From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 01:31:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13951 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 01:31:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA12820; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:02:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:02:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA12813; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:02:47 -0500 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id JAA14075 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 09:02:56 +0200 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id JAA14091 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 09:02:24 +0200 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 09:02:24 +0200 Message-Id: <199403230702.JAA14091@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: akilpinen@finabo.abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: RE: Suspend modes X-Mailer: Status: OR >> Suspend does use a fair amount of battery power. Expecting it to last 30 >> hours is unrealistic. If you suspend then you should remember to plug in >> at night. > > I've put my machine in suspend for about 24 hours (I have a total >of 12MB RAM) and lost no more than 15 to 20% of battery juice. Seems to me >that conceivably, you could but it in suspend for 3 or 4 days and still >have some juice (assuming it was fully charged to begin with--though it >would definitely be due for a recharge!). > > Maybe your machine sucking up lots of power like his? > >> I personally find that hibernation (with 20 megs) takes about as long as >> a shut-down reboot, so I find it pretty painful and don't feel like wasting >> 20 megs of disk space on the feature. > I use a similar configurationd and the figures 15%/24h seem to apply for me too. Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University DataCity FIN-20520 Turku From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 01:31:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13979 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 01:31:15 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA12618; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:00:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:00:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA12610; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:00:29 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA08860 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 01:00:26 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403230700.AA08860@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Suspend modes To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 01:00:25 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <71705.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Mar 22, 94 07:54:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > The most likely is that the battery gauge was off when you put it into > suspend - it was reading 80% when there was really only 30% or something Frequently, it takes a while for my guage to get a proper reading... > The other possibility is that the TP just turned itself off. I've had this > happen a couple times too. My guess is that the computer misreads the Hmm..haven't heard that one yet. I'll be on the lookout for it. In case I didn't tell you guys, suspend and then a three finger salute (CTRL-ALT-DEL) still reboots without flushing... > 10 seconds to come out of hibernate? It's beginning to sound better and > better. I need a bigger hard drive... :) They need to develop on the fly compression for the hiberantion file. I know of at least one software program that can do it so I don't know why the TP shouldn't be able to... Other than that though, it isn't as bad as I had originally thought (especially with the BIOS 1.04). It hasn't failed on start up on me yet (fingers crossed), but it does still seem to have some problems (albeit small ones). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 02:32:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22337 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:32:52 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA16084; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:58:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:58:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA16077; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 02:58:46 -0500 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwilb16708; Wed, 23 Mar 94 02:58:56 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08816; Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:47:09 PST Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA17099; Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:58:36 PST Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10158; Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:57:11 PST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 94 23:57:11 PST From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9403230757.AA10158@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Suspend modes Status: OR I tested a little more and on an overnight suspend I only lost about 12%. Putting it back into suspend for another 5 hours only lost another 5%. This seems about right. I think the problem the other night may have been that I had the PCMCIA modem plugged in and this drained the battery. I thought suspend cut the PCMCIA power too, but perhaps not. --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 05:44:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18308 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 05:44:03 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA04381; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 06:05:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 06:05:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA04357; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 06:05:05 -0500 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (8.6.5:28/EUnetD-2.4.2.g) via EUnet id MAA19342; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 12:05:41 +0100 From: Klaus Eckhoff Date: Wed, 23 Mar 94 11:56:25 +0100 Message-Id: <9403231056.AA25792@osix.Materna.DE> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: high res on external monitor Status: OR > I have a TP750Cs with an external monitor. It's an IBM monitor, with the > letters 15P on the front. I'd like to run it in high res mode (1024x768), > but I can't seem to get it to work. The manual is confusing on this point. > Can someone help me do this? I have an external monitor running without any problems in 1024x768 mode. Here is the procedure for DOS/WIN. What you need to do initially: - check that c:\ibmvesa\vesa.exe is loaded in config.sys - cd c:\ibmvesa - set the monitor type with "vinstall" (or edit the frate.dat by hand) - cd c:\windows - call "setup" and set the monitor type to "TP750 1024x768" - reboot After this your TP is ready. Of course high resulution is only supported in MS-Windows and the internal LCD has to be switched off before you start windows. P.S. Be careful! Editing "frate.dat" by hand lets you set the refresh rate to 70 or 72 Hz even in high resolution mode. This is not supported by IBM. (Once I tried it and noticed some dithering on the sreen when moving the mouse). --- Klaus Eckhoff, Dr. Materna GmbH, D-44141 Dortmund, Germany, ke@Materna.DE From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 15:19:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22298 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:19:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA17752; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:39:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:39:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA17737; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:39:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (postman@localhost) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id PAA29703 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:31:54 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:30:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.14.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix11.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix11.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:30:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:30:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew A. Houghton" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: trackpoint II Status: OR Okay, I lied.. seems I mis-remembered a conversation over on the Toshiba forum of Compu$erve. The trackpoint is IBM's invention, licensed by Toshiba. The IBM uses strain gauges to sense pushing the stick, Toshiba decided to go with force sensitive resistors. No reason was given, besides mumble about "better technology." Sorry for misleading everyone, I humbly apologize, I'm eating my words even as I write this... See ya, Andrew From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 16:00:01 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10939 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:59:56 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA20508; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 16:15:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 16:15:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from csd36.cs.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA20497; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 16:15:45 -0500 Received: by csd36.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA05342; Wed, 23 Mar 94 16:15:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 94 16:15:43 -0500 From: kedem@csd36.cs.nyu.edu (Zvi Meir Kedem) Message-Id: <9403232115.AA05342@csd36.cs.nyu.edu> To: ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: "Andrew A. Houghton"'s message of Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:30:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: trackpoint II Reply-To: kedem@cs.nyu.edu Status: OR The trackpoint is IBM's invention, licensed by Toshiba. The IBM uses strain gauges to sense pushing the stick, Toshiba decided to go with force sensitive resistors. No reason was given, besides mumble about "better technology." Personal opinion: Toshiba's is much worse. --Zvi From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 23 16:28:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23268 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 16:28:34 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA23592; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 16:54:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 16:54:35 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA23580; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 16:54:33 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA08604 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:54:25 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403232154.AA08604@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Hibernation beeps & Rubber caps To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:54:23 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Rubber caps for our Trackpoint II can be had from IBM at an unbelievably reasonable price. I'm not sure of the exact price but it's something like $10-15 for a pack of 3-5 (yeah, pretty broad range, but it was late on C$ and I can't find the message anymore). Also, that annoying hibernation beeping can be controlled by the Sounds applet with OS/2. I don't know about Windows and DOS, but I would presume the Thinkpad applet under sounds for Win and the PS2.EXE for DOS. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 00:05:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22644 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:05:18 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA24207; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:44:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:44:56 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA24200; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:44:53 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA21888; Wed, 23 Mar 1994 21:43:35 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 21:45:39 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Reply-To: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Message-Id: <78339.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Who at IBM is in charge of TP750 stuff? Status: OR Looks like we might finally be seeing the TP750 support software available via ftp soon: ------------------------------ From: Ken Inoue xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Wed, 23 Mar 94 18:15:24 JST To: "John Kim" Subject: RE: Who at IBM is in charge of TP750 stuff? John: Our support engineer is in touch with the administrator of IBM's FTP site at watson.ibm.com. Please stay tuned. In the meantime, please try the IBM Help Center BBS if you are in a hurry. Re answering questions etc., as a matter of fact I am sysop of a couple ThinkPad related forums on IBM internal network and am getting about 10-20 queries a day right now, which pretty much occupies my spare time. Do you have any idea of what the message traffic volume might be if I decided to participate? .... Best regards, Ken Inoue -------------------------------- With the high level noise that comes through this mailing list (you know, useless chattering, like what I'm typing right now in parenthesis :) I don't think I'll ask him to consider joining, at least not until we have a bundled message option set up. What I can do is collect a bunch of questions (try to keep them short) and fire them off to him a few at a time. Just send them to me at (in preferential order): jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu Which reminds me, Keith, could you change my address on the mailing list to the first of the above two addresses? That's where I pick up my mail for my offline mail reader. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 02:49:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19027 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 02:49:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA04550; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 03:22:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 03:22:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA04542; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 03:22:33 -0500 From: Received: from buddy.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id AAA20386; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:22:43 -0800 Received: by buddy.ucsc.edu (8.6.8/4.7) id AAA20199; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:22:43 -0800 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:22:43 -0800 Message-Id: <199403240822.AAA20199@buddy.ucsc.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: SCSI connectors Status: OR Has anyone out there tried attaching SCSI devices to a TP750 without buying the docking station. I am looking at an ad for something called the Trantor connector. It attaches to the parallel port, and is supposed to work with SCSI CD-Roms, hard disks, tape drives, etc. Is this likely to be true? Would it be better to use a PCMCIA SCSI adapter card? Is the TP750 a SCSI system, and does it matter for this purpose? Any advice would be appreciated. Bob Meister From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 03:29:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21107 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 03:29:09 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id EAA07890; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 04:05:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 04:05:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id EAA07870; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 04:05:21 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA28265 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 94 04:01:54 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E1863D; Thu, 24 Mar 94 03:40:29 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Duracell Nickel Hydride From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.336489.700.0CE1863D@channel1.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 94 19:08:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Duracell Nickel Hydride Greetings.... Just saw an article concerning a Duracell Nickel Hydride rechargeble battery, that supposedly can be used it the 750c! The article claims that this battery has 40% LONGER SERVICE LIFE then any other laptop battery in the market today! Anyone know how true this is...and can the 750c use a third party battery? Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 09:14:39 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03584 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 09:14:35 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA04208; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 09:42:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 09:42:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hsdndev.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA04201; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 09:42:50 -0500 From: Received: from warren.med.harvard.edu by jenner.med.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09935; Thu, 24 Mar 94 09:40:25 -0500 Received: from ccMail by warren.med.harvard.edu id AA764530776 Thu, 24 Mar 94 09:39:36 EST Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 09:39:36 EST Message-Id: <9402247645.AA764530776@warren.med.harvard.edu> To: meister@cats.ucsc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: SCSI connectors Status: OR See original note below. I have had great luck with the Trantor parallel-to-SCSI model II last year connecting a Toshiba T4400C to a cd-rom drive under DOS/windows. I have no reservations about reccommending TRANTOR. On the other hand, just before buying my thinkpad, I tried (ie bought) a Marlin/SyQuest bernoulli disk drive with a parallel-to-SCSI adapter and it didn't work at all. The company admitted that the power supply in the drive wasn't up to task and offered to upgrade it. I had the product less than 24 hours, 4 of which reading their manual, following their instructions, calling them, and otherwise wasting my time. I had lost confidence and returned it. Bottom line for me: I would use Trantor before others. One problem with using parallel port adapter is your printer access may not work despite the 'pass-thru'. Pass thru typically does not support bi-directional transfer which laser printers now take advantage of. [46] From: meister@cats.ucsc.edu 3/24/94 4:22AM (697 bytes: 9 n To: CS.UTK.EDU!tp750 at HMS-Internet Subject: SCSI connectors -----------------original------ Message Contents Has anyone out there tried attaching SCSI devices to a TP750 without buying the docking station. I am looking at an ad for something called the Trantor connector. It attaches to the parallel port, and is supposed to work with SCSI CD-Roms, hard disks, tape drives, etc. Is this likely to be true? Would it be better to use a PCMCIA SCSI adapter card? Is the TP750 a SCSI system, and does it matter for this purpose? Any advice would be appreciated. Bob Meister From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 09:58:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17810 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 09:58:30 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA07765; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 10:31:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 10:31:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ftp.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA07758; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 10:31:24 -0500 Received: from wco.ftp.com by ftp.com ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 10:31:35 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 07:29:25 PST Message-Id: <9403241529.AA15786@mailhost.wco.ftp.com> Received: from vida202 (vida202.wco.ftp.com) by mailhost.wco.ftp.com; Thu, 24 Mar 94 07:29:26 PST X-Sender: veizades@128.127.203.200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: veizades@ftp.com (John Veizades) Subject: Re: SCSI connectors X-Mailer: Status: OR At 12:22 AM 3/24/94 -0800, meister@cats.ucsc.edu wrote: > >Has anyone out there tried attaching SCSI devices to a TP750 without >buying the docking station. I am looking at an ad for something called >the Trantor connector. It attaches to the parallel port, and is supposed >to work with SCSI CD-Roms, hard disks, tape drives, etc. Is this likely >to be true? Would it be better to use a PCMCIA SCSI adapter card? Is >the TP750 a SCSI system, and does it matter for this purpose? >Any advice would be appreciated. I have used this device to connect a scsi drive to my 750. Very easy to use and install. Not blindingly fast but acceptable. The best feature is that you can use it on several machince including desktop systems whereas the PCMCIA solutons are pretty limited to laptops. The device has already been used on about four machine in my office and paid for itself. John Veizades... FTP Software From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 11:46:18 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03375 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 11:46:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA15605; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 12:21:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 12:21:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA15598; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 12:21:55 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA22154 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 11:21:52 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403241721.AA22154@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: More on hibernation/suspend beep To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 11:21:51 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9403240125.AA04658@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu> from "Robert Castles" at Mar 23, 94 08:25:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > Also, that annoying hibernation beeping can be controlled by > > the Sounds applet with OS/2. I don't know about Windows and > > Please be more specific. I cannot find the hibernation mode as a System event > in the Sound application. Ah, my bust. Specifically, under OS/2, go to the Sounds applet and uncheck the 'Power Control Beep' alarm. I would assume that it's comparable for Win. DOS would probably be little more tricky with all those menus but keep an eye out for 'Power Control Beep'. I don't know what others sound may have been disabled by that though. I think that Suspend is gone too... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 12:08:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14539 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 12:08:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA16894; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 12:38:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 12:38:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA16884; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 12:37:58 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA29392 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 11:37:54 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403241737.AA29392@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: New REVISED Battery Tests! (Please Read) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 11:37:53 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <78356.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Mar 23, 94 09:45:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Well, the battery tests have so far been rather unsuccessful. I just got a new list of the members and it's very big. I assume a lot of you missed the original tests so I'm going to try it again (and again and again and again). Please take some time to fill out this new and simplified form which was made by John Kim. I will compile the results and post the averages when I've gotten enough data points (we should be able to get at least 10 tests for the monochrome and C models -- sorry Cs, Ce, and P owners). ------Cut here------- 1. What model TP750 do you have: Mono:__ Color:__ CS:__ P:__ 2. What OS(s) do you use: ____________________________________________ 2. What size hard drive do you have: ___ MB 3. How much memory do you have: ___ MB Who manufactured your card: _______________________________________ 4. What PCMCIA cards do you have (please place an x by the ones you normally leave in the machine)? PCMCIA Card Usually In Machine _______________________________________________ ______ _______________________________________________ ______ _______________________________________________ ______ _______________________________________________ ______ _______________________________________________ ______ 5. "Normal" Use Test: Just go about your daily routines and record the time you start and stop, as well as the battery gauge readings. Use the high CPU setting, and don't let the screen and hard drive turn off. Set screen brightness to low. Don't use PCMCIA cards (remove them). Try to use the computer for at least 1 hour, preferably >2 hours (or >50% of battery charge). Usage Start: Time:_____ Battery%:________ Usage Stop: Time:_____ Battery%:________ Difference: Time:_____ Battery%:________ Feel free to repeat this test as many times as you want. If you like, you can change options like CPU speed, screen brightness, etc. If you do change something, remember to note it when you fill out the survey. Otherwise we'll assume you tested with the toughest conditions, and be amazed you got 6 hours. Oh, playing games for a few hours is a great way to do this test. New conditions (if any):____________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ 6. Suspend Test: Put your machine in suspend and let it sit. Now I know most of you are too busy to let your machines sit all the way through this one so I would just like you to record one or two overnight suspends. If you can leave it suspended for longer, great! Entering suspend: Time:_____ Battery%:________ Exiting suspend: Time:_____ Battery%:________ Difference: Time:_____ Battery%:________ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 13:25:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18610 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:25:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA21426; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:57:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:57:21 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blinky.ccmail.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA21414; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:57:18 -0500 From: Received: from smtpgate.ccmail.com by blinky.ccmail.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24491; Thu, 24 Mar 94 10:59:12 PST Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.ccmail.com id AA764535421 Thu, 24 Mar 94 10:57:01 pst Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 10:57:01 pst Message-Id: <9402247645.AA764535421@smtpgate.ccmail.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP700/720 Status: OR I joined this list because I've owned a 700C for more than a year, and found very little traffic on comp.sys.laptops about ThinkPads. It's disappointing how quickly the 700s and 720s have been obsoleted (but not that surprising, and of course pleasing if you waited to buy one). Are there any other 700/720 owners lurking out there? Is there a 700/720 mailing list? I can't even find 700 option announcements on the IBM ftp host (ibminect.awdpa.ibm.com, in /pub/announcements). --Cy-- P.S. IBM has dropped the price on the Port Replicators for the 700 to $49 (a mini-dock). A great deal! The 240 meg drive upgrade is still $919 though (ouch!). I assume there are no other suppliers for MCA drives, right? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 14:26:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13998 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 14:26:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA19495; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:26:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:25:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA19466; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:25:46 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA02991; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 10:25:45 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) id KAA16451; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 10:25:42 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403241825.KAA16451@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: SCSI connectors To: meister@cats.ucsc.edu Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 10:25:42 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403240822.AAA20199@buddy.ucsc.edu> from "meister@cats.ucsc.edu" at Mar 24, 94 00:22:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Has anyone out there tried attaching SCSI devices to a TP750 without > buying the docking station. I am looking at an ad for something called > the Trantor connector. It attaches to the parallel port, and is supposed > to work with SCSI CD-Roms, hard disks, tape drives, etc. Is this likely > to be true? Would it be better to use a PCMCIA SCSI adapter card? Is > the TP750 a SCSI system, and does it matter for this purpose? I've seen in some advertisements that Adaptec has a PCMCIA SCSI adaptor. Seems to be available from various mail order companies. I presume that it would be much faster than a Parallel port solution, which is inherently slow. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 15:25:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10620 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 15:25:52 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA28756; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 15:59:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 15:59:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA28749; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 15:59:20 -0500 From: Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwiqt19371; Thu, 24 Mar 94 15:59:30 -0500 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13382; Thu, 24 Mar 94 12:47:50 PST Received: from server. by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA08704; Thu, 24 Mar 94 12:59:23 PST Received: by server. (5.57/SMI-4.0) id AA02445; Thu, 24 Mar 94 12:58:02 -0800 Message-Id: <9403242058.AA02445@server.> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: SCSI connectors Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 12:58:01 -0800 X-Mts: smtp Status: OR > I've seen in some advertisements that Adaptec has a PCMCIA SCSI > adaptor. Seems to be available from various mail order companies. The Adaptec isn't listed as a supported device under EasyPlay yet. There was only one SCSI card that was certified. I believe it's from NewVision (to be honest I can't remember the real name) and according to the chart in PCMCIA.CRD on the utils diskette it won't work with the Auto Configurator. This means you'll need the vendors's drivers to make it work. I missed the post about the Trantor EPP not working on the TP750. Is the TP EPP port not compatible with this adapter? --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 17:41:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10545 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 17:41:07 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA06362; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 18:18:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 18:18:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA06354; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 18:18:44 -0500 From: Received: from bartles (BARTLES.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA23890; Thu, 24 Mar 94 17:14:31 CST Received: by bartles (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA06725; Thu, 24 Mar 94 17:18:16 CST Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 17:18:16 CST Message-Id: <9403242318.AA06725@bartles> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Just installed my Megahertz XJ2144 in my 750C Status: OR I just received and installed a Megahertz XJ2144 in my 750C. On the up side, it was very easy to install and get working. On the down side, it came with a manual that doesn't yet cover the XJ2144. The Megahertz manual is a universal manual that covers all of their modems, which break down into three command sets. The XJ2144 wasn't listed with any of the three command sets, and each command set had commands within it which produced an ERROR when typed into the XJ2144. In spite of the manual, which I assume will be corrected over time, I'm pleased so far with the product. Wes From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 24 17:57:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16308 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Mar 1994 17:57:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA07096; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 18:31:54 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 18:31:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA07081; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 18:31:49 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA24332 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 94 18:18:38 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E18699; Thu, 24 Mar 94 18:06:39 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Duracell Nickel Hydri From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.337587.700.0CE18699@channel1.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 17:53:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Re: Duracell Nickel Hydride >> Subject: Duracell Nickel Hydride >> >> Greetings.... >> Just saw an article concerning a Duracell Nickel Hydride rechargeble >> battery, that supposedly can be used it the 750c! The article claims >> that this battery has 40% LONGER SERVICE LIFE then any other laptop >> battery in the market today! > I'm very happy to see this! Thanks for sharing! > Could you please post the source too? And does it specifically >mention that this Duracell battery is specifically made for use in the >IBM 750 series? > Any word on where it can be obtained and for how much? 800 >numbers or anything like that? Hi Randy... Just like me to post something without any details! ;) First, the article came from WINDOW SOURCES, April '94 issue! >From the article, apparently Duracell does make a battery for the 750c amongst a few other Laptops! The author called COMUSA in Philadelphia...battery for the 750c was a stock item, but it was out. Would take 2 to 3 weeks for delivery! He also called FRY'S ELECTRONICS in Sunnyvale, CA. There it would have to be ordered, and would take 10 to 14 days. This seems to good to be true, 40% EXTRA battery live for the 750c!!!! Apparently it is true......!! Joseph Pereira ps:There were no 800 #'s given Randy! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 25 00:38:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26463 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:38:55 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02867; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:23:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:23:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02858; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:23:36 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA23309 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:23:32 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403250623.AA23309@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Add-on to battery tests To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:23:31 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Please add the OS you are using to the battery test info. Also, be sure to send it to me via email -- we don't need to clutter up the list some more... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 25 00:39:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26476 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:39:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02808; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:21:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:21:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02801; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:21:31 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA22783 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:21:28 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403250621.AA22783@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: SCSI connectors To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:21:27 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9403242058.AA02445@server.> from "bruce@objy.com" at Mar 24, 94 12:57:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > The Adaptec isn't listed as a supported device under EasyPlay yet. There > was only one SCSI card that was certified. I believe it's from NewVision > (to be honest I can't remember the real name) and according to the chart in > PCMCIA.CRD on the utils diskette it won't work with the Auto Configurator. > This means you'll need the vendors's drivers to make it work. Can we make an entry for it? I don't really use EasyPlay, the program -- just the autodriver. I'd like more info on EasyPlay... > I missed the post about the Trantor EPP not working on the TP750. Is the > TP EPP port not compatible with this adapter? Apparently, the Trantor EPP isn't compatible with all the TP750 models (or at least in the messages I've seen so far). The one model I now it works with is the 750C. I know problems have occured with the Ce and the Trantor (kind of ironic, huh?). To use the Trantor EPP, you have to set the LPT port to LPT2. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 25 00:55:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29874 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:55:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA03603; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:34:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:34:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA03595; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:34:30 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA26650; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 22:33:21 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 22:35:26 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <81326.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: meister@cats.ucsc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: SCSI connectors Status: OR In message Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:22:43 -0800, meister@cats.ucsc.edu writes: > Has anyone out there tried attaching SCSI devices to a TP750 without > buying the docking station. I am looking at an ad for something called > the Trantor connector. It attaches to the parallel port, and is supposed > to work with SCSI CD-Roms, hard disks, tape drives, etc. Is this likely > to be true? Would it be better to use a PCMCIA SCSI adapter card? Is > the TP750 a SCSI system, and does it matter for this purpose? A friend of mine lent me his ParaSCSI parallel port/SCSI adapter while he was out of the country. I only got to try it with a CD-ROM drive, and I only got it partially working, but I didn't really try hard. I could control the CD-ROM, and play music off it, but every time I did a 'dir' I got a device not ready error. My guess is that I didn't configure something right (it was an old drive). I don't see why it wouldn't work. As to whether or not a parallel port SCSI adapter or PCMCIA card is better, the ParaSCSI manaul said their EPP (Enhanced Parallel Port) version had a transfer rate of 1MB/sec. The PCMCIA standard is equivalent to a 16-bit ISA bus which I think (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) is capable of only slightly more than that. The TP750 has an EPP. The PCMCIA SCSI card might be better since there are SCSI-2 versions, and once it's configured properly, it acts just like an ISA card. