From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 04:28:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19545; Mon, 27 Feb 95 04:28:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00512; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 04:21:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 04:21:53 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00466; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 04:21:46 -0500 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 09:36:32 +0100 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Mon, 27 Feb 95 09:36:30 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Feb 95 09:36:30 +0100 Message-Id: <9502270836.AA11060@octave.chorus.fr> To: macd@panix.com Subject: Re: Linux/X-Windows on a 755ce Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Hello Michael, I have a ThinkPad 360CSE 4/340Mb, I have succesfully installed Linux from Slackware distribution disk. Although, it requires a specific kernel because of the floppy and hdd. The floppy patch can be activated from the LILO command line prompt. But the HD, must be compiled. If you are insterested I can give you a kernel image. Now concerning X-window, you have got a TFT screen, so you should have less problems. I ran XFree-2.1 with no problem, but I need to use a patched version because of the way double scan video memory is organized. I do not have an internal MWave modem, so I can't comment out that part. Before installing Linux, I made some test with FreeBSD-2.0. It runs nicely if you have a patched kernel version (yes, one more patch) because of a keyboard problem. I also have a bootable diskimage for this one, if you want ? Regards, -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 10:53:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10798; Mon, 27 Feb 95 10:53:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05019; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:40:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:40:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05010; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:40:35 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id KAA26786; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:37:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199502271537.KAA26786@wilma.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: ADMIN: apology/explanation/corrective-action Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: moore@CS.UTK.EDU From: Keith Moore Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:37:16 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Apology: I apologize for the duplicated messages which were sent to the tp750 list, and for whatever loss of service you suffered as a result. I attempt to make my mailing lists robust and reasonably immune to catastrophe, but this time it fell short of that goal. Explanation: The massive dumping of duplicate messages to the tp750 list was caused by a criminally brain-damaged mail gateway used by three of the recipients of the list. For every mail message sent to the list, the gateway was generating three separate bounce messages to the list owner (that's me). In addition, the gateway was sending the entire message back to the list. Our log files show a total of 1854 errant messages sent by that gateway before it was stopped. It took a long time to find the problem because of the tremendous traffic load which caused: our mail server to run out of swap space (thus slowing down local delivery), and my postmaster mailbox to run out of disk space (which also caused delivery failure to my tp750 mailbox). I spent quite some time attempting to clean up those problems before I realized that the tp750 list was also getting flooded. At that point I shut down our entire mail system, and spent several hours flushing all of the messages which were queued for the list, and devising a way to turn things back on again without causing another loop. All in all it took a total of about 8 hours from the time I noticed the problem until I was able to turn things back on. What makes this even more annoying (to me) is that I have contacted this site several times to warn them that their mail gateway software was likely to cause just this kind of problem, and urging them to get their software fixed. They never even bothered to reply. (In the future, I will immediately remove any site whose mail software demonstrates the same bugs as this one.) Corrective action: 1) the recipients have been permanently removed from the tp750 list 2) the mail server at cs.utk.edu now has a "dead end" route installed so that it cannot talk to the mailer that caused the problem. (the other end will always see "connection timed out"). Other actions (technical and otherwise) are being considered. Suggestions for retaliation are welcomed. Keith Moore postmaster@cs.utk.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 13:57:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21665; Mon, 27 Feb 95 13:57:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21827; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 13:43:04 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 13:43:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom19.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21807; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 13:42:59 -0500 Received: by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id KAA26343; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:42:38 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:42:38 -0800 From: wyman@netcom.com (Wyman Chong) Message-Id: <199502271842.KAA26343@netcom19.netcom.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Mwave on a system with more than 16MB. Hi, I heard that the DSP will not work a a TP755CE with more than 16MB. Is this true? If so, are there any workarounds? Thanks. Wyman From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 14:16:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22748; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:16:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22546; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 13:51:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 13:51:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub-gate.UB.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22536; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 13:51:50 -0500 Received: from garfield (garfield.UB.com) by ub-gate.UB.com (4.1/SMI-4.1[UB-1.9.1]) id AA24991; Mon, 27 Feb 95 10:51:17 PST Received: from smtp.UB.com ([128.203.7.39]) by garfield (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08422; Mon, 27 Feb 95 10:51:00 PST Received: by smtp.UB.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.0)/1.2) id AA1438; Mon, 27 Feb 95 10:52:55 -0800 Message-Id: <9502271852.AA1438@smtp.UB.com> Received: from UB with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 603E1AC52DC4F40485256170006797DC; Mon, 27 Feb 95 10:52:54 To: tp750 From: Ken Yee/UB Networks Date: 27 Feb 95 13:51:59 EDT Subject: FYI: IBM's New Notebook Computer Has Larger Screen, Keyboard>IBM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain To: cc: (bcc: Tandem 2nd Class Mail) From: nobody @ tandem.com @ SMTP Date: 02/23/95 08:35:37 PM Subject: IBM's New Notebook Computer Has Larger Screen, Keyboard>IBM NEW YORK -AP- International Business Machines Corp. (IBM) next month will begin selling a small portable computer with a large screen and a unique keyboard that slides to full size when the machine is opened. The machine, called the ThinkPad 701C, solves two major complaints - tiny screens and cramped keys - about devices known as subnotebook computers. The product is strategically important to IBM since its PC operation has been mired in difficulties. IBM, which had led the industry in PC sales since the mid-1980s, fell behind three other companies last year and, some analysts estimate, lost $1 billion in that business. Notebook computers have been profitable for the company but, until recently, IBM had trouble meeting demand for them. Subnotebooks are defined as computers that weigh less than four pounds. To reach that size, computer makers previously have shrunk the keys and kept screens tiny. But on the new IBM computer, an 11.5-inch keyboard has been made to fit on a machine that is only 9.5 inches long. When the lid is lifted, a series of levers and arms slide the left half of the keyboard to the left and the right half down and to the right until they fit together. ''If you're someone who likes watching the gears of a watch turn, you'll love this thing,'' said Brian Nadel, senior editor of PC Magazine, which put the machine on the cover of its current issue. The new IBM machine also has a screen with a 10.4-inch diagonal measurement, compared with a 7-inch screen on earlier models. IBM has priced the machine at a premium, however. A ThinkPad 701C with a 486 chip running at 50 MHz and a 540 megabyte hard drive is expected to cost $5,000 when it goes on sale March 7. IBM today declined to confirm details about the product or release photos of it, despite the coverage in PC Magazine and other industry publications. Spokesman Mike Corrado said IBM executives do not want to ruin splashy rollout plans for March 7. 3:10 PM Attachments: None From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 14:23:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22925; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:23:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23782; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:09:05 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:09:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23772; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:09:01 -0500 From: Received: from MILANESE.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA16223; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:08:12 EST Received: by milanese.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA09497; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:08:06 -0500 Message-Id: <9502271908.AA09497@milanese.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Found cheaper hd upgrade. Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:08:02 EST I just bought a 750c with 170 hard drive last week and wanted to get a 340. The first place I called out of Computer Shopper had the thinkpad 340M IBM drives for $349. (Indus Group 1-800-644-6387). I ordered one. It appears to be brand new complete with all the software normally installed on a 755c. I have sinced reformatted the whole thing and installed Linux and am quite happy with it. Bill Daughton -------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 14:26:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23410; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:26:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23497; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:05:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:05:30 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub-gate.UB.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23480; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:05:26 -0500 Received: from garfield (garfield.UB.com) by ub-gate.UB.com (4.1/SMI-4.1[UB-1.9.1]) id AA25924; Mon, 27 Feb 95 11:04:53 PST Received: from smtp.UB.com ([128.203.7.39]) by garfield (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08629; Mon, 27 Feb 95 11:04:37 PST Received: by smtp.UB.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.0)/1.2) id AA1593; Mon, 27 Feb 95 11:06:32 -0800 Message-Id: <9502271906.AA1593@smtp.UB.com> Received: from UB with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 378141CE7AE1228A852561700068CC6A; Mon, 27 Feb 95 11:06:32 To: tp750 From: Ken Yee/UB Networks Date: 27 Feb 95 14:04:47 EDT Subject: IBM READY WITH TWO INNOVATIVE THINKPAD MODELS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain To: cc: (bcc: Tandem 2nd Class Mail) From: nobody @ tandem.com @ SMTP Date: 02/27/95 08:03:22 PM Subject: IBM READY WITH TWO INNOVATIVE THINKPAD MODELS IBM Corp's increasingly embattled Personal Computer Co hits back at its critics next month with a couple of new product lines it hopes will get it back into the game. The announcement will include new Thinkpads and new multiprocessor servers. The new ThinkPad 701C or butterfly is attracting some attention because it has a keyboard that opens up to full size when the machine is opened, and the design enables it to accommodate a larger screen as well. The 710C tucks an 11.5" wide keyboard into a machine that is only 9.6" wide, the trick, according to Dow Jones & Co being that when the lid is lifted, a series of levers and arms slide the left half of the keyboard to the left and the right half down and to the right until they fit together. According to PC Week, it weighs 4.3 lbs, measures 9.6" by 7.8" by 1.6" and the screen is thin-film-transistor active-matrix; a 701Cs variant has a dual-scan display. The base model is expected to cost $3,400 with 50MHz 80486DX2, 4Mb and 360Mb disk, dual-scan display and nickel-metal hydride battery, sources said. A $6,000 high-end model has 75MHz 80486DX4 processor, the active matrix screen and 24Mb memory. Both versions are said to have 115Kbps infrared port, a telephony board with speaker-phone capabilities, a 3.5" external floppy drive and two PCMCIA Type 2 slots - and IBM is planning PCMCIA cellular modems for the new machines. Attachments: None From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 14:35:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23589; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:35:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23986; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:11:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:11:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23969; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:11:05 -0500 From: Received: from MILANESE.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA16484; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:11:01 EST Received: by milanese.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA09601; Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:10:59 -0500 Message-Id: <9502271910.AA09601@milanese.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Wanted : Dock I Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:10:56 EST If you have one for sale or know of a cheap place to buy one, please send me some email. Bill Daughton -------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 15:30:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26676; Mon, 27 Feb 95 15:30:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27777; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:06:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:06:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27750; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:06:03 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA03931; Mon, 27 Feb 95 12:05:28 PST Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA24830; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 12:04:39 -0800 Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13199; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 12:04:40 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA22424; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 12:04:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 12:04:53 -0800 From: cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9502272004.AA22424@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, Ken_Yee@UB.com Subject: Re: IBM READY WITH TWO INNOVATIVE THINKPAD MODELS X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII There is a picture of the butterfly in this months PC Computing (its on the cover, lower right. The cover is designed to look like it is being opened and the picture of the butterfly is on the next page, this is a pun on the story which is a "sneak preview") They compare it to the Toshiba 1900CT and give it high marks. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 15:30:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26682; Mon, 27 Feb 95 15:30:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28174; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:11:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:11:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28164; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:11:03 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA13021; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:10:56 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:11:32 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <54694.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux/X-Windows on a 755ce Speaking of which, how stable is X-windows under Linux? Has anyone got it working with a PCMCIA network card (specifically IBM's)? ______________________________________________________________________ |\ _____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Um ... no." -- Outfielder Darryl Strawberry's | | | jokim@mit.edu hesitant reply when asked by a judge if he | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu had taken drugs in the past few days. | \|______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 16:03:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28389; Mon, 27 Feb 95 16:03:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00609; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:45:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:45:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from apprentice.qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00593; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:45:05 -0500 Received: from gjacobs (gjacobs.qualcomm.com [129.46.122.39]) by apprentice.qualcomm.com (8.6.9/QC-BSD-2.5) with SMTP id MAA22567; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 12:44:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199502272044.MAA22567@apprentice.qualcomm.com> X-Sender: gjacobs@129.46.50.10 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1a4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 12:44:23 -0800 To: wyman@netcom.com (Wyman Chong), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: gjacobs@qualcomm.com (Gary E. Jacobs) Subject: Re: Mwave on a system with more than 16MB. >Hi, > I heard that the DSP will not work a a TP755CE with more than 16MB. >Is this true? If so, are there any workarounds? > >Thanks. > Not true! Mine has 28MB and DSP works fine. Gary Jacobs gjacobs@qualcomm.com (619)658-4069 voice (619)658-2120 fax From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 18:31:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10751; Mon, 27 Feb 95 18:31:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10715; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:06:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:06:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alpha.xerox.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10705; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:06:45 -0500 Received: from algonquin ([13.2.17.149]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14446(6)>; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:06:02 PST X-Sender: mdixon@kanga X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: mdixon@parc.xerox.com (Mike Dixon) Subject: driver for larger virtual screen? Message-Id: <95Feb27.150602pst."14446(6)"@alpha.xerox.com> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:06:02 PST to help compensate for my laptop's small screen, i'd like some kind of "virtual screen" software (i.e. pretend the screen is, say, 2000x2000, and let me quickly change which part of it is actually being displayed at any given time). i've used packages that did this on other OSs (e.g. olvwm under unix/X), and i once played with some other laptop (i think it was a panasonic) that seemed to provide this as part of the windows video device driver. is there any way to get this capability on my thinkpad? .mike. From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 19:27:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13378; Mon, 27 Feb 95 19:27:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13872; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:58:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:58:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13862; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:58:32 -0500 Received: from dec3300.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA12297; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 16:52:44 -0700 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by dec3300.cuug.ab.ca (5.65//ident-1.0) id AA00224; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 16:55:09 -0700 Message-Id: <9502272355.AA00224@dec3300.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: Linux/X-Windows on a 755ce To: jokim@mit.edu Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 16:55:09 -0700 (MST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <54694.jokim@mit.edu> from "John H. Kim" at Feb 27, 95 03:11:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Speaking of which, how stable is X-windows under Linux? Has anyone got it > working with a PCMCIA network card (specifically IBM's)? > ______________________________________________________________________ > |\ _____________________________________________________________________\ > | | | > | | John H. Kim "Um ... no." -- Outfielder Darryl Strawberry's | > | | jokim@mit.edu hesitant reply when asked by a judge if he | > | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu had taken drugs in the past few days. | > \|______________________________________________________________________| > I have a Thinkpad 360CSE working with Linux and X-Windows. It is very stable. I also have a GVC Ethernet card and a GVC modem card. I have used the ethernet card tons and it works great. The modem I just recently purchased so can't say much yet. I *think* the IBM ethernet card is supported by Linux. Linux on a Thinkpad does require some extra work but its not too hard. The WWW server http://peipa.essex.ac.uk explains things fairly well. I have also had a Thinkpad 750 working and will soon be getting a 755CE that I will be setting up. +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 20:20:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15465; Mon, 27 Feb 95 20:20:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18057; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 20:01:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 20:01:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from infi.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18044; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 20:01:31 -0500 Received: by infi.net (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0rjGKE-0000ArC; Mon, 27 Feb 95 20:02 EST Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 20:02:06 -0500 (EST) From: James Biggerstaff Subject: TP Hard Disk Vendor?? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I received a copy of "PC Catalog" several days ago, and the following ad was contained therein. I have NO connection with this company and HAVE NOT dealt with them. I would not ordinarily post any ad in any newsgroup or mailing list, but there has been a lot of traffic on this list and in the laptop newsgroup asking about sources for HD upgrades so I thought this might be of some general interest. Vendors _do_ appea r to be scarce. I want to upgrade my own TP 360C's drive, but not near term, so I do not intend to call these folks at this time. (I have a gut feeling that notebook drives are about to drop sharply in price so now may not be the time to buy). Many of us would, I suspect, be very interested to hear of anybody's experience with this firm. ****Propaganda Begins**** NOTEBOOK HARD DRIVE UPGRADES!! Upgrade your internal hard drive yourself & SAVE. We tell you how to check your notebook for available drive type selections, then you can install as large a hard drive as available. Even if your BIOS doesn't go as large as you want, we have software to go around it! IBM Thinkpad, Toshiba, NEC, and other folks take heart, you too can upgrade! 260MB/$299 353MB/$389 528MB/$499 710MB/$699 810MB/$799 IBM Travelstar Drives - 540MB/$599 720MB/$819 Use our EXTERNAL Parallel Cabinets or our INTERNAL Conversion kits to make the BEST use of your smaller capacity 2.5-inchers. No need for hard drive paperweights! We also carry a full line of MicroSolutions backpack peripherals - CD-ROMS, Tapes, et al. PCMCIA hard drives and communication/networking devices are available. {SNIP PUFFERY about how smart and friendly they are} Phone: 800-544-4252 (619)632-8621 Fax (619) 753-6133 MICRO-SENSE, INC. 370 Andrew Ave, Leucadia, CA 92024-1130 A small woman owned company ****Propoganda Ends**** Again, I have _no_ connection with this company - they might take your money and abscond with it, send you a Coleco Adam drive, or whatever. YMMV, don't spit into the wind, etc. But small women deserve our support. Jim Biggerstaff jimb@infi.net Norfolk, Virginia, USA ======================================================================== These profound insights are NOT freeware. If found useful, please send money within 30 days. ======================================================================== From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Feb 27 21:17:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18904; Mon, 27 Feb 95 21:17:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21557; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 21:02:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 21:02:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from luyou by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21537; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 21:02:04 -0500 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by luyou (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA16695; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 09:58:22 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199502280158.JAA16695@luyou> Subject: Re: driver for larger virtual screen? To: mdixon@parc.xerox.com (Mike Dixon) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 09:58:22 +0800 (WAUST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <95Feb27.150602pst."14446(6)"@alpha.xerox.com> from "Mike Dixon" at Feb 27, 95 03:06:02 pm Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text ``..Mike Dixon writes, ` From: mdixon@parc.xerox.com (Mike Dixon) ` Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:06:02 PST ` ` to help compensate for my laptop's small screen, i'd like some kind ` of "virtual screen" software (i.e. pretend the screen is, say, 2000x2000, ` and let me quickly change which part of it is actually being displayed ` at any given time). ` i've used packages that did this on other OSs (e.g. olvwm under unix/X), olvwm must be a hog on the X-machine! I'm currently using tvtwm on an AIX 3.2.5 and it's heaps faster, - some window functionality. ` and i once played with some other laptop (i think it was a panasonic) that ` seemed to provide this as part of the windows video device driver. What type of virtual screens manager did they have? ` is there any way to get this capability on my thinkpad? There are a few around. WideAngle made it big with their virtual screens. Works in Windows and Win/OS2. It was not a front-end to Windows (like Norton Desktop). Just load Windows and click on the icon. An icon grid (user configurable) of say 9 squares appeared on the bottom of the screen. Each "pigeon hole" is a virtual screen. It is a commercial product. There is also an equivalent OS/2 shareware verison called "9lives" or something. Look through the archives and search for "virtual". I did see two or three sharewares for virtual windows. However none of the virtual screen window managers I've seen emulates tvtwm/X. A small window at the bottom of the screen with a panner. Moving the panner in this window moves the viewable screen to another screen estate. This small window represents the entire (virtual) screen. Then again, you could install Linux+X on the TP and run tvtwm.. if I had more disk space ): Cheers. ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Feb 28 08:24:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25558; Tue, 28 Feb 95 08:24:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27657; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 08:09:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 08:09:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from werple.mira.net.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27643; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 08:09:40 -0500 Received: (from guardian@localhost) by werple.mira.net.au (8.6.10/8.6.9) id AAA00292; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 00:09:16 +1100 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 00:07:15 +1100 (EST) From: Nick Allan Subject: 4mb dram for 750 To: thinkpad mailinglist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all It seems its really hard to get 4mb dram cards for the thinkpad 750 in Australia. Can anyone suggest a mail order company that seels them. The only one I know of is sparco and the memory there seems quite expensive. Are there any others that sell 4mb dram for the tp750? Thanks for any help in advance. Please if possible a non 1-800 number would be best. I can't dial 1-800 from australia. Regards Nick Guardian@werple.mira.net.au From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Feb 28 10:56:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03899; Tue, 28 Feb 95 10:56:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06345; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 10:45:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 10:45:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom18.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06325; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 10:45:23 -0500 From: Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id HAA19407; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 07:45:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199502281545.HAA19407@netcom18.netcom.com> Subject: Question on RAM disk and OS/2 on TP750c... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 07:45:04 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all! Getting my 32 mb upgrade on Thurs :). I was wondering...is it possible to set up a 22 mb RAM disk under OS/2, stack that w/ stacker, then point my virtual memory swapper to that, effectively stacking my RAM? A program on the Mac, RAM doubler seems to do a similar thing... From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Feb 28 11:45:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06933; Tue, 28 Feb 95 11:45:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09772; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:33:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:33:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom23.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09758; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:33:06 -0500 Received: from dummy.host by netcom23.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id IAA20665; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 08:32:45 -0800 Message-Id: <199502281632.IAA20665@netcom23.netcom.com> X-Sender: dvchan@netcom22.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:32:42 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Need old messages...Eudora wiped my mailbox! X-Mailer: Hi! My TP750 mailbox got corrupted in Eudora :(. Does anyone have an archive of the mailing list messages? (I heard there's an ftp site somewhere...) Thanks Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Feb 28 13:13:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13328; Tue, 28 Feb 95 13:13:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16072; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 12:54:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 12:54:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16055; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 12:54:23 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA13157; Tue, 28 Feb 95 10:53:48 MST Date: Tue, 28 Feb 95 10:53:48 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9502281753.AA13157@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: OS/2: FIx Pak XR0W005 For those of you feeling brave, IBM has just made available a "Fix Pak" for OS/2 Warp 3.0. This is apparently a "mini-CSD" which includes fixes for 50 different APAR's. (A specific APAR list is provided as part of the package). Here is what you need and where you can get it: ftp ftp.pcco.ibm.com /pub/corrective_service wfp_05.zip 3391942 02/27/95 OS/2 Warp3.0 FixPack (50 APAR fixes) warpbdsk.1dk 1466960 01-24-95 disk 1 for installing Warp Fixpacks warpbdsk.2dk 1373760 01-24-95 disk 2 for installing warp fixpacks Regards, _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | kyeanopl@den.mmc.com Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | Denver, CO. 80201 | key@csn.net From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Feb 28 15:03:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18972; Tue, 28 Feb 95 15:03:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24101; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 14:26:25 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 14:26:23 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24085; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 14:26:19 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA04162; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 13:26:12 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 14:26:46 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <52006.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Question on RAM disk and OS/2 on TP750c... In message Tue, 28 Feb 1995 07:45:04 -0800 (PST), writes: > Hi all! Getting my 32 mb upgrade on Thurs :). I was wondering...is it > possible to set up a 22 mb RAM disk under OS/2, stack that w/ stacker, > then point my virtual memory swapper to that, effectively stacking my > RAM? A program on the Mac, RAM doubler seems to do a similar thing... RAM doubler on the Mac works because the Macs use a really strange (many would say stupid) memory allocation method. When you start a Mac app, it grabs as much memory as you've set it to (via info, command-i). It doesn't matter if the app only needs 1MB, if you've set it for 10MB because it might need 10MB some time, it'll grab 10MB. RAM doubler takes back the unused portion of allocated memory, "fixing" a problem that doesn't exist under OS/2. The maximum size ramdisk OS/2 allows is 32MB. I don't know if you can point the swapper to it, I don't know if you can get Stacker to stack it, I don't know if it'll help or hurt performance. - John who's gotten too many "out of memory" errors on a 16MB Quadra. ______________________________________________________________________ |\ _____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Um ... no." -- Outfielder Darryl Strawberry's | | | jokim@mit.edu hesitant reply when asked by a judge if he | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu had taken drugs in the past few days. | \|______________________________________________________________________| From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Feb 28 16:51:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26124; Tue, 28 Feb 95 16:51:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05857; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:29:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:29:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05847; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:29:02 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id QAA07490; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:32:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:32:10 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Cc: Mike Dixon , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: driver for larger virtual screen? In-Reply-To: <199502280158.JAA16695@luyou> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Feb 1995, Kevin Cheong wrote: > There are a few around. WideAngle made it big with their virtual screens. > Works in Windows and Win/OS2. It was not a front-end to Windows (like > Norton Desktop). Just load Windows and click on the icon. An icon grid > (user configurable) of say 9 squares appeared on the bottom of the > screen. Each "pigeon hole" is a virtual screen. It is a commercial > product. Word of warning - some of these don't co-exist with things like Norton Desktop well - ND, for example, puts things on the background and the viirtual screen gadgets duplicate that background. Makes for funny looking screens. From tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Feb 28 21:09:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16937; Tue, 28 Feb 95 21:09:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18298; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 18:58:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 18:58:18 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from einstein.technet.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18282; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 18:58:09 -0500 Received: (from nelson@localhost) by einstein.technet.sg (8.6.10/8.6.9) id HAA13236 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 07:57:58 +0800 From: Nelson Chan Chee-Kian Message-Id: <199502282357.HAA13236@einstein.technet.sg> Subject: Intelligent Battery Pack To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 07:57:57 +0800 (SST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I want to purchase an itelligent battery pack for my TP 755CE but my local IBM reseller says that IBM only sells the ordinary NiMH battery pack. I wonder if any of you kind folks out there can point me to the part number for the intelligent battery pack. I've checked www.pcco.ibm.com and I cannot locate the information. regards, Nelson Chan here in sunny Singapore From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 1 03:33:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11308; Wed, 1 Mar 95 03:33:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16505; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 03:23:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 03:23:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16495; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 03:23:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199503010823.DAA16495@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08831; Wed, 1 Mar 95 03:23:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 95 03:23:31 -0500 From: Chris Hanson To: dvchan@netcom.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199502281632.IAA20665@netcom23.netcom.com> (dvchan@netcom.com) Subject: Re: Need old messages...Eudora wiped my mailbox! Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:32:42 -0500 From: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) Hi! My TP750 mailbox got corrupted in Eudora :(. Does anyone have an archive of the mailing list messages? (I heard there's an ftp site somewhere...) Thanks Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com The archive is stored at "swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu" in the "pub/thinkpad/archive" directory. See "pub/thinkpad/README" for details. The most recent messages aren't yet stored there (we have up to Feb. 8). I'm in the process of setting up an automatic spool that will be updated daily, but it's not quite there yet. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 1 05:44:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17382; Wed, 1 Mar 95 05:44:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA29354; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 05:35:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 05:35:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from utserv.mcc.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA29293; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 05:35:02 -0500 Received: from ursa.cns.umist.ac.uk by utserv.mcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 1 Mar 1995 10:34:17 +0000 Received: from fs2.ee.umist.ac.uk (actually 130.88.151.80) by ursa.cns.umist.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 1 Mar 1995 10:26:52 +0000 Received: from UMIST-EE-FS2/MAILQUEUE by fs2.ee.umist.ac.uk (Mercury 1.20); 1 Mar 95 10:32:45 GMT Received: from MAILQUEUE by UMIST-EE-FS2 (Mercury 1.20); 1 Mar 95 10:32:04 GMT From: DH WILLIAMS To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 10:32:00 GMT Subject: Warp Fixes X-Confirm-Reading-To: "DH WILLIAMS" X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.21 Message-Id: <14C01512D63@fs2.ee.umist.ac.uk> Hi there! Although not 100% relevant, I have a problem: When I ftp to ftp.pcco.ibm.com, I get a "bin/ls resource temporarily unavailable" message after using dir or ls (with various switches). Is this just a temporary problem? Does anyone know of another site with the WARP fixes? Ta. Danny ******** Garfield rules O.K. ********* (wdh@fs2.ee.umist.ac.uk) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 1 07:07:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20644; Wed, 1 Mar 95 07:07:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04206; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 06:55:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 06:55:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cscgpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04188; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 06:55:19 -0500 Received: from huxley.anu.edu.au (huxley.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.12]) by cscgpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id WAA03161; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 22:55:14 +1100 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by huxley.anu.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) id WAA15241; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 22:55:12 +1100 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 22:55:12 +1100 Message-Id: <199503011155.WAA15241@huxley.anu.edu.au> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Need old messages...Eudora wiped my mailbox! we've probably still got a few gigabytes of messages around here from billy about 28.8 baud modems - where should we send them? regards, al ----------- >Date: Wed, 1 Mar 95 03:23:31 -0500 >From: Chris Hanson >To: dvchan@netcom.com >Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >Subject: Re: Need old messages...Eudora wiped my mailbox! > > Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:32:42 -0500 > From: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) > > Hi! My TP750 mailbox got corrupted in Eudora :(. Does anyone have an > archive of the mailing list messages? (I heard there's an ftp site > somewhere...) > > Thanks > Derek V. Chan > dvchan@netcom.com ---------------------- Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology, Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 1 08:43:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25776; Wed, 1 Mar 95 08:43:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08405; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 08:26:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 08:26:18 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom22.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08394; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 08:26:13 -0500 Received: from dummy.host by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id FAA09616; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 05:25:50 -0800 Message-Id: <199503011325.FAA09616@netcom22.netcom.com> X-Sender: dvchan@netcom22.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 01 Mar 1995 08:25:47 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Internet Voice Phone, TP750c, and TP755 Microphone kit... X-Mailer: Hi all. I'm wondering if anyone has the TP755 microphone kit. If so, could you please describe it? I gather that it is a clip-on microphone. How large is it? How long is the cord? Also, is it black (heh, color coordination is a must :) )? Has anyone used this microphone w/ the TP750c? It should be compatible, right (assuming a normal microphone plug)? Also, has anyone used this with the Internet Voice Phone? Thanks. -- Derek Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 1 11:10:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04892; Wed, 1 Mar 95 11:10:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17056; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 10:43:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 10:43:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17045; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 10:43:48 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA20060 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 09:43:50 -0600 Message-Id: <199503011543.JAA20060@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 01 Mar 1995 09:43:16 -0600 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: Re: Internet Voice Phone, TP750c, and TP755 Microphone kit... >Has anyone used this microphone w/ the TP750c? It should be compatible, >right (assuming a normal microphone plug)? > >Also, has anyone used this with the Internet Voice Phone? > >Thanks. > i just picked up a $5 microphone from Radio Shack, plugged it into my thinkpad 750C, and it works fine with Internet Phone (ie the one from VocalTec). I have noticed that the voice quality from the program is better with the "regular" thinkpad sound drivers (i.e. the ones that hog lots of memory) than with the new patched drivers (which load into extended memory). -Todd =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Todd Tannenbaum email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Director of the Model Advanced Facility voice phone: (608) 262-3118 Computer-Aided Engineering Center FAX phone: (608) 265-4546 University of Wisconsin-Madison From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 1 13:18:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13884; Wed, 1 Mar 95 13:18:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25508; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 12:28:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 12:28:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25492; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 12:28:22 -0500 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA12764 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 12:28:15 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 12:28:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix19.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 12:25:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix19.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 12:25:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix19.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix19.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 12:25:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 12:25:46 -0500 (EST) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Internet Voice Phone, TP750c, and TP755 Microphone kit... In-Reply-To: <199503011543.JAA20060@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> References: <199503011543.JAA20060@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> just wondering about this internet phone thing... I just heard about it... does it work with thinkpad hardware? tc755 also, what os is it available under? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sang Kim Je veux que tout le monde sache que j'aime sk6k@andrew.cmu.edu Alexis Hayes, la princesse de l'ecole de Denver (WOW, quelle femme!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 1 19:11:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08890; Wed, 1 Mar 95 19:11:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26104; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 18:41:16 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 18:41:14 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from houws001.shl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26090; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 18:41:11 -0500 Received: from houmg001.shl.com by houws001.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA12549; Wed, 1 Mar 95 17:41:04 CST Received: by houmg001.shl.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F5522B7@houmg001.shl.com>; Wed, 01 Mar 95 17:43:19 PST From: NELSON Tim To: "TP750@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Usenet... not exclusively please. Date: Wed, 01 Mar 95 15:06:00 PST Message-Id: <2F5522B7@houmg001.shl.com> Encoding: 30 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I do not have access to USENET, as a DOS/Windows Thinkpad user who normally runs disconnected except for e-mail via Hotel Telephones and Airport Lounges. I still prefer the list server, even when we have little problems like this. Please to NOT move this list to USENET exclusively. Please? ---------------------------------------------------- Timothy Nelson Chief Scientist, SHL Systemhouse Inc. internet: tnelson@shl.com ---------------------------------------------------- ---------- > From: owner-tp750 > To: AGross > Cc: tp750 > Subject: Re: 28.8? (x100000000) > Date: Sunday, February 26, 1995 7:11PM > > > This SCREWUP reminds me... PLEASE PUT THIS LIST ON USENET!!!!! ENOUGH!! > This would not happend with a user group! With these types of accidents, > and the general high volume of mail from this list (typically 30% of my > mail) makes it less and less valuble as every day passes... > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 1 21:48:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17133; Wed, 1 Mar 95 21:48:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08239; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 21:25:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 21:25:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08209; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 21:25:04 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id VAA02985; Wed, 1 Mar 1995 21:21:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199503020221.VAA02985@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: Tim Nelson Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: ADMIN Re: Usenet... not exclusively please. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 01 Mar 1995 15:06:00 PST." <2F5522B7@houmg001.shl.com> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 1995 21:21:45 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > Please to NOT move this list to USENET exclusively. Please? Rest assured, the tp750 email list is not going away. As for the high volume of mail, I'm working on a digest option. When it's ready for testing, I'll announce it. And I've even found a way to prevent this type of explosion *without* comparing each message submitted with every message already sent to the list... Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 2 01:46:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00286; Thu, 2 Mar 95 01:46:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27436; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 01:29:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 01:29:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from luyou by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27424; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 01:29:26 -0500 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by luyou (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id OAA15802 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:26:04 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199503020626.OAA15802@luyou> Subject: LINUX: peipa.essex.ac.uk/pub/tp-linux/tp-bare.gz To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:26:04 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text hi, I intend to install Slackware 2.1.0 Linux by the weekend and X by next week. After going through all the stuff, I found a boot disk for the TP ftp://peipa.essex.ac.uk/pub/tp-linux/tp-bare.gz What has been patched in this boot-disk? Are the patches spelled out in ftp://peipa.essex.ac.uk/pub/tp-linux/tp-linux.ps.gz incorporated in this compiled boot disk OR is the Slackware 2.1.0 boot-disk sufficient? I don't use a 2.88Mb drive hence all I need to do is to configure LILO after using Slackware 2.1.0 boot+root disks, yes? \begin{linux aside} Any suggestions in partioning the disk? I've got a TP360(M) with 12Mb RAM and a 340Mb HD - currently partitioned as follows, 40MB dos, 150Mb win, 150Mb os/2w3. I need a Unix box since I do a lot of (non-X) development on that platform (IBM RS/6000 PPC 410, AIX 3.2.5). Sad to say,os/2 has to go.. I'm thinking of repartitioning - 40Mb dos, 100Mb win (stacked), 200Mb linux. Anyways, should I go for a different partition for / and /usr, and how much should each partition be, why? BTW is os/2w3 faster than linux+X in the above configuration and application? I do have gcc+emx, etc. for os/2w3. \end{linux aside} Email reply preferred. Request for prompt assistance. Thanks heaps! ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 2 08:56:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22545; Thu, 2 Mar 95 08:56:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03990; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 08:41:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 08:41:04 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom3.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03976; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 08:41:00 -0500 From: Received: by netcom3.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id FAA19514; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 05:40:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199503021340.FAA19514@netcom3.netcom.com> Subject: iomega Zip To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 05:40:39 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone have one? $199 for the drive $149 for for gig of drive space seems pretty downright cheap! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 2 12:13:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04070; Thu, 2 Mar 95 12:13:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21164; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 11:49:46 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 11:49:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ucsd.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21139; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 11:49:40 -0500 Received: from conic.UUCP by ucsd.edu; id IAA13805 sendmail 8.6.10/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Thu, 2 Mar 1995 08:49:32 -0800 for tp750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <199503021649.IAA13805@ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 1480 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 07:55:50 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 07:55:44 +0000 Subject: 2.88 Floppy X-Confirm-Reading-To: TOMF@conic.loral.com X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 I have a TP360C which comes with a 1.44 floppy. Has anyone tried to use a 2.88 floppy in a TP360? Does anyone know the 2.88 floppy part number that came in their TP75X? Tom Franklin tomf@conic.loral.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 2 13:53:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11000; Thu, 2 Mar 95 13:53:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28774; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 13:24:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 13:24:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28764; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 13:24:04 -0500 Received: from @get.hooked.net (worm.hooked.net [199.2.134.13]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA01717; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 10:23:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199503021823.KAA01717@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@get.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 10:23:38 -0800 To: , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: iomega Zip At 05:40 AM 3/2/95 -0800, dvchan@netcom.com wrote: >Anyone have one? > >$199 for the drive $149 for for gig of drive space seems pretty downright >cheap! Where did you hear a gig? Sounds fishy to me :) -- ______________________________________________________________ jesse montrose login status available at http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 2 16:22:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19909; Thu, 2 Mar 95 16:22:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12113; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:48:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:48:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alpha.xerox.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12103; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:48:39 -0500 Received: from algonquin ([13.2.17.149]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14499(4)>; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 12:48:02 PST X-Sender: mdixon@kanga X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: mdixon@parc.xerox.com (Mike Dixon) Subject: dock & video boards for tp755? Message-Id: <95Mar2.124802pst."14499(4)"@alpha.xerox.com> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 12:48:02 PST does anyone on this list have experience with using a dock & and a video board to get better external video quality from their thinkpad? if so, which dock, which video board, and how happy are you with the results? .mike. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 2 17:39:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25183; Thu, 2 Mar 95 17:39:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17921; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 16:52:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 16:52:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17910; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 16:52:55 -0500 From: Received: from MILANESE.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA14037; Thu, 2 Mar 95 16:52:52 EST Received: by milanese.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA10569; Thu, 2 Mar 95 16:52:49 -0500 Message-Id: <9503022152.AA10569@milanese.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Audio chip on 755c Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 16:52:48 EST Is the audio chip different on the 755c than the 750c. If so, is it hardware compatible with soundblaster? Thanks, Bill Daughton -------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 2 18:04:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28372; Thu, 2 Mar 95 18:04:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22440; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 17:44:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 17:44:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22418; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 17:44:27 -0500 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA00496; Thu, 2 Mar 95 14:43:58 PST Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA23362; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:43:50 -0800 Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA26279; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:43:55 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03081; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:44:07 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:44:07 -0800 From: cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9503022244.AA03081@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, daughton@mit.edu Subject: Re: Audio chip on 755c X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII The audio chip IS different in the 755 CE Note well the 'E' after the C. I guess E stands for Enhanced. And it _is_ compatible with Doom. There is also a 755C (note there is no E) and it uses the same audio chip as the 750C and it is NOT compatible with doom. The buzzword is "the MWAVE Chip" which is only available on the CE, CsE, and CD models. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 2 18:31:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29799; Thu, 2 Mar 95 18:31:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24480; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 18:08:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 18:08:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24470; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 18:08:09 -0500 Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5623; Thu, 02 Mar 95 18:08:53 LCL Received: from YSUB.YSU.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 2582; Thu, 02 Mar 95 18:08:52 LCL Received: from YSUB.YSU.EDU (NJE origin BOB@YSUB) by YSUB.YSU.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7665; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 18:05:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 95 18:00:45 EST From: Bob Quigley Organization: Youngstown State University Subject: Tape drive options for the Dock II To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <950302.180045.EST.BOB@YSUB.YSU.EDU> I would like to connect a tape drive to my Dock II to allow me to back up my OS/2 system (Warp 3.0 with WIN-OS2). Most of the QIC-120(250) type tape drives operate from the floppy drive controller. Can a tape drive be connected to the external floppy drive connector on the Dock II? Is anyone using an external SCSI tape drive with OS/2? What software are you using? Thanks for your help! Bob Quigley (bob@ysu.edu) TP755C-20Mb RAM-540Mb DISK-3com 3c589 ethernet-USR Worldport 14.4-Dock II OS/2 Warp with WINOS2 Youngstown State University From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 2 18:40:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00207; Thu, 2 Mar 95 18:40:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24507; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 18:09:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 18:09:17 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24495; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 18:09:13 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA19387; Thu, 2 Mar 1995 17:08:39 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 18:08:45 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <65353.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Trackpoint caps I just posted this to comp.sys.laptops and figured folks here would be interested. It'd be funny if it wasn't so pitiful: Subject: Re: IBM Trackpoint III Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops References: <3j27ca$5kj@eccdb1.pms.ford.com> <3j3au7$1u0@panix.com> Distribution: John Brock (jbrock@panix.com) wrote: : In article <3j27ca$5kj@eccdb1.pms.ford.com>, : >The caps for the TrackPoint III are what IBM calls "cat's tongue". It has : >a sandpapery feel, which eliminates the slipperyness that plagued the : >previous version. [deleted] They do offer it as an option (if you're willing to spend an hour playing phone tag with IBM trying to figure out the part number, or you can ask the TP750 mailing list). However, the pricing on replacement TrackPoint caps is what finally convinced me that IBM marketing (hah!) people live off in their own little world. Replacement caps cost $12 for 3, or $4 each. By my measurements (with a mechanical scale - no electronic scale handy) each cap weighs about 70 milligrams. Let's be generous and call it 100mg or 0.1 grams. $4 per 0.1g works out to $40000 per kg which, in terms more appropriate for this outlandish pricing, is $1500 per troy ounce. That is, per weight, the most valuable part on a Thinkpad is not the CPU or the active matrix screen or the gold plating on the connectors or even the plastic shell that houses the hard drive (about $400 for one of those). No, the most valuable part is that damn pink rubber cap. No wonder the demo machines are missing them at all the computer stores I visit. ______________________________________________________________________ |\ _____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Um ... no." -- Outfielder Darryl Strawberry's | | | jokim@mit.edu hesitant reply when asked by a judge if he | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu had taken drugs in the past few days. | \|______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 3 06:13:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10396; Fri, 3 Mar 95 06:13:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA18001; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 05:51:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 05:51:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom23.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA17991; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 05:51:29 -0500 Received: from dummy.host by netcom23.netcom.com (8.6.10/Netcom) id CAA01943; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 02:51:04 -0800 Message-Id: <199503031051.CAA01943@netcom23.netcom.com> X-Sender: dvchan@netcom23.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Mar 1995 05:51:06 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Question again about Paragon Memory... X-Mailer: How do you figure out whether your RAM upgrade chip is 3.3 v or 5 v? Thanks. Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 3 06:16:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11107; Fri, 3 Mar 95 06:16:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA18947; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 06:07:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 06:07:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom23.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA18935; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 06:07:49 -0500 Received: from dummy.host by netcom23.netcom.com (8.6.10/Netcom) id DAA03275; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 03:07:25 -0800 Message-Id: <199503031107.DAA03275@netcom23.netcom.com> X-Sender: dvchan@netcom23.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Mar 1995 06:07:27 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) Subject: How many of you have problems w/ 2.88 Mb drive? X-Mailer: and 1.44 hi-formatted diskettes? I have data errors reading them. Yeah, I know you shouldn't do this, but is this a drive error, or just media? The drive always gets media errors on the last 190 K or so of a file that spans the entire disk. Thanks. Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 3 06:28:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11134; Fri, 3 Mar 95 06:28:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA19619; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 06:18:35 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 06:18:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from r04n01.cac.psu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA19608; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 06:18:32 -0500 Received: from ppp84.cac.psu.edu (ppp84.cac.psu.edu [128.118.73.84]) by r04n01.cac.psu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA35155; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 06:18:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199503031118.GAA35155@r04n01.cac.psu.edu> X-Sender: afs1@email.psu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Mar 1995 05:54:13 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: afs1@psu.edu (Arnold Shapiro) Subject: Wanted: Memory (8MB 80ns SIMM) for N51 Cc: dwb4@psu.edu I am interested in purchasing 8MB 80ns SIMM (memory) for an N51. The IBM part number is 07G1828. If you have a used unit, please contact: dwb4@psu.edu David W. Beede P.O. Box 555 Port Matilda, PA 16870-0555 (814) 692-7389 Thanks for any help. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 3 12:11:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28113; Fri, 3 Mar 95 12:11:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17529; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:47:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:47:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom19.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17512; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:47:31 -0500 From: Received: from msmith by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.10/Netcom) id IAA10420; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 08:46:30 -0800 Received: by msmith (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.13B/1.0um) id AA0031; Fri, 03 Mar 95 08:48:20 -0800 Message-Id: <9503031648.AA0031@msmith> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 03 Mar 95 08:41:40 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: msmith@netcom.com Subject: Re: Trackpoint caps X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <25_83_1_794238101> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: I now have in my possesion about 10 of these little beasts. I have a three year on-site service agreement for my machine, I have also broken four trackpoint devices. When the service engineer comes in I have asked if they could bring me a pack of caps ( they do not need to account for them ). They have almost always been willing to do so. ------------- I wear these caps out at a scary rate, (too much programming sitting up in bed) so need my supply. Just thought I would let you know a possible route for free trackpoint caps. //------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 3 12:12:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28123; Fri, 3 Mar 95 12:12:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18247; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:55:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:55:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom16.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18220; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:55:06 -0500 From: Received: from msmith by netcom16.netcom.com (8.6.10/Netcom) id IAA01447; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 08:53:48 -0800 Received: by msmith (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.13B/1.0um) id AA0035; Fri, 03 Mar 95 08:53:30 -0800 Message-Id: <9503031653.AA0035@msmith> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 03 Mar 95 08:41:40 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: msmith@netcom.com Subject: Re: Trackpoint caps X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <25_83_1_794238101> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: I now have in my possesion about 10 of these little beasts. I have a three year on-site service agreement for my machine, I have also broken four trackpoint devices. When the service engineer comes in I have asked if they could bring me a pack of caps ( they do not need to account for them ). They have almost always been willing to do so. ------------- I wear these caps out at a scary rate, (too much programming sitting up in bed) so need my supply. Just thought I would let you know a possible route for free trackpoint caps. //------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 3 12:15:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28135; Fri, 3 Mar 95 12:15:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17911; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:50:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:50:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom15.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17889; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:50:37 -0500 From: Received: from msmith by netcom15.netcom.com (8.6.10/Netcom) id IAA21004; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 08:48:13 -0800 Received: by msmith (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.13B/1.0um) id AA0032; Fri, 03 Mar 95 08:50:38 -0800 Message-Id: <9503031650.AA0032@msmith> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 03 Mar 95 08:41:40 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: msmith@netcom.com Subject: Re: Trackpoint caps X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <25_83_1_794238101> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: I now have in my possesion about 10 of these little beasts. I have a three year on-site service agreement for my machine, I have also broken four trackpoint devices. When the service engineer comes in I have asked if they could bring me a pack of caps ( they do not need to account for them ). They have almost always been willing to do so. ------------- I wear these caps out at a scary rate, (too much programming sitting up in bed) so need my supply. Just thought I would let you know a possible route for free trackpoint caps. //------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 3 12:46:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00277; Fri, 3 Mar 95 12:46:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21341; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 12:26:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 12:26:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21327; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 12:25:58 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA03369; Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:25:55 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 12:26:30 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <44791.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: How many of you have problems w/ 2.88 Mb drive? In message Fri, 03 Mar 1995 06:07:27 -0500, dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) writes: > and 1.44 hi-formatted diskettes? I have data errors reading them. > Yeah, I know you shouldn't do this, but is this a drive error, or just > media? > The drive always gets media errors on the last 190 K or so of a file that > spans the entire disk. My hunch is it has to do with the smaller read/write heads on the 2.88MB drive. When I first got my 750 it read nearly all my old 1.44 diskettes. The few it couldn't read I diskcopy'ed on another machine and it could read the copies. I also ran across a friend's machine who could read diskettes written by my TP, but my TP couldn't read diskettes written by that machine. After my drive died and I had it replaced, it *could* read those floppies. So I suspect we're playing with really close tolerances here. If it's a consistent problem, get the 2.88MB drive replaced. ______________________________________________________________________ |\ _____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Um ... no." -- Outfielder Darryl Strawberry's | | | jokim@mit.edu hesitant reply when asked by a judge if he | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu had taken drugs in the past few days. | \|______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 4 03:23:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22275; Sat, 4 Mar 95 03:23:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22594; Sat, 4 Mar 1995 03:13:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 4 Mar 1995 03:13:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA22582; Sat, 4 Mar 1995 03:13:36 -0500 Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA31208; Sat, 4 Mar 1995 08:13:28 GMT Received: from slip120-131.mo.us.ibm.net(129.37.120.131) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma0OYC92; Sat Mar 4 08:13:19 1995 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 95 01:42:13 PST From: KD Williams Subject: Greetings! To: TP750 X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all! Just joined and wanted (as the welcome letter suggests) to introduce myself. I guess I'm what you'd call a mobile worker. I gave up my office about two years ago and work strictly out of my home or on the road. I do a couple of different things. One, I develop and deliver education to corporations that are mobilizing their sales force. The topics generally are geared towerd teaching people that are getting new ThinkPads, how to use them effectively in their day to day lives. I cover hardware, Operating systems software (OS/2 and DOS/Windows), application software (Suites, Comm, Fax, etc), working in a mobile environment, LAN (direct and dial up) communication issues (digital vs analog, dial methods, etc), and customer applications. Basically, it's how to use the tools that they have to do their jobs effectively. I have been doing it for about two years and, I must admit, I have a lot of fun. I have a 750C, 12MB, 340MB, 14.4 DataFax and 16/4 Token Ring. I have two hard drives, one with a Windows platform and one with an OS/2 platform. Second, I am co-owner of a company called InComm that specializes in marketing products specifically for mobile professionals. Our products, include Inverters, Telephone Loop Current Testers (these identify digital and analog lines and also identify reversed polarity on analog ports), and most importantly -- mobile travel kits. The travel kits include a variety of tools such as a super lightweight parallel cable, worldwide power adapters, worldwide phone adapters and a Telecoupler which allows you to use any handset (even cellular or digital) to communicate at up to 14.4. I hope to gain a lot of knowledge from all of you and want to reciprocate by offering any help I can to questions that you might have. ||-----------------------------------------------------|| || InComm E-mail: Kris || || ****** Sensible Solutions || || Information for the || || Communication Road Warrior || ||-----------------------------------------------------|| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 5 20:33:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00302; Sun, 5 Mar 95 20:33:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17823; Sun, 5 Mar 1995 20:19:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 5 Mar 1995 20:18:59 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom22.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17806; Sun, 5 Mar 1995 20:18:56 -0500 From: Received: by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.10/Netcom) id RAA09349; Sun, 5 Mar 1995 17:18:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199503060118.RAA09349@netcom22.netcom.com> Subject: Zip Drive Info... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 17:18:27 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Article 24127 of comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage: Xref: netcom.com comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:24127 Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ah004 From: ah004@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Gregg MacDonald) Subject: Re: Need Info: Iomega Zips (with Press release) Message-ID: Sender: ah004@freenet2.carleton.ca (Gregg MacDonald) Reply-To: ah004@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Gregg MacDonald) Organization: The National Capital FreeNet References: Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 14:00:02 GMT Lines: 229 In a previous posting, Thompson James (il26@jove.acs.unt.edu) writes: > On Sat, 4 Mar 1995, Takahiko Koyama wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Please, give me some info about this product. I saw an article about this >> product in MacUser(I am PC user though) Feb. 1995. I haven't seen any article >> ever since. Is there any problem? If this product are sold somewhere around >> $200 and 100MB disk at $30, all the MO manufacture should have reduced the >> prices.(However, I haven't seen such a drastic decrease). >> Anyone Help. >> >> Thank You, >> >> Takahiko Koyama >> tk29@cornell.edu >> >> > > Okay, coming from various sources, this is what I've gathered on > the Zip drives: They are to be released either March 7th or the 11th > (Can't remember the exact date)... The drives should have a street price > or ~$200, the 100 Meg disks should have a street price of ~$20, and 20 > meg disks (Why?) should be ~$10... The units will be external only (WHY? > WHY? WHY?) and will come in two flavors, SCSI, and Parallel > (WHY?WHY?WHY?WHY?WHY?)... Acces time's should be around 39 MS... I > haven't been able to dig up a data transfer rate... (If anyone knows > anything on this, please lemme know!) When I first heard about them, I > was about to run out and pre-order one... Now, especially because of the > external only (I didn't buy this monster tower case just to have an > external drive!) and parallel port interface, I think I'll be holding off > a while... Nice idea, badly executed, at least, so far, IMHO... > If anyone has any other hard facts, please correct me, I don't pretend to > be speaking the word of God... > > (P.S. Those various sources I was referring to mainly consist of Computer > Reatil Week and from a friend who pre-ordered one from a Mac place... (Oh > yeah, and to people who can get things wholesale, they mentioned that the > mark-up on the drives is going to be around 25 points! Should be nice and > cheap in the greyer areas than... :) > > -Peace > BE/DA/TA/DH > ...He never grew old, yet he never stopped growing... > Ok, here's the info that was passed along to me, in the same form I got it in, when I looked for it last: ******************************************************************* <<____________________________________________________________________>> AFFORDABLE PERSONAL STORAGE TO ORGANIZE, MOVE AND BACKUP YOUR STUFF ZIP DRIVE IS 3 DRIVES IN ONE: *Expand your hard drive with unlimited capacity (100MB at a time) *Take it with you (Zip drive and disks are portable) *Backup your hard drive (fast and easy) At estimated street prices of $199.95 for the drive, and $19.95 for additional 100MB disks, the Zip Drive is a tremendous value. EXPAND YOUR HARD DRIVE WITHOUT LIMITS: Increase your storage quickly, easily and economically -- as you need it. With interchangeable 100MB or 25MB Zip disks, you can pick the size you need for every project, and using compression software you can keep up to 200MB of your stuff on a single Zip disk. THE NEWEST, SMALLEST, MOST PORTABLE DRIVE: Zip drive weighs about 1 pound and fits easily in your hand, in your bag or in your briefcase. PLUG-AND-GO SETUP IS QUICK AND EASY: Zip drive is available in two models -- SCSI and parallel port. Set up is easy with simple external connections. The SCSI model connects directly to your SCSI port and allows you to use additional peripherals. And, with the parallel port model, there=92s no need to open up your PC. Zip drive connects directly to your parallel port and includes a printer pass-through feature that allows you to use either your Zip drive or your printer. FAST, EASY AND FAMILIAR: Zip drive works like your hard drive on a Macintosh or a PC. You already know how to use it. Launch and run files and applications directly from the drive. HOLDS THE STUFF YOU NEED FOR WORK OR PLAY: Great for things like multi-media, software applications, presentations, financial data, graphics, music, downloads, scans, spreadsheets and games. Your perfect companion as you travel the information superhighway. HELPFUL SOFTWARE: Zip tools software helps you organize, track and find all your stuff quickly and easily. From=20cataloging the files on all your Zip disks to temporarily installing your Zip drive on other computers, or securing confidential disks using password protection, Zip tools provides you with useful software to help you do your work. ZIP DISKS CAN HOLD ALL YOUR STUFF: They=92re inexpensive, reliable and ready to help you get organized. Use as many disks as you need. Zip tools software will help you keep track of it all. Work Stuff. Home Stuff. School Stuff. Play Stuff. USE ZIP DISKS TO: *Expand the storage of your computer -- quickly and easily; 100MB at a time *Move your work easily to different locations and computers *Backup quickly and easily *Create a multimedia library *Collect stuff from on-line services without filling up your hard drive *Store large scanned or downloaded files *Take work home or on the road with you *Use one disk per account, project or client *Archive old files and e-mail *Share large files with co-workers, friends and service bureaus *Keep finances and business records safe and secure *Give your kids disks for school work and other stuff *Save absolutely anything you don=92t want to throw away *Store and run all your games *Five disks should get you started! ZIP TOOLS MAKES ORGANIZING YOUR STUFF EASY: Stop fumbling through piles of disks to find a particular file. Let your Zip tools software do it for you. Its cataloging feature tracks all your files -- even after you remove the disk from the drive. When you need them, simply search the catalog to locate the appropriate disk. Express "check-in" your Zip drive when you travel. Zip Guest lets you quickly use your Zip drive temporarily on anyone's computer. This makes moving large amounts of information from computer to computer easier then ever. Keep confidential information confidential! Zip tools gives you the option of password protecting any of your Zip Disks. That way you can keep sensitive information safe. WHEN AND HOW MUCH? Iomega expects to begin shipping the ZIP drive in the end of Quarter-1, or the beginning of Quarter-2 of this year. The estimated street price of the drive is about $199.95. This includes the starter Zip disk (100MB) with the Iomega Zip Tools software. Additional 100MB capacity disks will be available for an estimated street price of $19.95. ZIP ACCESSORIES: *100MB Zip disks *25MB Zip disks *Zip zoom scsi accelerator -- use with Zip scsi drive to get maximize Zip drive performance on your PC. *Zip cases to transport your Zip drive *Extra cables and power supplies *OS/2 software SPECIFICATIONS: Unlimited capacity - - uses 100MB or 25MB Zip disks Fast - - use it like your hard drive ZIP SCSI DRIVE: Average seek time: =09- 29 milliseconds (using 100MB disks) =09- 16 milliseconds (using 25MB disks) Sustained transfer rate: =09- 0.79MB/sec minimum =09- 1.41MB/sec maximum Typical throughput =09- up to 60MB/minute ZIP PARALLEL PORT DRIVE: Average seek time: =09- 29 milliseconds (using 100MB disks) =09- 16 milliseconds (using 25MB disks) Sustained transfer rate: =09- 0.79MB/sec minimum =09- 1.41MB/sec maximum Typical throughput =09- up to 20MB/minute PORTABLE: fits in your hand (7.10" x 5.35" x 1/47") weighs about 1 pound QUIET & ENERGY EFFICIENT: Uses Iomega=92s Silent Spin drive technology Automatic low-power mode uses less energy SCSI II MODEL: The SCSI II model works on Macintosh and IBM compatible PC's with a SCSI connection. The drive offers two 25-pin SCSI connectors for daisy-chaining, switchable SCSI ID address (5 or 6) and switchable termination. For best results on PC systems, use the Zip Zoom SCSI accelerator! IOMEGA QUALITY: *dependable Zip disk and Zip drive withstand the rigors of travel *limited lifetime warranty on Zip disks *one-year warranty on Zip drive ******************************************************************** that's it... enjoy... ttyl, Gregg From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 6 12:58:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27994; Mon, 6 Mar 95 12:58:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01321; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 12:47:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 12:47:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01311; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 12:47:03 -0500 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28570; Mon, 6 Mar 95 09:46:20 PST Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id JAA05221; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 09:46:18 -0800 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9503060946.ZM5219@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 09:46:17 -0800 In-Reply-To: KD Williams "Greetings!" (Mar 4, 1:42am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: KD Williams Subject: World-wide power adapters Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mar 4, 1:42am, KD Williams wrote: > Subject: Greetings! > Second, I am co-owner of a company called InComm that specializes in > marketing products specifically for mobile professionals. Our products, > include Inverters, Telephone Loop Current Testers (these identify digital and > analog lines and also identify reversed polarity on analog ports), and most > importantly -- mobile travel kits. The travel kits include a variety of > tools such as a super lightweight parallel cable, worldwide power adapters, >-- End of excerpt from KD Williams KD, In reference to the world-wide power adapters, are these the run of the mill transformer types, or do they use some sort of power silicon. Transformer power adapters, like the ones you find in Sharper Image, do not compensate for the source power frequency, so you get a big legal disclaimer on the package somewhere that clearly states that you should NOT plug electronic devices into the adapter. They are intended strictly for hair dryers and curling irons. While I've used these adapters with my ThinkPad all over the world, several power supply engineers have told me that I've just been lucky. I've never found a true frequency compensated, power silicon-based power adapter, but I would love to purchase one. -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 6 13:05:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28562; Mon, 6 Mar 95 13:05:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01906; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 12:55:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 12:54:59 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01892; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 12:54:54 -0500 Received: from dormnet.stu1.