From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 20 01:02:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04098 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 20 Apr 1994 01:02:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA13337; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 01:35:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 01:35:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA13296; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 01:35:18 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA15406; Tue, 19 Apr 1994 22:33:43 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 10:36:01 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <38162.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: At&t KIT. Status: OR In message Mon, 18 Apr 1994 12:13:19 -0500 (EDT), jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca (James Cummings) writes: > I have Switched to QEMM, which solved part of the problem. However, I > seem to have a new one with WordPerfect. It only seems to happen in > word-perf. (6.0 for dos) and not any other editor/word-processor. But > It is erratically beeping and refusing to work, *sometimes* when I hit > the control-key. Or the arrow keys. In arrow-ing down a page it > seems to refuse to work (and beep) about about 1/8th of the lines. > I've noticed that with less available memory, the problem becomes even > worse. Hey! I've got this same problem with NUPop, the offline email reader I use (in fact I'm using it right now to type this). The problem is most prevalent with the up and down arrow keys, and in an OS/2 DOS box. I had assumed it was a problem with OS/2's DOS emulation, but I never considered the amount of free memory had anything to do with it. NUPop is a very resource hungry program, and tends to hang a lot if you don't have >550k free. Also, it's a protected mode program. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 20 04:31:26 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01262 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 20 Apr 1994 04:31:23 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA05838; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 05:11:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 05:11:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from post.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA05831; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 05:11:43 -0400 Received: from filtroni.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa10043; 20 Apr 94 10:01 GMT-60:00 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: QVTNet Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 9:53:35 BST Message-Id: <9404200953.aa03432@lopass.filtronic.com> Status: OR > An amusing one, this. I picked up a Shareware TCP/IP package called > qvtnet. This works fine on various workstations, but on the thinkpad, > the telnet app remaps the UIO, JKL & M keys to 456 123 & 0 - presumably > thinking it is mapping the non-existent numeric keypad. I've noticed that with an app also -- ZOC under OS/2. I wonder if it can be fixed? I just have to keep turning off the number pad, but it keeps turning it back on every so often... Interesting - is there something funny about the Thinkpad's scan codes? Could the authors be using the same mapping functions? Keep me posted if you hear anything more - as will I. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 20 05:44:38 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18591 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 20 Apr 1994 05:44:35 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA15675; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 06:25:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 06:25:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nic.hookup.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA15668; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 06:25:40 -0400 Received: from vetter.hookup.net (vetter.hookup.net [198.133.162.55]) by nic.hookup.net (8.6.9/1.147) with SMTP id GAA16462; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 06:25:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 06:25:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199404201025.GAA16462@nic.hookup.net> X-Sender: vetter@hookup.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: vetter@hookup.net (Tim Vetter) Subject: More on my mono screen damage X-Mailer: Status: OR About a month ago I reported on an opaque orange blotch that appeared on my mono screen after what seemed like minor jostling. I've since discovered that the spot is temperature-sensitive. If I carry the machine outside in the cold for any length of time, the spot expands and becomes more dense; indoors, as the machine warms up, the spot contracts and becomes diffuse. I can make it go away entirely by carefully applying extra heat, like from a hair dryer. But the cure lasts only until the TP is chilled again. I'm posting this in the hopes that one of you has some insights into LCD screen construction, and might be able to suggest a more permanent solution than carrying a blow-drier with me on trips (made extra absurd by the fact that I am, well, "follicly-challenged", enough not to need the appliance for its original purpose). I assume what's happened here is that some liquid-crystal solution has leaked out of the panel and is sitting on one of the glass panes, but only becomes visible when it is pinched between the panes as they cool down and the gap contracts. Is there anything user-serviceable here? As in, can I open up the sandwich, and clean off the offending fluid? Or have I completely misunderstood the nature of the problem? (Note: I bought the machine second-hand so the usual IBM warranty doesn't apply.) Thanks, Tim -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Vetter vetter@hookup.net 73 Warren Road voice 519-579-9904 Kitchener, Ontario fax 519-571-9520 N2M 4T6 Canada -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 20 09:33:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09739 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 20 Apr 1994 09:33:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA02249; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 10:07:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 10:07:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA02238; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 10:07:17 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 8003; Wed, 20 Apr 94 10:07:17 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 8803; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 10:07:17 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Wed, 20 Apr 94 10:07:16 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA24671; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 10:07:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 10:07:14 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9404201407.AA24671@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Tim Vetter's message of Wed, 20 Apr 1994 06:25:34 -0400 <199404201025.GAA16462@nic.hookup.net> Subject: 3Com Ethernet PCMCIA card Status: OR Hi, I finally received my 3Com Ethernet card from the promotion (only $129!!). I was wondering if anybody else has it and is using it with PC-NFS. I can't quite figure out what drivers, etc. that I need. When I bring up EZPlaying, it says that the card is "not configured". --andy From moore@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 20 10:01:01 1994 Received: from WILMA.CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23551 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 20 Apr 1994 10:00:53 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id KAA02614; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 10:58:30 -0400 Message-Id: <199404201458.KAA02614@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: "Mike O'Carroll" Cc: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: QVTNet In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 20 Apr 1994 09:53:35 -0000." <9404200953.aa03432@lopass.filtronic.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 10:58:28 -0400 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu Status: OR > > the telnet app remaps the UIO, JKL & M keys to 456 123 & 0 [...] >Interesting - is there something funny about the Thinkpad's scan codes? >Could the authors be using the same mapping functions? Apparently this is what happens if the application puts the keyboard in to Num Lock mode. Some apps try to do you a 'favor' by doing this. Keith From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 20 15:47:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08884 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 20 Apr 1994 15:47:12 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA03513; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 15:51:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 15:51:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from werple.apana.org.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id PAA03495; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 15:50:52 -0400 Received: (from guardian@localhost) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id FAA24998; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 05:49:53 +1000 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 05:49:06 +1000 (EST) From: Nick Allan Subject: Re: 3Com Ethernet PCMCIA card To: Andrew Stevens Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9404201407.AA24671@jimi.watson.ibm.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Wed, 20 Apr 1994, Andrew Stevens wrote: > > Hi, I finally received my 3Com Ethernet card from the promotion (only > $129!!). I was wondering if anybody else has it and is using it with > PC-NFS. I can't quite figure out what drivers, etc. that I need. > When I bring up EZPlaying, it says that the card is "not configured". > > --andy > I have the same problem with my ibm credit card adapter. If you find out how to fix it, can you please let me know. Regards nick From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 21 00:33:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05828 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 21 Apr 1994 00:33:30 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA16443; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 00:48:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 00:48:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA16436; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 00:48:19 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA21006; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 21:46:12 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 09:48:28 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <35308.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: mike@filtronic.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: QVTNet Status: OR In message Wed, 20 Apr 94 9:53:35 BST, "Mike O'Carroll" writes: > > An amusing one, this. I picked up a Shareware TCP/IP package called > > qvtnet. This works fine on various workstations, but on the thinkpad, > > the telnet app remaps the UIO, JKL & M keys to 456 123 & 0 - presumably > > thinking it is mapping the non-existent numeric keypad. > > I've noticed that with an app also -- ZOC under OS/2. I wonder > if it can be fixed? I just have to keep turning off the number > pad, but it keeps turning it back on every so often... I noticed the same problem. I also noticed it was because the num/scroll lock light kept going on on a random keystroke. The problem went away when I got rid of QwikSwitch (which lets you switch between apps with hotkeys). I'm not sure these two are the same problem. Does the problem with QVTNet manifest itself because the numlock gets turned on automatically? Or does the problem exist no matter what you num/scroll lock settings? -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 21 02:37:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29437 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 21 Apr 1994 02:37:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA23548; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 02:39:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 02:39:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from scws1.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA23539; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 02:39:41 -0400 From: Message-Id: <9404210639.AA10058@scws1.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: QVTNet To: mike@filtronic.com (Mike O'Carroll) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 02:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) In-Reply-To: <9404200953.aa03432@lopass.filtronic.com> from "Mike O'Carroll" at Apr 20, 94 09:53:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR There's a setting in the ini file for this program so you can disable the numlock. The switch is rather self-explainatory. Just edit the ini file...this game meproblems also till i figured this out. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 21 11:54:43 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03373 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 21 Apr 1994 11:54:40 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA18312; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 12:05:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 12:05:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA18301; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 12:05:23 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA09150 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 21 Apr 1994 11:05:06 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199404211605.AA09150@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Number pad auto-on To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 11:05:05 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <35308.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Apr 20, 94 09:48:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > I've noticed that with an app also -- ZOC under OS/2. I wonder > > if it can be fixed? I just have to keep turning off the number > > pad, but it keeps turning it back on every so often... > > I noticed the same problem. I also noticed it was because the num/scroll > lock light kept going on on a random keystroke. The problem went away when > I got rid of QwikSwitch (which lets you switch between apps with hotkeys). I don't think I have QwikSwitch loaded unless it's part of ZOC. I rather liked the program too, but that number pad thing is rather intolerable. From shosmer@netcom.com Thu Apr 21 12:16:22 1994 Received: from mail.netcom.com (netcom6.netcom.com) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15354 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 21 Apr 1994 12:16:14 -0500 Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id KAA26087; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 10:17:26 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 10:13:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Hosmer Subject: Re: Number pad auto-on To: Thinkpad List , Sean Chou In-Reply-To: <199404211605.AA09150@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Thu, 21 Apr 1994, Sean Chou wrote: > > I don't think I have QwikSwitch loaded unless it's part of ZOC. > I rather liked the program too, but that number pad thing is > rather intolerable. > I fully agree. I am testing the ZOC 1.21 product and the NumLock thing is driving me crazy. It seems to be rather deliberate using a dial up internet connection. It only happens when my shell restarts. Is this the case with anyone else? ------------------ shosmer@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 21 14:16:07 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13679 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 21 Apr 1994 14:16:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA02106; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 14:49:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 14:49:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from erb1.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA02089; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 14:49:34 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu by erb1.engr.wisc.edu (4.1/31) id AA12724; Thu, 21 Apr 94 13:49:25 CDT Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 13:49:25 CDT Message-Id: <9404211849.AA12724@erb1.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: Re: 3Com Ethernet PCMCIA card X-Mailer: Status: OR > > >On Wed, 20 Apr 1994, Andrew Stevens wrote: > >> >> Hi, I finally received my 3Com Ethernet card from the promotion (only >> $129!!). I was wondering if anybody else has it and is using it with >> PC-NFS. I can't quite figure out what drivers, etc. that I need. >> When I bring up EZPlaying, it says that the card is "not configured". >> >> --andy >> > >I have the same problem with my ibm credit card adapter. >If you find out how to fix it, can you please let me know. > >Regards nick I have not yet played with these ethernet boards (I am expecting my 3com in the mail any day now), but I think I know what you guys want to do: edit your \thinkpad\autodrv.ini file. In the ethernet section (just look for the line CardID=ETHER), there is a line right after the CardID=ETHER that reads: Option=Ignore This essentially tells ezplay to ignore ethernet cards. Change that line to: ;Option=Ignore Placing the semi-colon in the first column turns that line into a comment. Then, reboot your machine. Now ezplay will try to setup ethernet cards for you. Please, please send a note to this email list telling folks if the 3Com board works with ezplay or not. I'm worried because it is not listed in the pcmcia.crd file, but I do not know if it is not there because it does not work with ezplay or because it is to new. FYI: I am currently using a Kingston twisted-pair pcmcia board. the kingston board does _not_ work properly with ezplay. Thanks Todd Tannenbaum tannenba@engr.wisc.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 21 19:49:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03716 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 21 Apr 1994 19:49:48 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA29418; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 20:31:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 20:31:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tiamat.umd.umich.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA29411; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 20:31:35 -0400 Received: from cw-u01.umd.umich.edu by tiamat.umd.umich.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09774; Thu, 21 Apr 94 20:30:32 EDT From: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu (Adam Wilkinson) Message-Id: <9404220030.AA09774@tiamat.umd.umich.edu> Subject: Re: QVTNet (fwd) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 20:31:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Status: OR Forwarded message: > > > > the telnet app remaps the UIO, JKL & M keys to 456 123 & 0 [...] > > >Interesting - is there something funny about the Thinkpad's scan codes? > >Could the authors be using the same mapping functions? > > Apparently this is what happens if the application puts the keyboard > in to Num Lock mode. Some apps try to do you a 'favor' by doing this. > > Keith > In the config file for QVTNet is a line that will disable the NUMLOCK upon startup. I forget the line, but the file is self-documenting. -- Adam Lee Wilkinson * Just remember, no matter where you go, adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu * there you are! Compuserve: 75470,71 * - Buckaroo Bonzai From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 22 07:27:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25013 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 22 Apr 1994 07:27:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA27835; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 08:01:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 08:01:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from post.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA27828; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 08:01:28 -0400 Received: from filtroni.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa01667; 22 Apr 94 12:48 GMT-60:00 Received: from glitch.filtronic.com by lopass.filtronic.com id aa03326; 22 Apr 94 12:47 BST Date: Fri Apr 22 12:47:37 1994 From: mike@filtronic.com To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: QVTNet (fwd) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Message-Id: <9404221247.aa03326@lopass.filtronic.com> Status: OR > >Forwarded message: >> >> > > the telnet app remaps the UIO, JKL & M keys to 456 123 & 0 [...] >> >In the config file for QVTNet is a line that will disable the NUMLOCK >upon startup. I forget the line, but the file is self-documenting. Thanks to all the people who replied to this one. I didn't find the setting 100% obvious, but for future reference, the following does the trick set nl_mode=unlock Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 22 08:20:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01964 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 22 Apr 1994 08:20:46 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA01564; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 08:52:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 08:52:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from post.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA01546; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 08:52:09 -0400 Received: from filtroni.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa11744; 22 Apr 94 13:48 GMT-60:00 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: mike@filtronic.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: QVTNet (fwd) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 13:47:49 BST Message-Id: <9404221347.aa03475@lopass.filtronic.com> Status: OR following does the trick set nl_mode=unlock But without the "set" ;-| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 23 19:53:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05732 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 23 Apr 1994 19:53:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA08147; Sat, 23 Apr 1994 20:30:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 23 Apr 1994 20:30:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom10.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA08116; Sat, 23 Apr 1994 20:30:17 -0400 Received: from localhost by netcom10.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id RAA08439; Sat, 23 Apr 1994 17:31:29 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 17:31:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Arie Litman Subject: Docking station To: TP-750 List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hey all, I need information from users of the IBM docking station with the CDROM player. I need a CDROM on my TP750C. Is the Docking station the right solution? Thanks in advance, Arie Litman voice (408)441-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 23 22:47:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09691 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 23 Apr 1994 22:47:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA18061; Sat, 23 Apr 1994 23:25:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 23 Apr 1994 23:25:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA18054; Sat, 23 Apr 1994 23:25:50 -0400 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HBJ61F1XUO002MQD@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Sat, 23 Apr 1994 23:25:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 23:23:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Billy Youdelman Subject: Will TSX-32 run on the TP-750? Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: The TP-750 List Message-Id: <01HBJ64UJL90002MQD@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Organization: Digital Equipment Computer Users Society Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: OR Greetings - I'm interested in determining if a third-party OS called TSX-32 will run on a TP-750 (or for that matter any Thinkpad). TSX is a VMS-like product - I've used their PDP-11 version of it for some years now and if the pc-version is anywhere even close it will add a whole new dimension to command line operation, including nine easily selectable full screen windows to tasks executed by a real job scheduler, etc.. The problem here is Thinkpad hardware is not all that easy for me to locate (or for anyone else, I'm sure) so I'd like to ask those of you who do have this system to give it a try. TSX is started from dos, so you already have everything else needed (and unzip, of course). There is a version called TSX-Lite available as listed below. Please let me know how it goes, hopefully before May 2d. By the way, if this works, it's something I'm quite sure you'll be glad you got. Thanks!! Billy Y.. billy@mix.com >From garbo.uwasa.fi [128.214.87.1] get these four (binary) files: /pc/miscutil/tsx411a.zip TSX-Lite Multi-User O/S Version 4.11 (1/4), P.Sherrod /pc/miscutil/tsx411b.zip TSX-Lite Multi-User O/S Version 4.11 (2/4), P.Sherrod /pc/miscutil/tsx411c.zip TSX-Lite Multi-User O/S Version 4.11 (3/4), P.Sherrod /pc/miscutil/tsx411d.zip TSX-Lite Multi-User O/S Version 4.11 (4/4), P.Sherrod From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 24 00:55:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00371 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 24 Apr 1994 00:55:17 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA24727; Sun, 24 Apr 1994 01:32:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 24 Apr 1994 01:32:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA24720; Sun, 24 Apr 1994 01:32:44 -0400 Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id WAA04725; Sat, 23 Apr 1994 22:33:58 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 22:33:58 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199404240533.WAA04725@mail.netcom.com> To: litman@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Docking station Status: OR Well I would have to say yes. Even though it is expensive it works very well for me. The built in SCSI allows you to add external drives if you choose or external scsi devices such as tape backup. Although it was expensive I went with the IBM CD-ROM since the slot is very tight for a 1" high drive. Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.com :wq From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 24 11:14:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27103 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 24 Apr 1994 11:14:47 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA07148; Sun, 24 Apr 1994 11:54:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 24 Apr 1994 11:54:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA07114; Sun, 24 Apr 1994 11:54:32 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA22568; Sun, 24 Apr 94 11:54:23 -0400 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 94 11:54:23 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9404241554.AA22568@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: billy@mix.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Will TSX-32 run on the TP-750? Status: OR sounds wierd to talk about an OS that originated with DOS (and thus presumably runs on x86 machines), and have used the PDP-11 version. This would mean that the PDP-11 version followed the x86 version, which I suppose is possible, though surprising. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 26 11:11:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29090 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 26 Apr 1994 11:09:24 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA23137; Mon, 25 Apr 1994 13:01:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 25 Apr 1994 13:01:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from oz.geology.washington.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA23130; Mon, 25 Apr 1994 13:01:42 -0400 Received: by oz.geology.washington.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA11973; Mon, 25 Apr 94 09:49:16 PDT Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 09:23:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor C. Kress" Subject: Re: Docking station To: Thinkpad Forum In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR The TP docking station is $900 and their CD-ROM is $600. This is outrageous. For about the same price, one could get a 486 box on an ethernet running peer-to-peer networking with a PCMCIA ethernet card. There would be little loss in speed, and you would also be able to expand available hard disk space to the 1.4 Gigabyte realm for the price of the TP 340Meg drive. With a modem in the 486 box and in the TP, one could even access files remotely! The main drawback of this approach is that it would be less portable than the docking station. Another alternative is a PCMCIA SCSI interface to an external CD-ROM for something like a third of the price of the docking station CD-ROM combo. While on the subject of penny pinching, the FAQ I downloaded mentioned the possibility of putting a third-party hard disk in the TP750. Does anybody have more information on this? -Cheap SOB On Sat, 23 Apr 1994, Arie Litman wrote: > > > Hey all, I need information from users of the IBM docking station with > the CDROM player. I need a CDROM on my TP750C. Is the Docking station the > right solution? > > Thanks in advance, > > Arie Litman > voice (408)441-1166 x4411 > FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 26 14:01:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10743 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 26 Apr 1994 13:57:07 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA27420; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 14:14:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 14:14:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA27403; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 14:14:12 -0400 From: Received: from buddy.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id LAA17479; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 11:14:04 -0700 Received: by buddy.ucsc.edu (8.6.8/4.7) id LAA08175; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 11:14:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 11:14:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199404261814.LAA08175@buddy.ucsc.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Memory managers Status: OR Does anyone out there have views on the relative merits of QEMM, 386 Max, and Blue Max? I tried QEMM several versions ago, and found it to be somewhat unstable. Bob Meister From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 26 19:29:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01421 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 26 Apr 1994 19:26:19 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA22316; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 19:14:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 19:14:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA22308; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 19:14:11 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id QAA23655; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 16:15:21 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 16:15:21 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199404262315.QAA23655@netcom.com> To: litman@netcom.com, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem recomendation Status: OR Go woth the Megahertz X-Jack 14.4 Works like a cherm with the thinkpad stuff. Should only cost $349 here in the bay area. MArtin Smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 27 00:28:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00815 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 26 Apr 1994 11:12:52 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA24608; Mon, 25 Apr 1994 13:22:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 25 Apr 1994 13:22:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA24600; Mon, 25 Apr 1994 13:22:20 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id KAA21207; Mon, 25 Apr 1994 10:23:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 10:23:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Arie Litman Subject: Re: Docking station To: "Victor C. Kress" Cc: Thinkpad Forum In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Thanks for the advice... Any pointers to a PCMCIA SCSI card that has Windows and OS/2 drivers? Thanks, Arie Litman voice (408)441-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 25 Apr 1994, Victor C. Kress wrote: > The TP docking station is $900 and their CD-ROM is $600. This is > outrageous. > > For about the same price, one could get a 486 box on an ethernet running > peer-to-peer networking with a PCMCIA ethernet card. There would be > little loss in speed, and you would also be able to expand available hard > disk space to the 1.4 Gigabyte realm for the price of the TP 340Meg drive. > With a modem in the 486 box and in the TP, one could even access files > remotely! The main drawback of this approach is that it would be less > portable than the docking station. > > Another alternative is a PCMCIA SCSI interface to an external CD-ROM for > something like a third of the price of the docking station CD-ROM combo. > > While on the subject of penny pinching, the FAQ I downloaded mentioned the > possibility of putting a third-party hard disk in the TP750. Does anybody > have more information on this? > > -Cheap SOB > > On Sat, 23 Apr 1994, Arie Litman wrote: > > > > > > > Hey all, I need information from users of the IBM docking station with > > the CDROM player. I need a CDROM on my TP750C. Is the Docking station the > > right solution? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Arie Litman > > voice (408)441-1166 x4411 > > FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 27 06:22:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06526 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 27 Apr 1994 06:20:28 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA16464; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 00:42:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 00:42:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id AAA16457; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 00:42:26 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA09460; Wed, 27 Apr 94 00:42:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 00:42:17 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9404270442.AA09460@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Answers to a few questions Status: OR the question that is of interest regarding hard disks is whether the 750C will support the new 500meg drive that will be released with the new Thinkpad that is just about to be introduced. It would be good to have an answer to this as soon as the official announcement is made. Meanwhile, another question: is the limit of 20 megs fundamental, or is it just a matter of that being the largest board that can be obtained at the moment? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 27 06:28:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AB07042 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 27 Apr 1994 06:26:27 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA24351; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 19:45:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 19:45:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pinyon.libre.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA24321; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 19:45:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (sgross@localhost) by pinyon.libre.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) id QAA07642; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 16:41:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 16:38:52 -0700 (MST) From: Steve Gross Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem recomendation To: Arie Litman Cc: TP-750 List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Tue, 26 Apr 1994, Arie Litman wrote: > > > I need a PCMCIA modem for my 750C. I got the Intel 14/14 but they ask > to replace all the PCMCIA driver that came with the TP. I was not ready > to do that. Can any one recomend a modem that is simple to install and is > supported under DOS/Windows and OS/2... > Thanks in advance, > > Arie (a rich SOB :) Litman > > Arie Litman > voice (408)441-1166 x4411 > FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Arie- since you are a rich man, I recommend you purchase the IBM High ) Speed Data Fax Modem. I did, and it works fine. ) Best regards, ) Steve From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 27 06:30:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07283 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 27 Apr 1994 06:28:35 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA09752; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 16:34:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 16:34:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA09744; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 16:34:42 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id NAA04501; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 13:35:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 13:35:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Arie Litman Subject: PCMCIA modem recomendation To: TP-750 List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I need a PCMCIA modem for my 750C. I got the Intel 14/14 but they ask to replace all the PCMCIA driver that came with the TP. I was not ready to do that. Can any one recomend a modem that is simple to install and is supported under DOS/Windows and OS/2... Thanks in advance, Arie (a rich SOB :) Litman Arie Litman voice (408)441-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 27 06:32:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07507 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 27 Apr 1994 06:31:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA24990; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 13:55:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 13:54:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA24966; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 13:54:52 -0400 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (8.6.5:29/EUnetD-2.4.3.b) via EUnet id TAA03727; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 19:55:28 +0200 From: Klaus Eckhoff Date: Tue, 26 Apr 94 19:53:21 +0200 Message-Id: <9404261753.AA19609@osix.Materna.DE> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Docking station Status: OR > Another alternative is a PCMCIA SCSI interface to an external CD-ROM for > something like a third of the price of the docking station CD-ROM combo. But be careful what you are doing. I tried to connect an external (Sony) SCSI CD-ROM to the (original IBM) docking station and didn't succeed in using it under DOS/Windows. Although the hardware works well - I tried the SCSI diagnostic and could read a CD - the DOS driver comming with the docking station didn't work with the Sony drive. Same combination is fine with SCO-UNIX btw.... --- Klaus Eckhoff, Dr. Materna GmbH, D-44141 Dortmund, Germany, ke@Materna.DE From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 27 06:35:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07743 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 27 Apr 1994 06:33:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA20835; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 12:44:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 12:44:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA20827; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 12:44:09 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA15052 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 26 Apr 1994 11:43:50 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199404261643.AA15052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Docking station To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 11:43:49 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > The TP docking station is $900 and their CD-ROM is $600. This is > outrageous. I agree. Did you ask about the hard drive for more outrage? :) > For about the same price, one could get a 486 box on an ethernet running > peer-to-peer networking with a PCMCIA ethernet card. There would be Very true, but I would opt for a portable CD-ROM with a Trantor SCSI cable that I could connect onto any of my machines and a 386 box for about $600 used, and all networked together all for less. > Another alternative is a PCMCIA SCSI interface to an external CD-ROM for > something like a third of the price of the docking station CD-ROM combo. One major problem with SCSI PCMCIA is the lack of drivers and general support, especially under OS/2. OTOH, the Trantor EPP SCSI cable will give you full SCSI access at very fast speeds and is useable on any system > While on the subject of penny pinching, the FAQ I downloaded mentioned the > possibility of putting a third-party hard disk in the TP750. Does anybody > have more information on this? I haven't yet or it'd be in the FAQ. I hope anyone that has found anything out will come forth and let us know! Sean (Poor SOB) From jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Wed Apr 27 14:16:49 1994 Received: from chs.claremont.edu (CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15601 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 27 Apr 1994 14:14:35 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA01687; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 20:40:45 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 08:43:36 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Reply-To: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Message-Id: <31416.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: nrt@watson.ibm.com Cc: kensan@vnet.ibm.com, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Making Thinkpad utilities available via ftp Status: OR Hello Nick. I'm the guy who's trying to get IBM to put the ThinkPad utilites (system utilities, audio & video drives, bios updates, etc.) on software.watson.ibm.com. You told me the people who developed it at IBM had to contact you directly. I managed to track down some folks on IBM's TP750 development and told them to contact you. Here's what they sent back: ------------------------------ From: Ken Inoue Tue, 26 Apr 94 13:09:53 JST To: John Kim Subject: Who at IBM is in charge of TP750 stuff? John, My apologies for the delay in responding to you. I have been waiting for news on the IBM Internet FTP site. To cut a long story short, we (ThinkPad development) can authorize the FTP site coordinator to make the drivers package available to public, *IF* she/he agrees. The Watson FTP site coordinator hasn't returned our calls... if you know her/his Internet ID you may want to try alerting the coordinator to the situation. ------------------------------ So the ball's in your court. I can imagine how busy you must be to not have had a chance to return their calls, but I'd like to reiterate that *many* people (over 100 on our TP750 mailing list alone) are very interested in being able to get software updates via ftp. Thanks for your time and effort (both you and Ken). -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 28 02:35:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21973 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 02:34:30 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA18051; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 01:47:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 01:47:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA18044; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 01:47:37 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA25540; Thu, 28 Apr 94 01:47:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 94 01:47:19 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9404280547.AA25540@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: SCHUMANN@macc.wisc.edu, jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Screen squeals Status: OR lot's of young people can hear 19-20KHz. When I was 12 years old (a while ago :-), I could easily hear 30KHz. In fact the FM carrier is 19KHz and when Stereo FM first came in, the FM sets did not filter it out, and I found FM impossible to listen to because of the high pitched whistle. Gosh, maybe you have to start including age as a parameter in TP750 ownership :-) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 28 02:36:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22390 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 02:35:44 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA16144; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 01:10:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 01:10:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA16132; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 01:10:44 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07387; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 21:59:49 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 10:02:41 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <36162.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: SCHUMANN@macc.wisc.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: Screen squeals Status: OR In message Wed, 27 Apr 94 18:27 CDT, Chris Schumann writes: > I just noticed on my 750P that the screen emits a very high > frequency squeal, and that the frequency can be modulated with > the brightness control. > I would estimate the frequency at 19-20kHz. I can > try to make a measurement if people are interested. Are you sure? That's beyond the upper frequency limit for most people. I know it is for me (I measured it at the Exploratorium in San Francisco - came out to about 18kHz) and I have pretty good hearing. Of course if it's very loud that's a different story. I have noticed that with the AC adapter plugged in and the battery not charging and the radio tuned the 980 AM, there's an annoying EM whine the radio picks up (that's the news station here in L.A.). I can modulate it with the *contrast* bar. I've got a 750 mono btw. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 28 02:36:26 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22604 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 02:36:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA16220; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 01:12:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 01:12:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA16207; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 01:12:44 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07393; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 21:59:58 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 10:02:49 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <36170.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Answers to a few questions Status: OR In message Wed, 27 Apr 1994 07:31:25 -0700 (PDT), Randal Whittle writes: >>> 4. Is there a way to turn the backlight off without turning off the LCD? >>> When I'm typing in the sunlight, I can see the screen just fine and I'd >>> like to save some power by turning off the backlight. > > John, I'm simply amazed that you feel this way! I have a 750C and > when I'm outdoors, I can barely see a blasted thing at all--and then only > after some really bad squinting. I find using the TP outdoors > tremendously annoying and difficult. The ambient light, whether very > sunny or cloudy and overcast, seems to be just too overpoweringly > bright--hence, I can't see what's on the screen for beans. Oops, I should've mentioned I've got a 750 mono. The contrast becomes really sharp under sunlight. Annoyingly so. I have to switch the screen to inverse so it'll look more like a watch LCD (black on white) instead of the white on black (which seems like inverse under sunlight to my brain). -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 28 03:37:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07246 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 03:36:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA08605; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 23:05:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 23:05:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA08586; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 23:05:37 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id XAA04501 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 23:06:53 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E19B80; Wed, 27 Apr 94 22:58:21 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem recomen From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.376175.700.0CE19B80@channel1.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 22:43:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem recomendatio > I was all psyched up for my purchase of a AT&T KIT modem. I was told by > several people at First Source and ComputAbility, that the KIT modem > could be upgraded to V-Fast with Firmware. After reading the same from > ... > I ended up buying it from ComputAbility, since there was nothing wrong > with the AT&T modem, they gave me a hard time on the return...i was just > ^^^^^^^^^ >Since *incorrect* information from Computability (about upgradeability) >contributed to your original purchase, I'd have thought that could have been >your justification for returning the AT&T, despite the fact that >it was not broken. So I think it's odd they gave you a hard time... First thing is, they denied ever giving out that info! Second, I was shuffled around like a *hot potato* when I mentioned a return#. I even lost the connection one time. Several other times, after going through the answering service and being transferred to customer service, all I got was the opportunity to leave a message. Finally I BLEW UP and demanded to speak with someone who actually was *alive*! I would have gone elsewhere if it wasn't for the price, and the very apologetic girl that I finally got through to! Joseph From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 28 03:38:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07493 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 03:37:27 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA23142; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 19:27:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 19:27:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms.macc.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA23134; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 19:27:24 -0400 Received: from VMSmail by vms.macc.wisc.edu; Wed, 27 Apr 94 18:27 CDT Message-Id: <24042718270027@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 18:27 CDT From: Chris Schumann Subject: Screen squeals To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Status: OR I just noticed on my 750P that the screen emits a very high frequency squeal, and that the frequency can be modulated with the brightness control. I'm not sure if it just started, or that I finally noticed it, or that this new screen (~4 weeks old) makes the sound and the old one didn't. Does anyone else notice this squeal? (Especially 750 vanilla owners) I would estimate the frequency at 19-20kHz. I can try to make a measurement if people are interested. chris schumann schumann@macc.wisc.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 28 03:38:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07715 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 03:38:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA10301; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 16:45:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 16:45:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA10281; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 16:45:43 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA21061 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 94 16:28:43 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E19B25; Wed, 27 Apr 94 16:20:18 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem recomend From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.375605.700.0CE19B25@channel1.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 15:25:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem recomendatio >> I can't stress enough how HAPPY I'm with my Megahertz XJ2144. It was a >> snap to install and configure!! The XJack is a GREAT option!! > I am glad to hear this, since the XJack is what I wanted in the >first place! And now, if I so desire to get the 14.4, I can now get the >28.8K without significant penalty! > Again--thank you for sharing this with (me) the list. You're very welcome Randy! :) > A few more questions--how do you handle the opening for your PCMCIA Leaving the door off, exposes the interior to dust and whatever else crawls in there. I use the *windowed* cover. It covers most of the opening, leaving just enough room for your cards and still allows you pop out the XJack without any difficulty! The cover also makes it cosmetically more appealing! ;) I tell you Randy, the attention to small details says a lot for the 750c designers!! >And is the battery life affected by cards that are plugged in, but not >in use? How much is it affected by cards that *are* in use? This I'm not sure. I would think that if the modem was plugged in, without it being loaded via Config.sys...wouldn't use any extra power. I think that if the modem drivers are loaded, power drainage would be the same, regardless if the modem is in use or dormant! The other day I started to time the battery with the modem active (drivers loaded), I had to take off, but I had it going for at least 2 hours. I'm trying to get the info to Sean, but I'm not quite finished. I wonder how many responses Sean received?! Take care Randy, Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 28 03:38:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07770 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 03:38:20 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA01806; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 14:39:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 14:39:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA01797; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 14:39:52 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id OAA00608; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 14:38:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199404271838.OAA00608@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: dewar@schonberg.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Cc: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu, whittle@chaph.usc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Answers to a few questions In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 27 Apr 1994 11:13:22 EDT." <9404271513.AA14530@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 14:38:54 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR > one thing to remember is that it is likely that you are using a battery > out of doors, be sure to do PS2 BR N to disconnect the highly irritating > default of dimming the screen when operating on batteries. yes, but how do I do this from netbsd? I wish these guys would document their hardware. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 28 03:39:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07900 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 03:39:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA10424; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 11:13:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 11:13:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA10417; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 11:13:39 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA14530; Wed, 27 Apr 94 11:13:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 11:13:22 -0400 From: dewar@schonberg.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9404271513.AA14530@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: Answers to a few questions Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR one thing to remember is that it is likely that you are using a battery out of doors, be sure to do PS2 BR N to disconnect the highly irritating default of dimming the screen when operating on batteries. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 28 03:40:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08073 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 03:40:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA06150; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 10:31:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 10:31:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA06075; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 10:31:28 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA06885; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 07:31:27 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id HAA29055; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 07:31:25 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199404271431.HAA29055@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Answers to a few questions To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 07:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <31425.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Apr 26, 94 08:43:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > >4. Is there a way to turn the backlight off without turning off the LCD? > >When I'm typing in the sunlight, I can see the screen just fine and I'd like > >to save some power by turning off the backlight. John, I'm simply amazed that you feel this way! I have a 750C and when I'm outdoors, I can barely see a blasted thing at all--and then only after some really bad squinting. I find using the TP outdoors tremendously annoying and difficult. The ambient light, whether very sunny or cloudy and overcast, seems to be just too overpoweringly bright--hence, I can't see what's on the screen for beans. If you (or anyone on the list) have a secret method for seeing your TP screen outdoors, please do share it with me. I'd like to use it outdoors, but as of now, it certainly seems unworkable. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 28 06:09:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06228 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 27 Apr 1994 06:17:28 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA28232; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 03:31:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 03:31:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu9.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id DAA28200; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 03:31:39 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA03430 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 94 03:17:21 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E19AE0; Wed, 27 Apr 94 03:02:45 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: PCMCIA modem recomendatio From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.375039.700.0CE19AE0@channel1.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 00:38:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: PCMCIA modem recomendatio > I need a PCMCIA modem for my 750C. I got the Intel 14/14 but they ask >to replace all the PCMCIA driver that came with the TP. I was not ready >to do that. Can any one recomend a modem that is simple to install and is >supported under DOS/Windows and OS/2... >Thanks in advance, Hi Arie, I was all psyched up for my purchase of a AT&T KIT modem. I was told by several people at First Source and ComputAbility, that the KIT modem could be upgraded to V-Fast with Firmware. After reading the same from several people here on our list, I decided to order it. Boy, was I in for a shock when I called AT&T for support.....NO, the AT&T KIT can not be upgraded to V-Fast or V-Turbo!! NO, there are no plans to do so, now, or for the foreseeable future. The only thing that you can upgrade is the error correction part of the modem. I also asked the AT&T tech people about any plans to allow present owners of the KIT modems to exchange the 14.4 with the future V-Fast models. The reply was , "no, no plans!" I thanked him, and promptly called ComputAbility for a RA#. Since my second choice was Megahertz XJ2144, I called them to inquire on upgrade policies, if any existed. I was told that there was an exchange policy recently implemented, that would allow the owner of a XJ2144 to exchange their modem for a faster model (V-Turbo or V-Fast), whenever they are made available. You would then just pay S/H and the difference in price. I can't stress enough how HAPPY I'm with my Megahertz XJ2144. It was a snap to install and configure!! The XJack is a GREAT option!! I ended up buying it from ComputAbility, since there was nothing wrong with the AT&T modem, they gave me a hard time on the return...i was just about to stomp on the darn thing, so i could tell them that YES...there was something wrong with it! So I just went for the exchange to avoid any more hassle. The price was right also. $329. delivered! 