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 25 00:55:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29883 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:55:29 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA03615; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:34:43 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:34:42 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA03605; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:34:38 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA26653; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 22:33:29 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 22:35:35 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <81335.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: joseph.pereira@channel1.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Duracell Nickel Hydride Status: OR In message Wed, 23 Mar 94 19:08:00 -0500, joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) writes: > Just saw an article concerning a Duracell Nickel Hydride rechargeble > battery, that supposedly can be used it the 750c! The article claims > that this battery has 40% LONGER SERVICE LIFE then any other laptop > battery in the market today! 40% longer service life probably means it can be used for 700 recharge/ discharge cycles instead of the 500 that's normal for most NiMH batteries. The time the battery life will last on one charge is labeled in amp-hours. If they can figure out a way to get more amp-hours out of the same sized NiMH battery, great. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 25 01:21:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04326 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:21:13 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA05460; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 02:04:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 02:04:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA05451; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 02:04:00 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA26737; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 23:02:51 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 23:04:57 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <83098.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: More on hibernation/suspend beep Status: OR In message Thu, 24 Mar 1994 11:21:51 -0600 (CST), Sean Chou writes: > Ah, my bust. Specifically, under OS/2, go to the Sounds applet and > uncheck the 'Power Control Beep' alarm. I would assume that it's > comparable for Win. DOS would probably be little more tricky > with all those menus but keep an eye out for 'Power Control Beep'. Under DOS, if you just type 'ps2' you get a menu that has the same options as the OS/2 and Windows power management folders. If you have a mouse driver installed, you can even use a mouse to pick your options. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU Fri Mar 25 03:44:29 1994 Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18974 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 03:44:26 -0600 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA01921; Fri, 25 Mar 94 04:44:27 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 94 04:44:27 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403250944.AA01921@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: IBM UK Customer Service... Status: OR I am trying to get Return to ZOrk working onthe TP750. The music works fine, but the digitized speach just causes strange squeaks. Anyone have any ideas? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 25 06:41:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09662 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 06:41:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id HAA02153; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 07:24:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 07:24:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id HAA02146; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 07:24:17 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA02590; Fri, 25 Mar 94 07:24:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 94 07:24:21 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403251224.AA02590@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu, kedem@cs.nyu.edu Subject: Re: trackpoint II Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR I agree, the Toshiba TPII is not nearly as good as the IBM one. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 25 09:22:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03184 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 25 Mar 1994 09:22:44 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA12394; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 09:52:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 09:52:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from u.cc.utah.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA12386; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 09:52:50 -0500 Received: (from pawcamp@localhost) by u.cc.utah.edu (8.6.8/8.6.7uucc-b) id HAA29670; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 07:52:39 -0700 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 07:49:46 -0700 (MST) From: Paul Campbell Subject: Re: Just installed my Megahertz XJ2144 in my 750C To: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9403242318.AA06725@bartles> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Thu, 24 Mar 1994 byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com wrote: > > I just received and installed a Megahertz XJ2144 in my 750C. > > On the up side, it was very easy to install and get working. > > On the down side, it came with a manual that doesn't yet cover the > XJ2144. The Megahertz manual is a universal manual that covers all of > their modems, which break down into three command sets. The XJ2144 > wasn't listed with any of the three command sets, and each command set > had commands within it which produced an ERROR when typed into the > XJ2144. You are correct in assuming that the manual is universal. The difference between the XJ1144 and the XJ2144 is that the XJ2144 has MNP10 and flash-upgradability. YOu should refer to the Rockwell AT command set within your manual. If you have any further questions, call our Technical Support Line @ 1-800-LAPTOPS Thanks for buying Megahertz... =pc= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 26 17:45:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10312 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 26 Mar 1994 17:45:49 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA10556; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 18:27:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 18:27:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA10543; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 18:27:46 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA06452 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 26 Mar 1994 17:27:29 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403262327.AA06452@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 17:27:28 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199403262121.NAA15902@buddy.ucsc.edu> from "meister@cats.ucsc.edu" at Mar 26, 94 01:21:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Before I went out and bought ED floppies, I tried formatting a > generic 1.44 HD disk as a 2.88 disk using Norton > Desktop for Windows 3.0. Much to my surprise the > disk worked normally in all respects. Since then I Both John Kim and I have done this with success. However, John hasn't ever told us how his disks have survived the test of time. I lost track of my normal HD disk formatted to 2.88 but they were fine after a month at least. OTOH, many of my disks started showing bad sectors for some strange reason. I don't know if it has anything to do with the 2.88 format or the TP (I remember reading somewhere that the TP had some problems with OS/2's formatting). And that reminds me, the cheapest source I've found for 2.88 floppies thus far has been the Media Factory at around $2.30 per disk. The number is 800-879-9536. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 26 21:22:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18302 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 26 Mar 1994 21:22:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA22449; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 22:06:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 22:06:42 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA22442; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 22:06:40 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with ESMTP id TAA24464; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 19:06:37 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) id TAA20333; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 19:06:34 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403270306.TAA20333@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd To: meister@cats.ucsc.edu Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 19:06:33 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403262121.NAA15902@buddy.ucsc.edu> from "meister@cats.ucsc.edu" at Mar 26, 94 01:21:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Before proceeding with this, I checked with someone at IBM tech > support, who was not surprised. He told me that > one can indeed format > ordinary HD disks for 2.88 -- but that they are > not as reliable for use in transferring data > between different machines. (They work best on > the drive that formatted them.) Not having access > to another 2.88 drive, I have not tested the > point. Way back when 2.88 was first invented, I had a 2.88 drive in my desktop machine and a special floppy controller to make it work. What a disappointment. I currently have formatted one HD 1.44 disk as a 2.88 with my ThinkPad, and use it to hold lots of DOS 6.1 stuff on it (for the purpose of screwing around from a booted floppy--but for safety reasons, it is definitely *not* the only one I have as a boot floppy!). You're right--it works. But I wouldn't rely on it. Just like the people who used to punch holes in 720K disks and format them as 1.44's. Big mistake. The bottom line is that they aren't built to the same tolerances. The magnetic media is not as dense, and therefore not as safe. Sure, you can format it for a higher density, but the liklihood of failure increases manyfold. If you plan to use 2.88 format with any regularity, keep those 2.88 ED disks you bought. If you do not, one day when you least expect it, one of those 1.44 disks you formatted to 2.88 will fail on you and you'll be quite unhappy. Isn't the extra 1 or 2 bucks worth it to keep that from happening at some critical juncture? ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 26 21:56:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23787 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 26 Mar 1994 21:56:14 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA24168; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 22:39:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 22:39:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA24161; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 22:39:39 -0500 From: Received: from cedrick (CEDRICK.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA08001; Sat, 26 Mar 94 21:35:11 CST Received: by cedrick (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA02547; Sat, 26 Mar 94 21:38:58 CST Date: Sat, 26 Mar 94 21:38:58 CST Message-Id: <9403270338.AA02547@cedrick> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: [meister@cats.ucsc.edu: 2.88 fdd] Status: OR I personally would not trust a reformatted 1.44->2.88 floppy as a backup/archive media. Return-Path: X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 26 Mar 1994 16:21:47 EST From: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 13:21:41 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 2.88 fdd Before I went out and bought ED floppies, I tried formatting a generic 1.44 HD disk as a 2.88 disk using Norton Desktop for Windows 3.0. Much to my surprise the disk worked normally in all respects. Since then I have been using reformatted 1.44 disks to back up and archive my data -- which seem to hold nearly 6 mb of data/disk in zipped form. Before proceeding with this, I checked with someone at IBM tech support, who was not surprised. He told me that one can indeed format ordinary HD disks for 2.88 -- but that they are not as reliable for use in transferring data between different machines. (They work best on the drive that formatted them.) Not having access to another 2.88 drive, I have not tested the point. Has any one else tried this? doing it? (There is, I suppose, an element of insecurity if I have to use another 2.88 drive to recover my data, most of which is also on my desktop in any case.) Are there other potential problems that have not occurred to me? The ED disks are rather expensive, and thus far my box of them remains unopened. Bob Meister From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 26 23:18:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06423 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 26 Mar 1994 23:18:09 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA28993; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 00:04:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 00:04:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA28986; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 00:04:00 -0500 From: Received: from cedrick (CEDRICK.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA08595; Sat, 26 Mar 94 22:59:32 CST Received: by cedrick (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA02629; Sat, 26 Mar 94 23:03:19 CST Date: Sat, 26 Mar 94 23:03:19 CST Message-Id: <9403270503.AA02629@cedrick> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com Subject: 750 SYS 1.04 BIOS, 1.21 Utilities,Megahertz XJ2144,Suspend,Resume,Hibernate Status: OR Summary of this long post: - there's a new utility disk, version 1.21, on the IBM BBS that's just a few days old. - tells how to get the XJ2144 (& presumably other PCMCIA modems) to work across suspend/resume and hibernate transitions (for MS-DOS 6.2/Windows 3.1 at least). After working a bit with my XJ2144, I found a minor problem with resuming from suspend. For some reason, whenever the XJ2144 drivers were installed & I resumed from suspend, my screen would not light up for entering my ROM password. It would come on after I entered my password and the DOS or Windows screen reappeared. Really weird. Not a big deal, but it annoyed me, so I called Megahertz. They were very helpful and sent a FAX pointing me to the IBM BBS and the new Utilities disk. I cross referenced their FAX to my archives of this mailing list, and found nearly the exact same message here (I should have looked at my archives first!). So I called the IBM BBS, and downloaded both Version 1.04 of the BIOS and Version >>>>> 1.21 <<<<< of the Utilities disk (yes, there's a new version of the Utilities disk as of just a few days ago. This version apparently replaces 1.2x. I didn't notice anything in 1.21 that 1.2x didn't already have. I wonder if 1.2x was a test/experimental release, therefore, the x?) I loaded everything up, tried out EzPlay, and removed all references to Mezahertz from my CONFIG.SYS, AUTOEXEC.BAT, and SYSTEM.INI -- they aren't needed any more with Ezplay. I made sure my modem was still working, then tried the suspend/resume test. Boom! My back light is still not coming on. After doing a few more test, I found other problems, such as the PCMCIA not powering up after coming out of hibernate and system hangs when resuming from a suspend while in Procomm for Windows (these might have also been there before - I really didn't get into this level of testing when I hit the back light problem and got the FAX). But I found the trick! I went back into my CONFIG.SYS and deleted all the lines having anything to do with PCMCIA, rebooted, then loaded the 1.21 Utilities again. It added all the PCMCIA lines back to myCONFIG.SYS, and you guessed it, now everything works correctly! I can suspend/resume and my screen lights up for the password entry. The PCMCIA power is turned off on suspend, and turns back on on resume (there is a short pause that didn't used to be there before while I guess it reinitializes the cards). I can use the modem after a suspend/resume! I can even use the modem after a power up from hibernate! It's great! All I can surmise is that the Utilities install program, PCMINSTW, must not have moved all the new files across because it saw the devices already loaded. When I removed the devices, it must have done the install as a virgin install (any other theories?). Summary of what I did (for my 750C running MS DOS 6.2 & Windows 3.1): 1) Loaded Version 1.04 of the BIOS (SY750104.EXE from the IBM BBS or SYS750 on CompuServe). 2) Removed all CONFIG.SYS PCMCIA device entries 3) Removed all MEGAHERTZ entries from CONFIG.SYS, AUTOEXEC.BAT, & SYSTEM.INI (these were left over from running the Megahertz install program when I first got the modem. EzPlay seems to eliminate the need for any Megahertz software on the system -- have card, will travel). 4) Rebooted, then ran PCMINSTW from the Utilities Disk Version 1.21 (UT750121.EXE from the IBM BBS; not yet on CompuServe). Next step -- getting my IBM PCMCIA Ethernet to work. It should be a lot easier now with EzPlay. I need to use it with both Windows for Workgroups 3.11 and with TCP/IP. I'll be loading all this up week-after-next when I return from Microsoft Tech Ed. Any war stories and mine pit warnings would be appreciated before I start. Anyone know what new twist the Ezplay puts on the Ethernet PCMCIA? Should I, or should I not, install what's on the IBM floppy for the card? Ezplay does see the card, but for the moment shows it as not ready. Onward through the fog. Wes From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 02:08:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00724 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:08:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA07778; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:51:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:51:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA07771; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:51:23 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA27252 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 01:51:06 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403270751.AA27252@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: 3COM ethernet card To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 01:51:05 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Has anyone gotten a 3COM ethernet card? (The one for $99)... I'm wondering if it'll work with our TPs and OS/2. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 02:18:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01863 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:18:57 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA08471; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 03:03:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 03:03:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA08462; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 03:02:59 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA00104 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:02:42 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403270802.AA00104@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: TP750 newsgroup To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:02:42 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR It seems there is quite a bit of interest in a newsgroup for us; however, I don't know how to form a newsgroup nor do I know ho many people we would need. I do suggest that we form a general Thinkpad group though if we don't have the numbers for a TP750 group...or maybe a TP7XX group... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 09:24:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05830 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 09:24:04 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA06987; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 09:57:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 09:57:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom9.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA06980; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 09:57:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id GAA29413; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 06:58:09 -0800 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 06:57:41 -0800 (PST) From: Arie Litman Subject: Re: CPU Upgrade? (fwd) To: TP-750 List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lets make this a news group! Arie Litman voice (408)441-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 16:49:27 -0500 From: Robert Dewar To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: CPU Upgrade? Now that the vlume on this mailinfg list is getting bigger, shouldn't it be conbverted to a newsgroup? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 11:16:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17635 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 11:16:26 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA13801; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 11:58:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 11:58:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mailgate.prod.aol.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA13794; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 11:58:51 -0500 From: Received: by mailgate.prod.aol.net (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13176; Sun, 27 Mar 94 11:56:41 -0500 X-Mailer: America Online Mailer Sender: "mreagin" Message-Id: <9403271156.tn162459@aol.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Mar 94 11:56:39 EST Subject: 3Com Ethernet Card Status: OR I just received the Etherlink III 3c589-TP PCMCIA network adapter, but I have not figured out how to make it work yet. I have a TP750 (12 MEG ram & 340 MEG HD) with IBM DOS 6.1 and Windows for Workgroup 3.11. The Etherdisk diagnostics are able to find and configure the card, but I would like to get it to work with NCSA telnet and MS Kermit through the use of a packet driver. I called the 3com BBS and found a 3com packet driver for the Etherlink III series. The filename is 3C5X9PD.COM. The packet driver is not able to find the card, however. Can anyone help me find the proper packet driver and setup for this card? One final note. On the outside of the box, the TP750 IS listed as a compatible laptop. Thanks for the help. Mike Reagin mreagin@aol.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 15:33:23 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22188 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 15:33:21 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA26689; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 16:10:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 16:10:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hamlet.ucdavis.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA26672; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 16:10:30 -0500 From: Received: by hamlet.ucdavis.edu (8.6.8/UCD2.50) id MAA29719; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 12:46:59 -0800 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 12:46:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: TP750 newsgroup To: Sean Chou Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199403270802.AA00104@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Sun, 27 Mar 1994, Sean Chou wrote: > It seems there is quite a bit of interest in a newsgroup for us; > however, I don't know how to form a newsgroup nor do I know ho > many people we would need. > > I do suggest that we form a general Thinkpad group though if we > don't have the numbers for a TP750 group...or maybe a TP7XX > group... > YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Let's have a newsgroup. Brian From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 16:57:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15450 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 16:57:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id RAA01886; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 17:38:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 17:38:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id RAA01879; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 17:38:04 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA17053; Sun, 27 Mar 94 17:37:41 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 94 17:37:41 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403272237.AA17053@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: meister@cats.ucsc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd Status: OR I installed a Teac 2.88 meg drive on my Intel series X top, and indeed I did have some trouble transferring bogus reformatted 1.44 meg diskettes, so now I use ED's with absolutely no trouble at all. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 21:49:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17742 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 21:49:25 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA26852; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:24:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:24:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA26845; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:24:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (postman@localhost) by andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA13612 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:24:18 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:24:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix7.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:23:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix7.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.14.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix7.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix7.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:23:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:23:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew A. Houghton" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: comm software Status: OR here's the question: what flavors of communications software are people using on their tp's and with what success? The reason I ask is I'm having lots of problems with my thinkpad in certain situations, and while I _think_ the problem is hardware related, it could very well be software. Here's the problem: essentially, characters are getting dropped at high speed. I've tried this with both my intel and with a direct connection, and I get the same results -- skewed display as a result of lost characters. I'm trying to connect to my university, and the exact same setup works perfectly on my desktop machine -- same hardware (direct connection), and same software (windows for workgroups 3.11 w/ Procomm Plus for Windows -- although the problem also manifests itself with the Windows terminal package, and a number of DOS-only comm packages). Has anyone seen this behavior under similar situations? Or am I the only one with (what appears to be) an iffy serial port? As I said, I'm leaning towards a hardware problem since it works on one machine, and doesn't on another; additionally since it fails so consistently under so many different communications packages. suggestions? - Andrew From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 27 21:55:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19466 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 21:55:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA27793; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:37:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:37:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA27774; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:36:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (postman@localhost) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA08233 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:36:54 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:36:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix7.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:35:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix7.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.14.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix7.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix7.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:35:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:35:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew A. Houghton" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: comm software In-Reply-To: References: Status: OR okay -- I just realized I was an idiot for comparing a PCMCIA modem and a direct connection through the serial port; makes me less inclined to believe it's solely a hardware problem :) ... and yet, the problem still exists. - andrew From dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU Sun Mar 27 23:59:24 1994 Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24217 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 23:59:21 -0600 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA18123; Mon, 28 Mar 94 00:59:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 00:59:27 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403280559.AA18123@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Sorry, but I gotta vent this... Status: OR actually for me, the single thing that makes me consider only a TP is the Trackpoint-II. Sure many other features are nice, but are matched or close to matched by other laptops. In particular, having seen them side by side, the new Versa screen, though a bit smaller, is considerably brighter than the TP. ALso the Versa's are more upgradable, one of the biggest weeknesses of TP's has been their lack of upgradability with respect to processor chips. But the TPII is certainly worth the price of admission! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 00:11:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27208 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 00:11:07 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA06145; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 00:43:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 00:43:09 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA06138; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 00:43:07 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA20004 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 27 Mar 1994 23:42:50 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403280542.AA20004@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Sorry, but I gotta vent this... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 23:42:49 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I can't believe some of the people that are out there. Where do they get their accounts? I can't seriously believe they are affiliated with a university (god forbid if they're staff members)! This is one of the messages I got in response to my post on forming a TP newsgroup... Forwarded message: > From jbhoward@gibbs.oit.unc.edu Sun Mar 27 16:56:10 1994 > Date: Sun, 27 Mar 94 17:56:18 -0500 > From: jbhoward@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (james howard) > Message-Id: <9403272256.AA21450@gibbs.oit.unc.edu> > To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu > Subject: Thinkpad 750 newsgroup is pointless! > > > look, I have tried for months to get a 750C, and it is impossible > The only places that have them in stock are charging 3000$ over > retail price, putting them way out of the range of ordinary mortals. > > IBM has stopped taking orders for them, and hasnt had any in > stock for months- in fact, the lady I spoke to at IBM direct told > me they have only *HAD* 900 of them, total, since they ever > started selling them. > > Face it, the only reason the 750c is nice is because it is th > the only laptop with a 10.4 screen, other than that it sucks. > > As soon as any other company makes a 10.4 screen laptop, the > 750c will become nothing more than an overpriced relic. > > regards, > james > Once again, sorry for posting this to the group in general but I want you guys to know how lucky we are to have machines that cause so much jealousy in people! :) James can't hope that we beleive for a moment that he tried for months to get a machine that he thinks sucks... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 06:08:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18764 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:08:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA01681; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:50:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:50:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA01662; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:50:23 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA18482; Mon, 28 Mar 94 06:50:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 06:50:16 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403281150.AA18482@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinkpad availability Status: OR The 750C is about to be obsoleted by the new models using the DX3 chip. THe timescale is not clear, but it is suspicious that our bookstore suddenly says that it can get a 750C in the near future! It really is too bad that the thinkpads have no upgradability From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 08:40:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03001 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 08:40:27 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA11645; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:18:52 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:18:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA11625; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:18:47 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07001; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:17:23 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:19:30 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <22770.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: comm software Status: OR In message Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:23:51 -0500 (EST), "Andrew A. Houghton" writes: > Here's the problem: essentially, characters are getting dropped at > high speed. I've tried this with both my intel and with a direct > connection, and I get the same results -- skewed display as a result > of lost characters. I'm trying to connect to my university, and the > exact same setup works perfectly on my desktop machine -- same > hardware (direct connection), and same software (windows for > workgroups 3.11 w/ Procomm Plus for Windows -- although the problem > also manifests itself with the Windows terminal package, and a number > of DOS-only comm packages). If you're using the default autoexec.bat, rem out fueldos (the DOS doohicky that gives you a battery meter). It's the culprit. One of these days I've gotta remember to report it to IBM... Before you go conclude it's a hardware problem, try it again with a minimal config.sys and autoexec.bat. Another reason I hate DOS and love OS/2. :) -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 08:44:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03856 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 08:44:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA11622; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:18:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:18:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA11615; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:18:33 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA06992; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:17:05 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 06:19:12 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <22752.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd Status: OR In message Sat, 26 Mar 1994 17:27:28 -0600 (CST), Sean Chou writes: >> Before I went out and bought ED floppies, I tried formatting a >> generic 1.44 HD disk as a 2.88 disk using Norton >> Desktop for Windows 3.0. Much to my surprise the >> disk worked normally in all respects. Since then I > > Both John Kim and I have done this with success. However, John > hasn't ever told us how his disks have survived the test of > time. I lost track of my normal HD disk formatted to 2.88 but > they were fine after a month at least. I have too! :) Soon after I got my TP750 in November '93, I formatted 3 HD disks as 2.88 MB and backed up some zip files on them. The zip files didn't fill the entire disks but they come close, and I can test them fairly easily. They passed the immediate test, the 1 day test, the 1 week test, the 2 week test, the 1 month test, and the 2 month test. Now that you mention it maybe it's time for a 5 month test, or maybe I should just wait for a 6 month test. I should note the disks just sit there in the box (it is a backup after all). I have no idea how they'd react to daily usage. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 08:56:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06889 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 08:56:39 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA12633; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:32:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:32:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA12610; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:32:39 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA19684; Mon, 28 Mar 94 09:32:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 09:32:26 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9403281432.AA19684@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd Status: OR just to repeat my experience. I did not encounter any problems reading bogus 2.88's that had been formatted and written on the same TP. However, I definitely DID have problems trying to transfer such diskettes between machines (I have a 2.88 TEAC drive on my desktop machine). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 09:04:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08971 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:04:16 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA13744; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:45:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:45:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from milkman.cac.psu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA13733; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:45:18 -0500 Received: from wilbur.cac.psu.edu by milkman.cac.psu.edu with SMTP id AA23388 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:45:14 -0500 From: Lyle Long Received: by wilbur.cac.psu.edu id ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:45:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 09:45:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199403281445.AA25687@wilbur.cac.psu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: high-speed modem problems on TP-500 Status: OR I am having trouble getting a Practical Peripherals 14.4 KB modem working with my TP-500. I have tried removing my autoexec.bat and config.sys files, I have tried MS-DOS and IBM-DOS, I have turned off all power management (I think). I just can't figure out what is wrong. I am using Procomm (which loses lots of characters) and FTP Corp. PPP software. Neither of them work. Any suggestions as to what to try will be appreciated. L. Long lnl@cac.psu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 10:07:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00711 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 10:07:05 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA18312; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 10:33:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 10:33:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA18305; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 10:33:23 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA29488; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 07:33:20 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) id HAA17470; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 07:33:18 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199403281533.HAA17470@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: thinkpad availability To: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 07:33:18 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9403281150.AA18482@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at Mar 28, 94 06:50:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > The 750C is about to be obsoleted by the new models using the DX3 chip. > THe timescale is not clear, but it is suspicious that our bookstore > suddenly says that it can get a 750C in the near future! Well, by that standard, the TP750 was obselete the minute they made it, since there were plenty of DX2 66's sitting around when the TP750 was created, yet they only used a 33 MHz chip. I work all the time on a desktop machine that is a 66MHz, but I still think the 33 in the TP750 is pretty fast and more than acceptable for portable use. > It really is too bad that the thinkpads have no upgradability *sigh*--yeah, I wish it could too, but I guess that's life. I don't know of very many CPU-upgradable notebooks. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Mar 28 15:59:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22240 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 15:59:21 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA10337; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 15:26:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 15:26:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from relay.tek.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA10325; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 15:26:04 -0500 Received: by relay.tek.com id ; Mon, 28 Mar 94 12:02:17 -0800 Received: from tekig7.cse.tek.com by tektronix.TEK.COM (4.1/8.1) id AA03306; Mon, 28 Mar 94 12:02:06 PST Received: from mimaster.PEN.TEK.COM (mimaster.TEK) by tekig7.cse.tek.com (4.1/8.0) id AA06830; Mon, 28 Mar 94 12:02:05 PST Received: by mimaster.PEN.TEK.COM (5.17/6.24) id AA07368; Mon, 28 Mar 94 12:01:52 PST Received: by lacamas.PEN.TEK.COM (4.1/6.24) id AA14735; Mon, 28 Mar 94 12:02:03 PST Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 12:02:03 PST From: alanr@lacamas.pen.tek.com (Alan Rovner) Message-Id: <9403282002.AA14735@lacamas.PEN.TEK.COM> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: New User Introduction - Q about MHz Modem. Status: OR Hello group, this is my first posting here. I'd like to introduce myself and ask for support on a Megahertz modem problem I'm having. My name is Al Rovner, I'm an engineer with Tektronix and I own a Thinkpad 720. Hopefully it's ok to ask questions about non-750 machines. My 720 runs OS/2 2.1 (no service pack), 8MB RAM and a Megahertz xjack 14400 PCMCIA modem. The Megahertz modem runs just fine from initial bootup until the 720 goes into suspend mode. When awakening from suspend mode, I get various error messages about the com2: port. Messages like "The Drive is not Ready" or "This port is in use by another application", etc. My modem software refuses to run at this point. I don't believe this effect to be OS/2 peculiar. It happened under DOS before I installed OS/2. In chatting with a friend at the local IBM office in Portland, he acknowledged there was a problem with Thinkpad 720's and Megahertz xjack modems. I have been able to duplicate this problem by booting from a DOS floppy. The 720 will absolutely refuse to go into suspend mode at all while the modem is installed. Remove the modem (with the power still on) and no problem. You can suspend all you like. My friend said that Megahertz technical support is aware of this. Speaking of which, I have also chatted with Bob Sweet (sp?) from Megahertz who has been friendly and helpful, but alas we still haven't been able to fix my problem. I wonder if these two problems are related somehow? So there you have it. If any of you can help out please let me know and I'll gladly give any suggestions a try. I like the Megahertz modem, especially the pop out phone jack, it's much sturdier than I thought it would be. I just wish I could get this driver situation running to my satisfaction. Regards, Al Rovner alanr@lacamas.pen.tek.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 19:36:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26616 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 19:36:26 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA29550; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 19:50:46 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 19:50:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA29539; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 19:50:43 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA15692; Mon, 28 Mar 94 16:50:40 PST Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07720; Mon, 28 Mar 94 16:49:49 PST Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12063; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 16:50:35 +0800 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 16:50:35 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9403290050.AA12063@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP750: new PCMCIA disk drivers available Status: OR If you've got a PCMCIA hard disk drive, you might want to check out the file ATADO200.EXE on the IBM BBS -- it's a set of PCMCIA-ATA device drivers and diagnostic utilities for DOS and OS/2. It's been there about a week now. If you don't have a PCMCIA disk, don't bother getting the file. I grabbed it because it was BIG -- I figured it had some additional goodies, and it doesn't. Instead it has the same files duplicated in 4 different subdirectories, for italian, french, german and spanish. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 20:52:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28640 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 20:52:24 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA06741; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:31:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:31:27 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from access3.digex.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA06733; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:31:25 -0500 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA13659 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:31:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:31:04 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Klockner Subject: Re: Comm. problems To: Chris Schumann Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <24032818030782@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Mon, 28 Mar 1994, Chris Schumann wrote: > I also upgraded my BIOS and installed EZPlay yesterday. > How convenient to have the modem enabled right away, and > suspend works correctly, too! > How unacceptably inconvenient for this software to take 60K > of memory below the 640K boundary. I promptly removed > it from my config.sys. At home, I don't care if it > really suspends when the screen turns off and the hard drive > spins down, and at work, I don't enable the modem. > > Anyone else have opinions on EZPlay? (or a suggestion > to make it more firendly?) I've been using EZPlay for a month and it has worked flawlessly. I've been able to load all of the software high and have 589K left, even with Smartdrive loaded low. I'm using IBM DOS 6.1/Windows 3.1 on my 750Cs. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 21:17:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08745 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:17:03 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA08408; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:55:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:55:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from worldlink.worldlink.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA08395; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:55:37 -0500 Received: by worldlink.worldlink.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-Worldlink) id AA22053; Mon, 28 Mar 94 21:55:28 -0500 Message-Id: <2973991869.0.p00471@psilink.com> In-Reply-To: <9403270503.AA02629@cedrick> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 20:53:27 -0600 To: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com From: "Robert J. Della Penna" Subject: Re: 750 SYS 1.04 BIOS, 1.21 Utilities,Megahertz XJ2144,Suspend,Resume,Hibernate X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.6.2) Status: OR Wes, Thanks for the notice. Sure enought suspend and hibernation work fine with the new utilities. I do have a problem with loading EMM386.EXE in CONFIG.SYS. What parameters do you have set using the 'current' utilities. Thanks, Robert >DATE: Sat, 26 Mar 94 23:03:19 CST >FROM: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com > >Summary of this long post: > > - there's a new utility disk, version 1.21, on the IBM BBS > that's just a few days old. > > - tells how to get the XJ2144 (& presumably other PCMCIA > modems) to work across suspend/resume and hibernate > transitions (for MS-DOS 6.2/Windows 3.1 at least). > >After working a bit with my XJ2144, I found a minor problem with >resuming from suspend. For some reason, whenever the XJ2144 drivers >were installed & I resumed from suspend, my screen would not light up >for entering my ROM password. It would come on after I entered my >password and the DOS or Windows screen reappeared. Really weird. Not >a big deal, but it annoyed me, so I called Megahertz. They were very >helpful and sent a FAX pointing me to the IBM BBS and the new >Utilities disk. I cross referenced their FAX to my archives of this >mailing list, and found nearly the exact same message here (I should >have looked at my archives first!). > >So I called the IBM BBS, and downloaded both Version 1.04 of the BIOS >and Version >>>>> 1.21 <<<<< of the Utilities disk (yes, there's a new >version of the Utilities disk as of just a few days ago. This version >apparently replaces 1.2x. I didn't notice anything in 1.21 that 1.2x >didn't already have. I wonder if 1.2x was a test/experimental release, >therefore, the x?) > >I loaded everything up, tried out EzPlay, and removed all references >to Mezahertz from my CONFIG.SYS, AUTOEXEC.BAT, and SYSTEM.INI -- they >aren't needed any more with Ezplay. I made sure my modem was still >working, then tried the suspend/resume test. Boom! My back light is >still not coming on. After doing a few more test, I found other >problems, such as the PCMCIA not powering up after coming out of >hibernate and system hangs when resuming from a suspend while in >Procomm for Windows (these might have also been there before - I >really didn't get into this level of testing when I hit the back light >problem and got the FAX). > >But I found the trick! I went back into my CONFIG.SYS and deleted all >the lines having anything to do with PCMCIA, rebooted, then loaded the >1.21 Utilities again. It added all the PCMCIA lines back to my >CONFIG.SYS, and you guessed it, now everything works correctly! > >I can suspend/resume and my screen lights up for the password entry. > >The PCMCIA power is turned off on suspend, and turns back on on >resume (there is a short pause that didn't used to be there before >while I guess it reinitializes the cards). > >I can use the modem after a suspend/resume! > >I can even use the modem after a power up from hibernate! > >It's great! > >All I can surmise is that the Utilities install program, PCMINSTW, >must not have moved all the new files across because it saw the >devices already loaded. When I removed the devices, it must have done >the install as a virgin install (any other theories?). > >Summary of what I did (for my 750C running MS DOS 6.2 & Windows 3.1): > >1) Loaded Version 1.04 of the BIOS (SY750104.EXE from the IBM BBS or > SYS750 on CompuServe). > >2) Removed all CONFIG.SYS PCMCIA device entries > >3) Removed all MEGAHERTZ entries from CONFIG.SYS, AUTOEXEC.BAT, & > SYSTEM.INI (these were left over from running the Megahertz > install program when I first got the modem. EzPlay seems to > eliminate the need for any Megahertz software on the system -- > have card, will travel). > >4) Rebooted, then ran PCMINSTW from the Utilities Disk Version 1.21 > (UT750121.EXE from the IBM BBS; not yet on CompuServe). > >Next step -- getting my IBM PCMCIA Ethernet to work. It should be a >lot easier now with EzPlay. I need to use it with both Windows for >Workgroups 3.11 and with TCP/IP. I'll be loading all this up >week-after-next when I return from Microsoft Tech Ed. Any war stories >and mine pit warnings would be appreciated before I start. Anyone >know what new twist the Ezplay puts on the Ethernet PCMCIA? Should I, >or should I not, install what's on the IBM floppy for the card? >Ezplay does see the card, but for the moment shows it as not ready. > >Onward through the fog. > >Wes > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 28 22:54:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17874 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Mar 1994 22:54:02 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA14700; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 23:34:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 23:34:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA14693; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 23:34:52 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA22993 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 94 23:30:29 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E188B9; Mon, 28 Mar 94 23:22:35 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Sound/Joystick/Bag From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.341498.700.0CE188B9@channel1.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 22:28:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Re: Sound/Joystick/Bag >> 1) Turtle Beach is advertising a PCMCIA Audio Advantage sound card >> for $99. Anyone know anything about this sound card, or any way >> to give the 750c full Soundblaster compatibility with most games? >My guess is that it uses emulation for SB also. As a matter of fact, >all the portable sound solutions I know of use emulation so far. It's >up to Creative Labs to release a true SoundBlaster PCMCIA card... I think you're right..... >> 2) Is there an adapter for the 750c, that would allow you to plug in >> a regular Joystick? >I know a lot of people have been looking for this, but we've had >no luck so far. I can post to CS to see if they've had any luck. Thanks, that would be nice of you. I can't be absolutely sure but I saw an ad for a cable that plugs into the serial port, and it allows you to plug the joystick into the other end. Unfortunately I can't find the ad! Take care Sean, Joseph From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 29 05:39:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01693 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 29 Mar 1994 05:39:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA13318; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 06:09:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 06:09:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gwis.circ.gwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA13311; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 06:09:38 -0500 Received: (halinatr@localhost) by gwis.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.5) id GAA22630; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 06:11:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 06:01:40 -0500 (EST) From: darren mccabe Subject: Re: Sound/Joystick/Bag To: Joseph Pereira Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <40.341498.700.0CE188B9@channel1.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Reguarding the joystick question: I went out and got ANOTHER Colorado Spectrum Gameport based on the responses here. I did manage to get it to work (make sure you have power allocated to your serial port kiddies...) and have used it with X-Wing. It didn't work with NHL Hockey or Sphere of Destiny. Unfortunatly it is pretty much software driven, and we need to rely on game manufacturers for a "patch" to get it to work. A point on the TP750 sound chip, I installed the latest version of the audio drivers, and had two major problems: 1. Running certian programs, like Norton Change Directory with the emulation program installed, well, as soon as I hit enter it reboots my machine. Tech support had no answers. 2. It really messes up the speed of the sound. I was trying to use Soundblaster emulation in X-Wing, and aside from most of the sound being really messed up, and the speed being at a crawl, when we got to scenes of people speaking it was like some bad Marital Arts movie. The words came seconds after the lips moved. So should I expect a better patch soon? One that dosen't require me to make a special boot disk to use (I had to unload about EVERYTHING to fit it into memory and have enough for most games) I find myself thinking over and over, "Should I switch to OS/2?" (I have 20MB of memory, not that DOS or windows cares...) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Darren Patrick McCabe "Hal" | Mail: Halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu | |-------------------------------|------------------------------------------| | Work: Gnossos Software, Inc | School: The George Washington University | | 1625 K St, NW, Suite 410 | Graduate School of Political Management| | Washington, DC 20006 | PADI Open Water Scuba Instructor #57901 | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | "I want to decide who lives and who dies" - Crow T. Robot, MST3K | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 28 Mar 1994, Joseph Pereira wrote: > Subject: Re: Sound/Joystick/Bag > > > >> 1) Turtle Beach is advertising a PCMCIA Audio Advantage sound card > >> for $99. Anyone know anything about this sound card, or any way > >> to give the 750c full Soundblaster compatibility with most games? > > >My guess is that it uses emulation for SB also. As a matter of fact, > >all the portable sound solutions I know of use emulation so far. It's > >up to Creative Labs to release a true SoundBlaster PCMCIA card... > I think you're right..... > > >> 2) Is there an adapter for the 750c, that would allow you to plug in > >> a regular Joystick? > > >I know a lot of people have been looking for this, but we've had > >no luck so far. I can post to CS to see if they've had any luck. > Thanks, that would be nice of you. I can't be absolutely sure but I saw > an ad for a cable that plugs into the serial port, and it allows you to > plug the joystick into the other end. Unfortunately I can't find the ad! > > Take care Sean, > Joseph From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 29 17:32:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14394 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 29 Mar 1994 17:31:53 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA10601; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 18:03:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 18:03:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from access3.digex.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA10591; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 18:02:57 -0500 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA03101 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU); Tue, 29 Mar 1994 18:02:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 18:02:51 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Klockner Subject: EZPlay and memory To: Rick Andrew Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <46828.wpa@email.psu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Tue, 29 Mar 1994, Rick Andrew wrote: > >>------------------------------ > >> From: Wayne Klockner > >> Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:31:04 -0500 (EST) > >> To: Chris Schumann > >> Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > >> Subject: Re: Comm. problems > > >> I've been using EZPlay for a month and it has worked flawlessly. > >> I've been able to load all of the software high and have 589K left, > >> even with Smartdrive loaded low. I'm using IBM DOS 6.1/Windows 3.1 on > >> my 750Cs. > > > > Wayne, would it be possible to get a copy of your autoexec and config > files? It would be wonderful to be able to have 589K RAM available! To > date I have had no such luck. If you would be willing, you could either > send the files to me at my email address or post them to the list (or both). > Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Rick: Here are my config.sys and autoexec.bat files. I have a multiple boot configuration; "WORK" is for Windows apps and communications and leaves me 589K RAM free, and "DOSGMS" is for DOS-based games (Doom!) and leaves me 615K RAM free. First, my config.sys: [MENU] menuitem=DOSGMS menuitem=WORK menucolor=7,1 menudefault=WORK,10 [COMMON] FILES=50 DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS DOS=HIGH,umb [DOSGMS] DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS DEVICEHIGH=C:\IBMVESA\VESA.EXE DEVICEHIGH=C:\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD\TPAUDDD.SYS DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE BUFFERS=40 STACKS=9,256 [WORK] DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS FRAME=D000 X=C000-CFFF DEVICEhigh=C:\IBMVESA\VESA.EXE DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDSS01.SYS /S0=2 DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDOSCS.SYS DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\DICRMU01.SYS /MA=C000-CFFF DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\$ICPMDOS.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.SYS C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.INI REM DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\SRAMDRV2.SYS BUFFERS=20 STACKS=9,256 and my autoexec.bat: @echo off IF "%CONFIG%" == "DOSGMS" LH C:\DOS\MOUSE.COM SET DSPPATH=C:\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\BATCH;C:\DOS;C:\PKWARE;C:\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD;C:\THINKPAD PROMPT $P$G SET READIBM=C:\READIBM\READIBM.PRO SET TEMP=C:\TEMP SET TMP=C:\TEMP IF "%CONFIG%" == "WORK" LH C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE 1024 512 IF "%CONFIG%" == "DOSGMS" LH C:\IBMAUDIO\VDD\SVAUDIO.EXE The only peripheral I use is a USR WorldPort 14.4 PCMCIA fax/modem. I hope this helps you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 29 18:48:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13788 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 29 Mar 1994 18:48:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA15367; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 19:27:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 19:27:14 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from milkman.cac.psu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA15360; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 19:27:11 -0500 Received: from wilbur.cac.psu.edu by milkman.cac.psu.edu with SMTP id AA12386 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 29 Mar 1994 19:27:07 -0500 From: Lyle Long Received: by wilbur.cac.psu.edu id ; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 19:27:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 19:27:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199403300027.AA09375@wilbur.cac.psu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: FAQ and IBM BBS Status: OR could someone please send me an FAQ and tell me how to access the IBM BBS or ftp site ? thanks. Lyle Long Penn State lnl@cac.psu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 00:39:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15273 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:39:43 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07930; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07923; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:07 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14140; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:12:41 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:14:48 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <80089.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: comm software Status: OR In message Mon, 28 Mar 1994 12:33:51 -0500 (EST), "Andrew A. Houghton" writes: > well, I tried it without FUELDOS, and that didn't fix the problem. > > I'm heavily leaning toward the difference between the 16450/16550 as > the culprit.. I had forgotten that my desktop machine has 16550's, > and the TP750 has a 16450. Also, since the Intel only emulates a > 16450, and the symptoms are the same, that could be the problem. I'll > try connecting with the Intel at a lower speed and see if that fixes > it. Are you doing this under Windows or DOS? The serial ports should support 14.4kbps V.42bis connections without any problems under DOS if you use get rid of FuelDOS (and any other 'bad' TSRs). Lots of people have verified this. 16550 doesn't really matter for DOS. If you're having problems under DOS at those speeds, get the machine replaced. > If it does, I guess it's time to start saving up for an AT&T modem.. > *sigh* shouldn't have blown all my money on the tp, I guess.. :) The AT&T, new MegaHertz, and Practical Peripherals modems all emulate a 16550. Does anyone have any others to add to this list? -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 00:40:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15365 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:40:15 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07941; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:30 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:28 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07934; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:26 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14146; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:12:56 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:15:04 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <80104.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: SCHUMANN@macc.wisc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Comm. problems Status: OR In message Mon, 28 Mar 94 18:03 CDT, Chris Schumann writes: > I also upgraded my BIOS and installed EZPlay yesterday. > How convenient to have the modem enabled right away, and > suspend works correctly, too! > How unacceptably inconvenient for this software to take 60K > of memory below the 640K boundary. I promptly removed > it from my config.sys. At home, I don't care if it > really suspends when the screen turns off and the hard drive > spins down, and at work, I don't enable the modem. > > Anyone else have opinions on EZPlay? (or a suggestion > to make it more firendly?) Well, at the risk of advocating, you could run OS/2 and load EZPlay without it taking 60k of the lower 640k. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 00:41:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15533 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:41:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07968; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07959; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:39 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14155; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:13:15 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:15:23 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <80124.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd Status: OR In message Mon, 28 Mar 94 09:32:26 -0500, dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) writes: > just to repeat my experience. I did not encounter any problems reading > bogus 2.88's that had been formatted and written on the same TP. However, > I definitely DID have problems trying to transfer such diskettes between > machines (I have a 2.88 TEAC drive on my desktop machine). On a related note, has anybody else had problems reading 1.44 MB diskettes that work just fine with desktop 1.44 MB drives? -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 00:41:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15626 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:41:26 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07949; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07933; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:25 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14149; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:13:01 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:15:11 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <80112.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: joseph.pereira@channel1.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Sound/Joystick/Bag Status: OR In message Mon, 28 Mar 94 22:28:00 -0500, joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) writes: >>> 1) Turtle Beach is advertising a PCMCIA Audio Advantage sound card >>> for $99. Anyone know anything about this sound card, or any >>> way to give the 750c full Soundblaster compatibility with most >>> games? >>My guess is that it uses emulation for SB also. As a matter of fact, >> all the portable sound solutions I know of use emulation so far. It's >> up to Creative Labs to release a true SoundBlaster PCMCIA card... > I think you're right..... While I was in Korea I ran across an unbelievable number of SoundBlaster copycats. Apparently the chipset is very cheap and the hardware is very simple. The smallest I saw was a 1/3 height 8-bit card, barely larger than a PCMCIA card. Of course the sound quality left much to be desired. So it *should* be possible to make a hardware SB in PCMCIA format. I think the hangup is that the Yamaha chipset isn't the right size/voltage/whatever, and Yamaha isn't making any smaller ones. So everyone is making their own chipset and relying on software to do the emulation. Of course the SB is so old it's high time we got a new standard... -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 00:41:38 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15654 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:41:35 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07921; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:14:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA07912; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:13:59 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14137; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:12:33 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:14:41 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <80082.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: thinkpad availability Status: OR In message Mon, 28 Mar 1994 07:33:18 -0800 (PST), Randal Whittle writes: >> The 750C is about to be obsoleted by the new models using the DX3 chip. >> THe timescale is not clear, but it is suspicious that our bookstore >> suddenly says that it can get a 750C in the near future! > > Well, by that standard, the TP750 was obselete the minute they made > it, since there were plenty of DX2 66's sitting around when the TP750 was > created, yet they only used a 33 MHz chip. The 750 mono/C/Cs uses a 486SL, which only comes in 25 and 33 MHx flavors. One of the reasons I chose it over the Toshiba notebooks was because it had the SL, which translated into a 5 hour battery life for the mono model. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 00:44:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16163 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:44:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA08046; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:15:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:15:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA08038; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:15:17 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14167; Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:13:53 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:16:00 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <80161.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Another TP750-OS/2 bug? Status: OR Here's another one I just ran across. If you want to try it, make sure you haven't gone into suspend so you can ctrl-alt-del safely if you can't see the screen. OS/2 on a TP750 running in SVGA mode (640x480x256 colors). Open the DOS box settings window. Go down to Video_Mode_Restriction. It defaults to None. Change it to CGA. Close the settings notebook to save the changes. Fire up a DOS box using that object. My results have included: A blank screen (all black), an enlarged strip of the desktop repeated over and over, and a slightly scrambled screen where parts of dialog boxes and windows remain behind after they're closed. In all cases, shutdown either doesn't work or is inaccessible, which is why you need ctrl-alt-del. Can anyone else repeat this? -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 03:00:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07596 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:00:12 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA16958; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:26:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:26:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA16951; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:26:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id AAA18194; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:27:28 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 00:27:28 -0800 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199403300827.AAA18194@mail.netcom.com> To: powers@aurfs1.aur.alcatel.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Unsubscribe Status: OR Try IBM Direct I got a machine pretty quickly. Call them at one of their 800 numbers. I dealt with Tiffany Bogs and couldn't be any happier ( especially since I got my 750C this morning ). Thier prices are DAMN good too. I got my 340 Meg hard drive 750 for $5300. Martin smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 03:13:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08363 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:13:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA18236; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:47:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:47:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc7.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA18217; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:47:03 -0500 From: Message-Id: <9403300846.AA10336@husc7.harvard.edu> Subject: winsock & the darn numeric keypad (embedded) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:46:59 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Hi all! Say...I've just installed winsock on my TP. However, every time I open another window, the dang numlock key is enabled. Anyone else have this problem? Thanks. P.S. Keith, and all you other Unix-studs...okay...I figure NetBSD is the way to go (sorry linux :( )... But it's _net_BSD and not 386 or free BSD, right? I find it difficult to install BSD. I'm gonna hafta repartition and hope that everything works.... Anyone have any advice for BSD? What about SCO Unix? Hmmmm. As long as I can run X/windows... :) -- Derek From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 03:19:44 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08764 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:19:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id EAA19144; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 04:01:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 04:01:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id EAA19128; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 04:00:59 -0500 Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id BAA24710; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:01:58 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 01:01:58 -0800 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199403300901.BAA24710@mail.netcom.com> To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: winsock & the darn numeric keypad (embedded) Status: OR SCO Unix will allow you to run X-Windows and you can Boot-manager to configure it. Martin Smith msmith@netcom.com A very happy man who got his new 750C 340 Meg 20 Ram today Yiiiiiiipppppeee :wq From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 13:59:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08747 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 13:59:41 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA07127; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 14:16:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 14:15:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nic.hookup.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA07118; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 14:15:53 -0500 Received: from vetter.hookup.net (vetter.hookup.net [198.133.162.55]) by nic.hookup.net (8.6.8/1.138) with SMTP id OAA20552; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 14:15:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 14:15:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199403301915.OAA20552@nic.hookup.net> X-Sender: vetter@hookup.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: vetter@hookup.net (Tim Vetter) Subject: NextStep, mouse trails, 3rd party HD's. X-Mailer: Status: OR 1. Anyone hear of the NextStep O/S being successfully run on a TP750? 2. Mono screen Windows 3.1 users: Any of you find the Windows mouse pointers/cursors difficult to spot under hostile lighting conditions? On previous laptops I have been able to select the "Mouse Trails" option in the Control Panel "Mouse" applet to make the pointer more visible, but on the 750 the corresponding checkbox is greyed out. I assume this is a limitation of IBM's video driver; has anyone else found otherwise? 