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 06 Mar 95 12:55:12 EST Received: from DORMNET/MAILQUEUE by dormnet.stu1.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.20); 6 Mar 95 12:54:46 GMT+7 Received: from MAILQUEUE by DORMNET (Mercury 1.20); 6 Mar 95 12:54:27 GMT+7 From: "Guy Farrell" Organization: UConn Residence Halls To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 12:54:23 EST Subject: Are Lithium Ion batteries avail... Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <804D0B4F30@dormnet.stu1.uconn.edu> I have an old 350 with a _very_ dead Ni-MH battery. Unless someone knows a method for rejuvination...Where and $ for Li Ion replacement? Thanks, Guy ...................................................................... . Guy W. Farrell . . Laboratory Science House . . University of Connecticut - Class of 199? . . . .E-mail: gfarrell@dormnet.stu1.uconn.edu . .V-mail: (203) 427-2864 . ...................................................................... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 6 13:41:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00301; Mon, 6 Mar 95 13:41:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04144; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 13:25:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 13:25:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04125; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 13:25:46 -0500 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29854; Mon, 6 Mar 95 10:25:05 PST Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id KAA05257; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 10:24:51 -0800 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9503061024.ZM5255@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 10:24:50 -0800 In-Reply-To: "Guy Farrell" "Are Lithium Ion batteries avail..." (Mar 6, 12:54pm) References: <804D0B4F30@dormnet.stu1.uconn.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: "Guy Farrell" Subject: Re: Are Lithium Ion batteries avail... Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mar 6, 12:54pm, Guy Farrell wrote: > Subject: Are Lithium Ion batteries avail... > I have an old 350 with a _very_ dead Ni-MH battery. Unless someone > knows a method for rejuvination...Where and $ for Li Ion replacement? >-- End of excerpt from Guy Farrell Lithium Ion batteries are still not ready for prime-time. There is a serious problem with the chemical stability in current Lithium Ion batteries, such as the Sony batteries which Dell uses. These batteries have a very short life-span, and only a marginally better current density. Two American companies, including ATT, are developing Lithium Ion batteries with solid chemical packs. These batteries have lifetimes exceeding Nickel Metal Hydrides, and 4 times greater current densities. It's funny that Dell hasn't learned it's lesson from the last time it gambled on adolescent battery technology. Dell released a notebook several years ago before NMH was ready for mass production. Back then there were problems with the electrolyte leaking out of the battery and exploding when it contacted air! Dell had to pull thousands of laptops off the market, and never released them until the Sony designed Lattitude. -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 6 16:16:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14015; Mon, 6 Mar 95 16:16:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19466; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 16:06:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 16:06:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19454; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 16:06:21 -0500 Received: from phakt.usc.edu (whittle@phakt.usc.edu [128.125.253.144]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA13556; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 13:06:15 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by phakt.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id NAA08294; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 13:06:11 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199503062106.NAA08294@phakt.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Are Lithium Ion batteries avail... To: george@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 13:06:11 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9503061024.ZM5255@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> from "Robert George" at Mar 6, 95 10:24:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On Mar 6, 12:54pm, Guy Farrell wrote: > > Subject: Are Lithium Ion batteries avail... > > I have an old 350 with a _very_ dead Ni-MH battery. Unless someone > > knows a method for rejuvination...Where and $ for Li Ion replacement? > >-- End of excerpt from Guy Farrell > > Lithium Ion batteries are still not ready for prime-time. > > There is a serious problem with the chemical stability in current Lithium Ion > batteries, such as the Sony batteries which Dell uses. These batteries have > very short life-span, and only a marginally better current density. So how's Toshiba doing with their little lithium-ion batteries that are in its small subnotebooks (that use the Trackpoint)? In addition to your above comments, my father (who was a design engineer for a major battery producer as recently as a year ago--they make batteries for lots of the biggies to put their names on, including Motorola's radios & cellular phones) made a very disappointing statement to me. It seems that those of us who use ThinkPads with NiH batteries are not likely to benefit from the perfection of a lithium-ion battery. The reason is that lithium-ion batteries require a very different charging cycle methodology than do NiH or NiCd. Hence, unless you can change the way the ThinkPad sends juice to the battery for recharging (not likely-- that's the kind of thing that is hard-wired), than it won't be able to use a lithium-ion battery. Time to buy a new computer designed to handle the new kind of battery. ;) The good news is that perhaps farther into the future there is a truly *fascinating* battery technology coming available (no, I'm not talking about Zinc-Air). Tentatively, they were calling it "Lithium-Polymer". The beauty of Lithium-Polymer is that it not only has a higher current density, but is *far* more flexible in terms of its form factor. Current battery technologies are *very* dependent on arranging the various cells in a particular physical way. Polymer will do away with that necessity, allowing very odd and strangely-shaped batteries to be available, and making things like notebook-computer design much more flexible as well. ----- _____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | I don't recycle. | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | I'm a consumer; | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | dammit-- | right, they should be yours too.) | I consume! | ----------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 6 17:18:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17457; Mon, 6 Mar 95 17:18:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24247; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 16:55:52 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 16:55:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24230; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 16:55:48 -0500 Received: from @hooked.net (webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA00587 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 13:55:43 -0800 Message-Id: <199503062155.NAA00587@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 06 Mar 1995 13:55:42 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: noisy hard drive? Yikes, had a long night for the thinkpad last night, was running it until 5am.. turned it on this afternoon, and the drive is exceptionally noisy.. not the drive accessing noise, but just a constant noise while it's spinning.. Is this common? Do I need to have IBM fix it? Much thanks.. -- ______________________________________________________________ jesse montrose login status available at http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 6 17:58:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20481; Mon, 6 Mar 95 17:58:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29635; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 17:46:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 17:46:35 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alpha.xerox.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29594; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 17:46:33 -0500 Received: from algonquin ([13.2.17.149]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14484(6)>; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 14:45:50 PST X-Sender: mdixon@kanga X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: mdixon@parc.xerox.com (Mike Dixon) Subject: experience with docks? Message-Id: <95Mar6.144550pst."14484(6)"@alpha.xerox.com> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 14:45:50 PST i haven't received any replies to my message about docks & external video cards; does that mean noone's ever tried it? would you *expect* it to work? does anyone have any experience with docks at all? does the dock II actually exist? (i've see specs for it in several places, but never a picture -- what does it look like?) enquiring minds want to know. .mike. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 6 18:51:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24536; Mon, 6 Mar 95 18:51:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04122; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 18:41:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 18:41:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from houws001.shl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04106; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 18:41:46 -0500 Received: from houmg001.shl.com by houws001.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA11672; Mon, 6 Mar 95 17:41:41 CST Received: by houmg001.shl.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F5BBA19@houmg001.shl.com>; Mon, 06 Mar 95 17:42:49 PST From: NELSON Tim To: tp750 Subject: RE: noisy hard drive? Date: Mon, 06 Mar 95 15:28:00 PST Message-Id: <2F5BBA19@houmg001.shl.com> Encoding: 35 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 In our local cluster of 750s, one third have, at various times, mysteriously started making a grinding noise, a constant higher pitched noise while spinning. In all cases, within a week, the noise just as mysteriously went away. On the positive side, it reminds us to do backups. ---------------------------------------------------- Timothy Nelson Chief Scientist, SHL Systemhouse Inc. internet: tnelson@shl.com ---------------------------------------------------- ---------- > From: owner-tp750 > To: tp750 > Subject: noisy hard drive? > Date: Monday, March 06, 1995 1:55PM > > Yikes, had a long night for the thinkpad last night, was running it until > 5am.. turned it on this afternoon, and the drive is exceptionally noisy.. > not the drive accessing noise, but just a constant noise while it's spinning.. > > Is this common? Do I need to have IBM fix it? > > Much thanks.. > -- > ______________________________________________________________ > jesse montrose > login status available at http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home > I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 6 23:07:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14028; Mon, 6 Mar 95 23:07:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22635; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 22:56:52 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 22:56:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22623; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 22:56:47 -0500 Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA27693; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 03:56:45 GMT Received: from slip120-204.mo.us.ibm.net(129.37.120.204) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smakigDmb; Tue Mar 7 03:56:40 1995 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 95 17:56:28 PST From: KD Williams Subject: Power Adapters To: TP750 X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I had an interesting question come up recently on the power adapters for the TP. You may have just read it, and I wanted to get your thoughts on this. My understanding of the Power Adapter that comes with the ThinkPad 75x is that it is capable of supporting voltage from 100-240V AC with a cycle of 50-60 Hz. I'm assuming that this pretty much covers the world. Are there any countries around the world that differ from these specifications? ||-----------------------------------------------------|| || InComm E-mail: Kris || || ****** Sensible Solutions || || Information for the || || Communication Road Warrior || ||-----------------------------------------------------|| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 6 23:09:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14036; Mon, 6 Mar 95 23:09:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22792; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 23:00:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 23:00:25 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22770; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 23:00:23 -0500 From: Received: from MILANESE.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA24140; Mon, 6 Mar 95 23:00:20 EST Received: by milanese.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA01035; Mon, 6 Mar 95 22:59:59 -0500 Message-Id: <9503070359.AA01035@milanese.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: For Sale : 340M HD upgrade Date: Mon, 06 Mar 1995 22:59:57 EST I bought this for a 750c/170 that I purchased a few weeks ago. Recently I saw the 755c/340 for nearly the same price so I sent back the 750 and I no longer need the hard drive upgrade: Two weeks old. IBM part #66G2849 - fits the 360,750,755 One year warrenty from IBM. $360 plus shipping & COD. Bill Daughton -------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 6 23:29:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15301; Mon, 6 Mar 95 23:29:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23620; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 23:12:05 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 23:12:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23610; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 23:11:59 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA02526 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Mon, 6 Mar 1995 23:11:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 23:11:26 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: Randal Whittle Cc: Robert George , TP Subject: Re: Are Lithium Ion batteries avail... In-Reply-To: <199503062106.NAA08294@phakt.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Mar 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > The good news is that perhaps farther into the future there is > a truly *fascinating* battery technology coming available (no, I'm not > talking about Zinc-Air). Tentatively, they were calling it > "Lithium-Polymer". The beauty of Lithium-Polymer is that it not only > has a higher current density, but is *far* more flexible in terms of > its form factor. Current battery technologies are *very* dependent > on arranging the various cells in a particular physical way. Polymer > will do away with that necessity, allowing very odd and strangely-shaped > batteries to be available, and making things like notebook-computer > design much more flexible as well. What about the lead acid batteries that IBM first used in the original Thinkpad 500 models? I remember that in PC Magazine's battery rundown test which gets about 1 hour 45 mins on the 755CE, the lead acid battery in the 500 lasted for 9 full hours and thats in a test to rundown the battery as quickly as possible. Unfortunately as we all know IBM discontinued the lead acid battery after only a few months and recalled all the 500 models and replaced them with standard Nickel Metal Hydride batteries with standard battery life of between 4 and 5. The vague reason given at the time was that the battery would refuse to accept a charge suddenly after only a few months of use. I don't know about other people but I would gladly accept a battery that lasts only 6 months if it gives me 9 hours per charge. Josh Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 6 23:34:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15908; Mon, 6 Mar 95 23:34:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24861; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 23:25:43 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 23:25:41 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24835; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 23:25:39 -0500 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17852; Mon, 6 Mar 95 20:24:51 PST Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id UAA05595; Mon, 6 Mar 1995 20:24:46 -0800 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9503062024.ZM5593@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 20:24:45 -0800 In-Reply-To: Joshua Hosseinoff "Re: Are Lithium Ion batteries avail..." (Mar 6, 11:11pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Joshua Hosseinoff , Randal Whittle Subject: Re: Are Lithium Ion batteries avail... Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Randy, Josh, > The good news is that perhaps farther into the future there is > a truly *fascinating* battery technology coming available (no, I'm not > talking about Zinc-Air). Tentatively, they were calling it > "Lithium-Polymer". Both the American ventures I read about (ATT, and "American Battery Company"?) were using variations of the Lithium Polymer. From the article I read, (I'm trying to remember where) the big issues are safety. The cathode in the Sony battery is a sheet of Lithium, so if the battery is cracked, the Lithium is exposed to water vapor in the air and you get an explosion. The Lithium Polymer battery is a solid sheet of cathode/electrolyte/anode polymer, so there's virtually no safety hazard, but its exceptionally difficult to get the electrons to flow through the polymer. Both companies seem pretty close though... >What about the lead acid batteries that IBM first used in the original >Thinkpad 500 models? Again, I think these were pulled for safety reasons. When lead-acid batteries leak, you get hydrogen gas... > The good news is that perhaps farther into the future there is > a truly *fascinating* battery technology coming available I truly hope so, everything else in this industry practically doubles in performance every six months, while the battery companies for years sold nothing but Nickel Cadmium. Robert -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 7 10:09:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28922; Tue, 7 Mar 95 10:09:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11760; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 09:59:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 09:59:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11749; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 09:59:18 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rm0jN-0004trC; Tue, 7 Mar 95 08:59 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rm0jL-0002nhC; Tue, 7 Mar 95 08:59 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rm0jK-0002wvC; Tue, 7 Mar 95 08:59 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: experience with docks? To: mdixon@parc.xerox.com (Mike Dixon) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 08:59:22 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <95Mar6.144550pst."14484(6)"@alpha.xerox.com> from "Mike Dixon" at Mar 6, 95 02:45:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > i haven't received any replies to my message about docks & external video > cards; does that mean noone's ever tried it? would you *expect* it to work? My understanding is that any video card which supports multiple cards on the same "bus" will work with the dock II. So far, the internal SVGA has been good enough for me. Thus I have not attempted to find a video card which will operate with the dock II. > does anyone have any experience with docks at all? does the dock II > actually exist? Yes > (i've see specs for it in several places, but never a picture -- what does > it look like?) enquiring minds want to know. The IBM PC Co. catalog has a picture of the dock II in it. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 7 12:36:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10412; Tue, 7 Mar 95 12:36:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25002; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 12:27:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 12:27:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.core.ntt.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24992; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 12:27:23 -0500 Received: by mail.core.ntt.jp (8.6.10/COREMAIL.5); Wed, 8 Mar 1995 02:27:19 +0900 Received: by gulag.brl.ntt.jp (8.6.10/core*brl.mx14) with TCP; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 02:27:18 +0900 Received: by will.ntt.jp (4.1/core*brl.s7) with TCP; Wed, 8 Mar 95 02:27:17 JST Message-Id: <9503071727.AA19479@will.ntt.jp> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Switching to VGA (OS/2) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 95 02:27:16 +0900 From: IWASAKI Yuzuru I want to switch to VGA from SVGA to intall OS/2 CSD on my TP750C. I tried setvga command. The command itself worked correctly, but after rebooting, OS/2 hungs up before PM screen and make low freq. beep. I'm using Japanese version of OS/2 2.11. Is it common problem or local one? Is there any solution? ------------------------------------------------- Iwasaki Yuzuru {+81-462,0462}-40-3526 FAX:{+81-462,0462}-40-4719 iwasaki@will.NTT.jp ------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 7 14:22:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17176; Tue, 7 Mar 95 14:22:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01675; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 13:52:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 13:52:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01642; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 13:52:53 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA02421; Tue, 7 Mar 95 11:52:13 MST Date: Tue, 7 Mar 95 11:52:13 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9503071852.AA02421@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Switching to VGA (OS/2) > I want to switch to VGA from SVGA to intall OS/2 CSD on my TP750C. > I tried setvga command. Is there any solution? Try this instead: Reboot your machine ('CTRL-ALT-DEL'), and press 'ALT-F1' when the retangular white square appears in the upper left corner of the display. At this point you will be presented with a menu containing a variety of options, one of which is to reset your display to VGA. Press 'V' and you should be all set. Good luck in applying that CSD...I found that the installation was somewhat problematical on my TP360. Be sure to make a backup copy of your CONFIG.SYS file so that you'll be prepared in the event that something goes awry. Regards, _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | kyeanopl@den.mmc.com Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | Denver, CO. 80201 | key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 7 17:41:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03126; Tue, 7 Mar 95 17:41:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18934; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:17:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:17:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18924; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:17:30 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA19739; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 16:17:18 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:17:56 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <62277.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Switching to VGA (OS/2) In message Tue, 7 Mar 95 11:52:13 MST, kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) writes: >> I want to switch to VGA from SVGA to intall OS/2 CSD on my TP750C. >> I tried setvga command. Is there any solution? > > Try this instead: > > Reboot your machine ('CTRL-ALT-DEL'), and press 'ALT-F1' when the > retangular white square appears in the upper left corner of the That only work with OS/2 3.0, not 2.1. Try the selective install to reinstall VGA. ______________________________________________________________________ |\ _____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Um ... no." -- Outfielder Darryl Strawberry's | | | jokim@mit.edu hesitant reply when asked by a judge if he | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu had taken drugs in the past few days. | \|______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 7 18:10:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04192; Tue, 7 Mar 95 18:10:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18971; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:17:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:17:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18949; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:17:52 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA19756; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 16:17:49 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:18:26 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <62307.jokim@mit.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Are Lithium Ion batteries avail... In message Mon, 6 Mar 1995 23:11:26 -0500 (EST), Joshua Hosseinoff writes: > What about the lead acid batteries that IBM first used in the original > Thinkpad 500 models? I remember that in PC Magazine's battery rundown > test which gets about 1 hour 45 mins on the 755CE, the lead acid battery > in the 500 lasted for 9 full hours and thats in a test to rundown the > battery as quickly as possible. Unfortunately as we all know IBM I think that's more a function of lower power draw by the 500. The TP750 mono got 5 hours 30 min in the same test (I was averaging 5h 10m before I bought a memory upgrade). Same battery as the 755CE. At work I run into a lot of battery energy density charts for autonomous subs and per unit weight lead-acid is near the bottom. Progressively better are NiCd, Alkaline, NiMH, and Li in that order. ______________________________________________________________________ |\ _____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Um ... no." -- Outfielder Darryl Strawberry's | | | jokim@mit.edu hesitant reply when asked by a judge if he | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu had taken drugs in the past few days. | \|______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 7 19:22:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10629; Tue, 7 Mar 95 19:22:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26524; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 19:05:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 19:05:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dns004.ford.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26501; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 19:05:41 -0500 Received: from sun1.apo.ford.com (sun1old.apo.ford.com [19.55.14.24]) by dns004.ford.com (8.6.7/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA21164 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 19:05:31 -0500 Received: from ren0010.so.ford.com by sun1.apo.ford.com (5.0/Ford 2.0) via id AA00464; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 18:58:45 +0500 Received: from REN0010/PMAIL by ren0010.so.ford.com (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 7 Mar 95 19:04:30 +1100 Received: from PMAIL by REN0010 (Mercury 1.11); Tue, 7 Mar 95 19:04:23 +1100 From: "Adam Wilkinson" To: "John H. Kim" , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 19:04:13 EST Subject: Re: Are Lithium Ion batteries avail... Reply-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Confirm-Reading-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <5343F5511C@ren0010.so.ford.com> > Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:18:26 -0500 (EST) > From: "John H. Kim" > Reply-to: jokim@mit.edu > To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU > Subject: Re: Are Lithium Ion batteries avail... > In message Mon, 6 Mar 1995 23:11:26 -0500 (EST), > Joshua Hosseinoff writes: > > > What about the lead acid batteries that IBM first used in the original > > Thinkpad 500 models? I remember that in PC Magazine's battery rundown > > test which gets about 1 hour 45 mins on the 755CE, the lead acid battery > > in the 500 lasted for 9 full hours and thats in a test to rundown the > > battery as quickly as possible. Unfortunately as we all know IBM > > I think that's more a function of lower power draw by the 500. The TP750 > mono got 5 hours 30 min in the same test (I was averaging 5h 10m before I > bought a memory upgrade). Same battery as the 755CE. At work I run into a Not true, the 750 and 755CE have different batteries! > lot of battery energy density charts for autonomous subs and per unit > weight lead-acid is near the bottom. Progressively better are NiCd, > Alkaline, NiMH, and Li in that order. -- Adam Lee Wilkinson Portable Computing Technology Specialist Ford Motor Co. - Marketing & Sales Systems awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 7 21:21:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18586; Tue, 7 Mar 95 21:21:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03926; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 21:06:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 21:06:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03916; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 21:06:11 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA24415; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 20:06:08 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 21:06:47 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <76008.jokim@mit.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Are Lithium Ion batteries avail... In message Tue, 7 Mar 1995 19:04:13 EST, "Adam Wilkinson" writes: >> I think that's more a function of lower power draw by the 500. The >> TP750 mono got 5 hours 30 min in the same test (I was averaging 5h 10m >> before I bought a memory upgrade). Same battery as the 755CE. At >> work I run into a > > Not true, the 750 and 755CE have different batteries! Sorry about the mistake. How many amp-hours is the 755ce battery rated for? The 750 battery says 3.3 amp-hours. ______________________________________________________________________ |\ _____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Um ... no." -- Outfielder Darryl Strawberry's | | | jokim@mit.edu hesitant reply when asked by a judge if he | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu had taken drugs in the past few days. | \|______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 7 23:26:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27232; Tue, 7 Mar 95 23:26:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12413; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 23:12:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 23:12:15 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.core.ntt.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12394; Tue, 7 Mar 1995 23:12:12 -0500 Received: by mail.core.ntt.jp (8.6.10/COREMAIL.5); Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:12:09 +0900 Received: by gulag.brl.ntt.jp (8.6.10/core*brl.mx14) with TCP; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:12:08 +0900 Received: by will.ntt.jp (4.1/core*brl.s7) with TCP; Wed, 8 Mar 95 13:12:07 JST Message-Id: <9503080412.AA26395@will.ntt.jp> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: ["John H. Kim": Re: Switching to VGA (OS/2)] Date: Wed, 08 Mar 95 13:12:07 +0900 From: IWASAKI Yuzuru >> Try the selective install to reinstall VGA. I have tried VGA instation by \os2\install\install.exe (form PM), but after rebooting, OS/2 stop before PM screen. Have any one successed in setting VGA for OS/2 after SVGA installation. I want to know this is a version specific problem or a common problem. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 00:47:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03795; Wed, 8 Mar 95 00:47:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18037; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 00:28:05 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 00:28:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18027; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 00:28:02 -0500 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.10/8.6.10+PanixU1.0) id AAA20201; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 00:27:46 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 00:27:45 -0500 (EST) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: IBM DOS 7.0 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any reason why I should upgrade the IBM DOS v6.3 on my 755ce to v7.0? I salmost bought it the other day at CompUSA. Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 01:28:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06244; Wed, 8 Mar 95 01:28:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20800; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 01:21:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 01:21:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from werple.mira.net.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20746; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 01:20:41 -0500 Received: (from guardian@localhost) by werple.mira.net.au (8.6.10/8.6.9) id RAA25404; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:20:17 +1100 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:16:54 +1100 (EST) From: Nick Allan Subject: dram again To: thinkpad mailinglist Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all After a lot of stuffing around, I finally got my 4mb dram card for the thinkpad 750. But of course it doesn't seem to be working. I'd just like to make sure I have done everything I'm supposed to do to install it. I took out the thinkpads floppy drive and slid the dram card into the socket under the drive bay. I made sure it was in all the way. Put the floppy drive back in and booted the system. Should the dram automatically be there now or am I supposed to do something else? Thanks for any help anyone can give me with this. Regards Nick Guardian@werple.mira.net.au From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 03:19:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11558; Wed, 8 Mar 95 03:19:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26583; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 03:12:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 03:12:14 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26555; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 03:12:05 -0500 Received: from hp.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA48453; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 01:05:53 -0700 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.38.193.4//ident-1.0) id AA25641; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 01:15:28 -0700 Message-Id: <9503080815.AA25641@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: dram again To: guardian@werple.mira.net.au (Nick Allan) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 01:15:28 -0700 (MST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Nick Allan" at Mar 8, 95 05:16:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hi all > After a lot of stuffing around, I finally got my 4mb dram card for the > thinkpad 750. > But of course it doesn't seem to be working. > I'd just like to make sure I have done everything I'm supposed to do to > install it. > I took out the thinkpads floppy drive and slid the dram card into the > socket under the drive bay. I made sure it was in all the way. Put the > floppy drive back in and booted the system. > Should the dram automatically be there now or am I supposed to do > something else? > > Thanks for any help anyone can give me with this. > > Regards Nick > > Guardian@werple.mira.net.au Are you sure its in all the way. I had trouble with memory on a 360CSE until I finally got mad and *REALLY* pushed it in and then it worked fine. Another thing to try is to hold F1 right after you turn on the computer. This takes you into IBM's setup/testing stuff. You can check the RAM there. Good luck! +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 05:55:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19077; Wed, 8 Mar 95 05:55:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA12256; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 05:47:27 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 05:47:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA12245; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 05:47:23 -0500 Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA40770; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 10:47:20 GMT Received: from slip136-140.pt.uk.ibm.net(129.37.136.140) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaWCsC92; Wed Mar 8 10:46:05 1995 Received: by localhost (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.13B/1.0um) id AA0115; Wed, 08 Mar 95 11:40:44 -0800 Message-Id: <9503081940.AA0115@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 08 Mar 95 11:40:09 -0100 From: "Alberto Enna" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: "Alberto Enna" X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <114_60_1_794680811> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 08:54:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27752; Wed, 8 Mar 95 08:54:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20929; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 08:37:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 08:37:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dns004.ford.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20918; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 08:37:02 -0500 Received: from sun1.apo.ford.com (sun1old.apo.ford.com [19.55.14.24]) by dns004.ford.com (8.6.7/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA28831 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 08:36:47 -0500 Received: from ren0010.so.ford.com by sun1.apo.ford.com (5.0/Ford 2.0) via id AA01247; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 08:30:01 +0500 Received: from REN0010/PMAIL by ren0010.so.ford.com (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 8 Mar 95 8:35:45 +1100 Received: from PMAIL by REN0010 (Mercury 1.11); Wed, 8 Mar 95 8:35:41 +1100 From: "Adam Wilkinson" To: "John H. Kim" , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 08:35:31 EST Subject: Re: Are Lithium Ion batteries avail... Reply-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Confirm-Reading-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <60C9EF6E7B@ren0010.so.ford.com> > Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 21:06:47 -0500 (EST) > From: "John H. Kim" > Reply-to: jokim@mit.edu > To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU > Subject: Re: Are Lithium Ion batteries avail... > In message Tue, 7 Mar 1995 19:04:13 EST, > "Adam Wilkinson" writes: > > >> I think that's more a function of lower power draw by the 500. The > >> TP750 mono got 5 hours 30 min in the same test (I was averaging 5h 10m > >> before I bought a memory upgrade). Same battery as the 755CE. At > >> work I run into a > > > > Not true, the 750 and 755CE have different batteries! > > Sorry about the mistake. How many amp-hours is the 755ce battery rated for? > The 750 battery says 3.3 amp-hours. Supposedly its 3.5 AH. -- Adam Lee Wilkinson Portable Computing Technology Specialist Ford Motor Co. - Marketing & Sales Systems awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 11:42:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07590; Wed, 8 Mar 95 11:42:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06182; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:31:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:31:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom23.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06171; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:30:59 -0500 Received: from netcom23.netcom.com by netcom23.netcom.com (8.6.10/Netcom) id IAA28723; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 08:30:23 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 08:30:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199503081630.IAA28723@netcom23.netcom.com> X-Sender: dvchan@netcom23.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) Subject: No sound in Windoze (OS/2)??? help! no sound in win-os2! BUT I finally got OS/2 to recognize the Dock III and my Syquest.. It took 3 hours w/ three IBM techs on the phone at the same time working together to get it working! Well...even though it was a pain in the *ss...I have to say, I really think that IBM pulled through. I'll definitely buy another IBM! Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 12:18:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09590; Wed, 8 Mar 95 12:18:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07682; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:49:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:49:04 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07671; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:49:00 -0500 Received: by chorus.chorus.fr; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:48:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:48:33 +0100 From: Stephane Eranian Message-Id: <199503081648.AA20572@chorus.chorus.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Looking for a good DRAM vendor... I am thinking of buying an memory extension for my TP360CSE. 4MB is really too small to run Linux !! I am looking for people with experience with such operation. I would like to set up a list of dealers known to have good price *AND* good product *AND* with a good quality of service (short delays). I recently show some adds in the January issue from PC magazine. Prices can range from $880 to $659 for the 16MB IC DRAM extension and from $400 to $250 for the 8MB one. The lowest price was advertised by <> at $659 for the 16MB (anyone tried this dealer already ?). I wonder what can of product is this ? A real good quality IBM or a strange taiwainese clone ? Anyway, I remember that the 360 Series does not manage the parity bit on RAM. Is this true ? Can people send me or to the list (I think it can be worth) the name of the dealer they order their extension from as well as the name of the manufacturer ? Moreover, any experience with ordering from outside US is welcomed !! Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 12:39:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10717; Wed, 8 Mar 95 12:39:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10321; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 12:22:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 12:22:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from stortek.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10311; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 12:22:18 -0500 Received: from deathstar.stortek.com ([129.80.18.204]) by stortek.com with SMTP id AA00771 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 8 Mar 1995 10:21:35 -0700 Received: from endor.stortek.com by deathstar.stortek.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-SESA-Main-0001) id AA24259; Wed, 8 Mar 95 10:21:34 MST Date: Wed, 8 Mar 95 10:21:34 MST From: ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) Message-Id: <9503081721.AA24259@deathstar.stortek.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM DOS 7.0 > Is there any reason why I should upgrade the IBM DOS v6.3 on my 755ce to > v7.0? I salmost bought it the other day at CompUSA. I want it to get built-in Rexx! Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 13:37:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14385; Wed, 8 Mar 95 13:37:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14577; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:18:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:18:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom23.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14560; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:18:18 -0500 Received: from netcom23.netcom.com by netcom23.netcom.com (8.6.10/Netcom) id KAA16618; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 10:17:28 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 10:17:28 -0800 Message-Id: <199503081817.KAA16618@netcom23.netcom.com> X-Sender: dvchan@netcom23.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Stephane Eranian From: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Re: Looking for a good DRAM vendor... Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > >I am thinking of buying an memory extension for my TP360CSE. >4MB is really too small to run Linux !! I am looking for people >with experience with such operation. I would like to set up a list >of dealers known to have good price *AND* good product *AND* with a good >quality of service (short delays). > >I recently show some adds in the January issue from PC magazine. >Prices can range from $880 to $659 for the 16MB IC DRAM extension and >from $400 to $250 for the 8MB one. > >The lowest price was advertised by <> at >$659 for the 16MB (anyone tried this dealer already ?). I wonder what can >of product is this ? A real good quality IBM or a strange taiwainese clone ? > >Anyway, I remember that the 360 Series does not manage the parity bit on >RAM. Is this true ? > >Can people send me or to the list (I think it can be worth) the name of the >dealer they order their extension from as well as the name of the >manufacturer ? > >Moreover, any experience with ordering from outside US is welcomed !! > >Thanks. I ordered from First Source. The 32 Mb chip I got seems to work fine. Lifetime warranty, etc. on the memory. Because of the quake in Kobe, Japan, memory prices are rising, so the prices quoted there are lower than what you will probably get. I bargained down to $45 over the advertised price. Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 13:54:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15514; Wed, 8 Mar 95 13:54:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15626; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:31:07 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:31:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rocky.ucdavis.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15614; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:31:02 -0500 Received: by rocky.ucdavis.edu (8.6.10/UCD3.4) id KAA10923; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 10:26:39 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 10:26:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian K. Tarkington" X-Sender: sztarkin@rocky To: Brad Pepers Cc: Nick Allan , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: dram again In-Reply-To: <9503080815.AA25641@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Mar 1995, Brad Pepers wrote: > > Hi all > > After a lot of stuffing around, I finally got my 4mb dram card for the > > thinkpad 750. > > But of course it doesn't seem to be working. > > I'd just like to make sure I have done everything I'm supposed to do to > > install it. > > I took out the thinkpads floppy drive and slid the dram card into the > > socket under the drive bay. I made sure it was in all the way. Put the > > floppy drive back in and booted the system. > > Should the dram automatically be there now or am I supposed to do > > something else? > > > > Thanks for any help anyone can give me with this. > > > > Regards Nick > > > > Guardian@werple.mira.net.au > > Are you sure its in all the way. I had trouble with memory on a 360CSE > until I finally got mad and *REALLY* pushed it in and then it worked > fine. > > Another thing to try is to hold F1 right after you turn on the computer. > This takes you into IBM's setup/testing stuff. You can check the RAM > there. Good luck! > > +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ > | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | > | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | > | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | > | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | > +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ > You must also increase the size of the hibernation file. See the TP instruction manual. _________________________ Brian K. Tarkington bktarkington@ucdavis.edu 74033.2574@compuserve.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 14:13:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17021; Wed, 8 Mar 95 14:13:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17323; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:59:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:59:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po7.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17313; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:59:08 -0500 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po7.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA08339 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:59:05 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:59:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix16.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix16.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix16.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix16.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:57:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:57:37 -0500 (EST) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: linux on tp755 I would like to try linux on my tp755cs it has a 3com pcmcia ethernet card which I would like to use to connect to school network my harddrive is only 170meg big is that enough? is there an ftp site that has the necessary files to install linux on tp755's? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sang Kim Je veux que tout le monde sache que j'aime sk6k@andrew.cmu.edu Alexis Hayes, la princesse de l'ecole de Denver (WOW, quelle femme!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 14:22:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17392; Wed, 8 Mar 95 14:22:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17250; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:57:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:57:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17239; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:57:29 -0500 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10974; Wed, 8 Mar 95 10:56:36 PST Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id KAA06760; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 10:56:23 -0800 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9503081056.ZM6758@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 10:56:23 -0800 In-Reply-To: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) "Re: Looking for a good DRAM vendor..." (Mar 8, 10:17am) References: <199503081817.KAA16618@netcom23.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: DRAM profiteering Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Because of the quake in Kobe, Japan, memory prices are rising This is truly sick. As a result of an earthquake six weeks ago in Japan, the world-wide price of DRAM's, most of which were probably made at least a year ago, are rising. Not to mention that Korea is now the world's largest producer of DRAM's This reminds me of when a single resin factory exploded in Japan two years ago. World-wide IC prices skyrocketed. Even the American chip vendors jumped on the bandwagon. R. -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 14:47:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19145; Wed, 8 Mar 95 14:47:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18959; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 14:22:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 14:22:09 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18949; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 14:22:08 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rmR31-0004u8C; Wed, 8 Mar 95 13:05 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rmR2z-0002njC; Wed, 8 Mar 95 13:05 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rmR2y-0002wvC; Wed, 8 Mar 95 13:05 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: No sound in Windoze (OS/2)??? To: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:05:23 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <199503081630.IAA28723@netcom23.netcom.com> from "Derek V. Chan" at Mar 8, 95 08:30:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I finally got OS/2 to recognize the Dock III and my Syquest.. Dock III? -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 14:57:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19478; Wed, 8 Mar 95 14:57:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19553; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 14:30:25 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 14:30:23 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19536; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 14:30:20 -0500 Received: (from postman@localhost) by andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA16430 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 14:30:17 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 14:30:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix16.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 14:28:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix16.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 14:28:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix16.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix16.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 14:28:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 14:28:00 -0500 (EST) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: sigma data and hard drives what is the phone number of sigma data? and approx price for the available sizes are the harddrives scarce? would I have to wait a while to get one if I do order? do these fit without doing anything weird to the disk or my computer? also what's this hoopla I read about os/2 and harddrives bigger ~500mb... thanks in advance ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sang Kim Je veux que tout le monde sache que j'aime sk6k@andrew.cmu.edu Alexis Hayes, la princesse de l'ecole de Denver (WOW, quelle femme!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 17:29:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01545; Wed, 8 Mar 95 17:29:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29564; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 16:46:57 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 16:46:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29554; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 16:46:49 -0500 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 2585; Wed, 08 Mar 95 16:46:46 EST Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 5989; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 16:46:46 EST Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Wed, 08 Mar 95 15:09:07 EST Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA27999; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 15:09:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 15:09:07 -0500 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9503082009.AA27999@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Derek V. Chan's message of Wed, 8 Mar 1995 10:17:28 -0800 <199503081817.KAA16618@netcom23.netcom.com> Subject: Looking for a good DRAM vendor... >Because of the quake in Kobe, Japan, memory prices are rising, so the prices >quoted there are lower than what you will probably get. I bargained down to >$45 over the advertised price. That is total B.S.!! It has nothing to do with the earthquake, the ad price is ALWAYS lower than what they actually say on the phone. --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 17:42:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03881; Wed, 8 Mar 95 17:42:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03333; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:20:36 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:20:34 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03317; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:20:29 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id RAA19898; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:23:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:23:44 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Sang H Kim Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: sigma data and hard drives In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Mar 1995, Sang H Kim wrote: > what is the phone number of sigma data? > and approx price for the available sizes As always, http://shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "I timed it. It took 22 seconds for him to hate you." - Chicago Hope ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 18:24:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09034; Wed, 8 Mar 95 18:24:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08062; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 18:09:36 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 18:09:35 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from empire.texas.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08052; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 18:09:32 -0500 Received: from millenium.texas.net (root@millenium.texas.net [204.96.20.3]) by empire.texas.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id RAA04375 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:11:24 -0600 Received: from dialnet31.texas.net (dialnet31.texas.net [204.96.20.131]) by millenium.texas.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA13657 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:11:29 -0600 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:11:29 -0600 Message-Id: <199503082311.RAA13657@millenium.texas.net> X-Sender: iws08738@texas.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: iws08738@texas.net (Ed Holub) Subject: Introduction and Request for Help Hello, I have recently subscribed to this list and per the request just wanted to explain a little about the environment I am in. I work in the Intelligent Workstation Technical Support group of a large Insurance and Financial Services Company. In addition to over 8,000 PC's, we have an installed base of approximately 100 ThinkPads (a mix of 700/720/750/755/360's). Most of the high-end boxes being used by programmers and analysts in our IS Department and are running OS/2 2.11 or WARP. Most of the rest are running DOS/Windows. We are expecting to be installing and supporting hundreds of Notebooks in the coming year. We also have a growing number of executives who use ThinkPads as a single workstation for in and out of the office. Many of them have docking stations and a few have port replicators. We are struggling with the issue of software installation and support on Notebooks. Our current methodology for desktop workstations is to wipe the hard drive when it comes in and install either DOS/Windows or OS/2 (and applications) over our Token Ring network. We are primarily a LAN Server-based shop and use a DLR client boot disk to pull down DOS/Windows. For OS/2 we are using the CID process and Netview DM/2 to push the operating system down from code servers (also on the Token Ring). All applications are also installed over the network. Now comes the part where I am hoping to get some assistance from this group. ThinkPads today come with a huge amount of preloaded software. I think the last time I checked a 755CE had about 300MB used when delivered. If we wipe the hard drive to install our configuration of DOS/Windows (or OS/2) we have "lost" all of the preloaded demos, tutorials, and of course the approximately 15 "applications" such as Taxi, Organizer, and Prodigy. Many of our users are requesting some or all of the preloaded software. So, we are considering a couple of options. We can continue to wipe the drive and create a method to re-install the preloaded software (which could take a lot of effort). Or, we could try and apply the customizations we require (such as PCMCIA modem support, Token Ring and LAN Requester support, and or standard terminal emulation software) on top of the preload. But, what if the hard drive dies six months or a year from now. How do we get the Notebook back to its original state. Anyway, I don't want to ramble on too much longer, but we would be very interested in hearing from any sites that are in a similar large corporate environment. How are you handling these or related issues? Thanks, Ed Holub Network Systems Programmer USAA 210-456-3895 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 18:28:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09509; Wed, 8 Mar 95 18:28:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08012; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 18:09:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 18:08:59 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from village.slip.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07987; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 18:08:55 -0500 Received: by village.slip.uiuc.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0285; Wed, 08 Mar 95 17:01:59 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Subject: New OS/2 driver bug? Date: Mon, 06 Mar 1995 23:45:32 -0500 Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Message-Id: Lines: 10 Has anyone else had any difficulties with the new OS/2 WD video drivers? Specifically, when using 64k colors, do you get misplaced widgets with seamless Windows? Also, if you use PMView, do you get an inverse palette with thumbnail view? --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / Compuserve: 73672,2111 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 19:28:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14360; Wed, 8 Mar 95 19:28:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08111; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 18:10:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 18:10:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from village.slip.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08051; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 18:09:29 -0500 Received: by village.slip.uiuc.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0287; Wed, 08 Mar 95 17:02:20 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Subject: New Thinkpad FAQ pre-release Date: Tue, 07 Mar 1995 19:59:27 -0500 Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Message-Id: Lines: 1129 This is the current status of the new Thinkpad FAQ. Although it's not complete, I think it's important for me to get this updated copy out. If anyone has problems with a message of this size, let me know, and I'll cut it into pieces. Also notice the missing information. Much of it is simply not finished (and some of it can even be found in the old FAQ) so do not mail me missing information yet. I will mail a list of questions which I do not know the answers to soon after the final FAQ is nearer to completion. Also notice that the general notebook questions (such as how do you clean a screen and is there a battery memory effect) have been moved to another FAQ which I'm also working on -- a general notebook FAQ. But I do encourage you to send me any questions that you think belong in the FAQ. ====================================================================== IBM THINKPAD SERIES FAQ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Maintained by Sean Chou (schou@uiuc.edu) Disclaimer: I am not an IBM employee and do not represent IBM in any manner. Although I try to be as accurate as possible, I cannot guarantee the accuracy of this information. The Thinkpad mail list and I do not claim any responsibility for whatever may occur as a result of this FAQ. The organization of this FAQ is major parts centered and separated by dashes, sections separated by dashes with the section head in all capital letters with the subhead in standard type. ====================================================================== SECTION HEADINGS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A. FAQ Info B. Hardware C. Audio and Multimedia D. Expansion E. Operating Systems F. Known Problems G. Where To Go For: ====================================================================== TABLE OF CONTENTS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A. FAQ Info A.1. What does does this FAQ cover? A.2. Where can I get this FAQ? A.3. Who maintains this FAQ? A.4. When was it last updated? B. Hardware B.1. Machine Specs and General B.1.1. What are the various Thinkpads? B.1.2. What CPUs do Thinkpads use? B.1.3. What are the dimensions and how much do they weigh? B.1.4. Is the floppy/hard drive/battery removable? B.1.5. How easy is it to take out the floppy, hard drive, and battery? B.1.6. Is there a reset button? B.1.7. Can I shut off the hard drive while leaving the screen on? B.1.8. Why are the keyboard letters and symbols are starting to come off. B.1.9. How can I secure my Thinkpad? B.1.10. How do I get rid of the password I set in BIOS? B.1.11. Can I format high density (2MB) floppies to 2.88mb? B.1.12. What's Thinkpad proven? B.2. Trackpoint B.2.1. What's the Trackpoint I, II, and III? B.2.2. How durable are the Trackpoints? B.2.3. How can I improve the grip of the Trackpoint II? B.2.4. What can I do about the Trackpoint II "drifting"? B.2.5. Can I increase the speed of the Trackpoint under OS/2? B.3. Power Management and Battery B.3.1. How are the power management and other BIOS features accessed? B.3.2. What type of battery does it use and what's the average battery life? B.3.3. Can I shut off the screen's lighting to prolong battery life? B.3.4. Is it possible to completely turn off the screen of the TP750 to save battery power but still use the unit? B.3.5. Is it possible to "hot-swap" my batteries? B.3.6. How do I suspend? B.3.7. What is hibernation? How do I hibernate? Does it work? B.3.8. Can I turn off that annoying/embarasing beeping noise when my TP750 goes into hibernation? B.3.9. How can I read the battery capacity from a program? B.3.10. Do the Thinkpads all use the same batteries? B.4. Video and Screen B.4.1. What's the Active Black matrix? B.4.2. Is it normal for the TFT screen to look faded out when viewed from an angle? B.4.3. I don't like how the screen dims when it's unplugged. B.4.4. What video chips do the Thinkpads use? B.4.5. What are the various screen size? B.4.6. Is the monochrome screen upgradeable? B.4.7. When I turn on my Thinkpad, I get a flickering effect for a while and then it goes away. What's wrong? B.4.8. How can I prevent my screen from looking "squished" when I'm running in graphics mode? B.5. PCMCIA (see PCMCIA file) B.5.1. What PCMCIA modems have been used successfully? B.5.2. What PCMCIA network cards have been used successfully? B.5.3. What other PCMCIA cards have been used successfully? B.5.4. My PCMCIA light stays on all the time. B.5.5. How do I get my PCMCIA devices to work? B.5.6. Can I use my flashcard from my Palmtop or Newon? B.6. Pentop (TP750P only) B.7. MWave card B.7.1. What is the MWave card? B.7.2. Where do I get the updates? C. Audio and Multimedia C.1. General Questions C.1.1. What audio chips do the Thinkpads use? C.1.2. How is the multimedia component? C.1.3. What are the exact measurements for the audio line-in and line-out? C.1.4. Is the built-in speaker used for all sounds? C.2. Crystal Semiconductors C.2.1. What is the crystal semiconductor audio chip? C.2.2. What machines use the crystal semiconductors audio chip? C.2.3. What drivers are available for the crystal semiconductor audio chip? C.2.4. Is there a text-to-speech utility? C.2.5. How do I get my games working with the sound? C.3. MWave Card (Audio only) C.3.1. What is the MWave card's audio component like? C.3.2. What machines use the MWave card? C.3.3. What drivers are out for the MWave card? C.3.4. How do I get my games working with the sound? C.4. CD-ROM C.4.1. How can I get a CD-ROM connected to my Thinkpad? D. Expansion D.1. Ports and Docks D.1.1. What external connections does it have? D.1.2. Does it have a dock or port replicator? D.1.3. How do I use the EPP port? D.1.4. A device which is connected to my serial port doesn't work. D.1.5. What type of SCSI connector does the dock II have? D.1.6. How can I get a SCSI connection to my TP? D.2. Memory D.2.1. What's the maximum RAM? D.2.2. What's the difference between DRAM and DIMM chips? D.3. Hard Drive and Floppy Drive D.3.1. What hard drive sizes are available? D.3.2. Is the removable hard drive a standard 2.5" hard drive? D.3.3. Can I get a third party hard drive? D.3.4. What are the specs for the floppy dirve? D.3.5. What do I do with my old hard drive after I've upgraded? E. Operating Systems E.1. DOS E.1.1. Can I move the IBMVESA directory? E.1.2. How do I get more memory with the PCMCIA drivers loaded? E.1.3. Why do I keep getting serial transfer errors? E.1.4. Why do I keep having problems with QEMM and my TP750 machine? E.1.5. Why is WordPerfect for DOS is crashing my machine? E.1.6. What DOS games work with the Crystal Semiconductor audio chip? E.1.7. What DOS games definately do NOT work with the Crystal Semiconductor audio chip? E.1.8. How do I get my game to work with the Crystal Semicondutor audio chip? E.2. Windows E.2.1. How can I stop getting "out of memory" errors? E.2.2. When I exit Windows, my system crashes suddenly. E.2.3. How can I comment out audio in my system.ini? E.2.4. Can I use the 32-bit disk access and 32-bit file access? E.3. Windows NT E.3.1. Does it run? E.3.2. What limitations are there to running NT? E.4. OS/2 E.4.1. Does Warp work with the Thinkpads? E.4.2. Why are my seamless windows messed up? E.4.3. How do I change resolutions on my external display? E.4.4. Can I use my PCMCIA device under OS/2? E.4.5. Why doesn't suspend work? E.4.6. Why do MIDI files keep crashing my system? E.4.7. How do I get a MIDI file and system sounds to work together? E.4.8. How can I make the pointer more visible? E.4.9. Does the TP750 support the IBM ScreenReader 2 program to provide speech access to OS/2 for blind users? E.4.10. Why does my machine crash when I come out of suspend? E.4.11. How do I increase the speed of cursor tracking? E.4.12. How can I use my whole screen in an OS/2 full screen box without vertical expansion? E.4.13. How do I hibernate under OS/2? E.5. Linux E.6. Other E.6.1. Does NetBSD work? (How to make NetBSD hobble along) E.6.2. Does SCO Xenix work? E.6.3. Any other OS's? F. Known Problems G. Where To Go For: G.1. Drivers G.1.1. What are the latest drivers? G.1.2. Where can I get them? G.2. Release notes G.2.1. Where can I get the latest IBM release notes? G.3. Technical help G.3.1. What's a good source of tech info for the TP750's? G.3.2. What documentation is there on the TP750? G.3.3. Is there any on-line documentation? G.3.4. How do I know what is Thinkpad proven? ====================================================================== THE FAQ PROPER ====================================================================== A. FAQ INFO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A.1. What does does this FAQ cover? This FAQ covers the Thinkpads dating from the introduction of the Thinkpad 750 series. To the writing of this FAQ, this includes the TP750, TP750Cs, TP750C, TP750CE, TP750P, TP360, TP360Cs, TP360C, TP755, TP755Cs, TP755C, TP755CE, TP755CsE, and TP755CD. A.2. Where can I get this FAQ? It can be ftp'ed from the "official TP Mail List ftp site" provided generously by Chris Hanson at: ftp-swiss.ai.mit.edu in the directory /pub/thinkpad/faq A.3. Who maintains this FAQ? Sean Chou. Email me at schou@uiuc.edu with any corrections or comments. A.4. When was it last updated? ====================================================================== B.1. HARDWARE: Machine Specs and General ---------------------------------------------------------------------- B.1.1. What are the various Thinkpads? Model CPU Screen Notes ------- --------- ------------------ ---------------------- TP750 SL/33 9.5" mono TP750Cs SL/33 9.5" dual scan TP750C SL/33 10.4" active TP750CE DX2/50 10.4" active Limited circulation TP750P SL/33 9.5" mono Pen-top model TP360 SX/33 9.5" mono TP360Cs SX/33 9.5" dual scan TP360C SX/33 9.5" active TP360CsE DX2/50 9.5" dual scan Mwave TP360CE DX2/50 9.5" active Mwave TP755 DX2/50 DX4 9.5" mono TP755Cs DX2/50 DX4 9.5" dual scan TP755C DX2/50 DX4 10.4" active TP755CsE DX4 9.5" dual scan Mwave TP755CE DX4 10.4" black active Mwave TP755CD DX4 10.4" black active Mwave; internal CD-ROM B.1.2. What CPUs do Thinkpads use? See B.1.1. The 486SL/33 chip is a 3.3 volt CPU that DOES include a floating point unit (coprocessor). The DX4 machines are upgradeable to DX4/100. B.1.3. What are the dimensions and how much do they weigh? B.1.4. Is the floppy/hard drive/battery removable? Yes, and furthermore, the floppy can be replaced by a number of other modules. IBM has a cellular modem and TV adapter available. They have also made the specs available in hopes that third party developers will make new modules although I know of none to date. B.1.5. How easy is it to take out the floppy, hard drive, and battery? This is one of the "neatest" features of the TP750 series. The keyboard flips up like a car hood and everything is accesible. I've even tried it with the machine on with no ill-effects (although the machine does auto-suspend). You can change batteries without shutting down simply by lifting the keyboard and switching batteries (a built- in NiCad battery will keep it powered while changing batteries). B.1.6. Is there a reset button? Yes, it's between the video port and dock port in the back of the machine. Get a paper clip and push the button in the hole. Tim Noonan reported an interesting piece of information to me. I would appreciate any confirmations for or against this: "I can't easily confirm this, but it seems like that if your config.sys or autoexec is totally stuffed that the resent buton can temporarily load from ROM resident versions of these files. I wondered why my machine was booting into windows after using the reset button while my autoexec.bat file had windows remmed out." B.1.7. Can I shut off the hard drive while leaving the screen on? Why would I want to do that? Well, because you can save a TON of battery life by not using the hard drive. Also, you can enjoy deathly silence. There's multiple ways to concievably do this. One is to set the timer so that the hard drive spins down after a short amount of time (while your screen stays on). John Kim has suggested using RAM drive when using small programs (or if you have a lot of RAM). On a similar note, you can always use a PCMCIA Flash RAM in place of the hard-drive. Joe Bormel stumbled upon a nice trick. There is a shareware program called COLAP (short for color laptop utility) that runs in DOS or a dos box in windows on dos. It has an option for toshiba machines, /T, that enables you, even on the tp750, to press RIGHT-SHIFT with DEL keys to turn off the hard disk. In addition, it can dim or brighten the VGA screen by altering vga color pallate. Joe has reported that this works under OS/2 as well in a DOS box. And, Tim Noonan points out that using a cache helps to reduce hard drive access significantly. B.1.8. Why are the keyboard letters and symbols are starting to come off. This is a problem some of the Thinkpad 750 series had. The keyboard paint was apparently sensitive to certain elements and would eventually get rubbed off. If you possess one of these keyboards, contact IBM for a new keyboard. B.1.9. How can I secure my Thinkpad? There are power-on and management passwords, as well as a hard drive password, which are effective in keeping people out of your info. There is a security loop that is located on the hard drive which can be used to secure the computer to a table or some other location. Also, Randy Whittle has suggested a motion detector which was designed for the Thinkpads that will sound off a loud alarm if armed. It can be set to various time delays, alarm times, etc. You can reach the makers at: SonicPro International, Inc. 5201 Great America Parkway Santa Clara, CA 95054 (408) 982-2568 Finally, and perhaps ultimately, Martin Smith (and many others, including myself) whole-heartedly recommend SafeWare. For $250 per year, they will insure you up to $10,000 for your computer, peripherals, and software. Insuring computers is all they do. Their number is 1-800-848-3469. or 1-614-262-0559. Also, if you think that your home insurance covers you, better call them up and make sure since many companies do NOT cover computers (especially if used for business purposes). B.1.10. How do I get rid of the password I set in BIOS? Type in your password with a space after it. B.1.11. Can I format high density (2MB) floppies to 2.88mb? Yes, but it's at your own risk. I've done it and a number of others have done it with no problems. However, there have also been reports of data loss with bad sectors forming after a period of extended use. B.1.12. What's Thinkpad proven? It's an IBM-implemented program to test items for their compatibility with Thinkpad machines. You can get the list from ====================================================================== B.2. HARDWARE: Trackpoint ---------------------------------------------------------------------- B.2.1. What's the Trackpoint I, II, and III? B.2.2. How durable are the Trackpoints? I use my machine for about four-five hours a day on the average in OS/2 which is very mouse intensive. I've had no problems with it in the long time I've had it. I did, however, recently replace the rubber cap with a new one (the old one was just getting too mushy). However, Bruce Reed has reported that one of his friends managed to break his Trackpoint II after playing X-Wing intensively and agressively for 3 weeks. The device did not physically break, but it just stopped functioning. Needless to say, don't do anything silly like that. Get a joystick or external mouse. Yet again, OTOH, Stanley Wasserman had a Thinkpad 720 which he owned for about a year. He let his two kids play with it and it never gave out. The Trackpoint II does however drift slightly on occasion. This is normal and due to the way the TPII handles movement (or maybe recalibrate?). B.2.3. How can I improve the grip of the Trackpoint II? IBM has said that the "cat's tongue" tip for the Trackpoint III will also work with the Trackpoint II. This tip has a rougher feel so that you get improved traction. A number of people on the mailing list have said that they the stuff that people use to make their fingers sticky so that they can turn pages faster (or count money). If your tip is very old, it will also get mushier and lose it's form. Try using a new tip. B.2.4. What can I do about the Trackpoint II "drifting"? There is nothing wrong with your Trackpoint. This is normal and appears to be the way the Thinkpad recalibrates the Trackpoints. B.2.5. Can I increase the speed of the Trackpoint under OS/2? 1) Get a copy of Rodent v1.00 or higher. 2) Modify your config.sys to look something like the following, DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\POINTDD.SYS DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\RODENT.SYS RESPONSE=2 DPI=640 MOUSE=PS RATE=20 DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS TYPE=RODENT$ REM DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS 3) Tune the rate, dpi and response switches to suit your tastes. 4) Send money to the author of Rodent. 