1-800-558-0003 Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 28 06:30:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06794 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 27 Apr 1994 06:23:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA12198; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 23:43:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 23:43:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA12182; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 23:43:08 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA01690; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 20:41:00 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 08:43:44 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <31425.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Answers to a few questions Status: OR I'm too lazy to edit this down. Hope Ken doesn't mind. He's answered some questions, and brought up a few new questions. Oh well. :) Oh, and I've already forwarded this to the software.watson.ibm.com ftp site administrator. It looks like this stuff *will* be available via ftp, it's just a question of when. Send any other questions to me and I'll queue them up and forward them. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Inoue Tue, 26 Apr 94 13:09:53 JST To: John Kim Subject: Who at IBM is in charge of TP750 stuff? John, My apologies for the delay in responding to you. I have been waiting for news on the IBM Internet FTP site. To cut a long story short, we (ThinkPad development) can authorize the FTP site coordinator to make the drivers package available to public, *IF* she/he agrees. The Watson FTP site coordinator hasn't returned our calls... if you know her/his Internet ID you may want to try alerting the coordinator to the situation. Now to answer your questions as best I can: >1. Somebody who asked IBM tech support about installing a larger hard drive >was told that the BIOS won't support a hard drive larger than 340 MB. Is >this true? And if it isn't, how do you configure the BIOS to recognize, >say, a 500 MB hard drive with x cylinders, y sectors, etc? The tech support is correct in that the BIOS has not been tested with anything larger than the 340MB drive that we offer. Also, as you know, there is a magic number (528 million bytes) imposed by current IDE drive interface spec. To go beyond that magic number would require changes to BIOS. As for drives between 340M and 528M, anything goes; the drive may work if the drive supports the IDE identity command that returns drive parameters such as cyls/sectors/heads. Please note however that your warranty will be void if your 750 fails (e.g. fuse blowout due to too much peak power drain) as a result of using an unsupported drive. >2. Is there any way to increase the tracking speed of the Trackpoint II >under OS/2? The OS/2 mouse control is already at maximum sensitivity and >it's still too slow. Sorry but this is an OS/2 issue; as you know, the OS/2 development is in Boca Raton, FL - on the wrong side of the Pacific pond :) Your best bet might be to patch the OS/2 mouse driver. I understand the source code CD-ROM is availble from IBM. You may want to call OS/2 tech support or try OS/2 support forums on CompuServe. >3. Where's a better source of TP750 technical info? The technical manuals >are terrible. Perhaps the technical reference manuals for individual chipsets (e.g. Intel 486SL, Western Digital WD90C24) might be better at describing the in-depth details that interest you. However, please note that programs written directly to the hardware registers will not be guaranteed to work in future models of ThinkPads. >4. Is there a way to turn the backlight off without turning off the LCD? >When I'm typing in the sunlight, I can see the screen just fine and I'd like >to save some power by turning off the backlight. I am afraid turning off the backlight would make the screen unreadable, the ambient light notwithstanding. The screen has to be of a type called 'transflective' to begin with, to make it feasible; it takes something like a half mirror which passes through backlight but at the same time reflects the incoming light to some degree. None of the 750 line features a transflective panel. (In case you are wondering why: just as a half mirror can't do as good a job of reflecting light as a normal mirror or of passing light as a transparent window, transflective mono LCDs are generally not quite as bright as normal backlit LCDs of comparable power consumption, because the reflecting part absorbs the backlight. To the best of my knowledge no manufacturer produces a transflective color LCD, because the color filters absorb so much light (approx. 2/3 - e.g. the Red filter blocks Green and Blue) that any reflected light, reduced to about 1/9 of the original intensity after passing through the filters twice, just isn't enough to make the screen readable.) >5. What's different about the floppy drive? What gap values, etc, are used >for 2.88 Mb drives, and why does the drive change line act differently? The diskette drive controller is configured to be compatible with PS/2 Model 30, the first AT bus PS/2. > 6. How do I read the battery capacity from a program? One way to do this in DOS is to use APM BIOS. The APM specification version 1.1 (by Intel et al.) is on CompuServe PLUGPLAY forum; the 750 supports version 1.0 but if I remember correctly the battery status interface should be the same between 1.0 and 1.1. Please be careful about some of the APM BIOS calls that control system power state, as improper use of these calls can result in system crash (the APM BIOS calls were not meant to be used by two power managers). I am afraid that currently there is no easy way to do this in OS/2 without interfering with the operation of the standard power manager. Hope this answers your questions. Sincerely, Ken Inoue -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 28 09:37:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23779 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 09:37:20 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA26906; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 09:56:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 09:56:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA26894; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 09:56:27 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com ([153.113.1.1]) by dsd.northrop.com (4.1/Gatemaster-4.1) id AA02796; Thu, 28 Apr 94 09:05:36 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0pwWT8-0009b1C; Thu, 28 Apr 94 08:49 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0pwWZD-00000GC; Thu, 28 Apr 94 08:55 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@bart.dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Answers to a few questions To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 08:55:51 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <36170.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Apr 27, 94 10:02:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > Oops, I should've mentioned I've got a 750 mono. The contrast becomes > really sharp under sunlight. Annoyingly so. I have to switch the screen to > inverse so it'll look more like a watch LCD (black on white) instead of the > white on black (which seems like inverse under sunlight to my brain). Well its good to see that someone else has a mono 750. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 28 10:29:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18352 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 10:29:14 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA02171; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 10:55:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 10:55:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA02163; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 10:55:53 -0400 Message-Id: <199404281455.KAA02163@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6839; Thu, 28 Apr 94 10:55:46 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 8610; Thu, 28 Apr 94 10:55:46 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (NJE origin KRUCK@WVNVM) by WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7293; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 10:53:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 10:53:03 EDT From: "Ruckstuhl, Keith E" To: Subject: bad HD, good return Status: OR TP750 mono, 340 meg HD Hi- last week, the humming sound of the HD increased by 2x-5x, (varied), often changing when I wrote to or read from the disk. I called IBM direct (from whom I ordered), and had a new drive the next day. It took me the whole weekend to transfer all my files (groan). I was very pleased with IBM direct's service and handeling of my problem. Has anyone else had problems with their HDs? Is this going to happen every 6 months? Thanks, Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 28 11:41:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21243 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 11:41:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA07862; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 11:54:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 11:54:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA07844; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 11:54:31 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA28444; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 08:54:12 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA19628; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 08:54:10 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199404281554.IAA19628@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem recomend To: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 08:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <40.375605.700.0CE19B25@channel1.com> from "Joseph Pereira" at Apr 27, 94 03:25:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > A few more questions--how do you handle the opening for your PCMCIA > Leaving the door off, exposes the interior to dust and whatever else > crawls in there. I use the *windowed* cover. It covers most of the > opening, leaving just enough room for your cards and still allows you > pop out the XJack without any difficulty! The cover also makes it > cosmetically more appealing! ;) I tell you Randy, the attention to > small details says a lot for the 750c designers!! I'm glad you like it--I think it is rather annoying! The cover covers the "removal" buttons, so you can't remove the card without great difficulty (getting that cover off is a *bear*--I've found the only way to do it easily is to open the keyboard, remove the hard drive, and push the little hook back). From what I understand, many of these cards require, when you suspend the machine, to be removed and plugged back in again to "revive"--is this true? If so, those removal buttons must be accessable. I would have much preferred some sort of sliding cover (much like the slider on the back for the docking station connector) which would have allowed easier access and maintained protection. I find the current covers *very* difficult to make use of. Is there a secret method I'm not aware of? > The other day I started to time the battery with the modem active > (drivers loaded), I had to take off, but I had it going for at least 2 > hours. I'm trying to get the info to Sean, but I'm not quite finished. I > wonder how many responses Sean received?! Very few--something like less than 5. He's been quite disappointed. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 28 12:59:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29524 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:59:14 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA13898; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 13:13:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 13:13:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA13890; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 13:13:03 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA07127 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:12:42 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199404281712.AA07127@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Mail burps To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:12:41 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I just wanted eveyone to know that I've been having severe mail problems here at my site. Apparently, we had such a flood of mail and disk use that our mail had to be rejected, held on another system, or bounced til they can be sorted out. So I've been slow in getting mail. But I will get back to everyone as soon as I get the mail. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 28 13:21:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09352 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 13:21:19 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA12233; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:49:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:49:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA12226; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:49:04 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 1729; Thu, 28 Apr 94 12:49:04 EDT Received: from YKTVMH by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 5337; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:48:57 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmh.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Thu, 28 Apr 94 12:48:56 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA26194; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:49:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:49:00 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9404281649.AA26194@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Randal Whittle's message of Thu, 28 Apr 1994 08:54:10 -0700 (PDT) <199404281554.IAA19628@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: PCMCIA modem recomend Status: OR >> I use the *windowed* cover. It covers most of the >> opening, leaving just enough room for your cards and still allows you >> pop out the XJack without any difficulty! > > I'm glad you like it--I think it is rather annoying! The cover >covers the "removal" buttons, so you can't remove the card without great >difficulty (getting that cover off is a *bear*--I've found the only way to >do it easily is to open the keyboard, remove the hard drive, and push the >little hook back). I find that the PCMCIA cover is very easy to remove by inserting a paper clip into the little groove on the side of the cover. It seems to me that this groove was specifically put there for this purpose. If you can't find one, you could order part 66G4423 Paper Clip from IBM. heh heh. By the way, I just bought the Megahertz XJ1144 modem at the new CompUSA super store in NYC for $280. --andy From wpa@psu.edu Thu Apr 28 13:21:55 1994 Received: from genesis.ait.psu.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AB09405 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 13:21:32 -0500 Received: from [146.186.154.28] (rick.hrrm.psu.edu) by genesis.ait.psu.edu with SMTP id AA09761 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 13:24:36 -0400 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 13:24:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Rick Andrew" Sender: wpa@psu.edu Message-Id: <48277.wpa@email.psu.edu> To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Enabling 32 bit access in Windows on Thinkpad Status: OR In message Mon, 21 Mar 1994 01:31:22 -0600 (CST), Sean Chou writes: > >> I am working on it. I have a 3Comm card ordered (the $99 special). It >> apparently isn't supported by EasyPlay yet and cannot be hot >> plugged/unplugged but I am going to put it in a port replicator where >> it > > Have you tried to make an entry for it? I haven't explored the issure > much yet but I would be interested in such a beast when I get my card... > > >> I use the TP at the office. We will see. I will let you know how it >> all works out. >> > > Thank you! > Sean, just to give you an update. I recieved my 3Comm card and with much hassle have got it installed and working. Fortunatly, we have a great tech support guy in my department and he handled the whole thing. I actually couldn't begin to tell you what he did. I do know, however, that we originally loaded it through my regular config.sys file and it just took too much time to boot up - several minutes before it ran through all of the drivers. Also, DOS ram was in the lower 500 k range. (We have some special problems here at Penn State because I wanted to be able to use the University net system and it uses some rather antiquated and bulky drivers.) To make a long story short, we decided to use three boot files in the config.sys: Normal (PCMCIA drivers and WFWG), Net (3Comm drivers, PCMCIA drivers and WFWG - but WFWG not used as a server), and Games. This setup seems to be working fine. Also, we have not been able to figure out yet how to get the 3Comm driver to recognize the ports in the replicator. I have had to load the 3Comm card in the TP. Using EasyPlay, this was no problem. It recognized the 3Comm card by name in slot 4 (or 3) but of course doesn't have the information to configure the card. I would like to leave the 3Comm card in the replicator and not have to carry it in the TP as the only place I use the card is at work. So our tech support guy says he is going to try and work on this. Maybe IBM will come out with an updated version of EasyPlay that will support the 3Comm card. That would be nice. And then again, maybe it will take until Microsoft comes out with "Chicago" where (hopefully) all of these kinds of problems will go away. BTW, great job on the mailing list. I find it extremely helpful and interesting! Rick ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ WPA@psu.edu Rick Andrew <*> HRI Finance WPA@psuvm.psu.edu Penn State Univ 814-863-0272 University Park, PA 16802 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 28 13:37:18 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16182 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 13:36:45 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA11490; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:39:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:39:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA11478; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:39:46 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA20566 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 11:39:24 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199404281639.AA20566@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem recomend To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 11:39:22 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <40.375605.700.0CE19B25@channel1.com> from "Joseph Pereira" at Apr 27, 94 03:24:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > >> I can't stress enough how HAPPY I'm with my Megahertz XJ2144. It was a > >> snap to install and configure!! The XJack is a GREAT option!! With the XJ2144 out, I'd have to say it's the one to get for anyone who's just coming into the PCMCIA modem market. > without it being loaded via Config.sys...wouldn't use any extra power. I > think that if the modem drivers are loaded, power drainage would be the > same, regardless if the modem is in use or dormant! I believe that as long as the PCMCIA light is on, power is being provided to your PCMCIA cards; however, I've been told by IBM rep (on CompuServe) that the power consumption is very low while it is inactive and not that much higher when it is active. > The other day I started to time the battery with the modem active > (drivers loaded), I had to take off, but I had it going for at least 2 > hours. I'm trying to get the info to Sean, but I'm not quite finished. I > wonder how many responses Sean received?! Not enough yet! :) Hint, hint! ;) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 28 14:10:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02505 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 14:10:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA13722; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 13:11:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 13:11:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA13703; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 13:10:54 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA05953 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:10:34 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199404281710.AA05953@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem recomend To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:10:33 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199404281554.IAA19628@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Apr 28, 94 08:53:56 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I'm glad you like it--I think it is rather annoying! The cover > covers the "removal" buttons, so you can't remove the card without great > difficulty (getting that cover off is a *bear*--I've found the only way to > do it easily is to open the keyboard, remove the hard drive, and push the > little hook back). From what I understand, many of these cards require, > when you suspend the machine, to be removed and plugged back in again to > "revive"--is this true? If so, those removal buttons must be accessable. I would tend to agree with you on the port covers. However, it seems that the port covers all have different degrees of difficulty and tightness. My closed one is nearly impossible to take off and I have to take a blunt but edged object to it (or try your approach). However, my open cover is really quite a snap...I just hope it's not such a snap it falls out! :) As far as requiring a hotplug....that's not really true as far as suspend mode goes. It's hibernation mode that usually does the trick for me. I just pull it out and put it back in. > I would have much preferred some sort of sliding cover (much like > the slider on the back for the docking station connector) which would > have allowed easier access and maintained protection. I find the current > covers *very* difficult to make use of. Is there a secret method I'm not > aware of? Agreed. You might make life a little easier by filing off a bit of the part that holds the port cover in. Or, as I did, just squish it until it's a bit bent... > > wonder how many responses Sean received?! > > Very few--something like less than 5. He's been quite disappointed. Not enough to really make anything out of. I think I'll, when given time, will just put those into the FAQ so we have at least some sort of inkling of "real-world" time... From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 28 14:15:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05786 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 14:15:38 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA11057; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:32:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:32:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA11050; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:32:34 -0400 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwnpi01688; Thu, 28 Apr 94 12:31:39 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10647; Thu, 28 Apr 94 09:27:29 PDT Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA04971; Thu, 28 Apr 94 09:31:46 PDT Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28359; Thu, 28 Apr 94 09:29:47 PDT Date: Thu, 28 Apr 94 09:29:47 PDT From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9404281629.AA28359@opus.objy.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem recomend Status: OR > > > A few more questions--how do you handle the opening for your PCMCIA > > Leaving the door off, exposes the interior to dust and whatever else > > crawls in there. I use the *windowed* cover. It covers most of the > > opening, leaving just enough room for your cards and still allows you > > pop out the XJack without any difficulty! The cover also makes it > > cosmetically more appealing! ;) I tell you Randy, the attention to > > small details says a lot for the 750c designers!! > > I'm glad you like it--I think it is rather annoying! The cover > covers the "removal" buttons, so you can't remove the card without great > difficulty (getting that cover off is a *bear*--I've found the only way to > do it easily is to open the keyboard, remove the hard drive, and push the > little hook back). From what I understand, many of these cards require, > when you suspend the machine, to be removed and plugged back in again to > "revive"--is this true? If so, those removal buttons must be accessable. I agree with Randy, though I didn't even receive the cover with my TP. A friend has one and we both decided it was useless, so I never bothered to query IBM about it. I mean, as long as there's *some* opening dust is still going to get in, right? And I do have to eject my modem before going into suspend because sometimes it won't suspend if left in and even if it does it won't be recognizeable when the system is resumed. I take it this is a bug in the IBM drivers, like they are forgetting to turn the PCMCIA power back on when resuming (could it be that simple??) > I would have much preferred some sort of sliding cover (much like > the slider on the back for the docking station connector) which would > have allowed easier access and maintained protection. I find the current > covers *very* difficult to make use of. Is there a secret method I'm not > aware of? Stop biting your fingernails! There is a little notch at the rear of the cover and a fingernail of suitable length works everytime for me. And yes, I think a sliding cover would have been much better. Why do all laptops have such flimsy doors? I know weight is a consideration, but the door on the back of the TP would be a lot more durable if it were twice as thick and had metal pinned hinges. I've seen so many laptops with missing doors that have broken off and I'm afraid my TP will eventually suffer the same fate. --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 28 14:46:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22711 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 14:46:04 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA21906; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 14:44:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 14:44:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA21887; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 14:44:32 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA07420; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 11:03:34 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA03046; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 11:03:13 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199404281803.LAA03046@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem recomend To: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 11:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9404281649.AA26194@jimi.watson.ibm.com> from "Andrew Stevens" at Apr 28, 94 12:49:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > >difficulty (getting that cover off is a *bear*--I've found the only way to > >do it easily is to open the keyboard, remove the hard drive, and push the > >little hook back). > > I find that the PCMCIA cover is very easy to remove by inserting a > paper clip into the little groove on the side of the cover. It seems > to me that this groove was specifically put there for this purpose. I don't have much luck getting anything down that little groove. > If you can't find one, you could order part 66G4423 Paper Clip from > IBM. heh heh. This would be funnier if it weren't so TRUE! :) > By the way, I just bought the Megahertz XJ1144 modem at the new CompUSA > super store in NYC for $280. Good price--but are you aware that MHz has had a model XJ2144 available for some time now? It emulates a 16550 UART chip--the XJ1144 does not. You may want to exchange it. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 28 18:04:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04753 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 18:04:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA13004; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 18:27:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 18:26:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id SAA12997; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 18:26:57 -0400 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA06851; Thu, 28 Apr 94 15:26:47 PDT Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14736; Thu, 28 Apr 94 15:25:24 PDT Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01072; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 15:26:07 +0800 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 15:26:07 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9404282226.AA01072@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu Cc: stevens@watson.ibm.com, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem recomend In-Reply-To: <199404281803.LAA03046@aludra.usc.edu> References: <9404281649.AA26194@jimi.watson.ibm.com> <199404281803.LAA03046@aludra.usc.edu> Status: OR > model XJ2144 ... emulates a 16550 UART chip--the XJ1144 does not. My XJ1144 emulates a 16550AF. Early models didn't, but later models (look for "C39-" at the beginning of the serial number) do. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 28 19:28:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06084 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 19:28:14 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA19744; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 20:02:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 20:02:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id UAA19737; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 20:02:05 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id UAA21990 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 20:03:27 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E19F8F; Thu, 28 Apr 94 19:51:53 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: PCMCIA modem recomend From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.376833.700.0CE19F8F@channel1.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 94 18:22:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1 Communications Status: OR Subject: PCMCIA modem recomend >By the way, I just bought the Megahertz XJ1144 modem at the new CompUSA >super store in NYC for $280. The XJ1144 doesn't allow for cellular communication. The *newer* XJ2144 does, it's $329. delivered from ComputAbility! 1-800-558-0003 Joseph Pereira From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 28 20:56:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04480 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 28 Apr 1994 20:56:02 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA24897; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 21:16:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 21:16:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA24876; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 21:15:58 -0400 Received: from [128.120.18.126] by ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (8.6.8/UCD2.50) id SAA25796; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 18:04:54 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 18:04:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199404290104.SAA25796@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: sztarkin@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: bktarkington@ucdavis.edu (Brian K. Tarkington) Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem supplier Status: OR >Subject: PCMCIA modem recomend > > >>By the way, I just bought the Megahertz XJ1144 modem at the new CompUSA >>super store in NYC for $280. > >The XJ1144 doesn't allow for cellular communication. The *newer* XJ2144 >does, it's $329. delivered from ComputAbility! 1-800-558-0003 >Joseph Pereira People interested in PCMCIA modems might also contact Sparco (601)323-5360 or sparco@sparco.com. They had very favorable prices when I bought mine. Brian K. Tarkington University of California at Davis bktarkington@ucdavis.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 29 01:22:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01161 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 29 Apr 1994 01:22:52 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA12774; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 01:52:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 01:52:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA12726; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 01:51:59 -0400 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id IAA07217 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 08:51:55 +0300 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id IAA18302 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 08:51:34 +0300 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 08:51:34 +0300 Message-Id: <199404290551.IAA18302@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: Will there be a TP75x-mono ? X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi! The information on this list on the new TP755s indicated that there will be= =20 both TP755C and TP755Cs available. Of all the TP750s the mono model fulfills= =20 my needs best (longer battery life, less weight, feel more rugged than color= =20 models). Since the 750-mono has been discontinued I wonder if there will be= =20 a high end mono TP available. I=B4ve heard rumours that there would be. Can= =20 anyone confirm? Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University DataCity FIN-20520 Turku From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 29 01:27:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02201 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 29 Apr 1994 01:27:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA13371; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 02:02:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 02:02:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA13354; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 02:02:41 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA24666 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Fri, 29 Apr 1994 01:02:22 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199404290602.AA24666@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: 3COM PCMCIA card To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 01:02:20 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <48277.wpa@email.psu.edu> from "Rick Andrew" at Apr 28, 94 01:24:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Sean, just to give you an update. I recieved my 3Comm card and with much > hassle have got it installed and working. Fortunatly, we have a great tech > support guy in my department and he handled the whole thing. I actually Great! At least we know it does indeed work. I'm still interested in how configurable (if any) EasyPlay is. I seem to remember someone saying that Ethernet cards were supported but that it was initially commented out... > the TP. Using EasyPlay, this was no problem. It recognized the 3Comm card by > name in slot 4 (or 3) but of course doesn't have the information to > configure the card. I would like to leave the 3Comm card in the replicator It seems that we should be able to provide the info. Does it come with an enabler? > support the 3Comm card. That would be nice. And then again, maybe it will > take until Microsoft comes out with "Chicago" where (hopefully) all of these > kinds of problems will go away. Unforunately, that'll probably take newer hardware than what we'll have by the time it comes. Unless, our BIOS can support it... :) > BTW, great job on the mailing list. I find it extremely helpful and > interesting! Great! Keep us informed on any progress you make with the 3Com card. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 29 04:33:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01501 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 29 Apr 1994 04:33:20 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA25057; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 05:02:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 05:02:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mercury.king.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA25046; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 05:02:00 -0400 Message-Id: <199404290902.FAA25046@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from ceres.kingston.ac.uk by mercury.kingston.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <22793-0@mercury.kingston.ac.uk>; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 10:02:18 +0100 Received: from kingston.ac.uk by ceres.kingston.ac.uk id <29033-0@ceres.kingston.ac.uk>; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 10:01:02 +0100 From: Sergio Terenas Subject: PCMCIA Modems / Speeds / US / UK To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: MMDF/Ream v4.16b Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 10:01:02 +0100 Sender: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk Status: OR Everyone, You keep mentioning PCMCIA modems from Sparco, Megahertz, AT&T, et al but I seem not to recall the speed at which they operate. are they all 28.8 or still 14.4 bps ? Since prices here in the UK kind of double the ones in the US, I was wondering if there's any chance of getting a PCMCIA modem and/or 8Mb RAM for my tp750 mono from the US. Any mail-order companies that do this ? One can do this with books, order them from the US, get them in the UK half price! To someone here in the UK, even if I had to pay VAT and import tax, wouldn't it STILL be chepaer to get the things from the States ? Greetings, Sergio From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 29 06:17:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16744 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 29 Apr 1994 06:17:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA01518; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 05:36:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 05:36:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from werple.apana.org.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id FAA01509; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 05:36:00 -0400 Received: (from guardian@localhost) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id TAA19469; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 19:35:24 +1000 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 19:33:29 +1000 (EST) From: Nick Allan Subject: pcmcia network cards To: thinkpad mailinglist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hi all I'm still having problems with my ibm pcmcia credit card adapter. I can't get socket services to work with it. using autodrv and uncommenting the ethernet part of the autodrv.ini file doesn't help. Anyone got any ideas. IBM tech support can't seem to come up with anything except get rid of qemm. which I've done and it doesn't make any difference. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Regards Nick Guardian@werple.apana.org.au From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 29 09:59:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29257 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 29 Apr 1994 09:59:17 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA23011; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 10:32:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 10:32:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from INS.INFONET.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id KAA23000; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 10:32:19 -0400 Received: from picard.infonet.net by INS.INFONET.NET with SMTP; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 9:35:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (bptech@localhost) by picard.infonet.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA19847 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 29 Apr 1994 09:33:45 -0500 From: Broadcast Partners Message-Id: <199404291433.JAA19847@picard.infonet.net> Subject: IBM Token Ring PCMCIA To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 09:33:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Status: OR Hi everybody. I am trying to get an IBM token ring card installed one of our TP750's. I don't seem to be haveing very much luck. Has anyone else been able to successfully install on of these PCMCIA cards under DOS, and if so how did you do it. A short step-by-step explanation would be greatly appreciated, and possibly a peek at your config.sys file. Thanks a lot. Derrick Sharpe Broadcast Partners bptech@picard.infonet.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 3 12:10:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28610 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 May 1994 12:10:27 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA20898; Tue, 3 May 1994 12:33:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 May 1994 12:33:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hk.super.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA20885; Tue, 3 May 1994 12:33:18 -0400 Received: by hk.super.net id AA08818 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 4 May 1994 00:18:34 +0800 Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 00:18:34 +0800 From: "Mr. Tony K Ng" Message-Id: <199405031618.AA08818@hk.super.net> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Hi there, A friend of mine is coming from US to Hong Kong and will bring me the updated utilities diskettes from IBM BBS. So, I would like to know what is the most recent versions of the diskettes. The following is what I know. Please updated it. Also could you please give me the filenames and paths? Audio 1.10 System 1.04 Utility 1.20 Video 1.12 Thanks a lot for your help! -Tony From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue May 3 13:50:43 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16582 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 May 1994 13:50:33 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA25141; Tue, 3 May 1994 13:46:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 May 1994 13:46:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from oz.geology.washington.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id NAA25131; Tue, 3 May 1994 13:46:48 -0400 Received: by oz.geology.washington.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA20521; Tue, 3 May 94 10:34:01 PDT Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 10:13:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor C. Kress" Subject: 3com ethernet saga To: Thinkpad Forum Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I recently purchased a 3com combo 10bt-10b2 card, and it seems to be working fine with Easy Play. I have version 3.5 of the 3com drivers and v.1.01 of Easyplay. EasyPlay recognized the ethernet card right away when the ipx etc. drivers were not loaded, including hot-plugging. EasyPlay locked the computer quite effectively (even ctrl-alt-del was disabled) when the drivers were loaded. In the CS_HLPR directory of the 3com disk there are 2 files. One is a readme file which describes this problem. Apparently, the 3com uses an enabler-style driver which isn't good at communicating with card-services drivers. When card services are requested, the 3com drivers are automaticly turned off, locking your computer big time. They do provide a fix. Also in the CS_HLPR directory is a file called HELP_589.DOS. By loading this file onto your hard disk, and loading in in your CONFIG.SYS after the AUTODRV.INI, all conflicts are reconciled. I can now use the 3com card and EasyPlay with no problems. I assume that users of real operating systems don't have to bother with all of this whoii. Good Luck -Victor Kress From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 3 14:11:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26403 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 May 1994 14:11:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA00517; Tue, 3 May 1994 14:42:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 May 1994 14:42:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from erb1.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA00510; Tue, 3 May 1994 14:42:16 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu by erb1.engr.wisc.edu (4.1/31) id AA23478; Tue, 3 May 94 13:42:12 CDT Date: Tue, 3 May 94 13:42:12 CDT Message-Id: <9405031842.AA23478@erb1.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: 3COM PCMCIA & Thinkpad X-Mailer: Status: OR Well, I just got my 3com pcmcia card yesterday. There is good news and bad news. Here's the scoop: THE GOOD NEWS: The 3com card does not support being dynamically configured by easyplay. But it can work with Easyplay with a "static" configuration. There is no 3com "enabler" in the traditional sense. Instead, they have a 3com configure program which you can use to tell the card which interrupt, I/O, etc, to use. Then these values get stored on the card somehow (NVRAM?). So, I used this configure program to set some reasonable values. Then I edited my autodrv.ini file's ETHER section so that the only configuratuion ezplay had to "try" for an ethernet card was the same configuration which the 3com was setup for in NVRAM. After that, by just loading the ibm ezplay drivers, i could use the 3com board and the megaherz modem fine. in other words, i did not have to load any 3com pcmcia drivers, etc (except of course the ODI driver!). i was happy. HOWEVER, HERE'S THE BAD NEWS: The 3com board does _NOT_ work in the port replicator slots!! :-( It works fine in the 750 slots, but not in slot C or slot D in my port replicator. I was very disappointed. Has anyone got it to work in the port replicator (i doubt it...) I called 3com tech support and bitched, and they called back and said they have an ibm pcmcia port replicator on order. When it arrives (gee, even 3com has to wait for thinkpad stuff!) they say they will at least look into the problem. no promises, however. they also said i was not the first one to complain about this. i encourage others on this list to complain about this! the more people who bitch the higher priority 3com will place on fixing this. sigh. i think i hate pcmcia. -Todd From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 3 15:31:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04669 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 May 1994 15:31:30 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA08060; Tue, 3 May 1994 16:07:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 May 1994 16:07:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from genesis.ait.psu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA08042; Tue, 3 May 1994 16:07:01 -0400 Received: from [146.186.154.28] (rick.hrrm.psu.edu) by genesis.ait.psu.edu with SMTP id AA05847 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 3 May 1994 16:06:37 -0400 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 16:06:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Rick Andrew" Sender: wpa@psu.edu Message-Id: <57964.wpa@email.psu.edu> To: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: 3COM PCMCIA & Thinkpad Status: OR In message Tue, 3 May 94 13:42:12 CDT, tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) writes: > The 3com board does _NOT_ work in the port replicator slots!! :-( > It works fine in the 750 slots, but not in slot C or slot D in > my port replicator. I was very disappointed. Has anyone got > it to work in the port replicator (i doubt it...) No, I have had exactly the same problem. It would be nice to put the card in the replicator and leave it there. I called 3com tech > support and bitched, and they called back and said they have an ibm pcmcia > port replicator on order. When it arrives (gee, even 3com has to wait > for thinkpad stuff!) they say they will at least look into the problem. > no promises, however. they also said i was not the first one to complain > about this. i encourage others on this list to complain about this! > the more people who bitch the higher priority 3com will place on fixing > this. What is the phone number? I will definitely call. Rick ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ WPA@psu.edu Rick Andrew <*> HRI Finance WPA@psuvm.psu.edu Penn State Univ 814-863-0272 University Park, PA 16802 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 3 16:56:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15409 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 May 1994 16:56:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id RAA16122; Tue, 3 May 1994 17:31:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 May 1994 17:31:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id RAA16111; Tue, 3 May 1994 17:30:59 -0400 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwoio02419; Tue, 3 May 94 17:30:55 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25131; Tue, 3 May 94 14:26:26 PDT Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA17113; Tue, 3 May 94 14:31:03 PDT Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03706; Tue, 3 May 94 14:29:30 PDT Date: Tue, 3 May 94 14:29:30 PDT From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9405032129.AA03706@opus.objy.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 3com ethernet saga Status: OR While we're on the subject, anyone know a good low-priced source for the 3COM card? --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 3 21:15:01 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22542 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 3 May 1994 21:14:58 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA04707; Tue, 3 May 1994 21:47:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 3 May 1994 21:47:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from epas.utoronto.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id VAA04700; Tue, 3 May 1994 21:47:30 -0400 Received: by epas.utoronto.ca (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA17204; Tue, 3 May 94 21:46:46 -0400 From: jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca (James Cummings) Message-Id: <9405040146.AA17204@epas.utoronto.ca> Subject: doom/sound To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Think-Pad 750 Mailing list) Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 21:46:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Has Anyone Got Doom working with the Sound? I mean I can select Pc-Speaker... fine and dandy... but hey... I've tried adlib, SB and a couple others and still not gotten it working. curious, -James jcumming@epas.utoronto.ca | 1994: Official Year of The Toronto Free-Net. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 4 01:54:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16122 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 May 1994 01:54:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA23416; Wed, 4 May 1994 02:32:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 May 1994 02:32:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA23409; Wed, 4 May 1994 02:32:24 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA11643 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 4 May 1994 01:32:07 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405040632.AA11643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Updated drivers To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 01:32:07 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405031618.AA08818@hk.super.net> from "Mr. Tony K Ng" at May 4, 94 00:18:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > System 1.04 I saw a new 1.04e I believe. I d/l'ed it but haven't had a chance to check it out yet. > Utility 1.20 There's a 1.21 Utility disk. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 4 02:02:38 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18364 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 May 1994 02:02:36 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA24040; Wed, 4 May 1994 02:42:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 May 1994 02:42:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id CAA24033; Wed, 4 May 1994 02:42:01 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA13636 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 4 May 1994 01:41:44 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405040641.AA13636@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: PCMCIA Network cards To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 01:41:44 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I noticed that a lot of people have just received their 3COM PCMCIA network adapters. Most people seem happy with some complaints. But no one seems to be using it under OS/2. Anyone? Also, could someone who has a good grasp of the PCMCIA network scene please whip up a message or something that we can add to the FAQ? It seems to be a recurring question and one that I can't handle due to lack of experience. Any takers? Note that this applies to any PCMCIA network card as they probably all have different setups. We'll probably have to include setups for multiple cards... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 4 06:32:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27658 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 May 1994 06:32:43 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id HAA16737; Wed, 4 May 1994 07:05:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 May 1994 07:05:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from post.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id HAA16721; Wed, 4 May 1994 07:05:27 -0400 Received: from filtroni.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa19833; 4 May 94 11:57 GMT-60:00 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Updates Date: Wed, 4 May 94 11:55:21 BST Message-Id: <9405041155.aa07356@lopass.filtronic.com> Status: OR A friend of mine is coming from US to Hong Kong and will bring me the updated utilities diskettes from IBM BBS. So, I would like to know what is the most recent versions of the diskettes. The following And is there OS/2 support for the audio yet? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 4 10:53:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07037 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 May 1994 10:52:40 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA04905; Wed, 4 May 1994 11:15:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 May 1994 11:15:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA04866; Wed, 4 May 1994 11:15:22 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA01198; Wed, 4 May 1994 08:15:19 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA07611; Wed, 4 May 1994 08:15:13 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405041515.IAA07611@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 3com ethernet saga To: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 08:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9405032129.AA03706@opus.objy.com> from "Bruce Reed" at May 3, 94 02:29:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > While we're on the subject, anyone know a good low-priced source > for the 3COM card? Direct from 3Com! They were (maybe still are) running a special promotion! $99 for the PCMCIA 10BT, $129 for a combo. Its a steal! You can call them at (800) 638-3266 for more info. (They also had a special on ISA Ethernet cards--2 for the price of one--$100. I got a pair of those too!) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 4 10:53:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07382 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 May 1994 10:53:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA04628; Wed, 4 May 1994 11:11:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 May 1994 11:11:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA04620; Wed, 4 May 1994 11:11:48 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id IAA29658; Wed, 4 May 1994 08:12:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 08:12:43 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199405041512.IAA29658@netcom.com> To: mike@filtronic.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Updates Status: OR OS/2 support for audio for the thinkpad actually works better for me. I have a number of games ( just testing my new thinkpad) that do not work with full audio support under DOS ( links 386 pro Sim Cit 2000) but when run under a DOS VDM in OS/2 work with full sound. Martin Smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 4 18:30:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24003 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 May 1994 18:30:16 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA13352; Wed, 4 May 1994 19:07:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 4 May 1994 19:07:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tink.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id TAA13337; Wed, 4 May 1994 19:06:56 -0400 Received: from athena.fi.gs.com by tink.com (PMDF V4.3-7 #5880) id <01HBYA9EWMGG8WYHC1@tink.com>; Wed, 4 May 1994 19:05:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paradev1 (paradev1.psd.gs.com) by gs.com (PMDF V4.2-12 #3223) id <01HBYAAA8TTC8YVXU6@gs.com>; Wed, 4 May 1994 19:06:31 EDT Received: from escher.psd.gs.com by paradev1 (4.1/Para2.1) id AA24234; Wed, 4 May 94 19:06:35 EDT Received: by escher.psd.gs.com (4.1/Para2.1) id AA03174; Wed, 4 May 94 19:06:35 EDT Date: Wed, 04 May 1994 19:06:35 -0400 (EDT) From: padwad@psd.gs.com (Danny Padwa) Subject: EasyPlay, IBM Ethernet Adapters, and ODI Has anyone gotten this threesome to work together? I'd used To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <9405042306.AA24234@paradev1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: OR ODI on my IBM Ethernet card with the Phoenix drivers....no sweat. Except, of course, for the (conventional) memory utilization, which prevented Xware from running atop PC/TCP on the ether card. When I switched to Easy Play, the memory looked much better. But I can't get the ODI stuff to load...pcmdmcs complains with Startup Error: A Node Address is required to complete startup. Any thoughts or ideas?? Thanx, Danny Padwa padwad@psd.gs.com PS> Forgot to mention....750C, 12MB, Dos 6.1, Win 3.1, EasyPlay calls itself version 1.01 From mike@filtronic.com Wed May 4 18:09:19 1994 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16740 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 May 1994 18:09:05 -0500 Received: from filtroni.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id ac21080; 4 May 94 23:59 GMT-60:00 From: Mike O'Carroll X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: PCMCIA Network cards Date: Wed, 4 May 94 11:59:42 BST Message-Id: <9405041159.aa07384@lopass.filtronic.com> Status: OR I noticed that a lot of people have just received their 3COM PCMCIA network adapters. Most people seem happy with some complaints. But no one seems to be using it under OS/2. Anyone? I have IBM's CC Ethernet adaptor working under OS/2. The only problem is when you start the system with no network connection, it takes an age to boot up. Guess it should be possible to shorten the timeouts? Almost makes me wish for config boot menus ... almost :-) Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 6 12:05:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20817 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 6 May 1994 12:05:44 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA11225; Fri, 6 May 1994 12:34:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 6 May 1994 12:34:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA11216; Fri, 6 May 1994 12:34:16 -0400 Received: from batman (BATMAN-CLEAR.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA16678; Fri, 6 May 94 11:29:15 CDT Received: from rover by batman (4.1/client.nfs.930819) id AA07695; Fri, 6 May 94 11:33:19 CDT Date: Fri, 6 May 94 11:33:01 CDT Message-Id: <9405061633.AA07695@batman> X-Sender: byrne@pigpen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Subject: IBM CC Ethernet Adapter X-Mailer: Status: OR Just a note to anyone interested -- I finally got around to configuring my IBM PCMCIA CC Ethernet adapter into Windows for Workgroups. It took some effort, but it now works. Here's a few tidbits on what I had to do: - don't use Easyplay - leave the ignore option set for ethernet in easyplay - get the new ethernet CC disk from the IBM BBS - it has the OEMSETUP.INF file that is needed. - be sure that you get your EMM386 excludes right and consistent with your card services - make sure that your protocol.ini and your system.ini files also have the right adapter addresses in them. As a side note, I'm also running the Daytona/Wolverine TCP/IP stack that is available from the Microsoft FTP and BBS sites. So far, everything is working OK. I'm now able to see and be a part of our Windows NT domain on the network. The only problem is that I keep running out of memory (I still have only 4 megabytes). I had to turn off smartdrive to make it all work without hanging. I have a 16 mbyte card on the way to resolve this problem. Living at 4 mbytes would not be acceptable for long term use. Drop me a note if you'd like more information on my setup. Wes P.S. - while on the IBM BBS, I ran accross two announcements, one that the current IBM Ethernet CC adapter is being discontinued, and the second is the announcement of a new IBM Ethernet CC II adapter. Drop me a note if you'd like me to send you one or both of these announcements. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri May 6 14:35:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15733 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 6 May 1994 14:34:51 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA16936; Fri, 6 May 1994 14:01:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 6 May 1994 14:01:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA16928; Fri, 6 May 1994 14:01:13 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA00971 for ; Fri, 6 May 1994 11:01:00 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA12464 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 6 May 1994 11:00:58 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405061800.LAA12464@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Another though on 3Com PCMCIA To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 11:00:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I too got my 3Com PCMCIA card recently and have had a great deal of luck with making it work (once I figured out how to make a crossover cable-- since I have only 2 computers and no hub on a 10BaseT setup!). I didn't post anything here because it seemed like everyone else also got there's and there was plenty of reviews flying around--so no need for mine. But one thing that seems to have been left out is this comment: Many people have mentioned that their PCMCIA cards of other devices (usually modems) have had to be "hot-plugged"--re-inserted so they would re-activate after the machine had gone into suspend or hibernate mode. The good news is that I have never had to that with the 3Com card. I can suspend and wake-up with impunity and never have to re-plug the card. I presume this has to do with the fact that it bypasses card services and "talks" directly to the port (don't ask me how, but 3Com has it figured out). My guess is that it also makes the card less useful in a wide-variety of machines, since it probably has to play with some special commands that maybe not all (specifically, cheapee) notebooks have. It lists on the box some specific machines it will *not* work with. On another thought--I have a question for those of you who got the 3Com "Combo" PCMCIA card: Does it have 2 different "tails"--one for 10BaseT and one for 10Base2, or what exactly? I am considering getting the combo card for flexibility purposes and returning the 10BaseT only card, but I do not want to have to deal with a big, floppy 10Base2 combination tail when I need only 10BaseT. If I can "choose" the tail I need for the type of network I'm on, I'm willing to spend the extra $30 for the flexibility. Comments, please? ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 6 23:03:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16877 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 6 May 1994 23:03:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA23969; Fri, 6 May 1994 23:39:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 6 May 1994 23:39:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA23960; Fri, 6 May 1994 23:39:40 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA29722 for ; Fri, 6 May 1994 20:00:14 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id UAA29521 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 6 May 1994 20:00:12 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405070300.UAA29521@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: CHEAP PCMCIA Modems To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 20:00:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I ran across this on some private BBS mail (Intelec, I think) and thought those on the list might be interested. I cannot vouch for the seller as I have never done business with him--buy at your own risk. ---- Megahertz 14,400bps, PCMCIA (credit card size) Notebook Data/Fax Modems NEW in Box. 5 Years Warranty! AT&T 14,400 Keep In Touch Card Data/Fax PCMCIA notebook (credit card size) modems, NEW in box. 5 Years Warranty! Full packaging with cards. Winner of PC Magazine Editors Choice award. This modem features a Software-Defined Architecture, meaning that upgrades to the modem can be done thru software so you can have the latest features! All units are NEW, sealed in plastic w/full packaging and cards. YOUR PRICE IS only $210ea. Shipping is included, COD is $5 extra. All items are guarantee to work. Jim Chu (703) 866-4041 ----- Hope its helpful to y'all! ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 6 23:05:18 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17373 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 6 May 1994 23:05:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA24322; Fri, 6 May 1994 23:43:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 6 May 1994 23:43:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ion.apana.org.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA24297; Fri, 6 May 1994 23:43:10 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 7 May 94 13:45 EST From: timn@ion.apana.org.au (Tim Noonan) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Review of Trantor 358 Parallet to SCSI adapter Status: OR This review is very rough. If you want any further info please contact me at timn@ion.apana.org.au This is a very rough review of the Trantor 358 Parallel to SCSI adapter used on the ThinkPad 750 (mono) machine. All the following comments relate to use of the Trantor 358 with an IBM ThinkPad 750 (mono). This cable supports the EPP (Enhanced Parallel Port specification and claims a transfer rate of up to one Megabyte a second. Regular parallel ports with the Trantor 348 achieve about 250-300 K a second. Note that there are now comms cards in ISA and VESA varieties which contain an EPP parallel port FIFO'd uarts and regular and Fast IDE controllers. This Trantor 358 cable is only better than the less expensive Trantor 348 cable if you have an EPP parallel port (the ThinkPad 750 series machines all do. If you are going to use a Tripple speed CDROM drive, a SCSI hard disk or a scanner then the extra speed is very much worth it. If you only plan using a single or double spin CDROM drive or a Floptical drive or a tape drive then probably the extra cost will be on the whole wasted. The product is reasonably well documented, and consists of the Trantor cable (inc. a parallel pass through socket) the manual, Two disks, and a shielded parallel centronics cable. The software is all ASPI based for DOS and therefore can support quite a wide range of devices. Drivers for Photo CD and older CD-ROM drives are provided, as are drivers for the HP II series scanners (though i haven't tried the HP Scanjet iiCX specifically. The iip and iic both work well. I haven't tried it under OS/2 but there is an OS/2 and winnt directory on the drivers disk. Tape back-up software is provided. I have not tried this. Floptical drives and many hard disks are also supported. Basic installation didn't work properly. I kept getting a hang, during booting on the search for the scanner. This was not a problem at slow speed, but with the ps2 speed fast setting I experienced this problem on most occasions. I tried different Parallel port settings etc, but ended up staying with LPT2 as recommended in the FAQ. Finally I moved the ma358 and the scanner and CDROM drivers to the end of the config.sys - this solved all my problems perfectly. Scanner through-put from the HP iiC seems very good. I successfully used the ASPITar (/diskutl/aspibin.zip) program to access my WangDat 3200 DAT drive to backup my hard disk over the Trantor adaptor. This software is available from the simtel archive. Note that tar files with file names longer than 8.3 can make extractions fail with this port. This is a patched version of GNU tar and uses the ASPI driver installed for the Trantor 358 device. I had no difficulties accessing my Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive either. All-in-all I am very happy with the device, however if the SCSI port on a device was very close to the desk top then there is a chance of the plug on the cable being too close the the desk and not letting the device lie flat on the table-top. This is because of the way the cable exits from the SCSI end of the Trantor cable. The cable has a 25 pin Centronics plug for the PC and a 50 Pin large Centronics style connector for the SCSI device. A 25 pin female socket also extends from the SCSI end of the cable to add your printer or other parallel device. I did have some initial problems with concurrent parallel device and SCSI operation but don't know if this was a configuration issue. I haven't had time to thoroughly sort this problem out or to read the docs properly. The cable isn't overly long, probably about 2 thirds of a meter (two feet) which isn't really long enough. Oh yes, I very occasionally got errors initializing the scanner from my DOS based OCR software or from windows applications. Re-trying seemed to fix this second time round. This problem did not seem to cause any other conflicts. I suspend that it is a send not a receive problem that is affected by the CPU speed of the Thinkpad. No specific drivers are available for Windows from what I can tell, however running windows after booting with the drivers loaded appears to give full access to all the SCSI facilities. The ASPI scanner driver looks identical to the card-based scanner drivers HP provided but works over the Trantor adaptor instead of the SCSI card shipped with the HP scanners. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 7 01:12:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20694 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 May 1994 01:12:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02367; Sat, 7 May 1994 01:52:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 May 1994 01:52:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02360; Sat, 7 May 1994 01:52:23 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA16858 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 7 May 1994 00:52:05 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405070552.AA16858@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Another though on 3Com PCMCIA To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 00:52:04 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405061800.LAA12464@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at May 6, 94 11:00:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > The good news is that I have never had to that with the 3Com card. > I can suspend and wake-up with impunity and never have to re-plug the card. > I presume this has to do with the fact that it bypasses card services and > "talks" directly to the port (don't ask me how, but 3Com has it figured out). This also applies to hibernation? I've never had a problem with suspend, just hibernation mode. The thing that bypasses card services would probably be classified as an enabler... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 7 01:12:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20694 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 May 1994 01:12:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02367; Sat, 7 May 1994 01:52:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 May 1994 01:52:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id BAA02360; Sat, 7 May 1994 01:52:23 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA16858 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 7 May 1994 00:52:05 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405070552.AA16858@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Another though on 3Com PCMCIA To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 00:52:04 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405061800.LAA12464@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at May 6, 94 11:00:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > The good news is that I have never had to that with the 3Com card. > I can suspend and wake-up with impunity and never have to re-plug the card. > I presume this has to do with the fact that it bypasses card services and > "talks" directly to the port (don't ask me how, but 3Com has it figured out). This also applies to hibernation? I've never had a problem with suspend, just hibernation mode. The thing that bypasses card services would probably be classified as an enabler... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 7 06:18:01 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00569 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 May 1994 06:17:58 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA27007; Sat, 7 May 1994 06:53:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 May 1994 06:53:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mercury.king.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id GAA27000; Sat, 7 May 1994 06:53:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199405071053.GAA27000@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from ceres.kingston.ac.uk by mercury.kingston.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <07619-0@mercury.kingston.ac.uk>; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:54:10 +0100 Received: from kingston.ac.uk by ceres.kingston.ac.uk id <15876-0@ceres.kingston.ac.uk>; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:54:07 +0100 From: Sergio Terenas Subject: 750 EPP - Have I got one ? / Sparco Email ? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: MMDF/Ream v4.16b Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 11:54:07 +0100 Sender: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk Status: OR Hi, I was just reading a message from someone on the list that says that all tp750s have an Enhanced Parallel Port. My brother's tp500 has a driver to support EPP. My tp750 hasn't. I didn't find any information on the manuals regarding EPP. I have a tp750 Mono bought in the UK. How can I be sure of having a EPP ? Also, I'd like to know if Sparco is on this list. I've some questions about getting a fax/modem from the States. Greetings, Sergio From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 7 10:41:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27424 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 May 1994 10:41:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA12943; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:23:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:23:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA12936; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:23:47 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA20247; Sat, 7 May 1994 08:23:44 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA07000; Sat, 7 May 1994 08:23:41 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405071523.IAA07000@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 750 EPP - Have I got one ? To: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk (Sergio Terenas) Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 08:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199405071053.GAA27000@CS.UTK.EDU> from "Sergio Terenas" at May 7, 94 11:54:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I was just reading a message from someone on the list that says that all > tp750s have an Enhanced Parallel Port. My brother's tp500 has a driver > to support EPP. My tp750 hasn't. I didn't find any information on the > manuals regarding EPP. I have a tp750 Mono bought in the UK. How can I > be sure of having a EPP ? Speaking of which--someone on this list pointed out that you had to do something in the BIOS to enable the Enhanced Parallel Port--whoever it was, could you please post more details? ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 7 10:41:41 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27519 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 May 1994 10:41:38 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA12800; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:21:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:21:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id LAA12793; Sat, 7 May 1994 11:21:43 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA20211; Sat, 7 May 1994 08:21:41 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA06940; Sat, 7 May 1994 08:21:38 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405071521.IAA06940@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Another though on 3Com PCMCIA To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 08:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199405070552.AA16858@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> from "Sean Chou" at May 7, 94 00:52:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > > The good news is that I have never had to that with the 3Com card. > > I can suspend and wake-up with impunity and never have to re-plug the card. > > I presume this has to do with the fact that it bypasses card services and > > "talks" directly to the port (don't ask me how, but 3Com has it figured out).> > This also applies to hibernation? I've never had a problem with suspend, > just hibernation mode. Well, per your comment here, I went and tried it on my TP (which, by the way, since I discovered from this list that suspend was so efficient, I never bother with hibernation anymore!) and the verdict is.... BUZZZZZZ! *If* I could get it to hibernate at all (sometimes it just refuses!), it worked--then when "waking up", it froze. Now this *could* be a Windows for Workgroups software problem, but it could also be the 3Com card--I don't know for sure, since I can't separate the two (the 3Com card would have to be in there to connect with the networking capability in Workgroups--I do not that it hibernates just fine in stand-alone mode though). Alas--no joy. > The thing that bypasses card services would > probably be classified as an enabler... That's precisly what it is called! ;) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 7 22:38:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26162 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 7 May 1994 22:38:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA21583; Sat, 7 May 1994 23:18:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 7 May 1994 23:18:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id XAA21576; Sat, 7 May 1994 23:18:28 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA22765 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 7 May 1994 22:18:09 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405080318.AA22765@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: 750 EPP - Have I got one ? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 22:18:09 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405071523.IAA07000@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at May 7, 94 08:23:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Speaking of which--someone on this list pointed out that you > had to do something in the BIOS to enable the Enhanced Parallel Port--whoever > it was, could you please post more details? You have to set the parallel port to LPT2 in the EasySetup BIOS config. I don't know why...otherwise, it acts as a uni or bi- directional parallel port. From whittle@chaph.usc.edu Sun May 8 15:39:27 1994 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11478 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 8 May 1994 15:39:17 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA04099; Sun, 8 May 1994 10:40:25 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA09021; Sun, 8 May 1994 10:40:24 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405081740.KAA09021@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 750 EPP - Have I got one ? To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 10:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199405080318.AA22765@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> from "Sean Chou" at May 7, 94 10:18:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 980 Status: OR > > > Speaking of which--someone on this list pointed out that you > > had to do something in the BIOS to enable the Enhanced Parallel Port--whoev> > it was, could you please post more details? > > You have to set the parallel port to LPT2 in the EasySetup BIOS > config. I don't know why...otherwise, it acts as a uni or bi- > directional parallel port. Let me get this straight: Setting the parallel port to LPT2 automatically "activates" the Enhanced Parallel Port capabilities? Another question though: Where/what applications will this EPP's capabilities come in handy? I'm not certain of the benefits in real-world application. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 9 07:35:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12230 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 May 1994 07:35:29 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA21299; Mon, 9 May 1994 08:07:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 May 1994 08:07:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tiamat.umd.umich.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA21292; Mon, 9 May 1994 08:07:14 -0400 Received: by tiamat.umd.umich.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05210; Mon, 9 May 94 08:06:11 EDT X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 08:09:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Adam Wilkinson" Sender: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Reply-To: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Message-Id: <29366.adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu> To: Subject: Fw: Re: 750 EPP - Have I got one ? Status: OR > > > Speaking of which--someone on this list pointed out that you > > had to do something in the BIOS to enable the Enhanced Parallel Port--whoev> > it was, could you please post more details? > > You have to set the parallel port to LPT2 in the EasySetup BIOS > config. I don't know why...otherwise, it acts as a uni or bi- > directional parallel port. Let me get this straight: Setting the parallel port to LPT2 automatically "activates" the Enhanced Parallel Port capabilities? Another question though: Where/what applications will this EPP's capabilities come in handy? I'm not certain of the benefits in real-world application. No, setting the BIOS to PARALLEL_2 merely configures the hardware so it will function as an EPP. The port is STILL LPT1:, but now has a different address. The default parallel port address used by the 750 (0x3BC ?) doe snot conform to the EPP specification. Setting the port to PARALLEL_2 changes the address to 0x378, which is acceptable. To make use of EPP, you must have a device that is capable of using it, and you must use a driver to activate the support. Parallel port LAN adapters are the most common EPP devices (Xircom and Zenith did the original development on EPP for this purpose), but you may find other devices, such as SCSI adpapters, thatcan use it as well. As for the driver, it is usually called EPP.COM or EPP.SYS, and will usually be bundled with any EPP-compliant peripheral, not the computer. Some peripheral software now ships with the EPP drivers as part of the software, as opposed to stand-alone drivers. Adam Wilkinson adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu | "The first time it's research. the second usfmcltc@ibmmail.com | time is just engineering!" - Cliff Stoll Compuserve: 75470,71 | (author of "The Cuckoo's Egg" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 9 07:37:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12417 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 May 1994 07:37:42 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA21290; Mon, 9 May 1994 08:07:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 May 1994 08:07:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tiamat.umd.umich.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id IAA21283; Mon, 9 May 1994 08:07:06 -0400 Received: by tiamat.umd.umich.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05207; Mon, 9 May 94 08:06:03 EDT X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 08:09:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Adam Wilkinson" Sender: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Reply-To: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Message-Id: <29360.adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu> To: Subject: Fw: Status: OR Recently, I would like to purchase a TP750. But, I heard about the TP755 will be released. When? If anybody knows about that, please e-mail to me. I don't want to spend about $5500 to get an old model! Thanx in advance! IBM is likely to annouce the week, but product may not be available until sometime in June. Adam Wilkinson adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu | "The first time it's research. the second usfmcltc@ibmmail.com | time is just engineering!" - Cliff Stoll Compuserve: 75470,71 | (author of "The Cuckoo's Egg" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 9 12:27:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09055 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 May 1994 12:27:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA02816; Mon, 9 May 1994 12:43:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 May 1994 12:43:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA02809; Mon, 9 May 1994 12:43:30 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA22421; Mon, 9 May 1994 09:43:21 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id JAA11795; Mon, 9 May 1994 09:43:14 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405091643.JAA11795@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: 750 EPP - Have I got one ? To: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 09:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <29366.adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu> from "Adam Wilkinson" at May 9, 94 08:09:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > No, setting the BIOS to PARALLEL_2 merely configures the hardware so it will > function as an EPP. The port is STILL LPT1:, but now has a different > address. The default parallel port address used by the 750 (0x3BC ?) doe > snot conform to the EPP specification. Setting the port to PARALLEL_2 > changes the address to 0x378, which is acceptable. > > To make use of EPP, you must have a device that is capable of using it, and > you must use a driver to activate the support. Parallel port LAN adapters Thank you for the clarification, Adam! Just so that I don't have to worry about setting it in the future if/when I should get such a device, would there be any incompatibility in setting the Parallell port to PARALLEL_2 in the BIOS now, even though I may not be using the EPP features (which would of course, require a driver)? I presume I could still print to a printer with it, etc.? ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 9 13:43:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10298 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 May 1994 13:43:28 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA12595; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:11:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:11:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from oz.geology.washington.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA12559; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:11:50 -0400 Received: by oz.geology.washington.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA25461; Mon, 9 May 94 10:58:40 PDT Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 10:47:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor C. Kress" Subject: Re: Another though on 3Com PCMCIA To: Randal Whittle Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199405061800.LAA12464@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Fri, 6 May 1994, Randal Whittle wrote: > > On another thought--I have a question for those of you who got the > 3Com "Combo" PCMCIA card: Does it have 2 different "tails"--one for > 10BaseT and one for 10Base2, or what exactly? I am considering getting > the combo card for flexibility purposes and returning the 10BaseT only card, > but I do not want to have to deal with a big, floppy 10Base2 combination > tail when I need only 10BaseT. If I can "choose" the tail I need for the > type of network I'm on, I'm willing to spend the extra $30 for the flexibility. > > Comments, please? The combo card has two "pigtails", one for 10bt and one for 10b2. The card automaticly senses which is hooked up (I've used both interchagably with no setup required). The specs say that the 10bt consumes 110mA while the 10b2 uses 430. -Victor Kress From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 9 14:04:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20273 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 May 1994 14:04:24 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA16031; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:37:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:37:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA16020; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:37:41 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA29211; Mon, 9 May 1994 11:37:37 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA22160; Mon, 9 May 1994 11:37:33 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405091837.LAA22160@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Another though on 3Com PCMCIA To: kress@oz.geology.washington.edu (Victor C. Kress) Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 11:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Victor C. Kress" at May 9, 94 10:47:37 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > On another thought--I have a question for those of you who got the > > 3Com "Combo" PCMCIA card: Does it have 2 different "tails"--one for > The combo card has two "pigtails", one for 10bt and one for 10b2. The > card automaticly senses which is hooked up (I've used both interchagably Thanks! So are you saying that one need not change the setup, if switching tails? I've noticed that my card says "for 10BaseT and Coax" on it, so I presume I need only to purchase the additional tail. > with no setup required). The specs say that the 10bt consumes 110mA while > the 10b2 uses 430. 430 mA? Wow--that's a lot more than twisted pair! ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 9 14:12:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23201 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 9 May 1994 14:12:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA17362; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:46:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:45:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from oz.geology.washington.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id OAA17341; Mon, 9 May 1994 14:45:54 -0400 Received: by oz.geology.washington.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA25496; Mon, 9 May 94 11:32:47 PDT Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 11:30:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor C. Kress" Subject: Re: Another though on 3Com PCMCIA To: Randal Whittle Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199405091837.LAA22160@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Mon, 9 May 1994, Randal Whittle wrote: > > > On another thought--I have a question for those of you who got the > > > 3Com "Combo" PCMCIA card: Does it have 2 different "tails"--one for > > > The combo card has two "pigtails", one for 10bt and one for 10b2. The > > card automaticly senses which is hooked up (I've used both interchagably > > Thanks! So are you saying that one need not change the setup, if > switching tails? > Just plug it in and use it. -Victor Kress From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 10 12:01:38 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13608 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 10 May 1994 12:01:36 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA05097; Tue, 10 May 1994 12:27:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 10 May 1994 12:27:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id MAA05088; Tue, 10 May 1994 12:27:30 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA02292 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 10 May 1994 11:27:07 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405101627.AA02292@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: TP750 EPP To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 11:27:06 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405081740.KAA09021@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at May 8, 94 10:40:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Let me get this straight: Setting the parallel port to LPT2 > automatically "activates" the Enhanced Parallel Port capabilities? Yup. From what I gather anyway...and from what I gleaned off of the CompuServe messages. > Another question though: Where/what applications will this EPP's > capabilities come in handy? I'm not certain of the benefits in real-world > application. Well, EPP doesn't come in handy unless you have some sort of high throughput device on the parallel. For example, if you are using LapLink, you can reach speeds of at least 1mb/s transfer rates using the EPP. Also, the throughput is much higher so that while a quadruple speed CD-ROM would exceed a regular parallel port or a bidirectional parallel port's throughput, it doesn't come near to the EPP. The Trantor EPP's thoughput is 1mb/s. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 10 16:12:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21563 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 10 May 1994 16:12:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA05631; Tue, 10 May 1994 16:47:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 10 May 1994 16:47:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id QAA05624; Tue, 10 May 1994 16:47:10 -0400 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwpih12666; Tue, 10 May 94 16:46:57 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14547; Tue, 10 May 94 13:42:04 PDT Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA20438; Tue, 10 May 94 13:47:07 PDT Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17507; Tue, 10 May 94 13:45:02 PDT Date: Tue, 10 May 94 13:45:02 PDT From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9405102045.AA17507@opus.objy.com> To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: TP750 EPP Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR > Well, EPP doesn't come in handy unless you have some sort of high > throughput device on the parallel. For example, if you are using > LapLink, you can reach speeds of at least 1mb/s transfer rates using > the EPP. Also, the throughput is much higher so that while a > quadruple speed CD-ROM would exceed a regular parallel port or a > bidirectional parallel port's throughput, it doesn't come near to > the EPP. The Trantor EPP's thoughput is 1mb/s. I keep telling myself I'm going to purchase laplink but haven't gotten around to it yet. (Any testimonials?) I assume the 1mb/s transfer rate is only possible if you have EPP ports on both ends of the link, right? I would think a plain unidirectional parallel port on either end would constrain throughput to the speed of that device. --Bruce From lenj@oes.amdahl.com Tue May 10 16:16:10 1994 Received: from amdahl.com by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23223 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 10 May 1994 16:16:07 -0500 Received: by amdahl.com (/\==/\ Smail #25.33) id ; Tue, 10 May 94 14:16 PDT Received: by cessna.oes.amdahl.com (5.0/SMI-4.1/DNS) id AA00893; Tue, 10 May 1994 14:16:06 +0800 Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 14:16:06 +0800 From: lenj@oes.amdahl.com (Len Jacobson) Message-Id: <9405102116.AA00893@cessna.oes.amdahl.com> To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, bruce@objy.com Subject: Re: TP750 EPP Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 1406 Status: OR > I keep telling myself I'm going to purchase laplink but haven't > gotten around to it yet. (Any testimonials?) I assume the 1mb/s ***************** ***************** > transfer rate is only possible if you have EPP ports on both ends > of the link, right? I would think a plain unidirectional parallel port > on either end would constrain throughput to the speed of that device. > > --Bruce > I have been using LapLink V for a few months now. I use it to synchronize my desktop with the laptop. It took quite a while and lots of phone calls to the LapLink people and to IBM Help people until I found the right formula. My problem was that the communication line between the two computers would die in the middle of transmission (and the frustrating thing was that there was no easy way to automatically pick up where it left off -- so it meant starting from fresh). Bottom line -- I have found consistently good results ONLY when I use a serial link between the two (parallel, though faster, would not work consis- tently). It runs at 115,200 baud. IMPORTANT: The TP750 MUST be brought up withOUT any of the TSRs running. So I do the most minimal boot of the laptop that I can. Given that, the product works fine for me and does what I need. If you want more specifics, please email me. Len Jacobson From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 11 08:27:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10603 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 11 May 1994 08:27:56 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA25135; Wed, 11 May 1994 09:06:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 11 May 1994 09:06:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ion.apana.org.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.8s-UTK) id JAA24993; Wed, 11 May 1994 09:06:14 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 11 May 94 23:09 EST From: timn@ion.apana.org.au (Tim Noonan) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Crashes with MKS VI for DOS with Tolkit version 4.1 Status: OR Is anyone else using the DOS version of MKS VI supplied with version 4.1 of the MKS Toolkit for DOS? ex works very reliably, but when I switch to vi I often get crashes after a short period of time. Maybe this is like the cursor problem in WordPerfect? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks Tim From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 12 01:37:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11234 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 12 May 1994 01:37:14 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26379; Thu, 12 May 1994 02:18:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 12 May 1994 02:18:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26366; Thu, 12 May 1994 02:18:26 -0400 Received: from news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.4.2]) by fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.6) id ; Thu, 12 May 1994 00:15:04 -0600 Received: by news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (1.2; from uucp@localhost) id ; Thu, 12 May 1994 00:15:26 -0600 Received: from nucleus.UUCP by dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca (4.1/Cuc2.2) id AA13605; Wed, 11 May 94 19:06:51 MDT Message-Id: <9405120106.AA13605@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca> Received: by nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (1.64/waf) via UUCP; Wed, 11 May 94 19:00:27 MDT for tp750@cs.utk.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Tim Kary) Subject: Re-Introduction to the List Date: Wed, 11 May 94 17:17:24 MST Organization: Atomic Data Communications X-Maildoor: MajorMAIL V1.61 Status: OR Hi all! Due to a transition to a new domain name my e-mail was interrupted for nearly three weeks. Prior to that I had been with the list for a couple of months. I know I had a couple of dialogs in motion at the time of interruption and invite those involved to contact me so that we can pick up where we left off. By way of re-introduction, I own a TP750 Cs, with 8M of RAM, 170M HDD, Megahertz XJ1144 fax/modem, external keyboard connection. I am operating MS-DOS 6.2 with Windows 3.1. I originally had a problem with application memory(lack of), but through previous help from list members, that has been rectified - I now have 605K + 13K of upper memory available! Tim Kary ---------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Kary twkary@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca 403-262-7021 403-262-1392(FAX) T.Kary@genie.geis.com Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 12 20:30:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27226 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 12 May 1994 20:30:32 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13456; Thu, 12 May 1994 21:04:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 12 May 1994 21:04:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from namaste.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13449; Thu, 12 May 1994 21:04:16 -0400 Received: by namaste.cc.columbia.edu id AA17593 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 12 May 1994 21:04:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 21:04:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andrew M. Benkard" Subject: Modem standoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hi all. I'm torn between the MHz XJ1144 and the USR WorldPort. Roughly the same price. MHz has a better jack (I hear), but I have had good experience with USRobotics. Which should I buy? Thanks/ Andrew From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 12 21:30:52 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18850 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 12 May 1994 21:30:50 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16472; Thu, 12 May 1994 22:11:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 12 May 1994 22:11:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from u.cc.utah.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16465; Thu, 12 May 1994 22:11:51 -0400 Received: (from pawcamp@localhost) by u.cc.utah.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA01655; Thu, 12 May 1994 20:11:16 -0600 Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 20:10:42 -0600 (MDT) From: "Paul W. Campbell" Subject: Re: Modem standoff To: "Andrew M. Benkard" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Thu, 12 May 1994, Andrew M. Benkard wrote: > > Hi all. I'm torn between the MHz XJ1144 and the USR WorldPort. > Roughly the same price. MHz has a better jack (I hear), but I have had > good experience with USRobotics. Which should I buy? It's not that I'm biased, BUT, I'd say buy the MHZ PCMCIA modems.... pc Paul W. Campbell Megahertz Corporation pawcamp@u.cc.utah.edu 605 N 5600 W, M/S 2108 pwc@pine.cse.nau.edu Salt Lake City, UT 84116 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 13 02:28:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06279 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 13 May 1994 02:28:57 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10051; Fri, 13 May 1994 03:13:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 13 May 1994 03:13:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10044; Fri, 13 May 1994 03:13:51 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id AAA25285; Fri, 13 May 1994 00:13:46 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 00:13:46 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199405130713.AAA25285@netcom.com> To: amb65@columbia.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Modem standoff Status: OR I would advice the Megahertz. It has no stoopid dongle to forget. I am a little biased as it supports the thinkpad extextremelly well ESP under OS/2 my os of choice. Martin Smith msmith@netcom.com :wq From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 13 21:00:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25771 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 13 May 1994 21:00:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23208; Fri, 13 May 1994 21:32:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 13 May 1994 21:32:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23104; Fri, 13 May 1994 21:32:26 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02148; Fri, 13 May 1994 18:29:25 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 06:33:08 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <23588.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: timn@ion.apana.org.au, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Review of Trantor 358 Parallet to SCSI adapter Status: OR In message Sat, 7 May 94 13:45 EST, timn@ion.apana.org.au (Tim Noonan) writes: > This is a very rough review of the Trantor 358 Parallel to SCSI adapter > used on the ThinkPad 750 (mono) machine. Thanks for the review. I'm thinking of getting one now (vs. buying a 500MB 2.5" Tosiba hard drive for $650 and hoping it works). > I haven't tried it under OS/2 but there is an OS/2 and winnt directory > on the drivers disk. Does this mean you will try it under OS/2? Inquiring minds want to know... > The cable has a 25 pin Centronics plug for the PC and a 50 Pin large > Centronics style connector for the SCSI device. A 25 pin female socket > also extends from the SCSI end of the cable to add your printer or other > parallel device. The cable does the parallel/SCSI conversion? Or is there some sort of device in the middle or at one end? > The cable isn't overly long, probably about 2 thirds of a meter (two > feet) which isn't really long enough. SCSI cables aren't supposed to be much longer than this. Besides, 25-wire cables can get expensive. :) Any problems after going into and out of suspend/hibernate? Does the cable block access to the adjacent video and serial ports? Do you have a SCSI hard drive so you can run some real throughput tests? Thanks. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 15 00:03:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09352 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 15 May 1994 00:03:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07122; Sun, 15 May 1994 00:37:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 15 May 1994 00:37:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ion.apana.org.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06964; Sun, 15 May 1994 00:35:14 -0400 Message-Id: From: timn@ion.apana.org.au (Tim Noonan) Subject: Re: Review of Trantor 358 Parallet to SCSI adapter1 To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 14:37:03 +1000 (EST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <23588.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at May 13, 94 06:33:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Status: OR John Kim writes: > > In message Sat, 7 May 94 13:45 EST, timn@ion.apana.org.au (Tim Noonan) writes: > > > This is a very rough review of the Trantor 358 Parallel to SCSI adapter > > used on the ThinkPad 750 (mono) machine. > > Thanks for the review. I'm thinking of getting one now (vs. buying a 500MB > 2.5" Tosiba hard drive for $650 and hoping it works). > > > I haven't tried it under OS/2 but there is an OS/2 and winnt directory > > on the drivers disk. > > Does this mean you will try it under OS/2? Inquiring minds want to know... Well, it is possible, but I don't have OS/2 installed currently. It is not a high priority at the moment I'm sorry. If I do get OS/2 installed soon (for some other compatibility testing I want to do) I will try the Trantor also. > > > The cable has a 25 pin Centronics plug for the PC and a 50 Pin large > > Centronics style connector for the SCSI device. A 25 pin female socket > > also extends from the SCSI end of the cable to add your printer or other > > parallel device. > > The cable does the parallel/SCSI conversion? Or is there some sort of > device in the middle or at one end? Unlike the earlier Trantor 338 cable, the 358 is a single cable. One end has the 25 pin parallel plug on it, the other ends with the 50-pin SCSI plug. the 25-pin socket for a printer iextends back from the SCSI plug, but is fixed to the SCSI plug. That is to say it isn't aattached by an extra bit of cable. I imagine, but don't know, that the actual circuitry is in the SCSI end of the cable. > > The cable isn't overly long, probably about 2 thirds of a meter (two > > feet) which isn't really long enough. > > SCSI cables aren't supposed to be much longer than this. Besides, 25-wire > cables can get expensive. :) Yes, I agree, but an extra foot would still be in spec and would be useful in some configurations. > > Any problems after going into and out of suspend/hibernate? Ah, good question, it doesn't ring a bell - but will do some testing of this shortly and let you know. > > Does the cable block access to the adjacent video and serial ports? Serial and Video ports are both easily accessed. I've had both connected when the Trantor was connected with no hassles. > > Do you have a SCSI hard drive so you can run some real throughput tests? Not one that is easily accessible. I'll see what I can come up with here, but don't hold your breath. If it wasn't that I was in Australia I'd offer to let you test it out for yourself :-) > -- > John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like > jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole > This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" > Tim Noonan PGP Public key available: timn@ion.apana.org.au finger timn@ion.apana.org.au@yarrina.connect.com.au From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 15 09:51:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20464 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 15 May 1994 09:51:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09276; Sun, 15 May 1994 10:32:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 15 May 1994 10:32:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09267; Sun, 15 May 1994 10:31:59 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com ([153.113.1.1]) by dsd.northrop.com (4.1/Gatemaster-4.1) id AA10763; Sun, 15 May 94 09:41:37 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0q2h7R-0009b5C; Sun, 15 May 94 09:24 CDT Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0q2hFF-000BgyC; Sun, 15 May 94 09:32 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Monochrome 750 value To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 09:32:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I was thinking of selling my monochrome 750 with 170MB disk. My friends tell me that I should either keep the machine or give it to someone I care for as monochrome systems have little value on the used market. In fact, I was told that I was foolish to have spent as much as I did for a "overdone" machine, and should have purchased a cheaper monochrome or color machine. Comments? -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 15 10:36:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23455 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 15 May 1994 10:36:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13905; Sun, 15 May 1994 11:17:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 15 May 1994 11:17:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13897; Sun, 15 May 1994 11:17:11 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA00675; Sun, 15 May 94 11:17:02 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 May 94 11:17:02 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405151517.AA00675@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: strat@atfs0.dsd.northrop.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Monochrome 750 value Status: OR a cheaper monochrome machine would have been much less satisfactory if you find the Trackpoint-II attractive. To me no other notebook is usable for GUI-based systems, since all trackballs are impossible! In order to give some advice, you need to give us some idea of why you want to seel your current machine. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 15 11:20:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27259 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 15 May 1994 11:20:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18375; Sun, 15 May 1994 12:01:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 15 May 1994 12:00:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18365; Sun, 15 May 1994 12:00:57 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com ([153.113.1.1]) by dsd.northrop.com (4.1/Gatemaster-4.1) id AA10804; Sun, 15 May 94 11:10:36 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0q2iVY-0009b1C; Sun, 15 May 94 10:53 CDT Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0q2idN-000Bh3C; Sun, 15 May 94 11:01 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Monochrome 750 value To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 11:01:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR >a cheaper monochrome machine would have been much less satisfactory if >you find the Trackpoint-II attractive. To me no other notebook is usable >for GUI-based systems, since all trackballs are impossible! > >In order to give some advice, you need to give us some idea of why you >want to sell your current machine. The cost of purchasing a larger drive from IBM makes an upgrade not attractive. Even the cost of an after market driver is half way to the cost of a 750Cs with a 340MB drive, with respect to what I already spent on the mono machine. Thus the primary need is to move up to a larger drive. A secondary issue is color. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 15 12:20:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03435 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 15 May 1994 12:20:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23799; Sun, 15 May 1994 13:03:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 15 May 1994 13:03:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23792; Sun, 15 May 1994 13:03:20 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA00819; Sun, 15 May 94 13:03:13 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 May 94 13:03:13 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405151703.AA00819@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: strat@atfs0.dsd.northrop.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Monochrome 750 value Status: OR I think you can expect the cost of these drives to be going down all the time, you might do bvetter to just wait a while. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 16 13:49:39 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19850 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 May 1994 13:49:35 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15785; Mon, 16 May 1994 14:26:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 May 1994 14:26:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from oz.geology.washington.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15765; Mon, 16 May 1994 14:25:58 -0400 Received: by oz.geology.washington.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA01624; Mon, 16 May 94 11:12:23 PDT Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 10:36:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor C. Kress" Subject: Re: Monochrome 750 value To: Scott Stratmoen Cc: ThinkPad 750 Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Sun, 15 May 1994, Scott Stratmoen wrote: > > The cost of purchasing a larger drive from IBM makes an upgrade not > attractive. Even the cost of an after market driver is half way to the > cost of a 750Cs with a 340MB drive, with respect to what I already spent > on the mono machine. > > Thus the primary need is to move up to a larger drive. A secondary issue > is color. > -- > Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com > | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) I decided on a monochrome machine for the following reasons: 1. Anecdotal evidence suggests that the monochrome battery life is significantly greater than active matrix color. 2. Monochrome reliability is higher. 3. The money I saved getting the monochrome instead of color allowed me to get a faster machine with more memory, trackpoint, and a modem card. 4. 90% of the time, I use an external VGA-SVGA anyway. 5. color doesn't really matter much for most of the applications I use. I don't regret the monochrome at all. What I do regret is that I didn't first check out how outrageously priced the HD upgrades are. Had I considered this, several other machines I considered buying might have rated higher in my ranking. Wild proposal #3: We select a competent hardware guru from among the group. Those that are interested contribute a moderate sum of money for the purchase of an appropriate third party hard drive (I would think $20-$30 would do it if lots of people are interested). The guru attempts to install the drive in a tp750, carefully documenting his/her progress. If the installation succeeds, the guru gets a free HD upgrade, and the entire group gets upgrade documentation. If not, one of the group purchases the hardware at a discount from the rest of the group (or we lose our investment), and we know to stop holding our breath and spring for an external SCSI drive. There are many obvious potential problems (mostly related to trust) but some reader (probably a lawyer) might have a way to make it work. -Victor Kress From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 16 16:47:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19921 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 May 1994 16:47:44 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08132; Mon, 16 May 1994 17:26:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 May 1994 17:26:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from srlns1.srl.ford.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08119; Mon, 16 May 1994 17:26:49 -0400 Received: from ah1170.acg.ford.com (ah1170.acg.ford.com [19.48.81.170]) by srlns1.srl.ford.com (8.6.8/FordSRL 1.0) with SMTP id RAA03988 for ; Mon, 16 May 1994 17:26:17 -0400 Received: by ah1170.acg.ford.com (5.61/1.3U) id AA17240; Mon May 16 17:29:28 1994 From: lbrown4@ah1170.acg.ford.com (Les Brown ELD) Message-Id: <9405162129.AA17240@ah1170.acg.ford.com> Subject: 3c589 Ethernet Adapter To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 16 May 94 17:29:27 EDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: OR I am trying to get the 3c589 to work with autodrv. Has anybody had any luck? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 16 18:09:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11543 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 May 1994 18:09:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16294; Mon, 16 May 1994 18:49:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 May 1994 18:49:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16286; Mon, 16 May 1994 18:49:37 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com ([153.113.1.1]) by dsd.northrop.com (4.1/Gatemaster-4.1) id AA11558; Mon, 16 May 94 17:59:12 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0q3BMS-0009b1C; Mon, 16 May 94 17:42 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0q3BQS-00000GC; Mon, 16 May 94 17:46 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@bart.dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Monochrome 750 value To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 17:46:20 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Victor C. Kress" at May 16, 94 10:36:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Wild proposal #3: We select a competent hardware guru from among the > group. Those that are interested contribute a moderate sum of money for > the purchase of an appropriate third party hard drive (I would think > $20-$30 would do it if lots of people are interested). The guru attempts > to install the drive in a tp750, carefully documenting his/her progress. > If the installation succeeds, the guru gets a free HD upgrade, and the > entire group gets upgrade documentation. If not, one of the group > purchases the hardware at a discount from the rest of the group (or we > lose our investment), and we know to stop holding our breath and spring > for an external SCSI drive. There are many obvious potential problems > (mostly related to trust) but some reader (probably a lawyer) might have a > way to make it work. > > -Victor Kress > I have been toying with the idea of purchasing a 2 1/2" drive and giving the upgrade a try. The problem is that there are few firms selling "notebook" drives. I think that in general there are few people willing, or able, to perform an upgrade on a notebook. FYI, I am not looking for any money, but I go through with a drive upgrade the procedure will become public. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 16 21:04:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12716 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 May 1994 21:04:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04748; Mon, 16 May 1994 21:53:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 May 1994 21:53:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms.macc.