At 12:34 PM 01/03/2001 -0500, James H. E. Maugham wrote: >While they can share the account and each have a unique screen name, you _do_ >know that only one can be online at a time, right? > Is that still true if they access it from one of the free services such as BlueLight or NetZero via TCP/IP instead of directly using dialup? Jane From cph Wed Jan 3 13:36:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA04668 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:36:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07026; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:36:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:32:29 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05759; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from fw1.uhc.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05745; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from fw1.uhc.com (168.183.16.135 -> gw.uhc.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:32:27 -0500 Received: from fw1.uhc.com (root@localhost) by fw1.uhc.com with ESMTP id MAA12280 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:32:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts-jl (DTS_JL.uhc.com [10.145.185.103]) by fw1.uhc.com with SMTP id MAA12276 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:32:24 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20010103133445.0098c4a0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:34:45 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: RE: Never Mind About AOL In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.20010103124822.01d79320@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 01:14 PM 01/03/2001 -0500, James H. E. Maugham wrote: >Happy new year Jane, > Happy New Year to you and everyone else on the list, too! >Seems to be the case Jane. If I try to log in to my AOL account from my ISP's >server or by direct DIALUP to AOL and either my Mom or my daughter in CA are >online, I'm denied access. > Well, that's kind of annoying. I can see why they would block multiple dialups but am a little puzzled about the direct connection blocking. Seems like they would allow that at least for an additional (small) fee. I have my father set up to connect using my MindSpring account. He mainly just does e-mail and a very few preset web sites, so we hardly ever conflict. I set ICQ up to load automatically on his TP755CD (obligatory TP content) so that I can see if we're both on. Supposedly, MindSpring will charge me $1/hr for simultaneous connections (and this is all dialup), but I don't think they've ever actually done it. I assume that they would if we were both on for extended periods of time. Thanks - Jane From cph Wed Jan 3 14:25:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA05153 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:25:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12767; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:25:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:20:57 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12077; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:20:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12063; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:20:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (216.155.0.8 -> trinity.magpage.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:20:54 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (pm3-12-17.phl.magpage.com [216.155.62.122]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f03JKpt18210 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:20:51 -0500 From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: RE: Never Mind About AOL Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:23:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20010103133445.0098c4a0@pop.mindspring.com> List-Unsubscribe: Jane Loyless [mailto:jloyless@netbox.com] wrote: > Well, that's kind of annoying. I can see why they would block multiple > dialups but am a little puzzled about the direct connection blocking. > Seems like they would allow that at least for an additional (small) fee. Oh they will! Only $9.95 a MONTH! Which, coincidentally, is the same as monthly basic service. > I have my father set up to connect using my MindSpring account. He mainly > just does e-mail and a very few preset web sites, so we hardly ever > conflict. I set ICQ up to load automatically on his TP755CD (obligatory TP > content) so that I can see if we're both on. I've got a similar setup in that my Mom in PA has my old TP760XL (also obligatory Thinkpad content!) and really only uses it for email and to access a few websites such as AARP and Habitat for Humanity. My daughter has one of my TP600s with her and she makes good use of the wide selection of AOL access numbers available, especially the international ones. I've got ICG set so that I get a notification whenever one or the other is online. As much as many of us tend to look down our noses at AOL, for many it's an ideal means of getting limited internet access and email. Regards, James From cph Wed Jan 3 15:06:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA05506 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:06:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18726; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:06:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:02:06 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18002; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgoldman.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17981; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:01:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgoldman.com (216.101.170.230) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:01:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (dgoldman@localhost) by dgoldman.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA41567; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:09:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:09:32 -0800 (PST) From: David Goldman X-Sender: dgoldman@houdini.dgoldman.com To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: RE: Never Mind About AOL In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20010103124822.01d79320@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Jane Loyless wrote: > At 12:34 PM 01/03/2001 -0500, James H. E. Maugham wrote: > > >While they can share the account and each have a unique screen name, you _do_ > >know that only one can be online at a time, right? > > > > Is that still true if they access it from one of the free services such as > BlueLight or NetZero via TCP/IP instead of directly using dialup? If they are connecting via a free service, why do they need AOL? -- David Goldman From cph Wed Jan 3 15:13:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA05549 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:13:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19809; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:13:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:09:27 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19125; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:09:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from fw1.uhc.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19108; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from fw1.uhc.com (168.183.16.135 -> gw.uhc.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:09:24 -0500 Received: from fw1.uhc.com (root@localhost) by fw1.uhc.com with ESMTP id OAA16492 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:09:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts-jl (DTS_JL.uhc.com [10.145.185.103]) by fw1.uhc.com with SMTP id OAA16488 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:09:22 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20010103151142.00c24580@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 15:11:42 -0500 To: ThinkPad Mailing List From: Jane Loyless Subject: RE: Never Mind About AOL In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.20010103124822.01d79320@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 12:09 PM 01/03/2001 -0800, David Goldman wrote: >If they are connecting via a free service, why do they need AOL? > Familiarity and comfort level. From cph Wed Jan 3 17:00:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA06753 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:00:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28808; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:00:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:55:20 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28252; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailout3-0.nyroc.rr.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28239; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailout3-0.nyroc.rr.com (24.92.226.118 -> mailout3-0.nyroc.rr.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:55:18 -0500 Received: from mail3.stny.rr.com (mail3-0 [24.92.226.69]) by mailout3-0.nyroc.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26170 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:51:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from jeff-s-thinkpad.potsdam.edu ([24.95.140.237]) by mail3.stny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-53939U80000L80000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:51:18 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010103074719.02fb12a0@mail.potsdam.edu> X-Sender: hatton64@mail.potsdam.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 07:49:57 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jeff Hatton Subject: DVD Win 2000 770 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I am trying to get DVD playback on a 770 running win2000 with no hardware decoder. I am having problems getting the mediamatics dvd player to install and the only info I have found on it is to install it in win NT and run the upgrade to win2000 then apply the fixpack. win2000 is allready installed and I don't want to have to wipe the drive to go back to NT. any suggestions? Jeff Hatton Hatton64@potsdam.edu From cph Wed Jan 3 17:19:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA06916 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:19:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01378; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:19:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:15:00 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00596; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:14:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00580; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:14:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (216.155.0.8 -> trinity.magpage.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:14:58 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (pm3-12-17.phl.magpage.com [216.155.62.122]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f03MEto13578; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:14:55 -0500 From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Jeff Hatton" , Subject: RE: DVD Win 2000 770 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:17:36 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010103074719.02fb12a0@mail.potsdam.edu> List-Unsubscribe: Jeff, You _must_ load the MPEG drivers for W2K: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-46FRPA.html first, then download and install the upgrade for DVD Express: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/MIGR-4GV37K.html CAUTION! This file is 16MB! Regards, James > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Hatton [mailto:hatton64@potsdam.