5) Send Scott Stratmoen thanks for finding the solution. He also adds that you may want to tune the tracking speed in windows via the normal Windows method. However, note that there has been mention that this might cause problems with your APM under Warp. Let me know if anyone figures this out. ====================================================================== HARDWARE: Power Management and Battery ---------------------------------------------------------------------- B.3.1. How are the power management and other BIOS features accessed? "Some, like power-up passwords are only available through the EasySetup mode accessed by pressing F1 during a power-up. This is a GUI system with a range of hardware configuration options. "Most power management features can be accessed at DOS in Windows and under OS/2. In addition to menu access under dos using the PS2 program, full command line access for all settings is available. PS2 -? and one of the appendixes in the Reference manual document most of these commands." -Tim Noonan B.3.2. What type of battery does it use and what's the average battery life? The Thinkpads use a Nickel Metal-Hydride (NiMH) smart battery. These batteries adjust their expected "time left" based on past usage history. I'm not sure if the Thinkpads use the same batteries though. Please see the roadwarrior FAQ for questions regarding battery memory effect, longevity, and other general notebook battery questions. The average battery life differs depending on your use. However, average battery lives are reported below for various models: TP750 TP750C B.3.3. Can I shut off the screen's lighting to prolong battery life? Nope. That would require a transflective panel which none of the Thinkpads feature. (Apparently, a transflective panel would be much less bright than a normal LCD of comparable power consumption since the reflecting part would absorb the backlight.) - Ken Inoue B.3.4. Is it possible to completely turn off the screen of the TP750 to save battery power but still use the unit? Through the ps2 set-up program it is possible to disable the LCD screen if an external VGA monitor is connected. If you don't want to have an external screen connected, however, for example if you are using your ThinkPad with a speech synthesiser, then type "PS2 cover off" at the DOS prompt. This disables the resume function of the switch to the right rear of the unit that is depressed by the screen when its closed. This setting stops the unit from suspending but still disables the screen for improved battery life. It is best to use a small strip of cardboard in the slot where this small switch is situated to disable the screen. You may wish to use the "ps2 sound off" command to stop the various beeps that are generated by depression of the cover switch. If you don't do this you will hear a beep each time the unit realises the cover switch is depressed. -Tim Noonan B.3.5. Is it possible to "hot-swap" my batteries? Yes, if you are having problems, then you are probably pulling out your battery too fast. After lifting the keyboard, wait for a few seconds (the screen blanking does NOT mean the Thinkpad has gone into suspend yet) before swapping batteries. -Randy Whittle Also note that if the ps2 cover switch setting is set to off that lifting the keyboard will not suspend the machine (this also allows you to shut or disable the screen without shutting the computer off). -Tim Noonan B.3.6. How do I suspend? You can use software, the FN+F4 button, or push the little button on the right edge of the machine just above the area between the PCMCIA slots and PS/2 connector. B.3.7. What is hibernation? How do I hibernate? Does it work? Hibernation is an ultra power-conserving state. First, a hibernation file is built that is equal to the size of your RAM plus one meg. When you want to hibernate, hit Fn+F12. All the info in RAM is saved onto disk and the machine shuts off. Next time you start up, it starts where you left off. In theory, it's a great idea; however, execution has proven to be more thorny. Hibernation has been one of the buggier areas in all Thinkpad models on all operating systems. B.3.8. Can I turn off that annoying/embarasing beeping noise when my TP750 goes into hibernation? Yes, go to the Sound applet under OS/2 or Windows and click on the 'Power Control Beep' under the Alarms section. Under DOS, use th PS2.EXE program and go to sound options and click on the 'Power Control Beep' option or type 'PS2 beep off'. B.3.9. How can I read the battery capacity from a program? "One way to do this in DOS is to use APM BIOS. The APM specification version 1.1 (by Intel et al.) is on CompuServe PLUGPLAY forum; the 750 supports version 1.0 but if I remember correctly the battery status interface should be the same between 1.0 and 1.1. Please be careful about some of the APM BIOS calls that control system power state, as improper use of these calls can result in system crash (the APM BIOS calls were not meant to be used by two power managers). I am afraid that currently there is no easy way to do this in OS/2 without interfering with the operation of the standard power manager." -Ken Inoue B.3.10. Do the Thinkpads all use the same batteries? Good question. Someone? ====================================================================== HARDWARE: Video and Screen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- B.4.1. What's the Active Black matrix? What's the official description of this? B.4.2. Is it normal for the TFT screen to look faded out when viewed from an angle? Yes, especially when viewed from above or below the optimal level. It's not nearly as bad to view the screen from the sides as it is to view it from above or below. B.4.3. I don't like how the screen dims when it's unplugged. There's an undocumented switch for the PS2.EXE program to control brightness levels. It's 'PS2 BR N' for normal (plugged) brightness and 'PS2 BR E' for the economic brightness. Various users have reported a battery life loss of anywhere from 15-20 minutes less to 30 minutes less. This switch was first reported to me by Andrew Houghton. B.4.4. What video chips do the Thinkpads use? Thinkpads, like most notebooks, use the Western Digital 90C24 chipset, aka "Rocket", not to be confused with the Western Digital 90C31, which is their top-line chipset and also nicknamed "Rocket". They are both accelerated and supposed to be compatible with the Paradise chipset (which wouldn't take advantage of the acceleration hardware). The 90C24 is an 8-bit card and cannot display 16-bit or 24-bit colors. -John Kim They all support 640x480x256 onscreen and 800x600x16, 800x600x256, 1024x768x16, and 1024x768x256 on an external monitor. There is also a VESA TSR for DOS. The sych rate is adjustable between 56, 60, 72 Hz for any of the above modes. B.4.5. What are the various screen size? See B.1.1. B.4.6. Is the monochrome screen upgradeable? Yes, you can upgrade the TP750 to the pen or color screens when, or if, the upgrade becomes available. However, the upgrade seems to be much more expensive than the difference in price at last check. B.4.7. When I turn on my Thinkpad, I get a flickering effect for a while and then it goes away. What's wrong? This appears to be a known problem with some older BIOS. Contact IBM for a new BIOS or download it from the NSC BBS. The latest BIOS is version 1.04. B.4.8. How can I prevent my screen from looking "squished" when I'm running in graphics mode? "This is normal. The LCD is 640x480. Normal 25 row text mode is 640x400 pixels in resolution, and most graphical games are at 320x200 and 640x350. A monitor will automatically resych this to make it fill the entire screen. An LCD can't do this so you end up with a blank space 40 pixels high (75 pixels for 640x350) on both the top and bottom ends of the screen. "To alleviate this effect check to make sure that vertical expansion is on. Use the PS2 program under DOS, the Thinkpad applet under Windows, and the Display applet under OS/2. If you don't like the font under vertical expansion, there are several DOS utilities available with better fonts. A demo copy of one of these (Ultravision?) shipped with your ThinkPad." -John Kim ====================================================================== HARDWARE: PCMCIA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- B.5.1. What PCMCIA modems have been used successfully? This is by no means a comprehensive list, but rather a list of the most popular trouble-free cards used by members of the mailing list. AT&T Keep-In-Touch Megahertz XJ1114 Megahertz XJ2114 B.5.2. What PCMCIA network cards have been used successfully? B.5.3. What other PCMCIA cards have been used successfully? B.5.4. My PCMCIA light stays on all the time. This is normal. The PCMCIA light indicates that there is a card in the socket and that card and socket services are loaded. Power is no more than 10mA so it's nothing to worry about. -Mike Anderson, IBM Rep on CompuServe Thinkpad forum B.5.5. How do I get my PCMCIA devices to work? This differs depending on the operating system that you use. Under DOS/Win and OS/2, install the Thinkpad Utilities disk. Under Linux, you will have to compile PCMCIA support into the kernel. B.5.6. Can I use my flashcard from my Palmtop or Newon? Yes. There should be no problem with this as long as you have PCMCIA support properly configured. Randal Whittle reports that he had to load the the PCMCIA Phoenix support that came with PC-DOS and its PCMATA.SYS to enable his flashcard, although I don't know if there is a problem using EasyPlay drivers. ====================================================================== HARDWARE: Pentop (TP750P only) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ====================================================================== HARDWARE: MWave card ---------------------------------------------------------------------- B.7.1. What is the MWave card? B.7.2. Where do I get the updates? ====================================================================== AUDIO AND MULTIMEDIA: General Questions ---------------------------------------------------------------------- C.1.1. What audio chips do the Thinkpads use? The TP750 series, TP360 and TP755 series (excluding the E series, i.e. TP360CE and TP755CE) all use a proprietary audio chip designed by Crystal Semiconductors. The TP755 and TP360 E series (TP755 and TP360 CE CsE) use the IBM MWave card for it's audio. I've also heard that at least one of the Thinkpads (perhaps those with MWave cards) are hardware register compatible with the Soundblaster chipset. C.1.2. How is the multimedia component? The Crystal Semiconductor audio subsystem is 16-bit and can sample at up to 48 kHz (that's CD quality). The following emulations are supported for game play (or other use): 1) General MIDI mode 2) Roland Mode 3) Adlib Mode 4) Sound Blaster Mode 5) PC Speaker Mode It sounds decent (subjectively speaking, of course) through the PC speakers. External speakers will get you better noise but at a price of more luggage. The MIDI reproduction is a bit tinny and SoundBlaster (as well as other sound cards) emulation works but may skip a bit and slows down the system. I don't know how the Mwave cards sound. C.1.3. What are the exact measurements for the audio line-in and line-out? Both audio jacks are stereo, 1/8 inch mini-jacks. The audio out jack will take headphones. Maximum headphone speaker output is 1.5 mW into 32 ohms. Max output level is 1.9 V peak-to-peak @ 75 Ohms. The input jack is software programmable; mic or line input. Sample rate is 5.5-48 kHz. Mic input: gain 32-54.5 dB; input level 4 mV p-p @ 9 kOhms Line input: input level 5.3 V p-p @ 8 kOhms Mic and line input can be toggled through software. C.1.4. Is the built-in speaker used for all sounds? Yes, unless you have speakers or headphones connected to the machine. All sounds, including DOS (OS/2, Windows, or what-not) beeps are directed through the built-in speakers. ====================================================================== AUDIO AND MULTIMEDA: Crystal Semiconductors ---------------------------------------------------------------------- C.2.1. What is the crystal semiconductor audio chip? "The CS4248 is a mixed signal integrated circuit that provides 16-bit audio for computer multimedia systems. The CS4248 includes stereo audio converters and complete on-chip filtering for record and playback of 16-bit audio data. The CS4248 combines conversion, analog mixing, and programmable gain and attenuation to provide a complete audio subsystem in a single 68-pin PLCC or 100-pin TQFP package. The CS4248 includes an 8-bit parallel interface to the industry standard ISA bus. "A complete register mapping is included in the data. There are also device drivers available for Windows 3.1 and NT, as well as diagnostic software. The Monologue software is also available in the Crystal data book (apparently it was a joint development by Crystal and First Source)." -Andrew Stevens The CS4248 audio codec from Crystal Semiconductor is functionally equivalent Analog Devices AD1848 rev. K chip. The phone number to Crystal Semiconductor (Austin, TX) is 512-445-7222. C.2.2. What machines use the crystal semiconductors audio chip? The TP750, TP750Cs, TP750C, TP750P, TP750Ce, TP360, TP360Cs, TP360C, TP755, TP755Cs, TP755C. C.2.3. What drivers are available for the crystal semiconductor audio chip? IBM has put out drivers for Windows 3.1 that support all standard Windows fare (WAV and MIDI). DOS drivers are also available as well as "game" drivers that basically allow for emulation of SoundBlaster, MIDI, Roland, and Adlib. OS/2 drivers are available that will support MMOS as well as "game" emulation in a DOS box. Win-OS2 sounds are supported by the OS/2 drivers. C.2.4. Is there a text-to-speech utility? There is a program called Monlogue. A DOS and Windows version exist and should come with the Audio disks. C.2.5. How do I get my games working with the sound? ====================================================================== AUDIO AND MULTIMEDIA: MWave Card (Audio only) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- C.3.1. What is the MWave card's audio component like? C.3.2. What machines use the MWave card? C.3.3. What drivers are out for the MWave card? C.3.4. How do I get my games working with the sound? ====================================================================== AUDIO AND MULTIMEDIA: CD-ROM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- C.4.1. How can I get a CD-ROM connected to my Thinkpad? This is really a matter of getting either a SCSI connection or gettng a CD-ROM that can go through the parallel port. To get a SCSI connection, see D.1.6. There are a number of parallel port CD-ROM drives. There is the Microsolutions backpack CD-ROM. However, they have no support for OS/2 and do not plan on supporting OS/2. A newer drive called the Gator provides a parallel port CD-ROM drive AND a SCSI adapter. ====================================================================== EXPANSION: Ports and Docks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- D.1.1. What external connections does it have? The Thinkpads all have two type II PCMCIA slots (or one type III), an unidirectonal/bidirectiona/enhanced parallel port, a serial port, a PS/2 port, a dock port, and an SVGA port. In addition, they have a line-in and line-out port for the audio. The TP750 series have a 16450 UART on the serial port. The newer models (TP360 and TP755) have 16550 UARTs. The TP755CE and TP755CD also have a video in port. D.1.2. Does it have a dock or port replicator? Yes, it has the Dock II which is mobile itself (weighing 6.2 lbs.). The Dock II has one 5.25" drive bay, one expansion slot, a SCSI connector, and high fidelity speakers built in. It also includes an external keyboard connector. Also, there are two port replicators. The first one is simply a port replicator (for the convenience of plugging lots of devices in). The second port replicator, in addition to replicating the ports, also includes two more Type II PCMCIA slots. There have been various problems reported on the mailing list about the Dock. The main problem has to do with the non-standard SCSI connection. D.1.3. How do I use the EPP port? To access the EPP port, set the LPT port to LPT2 in EasySetup (although LPT1 is still used by the software). D.1.4. A device which is connected to my serial port doesn't work. Be sure that the serial port is getting power. Check your power applet under OS/2 and Windows or, under DOS, type 'PS2 serial on', or use the menu options. You'd be surprised how many people do this! D.1.5. What type of SCSI connector does the dock II have? The SCSI adapter on the dock II is a non-standard connection. However, there is a cable available from IBM (part number 32G4143) which can provide the traditional Centronics connector. D.1.6. How can I get a SCSI connection to my TP? The Dock I comes with a SCSI port. However, several people on the mailing list have reported problems with using the SCSI port. IBM has a cable, part number 32G4143, which has the wierd 60 pin connector on one end and a more traditional 50 pin centronics style connector on the other. - Keith Moore (unconfirmed) There are two primary ways to get a SCSI connection besides the dock -- a parallel to SCSI cable or a PCMCIA SCSI card. Trantor, as well as some other companies, offer parallel port to SCSI cables. The Trantor cable comes in three model -- 4-bit, bidirectional, and EPP. Both the 4-bit and bidirectional cables have throughputs that may be too slow for any high-speed application (such as a quadruple speed CD-ROM drive or hard drive). See D.1.3. to see how to use the TP's EPP port with the Trantor EPP cable. Also note, Tim Noonan has reported that the Trantor drivers must be added to the _end_ of the CONFIG.SYS instead of the default installation to the _start_ of the CONFIG.SYS. Otherwise, the drivers will cause hangs during boot-up and the EPP will not be able to be properly accessed. Once properly connected, everything is reported to work well. Note that there are drivers for DOS/Win as well as OS/2. There are a number of PCMCIA SCSI cards that offer fast SCSI-2 support. The ones I know of are New Media, Future Domain, Adaptec, Future Domain, and IBM. If you are never going to use any OS beside DOS/Win, any of the cards will probably do. However, if you ever plan to try out or if you currently use OS/2, you are limited to the IBM card for now. Adaptec and Future Domain claim to be making OS/2 drivers, but so far I don't know much about them. New Media has said they don't plan on supporting OS/2 at all. ====================================================================== EXPANSION: Memory ---------------------------------------------------------------------- D.2.1. What's the maximum RAM? The maximum amount of RAM on the TP750 series machines is 40mb RAM. The original specifications listed 32mb, but that was because of the lack of a 36mb IC-DRAM card. D.2.2. What's the difference between DRAM and DIMM chips? ====================================================================== EXPANSION: Hard Drive and Floppy Drive ---------------------------------------------------------------------- D.3.1. What hard drive sizes are available? There is a 170mb, 340mb, 520mb, and 810mb hard drive available. D.3.2. Is the removable hard drive a standard 2.5" hard drive? D.3.3. Can I get a third party hard drive? Sigma Data is at least one of the OEM manufacturers of the hard drives shipping in the 355, 360, and 75x series. Therefore these drives have the exact same specifications as the original IBM drives. IBM fully supports these drives, including maintaining them under the terms of the ThinkPad warranty. Since they are the OEM manufacturer, the drives come in the same case, same connector, etc. The only difference is that there is a Sigma Data label on the case... Here are the part numbers: Capacity IBM Part Number Sigma Data Part Number 340M 66G2849 QED/TP750-340 540M 84G2150 QED/TP750-540 810M 84G8250 QED/TP750-810 Sigma Data 17 Newport Road New London, NH 800-446-4525 -Robert George The Thinkpad mail list has secured a discount deal with Sigma Data. Mention the Thinkpad mail list discount when you order from them. D.3.4. What are the specs for the floppy drive? The TP750x has a 2.88 floppy. The diskette drive controller is configured to be compatible with PS/2 Model 30, the first AT bus PS/2. -Ken Inoue The TP755 and TP360 have a 1.44 floppy. But I don't know what the controller is based on. D.3.5. What do I do with my old hard drive after I've upgraded? Forwarded by Eli B. Charne: --- From: echarne@liege.ics.uci.edu (Eli B. Charne) Subject: 2.5" Notebook drive adapter for desktop systems Date: 10 Feb 1995 12:58:20 -0800 Organization: UC Irvine, Department of ICS I have a few adapters that allow you connect 2.5" IDE Notebook drives to a standard IDE connecter. The adapters include a mounting bracket for the 2.5" drive that will slide into a standard 5.25" drive bay. This is great for being able to backup your notebook drive, or in case you've bought a larger notebook drive (like I did), you can still make use of the old drive. The price is $20 + 2.90 shipping. --- I don't know if any more are available or where he got them from. ====================================================================== OPERATING SYSTEM: DOS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- E.1.1. Can I move the IBMVESA directory? No. E.1.2. How do I get more memory with the PCMCIA drivers loaded? Use OS/2. (Gratuitous plug) Short of that, you should watch what you load. Don't load drivers for things you don't need. Also, experiment with the amount of RAM you exclude. Most of the times, people have gotten by with excluding C000 to C0FF. Also, be sure to use a high memory manager such as Ramboot (PC-DOS), Memmaker (MS-DOS), QEMM, Netroom, or 386Max. E.1.3. Why do I keep getting serial transfer errors? John Kim first reported that the fueldos.com TSR provided with earlier versions of the TP750 utilities disk caused excessive loss of characters as well as bad packets. This has been confirmed by many other sources. Don't load the TSR at all if you use Windows primarily. If you use DOS frequently, then use the fueldos.com from version 1.31 of the TP750 Utilities disk or a higher version. Randy Whittle has also reported that the Windows fuel program _can_ cause problems in certain cases. Specifically, he was using an external v.32bis from his serial port with Procomm Plus for Windows. E.1.4. Why do I keep having problems with QEMM and my TP750 machine? See the file called tp_qemm. E.1.5. Why is WordPerfect for DOS is crashing my machine? "I don't know if this will fix your problem, but the TP750 has a problem with all of the rapid cursor features in DOS wp5.1 and wp6.0. It will sometimes hang the machine. You can start WP with "WP/nc" to get the normal cursor speed. When you get into WP, got to setup and turn off fast cursor. The default is 50cps, change it to 'normal'." -Douglas Diamond E.1.6. What DOS games work with the Crystal Semiconductor audio chip? E.1.7. What DOS games definately do NOT work with the Crystal Semiconductor audio chip? E.1.8. How do I get my game to work with the Crystal Semiconductor audio chip? ====================================================================== OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows ---------------------------------------------------------------------- E.2.1. How can I stop getting "out of memory" errors? E.2.2. When I exit Windows, my system crashes suddenly. E.2.3. How can I comment out audio in my system.ini? E.2.4. Can I use the 32-bit disk access and 32-bit file access? Yes. The TP750 series is fully compatible with 32-bit disk access. The main problem occurs in portables that power down the hard drive while a write is in action. The TP750's (being fully APM compliant) won't power down as long as the hard drive is being used. 32-bit file access from Windows for Workgroups is entirely compatible also. -Randal Whittle (who quoted Herb Chong of RIME) ====================================================================== OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows NT ---------------------------------------------------------------------- E.3.1. Does it run? E.3.2. What limitations are there to running NT? E.3.3. How's OpenGL work on the Thinkpads? ===================================================================== OPERATING SYSTEM: OS/2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- E.4.1. Does Warp work with the Thinkpads? E.4.2. Why are my seamless windows messed up? E.4.3. How do I change resolutions on my external display? E.4.4. Can I use my PCMCIA device under OS/2? E.4.5. Why doesn't suspend work? E.4.6. Why do MIDI files keep crashing my system? E.4.7. How do I get a MIDI file and system sounds to work together? E.4.8. How can I make the pointer more visible? E.4.9. Does the TP750 support the IBM ScreenReader 2 program to provide speech access to OS/2 for blind users? E.4.10. Why does my machine crash when I come out of suspend? E.4.11. How do I increase the speed of cursor tracking? E.4.12. How can I use my whole screen in an OS/2 full screen box without vertical expansion? E.4.13. How do I hibernate under OS/2? ====================================================================== OPERATING SYSTEM: Linux ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ====================================================================== OPERATING SYSTEM: Other ---------------------------------------------------------------------- E.6.1. Does NetBSD work? (How to make NetBSD hobble along) E.6.2. Does SCO Xenix work? E.6.3. Any other OS's? ====================================================================== KNOWN PROBLEMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ====================================================================== MORE INFORMATION ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / Compuserve: 73672,2111 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 20:33:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18475; Wed, 8 Mar 95 20:33:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14965; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 20:20:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 20:20:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14949; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 20:20:14 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id UAA10467; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 20:22:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 20:22:43 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Sean Chou Cc: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: New Thinkpad FAQ pre-release In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 7 Mar 1995, Sean Chou wrote: > ====================================================================== > EXPANSION: Hard Drive and Floppy Drive > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > D.3.2. Is the removable hard drive a standard 2.5" hard drive? If you don't have anything for this yet, how about... Yes and no. The hard drive in the 750 series is in a plastic housing with a modular plug, allowing it to be exchanged with another drive, presumable so you could run multiple operating systems or the like. However, the case is simply an injection molded plastic housing with an adaptor to convert the standard 2.5" IDE drive 44 pins to the AMP D connector on the outside. Inside the case it is just a 2.5" IDE drive, though John Kim has speculated that the drive must be less than 17mm thick to fit inside the case. The case is held together by snaps on the side and two screws hidden under the //////// label indicating where to press when inserting the drive. And if you'd like a more detailed section on swapping the 2.5 drive in the case, I'd be delighted to elaborate on the process of opening the case. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "I timed it. It took 22 seconds for him to hate you." - Chicago Hope ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 21:12:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20627; Wed, 8 Mar 95 21:12:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10815; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 18:55:05 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 18:55:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10796; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 18:54:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199503082354.SAA10796@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12517; Wed, 8 Mar 95 18:54:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 95 18:54:51 -0500 From: Chris Hanson To: schou@uiuc.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: (ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) Subject: Re: New OS/2 driver bug? From: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 1995 23:45:32 -0500 Has anyone else had any difficulties with the new OS/2 WD video drivers? Specifically, when using 64k colors, do you get misplaced widgets with seamless Windows? Also, if you use PMView, do you get an inverse palette with thumbnail view? I haven't tried using 64k colors, so I can't say anything about your first symptom. However, I have had a variety of palette-related bugs ever since upgrading to Warp. These problems have persisted after I installed the new WD drivers last month. In addition to getting scrambled thumbnails in PMView, I've also had trouble with desktop colors acting strangely -- specifically, when I first brought up Warp, the background was not a solid color, but mixed. I then went into the background page of the settings notebook, and found that, according to the settings page, the desktop _was_ a solid color. Turning "solid color" off and then back on fixed the problem. I've also noticed similar trouble when turning on the "workplace shell palette aware" checkbox -- the desktop colors change to incorrect values, and some of them change from solid to mixed. But in this case, it's not possible to get them to work right. Thus, even though I would prefer to have the shell be palette-aware, I don't do it, because the desktop looks ugly when it is. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 21:38:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22760; Wed, 8 Mar 95 21:38:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13466; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 19:49:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 19:48:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13456; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 19:48:56 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id TAA08819; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 19:52:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 19:52:25 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Sean Chou Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New Thinkpad FAQ pre-release In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII B.2.3. How can I improve the grip of the Trackpoint II? I think the information some people got about ordering replacement caps should go here. (I'd like to see the 'price per troy oz of trackpoint caps' article too, but why push it?) ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "I timed it. It took 22 seconds for him to hate you." - Chicago Hope ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 22:26:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25160; Wed, 8 Mar 95 22:26:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21965; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 22:12:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 22:12:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21955; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 22:12:08 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA15992; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 21:12:05 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 22:12:44 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <79965.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New Thinkpad FAQ pre-release In message Wed, 8 Mar 1995 20:22:43 -0500 (EST), Don Whiteside writes: > connector on the outside. Inside the case it is just a 2.5" IDE drive, > though John Kim has speculated that the drive must be less than 17mm ^^^^^^^^ > thick to fit inside the case. The case is held together by snaps on the That's right, use my name as a disclaimer and sacrifice me to the lawyers why don't you. :-) ______________________________________________________________________ |\ _____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Um ... no." -- Outfielder Darryl Strawberry's | | | jokim@mit.edu hesitant reply when asked by a judge if he | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu had taken drugs in the past few days. | \|______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 22:41:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26680; Wed, 8 Mar 95 22:41:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22738; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 22:24:47 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 22:24:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from village.slip.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22728; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 22:24:43 -0500 Received: by village.slip.uiuc.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0167; Wed, 08 Mar 95 21:17:47 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: IBM DOS 7.0 Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 17:42:46 -0500 Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9503081721.AA24259@deathstar.stortek.com> Lines: 11 ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) wrote: > > Is there any reason why I should upgrade the IBM DOS v6.3 on my 755ce to > > v7.0? I salmost bought it the other day at CompUSA. > > I want it to get built-in Rexx! Your dreams are fulfilled. PC-DOS 7.0 DOES include REXX as well as an INF reader. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / Compuserve: 73672,2111 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 23:21:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28472; Wed, 8 Mar 95 23:21:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25689; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 23:05:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 23:05:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom20.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25659; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 23:05:14 -0500 From: Received: by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.10/Netcom) id UAA23978; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 20:04:33 -0800 Message-Id: <199503090404.UAA23978@netcom20.netcom.com> Subject: Re: No sound in Windoze (OS/2)??? To: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 20:04:31 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) In-Reply-To: from "Scott Stratmoen" at Mar 8, 95 01:05:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > I finally got OS/2 to recognize the Dock III and my Syquest.. > > Dock III? > > > -- > Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com > | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) > Err...hehehe...that was a typo...Dock II :) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 23:22:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28488; Wed, 8 Mar 95 23:22:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26203; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 23:11:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 23:11:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from village.slip.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26189; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 23:11:16 -0500 Received: by village.slip.uiuc.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0276; Wed, 08 Mar 95 22:04:22 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: IBM DOS 7.0 Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 17:42:46 -0500 Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9503081721.AA24259@deathstar.stortek.com> Lines: 11 ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) wrote: > > Is there any reason why I should upgrade the IBM DOS v6.3 on my 755ce to > > v7.0? I salmost bought it the other day at CompUSA. > > I want it to get built-in Rexx! Your dreams are fulfilled. PC-DOS 7.0 DOES include REXX as well as an INF reader. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / Compuserve: 73672,2111 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 23:27:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28735; Wed, 8 Mar 95 23:27:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26182; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 23:11:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 23:11:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from village.slip.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26172; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 23:11:06 -0500 Received: by village.slip.uiuc.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0272; Wed, 08 Mar 95 22:04:12 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: No sound in Windoze (OS/2)??? Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 17:41:10 -0500 Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Message-Id: <6AZNlWwf5BVH078yn@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> In-Reply-To: <199503081630.IAA28723@netcom23.netcom.com> Lines: 9 dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) wrote: > help! no sound in win-os2! Are you using Warp? I've heard of (and experienced) drop out of sound AFTER using a Windows session. There's a patch available from the usual places (Walnut Creek, Hobbes, etc.). --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / Compuserve: 73672,2111 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 23:27:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28740; Wed, 8 Mar 95 23:27:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17591; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 21:08:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 21:08:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17577; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 21:08:37 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA15110; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 20:08:34 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 21:09:11 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <76152.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Looking for a good DRAM vendor... In message Wed, 8 Mar 1995 15:09:07 -0500, stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) writes: >> Because of the quake in Kobe, Japan, memory prices are rising, so the >> prices quoted there are lower than what you will probably get. I >> bargained down to $45 over the advertised price. > > That is total B.S.!! It has nothing to do with the earthquake, the ad > price is ALWAYS lower than what they actually say on the phone. Well, when I got my 8MB upgrade a year ago from First Source, the ad price was *higher* than what they told me on the phone. As for increasing prices due to the earthquake, yes it's sick but that's the way commodities markets work. Less perceived supply == higher prices no matter when the item was made. Those of you who got an active matrix early on should know that. One of the nice things about this mailing list is you can say you know someone who just bought XXX from them at $YYY. You don't have to tell them it was before the earthquake. :-) ______________________________________________________________________ |\ _____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Um ... no." -- Outfielder Darryl Strawberry's | | | jokim@mit.edu hesitant reply when asked by a judge if he | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu had taken drugs in the past few days. | \|______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 23:37:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29439; Wed, 8 Mar 95 23:37:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18965; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 21:29:13 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 21:29:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hincks.physics.carleton.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18955; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 21:29:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 21:28:42 -0500 (EST) From: "STEVE GODFREY, (613) 788-4386" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: GODFREY@physics.carleton.ca Message-Id: <950308212842.22c16b1e@physics.carleton.ca> Subject: zip drives and other backup optons Has anybody actually received a zip-drive yet? If so what are they like to use; would you recommend them? Does anybody have other suggestions for backup devices like the zip-drive or magneto-optico drives? Thanks Steve G. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 8 23:58:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00264; Wed, 8 Mar 95 23:58:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28791; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 23:47:36 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 23:47:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from village.slip.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28779; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 23:47:29 -0500 Received: by village.slip.uiuc.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0357; Wed, 08 Mar 95 22:40:35 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: IBM DOS 7.0 Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 17:42:46 -0500 Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9503081721.AA24259@deathstar.stortek.com> Lines: 11 ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) wrote: > > Is there any reason why I should upgrade the IBM DOS v6.3 on my 755ce to > > v7.0? I salmost bought it the other day at CompUSA. > > I want it to get built-in Rexx! Your dreams are fulfilled. PC-DOS 7.0 DOES include REXX as well as an INF reader. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / Compuserve: 73672,2111 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 9 00:02:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00411; Thu, 9 Mar 95 00:02:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28777; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 23:47:25 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 23:47:23 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from village.slip.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28766; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 23:47:19 -0500 Received: by village.slip.uiuc.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0355; Wed, 08 Mar 95 22:40:21 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: No sound in Windoze (OS/2)??? Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 17:41:10 -0500 Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Message-Id: <6AZNlWwf5BVH078yn@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> In-Reply-To: <199503081630.IAA28723@netcom23.netcom.com> Lines: 9 dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) wrote: > help! no sound in win-os2! Are you using Warp? I've heard of (and experienced) drop out of sound AFTER using a Windows session. There's a patch available from the usual places (Walnut Creek, Hobbes, etc.). --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / Compuserve: 73672,2111 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 9 00:42:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04286; Thu, 9 Mar 95 00:42:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22726; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 22:24:36 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 22:24:34 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from village.slip.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22716; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 22:24:30 -0500 Received: by village.slip.uiuc.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0165; Wed, 08 Mar 95 21:17:30 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: No sound in Windoze (OS/2)??? Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 17:41:10 -0500 Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Message-Id: <6AZNlWwf5BVH078yn@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> In-Reply-To: <199503081630.IAA28723@netcom23.netcom.com> Lines: 9 dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) wrote: > help! no sound in win-os2! Are you using Warp? I've heard of (and experienced) drop out of sound AFTER using a Windows session. There's a patch available from the usual places (Walnut Creek, Hobbes, etc.). --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / Compuserve: 73672,2111 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 9 01:33:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07938; Thu, 9 Mar 95 01:33:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03993; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 01:12:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 01:12:04 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03983; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 01:12:00 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA23804 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Thu, 9 Mar 1995 01:11:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 01:11:33 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: What we've all been waiting for Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The Pentium upgrade is only for the 755CE/CSE/CD and costs $1149. Surprisingly the 701 uses a "Super Nicad" instead of NiMH. Also you now have the option of getting OS2 WARP pre-installed. A lot of caveats with this model and alot of options won't be available for a few months. Also this model appears to use only DIMM memory chips, not the DRAM card. Thats the end of my comments. Josh H. ------------------------------------ IBM ThinkPad 701C and 701CS, Related Features, and ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade Option Announced on March 7, 1995 Hardware Announcement 195063 +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | IN BRIEF . . . | | | | o Full-size, 85-key TrackWrite keyboard with TrackPoint III | | o Choice of color displays with a maximum viewable area of | | 10.4-inches, measured diagonally: | | - Active Matrix (TFT) | | - Dual Scan (DSTN) | | o Choice of removable hard disk drive (HDD), 360MB or 540MB | | o Light weight (4.5 pounds) | | o Local bus video | | o Connector for attachment of standard MultiPort II | | o Rechargeable Super NiCd battery | | o Power management with Standby, Suspend, Hibernation, and | | RediSafe modes | | o 8KB, four-way associative on-chip cache on DX2 processor | | o 16KB, four-way associative on-chip cache on DX4 processor | | o 3.5-inch external hot-pluggable diskette drive | | o Type III PCMCIA slot (or two Type II PCMCIA) | | o Enhanced parallel port | | o Built-in hardware that supports most games and applications | | for Soundblaster-Pro** | | o Audio capability with built-in speaker and microphone, audio | | in/out jacks for stereo, and external microphone connector | | o Built-in 14.4KB data/fax modem with voice and telephony | | functions, such as answering machine and speaker phone | | o Docking capability with ThinkPad Dock II, using the 701 | | Dock II Adapter Kit | | o Infrared (IR) capability -- IRDA hardware compatible, HP** | | 115.2 KBits/sec mode | | o Preinstalled software | | o Pentium Upgrade optional features for the ThinkPad 755CE, | | CSE, and CD | | o HelpWare(R) support | | o HelpCenter(R) (800-772-2227) | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ The ThinkPad(R) 701C and 701CS have a new, unique, full-size notebook keyboard and display in a compact, 4.5-pound package that doesn't sacrifice an ounce of power or versatility. The ThinkPad 701C and 701CS systems give you everything you need to meet your business computing needs when you travel -- anytime, anywhere. The innovative design of the expandable keyboard enables the full-size, 85-key TrackWrite keyboard to fit in the 7.9- by 9.7- by 1.7-inch package. The keyboard is cut in half diagonally, so when you raise the display, the two keyboard halves spread apart, leaving an overhang of almost an inch on either side of the chassis. In addition to the TrackWrite keyboard with TrackPoint III, you also have a choice of color displays -- Active Matrix or Dual Scan. Both displays have a maximum viewable area of 10.4 inches, measured diagonally. With the high performance of the ThinkPad 701C and 701CS systems, you have more than enough speed and resource to take complex applications on the road. The systems are available with either an Intel** 486 DX2 microprocessor (50/25MHz) and standard 4MB of memory (expandable to 20MB), or an Intel 486 DX4 microprocessor (75/25MHz) and standard 8MB of memory (expandable to 24MB). Both systems include DOS, Windows+, and a suite of mobile software applications preinstalled on the hard disk. In addition, OS/2(R) Warp Version 3.0 (including BonusPak applications) is available on DX4-based systems as a preinstalled operating system with dual boot. Many new options are available for the ThinkPad 701C and 701CS, such as the ThinkPad 701 Dock II Adapter Kit(1), the ThinkPad 701 NiMh Battery Pack, an AC adapter, and an external floppy diskette drive. ThinkPad Pentium** Upgrade optional features for the ThinkPad 755CE, CSE, and CD are also available. The features allow current users of these systems to upgrade the processor from the IntelDX4** 100MHz to the Intel Pentium processor for increased performance. Single Unit Price Range: $3,799 to $5,649 (ThinkPad 701C and 701CS) Description Planned Availability ThinkPad 701C with DX2/TFT and 701CS with DX2/DSTN March 7, 1995 ThinkPad 701C with DX4/TFT and 701CS with DX4/DSTN March 31, 1995 ThinkPad 701 Dock II Adapter Kit Second quarter 1995 ThinkPad 701 NiMh Battery Pack May 31, 1995 All other options for the ThinkPad 701C and 701CS March 7, 1995 ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade Kit for 755CS/CSE and 755CD April 26, 1995 (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation ** Company, product, or service name may be a trademark or service mark of others. + Trademark of Microsoft Corporation (1) The ThinkPad 701 Dock II Adapter Kit is not approved by the Federal Communication Commission (FCC). The ThinkPad 701 Dock II Adapter Kit is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased until the approval of the FCC is obtained. DESCRIPTION ThinkPad 701C and 701CS Models Hard Machine Disk Display/ Description Model Capacity Processor ThinkPad 701C 2630-UT2 360MB TFT/DX2 ThinkPad 701C 2630-UT5 540MB TFT/DX2 ThinkPad 701CS 2630-US2 360MB DSTN/DX2 ThinkPad 701CS 2630-US5 540MB DSTN/DX2 ThinkPad 701C 2630-2TU 360MB TFT/DX4 ThinkPad 701C 2630-5TU 540MB TFT/DX4 ThinkPad 701CS 2630-2SU 360MB DSTN/DX4 ThinkPad 701CS 2630-5SU 540MB DSTN/DX4 HelpWare: HelpWare is a comprehensive set of offerings designed to provide a full range of service and support options to help make computing a more productive and enjoyable experience. As part of our commitment to providing the support you demand, many HelpWare services are complimentary during the warranty period of your IBM Personal Computer. Additional services are also available from the HelpWare Support Family. For detailed information on HelpWare services, refer to Services Announcement 694-029, dated October 17, 1994, or call the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. New Options for ThinkPad 701C and 701CS Feature Part Description Number Number ThinkPad 701 Dock II Adapter Kit 4225 04H6196 ThinkPad 701 540MB HDD File 4226 04H6894 ThinkPad 701 720MB HDD File 4227 10H4096 ThinkPad 701 AC Adapter 4230 10H4020 ThinkPad AC Adapter 35W 8070 85G6680 ThinkPad 701 Super NiCd Battery Pack 4229 10H4019 ThinkPad 701 MultiPort II Port Enabler 4234 10H4021 ThinkPad 701 External FDD and Cable 4235 10H4068 ThinkPad 701 EPP Printer Cable and FDD Cable Pack 4241 10H4069 ThinkPad 701 NiMh Battery Pack 4413 25H4862 Software Preinstalled on the Hard Disk The following software programs are licensed to you under the non-IBM manufacturer's, supplier's, or publisher's terms and conditions. The non-IBM manufacturers, suppliers, or publishers are responsible for providing any service or support associated with these programs. The descriptions of these programs were obtained from information made available by these companies to the general public. IBM does not warrant these products. o Operating environment - All Systems: PC DOS 6.3 and Microsoft** Windows 3.11 - DX4-based 8MB systems also include: -- OS/2 Warp Version 3.0 (dual boot) -- Warp with BonusPak applications -- Diskette Factory** for Warp o Application software - IBM PC Card Director for PCMCIA - Lotus** cc:Mail**, e-mail for the Global** Network - Lotus Organizer** V1.12 - Lotus ScreenCam** V1.0 - Triton** CoSession** Host - Prodigy** - America Online (AOL**) - SofNet** FaxWorks** Voice - COMPEL PE** - TalkWorks LE** - Alphanet Followfax** - Puma TranXit** - REPRINT** by Sedona** - Taxi** - Reuters Money** Network - Monologue** - Product demonstration - VFW** Runtime - Diskette Factory DOS/WIN - Diskette Factory Utilities - Online publication Description of Preinstalled Software o Lotus cc:Mail, e-mail for the Global Network -- allows you to connect across compatible and incompatible networks regardless of the value-added network or architecture involved. o Lotus Organizer V1.12 -- provides calendar, to-do list, planner, address book, notepad, and anniversary reminder for time management. The program contains Personal Information Manager functions, not workgroup scheduling. o Lotus ScreenCam V1.0 -- makes a movie picture of what you do on your display. You can annotate with sound and create a file to send and share with others. o Triton CoSessions Host -- allows an IBM technician to dial into your PC and fix problems online. o Prodigy -- provides continuous news and information, connects friends and family across the country, offers interactive learning experiences for your children and more. o America Online -- keeps you informed while you are on the road. You can access news stories, articles from leading magazines, and much more. o SofNet FaxWorks Voice -- allows your system to act similar to a personal answering machine. You can send, receive, view, print, and edit a fax right from your PC. o COMPEL PE -- helps you create stunning onscreen presentations in minutes. o TalkWorks LE -- combines easy-to-use applications with variable speed playback, advanced editing, special effects, and compression up to 10:1, using voice messaging software. o FollowFax for Windows -- allows you to have a personal FollowFax number that enables a fax to reach you in privacy. o TranXit -- makes it easy to connect the ThinkPad to your desktop computer, provided it has IR capability. The built-in IR allows the transfer of data and synchronizes files with or without cables. o REPRINT by SEDONA -- enables telephone transmission of full-color documents to most remote printers equipped with REPRINT, in seconds o Taxi -- provides intelligent mapping for finding addresses and planning routes in key cities in the United States. o Reuters Money Network -- combines investment software with an array of online financial information, news, and data. o Monologue -- enables DOS and Windows applications for speech. Intel Pentium Processor with L2 Cache Upgrade Option This option requires installation by an IBM-trained servicer. The upgrade option can be installed on ThinkPad 755CE, CSE, and CD. The ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade option contains the following items: o Installation instructions o User's reference and warranty pages o System program service diskette o Utility Diskette Version 1.10 o Pentium processor card assembly o Miscellaneous components PRODUCT POSITIONING The ThinkPad 701C and 701CS are positioned as an industry leading, highly innovative, high-performance, advanced-function color notebook in a small, light-weight system. These systems are technological leaders in IBM's family of mobile, portable systems, providing many new award-winning features. The ThinkPad 701C and 701CS provide an extension to the IBM mobile offerings, rather than a replacement for any other IBM mobile product. The ThinkPad 701C and 701CS have enhanced connectivity capability through the use of the standard MultiPort II, or by docking with the ThinkPad Dock II using the ThinkPad 701 Dock II Adapter Kit. The ThinkPad's unique portability, performance, and usability should appeal to business, education, and government professionals who require a portable system that's convenient to use at the office, at home, while traveling, and at remote locations. The ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade is designed to provide users with a performance upgrade path for selected ThinkPad models. PUBLICATIONS The following publications are shipped with the product. Additional copies are available. Order Part Title Number Number ThinkPad 701C and 701CS User's Guide GA27-4080 04H8365 Modem Manual GA27-4081 10H4104 The following publications are available. To order, contact your IBM representative. Order Part Title Number Number Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement S19H-1258 19H1258 Appropriate updates related to the ThinkPad 701C and 701CS will be made in the next revision of the maintenance manual. TECHNICAL INFORMATION Specified Operating Environment Battery operation hours and charging hours are: Function Hours Power on/suspend charging 1.5 Charging during operation* 2.0 to 3.0 Typical battery operation (Range)* 2.5 to 7.0 * Figures reflect industry standard tests (DX2-50 with NiCd battery). Actual battery life depends on power management settings, applications, and customer usage. The Suspend time is typically two to three weeks, depending on system and battery characteristics. Physical Specifications o Shipping Carton (approximate size and weight) - Width: 165 mm (6.5 in) - Depth: 503 mm (19.8 in) - Height: 368 mm (14.5 in) - Weight: 3.7 kg (8.2 lb) o System Unit* - Depth: 201 mm (7.9 in) - Width: 247 mm (9.7 in) - Height: 44 mm (1.7 in) - Weight: 2050 g (4.5 lb) Note: System weight includes the system unit, NiCd battery, and modem. The AC adapter and external FDD are not included. o MultiPort II* - Depth: 44 mm (1.7 in) - Width: 254 mm (10.0 in) - Height: 22 mm (0.9 in) - Weight: 156 g (0.34 lb) o External FDD* - Depth: 143 mm (5.6 in) - Width: 105 mm (4.1 in) - Height: 16 mm (0.6 in) - Weight: 255 g (0.56 lb) * Actual specifications may vary due to vendor components and manufacturing process. System Operating Environment o Operating temperature: 5(degs) to 35(degs)C (41(degs) to 95(degs)F) o Non-operating temperature: .6(degs) to 45(degs)C (33(degs) to 113(degs)F) o Storage/Shipment: -20(degs) to 60(degs)C (-4(degs) to 140(degs)F) o Relative humidity: 8% to 80% (non-condensing) o Altitude (operating/nonoperating): 0 to 2,133 meters (0 to 7,000 feet) Agency Approvals o System unit - ETL to UL 1950 (Safety) - ETL to CSA 22.2 950 - NOM - NEMKO - OVE - VCCI - CE - DOC - FCC Part 15 - FCC Part 68 o AC/DC adapter and battery - UL (The rechargeable battery is UL component recognized.) - CSA (AC adapters are CSA certified and UL listed.) - OVE - Japan - NEMKO - NOM Hardware Requirements: For detailed information, refer to the Specified Operating Environment, Physical Specifications, and Software Requirements sections. Software Requirements: The following operating systems support the ThinkPad 701C and 701CS: o IBM PC DOS 7.0 o IBM PC DOS 6.3 o OS/2 Warp Version 3 o OS/2 2.11 o OS/2.1 for Windows 3.1 with ServicePak XR06300 (call 800-992-4777 to get this ServicePak) o MS-DOS** 6.22 o Microsoft Windows 3.11 o Microsoft Windows for Workgroups 3.11 o OS/2 LAN Server Entry Version 4.0 o OS/2 LAN Server Advanced Version 4.0 o OS/2 LAN Server Entry Version 3.0 o OS/2 LAN Server Advanced Version 3.0 o Communications Manager/2 Version 1.1 o Database/2 OS/2 Version 1.0 Compatibility and Supported Products The ThinkPad 701C and 701CS systems are designed to be compatible with the following peripherals and software products that run on other PS/2(R) systems. Other peripherals may also work but have not been tested by IBM. Refer to the 2630 Sales Manual pages or contact your IBM representative for a complete list of supported features and options and compatible IBM and vendor software. The Sales Manual is updated periodically. PCMCIA Cards: The ThinkPad 701C and 701CS conform to the PCMCIA PC Card Standard release 2.01 and the PCMCIA Card and Socket Services Specification release 2.0, dated November 1992. Some of the items shipped standard with your system may not be available as features. Customers who want to replace these items may order them through dealers or through the IBM Parts Order Center at 800-388-7080. IBM and Hardware Vendor PCMCIA Cards on ThinkPad 701C and 701CS: Various PCMCIA cards are in the process of being tested on the ThinkPad 701C and 701CS in a DOS, Windows, and/or OS/2 environment by an independent test laboratory, a PC card vendor, or other IBM technical services. A complete list of supported PCMCIA cards is available. You can access this list through the IBM PC Card Manager Utility preinstalled on each ThinkPad 701C and 701CS. IBM Memory Cards Feature Part Description Number Number 4MB SO-DIMM Memory Card (3.3V) 3975 92G7259 8MB SO-DIMM Memory Card (3.3V) 3976 92G7261 16MB SO-DIMM Memory Card (3.3V) 3977 92G7263 IBM Enhanced Keyboards Feature Part Description Number Number Enhanced Keyboard with PS/2 Style Cable 5229 59G7980 ThinkPad Space Saver Keyboard (Black) 2298 84G2524 ThinkPad Numeric Keypad (Black) 2299 84G2533 Previously Announced Supported Optional Features Feature Part Description Number Number PS/2 Miniature Mouse (Black) 5443 07G0033 PS/2 Numeric Keypad 5445 07G0032 PS/2 Keyboard/Mouse Connector 3145 54G0441 IBM Displays o 15P Color Monitor (Black Livery) Model B01 o 8512 Color Display o 9514 Color Display These displays can be used with most ThinkPad systems, port replicators, and docking stations. For detailed information on the 15P Color Monitor, refer to Hardware Announcement 193-304, dated September 28, 1993. Software Compatibility: The following IBM software products are designed to be compatible with the ThinkPad 701C and 701CS systems and operate substantially as described in their program documentation. o Languages - Basic Compiler/2(TM) 1.2 - C/2(TM) 1.1 - Macro Assembler/2(TM) 1.0 o Communications - PC 3270 Emulation Program Entry Level 2.0* - Personal Communications/3270 3.0* - Personal Communications/3270 3.1* - LAN Support Program 1.3 - PC LAN Program 1.34 * Requires PTF UR07753 for PCMCIA support Limitations Use of Suspend and Hibernate Modes o If you enter Suspend or Hibernate mode with a diskette inserted in the diskette drive, the same diskette must be installed in the drive before your computer can resume normal operation. o If you enter Suspend or Hibernate mode when resuming the operation, the same HDD should be in the system. o If you enter Suspend or Hibernate mode with a PCMCIA card inserted in the PCMCIA slot, the same PCMCIA card must be in the PCMCIA slot when resuming operation. o If you are connected to a local area network (LAN) that periodically polls for station activity, your connection may be terminated while the computer is in Suspend or Hibernate mode. Any software program that was running over the LAN is not re-entered when you resume. o The system does not enter Suspend or Hibernate mode while a PCMCIA modem card is in busy status. General Limitations o The battery will charge in Suspend mode when the power switch is in the "on" position but will not charge if the power switch is in the "off" position. The battery will not charge while in Hibernation mode. o Color display drivers for 256 and 64K colors for IBM OS/2 Warp Version 3.0 will be included on systems preinstalled with OS/2 Warp. A 16-million-color driver will be added when available. When any additional color drivers become available, the drivers will be provided on the IBM PC Company Bulletin Board (PCCO BBS). o IBM recommends 6MB, or higher, system memory and a hard disk size of 120MB, or higher, for many application scenarios in the OS/2 environment. o A maximum modem speed of 9600 baud can be used with FaxWorks and OS/2 Warp Version 3.0. o Installation of the software update named WIN311.ZIP is required to use a WIN-OS/2(TM) session when OS/2 for WIN is used with Windows 3.11. o The IR functions are not available under native OS/2 sessions at this time. o When using the Redirector feature of the Connectivity Pack for the HP 100LX to exchange data over an IR link at 115Kbps, the ThinkPad 701C and 701CS should be configured as the requestor. o The modem should not be attached to digital or digital telephone PBX systems. These systems may cause damage to the modem. o The ThinkPad 701C and 701CS support software fax programs with Class 1 fax interface only, not Class 2. o The IBM Enhanced Mouse (92G7457) cannot be used with TrackPoint III. When using the Enhanced Mouse, TrackPoint III should be disabled. o The system is designed so you can install or remove the PCMCIA card without turning off the system, if the PCMCIA card supports this function. Refer to the instructions that come with the PCMCIA card. o When installing two Type II PCMCIA communications cards in the PCMCIA slot, there may be some cable interference that allows only one card to be used. o The use of PCMCIA card point enablers is not recommended; you should use the IBM PC Card Director. PCMCIA card point enablers may write directly to the hardware, by passing Socket and Card Services Release 2.1. Writing directly to the hardware may cause problems that cannot be anticipated. Also, point enablers may interfere with client device drivers that do communicate with Socket and Card Services Release 2.1. Additional customer testing in their specific environments is recommended. o PCMCIA card point enablers usually do not support a slot number greater than two. If using a PCMCIA card with a point enabler, ensure that the proper slot is supported by the point enabler. o The IBM 8516 Touch Screen Color Display and IBM ThinkPad Space Saver Keyboard require that the TrackPoint III be disabled before you connect them to the system. To disable the TrackPoint III, follow the instructions provided in the ThinkPad 701C and 701CS User's Guide. o Password prompt is not displayed when the computer resumes from "partial" Suspend mode while it is attached to the IBM ThinkPad Dock II. However, you must type the correct password to resume. o All IDE hard disk drives, except the IBM ThinkPad 755 drives that are sensed and configured automatically, must be configured as "slave" when used with the ThinkPad 701C and 701CS systems using file bays in ThinkPad Dock II. Suspend Mode Operational Considerations o Operating Systems: The Suspend mode is supported when the PC card uses one of the following operating systems: - OS/2 Warp Version 3.0 - OS/2 2.11, and later - IBM PC DOS 6.3 - Microsoft Windows 3.11 with DOS 6.3 Note: Do not remove or install PCMCIA cards during Suspend mode. When using Windows 3.11, ensure that Advanced Power Management (APM) is installed. The installation instructions are in the user's guide Installing Microsoft Windows Version 3.11 (or later). Without this step, power management will not work correctly, and can cause errors, such as mouse problems after suspend/resume. o Communications: When the computer communicates with other systems via any communication PC card, the following precautions must be considered before using the Suspend function. - When the computer is powered by the battery pack, the computer automatically turns power off to the PC card before entering Suspend mode, so the duration of Suspend mode will last longer. Therefore, the computer will not restore the communications application when it returns to normal operation from Suspend mode, except when the following PCMCIA cards are used: IBM PCMCIA Data/Fax Modem and IBM High Speed PCMCIA Data/Fax Modem. - To re-establish communication after suspend mode, restart the system or the application program. - For non-disruptive battery exchange, you can put the system in Suspend mode and exchange battery packs without any loss of data or function. Pentium Upgrade Option for ThinkPad 755CE, CSE, and CD: Installation of the Pentium Upgrade option in the ThinkPad 755CE, CSE, and CD disables the parity check function of the system. Planning Information Customer Responsibilities: The ThinkPad 701C and 701CS are designed for customer setup. Setup documentation is contained in the user's guide shipped with the system. The ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade Kit (755CS/CSE/CD) is not customer installable. Cable Orders: All required cables are included with the system. Installability: The ThinkPad 701C and 701CS systems require approximately 15 minutes for installation. Installation includes unpacking, setting up, and powering on the system. Additional time is required to install other memory and features, and to customize software. Problem Determination: If a failure is found at initial installation, an instruction or error code is displayed on the screen. Note this information and refer to the user's guide shipped with the system unit. For additional assistance, call the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. The troubleshooting procedures consist of power-on self-test, diagnostic tests, and easy-to-follow troubleshooting charts designed to assist users in isolating a defective machine element. The failing element can then be replaced or repaired under existing warranty provisions. The ThinkPad 701C and 701CS also have advanced diagnostics preinstalled on the hard disk drive to assist servicers. Packaging: The ThinkPad 701C and 701CS systems have preinstalled software: Machine Part Model Number Description 2630-UT2 04H6756 (TFT, 360MB, DX2/4MB) 2630-UT5 04H6757 (TFT, 540MB, DX2/4MB) 2630-US2 04H6753 (DSTN, 360MB, DX2/4MB) 2630-US5 04H6754 (DSTN, 540MB, DX2/4MB) 2630-2TU 25H4838 (TFT, 360MB, DX4/8MB) 2630-5TU 25H4839 (TFT, 540MB, DX4/8MB) 2630-2SU 25H4836 (DSTN, 360MB, DX4/8MB) 2630-5SU 25H4837 (DSTN, 540MB, DX4/8MB) The system unit carton contains: o System unit with U.S. English keyboard, display, and preinstalled software o AC adapter (110/220V) with flip-out, two-prong plug o Rechargeable battery pack o MultiPort II o Diskette drive and cable o ECC/EPP port printer cable o Shipment group manuals - ThinkPad 701C and 701CS User's Guide - Product MAP - Modem manual - Application envelope - PC DOS 6.3 documentation - Windows 3.11 documentation - OS/2 Warp 3.0 documentation package* - Errata package -- Errata envelope -- Carrying case brochure -- Keyboard template -- Monologue for Windows/DOS -- System program license agreement (PLA) -- Customer registration form -- HelpCenter label -- International Hardware Warranty Service -- PLA for Diskette Factory -- TrackPoint III caps (four caps -- two black and two red) * In DX4-based models only Security, Auditability, and Control Security and auditability features of the ThinkPad 701C and 701CS are: o Power-on password protection o Resume password lock o Microsaver** security connector User management is responsible for evaluation, selection, and implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. TERMS AND CONDITIONS These products are available for purchase under the terms of the IBM Customer Agreement (ICA). IBM Credit Corporation Financing: Term leases and installment payment plans are available for commercial and state and local government customers. Warranty Period: o System Hardware: Three years; an optional one-year warranty is available via special bid. o System Battery: One year o Optional Features: One year o IBM Programs: Three months o Media: Three months o Non-IBM Programs: Not warranted by IBM; warranty, if any, is as provided by the program's supplier. Licensing: IBM programs included with the ThinkPad 701C and 701CS are licensed under the terms and conditions of the IBM Program License Agreement and IBM Systems Program License Agreement. Copies of these agreements are included in the documentation that ships with the system. Non-IBM programs are available from IBM as distributed by the program supplier. Terms and conditions of the supplier apply. They are included in their respective program packages in the documentation that ships with the system and are passed on to the customer. Warranty Service ThinkPad EasyServ: Warranty service for the ThinkPad 701C and 701CS will be provided by ThinkPad EasyServ. ThinkPad EasyServ is a courier repair service in which the ThinkPad system will be picked up at the customer's location and delivered to an IBM-designated repair location. The repaired machine will be returned to the customer. Charges for the courier service will be paid by IBM. If warranty service is required, the customer should call the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. The HelpCenter will assist the user with problem isolation for both hardware and software. If a hardware problem is identified, the HelpCenter will arrange for a courier to pick up the system for overnight delivery (where available) to the repair location. Most repairs should be made the same day the system is received at the repair location. Customers should keep the original shipping carton for shipping to the repair location. If the original shipping carton is not available, the courier will deliver a shipping carton and return to pick up the system for delivery to the repair location. International Warranty Service (2630): Customers who travel or need to move products to another country will be able to register the products for IBM International Warranty Service. Upon registering with the International Warranty Service Office (IWSO), IBM will issue an International Service Certificate that will be honored virtually worldwide, where IBM or IBM resellers sell and service IBM PC products. During the original warranty period, customers will be provided service through the service delivery methods available for their specific IBM system in the servicing country. For more information on IBM International Warranty Service or to register your IBM PC systems, contact IBM at 800-IWS-7426 (497-7426). Refer to IBM International Warranty Services Announcement 694-028, dated October 17, 1994. Alternative Service o IBM On-site Repair (IOR) On-site service will not be offered as a generally available option. Customers who require a more timely repair option can select either the ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option or on-site service via a special bid process. Contact your area Service Marketing Specialist for details. o ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option Maintenance Service o ThinkPad EasyServ (2630) Maintenance Agreement ThinkPad EasyServ is a courier repair service in which the ThinkPad system will be picked up at the customer's location and delivered to an IBM-designated repair location. The repaired machine will be returned to the customer. Charges for the courier service will be paid by IBM. o ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option The ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option allows customers whose mobile machines are under an IBM EasyServ Warranty or IBM EasyServ Maintenance Agreement to upgrade the service to overnight repair with a per incident charge. Customers should call the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227 for information on utilizing this service. o IOR -- via a special bid process only o IBM Per Call Service Note: Non-IBM products installed in a ThinkPad 701C and 701CS either on Warranty or Maintenance Service may be serviced by IBM. Additional service support charges may apply. IBM Hourly Service Rate Classification: One IBM Warranty Service, Maintenance Service, or IBM Hourly Service may be obtained by calling the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. IBM Hourly Service is available at the applicable rate and terms, including element exchange price, if applicable. Extended Maintenance Option: The announced products are not eligible for the Extended Maintenance Option under the ICA. Product Availability Status: New product available Field Installable Features: Yes Model Conversions: No Customer Setup: Yes The following new optional features for the 755CE, CSE, and CD can only be installed by IBM-trained service personnel. Feature Part Description Number Number ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade Kit (755CE/CSE)(2) 4416 85G8609 ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade Kit (755CD)(2) 4440 29H8755 Feature Part Description Number Number ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade (755CE/CSE)(3) None 2420671 ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade (755CD)(3) None 2420672 Licensed Internal Code: No National Education Price (NEP): A NEP is available CHARGES Machine Single Part Type/ Unit Description Number Model Price* 701C (360MB, TFT, DX2) 2630UT2 2630-UT2 $4,799 701C (540MB, TFT, DX2) 2630UT5 2630-UT5 5,149 701CS (360MB, DSTN, DX2) 2630US2 2630-US2 3,799 701CS (540MB, DSTN, DX2) 2630US5 2630-US5 4,149 701C (360MB, TFT, DX4) 26302TU 2630-2TU 5,299 701C (540MB, TFT, DX4) 26305TU 2630-5TU 5,649 701CS (360MB, DSTN, DX4) 26302SU 2630-2SU 4,399 701CS (540MB, DSTN, DX4) 26305SU 2630-5SU 4,749 Optional Features Single Feature Part Unit Description Number Number Price* 701C Dock II Adapter Kit 4225 04H6196 N/A(4) 701C 540MB HDD File 4226 04H6894 $ 899 701C 720MB HDD File 4227 10H4096 1,299 701C Super NiCd Battery Pack 4229 10H4019 75 701C AC Adapter, Wall Mount 4230 10H4020 45 701C MultiPort II Port Enabler 4234 10H4021 179 701C External FDD and Cable 4235 10H4068 125 701 EPP Printer Cable and FDD Cable Pack 4241 10H4069 29 701 NiMh Battery Pack 4413 25H4862 115 AC Adapter 35W 8070 85G6680 49 Pentium Upgrade Option for 755CE/CSE/CD Single Feature Part Unit Description Number Number Price* Pentium Upgrade Kit 755CE/CSE(2) 4416 85G8609 N/A Pentium Upgrade Kit 755CD(2) 4440 29H8755 N/A Pentium Upgrade Kit 755CE/CSE(3) None 2420671 $1,149 Pentium Upgrade Kit 755CD(3) None 2420672 1,149 (2) Installation charges may apply (3) ThinkPad EasyServ only -- installation included. Available through direct response marketing only; call 800-IBM-2YOU (426-2968) to order. * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit, in any way, the remarketers' ability to set prices for IBM products. (4) Not applicable; this product will be priced at its availability in second quarter 1995. N/A = Not applicable Alternative and Maintenance Service Charges Annual Minimum Maintenance Charges Machine ThinkPad Type/Model EasyServ 2630-UT2 $280 2630-UT5 280 2630-US2 215 2630-US5 215 2630-2TU 280 2630-5TU 280 2630-2SU 215 2630-5SU 215 Service Support Charge for Non-IBM Products Warranty $40 Maintenance Service 40 (TM) Trademark of International Business Machines Corporation From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Mar 9 06:59:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22270; Thu, 9 Mar 95 06:59:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24890; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 05:39:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 05:39:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24799; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 05:39:03 -0500 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA14318 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 12:38:31 +0200 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 12:38:31 +0200 Message-Id: <199503091038.MAA14318@ra.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpine@130.232.18.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: FAQ B.1.11. Can I format high density (2MB) floppies to 2.88mb? >B.1.11. Can I format high density (2MB) floppies to 2.88mb? > > Yes, but it's at your own risk. I've done it and a number of B.1.11.2 HOW can I format high density (2MB) floppies to 2.88mb? Antti Kilpinen, Ph.D (Chem.Eng.) Research Fellow Institute for Advanced Management Systems Research Abo Akademi University, DataCity FIN-20520 Turku From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 9 10:12:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03348; Thu, 9 Mar 95 10:12:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10930; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 10:00:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 10:00:15 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub-gate.UB.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10904; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 10:00:13 -0500 Received: from garfield (garfield.UB.com) by ub-gate.UB.com (4.1/SMI-4.1[UB-1.9.1]) id AA16733; Thu, 9 Mar 95 06:59:37 PST Received: from smtp.UB.com ([128.203.7.39]) by garfield (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19407; Thu, 9 Mar 95 06:59:24 PST Received: by smtp.UB.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.0)/1.2) id AA0280; Thu, 09 Mar 95 07:01:26 -0800 Message-Id: <9503091501.AA0280@smtp.UB.com> Received: from UB with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 5DF8984933801E998525617A00505436; Thu, 9 Mar 95 07:01:25 To: tp750 From: Ken Yee/UB Networks Date: 9 Mar 95 9:46:01 EDT Subject: RE: What we've all been waiting for Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > hosseino @ yu1.yu.edu (Joshua Hosseinof) writes: > The Pentium upgrade is only for the 755CE/CSE/CD and costs $1149. This is a bit weird. How does it use system memory? The Pentium uses a 64-bit bus. The cache probably does the 64-bit to 32-bit conversion so the performance will be less than true Pentium laptops... > Surprisingly the 701 uses a "Super Nicad" instead of NiMH. Also you now > have the option of getting OS2 WARP pre-installed. A lot of caveats with > this model and alot of options won't be available for a few months. Other info on it: - The built-in faxmodem is not based on the Mwave because the chip was too big (I'm disappointed)-: It is based on the Yamaha chip so it is soundblaster compatible. In the trade rags, it is referred to as the ESS/Yamaha sound subsystem. - The TFT display can show 1.7M colors in 16.7M color mode which is a step up from the 755CE/CD displays. No idea when a Cardbus model will ship or when a true Pentium model will ship. The above info was from chatting w/ one of the 701 developers who posted on comp.sys.laptops...just wanted to mention it here because it doesn't show up on any IBM spec sheets I've seen... I'm also hoping for 800x600 displays in the Fall, but we'll have to see... ken From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 9 10:12:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03453; Thu, 9 Mar 95 10:12:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10762; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 09:58:47 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 09:58:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10751; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 09:58:43 -0500 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.15/Task/HJ-5) id AA044371111; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 15:58:32 +0100 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.15/HJ/Task-5) id AA027971111; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 15:58:31 +0100 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199503091458.AA027971111@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: 755cd' cdrom still not OK? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 15:58:31 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have uppdated the TP755CD with the latest system disk sytpe100.exe from ftp.pcco.ibm.com. This seemed to fix the internal cdrom all right. But now I have gotten hold of Under a Killing Moon. A four cd-rom game. When the game ask me to switch to cdrom #1 or #2 I do so, but it is not able to recognize the cdrom it is asking for. When using Bus Toaster PCMCIA SCSI and a NEC 3Xp it all works OK. Anyone else tried UKM on their 755cd ? -- //// Harald Skotnes // Email: harald@staff.cs.uit.no / /// Dept. of Computer Science // Phone: +47 77 64 41 16 // // University of Tromsoe // Fax: +47 77 64 40 54 /// / N-9037 TROMSOE NORWAY // Like it or not, it's One World //// From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 9 10:36:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04191; Thu, 9 Mar 95 10:36:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12627; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 10:21:35 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 10:21:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12617; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 10:21:31 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA21607; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 09:21:29 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 10:22:06 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <37327.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New OS/2 driver bug? In message Wed, 8 Mar 95 18:54:51 -0500, Chris Hanson writes: > first symptom. However, I have had a variety of palette-related bugs > ever since upgrading to Warp. These problems have persisted after I > installed the new WD drivers last month. Same here, on a mono. > In addition to getting scrambled thumbnails in PMView, I've also had > trouble with desktop colors acting strangely -- specifically, when I > first brought up Warp, the background was not a solid color, but > mixed. I then went into the background page of the settings notebook, > and found that, according to the settings page, the desktop _was_ a > solid color. Turning "solid color" off and then back on fixed the > problem. I found double clicking on the desktop several times eventually fixed it, although it always comes back. ______________________________________________________________________ |\ _____________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Um ... no." -- Outfielder Darryl Strawberry's | | | jokim@mit.edu hesitant reply when asked by a judge if he | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu had taken drugs in the past few days. | \|______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 9 10:44:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04762; Thu, 9 Mar 95 10:44:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13458; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 10:33:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 10:33:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13442; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 10:33:05 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rmkDG-0004tfC; Thu, 9 Mar 95 09:33 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rmkDF-0002nbC; Thu, 9 Mar 95 09:33 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rmkDE-0002wvC; Thu, 9 Mar 95 09:33 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: No sound in Windoze (OS/2)??? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 09:33:16 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <6AZNlWwf5BVH078yn@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> from "Sean Chou" at Mar 8, 95 05:41:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Are you using Warp? I've heard of (and experienced) drop out > of sound AFTER using a Windows session. There's a patch > available from the usual places (Walnut Creek, Hobbes, etc.). Been there, works. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 9 13:34:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17314; Thu, 9 Mar 95 13:34:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26250; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 13:21:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 13:21:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from FOSTERS.ROC.SERVTECH.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26239; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 13:21:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 95 13:26:23 EST Message-Id: <9503091326.AA25600@FOSTERS.ROC.SERVTECH.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Randall King" Reply-To: To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Hello all... X-Mailer: Hey all, I just signed up for the list. Thought I would drop a note to everyone. I work at a company that has several hundred 750's and I work primarily with hardware (esp XJ1144 modems). We should soon be getting the new TP360's to distribute to our people, so I have a special interest in what people think of those. I look forward to hearing from everyone. l8r, Randall King rjking@fosters.roc.servtech.com -- "Fosters, it's not just a beer, it's a lifestyle!" - me From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 9 15:57:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28178; Thu, 9 Mar 95 15:57:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07426; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 15:45:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 15:45:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sh1.ro.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07413; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 15:45:43 -0500 Received: from ts1p5.ro.rom (ts1p5.ro.rom [204.181.74.25]) by sh1.ro.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA02924; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 14:48:52 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 14:48:52 -0600 Message-Id: <199503092048.OAA02924@sh1.ro.