3. Can someone point me at some third-party sources for TP-compatible hard-drives (internal)? I am based out of Europe these days where hardware pickings are a little slim. Directly E-mailed responses are OK; if there's general interest in these topics, mail me and I'll compile and post summaries. Might I suggest this sort of approach would ease the group's message overload a little, as opposed to a having a mass posting for every single O/S- and configuration-related issue. Thanks all, Tim -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Vetter vetter@hookup.net 73 Warren Road voice 519-579-9904 Kitchener, Ontario fax 519-571-9520 N2M 4T6 Canada -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 30 14:23:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20256 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 14:23:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA00730; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 12:49:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 12:49:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA00677; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 12:47:16 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA26589 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 11:46:05 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403301746.AA26589@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 11:46:04 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <80124.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Mar 29, 94 10:15:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > On a related note, has anybody else had problems reading 1.44 MB diskettes > that work just fine with desktop 1.44 MB drives? No, but I did have problems reading 1.44 mb disks that I formatted on my TP when I tried to read them in a desktop. If I tried to read it with my TP again, it would work again... From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Mar 30 14:59:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08284 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 14:59:20 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA00756; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 12:49:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 12:49:53 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA00743; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 12:49:49 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA27911 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 11:49:29 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403301749.AA27911@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Sound/Joystick/Bag To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 11:49:28 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <80112.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Mar 29, 94 10:14:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > So it *should* be possible to make a hardware SB in PCMCIA format. I think > the hangup is that the Yamaha chipset isn't the right size/voltage/whatever, I think it's only a matter of time before Creative Labs gets a clue and jump on the portable bandwagon. I have no doubts that they can manufacture such a device. The problem I see is the way we address the audio cards. Since PCMCIA cards don't really have IRQ's per se, it might interfere with the way game programmers like to do sloppy programming and/or undocumented calls. > Of course the SB is so old it's high time we got a new standard... Spoken like a true revolutionist! ;) I agree 100%. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 16:25:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19275 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:25:34 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA20691; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:51:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:51:15 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from access3.digex.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA20678; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:51:14 -0500 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA27240 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:51:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:51:06 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Klockner Subject: Re: comm software To: John Kim Cc: ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <80089.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Tue, 29 Mar 1994, John Kim wrote: > The AT&T, new MegaHertz, and Practical Peripherals modems all emulate a > 16550. Does anyone have any others to add to this list? The U.S. Robotics WorldPort 14.4 PCMCIA fax/modem. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 18:54:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20633 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 18:54:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA01325; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:19:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:19:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hsdndev.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA01318; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:19:14 -0500 From: Received: from warren.med.harvard.edu by jenner.med.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22441; Wed, 30 Mar 94 19:16:53 -0500 Received: from ccMail by warren.med.harvard.edu id AA765083936 Wed, 30 Mar 94 19:18:56 EST Date: Wed, 30 Mar 94 19:18:56 EST Message-Id: <9402307650.AA765083936@warren.med.harvard.edu> To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Another TP750-OS/2 bug? Status: OR John, I am not surprised. I know of several problems with the SVGA video drivers in OS/2. I also know effective workarounds for several. It would be helpful if the 750FAQ was released (before it is obsoleted by bios and driver upgrades, we hope) or just release the list of video driver oddities and work arounds. For example: 1. In OS/2, DOS box applications that scroll their text screens directly dont always refresh correctly. Examples include Norton Commander and FastLinx. Solution: they work find in full screen (ALT/Home) and are repaired by cycling thru full/screen. 2. In OS/2 running OS/2 for windows (users), if you leave the full screen windows desktop for the OS/2 desktop, upon returning to WIN/OS2's desktop, your screen is frequently a mixture of desktops and sometimes your system font is gone (menu bars etc are not visible). Solution: I wrote a windows program that refreshes the screen and reloads the font. Apparently, no one else has this problem. 3. In IBM DOS 6, after you install OS/2 for windows, you may not be able to run any dos boxes in DOS/Win 3.1 becaused of an invalid version number. It's coming from the VIDEO DRIVER. You can edit the 386Enh section as I've previously listed here. (It's a few lines with comments). IBM confirmed this problem. All in all, the video driver is smart and effective. These problems are just growing pains and haven't kept me from doing any work, except for the time they've killed trying to figure out what to do about them. _Joe (jbormel@warren.med.harvard.edu) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 20:44:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29714 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 20:44:07 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA10109; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 21:17:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 21:17:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA10101; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 21:17:47 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA19148 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 20:17:22 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199403310217.AA19148@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: FAQ released To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 20:17:22 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR The TP750 FAQ has been released. I sent it in six parts to the mailing list. It's formatted to 70 characters wide and each part is no longer than 200 lines. It will also be available for anonymous FTP at assistant.beckman.uiuc.edu in the wasserman/thinkpad directory (that may be under pub, I'm not sure). Thanks to Stanley Wasserman for the FTP site. The archives will also be made available soon. How do you guys want it? Just the way it is all saved and messy or would you guys like some formatting to it? I'm thinking of whipping up a program that could remove some redundant headers as well as clean it up a bit...does anyone know of a program to do this already? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 30 21:29:55 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17568 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 30 Mar 1994 21:29:51 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA13073; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 22:03:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 22:03:23 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA13066; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 22:03:20 -0500 Received: from FirstPerson.COM (rampart.EBay.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA05131; Wed, 30 Mar 94 19:03:06 PST Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by FirstPerson.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20206; Wed, 30 Mar 94 19:02:45 PST Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03897; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:02:01 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA28716; Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:03:56 +0800 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:03:56 +0800 From: Chuck.McManis@firstperson.com (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9403310303.AA28716@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: meister@cats.ucsc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 2.88 fdd Status: OR On the subject of 2.88 vs 1.44 floppies and using 1.44's as 2.88s. Ever since someone figured out you could 'punch' the hole on the edge of a 5.25" floppy on the Apple II to get "double sided" for free the debate has raged on as to why one would buy expensive floppies when the 'regular' ones could be made to work. And the answer is of course because the data on the floppy is worth it. Several myths have be propogated about floppies, none of which are true (as verified by engineers withing nearly every major floppy disk maker) these are: o All floppies use the same base material, only the packaging an labelling are different. o Single Density floppies can be used as double density floppies if you don't compress the data. o Both sides of a floppy are the same, whether they are single sided or double sided. (generally everything is double sided today) o You can make a double density floppy drive out of a single densitry drive by doubling the write clock. The reality is that the floppy market is pretty cutthroat and the prices reflect that. If you 'cheat' by convincing your system to use a disk that isn't certified for the data density you are using then don't cry when you lose that data. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 31 05:03:44 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29695 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 31 Mar 1994 05:03:42 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA16542; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 05:38:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 05:38:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nic.hookup.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA16534; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 05:38:29 -0500 Received: from vetter.hookup.net (vetter.hookup.net [198.133.162.55]) by nic.hookup.net (8.6.8/1.138) with SMTP id FAA05553; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 05:38:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 05:38:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199403311038.FAA05553@nic.hookup.net> X-Sender: vetter@hookup.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: vetter@hookup.net (Tim Vetter) Subject: NextStep, mouse trails, 3rd party HD's X-Mailer: Status: OR 1. Anyone hear of the NextStep O/S being successfully run on a TP750? 2. Mono screen Windows 3.1 users: Any of you find the Windows mouse pointers/cursors difficult to spot under hostile lighting conditions? On previous laptops I have been able to select the "Mouse Trails" option in the Control Panel "Mouse" applet to make the pointer more visible, but on the 750 the corresponding checkbox is greyed out. I assume this is a limitation of IBM's video driver; has anyone else found otherwise? 3. Can someone point me at some third-party sources for TP-compatible hard-drives (internal)? I am based out of Europe these days where hardware pickings are a little slim. Directly E-mailed responses are OK; if there's general interest in these topics, mail me and I'll compile and post summaries. Might I suggest this sort of approach would ease the group's message overload a little, as opposed to a having a mass posting for every single O/S- and configuration-related issue. Thanks all, Tim -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Vetter vetter@hookup.net 73 Warren Road voice 519-579-9904 Kitchener, Ontario fax 519-571-9520 N2M 4T6 Canada -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 31 14:05:23 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25896 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:05:20 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA25344; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:30:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:30:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc8.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA25331; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:30:47 -0500 From: Message-Id: <9403311930.AA26280@husc8.harvard.edu> Subject: heeeeeelp!!!! bsd won't install!!! (how do i install patches?) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:30:35 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Help! I formatted my HD for NetBSD. I have the 2 install + 1 boot floppies from the image site at ftp.iastate.edu. I also have Keith Moore's patches for NetBSD. Question: do I install the pathces to the kernel on the floppy I just made from the images I download? My system will not boot off the floppies. But, then...if I hafta install off the floppies, then I cannot patch them from DOS (General failure error reading drive A...blah blah blah). This is frustrating...I have the patches on my DOS hard drive...but I have no way to patch the floppy BSD kernel since I can't read the disk!!!! Arrrrrgh!!!!! If anyone has a solution for this (read: patched kernel boot disk, if possible), please email me asap! Thanks all! -- Derek P.S. Keith, are you out there :-)? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 31 15:03:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24152 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 31 Mar 1994 15:03:46 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA04677; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 15:39:13 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 15:39:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc8.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA04670; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 15:39:11 -0500 From: Message-Id: <9403312039.AA28670@husc8.harvard.edu> Subject: netbsd... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 15:39:07 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR one other thing...is there a way to mount a bsd floppy disk from dos? If so...this could potentially alleviate my problem... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 31 15:27:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05157 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 31 Mar 1994 15:27:26 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA06766; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:03:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:03:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc8.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA06749; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:03:17 -0500 From: Message-Id: <9403312103.AA29566@husc8.harvard.edu> Subject: one MORE thing ;-) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:03:07 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR oh...right...sorry one more thing... if this willl help anyone: i get: Error: c(0), h(0), s(18) at startup...:( over and over and over again From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 1 00:29:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29447 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 1 Apr 1994 00:29:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA13325; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 01:09:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 01:09:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA13318; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 01:09:46 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA18135 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 94 00:58:27 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E18A78; Fri, 1 Apr 94 00:49:10 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Gravis GamePad..etc From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.345818.700.0CE18A78@channel1.com> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 94 23:33:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Gravis GamePad..etc Question.....is it normal for the screen colors (750c) to become a bit *washed out*, when you look at the screen other then strait ahead? Note to the game buffs out there. Colorado Spectrum has a *brand new* Notepad Game Port Adopter, that's fully compatible with the *very* popular Gravis GamePad joystick. I guess the previous adopter couldn't supply enough "juice" for the Gravis to work properly. Colorado Spectrum number: 1-800-238-5983 Price: $5?.00 Joseph From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 1 07:07:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16352 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 1 Apr 1994 07:07:19 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id HAA20383; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 07:50:45 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 07:50:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id HAA20376; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 07:50:41 -0500 Received: from news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.4.2]) by fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.2) id ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 05:44:38 -0700 Received: by news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.2; from uucp@localhost) id ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 05:45:24 -0700 Received: from nucleus.UUCP by dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca (4.1/Cuc2.2) id AA07710; Thu, 31 Mar 94 19:11:03 MST Message-Id: <9404010211.AA07710@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca> Received: by nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (1.64/waf) via UUCP; Thu, 31 Mar 94 19:00:14 MST for tp750@cs.utk.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Tim Kary) Subject: Re: Comm. problems Date: Thu, 31 Mar 94 17:56:28 MST Organization: Atomic Data Communications X-Maildoor: MajorMAIL V1.61 Status: OR Wayne: Your message of March 28, 1994 to Chris Schumann read: > I've been using EZPlay for a month and it has worked flawlessly. > >I've been able to load all of the software high and have 589K > left, even >with Smartdrive loaded low. I'm using IBM DOS 6.1/Windows 3.1 > on my 750Cs. As a new owner of a 750Cs I would be interested in seeing the make-up of your config.sys file. Could you put it on the list? I have loaded te new BIOS, but am unfamiliar with the EZPlay system (except that I know it exists). I agree with Chris, that any driver that takes more memory below the 640K boundary must be unloaded. I am running MS-DOS 6.2 and Windows 3.1, MemMaker is installed, and I still can only free up 514K of conventional memory. The 64K upper memory is full, but there still exists a large chunk of upper memory listed as being "reserved". Is there a way of accessing this reserved area? Any help would be appreciated. Overall I am pleased with the 750Cs except for the apparent lack of application memory. I am also using the Megahertz XJ1144 PCMCIA fax/modem - I love it!:-) Any body else have any other suggestions to increase application memory? I've also tried QEMM Ver. 7.03 - no luck. After 45 minutes trying various configurations, the tech rep concluded that QEMM was not compatible with this system.:-( Thanks in advance! Tim Kary ---------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Kary twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca 403-262-7021 403-262-1392(FAX) T.Kary@genie.geis.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 1 10:14:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24968 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 1 Apr 1994 10:14:01 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA02115; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 10:45:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 10:45:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA02102; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 10:45:16 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA03254 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 94 10:42:21 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E18A99; Fri, 1 Apr 94 10:34:56 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 750c BAG From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.346056.700.0CE18A99@channel1.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 94 07:42:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: 750c BAG Can someone please suggest a *bag* for the 750c? Please also include price range (if possible), and phone number!! Thanks.... Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 1 15:44:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22416 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 1 Apr 1994 15:43:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA24153; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 16:08:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 16:08:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA24146; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 16:08:55 -0500 Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id NAA04507; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 13:09:32 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 13:09:32 -0800 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199404012109.NAA04507@mail.netcom.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, joseph.pereira@channel1.com Subject: Re: 750c BAG Status: OR Do you have the Dock1 docking station. I just got mine ( still in the Ohhhh ahhhhhh!!! stage. I got the bag IBM Direct have available. They also have one just for the 750C at $79. Martin Smith msjtih@netcom.com msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 1 22:53:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28715 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 1 Apr 1994 22:53:06 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA21145; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 23:33:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 23:33:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA21138; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 23:33:24 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA09341; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 20:31:53 -0800 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 20:34:02 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <74042.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Comm. problems Status: OR In message Thu, 31 Mar 94 17:56:28 MST, twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Tim Kary) writes: > Overall I am pleased with the 750Cs except for the apparent lack of > application memory. Wow. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe this is some IBM conspiracy to get people to use OS/2. I was debugging somebody else's program on my TP750. The program was overlaid so it'd fit in <600k of memory. Of course after compiling and linking it it wouldn't run. I didn't know if the overlaying was the problem, or if there was another bug in the program. Solution? I use OS/2 so I changed my DOS box setting to mono video mode. That gives DOS programs 700k or so of free memory. I compiled it without overlays and ran it (650k RAM required to run). Decided it was a bug in the program. OS/2 has support for my PCMCIA modem, audio, SB emulation, etc. all installed. Those drivers just don't take any of the lower 640k needed by DOS programs. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 1 23:47:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07976 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 1 Apr 1994 23:47:09 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA23974; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 00:21:16 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 00:21:15 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from werple.apana.org.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA23926; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 00:20:31 -0500 Received: (from guardian@localhost) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id PAA08454; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 15:19:24 +1000 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 15:17:31 +1000 (EST) From: Nick Allan Subject: network pcmcia with thinkpad 750 To: thinkpad mailinglist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hello everyone I'm having some problems with my ethernet network adapter (pcmcia) on my thinkpad750. Can someone please let me see how they have got their config.sys setup. I can't seem to be able to get socket services loaded with the card driver. Thanks a lot in advance anyone that can help. Regards nick From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 2 11:00:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11556 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 2 Apr 1994 10:59:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA08763; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 11:35:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 11:35:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA08738; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 11:35:00 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA18497 for ; Sat, 2 Apr 94 11:29:23 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E18B02; Sat, 2 Apr 94 11:26:06 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Thanks re:Bag From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.347009.700.0CE18B02@channel1.com> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 94 09:36:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Thanks re:Bag Thanks for all the responses I received on the *bag* requests! Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 2 11:01:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11852 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 2 Apr 1994 11:01:28 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA08872; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 11:36:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 11:36:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA08863; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 11:35:59 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA18495 for ; Sat, 2 Apr 94 11:29:19 -0500 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E18B01; Sat, 2 Apr 94 11:26:06 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Bad pixels From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.346973.700.0CE18B01@channel1.com> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 94 09:06:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Bad pixels I've noticed one bad pixel on the bottom left corner of the screen. Is this typical? Thanks, Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 2 14:57:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06383 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 2 Apr 1994 14:57:17 -0600 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA22526; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 15:38:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 15:38:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA22519; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 15:38:29 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA12384; Sat, 2 Apr 94 15:38:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 94 15:38:15 -0500 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9404022038.AA12384@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, joseph.pereira@channel1.com Subject: Re: Bad pixels Status: OR "one bad pixel on the bottom left corner of the screen. Is this typical?" no, that is not typical, typically the TFT screens used on the 750C will have more than one bad pixel. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 3 10:21:55 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07591 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 3 Apr 1994 10:21:51 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA00735; Sun, 3 Apr 1994 10:43:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Apr 1994 10:43:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from werple.apana.org.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA00728; Sun, 3 Apr 1994 10:43:00 -0400 Received: (from guardian@localhost) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id AAA20511; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 00:42:28 +1000 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 00:41:47 +1000 (EST) From: Nick Allan Subject: faq To: thinkpad mailinglist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hi all Can someone email me the faq. I accidently deleted it. Regards Nick From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 3 11:28:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13072 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 3 Apr 1994 11:28:45 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA05598; Sun, 3 Apr 1994 12:10:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Apr 1994 12:10:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from worldlink.worldlink.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA05571; Sun, 3 Apr 1994 12:10:00 -0400 Received: by worldlink.worldlink.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-Worldlink) id AA10893; Sun, 3 Apr 94 12:09:43 -0400 Message-Id: <2974466992.0.p00471@psilink.com> In-Reply-To: <40.346056.700.0CE18A99@channel1.com> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 94 09:59:23 -0600 To: "Joseph Pereira" Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "Robert J. Della Penna" Subject: Re: 750c BAG X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.6.2) Status: OR After hearing about PORT through this group, I contacted them at (800) 242-3133 for sales, or call (800) 322-PORT for FaxBack Information, and ordered one of their cases. Surprisingly, there were two (2) construction problems with the case. After contacting them, they promptly sent another case two-day air. They have a strange practice of billing you for the additional case until the original is returned -- they have been ripped-off by too many customers not returning the original product. Prices range from $89 to approximatedly $300 in various styles. I replaced a Targus with the PORT. I would not hesitate to buy another one. It is the best case I've seen and offers great utility. In fact there is a tendency to put too much in the case. BTW, this summer their products will be offered by CompUSA. Today, only mail order is available. Good luck. >DATE: Fri, 1 Apr 94 07:42:00 -0500 >FROM: Joseph Pereira > >Subject: 750c BAG > >Can someone please suggest a *bag* for the 750c? Please also include >price range (if possible), and phone number!! >Thanks.... >Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 3 23:06:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12713 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 3 Apr 1994 23:06:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA17940; Sun, 3 Apr 1994 23:49:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 3 Apr 1994 23:49:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA17934; Sun, 3 Apr 1994 23:49:40 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id XAA21677; Sun, 3 Apr 1994 23:49:19 -0400 Message-Id: <199404040349.XAA21677@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu), moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: one MORE thing ;-) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:03:07 EST." <9403312103.AA29566@husc8.harvard.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 1994 23:49:18 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR > oh...right...sorry one more thing... > > if this willl help anyone: > > i get: > > Error: c(0), h(0), s(18) at startup...:( > > over and over and over again You need to have access to a netbsd system that's already working, before you can build a netbsd system that runs on the tp750. You apply the various patches to the netbsd kernel source on the working system, build a new boot floppy, and use that boot floppy to install netbsd on the thinkpad. Both the kernel itself (/netbsd) and the floppy boot block have to be patched before netbsd will run. In this case, the message you are getting is from the boot block. Because the thinkpad BIOS says there are 36 sectors per track, the boot block tries to read that many sectors at a time. But because this is a 1.44 Mb disk, there are only 18 sectors per track! In the next few days I'll make a netbsd/tp750 boot floppy disk image available for anonymous ftp. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 4 01:47:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16477 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 4 Apr 1994 01:47:28 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA27001; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 02:28:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 02:28:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA26992; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 02:28:36 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA22155; Mon, 4 Apr 94 01:22:32 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 94 01:22:32 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9404040522.AA22155@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: suspend mode Status: OR sometimes when I close the lid, it takes ages to actually get into suspend mode, this seems to particularly happen if I am running disk intensive stuff, like heavy compiles. what's going on here? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 4 11:04:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19476 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:04:27 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA12448; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:41:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:41:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc7.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA12426; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:41:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:41:00 -0400 Message-Id: <9404041541.AA06958@husc7.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@husc.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Subject: IBM floppy drives (fwd) X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi all! Just came upon some info. on the TP 750C & Linux! I'll try this out and let you all know about this asap! Later. -- Derek >From: xxxxxxxx@husc >Subject: IBM floppy drives (fwd) >To: chan4 (Derek Chan) >Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 13:38:52 -0500 (EST) >Content-Length: 1902 > >Forwarded message: >>From xxxxxxxx@husc Sat Apr 2 04:17:29 1994 >Date: Sat, 2 Apr 94 04:17:24 -0500 >From: xxxxxxxx@husc >To: xxxxxx >Subject: IBM floppy drives (fwd) >Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Yesterday Afternoon > > >Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc >Subject: ThinkPad 750C floppy controller and linux >From: dan@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Daniel R. Grayson) >Date: 2 Apr 94 04:03:30 GMT >Reply-To: dan@math.uiuc.edu >Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana >NNTP-Posting-Host: orion.math.uiuc.edu > >In case anyone wants to know, here is how we just managed to get linux >working with the floppy controller on the IBM ThinkPad 750C. The main >difference is that when you read from port 3f7 and look at bit 7 to see >whether the media has been changed, the controller reports 1 if not, and 0 if >so (at least when the motor is on: when the motor is off, the status of the >bit never changes). This is exactly the reverse of the usual situation. > >To fix it, one must edit drivers/block/floppy.c so that the three occurences >of > > inb(FD_DIR) & 0x80 > >are replaced by > > !(inb(FD_DIR) & 0x80) > >We don't know what kind of controller chip it uses, because IBM says that >information is PROPRIETARY! But we managed to figure it out anyway with a >great little msdos program called iospy which comes with the book "The >Undocumented PC" by Frank van Gilluwe (publ Addison-Wesley, isbn >0-201-62277-7). Iospy will display the contents of ports on the screen in >an out of the way place while you use debug to step through the BIOS or >whatever. Get it! > > >.............................................................................. >If Murphy's Law were really true, every time you went to take a breath, all the >air would be on the other side of the room. >.............................................................................. >ecolson@husc.harvard.edu ecolson@ecolson.student.harvard.edu > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 4 13:19:38 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19076 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 4 Apr 1994 13:19:34 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA22052; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 13:57:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 13:57:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA22045; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 13:57:13 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id NAA22814; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 13:56:52 -0400 Message-Id: <199404041756.NAA22814@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM floppy drives (fwd) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 04 Apr 1994 11:41:00 EDT." <9404041541.AA06958@husc7.harvard.edu> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 1994 13:56:51 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR > Hi all! Just came upon some info. on the TP 750C & Linux! I'll try this > out and let you all know about this asap! > > Later. beware that this may not by itself fix the problem. My floppy driver for linux had essentially the same changes described below. With those patches, linux could read/write the floppy drive, but it wouldn't recognize disk changes -- so when reading it would return cached data from the last diskette! Keith Moore > >In case anyone wants to know, here is how we just managed to get linux > >working with the floppy controller on the IBM ThinkPad 750C. The main > >difference is that when you read from port 3f7 and look at bit 7 to see > >whether the media has been changed, the controller reports 1 if not, and > >0 if so (at least when the motor is on: when the motor is off, the > >status of the bit never changes). This is exactly the reverse of the > > usual situation. > >To fix it, one must edit drivers/block/floppy.c so that the three > >occurences of > > > > inb(FD_DIR) & 0x80 > > > >are replaced by > > > > !(inb(FD_DIR) & 0x80) > > > >We don't know what kind of controller chip it uses, because IBM says that > >information is PROPRIETARY! But we managed to figure it out anyway with a > >great little msdos program called iospy which comes with the book "The > >Undocumented PC" by Frank van Gilluwe (publ Addison-Wesley, isbn > >0-201-62277-7). Iospy will display the contents of ports on the screen in > >an out of the way place while you use debug to step through the BIOS or > >whatever. Get it! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 4 15:04:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10931 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:04:51 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA00745; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:38:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:38:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA00738; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:38:06 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA25854 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:37:47 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199404041937.AA25854@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: TP750 Audio info To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:37:46 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Forwarded message: >From stevens@watson.ibm.com Mon Apr 4 09:31:59 1994 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 10:32:06 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9404041432.AA23229@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu In-Reply-To: Sean Chou's message of Sun, 3 Apr 1994 03:37:10 -0500 (CDT) <199404030837.AA05083@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: tp750 answer >Thanks a lot for the info! Now, do you know where we can get info >on the Thinkpad audio chip specifically? Especially, details on >how to program to it? I would be glad to look into it, though I need a little more info. How do we know (other than by rumor) that these are the vendors? If I could get an actual part number, that would be good. I have a few inside contacts at Analog Devices, I used to work there. --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 4 15:13:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15202 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:13:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA00372; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:34:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:34:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA00363; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:34:09 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA23818 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:33:49 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199404041933.AA23818@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: suspend mode To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:33:49 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <9404040522.AA22155@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at Apr 4, 94 01:22:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > sometimes when I close the lid, it takes ages to actually get into suspend > mode, this seems to particularly happen if I am running disk intensive > stuff, like heavy compiles. > > what's going on here? I think that's something desirable. If the notebook were to suspend on close (like some do) and you had data in mid-transfer or dsik access going on, you'd lose a lot and probably bring down OS/2's file system (or under W4W, bring down the whole disk). It's just saving all the data and preparing for suspend. From dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU Mon Apr 4 17:26:07 1994 Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15129 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:25:58 -0500 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA27250; Mon, 4 Apr 94 18:25:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 94 18:25:38 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9404042225.AA27250@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: suspend mode Status: OR "It's just saving all the data and preparing for suspend" Oh no it's not. The disk intensive program continues executing, sometimes for several minutes, before it finally suspends. Obviously we don't want to interrupt a disk transfer that is mid way through, but that does not explain what I observe. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 4 19:50:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07307 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 4 Apr 1994 19:49:59 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA21397; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 20:30:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 20:30:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nukestep.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA21384; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 20:30:11 -0400 Received: by nukestep.mit.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA00244; Mon, 4 Apr 94 20:30:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 94 20:30:12 -0500 From: Gregory B Howland Message-Id: <9404050130.AA00244@nukestep.mit.edu> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.100.RR) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.100.RR) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Is there a FAQ Status: OR Is there a FAQ for this mailing list? Thanks in advance, Greg From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 5 00:27:07 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08813 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 5 Apr 1994 00:26:56 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA02638; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 23:06:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 23:06:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA02630; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 23:06:32 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA19847 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 94 22:50:09 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E18C66; Mon, 4 Apr 94 21:45:08 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Conventional Memory From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.348996.700.0CE18C66@channel1.com> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 94 20:36:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Conventional Memory Greetings..... I'm posting my Auto/Conv hoping, actually praying, that I may get suggestions on improving the Conventional Memory. Right now I have: 466K (476880 bytes) free Autoexec.bat @loadhigh C:\DOS\SHARE.EXE /l:500 /f:5100 LH C:\CPS\vwatch LH C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE /U @ECHO OFF SET READIBM=C:\READIBM\READIBM.PRO PROMPT $p$g PATH too lazy to include it! ;) SET SYMANTEC=C:\NUDOS\SYMANTEC SET NU=C:\NUDOS SET TEMP=C:\TEMP\ LH C:\DOS\MOUSE.COM LH C:\NUDOS\IMAGE C: Note: I've added and removed the [LH] command above, it doesn't affect the Conventional Memory size at all. I have no idea why not! Since I added the [ /U ] to SMARTDRV, it now displays all this Smartdrv info at logon and slows it down a bit. Any way to avoid it? Config.sys device=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS FILES=40 BUFFERS=10 DOS=HIGH,umb DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE X=C000-C0FF I=C100-C7FF DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDSS01.SYS /S0=2 DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDOSCS.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\DICRMU01.SYS /MA=C000-C0FF DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\$ICPMDOS.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE DEVICEhigh=C:\IBMVESA\VESA.EXE STACKS=9,256 DEVICEhigh=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD\TPAUDDD.SYS I would appreciate any help, Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 5 01:55:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00266 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 5 Apr 1994 01:55:43 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA14922; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 02:23:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 02:22:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nukestep.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA14913; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 02:22:58 -0400 Received: by nukestep.mit.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA00403; Tue, 5 Apr 94 02:22:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 02:22:46 -0500 From: Gregory B Howland Message-Id: <9404050722.AA00403@nukestep.mit.edu> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.100.RR) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.100.RR) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Replacing VRAM Status: OR Is it possible to replace the WD90c24 chipset with the WD90c31 chipset or replace it with any other chipset that has 2MB of VRAM? I want to be able to drive an external monitor at 1024x768 resolution in 16 bit color directly from the notebook. -- Greg From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 5 12:33:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22124 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 5 Apr 1994 12:33:41 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA28240; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 12:50:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 12:50:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA28218; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 12:50:38 -0400 From: Received: from bartles (BARTLES.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA08697; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:45:48 CDT Received: by bartles (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA05303; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:49:40 CDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:49:40 CDT Message-Id: <9404051649.AA05303@bartles> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 750P Status: OR Does anyone have any experience with the 750P (the pen version of the 750?), or specifically, with the 750P upgrade? If so, what do you think of it? Specifically, what screen does it use? I've seen the pictures of it, but I can't tell if it uses the big active color screen or if the screen is different (I suspect the latter). Nor could I tell anything about the mechanics of removing, flipping, and exchanging screens (can the latter even be done, i.e., can my machine be a 750C some days, and a 750P others?) Thanks, Wes From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 5 16:16:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09025 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:16:12 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA18252; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:52:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:52:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from news.std.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA18243; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:52:37 -0400 Received: from world.std.com by news.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.1) id AB07597; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:41:39 -0400 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA20987; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:41:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:41:35 -0400 From: eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell) Message-Id: <199404052041.AA20987@world.std.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Intro and NE200 problems Status: OR Hello, Name is Eric and I used the 750 at work. I work for a company that deals with power systems testing. I am trying to get a NE200 to work properly on a Novell Netware 2.x network under both DOS and OS/2. I was able to get it going under DOS but the preferred server setting does not work in the net.cfg. The server I am trying to connect to is the second one on the server list. The desktop machine has no problems. IBM says that there is no real standard for PCMCIA cards. Novell and Eagleware do not seem to know anything about it other than "all 750 users are having problems". The most helpful seems to be Socket Tech (We got some PCMCIA serial port from them) and it is not their card. OS/2 does not work at all. Can someone email me the FAQ? I cannot seem to get to the location listed at uiuc.edu. Address is eac@world.std.com. 73 Eric eac@world.std.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 5 17:27:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15637 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 5 Apr 1994 17:27:42 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA23790; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 18:00:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 18:00:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id RAA23757; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 17:59:59 -0400 From: Received: from bartles (BARTLES.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA19435; Tue, 5 Apr 94 16:55:24 CDT Received: by bartles (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA08378; Tue, 5 Apr 94 16:59:16 CDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 16:59:16 CDT Message-Id: <9404052159.AA08378@bartles> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Does the 750C use 3.3 or 5 volt memory cards? Status: OR I've been under the impression that the 750C used a 3.3 volt card, but Kingston just told us that it is a 5 volt card. Is this consistent with what everyone else knows? Thanks, Wes From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 5 17:40:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21817 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 5 Apr 1994 17:40:23 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA25251; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 18:18:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 18:18:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA25230; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 18:18:13 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA03805; Tue, 5 Apr 94 18:18:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 18:18:02 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9404052218.AA03805@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Does the 750C use 3.3 or 5 volt memory cards? Status: OR as far as I know, the memory cards are 5 volt and only 5 volt. This is certainly what you would expect in this machine. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 5 18:56:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21791 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 5 Apr 1994 18:56:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA28982; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 19:22:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 19:22:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA28973; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 19:22:05 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA08167 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 5 Apr 1994 18:21:42 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199404052321.AA08167@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: TP750 FAQ 1.1 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 18:21:41 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <9404050130.AA00244@nukestep.mit.edu> from "Gregory B Howland" at Apr 4, 94 08:29:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR The newest FAQ (version 1.1) should be out tonight. Thanks to all the people who sent me notes to improve it! It's available for anonymous FTP at assistant.beckman.uiuc.edu in the wasserman/thinkpad directory. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 5 20:28:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27577 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 5 Apr 1994 20:28:30 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA07486; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:07:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:07:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from news.std.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA07475; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:07:47 -0400 Received: from world.std.com by news.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.1) id AA17111; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:07:43 -0400 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA12146; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:07:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:07:42 -0400 From: eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell) Message-Id: <199404060107.AA12146@world.std.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: NE200 and disk updates FTP Site Status: OR Hello, Thanks for the copy of the FAQ. I found either the message announcing this group on comp.sys.laptop or my writing it transposed part of the FAQ site host name. I now have access to the FAQ. When I said it does not work for OS/2, I mean that the NE200 does not work. The NE200 is a PCMCIA card for thin coax ethernet. It requires external power. It was made or designed for Novell by Eagle Tech. I currently have: Utility Disk Version 1.1 - I know there is an update. Video Features Disk Version 1.12 Audio Features Disk Version 1.10 I can get updates on CI$, but is there a FTP site where updates are available? Another person at our company downloaded a Bios upgrade from IBM's BBS that has also been applied to this machine. Thanks for the help. 73 Eric eac@world.std.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 5 20:39:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01639 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 5 Apr 1994 20:39:02 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA08158; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:19:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:19:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA08152; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:19:17 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id VAA25658; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:18:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199404060118.VAA25658@wilma.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: care and feeding of batteries Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU From: Keith Moore Date: Tue, 05 Apr 1994 21:18:54 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Okay, so I have a tp750 with two batteries. Recently I went on a trip only to find out that one of the batteries was non-functional. Upon my return, I eventually got it working again, but only by power-cycling the battery and charging it with the quick-charger -- the battery wouldn't charge at all if I put it in the thinkpad. Apparently the "bad" battery ran down to the point where the thinkpad wouldn't talk to it anymore. I gather that I need to switch back and forth between the batteries to make sure that neither one is neglected. Is there some simple regimen I can use to make sure both batteries will be in working order when I need them? Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 6 08:23:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06428 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 08:22:57 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA02215; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 09:01:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 09:01:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA02207; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 09:01:22 -0400 Message-Id: <199404061301.JAA02207@CS.UTK.EDU> Via: uk.ac.kingston; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 13:56:45 +0100 Received: from ceres.kingston.ac.uk by mercury.kingston.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <10680-0@mercury.kingston.ac.uk>; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 13:56:59 +0100 Received: from kingston.ac.uk by ceres.kingston.ac.uk id <04218-0@ceres.kingston.ac.uk>; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 13:56:24 +0100 From: Sergio Terenas Subject: Still on batteries... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: MMDF/Ream v4.16b Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 13:56:24 +0100 Original-Sender: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk Status: OR Hi all, After I turn my computer off at night with 97/99% battery and before I switch it on in the morning or next night with 88/93% I lose about 10% a night. What should I do in the morning, discharge the battery completely and charge it again or just keep using from the power supply. I heard once the battery is a bit discharged, you should empty it before charging it again. Is a 10% loss a night reasonable or you think there's a problem with the battery ? On another question, is anyone doing anything to get the updated drivers disks on a ftp site ? Greetings, Sergio Terenas From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 6 10:53:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28969 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 10:53:52 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA15349; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 11:30:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 11:30:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA15295; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 11:29:58 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA06403; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 08:29:48 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) id IAA00353; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 08:29:41 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199404061529.IAA00353@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Still on batteries... To: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk (Sergio Terenas) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 08:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199404061301.JAA02207@CS.UTK.EDU> from "Sergio Terenas" at Apr 6, 94 01:56:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > After I turn my computer off at night with 97/99% battery and before I switch > it on in the morning or next night with 88/93% I lose about 10% a night. > > What should I do in the morning, discharge the battery completely and charge > it again or just keep using from the power supply. I heard once the battery > is a bit discharged, you should empty it before charging it again. Is a 10% > loss a night reasonable or you think there's a problem with the battery ? That's acceptable loss and about what I get. As for whether you should charge it again or discharge it first--hey, only you can tell. Personally, I have no problem re-charging after a partial discharge. It doesn't bother me at all. Nevertheless, you do need to "condition" it once in a while (run it through a full charge/discharge cycle) in order to maintain battery life. That doesn't mean you have to do it constantly, just every so often. I'd say every 2 to 4 weeks do a full cycle. Other than that, don't worry about it. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 6 11:01:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02955 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 11:01:18 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA16089; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 11:40:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 11:40:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA16078; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 11:40:09 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA07020 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 08:40:05 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) id IAA01394 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 08:40:01 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199404061540.IAA01394@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: HELP! Funny rattling sounds in my TP! To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 08:40:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I am more than just a little bit worried. As of about two days ago, some funny little rattling sound has begun to occur in my TP750C. It does it only when you physically move it around or shake it, so its not anything bad with the hard drive or anything. But when I pick it up and move it, there is a small rattling sound-- like a broken piece of plastic or little metal item--somewhere in the right, rear corner that I cannot identify. I'm considering opening it up, but I don't want to risk messing up the warranty. Everything appears to function properly, but I don't like the sound of it--something's loose, there is no doubt about that. On a related note--does anyone know how to tighten the screen hinges? The right hand screen hinge seems to be a touch loose (maybe its connected to the noise?). It was loose for a couple of weeks, but I never go around to mentioning it for the list. Ideas, please? ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 6 12:26:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12609 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:25:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA21567; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:53:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:52:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA21444; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:52:26 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA10805 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:38:05 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E18D1A; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:31:57 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: tpaudvxd.386 From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.350048.700.0CE18D1A@channel1.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 94 10:04:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: tpaudvxd.386 Greetings... After I installed WFW 3.11 I installed the AUDIO drivers for the 750c, both Dos and Windows versions. I then booted the system without any problems. When I tried to boot Windows I received the following message: ......................................... A device has been specified more then once in the System.ini file, or a device specified in System.ini conflicts with a device which is being loaded by an MS-DOS device driver or application. Remove the duplicate entry from the System.ini file, and restart Windows. Duplicate device: C:\Windows\system\tpaudvxd.386 ...................................... I checked the System.ini for duplicates and found none. The only reference to tpaudvxd.386 was at the start of [386Enh] System.ini [386Enh] device=tpaudvxd.386 I removed this line from [386Enh] and Windows booted without any problem. The sound appears to work. Does anyone know whats going on, what does this line in the [386Enh] suppose to do, and do I needed it for anything? Thanks..... Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 6 14:30:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15945 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 14:30:41 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA02292; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:00:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:00:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA02284; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:00:41 -0400 Received: from FirstPerson.COM (rampart.EBay.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA19856; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:00:04 PDT Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by FirstPerson.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29996; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:59:40 PDT Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA19533; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 11:58:26 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA24982; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:00:22 +0800 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:00:22 +0800 From: Chuck.McManis@firstperson.com (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9404061900.AA24982@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: HELP! Funny rattling sounds in my TP! X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: OR You've now officially 'lost' the locking clip. On the right edge of the keyboard toward the middle is a clip that goes through the keyboard and into the case. On the bottom is a sliding latch that you can put through it and then padlock. Mine kept falling out so I just took it off and put it in my carrying case. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 6 15:16:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08777 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:15:53 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA05151; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:34:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:34:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA05144; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:34:18 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA13945; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:33:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:33:58 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9404061933.AA13945@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Chuck.McManis@firstperson.com, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: HELP! Funny rattling sounds in my TP! Status: OR "Mine [locking clip] keeps falling off ha-ha-ha that's a good one, a security gizmo that falls off without provocation, REAL SECURE! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 6 17:33:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11343 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 17:32:58 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA18462; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:07:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:07:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA18453; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:07:37 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com ([153.113.1.1]) by dsd.northrop.com (4.1/Gatemaster-4.1) id AA12360; Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:16:10 CDT Received: from ast.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0pofen-0009bcC; Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:01 CDT Received: by ast.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0pofli-000O0FC; Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:08 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Still on batteries... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 17:08:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > After I turn my computer off at night with 97/99% battery and before I switch > > it on in the morning or next night with 88/93% I lose about 10% a night. > > > > What should I do in the morning, discharge the battery completely and charge > > it again or just keep using from the power supply. I heard once the battery > > is a bit discharged, you should empty it before charging it again. Is a 10% > > loss a night reasonable or you think there's a problem with the battery ? > > That's acceptable loss and about what I get. I disagree. That means that in 10 days the battery is fully discharged while just stting on the shelf. There is no whay that the micro in the battery is using that much power, or that the self discharge of the battery is that great. I am still planning to call IBM on this topic. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 6 17:35:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12514 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 17:35:50 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA18067; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:03:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:03:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA18060; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:03:02 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA01721; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 13:55:46 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id NAA12837; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 13:55:42 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199404062055.NAA12837@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: HELP! Funny rattling sounds in my TP! To: Chuck.McManis@firstperson.com (Chuck McManis) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 13:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9404061900.AA24982@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> from "Chuck McManis" at Apr 6, 94 12:00:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > > You've now officially 'lost' the locking clip. On the right edge of the > keyboard toward the middle is a clip that goes through the keyboard and into > the case. On the bottom is a sliding latch that you can put through it > and then padlock. > > Mine kept falling out so I just took it off and put it in my carrying case. Thanks for responding Chuck, but that can't be it--my locking clip is quite securely attached to the right edge of the keyboard just as it should be. This "rattling sound" is coming from somewhere in the back-right of the computer, but not in the PCMCIA slots (I checked) and not in the normal swap-out area where the battery, drive, and floppy drive are encased. That's why it concerns me. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 6 17:54:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18944 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 17:54:51 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA19660; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:21:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:21:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from epas.utoronto.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA19652; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:21:05 -0400 Received: by epas.utoronto.ca (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA18440; Wed, 6 Apr 94 18:04:57 -0400 From: jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca (James Cummings) Message-Id: <9404062204.AA18440@epas.utoronto.ca> Subject: AT&T Kit help needed. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Think-Pad 750 Mailing list) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:04:56 -0500 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Could a user of the AT&T KIT PCMCIA 14.4 modem send me a copy of their config.sys/autoexec.bat and more importantly the settings (AT commands/&commands ) they have their modem set to. I've sorta got it working, (I'm connected aren't I? *smirk*), but I'm still having a couple problems... Thanks in advance, James jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca | 1994: Official Year of The Toronto Free-Net. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 6 19:23:52 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19175 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:23:45 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA22958; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:16:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:16:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms.macc.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA22948; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:16:13 -0400 Received: from VMSmail by vms.macc.wisc.edu; Wed, 06 Apr 94 18:16 CDT Message-Id: <24040618160191@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 94 18:16 CDT From: Chris Schumann Subject: More on batteries To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Status: OR I have noticed that my 750P will recharge during the night. It seems to get down to 90%, then charge up to 100%, then back down. It does this only if plugged in. Hunch: The battery light is powered by the battery when plugged in, and since it is a fancy, two-color LED, it may draw more power than the others. Try this: Charge to 100%, then unplug the machine and turn it off. See how much charge is left in the morning, chris From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 6 19:24:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19239 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:24:12 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA25809; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:57:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:57:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA25801; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:57:41 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA16608; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:57:37 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id QAA10578; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:57:31 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199404062357.QAA10578@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Still on batteries... To: strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Scott Stratmoen" at Apr 6, 94 05:08:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > That's acceptable loss and about what I get. > > I disagree. That means that in 10 days the battery is fully discharged > while just stting on the shelf. There is no whay that the micro in the > battery is using that much power, or that the self discharge of the > battery is that great. You haven't worked much with Nickel-Metal Hydride batteries have you?! They last longer in operation per size unit than Nickel-Cadmium, but they do not hold their charge as well over time. That's just the facts of life. You'll have to go to another battery technology if you want to avoid it, but they have their own set of advantages and disadvantages too. > I am still planning to call IBM on this topic. Have fun. It's not IBM's fault. Its just NiMh batteries. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48 & 100LX user, and...*Proud* to be Conservative! "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." -Calvin +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ | o o o o | | Just because we disagree doesn't | | <><><> <> | /-+-- --+X | mean I have to kill you. | | |||||| || | /> <\ | ...Unless, of course, I really want to... | +-------------+--------------+---------------------------------------------+ (Standard disclaimers apply--and if you're a liberal wacko, go soak your head.) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 6 20:11:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04560 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 20:11:29 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA29619; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 20:53:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 20:53:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from usceast.cs.scarolina.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA29612; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 20:53:25 -0400 Received: by usceast.cs.scarolina.edu (cs.grandpoobah.030594) From: Robert Castles Message-Id: <9403310153.AA05911@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu> Subject: My brightness has been fixed. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Mar 94 20:53:27 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR Ok, I've fixed my machines brightness problem, Onset by the use of PS2 Br I fixed it by taking out 16MB RAM card and putting it back in. I did this because I thought my memory was bad after the system diagnostics seemd to get stuck in memory test. It was just taking a long time! Lucky for me! castles@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu Now I have to decide if I want to try the brightness control again. It was very nice to have a bright screen without the batter plugged in... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 7 00:06:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26465 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:06:40 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA16070; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:49:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:49:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA16063; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:49:09 -0400 From: Received: from buddy.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id VAA21114; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 21:49:04 -0700 Received: by buddy.ucsc.edu (8.6.8/4.7) id VAA05539; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 21:49:02 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 21:49:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199404070449.VAA05539@buddy.ucsc.edu> To: strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Still on batteries... Status: OR I too lost approximately 10% of my charge overnight, while in hibernate mode. IBM tech support told me that the culprit was the smart power monitor on the battery, and that this could be avoided by removing the battery when fully charged and turning the power switch off. I tried this during spring break, when the TP remained plugged in to the AC adapter. When I reinstalled the battery it showed a 0 charge on the gauge. My estimate is that it had lost 50% of its charge while stored for a week with the power switch off. P.S. I for one would not care as much about estimating battery life if it were feasible to carry two or more spares. Following a suggestion from someone out there, I called Duracell about the possible availability of generic NiMh spares for the Thinkpad. Duracell is not very far along in the project, notwithstanding announcements made in the press. They are still at the stage of trying to persuade manufacturers to adopt standard sizes in their next models -- repeating a process that they went through some years ago with manufacturers of cameras. Duracell does not want to be responsible for computer batteries that are not recommended by the computer manufacturer -- or so it says. It hopes to have some NiMh batteries out later this year, but I am not optimistic that there will be a generic standard battery for the present generation of Thinkpads. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 7 05:05:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01663 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 7 Apr 1994 05:05:02 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA11259; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 05:40:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 05:40:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nic.hookup.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA11231; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 05:40:48 -0400 Received: from vetter.hookup.net (vetter.hookup.net [198.133.162.55]) by nic.hookup.net (8.6.8/1.140) with SMTP id FAA29875; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 05:40:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 05:40:23 -0400 Message-Id: <199404070940.FAA29875@nic.hookup.net> X-Sender: vetter@hookup.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: vetter@hookup.net (Tim Vetter) Subject: FDD problem w. PCTools Fastcopy utility, Hibernating on AC, Strange DOS mouse cursor behavior X-Mailer: Status: OR When I use the Fastcopy utility from Central Point PC Tools (mine's version 9.0) for duplicating floppies, the resulting copies are full of bad sector errors and frequently the boot section is also corrupt. So far I have only tried this with HD floppies formatted for 1.44 Mb, which is pretty much all I use. I have never had problems with this utility on any other machine. Is it a quirk of the 2.88 drive and/or controller, or is my TP broken? Perhaps others with PC Tools on their machines (or available) could give me a report. Also, my TP refuses to hibernate when the AC is plugged in. Is this a design feature, a hardware problem, or a matter of bad settings in my power-saving applets? Finally, under some DOS programs (DOS edit is typical) if I move the cursor suddenly, it changes shape from a single character block to a 3x3 block with the center character position clear, and will not change back unless I restart the program. This is not a major problem, but it makes me wonder whether the standard mouse.com driver that ships with MS-DOS 6.2 is completely compatible with the ThinkPad. Anyone else experienced something similar? Thanks, Tim -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Vetter vetter@hookup.net 73 Warren Road voice 519-579-9904 Kitchener, Ontario fax 519-571-9520 N2M 4T6 Canada -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 7 09:52:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08655 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:52:09 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA02152; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:27:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:27:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA02145; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:27:35 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA28389 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:17:29 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E18D88; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:03:42 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: AT&T Kit help needed. From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.351659.700.0CE18D88@channel1.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 94 23:48:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: AT&T Kit help needed. >Could a user of the AT&T KIT PCMCIA 14.4 modem send me a copy of their >config.sys/autoexec.bat and more importantly the settings >(AT commands/&commands ) they have their modem set to. >I've sorta got it working, (I'm connected aren't I? *smirk*), but I'm >still having a couple problems... James, would you mind forwarding me or/and posting the mail you get on this subject, here for all of us KIT owners. I'm in the process of receiving a KIT modem, so it would be of great help in setting it up! Thanks, Joseph ps: Thanks for all the ideas on improving memory! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 7 10:33:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24871 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:33:07 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA05354; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:07:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:07:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA05347; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:07:46 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 3287; Thu, 07 Apr 94 11:07:43 EDT Received: from YKTVMH by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 9230; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:07:42 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmh.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Thu, 07 Apr 94 11:07:41 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA23574; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:07:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:07:41 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9404071507.AA23574@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Sean Chou's message of Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:37:19 -0500 (CDT) <199404041937.AA25647@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: audio chip Status: OR OK, I have received complete data from Crystal Semiconductor on the CS4248 audio codec in the TP750. It is one of their standard off-the-shelf parts. Here is the general description of the part: "The CS4248 is a mixed signal integrated circuit that provides 16-bit audio for computer multimedia systems. The CS4248 includes stereo audio converters and complete on-chip filtering for record and playback of 16-bit audio data. The CS4248 combines conversion, analog mixing, and programmable gain and attenuation to provide a complete audio subsystem in a single 68-pin PLCC or 100-pin TQFP package. The CS4248 includes an 8-bit parallel interface to the industry standard ISA bus." A complete register mapping is included in the data. There are also device drivers available for Windows 3.1 and NT, as well as diagnostic software. The Monologue software is also available in the Crystal data book (apparently it was a joint development by Crystal and First Source). The CS4248 is functionally equivalent to the Analog Devices AD1848 rev. K chip. The phone number for Crystal Semiconductor (Austin, TX) is (512) 445-7222. --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 7 21:50:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02852 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 7 Apr 1994 21:50:28 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA28721; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 22:30:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 22:30:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA28713; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 22:30:52 -0400 Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id TAA03327; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 19:31:57 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 19:26:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Hosmer Subject: Hello To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I have a TP750C w/340Mb HD and 12Mb RAM. I am running OS/2 w/ MMPM (the sound is great). I have not yet bought 4Mb diskettes to try out the Floppy. Has anyone found a good (inexpensive) source for these diskettes. shosmer@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 7 23:53:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08004 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 7 Apr 1994 23:53:35 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA07610; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 00:36:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 00:36:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom9.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA07602; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 00:36:31 -0400 Received: from localhost by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id VAA14793; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 21:37:35 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 21:35:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Arie Litman Subject: Re: Hello To: Stephen Hosmer Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I used a standard HD2 diskettes just fine. I used the DOS to format to 2.88 and all works fine.... Arie Litman voice (408)441-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Stephen Hosmer wrote: > I have a TP750C w/340Mb HD and 12Mb RAM. I am running OS/2 w/ MMPM (the > sound is great). > > I have not yet bought 4Mb diskettes to try out the Floppy. Has anyone > found a good (inexpensive) source for these diskettes. > > shosmer@netcom.com > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 8 01:10:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27287 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 01:10:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA12784; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 01:55:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 01:55:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA12770; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 01:55:19 -0400 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id IAA25019 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:55:20 +0300 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id IAA01365 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:54:29 +0300 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:54:29 +0300 Message-Id: <199404080554.IAA01365@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: serious problems with PortReplw/PCMCIA X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi, fellow netters! I turn to you since IBM have not been able to solve the problem decribed= below in three months!. I have seriuos problems in using TP750 connected to external monitor=20 and ethernet through the PortReplicator w/ PCMCIA. The problem=20 is an alternating wave pattern on the external monitor, which=20 is really disturbing. The problem seems to exist always when=20 the computer feeds current to the ethernet PCMCIA card in the=20 PortReplicator. The wave pattern is moving slowly and alternating the direction.=20 Depending on the monitor and refresh rates used the wave front is=20 either horisontal or diagonal across the screen. Monitor resolution=20 affects the distance between wave tops. Its about 4mm at 640x480=20 and 2mm at 1024x768. The refresh rate seems to somewhat=20 affect the appearance. I have replaced every part I can imagine. I have tried three=20 different port replicators, five different PCMCIA cards, four=20 TP750s of which two were TFT and two mono. At least two=20 transformators have been tested. The only thing that affected=20 the wave pattern is the change of the PortReplicator, but only=20 by making the pattern slightly different.=20 IBM lab claims that they are unable to reproduce=20 the bahavior -- I never fail. Is there someone on the net who is using a TP750 with external=20 monitor and IBM PCMCIA ethernet card (I use the coax variant,=20 but it does=B4t matter) connected to the PortReplicator?. I want=20 to know if there excist a configuration where this problem does=B4n=20 show up. [If the PCMCIA card is connected to the TPs own slots=20 the problem is (almost) invisible. I=B4m writing this message with a TP350 with a PCMCIA ethernet connected -- without any interference] Sorry, this become too long but I wanted to explain my=20 trouble thoroughly. Thanks in advance,=20 Antti Kilpinen Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University DataCity FIN-20520 Turku From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 8 01:12:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27674 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 01:12:45 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA12947; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 01:56:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 01:56:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA12900; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 01:56:23 -0400 Received: from blam.dialup.access.net by panix.com with SMTP id AA07071 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 01:56:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 01:56:18 -0400 Message-Id: <199404080556.AA07071@panix.com> X-Sender: blam@panix.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: blam@panix.com (Bernardo Lam) Subject: Problems installing Win32s X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi, I am having problems installing Win32s on my TP-750Cs, it dies with an error pointing to SHELL.DLL and INIUP.DLL. I have tried installing without the 750 specific drivers, but no luck. It worked fine on my desktop. Has anyone installed Win32s on the TP750? I need it to run the latest version of NCSA Mosaic. The previous version (16 bit) runs without any problems over SLIP and Winsock (also under OS/2 for Windows). Thanks in advance, Bernardo From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 8 07:34:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13700 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 07:34:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA15379; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:22:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:22:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from erb1.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA15339; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:22:21 -0400 Received: from todd-dial.engr.wisc.edu by erb1.engr.wisc.edu (4.1/30) id AA17634; Fri, 8 Apr 94 07:22:15 CDT Date: Fri, 8 Apr 94 07:22:15 CDT Message-Id: <9404081222.AA17634@erb1.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: Linux (and hello) X-Mailer: Status: OR Hello, I'm new to this list. I just received a Thinkpad 750C with 12meg RAM & 340meg HD. I'll run Windows and (hopefully) Linux. Regarding Linux: anyone successfully install Linux on their thinkpad???? if so, how'd you do it? how well does Xfree work with the thinkpad chipset (256 colors?)? do the thinkpad power saving abilities still work (suspend, etc) in linux? I tried to install the slackware linux release (my copy is about 3-4 months old), and could not even make it past the first disk. Seems to me that the Linux kernel did not recognize the drive type reported by the Thinkpad floppy!! (probably because it is reporting a slightly different type number due to its 2.88 meg capability). Thanks Todd Tannenbaum (tannenba@engr.wisc.edu) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 8 07:52:36 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15639 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 07:52:33 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA17574; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:37:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:37:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tiamat.umd.umich.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA17567; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:37:35 -0400 Received: by tiamat.umd.umich.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17057; Fri, 8 Apr 94 08:36:41 EDT X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:36:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Adam Wilkinson" Sender: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Reply-To: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Message-Id: <30976.adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu> To: Subject: RE: Hello Status: OR In message Thu, 7 Apr 1994 19:26:38 -0700 (PDT), Stephen Hosmer writes: > I have a TP750C w/340Mb HD and 12Mb RAM. I am running OS/2 w/ MMPM (the > sound is great). > > I have not yet bought 4Mb diskettes to try out the Floppy. Has anyone > found a good (inexpensive) source for these diskettes. > I wouldn't bother unless you have files that are larger that 1.4MB. The cost per megabyte is significantly higher for the 4MB diskettes than normal HD diskettes, so you pay a small fortune for convenience! Adam Wilkinson adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu | "The first time it's research. the second usfmcltc@ibmmail.com | time is just engineering!" - Cliff Stoll Compuserve: 75470,71 | (author of "The Cuckoo's Egg" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 8 11:35:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22140 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 11:35:29 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA07016; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 12:11:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 12:11:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA07008; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 12:11:48 -0400 Received: from blam.dialup.access.net by panix.com with SMTP id AA15654 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 12:11:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 12:11:31 -0400 Message-Id: <199404081611.AA15654@panix.com> X-Sender: blam@panix.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: blam@panix.com (Bernardo Lam) Subject: Re: Problems installing Win32s Cc: blam@panix.com X-Mailer: Status: OR >To: TP750@cs.utk.edu >From: blam@panix.com (Bernardo Lam) >Subject: Problems installing Win32s > >Hi, > >I am having problems installing Win32s on my TP-750Cs, it dies with an >error pointing >to SHELL.DLL and INIUP.DLL. I have tried installing without the 750 >specific drivers, >but no luck. It worked fine on my desktop. > >Has anyone installed Win32s on the TP750? > >I need it to run the latest version of NCSA Mosaic. The previous version >(16 bit) runs >without any problems over SLIP and Winsock (also under OS/2 for Windows). > >Thanks in advance, > >Bernardo > Just to let you know that it is working now. It was weird, I had to install Win32s manually (from the changes it made on my desktop's SYSTEM.INI). It seems to be running fine. I'll let you know if I encounter problems in the future. The setup program provided in the .ZIP file doesn't work with the TP (at least in my case). BTW, I read (I think in the FAQ) that 32 bit access worked fine, but in my case it is kind of flaky, I don't remember exactly what the problems were, but it was crashing my system (hybernation or suspend?). Other than that the machine works fine, it is currently running Windows and OS/2 for WIN, although I have to change SYSTEM.INI depending on which environment I am going to work. My machines's setup is: TP750 Cs w/12 MB. RAM 340 HD MHZ Xjack 14.4 modem (the older one) It is a workhorse, and with SLIP, it connects without a glitch to the Internet. All the shareware WINSOCK programs run, and the MHZ. modem has never given me any problems. Thanks, Bernardo PS. Sorry about the formatting From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 8 12:42:55 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21823 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 12:42:50 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA11388; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 13:17:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 13:17:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA11382; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 13:17:07 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id NAA03219; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 13:01:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199404081701.NAA03219@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux (and hello) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 08 Apr 1994 07:22:15 CDT." <9404081222.AA17634@erb1.engr.wisc.edu> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 1994 13:01:32 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR > I'm new to this list. I just received a Thinkpad 750C with > 12meg RAM & 340meg HD. I'll run Windows and (hopefully) Linux. > > Regarding Linux: anyone successfully install Linux on their > thinkpad???? if so, how'd you do it? I had linux running on my tp750 (mono). It wasn't easy to get up and running; I had to patch the kernel in a few places, and use the UMSDOS hack to actually get a file system on the disk. The main problem: linux doesn't deal with the 2.88 Mb floppy controller; also linux uses the disk change signal, which works differently on the tp750 than on most PCs. (Eventually I got the floppy driver to actually read/write 1.44 Mb disks, but the disk change line still didn't work, so if you swapped floppies the old cached data wasn't invalidated.) > how well does Xfree work > with the thinkpad chipset (256 colors?)? I used the monochrome driver; it worked fine once I figured out the clock values. I didn't have a color display to try. > do the thinkpad power > saving abilities still work (suspend, etc) in linux? No. Actually it's quite annoying. Even the power switch doesn't work reliably. > I tried to install the slackware linux release (my copy is about 3-4 > months old), and could not even make it past the first disk. Seems > to me that the Linux kernel did not recognize the drive type > reported by the Thinkpad floppy!! (probably because it is reporting > a slightly different type number due to its 2.88 meg capability). That's right. I just duplicated the type 4 entry for the type 5 and 6 slots. But there are other problems as well. Versions of linux after 0.99pl13 would just get wedged, apparently in the hard disk driver code. You can have my patched versions of kernel files by ftp-ing to cs.utk.edu, directory pub/moore/linux. I'm currently running netbsd on my thinkpad; it also required several patches, but works much better than linux did. Keith Moore From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 8 15:17:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02681 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 15:17:36 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA25211; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 15:46:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 15:46:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from usceast.cs.scarolina.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA25204; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 15:46:53 -0400 Received: by usceast.cs.scarolina.edu (cs.grandpoobah.030594) From: Robert Castles Message-Id: <9404081946.AA20135@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu> Subject: MHz is Sliiick! To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Apr 94 15:46:46 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR Just want everyone to know that I've just picked up a Megahertz 14400 w/ XJACK. WOW! What a nice modem! I can cover the PCMCIA slots with the card in, no funky adapters! Let's see... What did I have to do to get it to work? PLUG IT IN! What a breeze! Ok, seriously, there was more... I installed the EasyPlay stuff from IBM for OS/2 and DOS. Under DOS, it was instant GO. COM 2, 14400 v42bis. Done. Under OS/2. I had to stop using my SIO/VSIO setup. For some reason, I could only get COM 1 active, which is the external port. Soooo, I just used the updated COM.SYS from IBM and Guess What. Done. I can't wait to put this card under some true multitasking strain with OS/2! Any ideas how to get to use SIO/VSIO? Does it matter? What am I losing, since I don't think there is a true 16550 in the card? As it stands, I can't recommend this card enough. Of course it benifits strongly from IBM's impressive EasyPlay software. Way to go IBM and Megahertz! Robert Castles castles@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 8 15:59:55 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20441 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 15:59:48 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA27790; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:19:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:19:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA27781; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:19:14 -0400 Received: from blam.dialup.access.net by panix.com with SMTP id AA20353 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:19:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:19:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199404082019.AA20353@panix.com> X-Sender: blam@panix.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: blam@panix.com (Bernardo Lam) Subject: Re: Problems installing Win32s X-Mailer: Status: OR >> Just to let you know that it is working now. It was weird, I had to install >> Win32s manually (from the changes it made on my desktop's SYSTEM.INI). It >> seems to be running fine. I'll let you know if I encounter problems in the > >You should've definately let us know that you were using OS/2 for >Windows too. That makes a number of changes in your System.INI. >Microsoft has been known to make it hard for OS/2 users, doing >things like, if it detects OS/2, it'll install Word 6.0 half-baked >(I swear to you...I have the fix for it if you would like to see >it). My guess is that either something that OS/2 for Windows >installed in the SYSTEM.INI was messing up the WIn32s or that MS >has made some sort of strange exception if it detects OS/2.... > >> BTW, I read (I think in the FAQ) that 32 bit access worked fine, but in my >> case it is kind of flaky, I don't remember exactly what the problems were, >> but it was crashing my system (hybernation or suspend?). Other than that the >> machine works fine, it is currently running Windows and OS/2 for WIN, >> although I have to change SYSTEM.INI depending on which environment I am >> going to work. > >BTW, how did you end up manually installing it? > > Thanks to ALL of you for your replies. My OS2 for Windows' SYSTEM.INI is not the same one that I use for my regular Win 3.1 sessions, I had too many problems with the video driver and some other things (sorry, I fixed it a while ago and can't remember the other problems, but video was the worst!), so I have a batch file that copies the SYSTEM.INI that I fined tuned for OS/24W and replaces the one that is fined tuned for plain Windows. I have to have both and remember to sync then whenever there are changes (like the one with Win32s). The problem was strictly a Windows 3.1 problem, as I expressed in my message, I stripped the original System.ini from all the 'strange' components, nothing to do with TP-750 nor OS/2 (since this is my plain Windows INI). Still, no good. Anyway, it was really late when I tried to setup win32s (2:00 a.m.) so this morning I gave it another shot, but this time I had access to my desktop and just for the fun of it reinstalled win32s on it. Worked without a glitch. So, half frustated I decided to trick the 750 (well, this wouldn't be the very first time) and manually copied the entries that the setup program added to SYSTEM.INI: [boot] . . . drivers=mmsystem.dll winmm16.dll power.drv . . . [386Enh] device=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WIN32S\W32S.386 . . . Please note that in the [boot] section I am not sure about the winmm16.dll, but it certainly didn't affect my system. Also, this assumes that you had tried to install win32s and failed (since it copies some stuff into its own subdirectory and in \windows\system). That's it!, after that, Mosaic and all the other programs worked (Although the newer version of Mosaic has some "features" that the previous one -16 bit- didn't have, but that is a different story...) ---------------- >From Sean Chou: >Oh yeah, RE: the 32-bit file access. Are you sure it's the file >access? What BIOS and Utility version are you using? And what >system do you have the Windows set up for? It has to be the >MSDOS system with APM... The problems with installing win32s and the 32 bit file access are not the same. I am using the latest utilities and the BIOS update that I got from the IBM BBS several days ago, and if my memory doesn't fail, are the same as the ones posted on the FAQ. In fact, one of those upgrades fixed my problem with MS-DOS Edit (from DOS 6.2) crashing once in a while in the middle of something. And yes, MSDOS system with APM has been up and running since I got this machine in late December, as well as all the other IBM drivers that came bundled with the TP. ---------------- >From Bob Page: >What IP stack are you running? I originally tried to install >Microsoft's TCP/IP stack for WFWG but gave up because it took up so >much conventional memory. I've since switched to a beta release of >an upcoming PC-NFS. >..bob I am using the Trumpet Winsock IP stack (both under SLIP and under Token Ring/ODI/Winpkt...), it has been extremely stable, and I am very happy with it. The problem with win32s is not with the IP stack (now I know, I am using Trumpet and win32s while I write this reply :)). With Trumpet I can have active 3-4 FTP sessions plus 1 Mosaic session + 1 Trumpet News Reader + Eudora + TELNET to BIX.COM and PANIX.COM and still have some memory to spare for eventual Fileman and Write Sessions. The TP-750 has never complained. BTW, before someone asks, under Token Ring I can see only the hosts that are NOT on my same network, this is because of "tricking" the program into thinking that it is talking to an ENET board which in fact is a Token Ring... I am going to install TCP-IP for OS/2 over the weekend, I already did that on my desktop (I didn't like the interface, and setting it up to run under ODINSUP was a real pain!!!.). I'll let you know if it worked (and maybe give you the URL so you can connect to a WWW server running on my TP!!!). So far it is working over Token Ring, the TP-750 will be a SLIP setup. IMHO I think Trumpet is more stable than some commercial applications, at least better than the one I had to install at one place I do consulting (it acts as an IPX/IP gateway and only uses one IP address for multiple clients + using Lan Workplace utilities), and is pretty expensive... ------------ Thanks also to Randal Wittle, I got your reply while I was preparing this message and had already fixed my problem. ------------ Feel free to email me if you need more information Bernardo blam@panix.com blam@bix.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 8 16:14:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26686 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:14:24 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA00194; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:47:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:47:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA00185; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:47:23 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id QAA03440; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:46:59 -0400 Message-Id: <199404082046.QAA03440@wilma.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: how to unsubscribe Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU From: tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 08 Apr 1994 16:46:58 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR just a reminder... For administrative requests (like unsubscribe/change address), send mail to: tp750-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ...not to the entire list. Your fellow list members will appreciate it. Thanks, Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 8 16:33:41 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05835 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:33:37 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id RAA01375; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 17:00:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 17:00:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from usceast.cs.scarolina.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id RAA01366; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 17:00:54 -0400 Received: by usceast.cs.scarolina.edu (cs.grandpoobah.030594) From: Robert Castles Message-Id: <9404082100.AA20853@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu> Subject: EasyPlay Software To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Apr 94 17:00:51 EDT Cc: kedem@csd36.cs.nyu.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR To get the EasyPlay Software for the Thinkpad call: IBM Support BBS 19195170001 get the file: UT750121.EXE This has to be the EASIEST way to install and use the Mhz PCMCIA Modem. castles@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu This note was to benefit newcomers, as well as a response to a direct question. Sorry if this is repeated data. castles@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 8 19:04:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22526 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 19:04:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA11776; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 19:46:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 19:46:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA11769; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 19:46:50 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA00296; Fri, 8 Apr 94 19:46:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 94 19:46:45 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9404082346.AA00296@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, joseph.pereira@channel1.com Subject: Re: Memory Check/Battery Status: OR Yes, it sure is odd that the memory check seems to take no time at all on the TP750 (I have 20 megs) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 8 19:25:38 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27045 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 19:25:35 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA12913; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 20:04:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 20:04:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA12906; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 20:04:32 -0400 Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id RAA03720; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 17:05:25 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:55:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Hosmer Subject: Re: MHz is Sliiick! To: Thinkpad List , Robert Castles Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9404081946.AA20135@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Fri, 8 Apr 1994, Robert Castles wrote: > Just want everyone to know that I've just picked up a Megahertz 14400 w/ > XJACK. > > WOW! What a nice modem! I can cover the PCMCIA slots with the card in, no > funky adapters! > Let's see... What did I have to do to get it to work? > > PLUG IT IN! What a breeze! > > Ok, seriously, there was more... I installed the EasyPlay stuff from IBM for > OS/2 and DOS. > > Under DOS, it was instant GO. COM 2, 14400 v42bis. Done. > > Under OS/2. I had to stop using my SIO/VSIO setup. For some reason, I could > only get COM 1 active, which is the external port. Soooo, I just used the > updated COM.SYS from IBM and Guess What. Done. > > I can't wait to put this card under some true multitasking strain with OS/2! > > Any ideas how to get to use SIO/VSIO? Does it matter? What am I losing, > since I don't think there is a true 16550 in the card? > > As it stands, I can't recommend this card enough. Of course it benifits > strongly from IBM's impressive EasyPlay software. Way to go IBM and > Megahertz! > > Robert Castles > castles@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu > > The only way that I got the Megahertz modem working in OS/2 was to use their driver (ESTDFM.OS2). It is available on their BBS. It must be installed in a specific sequence. Additionally, the com.sys and vcom.sys mustbe updated. They have a disk available that has the required file. shosmer@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 8 19:57:26 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04440 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 19:57:24 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA15233; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 20:39:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 20:39:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA15226; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 20:39:06 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA00409; Fri, 8 Apr 94 20:39:02 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 94 20:39:02 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9404090039.AA00409@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, shosmer@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hello Status: OR I use Maxell 4MB diskettes, for which I am paying about $35 a box. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 8 20:04:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05953 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 20:04:04 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA15934; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 20:47:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 20:47:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA15927; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 20:47:08 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA00461; Fri, 8 Apr 94 20:47:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 94 20:47:00 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9404090047.AA00461@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Subject: RE: Hello Status: OR Well I must say I really like the 2.88 meg floppies, especially since I got and installed a Teac 2.88 drive on my desktop. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 9 06:34:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08472 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 9 Apr 1994 06:34:30 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id HAA01789; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 07:21:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 07:21:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nic.hookup.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id HAA01782; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 07:21:15 -0400 Received: from vetter.hookup.net (vetter.hookup.net [198.133.162.55]) by nic.hookup.net (8.6.8/1.140) with SMTP id HAA04043; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 07:21:06 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 07:21:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199404091121.HAA04043@nic.hookup.net> X-Sender: vetter@hookup.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: vetter@hookup.net (Tim Vetter) Subject: Re: Problems installing Win32s X-Mailer: Status: OR blam@panix.com (Bernardo Lam) writes: >I am having problems installing Win32s on my TP-750Cs, it dies with an error pointing >to SHELL.DLL and INIUP.DLL. I have tried installing without the 750 specific drivers, >but no luck. It worked fine on my desktop. > >Has anyone installed Win32s on the TP750? Yes, but I encountered the same problem with a hang near the end of the install. Never did figure out the cause, but it is possible to work around the hang by using the DOS 'expand' command to manually decompress the few remaining files from the install diskette. I forget which ones they were, but it should be sufficient to know that all the files install in \windows\system\win32s, with the following exceptions: In \windows\system directory - w32sys.dll win32s16.dll winmm16.dll Also make sure the following line has been added to the [386Enh] section of your system.ini file: device=c:\windows\system\win32s\w32s.386 Hope this helps, Tim -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Vetter vetter@hookup.net 73 Warren Road voice 519-579-9904 Kitchener, Ontario fax 519-571-9520 N2M 4T6 Canada -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:01:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26793 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 9 Apr 1994 22:01:17 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA27263; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 22:47:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 22:47:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA27254; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 22:46:58 -0400 Received: from news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.4.2]) by fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.2) id ; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 20:46:17 -0600 Received: by news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.2; from uucp@localhost) id ; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 20:46:20 -0600 Received: from nucleus.UUCP by dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca (4.1/Cuc2.2) id AA03446; Thu, 7 Apr 94 17:11:26 MDT Message-Id: <9404072311.AA03446@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca> Received: by nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (1.64/waf) via UUCP; Wed, 06 Apr 94 22:00:18 MST for tp750@cs.utk.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Tim Kary) Subject: Conventional Memory Date: Wed, 06 Apr 94 21:29:40 MST Organization: Atomic Data Communications X-Maildoor: MajorMAIL V1.61 Status: OR Joseph: Regarding your problem with lack of conventional memory: >Subject: Conventional Memory > >Greetings..... >I'm posting my Auto/Conv hoping, actually praying, that I may > get >suggestions on improving the Conventional Memory. Right now > I have: >466K (476880 bytes) free >... >I would appreciate any help, >Joseph Pereira I have had similar problems, but thanks to the help of others on the list I have 585K of conventional memory. I also run a multi-boot configuration, but only include my standard work setup here. **CONFIG.SYS** rem DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS DOS=HIGH,UMB DEVICEhigh=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS X=C000-C7FF DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDSS01.SYS /S0=2 DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDOSCS.SYS DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\DICRMU01.SYS /MA=C000-C7FF DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\$ICPMDOS.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.SYS C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.INI DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\SRAMDRV2.SYS FILES=70 REM BUFFERS=30 DEVICEhigh=C:\IBMVESA\VESA.EXE STACKS=9,256 REM DEVICE=C:\IBMAUDIO\DIAG\AUDTEST.SYS /V=10 REM DEVICEhigh=C:\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD\TPAUDDD.SYS [COMMON] BUFFERS=10,0 SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /p **AUTOEXEC.BAT** @ECHO OFF PROMPT $p$g LH C:\DOS\MOUSE.COM C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE LH C:\THINKPAD\FUELDOS PATH %PATH% **rather lengthy path statement omitted for simplicity** rem SET LMOUSE=C:\UTIL\MOUSE1 SET TEMP=C:\TEMP rem C:\UTIL\MOUSE1\MOUSE C:\UTIL\NU\IMAGE C: rem WIN I realize I have several REM-med out statements - I use them in my multi-boot configuration ( and can't bear to omit anything for fear I'll delete something I might need in the future:-). I hope this is of some help! Tim Karye ---------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Kary twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca 403-262-7021 403-262-1392(FAX) T.Kary@genie.geis.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:09:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28565 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 9 Apr 1994 22:09:44 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA27845; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 22:56:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 22:56:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id WAA27838; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 22:56:18 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA01622 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 94 22:50:38 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E18F0A; Sat, 9 Apr 94 21:22:12 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: FX Card/Music Card From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.354390.700.0CE18F0A@channel1.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 94 00:57:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: FX Card/Music Card My first two games on the 750c and I get no Sound Blaster emulation! The games are Xargon and Raptor. Raptor has a setup that asks you to choose the following: [Select Music Card] General Midi Sound Canvas WaveBlaster Sound Blaster ( I chose this ) Pro Audio Spectrum UltraSound Adlib Then goes goes on to ask for a choice: [Available PORT's] ( on this one I had no idea ) 210 220 230 240 250 260 280 ............................ [Select Sound FX Card] General MIDI Sound Canvas Sound Blaster (Chose this) Pro Audio Spectrum UltraSound Adlib PC Speaker [Available PORT's] ...same as above..... [Available IRQ's] 2 5 (No idea) 7 10 [Available DMA Channels] 0 1 3 (No idea) 5 6 7 [Number of Digital Channel] ONE through EIGHT (This was the only one that IBM Tech people knew...they said EIGHT! Not sure if they're right) The program loaded beautifully, but got message the it didn't recognize Sound Blaster card! Xargon did the setup on it's own. I heard the sound but it slowed the game to an unplayable snails pace! I'm PISSED! ;) Are there any NEW/OLD games that work with this machine? Also, does anyone know what the proper settings should be, for the above? Joseph From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:47:55 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07060 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 9 Apr 1994 22:47:53 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA29959; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 23:32:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 23:32:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA29929; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 23:32:26 -0400 Received: from news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.4.2]) by fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.2) id ; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 21:31:46 -0600 Received: by news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.2; from uucp@localhost) id ; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 21:31:49 -0600 Received: from nucleus.UUCP by dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca (4.1/Cuc2.2) id AA11197; Fri, 8 Apr 94 21:05:49 MDT Message-Id: <9404090305.AA11197@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca> Received: by nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (1.64/waf) via UUCP; Fri, 08 Apr 94 20:00:14 MST for tp750@cs.utk.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Tim Kary) Subject: MHz is Sliiick! Date: Fri, 08 Apr 94 19:06:28 MST Organization: Atomic Data Communications X-Maildoor: MajorMAIL V1.61 Status: OR >Just want everyone to know that I've just picked up a Megahertz > 14400 w/ >XJACK. > >WOW! What a nice modem! I can cover the PCMCIA slots with > the card in, no >funky adapters! >Let's see... What did I have to do to get it to work? > >PLUG IT IN! What a breeze! >... >Robert Castles >castles@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu Robert: I second your enthusiasm for the Megahertz X-Jack and EZPlay! I am running my TP750Cs with MS-DOS 6.2 and Windows 3.1 - the modem has worked flawlessly from he start.;-) Tim Karyp ---------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Kary twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca 403-262-7021 403-262-1392(FAX) T.Kary@genie.geis.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 10 00:02:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19976 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 10 Apr 1994 00:02:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA04477; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 00:49:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 00:49:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hamlet.ucdavis.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA04470; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 00:49:19 -0400 From: Received: by hamlet.ucdavis.edu (8.6.8/UCD2.50) id VAA20143; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 21:36:25 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 21:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: AT&T Kit help needed. To: bruce@objy.com Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9404071654.AA15440@server.> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Thu, 7 Apr 1994 bruce@objy.com wrote: > With the latest version of the PCMCIA and EzPlay drivers you shouldn't > need to do any configuration for PCMCIA. Basically plug and play. (COM2) > As far as AT commands go, I treat as a standard Hayes compatible modem > in both Crosstalk and Exceed/W Express (a serial based remote X Windows > package) and have no problems. Of course, I haven't used it for FAXing > yet and I'm sure that configuration is probably slightly differnt on > every faxmodem. > > --Bruce I was faxing before I had my comm. working. I simply installed FaxWorks for OS/2 and went for it. Their driver worked fine with the KIT for faxing. My only problem is the TP won't wake from suspend on receipt of a fax. The easy playing driver also works well for me for general communications. Brian From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 10 14:41:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29569 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 10 Apr 1994 14:41:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA03899; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 15:21:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 15:21:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms.macc.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA03802; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 15:21:38 -0400 Received: from VMSmail by vms.macc.wisc.edu; Sun, 10 Apr 94 12:53 CDT Message-Id: <24041012533915@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 94 12:53 CDT From: Chris Schumann Subject: Definitive (?) config.sys and autoexec.bat To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Status: OR Well, with all the discussion about CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT, and how great EZPlay is, I finally sat down to configure my machine once and for all. Until IBM makes some new device drivers! I use my machine almost exclusively under Windows. So, I have removed the DOS mouse, audio and pen drivers to free more memory. Yes, I have a 750P, but these files should work on the other members of the 750 family. These can also be used as templates for your own special needs. My setup: 750P, 4MB RAM, 170MB hard drive, Megahertz XJ1144 modem. I also have a Yamaha tone generator connected to my serial port, but that is handled under Windows. So, here is my CONFIG.SYS: DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS FILES=30 BUFFERS=25 /x DOS=HIGH,UMB STACKS=0,0 DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE FRAME=C000 NOEMS X=C000-C7FF DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDSS01.SYS /S0=2 DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDOSCS.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\DICRMU01.SYS /MA=C000-C7FF DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\$ICPMDOS.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.SYS C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.INI DEVICEhigh=C:\IBMVESA\VESA.EXE DEVICEhigh=c:\dos\ansi.sys -----END OF FILE An explanation for those not intimate with config files: Notice that the FILES and BUFFERS are kept pretty small. I've had no problems with this so far. The /x on BUFFERS puts those buffers in memory above the 640K boundary. The DOS= line puts DOS in upper memory, and allows device drivers to be installed there as well. STACKS=0,0 forces windows programs to use their own stacks during hardware interrupts. Setting this to 9,256 can be less stable, but it can also be faster. I need to experiment with this one some more. I have used 9,256, and I had some problems getting Procomm Plus to connect, as it missed some of the characters from the modem during handshaking. I have this with 0,0 as well, but have a little more free memory. EMM has a 2k region excluded for use by PC cards, as is suggested for use with EZPlay. I moved this region from C800 to C000 to avoid splitting upper memory. I still don't know what the FRAME= option does. The next five lines set up EZPlay to recognize my Megahertz XJ1144 modem. I wonder if taking big chunks out of the AUTODRV.INI file would help free memory. VESA.EXE is required by the windows video drivers, and I like to have a 50 line screen in DOS, so ANSI is required. I could use another ANSI driver, but this will do for now. Now on to AUTOEXEC.BAT: @ECHO OFF MODE CON LINES=50 PROMPT $E[00m$E[30m$E[46m$P$G$E[37m$E[40m PATH C:\DOS;C:\BAT;C:\NETMANAG;C:\WINWORD;C:\EXCEL;C:\BIN; C:\WINDOWS;C:\THINKPAD; SET TEMP=C:\TMP SET DIRCMD=/OGN /L /A LH C:\DOS\SMARTDRV 1024 1024 LH C:\DOS\SHARE /L:300 LH C:\DOS\DOSKEY.COM /INSERT -----END OF FILE Again, an explanation... Like I said, I like to have a 50 line screen. The PROMPT uses the ANSI driver (hey, it's installed...) to put my prompt in inverse video. The DIRCMD sorts all DIR output, listing all directories first, alphabetically, then all (/A) files (even hidden ones), in lowercase. SMARTDRV allocates a 1MB disk cahce for DOS and Windows. SHARE is required by Microsoft Access, and Word likes it, too. I did reduce the number of file locks from 500 to 300, saving a few bytes. I like doskey. A lot. /INSERT leaves the command editor in insert mode by default. So with that said and explained, here's the output from a MEM /C after booting: Modules using memory below 1Mb: Name Total = Conventional + Upper Memory -------- ---------------- ---------------- ---------------- SYSTEM 13085 (13K) 12973 (13K) 112 (0K) HIMEM 1072 (1K) 1072 (1K) 0 (0K) EMM386 4256 (4K) 4256 (4K) 0 (0K) COMMAND 2912 (3K) 2912 (3K) 0 (0K) SMARTDRV 27296 (27K) 10896 (11K) 16400 (16K) DOSKEY 4096 (4K) 4096 (4K) 0 (0K) IBMDSS01 5456 (5K) 0 (0K) 5456 (5K) IBMDOSCS 27264 (27K) 0 (0K) 27264 (27K) $ICPMDOS 3344 (3K) 0 (0K) 3344 (3K) AUTODRV 12368 (12K) 0 (0K) 12368 (12K) VESA 8128 (8K) 0 (0K) 8128 (8K) ANSI 4208 (4K) 0 (0K) 4208 (4K) SHARE 11312 (11K) 0 (0K) 11312 (11K) FREE 625200 (611K) 619136 (605K) 6064 (6K) Memory summary: Type of Memory Size = Used + Free ---------------- ----------------- ----------------- ----------------- Conventional 655360 (640K) 36224 (35K) 619136 (605K) Upper 94656 (92K) 88592 (87K) 6064 (6K) Adapter RAM/ROM 196608 (192K) 196608 (192K) 0 (0K) Extended (XMS) 3247680 (3172K) 1224256 (1196K) 2023424 (1976K) ---------------- ----------------- ----------------- ----------------- Total memory 4194304 (4096K) 1545680 (1509K) 2648624 (2587K) Total under 1Mb 750016 (732K) 124816 (122K) 625200 (611K) Largest executable program size 619040 (605K) Largest free upper memory block 5840 (6K) IBM DOS is resident in the high memory area. -----END OF FILE Well, maybe with that 6K, I could increase my FILES or locks in SHARE. I have also replaced the 1.1 audio driver with version 1.0 The 1.0 driver allows sampling and playback at any rate, while 1.1 only works at 44.1, 22.05, and 11.025kHz. (OK, maybe 48K, too.) I think it's faster, too. Windows Sound Recorder and other WAV editors update their displays about once per second with the 1.1 driver, and ten times per second with the 1.0 driver. And, I have an external MIDI box, so I can gladly forego the cheesy MIDI synth in 1.1. Oh yes, MOD4WIN, the shareware MOD player for windows plays at exactly 11.0, 22.0 or 44.0 kHz, so no sound comes out with the 1.1 driver, while it works fine with 1.0. If any of you have suggestions to squeeze some more fat out of this, please let me know how. chris schumann@macc.wisc.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 10 20:52:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29452 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 10 Apr 1994 20:52:34 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA26098; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 21:34:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 21:34:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA26091; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 21:34:03 -0400 Received: from news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.4.2]) by fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.2) id ; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 19:33:21 -0600 Received: by news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.2; from uucp@localhost) id ; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 19:33:28 -0600 Received: from nucleus.UUCP by dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca (4.1/Cuc2.2) id AA01426; Sun, 10 Apr 94 18:08:34 MDT Message-Id: <9404110008.AA01426@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca> Received: by nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (1.64/waf) via UUCP; Sun, 10 Apr 94 17:00:14 MST for tp750@cs.utk.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Tim Kary) Subject: FX Card/Music Card Date: Sun, 10 Apr 94 16:59:40 MST Organization: Atomic Data Communications X-Maildoor: MajorMAIL V1.61 Status: OR >Subject: FX Card/Music Card > >My first two games on the 750c and I get no Sound Blaster emulation! > The >games are Xargon and Raptor. >Raptor has a setup that asks you to choose the following: >[Select Music Card] >General Midi >Sound Canvas >WaveBlaster >Sound Blaster ( I chose this ) >Pro Audio Spectrum >UltraSound >Adlib >... > Joseph Joseph: I thought the sound card in the TP was a Sound Blaster compatible unit as well. However, while installing X-Wing the program advised that it had identified the board as being an AdLib. Try installing as an AdLib board instead. Tim Karyf ---------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Kary twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca 403-262-7021 403-262-1392(FAX) T.Kary@genie.geis.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 11 05:00:39 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24529 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 11 Apr 1994 05:00:32 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA01039; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 05:43:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 05:43:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from post.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA01032; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 05:43:21 -0400 Received: from filtroni.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa27700; 11 Apr 94 10:39 GMT-60:00 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: blam@panix.com Subject: Re: tcpip & nw 4 - was Problems installing Win32s Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Apr 94 10:38:18 BST Message-Id: <9404111038.aa00131@lopass.filtronic.com> Status: OR I am going to install TCP-IP for OS/2 over the weekend, I already did that on my desktop (I didn't like the interface, and setting it up to run under ODINSUP was a real pain!!!.). I'll let you know if it worked (and maybe Well, after much help from a fellow netter, I'm now running TCPIP 2.0 and NW/4 client over ODI. You're right, it was a pain :-) Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 11 08:06:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06474 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 11 Apr 1994 08:06:17 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA12648; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 08:42:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 08:42:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA12640; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 08:42:26 -0400 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (8.6.5:29/EUnetD-2.4.3.a) via EUnet id OAA22396; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:43:01 +0200 From: Klaus Eckhoff Date: Mon, 11 Apr 94 14:42:16 +0200 Message-Id: <9404111242.AA20244@osix.Materna.DE> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux (and hello) Status: OR Hi, Just let me give my SCO comment on this topic (I really don't like this role, and I would prefer to ran a SYSVR4 on my TP, but for now SCO is THE UNIX coice if you want a *UX without any kernel hacking or so). > > how well does Xfree work > > with the thinkpad chipset (256 colors?)? Well, I recently installed SCO ODT 3.0 (SCO UNIX 3.2.4.2) using my docking station and an adaptec 1542C SCSI controller (yes, I know about the integrated SCSI in the docking station, but it took about 6 weeks to get the right SCSI cabel for this ... 60-pin IBM connector). You need the SCO EFS 130 (one floppy disk via FTP from ftp.sco.com) which will give you the IBM support for various IBM hardware (including MC architecture). SCO supports only 640x480 with standard VGA and 16 colours. Then I got XFree2.1 and with that installed, I can use 1024x768 with 256 colors on my external monitor without any problems. > > do the thinkpad power > > saving abilities still work (suspend, etc) in linux? Yes, with SCO you can use suspend and hybernation without any problem (I tried it several times). Even no problems with disk change etc, support for 2.88 MB floppy. And of course you can switch the processor speed with FN+F11 if you like. > > No. Actually it's quite annoying. Even the power switch doesn't > work reliably. No problems with SCO. As I said before, I really don't want to push SCO. All I want to say is that it's possible to ran *IX on the TP without all the problems you encountered trying linux, 386BSD, etc. ... --- Klaus Eckhoff, Dr. Materna GmbH, D-44141 Dortmund, Germany, ke@Materna.DE From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 11 11:41:23 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20112 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 11 Apr 1994 11:41:20 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA03331; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 12:09:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 12:09:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA03319; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 12:09:17 -0400 Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id JAA15504; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 09:10:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 09:05:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Arie Litman Subject: Battery utility To: TP-750 List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR In my old days at IBM we use to have an Internal ony package for the TP700/720 that shows 5 or 6 different views of the battery, It would show voltage, amprage, temprature etc. it will also graph it over the time that the PC was on.. not very useful, but lots of fun... And was good for debuging battery problems.... Any one knows what Im talking about? is there somthing like that out there? Thanks Arie Litman voice (408)441-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 11 14:51:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22045 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:50:41 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA15755; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:53:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:53:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA15732; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:53:01 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id OAA09108; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:52:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199404111852.OAA09108@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: Klaus Eckhoff Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux (and hello) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:42:16 +0200." <9404111242.AA20244@osix.Materna.DE> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:52:30 -0400 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu Status: OR > Well, I recently installed SCO ODT 3.0 (SCO UNIX 3.2.4.2) using my > docking station and an adaptec 1542C SCSI controller (yes, I know about > the integrated SCSI in the docking station, but it took about 6 weeks > to get the right SCSI cabel for this ... 60-pin IBM connector). > You need the SCO EFS 130 (one floppy disk via FTP from ftp.sco.com) > which will give you the IBM support for various IBM hardware > (including MC architecture). Did you ever get the docking station SCSI working? I'm wondering if that controller emulates something well-known or is specific to IBM. I've tried several times without success to get documentation for it. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 12 07:47:41 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29004 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 12 Apr 1994 07:47:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id HAA01935; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 07:42:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 07:42:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id HAA01928; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 07:42:03 -0400 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (8.6.5:29/EUnetD-2.4.3.a) via EUnet id NAA24325; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 13:42:42 +0200 From: Klaus Eckhoff Date: Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:41:58 +0200 Message-Id: <9404121141.AA10991@osix.Materna.DE> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: SCSI in ThinkPad Dock I Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR >From postmaster@materna.Materna.DE Mon Apr 11 20:55:47 1994 Received: by osix.Materna.DE; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:55:46 +0200 Message-Id: <199404111852.OAA09108@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: Klaus Eckhoff Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux (and hello) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:42:16 +0200." <9404111242.AA20244@osix.Materna.DE> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:52:30 -0400 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu Status: R > Did you ever get the docking station SCSI working? I'm wondering > if that controller emulates something well-known or is specific to > IBM. I've tried several times without success to get documentation > for it. Yes, I tried it this morning with success (I tried only SCO ODT). First you have to attach a SCSI device to activate the controller in the docking station. Then I tried to run the SCSI diagnostic comming with the docking station. It identifies the adaptor type as "Future Domain TMC 850/860/875/885". Next step was to configure this type of adaptor under SCO (this is one of the supported devices) and it worked from scratch. I was able to mount a CD-ROM under UNIX and to read from it. Now I'm waiting for the internal SCSI kit to try to install a SCSI hard disk within the docking station.... I'll keep you informed when it arrives some times! --- Klaus Eckhoff, Dr. Materna GmbH, D-44141 Dortmund, Germany, ke@Materna.DE From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 12 08:10:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01691 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 12 Apr 1994 08:10:50 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA05383; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 08:33:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 08:33:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA05375; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 08:33:52 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA18014 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 12 Apr 1994 08:33:44 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA21406; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 08:33:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 08:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff Subject: Replacement LCD for Thinkpad (Mono)? To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Does anyone know of a source for a replacement screen for a Thinkpad 700 Mono (I think the screens are the same as on the 750). I just made myself a nice crack right across my screen with beautiful orange fluid seeping out. IBM quotes me a price of $955 for the screen and thats for Mono. I can only guess what the price would be for color. Anyway I'm sure there must be a lowerpriced source somewhere since I've always found IBM stuff a lot cheaper than for what IBM actually sells it at. So please just email me or respond to the list I suppose if you can help. Thanks Joshua Hosseinoff ----- hosseino@yu1.yu.edu (212) 927-3862 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:20:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04705 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:19:56 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA24384; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:40:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:40:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from research.att.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA24376; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:40:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199404121540.LAA24376@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by research.att.com; Tue Apr 12 11:40 EDT 1994 Received: from argo.tempo.att.com.UUCP by allegra.tempo.att.com; id AA27512; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:40:29 EDT Date: Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:41:44 EDT From: paul@research.att.com (Paul Krzyzanowski) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: advice sought -- what to place in Dock I Status: OR I would like to add a CD as well as a SCSI disk to my ThinkPad. Only one device will fit within the docking station (officially). The questions I have are: - has anybody tried attaching a non-IBM CD-rom drive either internally or externally? My inclination is to get an external NEC 3xe triple speed drive (which costs roughly the same as the $600 IBM double speed one for the ThinkPad). - are there particular advantages to having an IBM CD-rom and are there particular advantages to having an internal one (other than the portability)? Specifically, the internal CD-rom installation includes audio cable hook-up. What features does that enable? Any comments or suggestions will be most appreciated. Thanks! Paul Krzyzanowski paul@research.att.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:43:36 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15928 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:43:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA26857; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 12:12:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 12:12:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA26847; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 12:12:24 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA01508 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:12:05 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199404121612.AA01508@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: SCSI in ThinkPad Dock I To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:12:04 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <9404121141.AA10991@osix.Materna.DE> from "Klaus Eckhoff" at Apr 12, 94 01:41:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Now I'm waiting for the internal SCSI kit to try to install a SCSI hard disk > within the docking station.... I'll keep you informed when it arrives some > times! Can you please tell us the part number for all that we need for the Dock I's SCSI adapter? That's been a question here for a while it seems.... And please do keep us informed! ;) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 12 14:00:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22729 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 12 Apr 1994 14:00:43 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA07435; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 14:28:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 14:27:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom12.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA07424; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 14:27:56 -0400 Received: from localhost by netcom12.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id LAA23846; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:28:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:28:48 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199404121828.LAA23846@netcom12.netcom.com> To: paul@research.att.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: advice sought -- what to place in Dock I Status: OR I was going through the same thoughts as yourself and plumped for the Internal. Why I hear you asking. Well for one the docking bay slot is 1" high and finding a decent SCSI drive is hellish. Fer another external SCSI drives are easy to find and I am much less likely t have to lug one of thoswe with me than the CD-ROM. I have heaps of cd-rom's that are documentation etc. I therefore will have the dock at home with external SCSI drives. ( not now I just spent $8500 on the machine and dock and memory ...... ) and I will carry the docking station with mewith CDROM with me. If I do start to have disk space problems I may go with a hardcard for the docing station. MArtin Smith msmith@netcom.com BTW the CDROM is more than fast enough for what I use it for. But I am not continually running AVI file of of it. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 12 23:14:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07804 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 12 Apr 1994 23:14:56 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA17595; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 23:22:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 23:22:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA17588; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 23:22:19 -0400 Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6431; Tue, 12 Apr 94 23:22:36 LCL Received: from MAINE.CAPS.MAINE.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 8840; Tue, 12 Apr 94 23:22:36 LCL Received: from MAINE.CAPS.MAINE.EDU (NJE origin IO20903@MAINE) by MAINE.CAPS.MAINE.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with RFC822 id 0912; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 19:45:24 -0400 Subject: APM 2.11 CSD Fix Message-Id: From: IO20903@MAINE.maine.EDU (They robbed me blind, took all I owned...) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 12 Apr 94 19:44:11 EDT Status: OR I have a file called APMHERE. It tells me that I need a fix for the APM.SYS and VAPM.SYS files for the CSD 2.11. Does anyone have nay ideas on this? Icannot find it anywhere!!!! nathan From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 13 03:36:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00190 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 13 Apr 1994 03:36:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id EAA07488; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 04:06:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 04:06:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id EAA07455; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 04:06:03 -0400 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (8.6.5:29/EUnetD-2.4.3.b) via EUnet id KAA19435; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 10:06:41 +0200 From: Klaus Eckhoff Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 10:05:56 +0200 Message-Id: <9404130805.AA07584@osix.Materna.DE> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: SCSI in ThinkPad Dock I Status: OR > I would like to add a CD as well as a SCSI disk to my > ThinkPad. Only one device will fit within the docking > station (officially). The questions I have are: > - has anybody tried attaching a non-IBM CD-rom drive > either internally or externally? > My inclination is to get an external NEC 3xe triple > speed drive (which costs roughly the same as the > $600 IBM double speed one for the ThinkPad). I connected an external SONY CD-Rom yesterday, no problems with SCO UNIX. It should'nt be a hardware problem to connect SCSI devices from various other vendors. But you should check if your software will support the connected device. > Can you please tell us the part number for all that we need for > the Dock I's SCSI adapter? That's been a question here for a while > it seems.... All I need so far for external SCSI devices is the right cabel. But this was the hard part to get. The one I have is part number 32G4143. It has one 60 pin connector (docking station) and a 50 pin centronics (the big one looking like an old parallel printer port) on the other side to connect to your SCSI device. The part number for the internal SCSI cable (and compartment?) is 66G3513. That's the one I'm waiting for now. When it arrives I will try to install a 512 MB SCSI disk within the docking station and to use it with UNIX. > And please do keep us informed! ;) OK, I will do. --- Klaus Eckhoff, Dr. Materna GmbH, D-44141 Dortmund, Germany, ke@Materna.DE From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 13 13:30:44 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18001 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:30:41 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA27635; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:44:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:44:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA27628; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:44:21 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA12957 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:38:42 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E1913C; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:21:06 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: FAQ and FTP From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.357889.700.0CE1913C@channel1.