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 10:50 AM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: DVD Win 2000 770 > > > I am trying to get DVD playback on a 770 running win2000 with no hardware > decoder. I am having problems getting the mediamatics dvd player to > install and the only info I have found on it is to install it in win NT and > run the upgrade to win2000 then apply the fixpack. win2000 is allready > installed and I don't want to have to wipe the drive to go back to NT. any > suggestions? > > Jeff Hatton > Hatton64@potsdam.edu > From cph Wed Jan 3 17:23:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA06963 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:23:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02155; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:23:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:19:31 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01269; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:19:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from lolita.speakeasy.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01256; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:19:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from lolita.speakeasy.net (216.254.0.13 -> lolita.speakeasy.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:19:28 -0500 Received: (qmail 5037 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2001 22:12:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gonzo.speakeasy.net) (192.168.0.5) by 192.168.0.13 with SMTP; 3 Jan 2001 22:12:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 4448 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2001 22:19:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wald6) (216.254.51.110) by gonzo.speakeasy.net with SMTP; 3 Jan 2001 22:19:25 -0000 From: "William Armstrong" To: Subject: RE: DVD Win 2000 770 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:21:49 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010103074719.02fb12a0@mail.potsdam.edu> List-Unsubscribe: Others may disagree, but I'm pretty sure you need the hardware decoder for W2k. I believe this applies to all flavors of 770. My own experience only covers the 770Z, on which I installed W2k on some time ago. My recollection is that if you did a clean install of W2k you lost the functionality of the DVD for playback of DVD movies unless you had the Enhanced Video Adapter (EVA). If you did an upgrade install from either Win'98 or NT you may be able to use the software DVD encoder, but I'm not sure. Others here may know. I never did understand why IBM couldn't provide the software to allow DVD playback with W2k. Just today I have purchased the EVA card for my 770Z, even though my wife now uses this machine as I have moved on to an A21p. The EVA is pretty hard to find. Good luck, Bill -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Hatton [mailto:hatton64@potsdam.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 10:50 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: DVD Win 2000 770 I am trying to get DVD playback on a 770 running win2000 with no hardware decoder. I am having problems getting the mediamatics dvd player to install and the only info I have found on it is to install it in win NT and run the upgrade to win2000 then apply the fixpack. win2000 is allready installed and I don't want to have to wipe the drive to go back to NT. any suggestions? Jeff Hatton Hatton64@potsdam.edu From cph Wed Jan 3 18:45:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA07674 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:45:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08903; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:45:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:41:17 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08311; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:41:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08298; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (128.171.50.21 -> kahuna.math.hawaii.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:41:14 -0500 Received: from sierpinski (robinson.math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.251]) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA27365; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:40:55 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <000d01c075de$ab8b5a80$eb62183f@math.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: "David Ross" From: "David Ross" To: , "Jeff Hatton" References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010103074719.02fb12a0@mail.potsdam.edu> Subject: Re: DVD Win 2000 770 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:41:16 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: > I am trying to get DVD playback on a 770 running win2000 with no hardware > decoder. I am having problems getting the mediamatics dvd player to > install If you are not doing hardware decoding then there is no very convincing reason to use the mediamatics player, which is usually considered not terribly good. You might take a look at some of the DVD web sites that discuss such software, eg http://www.7thzone.com/ or http://www.digital-digest.com/ - David R. From cph Wed Jan 3 18:57:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA07780 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:57:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10112; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:53:32 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09573; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:53:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx2.magma.ca (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09560; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx2.magma.ca (206.191.0.250 -> mx2.magma.ca) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:53:30 -0500 Received: from mail6.magma.ca (mail6.magma.ca [206.191.0.248]) by mx2.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12393 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ycxfssto (hs4-195.magma.ca [64.26.167.195]) by mail6.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA22202 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:53:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101032353.SAA22202@mail6.magma.ca> From: "Andrew Webber" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 18:53:46 -0500 Reply-To: "Andrew Webber" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 95 (4.0.1212) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20010103151142.00c24580@pop.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Never Mind About AOL List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 15:11:42 -0500, Jane Loyless wrote: >At 12:09 PM 01/03/2001 -0800, David Goldman wrote: > >>If they are connecting via a free service, why do they need AOL? >> > >Familiarity and comfort level. And unique content? I recall joining GEnie many years ago because that was where my fellow hobbyists and potential customers were hanging out. Then when GEnie shut down (or reorganized, I forget), AOL was where the bulk of them migrated and I followed. andrew [awebber@wwwebbers.com] ------ for PGP public key, send email with "send public key" as subject current local weather: www.cnn.com/WEATHER/ce/Ontario/OttawaYOW.html From cph Wed Jan 3 21:57:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA08982 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:57:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20681; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:57:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:51:43 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19925; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from caliban.dogmead.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19912; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from caliban.dogmead.com (198.73.240.1 -> caliban.dogmead.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:51:41 -0500 Received: from lear.dogmead.com (lear.dogmead.com [198.73.240.7]) by caliban.dogmead.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14471; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by lear.dogmead.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:51:37 -0500 Message-ID: <003E99A0E62A7A44B71A35CB3FC6728703062B@lear.dogmead.com> From: Tim Tyhurst To: "'Bryan Biggers'" Cc: ThinkPad Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Two battery operation Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:51:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: Easy one first -- I just sent my reply to you, without copying the list. Oops. It's been a while (I no longer have my 760E) but my batteries would exhibit behaviour similar to what you observe -- that is, they sometimes didn't drop linearly to 0%, but would quit earlier. I'm pretty sure that the computer wasn't suspending when doing a battery changeover, so I think that would rule out (3). If you don't have any battery in the option bay at all, does it draws power OK from the battery in the main battery bay? I have to say I'm inclined to think that it might be (2) or (4). Can you warm-swap batteries when the unit is suspended, without the unit powering off? If you can, that might rule out (4). tim -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Biggers [mailto:bbiggers@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 8:36 PM To: Tim Tyhurst Subject: Re: Two battery operation Tim, yes, it acts the same if I reverse the batteries. I just tried it tonight, and it drew from the battery in the bay until the system was just over 50% drained (about 52%), then it shut off. If I turn it back on, it runs for a few seconds off the battery in the bay then turns off again. The only things that I can think of are that... 1) My batteries are too weak, and die early, but does it really drain to 0% on your system? Mine usually quits at about 4% left. Maybe it really wants to get to 0% to switch. 2) It is busted. 3) It goes into suspend for a second to switch, and mine is disabled. 4) It uses the internal rechargable backup battery, and mine is dead or bad. Question, I sent my query to the list, but just switched to individual messages instead of the digest. Your message appeared to come right from you instead of the list, did you send it to me or to the list or both? It will be a pain if all the messages don't come from the list, then I can't put them in a folder. Bryan Tim Tyhurst wrote: > > I've used two batteries on a 760E, and it should indeed switch over and use > the other battery without any special user actions. As I recall, it will > draw from the battery in the option bay first, and switch over to the main > one. > > Do you get the same behaviour when you switch the two batteries? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Biggers [mailto:bbiggers@charter.net] > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 9:43 AM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Two battery operation > > I have a 760ED. I'm not sure if it is working right when I put in > two batteries or not, maybe someone who has one can tell me what > is supposed to happen. > > When I put in a second (known good, charged) battery in the bay, > the second battery indicator lights up. The machine shows about > 2x the normal operating time in the fuel gauge, this looks good > so far. Now the problem; when the remaining capacity gets down to > 50%, the machine just shuts off! Duh, isn't it supposed to switch > over and use the other battery? I'm wondering if this requires > the use of one of the suspend or hibernation modes that I don't > have enabled. > > Can anyone who has used 2 batteries tell me what is supposed to > happen? Does the machine go into hibernation and you have to wake > it up again to use the second battery? Is there any test that I > should perform? Batteries will charge in both positions, by the > way. > > Bryan From cph Wed Jan 3 22:56:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA09337 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:56:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24925; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:56:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:53:46 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24521; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:53:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA24508; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:53:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (130.18.80.10 -> Ra.MsState.Edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:53:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (rss3@localhost); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.10.2/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id f043rZd22771; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:53:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:53:35 -0600 (CST) From: Siva Ratnam Sivasingam To: Tim Tyhurst cc: "'Bryan Biggers'" , ThinkPad Users Mailing List Subject: price for second hand A20m. In-Reply-To: <003E99A0E62A7A44B71A35CB3FC6728703062B@lear.dogmead.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: how much would i expect to pay for a second hand thinkpad A20m 750Mhz, 15.1 tft, 20G Hdd, 128Mb ram? thanks guys! siva ******************************************************************************* Name : Siva Ratnam Sivasingam Major : Computer Science Phone(H) : 1-662-3245643 CellPhone: 1-662-4185681 Address : P.O. Box 7768, Mississippi State University, MS 39762, USA. Homepage : http://www.geocities.com/jetaime_tm ICQ : 5749493 and 70828907 Quote : To find beauty, you have to search the soul. ******************************************************************************* On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Tim Tyhurst wrote: > Easy one first -- I just sent my reply to you, without copying the list. > Oops. > > It's been a while (I no longer have my 760E) but my batteries would exhibit > behaviour similar to what you observe -- that is, they sometimes didn't drop > linearly to 0%, but would quit earlier. > > I'm pretty sure that the computer wasn't suspending when doing a battery > changeover, so I think that would rule out (3). > > If you don't have any battery in the option bay at all, does it draws power > OK from the battery in the main battery bay? > > I have to say I'm inclined to think that it might be (2) or (4). Can you > warm-swap batteries when the unit is suspended, without the unit powering > off? If you can, that might rule out (4). > > tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Biggers [mailto:bbiggers@charter.net] > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 8:36 PM > To: Tim Tyhurst > Subject: Re: Two battery operation > > > Tim, yes, it acts the same if I reverse the batteries. I just > tried it tonight, and it drew from the battery in the bay until > the system was just over 50% drained (about 52%), then it shut > off. If I turn it back on, it runs for a few seconds off the > battery in the bay then turns off again. The only things that I > can think of are that... > 1) My batteries are too weak, and die early, but does it really > drain to 0% on your system? Mine usually quits at about 4% left. > Maybe it really wants to get to 0% to switch. > 2) It is busted. > 3) It goes into suspend for a second to switch, and mine is > disabled. > 4) It uses the internal rechargable backup battery, and mine is > dead or bad. > > > Question, I sent my query to the list, but just switched to > individual messages instead of the digest. Your message appeared > to come right from you instead of the list, did you send it to me > or to the list or both? It will be a pain if all the messages > don't come from the list, then I can't put them in a folder. > > Bryan > > Tim Tyhurst wrote: > > > > I've used two batteries on a 760E, and it should indeed switch over and > use > > the other battery without any special user actions. As I recall, it will > > draw from the battery in the option bay first, and switch over to the main > > one. > > > > Do you get the same behaviour when you switch the two batteries? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bryan Biggers [mailto:bbiggers@charter.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 9:43 AM > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Two battery operation > > > > I have a 760ED. I'm not sure if it is working right when I put in > > two batteries or not, maybe someone who has one can tell me what > > is supposed to happen. > > > > When I put in a second (known good, charged) battery in the bay, > > the second battery indicator lights up. The machine shows about > > 2x the normal operating time in the fuel gauge, this looks good > > so far. Now the problem; when the remaining capacity gets down to > > 50%, the machine just shuts off! Duh, isn't it supposed to switch > > over and use the other battery? I'm wondering if this requires > > the use of one of the suspend or hibernation modes that I don't > > have enabled. > > > > Can anyone who has used 2 batteries tell me what is supposed to > > happen? Does the machine go into hibernation and you have to wake > > it up again to use the second battery? Is there any test that I > > should perform? Batteries will charge in both positions, by the > > way. > > > > Bryan > From cph Thu Jan 4 01:47:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA10406 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:47:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03639; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:47:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:43:45 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03098; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03084; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (194.29.192.20 -> netsonic.fi) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:43:43 -0500 Received: from TP560X (letku107.adsl.netsonic.fi [194.29.195.107]) by nalle.netsonic.fi (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f046heQ02915 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:43:41 +0200 Message-Id: <200101040643.f046heQ02915@nalle.netsonic.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 08:43:36 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: [TP570] mixing and matching PC66 and PC100 RAM X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.2 List-Unsubscribe: I have a TP570/333Mhz with 64 MB (PC66) installed. Can I add a faster (PC100) 128 MB module to it? Thanks, Dominique From cph Thu Jan 4 09:12:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id JAA13540 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:12:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01014; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:12:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:09:14 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00624; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:09:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00610; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:09:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ya.dhs.org (216.59.47.71 -> d83b2f47.dsl.flashcom.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:09:12 -0500 Received: from sasha (sashka [192.168.0.1]) by ya.dhs.org (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f04E8xQ00170; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:08:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:08:58 -0500 From: Sashka X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Reply-To: Sashka X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <70751801.20010104090858@tryam.com> To: Dominique Pivard CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TP570] mixing and matching PC66 and PC100 RAM In-reply-To: <200101040643.f046heQ02915@nalle.netsonic.fi> References: <200101040643.f046heQ02915@nalle.netsonic.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Hello, yes, you can Thursday, January 04, 2001, 1:43:36 AM, you wrote: DP> I have a TP570/333Mhz with 64 MB (PC66) installed. Can I add a faster DP> (PC100) 128 MB module to it? DP> Thanks, Dominique -- Sashka From cph Thu Jan 4 13:14:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA15426 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:14:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25764; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:12:21 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25484; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from spock.leben.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25471; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:12:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from spock.leben.com (209.44.133.26 -> 209-44-133-26.pdq.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:12:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (mitch@localhost) by spock.leben.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28681 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:53:13 -0600 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:53:13 -0600 (CST) From: Mitchell Leben To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: AOL SMTP Server? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Grrr, I just love dealing with AOL! I am tasked with setting up a T20 to access email from another ISP while dialed into AOL. I need to find out what AOL's SMTP server is. No amount of searching on AOL's site yields an answer. Any suggestions? The ISP does offer a web interface for mail, but the user wants to use his own email program, so he can access his addresses and such. Many thanks. -- -Mitch --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mitchell Leben Owner of epson-inkjet@leben.com mailing mitch@leben.com list for all Epson Inkjet Printers. Send http://www.leben.com/lists 'subscribe epson-inkjet' to majordomo@leben.com From cph Thu Jan 4 13:25:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA15483 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:25:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27773; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:25:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:24:00 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27496; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:24:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27482; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:23:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.49 -> mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:23:59 -0500 Received: from 600e300 ([12.79.2.83]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with ESMTP id <20010104182357.GYVR1543.