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: schou@uiuc.edu From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: Adaptec PCMCIA SCSI card w/Warp Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sean, I am presently using the Adaptec/Trantor APA-460 PCMCIA SCSI controller with my TP750C and OS/2 Warp. Adaptec has a beta version of a driver for the controller which works well but can only be added after OS/2 has already been installed. It will not work during boot-up so it cannot be used to install OS/2 from CDROM. I used my Trantor Mini-SCSI parallel port controller to install OS/2 from CD and then added the other driver for the APA-460 card once I got OS/2 up and running. Also, awhile ago I saw on the Compuserve TP Forum an open letter from a Microsoft driver developer to the IBMmers running the forum. It said that he (a manager at Microsoft) was willing to get one of his employees to develop Windows NT video driver(s) for the IBM TP if IBM would agree to take over support of the driver later on. He was planning on giving the software to IBM. Mike Anderson was going to go try to find someone at IBM to agree to the deal. Mike and the Microsoft guy agreed that both companies could benefit from the deal. I haven't been back on the forum to learn the results but you could email Mike and find out for sure. Thanks for your hard work on the FAQ. It is looking very good. Let me know if you need more info about anything. Don Ramsey From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 9 19:42:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21463; Thu, 9 Mar 95 19:42:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24065; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 19:30:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 19:30:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24035; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 19:30:05 -0500 Received: from @hooked.net (webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA05090 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 16:29:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199503100029.QAA05090@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 16:29:55 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: forsale: 755cs/75 20/340 Well, I'm thinking more seriously about switching to a powerbook.. would do it next month, and would be looking to sell my thinkpad (sniff, sniff). 755cs/75 20 meg ram 340 meg hd 14.4 mhz xjack modem ibm case entertaining offers.. -- ______________________________________________________________ jesse montrose login status available at http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 9 22:39:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08192; Thu, 9 Mar 95 22:39:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05192; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 22:31:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 22:31:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05180; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 22:31:29 -0500 Received: from dec3300.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA18794; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 20:25:10 -0700 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by dec3300.cuug.ab.ca (5.65//ident-1.0) id AA15663; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 20:27:55 -0700 Message-Id: <9503100327.AA15663@dec3300.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Dock II SCSI & Linux To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 20:27:55 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I friend at work has a 360CSE and a Dock II. I has a SCSI CD-ROM attached at wanted to use it in Linux. Linux wasn't recognizing the Dock II SCSI though. I had heard others had problems but on investigation the problem was found. The Linux kernel is looking in the BIOS for a signature. The Dock II SCSI reports itself as an AHA-1532P. Linux doesn't have this in its list of signatures. I will be asking for this to be added to the kernel but for now anyone who want to fix this can edit drivers/scsi/aha152x.c and search for the list of signatures. Add: { "Adaptec BIOS:AHA-1532P", 0x1c, 22 } to the list and Linux should now recognize and work fine with the Dock II SCSI! This should be added to the FAQ too. Is the maintainer out there? +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 10 09:44:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13524; Fri, 10 Mar 95 09:44:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16599; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 09:18:32 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 09:18:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16589; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 09:18:27 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id JAA23707 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 09:19:19 -0500 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id 54CFE1; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 09:26:09 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: GAME Setup From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.847601.700@channel1.com> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 09:10:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: GAME Setup Greetings, If someone has separate boot for games, would you please post your auto/config files. Thank You in advance! Joseph joseph.pereira@channel1.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 10 11:53:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20405; Fri, 10 Mar 95 11:53:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26350; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 11:29:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 11:29:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26337; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 11:29:07 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA01348; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 08:29:00 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA06404; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 08:28:49 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199503101628.IAA06404@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: GAME Setup To: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 08:28:48 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <40.847601.700@channel1.com> from "Joseph Pereira" at Mar 10, 95 09:10:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subject: GAME Setup > > Greetings, > If someone has separate boot for games, would you please post your > auto/config files. Thank You in advance! > Joseph > joseph.pereira@channel1.com Here's the appropriate section gleaned from my config.sys: [MENU] menuitem=SOUNDBLASTER, Setup for Soundblaster Emulation menuitem=SBNET, Setup for SB Emulation with WFWG Network menuitem=MAXMEM, Maximum Memory Available [SOUNDBLASTER] STACKS=0,0 DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM I=E000-E5FF I=B000-B7FF DOS=HIGH,umb rem ************** DOS Sound ***************** rem DOS Audio Device Driver: DEVICEhigh=C:\IBMAUDIO\DIAG\AUDTEST.SYS /V=10 DEVICEhigh=C:\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD\TPAUDDD.SYS rem ************ ANSI Driver ************** DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS [SBNET] DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM I=E000-E5FF I=B000-B7FF DOS=HIGH,umb rem ************** DOS Sound ***************** rem DOS Audio Device Driver: DEVICEhigh=C:\IBMAUDIO\DIAG\AUDTEST.SYS /V=10 DEVICEhigh=C:\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD\TPAUDDD.SYS rem ************ ANSI Driver ************** DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS DeviceHigh=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS STACKS=9,256 LASTDRIVE=Z [MAXMEM] STACKS=0,0 DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS RAM I=E000-E5FF I=B000-B7FF DOS=HIGH,umb [COMMON] rem ********* Other Stuff ******************* FILES=40 BUFFERS=20 rem ******* Advanced Power Management (APM) Driver ******* DeviceHigh=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE rem *********** Stacker ******************** DEVICE=C:\STAC\DPMS.EXE DeviceHIGH=C:\STAC\STACHIGH.SYS And from my Autoexec.bat: :SOUNDBLASTER LH C:\DOS\Smartdrv.exe 3072 512 PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\NDW;C:\THINKPAD;C:\DOS;C:\BAT;D:\TOOLS\NU;C:\STAC;E:\games ps2 br n rem ******* To install SoundBlaster Compatibility ******** SET DSPPATH=C:\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD LOADHIGH C:\IBMAUDIO\VDD\SVAUDIO.EXE LH C:\DOS\Mouse.com call c:\bat\ownrecho.bat :SBNET LH C:\DOS\Smartdrv.exe 1024 512 PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\NDW;C:\THINKPAD;C:\DOS;C:\BAT;D:\TOOLS\NU;C:\STAC;E:\games ps2 br n rem ******* To install SoundBlaster Compatibility ******** SET DSPPATH=C:\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD SET WIN$=C:\WINDOWS LOADHIGH C:\IBMAUDIO\VDD\SVAUDIO.EXE LH C:\DOS\Mouse.com LH C:\IBMVESA\VESA C:\WINDOWS\net start /verbose call c:\bat\ownrecho.bat goto checkwin :MAXMEM PATH=C:\DOS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\BAT;C:\THINKPAD;C:\STAC ps2 br n call c:\bat\ownrecho.bat goto end :END I don't know if this will help any, but it works for me. But then again, I really don't play games much on my ThinkPad. I can easily count on one hand how many times I booted up with any of these configurations in the past 6 months. ;) ----- _____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | I don't recycle. | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | I'm a consumer; | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | dammit-- | right, they should be yours too.) | I consume! | ----------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 11 01:45:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17350; Sat, 11 Mar 95 01:45:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA06791; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 01:33:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 01:33:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom23.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA06781; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 01:33:54 -0500 Received: from netcom23.netcom.com by netcom23.netcom.com (8.6.10/Netcom) id WAA01234; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 22:33:03 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 22:33:03 -0800 Message-Id: <199503110633.WAA01234@netcom23.netcom.com> X-Sender: dvchan@netcom23.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dvchan@netcom.com (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Re: Dock II SCSI & Linux >I friend at work has a 360CSE and a Dock II. I has a SCSI CD-ROM >attached at wanted to use it in Linux. Linux wasn't recognizing >the Dock II SCSI though. I had heard others had problems but on >investigation the problem was found. > >The Linux kernel is looking in the BIOS for a signature. The >Dock II SCSI reports itself as an AHA-1532P. Linux doesn't have >this in its list of signatures. In the linux config: include the following: the 1532p is compatible w/ the 152x series.... aha152x=0x340,11,7,1 >I will be asking for this to be added to the kernel but for now >anyone who want to fix this can edit drivers/scsi/aha152x.c and >search for the list of signatures. Add: > >{ "Adaptec BIOS:AHA-1532P", 0x1c, 22 } > >to the list and Linux should now recognize and work fine with the >Dock II SCSI! > >This should be added to the FAQ too. Is the maintainer out there? > >+----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ >| "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | >| cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | >| why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | >| loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | >+------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ > > Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 11 02:49:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20250; Sat, 11 Mar 95 02:49:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10480; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 02:42:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 02:42:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po8.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10470; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 02:42:48 -0500 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po8.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id CAA21043 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 02:42:41 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 02:42:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix15.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 02:41:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix15.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 02:41:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix15.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix15.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 02:41:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 02:41:53 -0500 (EST) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: midi sequencer for os/2 I have tp755cs and am looking for a midi sequencer that runs under os/2 and works with the tp sound chip. anything out there? thanks in advance ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sang Kim Je veux que tout le monde sache que j'aime sk6k@andrew.cmu.edu Alexis Hayes, la princesse de l'ecole de Denver (WOW, quelle femme!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 11 06:00:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00218; Sat, 11 Mar 95 06:00:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24904; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 05:51:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 05:51:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from village.slip.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24882; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 05:51:42 -0500 Received: by village.slip.uiuc.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0207; Sat, 11 Mar 95 04:44:35 -0800 To: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: Adaptec PCMCIA SCSI card w/Warp Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 04:06:31 -0500 Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199503092048.OAA02924@sh1.ro.com> Lines: 19 dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) wrote: > I am presently using the Adaptec/Trantor APA-460 PCMCIA SCSI controller > with my TP750C and OS/2 Warp. Adaptec has a beta version of a driver for Ah good. Do you know if this is the same card as the IBM SCSI PCMCIA card? I've heard rumors that the IBM SCSI card is just a rewrapped Adaptec SCSI card. > Also, awhile ago I saw on the Compuserve TP Forum an open letter from a > Microsoft driver developer to the IBMmers running the forum. It said that Ha! Sounds too good to be true... > to IBM. Mike Anderson was going to go try to find someone at IBM to agree Mike Anderson seems like a nice and dedicated guy. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / Compuserve: 73672,2111 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 11 06:00:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00223; Sat, 11 Mar 95 06:00:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24920; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 05:52:13 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 05:52:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from village.slip.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24908; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 05:52:10 -0500 Received: by village.slip.uiuc.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0211; Sat, 11 Mar 95 04:45:10 -0800 To: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: Dock II SCSI & Linux Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 04:11:39 -0500 Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9503100327.AA15663@dec3300.cuug.ab.ca> Lines: 7 pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) wrote: > This should be added to the FAQ too. Is the maintainer out there? Of course! :) --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / Compuserve: 73672,2111 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 11 12:06:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19922; Sat, 11 Mar 95 12:06:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08136; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 11:54:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 11:54:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08114; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 11:54:29 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id LAA05752; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 11:57:57 -0500 Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 11:57:56 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: "Derek V. Chan" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Dock II SCSI & Linux In-Reply-To: <199503110633.WAA01234@netcom23.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 10 Mar 1995, Derek V. Chan wrote: > >I friend at work has a 360CSE and a Dock II. I has a SCSI CD-ROM ... > >The Linux kernel is looking in the BIOS for a signature. The > >Dock II SCSI reports itself as an AHA-1532P. Linux doesn't have > >this in its list of signatures. > > In the linux config: > include the following: > the 1532p is compatible w/ the 152x series.... Interesting - does this mean the DockII has ASPI SCSI? Could you use Adaptec's drivers or CorelSCSI? Or does it _come_ with ASPI drivers? The lack of ASPI was a major point of irritation when we shelled out $700 at work for a dock for my boss's 720.... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 11 13:39:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25041; Sat, 11 Mar 95 13:39:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12068; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 13:26:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 13:26:53 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12042; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 13:26:51 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id NAA17731 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 13:27:40 -0500 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id 54D077; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 13:29:55 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Error in Bootup From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.848939.700@channel1.com> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 23:35:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: Error in Bootup Hi everyone, At boot up I get the following two separate error lines: EMM386 not installed-XMS manager not present Label Not Found Thanks for any help.... .....thanks Randy for your previous response!! Joseph From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 11 17:40:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11344; Sat, 11 Mar 95 17:40:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21199; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 17:29:16 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 17:29:14 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21186; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 17:29:12 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id RAA22250 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 17:30:04 -0500 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id 54D125; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 17:38:46 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Bootup errors From: joseph.pereira@channel1.com (Joseph Pereira) Message-Id: <40.850131.700@channel1.com> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 17:18:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: Bootup errors Hi everyone, At boot up I get the following two separate error lines: EMM386 not installed-XMS manager not present Label Not Found Thanks for any help.... .....thanks Randy for your previous response!! Joseph From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 11 18:11:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13100; Sat, 11 Mar 95 18:11:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22861; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 18:03:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 18:03:27 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22851; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 18:03:25 -0500 Received: from @hooked.net (worm.hooked.net [199.2.134.13]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA08188 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 15:03:18 -0800 Message-Id: <199503112303.PAA08188@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 15:03:16 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: poweron password? Okay, this is a bit weird, but I'm guessing it's happened to someone else, too :) I have a 755cs, and I was playing around with the poweron password. I set it, and it works great.. I can't change or remove it though. When I go into the initial setup screen, I can change the supervisor or drive passwords (they're both empty tho') but the poweron password is dimmed.. Any ideas? -- ______________________________________________________________ jesse montrose login status available at http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 11 20:34:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20680; Sat, 11 Mar 95 20:34:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28862; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 20:21:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 20:21:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28852; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 20:21:32 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id UAA25566; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 20:18:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199503120118.UAA25566@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ To: netbsd-help@netbsd.org, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: trying to install NetBSD 1.0/i386 on an IBM ThinkPad 750 Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU From: Keith Moore Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 20:18:13 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU I'm trying once again to install NetBSD 1.0 on my ThinkPad 750. I've had zero luck so far. I'm looking for suggestions. System: TP750, 810 MB hard disk from Sigma Data, 20Mb memory (4 built-in + 16Mb credit card), Dock I docking station with wd8003e ethernet card in the isa slot in the dock. Symptoms: the system gets wedged for no apparent reason. This often happens at the same place during installation. For instance, with one of the kernel-copy disks it happens right after the install script newfs'es the hard disk and during the part where it's trying to copy files over to it. Sometimes the floppy light stays on when the system is wedged; other times the hard drive light stays lit. Using several different tricks, I finally managed to get the thing installed on the hard disk. But now the system boots from the hard disk and gets wedged during fsck. Things I've tried: I tried pulling the 16Mb card so there's only 4MB. I tried using both the aha and the bt kernels. I tried it with and without the docking station. I tried installing the latest IBM flash BIOS upgrade. I tried booting from the floppy with -as and telling it to use the hard drive as root. All of these things cause the system to die at different times, but it still dies nonetheless. When it does, there's no panic message or anything -- the system just freezes up, and has to be power-cycled. Any suggestions about other things to try, patches to apply, ways to figure out where it's getting wedged -- are welcome. -- Keith Moore http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ Computer Science Department / University of Tennessee at Knoxville 107 Ayres Hall / Knoxville TN 37996-1301 "If you can read this, thank a geek." From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 11 20:42:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20862; Sat, 11 Mar 95 20:42:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29421; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 20:33:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 20:33:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from earth.execpc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29411; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 20:33:25 -0500 Received: from earth (earth [204.29.202.50]) by earth.execpc.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA05508 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 20:31:49 -0500 Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 19:31:48 -0600 (CST) From: Dave Clark X-Sender: dce@earth To: Thinkpad750 List Subject: 32-bit Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Have a 755CE, and tried turning on 32-bit disk access in Win 3.11 (I was bored), and was a little surprised to see that it wouldn't work... I thought this was supposed to be compat with both 32-bit disk & file access (in W4WG)... isn't it? I was hoping to use the file access option when I put W4WG on this thing... Tx DC From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 12 02:44:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13133; Sun, 12 Mar 95 02:44:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12721; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 02:02:22 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 02:02:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12703; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 02:02:16 -0500 Received: from hp.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA13193; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 23:55:56 -0700 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.38.193.4//ident-1.0) id AA01777; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 00:05:56 -0700 Message-Id: <9503120705.AA01777@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Video bios shadowing? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 00:05:56 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to use the dos emulator in Linux on my Thinkpad 755CD. It starts up but graphics stuff doesn't work. The DOSEMU manual mentions that video bios shadowing must be turned off so I thought maybe that is the problem. But I'm not sure how to tell on my machine whether the video bios is shadowed or how to turn it off if it is. I tried booting into the IBM setup stuff (holding down F1 when booting) but I found nothing there. I also tried the "ps2" command but it doesn't seem to be able to set or tell me about video bios shadowing either. So finally the question: Does anyone know anything about this? Anyone using DOSEMU on a Thinkpad? Thanks for any help! +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 12 03:50:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16533; Sun, 12 Mar 95 03:50:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16172; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 03:15:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 03:15:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16091; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 03:15:09 -0500 Received: from hp.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA76195; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 01:08:49 -0700 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.15//ident-1.0) id AA070696331; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 01:18:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199503120818.AA070696331@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: 755CD To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 01:18:50 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a 755CD and it works great in DOS/Windows. I am also using Linux. I can use the CD-ROM from Linux to mount software CD's but I can't figure out how to listen to audio CD's on it. I have tried a program called workbone which comes with Linux. It does "see" the CD-ROM and when I put in an audio CD and tell it to play it, the CD-ROM drive does start up. But there is no sound! Not from the builtin speakers or the headphone jack on the side. Anyone have any ideas about this? I thought maybe the CD-ROM audio only goes through the MWave card and since thats not working in Linux I can't hear anything. +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 12 04:15:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17377; Sun, 12 Mar 95 04:15:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17155; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 03:22:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 03:22:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from student.uq.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17145; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 03:22:32 -0500 Received: from student.uq.edu.au (cs322612@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by student.uq.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA14447 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 18:22:24 +1000 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 18:22:18 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: Re: poweron password? To: tp750 In-Reply-To: <199503112303.PAA08188@get.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 11 Mar 1995, jesse montrose wrote: > I have a 755cs, and I was playing around with the poweron password. I set > it, and it works great.. > I can't change or remove it though. When I go into the initial setup > screen, I can change the supervisor or drive passwords (they're both empty > tho') but the poweron password is dimmed.. > Any ideas? Sorry Jesse can't really help much here, though I accidentally fell on a crack for it. Now comes the ethical bit. I know how to defeat the poweron password. On the 360 at least. It's a major security issue I guess I should take up with big blue. However, I'm sure it's valuable information to the list to know it's not foolproof. I do however have serious qualms about posting the solution to the list, because there are too many hardware maintainers out there to whom it may be potentially lucrative. For now, I will not make the crack public. Do we have a consensus on whether it should die with me, or on the other extreme go in the FAQ B.8. Power on password - not. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 12 04:48:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18895; Sun, 12 Mar 95 04:48:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22010; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 04:35:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 04:35:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21992; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 04:35:14 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA23519 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Sun, 12 Mar 1995 04:34:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 04:34:42 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: Rohan Davidson Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: poweron password? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It's not a security issue, IBM publishes this information in the Hardware Maintenance Manual. I had just written this information up for inclusion into the FAQ and was about to send this info out to the list when I read your message. IBM does not keep this information secret, and since it's not something you can do in 5 seconds I don't think there's any real danger in giving it out. It follows in the next message. Joshua Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu On Sun, 12 Mar 1995, Rohan Davidson wrote: > On Sat, 11 Mar 1995, jesse montrose wrote: > > > I have a 755cs, and I was playing around with the poweron password. I set > > it, and it works great.. > > I can't change or remove it though. When I go into the initial setup > > screen, I can change the supervisor or drive passwords (they're both empty > > tho') but the poweron password is dimmed.. > > Any ideas? > Sorry Jesse can't really help much here, though I accidentally fell on a > crack for it. Now comes the ethical bit. > > I know how to defeat the poweron password. On the 360 at least. It's a > major security issue I guess I should take up with big blue. However, > I'm sure it's valuable information to the list to know it's not > foolproof. I do however have serious qualms about posting the solution > to the list, because there are too many hardware maintainers out there > to whom it may be potentially lucrative. > > For now, I will not make the crack public. Do we have a consensus on > whether it should die with me, or on the other extreme go in the FAQ > B.8. Power on password - not. > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 12 04:50:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19206; Sun, 12 Mar 95 04:50:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22132; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 04:37:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 04:37:40 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22120; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 04:37:38 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA23543 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Sun, 12 Mar 1995 04:37:35 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 04:37:19 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Password Override for Thinkpads Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here's how to override the poweron password as stated in the Hardware Maintenance Manual. Maybe this should be added to the FAQ. Models 750x: 1. Power off the computer. 2. Open the Keyboard and remove the batter pack and the diskette drive. 3. Lift open the small panel on the very left side of where the diskette drive was. To the left of the two backup battery connectors should be an open connector. Install a jumper on this connector. 4. Reinstall the floppy drive and battery pack and turn on the computer. Wait until the Power on self test ends. The password is now erased from memory. 5. Remove the jumper in the same manner as before. You cannot set a new password until the jumper is removed. Models 355x, 360x, 755x (except 755ce, 755cse, and 755cd): 1. Same as for the the model 750 except the small panel below the floppy drive has a screw holding it down instead of being snapped in place. Models 755ce, cd, and cse: 1. The Password override connector is located just to the left of the battery pack terminals (the big battery not the small backup and standby batteries). On the CD model you must remove the CDROM drive to access the connector. Otherwise same as for the other models. This is from the Hardware Maintenance Manual Volume 2: Thinkpad Computers, part number S82G-1502-02, 693 pages, about $18 from IBM publications. It also has the password override methods for the thinkpad 300, 500, 510, 700, 710T, and 720. Joshua Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 12 16:22:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26901; Sun, 12 Mar 95 16:22:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23935; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 16:06:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 16:06:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23921; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 16:06:11 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id QAA16194; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 16:09:35 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 16:09:34 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Rohan Davidson Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: poweron password? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 12 Mar 1995, Rohan Davidson wrote: > I know how to defeat the poweron password. On the 360 at least. It's a ... > For now, I will not make the crack public. Do we have a consensus on > whether it should die with me, or on the other extreme go in the FAQ > B.8. Power on password - not. You can die in peace - all of us with the hardware maintainance manual know how too - it's on page 285. It's not really an 'issue with IBM.' While it may seems silly to have a password that can be defeated, the fact is that it's not meant to be a major security device. Like all security devices, it acknowledges that there's nothing you can do that will 100% protect anything. It makes it difficult enough to make idle pilfering impossible. But examine the purpose of this thing: It won't keep you from having the 'pad lifted. Someone takes it, you don't have it, regardless of whether or not they can use it. It won't keep them from selling it for parts. The PCMCIA cards,HD and battery could be sold to anyone. The mainboard, case, keyboard and screen could be sold to a disreputable repair agent. These parts would probably be worth _more_ that way than the current market value of a used 'pad. More, if you consider that the whole unit is identifiable by the SN while, TTBOMK, only the mainboard and case are identified by SN if you strip the parts. It won't keep the fool who took it from tossing it in a canal when (s)he realizes it can't be booted. It won't keep someone from taking the HD out and putting it in another 'pad or a desktop machine to get the data. (The HD password is nominal protection, you should still use encryption if you really have important info on there) The only worthwhile purpose of this password is to keep people from sneaking peeks when you're away from the unit. And the procedure necessary to deactive the password is a sufficiently big pain in the ass to make that a nonissue, particularly if you lock the keyboard down. This password is no substitute for proper data protection procedures. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 12 20:29:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13379; Sun, 12 Mar 95 20:29:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07535; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 20:19:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 20:19:18 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sidney.novatel.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07525; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 20:19:15 -0500 Received: from localhost.novatel.ca by sidney.novatel.ca (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA04285; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 18:19:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199503130119.SAA04285@sidney.novatel.ca> X-Authentication-Warning: sidney.novatel.ca: Host localhost.novatel.ca didn't use HELO protocol To: Keith Moore Cc: netbsd-help@netbsd.org, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: trying to install NetBSD 1.0/i386 on an IBM ThinkPad 750 From: Herb Peyerl Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 18:19:01 -0700 Sender: hpeyerl@sidney.novatel.ca Keith Moore wrote: > System: TP750, 810 MB hard disk from Sigma Data, 20Mb memory > (4 built-in + 16Mb credit card), Dock I docking station > with wd8003e ethernet card in the isa slot in the dock. > > Symptoms: the system gets wedged for no apparent reason. This often > happens at the same place during installation. For instance, with FWIW, I installed 1.0 a while back on a 755C (I think that's what it was) and it went flawlessly and just ran... It even went down to New Orleans for a trade-show and survived a pack of sales-creatures pounding on it for a few days as part of a product demo... I didn't have a docking port. Just the box and a slip-link at 115200. YMMV. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 12 20:35:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13872; Sun, 12 Mar 95 20:35:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07891; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 20:27:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 20:27:09 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07879; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 20:27:07 -0500 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22229; Sun, 12 Mar 95 17:26:20 PST Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id RAA02952; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 17:26:18 -0800 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9503121726.ZM2950@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 17:26:17 -0800 In-Reply-To: Don Whiteside "Re: poweron password?" (Mar 12, 4:09pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: poweron password? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mar 12, 4:09pm, Don Whiteside wrote: > Subject: Re: poweron password? > On Sun, 12 Mar 1995, Rohan Davidson wrote: > > > I know how to defeat the poweron password. On the 360 at least. It's a > ... > > For now, I will not make the crack public. Do we have a consensus on ... > You can die in peace - all of us with the hardware maintainance manual > know how too - it's on page 285. ... > But examine the purpose of this thing: > > It won't keep you from having the 'pad lifted. Someone takes it, you > don't have it, regardless of whether or not they can use it. > > It won't keep them from selling it for parts. The PCMCIA cards,HD and ... >-- End of excerpt from Don Whiteside Any reasonably clever thief would be able to figure this out without the hardware manual anyway. Think about what you're doing when you install the jumper -- you're shorting the power from the Lithium backup batteries. Some modern cars have an "anti-theft" device which consists of a number which you program and have to enter on a keypad to start the ignition. Common car thieves figured out pretty quick that if you just disconnect the car battery for a couple of seconds, you clear out the number. Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 12 23:49:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24666; Sun, 12 Mar 95 23:49:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19630; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 23:41:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 23:41:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from bos1a.delphi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19620; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 23:41:10 -0500 From: Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.3-9 #7804) id <01HO2ESDW1HC90NFA6@delphi.com>; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 23:41:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 23:41:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: poweron password? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HO2ESDWB4I90NFA6@delphi.com> X-Vms-To: INTERNET"tp750@CS.UTK.EDU" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > Okay, this is a bit weird, but I'm guessing it's happened to someone else, > too :) > > I have a 755cs, and I was playing around with the poweron password. I set > it, and it works great.. > > I can't change or remove it though. When I go into the initial setup > screen, I can change the supervisor or drive passwords (they're both empty > tho') but the poweron password is dimmed.. > > Any ideas? To remove your current password, enter it how you normally would when you start the computer and put an extra space at the end. That will remove the password. You can then go into easy setup if you'd like to add a new password. Good luck. Alec From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 13 06:29:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17933; Mon, 13 Mar 95 06:29:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00260; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 06:12:29 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 06:12:28 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00210; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 06:12:21 -0500 From: Received: from goldman.gnu.ai.mit.edu by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9GNU) with SMTP id GAA27233; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 06:11:51 -0500 Received: by goldman.gnu.ai.mit.edu (15.11/4.0) id ; Mon, 13 Mar 95 06:11:39 est Date: Mon, 13 Mar 95 06:11:39 est Message-Id: <9503131111.AA20543@goldman.gnu.ai.mit.edu> To: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: trying to install NetBSD 1.0/i386 on an IBM ThinkPad 750 Cc: netbsd-help@NetBSD.ORG, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Do you have DDB configured in your kernel? Does Ctrl-Alt-Esc work? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 13 07:13:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19492; Mon, 13 Mar 95 07:13:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07863; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 06:57:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 06:57:07 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from student.uq.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07853; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 06:57:02 -0500 Received: from student.uq.edu.au (cs322612@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by student.uq.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA25518; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 20:24:00 +1000 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 20:23:54 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: Re: Password Override for Thinkpads To: Joshua Hosseinoff Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 12 Mar 1995, Joshua Hosseinoff wrote: > Here's how to override the poweron password as stated in the Hardware > Maintenance Manual. Maybe this should be added to the FAQ. > Models 750x: > 1. Power off the computer. > 2. Open the Keyboard and remove the batter pack and the diskette drive. > 3. Lift open the small panel on the very left side of where the diskette > drive was. To the left of the two backup battery connectors should be an > open connector. Install a jumper on this connector. > 4. Reinstall the floppy drive and battery pack and turn on the computer. > Wait until the Power on self test ends. The password is now erased from > memory. > 5. Remove the jumper in the same manner as before. You cannot set a new > password until the jumper is removed. Wow! That's complicated. Try this for protection: How to override password on 360 (well I've accidentally done it twice so far) (1) hibernate computer (2) remove floppy drive (3) when you wake it back up, it'll beep (expecting to find a floppy?), give an error code, then you'll be back to where you hibernated from, and not be prompted again for the password. How much do those motion detectors cost again? :) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 13 09:11:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26752; Mon, 13 Mar 95 09:11:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15832; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 08:53:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 08:52:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mfmail.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15817; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 08:52:55 -0500 From: Received: from ibm3172e.mfltd.co.uk by mfmail.mfltd.co.uk with SMTP (5.65/25-eef) id AA11242; Mon, 13 Mar 95 13:50:30 GMT Message-Id: <9503131350.AA11242@mfmail.mfltd.co.uk> Received: from NWB.RSCS by NWB.MFLTD.CO.UK (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0077; Mon, 13 Mar 95 13:52:23 GMT Date: Mon, 13 Mar 95 13:52:23 GMT To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Poweron passwords ======================================================================= From: D. Gwyn Jones Fileshare 2 development, Products Group. DGJ at NWB, GBHFFWHF at IBMMAIL, e-mail: dgj@mfltd.co.uk Subject: Re: Poweron passwords >Wow! That's complicated. Try this for protection: >How to override password on 360 (well I've accidentally done it twice so far) >(1) hibernate computer >(2) remove floppy drive >(3) when you wake it back up, it'll beep (expecting to find a floppy?), >give an error code, then you'll be back to where you hibernated from, and >not be prompted again for the password. I seem to remember my poweron password mysteriously just "disabled itself" on a couple of occasions, but it wasn't anything to do with hibernation. If I remember correctly, I got a hardware error on bootup (didn't note the number) and simply switching off and on again appeared to clear my bootup password. Regards, Gwyn. Micro Focus Ltd Tel. (44) (0)1635 565294 26 West Street Fax. (44) (0)1635 565567 Extension 5294 Newbury RG13 1JT U.K. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 13 13:17:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13355; Mon, 13 Mar 95 13:17:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07235; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 12:51:43 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 12:51:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from maple.enet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07223; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 12:51:34 -0500 From: Received: from ROVER.enet.net (slip30.enet.net [198.60.143.30]) by maple.enet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA22694; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 10:51:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 95 10:45:41 PST Subject: 750C for sale To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, sgross@enet.net X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For sale: ThinkPad 750C 12M RAM 170M hard drive IBM high speed PCMCIA modem (14.4 data fax) 2 extra batteries AC adapter/charger All manuals, receipts, etc. Balance of 3yr warranty from IBM. The unit is 14 months old and has had very little use- I am the original owner. -steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen C. Gross pilot B737 America West Airlines e-mail: sgross@enet.net Phoenix, Arizona (602) 860-8051 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 13 15:23:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21474; Mon, 13 Mar 95 15:23:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17191; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 14:55:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 14:55:34 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from expert.cc.purdue.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17176; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 14:55:32 -0500 Received: (from jollymon@localhost) by expert.cc.purdue.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id OAA13622 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 13 Mar 1995 14:55:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 14:55:35 -0500 From: Jason Message-Id: <199503131955.OAA13622@expert.cc.purdue.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: list I am receiving way too many repeat messages. I have already read over 100 of the same messages that are all identical. Please help, I don't know if any other mail is getting through. Thanks Jason Sethi jollymon@expert.cc.purdue.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 09:17:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27824; Tue, 14 Mar 95 09:17:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06235; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:05:45 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:05:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06215; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:05:41 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA29555 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:05:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:05:21 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: ADMIN: Consensus on posting announcements Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was just wondering if there was on any consensus on the list as to my continuing to post these product announcements from IBM. No one has yet complained about them, but I know some people do pay for email by the kilobyte. All these announcements are available on gopher and worldwide web from IBM and all I do is check out the gopher site every few days to see if there's anything of interest for the list. Anyone care to comment? Josh Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 09:22:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28168; Tue, 14 Mar 95 09:22:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05746; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:59:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:59:27 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05736; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:59:25 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA29228 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:59:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:59:02 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: PCMCIA Wireless Lan Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII IBM Wireless LAN Entry Product Family Announced on March 14, 1995 HARDWARE Announcement 195-082 +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | IN BRIEF . . . | | | | Competitive features: | | | | o Industry leading; competitively priced | | o Integrated radio/antenna | | o Minimal power consumption | | o Ad-hoc peer-to-peer networking | | o LAN compatibility: | | | | - NDIS/ODI device drivers | | - Transparent MAC bridge access point supporting roaming | | | | A low-cost LAN solution without cabling, plus these key | | benefits: | | | | o Complementary Artisoft network operating system with each | | adapter | | o Integrated design for mobile users | | o Access point for network scalability and user roaming | | | | Connectivity choices: | | | | o Access to wired LAN -- for example, multiple ThinkPads in | | wireless communication with the 8227 Access Point, enabling a | | wireless cell to attach to an Ethernet LAN | | | | o Peer-to-peer -- for example, several ThinkPads and a desktop | | computer in wireless communication with each other | | | | The Wireless LAN Entry family consists of: | | | | o Hardware components: | | | | - PCMCIA Type II extended RF adapter (#4285) | | - Optional externally-attached antenna | | - IBM 8227 Access Point (8227-INT or 8227-PAT) | | | | o Software offerings: | | | | - Access point bridge software | | - Installation and diagnostic routines for the adapter and | | the access point | | - Artisoft LANtastic network operating system and related | | documentation | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ Wireless LAN Entry is a local area network system that provides a low-cost, reliable connection, without cabling, to Ethernet LANs for mobile computer users. The system complements wired LANs by extending applications to mobile users and provides installation flexibility and cost savings in difficult cabling situations. The Wireless LAN Entry facilitates simple workgroup environments with an ad-hoc peer-to-peer capability. Included with the Wireless LAN Entry product family is a PCMCIA Type II adapter with a fully-integrated network interface controller (NIC) and 2.4GHz radio transceiver. Also included is the 8227 Wireless LAN Entry access point with transparent MAC bridge program for direct Ethernet attachment and SNMP management. For mobile users, Wireless LAN Entry simplifies wireless network planning with automatic roaming between 8227 access points and extends coverage with an 8227 extended range model. The 8227 extended range model supports an external gain antenna. Both models feature wall and ceiling mounting for extended cell operating sizes. An advanced technology, spread spectrum frequency-hopping radio used by the Wireless LAN Entry operates in the 2.4GHz unlicensed frequency band. The system uses CSMA protocols to provide a robust, low-cost solution and enhance transparency of the Ethernet environment. Spread spectrum provides excellent resistance to interference from other radio frequency (RF) sources and offers secure data communications. Wireless LAN Entry is bundled with a complementary network operating system. When you purchase the adapter, you will receive a single license of the popular network operating system, LANtastic(1) 6.0. You may immediately begin setting up a wireless network. If you already have an installed network operating environment, the Wireless LAN Entry may be used on that operating system. Summary of Wireless LAN Entry benefits: o Artisoft's LANtastic 6.0 single-user license included with each adapter o Low-cost mobile Ethernet LAN connectivity for existing LAN applications o NetBios, IPX, and IP protocol support o Simplified wireless network planning o Wireless transparent MAC bridge with remote program load (RPL) and SNMP management o Mobile computer support with fully integrated PCMCIA Type II extended adapter o Automatic roaming for multi-cell coverage o New workgroup applications support with peer-to-peer networking o Minimal power consumption adapter maximizing battery operating time o Around-the-clock HelpCenter(R) support (800-426-7299) Purchase Price: $1,350 (8227-INT); $1,425 (8227-PAT); $445 (#4285) Planned Availability Date: April 28, 1995 (1) Registered Trademark of Artisoft, Inc. Artisoft, Inc.'s software license agreement active. Customers not wishing to accept the terms of the Artisoft, Inc. software license agreement should return the LANtastic 6.0 diskettes to either IBM or Artisoft. (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation WIRELESS LAN ENTRY The hardcopy version of this letter carries a picture of the 8227 at this point in the letter. --------------------------------------------------------------------- If you are considering installing a local area network, the IBM Wireless LAN Entry may provide the ideal solution. Starting with the cost savings realized by not having to install wire or purchase a network operating system, the advantages are significant. Wireless LAN Entry Family Attributes o Integrated design for mobile users (low power and PCMCIA form factor) o Low-cost industry solution o Complementary Artisoft network operating system with each adapter o Access point allows network scalability and user roaming o Directly connect the 8227 access point to existing Ethernet environment o Industry standard device drivers (NDIS, ODI) supports popular NOSs o High-interference immunity against LAN and non-LAN radio sources o Connectivity to token-ring (via 8229) and Ethernet wired LANs o Compatibility with IEEE 802.3 and Ethernet o User data throughput of up to 350Kbps supported o Low-cost LAN installation and maintenance o Central management of access point software and LAN network access security through RPL support and SNMP management Reliability and Asset Protection: Reliability implies high quality. The IBM Wireless LAN Entry rarely breaks down or exhibits inconsistent performance. The ISO9000 certification ensures that a high-quality design and development process was used to develop this product. The access point architecture is key to investment protection in the wireless LAN product family. As wireless LAN adapters evolve, the access point infrastructure may remain constant and allow for adapter and software upgrades, if necessary. Open Enterprise: The Wireless LAN Entry conforms to IEEE 802.11 MAC-layer requirements -- preliminary standards released. Final 802.11 standard is not yet released. PRODUCT POSITIONING IBM has two wireless radio frequency (RF) LAN products for the personal computer market -- Wireless LAN Entry and Wireless LAN. Wireless LAN Entry is a low-cost wireless adapter. It has a cost-optimized design point and is intended for direct connection to Ethernet LANs. Wireless LAN Entry may be bridged to a token-ring environment, for example 8229. Wireless LAN Entry should be considered for small to medium wireless workgroups with fewer than 30 users per cell. Each access point can support up to 16 active users. There is no limitation to the number of users who may join a workgroup when communicating in a peer-to-peer (ad-hoc) mode. Wireless LAN Entry uses the CSMA/CA transmission protocol. Wireless LAN Entry is available in a PCMCIA Type II extended form-factory only. Wireless LAN is available in PCMCIA Type II tethered, ISA, and Micro Channel(R) adapters. Wireless LAN is a fully-featured wireless product. It features data compression for high throughput and data encryption for maximum data protection. It is ideal for all wireless networks including networks with more than 30 users. Wireless LAN uses TDMA transmission protocol. Because Wireless LAN Entry and Wireless LAN employ frequency-hopping techniques, these systems can easily co-exist in the same workgroup proximity. Wireless LAN Entry and Wireless LAN communicate if networked together through the same wired LAN environment. PUBLICATIONS The following publications are shipped with the product: Part Order Description Number Number IBM Wireless LAN Entry Installation Planning Guide (available separately) 38H4951 GA27-4983 Adapter User's Guide 8227 Installation and User's Guide TECHNICAL INFORMATION Specified Operating Environment Physical Specifications IBM Wireless LAN Entry Access Point o Width: 21.6 cm (8.5 in.) o Depth: 27.9 cm (11.0 in.) o Height: 7.6 cm (3.0 in.) o Weight: 3.0 kg (6.6 lb) IBM Wireless LAN Entry o Width: 54.0 mm (2.1 in.) o Length: 145.3 mm (5.7 in.) o Height: 10.7 mm (0.42 in.) o Height: 24.2 mm (0.95 in.) of extended portion o Weight: 0.059 kg (0.13 lb) PCMCIA Type II Adapter o Size: - PCMCIA type II extended card o Interface: - PCMCIA compatible o Compatibility: - Novell** NetWare** operating systems (ODI Device Driver) - Packet Driver for operation with TCP/IP protocols - Most standard network operating systems (NDIS Device Driver), including IBM OS/2 LAN Server, Microsoft** Workgroup for Windows+, Artisoft's LANtasic 6.0, and others o Radio characteristics: - 2.400 to 2.483GHz frequencies (U.S., may vary by country) - Data throughput rate of up to 350 Kilobits/second - Transmit power is equal to or less than 100 milliwatts o Range: - Indoor dense office: up to 200 feet (61 meters) - Indoor open office: up to 650 feet (198 meters) - Open factory/warehouse: up to 1200 feet (366 meters) Note: Range may be extended by utilizing an external gain antenna and the extended range adapter in the access point. If an access point is centralized, the referenced distances represent a diameter of a circle. Peer-to-peer distances would be half the values represented above if an access point is not used. o Licenses: Complies with FCC and DOC regulations for license-free operation in the 2.4 Gigahertz band Operating Environment: The Wireless LAN Entry PCMCIA Adapter is FCC approved to part 15, subsection 247 of the Commission's Rules using ISM band of 2400-2483.5MHz. The Wireless LAN Access Point meets FCC Class A (Business), CSPR22-A, and IOP operating criteria. o Temperature: 0(degs) to 55(degs)C (32(degs) to 131(degs)F), PCMCIA adapter o Temperature: 0(degs) to 40(degs)C (32(degs) to 104(degs)F), access point, 8227 o Relative humidity: 5% to 95% o Wet bulb: 23(degs)C (73(degs)F) o Electrical power: 110/220 V AC (Access Point) o Licenses: Complies with FCC and DOC regulations for license-free operation in the 2.4 to 2.4835GHz band Hardware Requirements: The Wireless LAN Entry is compatible with all IBM and non-IBM machines with PCMCIA Type II and III slots. The machines also require the appropriate Card and Socket Services Release 2.1 and PCMCIA controller support. The Wireless LAN Entry Adapter uses an advanced technology, frequency-hopping, spread-spectrum radio operating in the 2.4 to 2.4835GHz band. The operating band may be narrower in some countries to meet country regulations. Spread spectrum provides excellent resistance to interference from other radio frequency (RF) sources. Availability of this feature in any particular country is dependent on current country radio frequency regulations and certification for use by the country. Operation in the United States does not require a license from the FCC. The Wireless LAN Entry Adapter comes with an integrated antenna. The area of coverage may be extended beyond the coverage provided by the antenna attached to the adapter by adding Wireless LAN Entry Access Point to the network via an unshielded twisted-pair wired backbone. Each adapter or access point generates one cell of coverage area. Networks are designed to create overlapping cells to ensure consistent coverage of the area desired. The Wireless LAN Entry allows transparent seamless movement from cell-to-cell while maintaining a continuous application session. Software Requirements OS/2 2.1, or later (one of the following) o Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) 1.2.1, or later o Communications Manager/2 Version 1.1, or later o LAN Server Versions 3.0 and 4.0 OS/2 LAN Requester Note: IBM LAN Adapter and Protocol Support (LAPS) is required. LAPS comes with a number of network applications. It is also a part of IBM Network Transport Services (NTS/2) and of the Multiprotocol Transport Support (MPTS) feature of the IBM AnyNet/2 product. Novell NetWare Versions 2.1 (client) and 4.0 (client) OS/2 device drivers are scheduled to be available June 30, 1995. IBM or MS-DOS 5.0, or later (one of the following) o Artisoft LANtastic Version 6.0 o Novell NetWare Versions 3.11, or later (client) o Novell Personal NetWare o LAN Server 3.0 DOS LAN Requester o LAN Server 4.0 DOS LAN Services o IBM PC LAN Program PCLP Version 1.34 (client) o IBM LAN Support Program Version 1.38, or later o IBM Personal Communications/3270 Version 3.1, or later o IBM TCP/IP for DOS Version 2.1.1 o Microsoft Windows for WorkGroup 3.11 o Microsoft Windows 3.1 Note: IBM DOS 6.1 supports Card and Socket Services Release 2.1. RPL Support Servers supporting RPL include: o Novell NetWare Versions 3.11, or later o IBM OS/2 LAN Server Version 3, or later Adapter Driver Support: The Wireless LAN Entry provides drivers for the most popular LAN network operating systems, applications, and transport services. The drivers are provided on two 2MB diskettes. OS/2 Adapter Drivers (Card Services Release 2) o Card Services aware Network Device Interface Specification (NDIS) 2.01 Device Driver o Card Services aware ODI Device Driver DOS Adapter Drivers (Card and Socket Services Release 2 and Socket Services) o Enabler for machines that do not support Card and/or Socket Services o NDIS 2.01 Device Driver o ODI Device Driver Planning Information Cable Orders: A customer location should have a connection to an Ethernet LAN, and line voltage available to each location where an access point is to be installed. Packaging: One box Shipment Group 8227 Model INT o Wireless LAN Access Point o One Wireless LAN Entry PCMCIA adapter o Installation Guide o User's Guide (includes warranty document) o Two diskettes containing device drivers, driver enablers, adapter diagnostics, and bridge software o Mounting and adapter security brackets o Power cord 8227 Model PAT o Wireless LAN Access Point o One Wireless LAN Entry PCMCIA XR adapter o One Hemispherical Gain Antenna o Installation Guide o User's Guide (includes warranty document) o Two diskettes containing device drivers, driver enablers, adapter diagnostics, and bridge software o Mounting and adapter security brackets o Power cord IBM Wireless LAN Entry Credit Card Adapter o One Wireless LAN Entry PCMCIA adapter o One User's Guide (includes warranty document) o Two diskettes containing device drivers, driver enablers, adapter diagnostics, and ring diagnostics o Artisoft LANtastic 6.0 Network Operating System Accessories and/or Supplies: Accessory, spare, or replacement items can be ordered from cabling dealers and distributors that carry products from IBM Complementary Products. Call IBM Direct at 800-IBM-CALL (426-2255). Security, Auditability, and Control User management is responsible for evaluation, selection and implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. TERMS AND CONDITIONS This product is available for purchase under the terms of the IBM Customer Agreement (ICA). Warranty Period: o Adapter: Three years o 8227 Access Point: One year Warranty Service: Customer Carry-In Exchange (CCE) Alternative Service: IBM On-Site Exchange (IOR) Maintenance Service: IOR IBM Hourly Service Rate Classification: One IBM Warranty Service, Maintenance Service or IBM Hourly Service can be obtained by calling 800-IBM-SERV (426-7378). IBM Hourly Service is available at the applicable rate and terms, including element exchange price if applicable. Product Availability Status: New product available Field Installable Features: No Model Conversions: No Customer Setup: Yes Licensed Internal Code: Yes National Education Price (NEP): A NEP is available under the terms and conditions of the National Education Price List. CHARGES Machine Feature Part Purchase Description Type/Model Number Number Price Access Point 8227-INT 25H4211 $ 1,350 Access Point 8227-PAT 13H5895 1,425 Adapter 8550-ZZZ 4285 92G7787 445 Adapter (5-user) 8550-ZZZ 4286 38H5089 2,160 Adapter (30-user) 8550-ZZZ 4287 38H5090 12,960 Note: 30-user pack includes six 5-user's licenses for Artisoft LANtastic Alternative and Maintenance Service Charges Part Machine Number Type/Model IOR 25H4211 8227-INT $170 13H5895 8227-PAT 185 ** Company, product, or service name may be a trademark or service mark of others. + Trademark of Microsoft Corporation From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 09:32:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29140; Tue, 14 Mar 95 09:32:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05311; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:54:57 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:54:53 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05285; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:54:50 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA29011 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:54:44 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:54:27 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: PCMCIA CDPD Modem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII IBM Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD Announced on March 14, 1995 HARDWARE Announcement 195-084 +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | IN BRIEF . . . | | | | o Access to Cellular Digital Packet Data (CDPD) network | | services | | | | o Wireless wide area networking and remote LAN access over | | cellular networks | | | | o Data/fax over the cellular AMPS network | | | | o PCMCIA support for notebooks/subnotebooks | | | | o Packet data transmission as high as 19.2 Kbps | | | | o Cellular voice capabilities | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ The IBM Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD is a high-speed, PCMCIA radio modem for mobile applications including fax, e-mail, remote LAN access, or connection to Cellular Digital Packet Data network services. The combination of voice and data operation and PCMCIA packaging offers you wide-area communication, broad system platform coverage, and high-speed data communication capabilities. The IBM Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD continues IBM's tradition as a leader in PCMCIA data communication capabilities. Functions include: o Multimode Support - Cellular Digital Packet Data network services, which supports data communications up to 19.2Kbps over TCP/IP - Cellular voice communications over the Advanced Mobile Phone System (AMPS). - Data and fax communication over the AMPS cellular network up to speeds of 14.4 Kbps with TX-CEL** enhanced cellular throughput technology. The ability to support both CDPD and cellular data via AMPS provides the broadest wireless network coverage possible. o PCMCIA Form Factor -- Support for PCMCIA Type II slots and release 2.01 of the PCMCIA Specifications is provided. Device drivers that operate with PCMCIA card and socket services are included. o Installation Flexibility -- The IBM Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD can be installed internally or externally depending on the system platform. o Advanced Power Management -- For most IBM and non-IBM portable systems, a battery-assist option allows the radio to remain powered on without drawing current from the system battery. o Software Support -- Includes software applications that provide maximum functionality "right out of the box." These include: - IBM Wireless Modem Manager - Quicklink Mobile Fax/Modem software - IBM TCP/IP program elements The IBM Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD supports DOS, Windows+ and native OS/2(R) 3.0. OS/2 support will be available on September 29, 1995, through a software upgrade. Description Purchase Price Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD with Battery Assist Option $1095 Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD with Tray Option 995 Planned Availability Date: June 30, 1995 ** Company, product, or service name may be a trademark or service mark of others. + Trademark of Microsoft Corporation (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation DESCRIPTION PCMCIA Data Communication Capabilities o Multimode support CDPD network services is an emerging wireless data technology being deployed over existing cellular AMPS networks by leading cellular service providers. These cellular service providers include GTE**, McCaw Cellular, AirTouch** Communications, Bell-Atlantic Mobile, Ameritech**, BellSouth, and Sprint** Cellular. o Installation Flexibility -- The IBM Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD can be installed internally in the ThinkPad(R) on a number of models including the Thinkpad 755CD, 755CE, and 755CSE. This is accomplished through a specially designed tray that replaces the floppy disk drive (FDD). For all other mobile platforms (IBM and non-IBM), the IBM Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD PCMCIA Type II modem can be installed in the PCMCIA slot with an external cable to the RF Deck. The RF Deck can be attached to the back of the system cover with the provided mounting plate. o Advanced Power Management -- For the Thinkpad 755CD, 755CE, and 755CSE, integration into the Thinkpad's FDD bay allows the IBM Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD to run off of the system's battery. The IBM Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD can preserve battery power through a number of sleep modes that reduce battery drainage when the IBM Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD is not in use. o Software Support -- The IBM Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD includes software applications that provide maximum functionality "right out of the box." These include: - IBM Wireless Modem Manager lets you switch between the various modes of the product (CDPD, Cellular Amps Voice, Cellular AMPs data). It provides dialing capabilities for the AMPS voice function and connection management to CDPD network services. IBM Wireless Modem Manager allows user setup, configuration, and installation. - Quicklink Mobile Fax/Modem software lets you send and receive faxes or send and receive data via the Cellular AMPS data mode. Quicklink Mobile also aids in the configuration of the PCMCIA slot. - IBM TCP/IP program elements (subset of IBM TCP/IP) are provided to support CDPD network connection. In addition, FTP, SMTP, and PING are provided. Wireless Data Communication The Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD lets you send and receive data to and from corporate networks by using the cellular network. You can utilize the Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD to send data in one of two ways. In CDPD mode, you can register onto the CDPD network, which is an IP network similar to the Internet. In CDPD mode, you can access applications defined to the CDPD network, or can send information back through gateways to the Internet or other value-added networks (VANs). The Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD also runs in circuit-switched cellular mode that lets you dial into modems, modem pools, or fax machines for asynchronous communication or facsimile. Circuit-switched cellular mode is similar to landline communication to a modem with the difference being that the cellular network is utilized as opposed to the Public Switched Telephone Network (PSTN). Forward-error-correction protocols are utilized in circuit-switched cellular mode to obtain speeds up to 14.4Kbps. Voice Communication The Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD also lets you make cellular voice calls over the AMPS cellular network. An earphone is shipped with the product to utilize the voice functions. You can dial a phone number through the Wireless Modem Manager software GUI. IBM Wireless Modem Manager The Wireless Modem Manager manages the various modes of the Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD. It lets you switch between voice, circuit-switched cellular, and CDPD communication. It provides the following features and functions: o Voice Cellular support (for example, dialing and phone book) o Communication status indicators (for example, signal strength) o Connection services for the CDPD network o Address configuration and security PRODUCT POSITIONING The Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD is a high-speed, multifunctional PCMCIA modem for IBM and non-IBM portable systems. It complements users of IBM and non-IBM portable systems by supporting wireless wide-area connectivity for applications including fax, two-way messaging, remote LAN access, terminal emulation, and connection to CDPD network services. The strengths of the IBM Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD are: o Wide-Area Communication The Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD provides wireless data communication support in most geographical locations. If you are in a geographical location that does not have CDPD support, or will have CDPD support in the near future, the multimode functionality of the Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD allows you to migrate from AMPS cellular to CDPD when it is available. - CDPD Services -- low-cost packet data transmission capability - Cellular AMPS Support -- for voice and data communications - PCMCIA form factor -- for broad platform compatibility o Packaging Flexibility Can be packaged to work with most system platforms and is available in the following configurations: - Battery Assist Option -- for IBM and non-IBM portables - 755 FDD Tray option -- for integration into certain IBM Thinkpad models o Solution-Oriented Software included to provide complete solution - Wireless Modem Manager included for adapter mode management, AMPS phone dialing, and connection to CDPD services - QuickLink Mobile Fax/Modem software included for fax and data transfer capabilities - IBM TCP/IP software included for connection to CDPD services Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD Product Positioning .-----------+----------+----------+----------+----------. | | | Wireless | | ThinkPad | | | Wireless | Modem | Wireless | Mobile | | | Modem | for | Modem | Communi- | | | for | Cellular | for | cations | | | ARDIS | CDPD | Mobitex | Module | |-----------+----------+----------+----------+----------| | | | V.32bis, | | V.32, | | | | TXCEL | MASC | MNP-5 | | | MDC 4800 | and | and | and | | Protocols | & RD-LAP | CDPD 1.0 | AT | CDPD | |-----------+----------+----------+----------+----------| | Signaling | 4.8 | 14.4 | | 14.4 | | Rates | and | and | | and | | (kbps) | 19.2 | 19.2 | 19.2 | 19.2 | |-----------+----------+----------+----------+----------| | Duplex | Half | Full | Half | Full | |-----------+----------+----------+----------+----------| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | PCMCIA | PCMCIA | | | | Form | II with | II with | PCMCIA | | | Factor | RF Deck | RF Deck | Type III | Custom | |-----------+----------+----------+----------+----------| | Internal | | | | | | Radio | | | | | | Design | 5 V | 5 V | 7.2 V | 7.2 V | |-----------+----------+----------+----------+----------| | Cellular | | | | | | Voice | No | Yes | No | Yes | |-----------+----------+----------+----------+----------| | Land | | | | | | Line | | | | | | Modem | No | No | No | Yes | '-----------+----------+----------+----------+----------' This device has not been approved by the Federal Communications Commission. This device is not, and may not be offered, for sale or lease, or sold or leased until the approval of the FCC has been obtained. PUBLICATIONS The following publication is shipped with the product. Additional copies are available immediately. Part Title Number IBM Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD User's Guide 04H7372 The following publication will be available by May, 1995. To order, contact your IBM representative. Part Title Number IBM Wireless Modems Technical Reference Manual SC30-3692 Softcopy versions of the publications will be available from the IBM Networking Systems FTP server. TECHNICAL INFORMATION Specified Operating Environment Physical Specifications: Type II PCMCIA modem o Width: 54 mm o Depth: 85.6 mm o Height: 5 mm o Weight: 30 g RF Deck -- o Width: 54 mm o Depth: 89.6 mm o Height: 10.5 mm o Weight: 50 g Environmental o Operating temperature range: -20(degs)to 50(degs) C o Relative humidity: 95% o Storage temperature range: -10(degs)to 60(degs) C Power o 5.0 VDC from system unit (across PCMCIA) o Advanced power management attributes - Radio power down - DSP power down - Microprocessor power down - CDPD sleep o AMPS voice mode average power -- 800 mA o AMPS data mode average power -- 800 mA o CDPD listen mode average power -- 300 mA o Sleep mode average power -- 80 mA Radio Characteristics o Operating range: 824Mhz to 849Mhz and 860Mhz to 894Mhz o Full duplex o 0.6W transmit power: continuously variable from 1 mw to 0.6W o Receiver sensitivity: -116 dBm o Antenna: 1/4-wave helical monopole, 1.5 dBi gain, omnidirectional o Antenna connector: Mini SMB coax connector (180(degs) rotation) Hardware Requirements: The Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD operates on a AMPS Cellular radio network. The operating range is 824Mhz to 849Mhz and 860Mhz to 894Mhz. Actual operating ranges may vary in some countries. Availability of this product is dependent on current country cellular networks and certification for use by the country. Activation Issues Depending on which modes the product needs to support (voice/circuit- switched/CDPD), activation will be required to utilize the cellular network. If the voice and circuit-switched data modes are required, the local service provider will have to activate the Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD electronic serial number (ESN) and assign a phone number. If CDPD mode is required the local service provider will have to activate the Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD Electronic ID (EID) and assign a CDPD address. Configuration Issues The Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD can be ordered for one of two configurations, depending on the system platform that is being utilized: o Thinkpad Tray Option (25H4775, 25H4803, 25H4804) allows integration of the Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD into a Thinkpad by replacing the floppy disk drive bay. This is supported for the following Thinkpad models: - Thinkpad 755CD, 755CE, and 755CSE o The Battery Assist Option (04H7122, 25H4785, 25H4786) allows operation for any system with a Type II or Type III PCMCIA 2.1 slot. IBM will continue to test the modem in laptops. The latest list of laptops is available by calling 800-772-2227 and pressing 3 for the automated fax system. Software Requirements: The Wireless Modem Manager, provided as part of the base ship group, allows utilization and management of the Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD. The Wireless Modem Manager provides the following functions: o Switching between the various modes of the Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD o Installation and configuration o Dialing for Cellular Amps Voice/Cellular Amps Data o Connection to CDPD network services Included with the Wireless Modem Manager is Quicklink Mobile Fax/Modem software. Quicklink Mobile provides the following functions: o PCMCIA configuration o Fax o Terminal emulation (ANSI, VT100, VT200) o File transfer (ZMODEM, YMODEM, KERMIT) Also included with Wireless Modem Manager are program elements of the IBM TCP/IP program product. These elements include: o IBM TCP/IP stack o FTP o Ping o SMTP CDPD Mode o Cellular Digital Packet Data, Release 1.0. Circuit-Switched Mode o Data -- V.32bis, V.32, V.23, V.22 bis, V.22 A/B, V.21, Bell 212A and 103 o Error Control -- V.42, MNP 2-4, MNP 10, TX-CEL o Data Compression -- V.42bis, MNP 5 o Fax Modem -- V.17, V.29, V.27ter, V.21 ch2 o Fax Protocol -- T.4, T.30 EIA/TIA 578 Class1, EIA/TIA Class2 Other Software requirements o OS/2 Version 3.0 o Windows+ Version 3.1 o Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) for OS/2 o Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) Version 1.2.1 for DOS/Windows o IBM DOS Version 5.2 -- 6.3 o Microsoft** DOS Version 5.02 -- 6.2 Note: IBM DOS 6.1 supports Card and Socket Services Release 2.1 Adapter Driver Support -- PC Card Utilities and Device Drivers: The Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD must be recognized by a PC Card Utility. Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD has been tested with IBM Card and Socket Services, Easyplay, and PC Card Director. Point enablers are provided for machines that do not support Card and Socket services. o PC Card Utilities - DOS Socket Services Driver, Version 1.21, and later - PCMCIA Socket Services Release 2.00, and later - DOS Card Services Driver, Version 1.18, and later - PCMCIA Card Services Release 2.00, and later - DOS PCMCIA Resource Map Utility Device Driver, Version 1.05, and later - PC Card Power Management Driver, Version 2.07, and later - DOS PCMCIA PC Card Auto Configurator, Version 1.06, and later - Easyplaying/PC Card Director for Windows 1.01, and later - Easyplaying/PC Card Director for DOS 1.02, and later o Device Drivers -- NDIS 2.01 (provided by Wireless Modem Manager ) o Hardware diagnostics and microcode loader - IBM DOS 5.2 to IBM DOS 6.3 - Microsoft DOS 5.02 to MS DOS 6.2 Note: Updated versions of microcode are available from the IBM Bulletin Board at 919-517-0001 Limitations: The user is limited to one Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD per machine at any given time. Each Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD can support up to two number assignment modules, two network equipment identifiers, one electronic serial number, and one electronic identifier. You should not use this product in airplanes or near blasting areas. Planning Information Customer Responsibilities: The Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD transmits and receives data over the cellular network, in either circuit-switched or CDPD mode. Local cellular service providers should be contacted to determine if these modes are available in the location of choice. Access to your enterprise or LAN network may be provided through modem pools or gateways that the local service providers have installed on the cellular network. Local cellular service providers should be contacted to see if these gateways have been installed. Cable Orders: Cables will be supplied as part of the base shipment group of the product. For part numbers 04H7122, 25H4785, and 25H4786, a cable will be supplied to connect the modem to the RF deck. For part numbers 25H4755, 25H4803, and 25H4804, a ribbon cable to connect the RF deck to the modem for integration into the FDD tray will be supplied Problem Determination: Problem determination for the Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD can be performed in different ways. The Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD has a set of LEDs that can indicate potential problems with wireless communication. o LED #1 POST Test This LED will be on "green" if there is power to the adapter and it has passed the Power On Self Test (POST) o LED #2 Network Coverage This LED will be on "green" if the adapter is within range of a mobile base station and is receiving information from the control channel. o LED #3 Data Transmission This LED will on "green" if the adapter is transmitting data packets Through the Wireless Modem Manager, there are a number of software status indicators that are displayed to the user. These status indicators alert the user to the following: o Signal strength -- indicates the strength of the incoming signal from the cellular base site. o Battery level -- indicates the level of battery power remaining to power the radio deck. Viable for External Battery Assist option only. Packaging: One box Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD o Battery Assist Option - Cellular RF deck - Type II PCMCIA Cellular/CDPD modem - Connector cable - Antenna - Miniature earpiece/microphone - Battery Assist sleave o Battery Assist Option - Multipack of 5 - 5 Cellular RF decks - 5 Type II PCMCIA Cellular/CDPD modems - 5 Connector cables - 5 Antennas - 5 Miniature earpiece/microphone - 5 Battery Assist sleeves o Battery Assist Option - Multipack of 30 - 30 Cellular RF decks - 30 Type II PCMCIA Cellular/CDPD modems - 30 Connector cables - 30 Antennas - 30 Miniature earpiece/microphone - 30 Battery Assist sleeves o Thinkpad Tray Option - Cellular RF deck - Type II PCMCIA Cellular/CDPD modem - Internal ribbon connector cable - Antenna - Miniature earpiece/microphone - FDD Tray o Thinkpad Tray Option - Multipack of 5 - 5 Cellular RF decks - 5 Type II PCMCIA Cellular/CDPD modems - 5 Internal ribbon connector cables - 5 Antennas - 5 Miniature earpieces/microphones - 5 FDD Trays o Thinkpad Tray Option - Multipack of 30 - 30 Cellular RF deck - 30 Type II PCMCIA Cellular/CDPD modems - 30 Internal ribbon connector cables - 30 Antennas - 30 Miniature earpieces/microphones - 30 FDD Trays o Software - Installation Aid and Diagnostics - QuickLink Mobile Data/Fax Software - IBM Wireless Modem Manager - IBM TCP/IP (Stack Only) o Documentation - Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD User's Guide Security, Auditability, and Control User management is responsible for evaluation, selection, and implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. TERMS AND CONDITIONS MES Discount Applicable: No Field Installable Feature: Yes Warranty Period: One Year Customer Set up: Yes All other terms and conditions are the same as those applicable to the IBM machines in which the feature is installed. National Education Price (NEP): A NEP is available under the terms and conditions of the NEP List. CHARGES Feature Part Purchase Description Number Number Price 8550-ZZZ Wireless Modem for cellular/CDPD with Battery Assist Option 7567 04H7122 $ 1,095 Wireless Modem for cellular/CDPD with Tray Option 7569 25H4775 995 Feature Part Purchase Description Number Number Price Wireless Modem for cellular/CDPD with Battery Assist Option Multipack of 5 4433 25H4785 $ 5,310 Wireless Modem for cellular/CDPD with Tray Option Multipack of 5 4452 25H4803 4,825 Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD with Battery Assist Option Multipack of 30 4450 25H4786 31,860 Wireless Modem for Cellular/CDPD with Tray Option Multipack of 30 4453 25H4804 28,950 ** Company, product, or service name may be a trademark or service mark of others. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 09:34:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00016; Tue, 14 Mar 95 09:34:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05565; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:56:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:56:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05553; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:55:59 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA29074 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:55:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:55:37 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: PCMCIA Mobitex Cellular Modem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII IBM Wireless Modem for Mobitex Announced on March 14, 1995 HARDWARE Announcement 195-083 +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | IN BRIEF . . . | | | | o Delivers wireless wide area networking (WAN) over Mobitex | | network | | | | o Offers two-way messaging capability | | | | o Provides improvement over pagers and landline phones | | | | o Delivers wireless data connectivity for notebook PCs | | | | o Offers wireless data transmission as high as 8 kbps | | | | o Provides connectivity to IBM and non-IBM computers that | | adhere to the PCMCIA industry standard | | | | o Ships with RAD-I/O and RAD AT from Research in Motion | | | | o Ships with ZAP-it software and one month service from DTS | | Wireless | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ The IBM Wireless Modem for Mobitex is a compact, high-speed radio modem transceiver for mobile data communications services through the Mobitex network. The IBM Wireless Modem for Mobitex enables mobile workers to access client/server applications, two way messaging services, and remote e-mail and fax services. The compact PCMCIA Type III adapter can be installed internally in the ThinkPad(R) or any PCMCIA-enabled mobile computer. The Wireless Modem for Mobitex should be of interest to the following industries: o Finance o Distribution o Telecommunications and Media o Public Safety The Wireless Modem for Mobitex supports the MASC protocol at a data transfer rate of 8 kbps. Microcode is included to permanently replace the MASC microcode with AT(R) microcode. Software: The Wireless Modem for Mobitex ships with two RADical wireless tools from Research in Motion (RIM), RAD-I/O and RAD AT**, and ZAP-it** wireless messaging software and service from Data Transmission Services, Inc. (DTS). DTS provides 30 free days of service and up to $50 of usage charges in addition to the ZAP-it software. DTS is a long-distance service provider for RAM Mobile Data, which provides commercial radio packet data networks. Purchase Price: $795 Planned Availability Date: April 28, 1995 (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation ** Company, product, or service name may be a trademark or service mark of others. DESCRIPTION Anytime Anyplace Connectivity Mobile computer users now have increased productivity, as they can communicate wirelessly over the Mobitex network nationwide. This two-way messaging capability is an improvement over pagers and landline phones. Pagers require a user to respond to a message by finding a landline phone or using a cellular phone to answer a question or respond to a page. If the requestor needs data, the mobile user has to connect his computer through a modem to a phone connection to send the data. Now a user can respond with the appropriate data directly to the requestor. Application Software Shipped With Wireless Modem for Mobitex RADical wireless tools from Research in Motion (RIM), RAD-I/O and RAD AT, are a Microsoft** Windows+-based interface to Mobitex wireless network with status information and tools for file transfer and AT emulation. RAD-I/O features: o Operates with all MASC-compatible radio modems o Provides status display window with radio coverage, battery status and receive/transmit o Supports file transfer RAD-AT features: o Allows wireless communication programs to use a standard AT interface o Implements a superset of the AT interface with Mobitex-specific extensions o Operates with all MASC-compatible modems Software, Service, and Free Airtime (30 Days) ZAP-it wireless massaging lets mobile professionals send and receive electronic messages from their portable computer 24 hours a day, without the use of phone lines. ZAP-it features: o Allows users to prepare and send short messages, word processing documents, file attachments, faxes, and page messages wirelessly o Allows user to read, store, delete, and reply to messages easily o Offers a cost-effective alternative to other nationwide paging methods. (A subscription is required to continue service after the 30-day trial period.) ZAP-it e-mail: Users can reach anyone, including ZAP-it users with an Internet address. o Send messages wirelessly to users on any e-mail system connected to a worldwide Internet, such as Prodigy**, America Online, CompuServe, AT&T Mail, MCI Mail, and private e-mail systems, such as OfficeVision(R). ZAP-it Fax: With ZAP-it, users can fax from anywhere in the RAM coverage area. o Fax messages to machines anywhere in the world and get delivery confirmation. o Store frequently faxed documents, such as sales brochures, price sheets, order forms, and catalogs, for electronic faxing at a moment's notice. Open Standards The Wireless Modem for Mobitex conforms to Mobitex Interface Specification. PRODUCT POSITIONING IBM Wireless Modem for Mobitex Product Positioning .-----------+---------+---------+--------+----------------. | | | Wireless| | | | | Wireless| Modem |Wireless| ThinkPad | | | Modem | for | Modem | Mobile | | | for | Cellular| for | Communications | | | ARDIS | /CDPD | Mobitex| Module | |-----------+---------+---------+--------+----------------| | | | V.31bis,| | | | | MDC 4800| TXCEL, | | V.32, | | | and | and CDPD|MASC and| MNP- 5 | | Protocols | RD-LAP | 1.0 | AT | and CDPD | |-----------+---------+---------+--------+----------------| | Signaling | | | | | | Rates | 4.8 and | 14.4 | | | | (kbps) | 19.2 | and 19.2| 8 | 19.2 | |-----------+---------+---------+--------+----------------| | Duplex | Half | Full | Half | Full | |-----------+---------+---------+--------+----------------| | | PCMCIA | PCMCIA | | | | Form | II with | II with | PCMCIA | | | Factor | RF Deck | RF Deck |Type III| Custom | |-----------+---------+---------+--------+----------------| | Internal | | | | | | Radio | | | | | | Design | 5 Volts| 5 Volts| 5 Volts| 7.2 Volts | |-----------+---------+---------+--------+----------------| | Cellular | | | | | | Voice | No | Yes | No | Yes | |-----------+---------+---------+--------+----------------| | Land | | | | | | Line | | | | | | Modem | No | No | No | Yes | |-----------+---------+---------+--------+----------------| | Ethernet | No | No | Yes | No | '-----------+---------+---------+--------+----------------' PUBLICATIONS The following publications are shipped with the product. Order Part Title Number Number Product Description and Guide to Operations SH11-3075 29H3900 AT Commands Manual SH11-3076 29H3901 The MASC Protocol Programmer's Reference (GH11-3077) is also available. To order, contact your IBM representative. TECHNICAL INFORMATION Specified Operating Environment Physical Specifications: o Digital Modem/RF Deck: - Width: 54 mm - Depth: 85.6 mm - Height: 10.5 mm - Weight: 57 g o Battery Assist: - Width: 48 mm - Depth: 33 mm - Height: 38 mm - Weight: 68 g Environmental: o Operating Temperature: -25(degs)C to 60(degs)C o Storage Temperature: -40(degs)C to 70(degs)C o Relative Humidity Operating/Storage: 5% to 95% Power: o 5.0 VDC from System Unit (across PCMCIA) o Power Saving Modes - Transmit Mode Average Power: 80 mA - Receive Mode Average Power: 80 mA - Stand-by Mode Average Power: 20 mA - OFF Mode Average Power (Charging Battery): 8 mA Radio Characteristics: o Operating Range: - Tx: 896 MHz -- 902 MHz - Rx: 935 MHz -- 941 MHz o Half-Duplex o 2 W Transmit Power: Controlled in 5 steps (0, -3, -5.2, -9, -15 dB) o Receiver Sensitivity: -113 dBm Hardware Requirements: IBM has tested and supports a number of portable computers, including selected IBM ThinkPads and non-IBM notebooks. For a current list of tested PC notebooks, call 800-772-2227. Software Requirements: Wireless Modem for Mobitex must be recognized by a PC card utility. Wireless Modem for Mobitex has been tested with Easyplay and PC card director products. This includes DOS and DOS/Windows. These products can be installed from the ThinkPad(R) Utilities Diskette 1.31, or later. The ThinkPad utility diskette was packaged with your 755 CE, CD, or CSE. For other ThinkPads you can request this from your BBS or IBM Representative. o ThinkPad Models and Diskettes Required - TP 750: ThinkPad Utility Diskette 1.31, or later - TP 755CE: PCMCIA Features Diskette 1.00 - TP 755CD: PCMCIA Features Diskette 1.00 o IBM PC Card Utilities - IBM DOS Socket Services Driver, Version 1.21, or later - PCMCIA Socket Services Release 2.00, or later - IBM DOS Card Services Driver, Version 1.18, or later - PCMCIA Card Services Release 2.00, or later - IBM DOS PCMCIA Resource Map Utility Device Driver, Version 1.05, or later - PC Card Power Management Driver Version 2.07, or later - IBM DOS PCMCIA PC Card Auto Configurator Version 1.06, or later - Easyplaying/PC Card Director for Windows 1.01, or later - Easyplaying/PC Card Director for DOS 1.02, or later o Hardware Diagnostics and Protocol Loader - IBM DOS 5.2 to IBM DOS 6.3 - MS DOS 5.02 to MS DOS 6.2 Wireless Modem for Mobitex ships with a microcode loading utility that you can use to update the adapter, as new features are added to the network. Updated versions of the microcode are available on the IBM PC Support Bulletin Board System (BBS) at (919)-517-0001. This utility can also be used to change the protocol in the adapter to AT or MASC. o Mobitex Support Panel (Version 1.0) under Windows 3.1 o End-User Applications Tested - RAD AT/WIN (Version 1.02) - RAD-I/O/WIN (Version 1.02) - ZAP-it/WIN (Version 1.2) - cc:Mail Mobile/WIN (Version 2.03) - RadioPAC/WIN (Field Sales Demo) - Passport/WIN (Version 1 r2.1 level H) Compatibility: The IBM Wireless Modem for Mobitex is interoperable with all systems that have at least a Type III PCMCIA slot. All IBM and non-IBM platforms that have at least a Type III PCMCIA slot are supported if they have an acceptable noise floor and the PC card utility that recognizes the modem. Limitations: The user should not use the product in airplanes nor near blasting areas. Planning Information Customer Responsibilities: o Customers must arrange airtime billing with the network provider. o Customers must agree to use DTS as their long-distance carrier between the RAM regional networks. o Vertical applications require client and server software and a landline connection between the customer premise and the Mobitex network for vertical applications. Cable Orders: No cables required Problem Determination: Product Description and Guide to Operations includes a troubleshooting and diagnosis section. Packaging: One box Shipment Group o IBM PCMCIA Wireless Modem for Mobitex - Support Software Diskette - IBM Pubs Bundle -- Product Description and Guide to Operations -- AT Commands Manual - RIM Bundle -- RAD-I/O, RAD AT, and Peer-to-Peer Diskette -- RAD-I/O, RAD AT, and Peer-to-Peer Publication -- RAM Coverage Guide - DTS Wireless Bundle -- ZAP-it Diskette -- ZAP-it User's Guide - DTS Order Confirmation Form - RAM Mobile Data Service Agreement - Wireless modem with battery, antenna, screws and a screwdriver Security, Auditability, and Control User management is responsible for evaluation, selection, and implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. TERMS AND CONDITIONS Feature Section MES Discount Applicable: No Field Installable Feature: Yes Warranty Period: One year Customer Setup: Yes All other terms and conditions are the same as those applicable to the IBM machines in which the feature is installed. CHARGES Feature Machine Purchase Description Number Type/Model Price Wireless Modem for Mobitex 5949 8550-ZZZ $795 ** Company, product, or service name may be a trademark or service mark of others. + Trademark of Microsoft Corporation From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 10:41:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13206; Tue, 14 Mar 95 10:41:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12220; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 10:18:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 10:18:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12209; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 10:18:35 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0roYMy-0004u8C; Tue, 14 Mar 95 09:18 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0roYMx-0002nbC; Tue, 14 Mar 95 09:18 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0roYMv-0002wvC; Tue, 14 Mar 95 09:18 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: ADMIN: Consensus on posting announcements To: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu (Joshua Hosseinoff) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:18:45 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: from "Joshua Hosseinoff" at Mar 14, 95 09:05:21 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I was just wondering if there was on any consensus on the list as to my > continuing to post these product announcements from IBM. No one has yet > complained about them, but I know some people do pay for email by the > kilobyte. All these announcements are available on gopher and worldwide > web from IBM and all I do is check out the gopher site every few days to > see if there's anything of interest for the list. > > Anyone care to comment? I don't have time to look for these announcements and I enjoy reading them. Thus please DO continue to post them to this list. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 11:35:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20900; Tue, 14 Mar 95 11:35:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17261; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:14:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:14:10 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from stortek.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17251; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:14:08 -0500 Received: from deathstar.stortek.com ([129.80.18.204]) by stortek.com with SMTP id AA09683 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:13:34 -0700 Received: from endor.stortek.com by deathstar.stortek.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-SESA-Main-0001) id AA20865; Tue, 14 Mar 95 09:13:33 MST Date: Tue, 14 Mar 95 09:13:33 MST From: ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) Message-Id: <9503141613.AA20865@deathstar.stortek.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: ADMIN: Consensus on posting announcements > I don't have time to look for these announcements and I enjoy reading > them. Thus please DO continue to post them to this list. Ditto... Also... Could whoever acts as admin for the list see if a "Reply-To:" tag can be added so most mailers will automatically use the TP750 address instead of the post they're replying to... Thanks... Lee Stewart From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 12:04:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25840; Tue, 14 Mar 95 12:04:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20361; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:46:54 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:46:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20341; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:46:49 -0500 Received: from girtab.usc.edu (whittle@girtab.usc.edu [128.125.253.145]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA22411; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:46:39 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by girtab.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA12424; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:46:34 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199503141646.IAA12424@girtab.usc.edu> Subject: Re: ADMIN: Consensus on posting announcements To: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu (Joshua Hosseinoff) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 08:46:33 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Joshua Hosseinoff" at Mar 14, 95 09:05:21 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I was just wondering if there was on any consensus on the list as to my > continuing to post these product announcements from IBM. No one has yet > complained about them, but I know some people do pay for email by the Clearly, I'm not interested in seeing many of them, but there *have* been a few that I was very interested in. My opinion is to carry on! > kilobyte. All these announcements are available on gopher and worldwide > web from IBM and all I do is check out the gopher site every few days to > see if there's anything of interest for the list. As far as I'm concerned, better that you do it than me. ;) ----- _____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | I don't recycle. | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | I'm a consumer; | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | dammit-- | right, they should be yours too.) | I consume! | ----------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 12:08:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26685; Tue, 14 Mar 95 12:08:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19412; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:40:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:40:15 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from america.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19395; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:40:12 -0500 Received: from tactical.ppp.america.com by america.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03604; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:39:18 +0500 Message-Id: <9503141639.AA03604@america.com> X-Sender: richh@america.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:39:30 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: richh@america.com (Richard Holtz) Subject: IBM Announcements A P U B L I C T H A N K Y O U T O Joshua Hosseinoff K E E P U P T H E G O O D W O R K Rich Holtz ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tel:904 676 2725 Fax:904 676 0245 Car:904 679 4858 Portable:904 679 4851 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 12:16:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27149; Tue, 14 Mar 95 12:16:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21303; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:56:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:56:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21287; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:55:58 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id LAA09336; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:52:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199503141652.LAA09336@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: Joshua Hosseinoff Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: ADMIN: Consensus on posting announcements In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:05:21 EST." Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 11:52:38 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > I was just wondering if there was on any consensus on the list as to my > continuing to post these product announcements from IBM. No one has yet > complained about them, but I know some people do pay for email by the > kilobyte. All these announcements are available on gopher and worldwide > web from IBM and all I do is check out the gopher site every few days to > see if there's anything of interest for the list. The announcements do get a little long sometimes. If you were willing to edit them down a bit (maybe just describe the product and list the new features -- or does IBM provide brief versions?), and post the URLs of the full text versions, that would be great. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 13:05:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05166; Tue, 14 Mar 95 13:05:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25357; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:49:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:49:35 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25340; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:49:31 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id MAA28819; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:53:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:53:05 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Keith Moore Cc: Joshua Hosseinoff , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: ADMIN: Consensus on posting announcements In-Reply-To: <199503141652.LAA09336@wilma.cs.utk.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 14 Mar 1995, Keith Moore wrote: > > I was just wondering if there was on any consensus on the list as to my > > continuing to post these product announcements from IBM. No one has yet > > The announcements do get a little long sometimes. If you were willing > to edit them down a bit (maybe just describe the product and list the > new features -- or does IBM provide brief versions?), and post the > URLs of the full text versions, that would be great. I think a better idea would be to just include the first 50 lines and the URL. I'm sure that Joseph has better things to do that edit for content and what he considers a proper synopsis might be too long or too short for others. Or an announcements sub-list? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 13:06:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05172; Tue, 14 Mar 95 13:06:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25288; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:48:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:48:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25278; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:48:12 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id MAA28766; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:51:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:51:23 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Announcements In-Reply-To: <9503141639.AA03604@america.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 14 Mar 1995, Richard Holtz wrote: > A P U B L I C T H A N K Y O U T O Joshua Hosseinoff > > > K E E P U P T H E G O O D W O R K What he said. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 13:17:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08080; Tue, 14 Mar 95 13:17:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26493; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 13:07:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 13:07:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26483; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 13:07:37 -0500 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA21782; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:07:04 -0600 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA124854; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:07:07 -0600 From: rol@uhc.com (Roleigh Martin) Message-Id: <9503141807.AA124854@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: IBM Announcements (fwd) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (IBM 750 newsgroup) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:07:07 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forwarded message: > A P U B L I C T H A N K Y O U T O Joshua Hosseinoff > > > K E E P U P T H E G O O D W O R K > DITTO! -- Roleigh Martin, Rt. MN06-6130 Opinions are mine not UHC | UHC, Advanced Technology AT&T/vmail: (612) 945-6529| 9705 Data Park Drive FAX: (612) 945-6502| Minnetonka, MN 55343 Email: rol@lochness.uhc.com| ** B'days are good for health ** Statistics show that people with most b'days live the longest When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 16:22:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12673; Tue, 14 Mar 95 16:22:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09117; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 16:14:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 16:14:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from FOSTERS.ROC.SERVTECH.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09095; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 16:14:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 95 09:10:28 EST Message-Id: <9503130910.AA21012@FOSTERS.ROC.SERVTECH.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Randall King" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Hard Drive password X-Mailer: Hello all, How about this. What if you have a password set up on the Hard Drive itself? Does anyone know how to get that off if you don't have the password? Utilize the sledge hammer method? :) Randall From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 16:44:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15972; Tue, 14 Mar 95 16:44:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11007; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 16:34:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 16:34:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10997; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 16:34:52 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA20277; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 15:34:49 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 16:35:30 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Message-Id: <59731.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: ADMIN: Consensus on posting announcements In message Tue, 14 Mar 95 09:13:33 MST, ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) writes: > Also... Could whoever acts as admin for the list see if a "Reply-To:" > tag can be added so most mailers will automatically use the TP750 > address instead of the post they're replying to... Thanks... You don't want to do this. If Reply-to is set to the mailing list, and a message to an address bounces or gets an automated reply, it goes back to the mailing list, which sends it out again, which sends it back to the mailing list again, ad infinitium. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 17:53:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00014; Tue, 14 Mar 95 17:53:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15491; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 17:37:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 17:37:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mthood.ohsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15479; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 17:37:01 -0500 Received: by mthood.ohsu.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI.AUTO) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id OAA06941; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 14:36:09 -0800 From: "Ronald Sakaguchi" Message-Id: <9503141436.ZM6939@mthood.ohsu.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 14:36:03 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: faq site address? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Is assistant.beckman.uiuc.edu the correct site for the faq? When I try to ftp to this site, I get a 'connection refused' message or 'connection came up halfway then died' message. Any suggestions? Thanks. Ron -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ronald L. Sakaguchi, DDS, MS, PhD Dept of Biomaterials & Biomechanics Associate Professor Oregon Health Sciences University voice: (503) 494-8692 611 SW Campus Drive, SD-503 fax: (503) 494-8260 Portland, OR 97201-3097 rls@mthood.ohsu.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 18:12:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23964; Tue, 14 Mar 95 18:12:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17083; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 17:56:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 17:56:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17070; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 17:56:53 -0500 Received: from [136.152.71.68] by uclink.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/1.33(web)-OV4) id OAA24441; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 14:25:46 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 14:25:46 -0800 X-Sender: rjoung@uclink.berkeley.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: rjoung@uclink.berkeley.edu (Ron Joung) Subject: Please unsubscribe me. 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Ron Joung Programmer / Analyst Athletics and Rec Sports University of California, Berkeley From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 18:26:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00446; Tue, 14 Mar 95 18:26:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18290; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 18:14:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 18:14:11 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18274; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 18:14:09 -0500 Received: from @mail.hooked.net (worm.hooked.net [199.2.134.13]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA02326 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 15:14:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199503142314.PAA02326@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mail.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 15:14:04 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: bouncing message to the list Reply-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >In message Tue, 14 Mar 95 09:13:33 MST, > ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) writes: > >> Also... Could whoever acts as admin for the list see if a "Reply-To:" >> tag can be added so most mailers will automatically use the TP750 >> address instead of the post they're replying to... Thanks... > >You don't want to do this. If Reply-to is set to the mailing list, and >a message to an address bounces or gets an automated reply, it goes back >to the mailing list, which sends it out again, which sends it back to the >mailing list again, ad infinitium. That's easy to fix with procmail and an x-loop test.. -- ______________________________________________________________ jesse montrose login status available at http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 18:48:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04851; Tue, 14 Mar 95 18:48:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19340; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 18:26:23 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 18:26:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19327; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 18:26:16 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA06982 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 14 Mar 1995 18:26:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 18:25:51 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: ADMIN: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I think what I'll do from now on concerning announcements is the following: For new systems or major upgrade options I'll post the full announcement. For PCMCIA peripherals and non-essential things, I'll post the first 50 lines or so and a form letter saying how to get the full announcement from this new announcement service. You can actually subscribe to this announcement service and have it send you announcements on only the categories you're interested in, but there is no separate option for only Thinkpad and Mobile options. The closest to that is Personal systems which includes all of IBM's Desktop systems as well. Josh Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 16:14:18 -0500 From: US Announcement Letter Listserver To: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Subject: Subscription notification message _______________________________________________________________________ IBM US Announcement Letter Listserver Service -- Detailed Instructions Greetings and welcome to the IBM U.S Announcement Letter Listserver Service! An easier way to receive IBM announcements! The US Announcement Listserver automatically supplies an Internet e-mail user with timely new announcement information (titles and optionally the letter) from selected categories. Getting Started ... Q: How do I obtain the US Announcement Letter category form? A: Send an e-mail to announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com. The keyword "subscribe" must be your first and only word in the body of the e-mail (leave the subject blank). Q: Once I have the category form, what do I do? A: Select the categories you would like to subscribe to. Q: How do I select a subscription to a category? A: There are 2 ways. See "Methods to Select a Category" for details. Q: What does it mean to subscribe? A: You will be notified of each new US Announcement Letter title in the categories you previously selected when the announcement letter is published. You can also request to have the ASCII version of the US Announcement Letter sent to you. Q: Now that I have selected a category, what will I receive? A: You will receive *one* e-mail with the titles of the US Announcement Letters that match your category selection. Q: How often will I receive the e-mail? A: Generally once a week on Tuesdays. Q: When can I expect to receive the e-mail? A: The distribution process is triggered mid-morning the day of announce. You should receive the e-mail late Tuesday (possibly Wednesday if network problems arise). Q: I receive the e-mail with the US Announcement Letter titles that match my category subscriptions. How can I get the actual text of the announcement letter? A: You can use the Listserver Service to obtain an ASCII version (in an e-mail) or you can use the 1-800-IBM-4FAX service to have a copy of the US Announcement Letter faxed to you. See "To Get the Detailed US Announcement Letter" below for details. Q: How do I unselect a subscription to a category? A: There are 2 ways. See "To Unselect a Category" for details. Q: How do I completely unsubscribe from the Listserver Service? A: Send an e-mail to announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com. The keyword "unsubscribe" must be your first and only word in the body of the e-mail (leave the subject blank). Q: Whom can I contact if I have questions or suggestions? A: Send an e-mail to usannltr@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com. ______________________________________________________________________ Detailed Information... Methods To Select a Category... There are 2 ways: A. If your e-mail facility allows you to forward/resend the e-mail that contains the category form, place a "S" (for select) to the left of the category description. Do NOT edit/strip any information from the category form. Resend the updated form with your choices to announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com. For example: To: announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com _ HARDWARE (HW000) _ Processors (HW100) _ Large (Mainframes, Enterprise Systems, Large Scale)(HW110) S AS/400 Business Computing Systems and Servers (HW120) _ Advanced Work Stations (RISC/6000, AIX) (HW130) _ Personal Systems (PC Series, ThinkPads) (HW140) S Supercomputers (HW150) _ Parallel Processors (HW160) ... In this example, the user "selected" (to subscribe to) two categories: AS/400 Business Computing Systems...(HW120) and Supercomputers (HW150) B. Alternatively, you can simply send a new e-mail with the keyword SELECT in the body of the e-mail (leave the subject blank) followed by the category descriptor codes (the 5 characters in () at the end of the category descriptor) to announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com. For example, to subscribe to AS/400 Business Computing ...(HW120) and Supercomputers (HW150), the user would send the following e-mail: To: announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com Subject: SELECT HW120 HW150 o Get the Detailed US Announcement Letter... A. If your e-mail facility allows you to forward/resend the e-mail that contains the US Announcement Letter titles, place a "G" (for Get) to the left of the letter title. Resend the updated form, with your request for ASCII output for the selected announcement letters, to announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com. For example: To: announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com Hardware G 194405 Cooperative Hardware Withdrawal: CBIS CD Tower _ 194404 Options by IBM: Storage Products G 194401 IBM 7135 Raidiant Array Feature Enhancements _ 194399 IBM 3174 Establishment Controller Model 95R ... In this example, the user requested to "get" the ASCII versions of the US Announcement Letter 194405 and 194401. B. Alternatively, you can send a separate e-mail with the keyword GET in the body of the e-mail (leave subject blank) followed by the US Announcement Letter number (the 6 digits that precede the announcement letter title) to announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com. For example, to get the US announcement letters 194405 and 194401, the user would send the following e-mail: To: announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com Subject: GET 194405 194401 C. If you prefer to obtain the US Announcement Letter(s) by fax, call in the United States, 1-800-IBM-4FAX (24 hours/day, 7 days/week service), then select: 1. Main menu option "2 -- Know your document number" and 2. Enter the 6 digit US Announcement Letter number as the document number, e.g, 194405. Note: Only 5 documents (US Announcement Letters) can be selected at a time with this service. 3. Follow directions to enter the receiving fax machine number To Unselect a Category A. If your e-mail facility allows you to forward/resend the e-mail that contains the category form, place a "U" (for unselect) to the left of the category description. Do NOT edit/strip any information from the category form. Resend the updated form with your choices to announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com. For example: To: announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com _ HARDWARE (HW000) _ Processors (HW100) _ Large (Mainframes, Enterprise Systems, Large Scale)(HW110) U AS/400 Business Computing Systems and Servers (HW120) _ Advanced Work Stations (RISC/6000, AIX) (HW130) _ Personal Systems (PC Series, ThinkPads) (HW140) U Supercomputers (HW150) _ Parallel Processors (HW160) ... In this example, the user unselects 2 categories: AS/400 (HW120) and Supercomputers (HW150) B. Alternatively, you can simply send a new e-mail with the keyword SELECT in the body of the e-mail (leave subject blank) followed by the negative (minus) sign "-" and the category description codes (the 5 characters in () at the end of the category descriptor) to announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com. For example, to unselect AS/400...(HW120) and Supercomputers (HW150), the user would send the following e-mail: To: announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com Subject: SELECT -HW120 -HW150 The above example will unsubscribe you from the AS/400 Business Computing Systems and Servers (HW120) and Supercomputers (HW150) categories. ______________________________________________________________________ Quick Reference 1. Listserver e-mail address: announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com 2. Sending an e-mail to the Listserver address with the following.. Note: only one keyword is allowed per e-mail. Keyword (in the body of the e-mail (subject is blank)) Results in... ------------------- --------------------------------------- Subscribe US Announcement Letter Category form sent to you. Unsubscribe Removes you from the Listserver service completely. All selections are removed. Select HW110 Receive US Announcement Letter information pertaining to the HW110 category Select -HW110 Removes your request to receive US Announcement Letter information pertaining to the HW110 category Select HW222 -HW111 Add category HW222 and remove category HW111 3. Questions or suggestions? Send an e-mail to usannltr@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com. 4. Common user errors (aka user don'ts) A. Don't place "subscribe" in the subject of the e-mail. B. Don't edit the category form (strip out text) except to specify S (for select) or U (unselect) C. When sending a separate e-mail (not forwarding an e-mail), do not include multiple listserver commands in that e-mail. Valid listserver commands are: Subscribe, Select, Get and Unselect. Only one command within an e-mail can be used at a time. Each e-mail that contains multiple selects and gets (or any combination thereof) can not be processed. ______________________________________________________________________ Please note that the products described, prices, and contact addresses mentioned in the attachment apply in the United States only, and may not be applicable in other countries. Readers in other countries should contact IBM locally for details. _______________________________________________________________________ 13.02.95 14:00 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 20:56:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24185; Tue, 14 Mar 95 20:56:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29072; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 20:44:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 20:44:15 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from earth.execpc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29061; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 20:44:13 -0500 Received: from earth (earth [204.29.202.50]) by earth.execpc.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA26152; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 19:42:24 -0600 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 19:42:22 -0600 (CST) From: Dave Clark X-Sender: dce@earth To: Victor Kress Cc: Thinkpad750 List Subject: Re: 32-bit In-Reply-To: <9503121942.AA29157@gl.ciw.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 12 Mar 1995, Victor Kress wrote: > >Have a 755CE, and tried turning on 32-bit disk access in Win 3.11 (I was > >bored), and was a little surprised to see that it wouldn't work. > > You probably have a hard disk larger than 512 Megs. It's a windows > limitation on IDE drives. It's one of the things which led me to OS2. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Victor Kress > Carnegie Institution of Washington, Geophysical Laboratory > 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. > Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 > (202) 686-2410 x2489 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Appreciate the reply... This is a 340 meg (I swap 2 of them). I think I have another problem that's being triggered when I select that option, because upon reload into Windows, she's just hanging on a black screen...if I'm not mistaken a message should pop up telling me I can't use 32-bit disk access if that is in fact the problem...? So from what you're saying, it sounds like turning on 32-bit file access when w4wg is installed *should* work with these drives... that's what I'm ultimately shooting for. Thanks DC From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 14 21:21:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27469; Tue, 14 Mar 95 21:21:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00442; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 21:03:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 21:03:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00430; Tue, 14 Mar 1995 21:02:58 -0500 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id KAA28701 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 10:00:59 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199503150200.KAA28701@baijuyi> Subject: FYI: HD upgrade + external HD, RWO To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 10:00:58 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text ``..Road Warrior Outpost writes, ` Date: Tue, 14 Mar 95 11:11:59 PST ` Subject: IBM TP360 Upgrade ` ` SHIP KITS ` ` Our "Ship Kits" are designed for technicians who are knowledgable about your ` portable computer. 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Cheers. ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 15 11:55:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20854; Wed, 15 Mar 95 11:55:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02369; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 11:34:28 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 11:34:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02350; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 11:34:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199503151634.LAA02350@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14279; Wed, 15 Mar 95 11:33:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 95 11:33:11 -0500 From: Chris Hanson To: rls@mthood.ohsu.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9503141436.ZM6939@mthood.ohsu.edu> (rls@mthood.ohsu.edu) Subject: Re: faq site address? From: "Ronald Sakaguchi" Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 14:36:03 -0800 Is assistant.beckman.uiuc.edu the correct site for the faq? When I try to ftp to this site, I get a 'connection refused' message or 'connection came up halfway then died' message. Any suggestions? The correct site is "swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu" in the directory "/pub/thinkpad/faq". From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 15 12:21:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26668; Wed, 15 Mar 95 12:21:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05335; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 12:06:46 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 12:06:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dns004.ford.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05313; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 12:06:41 -0500 Received: from sun1.apo.ford.com (sun1old.apo.ford.com [19.55.14.24]) by dns004.ford.com (8.6.7/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA26191 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 12:06:37 -0500 Received: from ren0010.so.ford.com by sun1.apo.ford.com (5.0/Ford 2.0) via id AA02781; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 11:59:42 +0500 Received: from REN0010/PMAIL by ren0010.so.ford.com (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 15 Mar 95 12:05:21 +1100 Received: from PMAIL by REN0010 (Mercury 1.11); Wed, 15 Mar 95 12:05:01 +1100 From: "Adam Wilkinson" To: "Randall King" , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 12:05:00 EST Subject: Re: Hard Drive password Reply-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Confirm-Reading-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <10C4C063B01@ren0010.so.ford.com> > Date: Mon, 13 Mar 95 09:10:28 EST > From: "Randall King" > To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > Subject: Hard Drive password > Hello all, > How about this. What if you have a password set up on the Hard Drive > itself? Does anyone know how to get that off if you don't have the > password? Utilize the sledge hammer method? :) > > Randall According to IBM, if you forget the password on a hard drive, it's time to buy a new hard drive. There is no way to override it. -- Adam Lee Wilkinson Portable Computing Technology Specialist Ford Motor Co. - Marketing & Sales Systems awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 15 13:43:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11034; Wed, 15 Mar 95 13:43:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11171; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 13:26:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 13:26:20 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from booz.bah.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11161; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 13:26:18 -0500 Received: from smtpjii.bah.com (smtpjii.bah.com [156.80.9.162]) by booz.bah.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA18630 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 13:25:45 -0500 Received: by smtpjii.bah.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F675ABC@smtpjii.bah.com>; Wed, 15 Mar 95 13:23:08 PST From: Phillips Ted To: tp750 Subject: Re: Hard Drive password Date: Wed, 15 Mar 95 13:18:00 PST Message-Id: <2F675ABC@smtpjii.bah.com> Encoding: 52 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 >> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 95 09:10:28 EST >> From: "Randall King" >>To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >> Subject: Hard Drive password >> Hello all, >> How about this. What if you have a password set up on the Hard Drive >> itself? Does anyone know how to get that off if you don't have the >> password? Utilize the sledge hammer method? :) >> >> Randall >According to IBM, if you forget the password on a hard drive, it's >time to buy a new hard drive. There is no way to override it. >-- >Adam Lee Wilkinson >Portable Computing Technology Specialist >Ford Motor Co. - Marketing & Sales Systems >awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com This seems pretty ridiculous that a standard off-the-shelf 2.5" HD would be rendered useless by forgetting the password. Granted that the much-discussed IBM custom case provides makes it a proprietary item, but the actual drive is an OEM item. Does anyone know what the password does to lock the disk or where it is stored? I don't think it encrypts the contents of the disk. It must record the password on the disk itself. If so, you should at minimum, be able to use a disk utility to reformat the drive on another machine by taking the HD out of the case. And if we could determine where the password was stored, it might be feasible to selectively zero this information out. I don't know. I'm just speculating here, but does anyone else agree that forgetting your HD password shouldn't require you to toss the disk in the trashcan (as IBM suggests)? There has to be a way to hack it -- SOMEBODY inside IBM designed this security system, so there HAS to be information somewhere on how this thing works. In large organizations that have a large number of ThinkPads, IBM has a responsibility to give us the information we need to manage the resources we paid good money to purchase. Right now my group only has a small It hasn't happened to us yet, but what if an employee becomes disgruntled and leaves the company without telling us his password? What if an employee dies in a car wreck? Do we have to trash an entire 500Mb drive with potentially important information on it? I think not. Does anyone else have any information on this? Grumble, grumble, grumble. Ted Phillips phillipst@bah.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 15 13:48:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13264; Wed, 15 Mar 95 13:48:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11562; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 13:33:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 13:33:15 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11551; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 13:33:14 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id NAA11945; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 13:30:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199503151830.NAA11945@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: Chris Hanson Cc: rls@mthood.ohsu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: faq site address? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 15 Mar 1995 11:33:11 EST." <199503151634.LAA02350@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 13:29:54 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > > Is assistant.beckman.uiuc.edu the correct site for the faq? When I > try to ftp to this site, I get a 'connection refused' message or > 'connection came up halfway then died' message. Any suggestions? > > The correct site is "swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu" in the directory > "/pub/thinkpad/faq". okay, I've changed the list welcome message to point to the new location. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 15 14:46:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20870; Wed, 15 Mar 95 14:46:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15133; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 14:33:02 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 14:33:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15123; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 14:32:58 -0500 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07318; Wed, 15 Mar 95 11:32:04 PST Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id LAA04996; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 11:31:58 -0800 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9503151131.ZM4994@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 11:31:58 -0800 In-Reply-To: "Adam Wilkinson" "Re: Hard Drive password" (Mar 15, 12:05pm) References: <10C4C063B01@ren0010.so.ford.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Hard Drive password Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mar 15, 12:05pm, Adam Wilkinson wrote: > Subject: Re: Hard Drive password > > How about this. What if you have a password set up on the Hard Drive > > itself? Does anyone know how to get that off if you don't have the > > password? Utilize the sledge hammer method? :) > > > > Randall > > According to IBM, if you forget the password on a hard drive, it's > time to buy a new hard drive. There is no way to override it. > -- > Adam Lee Wilkinson > Portable Computing Technology Specialist > Ford Motor Co. - Marketing & Sales Systems > > awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com >-- End of excerpt from Adam Wilkinson This is stated in the hardware service manual, but I find it hard to believe. I would imagine if you poked around with a hard-disk editor like the Norton Commander, you would find the password on track 0. It _is_ possible that they encrypted the password, but considering the amount of effort they put into the boot password, I consider that to be unlikely. Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 15 14:56:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23103; Wed, 15 Mar 95 14:56:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15998; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 14:43:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 14:43:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15987; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 14:43:42 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0royz2-0004tlC; Wed, 15 Mar 95 13:43 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0royz0-0002nbC; Wed, 15 Mar 95 13:43 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0royz0-0002wwC; Wed, 15 Mar 95 13:43 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Hard Drive password To: phillipst@bah.com (Phillips Ted) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 13:43:50 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <2F675ABC@smtpjii.bah.com> from "Phillips Ted" at Mar 15, 95 01:18:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Does anyone know what the password does to lock the disk or where it is > stored? I don't think it encrypts the contents of the disk. It must record > the password on the disk itself. If so, you should at minimum, be able to > use a disk utility to reformat the drive on another machine by taking the HD > out of the case. And if we could determine where the password was stored, > it might be feasible to selectively zero this information out. The drive has a IDE command for the password. Thus one could assume that the password is stored on the media. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 15 15:53:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00482; Wed, 15 Mar 95 15:53:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20214; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 15:32:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 15:32:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20199; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 15:32:20 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rozkB-0004tfC; Wed, 15 Mar 95 14:32 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rozkA-0002nbC; Wed, 15 Mar 95 14:32 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rozk8-0002wwC; Wed, 15 Mar 95 14:32 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Hard Drive password To: george@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 14:32:32 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9503151131.ZM4994@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> from "Robert George" at Mar 15, 95 11:31:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > This is stated in the hardware service manual, but I find it hard to believe. > I would imagine if you poked around with a hard-disk editor like the Norton > Commander, you would find the password on track 0. > > It _is_ possible that they encrypted the password, but considering the amount > of effort they put into the boot password, I consider that to be unlikely. > The password is NOT implemented by the bios in a reserved sector. There is an IDE command for the password. Thus I don't think that you really want to deal with the problem. Now if you are the NSA.... -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 15 15:58:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04855; Wed, 15 Mar 95 15:58:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21188; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 15:42:43 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 15:42:40 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ix3.ix.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21175; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 15:42:38 -0500 Received: from by ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.6.9/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id MAA25935; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 12:40:53 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 12:40:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199503152040.MAA25935@ix3.ix.netcom.com> From: mhgross@ix.netcom.com (Michael Gross) Subject: WTB: 750/755 Hard Drive 340/540 MB To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Would like to buy 340/540MB hard drive (I now have a 170MB). Perhaps from someone who is upgrading their system to a larger drive. Please email me at . Thanks. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 15 17:32:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20617; Wed, 15 Mar 95 17:32:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29803; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 17:22:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 17:22:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29788; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 17:22:31 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id RAA02002; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 17:26:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 17:26:04 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Adam Wilkinson Cc: Randall King , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Hard Drive password In-Reply-To: <10C4C063B01@ren0010.so.ford.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 Mar 1995, Adam Wilkinson wrote: > > How about this. What if you have a password set up on the Hard Drive > > itself? Does anyone know how to get that off if you don't have the > > password? Utilize the sledge hammer method? :) > > > > Randall > > According to IBM, if you forget the password on a hard drive, it's > time to buy a new hard drive. There is no way to override it. Given that the drive is just a 2.5 drive and there is no additional electronics, that's gotta be a load of hooey. Probably there's a bit or something set when the password is installed that the laptop checks for. It can't be stored on the computer because it has to keep the drive safe on OTHER computers. There may be sufficient encryption on the thing to protect it (doubt it) but there's no doubt in my mind you could pop the case and make it drive 2 on a desktop and reformat it. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 15 19:14:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08064; Wed, 15 Mar 95 19:14:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08057; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 18:55:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 18:55:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.ucsd.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08041; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 18:55:03 -0500 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id PAA23631 sendmail 8.6.10/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Wed, 15 Mar 1995 15:54:59 -0800 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199503152354.PAA23631@mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 0646 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 15:33:28 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 15:33:26 +0000 Subject: Using Quantum 514MB Drive in TP360? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 I have an opportunity to buy a Quantum 514 MB 2.5" hard drive (Go Drive 514AT) very cheaply :-). I know an IBM drive can be put into the plastic enclosure that a TP uses, but will this Quantum drive work (it is 17mm thick)? Has anyone ever used this drive in a TP75X or TP360? (Am I asking for trouble?) ============================================================== Tom Franklin tomf@conic.loral.com (work) tomf@pwa.acusd.edu (home) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 15 23:13:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22853; Wed, 15 Mar 95 23:13:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22940; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 23:05:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 23:05:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kitten.mcs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22889; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 23:05:22 -0500 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA11691 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 22:05:17 -0600 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 15 Mar 95 22:02 CST Received: by falkor.chi.il.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Wed, 15 Mar 95 21:49:54 CST for dwhite@shadow.net To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: poweron password? From: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us (Ron Heiby) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 95 21:47:49 CST In-Reply-To: Organization: DML, Inc., Buffalo Grove, IL Excuse me, but I think that everyone has missed the point. As I read the original question, the poor guy was trying to set/change the poweron password from Easy-Setup -- after already having set it once. The way I read the manual, once you set the password, the only way to change or remove it is at the password prompt itself. You only use the Easy-Setup stuff to set it the first time (or again, if you remove it). RTFM! :-) Ron. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 17 05:26:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08225; Fri, 17 Mar 95 05:26:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA03361; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 05:12:57 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 05:12:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from village.slip.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA03337; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 05:12:51 -0500 Received: by village.slip.uiuc.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0116; Fri, 17 Mar 95 04:05:40 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Subject: Re: poweron password? Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 13:25:32 -0500 Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu (Sean Chou) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199503112303.PAA08188@get.hooked.net> Lines: 11 jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) wrote: > I can't change or remove it though. When I go into the initial setup > screen, I can change the supervisor or drive passwords (they're both empty > tho') but the poweron password is dimmed.. For the TP750's anyway, the way to remove a password is to enter it with a space after the password. That will automatically kill off the current password and allow you to set a new one. --- Sean Chou / schou@uiuc.edu / Compuserve: 73672,2111 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 17 07:11:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21484; Fri, 17 Mar 95 07:11:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01453; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 04:38:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 04:38:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01443; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 04:38:29 -0500 Received: from dec3300.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA21500; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 02:32:06 -0700 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by dec3300.cuug.ab.ca (5.65//ident-1.0) id AA08301; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 02:35:00 -0700 Message-Id: <9503170935.AA08301@dec3300.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Shadow RAM? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1995 02:34:59 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to find out if the video bios on my Thinkpad 755CD is shadowed. Anyone know a way to tell? Anyone know a way to turn it off? Thanks! +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 17 08:48:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08081; Fri, 17 Mar 95 08:48:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA13501; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 06:35:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 06:35:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA13474; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 06:34:58 -0500 Received: from efd.lth.se [130.235.49.13] (elg-3.efd.lth.se) by kobra.efd.lth.se with smtp (perl jhmail 0.20) (rfc1413: f91el@elg-3.efd.lth.se) id 2f6972f2_364e_1 ; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 12:30:59 MET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1995 12:30:55 +0100 From: Erik Lindahl To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Better Display driverss found?! Hi, ISome weeks ago i played around at Hobbes (ftp for OS2/2) and found a file called somethink g like "wdc.zip"... Anyway, it contains display drivers forWestern Digital drivers for OS/"WD90C24/31 dricvevers for OS/2.... WhatsI. but ; I My mothermother has got a thinlkkpad of her owntoo, although only with windoze.., asso I took the driver called "WD2408" .DRV" and (ment provide d for seamless windows") and renamed it VDC24.DRV. It is considerably faster than the ones provided on the thinkpad disks"! To>YYou hYou have to change the setteings in system.ini, too: (8[WD90C24] (Note! New head!) WidthxHeight=640x480 (for examplechoose res) dacdepth=6 Enable216=0 Fontsize=small HWCursor=YEses HWBitBlt=Yes HWLineDraw=Yes I found these settings by browsing thorugh rough the .DSP files for OS/"2 on the dion the disk., but there and more interesting: thertee atre entries in these files sayintating modes like "WDC"$24 800x600x65536 accelerated"! (On ext monitor) Now, I konwnow that many peooof you have satated that thd that this chip is only 8.-bit, but is thia s based on facts, or is it a conclusiontrhha the situation that 16-bit drivers arte none-existant? (NOTEI suppose that 2408 means an 8-bit driverr - the higher mode uses WD3116.DRV, whereere the 16 supposedly stands for 16-bit .. THe descriptipoon al, although, says WD)=C90C24 high-color, too.") I haven't playerd with it that much, but and I havendt't ggoptt high-color to work on an external monitor. But perhaps some of you aoout are a little more skilled? (It would be nice to have more colors, and the drivers are faster!) When I think of it, doesn't the new VERSA and Thinkpads offer high-color with the WD90C24aA? Good Luck, Erik From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 17 14:54:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10051; Fri, 17 Mar 95 14:54:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17728; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 14:01:33 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 14:01:31 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub-gate.UB.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17717; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 14:01:28 -0500 Received: from garfield (garfield.UB.com) by ub-gate.UB.com (4.1/SMI-4.1[UB-1.9.1]) id AA19114; Fri, 17 Mar 95 11:00:42 PST Received: from smtp.UB.com ([128.203.7.39]) by garfield (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09618; Fri, 17 Mar 95 11:00:19 PST Received: by smtp.UB.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.0)/1.2) id AA7786; Fri, 17 Mar 95 11:02:30 -0800 Message-Id: <9503171902.AA7786@smtp.UB.com> Received: from UB with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 3715E1AC0FC3E8318525618200672DA7; Fri, 17 Mar 95 11:02:29 To: tp750 From: Ken Yee/UB Networks Date: 17 Mar 95 13:49:24 EDT Subject: Running RLN client on 755CE/CD? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Has anyone successfully run the RLN client on the 755CE/CD's built-in Mwave modem? The RLN client doesn't have a config for it and I'm not sure which AT commands this modem supports for flow control, etc. Are there any other applications that have problems w/ the Mwave modem? I know about the MSMail one where you have to deactivate exclusive execution from DOS windows... thanks, ken From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 17 15:58:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20941; Fri, 17 Mar 95 15:58:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24707; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 15:37:36 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 15:37:34 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24686; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 15:37:29 -0500 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA01762 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Fri, 17 Mar 1995 14:37:11 -0600 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199503172037.AA01762@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: WD90c24 chip To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1995 14:37:25 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Erik Lindahl" at Mar 17, 95 12:30:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > When I think of it, doesn't the new VERSA and Thinkpads offer high-color with > the WD90C24A? Yes, many of the newer notebooks are capable of displaying 64k colors on the notebook screen, using the WD90c24a. I don't think the original TP750's are capable of that display and I don't know when the change was made (TP755Ce's?). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 17 17:16:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09551; Fri, 17 Mar 95 17:16:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00716; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 17:01:41 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 17:01:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub-gate.UB.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00706; Fri, 17 Mar 1995 17:01:34 -0500 Received: from garfield (garfield.UB.com) by ub-gate.UB.com (4.1/SMI-4.1[UB-1.9.1]) id AA26213; Fri, 17 Mar 95 14:00:57 PST Received: from smtp.UB.com ([128.203.7.39]) by garfield (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11022; Fri, 17 Mar 95 14:00:47 PST Received: by smtp.UB.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.0)/1.2) id AA9338; Fri, 17 Mar 95 14:02:57 -0800 Message-Id: <9503172202.AA9338@smtp.UB.com> Received: from UB with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 6AE288EEE3346D93852561820078B135; Fri, 17 Mar 95 14:02:57 To: tp From: Ken Yee/UB Networks Date: 17 Mar 95 17:01:30 EDT Subject: RE: WD90c24 chip Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > Yes, many of the newer notebooks are capable of displaying 64k colors > on the notebook screen, using the WD90c24a. I don't think the > original TP750's are capable of that display and I don't know when > the change was made (TP755Ce's?). The change was made on the TP755CE/CD. The TP701C Butterfly also has a 64K display and with the 90c24 in 16.7M color mode, the TFT display can show 1.7M unique colors :-) What I want to know is when there will be a Thinkpad w/ Cardbus PCMCIA support. This adds DMA to the PCMCIA cards and allows a large number of other cards to be made into PCMCIA cards...e.g., a true Soundblaster compatible PCMCIA card or a GUSMAX PCMCIA card or.... ken From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 18 22:39:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23096; Sat, 18 Mar 95 22:39:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20473; Sat, 18 Mar 1995 22:26:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 18 Mar 1995 22:26:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20463; Sat, 18 Mar 1995 22:26:41 -0500 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22556; Sat, 18 Mar 95 19:25:39 PST Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id TAA07371; Sat, 18 Mar 1995 19:25:32 -0800 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9503181925.ZM7369@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 19:25:31 -0800 In-Reply-To: Ken Yee/UB Networks "RE: WD90c24 chip" (Mar 17, 5:01pm) References: <9503172202.AA9338@smtp.UB.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: WD90c24 chip Cc: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu, Ken_Yee@UB.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mar 17, 5:01pm, Ken Yee/UB Networks wrote: > Subject: RE: WD90c24 chip > > Yes, many of the newer notebooks are capable of displaying 64k colors > > on the notebook screen, using the WD90c24a. I don't think the > > original TP750's are capable of that display and I don't know when > > the change was made (TP755Ce's?). > The change was made on the TP755CE/CD. The TP701C Butterfly > also has a 64K display and with the 90c24 in 16.7M color mode, the > TFT display can show 1.7M unique colors :-) >-- End of excerpt from Ken Yee/UB Networks The number of colors which can be displayed has nothing to do with the TFT panel. The transistors in a TFT display are not switching transistors -- they are current amplifiers. The TFT display has three transisistors, one each for the red, green, and blue pixel. Each of these pixels is driven by an analog signal. In other words, TFT's are *analog* panels -- not digital. They can display an infinite number of simultaneous colors. The limit to the number of colors which can be simulataneously displayed on a laptop is determined by the number of bits in the D/A converter which drives the TFT panel. The more bits available for discrete levels of RGB, the more simultaneous colors can be displayed. Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 19 22:14:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04376; Sun, 19 Mar 95 22:14:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03778; Sun, 19 Mar 1995 22:02:47 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 19 Mar 1995 22:02:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03768; Sun, 19 Mar 1995 22:02:44 -0500 From: Received: from MILANESE.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA17737; Sun, 19 Mar 95 22:02:42 EST Received: by milanese.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA28377; Sun, 19 Mar 95 22:02:40 -0500 Message-Id: <9503200302.AA28377@milanese.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Missing memory in 755c? Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 22:02:38 EST Hello, I ordered my 755 with 4 Megs of memory but when I boot up it only registers 3712 Kilo bytes. Is this a problem or do they all come this way? Thanks, Bill Daughton -------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 19 22:46:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09679; Sun, 19 Mar 95 22:46:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06004; Sun, 19 Mar 1995 22:34:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 19 Mar 1995 22:34:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05994; Sun, 19 Mar 1995 22:34:01 -0500 From: Received: from MILANESE.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA19047; Sun, 19 Mar 95 22:33:59 EST Received: by milanese.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA29274; Sun, 19 Mar 95 22:33:58 -0500 Message-Id: <9503200333.AA29274@milanese.MIT.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Non-ibm mouse in ps2 port ? Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 22:33:57 EST Hello, I bought a MouseSystems mouse which came with an adapter to plug it into the ps2 port. I load the mouse driver using a ps2 compatiblity switch. The trackpoint works fine but the mouse doesn't work at all. Do I have to buy a genuine IBM ps2 mouse to be able to use both trackpoint and mouse easily. It is a real pain to use the "easy setup" to reconfigure for a serial mouse each time I need it. Thanks for any help, Bill Daughton -------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 20 08:00:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00254; Mon, 20 Mar 95 08:00:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18683; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 07:50:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 07:50:14 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sh1.ro.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18665; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 07:50:11 -0500 Received: from ts1p4.ro.com (ts1p4.ro.com [204.181.74.24]) by sh1.ro.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA29431; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 06:57:11 -0600 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 06:57:11 -0600 Message-Id: <199503201257.GAA29431@sh1.ro.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: Re: Non-ibm mouse in ps2 port ? Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU >Do I have to buy a genuine IBM ps2 mouse to be able to use both >trackpoint and mouse easily. It is a real pain to use the "easy setup" >to reconfigure for a serial mouse each time I need it. George, I'm using one of the curved (ergonomic) MS mice with my TP750 with no problems. It came with an adapter to convert the db-9 connector into a PS2 connector which plugged right in to the side. Don. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 20 08:49:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12355; Mon, 20 Mar 95 08:49:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21760; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 08:33:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 08:33:51 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from student.uq.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21746; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 08:33:46 -0500 Received: from student.uq.edu.au (cs322612@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by student.uq.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA08502 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 23:33:29 +1000 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 23:33:23 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson Subject: Re: Non-ibm mouse in ps2 port ? Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199503201257.GAA29431@sh1.ro.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU On Mon, 20 Mar 1995, Don Ramsey wrote: > >Do I have to buy a genuine IBM ps2 mouse to be able to use both > >trackpoint and mouse easily. It is a real pain to use the "easy setup" > >to reconfigure for a serial mouse each time I need it. > > George, I'm using one of the curved (ergonomic) MS mice with my TP750 with > no problems. It came with an adapter to convert the db-9 connector into a > PS2 connector which plugged right in to the side. Don. > I use both a Dell PS/2 mouse and a Microsoft Db9 converted to PS2, regularly, with no problems. Chances are your adapter isn't doing it's job properly. Just a question for the list, does anyone interface the same monitor (15") regularly with both Macs and thinkpads? I know Apple monitors are capable of this, will all the higher end DOS monitors work with macs (I'm looking at an NEC 3V). Opinions? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 20 09:13:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15233; Mon, 20 Mar 95 09:13:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24024; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 09:00:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 09:00:34 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gsfc.nasa.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24002; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 09:00:31 -0500 Received: from neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov by gsfc.nasa.gov (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA01020; Mon, 20 Mar 95 09:00:15 -0500 Received: from isobar by neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov via SMTP (950215.SGI.8.6.10/920502.SGI) id JAA26315; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 09:04:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199503201404.JAA26315@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: kirk@neptune X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 09:02:30 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kirk@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert Kirk) Subject: Re: Non-ibm mouse in ps2 port ? Cc: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey), At 06:57 AM 3/20/95 -0600, Don Ramsey wrote: >>Do I have to buy a genuine IBM ps2 mouse to be able to use both >>trackpoint and mouse easily. It is a real pain to use the "easy setup" >>to reconfigure for a serial mouse each time I need it. > >George, I'm using one of the curved (ergonomic) MS mice with my TP750 with >no problems. It came with an adapter to convert the db-9 connector into a >PS2 connector which plugged right in to the side. Don. I have the same setup which after some playing with the configuration, worked fine. My problem is that little pigtail db-9 to PS@: It broke (open wire at the strain relief) and I replaced it with a single db-9 to PS2 adapter (no pigtail) and got no response. Tried again with a second brand with same lack of response. Is there something unique about the TP750 pinout? Bob Kirk From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 20 09:32:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19017; Mon, 20 Mar 95 09:32:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25554; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 09:18:24 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 09:18:22 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub-gate.UB.