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04741; Mon, 16 May 1994 21:53:34 -0400 Received: from VMSmail by vms.macc.wisc.edu; Mon, 16 May 94 20:53 CDT Message-Id: <24051620532553@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Date: Mon, 16 May 94 20:53 CDT From: Chris Schumann Subject: 15 second hang with pen system To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Status: OR If anyone else has joined the list with a 750P (who am I kidding?), You will have noticed that upon pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del under Windows (to which an IBM service rep said "Why would you want to do that?") brings up the blue (I think it's blue) screen, sits fifteen seconds, and then acts as if you pressed ENTER wether you did or not. I found this bug report on Microsoft Developer CD. It states that their EXAMPLE PEN DRIVER does this, and should be avoided on systems with a pen and keyboard, because just this problem will occur. Hmm. So I talked to IBM again today, and the guy in Level I support (the people you call, not the people who call you back) guy, who was actually more knowledgeable than some of his peers, had me fax him the article, and told me that all the device drivers are written in Japan, and that he would see that this info got to the correct party. So, when can I expect a new pen driver? chris From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 16 22:34:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29353 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 May 1994 22:34:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20023; Mon, 16 May 1994 23:17:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 16 May 1994 23:17:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20011; Mon, 16 May 1994 23:17:24 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA28277; Mon, 16 May 1994 20:17:20 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id UAA26362; Mon, 16 May 1994 20:17:18 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405170317.UAA26362@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 3c589 Ethernet Adapter To: lbrown4@ah1170.acg.ford.com (Les Brown ELD) Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 20:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9405162129.AA17240@ah1170.acg.ford.com> from "Les Brown ELD" at May 16, 94 05:29:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > I am trying to get the 3c589 to work with autodrv. Has anybody had > any luck? Once you configure properly (using the 3Com software), the card is enabled without use of the EZPlay/autodrive software. But you can usually still use it with the EZPlay software (assuming you need the EZPlay to run another card like a modem). If there is any conflict, check your 3Com diskette for a directory called "CS_HLP" or something like that. It has a driver that should help your 3Com card still work while Card Services is being used to work another PCMCIA card. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 16 23:35:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11074 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 16 May 1994 23:34:55 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26460; Tue, 17 May 1994 00:11:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 May 1994 00:11:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26452; Tue, 17 May 1994 00:11:54 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id AAA06863 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 17 May 1994 00:13:36 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E1B6AD; Mon, 16 May 94 22:22:26 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Portable Printer From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.400426.700.0CE1B6AD@channel1.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 94 22:20:00 -0400 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Status: OR Subject: Portable Printer I purchased a Citizen Notebook Printer II, am I disappointed in it!! My biggest gripe is that if you're using a paper with the slightest bit of texture, the printout resembles a page printed by an antique typewriter with bad keys!! Another problem is that the cartridge only lasts for about 20 full pages (word not graphics). Anyone have any recommendations on portable printing? I noticed IBM has a printer similar to the Citizen....anyone have one? Thanks, Joseph Pereira joseph.pereira@channel1.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 17 07:09:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00536 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 17 May 1994 07:09:07 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16630; Tue, 17 May 1994 07:47:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 May 1994 07:47:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gwis.circ.gwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16623; Tue, 17 May 1994 07:47:30 -0400 Received: (halinatr@localhost) by gwis.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.5) id HAA06192; Tue, 17 May 1994 07:47:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 07:40:49 -0400 (EDT) From: darren mccabe Subject: Re: Monochrome 750 value To: "Victor C. Kress" Cc: Scott Stratmoen , ThinkPad 750 Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Ya know, it sounds crazy, so crazy that IT JUST MIGHT WORK! If said guru was competent and the hard drive was priced right, I'd throw in to get some decent documentation! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Darren Patrick McCabe "Hal" | Mail: Halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu On Mon, 16 May 1994, Victor C. Kress wrote: > Wild proposal #3: We select a competent hardware guru from among the > group. Those that are interested contribute a moderate sum of money for > the purchase of an appropriate third party hard drive (I would think > $20-$30 would do it if lots of people are interested). The guru attempts > to install the drive in a tp750, carefully documenting his/her progress. > If the installation succeeds, the guru gets a free HD upgrade, and the > entire group gets upgrade documentation. If not, one of the group > purchases the hardware at a discount from the rest of the group (or we > lose our investment), and we know to stop holding our breath and spring > for an external SCSI drive. There are many obvious potential problems > (mostly related to trust) but some reader (probably a lawyer) might have a > way to make it work. > > -Victor Kress > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 17 07:58:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03217 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 17 May 1994 07:58:43 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22114; Tue, 17 May 1994 08:37:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 May 1994 08:37:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mercury.king.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22106; Tue, 17 May 1994 08:37:44 -0400 Message-Id: <199405171237.IAA22106@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from ceres.kingston.ac.uk by mercury.kingston.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <09685-0@mercury.kingston.ac.uk>; Tue, 17 May 1994 13:37:45 +0100 Received: from kingston.ac.uk by ceres.kingston.ac.uk id <03580-0@ceres.kingston.ac.uk>; Tue, 17 May 1994 13:37:17 +0100 From: Sergio Terenas Subject: Sound on 750 - a nice program To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: MMDF/Ream v4.16b Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 13:37:17 +0100 Sender: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk Status: OR Just thought you might want to know. There's a program on wuarchive.wustl.edu on the sounds directory for windows called mod4win.zip that plays .MOD files on the tp750. It sound nice and you can run other applications while listening to your own favourite themes. It's a nice way of using the Hi-fi speaker of the 750. By the way has anyone got more info on how to program the speaker ? Anyone using a different music player for the 750 ? Note: I'm just a happy unregistered user of mod4win. The shareware version is a bit annoying since it has some notices for registration... Greetings, Sergio Terenas From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 17 13:48:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23113 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 17 May 1994 13:48:02 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29766; Tue, 17 May 1994 14:19:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 17 May 1994 14:19:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29726; Tue, 17 May 1994 14:19:31 -0400 Received: from FirstPerson.COM (rampart.EBay.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA16418; Tue, 17 May 94 11:19:02 PDT Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by FirstPerson.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14295; Tue, 17 May 94 11:17:06 PDT Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12938; Tue, 17 May 1994 11:16:42 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27024; Tue, 17 May 1994 11:18:46 +0800 Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 11:18:46 +0800 From: Chuck.McManis@firstperson.com (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9405171818.AA27024@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, joseph.pereira@channel1.com Subject: Re: Portable Printer X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: OR >>Anyone have any recommendations on portable printing? >I noticed IBM has a printer similar to the Citizen....anyone have one? Last year when I was travelling a lot I just used my FAX modem for printing. Every hotel I stayed in had a FAX machine and the software that came with the MegaHertz modem let me configure it as a printer in windows. So when ever I needed to print something out I would just fax it to myself at the front desk. They would take it off the fax and bring it up to my room. Quite convienient. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 18 00:30:53 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14449 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 May 1994 00:30:50 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08655; Wed, 18 May 1994 01:10:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 May 1994 01:10:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08638; Wed, 18 May 1994 01:10:05 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA21969; Tue, 17 May 1994 22:06:56 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 10:10:40 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <36641.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: kress@oz.geology.washington.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Monochrome 750 value Status: OR In message Mon, 16 May 1994 10:36:48 -0700 (PDT), "Victor C. Kress" writes: > Wild proposal #3: We select a competent hardware guru from among the > group. Those that are interested contribute a moderate sum of money for > the purchase of an appropriate third party hard drive (I would think > $20-$30 would do it if lots of people are interested). The guru attempts > to install the drive in a tp750, carefully documenting his/her progress. Actually, I'm about halfway through this process so far. I've gotten verification from IBM that there's nothing weird about their HD controller - if the drive responds properly to the IDE identify commands (heads, sectors, cylinders, etc) it should work with the TP750. I've called Toshiba about some of the 2.5" drives they make and gotten some specs like dimensions and power (to make sure it doesn't blow the TP750's fuse, which IBM says will void the warranty - I thought fuses were there so you wouldn't damage the hardware?). If anybody has model numbers and phone numbers for other 2.5" hard drives and manufacturers (and some place that sells them), I'll check those too. Right now I'm waiting for IBM to give me specs on their drives, as well as the peak current a drive can draw before blowing the fuse. > If the installation succeeds, the guru gets a free HD upgrade, and the > entire group gets upgrade documentation. Hey, do I get a free drive if I figure out it works on my own? :) Somebody else has on this list has a 250 MB Maxtor(?) in their TP750. Toshiba hasn't tested their drives in the TP750 (although they've had reports of their drives working in Thinkpads). Also, I found out the 520 megger is a 19mm drive, while measuring the IBM hard drive case suggests it will only take a 12mm drive. :( -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 18 02:35:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27239 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 May 1994 02:35:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21101; Wed, 18 May 1994 03:15:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 May 1994 03:15:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21087; Wed, 18 May 1994 03:15:26 -0400 Received: from pc161.sv-fak.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP) id <29018-0@alf.uib.no>; Wed, 18 May 1994 09:15:14 +0200 X-Nupop-Charset: Norwegian/Danish Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 09:12:05 +0100 (CET) From: Thor Oivind Jensen Sender: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Message-Id: <33129.soatj@alf.uib.no> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Charging problems Status: OR I finally gave in and bought the too exepensive TP 750C. 90% is functioning perfect, but one problem has occured: *Most of the time (but not always) charging is not possible while using the machine. It tells "charging" but will stand still on the same % no matter how long you try or how hard you run the machine. The battery light will also shift to oranga, no matter how much juice you have left. The first few times and once in a while everything is OK. Any ideas ?? Thor \ivind Jensen Institutt for administrasjon og organisasjonsvitenskap Christiesgt 17 N-5007 BERGEN, Norway ++47 5 212153 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 18 08:41:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00463 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 May 1994 08:41:18 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04387; Wed, 18 May 1994 09:20:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 18 May 1994 09:20:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tiamat.umd.umich.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04370; Wed, 18 May 1994 09:20:29 -0400 Received: by tiamat.umd.umich.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15627; Wed, 18 May 94 09:19:22 EDT X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 09:22:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Adam Wilkinson" Sender: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Reply-To: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Message-Id: <33747.adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu> To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no, Subject: RE: Charging problems Status: OR In message Wed, 18 May 1994 09:12:05 +0100 (CET), Thor Oivind Jensen writes: > I finally gave in and bought the too exepensive TP 750C. 90% is > functioning perfect, but one problem has occured: > > *Most of the time (but not always) charging is not possible while using > the machine. It tells "charging" but will stand still on the same % no > matter how long you try or how hard you run the machine. The battery > light will also shift to oranga, no matter how much juice you have left. > > The first few times and once in a while everything is OK. > > Any ideas ?? > Thor !ivind Jensen > Institutt for administrasjon og organisasjonsvitenskap > Christiesgt 17 N-5007 BERGEN, Norway > ++47 5 212153 > Thor, It sounds like you may have a hardware problem. Call for service or see your dealer. Adam Wilkinson adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu | "The first time it's research. the second usfmcltc@ibmmail.com | time is just engineering!" - Cliff Stoll Compuserve: 75470,71 | (author of "The Cuckoo's Egg" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 02:01:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29263 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 02:01:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14726; Thu, 19 May 1994 02:46:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 02:46:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA14686; Thu, 19 May 1994 02:46:24 -0400 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id JAA15746 for ; Thu, 19 May 1994 09:46:22 +0300 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id JAA15600 for ; Thu, 19 May 1994 09:46:16 +0300 Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 09:46:16 +0300 Message-Id: <199405190646.JAA15600@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: TP360 vs. TP750 X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi! Ii talked to my sales rep. yesterday and he had some release info on the new thinkpads. The DIFFERENCES to a TP750 that I was able to identify were: 360 755 Processor DX33/nomath DX2/50 or DX4/75 (actually their SL enh. variants) Sound Optional built-in mic Display (9.5"-mono) (N/A) (9.5"-Cs 9.5"-Cs) 8.4"-C 10.4"-C Video graphics accelerator Max Mem 36M Disks 170,340,540&810M I'm especially interested in the differences between a TP750-mono and the new 360-mono. I'd buy a TP750-mono, but it is discontinued. I think I'll go for a 360-mono since a mono-LCD is what I wan't. I'd also planned to buy a number of TP750Cs models for my colleques. There I have two options a TP360Cs and a TP755 Cs. Any opinions or differences not listed above. Your comments (and new indormation) are appreciated! Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University DataCity FIN-20520 Turku From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 06:21:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24608 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 06:20:56 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA21770; Thu, 19 May 1994 06:52:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 06:52:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA21763; Thu, 19 May 1994 06:52:05 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA04528; Thu, 19 May 94 06:51:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 May 94 06:51:43 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405191051.AA04528@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP360 vs. TP750 Status: OR Two interesting questions for TP750 owners will we be able to upgrade to the new 540 and/or 810 meg hard disks? will we be able to upgrade to 36 megs memory (i.e. is this done with a compatible 32 meg card)? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 11:16:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06140 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 11:16:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28711; Thu, 19 May 1994 11:56:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 11:56:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28702; Thu, 19 May 1994 11:56:40 -0400 Received: from mongrel (MONGREL.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA23508; Thu, 19 May 94 10:51:19 CDT Date: Thu, 19 May 94 10:51:19 CDT Message-Id: <9405191551.AA23508@austin.wireline.slb.com> X-Sender: byrne@pigpen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Subject: 32 mbytes of memory for the 750 X-Mailer: Status: OR Good news! It appears that the 750 will support a 32 mbyte card! I just received a 16 mbyte card from Kingston. Inside the box is a letter and parts list which includes a 32 mbyte part: Kingston P/N IBM P/N Description KTM-750/32 A1987A 32MB Memory Upgrade Module The letter specifically says that the memory is for the 750/750C and that system memory can be expanded to a max of 36MB. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 11:44:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13145 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 11:44:17 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00924; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:13:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:13:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00907; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:13:51 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA08343; Thu, 19 May 94 12:13:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 May 94 12:13:28 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405191613.AA08343@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 32 mbytes of memory for the 750 Status: OR what are current Kingston prices for 16M and 32M From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 12:02:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17925 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 12:02:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03775; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:35:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:35:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03750; Thu, 19 May 1994 12:35:27 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA07399; Thu, 19 May 1994 09:35:12 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id JAA18126; Thu, 19 May 1994 09:35:01 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405191635.JAA18126@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 32 mbytes of memory for the 750 To: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 09:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9405191551.AA23508@austin.wireline.slb.com> from "Wes Byrne" at May 19, 94 10:51:19 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > Good news! It appears that the 750 will support a 32 mbyte card! I just > received a 16 mbyte card from Kingston. Inside the box is a letter and parts > list which includes a 32 mbyte part: > > Kingston P/N IBM P/N Description > > KTM-750/32 A1987A 32MB Memory Upgrade Module > > The letter specifically says that the memory is for the 750/750C and that > system memory can be expanded to a max of 36MB. Great! Now all of you who are going to dump your 16MB modules to go buy a 32MB module, let us know--I'm interested in buying your 16MB module! ;) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 14:44:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28325 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 14:44:12 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20982; Thu, 19 May 1994 15:16:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 15:16:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from genesis.ait.psu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20971; Thu, 19 May 1994 15:16:34 -0400 Received: from [146.186.154.28] (rick.hrrm.psu.edu) by genesis.ait.psu.edu with SMTP id AA25332 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 15:16:27 -0400 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 15:16:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Rick Andrew" Sender: wpa@psu.edu Message-Id: <54987.wpa@email.psu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 32 mbytes of memory for the 750 Status: OR DITTO! ------------------------------ From: Randal Whittle Thu, 19 May 1994 09:35:01 -0700 (PDT) To: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 32 mbytes of memory for the 750 > Great! Now all of you who are going to dump your 16MB modules to go >buy a 32MB module, let us know--I'm interested in buying your 16MB module! ;) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ WPA@psu.edu Rick Andrew <*> HRI Finance WPA@psuvm.psu.edu Penn State Univ 814-863-0272 University Park, PA 16802 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 16:46:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28376 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 16:46:40 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08529; Thu, 19 May 1994 17:21:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 17:21:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from oz.geology.washington.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08489; Thu, 19 May 1994 17:21:44 -0400 Received: by oz.geology.washington.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA05593; Thu, 19 May 94 14:07:58 PDT Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 14:00:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor C. Kress" Subject: Hard Disk Upgrade To: Thinkpad Forum Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR The 170 meg and and 340 meg drives are $650 and $1,300 respectively. That works out to about $3.82 per meg. From this we can predict that the 540 meg drive will cost $2,065 and the 810 meg drive will cost $3,097. Start saving your money now! :) -V From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 19 21:24:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09865 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 21:24:37 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06982; Thu, 19 May 1994 21:46:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 19 May 1994 21:46:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06971; Thu, 19 May 1994 21:46:08 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA00385; Thu, 19 May 1994 18:43:05 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 06:46:53 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <24414.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Fw: More questions about the TP750 Status: OR Surprise surprise. Not only can we go up to 36 MB, we can do it without voiding our warranty, and we can do it NOW. :) I haven't been keeping track, but I think the TP755 was just announced (which is why Ken could answer some of our questions on it). I like the hard drive options. :) But I'm sure it'll cost an arm and a leg. :( ------------------------------ From: Ken Inoue Wed, 18 May 94 13:59:02 JST To: "John Kim" Subject: More questions about the TP750 John: My apologies for the delay in getting back to you. As you mentioned, some of your questions just couldn't be answered until today :) and the week before last was a national holiday week (Golden Week) in Japan. Re harddisk power requirement: I am afraid there is no clear-cut answer to this. It all would depend on what the rest of the system might be doing when the harddisk draws peak power... There are multiple fuses in the power subsystem for safety's sake, some of which apply to individual voltage levels such as 3.3V and 5V. The harddisk uses 5V, whereas the panel is directly driven by battery, so I am afraid it won't matter whether you have a mono or a color. Re the plastic housing: I was told that we don't offer it as a separate option precisely because we can't be responsible for any subsequent damage. Sorry. Re the 540MB and 810MB harddisk option: I understand the 750 line will require a Flash BIOS update to support these sizes properly but yes, they do work with the 750 line. You may want to note however that some disk drivers that directly manipulate hardware (like Microsoft Windows for Workgroups' 32 bit FASTDISK driver) may not run on them or see only the first 528MB. Re motherboard upgrade for the 750 line: I am afraid I am not aware of any announcements regarding upgrade to the 755 line or equivalent. I understand it will cost quite a lot because all the boards will have to be swapped (not to mention mechanical changes like improved heat sink). I sure wish Intel offered a clock-doubled 486SL... Re the 20MB memory 'limit': it's just that at the time the 750 was announced, no manufacturers were making 32MB IC DRAM cards. Actually the 750 is designed to take up to 36MB (32MB card + 4MB planar); right now there is a ThinkPad Proven vendor called Apricorn who offers one that works with the 750. You may want to call IBM Direct for details. I hope this answers your questions... Best regards, Ken Inoue -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 20 00:49:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06987 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 May 1994 00:49:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00750; Fri, 20 May 1994 01:23:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 May 1994 01:23:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00743; Fri, 20 May 1994 01:23:10 -0400 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id IAA01535 for ; Fri, 20 May 1994 08:23:07 +0300 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id IAA12083 for ; Fri, 20 May 1994 08:23:01 +0300 Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 08:23:01 +0300 Message-Id: <199405200523.IAA12083@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: External mouse feature on TP750s X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi! I have tested several mouses (yes, the TrackPoint is great) on both the TP750 and TP350 series. It appears that there is something in the 750s design that makes some mouse designs incompatible. The problem appears when the mouse button is pressed. TP750 respondes to the press only randomly. A double click is really hard to produce. The following mouses has been tested Mouse TP750 (several units) TP350(several units) Logitech Pilot works works Logitech MouseMan don't work works IBM M96F9275 don't work works (logitech design i think) The apparent difference between the twon logitech mouses is that Pilot is rated as 5V 25mA whereas mouseman is 12V 10mA. Can this be the reason or is this yet another design flaw in the 750. Should we generate a TP750 hardware bug list. Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University DataCity FIN-20520 Turku From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 20 01:42:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12465 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 May 1994 01:42:12 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06354; Fri, 20 May 1994 02:13:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 May 1994 02:13:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06347; Fri, 20 May 1994 02:13:55 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA10183; Fri, 20 May 94 02:13:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 May 94 02:13:50 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405200613.AA10183@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, wpa@psu.edu Subject: Re: 32 mbytes of memory for the 750 Status: OR I am interested in selling by 16MB module, as soon as I find out more about the price and availability of the 32MB module. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 20 03:17:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20210 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 May 1994 03:17:12 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18892; Fri, 20 May 1994 03:59:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 May 1994 03:59:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18884; Fri, 20 May 1994 03:59:40 -0400 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (8.6.5:29/EUnetD-2.4.3.c) via EUnet id KAA14894; Fri, 20 May 1994 10:00:21 +0200 From: Klaus Eckhoff Date: Fri, 20 May 94 09:58:18 +0200 Message-Id: <9405200758.AA25702@osix.Materna.DE> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: success with SCSI hard disk in TP DOCK I Status: OR Hi all, after waiting about two months I received the internal SCSI kit (66G3513) yesterday. It comes with two trays for 25.4 mm and 19.9 mm disks and the needed SCSI cable. I used a MAXTOR MTX-540SL drive (540MB) and after playing around with terminators I succeeded in running it inside tho dock. I noticed that you have to jumper the drive for "motor start with power", because the SCSI adapter in the dock doesn't send a start command to the drive. After reformatting the drive (was previously installed in an RS/6000) with the SCSI diagnostic comming with the dock, I was able to use it both under DOS and SCO without any problem. --- Klaus Eckhoff, Dr. Materna GmbH, D-44141 Dortmund, Germany, ke@Materna.DE From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 20 04:52:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07601 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 May 1994 04:52:17 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA28196; Fri, 20 May 1994 05:13:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 May 1994 05:13:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from post.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA28189; Fri, 20 May 1994 05:13:51 -0400 Received: from filtroni.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa20407; 20 May 94 10:05 GMT-60:00 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: External mouse feature on TP750s Date: Fri, 20 May 94 10:01:09 BST Message-Id: <9405201001.aa06493@lopass.filtronic.com> Status: OR double click is really hard to produce. The following mouses has been tested Mouse TP750 (several units) TP350(several units) Logitech Pilot works works Logitech MouseMan don't work works IBM M96F9275 don't work works (logitech design i I have an IBM mini mouse (not sure of the no.) and it works fine on the 750Cs Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 20 11:35:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22424 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 May 1994 11:35:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22831; Fri, 20 May 1994 12:02:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 May 1994 12:02:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nucleus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22811; Fri, 20 May 1994 12:02:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (twkary@localhost) by nucleus.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA02686; Fri, 20 May 1994 10:04:12 -0600 Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 10:04:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Tim Kary Subject: Re: External mouse feature on TP750s To: Antti Kilpinen Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199405200523.IAA12083@aton.abo.fi> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Fri, 20 May 1994, Antti Kilpinen wrote: > Hi! > > I have tested several mouses (yes, the TrackPoint is great) on both the > TP750 and TP350 series. It appears that there is something in the 750s > design that makes some mouse designs incompatible. The problem appears when > the mouse button is pressed. TP750 respondes to the press only randomly. A > double click is really hard to produce. The following mouses has been tested > > Mouse TP750 (several units) TP350(several units) > Logitech Pilot works works > Logitech MouseMan don't work works > IBM M96F9275 don't work works (logitech design i > think) > > The apparent difference between the twon logitech mouses is that Pilot is > rated as 5V 25mA whereas mouseman is 12V 10mA. Can this be the reason or is > this yet > another design flaw in the 750. > > Should we generate a TP750 hardware bug list. > Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) > Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research > Abo Akademi University > DataCity > FIN-20520 Turku > > I have found the same problem. Better results are achieved if the PS/2 port is used. I have been unable to get any mouse to operate through the serial port. I have tried various settings and experimentation with the mousedrv.ini file with 3 different Logitech rodents with so-so results. Yes, I think a bug list might be in order, perhaps as a part of the FAQ. Tim Kary From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 20 12:43:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08708 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 May 1994 12:43:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28582; Fri, 20 May 1994 13:03:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 May 1994 13:03:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28575; Fri, 20 May 1994 13:03:45 -0400 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwqsq15213; Fri, 20 May 94 13:03:34 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13402; Fri, 20 May 94 09:58:07 PDT Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA13704; Fri, 20 May 94 10:03:49 PDT Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07385; Fri, 20 May 94 10:02:05 PDT Date: Fri, 20 May 94 10:02:05 PDT From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9405201702.AA07385@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Display gone bad Status: OR Well, it looks like after three months of use our 750C display has gone south. My wife took it on the road last week and when she booted it up one day she said the display was totally messed up, or as she put it "full of gobbldygoop." I haven't seen the condition yet myself, but she reports that the image had a really bad "ghosting" effect and it was full of strange characters. That's about all I could get out of her because she's really not PC or even technically literate by any means (and obviously not on this list :^) The condition went away a day later and now it's back. Someone she works with who also has a 750C said this is a common problem with the model. Anyone else heard or experienced a similar problem? --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 20 14:51:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09395 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 20 May 1994 14:51:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15119; Fri, 20 May 1994 15:30:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 20 May 1994 15:30:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15112; Fri, 20 May 1994 15:30:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199405201930.PAA15112@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Fri, 20 May 94 15:25:38 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Hi all I'm new here. Could someone show me how to find TP750 FAQ? Thanks in advance!:-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 21 03:36:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04731 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 21 May 1994 03:36:45 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08777; Sat, 21 May 1994 04:09:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 21 May 1994 04:09:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08769; Sat, 21 May 1994 04:09:29 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA03890 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 21 May 1994 03:09:11 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405210809.AA03890@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Whoa! To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 03:09:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Holy smokes! I don't read mail for a few days and when I do, it seems like everything's falling apart! We can have 36MB. Our 750C's screen is buggy. We're on the verge of getting a third party hard drive to work! Geez! Well, it's great to get all this info and I assure you all that I'm working hard on incorporating it into the FAQ! So, who wants to sell me their 16mb DRAM card and who wants to buy an 8mb one? :) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 21 07:26:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24546 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 21 May 1994 07:26:38 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11510; Sat, 21 May 1994 08:15:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 21 May 1994 08:15:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11501; Sat, 21 May 1994 08:15:15 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA17773; Sat, 21 May 94 08:15:10 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 May 94 08:15:10 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405211215.AA17773@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Whoa! Status: OR Before this big shuffle down of memory can occur, we need to find out the price of 32MB boards! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 23 07:41:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00534 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 23 May 1994 07:41:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02260; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:23:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:23:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02252; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:23:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199405231223.IAA02252@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6995; Mon, 23 May 94 08:21:21 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 6004; Mon, 23 May 94 08:21:19 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (NJE origin KRUCK@WVNVM) by WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7702; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:20:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 08:20:32 EDT From: "Ruckstuhl, Keith E" To: Subject: surge protection Status: OR Hi- I have a TP750 mono, which I carry just about everywhere. I have a surge protector, but I don't know enough about them to know if it is any good or not. I'll list the specs below, please let me know if I'm o.k. or if I should go buy something better. Also, does anyone know of a single (or double, as long as it is small) throughput protector that _also_ has a phone jack? All the ones I have seen have at least six regular plugs, and are too big to fit in my case.... My current surge protector: Max surge: 2500 amps Max volts: 6000 Clamping ratio: 1:2:1 clamping volts: 130 Max clamping volts: 340 10 nanosecond (10x10_-9_) clamp response time max surge dissapation 32 joules 10x1000 microsecond surge (one time, self-restoring 20 joules) Is it sufficient? Thanks, Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 23 07:50:12 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01004 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 23 May 1994 07:50:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02970; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:30:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:30:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02937; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:30:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199405231230.IAA02937@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7007; Mon, 23 May 94 08:27:58 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 6128; Mon, 23 May 94 08:27:57 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (NJE origin KRUCK@WVNVM) by WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7789; Mon, 23 May 1994 08:27:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 08:27:14 EDT From: "Ruckstuhl, Keith E" To: Subject: multimedia setup Status: OR I have a 750 mono, but the company I work for is about to buy their first real IBMs (they have lots of macintosh). A client of the company wants some stuff written for IBM compatibles, and we need to be able to "take the show on the road". We are currently looking at the 755C and docking station, but I wanted to hear what additional equipment members of this group have, or even your wish list, to give me an idea of what to put on my research list so that I can make competent reccommendations about what to buy. Off the top of my head... I think the 755C, the docking station with a large HD and CD ROM (do I have to buy IBM's, or can I get a triple or 4x spin ROM?), maybe an external sound unit (yamaha or roland), plenty of RAM... any suggestions on what to add to this list (or special considerations) to make the best multimedia presentations possible? Much thanks, Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 23 17:35:36 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26077 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 23 May 1994 17:35:29 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17349; Mon, 23 May 1994 18:16:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 23 May 1994 18:16:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17307; Mon, 23 May 1994 18:16:32 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com ([153.113.1.1]) by dsd.northrop.com (4.1/Gatemaster-4.1) id AA07269; Mon, 23 May 94 17:26:15 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0q5iB3-0009b1C; Mon, 23 May 94 17:08 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0q5iFH-00000GC; Mon, 23 May 94 17:13 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@bart.dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: PCMCIA Ethernet Power Hog! To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 17:13:15 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I installed a 3com 3c589 PCMCIA last weekend in a 750. I would appear that there is no way to put the card in standby. (Though I suspect that the machine can choose not to power up the socket). My requirement is to leave the card in the machine when traveling, but not have powered up. - Does anyone know if when the driver is not loaded, does the card draw minimal power (read much less than 100ma)? - What about other PCMCIA 802.3 card (i.e. IBM's)? Any experience? - When I hot plug the card the machine quits (i.e. screen goes blank and then reboots). It is like the card pulls down the power supply and the machine thinks it was reset. Problem with my 750's DC to DC converter? -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 00:06:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23268 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 00:06:18 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12082; Tue, 24 May 1994 00:52:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 00:52:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12075; Tue, 24 May 1994 00:52:53 -0400 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id HAA25044 for ; Tue, 24 May 1994 07:52:50 +0300 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id HAA18187 for ; Tue, 24 May 1994 07:52:39 +0300 Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 07:52:39 +0300 Message-Id: <199405240452.HAA18187@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: Re: PCMCIA Ethernet Power Hog! X-Mailer: Status: OR >I installed a 3com 3c589 PCMCIA last weekend in a 750. I would appear >that there is no way to put the card in standby. (Though I suspect that >the machine can choose not to power up the socket). My requirement is to >leave the card in the machine when traveling, but not have powered up. > >- Does anyone know if when the driver is not loaded, does the card draw > minimal power (read much less than 100ma)? > >- What about other PCMCIA 802.3 card (i.e. IBM's)? Any experience? > My collegue uses an IBM ethernet card adaptor and leaves it in the TP750s case while travelling. I think the card itself is not a power hog unless the cable is connected to the card. He don't reboot while disconnecting the cable so I think the crd and its drivers are active all the time. Still, he gets 6h battery life. (mono, 4M) hope this helps Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Research Fellow Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University, DataCity FIN-20520 Turku From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 00:55:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27526 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 00:55:37 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15761; Tue, 24 May 1994 01:33:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 01:33:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc7.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15754; Tue, 24 May 1994 01:33:30 -0400 Message-Id: <9405240444.AA18196@husc7.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@husc.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 00:44:41 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: husc.harvard.edu@husc.harvard.edu (Derek Chan) Subject: Hibernation Problems X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi, I'm running DOS 6.3 (IBM DOS) & the latest firmware upgrade. My TP hangs, reboots, or locks up the _keyboard_ (not the mouse & caps key) after resuming from hibernation. In Windows, for some reason, the hibernation command (from fuel) places the machine in suspend mode. The Fn-F12 combination is not recognized in Windows. I did not use to have problems with hibernation. Now, however, it doesn't seem to work anymore. Ideas anyone???? I have a PCMCIA IBM ethernet card installed too, but hibernation was working earlier when it was installed... Thanks. -- Derek Derek V. Chan | Harvard University | chan4@husc.harvard.edu Biochemistry & Molecular Bio. | Senior - Class of '94 | ======================= ===================== Yale WHO? Don't they make locks? ======================= "You wouldn't be here if you already knew everything. . ." - Organic Chem. TF From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 02:49:07 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04012 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 02:49:05 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26427; Tue, 24 May 1994 03:09:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 03:09:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26415; Tue, 24 May 1994 03:08:53 -0400 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id KAA26470 for ; Tue, 24 May 1994 10:08:45 +0300 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id KAA21773 for ; Tue, 24 May 1994 10:08:34 +0300 Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 10:08:34 +0300 Message-Id: <199405240708.KAA21773@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: Is a 755-mono possible to build X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi, I need a TP with math-co and a mono screen. Since Tp750-mono is discontinued IBM requires it's customers be more innovative. Actually I want both a 755-mono and a 360Cs (two separate units). Can I (i.e. IBM service) switch the displays of a 360-mono and a 755Cs?. I think the wideo drivers are identical for both color and mono models- how about between 360 and 755 series?. As aresult I would get a 360Cs and a 755-mono. Is anyone on the net familiar with the low level hardware of the TPs?. First, I wan't to know if this is technically possible. Second, I must find someone to do the work so that warranty is not affected) My option is to buy a 360Cs and a 360-mono(instead of the 755-mono) and must suffice w/o math-co. Besides, IBM will loose the price difference of the combinations. Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Research Fellow Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University, DataCity FIN-20520 Turku From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 03:46:07 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05944 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 03:46:05 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04626; Tue, 24 May 1994 04:15:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 04:15:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04610; Tue, 24 May 1994 04:15:17 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA05044 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 24 May 1994 03:14:59 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405240814.AA05044@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: surge protection To: KRUCK@wvnvm.bitnet (Ruckstuhl, Keith E) Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 03:14:58 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) In-Reply-To: <199405231223.IAA02252@CS.UTK.EDU> from "Ruckstuhl, Keith E" at May 23, 94 08:20:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR A while back, I saw an ad for a travelling surge protector with phone line protection built-in in Tiger's ads. I don't have the number with me now, but you can probably get it from 800 directory (they're in Florida I think but that shouldn't matter). It seemed like a good deal but I just never got around to buying it. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 10:13:23 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26136 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 10:13:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28018; Tue, 24 May 1994 10:52:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 10:52:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28011; Tue, 24 May 1994 10:52:14 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA19311; Tue, 24 May 1994 07:52:11 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id HAA02318; Tue, 24 May 1994 07:52:10 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405241452.HAA02318@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Hibernation Problems To: husc.harvard.edu@husc.harvard.edu (Derek Chan) Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 07:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9405240444.AA18196@husc7.harvard.edu> from "Derek Chan" at May 24, 94 00:44:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > Hi, I'm running DOS 6.3 (IBM DOS) & the latest firmware upgrade. My TP > hangs, reboots, or locks up the _keyboard_ (not the mouse & caps key) after Doesn't sound good... Speaking of which, can anyone give me a rundown on IBM DOS 6.3 vs. 6.1? What has changed/improved and how (and how much $) does one obtain the upgrade? ----- Randy Whittle whittle@scf.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 10:27:16 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29829 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 10:27:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00285; Tue, 24 May 1994 11:04:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 11:04:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00275; Tue, 24 May 1994 11:04:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199405241504.LAA00275@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Tue, 24 May 94 10:59:50 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Subject: Battery life To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Hi all, Should I plug out the AC power after charging? Thanx for your opinion! -yc From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 15:22:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24802 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 15:22:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06732; Tue, 24 May 1994 15:55:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 15:55:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cc1.kuleuven.ac.be by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06697; Tue, 24 May 1994 15:55:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199405241955.PAA06697@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from redmond by cc1.kuleuven.ac.be (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 24 May 94 21:54:55 +0200 X-Sender: wimvh@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 21:55:02 +0200 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: wimvh@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be (Wim Van Holder) Subject: My ThinkPad and I X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi there I'm new to this list. I have a Thinkpad 750C with PC DOS 6.3 and QEMM 7.04 installed. I use an IBM Crdeit card Token Ring Adapter to connect to our network. I'm facing severe problems with QEMM and DOS's and Windows' power mamnagement. I had to remove power.exe in my config.sys and install Windows for regular MS-DOS systems instead of "386SL with power management". This prevents the pointer from freezing after suspending in Windows. Hibernation still doesn't work in Windows. It kinda works in DOS, although the screen is corrupted when saving to disk and QEMM gives and exception error after reloading into memory. Anybody found a solution to these problems yet ? Thanks, Wim Van Holder Tel: ++32 (0)16/28.57.16 Katholieke Universiteit Leuven FAX: ++32 (0)16/28.57.99 Faculteit E.T.E.W. Dienst Informatica Naamsestraat 69 B-3000 Leuven E-mail: BELGIUM fdbaq03@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 15:32:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28027 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 15:32:12 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08342; Tue, 24 May 1994 16:07:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 16:07:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hp.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08328; Tue, 24 May 1994 16:07:16 -0400 Received: from hpbs4328.boi.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.36.108.7/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA01821; Tue, 24 May 1994 13:07:13 -0700 Received: by hpbs3943.boi.hp.com (1.37.109.8/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA16197; Tue, 24 May 1994 14:07:13 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 14:07:13 -0600 From: Sandra Capri Message-Id: <9405242007.AA16197@hpbs3943.boi.hp.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Newbie Status: OR Well, the subscription message instructed me to introduce myself, so here goes... Just purchased (well, my company purchased for me) a thinkpad multimedia bundle (750C, 12M RAM, 300M HD, 2.88M floppy, 14kBps modem, docking station with CD-ROM, lots of multimedia s/w installed). External monitor, mouse and keyboard for use at my desk. The Ethernet PCMCIA card is coming. PC-DOS 6.1 + MSWindows 3.1. MKS toolkit added to keep me from losing my mind in the DOS command world :-) Maybe someday I'll install Linux (if I get a different disk). Soon to install DOS/V and Windows 3.1J for Japan. S/W - Framemaker, MS Office, PC-NFS. Me - I'm a firmware engineer for Hewlett-Packard. I do HP-UX normally, but need a portable for work on trips, or general remote places. I just finished a project, HP LaserJet 4PJ, which intro'd in Tokyo last week (hence the reason for loading Japanese Operating systems). I'll shut up now. Sandra Capri internet: sandra_capri@boi.hp.com or: scapri@mail.boi.hp.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 17:52:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03288 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 17:52:04 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24269; Tue, 24 May 1994 18:14:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 18:14:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nucleus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24262; Tue, 24 May 1994 18:14:36 -0400 Received: from localhost (twkary@localhost) by nucleus.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id PAA21132; Tue, 24 May 1994 15:55:32 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 15:55:31 -0600 (MDT) From: Tim Kary Subject: Re: My ThinkPad and I To: Wim Van Holder Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199405241955.PAA06697@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Tue, 24 May 1994, Wim Van Holder wrote: > Hi there > > > I'm new to this list. I have a Thinkpad 750C with PC DOS 6.3 and QEMM 7.04 > installed. I use an IBM Crdeit card Token Ring Adapter to connect to our > network. > > I'm facing severe problems with QEMM and DOS's and Windows' power > mamnagement. I had to remove power.exe in my config.sys and install Windows > for regular MS-DOS systems instead of "386SL with power management". This > prevents the pointer from freezing after suspending in Windows. > > Hibernation still doesn't work in Windows. It kinda works in DOS, although > the screen is corrupted when saving to disk and QEMM gives and exception > error after reloading into memory. > > Anybody found a solution to these problems yet ? > > Thanks, > > Wim Van Holder Tel: ++32 (0)16/28.57.16 > Katholieke Universiteit Leuven FAX: ++32 (0)16/28.57.99 > Faculteit E.T.E.W. > Dienst Informatica > Naamsestraat 69 > B-3000 Leuven E-mail: > BELGIUM fdbaq03@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be Wim: I believe your problem may be with QEMM. I also had installed QEMM on my TP750 Cs and encountered problems. I spent 45 minutes on the telephone (long-distance) with their technical support. No luck on solving all the problems. Some were solved, others arose. The technical people then acknowledged that they have not had good results with their product and IBM's TP series, and that basically their product was not compatible with this hardware - not very reassuring. I've since removed QEMM from my TP and most of the bugs have disappeared. Windows still seems to create some problems. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Kary twkary@nucleus.com 403-262-7021 T.Kary@geis.genie.com 403-262-1392 - FAX Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 24 20:14:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22917 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 May 1994 20:14:47 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12172; Tue, 24 May 1994 20:55:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 24 May 1994 20:55:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12161; Tue, 24 May 1994 20:55:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199405250055.UAA12161@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Tue, 24 May 94 20:52:05 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Subject: Memory To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Hi all, Have anyone found out the price of 32M ram? Does anyone want to sell your 16M ram? :-) ...... I want your ram! ;-) -yc From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 06:37:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26173 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 06:37:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28576; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:13:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:13:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28569; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:13:09 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id HAA20200 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:14:51 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E1C7D5; Wed, 25 May 94 07:16:12 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: INCREDIBLE Megahertz ! ! From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.411860.700.0CE1C7D5@channel1.com> Date: Wed, 25 May 94 07:12:00 -0400 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Status: OR Subject: INCREDIBLE Megahertz ! ! It's very easy to make a negative comment, but when a *positive* comment is due.....then it should be yelled from the rooftop! :) As most of you know I have a Megahertz XJ2144 modem. Last Saturday I developed minor interruptions while downloading/uploading. After playing around I discovered it was due to the X-Jack, any movement to the X-Jack while on-line cause a break in the communication. I called ComputAbility (purchased modem there) and got a receptionist who said they were closed. She asked me to leave a voice message, and that someone would contact me Monday morning. She said that it was doubtful that I could exchange the modem since it was a few days over 30 since the purchase was made. At this point I was a bit *pissed*, I looked through the Megahertz manual and found their 800 #. Called.....to my surprise there was someone there ready to help. To make an already long story short, the gentleman there asked me a few questions, then said that I would be receiving a *new* modem sometime Monday and to just send the malfunctioning one back after receiving the new one. I received it Monday as promised, with a postage paid envelope to return the old one! Service like this is VERY rare......I want to publicly APPLAUD Megahertz! Joseph Pereira joseph.pereira@channel1.com ps: This will be my last message for a period of about 5 months. Immigration just hired me for a position as Border Patrol Agent, I'm off to San Diego June 6, then to Glynco, Georgia for training. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 06:43:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26396 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 06:43:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29346; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:20:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:20:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29306; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:20:33 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA08943; Wed, 25 May 94 07:20:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 May 94 07:20:27 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405251120.AA08943@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: joseph.pereira@channel1.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE Megahertz ! ! Status: OR (regarding border patrol) But can't you just buy the cellular gizmo for your TP, then you can give us online reports from the border ... :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 06:46:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26499 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 06:46:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29576; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:21:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:21:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29569; Wed, 25 May 1994 07:21:04 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA08946; Wed, 25 May 94 07:20:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 May 94 07:20:57 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405251120.AA08946@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: joseph.pereira@channel1.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE Megahertz ! ! Status: OR By the way, does anyone *have* the cellular modem (the one that replaces the floppy). What does it do exactly for $1999. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed May 25 11:18:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14383 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 11:18:19 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29773; Wed, 25 May 1994 11:24:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 11:24:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29679; Wed, 25 May 1994 11:24:09 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id IAA08902; Wed, 25 May 1994 08:23:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 08:23:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Arie Litman Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE Megahertz ! ! To: Joseph Pereira Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <40.411860.700.0CE1C7D5@channel1.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR It is nice to hear.... As an owner of a XJ2144 im pleased there is this lvel of service available... Arie Litman voice (408)441-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 25 May 1994, Joseph Pereira wrote: > Subject: INCREDIBLE Megahertz ! ! > > It's very easy to make a negative comment, but when a *positive* comment > is due.....then it should be yelled from the rooftop! :) > > As most of you know I have a Megahertz XJ2144 modem. Last Saturday I > developed minor interruptions while downloading/uploading. After playing > around I discovered it was due to the X-Jack, any movement to the X-Jack > while on-line cause a break in the communication. > > I called ComputAbility (purchased modem there) and got a receptionist > who said they were closed. She asked me to leave a voice message, and > that someone would contact me Monday morning. She said that it was > doubtful that I could exchange the modem since it was a few days over > 30 since the purchase was made. > > At this point I was a bit *pissed*, I looked through the Megahertz > manual and found their 800 #. Called.....to my surprise there was > someone there ready to help. To make an already long story short, the > gentleman there asked me a few questions, then said that I would be > receiving a *new* modem sometime Monday and to just send the > malfunctioning one back after receiving the new one. I received it > Monday as promised, with a postage paid envelope to return the old one! > > Service like this is VERY rare......I want to publicly APPLAUD Megahertz! > > > Joseph Pereira > joseph.pereira@channel1.com > > ps: This will be my last message for a period of about 5 months. > Immigration just hired me for a position as Border Patrol Agent, I'm off > to San Diego June 6, then to Glynco, Georgia for training. > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 12:44:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05742 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 12:43:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12746; Wed, 25 May 1994 13:09:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 13:08:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12726; Wed, 25 May 1994 13:08:52 -0400 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwrlc15803; Wed, 25 May 94 13:08:41 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06676; Wed, 25 May 94 10:02:58 PDT Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA22123; Wed, 25 May 94 10:08:59 PDT Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03544; Wed, 25 May 94 10:06:55 PDT Date: Wed, 25 May 94 10:06:55 PDT From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9405251706.AA03544@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Number for AT&T Paradyne Status: OR Anyone have the number for AT&T Paradyne support? My KIT modem died on me last night and their documentation seems to be void of any telephone numbers. Thanks, --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 21:59:00 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04404 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 21:58:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15774; Wed, 25 May 1994 22:38:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 22:38:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ids.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15767; Wed, 25 May 1994 22:38:24 -0400 From: Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 22:19:19 -0400 (EDT) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <940525221919.35385@ids.net> Subject: Processor Upgrade Status: OR Hi, I'm new to this list so I don't know if this question has been answered yet. Does anyone know if the processor on the TP-750Cs is upgradeable to a DX/2-66. Thanks, Jeff From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 22:27:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07691 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 22:27:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19101; Wed, 25 May 1994 23:08:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 23:08:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19094; Wed, 25 May 1994 23:08:22 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id XAA10998 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 25 May 1994 23:10:10 -0400 Received: by channel1 (PCBuucp 2.0) with UUCP id E1C93C; Wed, 25 May 94 22:06:05 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE Megahertz From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.413036.700.0CE1C93C@channel1.com> Date: Wed, 25 May 94 21:41:00 -0400 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Status: OR Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE Megahertz ! ! >(regarding border patrol) >But can't you just buy the cellular gizmo for your TP, then you can give >us online reports from the border ... :-) Heheha Communicating from the border is no problem, from the Federal Law Enforcement Training Academy is. Typical Marine type atmosphere! ;) Joseph Pereira joseph.pereira@channel1.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 22:27:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07729 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 22:27:32 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19112; Wed, 25 May 1994 23:08:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 25 May 1994 23:08:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19102; Wed, 25 May 1994 23:08:31 -0400 Received: from (BARTLES.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA22944; Wed, 25 May 94 22:03:04 CDT Date: Wed, 25 May 94 22:03:03 CDT Message-Id: <9405260303.AA22944@austin.wireline.slb.com> X-Sender: byrne@pigpen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Subject: Re: Processor Upgrade X-Mailer: Status: OR Yesterday at COMDEX I asked the IBM Thinkpad reps if IBM would offer a 750 upgrade of any kind. The answer - No. I then asked if there was any way to swap out the motherboard. Same answer - No. We're stuck with what we've got. Now, could we do it on our own? I don't know - I've not yet dug far enough into my machine to see if the processor chip is socketed. Has anyone else done so? Upgrading to a DX/2-66 is out because the 750 uses an SL chip. But what about the new 100mhz DX4, which is also a 3.3 volt processor. I wonder if this one could be put in place of the SL33. Anyone know? At 10:19 PM 5/25/94 -0400, NEDRY@ids.net wrote: >Hi, I'm new to this list so I don't know if this question has been answered >yet. Does anyone know if the processor on the TP-750Cs is upgradeable to a >DX/2-66. > >Thanks, >Jeff > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Wes Byrne Schlumberger Austin Systems Center 8311 North FM 620 Road Austin, TX 78726-1300 (512) 331-3411 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 25 23:53:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18678 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 23:53:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27494; Thu, 26 May 1994 00:20:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 26 May 1994 00:20:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27460; Thu, 26 May 1994 00:20:00 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA14397; Thu, 26 May 94 00:19:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 May 94 00:19:45 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9405260419.AA14397@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: NEDRY@ids.net, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com Subject: Re: Processor Upgrade Status: OR one thing that NEC has done right, and IBM has done wrong so far is to build a series of non-upgradable machines. The 755 appears to reverse this mistake to some extent. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 26 03:37:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04036 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 May 1994 03:37:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22377; Thu, 26 May 1994 04:02:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 26 May 1994 04:02:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22359; Thu, 26 May 1994 04:02:53 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA03032 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 26 May 1994 03:02:35 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199405260802.AA03032@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Processor Upgrade To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 03:02:34 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <9405260419.AA14397@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at May 26, 94 00:19:31 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > one thing that NEC has done right, and IBM has done wrong so far is to build > a series of non-upgradable machines. The 755 appears to reverse this > mistake to some extent. Well, at least we can breathe easily that the latest OS are aimed at our CPU's or below. I imagine the DX4/100 CPU wouldn't work with the TP750 due to pin incompatibilities. Also, I believe someone said that the CPU was soldered into place meaning any exchange is out of the question really. I think the mistake isn't in building non-upgradeable machines but in wasting our screens. At the least, they should offer us the ability to buy a new machine without a screen and put ours in the place. How much could the screen have changed? From jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Thu May 26 08:01:15 1994 Received: from chs.claremont.edu (CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26881 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 May 1994 08:01:10 -0500 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA28676; Thu, 26 May 1994 05:58:09 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 18:01:56 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Reply-To: jokim@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Message-Id: <64916.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: kensan@VNET.IBM.COM, graff@vnet.ibm.com Cc: antti.kilpinen@abo.fi, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Is video on 360 and 755 interchangeable Status: OR One of the members of our TP750 mailing list has an unusual problem. Perhaps you two can help with some definitive answers. Please reply to the following addresses: antti.kilpinen@abo.fi (The person that asked the question) ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The person in charge of the TP750 FAQ) jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu (Me, out of curiousity) Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I need a TP with math-co and a mono screen. Since Tp750-mono is discontinued IBM requires it's customers be more innovative. Actually I want both a 755-mono and a 360Cs (two separate units). Can I (i.e. IBM service) switch the displays of a 360-mono and a 755Cs?. I think the wideo drivers are identical for both color and mono models- how about between 360 and 755 series?. As aresult I would get a 360Cs and a 755-mono. Is anyone on the net familiar with the low level hardware of the TPs?. First, I wan't to know if this is technically possible. Second, I must find someone to do the work so that warranty is not affected) My option is to buy a 360Cs and a 360-mono(instead of the 755-mono) and must suffice w/o math-co. Besides, IBM will loose the price difference of the combinations. Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Research Fellow Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University, DataCity FIN-20520 Turku -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 26 16:26:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10749 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 May 1994 16:26:19 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21071; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:34:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:34:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21053; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:33:59 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id OAA19331; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:32:39 -0400 Message-Id: <199405261832.OAA19331@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: Sean Chou Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp), moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Processor Upgrade In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 26 May 1994 03:02:34 CDT." <199405260802.AA03032@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 14:32:39 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR > I think the mistake isn't in building non-upgradeable machines > but in wasting our screens. At the least, they should offer > us the ability to buy a new machine without a screen and put > ours in the place. How much could the screen have changed? Well, I keep hoping someone will build a laptop with a 1024x768 screen. That would be enough to get me to upgrade. 640x480 is pretty painful. (I guess either BriteLite or RDI makes one, but it's very expensive.) Keith From halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu Thu May 26 22:38:35 1994 Received: from gwis.circ.gwu.edu by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03535 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 May 1994 22:38:31 -0500 Received: (halinatr@localhost) by gwis.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.5) id XAA28249; Thu, 26 May 1994 23:38:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 23:34:31 -0400 (EDT) From: darren mccabe Subject: 2BT Ethernet adapter To: Sean Chou Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199404281639.AA20566@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Ok, I should have been paying attention when all of you were talking about the $99 Ethernet Adapter PCMCIA card, but I was using a 10BT card. I have chanced jobs, and of course, need a new card. Left the toehr behind (wasn't mine) but now I need to buy one. Is that deal still on, is it what I want? or do you have any other suggestions? Also, what is the status of the third party TP drive insertion? I'm dying to know. And is the 1 gig HD available for the Dock 1 yet? Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Darren Patrick McCabe "Hal" | Mail: Halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu ------------------------------ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 27 07:23:01 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA23404 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 May 1994 07:22:59 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA13555; Fri, 27 May 1994 07:51:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 May 1994 07:51:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ftp.std.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA13548; Fri, 27 May 1994 07:51:53 -0400 Received: from world.std.com by ftp.std.com (8.6.8.1/Spike-8-1.0) id OAA04554; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:14:32 -0400 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA20251; Thu, 26 May 1994 14:14:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 14:14:30 -0400 From: eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell) Message-Id: <199405261814.AA20251@world.std.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Office 4.2 Problem Status: OR Hello All, We are trying to install Office 4.2 on a IBM Thinkpad 750c and there are error messages "Top level INF Parser: Bad DLL data value" and "Processing top level info failed". The Thinkpad is using PCDOS 6.1 and Windows 3.1. Another thinkpad had the same problem, but a desktop system with MSDOS 6.2 and Windows 3.1 worked fine. One thing I noticed is that a temporary directory is created on the desktop system that contains the office setup program and files uncompressed from Disk A. The thinkpads do not have this temporary directory when the error message comes up. 73 Eric CIS:76327,515 eac@world.std.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 27 11:00:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26936 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 27 May 1994 11:00:53 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01364; Fri, 27 May 1994 11:26:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 27 May 1994 11:26:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01356; Fri, 27 May 1994 11:26:35 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA03021; Fri, 27 May 1994 08:26:31 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA00860; Fri, 27 May 1994 08:26:29 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199405271526.IAA00860@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 2BT Ethernet adapter To: halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu (darren mccabe) Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 08:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "darren mccabe" at May 26, 94 11:34:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > > Ok, > I should have been paying attention when all of you were talking > about the $99 Ethernet Adapter PCMCIA card, but I was using a 10BT card. I > have chanced jobs, and of course, need a new card. Left the toehr behind > (wasn't mine) but now I need to buy one. Is that deal still on, is it what > I want? or do you have any other suggestions? I think the 3Com PCMCIA Ethernet adaptor is the best thing since sliced bread. :) The promotion is still on: $99 for a 10-BaseT only and $129 for a combo (which is the same 10BaseT Card and cable, but also with a Coax "tail" to attach to the card in place of the twisted-pair one). If you have *any* doubt that you might need the coax, just fork over the extra $30 and get it. Because if you don't do it now (under the promotion), then you'll have to buy it (the coax connector) as an additional part later on--and that part alone costs $99! 3Com can be reached at 800/638-3266. You'll push 2, then 1, and then you need to ask for Promotions. If you are interested, I think they also have their Etherlink III ISA/EISA/MC cards for desktop computers at promotional prices too--$99 for 2 of them, regardless of type (10BaseT, Coax, or Combo--I got the Combos just to be safe and flexible). ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 29 11:47:25 1994 Received: from CS-PRIME.CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08514 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 29 May 1994 11:47:18 -0500 Received: from localhost by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04968; Sun, 29 May 1994 12:06:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 29 May 1994 12:06:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hk.super.net by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04961; Sun, 29 May 1994 12:05:59 -0400 Received: by hk.super.net id AA06548 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 30 May 1994 00:05:27 +0800 Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 00:05:27 +0800 From: "Mr. Tony K Ng" Message-Id: <199405291605.AA06548@hk.super.net> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Hi all, I am trying to get the TP750 system diskettes upgrades. But I can not get the exact filenames. Please help!? Files I see from this mail list Files I found instead ================== ===================== UT750121.exe same file AU750110.exe Aftps130.exe VI750112.exe Vftps130.exe SY750104.exe S750104a.exe MA750100.exe MT750110.exe Could somebody give me some hints please? Thanks -Tony From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 30 12:38:11 1994 Received: from CS-PRIME.CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15015 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 May 1994 12:37:52 -0500 Received: from localhost by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13332; Mon, 30 May 1994 12:36:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 May 1994 12:36:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tiamat.umd.umich.edu by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13325; Mon, 30 May 1994 12:36:04 -0400 Received: by tiamat.umd.umich.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00313; Sun, 29 May 94 23:34:21 EDT X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 23:34:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Adam Wilkinson" Sender: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Reply-To: adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu Message-Id: <84879.adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu> To: tonyng@HK.Super.NET, Subject: RE: Status: OR In message Mon, 30 May 1994 00:05:27 +0800, "Mr. Tony K Ng" writes: > > > Hi all, > > I am trying to get the TP750 system diskettes upgrades. But I > can not get the exact filenames. Please help!? > > Files I see from this mail list Files I found instead > ================== ===================== > UT750121.exe same file > AU750110.exe Aftps130.exe > VI750112.exe Vftps130.exe > SY750104.exe S750104a.exe > MA750100.exe MT750110.exe > > Could somebody give me some hints please? > > Thanks > -Tony > Tony, I suspect the confusion is due to two things. The first is the upgrade of some of the disks. IBM recently released additional BIOS fixes as System Disk v1.04a, thus the S750104A.EXE. The changes in the Audio and Video Features Diskettes coincide with the release of the 755 and 360 lines, which are similar enough to the 750 (which, incidentally is discontinued, or soon will be) that they three families share the same diskettes. Adam Wilkinson adam@tiamat.umd.umich.edu | "The first time it's research. the second usfmcltc@ibmmail.com | time is just engineering!" - Cliff Stoll Compuserve: 75470,71 | (author of "The Cuckoo's Egg" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 30 13:21:50 1994 Received: from CS-PRIME.CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20878 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 May 1994 13:21:40 -0500 Received: from localhost by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12950; Mon, 30 May 1994 11:31:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 May 1994 11:31:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12943; Mon, 30 May 1994 11:31:51 -0400 From: Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0q89Om-0004tyC; Mon, 30 May 94 10:37 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0q89Bo-0009b1C; Mon, 30 May 94 10:23 CDT Received: from atfs0 by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0q89KH-000Bh1C; Mon, 30 May 94 10:32 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: PCMCIA Ethernet Power Hog! To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 10:30:07 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405300521.IAA04918@aton.abo.fi> from "Antti Kilpinen" at May 30, 94 08:21:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: strat@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR > FYI, I just talked to my colleague and indeed, he reboots the machine without > loading the network application software into the memory. Apparently, the > card isn't active although it remains plugged. Sorry for the misleading info. Turns out that if the card is not enabled (ready), power is not applied to the socket. I returned the 3com card and purchased an IBM card. In general it works fire, but there are still compatibility problems with other software. Using the most current version of the Thinkpad utils (v1.3), the machine hangs most of the time upon boot when the card is installed. Version 1.21 of the util disk PCMCIA drivers function correctly. When ever the card is installed and recognized by V1.21 and V1.3 PCMCIA card/socket services, stacker 4.0 can't deal with the situation. Mostly dos can't find a command.com. I pulled stacker off of the system. A side note that uncompressing a drive with stacker 4 left some files corrupted. All of my problems occur without any network software loaded and in fact without the card enabled. Just recognized by the PCMCIA drivers. Time to complain to IBM, again. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 30 14:18:42 1994 Received: from CS-PRIME.CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28571 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 May 1994 14:18:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14624; Mon, 30 May 1994 14:34:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 May 1994 14:34:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nic.hookup.net by cs-prime.cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14617; Mon, 30 May 1994 14:34:05 -0400 Received: from vetter.hookup.net (vetter.hookup.net [198.133.162.55]) by nic.hookup.net (8.6.9/1.169) with SMTP id OAA26484; Mon, 30 May 1994 14:21:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199405301821.OAA26484@nic.hookup.net> X-Sender: vetter@hookup.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 14:23:26 +0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: vetter@hookup.net (Tim Vetter) Subject: Some PCMCIA cards hate IBM drivers X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi folks, I've been running a GVC FM144 PCMCIA FaxModem for a few months now, and until now have been very happy with it. It was $75 cheaper than the Megahertz, includes MNP10 capability, and has shown great tolerance for noisy phone lines. The problem is I have been using GVC's standalone DOS driver in lieu of IBM's standard socket/card services driver set. Now I'm considering adding an Ethernet card, and I want to start using the standard drivers so I don't suffer TSR proliferation (not to mention, I like the idea of not having to reset the machine after suspend to recover card function!). Loaded the latest version of EZPlay and accompanying socket/card services (downloaded from IBM BBS yesterday) for DOS and Windows, and observed the following: EZPlay detects the presence/absence of my modem card, but reports its status as "Not Ready", the card type as "Memory", and nothing for card information. I've contacted GVC tech support and they say the IBM drivers are no good, while IBM support says the GVC card doesn't follow the PCMCIA standard. It's a classic case of vendor support Catch-22. So, has anyone out there encountered similar problems getting IBM's socket/card services to recognize a card? All I hear about in the group is how perfect the plug-and-play is, surely I'm not the only one who's had headaches ... ? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Vetter 73 Warren Road, Kitchener, Ontario N2M4T6 CANADA vetter@hookup.net voice 519-579-9904 fax 519-571-9520 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 30 21:36:57 1994 Received: from cs.cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26809 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 May 1994 21:36:55 -0500 Received: from localhost by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01067; Mon, 30 May 1994 19:49:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 30 May 1994 19:49:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ids.net by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01030; Mon, 30 May 1994 19:49:18 -0400 From: Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 18:43:23 -0400 (EDT) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <940530184323.4fa1@ids.net> Subject: Sound Support Status: OR Can anyone tell me if the TP750 supports midi or is it just Wav audio? jeff From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 31 19:45:52 1994 Received: from cs.cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07888 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 31 May 1994 19:45:50 -0500 Received: from localhost by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22568; Tue, 31 May 1994 20:04:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 31 May 1994 20:04:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gwis.circ.gwu.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22561; Tue, 31 May 1994 20:04:04 -0400 Received: (halinatr@localhost) by gwis.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.5) id UAA19402; Tue, 31 May 1994 20:04:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 19:58:26 -0400 (EDT) From: darren mccabe Subject: PC DOS 6.3 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199404281639.AA20566@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR All- Is there anyone out there who recently switched from PC DOS 6.1 to PC DOS 6.3, and can tell me what the differences are aside from the RAMBOOST upgrade? I was mulling it over in the store today, and it really didn't seem to apply for the most part because: I'm currently not using PCMCIA Cards I use Stacker, not SSTOR I Don't do regular backups, or schedule. So what are the advantages? Does anyone know? I know the multi-boot feature of ramboost is the key reason for me to switch, but aside from that, do anyone know why? 0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Darren Patrick McCabe "Hal" | Mail: Halinatr@gwis.circ.gwu.edu ------------------------------ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 31 21:00:57 1994 Received: from cs.cs.utk.edu (CS.UTK.EDU) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18816 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 31 May 1994 21:00:55 -0500 Received: from localhost by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02051; Tue, 31 May 1994 21:32:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 31 May 1994 21:32:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ids.net by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02044; Tue, 31 May 1994 21:32:37 -0400 From: Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 21:31:26 -0400 (EDT) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <940531213126.8122@ids.net> Subject: Memory and PCMCIA cards Status: OR Anyone know where I can get a list of cards supported by the IBM card Manager? Also, is the memory chips used in the 750 series the same as those used in the 755 series? I know it isn't very accurate but can anyone tell me what there systeminfo speed rating is for thier Thinkpad 750. Jeff From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 1 09:58:47 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15722 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 09:58:45 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23606; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:31:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:31:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.ge.com by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23599; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:31:12 -0400 From: Received: from [3.29.7.8] by ns.ge.com (5.65/GE Gateway 1.23) with SMTP id AA02822; Wed, 1 Jun 94 10:24:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 94 10:24:48 -0400 Message-Id: <9406011424.AA02822@ns.ge.com> Apparently-To: Status: OR >From andy Wed Jun 01 10:29:59 EDT 1994 remote from spencer.salem.ge.com Received: from spencer.salem.ge.com by salem.salem.ge.com; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:29 EDT Received: by spencer.salem.ge.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.2) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 10:30 EST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 01 Jun 94 10:29:59 EDT From: andy@spencer.salem.ge.com (Andy Spencer) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Trackpoint II - technical info X-Mailer: GE Openmail [version L1.0.3] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 976 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Can anyone point me to some technical information on the ~PS/2 mouse on the 750? Were working in UNIX and can handle a number of serial mouse formats but bus/ps2/trackpoint formats are foreign to us. The FAQ mentions some hacks reqd for Linux. A good reference (ftpable?) including registers and bits would be of great help. Thanks! -- GGGG EEEEE DDDD SSSS Andy Spencer G E D D S andy@spencer.salem.ge.com G GGG EEE D D SSSS (703) 387-7361 (Voice) G G E D D S (703) 387-8651 (Fax) GGGGG EEEEE DDDD SSSS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - GE Drive Systems 1501 Roanoke Blvd / Rm 287 Salem, VA 24153 ======================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 1 10:55:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28696 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:55:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28628; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:22:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:22:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28620; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:22:10 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 6019; Wed, 01 Jun 94 11:22:09 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 8019; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:22:09 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Wed, 01 Jun 94 11:11:48 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA34118; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:11:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:11:46 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9406011511.AA34118@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 3com PCMCIA: HELP!! Status: OR Hi, I'm looking for some help in getting my 3com PCMCIA ethernet card working. I can get the card to loopback using the 3com diagnostic software. However, EZPlay still says the card is "Not Ready", and I can't get my software (PC-NFS) to talk to it. Any suggestions? --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 1 11:24:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06148 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:24:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01746; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:53:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:53:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01738; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:53:19 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA28274 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:53:01 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406011553.AA28274@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: LED Screens To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:53:01 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405261832.OAA19331@wilma.cs.utk.edu> from "Keith Moore" at May 26, 94 02:32:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Well, I keep hoping someone will build a laptop with a 1024x768 screen. > That would be enough to get me to upgrade. 640x480 is pretty painful. I heard the next generation will have higher resolutions but I had heard strange numbers like 800x500 or other such non-used numbers. I myself would be happy with a 800x600 resolution. But it's much worse under Windows where I find the icons are much bigger (no slam intended). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 1 11:42:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10936 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:42:19 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03375; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:13:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:13:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03364; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:13:14 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA03241 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:12:57 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406011612.AA03241@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Network cards To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:12:56 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Will somone who has gotten their network cards to work (PCMCIA only) please e-mail me the way they did it so I can include it in my FAQ and answer this question once and for all? Please include the make PCMCIA cards as well as the OS you are working under and any tricks necessary to make it work. If no tricks were necessary, just let me know what type of card you have. -Sean From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 1 11:45:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11587 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:45:43 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02961; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:07:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:07:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02954; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:07:30 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA01801 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:07:12 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406011607.AA01801@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Some PCMCIA cards hate IBM drivers To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:07:12 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199405301821.OAA26484@nic.hookup.net> from "Tim Vetter" at May 30, 94 02:23:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > following: EZPlay detects the presence/absence of my modem card, but > reports its status as "Not Ready", the card type as "Memory", and nothing > for card information. Maybe it's a case of the autoconfigurator not being able to properly identify the PCMCIA card. I've never really seen this but I've only come across a KIT, Smart Modular Tech Modem, and MHz. Have you checked your autodrv.ini file? > I've contacted GVC tech support and they say the IBM drivers are no good, > while IBM support says the GVC card doesn't follow the PCMCIA standard. > It's a classic case of vendor support Catch-22. Well, in this ONE case, I may be inclined to believe IBM since they have shown quite a lot of discipline in adhering to standards lately. > how perfect the plug-and-play is, surely I'm not the only one who's had > headaches ... ? No, you're not. The network card people are still going through headaches. :) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 1 12:40:55 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24641 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:40:51 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08104; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 13:03:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 13:03:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from VAXC.HOFSTRA.EDU by cs.cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08095; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 13:03:44 -0400 Received: from baskett.hofstra.edu by vaxc.hofstra.edu (PMDF V4.2-11 #3680) id <01HD11ETXYHC9ZLHLR@vaxc.hofstra.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:53:47 EDT Received: by baskett.hofstra.edu (931110.SGI) id AA21604; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:52:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 01 Jun 1994 12:52:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Kendall Chenoweth Subject: linux anybody To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: OR has anybody succesfully gotten linux owrking? if so how? *coinfused* Kendall Kendall Chenoweth, UNIX Coordinator, 516/463-6134, 925-0711 Academic Computing, Hofstra University, Hempstead, NY 11550 "Listen very carefully... I shall say this only once..." Michelle from the Resistance, 'Allo 'Allo From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 1 15:37:10 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14557 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 15:37:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23989; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:04:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:04:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23981; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:04:28 -0400 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwslk20113; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:04:09 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27422; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:58:00 PDT Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA21325; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:04:28 PDT Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25529; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:02:51 PDT Date: Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:02:51 PDT From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9406012002.AA25529@opus.objy.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: network cards Status: OR Todd Tannenbaum posted some excellent information about a month ago on how to get the 3COM card working under EZplay. I've included a copy of his message below in case it will help the person who posted earlier today (can't remember who) who was having problems with their new card. Perhaps this info should also be included in the FAQ. --Bruce Date: Tue, 3 May 94 13:42:12 CDT Message-Id: <9405031842.AA23478@erb1.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: 3COM PCMCIA & Thinkpad X-Mailer: Status: RO Well, I just got my 3com pcmcia card yesterday. There is good news and bad news. Here's the scoop: THE GOOD NEWS: The 3com card does not support being dynamically configured by easyplay. But it can work with Easyplay with a "static" configuration. There is no 3com "enabler" in the traditional sense. Instead, they have a 3com configure program which you can use to tell the card which interrupt, I/O, etc, to use. Then these values get stored on the card somehow (NVRAM?). So, I used this configure program to set some reasonable values. Then I edited my autodrv.ini file's ETHER section so that the only configuratuion ezplay had to "try" for an ethernet card was the same configuration which the 3com was setup for in NVRAM. After that, by just loading the ibm ezplay drivers, i could use the 3com board and the megaherz modem fine. in other words, i did not have to load any 3com pcmcia drivers, etc (except of course the ODI driver!). i was happy. HOWEVER, HERE'S THE BAD NEWS: The 3com board does _NOT_ work in the port replicator slots!! :-( It works fine in the 750 slots, but not in slot C or slot D in my port replicator. I was very disappointed. Has anyone got it to work in the port replicator (i doubt it...) I called 3com tech support and bitched, and they called back and said they have an ibm pcmcia port replicator on order. When it arrives (gee, even 3com has to wait for thinkpad stuff!) they say they will at least look into the problem. no promises, however. they also said i was not the first one to complain about this. i encourage others on this list to complain about this! the more people who bitch the higher priority 3com will place on fixing this. sigh. i think i hate pcmcia. -Todd From kensan@VNET.IBM.COM Wed Jun 1 22:05:04 1994 Received: from vnet.ibm.com by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14430 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 22:05:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199406020305.AA14430@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Received: from YMTVM4 by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3722; Wed, 01 Jun 94 23:04:48 EDT Date: Thu, 2 Jun 94 12:04:59 JST From: Ken Inoue To: antti.kilpinen@abo.fi Cc: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu Subject: Is video on 360 and 755 interchangeable Status: OR Thank you in your interest in IBM ThinkPads. I hate to disappoint a customer but I am afraid that in this case the answer is no, due to technical reasons. The showstopper is the BIOS. Each type of LCD panel (TFT color, DSTN color, STN mono) requires the LCD controller part of the video chip to be programmed in a specific manner. Since the 755 has only TFT model and DSTN color model, the 755 BIOS does not support a STN mono panel. The 360 BIOS will not work on a 755 because of various hardware differences, including but not limited to the CPU clock rate (33 vs 25/50/75) and audio (option vs integrated). You may want to note, however, that to the best of my knowledge the ThinkPad 750 series has not been withdrawn yet. Supply of the color models may be constrained in some countries, but the 750 monochrome model should still be available, while supplies last. Thank you again in your interest in our products, and my apologies for the delay in responding. Sincerely, Ken Inoue *** Forwarding note from jokim --chs.clar 05/25/94 18:01 *** - - - - - - - - - - F o r w a r d e d N o t e - - - - - - - - - - Received: from chs.claremont.edu by vnet.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 26 May 94 09:00:56 EDT Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA28676; Thu, 26 May 1994 05:58:09 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 18:01:56 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.claremont.edu Message-Id: <64916.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: kensan@VNET.IBM.COM, graff@vnet.ibm.com Cc: antti.kilpinen@abo.fi, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Is video on 360 and 755 interchangeable One of the members of our TP750 mailing list has an unusual problem. Perhaps you two can help with some definitive answers. Please reply to the following addresses: antti.kilpinen@abo.fi (The person that asked the question) ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The person in charge of the TP750 FAQ) jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu (Me, out of curiousity) Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I need a TP with math-co and a mono screen. Since Tp750-mono is discontinued IBM requires it's customers be more innovative. Actually I want both a 755-mono and a 360Cs (two separate units). Can I (i.e. IBM service) switch the displays of a 360-mono and a 755Cs?. I think the wideo drivers are identical for both color and mono models- how about between 360 and 755 series?. As aresult I would get a 360Cs and a 755-mono. Is anyone on the net familiar with the low level hardware of the TPs?. First, I wan't to know if this is technically possible. Second, I must find someone to do the work so that warranty is not affected) My option is to buy a 360Cs and a 360-mono(instead of the 755-mono) and must suffice w/o math-co. Besides, IBM will loose the price difference of the combinations. Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Research Fellow Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University, DataCity FIN-20520 Turku -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 4 11:06:43 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18021 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 4 Jun 1994 11:06:41 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14705; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 11:32:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 11:32:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14698; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 11:32:47 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA23442; Sat, 4 Jun 94 11:32:43 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 94 11:32:43 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406041532.AA23442@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinking about upgrades Status: OR is it technically possible to put a second processor on a PCMCIA card? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 4 12:06:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22909 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 4 Jun 1994 12:06:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18422; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 12:31:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 12:31:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18414; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 12:31:46 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0q9yiv-0004uCC; Sat, 4 Jun 94 11:37 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0q9yVm-0009b5C; Sat, 4 Jun 94 11:23 CDT Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0q9yeT-000BhJC; Sat, 4 Jun 94 11:32 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: thinking about upgrades To: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 11:32:53 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9406041532.AA23442@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at Jun 4, 94 11:32:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > is it technically possible to put a second processor on a PCMCIA card? > I think that it is impossible with the PCMCIA 2.x spec. The card cannot become bus master. The 3.X spec is claimed to resolve this limitation. Will know more after next week. I'm taking a PCMICA design class. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 4 20:58:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11961 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 4 Jun 1994 20:58:46 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19500; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 21:08:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 21:08:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shelley2.u.washington.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19493; Sat, 4 Jun 1994 21:08:41 -0400 Received: by shelley2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08120; Sat, 4 Jun 94 18:08:39 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 94 18:08:39 -0700 From: "Jay T. Jensen" Message-Id: <9406050108.AA08120@shelley2.u.washington.edu> X-Sender: ahknaton@shelley2.u.washington.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: MCA Audio Status: OR Howdy all, I'm new to the list, adn this is my first post. I know this isn't tp'750' related, as there is no general thinkpad list, I'll post my question here if you don't mind. I'm looking for a Sound Blaster Pro (Micro Channel). Creative Labs used to make one, but they no longer sell it. If anyone has any ideas as to where to find that or a MCA auido card that is "sound blaster compatible" I'd be much appreciated. I'm trying to find a audio card that will fit into the tp700C's docking station. BTW I help maintain a tp750 if any 750 purists out there are wondering about my 'elgibility' on this list. And to set matters straight it would be nice if the list would clarify whether this is a thinkpad list dedicated solely to the 750 or all thinkpads. Thanks, Jay T. Jensen ahknaton@u.washington.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 5 09:58:17 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06359 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Jun 1994 09:58:14 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19883; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 10:27:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 10:27:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mercury.king.ac.uk by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19876; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 10:27:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199406051427.KAA19876@cs.cs.utk.edu> Received: from ceres.kingston.ac.uk by mercury.kingston.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <29244-0@mercury.kingston.ac.uk>; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 15:28:26 +0100 Received: from kingston.ac.uk by ceres.kingston.ac.uk id <19901-0@ceres.kingston.ac.uk>; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 15:27:34 +0100 From: Sergio Terenas Subject: About the FAQ and multimedia To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: MMDF/Ream v4.16b Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 15:27:34 +0100 Sender: cs_a175@kingston.ac.uk Status: OR Hi all, I was just reading an old FAQ I had at home and one of the questions regarding multimedia 'Can I impress my friends...' or something like that states that the tp750 comes with an impressive multimedia demo. I don't think I got that one with my 750. I didn't get Monologue either. I may be using outdated BIOS, video and sound drivers software. What's the name of that multimedia demo ? I still think I've been ripped off by IBM. When are they going to get a clue about customers ? Isn't it time for them to put all the upgrades (well if they are upgrades, it means previous versions contained bugs and that's their fault, not the customers!) available on ftp ? Why is the IBMDOS 6.3 upgrade available on ftp and the drivers aren't ? Another question asked for a way of knowing the battery info from inside a program. I will work on this one if noone else found the solution for it. Please let me know. Another question, before I try it, the FAQ states there's a reset button on the 750. Is this a normal reset (warm boot) or does it change any of the BIOS parameters permantently ? This question arises due to the position of the button... Thanks in advance, Sergio Terenas From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 5 10:16:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08843 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Jun 1994 10:16:28 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20879; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 10:42:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 10:42:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from longs.lance.colostate.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20871; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 10:42:46 -0400 Received: from longs.lance.colostate.edu (hamilton.lance.colostate.edu [129.82.188.37]) by longs.lance.colostate.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5a (LANCE 1.01)) with ESMTP id IAA03989 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 08:42:30 -0600 Message-Id: <199406051442.IAA03989@longs.lance.colostate.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: OS/2 VESA driver Date: Sun, 05 Jun 1994 08:42:29 -0600 From: Tom Aurand Status: OR Hello to the members! First time communicator. I have a user who would like to run LINKS386, a DOS golf game, on his 750C(I'm not sure about the suffix, the one with the slow display.) This game seems to require a VESA driver be installed and OS/2 doesn't provide one or isn't faking one. Do you know what to do to get the game running on his machine? Thanks for your help! Tom From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 6 13:08:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09471 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Jun 1994 13:08:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07923; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 13:31:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 13:31:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hp.com by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07915; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 13:31:08 -0400 Received: from hpbs4328.boi.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.36.108.7/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA11355; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 10:31:06 -0700 Received: by hpbs3943.boi.hp.com (1.37.109.8/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA27757; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 11:28:47 -0600 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 11:28:47 -0600 From: Sandra Capri Message-Id: <9406061728.AA27757@hpbs3943.boi.hp.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: IBM PCMCIA Ethernet card and PCNFS Status: OR Has anyone gotten the IBM Ethernet II PCMCIA card working on a thinkpad 750C with PCNFS? We're running PCDOS 6.1 and windows 3.1 Sandra Capri phone: (208) 396-2413 internet: sandra_capri@boi.hp.com or: scapri@mail.boi.hp.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Jun 6 13:47:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24544 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Jun 1994 13:47:05 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20113; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 10:43:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 10:43:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20105; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 10:43:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (gottel@venezia.eng.rpi.edu [128.113.5.213]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA21801 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 09:32:34 -0400 Received: by localhost (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/AIXV3-SUB16); id AA21408; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 09:32:30 -0400 for tp750@cs.utk.edu From: gottel@rpi.edu (Lawrence Gottesman) Message-Id: <9406060932.ZM19102@venezia.eng.rpi.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 09:32:25 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (2.1.5 20sep93) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Where is FAQ? Status: OR Does anyone know where I might be able to obtain the FAQ for this list and archives, is any, of prior discussions? Thanks. -- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 6 19:04:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21941 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 6 Jun 1994 19:04:09 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14604; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 19:40:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 19:40:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms.macc.wisc.edu by cs.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14597; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 19:40:53 -0400 Received: from VMSmail by vms.macc.wisc.edu; Mon, 06 Jun 94 18:40 CDT Message-Id: <24060618401542@vms.macc.wisc.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 94 18:40 CDT From: Chris Schumann Subject: DOOM, anyone? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Status: OR Alright, instead of buying more RAM, I bought a VGA to NTSC video converter. Now I want to run DOOM with sound on my 100" projection screen. PLEASE help me get sound working! (?) I've tried changing the interrupt number and DMA channel, and still, no sound. Thanks in advance, chris From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 7 03:58:20 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07997 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 03:58:17 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01140; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 04:20:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 04:20:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01120; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 04:20:45 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA03133 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 02:09:43 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406070709.AA03133@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Where is FAQ? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 02:09:42 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <9406060932.ZM19102@venezia.eng.rpi.edu> from "Lawrence Gottesman" at Jun 6, 94 09:32:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Does anyone know where I might be able to obtain the FAQ for this list and > archives, is any, of prior discussions? Thanks. The FAQ is available at assistant.beckman.uiuc.edu in the wasserman/thinkpad directory. The latest version will be uploaded soon. The archives may be made available depending on space limitations and/or demand for them. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:37:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21950 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 14:37:47 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22962; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 15:01:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 15:01:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22951; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 15:01:38 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id MAA04508; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 12:01:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 12:01:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Arie Litman Subject: DOS games and TP750/755 To: TP-750 List Cc: pcheslaw@pcuk.demon.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hi all, Im trying to get a game called Raptor to run under DO with sound.. With the emulation drivers that come with Audio feature disk, the game does not recognise the audio... Any one out there have any pointers for me? Thanks in advance.. Arie Litman voice (408)441-1166 x4411 FAX x**4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 7 19:43:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12771 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 19:43:09 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16806; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:03:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:03:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16799; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:03:51 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id RAA27328; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:03:45 -0700 From: jawilcox@netcom.com (Jon A. Wilcox) Message-Id: <199406080003.RAA27328@netcom.com> Subject: Introducing myself To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:03:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR As suggested by the welcom message, I'll introduce myself to the list. I am actually not currently a TP750 user, but I will be purchasing one as soon as I get to Business School this fall through the MIT student purchase program. I expect to use it for spreadsheets, statistical analyses, word processing, heavy communications (I'm a BBS Sysop), and some limited DTP (primarily related to B school projects. I will be using OS/2 as my OS (so presumably i'll be doing all these things at once ;-) ). I would love to hear any suggestions people might have on how to buildup and accessorize my ThinkPad. At the moment, I'm considering a 750Cs with a HD around 360MB, 12MB of RAM and a internal 14.4 fax/modem. Does anyone have any comment about the performance of the TP750 with this configuration running the types of things I'm expecting to run? Also, would you suggest an internal fax/modem or PCMCIA? Assuming either one of those, what modem would people suggest? Thanks. - Jon W. -- Jon A. Wilcox jawilcox@netcom.com CIS: 75220,132 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 8 00:53:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07433 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 8 Jun 1994 00:53:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09330; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 01:21:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 01:21:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09323; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 01:21:28 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id WAA28237; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 22:21:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 22:21:38 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199406080521.WAA28237@netcom.com> To: jawilcox@netcom.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Introducing myself Status: OR Great config. I have the following 750C (worth the cash and the wait ) 340 Meg HD 20 Meg RAM Megahertz XJ2144 fax modem Xircom Token Ring Card ( the Xircom SUCKS BIG WIND no support for socket services under OS/2) I run Os/2 2.11 and it screams. Seriously think about the Active screen it makes a huge difference ( OK on the wallet too ) more thanworth it BTW. I recognize the handle from the OS/2 groups. Martin Smtih msmith@netcom.com :wq From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:40:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04768 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:40:09 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08530; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:47:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:47:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08523; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:47:51 -0400 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (rama) id QQwtkt16072; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:47:42 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18720; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:41:09 PDT Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA24232; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:48:04 PDT Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13205; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:46:04 PDT Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:46:04 PDT From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9406081646.AA13205@opus.objy.com> To: msmith@netcom.com Subject: Re: Introducing myself Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR You managed to get OS/2 2.11 to run properly? I ran into all sorts of problems when I installed it. Seamless Win/OS2 wouldn't work properly (screwed up the color map royally) and the power and PCMCIA management were not working correctly. Or at least I know running EZplay would crash the system. Did you acquire any patches from IBM? --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 8 14:52:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26703 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 8 Jun 1994 14:52:16 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20143; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:05:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:05:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20119; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:05:24 -0400 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA39562; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 13:59:18 -0500 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA152440; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 14:04:26 -0500 From: gbu@lochness.uhc.com (Gary Udstrand) Message-Id: <9406081904.AA152440@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: New subsriber To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 14:04:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Status: OR >Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, >how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), >and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST >address -- don't just reply to this message!) I am to be recieving an IBM 755Cs (I would have liked to have the 755C, but the delay in receiving one was to long). The machine has 20megs of memory 340meg hard drive. I am a Windows developer so I will being running windows as my primary operating system. -- __ __ | | o | | Gary Udstrand | | \|/ | | AT&T: (612) 945-6523 Advanced Technology, IS&T | \(_)/ | Fax: (612) 945-6502 United HealthCare Corp \_________/ E-Mail: gbu@uhc.com "A sufficiently high level of technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 8 15:30:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14994 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:30:47 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24112; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:45:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:45:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.ge.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24085; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:45:24 -0400 From: Received: from [3.29.7.8] by ns.ge.com (5.65/GE Gateway 1.23) with SMTP id AA15184; Wed, 8 Jun 94 15:38:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 15:38:40 -0400 Message-Id: <9406081938.AA15184@ns.ge.com> Apparently-To: Status: OR >From andy Wed Jun 08 15:44:50 EDT 1994 remote from spencer.salem.ge.com Received: from spencer.salem.ge.com by salem.salem.ge.com; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:42 EDT Received: by spencer.salem.ge.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.2) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 15:44 EST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 08 Jun 94 15:44:50 EDT From: andy@spencer.salem.ge.com (Andy Spencer) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Anyone using UNIX w/ TP750 & PCMCIA ? X-Mailer: GE Openmail [version L1.0.3] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1325 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Boy have I had trouble using my TP750. Unfortunately I'm not using Linux or BSD versions of UNIX so I suspect I'm kind of off on my own. We're using LynxOS, a real-time variant (mutant). I've been trying to piece together a user mode program to initialize the Megahertz PCMCIA modem but haven't had much success. I've roughly followed the BSD version by Bdale Garbee but when I get to the point where the card is reset it locks up the box. All I really wanted to do is run an initialization program to setup the card so that is would act like a normal COM2 (tty) device. If anyone has had some experiences (good/bad/indifferent) with UNIX and the TP please drop me a line. Thanks. -- GGGG EEEEE DDDD SSSS Andy Spencer G E D D S andy@spencer.salem.ge.com G GGG EEE D D SSSS (703) 387-7361 (Voice) G G E D D S (703) 387-8651 (Fax) GGGGG EEEEE DDDD SSSS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - GE Drive Systems 1501 Roanoke Blvd / Rm 287 Salem, VA 24153 ======================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 8 20:36:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06553 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 8 Jun 1994 20:36:05 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18326; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:13:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:13:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18319; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:13:48 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA02061 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 8 Jun 1994 20:13:32 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406090113.AA02061@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: TP's and OS/2 2.xx To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 20:13:31 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <9406081646.AA13205@opus.objy.com> from "Bruce Reed" at Jun 8, 94 09:45:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > You managed to get OS/2 2.11 to run properly? I ran into all > sorts of problems when I installed it. Seamless Win/OS2 wouldn't > work properly (screwed up the color map royally) and the power > and PCMCIA management were not working correctly. Or at least > I know running EZplay would crash the system. Did you acquire > any patches from IBM? I also have OS/2 2.11 running fine. One thing to note is that you must install the old APM from OS/2 2.1. The new one in 2.11 is broken. Also MMPM/2 crashes if you play a MIDI file. IBM BBS has a fix for that which seems to work. EZPlay crashes if you shut it off...I don't know why, but I just don't load it up since you don't need the actual program loaded to get the hardware working... I'll be installing OS/2 Performance in a day or two. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 8 23:05:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03578 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 8 Jun 1994 23:05:48 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27479; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 23:21:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 23:21:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27472; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 23:21:50 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id UAA12345; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 20:21:52 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 20:21:52 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199406090321.UAA12345@netcom.com> To: bruce@objy.com, msmith@netcom.com Subject: Re: Introducing myself Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Well I picked up the latest versions of all the disks from the IBM PC BBS. The only problem I have is that the colors will flip out when I run my development version of PB apps but this happens on other peoples desks running standard windows. Closing EZPLAY tends to reset the desktop so I take the old doctors remedy. Doctor it hurts if I do this ... To which the doctor says well don't do this. Power management is no problem but I don't allow hibernation. The latest vesions of the disks do state that they fix some problems in this area. BTW I lost my trackpoint functionallity the other day. On site service is a real boon they just came and gave me a new Keyboard. MArtin Smtih msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 10 04:15:24 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16509 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 04:15:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16655; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 04:31:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 04:31:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16646; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 04:31:05 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA11429 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 03:30:49 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406100830.AA11429@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: OS/2 Performance and TP75x To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 03:30:48 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR For those who don't know what OS/2 Performance is or those who are wondering how it works, I have just installed it today. I have one thing to sum it up: it's AWESOME! I cannot say enough about it to make anyone believe it. It's easily 50%, if not 100%, faster in all system events. Load-up time is cut in half at least! I don't want to sound crazy; I'm just one happy camper. Oh yeah, OS/2 Performance is the latest beta version for the upcoming OS/2 for Windows. It's available for public testing so anyone can call up and get a copy. Everything seems to work fine so far and I even seem to have none of the problems THUS FAR mentioned on the net. I will report problems (and fixes) as they come to my attention. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:04:26 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28889 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 10:04:23 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15594; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 10:33:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 10:33:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hk.super.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15579; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 10:33:46 -0400 Received: by hk.super.net id AA13314 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 22:33:34 +0800 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 22:33:34 +0800 From: "Mr. Tony K Ng" Message-Id: <199406101433.AA13314@hk.super.net> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Gotta question to the 750C owners who have RAM card in their notebook. I heard that there are two kinds of RAM cards: one that needs 5V supply and one that needs 3V supply. Is this true?? If yes, any important effects? -Tony From mike@filtronic.com Fri Jun 10 12:04:22 1994 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02901 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 12:04:17 -0500 Received: from filtroni.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa29080; 10 Jun 94 17:53 GMT-60:00 From: Mike O'Carroll X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Network cards Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 17:51:28 BST Message-Id: <9406101751.aa00811@lopass.filtronic.com> Status: OR A belated reply. I have a 750Cs and an IBM Credit Card Ethernet adapter. Installation was pretty straightforward using IBM's supplied disk. The main problem was that the Novell installation procedure didn't seem to recognise the drivers on IBM's disk. What I did was install any old driver supplied by Novell, then manually copy IBM's driver into the right place and edit the autoexec accordingly. This worked for both Dos & OS/2 (I have dual boot). Under Dos, I run ODI + odipkt without any problems, though the default pkt int vector of 0x60 didn't seem to work. I settled for 0x68 in the end. I can also run odi + nmodi (Netmanage's Chameleon driver) no problem. I haven't found any raw packet drivers for this card, but odi + odipkt will do for now. I haven't tried odinsup under OS/2 on this machine yet, but have no reason to believe it won't work (it does on my PS/2 OK). Hope this is of interest. Mike From paul@research.att.com Fri Jun 10 12:34:04 1994 Received: from research.att.com (ninet.research.att.com) by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10938 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 12:34:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199406101734.AA10938@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Received: by research.att.com; Fri Jun 10 13:32 EDT 1994 Received: from argo.tempo.att.com.UUCP by allegra.tempo.att.com; id AA02225; Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:32:02 EDT Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 13:32:20 EDT From: paul@research.att.com (Paul Krzyzanowski) To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: OS/2 Performance and TP75x Status: OR Thanks for posting your experiences with OS/2 Performance. Not being an OS/2 user (yet) and being a relatively new Thinkpad user, I have a couple of naive questions: 1. Is this something I download from the IBM BBS or do I have to call somewhere and ask for it? If it's the latter, whom do I call? 2. Since it's the beta version of os/2 for windows, I presume that I can install this on windows (and cleanly uninstall it if I choose)? Thanks for any help! Paul paul@research.att.com Bell Labs, Murray Hill From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:56:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20717 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 10 Jun 1994 12:56:04 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00571; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 13:10:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 13:10:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00553; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 13:09:56 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id KAA22437; Fri, 10 Jun 1994 10:09:59 -0700 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 10:09:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Hosmer Subject: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 To: Thinkpad List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Does anyone know of a CD-ROM drive (other than IBM's docking station) that will work under OS/2. I am looking for something PCMCIA or Parallel connected. I would not mind docking it, but the things are so *!#@ expensive. Any suggestions? Stephen Hosmer shosmer@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 11 03:53:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20573 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 11 Jun 1994 03:53:09 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05584; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 04:24:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 04:24:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05571; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 04:24:06 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA19021 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 11 Jun 1994 03:23:51 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406110823.AA19021@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: OS/2 Performance and TP75x To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 03:23:50 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199406101734.AA10938@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> from "Paul Krzyzanowski" at Jun 10, 94 01:32:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Not being an OS/2 user (yet) and being a relatively new > Thinkpad user, I have a couple of naive questions: > 1. Is this something I download from the IBM BBS or do > I have to call somewhere and ask for it? If it's the > latter, whom do I call? You can download OS/2 Perf from IBM NSC BBS if you have a subscription ($18/month) or from CompuServe. It's almost 20 disks though so I would advise against this strategy. It's available on CD-ROM from 1-800-251-2177. Call soon because the beta program is supposed to be stopping at the end of the month. If you don't have a CD-ROM, this is probably still the best way to go since it costs ~$15 and, as long as you can beg, borrow, or cheat a CD-ROM drive for an hour, you can make the disk images you need to install it onto your TP. > 2. Since it's the beta version of os/2 for windows, I > presume that I can install this on windows (and cleanly > uninstall it if I choose)? You can indeed install this version over an existing copy of Windows 3.1. I don't know about Windows 3.11. Windows for Workgroups 3.11 is not supported in the beta version although IBM claims it will be supported in the final version. I don't know about the uninstall cleanly (or at least simply). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 11 09:08:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21908 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 11 Jun 1994 09:08:43 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01916; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 09:44:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 09:43:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01904; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 09:43:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199406111343.JAA01904@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 94 9:40:55 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Subject: TP755 memory upgrade To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Hi all, Just got my TP755Cs. After reading user's guide, I found the memory can be upgraded by IC DRAM or DIMMs. Using IC DRAM, it can be added up to 20Mb. But using DIMMs, you have to install the DIMM adapter, which has 2 sockets, then you can expand up to 36Mb (2 16Mb DIMMs). My questions are : 1. the differences between IC DRAM and DIMM? 2. the differences between DIMM and SIMM? 3. which one will be cheaper? Could anyone give me some ideas? I'm very happy to hear your opinion. -yc PS: After playing it a while, all I can say is GRAET machine!:-) In fact, I returned my TP750Cs 2 weeks ago:-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 11 18:25:26 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03981 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 11 Jun 1994 18:25:24 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06703; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 19:02:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 19:02:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06697; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 19:02:44 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9c-UTK) id SAA01409; Sat, 11 Jun 1994 18:49:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199406112249.SAA01409@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: Keith Moore To: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755 memory upgrade In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 11 Jun 1994 09:40:55 EDT." <199406111343.JAA01904@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 18:49:30 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR could someone summarize the differences between the 750 and 755? thanks Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 12 15:55:34 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25104 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:55:32 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11806; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 16:33:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 16:33:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11799; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 16:33:08 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA15975 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 12 Jun 1994 02:31:53 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406120731.AA15975@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: TP755 memory upgrade To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 02:31:52 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199406112249.SAA01409@wilma.cs.utk.edu> from "Keith Moore" at Jun 11, 94 06:49:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > could someone summarize the differences between the 750 and 755? >From what I understand: faster CPU (and upgradeable?), built-in microphone, 1.44 floppy (probably more compatible), bigger hard drives. Am I forgetting anything? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Jun 12 16:08:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28509 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 12 Jun 1994 16:08:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03547; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:18:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:18:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03530; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:18:50 -0400 Message-Id: <199406121918.PAA03530@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by lohengrin.top.cis.syr.edu id aa05265; 12 Jun 94 13:16 EDT Date: Sun, 12 Jun 94 9:31:47 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Subject: Re: TP755 memory upgrade To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Status: OR > could someone summarize the differences between the 750 and 755? > > thanks > > Keith Hi, As far as I know, the followings are some differences between TP750 and TP755: 1. You have two choices of CPUs, DX2/50 or DX4/75. The DX2/50 model can be upgraded to DX4/75! 2. Build in integrated microphone 3. Memory expandable to 36MB 4. Local bus video 5. Preload software: . PC DOS 6.3 . MS Windows 3.1 . FaxWorks 3.0 for Windows . American On-line . Lotus organizer . CC:Mail . OAG FlightDisk . Prodigy . TP755 demos (42 MB)!!! 6. The system startup can be set by PCMCIA:-) 7. The diskette drive is provided with 1.44MB or 2.88BM. (Be ware! I got the 1.44MB model, because I didn't know that in advance:-(....) 8. Hard disk can be upgraded to 810MB -yc From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Jun 12 16:24:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01479 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 12 Jun 1994 16:24:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01500; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:04:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:04:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from kitten.mcs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01493; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:04:05 -0400 Received: by kitten.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.7) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 23:29 CDT Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1) id ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 23:29 CDT Received: by falkor.chi.il.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Sat, 11 Jun 94 23:26:31 CDT for tp750@cs.utk.edu To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Any Enet Experience? From: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us (Ron Heiby) Message-Id: <8HksNc1w165w@falkor.chi.il.us> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 94 23:16:30 CST Organization: DML, Inc., Buffalo Grove, IL Status: OR I'm interested in getting my TP750C set up with Ethernet connectivity. My primary goal is to be able to network with my desktop system when my TP is at home. I don't know why, but I have the impression that Windows for Workgroups 3.11 is the cost-effective way to do this. My secondary goal is to be able to communicate with a UNIX system running TCP/IP (and potentially NFS) that I plan to set up, also at home. I don't know what I need in the way of software to be able to do this. I've seen several NFS packages for PCs advertised and reviewed, but since it's just for me, I'm looking for something pretty inexpensive. I'm also interested in inexpensive hardware. I recently received a note (I think on this mailing list) about a special program that 3Com is running with their PCMCIA Ethernet card that's in the right price range. However, when I called them for more information and tried to ask about ThinkPad compatability and Easy Playing PCMCIA drivers, I had the feeling that I was speaking a foreign language. Anyway, since I'm already using the Easy Playing software from IBM for my MHz modem, I'd like to avoid using another huge chunk of memory for drivers for the network. (This is especially the case, as I'm planning to get a PCMCIA SCSI card and have the same memory desires with regards to it.) Has anyone got any experiences with reasonably priced Ethernet hardware and/or software (like the 3Com) that could help educate me a bit as to whether what I'm looking for might exist yet? Thank you very much! Ron. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:34:59 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03309 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 12 Jun 1994 16:34:57 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15255; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 17:09:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 17:09:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15247; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 17:09:51 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0qCwsQ-0004trC; Sun, 12 Jun 94 16:15 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0qCwew-0009b7C; Sun, 12 Jun 94 16:01 CDT Received: from freedm by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0qCwo1-000BhMC; Sun, 12 Jun 94 16:11 CDT Received: by freedm.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0qCwdJ-000FTiC; Sun, 12 Jun 94 15:59 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@freedm.dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Disk Upgrades To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:59:57 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR So far I can only report failure on performing a disk upgrade to the 750. While the actual upgrade is technically feasible, the problem is finding a drive to fit the system at a reasonable price. Note that the 750 requires at most a 17mm high drive with and IDE interface. The Toshiba drives are 19mm's high. Maxtor's drives are 17mm, but are not very dense (i.e. ~260MB). While I have found the 340Mb IBM drive, it was offered for $949. I don't know what IBM is selling the 750's 340MB drive for today, but I would guess that PC-Direct's price would be close to $950. IBM's 540MB and 810MB drives appear to be only sold direct by IBM, not through distribution. IBM would not sell a limited quantity to an end user. (Read, would you like 10,000 or 20,000 per month?) -- Scott Stratmoen | ..!atfs0!freedm!scott | scott@freedm.dsd.northrop.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 12 19:51:13 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03195 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 12 Jun 1994 19:51:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27405; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:31:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:31:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc7.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27370; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:31:36 -0400 From: Message-Id: <9406130031.AA19906@husc7.harvard.edu> Subject: info on the audio chip in the tp750 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:31:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Hi all...I read that IBM has mad a new MWave chip which has hardware-coded SB emulation (eliminating the need for svaudio.exe). Any chance that we can upgrade the current chip? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Jun 13 01:24:57 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04258 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 01:24:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02046; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 00:49:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 00:49:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02038; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 00:49:07 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA29658; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:39:59 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id UAA25984; Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:39:57 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406130339.UAA25984@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Any Enet Experience? To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us (Ron Heiby) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <8HksNc1w165w@falkor.chi.il.us> from "Ron Heiby" at Jun 11, 94 11:16:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I'm interested in getting my TP750C set up with Ethernet connectivity. > My primary goal is to be able to network with my desktop system when > my TP is at home. I don't know why, but I have the impression that > Windows for Workgroups 3.11 is the cost-effective way to do this. My I've done precisely this in my own setup. Only 2 computers involved--the desktop and the TP750C. Both using 3Com Etherlink III cards, the TP750C using the PCMCIA version on the special promotion you mention later in your note. I presume you have the phone number if you called them. Don't worry about compatibility--it works perfectly (even says so on the box! The TP is one of the "official" computers it has been tested with and shown to work). > secondary goal is to be able to communicate with a UNIX system running > TCP/IP (and potentially NFS) that I plan to set up, also at home. I This part I can't help with. > I'm also interested in inexpensive hardware. I recently received a note > (I think on this mailing list) about a special program that 3Com is > running with their PCMCIA Ethernet card that's in the right price > range. However, when I called them for more information and tried to > ask about ThinkPad compatability and Easy Playing PCMCIA drivers, I > had the feeling that I was speaking a foreign language. Anyway, since > I'm already using the Easy Playing software from IBM for my MHz modem, > I'd like to avoid using another huge chunk of memory for drivers for > the network. (This is especially the case, as I'm planning to get a > PCMCIA SCSI card and have the same memory desires with regards to it.) If I were to buy a PCMCIA SCSI card, I think I'd get the Adaptec. Again, no need to worry about the 3Com card--works perfectly. Doesn't even require any drivers/PCMCIA socket services to work--it runs on some sort of "enabler" so when you have the 3Com drivers for your network, they automatically "find" the card. The only memory used will be that which the network and its drivers require. Oh, and by the way--I suggest you keep in mind that you may have to call 3Com's BBS to get drivers for Windows for WorkGroups to work with the PCMCIA card--but once you have them and edit out a couple of lines in the network.ini file, it works beautifully. I use a 10Base-T setup, with a crossover cable I made myself instead of an expensive hub, since a crossover cable will suffice in a 2-computer situation, but if you want to hookup a 3rd or more, I would recommend just using 10Base-2 (Coax) cabling instead--saves the expense of a hub ($300+). > Has anyone got any experiences with reasonably priced Ethernet hardware > and/or software (like the 3Com) that could help educate me a bit as to > whether what I'm looking for might exist yet? Thank you very much! > > Ron. I believe I just did! ;) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:25:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06217 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:25:02 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13274; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:54:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:54:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13261; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:54:06 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA15026; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 05:50:21 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 05:54:49 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <21289.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP750/755 differences Status: OR In message Sun, 12 Jun 94 9:31:47 EDT, yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu writes: >> could someone summarize the differences between the 750 and 755? > 3. Memory expandable to 36MB > 4. Local bus video > 8. Hard disk can be upgraded to 810MB These are also true of the 750. #8 requires a BIOS update but is guaranteed by IBM to work. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:48:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09750 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:48:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15177; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:20:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:20:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15168; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:20:19 -0400 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA16431; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:14:18 -0500 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA95068; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:19:24 -0500 From: gbu@lochness.uhc.com (Gary Udstrand) Message-Id: <9406131319.AA95068@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: Re: TP750/755 differences To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:19:23 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <21289.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Jun 13, 94 05:54:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Status: OR I was given a 750Cs as an eval unit by our IBM rep.. He told me that one of the differences between the two units is that the 755 has local bus video, the 750 does NOT. [ John Kim said : ] -> -> In message Sun, 12 Jun 94 9:31:47 EDT, yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu writes: -> -> >> could someone summarize the differences between the 750 and 755? -> -> > 3. Memory expandable to 36MB -> > 4. Local bus video -> > 8. Hard disk can be upgraded to 810MB -> -> These are also true of the 750. #8 requires a BIOS update but is guaranteed -> by IBM to work. -> -- -> John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like -> jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole -> This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" -> -- __ __ | | o | | Gary Udstrand | | \|/ | | AT&T: (612) 945-6523 Advanced Technology, IS&T | \(_)/ | Fax: (612) 945-6502 United HealthCare Corp \_________/ E-Mail: gbu@uhc.com "A sufficiently high level of technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:20:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15510 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:20:30 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18079; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:51:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:51:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18072; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:51:56 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) id JAA06288; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:51:52 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wellington.ce.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wellington.ce.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VUI.Andrew.3.70.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.wellington.ce.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.wellington.ce.cmu.edu.rs_aix31; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:48:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Curtis P. Yeske" To: outnews+netnews.comp.os.os2.misc@andrew.cmu.edu, outnews+netnews.comp.sys.laptops@andrew.cmu.edu, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: SCSI/OS2/PCMCIA/TP750 Help needed Cc: "Curtis P. Yeske" , "Daniel R. Rehak" Status: OR We have a fairly large installed base of IBM ThinkPad 750Cs's, running OS/2 2.xx. Due to some ordering snafu's a large part of the supporting infrastructure is not available to us (e.g. docking stations). We are fairly desperate for PCMCIA cards that can support a wide range of scsi devices, (CD ROM's, etc.) under OS/2. For the initial installations we used ParaSCSI from Linksys, through the printer port, under a "DOS from Drive A:" window. This works well, but does not support OS/2 at this time. Recommendations? Experiences? Pointers? Thanks in advance, Curt Yeske cy13@andrew.cmu.edu (412) 268-2891 Carnegie Mellon Civil Computing From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:10:37 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13848 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 11:10:30 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27752; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 11:35:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 11:35:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hsdndev.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27738; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 11:35:44 -0400 From: Received: from warren.med.harvard.edu by jenner.med.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20762; Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:31:59 -0400 Received: from ccMail by warren.med.harvard.edu id AA771532491 Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:34:51 EST Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 11:34:51 EST Message-Id: <9405137715.AA771532491@warren.med.harvard.edu> To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Any Enet Experience? Status: OR My biggest problem with the 3COM PCMCIA LAN card is the lack of drivers for OS/2. It works fine with the TP750C in IBM DOS/MS Windows going to Novell Netware 3.11 and using winsock (trumpet) for TCP/IP support. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:45:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03671 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 13:45:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09596; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 13:46:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 13:46:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09577; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 13:46:01 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA13497 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 12:45:36 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406131745.AA13497@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: TP755 and TP750 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 12:45:34 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199406121918.PAA03540@CS.UTK.EDU> from "yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu" at Jun 12, 94 02:45:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > As far as I know, the followings are some differences between > TP750 and TP755: > 3. Memory expandable to 36MB Note that the TP750 is also expandable to 36MB RAM. > 6. The system startup can be set by PCMCIA:-) What does this mean? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:25:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18987 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 14:25:28 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16471; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 14:47:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 14:47:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.gte.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16460; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 14:47:46 -0400 Received: from bunny.gte.com by ns.gte.com (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4) id AA22723; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 14:48:36 -0400 Received: from sun by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.19) id AA15416; Mon, 13 Jun 94 14:44:59 -0400 Received: by sun.gte.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27991; Mon, 13 Jun 94 14:45:16 EDT Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 14:45:16 EDT From: cvl0%sun@gte.com (Carol Lafond) Message-Id: <9406131845.AA27991@sun.gte.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP755 -TP750 differences Status: OR ----- Begin Included Message ----- As far as I know, the following are some differences between TP750 and TP755: 1. You have two choices of CPUs, DX2/50 or DX4/75. The DX2/50 model can be upgraded to DX4/75! 2. Build in integrated microphone 3. Memory expandable to 36MB 4. Local bus video 5. Preload software: . PC DOS 6.3 . MS Windows 3.1 . FaxWorks 3.0 for Windows . American On-line . Lotus organizer . CC:Mail . OAG FlightDisk . Prodigy . TP755 demos (42 MB)!!! 6. The system startup can be set by PCMCIA:-) 7. The diskette drive is provided with 1.44MB or 2.88BM. (Be ware! I got the 1.44MB model, because I didn't know that in advance:-(....) 8. Hard disk can be upgraded to 810MB -yc ----- End Included Message ----- We are on the waiting list for the 755C and would like to run Solaris unix on it. We've talked to Solaris and they told us that Solaris 2.4 runs on the 750, but they don't have a 755 yet either, so they can't tell us that it will run on the 755. They said that the key is whether there are any different on board divices on the 755. Does anyone know if any of these differences would involve on onboard device? Are there any other differences that could cause us trouble running Solaris? Thanks, Carol From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:59:08 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12385 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 19:59:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18253; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 20:25:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 20:25:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18217; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 20:25:40 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA16995; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 17:21:58 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 17:26:22 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <62783.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 3Com Enet promo Status: OR In message Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:39:57 -0700 (PDT), Randal Whittle writes: > I've done precisely this in my own setup. Only 2 computers > involved--the desktop and the TP750C. Both using 3Com Etherlink III > cards, the TP750C using the PCMCIA version on the special promotion you > mention later in your note. ... Don't worry about compatibility--it > works perfectly (even says so on the box! The TP is one of the > "official" computers it has been tested with and shown to work). Has anyone gotten this particular card working under OS/2? I'd like to know before I sink the money. Thanks. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 13 21:58:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA07464 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Jun 1994 21:58:56 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29608; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 22:26:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 22:26:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from serv0.cae.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29601; Mon, 13 Jun 1994 22:26:40 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu by serv0.cae.wisc.edu (4.1/31D) id AA26182; Mon, 13 Jun 94 21:26:38 CDT Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 21:26:38 CDT Message-Id: <9406140226.AA26182@serv0.cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: 3Com Enet & Port Replicator Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) X-Mailer: Status: OR At 08:39 PM 6/12/94 -0700, Randal Whittle wrote: >Both using 3Com Etherlink III >cards, the TP750C using the PCMCIA version on the special promotion you >mention later in your note. I presume you have the phone number if you >called them. Don't worry about compatibility--it works perfectly (even >says so on the box! The TP is one of the "official" computers it has been >tested with and shown to work). > Well, the 3com PCMCIA board _almost_ works perfectly with the Thinkpad and the Easyplay drivers. The only problem is that you must put the card into Slot A or Slot B, i.e. one of the 2 slots _that is in your Thinkpad_. In other words, if you have the PCMCIA Port Replicator (like I do), the 3com board will not work at all in the replicator slots. I have actually found the person in charge of this at 3com. The problem is that THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THEIR PORT REPLICATOR SINCE EARLY APRIL!! Shheesh! Supposedly, their vendor says that the replicators are back-ordered. Anyone who works at IBM reading this? Could someone in the IBM Thinkpad division loan 3Com a port replicator so that they can make a product which is compatible with your product? If so, please email me (tannenba@engr.wisc.edu) and I'll supply the name/number of the guy in charge at 3com.... Thanks Todd From kensan@VNET.IBM.COM Tue Jun 14 04:27:41 1994 Received: from vnet.ibm.com by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29025 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 14 Jun 1994 04:27:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199406140927.AA29025@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Received: from YMTVM4 by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6501; Tue, 14 Jun 94 05:27:22 EDT Date: Tue, 14 Jun 94 18:27:27 JST From: Ken Inoue To: Sean Chou Subject: Re: Is video on 360 and 755 interchangeable Status: OR Sean: My apologies for the delay. To cut a long story short, the 750C panel MAY work in the 755C but this is not supported by IBM; the warranties will be void if tried. I would strongly recommend against doing that. Also, if you are thinking about swapping a 755CS panel with a 750C panel, you will want to note that the 755CS panel will NOT work in the 750C (the 750CS has a newer revision level of video chip). Best regards, Ken Inoue *** Forwarding note from ychou --uxa.cso. 06/03/94 00:58 *** - - - - - - - - - - F o r w a r d e d N o t e - - - - - - - - - - Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by vnet.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 03 Jun 94 01:57:58 EDT Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA24998 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for kensan@VNET.IBM.COM); Fri, 3 Jun 1994 00:58:09 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406030558.AA24998@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Is video on 360 and 755 interchangeable To: kensan@VNET.IBM.COM (Ken Inoue) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 00:58:08 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199406020305.AA14430@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> from "Ken Inoue" at Jun 2, 94 12:04:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 268 > the video chip to be programmed in a specific manner. Since the 755 has > only TFT model and DSTN color model, the 755 BIOS does not support a > STN mono panel. The 360 BIOS will not work on a 755 because of various But will the TP750 TFT screen work with the 755? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 15 03:16:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04281 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 15 Jun 1994 03:16:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14888; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 03:51:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 03:51:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14881; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 03:51:30 -0400 Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (actually localhost) by brolga.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP (PP); Wed, 15 Jun 1994 17:51:21 +1000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 17:51:17 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Murdoch Subject: Introduction + Sound Card Emulation Question To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hi all, I've just subscribed to this list and as per the instructions, here is my introduction. My newly aquired Thinkpad 750 has 340 MB Hard drive 4MB RAM (another 4 coming soon) IBM DOS 6.1 Windows 3.1 Soon to have OS/2 (maybe Personal OS/2 if I can find it :) (i.e. when I get the other 4MB RAM :) Thinkdock I (For home) Port replicator on order(for work) My first questions to the group is - Is there an option to emulate a Soundblaster using the thinkpads built in sound device ? - Is it included in the Extended Audio Features Disk you can send away for ? - Can I get the Extended Audio Features Disk from an FTP site somewhere ? >From the FAQ I assume that all I need is on the Audio Features disk 1.10 - so I guess the third question is the most important one, i.e. are revisions of the audio driver disk (and the other disks I guess) available on an FTP site somewhere ? Thanks in Advance ant From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:05:07 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29457 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 15 Jun 1994 08:05:05 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11593; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 08:36:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 08:36:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11583; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 08:36:30 -0400 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (8.6.5:29/EUnetD-2.4.3.f) via EUnet id OAA22141; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 14:37:15 +0200 From: Klaus Eckhoff Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 14:35:15 +0200 Message-Id: <9406151235.AA12157@osix.Materna.DE> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 3COM EtherLink III 589 PCMCIA LAN anybody Status: OR Hello, I'm thinking of getting an 3C-589 PCMCIA LAN adaptor, because this one is supported by SCO UNIX/ODT running on my TP750C. Is there any experience with this adaptor running DOS/Windows with or without EZPLAY? Does it require an external power supply? Finally the old question again: Is there an FTP site where to get the latest versions of all the needed TP driveres etc. I'm interested in the BIOS upgrade to use larger harddisks (like the TP755). Are there any prices avaliable for these new drives? Thanks for your help! --- Klaus Eckhoff, Dr. Materna GmbH, D-44141 Dortmund, Germany, ke@Materna.DE From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:29:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14993 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 15 Jun 1994 14:29:47 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17087; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 14:43:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 14:43:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from technet1.shl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17079; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 14:43:11 -0400 Received: from mm-gw.shl.com by technet1.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA27400; Wed, 15 Jun 94 11:39:17 PDT Received: by mm-gw.shl.com with Microsoft Mail id <2DFF4BCB@mm-gw.shl.com>; Wed, 15 Jun 94 11:43:23 PDT From: NELSON Tim To: "TP750@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: RE: subscription request Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 11:12:00 PDT Message-Id: <2DFF4BCB@mm-gw.shl.com> Encoding: 22 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Status: OR tnelson@shl.com has been added to the tp750 mailing list. RE: Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST address -- don't just reply to this message!) Greetings from Los Angeles, California. (City of Cerritos to be exact) I am Tim Nelson, Chief Scientist, SHL Systemhouse Inc. My speciality is Application Development Environments. That is, anything that lets human beings create application software better, faster, and/or cheaper. I am using a IBM Thinkpad 750Ce (50Mhz 486) with a 340M disk, 20M memory, and a Megahertz XJ1144 (14.4K bps + FAX with X-Jack). I am running Windows for Workgroups 3.11. I plan to be install Windows NT onto a second drive very soon. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:23:02 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21041 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 15 Jun 1994 21:22:57 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25334; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 21:45:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 21:45:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25307; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 21:45:16 -0400 Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (actually localhost) by brolga.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP (PP); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 11:44:37 +1000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 11:44:31 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Murdoch Subject: Re: 3COM EtherLink III 589 PCMCIA LAN anybody To: Klaus Eckhoff Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9406151235.AA12157@osix.Materna.DE> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Wed, 15 Jun 1994, Klaus Eckhoff wrote: > > I'm thinking of getting an 3C-589 PCMCIA LAN adaptor, because this one > is supported by SCO UNIX/ODT running on my TP750C. > > Is there any experience with this adaptor running DOS/Windows with > or without EZPLAY? Does it require an external power supply? > I've been using the 3c589 in a COMPAQ contura for about 2 months and in my new Thinkpad 750 for the past two weeks without a problem. I've been using the ODI drivers provided. On the Concerto I was using the IPXODI link for Windows 3.11 again with no problem. I've even played doom between two notebooks using 3c589 adaptors connected via a 10base-t cross over cable. The only problem I have with them is the lack of OS/2 drivers. When I load Personal OS/2 onto the thinkpad, I'd like to use the 3c589 for my ethernet connection :| There is no need for an external power supply. Cheers ant From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 15 23:34:48 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA13509 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 15 Jun 1994 23:34:45 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07320; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 00:12:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 00:12:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07313; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 00:12:20 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA26049; Wed, 15 Jun 1994 21:08:35 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 21:12:57 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <76378.