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 94 17:15:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: FAQ and FTP I'm a bit curious, I only picked up one group (6) of FAQ's here on this mailing list. They were dated 3-30-94. Sean has informed me that he's been making the FAQ available via FTP. Would someone please make them available to this mailing list, so that those of us without direct access to Internet will not miss out?! Thanks, Joseph From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 13 13:55:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28939 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:55:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA00409; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:13:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:13:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA00402; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:13:18 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA14839; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:13:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:13:03 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9404131813.AA14839@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, joseph.pereira@channel1.com Subject: new TP Status: OR anyone have any details on the new Thinkpad? [the DX4 one] From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 13 14:27:38 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14767 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:27:33 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA03790; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:47:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:47:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom10.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA03778; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:46:57 -0400 Received: from localhost by netcom10.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id LAA00833; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:48:01 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:42:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Zoran Subject: Re: new TP To: Robert Dewar Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9404131813.AA14839@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I met an IBM person in Hannover CeBIT trade show, she told me that it would be the TP755, with the same displays and graphics of the TP750. It will have a 500meg drive, IBMs Mwave sound chip, and the rest of the goodies the 750 has. And of cource a DX4 CPU.... They do not have an upgared path from the 750... (Damn!) BTW/ the Mwave chip is a DSP and will provide Sound, Modem and FAX... would be one cool machin... Arie Litman voice (408)441-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Robert Dewar wrote: > > anyone have any details on the new Thinkpad? [the DX4 one] > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 13 15:25:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14893 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:25:50 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA08408; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:40:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:40:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA08385; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:40:21 -0400 From: Received: from bartles (BARTLES.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA11439; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:35:38 CDT Received: by bartles (4.1/client.nfs.930922a) id AA23548; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:39:34 CDT Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:39:34 CDT Message-Id: <9404131939.AA23548@bartles> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Zoran's message of Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: new TP Status: OR I wonder how common the motherboard (or whatever it is called in a notebook) is between the various 75x models? I have a 750C. I wonder if I could buy a "cheap" monochrome 755, disassemble it, and put my 750C screen on it (yes, I would do such a thing if it is possible and will work). Of course, an upgrade would be most ideal. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 13 19:49:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05532 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 13 Apr 1994 19:49:46 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA00439; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 20:21:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 20:21:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA00425; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 20:21:45 -0400 Received: from news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.4.2]) by fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.2) id ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 18:20:38 -0600 Received: by news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.2; from uucp@localhost) id ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 18:20:59 -0600 Received: from nucleus.UUCP by dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca (4.1/Cuc2.2) id AA16487; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:11:03 MDT Message-Id: <9404131911.AA16487@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca> Received: by nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (1.64/waf) via UUCP; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:00:11 MST for tp750@cs.utk.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Tim Kary) Subject: Comments on Schumann Configuration Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:01:54 MST Organization: Atomic Data Communications X-Maildoor: MajorMAIL V1.61 Status: OR Chris: The config.sys and autoexec.bat files you included are very close to what I am running for the section of my multi-boot configuration for windows and applications. I don't see a mouse driver? That and the use of the ansi.sys driver appear to be the only major differences. I am getting 588K of conventional memory (again, the difference is the 17K required for the mouse driver). I changed my stacks configuration from 9,256 to 0,0 as you have done, and now find that the slow connect on Procomm Plus has been reduced. As for FRAME, it specifies the starting location of the expanded memory pages, if you choose to use expanded memory. The Frame=C000 after your EMS driver is unnecessary (from my understanding) for two reasons: 1. C000 is the default location; 2. NOEMS cancels out the use of expanded memory. Let me know, I can upload copies of my boot files if you would like to see the complete configuration (if anyone else on he list would like to see these files, I would also be glad to upload them to the list or email direct :-) ). Tim Kary ---------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Kary twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca 403-262-7021 403-262-1392(FAX) T.Kary@genie.geis.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 14 00:29:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05373 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 14 Apr 1994 00:29:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA19860; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 00:54:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 00:53:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA19846; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 00:53:56 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA26943 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 13 Apr 1994 23:53:38 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199404140453.AA26943@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: FAQ and FTP To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 23:53:37 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <40.357889.700.0CE1913C@channel1.com> from "Joseph Pereira" at Apr 12, 94 05:14:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I'm a bit curious, I only picked up one group (6) of FAQ's here on this > mailing list. They were dated 3-30-94. Sean has informed me that he's > been making the FAQ available via FTP. Would someone please make them I'll be making them available as I make new releases. Please don't post them otherwise as they take up a lot of badwidth. While I'm on the topic, does anyone need for their mail to be under a certain length? I will be posting the FAQ as one unit unless someone has problems with too many lines... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 14 01:35:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22068 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 14 Apr 1994 01:35:38 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA25147; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 02:08:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 02:08:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA25138; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 02:08:55 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA26316 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 94 01:58:14 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E191E7; Thu, 14 Apr 94 00:50:42 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: INCREDIBLE GAME From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.359868.700.0CE191E7@channel1.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 22:23:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: INCREDIBLE GAME I just got this game called HOLY FIGHTER, Japanese game! All I can say....INCREDIBLE sound through the 750c speaker! Imagine if I had external speakers!!!! Full SoundBlaster support....graphics are just unbelievable! I'm just amazed at the quality of the sound coming through that tiny speaker, and the music this game has. I'm not sure if this game is shareware or commercial, 'cause it's all in Japanese. The opening screen of this game is FANTASTIC!!! Music is, traditional Japanese. Total of 5 disks (files): HF-SLA1.ZIP 2 3 etc... I had no idea the 750c could produce these graphics and QUALITY sound! Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 14 11:03:36 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12058 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:03:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA15149; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:07:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:07:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from csd36.cs.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA15140; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:07:34 -0400 Received: by csd36.cs.nyu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA15080; Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:05:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:05:52 -0400 From: kedem@csd36.cs.nyu.edu (Zvi Meir Kedem) Message-Id: <9404141505.AA15080@csd36.cs.nyu.edu> To: twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Tim Kary's message of Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:01:54 MST <9404131911.AA16487@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca> Subject: having large conventional memory Reply-To: kedem@cs.nyu.edu Status: OR I have used ramboost that came with PC DOS 6.1 with very good results. --Zvi From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 14 17:56:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19419 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 14 Apr 1994 17:56:37 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA10193; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:19:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:19:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from pinyon.libre.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA10184; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:19:01 -0400 Received: from localhost (sgross@localhost) by pinyon.libre.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) id MAA20911; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:16:58 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:13:44 -0700 (MST) From: Steve Gross Subject: PCMCIA Modem Problem To: Thinkpad Forum Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Upon resuming from hibernation, the PC Card Modem will not function. Any hints? I have the new BIOS and the new Utility Disk installed.... Stephen C. Gross T-4, PLT 707 Pilot B737 America West Airlines 4000 E. Skyharbor Blvd. phone: (602) 860-8051 Phoenix, AZ 85034 e-mail: sgross@libre.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 14 20:22:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04515 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 14 Apr 1994 20:22:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA28674; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 19:19:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 19:19:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA28666; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 19:19:20 -0400 Received: from news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.4.2]) by fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.2) id ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 17:18:12 -0600 Received: by news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.2; from uucp@localhost) id ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 17:18:36 -0600 Received: from nucleus.UUCP by dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca (4.1/Cuc2.2) id AA23853; Thu, 14 Apr 94 14:36:39 MDT Message-Id: <9404142036.AA23853@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca> Received: by nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (1.64/waf) via UUCP; Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:00:14 MST for tp750@cs.utk.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Tim Kary) Subject: SRAMDRV Device Driver Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 13:09:00 MST Organization: Atomic Data Communications X-Maildoor: MajorMAIL V1.61 Status: OR Hi All! My TP750Cs came loaded with a device driver called SRAMDRV. Operation of the TP seems no different whether it is active or REMmed out like it is now. What exactly is the purpose of this driver? >:-O Thanks for any information! Tim Kary ---------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Kary twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca 403-262-7021 403-262-1392(FAX) T.Kary@genie.geis.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 14 23:38:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03870 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 14 Apr 1994 23:38:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA21869; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 00:18:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 00:18:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA21862; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 00:18:44 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA29213 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 14 Apr 1994 23:18:27 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199404150418.AA29213@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: PCMCIA Modem Problem To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 23:18:26 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Steve Gross" at Apr 14, 94 12:13:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Upon resuming from hibernation, the PC Card Modem will not function. > > Any hints? I have the new BIOS and the new Utility Disk installed.... I've found the same. The only work around I've had so far is to take out the card and plug it back in. Works fine then. Of course, you have to restart your comm app (at least I have to). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 14 23:39:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04344 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 14 Apr 1994 23:39:46 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA21952; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 00:20:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 00:20:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA21944; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 00:20:25 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA29724 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 14 Apr 1994 23:20:08 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199404150420.AA29724@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: SRAMDRV Device Driver To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 23:20:07 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <9404142036.AA23853@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca> from "Tim Kary" at Apr 14, 94 01:08:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > My TP750Cs came loaded with a device driver called SRAMDRV. Operation > of the TP seems no different whether it is active or REMmed out like > it is now. What exactly is the purpose of this driver? >:-O The SRAMDRV is for RAM cards. You don't need it unless you have a RAM card. BTW, you can tell it's loaded because it assigns an extra drive letter to your machine. I've never worked with a RAM card so I don't know how all it would work (I guess it's really more static ram or maybe flash ram). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 15 10:14:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03817 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:14:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA08874; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:46:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:46:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA08866; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:46:13 -0400 Message-Id: <199404151446.KAA08866@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4324; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:46:27 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 8300; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:46:27 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (NJE origin KRUCK@WVNVM) by WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8083; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:43:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:43:31 EDT From: "Ruckstuhl, Keith E" To: Subject: Q about random reboot Status: OR I have a TP750 mono, and when I exit windows, the very next time I bump the trackpoint it reboots the machine. I thought it might be the smartcache being 1 meg for Dos and 1/2 meg for windows, but I see from some of the autoexec and config files posted that others have the same setup. I haven't got the latest set of drivers and utilities from IBM yet (they are on the way); has anyone else had this problem? Will the updated drivers fix it? Any other ideas? p.s.- I am running the IBM Dos that came with the machine and windows 3.1 p.p.s.- for those of you using MS Dos 6.2/6.22: Did you do anything special when switching over, or just delete IBM dos and install MS dos? Thanks in advance, Keith R. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 15 10:14:38 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04091 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:14:34 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA08582; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:43:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:43:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA08570; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:43:41 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA04482 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:34:47 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E19255; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:11:22 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE GAME From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.360790.700.0CE19255@channel1.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 18:14:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE GAME >>I just got this game called HOLY FIGHTER, Japanese game! All I can >>say....INCREDIBLE sound through the 750c speaker! Imagine if I had >>external speakers!!!! Full SoundBlaster support....graphics are just >>unbelievable! I'm just amazed at the quality of the sound coming >>through that tiny speaker, and the music this game has. >> >>I'm not sure if this game is shareware or commercial, 'cause it's all in >>Japanese. The opening screen of this game is FANTASTIC!!! Music is, >>traditional Japanese. >> >>Total of 5 disks (files): >>HF-SLA1.ZIP >> 2 >> 3 >Is the game fully playable by someone who cannot read >a word of japanese? or is it not really worth it for >the japanese iliterate? Fully playable, most is icon based. Some areas you must experiment around, such as *saving*, *sound control*, *brightness control* and a few other things that I haven had the courage to try. ;) The first part of the game puts you in a cemetery (you're a Samurai), you have these Geisha (sp) girls floating above the ground, plus many other strange characters. I've explored very little, but the game is loaded with options, like I said before, most is in icon form...the rest you have to experiment with. What really impressed me was the clarity, and type of music used. If you're familiar with contemporary Japanese music, I swear KITARO produced the musical score. Very *mystical* and *haunting* style of music. Loading the game is a bit tricky, since all options are in Japanese. 1. Create a TEMP directory in your C: drive 2. Unzip each file to that directory using -d option of PKUNZIP 3. From C: type subst a: c:\temp 4. Change to a: and type INSTALL 5. (in Japanese now) First option: A: 6. Second: C:\DEVIL 7. All the rest use the Y option 8. To run it you can use either: PLAY.BAT (puts you right into the intro screen. PPLAY.EXE automatically checks your system for Joystick etc, then brings you into intro. >You mention zip files, etc... do you know where I can get them? (if >you think it is somewhat legal, of course). The legality issue can be questioned ;) I will be very happy to offer it to anyone. It should be available in most larger BBS. This game has not been released commercially here in the states. Strictly Japanese release, and only about a couple months old. Whats so great about the Soundblaster compatibility with this game, is that this game was created very recently and in Japan. So for it to be compatible with the 750(c) gives me great hope for future games. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a gaming junky ;)...it's just nice to know that your IBM Laptop is not strictly all business! :) I'm using config's game option, 618 free conventional. With this I get an occasional system lockup when I exit the game. But when I use my regular (no NOEMS setting in line) setup i experience no such problem. >Also FYI: check out Castle Wolfenstein 3D game on the thinkpad! The >first episode is available public domain (let me know if you need >a place to ftp it from). It also works well with the thinkpad >sound (soundblaster mode). The music sounds very so-so, but >the digital sampled sound effects come through very well (machine >gun blasts, doors opening in echoing hallways, nazi's shouting, etc)! This is nice to know Todd, I'll try it. Thanks, Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 15 13:07:43 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21310 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:07:33 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA22864; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:31:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:31:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA22855; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:31:20 -0400 From: Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwltm11778; Fri, 15 Apr 94 13:31:09 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03592; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:27:45 PDT Received: from server. by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA18346; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:30:59 PDT Received: by server. (5.57/SMI-4.0) id AA23161; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:29:28 -0700 Message-Id: <9404151729.AA23161@server.> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, bruce@objy.com Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE GAME In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 14 Apr 94 18:14:00 CDT." <40.360790.700.0CE19255@channel1.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:29:27 -0700 X-Mts: smtp Status: OR Can you folks point me to specific ftp or BBS sites that have these games. I'm interested in both Holy Fighter and Castle Wolfenstein. Sorry for the broadcast, but I didn't catch Todd's address. Thanks! --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 15 14:07:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17497 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:06:33 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA28439; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:36:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:36:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from erb1.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA28419; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:36:31 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu by erb1.engr.wisc.edu (4.1/30) id AA07098; Fri, 15 Apr 94 13:36:06 CDT Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 13:36:06 CDT Message-Id: <9404151836.AA07098@erb1.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: Re: Q about random reboot X-Mailer: Status: OR >p.p.s.- for those of you using MS Dos 6.2/6.22: Did >you do anything special when switching over, or >just delete IBM dos and install MS dos? > Don't delete ibm dos! Instead, what I did, was just run the MS DOS 6.x _Upgrade_.... its cheaper (probably easier, too). The MS DOS 6 upgrade, however, expects to find a good copy of DOS before running. Using the MS DOS 6 Upgrade directions along with the thinkpad users manual on installing dos (remember to click on APM support, i think was the only real issue), i encountered no problems switching from IBM dos to MS dos. -Todd From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 15 14:36:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02278 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:36:55 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA00877; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:01:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:01:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from erb1.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA00870; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:01:33 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu by erb1.engr.wisc.edu (4.1/30) id AA07341; Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:01:18 CDT Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:01:18 CDT Message-Id: <9404151901.AA07341@erb1.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE GAME X-Mailer: Status: OR > >Can you folks point me to specific ftp or BBS sites that have >these games. I'm interested in both Holy Fighter and Castle >Wolfenstein. Sorry for the broadcast, but I didn't catch >Todd's address. > >Thanks! Wolfenstein is available via internet anonymous ftp to: ftp.uwp.edu look in directory /pub/games/id. There is an INDEX file there, and a few other ID games (doom, commander keen, etc). doom is a great game but i've heard it does not work with the thinkpad svaudio program cuz doom uses a protected-mode 386-DOS extender and svaudio is not, i think, DPMI compliant (???). There is also a good collection of shareware/public domain games on the same site in the /pub/games/uml directory. The /pub/games/uml/Epic directory has many games with sound blaster/Adlib support.... i have not had the time to try any of them on the thinkpad (or even not on the thinkpad). -Todd From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 15 15:50:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05755 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:50:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA07116; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:22:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:22:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from oz.geology.washington.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA07109; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:22:32 -0400 Received: by oz.geology.washington.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA04871; Fri, 15 Apr 94 13:10:25 PDT Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 12:53:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor C. Kress" Subject: Re: Q about random reboot To: "Ruckstuhl, Keith E" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199404151446.KAA08866@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Ruckstuhl, Keith E wrote: > I have a TP750 mono, and when I exit windows, > the very next time I bump the trackpoint it > reboots the machine. I thought it might be > the smartcache being 1 meg for Dos and 1/2 meg > for windows, but I see from some of the > autoexec and config files posted that others > have the same setup. I haven't got the latest > set of drivers and utilities from IBM yet (they > are on the way); has anyone else had this > problem? Will the updated drivers fix it? Any > other ideas? > > p.s.- I am running the IBM Dos that came with the > machine and windows 3.1 > > p.p.s.- for those of you using MS Dos 6.2/6.22: Did > you do anything special when switching over, or > just delete IBM dos and install MS dos? > > > > Thanks in advance, > Keith R. > > > I have had exactly the same problem. I have not solved it, but I can give more info. It started with an occasional reboot when I exited windows. In my case, the Trackpoint was not involved. It gradually got worse until eventually it rebooted every time I exited windows. I called IBM support. They were very supportive, but had little in the way of constructive suggestions. They said that they had about 11 calls on the same problem. They had one user send his machine in. They tried re-installing a minimal setup and the problem did not go away. The only solution they found was a complete low-level reformat of the hard-disk. They had no explanation. I reformatted my disk, and re-installed all my software. The problem was cured for about two weeks, and then it started again. Defraging does not help. For some unexplained reason, the problem seems to be moderating lately. My machine is now rebooting with every fourth exit from windows. I have encountered no unpleasant side effects, nor correlation with the use of any particular software (other than windows, of course). I had resigned myself to the fact that the only solution was migration to a real operating system. Unfortunately, my 170 meg disk is already full, the new operating systems are huge, and the disk upgrade to 360meg costs $1300 from IBM (gasp!). I'm sure that any suggestions regarding any of these problems would be valuable for lots of us. -V From dreamer Fri Apr 15 16:09:20 1994 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA13011 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:07:45 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA12965 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for dreamer@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:07:39 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA12922 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for stunnels-temp@uiuc.edu); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:07:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:07:35 -0500 X-Ph: V3.17@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu From: Andrew Trapp Message-Id: <199404152107.AA12922@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> To: stunnels-temp@uiuc.edu Subject: Please bear with me.... Reply-To: stunnels@uiuc.edu X-Sender: STunnels Errors-To: stunnels-request@uiuc.edu Status: OR Those of you attempting to send email to stunnels@uiuc.edu in recent hours have no doubt noticed a slight problem. Apparently another student has added stunnels to his ph nickname field, the result being that ph will no longer deliver any mail delivered to the stunnels address. I have sent him a letter (sternly) requesting that he change or delete that entry from his ph field. Until this problem gets taken care of, the address stunnels-temp@uiuc.edu will be serving the purpose of the stunnels email list. Until further notice, please send all stunnels main list email to that address instead. The addresses stunnels-request@uiuc.edu and stmeeting@uiuc.edu are still in effect. Speaking of which, we're still on for this Saturday evening at SIX pm (not 1pm, unless some of you want to arrange it on your own...) at the Garcia's on Wright street. I'll try to arrange for some tables in the basement, but no guarantees. We can decide when we get there whether we want to go dutch or pool our $$$ for a big order. And of course anyone is still welcome who just wants to come to shoot the breeze. Hope to see you there! -- Andrew Trapp dreamer@uiuc.edu I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of people waiting to abuse me. --Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 15 16:22:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19455 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:22:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA09411; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:53:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:53:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA09403; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:53:44 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 7651; Fri, 15 Apr 94 16:53:44 EDT Received: from YKTVMH by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 6243; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:53:40 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmh.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Fri, 15 Apr 94 16:53:40 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA29910; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:53:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:53:42 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9404152053.AA29910@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: "Victor C. Kress"'s message of Fri, 15 Apr 1994 12:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Q about random reboot Status: OR >> I have a TP750 mono, and when I exit windows, >> the very next time I bump the trackpoint it >> reboots the machine. I thought it might be >> >> Keith R. >> >I have had exactly the same problem. I have not solved it, but I can give >more info. > >-V I have never seen the problem on my 750C with IBM DOS 6.1 and Windows 3.1. I used to suffer from random reboots from inside Windows, but this problem went away when I upgraded to 12MB from 4MB. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 15 17:00:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07005 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 17:00:07 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id RAA12019; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 17:30:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 17:30:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amdahl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id RAA12012; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 17:30:41 -0400 Received: by amdahl.com (/\==/\ Smail #25.33) id ; Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:31 PDT Received: by cessna.oes.amdahl.com (5.0/SMI-4.1/DNS) id AA05621; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:30:29 +0800 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:30:29 +0800 From: lenj@oes.amdahl.com (Len Jacobson) Message-Id: <9404152130.AA05621@cessna.oes.amdahl.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, stevens@watson.ibm.com Subject: Re: Q about random reboot X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: OR I, too, have a 750C with IBM DOS 6.1 and Windows 3.1. I have NOT had any of these problems. I would scream bloody murder to IBM if I were, however. Len Jacobson ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From @amdahl.uts.amdahl.com:owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 15 14:15 PDT 1994 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:53:45 EDT Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:53:42 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Q about random reboot >> I have a TP750 mono, and when I exit windows, >> the very next time I bump the trackpoint it >> reboots the machine. I thought it might be >> >> Keith R. >> >I have had exactly the same problem. I have not solved it, but I can give >more info. > >-V I have never seen the problem on my 750C with IBM DOS 6.1 and Windows 3.1. I used to suffer from random reboots from inside Windows, but this problem went away when I upgraded to 12MB from 4MB. ----- End Included Message ----- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 15 17:42:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20866 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 15 Apr 1994 17:42:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA16061; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:22:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:22:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from oz.geology.washington.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA16054; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:22:18 -0400 Received: by oz.geology.washington.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA04964; Fri, 15 Apr 94 15:10:13 PDT Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:57:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor C. Kress" Subject: Re: Q about random reboot To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9404152130.AA05621@cessna.oes.amdahl.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR The IBM people suggested that I contact Microsoft. By the way, the problem is not affected by removing my 4megs of aftermarket memory. All diagnostics come up clean. I have a monochrome, dos 6.1, and IBM sent me their latest drivers. To their credit, the folks at IBM returned my calls promptly, and actually seemed to be working on the problem, at least for a while. They didn't solve it though. -Victor Kress On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Len Jacobson wrote: > I, too, have a 750C with IBM DOS 6.1 and Windows 3.1. I have NOT had any > of these problems. I would scream bloody murder to IBM if I were, however. > > >> I have a TP750 mono, and when I exit windows, > >> the very next time I bump the trackpoint it > >> reboots the machine. I thought it might be > >> > >> Keith R. > >> > >I have had exactly the same problem. I have not solved it, but I can give > >more info. > > > >-V > > I have never seen the problem on my 750C with IBM DOS 6.1 and Windows > 3.1. I used to suffer from random reboots from inside Windows, but > this problem went away when I upgraded to 12MB from 4MB. > > > > ----- End Included Message ----- > >