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25543; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 09:18:20 -0500 Received: from garfield (garfield.UB.com) by ub-gate.UB.com (4.1/SMI-4.1[UB-1.9.1]) id AA17434; Mon, 20 Mar 95 06:17:48 PST Received: from smtp.UB.com ([128.203.7.39]) by garfield (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03714; Mon, 20 Mar 95 06:17:30 PST Received: by smtp.UB.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.0)/1.2) id AA8202; Mon, 20 Mar 95 06:19:52 -0800 Message-Id: <9503201419.AA8202@smtp.UB.com> Received: from UB with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 7210CD665B57139085256185004E1C78; Mon, 20 Mar 95 06:19:51 To: tp750 From: Ken Yee/UB Networks Date: 20 Mar 95 9:18:51 EDT Subject: Re: WD90c24 chip Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > george @ holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil ("Robert George") writes: >The limit to the number of colors which can be simulataneously displayed on a > laptop is determined by the number of bits in the D/A converter which drives > the TFT panel. The more bits available for discrete levels of RGB, the more > simultaneous colors can be displayed. I had always hoped this was true, but why is the butterfly screen limited to 1.7Mil colors? It doesn't seem like a "round" (binary power) number. I also remember seeing some of the early Cirrus Logic TFT chip specs and they were claiming more color support than other chipsets because they flickered the separate RGB transistors to simulate more colors... WD9024 -> D/A and TFT interface -> TFT I think the Cirrus chip I looked at was the middle portion of the above. ken From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 20 10:09:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24480; Mon, 20 Mar 95 10:09:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28293; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 09:57:26 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 09:57:23 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub-gate.UB.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28281; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 09:57:21 -0500 Received: from garfield (garfield.UB.com) by ub-gate.UB.com (4.1/SMI-4.1[UB-1.9.1]) id AA18905; Mon, 20 Mar 95 06:56:48 PST Received: from smtp.UB.com ([128.203.7.39]) by garfield (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04629; Mon, 20 Mar 95 06:56:29 PST Received: by smtp.UB.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.0)/1.2) id AA8470; Mon, 20 Mar 95 06:58:51 -0800 Message-Id: <9503201458.AA8470@smtp.UB.com> Received: from UB with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 9D4BF4061F359FEC852561850051D842; Mon, 20 Mar 95 06:58:50 To: TP750 From: Ken Yee/UB Networks Date: 20 Mar 95 9:57:34 EDT Subject: ps2 ports in general... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > Bob Kirk writes: > My problem is that little pigtail db-9 to PS@: It broke (open wire at the > strain relief) and I replaced it with a single db-9 to PS2 adapter (no pigtail) > and got no response. Tried again with a second brand with same lack > of response. Is there something unique about the TP750 pinout? Just a general comment on these PS2 mouse ports. I recently had a bad experience w/ a Toshiba6400 portable. I blew out the PS2 port by plugging and unplugging the mouse while the power was on (at least that's what the repair technician said). Toshiba even prepared for this case because the PS2 port was on a separate card from the motherboard. I don't know whether Thinkpads are as sensitive, but I probably won't ever buy a Toshiba because of this experience :-) ken From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 20 12:34:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18692; Mon, 20 Mar 95 12:34:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10332; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 12:22:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 12:21:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10320; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 12:21:56 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id MAA11597; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 12:24:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 12:24:17 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Ken Yee/UB Networks Cc: TP750 Subject: Re: ps2 ports in general... In-Reply-To: <9503201458.AA8470@smtp.UB.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 20 Mar 1995, Ken Yee/UB Networks wrote: > Just a general comment on these PS2 mouse ports. I recently had > a bad experience w/ a Toshiba6400 portable. I blew out the PS2 > port by plugging and unplugging the mouse while the power was > on (at least that's what the repair technician said). Toshiba even > prepared for this case because the PS2 port was on a separate > card from the motherboard. > I don't know whether Thinkpads are as sensitive, but I probably > won't ever buy a Toshiba because of this experience :-) Probably shouldn't, but I do this all the time. Never had a problem. I've done it with the mouse alone and with the mouse/keyboard adaptor a multitude of times. Perhaps I'm just beating the odds so far... Seems damned stupid to have to power off and on for the sake of a keyboard, as there are plenty of switching devices that will allow you to swap a single keyboard across many machines. The crappy ones are ~$25 and the more expensive are ~$60. Meaning that the difference is the $.37 diode or something. While I don't expect such components on a $10 motherboard, my $3k 750 oughta be able to do it... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 20 13:35:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28763; Mon, 20 Mar 95 13:35:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13984; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 13:18:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 13:18:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13967; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 13:18:43 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA04020; Mon, 20 Mar 95 09:53:17 MST Date: Mon, 20 Mar 95 09:53:17 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9503201653.AA04020@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: ps2 ports in general... > Just a general comment on these PS2 mouse ports. I recently had > a bad experience w/ a Toshiba6400 portable. I blew out the PS2 > port by plugging and unplugging the mouse while the power was > on (at least that's what the repair technician said). We've had the same experience here at work with two of our Compaq desktop machines. In both cases, the entire motherboard required replacement. Although I would hope that this would not be a problem with a Thinkpad, why take chances? I believe that placing the machine into suspend mode cuts power to, among other things, the mouse port. So, while cycling the power is the safest approach, just putting the TP into suspend is probably equally as effective. Practice safe mousing! _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | kyeanopl@den.mmc.com Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | Denver, CO. 80201 | key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 20 15:36:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19840; Mon, 20 Mar 95 15:36:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22841; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 15:19:30 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 15:19:28 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom11.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22830; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 15:19:26 -0500 From: Received: from msmith by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.10/Netcom) id MAA19953; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 12:17:50 -0800 Received: by msmith (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.13B/1.0um) id AA0082; Mon, 20 Mar 95 12:30:46 -0800 Message-Id: <9503202030.AA0082@msmith> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 95 12:28:14 -0800 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: msmith@netcom.com Subject: Re: ps2 ports in general... X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <81_108_1_795720498> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: An IBM SE assured me this is a safe practice on thinkpads when she gave me an IBM mouse when my trackpoint died the second time and she didn't have a keyboard for a couple of days. //------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 20 15:40:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20337; Mon, 20 Mar 95 15:40:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22995; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 15:20:50 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 15:20:47 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom9.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22979; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 15:20:44 -0500 From: Received: from msmith by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.10/Netcom) id MAA26696; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 12:19:04 -0800 Received: by msmith (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.13B/1.0um) id AA0085; Mon, 20 Mar 95 12:31:57 -0800 Message-Id: <9503202031.AA0085@msmith> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 95 12:28:14 -0800 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: msmith@netcom.com Subject: Re: ps2 ports in general... X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <81_108_1_795720498> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: An IBM SE assured me this is a safe practice on thinkpads when she gave me an IBM mouse when my trackpoint died the second time and she didn't have a keyboard for a couple of days. //------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 20 16:21:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29189; Mon, 20 Mar 95 16:21:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26351; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 16:03:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 16:03:01 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26341; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 16:03:00 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA17755; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 13:02:48 -0800 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id NAA28755; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 13:02:42 -0800 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199503202102.NAA28755@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Missing memory in 755c? To: daughton@mit.edu Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 13:02:41 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9503200302.AA28377@milanese.MIT.EDU> from "daughton@mit.edu" at Mar 19, 95 10:02:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hello, > > I ordered my 755 with 4 Megs of memory but when I boot up > it only registers 3712 Kilo bytes. Is this a problem or do > they all come this way? No problem--a small portion is kept from use because that's where the BIOS (shadow RAM or something like that) lies. > > Thanks, > Bill Daughton > -------- > ----- _____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | I don't recycle. | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | I'm a consumer; | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | dammit-- | right, they should be yours too.) | I consume! | ----------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 21 00:02:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14229; Tue, 21 Mar 95 00:02:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28433; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 23:49:09 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 23:49:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po4.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28423; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 23:49:06 -0500 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po4.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA04043 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 23:48:44 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 23:48:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix19.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 23:46:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix19.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 23:46:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix19.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix19.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Mon, 20 Mar 1995 23:46:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 23:46:41 -0500 (EST) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: help!!!! um... I have a tp755cs and I left my reference manual in school anyway, I turn my computer on and enter my password (which it accepts) then the screen show O > I what does that mean? I have to turn the computer off since I can't do anything else. then when I turn it back on, it does the same thing. I saw that once but don't remember what it means and what I'm supposed to do with it. also, how do i enter the system "setup" for the thinkpads where you can set passwd, and set power for external display, com ports, etc. I thought I was supposed to hold the F1 key while turning the computer on. and the problem above occured. oh well... help me!!!!!! thank you ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sang Kim Je veux que tout le monde sache que j'aime sk6k@andrew.cmu.edu Alexis Hayes, la princesse de l'ecole de Denver (WOW, quelle femme!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 21 00:42:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20354; Tue, 21 Mar 95 00:42:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01525; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 00:32:01 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 00:32:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01515; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 00:31:58 -0500 From: Received: from MILANESE.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA20087; Tue, 21 Mar 95 00:31:56 EST Received: by milanese.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA16053; Tue, 21 Mar 95 00:31:52 -0500 Message-Id: <9503210531.AA16053@milanese.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: LINUX: Xconfig with external monitor (X11R5 on 750Cs) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 00:31:50 EST Hi! I have linux happily running on my machine (v1.1.90) and until now, I was using my internal display, but i just got a hold of my roomates' monitor (he has one of those old and crummy amigas :) and i now need to make it work at a higher resolution than 640x480... I have a copy of the Xconfig for the 755CE but it is for X11R6 and I have had no success making it work (by changing clock speeds in my Xconfig to the ones in the X11R6 file)... can someone out there (or in there) send me a copy of their Xconfig for R5? I don't really know what i'm missing... BTW: on the durability of trackpoints... I was using mine under linux with netscape 1.0 and managed to somehow kill the g-spot... i had to take it in to the shop, it took a week and they charged me 10 bucks for S/H of the keyboard from IBM...(and i thought it was free :( Anyway, is it possible to kill the trackpoint via software (probably not...) or was it my skilled employment of the joy nub? Thanks! Art Arturo J. 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From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 21 13:40:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19830; Tue, 21 Mar 95 13:40:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28282; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 13:15:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 13:15:56 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28271; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 13:15:55 -0500 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07668; Tue, 21 Mar 95 10:14:43 PST Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id KAA08969; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 10:14:25 -0800 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9503211014.ZM8967@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 10:14:24 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: P6 is a RISC Cc: gregt@ASSB01.ARL.MIL, pemmerman@emh3.arl.mil, lewis@cs.nps.navy.mil Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On February 16, Intel presented the details of the P6 architecture at the International Solid-State Cicuits Conference. Intel has abandoned the idea of trying to execute the complex x86 instruction set directly. Instead, the P6 chip translates the CISC instructions on the fly to RISC instructions, dubbed micro-operations or "uops". Intel has published the paper from the proceedings of ISSCC on the web at: http://web.jf.intel.com:80/procs/p6/index.html Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 22 07:03:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26476; Wed, 22 Mar 95 07:03:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA13748; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 06:44:44 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 06:44:43 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA13738; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 06:44:37 -0500 Received: from efd.lth.se [130.235.46.17] (hacke-7.efd.lth.se) by kobra.efd.lth.se with smtp (perl jhmail 0.20) (rfc1413: f91el@hacke-7.efd.lth.se) id 2f700d7b_b6f_1 ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:43:56 MET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:42:28 +0100 From: Erik Lindahl To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Repost on WD90C24, since some of you had problems with the original. >Sorry, I wrote the original message from windows - and I think the program >messed up the character set a little for some of you... Anyway, Reposting: I Some weeks ago i played around at Hobbes (ftp for OS/2) and found a file called something like "wdc.zip"... It contains Western Digital WD90C24/31 drivers for OS/2. (Of course..) Anyway, myy mother has got a thinkpad too,, although only with windoze.., so I took the driver called "WD2408.DRV" (provided for seamless windows) and renamed it VDC24.DRV. It is considerably faster than the ones provided on the thinkpad disks! You have to change the settings in system.ini, too: [WD90C24] (Note! New head!) WidthxHeight=640x480 (for example, choose res) dacdepth=6 Enable216=0 Fontsize=small HWCursor=Yes HWBitBlt=Yes HWLineDraw=Yes I fond these settings by browsing through the .DSP files for OS/2 on the the disk, and more interesting: there are entries in these files stating modes like "WDC24 800x600x65536 accelerated"! (On external monitor) Now, I know that many of you have stated that this chip is only 8-bit, but is this based on facts, or is it a conclusion by the situation that 16-bit drivers are non-existant? (NOTE: I suppose that 2408 means an 8-bit driver - the higher mode uses WD3116.DRV, where the 16 supposedly stands for 16-bit .. The description, although, says WD 90C24 high-color, too.) I haven't played with it that much, and I haven't got high-color to work on an external monitor. (Neither with OS/2 on my machine.) But perhaps some of you are a little more skilled? (It would be nice to have more colors, and the drivers are faster!) When I think of it, doesn't the new VERSA and Thinkpads offer high-color with the WD90C24a? >By the posts on this list during the last days, I draw the conclusion that >the chip really can do more colors - and the screen. The problem could be >the D/A converter, so I presume they have changed it in Butterfly and 755CE? >But the file mentioned above lists TP750C; on several other machines it >also says that these won't do high-color on external monitors, but there >is no such reservation for the Thinkpads, except for the TP500, I believe... Good Luck, Erik From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 22 10:25:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08833; Wed, 22 Mar 95 10:25:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25940; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 09:49:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 09:49:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from booz.bah.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25909; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 09:49:30 -0500 Received: from smtpjii.bah.com (smtpjii.bah.com [156.80.9.162]) by booz.bah.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA11820 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 09:48:45 -0500 Received: by smtpjii.bah.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F706262@smtpjii.bah.com>; Wed, 22 Mar 95 09:46:10 PST From: Phillips Ted To: tp750 Subject: CMS hard drives Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 09:57:00 PST Message-Id: <2F706262@smtpjii.bah.com> Encoding: 29 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Hi! I just rejoined this group after several months absence. When I was participating a few months ago, there was a spirited debate about how the TP750 group could best put together a third-party hard drive for the TP360 and TP75X machines. Anyway, in the interim, I've purchased a brand new CMS 520Mb hard drive for my 360C and thought I would pass along my impressions. First of all -- there is NO PLASTIC CASE for the drive itself. They just took some sheet metal, bent it into a 3-sided bracket-thing, spray painted it robins-egg blue, and bolted the HD inside. It covers only three sides of the drive -- the top and the left and right sides. Then bottom and ends are exposed. The connector at the top is also connected to the bracket. The fit and finish is OK, but not up to IBM standards. After you put the drive in the bay, there is a slight wiggle in the unit (about 1mm) side-to-side. I don't think it is enough to damage the AMP connector, but it could be better. My favorite part, though is the replacement for the "lift bar" -- the little wire thing that you grab when you are lifting the HD out of the machine. One the CMS drive, they took a 2" piece of green electrical wire, put wire connectors on the ends, and screwed them to the top of the metal bracket. Upon first glance, I thought it was the most cheesy thing I had seen in a while. But after using it, I realized that it is actually quite durable -- and if it ever breaks, I can easily repair it (unlike the IBM drive). Anyway, that's my $0.02. Anyone else have experience with third party HDs? Cheers! Ted Phillips phillipst@bah.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 22 12:40:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19812; Wed, 22 Mar 95 12:40:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08365; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:26:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:26:02 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08351; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:26:00 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA10784; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:25:48 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:26:31 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <44792.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: Repost on WD90C24, since some of you had problems with the original. In message Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:42:28 +0100, Erik Lindahl writes: > (NOTE: I suppose that 2408 means an 8-bit driver - the higher mode uses > WD3116.DRV, where the 16 supposedly stands for 16-bit .. The description, > although, says WD 90C24 high-color, too.) .... > When I think of it, doesn't the new VERSA and Thinkpads offer high-color > with the WD90C24a? The TP750 series use the WD90C24 which only has an 8bit DAC. The TP755CE, CSE and CD use the WD90C24a which has a 16bit DAC. I don't know what the old 755 series uses. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 22 12:50:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20453; Wed, 22 Mar 95 12:50:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09757; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:41:12 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:41:08 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09744; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:41:06 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id MAA05226; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:44:36 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:44:35 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Phillips Ted Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: CMS hard drives In-Reply-To: <2F706262@smtpjii.bah.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You failed to give the most important info: what did you pay for this marvel of modern engineering? ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "I timed it. It took 22 seconds for him to hate you." - Chicago Hope ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 22 14:01:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27479; Wed, 22 Mar 95 14:01:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14695; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:43:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:43:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14682; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:43:03 -0500 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA12530; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:43:00 -0600 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:43:42 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Sender: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Message-Id: <49423.jokim@mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: CMS hard drives In message Wed, 22 Mar 95 09:57:00 PST, Phillips Ted writes: > First of all -- there is NO PLASTIC CASE for the drive itself. They just > took some sheet metal, bent it into a 3-sided bracket-thing, spray > painted it robins-egg blue, and bolted the HD inside. It covers only Speaking of which, I've gotten a report that a company called MicroAge also makes an enclosure for the hard drive. I haven't had time to find their phone number and ask for details. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 22 14:11:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27918; Wed, 22 Mar 95 14:11:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15853; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:55:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:55:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from booz.bah.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15837; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:55:51 -0500 Received: from smtpjii.bah.com (smtpjii.bah.com [156.80.9.162]) by booz.bah.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA18699 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:55:12 -0500 Received: by smtpjii.bah.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F709C26@smtpjii.bah.com>; Wed, 22 Mar 95 13:52:38 PST From: Phillips Ted To: tp750 Subject: Re: CMS hard drives Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 13:52:00 PST Message-Id: <2F709C26@smtpjii.bah.com> Encoding: 13 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I paid $767 +tax for the CMS 540Mb drive. The IBM 520Mb drive (from the same vendor) goes for $1170 +tax. That's over $400 difference! Geesh! By the way, CMS does not have any larger capacity drives available right now. They say there are plans in the works for a 1Gb-class unit, but availability is a problem so they haven't announced it yet. The IBM 810Mb drive (at $1792!) is also very scarce -- we have not been able to latch onto any lately. Sigh. Cheerio! Ted Phillips phillipst@bah.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 22 14:20:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28781; Wed, 22 Mar 95 14:20:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16154; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:59:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:59:39 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16144; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:59:37 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id NAA13160; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:56:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199503221856.NAA13160@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: Phillips Ted Cc: tp750 , moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: CMS hard drives In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 22 Mar 1995 09:57:00 PST." <2F706262@smtpjii.bah.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:56:12 -0500 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > First of all -- there is NO PLASTIC CASE for the drive itself. They > just took some sheet metal, bent it into a 3-sided bracket-thing, > spray painted it robins-egg blue, and bolted the HD inside. It > covers only three sides of the drive -- the top and the left and > right sides. Then bottom and ends are exposed. The connector at > the top is also connected to the bracket. The fit and finish is OK, > but not up to IBM standards. After you put the drive in the bay, > there is a slight wiggle in the unit (about 1mm) side-to-side. I > don't think it is enough to damage the AMP connector, but it could > be better. Got a Sigma Data 810Mb drive recently. This drive is packaged in a plastic case with an open bottom (which might allow the use of taller drives). The fit and finish are fine. The only thing missing is the slider that lets you lock your drive inside the unit. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 22 16:25:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10321; Wed, 22 Mar 95 16:25:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27537; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 15:56:30 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 15:56:26 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.ucsd.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27516; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 15:56:23 -0500 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id MAA19717 sendmail 8.6.11/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:56:17 -0800 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199503222056.MAA19717@mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 2478 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:07:32 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:07:28 +0000 Subject: Re: CMS hard drives Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 I have seen an ad for 540 H/D with case for $499, and 810 for $999. I know nothing about this company except their advertizement in Processor magazine. Their number is (516) 932-1400. If anyone finds out the details please post the information. =================================================== Tom Franklin tomf@conic.loral.com (work) tomf@pwa.acusd.edu (home) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 23 11:41:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24655; Thu, 23 Mar 95 11:41:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22606; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 11:24:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 11:24:37 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22592; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 11:24:33 -0500 Received: by chorus.chorus.fr; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 17:21:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 17:21:17 +0100 From: Stephane Eranian Message-Id: <199503231621.AA21826@chorus.chorus.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Linux: Dual scan frequency ranges.... Hello, Yesterday, I played a bit with the latest release of SVGATextMode on my TP360CSE running Linux-1.2.0. It's really a nice program. I managed to get 80x30 and 80x60 modes. I found it really interesting because I can get a block cursor instead of just a line. This is really better on a dual scan screen. Anyway, my question was about the frequency ranges. This program uses a configuration file which is very similar to the XF86Config from Xfree-3.1. Somes modes need special frequency ranges (>70Hz for vertical) although there are reported as supported directly by many SVGA Cards. I wonder if someone konws exactly the ranges *actually* supported by the *DUAL SCAN* screen from the Thinkpads ? My XF86Config currently shows : HorizSync 20-40 VertRefresh 60-70 May I increase some values ? Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 23 14:52:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09046; Thu, 23 Mar 95 14:52:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05686; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 14:40:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 14:40:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from portal.chevron.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05653; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 14:40:13 -0500 Received: from lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com by portal.chevron.com with SMTP id AA12252 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Thu, 23 Mar 1995 11:39:52 -0800 Received: by lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA21784; Thu, 23 Mar 95 11:39:26 -0800 Received: from CPLAN077.ION.CHEVRON.COM by SSW1.ION.CHEVRON.COM (Soft-Switch Central V4L380P1); 23 Mar 1995 11:37:11 PST Message-Id: Date: 23 Mar 95 11:39:03 PST From: "Davenport, Clyde" Subject: MSMail Remote Script for Mwave DSP To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Comment: CPLAN077 CRDA 03-23-95 11:40:00 SSW1 From: Davenport, Clyde -CRDA To: OPEN ADDRESSING SERVI-OPENADDR Subject: MSMail Remote Script for Mwave DSP Date: 1995-03-23 11:29 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ IBM has posted a script for the TP755CE, 755CsE and 755CD with the DPS modem on their BBS and FTP site. I have tried it on my 755CD and it works great. The file is called MSMMWAVE.EXE and can be found on the BBS at 1-191-517-0001 or ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles. Good luck. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 24 12:23:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06692; Fri, 24 Mar 95 12:23:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09301; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 12:03:45 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 12:03:44 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from portal.chevron.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09278; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 12:03:39 -0500 Received: from lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com by portal.chevron.com with SMTP id AA14175 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Fri, 24 Mar 1995 09:03:24 -0800 Received: by lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA02173; Fri, 24 Mar 95 09:02:53 -0800 Received: from CPLAN077.ION.CHEVRON.COM by SSW1.ION.CHEVRON.COM (Soft-Switch Central V4L380P1); 24 Mar 1995 08:55:08 PST Message-Id: Date: 24 Mar 95 09:02:33 PST From: "Davenport, Clyde" Subject: Help! I lost my online book for my 755CD To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Comment: CPLAN077 CRDA 03-24-95 08:56:00 SSW1 From: Davenport, Clyde -CRDA To: OPEN ADDRESSING SERVI-OPENADDR Subject: Help! I lost my online book for my 755CD Date: 1995-03-24 08:43 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Can anyone please tell me where the online manual for the 755CD is located. I seem to have deleted the icon and cannot fine the file. Maybe it was deleted when my Thinkpad went back to IBM for a DSP chip replacement. They say no but I know it was there when I shipped it to them. Any way, please let me know. Thanks From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 24 23:08:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19225; Fri, 24 Mar 95 23:08:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21064; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 22:56:03 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 22:56:00 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alpha.xerox.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21051; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 22:55:58 -0500 Received: from algonquin ([13.2.17.149]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14431(4)>; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 19:55:18 PST X-Sender: mdixon@kanga X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: mdixon@parc.xerox.com (Mike Dixon) Subject: xircom IIps -> catatonic 755CD Message-Id: <95Mar24.195518pst."14431(4)"@alpha.xerox.com> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 19:55:18 PST my xircom IIps pcmcia ethernet card seems to be able to wedge my 755CD. for example, if i try to power the machine up with the xircom card in, 9 times out of 10 it will hang before booting -- even before you can get into easy setup. if i power it up first, and put the card in later, it will usually wedge as soon as the card is put in (cursor doesn't track, power switch doesn't work), but if i keep trying eventually i get lucky -- and then it works perfectly until the next time i power the machine down. needless to say, this is quite a hassle. i'd assume i got a bad card & send it back to xircom, but it worked flawlessly for many weeks in a 750C before i got the 755CD. has anyone else seen a problem like this? has anyone else got a xircom IIps in a 755CD? .mike. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 24 23:22:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19908; Fri, 24 Mar 95 23:22:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22036; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 23:11:05 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 23:11:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from FOSTERS.ROC.SERVTECH.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22022; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 23:11:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 95 05:44:21 EST Message-Id: <9503240544.AA01056@FOSTERS.ROC.SERVTECH.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Randall King" Reply-To: To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Linux? X-Mailer: Is there a FAQ on installing Linux specifically on a Thinkpad? Which boot disks to start with, X-windows configs, etc. Thanks, Randall rjking@fosters.roc.servtech.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 24 23:30:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19948; Fri, 24 Mar 95 23:30:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22544; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 23:20:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 23:20:34 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22525; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 23:20:32 -0500 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id XAA15462; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 23:24:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 23:24:06 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: Mike Dixon Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: xircom IIps -> catatonic 755CD In-Reply-To: <95Mar24.195518pst."14431(4)"@alpha.xerox.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 24 Mar 1995, Mike Dixon wrote: > my xircom IIps pcmcia ethernet card seems to be able to wedge my 755CD. ... > has anyone else seen a problem like this? has anyone else got a xircom IIps > in a 755CD? Just got my boss a Turtle Beach PCMCIA card for her 720 and it locks the system.. under windows. Very bizzare. In dos, EZPlay identifies the card but lists it as not ready. In Windows (if I boot w/o the card, open EzplayWin and put the card in) it identifies the card and locks. Removing it does NOT do any good. Sent them E-mail wednesday night. No response yet. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "I timed it. It took 22 seconds for him to hate you." - Chicago Hope ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Mar 25 17:28:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22796; Sat, 25 Mar 95 17:28:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26898; Sat, 25 Mar 1995 17:16:18 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 25 Mar 1995 17:16:15 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from handel.cs.colostate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26884; Sat, 25 Mar 1995 17:16:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199503252216.RAA26884@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by handel.cs.colostate.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22390; Sat, 25 Mar 95 15:18:04 -0700 From: joseph foss Subject: Request To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sat, 25 Mar 95 15:18:04 MST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Request to Join fossj@handel.cs.colostate.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 26 09:00:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22629; Sun, 26 Mar 95 09:00:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24726; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 08:50:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 08:50:12 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24716; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 08:50:10 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id IAA18720 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 08:51:05 -0500 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id 6E1F70; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 08:50:58 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Bootup errors From: akiro@channel1.com (Akiro) Message-Id: <40.882391.700@channel1.com> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 08:38:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: Bootup errors Hi everyone, At boot up I get the following two separate error lines: EMM386 not installed-XMS manager not present Label Not Found Thanks for any help.... Joseph ........AUTOEXEC.BAT............ C:\DOS\Smartdrv.exe LOADhigh C:\DOS\Mouse.com LOADhigh C:\THINKPAD\IBMAUDIO\VDD\SVAUDIO.EXE PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\NDW;C:\THINKPAD;C:\DOS;C:\THINKPAD SET TEMP=C:\TEMP\ ps2 br n ..........CONFIG.SYS............... DOS=HIGH,umb FILES=30 Buffers=20 STACKS=0,0 DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM 256 I=E000-E5FF X=C000-C0FF DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMAUDIO\DIAG\AUDTEST.SYS /V=10 DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD\TPAUDDD.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 26 16:15:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19032; Sun, 26 Mar 95 16:15:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20095; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 16:09:20 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 16:09:19 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20085; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 16:09:17 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id QAA05503 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 16:10:21 -0500 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id 6E1FA7; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 13:18:51 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Bootup errors From: akiro@channel1.com (Akiro) Message-Id: <40.882559.700@channel1.com> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 13:00:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: Bootup errors Hi everyone, At boot up I get the following two separate error lines: EMM386 not installed-XMS manager not present Label Not Found Thanks for any help.... Joseph ........AUTOEXEC.BAT............ C:\DOS\Smartdrv.exe LOADhigh C:\DOS\Mouse.com LOADhigh C:\THINKPAD\IBMAUDIO\VDD\SVAUDIO.EXE PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\NDW;C:\THINKPAD;C:\DOS;C:\THINKPAD SET TEMP=C:\TEMP\ ps2 br n ..........CONFIG.SYS................ DOS=HIGH,umb FILES=30 Buffers=20 STACKS=0,0 DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM 256 I=E000-E5FF X=C000-C0FF DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMAUDIO\DIAG\AUDTEST.SYS /V=10 DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD\TPAUDDD.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS >Try it in that order >>DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS >>DOS=HIGH,umb >>FILES=30 >>Buffers=20 >>STACKS=0,0 >>DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM 256 I=E000-E5FF X=C000-C0FF >>DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMAUDIO\DIAG\AUDTEST.SYS /V=10 >>DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD\TPAUDDD.SYS >>DEVICEhigh=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS >> >------------------------------------- >Duane Spellecacy >spellppp@pop.corcom.com >------------------------------------- It worked for the first error, but i still get the error: Label not found Thanks Duane, Akiro From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 26 16:15:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19038; Sun, 26 Mar 95 16:15:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20082; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 16:08:49 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 16:08:48 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20071; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 16:08:46 -0500 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id QAA05328 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 16:09:49 -0500 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id 6E1F8B; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 10:51:25 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Bootup errors From: akiro@channel1.com (Akiro) Message-Id: <40.882467.700@channel1.com> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 10:32:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: Bootup errors Hi everyone, At boot up I get the following two separate error lines: EMM386 not installed-XMS manager not present Label Not Found Thanks for any help.... Joseph ........AUTOEXEC.BAT............ C:\DOS\Smartdrv.exe LOADhigh C:\DOS\Mouse.com LOADhigh C:\THINKPAD\IBMAUDIO\VDD\SVAUDIO.EXE PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\NDW;C:\THINKPAD;C:\DOS;C:\THINKPAD SET TEMP=C:\TEMP\ ps2 br n ..........CONFIG.SYS................ DOS=HIGH,umb FILES=30 Buffers=20 STACKS=0,0 DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM 256 I=E000-E5FF X=C000-C0FF DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMAUDIO\DIAG\AUDTEST.SYS /V=10 DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMAUDIO\AUDIODD\TPAUDDD.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Mar 26 23:17:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16724; Sun, 26 Mar 95 23:17:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14923; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 23:03:19 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 23:03:18 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14872; Sun, 26 Mar 1995 23:03:14 -0500 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id MAA31067 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 12:01:13 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199503270401.MAA31067@baijuyi> Subject: Mono video problem To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 12:01:12 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text hi, A line of partial characters (inaccessible by the OS) appears at the lowest part of the screen/display. Partial characters => a line of chars. spliced horizontally. It is not a major problem, but it gets annoying at times and it might further degrade. Any clues and should I send it in for a check/change? (TP360 mono) Cheers. ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 27 03:15:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00497; Mon, 27 Mar 95 03:15:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29266; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 02:27:10 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 02:27:09 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29251; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 02:26:59 -0500 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP) id <15119-0@alf.uib.no>; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 09:26:12 +0200 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.950327092538.352; 27 Mar 95 09:26:10 -200 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 09:33:49 MET Subject: QEMM AND CONFIG.SYS Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) I have tried several combinations to both get hibernation to function 100% and have max memory. Without exluding anything, the "into-hibernation" screen is not working, and the whole system will crash too often (but not so often that it is unusual for a "good working" Windows system.) The present set of exlusions is made from the QEMM/MFT analysis section. It keeps 629K available inside Windows and 632 outside without creating the hibernmation problem and crash rate is low. device=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM ST:M BE:N X=A000-B000 X=E700-ECFF X=EF00-EFFF X=F100-F1FF r:1 This solution is of course dependent on system configuration, I have a simple setup withput PCMCIA, modem, sound etc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Mar 27 11:18:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01428; Mon, 27 Mar 95 11:18:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13293; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 11:00:00 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 10:59:58 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13251; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 10:59:40 -0500 Received: by chorus.chorus.fr; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 17:59:20 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 17:59:20 +0200 From: Stephane Eranian Message-Id: <199503271559.AA09391@chorus.chorus.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Linux & APM BIOS Hello, I wonder if ti was possible to build the equivalent of the PS2.exe command (of course with some restrictions) under Linux. I will be interested in the port of the PS2 PM xx one. I would like to get a complete status report of the state of the system. Desperatly the PS2.exe does not have this one without using the full screen. I miss the technical details of how to access these information in the BIOS. Does someone have any idea ? thanks, -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 28 02:29:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10150; Tue, 28 Mar 95 02:29:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12400; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 23:55:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 23:55:03 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netman.iscs.nus.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12368; Mon, 27 Mar 1995 23:54:57 -0500 Received: from sununx.iscs.nus.sg (ngpohoon) by netman.iscs.nus.sg with SMTP id AA22697 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 28 Mar 1995 12:54:43 +0800 Received: (from ngpohoon@localhost) by sununx.iscs.nus.sg (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA20042; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 12:54:37 +0800 Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 12:54:35 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: Ng Poh Oon To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: tp755cd mouse problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi everyone, i have a problem launching DOS applications from Windows when i use the serial mouse attached to the serial port. i've disabled the TrackPoint, and the mouse worked fine in Windows. But, the system just hang the moment i clicked on PC-DOS prompt or any other DOS applications. Once i re-enabled the TrackPoint III, the DOS apps. worked as normal. Has anybody encountered such a problem ? what do i need to do ? Btw, i'm using TP755CD, and i've enjoyed it very much ! Thanks ! Ng Poh Oon Dept. of Information Systems and Computer Science National University of Singapore ngpohoon@iscs.nus.sg scip4121@leonis.nus.sg From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 28 09:44:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07100; Tue, 28 Mar 95 09:44:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23124; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 09:19:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 09:19:24 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nickel.ucs.indiana.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23108; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 09:19:22 -0500 Received: by nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (5.65c+/10jsm) id AA01867; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 09:19:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 09:19:08 -0500 (EST) From: weng hui Sender: weng hui Reply-To: weng hui Subject: RAM Upgrade for TP750 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi I'm new to the list. Have been using a Thinkpad 750Cs with 4MB RAM and 340MB HD for almost a year. Would like to know if anyone has upgraded with a RAM module from non-IBM suppliers. If so, are there any problems that one should take note of ? The price difference between IBM and a mail-order company I've contacted for a 8MB upgrade is about $100.00. Would appreciate suggestions for reliable mail order companies and also whether a 16MB upgrade would be better. Thanks Weng From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 28 11:39:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15100; Tue, 28 Mar 95 11:39:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04305; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 11:22:31 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 11:22:29 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04295; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 11:22:25 -0500 From: Received: from PC1-Message_Server by BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU with WordPerfect_Office; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 11:21:31 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 11:18:07 -0500 To: FADGENG@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, MCHENRY@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month InfoWorld At Deadline 3/27/95 "" IBM late next month will upgrade its ThinkPad line with a model offering a 10.4 inch 600-by-800 resolution active matrix screen, 75-MHz Pentium processor, and Lithium-ion Battery, said sources close to the company. The 755CX will cost the same as the 755ce, which has a list price of $7,499 and a $5,936 average street price. The 755C, 755CE, and 755CD models will be discontinued when the 755CX ships, the sources said. the company also will offer a $1,449 Pentium upgrade to owners of the other ThinkPad 75 models when the 755CX ships. "" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 28 12:46:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19422; Tue, 28 Mar 95 12:46:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09495; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 12:26:40 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 12:26:38 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from scunix1.harvard.edu.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09475; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 12:26:36 -0500 Message-Id: <9503281725.AA16375@scunix1.harvard.edu.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@fas-pop.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 12:25:15 -0500 To: From: chan4@fas.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >InfoWorld At Deadline 3/27/95 >"" IBM late next month will upgrade its ThinkPad line with a model offering >a 10.4 inch 600-by-800 resolution active matrix screen, 75-MHz Pentium >processor, and Lithium-ion Battery, said sources close to the company. >The 755CX will cost the same as the 755ce, which has a list price of >$7,499 and a $5,936 average street price. The 755C, 755CE, and 755CD >models will be discontinued when the 755CX ships, the sources said. >the company also will offer a $1,449 Pentium upgrade to owners of the >other ThinkPad 75 models when the 755CX ships. "" Is that upgrade for 755 only, or 750 and 755? :) (Was that a typo? There's olay a Thinkpad 75 in the last line!) -- Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com chan4@fas.harvard.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Mar 28 22:19:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29110; Tue, 28 Mar 95 22:19:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19062; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 21:55:17 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 21:55:16 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19041; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 21:55:14 -0500 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8660) id <01HOOHFCFIWG003IDJ@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 18:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 18:56:05 -0700 (PDT) From: ANNELISE ANDERSON Subject: Dialing Modem To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HOOHFCGLHE003IDJ@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" X-Vms-Cc: ANDRSN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I'm helping a friend with a ThinkPad 755 CE, built in fax-modem. I've figured out the FAXWORKS pretty well, but can't get Windows Terminal applet to dial the modem. Is it on a com port, or what? I tried both COM 2 and COM 1... Any suggestions appreciated Annelise From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 29 07:21:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04847; Wed, 29 Mar 95 07:21:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01092; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 07:01:37 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 07:01:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01077; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 07:01:30 -0500 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id OAA28974 (8.6.9/); Wed, 29 Mar 1995 14:01:23 +0200 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 14:01:23 +0200 Message-Id: <199503291201.OAA28974@asimov.cnam.fr> To: eranian@chorus.fr, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux & APM BIOS re: PS2.EXE equivalent under linux... Stephane, have you tried running PS2.EXE under the linux dos emulator in a different virtual console? Edmund. PS. did my direct mail to eranian@chorus.fr get lost? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 29 07:39:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06439; Wed, 29 Mar 95 07:39:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02010; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 07:27:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 07:27:56 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mfmail.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02000; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 07:27:52 -0500 Received: from rstwdev.mfltd.co.uk by mfmail.mfltd.co.uk with SMTP (5.65/25-eef) id AA08398; Wed, 29 Mar 95 13:25:52 GMT Received: by rstwdev (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/1.0) id AA25035; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 13:25:10 GMT Message-Id: <9503291325.AA25035@rstwdev> From: nu@mfltd.co.uk (Nigel Uprichard) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 95 13:25:05 GMT To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Upgrading to OS2 Warp I am thinking of upgrading from OS2 2.1 to OS2 Warp. I have heard that there were problems with Warp on Thinkpads (I have a 755C) when it was released. Some of the problems that I have heard about are: 1) Warp & Power on passwords dont work correctly 2) Screen corruption Can anyone who is using WARP tell me how they are getting on with it. Thanks. -- Nigel Uprichard Ext. 5389 Testware Development Email : nu@mfltd.co.uk IBMMAIL : GBHFFZLJ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 29 09:59:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15248; Wed, 29 Mar 95 09:59:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12471; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 09:45:39 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 09:45:36 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12447; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 09:45:33 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rtz0D-0004tgC; Wed, 29 Mar 95 08:45 CST Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rtz0C-0002ndC; Wed, 29 Mar 95 08:45 CST Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rtz0B-0002wvC; Wed, 29 Mar 95 08:45 CST Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Upgrading to OS2 Warp To: nu@mfltd.co.uk (Nigel Uprichard) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 08:45:42 -0600 (CST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9503291325.AA25035@rstwdev> from "Nigel Uprichard" at Mar 29, 95 01:25:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > 1) Warp & Power on passwords dont work correctly I assume that this is still a problem.... I don't bother with a password. > 2) Screen corruption This appears to only have applied to mono and dual scan based systems. I have a 750C and the only major problems were: - install mapped the Dock II's scsi irq on top of the Dock II's PCMCIA status change irq (This is documented only in the thinkpad's files. You must change the irq for the second socket controller via a switch on the socket services line.) - Crystal Semi driver refused to keep YOUR hardware based volume setting. This is fixed in csd1, but issues with the Dock II remain. The work around is to turn the volume on the machine to zero when docked. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 29 11:07:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19392; Wed, 29 Mar 95 11:07:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19511; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 10:47:11 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 10:47:09 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from portal.chevron.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19484; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 10:46:59 -0500 Received: from lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com by portal.chevron.com with SMTP id AA06393 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Wed, 29 Mar 1995 07:46:42 -0800 Received: by lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA15573; Wed, 29 Mar 95 07:46:17 -0800 Received: from ION.ION.CHEVRON.COM by SSW1.ION.CHEVRON.COM (Soft-Switch Central V4L380P1); 29 Mar 1995 07:43:07 PST Message-Id: Date: 29 Mar 95 07:45:49 PST From: "Davenport, Clyde" Subject: FW: Dialing Modem To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Comment: CPLAN077 CRDA 03-29-95 07:36:00 SSW1 From: Davenport, Clyde -CRDA To: OPEN ADDRESSING SERVI-OPENADDR Subject: FW: Dialing Modem Date: 1995-03-29 07:27 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On my 755CD the Mwave modem is com 2 by default. That can be changed with the Thinkpad Setup however. Also be sure to start the Mwave modem or the Terminal applet will not work. Faxworks starts the Mwave Discriminator when you start Faxworks unlike Terminal Emulation Programs. Good Luck From: OWNERTP7 To: CRDA Subject: Dialing Modem Date: Tuesday, March 28, 1995 9:24PM To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Dialing Modem I'm helping a friend with a ThinkPad 755 CE, built in fax-modem. I've figured out the FAXWORKS pretty well, but can't get Windows Terminal applet to dial the modem. Is it on a com port, or what? I tried both COM 2 and COM 1... Any suggestions appreciated Annelise From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 29 11:16:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20134; Wed, 29 Mar 95 11:16:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20129; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 10:53:06 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 10:53:05 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from larry.infi.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20118; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 10:53:03 -0500 Received: by larry.infi.net (8.6.10/Server1.12) id KAA03007; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 10:53:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 10:53:15 -0500 (EST) From: James Biggerstaff Subject: Re: Upgrading to OS2 Warp To: Nigel Uprichard Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9503291325.AA25035@rstwdev> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Mar 1995, Nigel Uprichard wrote: > > Can anyone who is using WARP tell me how they are getting on with it. > Works very well on my 360C. I think the Thinkpad problems are confined to older models. Preparing floppies from the CD-ROM and installing from floppies is tiresome, however. Jim Biggerstaff jimb@infi.net Norfolk, Virginia, USA ======================================================================== These profound insights are NOT freeware. If found useful, please send money within 30 days. ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 29 12:29:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25124; Wed, 29 Mar 95 12:29:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26748; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 12:04:47 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 12:04:45 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26738; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 12:04:43 -0500 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA01370; Wed, 29 Mar 95 10:04:05 MST Date: Wed, 29 Mar 95 10:04:05 MST From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9503291704.AA01370@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading to OS2 Warp > Some of the problems that I have heard about are: > 1) Warp & Power on passwords dont work correctly > 2) Screen corruption Re: 1) Power-on password "works", its just that it breaks the suspend/resume feature. What I found was that my machine suspends OK, but it will lock hard upon trying to resume. I kinda like Scott Stratmoen's approach: just don't bother with the password and all is well. 2) No screen corruption on a 360C. As mentioned previously, maybe this only affects monochrome models. Final note: All-in-all, I'm very pleased with Warp. With previous versions of OS/2, I always seemed to find one reason or another to go back to DOS/Windows; this time, however, has been different. Warp is a keeper... Good luck. _________________________________________________________________ Karl E. Yeanoplos | kyeanopl@den.mmc.com Martin Marietta Corp. | P.O. Box 179/M.S. 5451 | Denver, CO. 80201 | key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 29 12:50:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27056; Wed, 29 Mar 95 12:50:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28952; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 12:27:38 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 12:27:32 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from internet-mail.ford.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28936; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 12:27:30 -0500 Received: from sun1.apo.ford.com (sun1old.apo.ford.com) by internet-mail.ford.com with SMTP id AA17579 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Wed, 29 Mar 1995 12:27:23 -0500 Received: from ren0010.so.ford.com by sun1.apo.ford.com (5.0/Ford 2.0) via id AA00481; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 12:20:10 +0500 Received: from REN0010/PMAIL by ren0010.so.ford.com (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 29 Mar 95 12:25:39 +1100 Received: from PMAIL by REN0010 (Mercury 1.11); Wed, 29 Mar 95 12:25:15 +1100 From: "Adam Wilkinson" To: ANNELISE ANDERSON , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 12:25:13 EST Subject: Re: Dialing Modem Reply-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Confirm-Reading-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <25CABF25DC6@ren0010.so.ford.com> > Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 18:56:05 -0700 (PDT) > From: ANNELISE ANDERSON > Subject: Dialing Modem > To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > I'm helping a friend with a ThinkPad 755 CE, built in fax-modem. I've > figured out the FAXWORKS pretty well, but can't get Windows Terminal > applet to dial the modem. Is it on a com port, or what? I tried both > COM 2 and COM 1... > > Any suggestions appreciated > > Annelise > Is the MWave Modem 14400 program running? It must be running for the modem to function. Go to the MWave group and execute it, then minimize it. -- Adam Lee Wilkinson Portable Computing Technology Specialist Ford Motor Co. - Marketing & Sales Systems awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 29 14:42:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05180; Wed, 29 Mar 95 14:42:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27861; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 12:15:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 12:15:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kksys.skypoint.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27811; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 12:15:35 -0500 Received: from maven by kksys.skypoint.net with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0ru1L1-0001y0C; Wed, 29 Mar 95 11:15 CST Received: by maven.mn.org (Smail3.1.28.1 #12) id m0ru0Dw-000GgpC; Wed, 29 Mar 95 10:04 CST Message-Id: From: jay@maven.mn.org (Jay Christopherson) Subject: 750c and KIT modem with Card Services To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 10:03:59 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Hello, I have been given an AT&T Keep In Touch Card (14.4/14.4fax) PCMCIA modem card and have been trying to get it working with my (super) thinkpad 750c. This modem is listed in the pcmcia.crd file as being tested successfully with the IBM Auto Configurator and OS/2 Auto Configurator. Everything seems to be the stock configuration... EZplay recognizes the card as a modem on com2 (ATT Paradyne KeepInTouch Card 3761 C01.69.30) But when I try to use any communication program, the modem never responds back. versions: Socket Service 1.24 Card Services 2.10 dicrmv01 ?? Power Manager 2.20 Dos Power 1.0 Autodrv 1.07 Vesa 1.07 Windows for workgroups EZplay for windows 1.12 Any assistance or suggestions on how to get this working (without using the kit config point enabler) would be appreciated. -- ============================================================================== Jay A. Christopherson UUCP: rosevax!maven!jay Internet: jay@maven.MN.ORG ============================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 29 17:41:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18986; Wed, 29 Mar 95 17:41:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24616; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 17:27:48 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 17:27:46 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24606; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 17:27:44 -0500 Received: from gjacobs (gjacobs.qualcomm.com [129.46.122.39]) by qualcomm.com (8.6.10/QC-MAIN-2.1) with SMTP id OAA06361 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 14:27:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199503292227.OAA06361@qualcomm.com> X-Sender: gjacobs@129.46.50.10 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 14:27:12 -0800 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: gjacobs@qualcomm.com (Gary E. Jacobs) Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month At 11:18 AM 3/28/95 -0500, CAHILLRE@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU wrote: >InfoWorld At Deadline 3/27/95 >"" IBM late next month will upgrade its ThinkPad line with a model offering >a 10.4 inch 600-by-800 resolution active matrix screen, 75-MHz Pentium >processor, and Lithium-ion Battery, said sources close to the company. >The 755CX will cost the same as the 755ce, which has a list price of >$7,499 and a $5,936 average street price. The 755C, 755CE, and 755CD >models will be discontinued when the 755CX ships, the sources said. >the company also will offer a $1,449 Pentium upgrade to owners of the >other ThinkPad 75 models when the 755CX ships. "" > Is the Pentium upgrade worthwhile or are there other upgrades, bus architecture, etc., that make upgrade not worth doing? Gary Jacobs gjacobs@qualcomm.com (619)658-4069 voice (619)658-2120 fax From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 29 17:52:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19626; Wed, 29 Mar 95 17:52:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25475; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 17:36:08 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 17:36:06 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from get.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25462; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 17:36:04 -0500 Received: from mail.hooked.net (sfsp103.slip.net [204.160.88.151]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA27876 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 14:35:54 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 14:35:54 -0800 Message-Id: <199503292235.OAA27876@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Upgrading to OS2 Warp Just to add one more data point: on my 755cs/75 warp is running great, no screen or poweron password problems (I use the poweron password, and it works correctly both on startup and after a suspend, go figure..) I am switching back to win95, but for other reasons, if you're using os/2 on your 'pad now, by all means check out warp.. ______________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home I don't recycle. I'm a consumer, damn it, I consume From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Mar 29 20:34:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06132; Wed, 29 Mar 95 20:34:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10160; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 20:13:34 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 20:13:33 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po7.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10150; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 20:13:30 -0500 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po7.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA19965 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 20:13:27 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 20:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix17.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 20:12:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix17.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 20:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix17.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix17.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 20:12:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <8jSUKNa00YUtM0n5sS@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 20:12:57 -0500 (EST) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month In-Reply-To: <199503292227.OAA06361@qualcomm.com> References: <199503292227.OAA06361@qualcomm.com> I'd like to know if I can upgrade my 755cs to this 800x600 active matrix display-just the display is the display able to show more than 256 colors at once? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sang Kim Je veux que tout le monde sache que j'aime sk6k@andrew.cmu.edu Alexis Hayes, la princesse de l'ecole de Denver (WOW, quelle femme!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Mar 30 03:22:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02658; Thu, 30 Mar 95 03:22:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07127; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 03:03:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 03:03:55 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cssu100.cs.ust.hk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07112; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 03:03:42 -0500 Received: (from ejd@localhost) by cssu100.cs.ust.hk (8.6.10/8.6.9) id QAA02240 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 30 Mar 1995 16:01:34 +0800 Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 16:01:34 +0800 From: "Dr. E. Joseph Derrick" Message-Id: <199503300801.QAA02240@cssu100.cs.ust.hk> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: IBM PN 92G7263/ 16MEG DIMM for 755? Hi everyone, Does anyone know if the following description fits a 16MEG DIMM for TP755 machines? (I think perhaps not, since the options list indicates the 16MEG DIMM is PN 84G2153). IBM PN 92G7263, 2.35 inches long, 1.25 inches high, 72pin gold-plated, 70 ns, 3.3v non-parity. I have checked once with IBM Distributor who can't find this part number and intend to check again... but I thought I'd see if anyone on the list had any ideas before I decide to purchase this. Thanks much, Joe From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 31 09:21:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26672; Fri, 31 Mar 95 09:21:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23794; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 08:48:56 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 08:48:42 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23781; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 08:48:40 -0500 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa24212; 31 Mar 95 13:49 GMT-60:00 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa06773; 31 Mar 95 13:49 GMT-60:00 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755CE & Warp & Ethernet Date: Fri, 31 Mar 95 13:46:56 BST Message-Id: <9503311346.aa20678@hipass.filct.com> Has anyone made a 755CE with Warp drive an IBM Credit Card Ethernet adapter? If so, could you possibly let me know your config & driver versions? The local helpline suggest: DEVICE=c:\thinkpad\pcmcia.sys DEVICE=c:\thinkpad\vpcmcia.sys DEVICE=c:\thinkpad\com.sys DEVICE=c:\autodrv2.sys c:\thinkpad\autodrv2.ini ... REM Netware stuff, incl PCMDMCS.SYS ... DEVICE=c:\thinkpad\$icpmos2.sys DEVICE=c:\thinkpad\ibm2ss01.sys /c1=9 DEVICE=c:\thinkpad\icrmu01.sys /ma=c100-cfff,d100-dfff 1) pcmcia.sys seems to reside in \os2, not \thinkpad. I've checked the file, and it is the same as the one on the features floppy. 2) ibm2ss01.sys refuses to load (SYS1201). The flags look wrong anyway - /c1 is supposed to be for a docking station. I've tried it with no flags which is supposed to default to IRQ 15, but no luck. 3) icrmu01.sys traps with C0000005, though I guess that may be to do with the failure of (2) above. TIA Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 31 10:03:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00451; Fri, 31 Mar 95 10:03:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29472; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 09:50:42 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 09:50:40 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29450; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 09:50:38 -0500 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id GAA00524; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 06:50:35 -0800 Message-Id: <199503311450.GAA00524@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 95 06:50:19 EST From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: Buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: ****Magazine Calls Windows 95 "Flawed" 03/27/95 On Thu, 30 Mar 1995 19:10:33 -0800 you wrote: > >>> SAN MATEO, CALIFORNIA, U.S.A., 1995 MAR 27 (NB) -- A weekly >>> computer publication says it has found Windows 95, Microsoft >>> Corp.'s (NASDAQ: MSFT) next generation combination user interface >>> and operating system, "flawed" to the point it will be of use only >>> to home users. >>> >>> According to Nicholas Petreley, executive editor of >>> reviews at InfoWorld, the long-awaited and several-times-delayed >>> Windows 95 has such severe problems that its functionality is >>> limited for business use. The InfoWorld editor said the problem is >>> that Windows 95 runs out of system resources when running >>> multi-threaded 32-bit applications. >>> >>> If the magazine is correct, that could be a serious >>> obstacle to widespread corporate adoption of the program, which is >>> now scheduled to launch in August 1995, since the ability to run >>> 32-bit applications is touted as one of its major advantages. >>> >>> In an interview with Newsbytes Petreley called Windows 95 "a >>> disaster" if it ships in its current form. "I fear that unless >>> Microsoft goes back to the drawing board on this operating system, >>> only light home users will get anything out of it," writes Petreley >>> in this week's issue of the publication. >>> >>> The problem, according to the editor, is that Windows 95 is a >>> 32-bit wraparound on top of Windows 3.1., so Microsoft is running >>> into a lot of the limitations of Windows 3.1 due to the company's >>> desire to make Windows 95 backwards-compatible. "They managed to >>> move some of the information out of the (graphics) GDI heap into the >>> 32-bit address base but they haven't really done it successfully >>> with the user heap, so they are keeping this thing called the >>> Windows class, which is really the basic building block of all >>> Windows objects and windows. That information is still being kept >>> in the 64K user heap in conventional memory." >>> >>> Petreley told Newsbytes the result of that architecture is that >>> when you place a folder-oriented multi-threaded desktop on top of >>> it and want to open a number of different folders, you fill up that >>> relatively small user heap very rapidly. "I ran out of resources >>> just running Microsoft Word and the Microsoft Network at the same >>> time," he told Newsbytes. Petreley said he was running Windows 95 on >>> a Pentium-based PC with 32 megabytes (MB) of memory. >>> >>> Petreley said Microsoft hand-delivered a fix to InfoWorld that moved >>> the Windows class out of the user heap and into the 32-bit address >>> space. "But it breaks things left and right, including 32-bit >>> applications. Microsoft Network crashes and Word for Windows >>> crashes," he said. >>> >>> The Microsoft Press Computer Dictionary Second Edition defines the >>> heap as "a portion of memory reserved for a program to use for the >>> temporary storage of data structures whose existence or size cannot >>> be determined until the program is running. The program can request >>> free memory from the heap to hold such elements, use it as >>> necessary, and later free the memory." >>> >>> A call to Microsoft in an attempt get that company's comment on this >>> story had not been returned by press deadline. >>> >>> (Jim Mallory/19950327/Press contact: Microsoft, 206-882-8080; >>> Infoworld, 415-572-7341) >> > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >| "Pearl Harbor will never be attacked from the air." | >| - Adm. Charles H. McMorris, U.S. Navy, (Dec. 3, 1941) | >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Roger J. Buffington 1L, USC Law Center AB6WR Go Trojans!! . From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 31 12:13:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12297; Fri, 31 Mar 95 12:13:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11670; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 11:48:59 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 11:48:57 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from FOSTERS.ROC.SERVTECH.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11651; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 11:48:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 95 11:50:30 EST Message-Id: <9503311150.AA13904@FOSTERS.ROC.SERVTECH.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Randall King" Reply-To: To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Supervisor password. X-Mailer: Hello all, Does anyone know if the supervisor password is available on the TP360's? I haven't gotten one yet, but the company I work for is getting them. I just want to know if they can be set up, and if it is part of the EZsetup stuff. Anyone know? Thanks, Randall rjking@fosters.roc.servtech.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 31 17:31:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11332; Fri, 31 Mar 95 17:31:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12391; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 17:14:58 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 17:14:53 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fosters.roc.servtech.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12374; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 17:14:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 95 17:16:28 EST Message-Id: <9503311716.AA20932@fosters.roc.servtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Randall King" Reply-To: To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Supervisor password. X-Mailer: In reply to: > >>Hello all, >>Does anyone know if the supervisor password is available on the TP360's? >>I haven't gotten one yet, but the company I work for is getting them. I >>just want to know if they can be set up, and if it is part of the >>EZsetup stuff. Anyone know? >> >>Thanks, >>Randall >>rjking@fosters.roc.servtech.com >> >> >> >Yes it does. Now I mean the Supervisor password. Not the plain-jane start-up passwords. The old 700's had 2 power-on's. The personal one, and one for the supervisors. I am looking for the one that they can set up once for the whole set to 'fix' the machines when the users forget their personal passwords. :) Thanks... > >|===============================================================| >|Kris D. Williams | >|Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | >|Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | >|My opinions are my own (really!) | >|===============================================================| > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Mar 31 18:41:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19321; Fri, 31 Mar 95 18:41:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18261; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 18:24:14 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 18:24:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thumper.pomona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18251; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 18:24:11 -0500 Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #9731) id <01HOSGWXQH288WW1X6@POMONA.EDU>; Fri, 31 Mar 1995 15:24:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 15:24:08 -0800 (PST) From: dean quinley Subject: 755Cs Sound System To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HOSGWXQIYA8WW1X6@POMONA.