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@600e300>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:23:57 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01c0767b$484350c0$9e72a7ac@600e300> From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "Mitchell Leben" , References: Subject: Re: AOL SMTP Server? Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:22:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 List-Unsubscribe: You would need to find out the settings for the Outlook Express Client from the ISP. I do this with AT&T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitchell Leben" To: Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 1:53 PM Subject: AOL SMTP Server? > Grrr, I just love dealing with AOL! > > I am tasked with setting up a T20 to access email from another ISP while > dialed into AOL. I need to find out what AOL's SMTP server is. No amount > of searching on AOL's site yields an answer. > > Any suggestions? > > The ISP does offer a web interface for mail, but the user wants to use his > own email program, so he can access his addresses and such. > > Many thanks. > > -- > -Mitch > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > Mitchell Leben Owner of epson-inkjet@leben.com mailing > mitch@leben.com list for all Epson Inkjet Printers. Send > http://www.leben.com/lists 'subscribe epson-inkjet' to majordomo@leben.com > > From cph Thu Jan 4 13:29:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA15506 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:29:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28611; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:29:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:28:16 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28285; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:28:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28272; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:28:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (216.155.0.8 -> trinity.magpage.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:28:14 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (pm3-12-7.phl.magpage.com [216.155.62.112]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f04IS9l02829; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:28:09 -0500 From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Mitchell Leben" Cc: "Thinkpad List" Subject: RE: AOL SMTP Server? Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:31:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: Email to: domains@aol.net will get you the info you need. Regards, James > -----Original Message----- > From: Mitchell Leben [mailto:mitch@leben.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 1:53 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: AOL SMTP Server? > > > Grrr, I just love dealing with AOL! > > I am tasked with setting up a T20 to access email from another ISP while > dialed into AOL. I need to find out what AOL's SMTP server is. No amount > of searching on AOL's site yields an answer. > > Any suggestions? > > The ISP does offer a web interface for mail, but the user wants to use his > own email program, so he can access his addresses and such. > > Many thanks. > > -- > -Mitch > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mitchell Leben Owner of epson-inkjet@leben.com mailing > mitch@leben.com list for all Epson Inkjet Printers. Send > http://www.leben.com/lists 'subscribe epson-inkjet' to majordomo@leben.com > > From cph Thu Jan 4 13:45:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA15686 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:45:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00797; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:45:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:43:31 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00470; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:43:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00457; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:43:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdl.com (206.180.224.3 -> tdl.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:43:29 -0500 Received: from chuck (pm5-106.tdl.com [206.180.234.106]) by tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16212 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:43:26 -0800 From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:43:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: AOL SMTP Server? Reply-to: cblaisd@tdl.com Message-ID: <3A5453C9.6437.4C44F2@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) List-Unsubscribe: No can do. AOL doesn't allow this. Grr indeed. Chuck Blaisdell On 4 Jan 2001, at 12:53, Mitchell Leben wrote: > Grrr, I just love dealing with AOL! > > I am tasked with setting up a T20 to access email from another ISP while > dialed into AOL. I need to find out what AOL's SMTP server is. No amount > of searching on AOL's site yields an answer. > > Any suggestions? > > The ISP does offer a web interface for mail, but the user wants to use his > own email program, so he can access his addresses and such. > > Many thanks. > > -- > -Mitch > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mitchell Leben Owner of epson-inkjet@leben.com mailing > mitch@leben.com list for all Epson Inkjet Printers. Send > http://www.leben.com/lists 'subscribe epson-inkjet' to majordomo@leben.com > > > From cph Thu Jan 4 13:47:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA15729 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:47:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01681; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:47:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:46:02 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01167; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from spock.leben.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01075; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:45:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from spock.leben.com (209.44.133.26 -> 209-44-133-26.pdq.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:45:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (mitch@localhost) by spock.leben.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29730; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:26:24 -0600 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:26:24 -0600 (CST) From: Mitchell Leben To: Bruce Markowitz cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: AOL SMTP Server? In-Reply-To: <001c01c0767b$484350c0$9e72a7ac@600e300> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Bruce, The problem with that is that the ISP refuses connections for outgoing email when coming from an outside source (such as an AOL dialup). I did follow the suggestion to contact domains@aol.net (thanks James) and will share any information with this list. On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Bruce Markowitz wrote: > You would need to find out the settings for the Outlook Express Client from > the ISP. I do this with AT&T > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mitchell Leben" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 1:53 PM > Subject: AOL SMTP Server? > > > > Grrr, I just love dealing with AOL! > > > > I am tasked with setting up a T20 to access email from another ISP while > > dialed into AOL. I need to find out what AOL's SMTP server is. No amount > > of searching on AOL's site yields an answer. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > The ISP does offer a web interface for mail, but the user wants to use his > > own email program, so he can access his addresses and such. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > -- > > -Mitch > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > Mitchell Leben Owner of epson-inkjet@leben.com mailing > > mitch@leben.com list for all Epson Inkjet Printers. Send > > http://www.leben.com/lists 'subscribe epson-inkjet' to > majordomo@leben.com > > > > > -- -Mitch --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mitchell Leben Owner of epson-inkjet@leben.com mailing mitch@leben.com list for all Epson Inkjet Printers. Send http://www.leben.com/lists 'subscribe epson-inkjet' to majordomo@leben.com From cph Thu Jan 4 14:13:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA15926 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:13:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04722; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:13:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:11:50 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04534; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailcore4.oh.voyager.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04517; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailcore4.oh.voyager.net (207.90.100.18 -> mailcore4.oh.voyager.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:11:48 -0500 Received: from daveb (d317.as1.clmb.oh.voyager.net [216.28.53.61]) by mailcore4.oh.voyager.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA77118 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:11:46 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Dave W. Beauvais" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: RE: AOL SMTP Server? Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:11:50 -0500 Keywords: Miscellaneous Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: You could try this... run your own SMTP server. I do this on my laptops because it's so convenient. When on the go, it's hard to tell what type of Internet connection I'll have, but in the past, it almost always meant setting up new e-mail accounts in Outlook or modifying existing ones to send through a different SMTP server. Running my own server, I have a single account set to send mail through the server "localhost". The mail is sent from my own computer's SMTP server no matter what network I'm connected to. Very handy solution! Win2K has this feature built-in in the form of IIS's SMTP service, if you install it. On my Win98-based laptop, I use a program called "Advanced Direct Remailer" from http://www.mailutilities.com/adr/ . It's US$40 to register, but there's a 30-day trial period to see if it works for you. There may be cheaper servers available, but I liked the security features offered by this app. You just configure it, set it to load with Windows, and it sits there as an icon in the tray. Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Mitchell Leben [mailto:mitch@leben.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 02:26 PM > > Bruce, > > The problem with that is that the ISP refuses > connections for outgoing email when coming from > an outside source (such as an AOL dialup). > > I did follow the suggestion to contact > domains@aol.net (thanks James) and will share > any information with this list. > [snip] From cph Thu Jan 4 15:22:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA16473 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:22:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12006; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:21:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:19:05 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11544; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:19:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11517; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:18:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (209.228.33.206 -> c007-h000.c007.snv.cp.