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Introduction + Sound Card Emulation Question Status: OR In message Wed, 15 Jun 1994 17:51:17 +1000 (EST), Anthony Murdoch writes: > 4MB RAM (another 4 coming soon) C'mon, you can go for an 8 MB card. :) Seriously, even if you don't need that much memory, a 4-6 MB ramdisk can do wonders for your battery life. I've managed to make my 750 mono (12 MB) run for almost 8 hours on one charge when I let the hard drive spin down and played games off a ramdisk. >From the FAQ I assume that all I need is on the Audio Features disk 1.10 > > - so I guess the third question is the most important one, i.e. are > revisions of the audio driver disk (and the other disks I guess) > available on an FTP site somewhere ? Sean, it looks like you'd better add something to the FAQ about why the disks aren't currently available via ftp, and how we're hoping they soon will be. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 15 23:52:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15888 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 15 Jun 1994 23:51:59 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09459; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 00:29:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 00:29:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09452; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 00:29:09 -0400 Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (actually localhost) by brolga.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP (PP); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:28:02 +1000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:27:54 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Murdoch Subject: RE: Introduction + Sound Card Emulation Question To: John Kim Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <76378.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Wed, 15 Jun 1994, John Kim wrote: > In message Wed, 15 Jun 1994 17:51:17 +1000 (EST), > Anthony Murdoch writes: > > 4MB RAM (another 4 coming soon) > > C'mon, you can go for an 8 MB card. :) Seriously, even if you don't need > that much memory, a 4-6 MB ramdisk can do wonders for your battery life. > I've managed to make my 750 mono (12 MB) run for almost 8 hours on one > charge when I let the hard drive spin down and played games off a ramdisk. > Unfortunately my manager thought a machine with more RAM would be hard to sell after I've finished my stint with it (I work in conjunction with a Uni retail outlet and our equipment gets rotated as shop stock, so I get to play with a few of the more recent toys :) - I originally asked for a 16MB upgrade, but they are expensive. I get to use a desktop PC with 32MB RAM, so I cannot complain too much :) > Sean, it looks like you'd better add something to the FAQ about why the > disks aren't currently available via ftp, and how we're hoping they soon > will be. > Do tell ? ant From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 14:57:28 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22283 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:57:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28506; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:12:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:12:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28497; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:12:38 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id MAA25982; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 12:12:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 12:12:52 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199406161912.MAA25982@netcom.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, shosmer@netcom.com Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 Status: OR Unfortunately there are no PCMCIA options available and I would avoid parallel port options like the plague unless you want to play with EPP ( YUK PUKE SPIT !!!! ). I plonked the cash for the dock and have not regretted it yet. Martin Smith msmith @netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:23:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00458 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:23:28 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01206; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:41:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:41:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01183; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:41:24 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA16432 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:41:05 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406161941.AA16432@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: New FAQ To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:41:04 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR The latest FAQ has been uploaded to assistant.beckman.uiuc.edu. A lot of new stuff was added. I'm also in the process of thinking if I should expand it to a tp75x FAQ. I sort of have, at least in spirit. Of course, the 360's would probably fall in there... Anyway, I will also be posting the FAQ to our list for those who do not have FTP access or are too lazy to get it! :) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:56:07 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10366 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 15:56:04 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03236; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:01:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:01:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03225; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:01:15 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA04839; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 13:01:05 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id NAA28164; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 13:00:50 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406162000.NAA28164@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 To: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 13:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199406161912.MAA25982@netcom.com> from "Martin P. Smith" at Jun 16, 94 12:12:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Unfortunately there are no PCMCIA options available and I would avoid > parallel port options like the plague unless you want to play with > EPP ( YUK PUKE SPIT !!!! ). I plonked the cash for the dock and have > not regretted it yet. > Martin Smith > msmith @netcom.com What do you have against the EPP? (I have no real experience with it) It seems to me that a person who bought a standard, SCSI-based external CD-ROM drive could have a perfectly workable solution if they also got a PCMCIA or Parallel-based SCSI solution. Both exist and are readily available. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 16:25:23 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18684 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:25:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03774; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:09:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:09:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03767; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:09:51 -0400 Received: from mongrel (MONGREL.AUSTIN.WIRELINE.SLB.COM) by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AA20208; Thu, 16 Jun 94 15:04:17 CDT Date: Thu, 16 Jun 94 15:04:17 CDT Message-Id: <9406162004.AA20208@austin.wireline.slb.com> X-Sender: byrne@pigpen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Subject: Kudos to IBM Service. X-Mailer: Status: OR Tuesday night I turned on my 750C and had the unfortunate experience of seeing a screen fail. The screen had a black fractal like pattern eminating from the upper left corner and spreading to the center of the screen. The whole upper left quadrant of the screen was useless. At 8:00am Wednesday morning I called the IBM 800 Service number. Within 10 minutes I was called back by local IBM Service. Within 2 hours, the machine was picked up from my office and taken in for repair. Early Thursday morning, the machine was returned to me at my office with a replaced screen. Everything was covered by warranty. What impressed me more than the 1 day turn around was that these guys were apologizing because they couldn't fix it on the spot. They had to get a screen brought in from Dallas. Kudos to IBM Service, and to Chip and Terry of the Austin IBM Service Center! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wes Byrne Schlumberger Austin Systems Center 8311 North FM 620 Road Austin, TX 78726-1300 (512) 331-3411 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 16:29:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19766 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:29:00 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05075; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:24:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:24:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from research.att.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05068; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:24:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199406162024.QAA05068@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by research.att.com; Thu Jun 16 16:17 EDT 1994 Received: from argo.tempo.att.com.UUCP by allegra.tempo.att.com; id AA21734; Thu, 16 Jun 94 16:17:23 EDT Date: Thu, 16 Jun 94 16:17:32 EDT From: paul@research.att.com (Paul Krzyzanowski) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: games with sound Status: OR There's been at least one request for information on getting Doom working properly on the thinkpad. I've not succeeded except in using the pc speaker. I've tried running The 7th Guest and ran into the same problem -- the software wants to know the sound card, port number, and IRQ. Has anyone had any luck with getting either of these games running on the 750? Paul Krzyzanowski From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:11:28 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02183 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:11:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08363; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:04:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:04:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08277; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:03:48 -0400 Received: from FirstPerson.COM (rampart.EBay.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA18377; Thu, 16 Jun 94 14:02:23 PDT Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by FirstPerson.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27412; Thu, 16 Jun 94 14:01:18 PDT Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA11179; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:01:15 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12411; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:03:19 +0800 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:03:19 +0800 From: Chuck.McManis@firstperson.com (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9406162103.AA12411@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, paul@research.att.com Subject: Re: games with sound X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: OR Well, I've finally got all of the scoop on this particular issue. I actually got it from the people at Digispeech (makers of the Porta*Sound sound unit for laptops). Doom, and some others, write to the SoundBlaster registers directly with the processor in "protected" mode. Basically they are using a DOS extender (4GW) which allows them to use a full 32 bit address space. The IBM sound blaster emulation, and the Porta*Sound sound blaster emulation both rely on a feature of the '386 and above called "virtual mode". In this mode you can configure the processor to trap on I/O to individual addresses. Both IBM and Digispeech put an interrupt handler on this trap, and add the sound blaster I/O port (220H) to the list the processor should trap on. When an application "writes" to the SoundBlaster, the processor traps, the emulation code looks at what was written and then emulates the function. Since Doom and some of the newer Sierra Online games take the system out of virtual mode to run in, they disable this feature of the system and the emulation code CANNOT function. Basically this means you will never get the kind of sound the system is capable of out of the system with Doom because it doesn't have a register compatible version of the SoundBlaster hardware. (Note I expect it irriates IBM to no end that their otherwise WONDERFUL machine is screwed because they didn't follow the hardware _exactly_ of the defacto industry standard. Its ironic that the clone manufacturers already figured this out when they tried to sell MS-DOS computers that ran only "well behaved" applications of which where were about two.) Hence the newere version of the MWave chip that is SoundBlaster register compatible. Although a bit of hardware that decoded the I/O address and generated an interrupt would work too. So there is one light on the horizon but it isn't too bright at the moment. Windows (which like these DOS extenders runs in protected mode) has good support for audio and I've yet to find a Windows program that wanted audio that couldn't use the TP's chip. Microsoft is attempting to create a Windows/Games interface for fast interaction while preserving the device driver abstraction. Their *PROTOTYPE* customer is id software and DOOM. (there was an article on this in the San Jose Mercury News). If Microsoft is successful in defining a standard, and if the game writers use it, then all games from that point on will be able to use the TP750's sound. The risk of course is that no one has ever been able to create a "Games" OS that the games programmers didn't think "got in their way" so they went right to the hardware. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:45:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09181 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:45:51 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10787; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:34:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:34:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10772; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:34:12 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA09742; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:34:07 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id OAA06787; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:34:06 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406162134.OAA06787@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Kudos to IBM Service. To: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9406162004.AA20208@austin.wireline.slb.com> from "Wes Byrne" at Jun 16, 94 03:04:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > At 8:00am Wednesday morning I called the IBM 800 Service number. Within 10 > minutes I was called back by local IBM Service. Within 2 hours, the machine > was picked up from my office and taken in for repair. Early Thursday > morning, the machine was returned to me at my office with a replaced screen. > Everything was covered by warranty. > > What impressed me more than the 1 day turn around was that these guys were > apologizing because they couldn't fix it on the spot. They had to get a > screen brought in from Dallas. > > Kudos to IBM Service, and to Chip and Terry of the Austin IBM Service Center! My experience was nearly as good (just add a couple more days to it) and for a lot smaller of a problem (my screen hinge was just a touch loose-- and a rattling sound must have been the screw!). Also, after only a few months, the connector where the power is received decided to disengage itself from the rest of the cable covering, hanging on only by a few wires. IBM cheerfully sent me a new power adapter the next day and a couple days later, sent UPS out to pick up the old one. I am a previous owner of a SHARP notebook machine which had its own little set of problems. I paid the $ premium for the IBM machine because I wanted better service and assistance when problems cropped up. The extra $ hurt a little, but it is times like this that make me *very* happy I bought an IBM. I've never even been a big IBM freak, but after these positive experiences, I may be buying more IBM machines in the future. After years of customer ignorance, it seems IBM has learned their lesson. I for one am very glad they did. Kudos! ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:46:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09313 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:46:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12396; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:54:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:54:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12389; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:54:04 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA10859; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:54:01 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id OAA08835; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:53:58 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406162153.OAA08835@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 To: shosmer@netcom.com (Stephen Hosmer) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Stephen Hosmer" at Jun 16, 94 02:43:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > If you know of a PCMCIA to SCSI option for OS/2 please speek up. I have > been looking for such an animal and keep hitting brick walls. > > Stephen Hosmer > shosmer@netcom.com Ummm....Duhhhh...(I forgot the problem was getting it to work with OS/2!!!) I'll try not to rip on you OS/2 types, but sometimes I can't help it... THIS is what you get for being on the "cutting edge" as it were. Namely, little or no driver support. If its as crippling as it appears, I don't understand why people stay so loyal to OS/2. I've tried it in 3 different incarnations (versions 1.3, 2.0, 2.1) and every time gave up on it for precisely the same reason you can't find a PCMCIA to SCSI or parallel to SCSI solution--no driver support. All that fancy multitasking doesn't do a lot of good when one can't even get drivers to run their devices... ...okay, I'll shut up now. :) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:49:26 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA09877 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:49:23 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11640; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:44:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:44:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11632; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:44:20 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id OAA26324; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:43:56 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:43:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Hosmer Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 To: Randal Whittle Cc: Thinkpad List In-Reply-To: <199406162000.NAA28164@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR If you know of a PCMCIA to SCSI option for OS/2 please speek up. I have been looking for such an animal and keep hitting brick walls. Stephen Hosmer shosmer@netcom.com On Thu, 16 Jun 1994, Randal Whittle wrote: > > Unfortunately there are no PCMCIA options available and I would avoid > > parallel port options like the plague unless you want to play with > > EPP ( YUK PUKE SPIT !!!! ). I plonked the cash for the dock and have > > not regretted it yet. > > > Martin Smith > > msmith @netcom.com > > What do you have against the EPP? (I have no real experience with it) > > It seems to me that a person who bought a standard, SCSI-based > external CD-ROM drive could have a perfectly workable solution if they also > got a PCMCIA or Parallel-based SCSI solution. Both exist and are readily > available. > > ----- > Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu > University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) > - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... > "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin > "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 19:53:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00951 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 19:53:45 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21998; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:11:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:10:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from longs.lance.colostate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21989; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:10:57 -0400 Received: from longs.lance.colostate.edu (hamilton.lance.colostate.edu [129.82.188.37]) by longs.lance.colostate.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5a (LANCE 1.01)) with ESMTP id SAA19945; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 18:10:01 -0600 Message-Id: <199406170010.SAA19945@longs.lance.colostate.edu> To: Randal Whittle Cc: shosmer@netcom.com (Stephen Hosmer), TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:53:57 MDT." <199406162153.OAA08835@aludra.usc.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 18:10:00 -0600 From: Tom Aurand Status: OR EPP works under OS/2 though I have not tried it on a TP750C. >> >> If you know of a PCMCIA to SCSI option for OS/2 please speek up. I have >> been looking for such an animal and keep hitting brick walls. >> >> Stephen Hosmer >> shosmer@netcom.com > > Ummm....Duhhhh...(I forgot the problem was getting it to work >with OS/2!!!) > > I'll try not to rip on you OS/2 types, but sometimes I can't help >it... > > THIS is what you get for being on the "cutting edge" as it were. >Namely, little or no driver support. If its as crippling as it appears, >I don't understand why people stay so loyal to OS/2. > > I've tried it in 3 different incarnations (versions 1.3, 2.0, 2.1) >and every time gave up on it for precisely the same reason you can't find >a PCMCIA to SCSI or parallel to SCSI solution--no driver support. > > All that fancy multitasking doesn't do a lot of good when one >can't even get drivers to run their devices... > > ...okay, I'll shut up now. :) Good move! You don't seem to know. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 20:02:09 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02813 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:02:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23332; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:29:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:29:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23324; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:29:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199406170029.UAA23324@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4400; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:29:38 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 7316; Thu, 16 Jun 94 20:29:37 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (NJE origin KRUCK@WVNVM) by WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 6748; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:27:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:27:16 EDT From: "Ruckstuhl, Keith E" To: Subject: Re: Kudos to IBM Service Status: OR I also had a wonderful experience when the 340 Meg HD of my 750 mono started making "weird noises". I called IBM and had a new HD the next day....BUT But, the fact that UPS picks up the old part within a few days wasn't explicit, and they didn't tell me where to send the old drive. I sent it back to the IBM location that sent me the new one- BIG mistake. A rather "difficult" representative called me and _first_ accused me of not returning the drive. Not knowing what was wrong, I asked her to verify. She did indeed have evidence that I had returned the drive, but then claimed that she would have to charge me for it anyway. I indicated that I thought this was stupid, of course (only much more politely :). Then she claimed she would have to charge me because she didn't have record of my proof of purchase. Geez. It was in the box with the drive. I finally faxed a copy, and she didn't have the courtesy to do a followup call indicating that everything was in order. Moral? IBM service is great, but whoever is in charge of "potentially" delinquent accounts needs the same training... Thanks, I'm done venting now ;^) Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 16 21:37:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19149 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 21:37:52 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29151; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 21:49:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 21:49:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29144; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 21:49:26 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA11705 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:49:09 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406170149.AA11705@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: TP750, SCSI, and OS/2 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:49:09 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199406162153.OAA08835@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Jun 16, 94 02:53:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I'll try not to rip on you OS/2 types, but sometimes I can't help > it... Cheap, cheap.... > a PCMCIA to SCSI or parallel to SCSI solution--no driver support. Actually, there is parallel to SCSI support with the base package for the Trantor cable. Timothy Sipples has said that Future Domain has a PCMCIA SCSI card with OS/2 support. I haven't called them to confirm this yet, but if anyone does, let me know. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 01:18:04 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20290 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:18:01 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16117; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:49:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:49:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16105; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:49:31 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id WAA14979; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 22:49:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 22:49:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Martin P. Smith" Subject: Re: Kudos to IBM Service. To: Randal Whittle Cc: Wes Byrne , TP In-Reply-To: <199406162134.OAA06787@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I must add my 2 cents here as well. I stumped the cash for the extra service ( three year on site. ) Well the last month made it all worth while. A week and a half ago my trackpoint failed. I work four blocks from the IBM office and hand carried the machine to them ( time was of the essenece ) within 15 minutes the machine was fixed. Well this was not the end of it. I had to fly to Philadelphia the next day and during the flight the nice gentleman in front of me moves the seat back and lightly touches my screen I think mothing of it shut down the machine to watch the movie. On restarting the machine I find zero display ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!. Anyway IBM come out to my hotel and fix the machine for me. Great service. Kudos must go to IBM and in particular Megan Murphy from the IBM office in Philly. The best 120 bucks I ever spent. Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.COM From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 01:19:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA20342 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:19:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15460; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:39:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:39:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15453; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:39:48 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id WAA12545; Thu, 16 Jun 1994 22:34:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 22:34:39 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199406170534.WAA12545@netcom.com> To: msmith@netcom.com, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR The problem is that SCSI for OS.2 is NOT available. also machines must be compatible with EPP I tried a Xircom adapter with my old Compaq and actually managed to fry data on my hard disk on boot up. It is what has put me off EPP unless REALLY neccesary. Martin Smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 06:29:58 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18012 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 06:29:55 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA11412; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 06:55:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 06:55:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA11396; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 06:55:09 -0400 Received: from aton.abo.fi (aton.abo.fi [130.232.18.1]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with ESMTP id NAA29313 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:55:08 +0300 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by aton.abo.fi (8.6.6.Beta9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id NAA15130 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:54:28 +0300 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:54:28 +0300 Message-Id: <199406171054.NAA15130@aton.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpinen@linus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: There is no 32M for the 755 X-Mailer: Status: OR Hi! There seems to be a general misconception of how the 36M RAM is achieved. The max memory on the 755 is 36 because you can add two types of memory to the machine. You can add 4,8, and 16M IC-DRAM as for the 750. In addition to this you may add either a 4 or a 16 M DIM (to the motherboard). So, 36M = 4M + 16M + 16M and not 36M=4M + 32M. Sorry to dissappoint all you 750 owners (incl. me), antti From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 09:08:21 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03771 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 09:08:18 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23009; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 09:28:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 09:28:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from austin.wireline.slb.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23002; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 09:28:28 -0400 Received: from by austin.wireline.slb.com (4.1/relay.931202a) id AB10349; Fri, 17 Jun 94 08:22:45 CDT Date: Fri, 17 Jun 94 08:22:45 CDT Message-Id: <9406171322.AB10349@austin.wireline.slb.com> X-Sender: byrne@pigpen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen), TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com (Wes Byrne) Subject: Re: There is no 32M for the 755 X-Mailer: Status: OR Kingston sells a 32mbyte internal credit card for the 750. I'll bet this same card will work in the 755. At 01:54 PM 6/17/94 +0300, Antti Kilpinen wrote: >Hi! > >There seems to be a general misconception of how the 36M RAM is achieved. >The max memory on the 755 is 36 because you can add two types of memory to >the machine. You can add 4,8, and 16M IC-DRAM as for the 750. In addition to >this you may add either a 4 or a 16 M DIM (to the motherboard). So, 36M = 4M >+ 16M + 16M and not 36M=4M + 32M. > >Sorry to dissappoint all you 750 owners (incl. me), > >antti > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wes Byrne Schlumberger Austin Systems Center 8311 North FM 620 Road Austin, TX 78726-1300 (512) 331-3411 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 10:21:05 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA18988 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 10:21:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00337; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 10:43:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 10:43:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00330; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 10:43:28 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA18441; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 07:43:20 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id HAA01164; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 07:43:18 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406171443.HAA01164@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives for TP750C and OS/2 To: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 07:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Martin P. Smith" at Jun 16, 94 10:52:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > Ah but try running powerbuilder under windows and a day or two will > have you racing to OS/2. Powerbuilder crashes like crazy and my current > client has a boot cycle on the order of two to thhree minutes. > > Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.COM First of all, I suppose I should admit I don't know what Powerbuilder even *is*, so... :) Mind telling me what Powerbuilder does/is? (On a side note: I've found that most apps that crash a Windows setup a lot tend to do so because of sloppy programming. OS/2 just handles such a program better than Windows does. I'd be more likely to trash such sloppy software in favor of something else than to trash my operating environment for something else--much less drastic.) Second of all, I'll point out that their really aren't a whole lot of OS/2 apps out there. I'm glad its growing larger, but for most of the stuff I run--with the exception of Ami Pro and Freelance Graphics--don't have OS/2 versions. Yes, I know the other stuff runs under Win-OS/2 (I use virtually zero DOS apps--phased 'em out years ago, partly because Windows doesn't run them very well), but IMO, not very well. As for PageMaker and the others that *used* to have OS/2 versions, well--I don't want to step backwards and used version 3.x when PM version 5 is in use. Part of the reason I bought an Intel-based machine and not some Apple Mac was because I wanted a huge selection of apps and a certain compatibility with other people's machines. After going through 3 different incarnations of OS/2, I have realized that Operating Systems/Environments work best with apps that are designed specifically for them. Hence, just like DOS apps pretty much stink under Windows, Windows apps don't work all that well under OS/2. After a few weeks with OS/2 (in each different version--1.3, 2.0, 2.1), I finally realized "What am I doing using OS/2 to run a bunch of Windows apps?" The fact was that OS/2 really *wasn't* "a better Windows than Windows". So for those who have special needs that OS/2's robustness fills, I tip my hat to you--enjoy OS/2--especially if you have lots of OS/2 apps. For everyone else--hey, when you push the edges of computing evolution, you have to expect to blaze a trail. That means you have to scream a lot for more apps and drivers. I just don't enjoy doing that, so I stay in Windows, where the market over the past 3 years has dictated that most apps will be developed and numerous devices and drivers too. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From graff@VNET.IBM.COM Fri Jun 17 11:41:07 1994 Received: from vnet.ibm.com by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11847 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 11:41:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199406171641.AA11847@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Received: from STLVM27 by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8771; Fri, 17 Jun 94 12:40:45 EDT Date: Fri, 17 Jun 94 09:18:23 PDT From: "Michael Graff" To: JOKIM@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu, antti.kilpinen@abo.fi, ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu Subject: Re: Is video on 360 and 755 interchangeable Reply-To: graff@VNET.IBM.COM (Michael Graff) News-Software: UReply 3.1 X-X-From: graff@vnet.ibm.com (Michael Graff) Status: OR In a previous message, you wrote: >One of the members of our TP750 mailing list has an unusual problem. >Perhaps you two can help with some definitive answers. Please reply to >the following addresses: > >antti.kilpinen@abo.fi (The person that asked the question) >ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The person in charge of the TP750 FAQ) >jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu (Me, out of curiousity) > >Thanks! >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >I need a TP with math-co and a mono screen. Since Tp750-mono is discontinued >IBM requires it's customers be more innovative. Actually I want both a >755-mono and a 360Cs (two separate units). Can I (i.e. IBM service) switch >the displays of a 360-mono and a 755Cs?. I think the wideo drivers are >identical for both color and mono models- how about between 360 and 755 >series?. As aresult I would get a 360Cs and a 755-mono. Is anyone on the net >familiar with the low level hardware of the TPs?. First, I wan't to know if >this is technically possible. Second, I must find someone to do the work so >that warranty is not affected) > >My option is to buy a 360Cs and a 360-mono(instead of the 755-mono) and must >suffice w/o math-co. Besides, IBM will loose the price difference of the >combinations. > >Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) >Research Fellow >Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research >Abo Akademi University, DataCity >FIN-20520 Turku >-- >John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like >jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole >This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" According to one of the ThinkPad developers, the 360 display is not upgradable. So that seems to rule out swapping displays between a 360 and a 755. The 750 units haven't been withdrawn yet, so you perhaps can still find a 750 mono. I suspect the 700-series mono units were not big sellers. I recall seeing 720 mono units being closed out by USA Flex in Computer Shopper magazine. Buyers of the 700 series apparently tend to want color. That's probably why there's no 755 mono. The other option, of course, is to "settle" for the 755Cs. It's perhaps 300-400 dollars more expensive than the 750 mono. ...Michael Graff From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 15:39:32 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17032 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:39:29 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29305; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:00:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:00:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29298; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:00:21 -0400 From: Message-Id: <9406172000.AA03801@husc.harvard.edu> Received: by scunix4.harvard.edu (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA01106; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:59:33 -0400 Subject: at&t vs. Mhz To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Cc: chan@husc.harvard.edu (Christopher Chan) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Which is better? The AT&T or theMhz XJ 2114 PCMCIA modem? Anyone haveany experiences? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 16:10:49 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA25814 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:10:44 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02642; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:39:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:39:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02624; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:38:57 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA01791; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:36:50 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:39:23 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <49163.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: ant@cc.uq.oz.au Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Introduction + Sound Card Emulation Question Status: OR In message Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:27:54 +1000 (EST), Anthony Murdoch writes: > On Wed, 15 Jun 1994, John Kim wrote: >> Sean, it looks like you'd better add something to the FAQ about why the >> disks aren't currently available via ftp, and how we're hoping they >> soon will be. > Do tell ? The IBM ftp site (software.watson.ibm.com) is an experimental site. I've talked (well, exchanged mail) with the operator of the site and for him to put IBM software on it, he has to receive it from an IBMer with written authorization for public release via snail mail. The TP750 and its drivers are made by IBM-Japan. I've managed to get those people in touch with the ftp site operator and the software is supposedly on its way. I have no idea when it'll show up though, or how fast updates will make it. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 17:31:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14623 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 17:31:32 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09848; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 18:01:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 18:01:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from technet1.shl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09828; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 18:01:05 -0400 Received: from mm-gw.shl.com by technet1.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA26184; Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:57:05 PDT Received: by mm-gw.shl.com with Microsoft Mail id <2E021D45@mm-gw.shl.com>; Fri, 17 Jun 94 15:01:41 PDT From: NELSON Tim To: "tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750" Subject: RE: at&t vs. Mhz Date: Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:57:00 PDT Message-Id: <2E021D45@mm-gw.shl.com> Encoding: 33 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Status: OR I have a Mhz XJ 1144, and the X-Jack alone made me buy it. I have had IBM, EXP, and non-X-Jack Mhz in the past, and those external telephone connectors thing-a-mies are big enough to annoy me and tend to slip out if I move the computer slightly. I used duct tape to secure the connector on my IBM modem, because if it did not rest perfectly flat, I would hear the noise in the speaker even after connection. But most importantly, since I travel a lot, the X-JACK makes it trivial to connect up to arbitrary phone lines. Most of the time I unplug the wire from the phone in the hotel or customer site, pop the X-Jack right out of the modem, and plug right in! Too simple. TimN P.S. I have not had ANY trouble with my Mhz since I started using the following Rockwell Modem commands in all my communications software: &F&C1&D2&K3&S1&Q5 to put it into error correction/data correction mode. ---------- From: owner-tp750 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750 Cc: chan Subject: at&t vs. Mhz Date: Friday, June 17, 1994 3:59PM Which is better? The AT&T or theMhz XJ 2114 PCMCIA modem? Anyone haveany experiences? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 18:29:07 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22420 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 18:29:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13925; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 19:03:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 19:03:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13917; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 19:03:06 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02436; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:01:17 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:03:54 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <57834.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: games with sound Status: OR In message Thu, 16 Jun 94 16:17:32 EDT, paul@research.att.com (Paul Krzyzanowski) writes: > There's been at least one request for information on getting > Doom [sound] working properly on the thinkpad. I've not succeeded > except in using the pc speaker. I've gotten the music to work, under an OS/2 DOS box. See Randal, OS/2 is good for something! :) -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 18:29:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22431 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 18:29:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13909; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 19:03:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 19:03:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13897; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 19:02:58 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02427; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:00:55 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:03:26 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <57807.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: at&t vs. Mhz Status: OR In message Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:59:32 -0400 (EDT), writes: > Which is better? The AT&T or theMhz XJ 2114 PCMCIA modem? > > Anyone haveany experiences? I've got both. :) I'd say go for the MegaHertz. The XJack thing is just too convenient to pass up. I originally bought an AT&T Keep In Touch modem because the only Megahertz modem available then didn't have a 16550 UART. The KIT worked fine but the LAM (line access module - plugs into the modem and phone jack) sticks out a ways. One day I dropped the computer a short distance and the LAM bent. I managed to bend it back and everything worked fine. Two weeks ago I stepped on the phone line while I was moving the computer. Rather than the LAM pulling out of the modem, it bent again, in the opposite direction. This time some of the metal connectors inside the LAM broke. I called AT&T to order a replacement LAM. They were backordered for at least two months. I couldn't live that long without a modem so I ordered the new Megahertz (XJ2114). It actually seems to work a little better, although that might be because I'd already taken the time to get the Easyplaying PCMCIA drivers working with the AT&T. The biggest plus for the Megahertz is the X-Jack, like I said. It is VERY convenient, and is much sturdier than I imagined. About the only bad thing I have to say about it the Megahertz is the manual doesn't include a complete AT command set. I had to look up the important stuff in the AT&T KIT manual. Megahertz dropped their prices the day I ordered (lucky me) and I was able to get the XJ2114 from Sparco for about $245. On the other hand, if anybody is interested in buying my AT&T modem in a few months (it's waiting for the new cable to come in), I'll accept bids. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 17 20:07:28 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03692 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 17 Jun 1994 20:07:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18709; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 20:40:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 20:40:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18692; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 20:40:47 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id RAA16975; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 17:40:44 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id RAA17930; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 17:40:42 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406180040.RAA17930@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: games with sound To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 17:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <57834.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> from "John Kim" at Jun 17, 94 04:03:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I've gotten the music to work, under an OS/2 DOS box. > > See Randal, OS/2 is good for something! :) >John Kim I'd like to just take a moment to let everyone know--especially you OS/2 types--that I very much respect and admire the efforts that have gone into OS/2, both on the part of IBM programmers and those rabid "Team OS/2" folks who have made it their personal mission to see to it that OS/2 is on every PC. Those of you who are the *real* OS/2 nuts will recognize my last name, but only if it were attached to a first name of "Dave"--yes, we're related. Yes--he's actually my brother. And if you don't think I've heard the best arguments in the world for OS/2 from him, then you are sadly mistaken. As I've said, I've had it installed on my desktop PC 3 different times in 3 different versions (though not on my TP750C), and believe me-- I gave it the hardware requirements it thirsted for (and then some). I *wanted* it to work--I *wanted* a true 32-bit multitasking monster. All I got was a wonderful operating system with few apps and lacking driver support--and I didn't see any reason to run OS/2 just so I could run my Windows apps--Windows did it better. I feel I've given OS/2 a very fair chance to work for me--its just that it always falls short. I've told Sean Chou already that if all the apps I used suddenly popped up with OS/2 versions *tomorrow* (and I could get them for the cost of disks or something)--then I'd switch back again tomorrow. If such an event occurred, then the driver support would follow too. I see OS/2's great potential, but the current reality just isn't as bright as its future. Meanwhile, if OS/2 ever *really* catches on as something besides a niche market, I'll be joining all of you in the future, and I have no doubt it will be *because* of you people's efforts. As for me, I'm just not willing to "blaze the trail" myself (unlike my brother Dave, I don't get paid to do it nor do I get all sorts of free OS/2 apps handed to me because I'm an OS/2 marketing guru)--I've got work to do. :) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 18 00:34:14 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26790 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 18 Jun 1994 00:34:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01169; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:11:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:11:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01162; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:11:12 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA05624; Sat, 18 Jun 94 01:10:57 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 94 01:10:57 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406180510.AA05624@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, byrne@austin.wireline.slb.com Subject: Re: There is no 32M for the 755 Status: OR any price available on the 32M card fro Kingston? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 18 00:38:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27070 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 18 Jun 1994 00:38:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00963; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:08:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:08:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00956; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:08:04 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA05604; Sat, 18 Jun 94 01:07:55 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 94 01:07:55 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406180507.AA05604@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: games with sound Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR can we please avoid OS/2 advocacy stuff on this mailing list, it has very little to do with the TP750. If people want to post this, please post to comp.os.os2.advocacy where it belongs. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 18 01:55:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01717 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:55:01 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04946; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 02:31:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 02:31:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04939; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 02:31:40 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA00588 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:31:24 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406180631.AA00588@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: There is no 32M for the 755 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 01:31:23 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199406171054.NAA15130@aton.abo.fi> from "Antti Kilpinen" at Jun 17, 94 01:54:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > There seems to be a general misconception of how the 36M RAM is achieved. > The max memory on the 755 is 36 because you can add two types of memory to > the machine. You can add 4,8, and 16M IC-DRAM as for the 750. In addition to > this you may add either a 4 or a 16 M DIM (to the motherboard). So, 36M = 4M > + 16M + 16M and not 36M=4M + 32M. > > Sorry to dissappoint all you 750 owners (incl. me), Well, I have good news for you then. There is indeed a 32MB card. It's pricey, but it exists. Kingston makes one. I can show you the message we got from an IBM rep that tells why they originally said 20mb. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:44:43 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00012 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 18 Jun 1994 09:44:41 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29979; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 10:20:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 10:20:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29944; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 10:20:00 -0400 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20734; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 09:14:00 -0500 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA41909; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 09:19:07 -0500 From: gbu@lochness.uhc.com (Gary Udstrand) Message-Id: <9406181419.AA41909@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: 50 vs. 75 Mhz To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 09:19:06 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Status: OR I am ordering a TP755 laptop. I have found 2 different setups that are available to me. One is the TP755C w/540meg HD and a 50Mhz processor, the other is the TP755Cs w/340meg HD and the 75Mhz processor. My question: is the 75Mhz that much faster than the 50 Mhz? I would prefer the larger hard drive and the active matrix screen if the speed difference is not that great. I also understand that the 50 can be upgraded to the 75, does anyone know the cost? TIA -- __ __ | | o | | Gary Udstrand | | \|/ | | AT&T: (612) 945-6523 Advanced Technology, IS&T | \(_)/ | Fax: (612) 945-6502 United HealthCare Corp \_________/ E-Mail: gbu@uhc.com "A sufficiently high level of technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 18 13:35:35 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA22738 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 18 Jun 1994 13:35:33 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09627; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 13:55:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 13:55:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09620; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 13:55:32 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA06075; Sat, 18 Jun 94 13:55:29 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 94 13:55:29 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406181755.AA06075@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: gbu@lochness.uhc.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 50 vs. 75 Mhz Status: OR I would get the TP755C with the 50MHz processor, then down the road you can upgrade to the 100MHz processor when they get to a more reasonable'price point. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 18 16:40:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16568 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 18 Jun 1994 16:40:53 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18615; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 17:11:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 17:11:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18608; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 17:11:13 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA20777; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 14:11:10 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id OAA27236; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 14:11:04 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406182111.OAA27236@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 50 vs. 75 Mhz To: gbu@lochness.uhc.com (Gary Udstrand) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 14:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9406181419.AA41909@lochness.uhc.com> from "Gary Udstrand" at Jun 18, 94 09:19:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > I am ordering a TP755 laptop. I have found 2 different setups that > are available to me. One is the TP755C w/540meg HD and a 50Mhz processor, > the other is the TP755Cs w/340meg HD and the 75Mhz processor. > > My question: is the 75Mhz that much faster than the 50 Mhz? I would > prefer the larger hard drive and the active matrix screen if the speed > difference is not that great. I also understand that the 50 can be upgraded > to the 75, does anyone know the cost? I couldn't tell you exactly, but I *can* say this much: It won't be very cheap, given IBM's history. But at the same time, if you got the faster machine, upgrading to an active-matrix screen or a larger hard drive certainly wouldn't be cheap either (if even possible, in the case of the screen). I'll say this much: If I were you, I'd go for the 50Mhz (unless you have some *real* need for the faster processor), because the screen alone is probably worth it. Also, I don't know very many people that really *need* a 540MB hard drive--the 340 should do you just fine, unless you are trying to carry the entire world with you (you can also use Stacker--that's what I do, since I *am* trying to carry the entire world with me...) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Jun 19 17:00:39 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA26508 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 19 Jun 1994 17:00:36 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07542; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 22:39:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 22:39:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07535; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 22:39:51 -0400 Received: from brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (actually localhost) by brolga.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP (PP); Sun, 19 Jun 1994 12:39:39 +1000 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 12:39:35 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Murdoch Subject: Problem with netware and Thinkpad 750 Audio 1.10 ?? To: TP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hi All, I've come across a rather confusing problem with the Audio Features 1.1 setup. I have a 3c589 PCMCIA ethernet card installed in my TP 750. When I originally got the Thinkpad, I set up drivers to run the 3c589 using NETX, VLM's and Personal Netware. All this worked OK (it was just a bit messy). Having thought of a better way to handle all my different setups and having obtained the later versions of the Video, Audio and general features disks, along with the DOS 6.3 upgrade, I reinstalled the system from scratch. This all went fine until I tried to use the 3c589 card. When I run the 3c589 startnet (NETX or VLM) and log in I cannot run windows - it comes back with the message PROGMAN.EXE causes a General Protection Fault in module IBMMME.DRV at 0005:0078 The strange thing is that I can be connected without it being a problem - it is only when I actually log in that it gives me the error. There doesn't appear to be any conflicts. There weren't any before I reinstalled. It's not even that easy to go back to the old setup. Has anyone experienced this problem ? Any solutions ? I heard there was a version 1.3 of the Audio Features, but couldn't find it on the IBM (Australia) BBS - Does it exist somewhere. Thanks in Advance Signed Desperate :) ant From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 19 17:12:51 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28278 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 19 Jun 1994 17:12:48 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00194; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:41:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:41:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jenner.med.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00182; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:40:59 -0400 From: Received: from warren.med.harvard.edu by jenner.med.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15538; Sun, 19 Jun 94 14:54:47 -0400 Received: from ccMail by warren.med.harvard.edu id AA772063078 Sun, 19 Jun 94 14:57:58 EST Date: Sun, 19 Jun 94 14:57:58 EST Message-Id: <9405197720.AA772063078@warren.med.harvard.