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I have a 755Cs. does anyone know if IBM has developed a device driver that allows SB emulation in DOS protected mode? right now, my driver allows SB DOS emulation but it doesn't support it in protected mode and this really limits it. any help appreciated. thanks in advance. paul From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 1 10:15:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16231; Sat, 1 Apr 95 10:15:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01113; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:53 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:52 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01092; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:50 -0500 Received: from poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu (poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.49]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA24500; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:14:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199504011414.JAA24500@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 09:12:16 -0500 To: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen), nu@mfltd.co.uk (Nigel Uprichard) From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: Upgrading to OS2 Warp Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) At 08:45 AM 3/29/95 -0600, Scott Stratmoen wrote: >- Crystal Semi driver refused to keep YOUR hardware based volume > setting. > > This is fixed in csd1, but issues with the Dock II remain. The work > around is to turn the volume on the machine to zero when docked. >-- >Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com > | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) > To get the Crystal Semi driver to work, get the second FixPak. Insert the third disk, open a OS/2 window, type unpack a:\fix\os2.1\cs4231.sy_ c:\mmos2 That will solve the problem. <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 1 10:15:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16232; Sat, 1 Apr 95 10:15:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01099; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:51 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:49 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01080; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:47 -0500 Received: from poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu (poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.49]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA24497; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:14:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199504011414.JAA24497@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 09:12:11 -0500 To: nu@mfltd.co.uk (Nigel Uprichard), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: Upgrading to OS2 Warp At 01:25 PM 3/29/95 GMT, Nigel Uprichard wrote: > >I am thinking of upgrading from OS2 2.1 to OS2 Warp. I have heard that >there were problems with Warp on Thinkpads (I have a 755C) when it was >released. > >Some of the problems that I have heard about are: > >1) Warp & Power on passwords dont work correctly >2) Screen corruption > >Can anyone who is using WARP tell me how they are getting on with it. > >Thanks. > >-- >Nigel Uprichard >Ext. 5389 >Testware Development >Email : nu@mfltd.co.uk >IBMMAIL : GBHFFZLJ > Warp works fine on Thinkpad (I have a 750C)...but make sure you get the SECOND FixPak. My experience told me that after 'servicing' your OS with this FixPak, the audio driver STILL DOES NOT work properly. you have to manually unpack the driver. to do this, try the following: Inset the THIRD FixPak disk into your TP. open an OS/2 window, and type unpack a:\fix\os2.1\cs4231.sy_ c:\mmos2 That should solved the problem. Also, no passwork or suspend problem. Go ahead with Warp. <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 1 10:15:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16241; Sat, 1 Apr 95 10:15:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01123; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:55 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:54 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01103; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:51 -0500 Received: from poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu (poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.49]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA24494; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:14:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199504011414.JAA24494@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 09:12:06 -0500 To: , FADGENG@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, MCHENRY@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month At 11:18 AM 3/28/95 -0500, CAHILLRE@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU wrote: >InfoWorld At Deadline 3/27/95 >"" IBM late next month will upgrade its ThinkPad line with a model offering >a 10.4 inch 600-by-800 resolution active matrix screen, 75-MHz Pentium >processor, and Lithium-ion Battery, said sources close to the company. >The 755CX will cost the same as the 755ce, which has a list price of >$7,499 and a $5,936 average street price. The 755C, 755CE, and 755CD >models will be discontinued when the 755CX ships, the sources said. >the company also will offer a $1,449 Pentium upgrade to owners of the >other ThinkPad 75 models when the 755CX ships. "" > > Any idea if it is using PCI bus or not? <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 1 10:16:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16245; Sat, 1 Apr 95 10:16:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01104; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:52 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:50 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01082; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:59:48 -0500 Received: from poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu (poncho-slip12.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.49]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA24491; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:14:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199504011414.JAA24491@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 09:12:00 -0500 To: weng hui , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: RAM Upgrade for TP750 At 09:19 AM 3/28/95 -0500, weng hui wrote: > >Hi > >I'm new to the list. Have been using a Thinkpad 750Cs with 4MB RAM and >340MB HD for almost a year. > >Would like to know if anyone has upgraded with a RAM module from non-IBM >suppliers. If so, are there any problems that one should take note of ? > >The price difference between IBM and a mail-order company I've contacted >for a 8MB upgrade is about $100.00. >Would appreciate suggestions for reliable mail order companies and also >whether a 16MB upgrade would be better. > > Thanks > > Weng > > I also have a 750C for about a yr now. I added 16 MB of RAM when I first bought it. I got it from a non-IBM dealer, but can't recall exactly which one. What I want to tell you is that, my friend bought a 8MB RAM module from LA Trade, and has caused some major incompatibility. LA Trade offers really low prices, but they might not be 100% compatible. From what I hear from most people, Kingston seems to be highly recommended. Hope this helps. <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 1 10:31:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18304; Sat, 1 Apr 95 10:31:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02893; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 10:22:21 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 10:22:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02873; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 10:22:11 -0500 Received: from ppp229.basegrp.com (ppp229.basegrp.com [204.248.92.229]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA28378; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 06:37:59 -0600 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 06:37:59 -0600 Message-Id: <199504011237.GAA28378@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basegrp.com (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: Supervisor password. At 05:16 PM 3/31/95 EST, rjking@fosters.roc.servtech.com wrote: >In reply to: >> >>>Hello all, >>>Does anyone know if the supervisor password is available on the >TP360's? >>>I haven't gotten one yet, but the company I work for is getting them. >I >>>just want to know if they can be set up, and if it is part of the >>>EZsetup stuff. Anyone know? >>> >>>Thanks, >>>Randall >>>rjking@fosters.roc.servtech.com >>> >>> >>> >>Yes it does. > >Now I mean the Supervisor password. Not the plain-jane start-up >passwords. The old 700's had 2 power-on's. The personal one, and one >for the supervisors. I am looking for the one that they can set up once >for the whole set to 'fix' the machines when the users forget their >personal passwords. :) > My understanding is that the 360 acts just like the 750's as far as password protection. You access Easy Setup the same way (alt+F1 at power on) and have all of the same functions. I will verify that and if I find something different, I'll get back to you. For those of you that may have placed my old address in your nicknmae file, please note that I have changed providers. OLD:incomm@ibm.net NEW:krisdw@basenet.net |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 1 19:34:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13931; Sat, 1 Apr 95 19:34:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00575; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 19:24:15 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 19:24:13 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00565; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 19:24:11 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA04803 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Sat, 1 Apr 1995 19:24:01 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 19:22:02 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: Randall King Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Supervisor password. In-Reply-To: <9503311716.AA20932@fosters.roc.servtech.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 31 Mar 1995, Randall King wrote: > Now I mean the Supervisor password. Not the plain-jane start-up > passwords. The old 700's had 2 power-on's. The personal one, and one > for the supervisors. I am looking for the one that they can set up once > for the whole set to 'fix' the machines when the users forget their > personal passwords. :) The supervisor password is for getting access to the setup, the regular power on password, if forgotten, can be erased by a simple hardware method which does not require you to know the supervisor password. There is no override for the supervisor password or the Hard disk password if those are forgotten. Josh Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 1 23:34:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22775; Sat, 1 Apr 95 23:34:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12250; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 23:23:16 -0500 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 23:23:14 EST Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12240; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 23:23:12 -0500 Received: from ppp227.basegrp.com (ppp227.basegrp.com [204.248.92.227]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA10329 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 22:22:03 -0600 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 22:22:03 -0600 Message-Id: <199504020422.WAA10329@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basegrp.com (Kris D. Williams) Subject: 360 supervisor password I did a little research on the 360 password and found the following according to the user's guide. As I said earlier, you access the password via Easy Setup just like the 75X BUT, you only have POWER-ON AND HDD - there is NO SUPERVISOR. Hope I didn't confuse anybody earlier. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 06:19:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16127; Sun, 2 Apr 95 06:19:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07069; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 06:10:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 06:10:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07054; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 06:10:15 -0400 Received: from DialupEudora (ts1.noc.drexel.edu [129.25.12.13]) by dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (8.6.11/8.6.4) with SMTP id GAA03592 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 06:10:03 -0400 X-Sender: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 05:21:27 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mark Bell) Subject: Certified/working Ethernet cards for 755C What is a list of the Ethernet cards out there that have worked with minimal ease on the TP 755C? I see 3Com is selling their Etherlink III PCMCIA card at a special promo price of $99. What does IBM say will work? Personal experiences? Thanks. .....That's right, No friggin' sig!........ * Mark Bell * 800 College Drive #104 * Vineland, NJ 08360 * 1-609-327-4029 * From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 11:19:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25246; Sun, 2 Apr 95 11:19:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20698; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:07:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:07:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20672; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:07:15 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA24169; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 08:07:12 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA28817; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 08:07:11 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504021507.IAA28817@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Certified/working Ethernet cards for 755C To: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mark Bell) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 08:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Mark Bell" at Apr 2, 95 05:21:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > What is a list of the Ethernet cards out there that have worked with > minimal ease on the TP 755C? I see 3Com is selling their Etherlink III > PCMCIA card at a special promo price of $99. What does IBM say will work? > Personal experiences? Thanks. From personal experience, I can tell you it works just fine (in a 750C anyway--I'm quite certain that there is little difference). Funny though--I bought it at this "special promo price" something like 6 to 9 months ago. Pretty long "promotion", eh?! Relatively fast little bugger too, if you can believe the 3Com propaganda that comes with it. :) Just one caveat--it works using "point enabler" software which can conflict with your normal PCMCIA socket services driver (if you need it for another card in another slot at the same time). Also, one person on the list (whose name escapes me--sorry!) was disappointed to find that the 3Com card would not work in the PCMCIA capable IBM port replicator unit. I believe he informed IBM of this problem and they came up with a fix of some kind. I'll leave it to him to tell about the details again. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 12:04:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00437; Sun, 2 Apr 95 12:04:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23427; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:56:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:56:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23417; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:56:00 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144040>; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:55:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: Wai-Shan Lam's message as of Apr 1, 10:19am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month Message-Id: <95Apr2.115549edt.144040@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:55:48 -0400 At 11:18 AM 3/28/95 -0500, CAHILLRE@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU wrote: >InfoWorld At Deadline 3/27/95 >"" IBM late next month will upgrade its ThinkPad line with a model offering >a 10.4 inch 600-by-800 resolution active matrix screen, 75-MHz Pentium >processor, and Lithium-ion Battery, said sources close to the company. >The 755CX will cost the same as the 755ce, which has a list price of >$7,499 and a $5,936 average street price. The 755C, 755CE, and 755CD >models will be discontinued when the 755CX ships, the sources said. >the company also will offer a $1,449 Pentium upgrade to owners of the >other ThinkPad 75 models when the 755CX ships. "" Was a shipping date suggested for the CX? Given IBM's shoddy behaviour regarding the 755CD product, I will henceforth disbelieve anything I hear from IBM until they produce it in quantity. On a more technical note, does the higher density display go back to 8-bit colour? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 12:37:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08059; Sun, 2 Apr 95 12:37:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25373; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 12:28:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 12:28:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25327; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 12:28:54 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rvSWX-0004trC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 11:29 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rvSWV-0002nbC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 11:29 CDT Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rvSWU-000BgzC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 11:29 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Upgrading to OS2 Warp To: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:29:10 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <199504011414.JAA24500@dark.brown.edu> from "Wai-Shan Lam" at Apr 1, 95 09:12:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > To get the Crystal Semi driver to work, get the second FixPak. Insert the > third disk, open a OS/2 window, type > > unpack a:\fix\os2.1\cs4231.sy_ c:\mmos2 > > That will solve the problem. Sorry. The driver should disable the internal sound when docked. CSD1 didn't resolve this problem. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 14:35:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26650; Sun, 2 Apr 95 14:35:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00942; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:28:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:28:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00932; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:28:45 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.36] (mac36.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA03345; Sun, 2 Apr 95 14:28:39 EDT Message-Id: <9504021828.AA03345@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:36:08 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: Certified/working Ethernet cards for 755C >> What is a list of the Ethernet cards out there that have worked with >> minimal ease on the TP 755C? I see 3Com is selling their Etherlink III >> PCMCIA card at a special promo price of $99. What does IBM say will work? >> Personal experiences? Thanks. > > From personal experience, I can tell you it works just fine >(in a 750C anyway--I'm quite certain that there is little difference). >Funny though--I bought it at this "special promo price" something like >6 to 9 months ago. Pretty long "promotion", eh?! People were discussing this promo price on the list since just after the card first came out! I was foolish enough to pay list. > Just one caveat--it works using "point enabler" software which can >conflict with your normal PCMCIA socket services driver (if you need it for >another card in another slot at the same time). I don't know about the latest drivers, but with the original drivers this could be worked around through extra software (using valuable memory) and careful allocation of memory. It's plug-n-play under Warp. I'm not sure, but I think they may have finally adopted card services under windows as well. The Warp driver hangs on boot if the card isn't in place. This is annoying, but tolerable. They claim to be working on a solution. Judging from messages on this list, it seems like people have been having good luck with IBM cards under both windows and OS2. > > Also, one person on the list (whose name escapes me--sorry!) >was disappointed to find that the 3Com card would not work in the PCMCIA >capable IBM port replicator unit. I believe he informed IBM of this >problem and they came up with a fix of some kind. I'll leave it to >him to tell about the details again. There is an upgraded driver, denoted on the 3com bulletin board with an 'n'. I would suspect that they include this with cards the're shipping now. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 14:37:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26659; Sun, 2 Apr 95 14:37:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01143; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:32:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:32:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01133; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:32:40 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA28371 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sun, 2 Apr 1995 13:32:23 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199504021832.AA28371@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: 3Com Ethernet card To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 13:32:36 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199504021507.IAA28817@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Apr 2, 95 08:07:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > minimal ease on the TP 755C? I see 3Com is selling their Etherlink III > > PCMCIA card at a special promo price of $99. What does IBM say will work? > > Personal experiences? Thanks. > > From personal experience, I can tell you it works just fine On a related note, did anyone manage to get the 3Com card to work under OS/2? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 22:21:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13649; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:21:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25455; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 22:10:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 22:10:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25440; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 22:10:36 -0400 Received: from DialupEudora (ts1.noc.drexel.edu [129.25.12.13]) by dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (8.6.11/8.6.4) with SMTP id WAA28424; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 22:10:17 -0400 X-Sender: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 21:21:43 -0500 To: Randal Whittle From: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mark Bell) Subject: Re: Certified/working Ethernet cards for 755C Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU >> What is a list of the Ethernet cards out there that have worked with >> minimal ease on the TP 755C? I see 3Com is selling their Etherlink III >> PCMCIA card at a special promo price of $99. What does IBM say will work? >> Personal experiences? Thanks. > > From personal experience, I can tell you it works just fine >(in a 750C anyway--I'm quite certain that there is little difference). >Funny though--I bought it at this "special promo price" something like >6 to 9 months ago. Pretty long "promotion", eh?! > > Relatively fast little bugger too, if you can believe the 3Com >propaganda that comes with it. :) > > Just one caveat--it works using "point enabler" software which can >conflict with your normal PCMCIA socket services driver (if you need it for >another card in another slot at the same time). > I guess this would narrow my criteria even more. Currently, my 755C has a Megahertz PCMCIA Xjack Modem installed in slot one. Any other card that would be a possible candidate would have to work with the 755C's card services. It would be nice to find a card that installs as easy and seamlessly as the Megahertz Xjack did. Do you or anyone else out there have any suggestions? The card would be primarily used under WfWG 3.11. .....That's right, No friggin' sig!........ * Mark Bell * 800 College Drive #104 * Vineland, NJ 08360 * 1-609-327-4029 * From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 23:12:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21271; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:12:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29331; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:02:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:02:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29306; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:02:29 -0400 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA04200; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:02:03 -0400 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199504030302.XAA04200@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Certified/working Ethernet cards for 755C To: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mark Bell) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: from "Mark Bell" at Apr 2, 95 09:21:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Just one caveat--it works using "point enabler" software which can > >conflict with your normal PCMCIA socket services driver (if you need it for > >another card in another slot at the same time). > > I guess this would narrow my criteria even more. Currently, my 755C has a > Megahertz PCMCIA Xjack Modem installed in slot one. Any other card that > would be a possible candidate would have to work with the 755C's card > services. It would be nice to find a card that installs as easy and > seamlessly as the Megahertz Xjack did. Do you or anyone else out there have > any suggestions? The card would be primarily used under WfWG 3.11. Recent versions of the 3C589 drivers don't require a point enabler. I'm running WfW 3.11 with Beame & Whiteside's TCPIP/NFS product, and the 3C589 NDIS driver works fine with card services. [ I've also gotten the card to work with Warp and TCP/IP 2.0, but I can't seem to get LanMan Client 2.2b for OS/2 to work. ] From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 23:22:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21995; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:22:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00428; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:15:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:15:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from america.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00418; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:15:31 -0400 Received: from tactical.ppp.america.com by america.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA08272; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:14:08 +0500 Message-Id: <9504030314.AA08272@america.com> X-Sender: richh@america.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 02 Apr 1995 23:14:50 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: rrh@@CS.UTK.EDU (Richard Holtz) Subject: 755CE and QEMM We are using a 755CE and trying to install QEMM 7.5 We keep getting a APM failure. We would appreciate the QEMM line and other setup info. We prefer not using stealth. Note we are using Dock II. We are also looking for a file vesa.exe which appears to be in a imbvesa subdirectory which we do not have. We would appreciate any help in re-creating that sub-directory or being steered to a URL site for it. Thank you in advance =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Holtz RRH Associates Home Control [Automation] and Building Control Systems Consultants Tel: 904 676 2725 Cell FlipPhone: 904 679 4851 Fax: 904 676 0237 internet: rrh@america.com Compuserve: Used when in field 76507,2222 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 2 23:49:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25153; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:49:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01955; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:43:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:43:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01945; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 23:43:40 -0400 Received: from by (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA10013; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:51:41 +0900 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:51:41 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199504030351.MAA10013@Pion> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, rrh@@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755CE and QEMM I have been experience a problem with my 755C and a Dock II using Windows. It seems the driver "vpowerd" does not work in this environment for me. I am also using QEMM 7.5, but did not think to try removing it yet. The machine also seems to not recognize that I have the PNP BIOS installed. Is the latest version 13? Thanks. -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 04:53:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12669; Mon, 3 Apr 95 04:53:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21380; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 04:43:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 04:43:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21369; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 04:43:16 -0400 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa01103; 3 Apr 95 9:42 GMT-60:00 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id ab05736; 3 Apr 95 9:42 GMT-60:00 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading to OS2 Warp Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 9:34:49 BST Message-Id: <9504030934.aa23488@hipass.filct.com> Warp works fine on Thinkpad (I have a 750C)...but make sure you get the SECOND FixPak. My experience told me that after 'servicing' your OS with Does anyone know if the xr0w005 fixpack is US only? I have a UK Warp, and the pack said there was nothing to service (and yes, I checked for the files mentioned in the README :-) Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 07:46:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09111; Mon, 3 Apr 95 07:46:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05750; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 07:36:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 07:36:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05739; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 07:36:22 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id HAA10364; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 07:39:56 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 07:39:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Tim Tyhurst Cc: TP750 Mailing List Subject: Re: Certified/working Ethernet cards for 755C In-Reply-To: <199504030302.XAA04200@dogmead.excelsior.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 2 Apr 1995, Tim Tyhurst wrote: > I'm running WfW 3.11 with Beame & Whiteside's TCPIP/NFS product, Do you know, I have written them and said I think I deserve a free copy of their product, but they seem not to agree. Be different if Beame didn't have _his_ name first, I'm sure.... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 10:52:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10781; Mon, 3 Apr 95 10:52:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18106; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 10:41:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 10:41:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18088; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 10:41:39 -0400 Message-Id: <199504031441.KAA18088@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5186; Mon, 03 Apr 95 10:41:38 EST Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (NJE origin SHX@PSUVM) by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with RFC822 id 8100; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 10:41:37 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 10:41 EDT From: "Susan H. Xu" Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month To: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu Cc: CAHILLRE@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, FADGENG@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, MCHENRY@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Wai_Shan_Lam AT brown.edu -- Sat, 01 Apr 1995 09:12:06 -0500 >At 11:18 AM 3/28/95 -0500, CAHILLRE@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU wrote: >>InfoWorld At Deadline 3/27/95 >>"" IBM late next month will upgrade its ThinkPad line with a model offering >>a 10.4 inch 600-by-800 resolution active matrix screen, 75-MHz Pentium >>processor, and Lithium-ion Battery, said sources close to the company. >>The 755CX will cost the same as the 755ce, which has a list price of >>$7,499 and a $5,936 average street price. The 755C, 755CE, and 755CD >>models will be discontinued when the 755CX ships, the sources said. >>the company also will offer a $1,449 Pentium upgrade to owners of the >>other ThinkPad 75 models when the 755CX ships. "" >> I plan to purchase a TP 755C DX2 50MHz (haven't made the final decision yet). My understanding is that the machine is upgradable to DX4 75mhz. Does anyone know that can the Pentium chip upgrade a 755C DX2 50MHz machine? If not, can it upgrade the TP 755C DX4 75MHz? Any advise of buying either TP 755C DX2 or TP 755C DX4? Thanks for the help! -Susan From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 11:41:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16992; Mon, 3 Apr 95 11:41:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21933; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:27:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:27:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21923; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:27:10 -0400 Received: from gjacobs (gjacobs.qualcomm.com [129.46.122.39]) by qualcomm.com (8.6.10/QC-MAIN-2.1) with SMTP id IAA18910 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 08:26:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199504031526.IAA18910@qualcomm.com> X-Sender: gjacobs@129.46.50.10 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 03 Apr 1995 08:26:39 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: gjacobs@qualcomm.com (Gary E. Jacobs) Subject: 755CE worldwide adapter and batteries I've tried IBM Direct and Power Express, both are out of stock for worldwide adapters and batteries for the 755CE. Any other sources I can try? Thanks, Gary Jacobs gjacobs@qualcomm.com Gary Jacobs gjacobs@qualcomm.com (619)658-4069 voice (619)658-2120 fax From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 12:14:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23405; Mon, 3 Apr 95 12:14:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24554; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:55:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:55:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24538; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:55:44 -0400 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HOWGKAWH9S002ZLL@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:55:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 1995 11:55:31 -0400 (EDT) From: billy@mix.com Subject: 755CE keyboard occasionally drops a char..? Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <796924531.946788.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: I've had a 755CE a couple weeks now and while overall it's extremely impressive every now and then it drops a char from those typed to it on its keyboard. This isn't 100% reproducable, but it is to some extent. It's almost as if the keyboard scan clock needs to be running a bit faster, or so it seems. This happens both in dos and windows and it doesn't matter what application software is running. Just wondering if anyone else has run into this, and more importantly, what it takes to fix it? I don't want to send it back to IBM unless that's really necessary. Thanks, Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 12:35:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26755; Mon, 3 Apr 95 12:35:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26654; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:22:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:22:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26638; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:22:26 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.36] (mac36.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA05117; Mon, 3 Apr 95 12:22:21 EDT Message-Id: <9504031622.AA05117@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:29:53 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month >>>InfoWorld At Deadline 3/27/95 >>>"" IBM late next month will upgrade its ThinkPad line with a model offering >>>a 10.4 inch 600-by-800 resolution active matrix screen, 75-MHz Pentium >>>processor, and Lithium-ion Battery, said sources close to the company. >>>The 755CX will cost the same as the 755ce, which has a list price of >>>$7,499 and a $5,936 average street price. The 755C, 755CE, and 755CD >>>models will be discontinued when the 755CX ships, the sources said. >>>the company also will offer a $1,449 Pentium upgrade to owners of the >>>other ThinkPad 75 models when the 755CX ships. "" >>> I'm wondering if the lithium-ion battery will work on older 750 series machines. If it will run a Pentium for a reasonable amount of time, it should run my 750 for days:). ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 12:47:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28153; Mon, 3 Apr 95 12:47:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27562; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:32:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:32:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mfmail.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27547; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 12:32:32 -0400 From: Received: from ibm3172e.mfltd.co.uk by mfmail.mfltd.co.uk with SMTP (5.65/25-eef) id AA20596; Mon, 3 Apr 95 17:30:33 GMT Message-Id: <9504031730.AA20596@mfmail.mfltd.co.uk> Received: from NWB.RSCS by NWB.MFLTD.CO.UK (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7716; Mon, 03 Apr 95 17:32:17 GMT Date: Mon, 03 Apr 95 17:32:17 GMT To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Keyboard problems ======================================================================= From: D. Gwyn Jones Fileshare 2 development, Products Group. DGJ at NWB, GBHFFWHF at IBMMAIL, e-mail: dgj@mfltd.co.uk Subject: Re: Keyboard problems > I've had a 755CE a couple weeks now and while overall it's extremely > impressive every now and then it drops a char from those typed to it > on its keyboard. This isn't 100% reproducable, but it is to some > extent. It's almost as if the keyboard scan clock needs to be > running a bit faster, or so it seems. This happens both in dos and > windows and it doesn't matter what application software is running. I've always had a similar problem with my 755C. However, I'm convinced it only happens when using an external keyboard. I'm using one of IBM's little T-jack things which allows both an external mouse and keyboard to be plugged into the single socket next the PCMCIA card slot. I can't reproduce it at will, but I most definitely know when it's happened! Regards, Gwyn. Micro Focus Ltd Tel. (44) (0)1635 565294 26 West Street Fax. (44) (0)1635 565567 Extension 5294 Newbury RG13 1JT U.K. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 13:58:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10538; Mon, 3 Apr 95 13:58:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04083; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:43:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:43:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from research.att.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04069; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:43:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199504031743.NAA04069@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by research.att.com; Mon Apr 3 13:35 EDT 1995 Received: from argo.tempo.att.com.tempo.att.com by allegra.tempo.att.com; id AA23255; Mon, 3 Apr 95 13:35:26 EDT Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 13:35:30 EDT From: paul@research.att.com (Paul Krzyzanowski) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: drive letters for pcmcia cards Is it possible to specify some parameter to the pcmcia drivers to map pcmcia disks (or flash ram) to higher drive letters? IBM wasn't able to help me out with this. I've not used pcmcia flash ram until now and find that it displaces the mapping of my cd drive. Changing all drive references for the cd would be a real pain now. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 15:05:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24173; Mon, 3 Apr 95 15:05:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08954; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:50:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:50:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08942; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:49:53 -0400 Received: from ppp225.basegrp.com (ppp225.basegrp.com [204.248.92.225]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA25583 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:49:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:49:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199504031849.NAA25583@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basegrp.com (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: 755CE keyboard occasionally drops a char..? At 11:55 AM 4/3/95 -0400, billy@mix.com wrote: >I've had a 755CE a couple weeks now and while overall it's extremely >impressive every now and then it drops a char from those typed to it >on its keyboard. This isn't 100% reproducable, but it is to some >extent. It's almost as if the keyboard scan clock needs to be >running a bit faster, or so it seems. This happens both in dos and >windows and it doesn't matter what application software is running. > >Just wondering if anyone else has run into this, and more importantly, >what it takes to fix it? I don't want to send it back to IBM unless >that's really necessary. > >Thanks, > >Billy Y.. I occasionally have this problem also. It seems however that I have the worst problem with a particular key (the Shift key) I assumed it was because my pinky wasn't as strong or as fast as my other fingers. Now I wonder??? |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 16:58:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16810; Mon, 3 Apr 95 16:58:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17366; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 16:43:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 16:43:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17356; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 16:43:03 -0400 Received: from hp.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA34028; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 15:23:37 -0500 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.15//ident-1.0) id AA181260751; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:25:51 -0600 Message-Id: <199504032025.AA181260751@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: 755CD info To: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:25:50 -0600 (MDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199504031849.NAA25583@mtvernon1.basenet.net> from "Kris D. Williams" at Apr 3, 95 01:49:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a 755CD and would like to be able to fully use the CD-ROM drive from Linux. I can access data CD's without any problems but I'm having trouble with audio CD's. When I use a program that starts them playing I can see the CD drive is active but no sound comes out the speakers or the headphone jack. Does anyone know how to get this working? Does anyone know someone technical at IBM I can talk to? I thought that maybe the audio output of the CD drive is going to the DSP chip and since Linux hasn't activated it, it doesn't do anything with the audio. If this is so, anyone know where/how to get more info on the DSP? I don't expect to get the full sound blaster compatability going in Linux (it would be nice though!!!! 8^) but I would like it just to be able to pass through the CD audio. Thanks for any help! +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 3 17:42:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24466; Mon, 3 Apr 95 17:42:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15671; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 16:20:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 16:20:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from bsdi.nucleus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15659; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 16:19:56 -0400 Received: (twkary@localhost) by bsdi.nucleus.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.5) id OAA09847; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:18:18 -0600 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:18:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Tim Kary To: DGJ@mfltd.co.uk Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Keyboard problems In-Reply-To: <9504031730.AA20596@mfmail.mfltd.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Apr 1995 DGJ@mfltd.co.uk wrote: > Subject: Re: Keyboard problems > > > I've had a 755CE a couple weeks now and while overall it's extremely > > impressive every now and then it drops a char from those typed to it > > on its keyboard. This isn't 100% reproducable, but it is to some > > extent. It's almost as if the keyboard scan clock needs to be > > running a bit faster, or so it seems. This happens both in dos and > > windows and it doesn't matter what application software is running. > > I've always had a similar problem with my 755C. However, I'm convinced it > only happens when using an external keyboard. I'm using one of IBM's little > T-jack things which allows both an external mouse and keyboard to be plugged > into the single socket next the PCMCIA card slot. > > I can't reproduce it at will, but I most definitely know when it's happened! > > Regards, Gwyn. Micro Focus Ltd Tel. (44) (0)1635 565294 > 26 West Street Fax. (44) (0)1635 565567 > Extension 5294 Newbury RG13 1JT U.K. I would have to agree with this assessment. I have found the same to be true, but _only_ when using an external keyboard and the "Y" keyboard/mouse connector. It's not that big of a deal since when my fingers are flying I have been known, on occasion, to drop a character myself! Thank goodness for the spell-checker!! Tim Kary ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Kary twkary@nucleus.com |"Imagination is more 403-262-7021 hhttp://www.nucleus.com/tkary.html | important than knowledge." 870-1386 (voice mail) | - Albert Einstein ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 3 18:39:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04899; Mon, 3 Apr 95 18:39:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25751; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 18:24:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 18:24:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25741; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 18:24:29 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA11622; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 15:24:22 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA08159; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 15:24:16 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504032224.PAA08159@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 15:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9504031622.AA05117@gl.ciw.edu> from "Victor Kress" at Apr 3, 95 12:29:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm wondering if the lithium-ion battery will work on older 750 series mach > If it will run a Pentium for a reasonable amount of time, it should run my > 750 for days:). Not likely. If my father wasn't lying to me (he worked for a battery-development company for a while--one of the majors that mfgrs. for the biggies like Motorola Radios & Cellular Phones), then the charge-cycle characteristics (and perhaps the discharge characteristics as well) involved in charging a Lithium-Ion battery are different enough from NiMH batteries that you wouldn't be able to use the other battery technology in your machine which is designed for NiMH batteries. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 01:12:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11305; Tue, 4 Apr 95 01:12:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20963; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:01:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:01:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20952; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:01:12 -0400 Received: from tonto-slip3.cis.brown.edu (tonto-slip3.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.23]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id BAA13398; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:02:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199504040502.BAA13398@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 01:00:20 -0400 To: "Susan H. Xu" From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month Cc: CAHILLRE@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, FADGENG@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, MCHENRY@BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU At 10:41 AM 4/3/95 EDT, Susan H. Xu wrote: >I plan to purchase a TP 755C DX2 50MHz (haven't made the final decision >yet). My understanding is that the machine is upgradable to DX4 75mhz. >Does anyone know that can the Pentium chip upgrade a 755C DX2 50MHz >machine? If not, can it upgrade the TP 755C DX4 75MHz? Any advise of >buying either TP 755C DX2 or TP 755C DX4? Thanks for the help! >-Susan > The Pentium upgrade will not be work in a 755C. The Pentium upgrade kit only works for the 755CE, 755CSE and 755CD. Why a 755C? Price? I have a friend with a 755C (DX4/75), and he is not very happy with it. It is not that much faster then my other friend's Toshiba T2400CT (DX2/50) which cost (back then) half as much. If IBM is gonna discontinue the 755CE line, maybe IBM will be cutting prices on them real soon prior to their press release of the 755CX. <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 01:14:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11316; Tue, 4 Apr 95 01:14:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20951; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:01:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:01:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20937; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:01:09 -0400 Received: from tonto-slip3.cis.brown.edu (tonto-slip3.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.23]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id BAA13406; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 01:03:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199504040503.BAA13406@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 01:00:23 -0400 To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month At 12:29 PM 4/3/95 +0100, Victor Kress wrote: >I'm wondering if the lithium-ion battery will work on older 750 series machines. >If it will run a Pentium for a reasonable amount of time, it should run my >750 for days:). > >---------------------------- >Victor Kress >Geophysical Laboratory >5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. >Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 >(202) 686-2410 x2489 >--------------------------- > > > I believe the circuit has to be modified in order for a Nickel metal hydride machine to use Lithium-ion battery. I could be wrong, but I highly doubt it will work! <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 12:27:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16116; Tue, 4 Apr 95 12:27:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07502; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:02:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:02:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07492; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:02:08 -0400 Received: from get.hooked.net (get.hooked.net [199.2.134.2]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA06054; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:01:56 -0700 Received: from p15.slip.net (sfsp105.slip.net [204.160.88.149]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA07544; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:01:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199504041601.JAA07544@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 09:02:02 -0700 To: Sang H Kim , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: linux on tp755 At 01:57 PM 3/8/95 -0500, Sang H Kim wrote: >is there an ftp site that has the necessary files to install linux on tp755's? This is a page on 755cs specific installation: http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse/linux/ ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 13:44:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20489; Tue, 4 Apr 95 13:44:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12818; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 13:18:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 13:18:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12808; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 13:18:42 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id NAA19821; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 13:22:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 13:22:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: DGJ@mfltd.co.uk Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Keyboard problems In-Reply-To: <9504031730.AA20596@mfmail.mfltd.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Apr 1995 DGJ@mfltd.co.uk wrote: > From: D. Gwyn Jones Fileshare 2 development, Products Group. > > > I've had a 755CE a couple weeks now and while overall it's extremely > > impressive every now and then it drops a char from those typed to it > > on its keyboard. This isn't 100% reproducable, but it is to some > > extent. It's almost as if the keyboard scan clock needs to be > > running a bit faster, or so it seems. This happens both in dos and > > windows and it doesn't matter what application software is running. > > I've always had a similar problem with my 755C. However, I'm convinced it > only happens when using an external keyboard. I'm using one of IBM's little > T-jack things which allows both an external mouse and keyboard to be plugged > into the single socket next the PCMCIA card slot. > > I can't reproduce it at will, but I most definitely know when it's happened! I had thought this was just a problem with my bad typing (I do ~70 wpm non-touch typing). I'm not glad to find it's a problem other people have. I too have the keyboard Y cable.... Anyone have this happen with a minidock/port replicator? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 14:45:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25636; Tue, 4 Apr 95 14:45:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16540; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:22:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:22:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16528; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:22:35 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA14649; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:22:26 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA26353; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:22:25 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504041822.LAA26353@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 3/27 InfoWorld - IBM will add upgrade Thinkpad Next Month To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9504041327.AA07196@gl.ciw.edu> from "Victor Kress" at Apr 4, 95 09:35:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >> I'm wondering if the lithium-ion battery will work on older 750 series m > >> If it will run a Pentium for a reasonable amount of time, it should run my > >> 750 for days:). > > > > Not likely. If my father wasn't lying to me (he worked for a > >battery-development company for a while--one of the majors that mfgrs. for > >the biggies like Motorola Radios & Cellular Phones), then the charge-cycle > >characteristics (and perhaps the discharge characteristics as well) > >involved in charging a Lithium-Ion battery are different enough from > >NiMH batteries that you wouldn't be able to use the other battery > >technology in your machine which is designed for NiMH batteries. > > That seems reasonable. There is some intelligence in the thinkpad battery, > which is why it has an off switch. I wonder if the difference in charge > strategy is incorporated in on-board battery firmware. If so, it might > work. I wondered about that myself, but I'm pretty sure that the on-board "Battery intelligence" (which incidently, is not standard on the 360 series) is not capable of changing the charging or discharging capabilities of the computer. All it does is measure the current output against time, and provide fairly accurate estimates to the computer software ("Fuel") regarding how much time/juice is left. Changing the charge characteristics would be a whole lot bigger job. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 15:54:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29633; Tue, 4 Apr 95 15:54:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21745; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:20:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:20:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21723; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:19:58 -0400 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP) id <23453-1@alf.uib.no>; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 21:18:29 +0200 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.950404211814.704; 04 Apr 95 21:18:29 -200 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen To: Don Whiteside Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 21:26:39 MET Subject: Re: Keyboard problems Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) > Subject: Re: Keyboard problems I recently had to get a new keyboard due to the same problem. I had it for month, once a week or so: most often when the battery systenm got warm. Replaced on the warranty (TP 750C) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 18:13:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13665; Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:13:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04728; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 17:50:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 17:50:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from elvis.neep.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04714; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 17:50:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199504042150.RAA04714@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from [144.92.52.168] by elvis.neep.wisc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13794; Tue, 4 Apr 95 16:43:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 16:43:54 -0500 X-Sender: jake@elvis.neep.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: blanchar@engr.wisc.edu (Jake Blanchard) X-Mailer: Regarding dropped keys on thinkpads: > > I had thought this was just a problem with my bad typing (I do ~70 wpm >non-touch typing). I'm not glad to find it's a problem other people have. >I too have the keyboard Y cable.... Anyone have this happen with a >minidock/port replicator? > > I've had problems with this ever since I got my port replicator. I don't remember dropping keys using the built-in keyboard, but my external keyboard drops keys every few days (under constant use). It can be annoying. By the way, I do not have a y-cable. jake _______________________________________________ james p blanchard nuclear engineering and engineering physics ** university of wisconsin - madison ** blanchard@engr.wisc.edu OR jake@nucst6.neep.wisc.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 4 18:57:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16481; Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:57:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07525; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:27:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:27:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07515; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:27:16 -0400 Message-Id: <199504042227.SAA07515@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by martigny.ai.mit.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11632; Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:27:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:27:10 -0400 From: Chris Hanson To: blanchar@engr.wisc.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Tue, 4 Apr 95 16:43:54 -0500 from blanchar@engr.wisc.edu (Jake Blanchard) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 16:43:54 -0500 From: blanchar@engr.wisc.edu (Jake Blanchard) Regarding dropped keys on thinkpads: I've had problems with this ever since I got my port replicator. I don't remember dropping keys using the built-in keyboard, but my external keyboard drops keys every few days (under constant use). It can be annoying. By the way, I do not have a y-cable. Likewise, I don't have a Y cable, but the keyboard plugged into my dock II drops keys two or three times per hour. Up until now I had assumed it was the keyboard -- I was going to get a different one to get rid of the problem. Now it looks like that would be a waste of money. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 5 03:09:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22766; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:09:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07366; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:54:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:54:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07356; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:53:58 -0400 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP) id <03300-0@alf.uib.no>; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 08:52:25 +0200 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.950405085135.384; 05 Apr 95 08:52:26 -200 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 09:00:02 MET Subject: TP750 and QEMM Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) I have now found the circumstances behin my system crashes: P705C, QEMM 7.5 , IBM DOS 6.3. Windows 3.1 If I open a DOS box and thereafter use FileManager to move a file (drag and drop) to a: , trhen I have a full crash (Exeption 6) evvery time. Any suggestions ? I have tried many different Qemm setups. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 5 18:13:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17172; Wed, 5 Apr 95 18:13:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15889; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:43:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:43:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns9000.furman.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15879; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:43:34 -0400 From: Received: from by ns9000.furman.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA161278682; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:51:23 -0400 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:51:16 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: My external keyboard works! To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Item Subject: Message text This is just my $0.02 worth: ever since I got my ThinkPad 750 about a year ago I've used an external keyboard far more than the built-in one. First I used one of those y-adapters. Now I use a PCMCIA port replicator. I've *never* experienced this dropped characters problem, under either DOS/Windows or OS/2. For the record, I'm using an IBM keyboard (if that's relevant). Wesley Dunaway From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 5 19:39:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25208; Wed, 5 Apr 95 19:39:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21672; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:12:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:11:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21662; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:11:57 -0400 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8660) id <01HOZI3OIAK0005684@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Wed, 05 Apr 1995 16:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 1995 16:13:02 -0700 (PDT) From: ANNELISE ANDERSON Subject: Active & Passive Matrix To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HOZI3OITUA005684@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" X-Vms-Cc: ANDRSN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT What's the difference between active and passive matrix? Not technically, but in readability etc. One person has told me active is pre-adjusted, comes without brightness and constrast controls (largely); another says the opposite. Would appreciate clarification. Thanks Annelise From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 00:01:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29473; Thu, 6 Apr 95 00:01:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08250; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 23:51:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 23:51:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08238; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 23:51:44 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA02874; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 20:51:42 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id UAA17172; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 20:51:41 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504060351.UAA17172@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Active & Passive Matrix To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (ANNELISE ANDERSON) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 20:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <01HOZI3OITUA005684@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> from "ANNELISE ANDERSON" at Apr 5, 95 04:13:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > What's the difference between active and passive matrix? > > Not technically, but in readability etc. > > One person has told me active is pre-adjusted, comes without brightness > and constrast controls (largely); another says the opposite. Would > appreciate clarification. Not true--both have contrast and brightness controls. The contrast control works rather differently on the active screen vs. the passive though. In terms of "looks", the active is clearly--by every measure-- superior to the passive. Brighter, clearer...it was enough to make me send my passive screen back and pay the extra for the active. However, a dual-scan passive still sports a perfectly workable screen that looks quite decent. For the budget-conscious, it works perfectly well. The active is clearly superior, but the passive certainly isn't bad (as long as its dual-scan). ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 00:28:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00457; Thu, 6 Apr 95 00:28:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09945; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 00:18:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 00:18:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09935; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 00:18:27 -0400 Received: from ppp229.basegrp.com (ppp229.basegrp.com [204.248.92.229]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA29021; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 23:17:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 23:17:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199504060417.XAA29021@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: ANNELISE ANDERSON , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basegrp.com (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: Active & Passive Matrix At 04:13 PM 4/5/95 -0700, ANNELISE ANDERSON wrote: >What's the difference between active and passive matrix? > >Not technically, but in readability etc. > >One person has told me active is pre-adjusted, comes without brightness >and constrast controls (largely); another says the opposite. Would >appreciate clarification. > >Thanks > >Annelise > From an end user perspective (brightnes, readability) the active matrix provides a brighter screen with more vibrant colors. It also refreshes faster. You typically won't see much motion video on a passive matrix screen because the pixels, since they are passively lit, don't 'change' fast enough. The birghtness and contrast functions are more a reflection of the model of the computer. The 750C (active matrix) has both a brightness and contrast switch. While the 755C (also active matrix) has only a contrast switch. I suspect they decided to leave it off the newer versions because it had more of a direct effect on the battery consumption than it did on the real brightness level of the display. In my classes, I always suggest that users keep the brightness switch as low as possible and use display angle and contrast to adjust the best view (the battery lasts longer). You will also find that passive matrix screens suffer from ghosting (i.e. if you move your mouse to fast, you can lose it on the screen for a while). They also don't have as great a viewing angle as the active matrix screens. You will also see a type of passive matrix called dual scan passive matrix. It is much better than standard passive matrix but is still not as fast and clean as active matrix. Most models with this will say something like CS on the end of the number (eg 750CS). Hope this non-technical description helps. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 03:03:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02626; Thu, 6 Apr 95 03:03:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17020; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 02:47:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 02:47:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17009; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 02:47:45 -0400 Received: from by (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA04061 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:55:46 +0900 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:55:46 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199504060655.PAA04061@Pion> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755C, DockII (with Adaptec SCSI), and Linux Hi. I have the above equipment. I'm trying to get a SCSI interface to work with it. So far, no luck. I have a NEC 4x CD-ROM and 2 gig HD attached to the Dock II SCSI port. I've also built the latest Linux kernel (v1.2.3) using all the Adaptec drivers.. But my machine doesn't recognise any SCSI devices when it boots!!! Has anyone else done this? Is anyone else trying to do this?? Comments would be most appreciated. Thankyou. -Lee Hounshell lee@tcs.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 10:40:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20023; Thu, 6 Apr 95 10:40:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17554; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:26:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:26:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rigel.lmt.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17539; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:26:30 -0400 Received: from leonardo.lmt.com by rigel.lmt.com with SMTP id AA17592 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:31:28 -0500 Received: from LEONARDO/SMTPQUEUE by leonardo.lmt.com (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 6 Apr 95 9:31:29 GMT-6 Received: from SMTPQUEUE by LEONARDO (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 6 Apr 95 9:30:43 GMT-6 From: "Chris Schumann" Organization: LaserMaster Technologies R&D Divn. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:30:35 CST6CDT Subject: Active & Passive Matrix, technically Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <2E01A45936@leonardo.lmt.com> > From: krisdw@basegrp.com (Kris D. Williams) > You typically won't see much motion video on a passive matrix > screen because the pixels, since they are passively lit, don't 'change' fast > enough. I'd really like to get technical here, just for fun. Active matrix pixels are also passively lit. They are brighter because the driver for the pixel is right at the pixel. Since each pixel is basically a capacitor, this is faster because there is much less area to charge than a whole line of pixels driven by a chip off the edge of the screen. A larger voltage can also be applied because of the quick charge time. This also allows for a wider dynamic range, or more levels of brightness, or more colors. Because there are now several hundred thousand drivers, it is more likely that a few will be bad, hence the stuck-on or stuck-off pixels. > You will also find that passive matrix screens suffer from ghosting (i.e. if > you move your mouse to fast, you can lose it on the screen for a while). This is the exact same effect. Namely, the image changing faster than then screen can accomodate. > They also don't have as great a viewing angle as the active matrix screens. Just for education, does anyone have an explanation for this? > You will also see a type of passive matrix called dual scan passive matrix. > It is much better than standard passive matrix but is still not as fast and > clean as active matrix. Dual scan reduces many of the problems by using two controllers, one on each half of the screen. This means each line of pixels is only half as long, so has a lower capacitance, and each half of the screen is updated at the same time, effectively doubling the scan rate. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 10:41:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20035; Thu, 6 Apr 95 10:41:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17735; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:29:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:29:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17723; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:29:18 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id f83ecb30; Thu, 6 Apr 95 08:29:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:23:58 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: Re: TP750 and QEMM To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, Thor +ivind Jensen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Just My thoughts (and experience) get rid of QEMM. That solved most of the problems I have encountered relating to Windows and exception errors. ...Mike Eddy... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: TP750 and QEMM Author: Thor +ivind Jensen at Internet Date: 4/5/95 9:00 AM I have now found the circumstances behin my system crashes: P705C, QEMM 7.5 , IBM DOS 6.3. Windows 3.1 If I open a DOS box and thereafter use FileManager to move a file (drag and drop) to a: , trhen I have a full crash (Exeption 6) evvery time. Any suggestions ? I have tried many different Qemm setups. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 15:55:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16397; Thu, 6 Apr 95 15:55:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14655; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:38:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:38:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14640; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:38:36 -0400 Received: from hp.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA28240; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:38:24 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.15//ident-1.0) id AA031087371; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:42:51 -0600 Message-Id: <199504061942.AA031087371@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: 755C, DockII (with Adaptec SCSI), and Linux To: lee@champion.tcs.co.jp (Lee Hounshell) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:42:51 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199504060655.PAA04061@Pion> from "Lee Hounshell" at Apr 6, 95 03:55:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hi. > > I have the above equipment. > I'm trying to get a SCSI interface to work with it. > So far, no luck. I have a friend here at work with a Dock II and he did get the SCSI working. You will need to patch and then rebuild the kernel. The patch needed is in drivers/scsi/aha152x.c. You need to add a new signature to the signatures[] array. If you look in the file you will see a part like this: { "Adaptec AHA-1520 BIOS", 0x102e, 21 }, /* Adaptec 152x */ { "Adaptec ASW-B626 BIOS", 0x1029, 21 }, /* on-board controller */ ... Add to the list: { "Adaptec BIOS:AHA-1532P", 0x1c, 22 }, /* TP Dock II */ This should then let Linux find your SCSI controller. > I have a NEC 4x CD-ROM and 2 gig HD attached to the Dock II SCSI > port. I've also built the latest Linux kernel (v1.2.3) using all > the Adaptec drivers.. But my machine doesn't recognise any SCSI > devices when it boots!!! It will with the above patch. Let me know if there are other problems. > Has anyone else done this? > Is anyone else trying to do this?? > > Comments would be most appreciated. > Thankyou. > > -Lee Hounshell > lee@tcs.com +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 15:55:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16468; Thu, 6 Apr 95 15:55:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14663; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:38:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:38:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns9000.furman.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14647; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:38:44 -0400 From: Received: from by ns9000.furman.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA153477595; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:46:35 -0400 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 95 15:45:50 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: Re: My external keyboard works! To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Item Subject: Message text > Is the PCMCIA card port replicator available from IBM or from a third-party > vendor? > > Which peripherals can you attach to this card? > > Thnaks! > > Jorge > The PCMCIA card port replicator is made by IBM. I got mine from my computer dealer, but IBM PC Direct probably has them too. As far as I know, the card slots work with any PCMCIA card that you can put into the internal slots. When you boot the computer with the port replicator attached, it just recognizes the two extra slots. I've successfully (and transparently) used it with my modem. Aside from that, the port replicator has duplicates of all the ports on the back of my ThinkPad 750, as well as a floppy disk drive port and separate keyboard and mouse ports. Hope this information helps. Wesley T. Dunaway From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 20:05:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05197; Thu, 6 Apr 95 20:05:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02369; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:46:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:46:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from grace.waikato.ac.nz by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02345; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:46:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:46:36 -0400 From: Message-Id: <199504062346.TAA02345@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from mutant by waikato.ac.nz; Fri, 7 Apr 95 11:43 +1300 Subject: unsubscribe To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Sender: srodgers@waikato.ac.nz X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" unsubscribe Stephen J Rodgers ITS Workshop Supervisor Waikato University New Zealand From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 20:09:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06269; Thu, 6 Apr 95 20:09:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02984; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:59:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:59:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from scunix1.harvard.edu.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02974; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:59:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:59:13 -0400 Message-Id: <9504062359.AA05496@scunix1.harvard.edu.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@scunix3.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: chan4@fas.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Re: 755C, DockII (with Adaptec SCSI), and Linux >Hi. > >I have the above equipment. >I'm trying to get a SCSI interface to work with it. >So far, no luck. > >I have a NEC 4x CD-ROM and 2 gig HD attached to the Dock II SCSI >port. I've also built the latest Linux kernel (v1.2.3) using all >the Adaptec drivers.. But my machine doesn't recognise any SCSI >devices when it boots!!! > >Has anyone else done this? >Is anyone else trying to do this?? > >Comments would be most appreciated. >Thankyou. > >-Lee Hounshell >lee@tcs.com > The 1542P is compatible w/ the 152x series. Add the following to your lilo config: aha152x=0x340,11,7,1 <--assuming you have not messed w/ your current Dock II config (adaptor should still be at 7) Worked for me! -- Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com chan4@fas.harvard.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 20:13:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06660; Thu, 6 Apr 95 20:13:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03227; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 20:03:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 20:03:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thumper.pomona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03217; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 20:03:55 -0400 Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #9731) id <01HP0Y62QX9C8Y4WUM@POMONA.EDU>; Thu, 06 Apr 1995 17:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 1995 17:03:50 -0700 (PDT) From: scooby doo Subject: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HP0Y62U5028Y4WUM@POMONA.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I have a 755Cs I leave my computer on MS Windows. After I put it in suspend mode, it automatically switches to Hibernate after 1 hour. I use MS Kermit in a window with a PCMCIA card and every time, after hibernation, I run MS Kermit and it does not run. It gives me a message telling me to turn on my modem and then when I exit MS Kermit, the machine freezes. i think there is a problem of recognizing the PCMCIA modem card after hibernation. does anyone have a solution? paul From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 6 21:53:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13521; Thu, 6 Apr 95 21:53:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09675; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 21:42:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 21:42:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09664; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 21:42:49 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA23737 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:40:23 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199504070140.JAA23737@baijuyi> Subject: Request config.sys for XJ2144 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:40:23 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text hi, I'd be grateful if any one can post me their config.sys setup for setting up the Megahertz XJ2144 modem (flash ROM, MNP10, etc). By default C&S services excludes C000-CFFF wheras Megahertz advises to exclude D000-DFFF from the manual. However the manual did say that there was an exception with TPs. (pls. include parts of autodrv.ini and system.ini for any specific alterations) Anyways, using ezplay/Win recognised the modem and stated that it was ready, no card name info tho'. So I closed ezplay/Win again and reloaded it, recognised the modem, shows the name Megahertz etc. but modem not ready! I'm currently using C&S services from Util Diskette v2.00 dated 28.9.94 and BIOS upgrade 1.15 dated 14.11.94 I realised that there were newer copies of the disks but the same versions - possibly catering for the newer TP models. I also found the universal PCMCIA diskette dated somewhere in Feb 95. The current C&S services I'm using does not list the XJ2144 in pcmcia.crd. Any comments? cheers. ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 03:58:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13178; Fri, 7 Apr 95 03:58:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05468; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:46:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:46:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05458; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:46:13 -0400 Received: from tonto-slip7.cis.brown.edu (tonto-slip7.