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:18:53 -0500 Received: (cpmta 3244 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2001 12:12:40 -0800 Received: from pantano.theriver.com (205.216.137.2) by smtp.test.theriver.com (209.228.33.206) with SMTP; 4 Jan 2001 12:12:40 -0800 X-Sent: 4 Jan 2001 20:12:40 GMT Received: from theriver.com (a47.pm3-52.theriver.com [208.164.102.63]) by pantano.theriver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709DD25C9E; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:12:35 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <386FB0AE.71AC0FF1@theriver.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 13:10:22 -0700 From: Ray Bay X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD475 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mitchell Leben Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: AOL SMTP Server? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: I called AOL on this issue a few days ago... on the 29th to be exact... they wouldn't tell me... said they had lots of them and if I was a registered member, I didn't need the DNS, or SMTP addresses... Ray From cph Thu Jan 4 15:36:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA16545 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:36:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13491; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:36:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:34:40 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13227; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:34:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13213; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:34:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (216.155.0.8 -> trinity.magpage.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:34:36 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (pm3-12-7.phl.magpage.com [216.155.62.112]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f04KYRl29845; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:34:27 -0500 From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Ray Bay" , "Mitchell Leben" Cc: Subject: RE: AOL SMTP Server? Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:37:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <386FB0AE.71AC0FF1@theriver.com> List-Unsubscribe: DNS is easy, not a big help though. Domain servers: dns-01.ns.aol.com 152.163.159.232 dns-02.ns.aol.com 205.188.157.232 Seems to me that I went through this long ago and the answer wound up being "you can't do that!". I fear Chuck will be proven correct that it's not allowed. Regards, James > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Bay [mailto:canyonlands@theriver.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 3:10 PM > To: Mitchell Leben > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: AOL SMTP Server? > > > I called AOL on this issue a few days ago... on the 29th to be > exact... they wouldn't tell me... said they had lots of them and if I > was a registered member, I didn't need the DNS, or SMTP addresses... > > > Ray From cph Thu Jan 4 15:43:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA16601 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:43:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14588; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:41:29 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14291; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:41:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14272; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:41:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (216.155.0.8 -> trinity.magpage.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:41:27 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (pm3-12-7.phl.magpage.com [216.155.62.112]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f04KfGl00615; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:41:16 -0500 From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Ray Bay" , "Mitchell Leben" Cc: Subject: RE: AOL SMTP Server? Redux Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:44:13 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <386FB0AE.71AC0FF1@theriver.com> List-Unsubscribe: Searched back through some old mail and found the mail servers, but I doubt if they'd be of any help to anyone. aol.com mail is handled (pri=15) by xa.mx.aol.com aol.com mail is handled (pri=15) by xb.mx.aol.com aol.com mail is handled (pri=15) by xd.mx.aol.com aol.com mail is handled (pri=15) by za.mx.aol.com aol.com mail is handled (pri=15) by zb.mx.aol.com aol.com mail is handled (pri=15) by zc.mx.aol.com aol.com mail is handled (pri=15) by zd.mx.aol.com aol.com mail is handled (pri=15) by yb.mx.aol.com aol.com mail is handled (pri=15) by yc.mx.aol.com aol.com mail is handled (pri=15) by yd.mx.aol.com aol.com mail is handled (pri=15) by ye.mx.aol.com aol.com mail is handled (pri=15) by yg.mx.aol.com aol.com mail is handled (pri=15) by yh.mx.aol.com Regards, James > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Bay [mailto:canyonlands@theriver.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 3:10 PM > To: Mitchell Leben > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: AOL SMTP Server? > > > I called AOL on this issue a few days ago... on the 29th to be > exact... they wouldn't tell me... said they had lots of them and if I > was a registered member, I didn't need the DNS, or SMTP addresses... > > > Ray From cph Thu Jan 4 15:50:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA16656 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:50:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15966; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:49:08 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15756; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15743; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:49:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk (194.247.47.48 -> irwell.zetnet.co.uk) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:49:04 -0500 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (man-a099.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.44.99]) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id UAA26990; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 20:48:48 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: irwell.zetnet.co.uk: Host man-a099.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.44.99] claimed to be zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <3A54E13D.667388E1@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 20:46:55 +0000 From: Chris Carter-Bown X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Laptop battery failure on TP 600e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id PAA15966 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id PAA16657 Hi people, Hope you may be able to shed some light on this. I have a 3 year old TP600e, with original battery. Been very careful with it but now I think it's died. But I need to be sure before I part with �170 (sterling) for a new one. So - the amber light is continually flashing. In power meter the battery icon has a red diagonal line through it and 0% showing. Despite leaving it on mains but not powered up the battery will not take any charge. This situation happened very quickly, over a few days, although I have been getting progressivly less running time over the last 6 months or so. Thank you for your attentions. Regards, Chris Carter-Bown. From cph Thu Jan 4 16:11:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA17163 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:11:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18621; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:10:12 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18282; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:10:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18269; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (194.29.192.20 -> netsonic.fi) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:10:09 -0500 Received: from TP560X (letku107.adsl.netsonic.fi [194.29.195.107]) by nalle.netsonic.fi (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f04L9xQ15051 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:09:59 +0200 Message-Id: <200101042109.f04L9xQ15051@nalle.netsonic.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 23:09:55 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3A54E13D.667388E1@zetnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: Laptop battery failure on TP 600e Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.2 List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cs.utk.edu id QAA18621 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zurich.ai.mit.edu id QAA17164 On Thu, 04 Jan 2001 at 08:46 PM you, Chris Carter-Bown , said: >Hope you may be able to shed some light on this. I have a 3 year old >TP600e, with original battery. Been very careful with it but now I think >it's died. But I need to be >sure before I part with �170 (sterling) for a new one. This sounds like a lot of money to me. I was able to buy a brand-new TP600 battery on eBay for USD 86 last month. Even with shipping and v.a.t., it's still way cheaper than GBP 170. Some people have their original batteries reconditioned; I'm not sure whether its worthwile, but it's likey to be much cheaper than buying a new battery. -Dominique From cph Thu Jan 4 16:16:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA17209 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:16:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19516; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:16:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:14:58 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19176; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from spock.leben.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19163; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from spock.leben.com (209.44.133.26 -> 209-44-133-26.pdq.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:14:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (mitch@localhost) by spock.leben.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02082; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:55:39 -0600 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:55:39 -0600 (CST) From: Mitchell Leben To: "James H. E. Maugham" cc: Ray Bay , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: AOL SMTP Server? Redux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I came across those also, no joy. On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, James H. E. Maugham wrote: > Searched back through some old mail and found the mail servers, but I doubt if > they'd be of any help to anyone. > > aol.com mail is handled (pri=15) by xa.mx.aol.com From cph Thu Jan 4 16:30:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA17327 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:30:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21394; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:29:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:26:15 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20954; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:26:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20935; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:26:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (64.4.31.167 -> f167.pav1.hotmail.