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Suggested Pricing on used TP-750C Status: OR What price are people getting for used tp750C notebooks these days? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 19 17:14:03 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28436 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 19 Jun 1994 17:14:01 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01178; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:53:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:53:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01171; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:53:24 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (root@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA25401 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 12:53:16 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA06010 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 08:33:46 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406191533.IAA06010@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: IBM ThinkPad 755Cs, 170MB for Sale in L.A. Times! To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 08:33:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR NOTE: I am not selling this machine, but I saw it this morning in the L.A. Times Classified section and I figure there is probably a bunch of people on this list who would *love* to get this little baby--it looks like a hell of a deal. Heck--if it were only an Active-Matrix Screen, I would have bought it! So here goes: (Copied from the Ad in the Classified section of the L.A. Times:) "IBM ThinkPad 755Cs, 50Mhz, 170MB, in original box, never used. Paid $3985, sell for $2685 OBO. pp 310-288-3501 or 310-508-5458." Now folks--I have no idea who this guy is and I do not endorse it in any way. It just seemed like a *really* good deal and I thought there were a number of people on this list who would like a shot at it. Good luck--and if anyone calls this guy or snags this item, post it to the list and let us know! ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 19 17:14:45 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28520 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 19 Jun 1994 17:14:42 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01274; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:54:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:54:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01244; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:54:17 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id XAA12877; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 23:17:32 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 23:17:32 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199406190617.XAA12877@netcom9.netcom.com> To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: There is no 32M for the 755 Status: OR The misconception is true but the same effect can be applied to the 750 you need to buy a doo-hickey thingy from IBM for $110 then you can get the DIM. I talked to IBM Direct about this exact subject just friday. Martin Smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 19 21:40:52 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10254 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 19 Jun 1994 21:40:50 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23753; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 22:15:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 22:15:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23745; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 22:15:25 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA11494; Sun, 19 Jun 94 22:15:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 94 22:15:10 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406200215.AA11494@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, msmith@netcom.com Subject: Re: There is no 32M for the 755 Status: OR can we understand more about the doo-hickey thingy approach on the 750. one the $110 is spent, how much to the 16 meg "doo-hickey thingy memory modules AKA DIM's" cost, and what are they, and who makes them? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 19 23:06:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24054 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:06:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00886; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:33:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:33:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rigel.LCS.MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00865; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:33:37 -0400 Received: (from wilson@localhost) by rigel.LCS.MIT.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.6) id XAA02575; Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:33:33 -0400 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:33:33 -0400 From: "Wilson J. Chan" Message-Id: <199406200333.XAA02575@rigel.LCS.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: CDPD and TV.... Reply-To: wilson@hing.lcs.mit.edu Address: 545 Technology Square, Room 626, Cambridge, MA 02139 Status: OR Office Phone: (617) 253-6028 Fax: (617) 253-7359 Home Phone: (617) 621-0232 Does anyone have any news on the CDPD and TV expansion modules? Are they available in the U.S. and how much do they cost? Is CDPD available in Boston or S.F. Bay Area? --wilson From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:09:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10126 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 20 Jun 1994 12:09:14 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22446; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 10:23:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 10:23:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22427; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 10:23:11 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 6685; Mon, 20 Jun 94 10:23:11 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 0223; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 10:23:11 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 20 Jun 94 10:23:10 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA22492; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 10:23:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 10:23:08 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9406201423.AA22492@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: success with 3c589!! Status: OR Well, I finally got my 3com card working!! I was having problems getting my PC-NFS software to talk to the card. It turned out that the software was too old of a version to be able to work. I switched to some newer IBM TCP/IP software which supports NDIS drivers. Interestingly, this software is not listed at all on the official 3com supported-software fax list. Although the IBM software doesn't specifically support the 3c589, it does support the 3c509 Etherlink III AT-bus card. I did the install for the 3c509, and then I manually installed the NDIS driver for the 3c589 (came on 3c589 floppy). This involved modifying config.sys and protman.ini to use the ELPC3 driver instead of the ELNK3 driver. I can now do a backup of my TP750 hard drive onto my unix workstation hard drive, just by doing a DOS xcopy. My Megahertz modem operation seems to be unaffected by having the 3com card also installed. I haven't tried to use them both in the same session, actually this is impossible to do: You can't use the Xjack with the Ethernet pigtail also installed, because they physically interfere with each other. I don't know what's up with 3com, but it seems that I never got billed for the 3c589 either!! --andy From shosmer@netcom.com Mon Jun 20 15:02:21 1994 Received: from netcom2.netcom.com by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05326 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:02:17 -0500 Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id NAA29813; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 13:02:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 13:02:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Hosmer Subject: Re: TP750, SCSI, and OS/2 To: Sean Chou Cc: Thinkpad List In-Reply-To: <199406170149.AA11705@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I have called Future Domain, and was told that there are currently no drivers for their PCMCIA to SCSI product. They "may" be working on them. But he could not confirm or deny it. Oh well for now. shosmer@netcom.com On Thu, 16 Jun 1994, Sean Chou wrote: > > I'll try not to rip on you OS/2 types, but sometimes I can't help > > it... > > Cheap, cheap.... > > > a PCMCIA to SCSI or parallel to SCSI solution--no driver support. > > Actually, there is parallel to SCSI support with the base package > for the Trantor cable. Timothy Sipples has said that Future Domain > has a PCMCIA SCSI card with OS/2 support. I haven't called them to > confirm this yet, but if anyone does, let me know. > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 20 16:55:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA10188 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 20 Jun 1994 16:55:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17186; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:20:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:20:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from relay1.UU.NET by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17166; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:20:28 -0400 Received: from objygate.objy.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (rama) id QQwvdk22356; Mon, 20 Jun 1994 15:09:37 -0400 Received: from objy.objy.com by objygate.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22979; Mon, 20 Jun 94 12:02:23 PDT Received: from opus.objy.com by objy.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA08919; Mon, 20 Jun 94 12:10:05 PDT Received: by opus.objy.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05674; Mon, 20 Jun 94 12:08:26 PDT Date: Mon, 20 Jun 94 12:08:26 PDT From: bruce@objy.com (Bruce Reed) Message-Id: <9406201908.AA05674@opus.objy.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: More ATT KIT problems Status: OR Well, after weeks of waiting I finally received my replacement KIT modem from ATT Paradyne. They sent a later version that has the dual pigtail connectors for standard and cellular lines. EasyPlay under DOS and OS/2 recognize the modem first thing. Unfortunately I still can't access the modem. At first I suspected a PCMCIA problem since we recently had our system board replaced by IBM. I ruled this out after I got the modem to work using the ATT supplied DOS drivers. Wierd that it would only work in slot 1, but it was useable. This certainly isn't an optimal situation in my mind. I was happily using the old KIT under DOS/Windows and OS/2 with the IBM drivers and no intervention at all on my part. Basically plug and play. So either ATT has changed the modem to render it incompatible with my version of the IBM drivers or I really do have some sort of system board problem. Anyone have similar experiences with the current version of the KIT? --Bruce From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:06:29 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24318 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 21 Jun 1994 07:06:27 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06378; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 07:22:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 07:22:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from werple.apana.org.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06371; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 07:22:49 -0400 Received: (from guardian@localhost) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.6) id VAA12555; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 21:22:41 +1000 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 21:20:48 +1000 (EST) From: Nick Allan Subject: serial ports on the thinkpad To: thinkpad mailinglist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hello everyone Can anyone tell me if there is another serial port on the thinkpad 750 anywhere. I remember reading something about a com2, something about the floppy drive. Also if there isn't, can anyone tell me the sort of money it costs for a pcmcia serial card. I need a com2. Thanks for any information in advance. Regards Nick Guardian@werple.apana.org.au From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:49:25 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05756 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 21 Jun 1994 08:49:18 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13873; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 09:08:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 09:08:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from VAXC.HOFSTRA.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13837; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 09:08:42 -0400 Received: from baskett.hofstra.edu by vaxc.hofstra.edu (PMDF V4.2-11 #3680) id <01HDSRD1S4009ZMOXX@vaxc.hofstra.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 09:08:11 EDT Received: by baskett.hofstra.edu (931110.SGI) id AA04223; Tue, 21 Jun 94 09:06:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 09:06:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Kendall Chenoweth Subject: Re: serial ports on the thinkpad In-Reply-To: To: Nick Allan Cc: thinkpad mailinglist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: OR correct me if i'm wrong, but you just need the com2 definition port (as opposed to the "real" com2 thing), then can't you use the "assign" dos command. I know there is a dos redirect command for lp and com ports, but I may have the "assign" command mixed up with the VMS environent, which I (unfortunately) also work in... Kendall Kendall Chenoweth, UNIX Coordinator, 516/463-6134, 925-0711 Academic Computing, Hofstra University, Hempstead, NY 11550 "Listen very carefully... I shall say this only once..." Michelle from the Resistance, 'Allo 'Allo From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 21 13:48:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02847 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:48:45 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08398; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:39:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:39:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chx400.switch.ch by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08384; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:39:08 -0400 X400-Received: by mta chx400.switch.ch in /PRMD=Switch/ADMD=Arcom/C=Ch/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 19:38:29 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 19:38:19 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 19:38:15 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 19:38:15 +0200 X400-Originator: solana@cui.unige.ch X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/;940621193815] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 527 Alternate-Recipient: Allowed From: Eduardo Solana Message-Id: <527*/S=solana/OU=cui/O=unige/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> To: "(Bruce Reed)" Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9406201908.AA05674@opus.objy.com> Subject: Re: More ATT KIT problems Status: OR Hi all, >Well, after weeks of waiting I finally received my replacement >KIT modem from ATT Paradyne. They sent a later version that has >the dual pigtail connectors for standard and cellular lines. >EasyPlay under DOS and OS/2 recognize the modem first thing. >Unfortunately I still can't access the modem. > >At first I suspected a PCMCIA problem since we recently had our >system board replaced by IBM. I ruled this out after I got the >modem to work using the ATT supplied DOS drivers. Wierd that it >would only work in slot 1, but it was useable. > >This certainly isn't an optimal situation in my mind. I was >happily using the old KIT under DOS/Windows and OS/2 with the >IBM drivers and no intervention at all on my part. Basically >plug and play. So either ATT has changed the modem to render >it incompatible with my version of the IBM drivers or I really >do have some sort of system board problem. Anyone have similar >experiences with the current version of the KIT? > >--Bruce Actually, I'm experiencing the same problems with this later version of AT&T KIT modem. I was wondering if the drivers contained in the new utilities diskette (which seems to be v1.30) would fix this problem... Nevertheless, I managed to get the modem responding in both OS/2 and DOS with the EasyPlay v1.21 drivers. The (dirty) trick consists on executing the "config" program from the modem diskette with the adequate parameters (slot number,address,port) BEFORE entering your communication software. Obviously, under OS/2 you pass through a DOS window to do this ... Curiously , once you obtain the "Modem is configured" message from "config", the modem will respond normally (and from both slots) to any communication application, regardless if it is OS/2 or DOS, until you shutdown your system. And, I know, it's a weird behaviour but it works. My config : TP750C - 340M HD - 8M RAM, OS/2 2.11 & IBM DOS 6.31 and I'm also looking for good prices for 16Mb RAM cards (Europe or US)... Best ..., Eduardo. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Eduardo Solana University of Geneva eMail: Centre Universitaire d'Informatique X.400: /S=solana/OU=cui/O=unige 24, rue General Dufour /P=switch/A=arcom/C=ch CH-1211 Geneva 4 (Switzerland) Tel: (+41 22) 705 76 41 Fax: (+41 22) 320 29 27 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 21 17:59:42 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01286 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 21 Jun 1994 17:59:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05028; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 18:28:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 18:28:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05016; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 18:27:58 -0400 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17296; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 17:22:00 -0500 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA158322; Tue, 21 Jun 1994 17:27:05 -0500 From: rol@lochness.uhc.com (Roleigh Martin) Message-Id: <9406212227.AA158322@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: Wanted OS/2 on Thinkpad 750 Expert in Minn. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 17:27:05 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Status: OR We're looking for a OS/2 expert in the Minnesota Twin Cities Metro Region to help us port our OS/2 setup from a desktop environment to a Thinkpad 750C environment -- we're encountering Trap 0008 or either Trap 000D/E errors (depending whether we use 2.11 or 2.10 OS/2) on the Thinkpad but not the three desktops that we've been able to successfully port to--two IBM PS/2 computers and one Compaq EISA Deskpro. The software on the machines is all IBM except for the driver for the wireless network adaptor (either NCR Wavelan or Soletek Airlan): IBM OS/2 and IBM TCPIP 2.0 (with or without latest CSD corrections). Let me tell you about our exciting project: we are working on the future of physician charting -- using Pen-Based Computers running MSDOS/Windows with a PCMCIA Wireless Lan network card (for each Doctor in a clinic, say) to be routed to a OS/2 receiver station (one per clinic) that could be (via OS/2 multi-tasking) doing the following functions: * Communicating with the Pen Computers via Broad Band Spectrum networking (wireless) * Communicating with the outside computing world, via TCP/IP to our corporate computers and others on the Internet (UHC has a class B Internet address)--most likely via 28.8 modems and using the TCP/IP SLIP protocol. * Communicating with hard-wired networked locally-based computers via hard-wired LANs--typically Token Ring. * Handling/Servicing CD-ROM access-requests from those in the clinic--there could be a CD-ROM tower connected to the OS/2 server--this might mean the users are communicating to the OS/2 computer via MSLANMAN software or via NFS--this part of the project is not yet done. * Handling print functions by users--this part of the project is not yet done. The expert should be adept at the following components: * OS/2 either version 2.1 or 2.11. * OS/2 TCP/IP 2.0 by IBM. * Thinkpad 750C with docking station, CD-ROM & OS/2 on it. * Troubleshooting Trap 0008 or either Trap 000D/E Errors. * Troubleshooting Hardware Interrupt conflicts. * (Optional) OS/2 IBM Lan Manager software and maybe IBM OS/2 Lan Distance Remote software, OS/2 IBM NFS software, or OS/2 Netware Redirector. We do have a diagnostic utility available---Checkit Pro Deluxe for MS-DOS. Interested OS/2 experts, please reply by email or fax to: Internet ID: rol@uhc.com or 612-945-6502 (fax). Roleigh Martin, Knowledge Engineer, Mail Stop MN06-6130 United HealthCare Corp., 9705 Data Park Drive, Minnetonka MN 55343 612-945-6529 (voice and voicemail). Notice date: 6-21-94 -- | Roleigh Martin, Rt. MN06-6130 Opinions are mine not UHC | | UHC, Advanced Technology AT&T/vmail: (612) 945-6529 | | 9705 Data Park Drive FAX: (612) 945-6502 | | Minnetonka, MN 55343 Email: rol@lochness.uhc.com | | ** B'days are good for health ** | | Statistics show that people with most b'days live the longest | | When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 23 15:48:46 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA01960 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 23 Jun 1994 15:48:44 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09506; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:11:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:11:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09499; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:11:33 -0400 Received: from biophysics.bio.rpi.edu (biophysics.bio.rpi.edu [128.113.8.42]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id QAA20705 for <@rpi.edu:TP750@CS.UTK.EDU>; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:11:29 -0400 Received: by biophysics.bio.rpi.edu (920330.SGI/921111.SGI.AUTO) for @rpi.edu:TP750@CS.UTK.EDU id AA12957; Thu, 23 Jun 94 16:13:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 94 16:13:05 -0400 From: arturo@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu (Arturo J. Morales) Message-Id: <9406232013.AA12957@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Info Status: OR Hi! I should be getting my TP 750Cs in about two weeks (8 megs RAM 170 HD). I had a couple of questions about extras that i'm considering getting: 1- Are 8 megs of RAM god enough for OS/2 2.1? or should i just wait for the new performance version? 2- Can I use the Megahertz XJACK modem and an ETHERNET PCMCIA card at once? (That is can i put the jack in place with the ethernet cable attached) 3- How good are the EPP CDROMS? can one use the onboard sound and at the same time access the CDROM? 4- I heard about an option to increase the total RAM to 36 (or 32) megs, is that assuming one has the 16 meg icdram card in place or can i add memory in both ports (i don't want to lose the money i spent on the 4 meg card if i can expand the memory some other way :) 5- Is the 750Cs processor upgradeable? Thanks in advance... most of these questions are not easy to get answered from the dealers... (PS sorry about the grammar this remote login thing is really annoying) --Art ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Arturo J. Morales | arturo@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu Center For Biophysics and Biochemistry | morala2@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute | Troy, NY ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't Blame Me, I'm Just Confused!!!" From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Jun 24 01:14:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11745 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 01:14:04 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09621; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 00:39:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 00:39:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09614; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 00:39:24 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA14236; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 21:39:15 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id VAA13794; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 21:38:55 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406240438.VAA13794@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Info To: arturo@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu (Arturo J. Morales) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 21:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <9406232013.AA12957@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu> from "Arturo J. Morales" at Jun 23, 94 04:13:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > I should be getting my TP 750Cs in about two weeks (8 megs RAM 170 HD). > > I had a couple of questions about extras that i'm considering getting: > > 1- Are 8 megs of RAM god enough for OS/2 2.1? or should i just wait for > the new performance version? I don't know about the new performance version, but until its released, live in the real world (that is, with the OS/2 that is available now). 8 MB? I would highly suggest you send back the 4MB module and buy a 3rd party module--what you paid for it will get you twice the memory elsewhere. 8 MB RAM is barely adequate for OS/2--but you won't be happy with it. Better to figure on an 8 MB card and work with 12MB minimum, or as most of the OS/2 types here have chosen to do--get a 16MB card. > 2- Can I use the Megahertz XJACK modem and an ETHERNET PCMCIA card at once? > (That is can i put the jack in place with the ethernet cable attached) Reports have more or less said "no". > 3- How good are the EPP CDROMS? can one use the onboard sound and at the > same time access the CDROM? Can't help your here--I have no clue. > 4- I heard about an option to increase the total RAM to 36 (or 32) megs, > is that assuming one has the 16 meg icdram card in place or can i add > memory in both ports (i don't want to lose the money i spent on the > 4 meg card if i can expand the memory some other way :) There is some doohicky available for $100 to $150 from IBM which enables this to be done, or maybe the 32MB module soon available from Kingston will do it. > 5- Is the 750Cs processor upgradeable? No. If that's what you're interested in, you should buy the 755 series. In fact, I'm surprised that anyone buying a new 750-series ThinkPad *didn't* buy the 755! > Thanks in advance... most of these questions are not easy to > get answered from the dealers... We try... :) > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Arturo J. Morales | arturo@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu > Center For Biophysics and Biochemistry | morala2@rpi.edu > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute | Troy, NY > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RPI! I spent 2 months in Troy/Cohoes and also 3 months in Schenectady. I kinda like the Tri-City area. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:15:52 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11080 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 07:15:49 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11918; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 07:29:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 07:29:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11911; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 07:29:54 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA06492; Fri, 24 Jun 94 07:29:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 94 07:29:52 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406241129.AA06492@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: arturo@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: Info Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR I asked this before, but no answer ... if you get the doohicky from IBM to allow two 16MB thingys to be installed, what exactly are the 16MB thingys, how much do they cost, and where can you get them? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:14:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08070 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 10:14:23 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25485; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 10:21:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 10:21:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25473; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 10:21:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199406241421.KAA25473@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 94 10:19:55 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Subject: Re: Info To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR >I asked this before, but no answer ... >if you get the doohicky from IBM to allow two 16MB thingys to be installed, >what exactly are the 16MB thingys, how much do they cost, and where can you >get them? The following is part of IBM announcements for ThinkPad755C/Cs. Hope these help. ......< stuff cut >........................... New Options and Accessories Part 750C/ 755C/ Number Description 750 Cs/Ce 755Cs 84G2148 Wall Mount Adapter (40W) Y Y Y 84G2150 540 MB Hard Disk Drive - AT Y Y Y 84G2151 Memory Module Adapter N N Y 84G2152 4MB Memory Module N N Y 84G2153 16MB Memory Module N N Y 84G2154 75MHz Processor Upgrade Kit N N Y 2397542 75MHz Processor Upgrade N N Y 66G7870 Microphone Kit Y Y Y 84G2524 Space Saver Keyboard (Black) Y Y Y 84G2533 ThinkPad Numeric Keypad (Black) Y Y Y 66G0108 ThinkPad 2.88MB Diskette Drive N N Y Existing Options and Accessories Part 750/755 Number Description Family 360 360Cs 49G2165 AC Adapter (40W) Y Y Y 66G2846 750 NiMH Battery Y Y Y 66G2843 750 Quick Charger Y Y Y 66G2847 170 MB Hard Disk Drive - AT Y Y Y 66G2849 340 MB Hard Disk Drive - AT Y Y Y 66G5109 16MB IC DRAM Y Y Y 66G3510 Port Replicator Model I Y Y Y 66G3520 Port Replicator Model II Y Y Y 66G3541 AC Adapter (50W) Y Y Y 66G3689 750 TV Tuner Pack (4) N N 71G2560 CDPD Communications Module (5) Y Y 66G3618 FDD External Attachment Kit Y Y Y 66G3686 Battery Safety Cover Y Y Y 66G3685 Keyguard Y Y Y 66G3684 Security Base Y Y Y 66G3687 Untethered Stylus (6) N N 53G9720 ThinkPad Dock I Y Y Y 66G3539 Display Stand Y Y Y 66G3536 Internal CD-ROM Kit Y Y Y 66G3535 ThinkPad Hard Disk Drive Installation Kit Y Y Y 66G3537 Analog-to-Digital Video Adapter (4) N N 66G3538 Internal SCSI Device Kit Y Y Y 66G3540 Audio Cable Y Y Y 66G3585 Carrying Case (Large - Dock I) Y Y Y 66G3341 AC Adapter 50W (See note below) Y Y Y 49G2167 Car Lighter Adapter Y Y Y 07G1419 2MB IC DRAM Y Y Y 07G1420 4MB IC DRAM Y Y Y 07G1421 8MB IC DRAM Y Y Y 07G0033 Miniature Mouse Y Y Y 07G0032 Numeric Keypad Y Y Y 54G0441 Keyboard/Mouse connect Y Y Y 59G7970 Universal Carrying Case Y Y Y 0933315 3270 Emulation (PCMCIA) Y Y Y 0933462 Token-Ring 16/4 (PCMCIA) Y Y Y 0933290 Ethernet 10 base t (PCMCIA) Y Y Y 0933280 Ethernet 10 base 2 (PCMCIA) Y Y Y 70G7344 5MB Solid State File Y Y Y 70G7345 10MB Solid State File Y Y Y 70G7346 15MB Solid State File Y Y Y 42G2581 Data/Fax Modem (PCMCIA) Y Y Y 42G2582 14.4 Data/Fax Modem (PCMCIA) Y Y Y 84G5689 4MB IC DRAM Card (non-parity) Y (7) Y Y 84G5692 8MB IC DRAM Card (non-parity) Y (7) Y Y 84G5695 16MB IC DRAM Card (non-parity) Y (7) Y Y 87G9029 IBM PCMCIA Audio Adapter Y (8) Y Y Note: The 50W AC adapter is required when the system is fully configured with Port Replicator Model I, PCMCIA cards and a wireless communication optional feature. (4) Supported on the 750C/755C TFT models only. (5) Not supported on the 750 PEN models. (6) For PEN models only. (7) Non-parity memory. The 750/755 family must have the setting changed in setup to non-parity memory. (8) Refer to the Limitations section. ......< stuff cut >........................... CHARGES Optional Features for 755C/755Cs Feature Part Purchase Description Number Number Price IBM ThinkPad Travel (Wall Mount) AC Adapter 0610 84G2148 $ 85 540MB Hard Disk-AT(15) 0607 84G2150 1,399 810MB Hard Disk-AT 2633 84G8250 1,985 Memory Module Adapter 1858 84G2151 105 4MB Memory Module 1860 84G2152 345 16MB Memory Module 1861 84G2153 1,745 75MHz Processor Kit(16) 1862 84G2154 N/A 75MHz Processor Kit(17) None 2397542 1,075 Microphone Kit 2426 66G7870 49 Space Saver Keyboard(18) 2298 84G2524 155 Numeric Keypad-Black 2299 84G2533 55 2.88MB Diskette Drive 2588 66G0108 165 (15) IBM ThinkPad 540MB Hard Disk can be used in the 755C/755Cs/750/ 750C/750Cs/750P and 750Ce systems (16) Upgrade Kit only -- Requires installation by IBM-trained service personnel. Installation charges may apply. (17) ThinkPad EasyServ only -- installation included. (U.S. only) Available through IBM PC Direct only. Call 800-IBM-2YOU (426-2968) to order. (18) Refer to Hardware Announcement 193-346, for technical details. This keyboard is the same except for the color. ......< stuff cut >........................... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:11:54 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28807 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:11:46 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09772; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:35:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:35:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09713; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:35:04 -0400 Subject: Questions from a new 360Cs owner To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:34:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Tyhurst X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9406241334.aa16778@dogmead.excelsior.com> Status: OR Hi all, I've recently acquired a Thinkpad 360Cs. For those who don't know, the 360 series is sort of an "economy" version of the 750 line. The 360s use the same case design (with removable devices) and share many peripherals with the 750 line. The main differences are the processor (486SX-33 SL), no built-in audio, no parity memory, and no "smart" battery on the 360s. Hm, there's probably another one or two minor things I've forgotten. Hopefully this is close enough to the spirit of the 750 series to allow questions in this forum! At any rate, my 360Cs is still minimally configured, with only 4 megs/170 meg disk. Accordingly, I'm still running DOS/Windows, but after upgrading, I hope to experiment with OS/2, SCO Unix or (maybe?) NeXTStep. I do have a 3COM 3C589 PCMCIA Ethernet card for the unit, which seems to work just fine (I'm using Beame and Whiteside's TCP/IP and NFS software, maybe Windows for Workgroups soon). Some general questions: 1 - Is there a source for the removable hard disk case? Will IBM sell them without a disk inside? Or do I have to buy IBM disks for the unit? 2 - Does anybody know if third party memory is available for the 360 yet? I understand that 750 memory will work, but if I don't need the parity bits... 3 - Battery life: what's the accepted wisdom for care of the nickel hydride battery? Is it better to fully discharge the battery before recharging it, or is better to keep it "topped up"? 4 - Has anybody tried NeXTStep on a Thinkpad? Many thanks for any light folks might shed on these questions. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 14:35:30 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21918 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 14:35:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16055; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:05:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:05:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16037; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:05:12 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id MAA06858; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 12:05:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 12:05:11 -0700 From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Message-Id: <199406241905.MAA06858@netcom5.netcom.com> To: arturo@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu, dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: Info Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR The 16 Megs are DIM chips ( whatever they are. ) I seem to remeber that you could keep your existing 16Meg card if you had one and add a 16Meg DIM ( VERY VERY EXPENSIVE ) They can be bought from IBM PC Direct . 1-800-IBM-2-YOU. Sorry about the lack of response last time but I am in the middle of drop dead deliverables for a new client. MArtin P. smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 15:16:40 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA03053 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:16:37 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18343; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:38:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:38:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18298; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:38:21 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA09286; Fri, 24 Jun 94 15:38:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 94 15:38:19 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406241938.AA09286@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: arturo@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu, dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU, msmith@netcom.com, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: Info Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR the DIM chips cost about $1750 from IBM for 16 meg!!!! anyone know if there are third party sources? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 16:21:18 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21080 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 16:21:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22794; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 16:43:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 16:43:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chs.claremont.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22760; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 16:43:31 -0400 Received: by chs.claremont.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA01146; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:40:48 -0700 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:43:39 -0800 (PST) From: "John Kim" Sender: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Reply-To: jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu Message-Id: <49420.jokim@chs.cusd.claremont.edu> To: tim@excelsior.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Questions from a new 360Cs owner Status: OR In message Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:34:44 -0400 (EDT), Tim Tyhurst writes: > 1 - Is there a source for the removable hard disk case? Will IBM sell them > without a disk inside? Or do I have to buy IBM disks for the unit? NO. NO. Yes. I've asked tech support, product information, IBM parts numbers, and a couple other IBM insiders. Finally I got an answer from TP750 development - IBM does not sell the case by itself to discourage people from using 3rd party hard drives. If a 3rd party hard drive draws too much current and blows the fuse on your TP, your 3 year warranty is VOID. Personally I'd rather they let me decide if I want to risk it or not. -- John H. Kim | "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@jarthur.cs.hmc.edu | 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole This mail sent by NUPop | on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 18:23:27 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA15033 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 18:23:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01073; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 18:56:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 18:56:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01060; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 18:56:30 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA25598; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:30:41 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA05950; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:30:38 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406242230.PAA05950@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Questions from a new 360Cs owner To: tim@excelsior.com (Tim Tyhurst) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9406241334.aa16778@dogmead.excelsior.com> from "Tim Tyhurst" at Jun 24, 94 01:34:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > 1 - Is there a source for the removable hard disk case? Will IBM sell them > without a disk inside? Or do I have to buy IBM disks for the unit? > Nope--many have tried, none have succeeded. Although in the ThinkPad FAQ put together by Sean Chou, there is a mention of somebody having a 200- something MB Maxtor drive successfully installed in their ThinkPad 750 series--but he bought it used that way and doesn't know how it was done! I am very much surprised that some company out there hasn't duplicated the 750-series hard drives and casing and marketed them. After all, we can by 3rd party memory, can't we? Why not 3rd party drives? Or 3rd party batteries? I am quite annoyed by these facts... > 2 - Does anybody know if third party memory is available for the 360 yet? I > understand that 750 memory will work, but if I don't need the parity > bits... I don't know that the cost is appreciably different. But yeah--there is plenty of 3rd party memory for the 700 series. > 3 - Battery life: what's the accepted wisdom for care of the nickel hydride > battery? Is it better to fully discharge the battery before recharging > it, or is better to keep it "topped up"? For the most part, NiMH batteries are mostly like NiCD's. Hydrides just happen to last about twice as long as Ni-Cads (per volume unit in size). Differences? Well...for one thing, Hydride batteries don't hold their charge for as long (while sitting unused) as do NiCads. In fact, they can lose 10 to 20% of their charge overnight and be just plain discharged completely in a matter of a few days. In this sense, NiCads fare much better. But like NiCads, Hydrides can also suffer from the same kind of "memory effect". Luckily, its just not quite as bad--the Hydride is not quite as susceptible to the memory effect and it is easier to "re-train" it *out* of the memory effect than a NiCad. So the answer to your question is Yes--it is generally better to do as complete a discharge as you can on your Hydride battery, but you don't have to be completely anal about it or worry about it constantly the way one might with a NiCad. I make it a point to use the "fuel" program (I don't know if your 360 has this or not) to do a discharge cycle of the battery once per month or once every couple of weeks, depending on usage. That's plenty. It requires a little more if you are breaking in a new battery or resurrecting one that has not been in use for a while (I alternate between 2 batteries and since I have not had to use battery time very often lately, I usually use one battery all month, then completely discharge it for storage and switch to another battery--which requires a couple of charge cycles to figure out where it stands again.). > 4 - Has anybody tried NeXTStep on a Thinkpad? I didn't even know the NeXT OS was available to run on Intel chips! ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 18:35:11 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA16402 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 18:35:09 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01610; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 19:11:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 19:11:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01600; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 19:11:20 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA10988; Fri, 24 Jun 94 19:11:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 94 19:11:15 -0400 From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9406242311.AA10988@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tim@excelsior.com, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: Questions from a new 360Cs owner Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR "I didn't even know the NeXT OS was available to run on Intel chips!" This is in fact essentially the only target for NeXT OS these days, now that the NeXT machines are memory! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 24 21:46:22 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05834 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 24 Jun 1994 21:46:16 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12488; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 22:22:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 22:22:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12481; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 22:22:21 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id TAA04269; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 19:22:19 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.7+ucs) id TAA20907; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 19:22:17 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199406250222.TAA20907@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: NeXT To: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 19:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9406242311.AA10988@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at Jun 24, 94 07:11:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > "I didn't even know the NeXT OS was available to run on Intel chips!" > > This is in fact essentially the only target for NeXT OS these days, now that > the NeXT machines are memory! Hmph! Too bad--I liked the idea of display PostScript... ----- Randy Whittle whittle@chaph.usc.edu University of Southern California School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) - Motorcycle nut, HP 48GX & 100LX user, & lover of fine chocolate... "It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept!" -Calvin "Consensus is the negation of leadership." - Margaret Thatcher From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 25 03:10:19 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28592 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 25 Jun 1994 03:10:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00697; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 03:45:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 03:45:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nef.ens.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00678; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 03:45:24 -0400 From: Received: from anis.ens.fr by nef.ens.fr (5.65c8/ULM-1.0) Id AA18694 ; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 09:44:40 +0200 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 94 09:44:39 +0200 Message-Id: <9406250744.AA22941@anis.ens.fr> To: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: NeXT Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR NeXT machines are no longer there, only if you think of NeXT as the old black boxes, like mine. They are, otherwise, pretty well there on PC's, HP and soon on Sparc and DEC alpha (the old enemies of NeXT turned out to be its best friends: maybe they started to worry about the possibility that vaporware like Cairo, Taligent etc could not be too late to market to be viable, while NEXTSTEP has reached its release 3.2 and hase a large installed basis and enthusiastic users) You have a Canon machine (Pentium 90 double processor) built in the old NeXT factory, and you have NeXT portables also: NSP sells them and I own one. You have display postscript on your PC, even portable, and now an 8-bit color driver for portables after NextExpo. I am pretty happy with my portable, but NSP is designing a new one, with plenty of features to be a real workstation on the road (see them at nsp@world.std.com). And, ... no... apparently NEXTSTEP will not run on a thinkpad, since the TP is really built to be an IBM proprietary DOS/Windows or OS/2 or SCO machine, not an open one, so you need IBM support to have an OS running on it... --Roberto From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 25 05:34:31 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA17532 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 25 Jun 1994 05:34:29 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14013; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 06:12:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 06:12:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc7.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14006; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 06:12:42 -0400 From: Message-Id: <9406251012.AA16886@husc7.harvard.edu> Subject: dock II available To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 06:12:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Dock II available for TP 360/750/755 series... 2 PCMCIA slots 2 ISA slots 2 bays for either IDE or SCSI drives SCSI port internal stereo speakers $720 retail... have fun P.S. available NOW... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 25 10:33:33 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA28796 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 25 Jun 1994 10:33:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29491; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 11:11:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 11:11:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from top.cis.syr.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29484; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 11:11:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199406251511.LAA29484@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 94 11:06:18 EDT From: yetseng@top.cis.syr.edu Subject: Dock I & II To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Status: OR Could someone summerize the difference between Dock I and II ? Thanx! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 25 19:39:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29716 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 25 Jun 1994 19:39:48 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27543; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 20:15:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 20:15:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ids.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27530; Sat, 25 Jun 1994 20:15:04 -0400 From: Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 20:14:46 -0400 (EDT) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <940625201446.a733@ids.net> Status: OR Anyone know if the screen on the Thinkpad 755Cs is upgradable to the 10.3" TFT screen? Also, is it true that the sound chip on the TP 755Cs is more soundblaster compatible then on the 750's? Sorry about the lack of Subject, I messed up. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 26 16:32:15 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA21723 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 26 Jun 1994 16:32:13 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08949; Sun, 26 Jun 1994 17:08:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 26 Jun 1994 17:08:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08942; Sun, 26 Jun 1994 17:08:52 -0400 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA17383; Sun, 26 Jun 94 14:08:27 PDT Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10805; Sun, 26 Jun 94 14:08:39 PDT Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02366; Sun, 26 Jun 1994 14:08:05 +0800 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 14:08:05 +0800 From: Bob.Page@eng.sun.com (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9406262108.AA02366@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Info In-Reply-To: <199406240438.VAA13794@aludra.usc.edu> References: <9406232013.AA12957@biophysics.bio.rpi.edu> <199406240438.VAA13794@aludra.usc.edu> Status: OR > Can I use the Megahertz XJACK modem and an ETHERNET PCMCIA card at once? You can use both if you remove the pcmcia slot cover, so the cards have more play in them. I'll leave it to you to decide if it is worth doing, given that you could wreck your cards. If you need to use both together for extended periods of time, I'd suggest you use a modem card other than the XJack. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 27 02:51:56 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04559 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 02:51:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14564; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 03:27:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 03:27:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14557; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 03:27:06 -0400 Received: from localhost by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id AA24027 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 17:26:51 +1000 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 17:26:43 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: TP360 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9406262108.AA02366@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I apologise for sending this to the 750 list but I imagine this is where the most expertise is. My girlfriend has a 750 with which she is very pleased, and I am looking to buy a laptop. I am considering two currently: the Thinkpad 360 and Toshiba 1910. I'd just likke to know a few of the technical specs of the 360. I'm looking at an SL33, Monochrome, 200MB HDD, 8MB Ram. (a) can the processor on the 360 be upgraded (ie. not hardwired) (b) what is the video resolution on the external monitor is it 1MB video ram? (c) will the UART on the serial port supportreliable 14.400 file transfers? (d) are the screen, disk and memory user upgradeable? (e) are the power management / power monitoring features the same? (f) is the case / keyboard / disk etc. identical between 750/360 models? Thanks, and if there is a relevant newsgroup (other than comp.sys.laptops) please let me know. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 27 16:31:06 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA27134 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 16:31:02 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23671; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 16:54:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 16:54:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23660; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 16:54:22 -0400 Subject: Re: TP360 To: Rohan Davidson Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 16:53:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Tyhurst Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Rohan Davidson" at Jun 27, 94 05:26:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9406271654.aa00728@dogmead.excelsior.com> Status: OR > My girlfriend has a 750 with which she is very pleased, and I am looking > to buy a laptop. I am considering two currently: the Thinkpad 360 and > Toshiba 1910. I'd just likke to know a few of the technical specs of the > 360. > > I'm looking at an SL33, Monochrome, 200MB HDD, 8MB Ram. I've only seen the 360 offered with a 170MB HDD. > (a) can the processor on the 360 be upgraded (ie. not hardwired) No. It's an SL enhanced 486SX-33. No hardware floating point :-(. > (b) what is the video resolution on the external monitor > is it 1MB video ram? 1024x768x256; yes, 1MB video RAM. Uses the WD90C24 chipset, I think. > (c) will the UART on the serial port supportreliable 14.400 file transfers? Apparently the serial port UART is a 16550 (or compatible). I haven't tried file transfers. > (d) are the screen, disk and memory user upgradeable? I don't think the screen is. Both the disk and disk and memory are, although from what I can tell you'll have to buy an IBM disk drive. > (e) are the power management / power monitoring features the same? The 360 doesn't have a "smart" battery, which means you only get rough estimates on remaining battery life. The fueldos program seems to provide four levels of power: 100%, 80-20% remaining, 10% or critically low. If you use a 750 style battery I think you get better information. Other than that, I believe the power features are the same. > (f) is the case / keyboard / disk etc. identical between 750/360 models? As far as I can tell, yes. Certainly the disk drives are interchangeable, and the 360 has the same flipup keyboard. The 360 can use many of the same peripherals (like docking bays and port replicators) as the 750 series. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 27 23:21:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12919 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:21:48 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18535; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:46:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:46:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18520; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:46:41 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA07162 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:46:24 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406280346.AA07162@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: 360's and 755's To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:46:22 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I presume that there will be more and more talk of the 360's and 755's on this list. I, for one, welcome it since they will be sharing many of the same problems that we 750 owners have found. However, I don't have one so I can't expand the FAQ to cover them so any volunteers to help out with 360 and 755 stuff? Also, another reason to welcome the 360 and 755 owners is for the numbers. With an expanded Thinkpad list, we could start off an alt.thinkpad newsgroup and perhaps even seriously discuss a comp newsgroup again (our numbers were still waay too small last time). Any comments? -Sean Chou From cs322612@mailbox.uq.oz.au Mon Jun 27 23:29:47 1994 Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA14230 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:29:43 -0500 Received: from localhost by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au with SMTP id AA04777 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 28 Jun 1994 14:29:58 +1000 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 14:29:50 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: Re: TP360 To: Sean Chou In-Reply-To: <199406280324.AA03608@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Thanks for the info on the TP360. I appreciate your time -Rohan From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 27 23:21:50 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA12919 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:21:48 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18535; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:46:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:46:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18520; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:46:41 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA07162 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:46:24 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199406280346.AA07162@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: 360's and 755's To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:46:22 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR I presume that there will be more and more talk of the 360's and 755's on this list. I, for one, welcome it since they will be sharing many of the same problems that we 750 owners have found. However, I don't have one so I can't expand the FAQ to cover them so any volunteers to help out with 360 and 755 stuff? Also, another reason to welcome the 360 and 755 owners is for the numbers. With an expanded Thinkpad list, we could start off an alt.thinkpad newsgroup and perhaps even seriously discuss a comp newsgroup again (our numbers were still waay too small last time). Any comments? -Sean Chou From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 28 08:41:18 1994 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02114 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 28 Jun 1994 08:41:16 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23684; Tue, 28 Jun 1994 09:08:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Jun 1994 09:08:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ids.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23677; Tue, 28 Jun 1994 09:08:34 -0400 From: Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 9:08:12 -0400 (EDT) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <940628090812.128a3@ids.net> Subject: Batteries Status: OR I'm on the verge of buying a 755Cs (I change my mind daily) and I have another question. As far as I have been told the difference between the batteries on the TP 755 and the 360 is that the 755's are "smart" and can tell more precisely what the status of the battery is. My question is if I can forgo being able to tell when the battery dies and use the cheaper "stupid" batteries in the 755. Jeff