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:26:13 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:26:11 -0800 Received: from 172.146.40.111 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 04 Jan 2001 21:26:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.146.40.111] From: "laptop loot" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: password Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 21:26:11 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2001 21:26:11.0529 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5ABD390:01C07694] List-Unsubscribe: any one know how to remove passwords off a tp 600 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From cph Thu Jan 4 17:15:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA17754 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:15:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25731; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:13:09 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25486; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:13:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25473; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:13:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (204.127.131.48 -> mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:13:08 -0500 Received: from 600e300 ([24.185.88.209]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with ESMTP id <20010104221307.NLN28650.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@600e300>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 22:13:07 +0000 Message-ID: <002001c0769b$4b915cc0$0200a8c0@Domain> From: "Bruce Markowitz" To: "laptop loot" , References: Subject: Re: password Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:11:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 List-Unsubscribe: If you are speaking of an unknown password, the best way is to return the laptop to the rightful owner ----- Original Message ----- From: "laptop loot" To: Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: password > any one know how to remove passwords off a tp 600 > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > From cph Thu Jan 4 17:34:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA17950 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:34:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28517; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:34:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:32:52 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28228; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28189; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:32:40 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.240 -> mta6.snfc21.pbi.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:32:40 -0500 Received: from Portege.rahul.net ([63.193.246.11]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G6N000FWT426Y@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:28:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 14:30:20 -0800 Subject: Thinkpad X20 Win2K problem report X-Sender: mercer@pop.rahul.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010104133023.02e1e5b0@spies.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I'm having a hard time making a new Thinkpad X20 work reliably with Windows 2000. Resuming from Stand-by will often hang with a black screen and a blinking text underline cursor in the upper right hand corner. This problem has been mentioned in the IBM support forum with no satisfactory answer so far. Unfortunately, until this works reliably, the machine is essentially useless to me since I can't trust it to stand-by and not lose work. The stock Win98 configuration does not have this problem but Win98 is not appropriate for my development work. The configuration is a stock Win2K retail install plus service pack 1. I am running all the latest software/drivers/BIOS according to the IBM X20 driver matrix: http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/MIGR-4LXTHS.html Through painful trial and error, I have found that the latest 3Com Ethernet driver will hang the machine on boot after SP1 is installed. It also appears to cause the Resume bug to occur more frequently. One annoyance is that IBM does not include a restore CD with the X20. A restore partition is installed on the drive and eats up 500MB. I would like to obtain an IBM factory restore CD so that I can create a baseline Win2K environment to test against. If anyone can help me obtain this CD, I would be much obliged. IBM tech support (800-772-2227) will send X20 owners a CD upon request. This is to accommodate users that upgrade their hard drives. I'll will send a full report on my experience to the list once the dust settles. mercer@rahul.net From cph Thu Jan 4 17:34:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA17951 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:34:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28522; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:34:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:32:32 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28096; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28066; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:32:28 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.240 -> mta6.snfc21.pbi.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:32:29 -0500 Received: from Portege.rahul.net ([63.193.246.11]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G6N000FWT426Y@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:28:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 14:30:13 -0800 Subject: Thinkpad X20 quick review X-Sender: mercer@pop.rahul.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010104135211.02e20460@spies.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: I took delivery of a new Thinkpad X20 one week ago. Model 2662-36U. Win98 and 3Com Ethernet. I chose this model because I understood that the 3Com modem was not a software based modem (I have not actually confirmed this.) The corresponding model bundled with Win2K was not in stock. Here's some constructive criticism that might help others considering purchase of this machine. I have upgraded the machine to Win2K SP1 and updated all the drivers according to the IBM driver matrix (http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/MIGR-4LXTHS.html). No other software or hardware has been installed on this machine since I have been able to make it work reliably yet. - No power switch accessible with the screen closed. Less convenient to use as a desktop replacement with an external monitor. I am told the port replicator has a power switch so that would alleviate this problem. I noticed the current small Sony (SR7K) has the same design oversight, which factored into my decision to purchase the X20 over the Sony. Does anyone know if the Ultrabase X2 has a power switch? - No visible power-on LED when screen is closed. Again, inconvenient for users primarily using external displays. Likewise for the hard drive activity light. - No utility to access FN keys from an external keyboard. Toshiba and Dell both have this feature. Again, very inconvenient for users that prefer to keep the display close when used in a desktop environment. IBM, please add a utility to do this. - Unreliable operation under Windows 2000 in the area of stand-by/resume. This makes the machine unusable for me. See my previous post for more details. - Upon a successful Resume, the screen (internal and external) remains blank until the mouse is moved or a key is pressed. A minor bug but obvious bug. How did this get through QA? - The BIOS is now made by Phoenix. Slow to boot compared to Toshiba and Dell. Cannot boot from PCMCIA CD-ROMs. Hopefully IBM will continue to enhance the BIOS. - No restore CD -- there is a built-in 500MB restore partition. Also, a prompt at boot time asks to press F11 to perform a factory restore. This slows down the already slow boot process. I imagine the prompt can be disabled by deleting the restore partition. - Only one DIMM slot, already populated with a 64MB module, making it expensive to expand beyond 192MB. - FN-F3 to turn off the display is slow - it brings up a status window! Hopefully this will be fixed with a software upgrade. - Closing the lid only turns off the backlight, doesn't actually turn off the display. Fixable with new software. - Soft "rubber" paint is hard to keep clean. A subjective issue. - Build quality seems to be a notch below the 600. - No Windows keys. All Thinkpads are like this. Some sort of IBM quirk. I chose this machine over the Sony SR7K due to IBM's greater range of expansion options and what I thought to be superior system software (drivers, BIOS). So far, the system software has been a serious disappointment. While there is much to like about the machine, overall, I am fairly disappointed with the X20, given my past positive experience with the Thinkpad 600. I am going to stick with this machine for a while longer to see if I can find a work around to the Stand-by/Resume problem. mercer@rahul.net From cph Thu Jan 4 18:01:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA18227 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:01:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03134; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:01:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:59:38 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02952; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:59:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from fw1.uhc.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02936; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from fw1.uhc.com (168.183.16.135 -> gw.uhc.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:59:32 -0500 Received: from fw1.uhc.com (root@localhost) by fw1.uhc.com with ESMTP id QAA19374 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:59:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from dts-jl (DTS_JL.uhc.com [10.145.185.103]) by fw1.uhc.com with SMTP id QAA19370 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:59:27 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20010104180147.00b12100@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jloyless@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 18:01:47 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: Thinkpad X20 quick review In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010104135211.02e20460@spies.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: At 02:30 PM 01/04/2001 -0800, mercer@rahul.net wrote: > - No Windows keys. All Thinkpads are like this. Some sort of IBM quirk. > I, for one, am happy that IBM has resisted adding the Windows keys to their excellent keyboard. I've been working with a Compaq notebook this afternoon that has the extra keys, and they just take up too much real estate causing other keys which are more useful to me to be smaller. From cph Thu Jan 4 18:10:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA18318 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:10:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04587; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:10:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:08:47 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04414; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04401; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:08:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (216.155.0.8 -> trinity.magpage.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:08:46 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (pm3-12-7.phl.magpage.com [216.155.62.112]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f04N8gm28999; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:08:43 -0500 From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "laptop loot" , Subject: RE: password Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:11:41 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: When prompted for the password, enter it but add a space at the end and _then_ hit enter. Next time you boot the system the password will be gone. Regards, James > -----Original Message----- > From: laptop loot [mailto:laptoploot@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 4:26 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: password > > > any one know how to remove passwords off a tp 600 > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > From cph Thu Jan 4 19:34:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA18964 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:34:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11322; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:34:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:31:34 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11015; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11005; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:31:33 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.36 -> imo-d04.mx.aol.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:31:33 -0500 Received: from Kernow62@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id o.44.a268362 (4005) for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:31:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <44.a268362.27866fe2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:31:30 EST Subject: (no subject) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 128 List-Unsubscribe: subscribe From cph Thu Jan 4 19:53:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA19074 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:53:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12786; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:52:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:51:24 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12585; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:51:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from out5.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12572; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:51:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from out5.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (169.207.2.77 -> out5.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:51:22 -0500 Received: from mx4.mx.voyager.net (mx4.mx.voyager.net [216.93.66.83]) by out5.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f050pLt91123 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:51:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from erichknobil (max2-72.milwaukeeusx.corecomm.net [216.214.113.72]) by mx4.mx.voyager.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f050pKi88249 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:51:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Erich Knobil" To: "TP List" Subject: RE: Refurb T20 - any opinions? Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:59:54 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20010102104132.0251efc0@pop3.iceka.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: I have no experience with the refurbs, but I love the T20. I've had larger and smaller notebooks (Toshibas), and this particular set of compromises seems just about right for me. -- Erich > -----Original Message----- > From: Randal Whittle [mailto:rwhittle@usa.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 12:44 PM > To: Mitchell Yee; TP List > Subject: Re: Refurb T20 - any opinions? > > > At 09:50 AM 1/2/2001 -0800, you wrote: > >This seems like a good deal. Before I make the leap, does > >anyone have any comments about refurb T20s? I wish it had W2K preinstalled, > >but I'll live. > > > >http://www2.warehouse.com/product.asp?dept%5Fid=1738&cat=clr&pf%5Fid=RCP1621 > >2&blind=no > > > >Mitchell > > If I'm not mistaken...that's my machine! I think its worth it and > if I had a desire for another one, would definitely consider it very seriously. > > ...unless you want one of those higher-res. screens--can't argue > much with that. > > As for Win2K--install it yourself after-the-fact. I like having > 98 as an option and prefer the dual-boot (but boot into Win2K 98% of the time). > > - Randy > > ------- > From cph Thu Jan 4 23:20:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA20317 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:20:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25621; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:20:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:17:43 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25320; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:17:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25307; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:17:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.magpage.com (216.155.0.8 -> trinity.magpage.com) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:17:41 -0500 Received: from JU0ME6YLHW1Z6M (pm3-12-7.phl.magpage.com [216.155.62.112]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f054Hdm32200 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:17:39 -0500 From: "James H. E. Maugham" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: Anybody Looking For a HD? Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:20:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: None of these offers are particularly earth shattering, but Louie has some decent drives available for some decent prices. 6GB IDE 2.5 X .5 FUJITSU LP HARD DRIVE - $105.00 ITEM#...MHK2060AT http://www.hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=7&sku=MHK2060AT 4.8GB IDE 2.5 X .5 FUJITSU LP HARD DRIVE - $89.00 ITEM#...MHK2048AT http://www.hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=7&sku=MHK2048AT 3.2GB IDE 2.5 X .5 13MS IBM HARD DRIVE - $59.00 ITEM#...DKLA-23240 http://www.hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=7&sku=DKLA%2D23240 3.2GB IDE 2.5 X .5 13MS LAPTOP HARD DRIVE - $59.00 ITEM#...MK3212MAT http://www.hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=7&sku=MK3212MAT 3.2GB IDE 2.5 X .5 13MS HARD DRIVE - $59.00 ITEM#...DK237A-32 http://www.hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=7&sku=DK237A%2D32 2.1GB IDE 2.5 X .7 12MS IBM HARD DRIVE DCRA-22110 - $49.00 ITEM#...DCRA-22110 http://www.hitechcafe.com/eshop/inproduct.asp?dept%5Fid=7&sku=DCRA%2D22110 The Fujitsu 6GB are new with a 1 year warranty and are a very nice replacement drive for older Thinkpads, I have several running in 755 series machines which are rejuvenated when compared to the 810MB or 1.2GB drives that were commonly replaced. No connection with Louie other than being a very happy customer who enjoys receiving the jelly beans. Regards, James From cph Thu Jan 4 23:29:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA20350 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:29:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26600; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:27:57 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26407; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:27:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from spock.leben.com (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26388; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from spock.leben.com (209.44.133.26 -> 209-44-133-26.pdq.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:27:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (mitch@localhost) by spock.leben.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA21598; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:08:49 -0600 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:08:49 -0600 (CST) From: Mitchell Leben To: "Dave W. Beauvais" cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: RE: AOL SMTP Server? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: Thanks Dave, great suggestion. I read up on ADR. It does much more than I need in this case. Do you know of anything that just handles SMTP duties? My thinking is to Keep It Simple. BTW my search for SMTP via AOL was fruitless. Another thought. Are there any pay per use SMTP services? I never heard of such a thing, but it seems there is a need. No idea on how it would work. On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Dave W. Beauvais wrote: > you install it. On my Win98-based laptop, I use a program called > "Advanced Direct Remailer" from http://www.mailutilities.com/adr/ . -- -Mitch --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mitchell Leben Owner of epson-inkjet@leben.com mailing mitch@leben.com list for all Epson Inkjet Printers. Send http://www.leben.com/lists 'subscribe epson-inkjet' to majordomo@leben.com From cph Thu Jan 4 23:37:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA20382 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:37:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27597; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:37:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:35:56 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27356; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27343; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:35:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (207.115.63.102 -> pimout3-ext.prodigy.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:35:54 -0500 Received: from chuck (adsl-63-201-80-217.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.80.217]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f054ZqP77750 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:35:52 -0500 From: "Chuck Blaisdell" To: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 20:35:45 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: AOL SMTP Server? Reply-to: chuck@ccncn.org Message-ID: <3A54DEA1.56.B59DFF@localhost> Priority: normal References: In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) List-Unsubscribe: On 4 Jan 2001, at 23:08, Mitchell Leben wrote: > I read up on ADR. It does much more than I need in this case. Do you know > of anything that just handles SMTP duties? My thinking is to Keep It > Simple. > > BTW my search for SMTP via AOL was fruitless. The downloads section of http://www.zdnet.com lists several smtp server programs. Do a search on smtp server or smtp server free Chuck From cph Fri Jan 5 00:25:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA20939 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:25:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01858; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:25:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:23:55 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01568; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01555; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:23:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (128.135.12.12 -> midway.uchicago.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:23:53 -0500 Received: from ZOE (w098.z064001236.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.236.98]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f055Nqh05183 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:23:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 21:24:27 -0800 From: Jim Kreines X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Reply-To: jk X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <12334735592.20010104212427@midway.uchicago.edu> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Help with memory expanion for TP560 2640-10U Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Can anyone help me figure out the memory expansion options for my TP560 2640-10U. I have seen conflicting accounts. IBM's site seems to suggest that the max is 40mb (8 + 32 expansion). But Kingston's site http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/kepler/ModelsInfo_Bod.asp?SysID=+3796+&distributor=0&submit=Find suggests I can expand to 70mb (8+64 expansion). Can anyone help? Anyone running this model with 70mb? thanks, jk Jim Kreines mailto:jkreines@midway.uchicago.edu From cph Fri Jan 5 00:26:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA20950 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:26:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02236; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:26:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:25:19 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01725; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:25:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01711; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:25:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (209.228.33.206 -> c007-h000.c007.snv.cp.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:25:13 -0500 Received: (cpmta 14621 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2001 21:25:11 -0800 Received: from pantano.theriver.com (205.216.137.2) by smtp.test.theriver.com (209.228.33.206) with SMTP; 4 Jan 2001 21:25:11 -0800 X-Sent: 5 Jan 2001 05:25:11 GMT Received: from theriver.com (a10.pm3-16.theriver.com [208.164.96.122]) by pantano.theriver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A9725C9C; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 22:25:09 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3A555AE8.3F78062D@theriver.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 22:26:00 -0700 From: Ray Bay Organization: Canyonlands Publishing Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-NSCPCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James H. E. Maugham" Cc: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Anybody Looking For a HD? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: How do you figger out which Fujitsu hard drives fit which IBM lap tops... I have purchased the wrong hard drives many times... The descriptions are inadequate on www.hitechcafe.com Ray From cph Fri Jan 5 00:32:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA20983 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:32:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03262; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:31:18 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02913; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02899; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:31:16 -0500 Received: from vonbraunw (tspsl2-307.gate.net [199.227.131.116]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA115684; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:30:59 -0500 Message-ID: <001501c076d8$bb136d80$9640fea9@vonbraunw> From: "Bill Morrow" To: "jk" , References: <12334735592.20010104212427@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: Re: Help with memory expanion for TP560 2640-10U Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:31:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: ibm's info is old.. Cordially, :-) Bill Morrow WEB page http://thinkpads.com thinkpads.com Open Forum http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? E-Mail: bill at thinkpads dot com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Kreines" To: Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 12:24 AM Subject: Help with memory expanion for TP560 2640-10U > Can anyone help me figure out the memory expansion options for my > TP560 2640-10U. I have seen conflicting accounts. IBM's site seems to > suggest that the max is 40mb (8 + 32 expansion). But Kingston's site > > http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/kepler/ModelsInfo_Bod.asp?SysID=+3796+&distr ibutor=0&submit=Find > > suggests I can expand to 70mb (8+64 expansion). > > Can anyone help? Anyone running this model with 70mb? > > thanks, > jk > > Jim Kreines > mailto:jkreines@midway.uchicago.edu > > > From cph Fri Jan 5 00:33:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA20988 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:33:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03763; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03136; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03107; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from nalle.netsonic.fi (194.29.192.20 -> netsonic.fi) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:32:05 -0500 Received: from TP560X (letku107.adsl.netsonic.fi [194.29.195.107]) by nalle.netsonic.fi (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f055W2Q18218 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:32:02 +0200 Message-Id: <200101050532.f055W2Q18218@nalle.netsonic.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 07:31:58 +0200 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <12334735592.20010104212427@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: Re: Help with memory expanion for TP560 2640-10U X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.2 List-Unsubscribe: I have owned a TP560/120Mhz that had 8 + 64 =72 MB of RAM installed. I believe the IBM site mentions 40 MB as the maximum size, because 32 MB was the largest module available for that machine at the time. -Dominique On Thu, 04 Jan 2001 at 09:24 PM you, Jim Kreines , said: >Can anyone help me figure out the memory expansion options for my TP560 >2640-10U. I have seen conflicting accounts. IBM's site seems to suggest >that the max is 40mb (8 + 32 expansion). But Kingston's site >http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/kepler/ModelsInfo_Bod.asp?SysID=+3796+&distributor=0&submit=Find >suggests I can expand to 70mb (8+64 expansion). >Can anyone help? Anyone running this model with 70mb? >thanks, >jk From cph Fri Jan 5 00:34:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA20993 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:34:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03649; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:33:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:32:03 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03091; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:32:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03078; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:32:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from flathead.gate.net (216.219.246.5 -> flathead.gate.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:32:02 -0500 Received: from vonbraunw (tspsl2-307.gate.net [199.227.131.116]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA142978; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:31:36 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01c076d8$d16981a0$9640fea9@vonbraunw> From: "Bill Morrow" To: "Ray Bay" , "James H. E. Maugham" Cc: "Thinkpad List" References: <3A555AE8.3F78062D@theriver.com> Subject: Re: Anybody Looking For a HD? Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:31:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: what do you want to know.. ? Cordially, :-) Bill Morrow WEB page http://thinkpads.com thinkpads.com Open Forum http://www.afaonline.com:8080/webboard/$webb.exe/~2/login? E-Mail: bill at thinkpads dot com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Bay" To: "James H. E. Maugham" Cc: "Thinkpad List" Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 12:26 AM Subject: Re: Anybody Looking For a HD? > How do you figger out which Fujitsu hard drives fit which IBM lap > tops... I have purchased the wrong hard drives many times... The > descriptions are inadequate on www.hitechcafe.com > > Ray > From cph Fri Jan 5 00:47:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA21039 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:47:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05909; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:46:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:45:07 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05378; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:45:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from thor.oit.pdx.edu (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05364; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:45:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from thor.oit.pdx.edu (131.252.120.40 -> thor.oit.pdx.edu) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:45:04 -0500 Received: from freke.odin.pdx.edu (freke.odin.pdx.edu [131.252.120.43]) by thor.oit.pdx.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f055j3026573 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 21:45:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ain@localhost) by freke.odin.pdx.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f055j3q24295 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 21:45:03 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: freke.odin.pdx.edu: ain owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 21:45:03 -0800 (PST) From: Ain Vale X-X-Sender: To: Subject: 760EL PCMCIA problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: I'm new to the list, and I'm wondering if a problem I have with my TP is a common one. I bought the machine used, and I have never been able to get the PCMCIA slot to work with a memory card. (It works fine with a modem.) OS is Windows (natch)-- 98 currently, but it had the same problem under 95. On inserting the card, the plug-n-play stuff kicks in to install the standard hard drive driver. After that, the machine makes that "oops" sound, and a look through the hardware manager tells me nothing more than that it ain't working. Has anyone else had this difficulty? I apologize if it's been addressed here before, but I couldn't find an effective way to search the archives. Thanks, Ain From cph Fri Jan 5 00:59:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cs.utk.edu (cs.utk.edu [128.169.94.1]) by zurich.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA21107 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:59:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07138; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:58:14 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06918; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:58:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (marvin@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06905; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (207.115.63.101 -> pimout2-ext.prodigy.net) by cs.utk.edu (smtpshim v1.0); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:58:11 -0500 Received: from chuck (adsl-63-201-80-217.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.80.217]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f055wAQ148162 for