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.27]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id DAA07040; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:48:12 -0400 Message-Id: <199504070748.DAA07040@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 03:45:18 -0400 To: scooby doo , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation At 05:03 PM 4/6/95 -0700, scooby doo wrote: >I have a 755Cs >I leave my computer on MS Windows. After I put it in suspend mode, it >automatically switches to Hibernate after 1 hour. I use MS Kermit in a window >with a PCMCIA card and every time, after hibernation, I run MS Kermit and it >does not run. It gives me a message telling me to turn on my modem and then >when I exit MS Kermit, the machine freezes. >i think there is a problem of recognizing the PCMCIA modem card after >hibernation. >does anyone have a solution? > >paul > Which modem are you using? Are you using Ezplay? <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 04:05:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14175; Fri, 7 Apr 95 04:05:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05892; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:52:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:51:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05874; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:51:55 -0400 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/Task/HJ-5) id AA270201109; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:51:49 +0200 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA140871115; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:51:55 +0200 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199504070751.AA140871115@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: "Floating" active matrix on 755cd To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:51:55 +0200 (METDST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi! I have experienced a temporary "insane" screen on a tp755cd. At the end of the day the colors suddenly began to float or drift to the right. It also happened that the area around the mousecursor kind of "picked" up a random background pattern and "carried" it all over the screen. This was very annoying and I called the IBM technical people to pick it up an fix it. But now, ofcource the screen is fine again and I have nothing wrong to show the IBM technical person. Has anyone experienced this? I guess this is likely to happen again and I do not like it! -- //// Harald Skotnes // Email: harald@staff.cs.uit.no / /// Dept. of Computer Science // Phone: +47 77 64 41 16 // // University of Tromsoe // Fax: +47 77 64 40 54 /// / N-9037 TROMSOE NORWAY // Like it or not, it's One World //// From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 04:10:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14193; Fri, 7 Apr 95 04:10:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05990; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:55:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:55:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from icebox.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05978; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 03:55:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (jfid@localhost) by icebox.mfltd.co.uk (8.6.4/8.6.4) id IAA21198 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 08:55:00 +0100 Message-Id: <199504070755.IAA21198@icebox.mfltd.co.uk> From: jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 08:54:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: Derek V. Chan's note of Apr 6, 7:59pm To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755C, DockII (with Adaptec SCSI), and Linux Derek V. Chan wrote: > >Hi. > > > >I have the above equipment. > >I'm trying to get a SCSI interface to work with it. > >So far, no luck. > > > >I have a NEC 4x CD-ROM and 2 gig HD attached to the Dock II SCSI > >port. I've also built the latest Linux kernel (v1.2.3) using all > >the Adaptec drivers.. But my machine doesn't recognise any SCSI > >devices when it boots!!! > > The 1542P is compatible w/ the 152x series. > > Add the following to your lilo config: > > aha152x=0x340,11,7,1 <--assuming you have not messed w/ your current Dock II > config (adaptor should still be at 7) Does anyone know how to get Linux to recognise the Dock I SCSI card ? James. -- "Yield to temptation -- | jfid@mfltd.co.uk it may not pass your way again" | http://www.mfltd.co.uk/~jfid/ | - Lazarus Long | James Fidell From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 09:04:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00250; Fri, 7 Apr 95 09:04:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27274; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 08:54:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 08:54:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pelican.cit.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27264; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 08:54:35 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by pelican.cit.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03chaos) id AA25112; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 08:54:27 -0400 Message-Id: <9504071254.AA25112@pelican.cit.cornell.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5.3 12/28/94 To: scooby doo Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 06 Apr 1995 17:03:50 PDT." <01HP0Y62U5028Y4WUM@POMONA.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 08:54:26 -0400 From: Bob Cowles > when I exit MS Kermit, the machine freezes. > i think there is a problem of recognizing the PCMCIA modem card after > hibernation. > does anyone have a solution? > > paul I was just thinking about asking for a solution to a similar problem that I have been having ... I have a TP755c running Warp. I recently reinstalled Warp and began using the card&socket services from the installation rather than from the Thinkpad Diskettes. Everything works except that the PCMCIA cards do not come back after hibernation (like the problem described above). I know that they did come back after hibernation when I was using the TP drivers ... has anyone else faced and fix this problem with Warp on a TP75x? ----------------------- Bob Cowles (aka Dr. Chaos) || finger drchaos@pelican.cit.cornell.edu rdc1@cornell.edu || for contents of latest Chaos Corner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 11:14:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28181; Fri, 7 Apr 95 11:14:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07848; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:56:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:56:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07836; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:56:16 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0rxFSc-0004tnC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 09:56 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rxFSa-0002oOC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 09:56 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rxFSZ-0002wvC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 09:56 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation To: rdc@pelican.cit.cornell.edu (Bob Cowles) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:56:31 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9504071254.AA25112@pelican.cit.cornell.edu> from "Bob Cowles" at Apr 7, 95 08:54:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I was just thinking about asking for a solution to a similar problem that I > have been having ... I have a TP755c running Warp. I recently reinstalled > Warp and began using the card&socket services from the installation rather > than from the Thinkpad Diskettes. Everything works except that the PCMCIA > cards do not come back after hibernation (like the problem described above). > I know that they did come back after hibernation when I was using the TP > drivers ... has anyone else faced and fix this problem with Warp on a TP75x? It's a known problem with warp's apm / pcmcia drivers. Good luck getting someone to fix it though. I gave up complaining. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 17:41:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08995; Fri, 7 Apr 95 17:41:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07749; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:18:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:18:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07739; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:18:19 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144283>; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:18:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: Harald Skotnes's message as of Apr 7, 4:09am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Should I complain? Message-Id: <95Apr7.171800edt.144283@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:17:50 -0400 I received my 755CE a few days back (wanted a CD, but you know the story). It's pretty nice. When I start up the machine, there is exactly one pixel toward the centre of the screen that is off-colour. I don't seem to notice it when Windows comes up. The question is, is this a bug or a feature? Is it common in an active-matrix screen to have a bad pixel? Thanks, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 19:19:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15395; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:19:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14894; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:04:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:04:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14873; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:04:18 -0400 Received: from p06.slip.net (sfsp114.slip.net [204.160.88.140]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA19495; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 16:03:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199504072303.QAA19495@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 16:04:15 -0700 To: Eugene Fiume , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Should I complain? At 05:17 PM 4/7/95 -0400, Eugene Fiume wrote: >I received my 755CE a few days back (wanted a CD, but you know the story). >It's pretty nice. When I start up the machine, there is exactly one pixel >toward the centre of the screen that is off-colour. I don't seem to notice >it when Windows comes up. The question is, is this a bug or a feature? >Is it common in an active-matrix screen to have a bad pixel? It's fairly common, and they'll tell you it's okay (I think toshiba says up to 6 bad pixels is acceptable!). Whether you complain is up to you, personally, I don't think a bad pixel is acceptable, and sent a tp back once for a replacement. ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 19:42:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17106; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:42:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15858; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:23:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:23:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15848; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:23:06 -0400 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.10+PanixU1.0) id TAA13657; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:22:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:22:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Finally got my 755cd! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII After 6.2 months of waiting, IBM fianlly delivered the 755cd that I ordered back in November. I hate to say this, but it was worth the wait. What an awesome machine! Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 20:18:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19044; Fri, 7 Apr 95 20:18:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17701; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:06:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:06:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17690; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:06:22 -0400 Received: from p06.slip.net (sfsp95.slip.net [204.160.88.159]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA25135; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:06:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199504080006.RAA25135@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 17:06:27 -0700 To: Michael MacDonald , Thinkpad mailing list From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Finally got my 755cd! At 07:22 PM 4/7/95 -0400, Michael MacDonald wrote: >After 6.2 months of waiting, IBM fianlly delivered the 755cd that I >ordered back in November. I hate to say this, but it was worth the wait. >What an awesome machine! None of the cd problems we've been hearing about? ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 7 20:20:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19354; Fri, 7 Apr 95 20:20:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17769; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:08:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:08:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17753; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:08:35 -0400 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.10+PanixU1.0) id UAA16221; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:07:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:07:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael MacDonald To: jesse montrose Cc: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: Finally got my 755cd! In-Reply-To: <199504080006.RAA25135@mom.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, jesse montrose wrote: > At 07:22 PM 4/7/95 -0400, Michael MacDonald wrote: > >After 6.2 months of waiting, IBM fianlly delivered the 755cd that I > >ordered back in November. I hate to say this, but it was worth the wait. > >What an awesome machine! > > None of the cd problems we've been hearing about? Not yet. Maybe the newer models don't have the same problem. (I hope). -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 8 00:10:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00465; Sat, 8 Apr 95 00:10:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02496; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 23:57:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 23:57:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02486; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 23:57:18 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA14459; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:57:15 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id UAA05564; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:57:14 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504080357.UAA05564@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Should I complain? To: elf@dgp.toronto.edu (Eugene Fiume) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <95Apr7.171800edt.144283@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> from "Eugene Fiume" at Apr 7, 95 05:17:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I received my 755CE a few days back (wanted a CD, but you know the story). > It's pretty nice. When I start up the machine, there is exactly one pixel > toward the centre of the screen that is off-colour. I don't seem to notice > it when Windows comes up. The question is, is this a bug or a feature? Neither. > Is it common in an active-matrix screen to have a bad pixel? Its a common by-product to have a couple of bad pixels in an active- matrix screen. Comes with the territory. They just try to keep the exact number of "baddies" minimized. > > Thanks, > Eugene Fiume. > ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 8 01:36:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22767; Sat, 8 Apr 95 01:36:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07093; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:26:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:26:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07083; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:26:02 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA23393 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:25:57 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix15.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:25:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix15.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix15.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix15.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:25:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: weird vertical linse in dual scan I have a 755Cs dual scan thinkpd and when I life the screen sometimes, the bottom half is filled with vertical multicolored lines all i have to do is shift the screen a bit and it's gone. but it's annoying and it never had that problem until 2 weeks ago. is this a serious problem? thanks in advance From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 8 10:13:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15471; Sat, 8 Apr 95 10:13:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08142; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:00:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:00:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08127; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:00:25 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144282>; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:00:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: Sang H Kim's message as of Apr 8, 1:40am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: First Steps: Loading Linux Message-Id: <95Apr8.100014edt.144282@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:00:13 -0400 I'm sure I have a very basic problem here. I have the Yggdrasil Plug-and-Play Linux CDROM and boot floppy. I suspect some might say that's my problem! When I try to boot my 755CE from that boot floppy, I get the first two letters of the expected "LILO", and then it hangs. If I try to "runlinux" from the CDROM (Raven CD-Note PCMCIA-SCSI interface), I get a DOS message saying that I am trying to perform a "privileged" operation. The "runlinux" command just tries to load linux boot code above the DOS driver memory so that it can use them. Is there a change I should be making to my configuration to allow such a "privileged" operation? I am using the standard config.sys etc., except that I have installed the CDROM and an ethernet network card driver. Any ideas why the boot floppy hangs the machine? To make certain my bootfloppy was current, I remade it, but got the same result. An old UNIX geek who doesn't know the first thing about DOS and Windows... Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 9 04:27:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13040; Sun, 9 Apr 95 04:27:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05633; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 04:13:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 04:13:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from lut.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05619; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 04:13:14 -0400 Received: (from saarinen@localhost) by lut.fi (8.6.11/8.6.6/1.20.kim) id LAA24031; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 11:12:58 +0300 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 11:12:57 +0300 (EETDST) From: Seppo Saarinen To: Eugene Fiume Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: First Steps: Loading Linux In-Reply-To: <95Apr8.100014edt.144282@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey! The Boot Manager programm, delivered at least with OS/2, might help. 73! by Seppo Saarinen From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 9 10:46:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09134; Sun, 9 Apr 95 10:46:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28649; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 10:37:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 10:37:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from student.uq.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28625; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 10:37:37 -0400 Received: from student.uq.edu.au (cs322612@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by student.uq.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA01636; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:37:21 +1000 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:37:15 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Rohan Davidson To: Sang H Kim Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: weird vertical linse in dual scan In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Sang H Kim wrote: > I have a 755Cs dual scan thinkpd > and when I life the screen sometimes, the bottom half is filled with > vertical multicolored lines > all i have to do is shift the screen a bit and it's gone. but it's > annoying and it never had that problem until 2 weeks ago. > is this a serious problem? I have a friend who had this happen after about 6 months on a 750C. In her case, it was a connector problem, and IBM replaced the entire screen within half a day (to a new 755 Active one!). But yes it apparently isn't damaging anything. And no, it won't go away. (That's what IBM said, anyway). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 02:16:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21082; Mon, 10 Apr 95 02:16:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21346; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 02:05:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 02:05:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21328; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 02:05:22 -0400 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8660) id <01HP5HG7GWJ4005V8I@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Sun, 09 Apr 1995 23:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 23:06:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: Flash Cards To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HP5HG7HPGY005V8I@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" X-Vms-Cc: ANDRSN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I am curious about how flashcards, that is pcmcia memory cards, work on the ThinkPads. I saw one listed for about $300 that was provided 2.5 MB. That seems like expensive memory to me! Is it possible to write to these cards, put subdirectories on them, revise and save files, delete files, copy files from them, just as one can on, say, a floppy drive? Do they respond to all the usual DOS commands? Can you use "join" or "append" to access the data as you can with a regular floppy drive? Thanks for any advice. Annelise From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 07:39:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09569; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:39:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08152; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:13:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:13:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thumper.pomona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08130; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:13:42 -0400 Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #9731) id <01HP5LA9BZ008WWNRF@POMONA.EDU>; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:51:33 -0700 (PDT) From: scooby doo Subject: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HP5LA9C1TU8WWNRF@POMONA.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT the question that i initially asked was why does the 755Cs hang up upon using my PCMCIA card after hibernation? i could not figure out why. a couple of people told me through this list that it was because the computer didn't recognize the card slot after hibernation and suggested popping the card out and in again. this method works but an easier way for those people using windows is to click on EZPlay. then, you click on the card slot that you want to initialize again and click on card info. then click on change and finally ok. this causes the computer to reinitialize it and it can be used again without a problem. it has worked for me so far. paul From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 09:58:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17712; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:58:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16299; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:31:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:31:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pelican.cit.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16286; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:31:11 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by pelican.cit.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03chaos) id AA20021; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:31:09 -0400 Message-Id: <9504101331.AA20021@pelican.cit.cornell.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5.3 12/28/94 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:51:33 PDT." <01HP5LA9C1TU8WWNRF@POMONA.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:31:09 -0400 From: Bob Cowles I got some wonderful suggestions. One was to pop the card out and put it in again. On my machine, running Warp, that causes it to lock up, requiring a power-on reset. The other suggestion seems to involve making some choices in the EZ-play softwaer that do not exist in the Warp OS/2 version (titled Plug and Play for PCMCIA). Anyone have any other suggestions (I'm about to go back to the Thinkpad drivers for PCMCIA rather than using the Warp drivers). ----------------------- Bob Cowles (aka Dr. Chaos) || finger drchaos@pelican.cit.cornell.edu rdc1@cornell.edu || for contents of latest Chaos Corner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 10:46:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19918; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:46:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20036; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:13:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:13:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20011; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:13:41 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA22252; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:13:39 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id HAA28239; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:13:38 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504101413.HAA28239@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Flash Cards To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (Annelise Anderson) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <01HP5HG7HPGY005V8I@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> from "Annelise Anderson" at Apr 9, 95 11:06:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I am curious about how flashcards, that is pcmcia memory cards, work > on the ThinkPads. > > I saw one listed for about $300 that was provided 2.5 MB. That seems > like expensive memory to me! It certainly isn't cheap. The price you're quoting is quite a bit on the high side. I'm fairly certain you can get a 5 MB card for about that same price. You have to understand though, this isn't the kind of thing you just whimsically buy and use. It is something that is has special purposes for special needs. The reason I have one (and yes, it does work in my ThinkPad, but after trying it out a year ago, I've not put it in since--simply haven't the need) is because I have an HP 100LX--one of those little "palmtop" computers. This animal is woefully under-powered in the memory department, and a flash card in its slot is precisely the solution to fit the bill. Also, the HP Omnibook series offers a large (20 or 40 MB) flashcard as an option, for the hopelessly battery-power paranoid (well...for those who want their Omnibook to run for 12 hours or so rather than the usual X number of ours with a regular hard drive). > Is it possible to write to these cards, put subdirectories on them, > revise and save files, delete files, copy files from them, just as > one can on, say, a floppy drive? Do they respond to all the usual > DOS commands? Can you use "join" or "append" to access the data as > you can with a regular floppy drive? > > Thanks for any advice. Yes to all of the above. Once you get the proper driver(s) to activiate the card & recognize it as a DOS drive, you're in business--works just like any other "hard drive". ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 11:04:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21207; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:04:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22841; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:49:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:49:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22825; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:49:03 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.36] (mac36.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA19726; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:48:54 EDT Message-Id: <9504101448.AA19726@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:56:43 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation >I got some wonderful suggestions. One was to pop the card out and put it in >again. On my machine, running Warp, that causes it to lock up, requiring a >power-on reset. The other suggestion seems to involve making some choices in >the EZ-play softwaer that do not exist in the Warp OS/2 version (titled Plug >and Play for PCMCIA). Anyone have any other suggestions (I'm about to go back >to the Thinkpad drivers for PCMCIA rather than using the Warp drivers). I'm using Plug and Play for PCMCIA v. 1.00 on a 750 under WARP. I'm pretty sure I'm using the Thinkpad version, but I'm not absolutely sure. I have absolutely no problems hot plugging any card. You should not have to live with this. Unlike my windows experience, hot plugging the lan card doesn't even lock tcpip. Unfortunately, getting card info does not reset the card under WARP, leaving hot plugging as the only alternative I can find for resetting the card. Does anyone know a better way under WARP? ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 12:01:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25705; Mon, 10 Apr 95 12:01:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28926; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:46:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:46:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from internet-mail.ford.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28909; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:46:18 -0400 Received: from sun1.apo.ford.com (sun1old.apo.ford.com) by internet-mail.ford.com with SMTP id AA29663 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:46:14 -0400 Received: from ren0010.so.ford.com by sun1.apo.ford.com (5.0/Ford 2.0) via id AA02140; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:38:42 +0500 Received: from REN0010/PMAIL by ren0010.so.ford.com (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:46:02 +1100 Received: from PMAIL by REN0010 (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:45:39 +1100 From: "Adam Wilkinson" To: Randal Whittle , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:45:27 EST Subject: Re: Flash Cards Reply-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Confirm-Reading-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <11480CA43CC@ren0010.so.ford.com> > From: Randal Whittle > Subject: Re: Flash Cards > To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (Annelise Anderson) > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 07:13:37 -0700 (PDT) > Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) > > I am curious about how flashcards, that is pcmcia memory cards, work > > on the ThinkPads. > > > > I saw one listed for about $300 that was provided 2.5 MB. That seems > > like expensive memory to me! > > It certainly isn't cheap. The price you're quoting is quite a > bit on the high side. I'm fairly certain you can get a 5 MB card for > about that same price. > > You have to understand though, this isn't the kind of thing you > just whimsically buy and use. It is something that is has special > purposes for special needs. > > The reason I have one (and yes, it does work in my ThinkPad, > but after trying it out a year ago, I've not put it in since--simply > haven't the need) is because I have an HP 100LX--one of those little > "palmtop" computers. This animal is woefully under-powered in the > memory department, and a flash card in its slot is precisely the > solution to fit the bill. Also, the HP Omnibook series offers a > large (20 or 40 MB) flashcard as an option, for the hopelessly > battery-power paranoid (well...for those who want their Omnibook to > run for 12 hours or so rather than the usual X number of ours with > a regular hard drive). > > > Is it possible to write to these cards, put subdirectories on them, > > revise and save files, delete files, copy files from them, just as > > one can on, say, a floppy drive? Do they respond to all the usual > > DOS commands? Can you use "join" or "append" to access the data as > > you can with a regular floppy drive? > > > > Thanks for any advice. > > Yes to all of the above. > > Once you get the proper driver(s) to activiate the card & > recognize it as a DOS drive, you're in business--works just like any > other "hard drive". > > ----- ___________________________ > Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | > USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | > (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | > right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | > --------------------------- I think the fact being lost here is that these are SRAM (Static RAM) cards, there fore the added expense. SRAM is more expensive that DRAM (what is used to expand our machine's base RAM), in addition, I believe there is additional intelligence required to allow the device emulate traditional magnetic storage. $50/MB is a reasonable price for ThinkPad DRAM, but much to cheap for SRAM cards. -- Adam Lee Wilkinson Portable Computing Technology Specialist Ford Motor Co. - Marketing & Sales Systems awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 13:29:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03611; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:29:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05616; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:07:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:07:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05606; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:06:59 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA26119; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 12:06:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9504101706.AA26119@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 12:07:50 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: Flash Cards On Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:45:27 EST you wrote: >> > I am curious about how flashcards, that is pcmcia memory cards, work >> > on the ThinkPads. >> > >> > I saw one listed for about $300 that was provided 2.5 MB. That seems >> > like expensive memory to me! >> >> It certainly isn't cheap. The price you're quoting is quite a >> bit on the high side. I'm fairly certain you can get a 5 MB card for >> about that same price. >I think the fact being lost here is that these are SRAM (Static RAM) >cards, there fore the added expense. SRAM is more expensive that DRAM No, it's flash RAM. It's non-volatile -- doesn't need any power to maintain its contents. That's why you can use it like a hard drive. SRAM can be accessed while power is being supplied to it (refreshed) so it doesn't impose wait states. DRAM is inaccessible when being refreshed and you wind up with wait states. It's still expensive. Then again, I can remember trying to save up $200 for a 16k RAM expansion on my Atari 800. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 16:24:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14912; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:24:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21461; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:05:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:04:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.ge.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21438; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:04:51 -0400 Received: from thomas.ge.com ([3.47.28.21]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id QAA02569 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:04:49 -0400 Received: from salem.ge.com (carsdb.salem.ge.com [3.29.7.15]) by thomas.ge.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA12117 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:04:47 -0400 Received: from mhsgate.salem.ge.com by salem.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20722; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:04:54 EDT Received: by mhsgate.salem.ge.com from NetWare MHS, SMF-70 via XGATE 2.12 MHS to SMTP Gateway (XSMTP Module) Message-Id: <40DAC2380105AED1@mhsgate.salem.ge.com> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 15:59:00 EST From: Linn Ernest Y To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: Subject: Windows NT on TP755Cd X-Mailer: XGATE 2.12 MHS/SMTP Gateway Is there anyone who has loaded Windows NT on a 755CD? Are there any gotchas? We have loaded NT over our LAN and the OS works, but we can not get it to recognize our CD or video adapter. We haven't tried the internal modem, but would expect some problem there also. Ernie Linn From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 17:58:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20536; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:58:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29520; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:44:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:44:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29504; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:43:58 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01641; Mon, 10 Apr 95 14:42:51 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id OAA22745; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:42:46 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9504101442.ZM22743@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:42:45 -0700 In-Reply-To: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) "Re: Flash Cards" (Apr 10, 12:07pm) References: <9504101706.AA26119@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Flash Cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 10, 12:07pm, John H. Kim wrote: > Subject: Re: Flash Cards > On Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:45:27 EST you wrote: > > >> > I am curious about how flashcards, that is pcmcia memory cards, work > >> > on the ThinkPads. > > >I think the fact being lost here is that these are SRAM (Static RAM) > >cards, there fore the added expense. SRAM is more expensive that DRAM > > No, it's flash RAM. It's non-volatile -- doesn't need any power to > maintain its contents. That's why you can use it like a hard drive. > SRAM can be accessed while power is being supplied to it (refreshed) > so it doesn't impose wait states. DRAM is inaccessible when being > refreshed and you wind up with wait states. Static RAM does not have a refresh state. A Dynamic RAM data element (bit) is implemented with a single current transistor, which essentially acts as a capacitor. Since capacitors exhibit current leakage, you have to periodically "refresh" the transistor by essentially reading the element. The elements are arranged in rows, and you have to read out an entire row into an internal buffer to read a single bit. Thus, you are refreshing rows at a time. Static RAM elements are implemented with four transistors forming a flip-flop gate. This is why they have much lower densities than Dynamic RAM's. The flip-flop will maintain its state until the power to the chip is shut off -- there is no refresh. You can also access individual bits without waiting for the row strobe (RAS) to come by, which is one of the reasons SRAM is much faster than DRAM. FLASH memories are relatives of EEPROM's (electrically eraseable programmable read-only memories). They are *very* slow compared with SRAM's and DRAM's, although they are still orders of magnitude faster than hard drives. They also suffer a relatively short read/write cycle life. In other words, after awhile you're going to wear out the card. I'm not sure what the lifespan is, but it is quite long. The PCMCIA bios also circulates data across the FLASH sectors to distribute the read/write usage. Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 18:49:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24494; Mon, 10 Apr 95 18:49:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04115; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:35:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:35:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04103; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:35:47 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA19893; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:35:39 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA22762; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:35:37 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504102235.PAA22762@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Flash Cards To: jokim@mit.edu Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9504101706.AA26119@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> from "John H. Kim" at Apr 10, 95 12:07:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > No, it's flash RAM. It's non-volatile -- doesn't need any power to Technically John, they don't call it "Flash RAM" because its not really "RAM" at all. The preferred method of referring to it these days seems to be "Flash Memory". ;) ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 18:56:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24938; Mon, 10 Apr 95 18:56:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04461; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:43:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:43:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04450; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:43:56 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA21034; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:43:53 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA24054; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:43:51 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504102243.PAA24054@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Flash Cards To: george@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9504101442.ZM22743@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> from "Robert George" at Apr 10, 95 02:42:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > suffer a relatively short read/write cycle life. In other words, after awhi > you're going to wear out the card. I'm not sure what the lifespan is, but it > is quite long. The PCMCIA bios also circulates data across the FLASH sectors > to distribute the read/write usage. > > Robert All ofthe major vendors of Flash Memory cards (which are usually all built by either Intel or Sun (I think its Sun)) offer "Lifetime" warranties. Nobody has actually reported their flash card "wearing out" by normal use, so realistically speaking, one need not worry about the card's lifespan. It will be long obsolete before it has a chance to wear out--which isn't likely to be in yours or my lifetime. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 10 19:26:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27345; Mon, 10 Apr 95 19:26:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24015; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:38:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:38:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from ns9000.furman.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24005; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:38:42 -0400 From: Received: from by ns9000.furman.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA049296800; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:46:40 -0400 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:45:59 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: Windows 95 Preview Program To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Item Subject: Message text Hello, all. I've ordered the Windows 95 Preview Program and hope to soon be installing it on my ThinkPad 750. I'll let everyone on the list know how it goes. As an OS/2 user, I probably won't be that impressed, but I'll stay optimistic and open-minded. In any event, I was wondering if anyone out there has had previous experience with Windows 95 betas on TP750s. I know that Microsoft doesn't like people talking about its beta software, but if anyone out there isn't under a license agreement that keeps them from talking about it, I would appreciate it if you could tell me about any install snafus. Specifically, does Win95 come with an appropriate inventory of drivers (video, sound, APM, PCMCIA, etc.) or must the functionality be patched together from the existing DOS/Windows drivers? Also, I would appreciate general comments on the stability and speed of Windows 95, particularly with a SLIP connection and lots of 16-bit Windows apps, as well as DOS games. Thank you. Wesley T. Dunaway Dunaway_Wesley/furman@furman.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 21:11:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04702; Mon, 10 Apr 95 21:11:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12271; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:02:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:01:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12261; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:01:54 -0400 Received: from by (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA24878 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:09:56 +0900 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:09:56 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199504110109.KAA24878@Pion> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755C, DockII (with Adaptec SCSI), and Linux - THANKYOU!!! To Brad Pepers and Derek Chan: I tried to email you both directly, but the mail bounced. So I am posting here.... I would like to thank you both very much for helping me get my Dock II working with Linux and SCSI. Your assistence and advice helped me greatly!!! Thank you. -Lee Hounshell lee@tcs.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 10 21:59:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07993; Mon, 10 Apr 95 21:59:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15292; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:49:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:49:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15274; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:48:58 -0400 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8660) id <01HP6N1D30BW0057KZ@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:50:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: Flash Card Info--Thanks To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HP6N1D30BY0057KZ@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" X-Vms-Cc: ANDRSN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Many thanks to all who explained about flash cards, initializing them, and so forth. It's been very, very helpful. Annelise From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 04:47:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04269; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:47:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12045; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 04:32:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 04:32:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dub-img-4.compuserve.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12033; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 04:32:27 -0400 Received: by dub-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.941228sam) id EAA12452; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 04:31:51 -0400 Date: 11 Apr 95 04:30:20 EDT From: Joachim Kuhn <100042.2161@compuserve.com> To: Subject: 755C/810MB and SCO dont work?? Message-Id: <950411083020_100042.2161_EHK130-1@CompuServe.COM> Hello, I want to install on my TP755C a 810MB Drive and want to run one Partition under SCO UNIX 3.2.4.2! [My340 MB drive works fine (140 mb dos and 200 mb SCO); I used the EFS130 from SCO to install it, to get a special /boot programm for the IBM-kind of disks] This does NOT work on the 810 MB, because there is "LBA" on the Diskcontroller to run 810 MB under MS-DOS(LBA makes 786 cyls instead of the 1571 and 32 heads instead of 16 for ms-dos, or something like this). Of course I know, that the root-filesystem must be within the first 1024 cyls. Who can help me? Joachim Kuhn Lindauerstr. 6 D-87439 Kempten Tel. +49 831 511351 Fax +49 831 511352 INTERNET: 100042.2161@compuserve.com - E-Mail from Joachim Kuhn, 100042,2161 - D-87439 Kempten, Germany - 11-Apr-1995, 10:10:24 MESZ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 11:55:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28185; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:55:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15150; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:36:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:36:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15134; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:35:58 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144278>; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:35:37 -0400 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: MWAVE and OS2 Message-Id: <95Apr11.113537edt.144278@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:35:20 -0400 Hi all, I've postponed installing Linux on my 755CE and installed OS/2 Warp over the weekend. Plenty of nagging problems with display drivers and so forth. I think I have solved most of them, but I have a persistent problem with getting MWAVE to run. When I try to engage the OS2 MWAVE-modem, it complains about a driver not being installed, although I distinctly did install the MWAVE software (twice, in fact). As a result, none of the DSP related stuff works on OS2. I also installed an MWAVE DOS/Windows/OS2 upgrade I got from fto.pcco.ibm.com. MWAVE continues to work very well under DOS and Win, but not under OS2. If anyone has experience with getting MWAVE to run under OS2, I'd appreciate some tips. Another little question, the "selective install" box in my OS2 setup has disappeared, although the "selective uninstall" box remains. How do I get it back into my desktop again? I don't know where the executable is located. Overall, I like OS2, probably because it feels more like UNIX than the others; but the screen driver only supports 8-bit colour, so I find myself going back to Windows. My main reason for getting it was for the extras bundled in with it, but given the effort I've put in to it, I have a feeling I'd have been better off going straight to Linux. So it goes. Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 12:09:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29251; Tue, 11 Apr 95 12:09:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16372; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:51:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:51:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dub-img-3.compuserve.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16357; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:51:14 -0400 Received: by dub-img-3.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.941228sam) id LAA23944; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:50:41 -0400 Date: 11 Apr 95 11:40:39 EDT From: Joachim Kuhn <100042.2161@compuserve.com> To: Subject: indroduce myself Message-Id: <950411154038_100042.2161_EHK85-1@CompuServe.COM> I am Joachim Kuhn from Germany an I am working with my thinkpads under SCO UNIX and MS-DOS. somtimes there are Problems with UNIX on the TP. Therefor I am looking for help here in this Forum. (I am developing commercial SW under SCO UNIX and Foxbase+ ; of cours on my TP) and: Sorry about my English! Joachim Kuhn Lindauerstr. 6 D-87439 Kempten Germany Tel. +49 831 511351 Fax +49 831 511352 INTERNET: 100042.2161@compuserve.com - E-Mail from Joachim Kuhn, 100042,2161 - D-87439 Kempten, Germany - 11-Apr-1995, 17:32:15 MESZ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 13:57:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06844; Tue, 11 Apr 95 13:57:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24873; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 13:44:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 13:44:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24861; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 13:44:39 -0400 Received: from phakt.usc.edu (whittle@phakt.usc.edu [128.125.253.144]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA03869 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:44:35 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by phakt.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA20744 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:44:33 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504111744.KAA20744@phakt.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Flash Cards To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:44:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199504102243.PAA24054@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Apr 10, 95 03:43:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > All ofthe major vendors of Flash Memory cards (which are usually > all built by either Intel or Sun (I think its Sun)) offer "Lifetime" > warranties. Nobody has actually reported their flash card "wearing out" Pardon me as I comment on my own writing, but its not "Sun" that makes these, it is a company called "Sundisk". As I understand it, all flash cards are manufactured by either Intel or Sundisk and the rest of the companies who have their names on flash cards are private labeling them from one of these two (usually Sundisk--the Intel flash cards use a different method of recognizing the card which is much less popular than Sundisks' "ATA" type cards. The only major item that uses the Intel-type cards are the Apple Newtons). ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 14:12:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08731; Tue, 11 Apr 95 14:12:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25882; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:00:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:00:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25866; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:00:08 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA00759; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:59:24 MDT Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:59:24 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9504111759.AA00759@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: MWAVE and OS2 > If anyone has experience with getting MWAVE to run under OS2, > I'd appreciate some tips. Sorry I can't help with the MWAVE problem...my lowly 360 wouldn't know what to do with an MWAVE chip it had one ;) (Now that I think about it, maybe this does help, as you should be consoled by the fact that you have a 755CE and not a 360C!) > Overall, I like OS2, probably because it feels more like UNIX than the others; > but the screen driver only supports 8-bit colour, so I find myself going back > to Windows. My main reason for getting it was for the extras bundled in with > it, but given the effort I've put in to it, I have a feeling I'd have been > better off going straight to Linux. So it goes. I got a kick outta this as a result of my experience with Linux here at work. I've been trying to help a fellow OS/2 user to set up Linux on one of his Gateway PC's, and it's been a struggle to (among other things) get the video configured correctly. Since we are predominately UNIX-oriented here, he figured it would be easier network this machine with Linux than with OS/2. Anyway, to just come right to the point, I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard him say "I would've been better off with OS/2." (If I had two dollars for every utterance, I too could probably afford a 755CE before very much longer!) This is not to say that one OS is superior to the other; rather, it's to point out that the grass always seems to be greener on the other side... Good luck with your MWAVE problems. -- Karl E. Yeanoplos Denver, CO. kyeanopl@den.mmc.com / key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 14:33:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09690; Tue, 11 Apr 95 14:33:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27193; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:16:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:16:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27180; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:16:30 -0400 Received: from bnme (bnme.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.152.138]) by cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA22741; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:15:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:15:14 -0400 Message-Id: <199504111815.OAA22741@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: bnm@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1b10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Eugene Fiume , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "Brooks N. McNeely" Subject: Re: MWAVE and OS2 At 11:35 AM 4/11/95 -0400, Eugene Fiume wrote: >Hi all, >I've postponed installing Linux on my 755CE and installed OS/2 Warp over the >weekend. Plenty of nagging problems with display drivers and so forth. I >think I have solved most of them, but I have a persistent problem with getting >MWAVE to run. When I try to engage the OS2 MWAVE-modem, it complains about >a driver not being installed, although I distinctly did install the MWAVE >software (twice, in fact). As a result, none of the DSP related stuff >works on OS2. I also installed an MWAVE DOS/Windows/OS2 upgrade I got >from fto.pcco.ibm.com. MWAVE continues to work very well under DOS and >Win, but not under OS2. If anyone has experience with getting MWAVE to >run under OS2, I'd appreciate some tips. > This week's PC Week (maybe InfoWorld) has an article talking about various glitches in high-end mobile units. I believe that this is where I saw a reference that stated that the OS/2 MWAVE drivers do not work on systems with memory >= 16M. According to what I read, IBM was expected to have a fix by the end of April. Of course I'm not sure of any of this. Brooks From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 15:27:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13665; Tue, 11 Apr 95 15:27:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01103; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 15:13:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 15:13:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01093; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 15:13:51 -0400 Received: from mail.hooked.net (webe.hooked.net [199.2.134.9]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA22431; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 12:08:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199504111908.MAA22431@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 12:09:02 -0700 To: , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Windows 95 Preview Program At 04:45 PM 4/10/95 -0400, Dunaway_Wesley/furman@furman.edu wrote: >In any event, I was wondering if anyone out there has had previous >experience with Windows 95 betas on TP750s. I've been running win95 on my 755cs since last october.. sucks less than windows :) Personally, I like it more than os/2, but that's not an assessment of quality (I think os/2 is better) it's because I run windows apps. On a cosmetic note, I really like the look and feel of win95. >I would appreciate it if you could tell me about >any install snafus. The october build was a bit rough, but I just installed the preview build last week and it went smoothly. >Specifically, does Win95 come with an >appropriate inventory of drivers (video, sound, APM, PCMCIA, etc.) >or must the functionality be patched together from the existing >DOS/Windows drivers? I used the dos/windows drivers for audio/video, the pcmcia worked with win95 drivers. >Also, I would appreciate general comments on >the stability and speed of Windows 95, Speed seems the same as win3.1 to me, stability is better than 3.1, which is to say that I still crash, but not nearly as often. I should add that I run a lot of stuff all at once, and did run into resource problems in 3.1 that are gone in win95, so I'm happy with it if only for that. >particularly with a SLIP >connection The built-in SLIP/PPP is probably okay, but woefully underfeatured. There is no way to automate login scripts, etc. I use trumpet 2.0b, eudora 2.0.3, netscape 1.1b3, ewan 1.052 (telnet), ws_ftp 94.10.18, and all are very stable. Eudora does crash on exit about 10% of the time, but it did that for me in win3.1 as well. >and lots of 16-bit Windows apps, as well as DOS games. The only 16bit apps I've had a terrible time with are photoshop, and caligari's truespace. Both run, but crash frequently in consistant places. Other than that, stuff pretty much just runs. I've played doom, descent, xcom, heretic, civilization, system shock, etc, all with no problems.. or sound, of course.. :( ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 17:16:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21155; Tue, 11 Apr 95 17:16:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11536; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:01:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:01:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11514; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:01:34 -0400 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.10+PanixU1.0) id RAA22692; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:00:49 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:00:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Best source of DIMMs Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm in the market for DIMMs for my new 755cd. Are there any mail-order dealers that people could recommend? How much would 8MB cost? What about 16MB? Thanks! Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 17:40:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23214; Tue, 11 Apr 95 17:40:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13598; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:21:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:21:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13571; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:21:40 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA29189; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 16:21:37 -0500 Message-Id: <9504112121.AA29189@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 16:22:30 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: MWAVE and OS2 On Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:35:20 -0400 you wrote: >Another little question, the "selective install" box in my OS2 setup >has disappeared, although the "selective uninstall" box remains. How >do I get it back into my desktop again? I don't know where the executable >is located. It's in (surprise!) \os2\install Executable name is (surprise!) install.exe. It should be in your path so you can just type 'install' to run it. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 17:53:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24409; Tue, 11 Apr 95 17:53:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14523; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:33:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:33:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14507; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:33:50 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA09869 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:33:47 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA34437; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:34:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:34:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Prod. Announcements: Thinkpads Withdrawn Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Looks like someone forgot to proofread this announcement before it went out, there's no mention of what the replacement products are. I guess when the next batch of thinkpad's come out that there will be a new 3xx model (presumably a dx4/75), and the 7xx will be a Pentium 75 or 90. JH --------- Withdrawal: Selected IBM ThinkPad Systems and Mobile Features -- Replacements Available Announced on April 11, 1995 HARDWARE Announcement 195-111 Effective May 12, 1995, IBM will withdraw from marketing the products listed in the Withdrawn Products section. You can no longer obtain these products directly from IBM; however, you can obtain the products on an as-available basis through IBM authorized remarketers with an approved value add and/or IBM Authorized Personal Computer Dealers. The withdrawn products may also be obtained on an as-available basis by calling IBM PC Direct(1) at 800-IBM-2YOU (426-2968). Replacement Product Information: Refer to the Replacement Products section for a list of available replacement products. (1) Trademark of Ziff Communications Company and is used by IBM Corporation under license. WITHDRAWN PRODUCTS Top Bill Machine Order Part Description Type Model Number Number ThinkPad(R) 510Cs 2604 C2U 2604C2U ThinkPad 340 2610 I13 2610I13 84G6610 ThinkPad 340 2610 4UI 26104UI ThinkPad 355 2619 I15 2619I15 86G6105 ThinkPad 355Cs 2619 K20 2619K20 86G6106 ThinkPad 355Cs 2619 K25 2619K25 86G6107 ThinkPad 355C 2619 L50 2619L50 86G6247 ThinkPad 355C 2619 L55 2619L55 86G6248 ThinkPad 360 2620 OOD 2620OOD ThinkPad 360 2620 OOF 2620OOF ThinkPad 360Cs 2620 20D 262020D IBM Traveling MultiMedia 360Cs 2337290 2337290 ThinkPad 360P 2620 50D 262050D ThinkPad 360CSE 2620 80D 262080D ThinkPad 360CE 2620 90D 262690D ThinkPad 755Cs 9545 EOC 9545EOC 84G2327 ThinkPad 755Cs 9545 EOE 9545EOE 84G2328 ThinkPad 755Cs 9545 EOG 9545EOG 84G2329 ThinkPad 755Cs 9545 KOC 9545KOC 84G4156 ThinkPad 755Cs 9545 KOE 9545KOE 84G4159 ThinkPad 755Cs 9545 KOG 9545KOG 84G4162 ThinkPad 755C 9545 FOC 9545FOC 84G2324 ThinkPad 755C 9545 LOC 9545LOC 84G2325 REPLACEMENT PRODUCTS The withdrawn products have been replaced by the following products. Note: All optional features and accessories listed below are being withdrawn from all models to which they apply. Optional Features Feature Part Replaced Description Number Number By ThinkPad Carrying Case (for ThinkPad 750/755 systems and 3545 Dock I systems) 7679 66G3585 TPG8500 ThinkPad 40W Worldwide AC Adapter (for ThinkPads 750, 750C, 750Cs, 750P, 755C, 755CE, 755CSE, and 755C3138 49G2165 85G6680* Car Adapter (for ThinkPad 350/350C systems) 1726 6451168 None ThinkPad IC DRAM 16MB 3.5 V Memory (no parity) (for ThinkPad 500 and 53867 8189113 None ThinkPad DIMM 4MB 5 V Memory (with parity) (for ThinkPads 755C, 755Cs, and 755CE/CSE/CD) 1858 84G2152 92G7253 (OBI) ThinkPad DIMM 8MB 5 V Memory (with parity) (for ThinkPads 755C, 755Cs, and 755CE/CSE/CD) 3889 84G6539 92G7255 (OBI) ThinkPad DIMM 16MB 5 V Memory (with parity) (for ThinkPads 755C, 755Cs, and 755CE/CSE/CD) 1860 84G2153 92G7257 (OBI) ThinkPad 40W Travel AC Adapter (U.S. only) with retractable prongs (for ThinkPads 750, 750C, 750Cs, 750P, 755Cs, and0610C) 84G2148 85G6680* ThinkPad 170MB HDD (for ThinkPad 750, 750C, 750Cs, 750P, 755Cs, 755C, 755CE, 755CSE, 360, 360C, 360Cs, and 37629 66G2847 66G2849** (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation * 35W AC Adapter for these systems ** The 66G2849 340MB HDD can be used on all these systems. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 18:10:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25215; Tue, 11 Apr 95 18:10:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14705; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:36:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:36:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14683; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:36:13 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA10134 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:36:04 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA44270; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:36:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 17:36:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Product Announcement: Memory options Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Options by IBM: Low-Power IC DRAM and SO DIMM Memory Upgrades Announced on April 11, 1995 HARDWARE Announcement 195-113 +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | IN BRIEF . . . | | | | Cost-effective solution for upgrading to accommodate larger and | | more powerful operating systems and applications | | | | o IC DRAM Memory | | | | - Packaged on an 88-pin, credit card-sized, durable, | | stainless steel card | | | | - Designed to function in systems with slots conforming to | | JEIDA/JEDEC standard guidelines 1.0 and 2.0 | | | | o SO DIMM Memory | | | | - Packaged on a 72-pin, small outline, space-saving card | | | | - Designed to function in systems that support 16-, 32-, and | | 64-bit applications | | | | Systems supported: Thinkpad 755 | | | | For technical support: | | | | o Call HelpCenter(R) (800-426-7299) | | or | | o Request technical information via IBM Faxback (800-426-3395) | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ Four 70ns memory upgrade products are introduced for ThinkPad(R) 755 systems as part of the IBM family of low-power (LP) memory expansion cards: o 32MB IC DRAM Memory -- 70ns 5v LP Parity o 4MB SO DIMM Memory -- 70ns 5v LP Parity o 8MB SO DIMM Memory -- 70ns 5v LP Parity o 16MB SO DIMM Memory -- 70ns 5v LP Parity The IBM IC (integrated circuit) DRAM (direct random access memory) card is a credit card-sized memory expansion option designed for ThinkPad and other laptop or portable computer applications. This new option expands the current capacity of IC DRAM that plugs into a ThinkPad 755 system. The SO (small outline) DIMMs (dual inline memory modules) are also memory expansion options designed for ThinkPad 755 systems and packaged in a small space-saving card. These "SIMM-like" cards are replacements for ThinkPad Options. A memory card adapter (84G2151) is a prerequisite option for the SO DIMMs. With the prerequisite adapter, two SO DIMMs can be plugged in at one time. Planned Single Part Availability Unit Description Number Date Price 32MB IC DRAM Memory 70ns 5v LP Parity 92G7235 4/11/95 $2,129 4MB SO DIMM Memory 70ns 5v LP Parity 92G7253 4/11/95 309 8MB SO DIMM Memory 70ns 5v LP Parity 92G7255 6/23/95 695 16MB SO DIMM Memory 70ns 5v LP Parity 92G7257 6/23/95 1,095 (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation IBM 32MB IC DRAM MEMORY -- 70NS 5V LP PARITY (92G7235) The 32MB IC DRAM Memory (#2123, 92G7235) upgrade card offers 32MB of LP memory expansion for laptop and desktop systems. This credit card-sized IC DRAM card can expand the internal memory of a laptop or desktop by 32MB simply by inserting it into an IC DRAM slot. Expanded DRAM capabilities can enable higher application performance and more efficient system operation. As part of an IBM family of low-power memory expansion cards, the 32MB IC DRAM Memory card supports low-power applications and aids in the extension of a laptop battery's operational life between recharges, as compared to non-low-power memory. The card is packaged in IBM's durable, laser-welded, stainless steel package, and is quick and convenient to install. The 32MB IC DRAM Memory card is organized as 8M x 36 bits, supports parity, operates at 5 volts LP with an access time of 70ns, and is packaged in an 88-pin, credit card-sized, durable, stainless steel card. It is designed to function in systems with slots conforming to the JEIDA (Japan Electrical Industry Development Association)/JEDEC (Joint Electronic Device Engineering Council) industry standard guidelines 1.0 and 2.0 for DRAM cards. Product Positioning: The 32MB IC DRAM Memory card provides a logical growth path for system memory upgrades in IBM laptop systems. This upgrade is an expansion of the IBM family of low-power memory expansion options designed on a convenient and small form factor for laptops and portables with compatible slots. With larger and more powerful operating systems and applications becoming available, this new 32MB upgrade can provide you with a cost-effective solution. If only one upgrade slot is available on the system, you may want to evaluate upgrading to the maximum, based on immediate and projected future requirements. Availability Date: April 11, 1995 Technical Information Physical Specifications o Width: 54.1 mm (2.13 in.) o Depth: 3.5 mm (.138 in.) o Length: 85.8 mm (3.38 in.) o Weight: 42.6 gm (1.5 oz) Operating Environment o Temperature: 0(degs)C to 55(degs)C (32(degs)F to 131(degs) F) o Relative humidity: 95% maximum o Operating current: 1280mA maximum Agency Approvals: Meets required operating criteria. Original Country of Origin: Assembled in Canada. Components may be manufactured in the U.S.A., Japan, Korea, Germany, Italy, or Ireland. Note: This may vary through the life of the product. Hardware Requirements -- IBM Systems: The IBM 32MB IC DRAM Card 70ns, 88-pin, 5v LP, Parity is supported on the following platforms: Machine Description Type Model ThinkPad 755 9545 (All) E0C, E0E, E0G, K0C, K0E, K0G, F0C, F0E, F0G, L0C, L0E, L0G, 6BC, 6BD, 6BE, 7BC, 7BD, 7BE, 9BD, 9BE Hardware Requirements -- Non-IBM Systems o 70ns o 8M x 36 bits organization o Parity (5 volts) o 88-pin IC DRAM sockets compatible with the JEIDA/JEDEC industry standard guidelines 1.0 and 2.0 for DRAM cards Software Requirements o IBM DOS 5.02, or later, and Windows+ 3.1 o MS-DOS 5.0, or later, and Windows 3.1 o OS/2(R) 2.1, or later Compatibility: This product is designed for IBM laptop systems that support the JEIDA/JEDEC industry standard for IC DRAM Cards and the specifications as outlined in the Hardware Requirements section. Note: Some configurations may not be compatible. Limitations: An open compatible slot as specified in the Hardware Requirements section is required. Planning Information Cable Orders Required: No Installation Time: 15 minutes (average) Packaging: One box Shipment Group o IBM 32MB IC DRAM Upgrade 70ns 5v LP Parity o Installation and User's Guide o Registration Card Note: An Options by IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement (S83G-8275) is available in support of this product. Security, Auditability and Control This product uses the security and auditability features of the host hardware. User management is responsible for evaluation, selection, and implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. Terms and Conditions Field Installable Y Customer Setup Y Warranty: Period 3 Years Service Support Y Service Type CCE Maintenance Agreement N All other terms and conditions are the same as those applicable to the IBM machine type in which the feature is installed. Help and Service Information During the warranty period, technical support is available (800-426-7299) 24 hours a day, seven days a week, for answering any questions about your new IBM option. If you need warranty service, return or exchange is available. In addition, if your IBM option is installed in an IBM computer, you may be entitled to service at your location. Your technical support representative can help you determine the best alternative. Charges Single Part Unit Description Number Price* 32MB IC DRAM 5v Parity 92G7235 $2,129 * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit, in any way, the remarketer's ability to set prices for this IBM product. IBM 4MB SO DIMM MEMORY -- 70NS 5V LP PARITY (92G7253) The 4MB SO DIMM Memory (#3972, 92G7253) upgrade card offers 4MB of low-power memory expansion to laptop systems. This small outline, space-saving, 72-pin DIMM can expand the internal memory of a laptop by 4MB simply by inserting it into an SO DIMM slot on the prerequisite card (84G2151) that plugs into an IC DRAM socket. Expanded memory capabilities can enable higher application performance and more efficient system operation. As part of an IBM family of low-power memory expansion cards, the 4MB SO DIMM Memory card supports low-power applications and aids in the extension of a laptop battery's operational life between recharges, as compared to non-low-power memory. The cards are packaged in a small form approximately 2.35-inches long by 1-inch high with 72-pin gold-plated contacts on a staggered, dual row. The 4MB SO DIMM Memory card is organized as 1M x 36 bits, supports parity, operates at 5 volts LP with an access time of 70ns, and is packaged on a 72-pin, small outline, space-saving card. It is designed to function in systems that support 16-, 32-, and 64-bit applications. Product Positioning: The 4MB SO DIMM Memory card provides a logical growth path for system memory upgrades in IBM laptop systems. This upgrade is part of an IBM family of low-power memory expansion options designed on a small form factor for laptops and portables with compatible slots. With larger and more powerful operating systems and applications becoming available, the 4MB upgrade can provide you with a cost-effective solution. Using the prerequisite card (84G2151), two SO DIMM cards can be plugged into this card. You may want to evaluate upgrading to the maximum, based on immediate and projected future requirements. Availability Date: April 11, 1995 Technical Information Physical Specifications o Width: 25.4 mm (1.00 in.) o Depth: 3.8 mm (.15 in.) o Length: 59.69 mm (2.35 in.) o Weight: 14.2 gm (0.5 oz) Operating Environment o Temperature: 0(degs)C to 55(degs)C (32(degs)F to 131(degs)F) o Relative humidity: 95% maximum o Operating current: 640mA maximum Agency Approvals: Meets required operating criteria. Original Country of Origin: Assembled in Canada. Components may be manufactured in the U.S.A., Japan, Korea, Germany, Italy, or Ireland. Note: This may vary through the life of the product. Hardware Requirements -- IBM Systems: The IBM 4MB SO DIMM Card 70ns, 72-pin, 5v LP Parity is supported on the following platforms: Machine Description Type Model ThinkPad 755 9545 (All) E0C, E0E, E0G, K0C, K0E, K0G, F0C, F0E, F0G, L0C, L0E, L0G, 6BC, 6BD, 6BE, 7BC, 7BD, 7BE, 9BD, 9BE Note: The prerequisite card (84G2151) must be installed in the ThinkPad 755. Hardware Requirements -- Non-IBM Systems o 70ns o 1M x 36 bits organization o Parity (5 volts) o 72-pin SO DIMM sockets compatible with staggered, dual-row mating Software Requirements o IBM DOS 5.02, or later, and Windows 3.1 o MS-DOS 5.0, or later, and Windows 3.1 o OS/2 2.1, or later Compatibility: This product is designed for IBM laptop systems that support SO DIMM Cards and the specifications as outlined in the Hardware Requirements section. Note: Some configurations may not be compatible. Limitations: An open compatible slot as specified in the Hardware Requirements section is required. Planning Information Cable Orders Required: No Installation Time: 15 minutes (average) Packaging: One box Shipment Group o IBM 4MB SO DIMM Upgrade 70ns 5v LP Parity o Installation and User's Guide o Registration Card Note: An Options by IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement (S83G-8275) is available in support of this product. Security, Auditability and Control This product uses the security and auditability features of the host hardware. User management is responsible for evaluation, selection, and implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. Terms and Conditions Field Installable Y Customer Setup Y Warranty: Period 3 Years Service Support CCE Service Type CCE Maintenance Agreement N All other terms and conditions are the same as those applicable to the IBM machine type in which the feature is installed. Help and Service Information During the warranty period, technical support is available (800-426-7299) 24 hours a day, seven days a week, for answering any questions about your new IBM option. If you need warranty service, return or exchange is available. In addition, if your IBM option is installed in an IBM computer, you may be entitled to service at your location. Your technical support representative can help you determine the best alternative. Charges Single Part Unit Description Number Price* 4MB SO DIMM 5v Parity 92G7253 $309 * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit, in any way, the remarketer's ability to set prices for this IBM product. IBM 8MB SO DIMM MEMORY -- 70NS 5V LP PARITY (92G7255) The 8MB SO DIMM Memory (#4243, 92G7255) upgrade card offers 8MB of low-power memory expansion to laptop systems. This small outline, space-saving, 72-pin DIMM can expand the internal memory of a laptop by 8MB simply by inserting it into an SO DIMM slot on the prerequisite card (84G2151) that plugs into an IC DRAM socket. Expanded memory capabilities can enable higher application performance and more efficient system operation. As part of an IBM family of low-power memory expansion cards, the 8MB SO DIMM Memory card supports low-power applications and aids in the extension of a laptop battery's operational life between recharges, as compared to non-low-power memory. The cards are packaged in a small form approximately 2.35-inches long by 1-inch high with 72-pin, gold-plated contacts on a staggered, dual row. The 8MB SO DIMM Memory card is organized as 2M x 36 bits, supports parity, operates at 5 volts LP with an access time of 70ns, and is packaged on a 72-pin, small outline, space-saving card. It is designed to function in systems that support 16-, 32-, and 64-bit applications. Product Positioning: The 8MB SO DIMM Memory card provides a logical growth path for system memory upgrades in IBM laptop systems. This upgrade is part of an IBM family of low-power memory expansion options designed on a small form factor for laptops and portables with compatible slots. With larger and more powerful operating systems and applications becoming available, the 8MB upgrade can provide you with a cost-effective solution. Using the prerequisite card (84G2151), two SO DIMM cards can be plugged into this card. You may want to evaluate upgrading to the maximum, based on immediate and projected future requirements. Planned Availability Date: June 23, 1995 Technical Information Physical Specifications o Width: 25.4 mm (1.00 in.) o Depth: 3.8 mm (.15 in.) o Length: 59.69 mm (2.35 in.) o Weight: 28.4 gm (1.0 oz) Operating Environment o Temperature: 0(degs)C to 55(degs)C (32(degs)F to 131(degs)F) o Relative humidity: 95% maximum o Operating current: 640mA maximum Agency Approvals: Meets required operating criteria. Original Country of Origin: Assembled in Canada. Components may be manufactured in the U.S.A., Japan, Korea, Germany, Italy, or Ireland. Note: This may vary through the life of the product. Hardware Requirements -- IBM Systems: The IBM 8MB SO DIMM Card 70ns, 72-pin, 5v LP Parity is supported on the following platforms: Machine Description Type Model ThinkPad 755 9545 (All) E0C, E0E, E0G, K0C, K0E, K0G, F0C, F0E, F0G, L0C, L0E, L0G, 6BC, 6BD, 6BE, 7BC, 7BD, 7BE, 9BD, 9BE Note: The prerequisite card (84G2151) must to be installed in the ThinkPad 755. Hardware Requirements -- Non-IBM Systems o 70ns o 1M x 36 bits organization o Parity (5 volts) o 72-pin SO DIMM sockets compatible with staggered, dual-row mating Software Requirements o IBM DOS 5.02, or later, and Windows 3.1 o MS-DOS 5.0, or later, and Windows 3.1 o OS/2 2.1, or later Compatibility: This product is designed for IBM laptop systems that support SO DIMM Cards and the specifications as outlined in the Hardware Requirements section. Note: Some configurations may not be compatible. Limitations: An open compatible slot as specified in the Hardware Requirements section is required. Planning Information Cable Orders Required: No Installation Time: 15 minutes (average) Packaging: One box Shipment Group o IBM 8MB SO DIMM Upgrade 70ns 5v LP Parity o Installation and User's Guide o Registration Card Note: An Options by IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement (S83G-8275) is available in support of this product. Security, Auditability and Control This product uses the security and auditability features of the host hardware. User management is responsible for evaluation, selection, and implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. Terms and Conditions Field Installable Y Customer Setup Y Warranty: Period 3 Years Service Support CCE Service Type CCE Maintenance Agreement N All other terms and conditions are the same as those applicable to the IBM machine type in which the feature is installed. Help and Service Information During the warranty period, technical support is available (800-426-7299) 24 hours a day, seven days a week, for answering any questions about your new IBM option. If you need warranty service, return or exchange is available. In addition, if your IBM option is installed in an IBM computer, you may be entitled to service at your location. Your technical support representative can help you determine the best alternative. Charges Single Part Unit Description Number Price* 8MB SO DIMM 5v Parity 92G7255 $695 * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit, in any way, the remarketer's ability to set prices for this IBM product. IBM 16MB SO DIMM MEMORY -- 70NS 5V LP PARITY (92G7257) The 16MB SO DIMM Memory (#3974, 92G7257) upgrade card offers 16MB of low-power memory expansion to laptop systems. This small outline, space-saving, 72-pin DIMM can expand the internal memory of a laptop by 16MB simply by inserting it into an SO DIMM slot on the prerequisite card (84G2151) that plugs into an IC DRAM socket. Expanded memory capabilities can enable higher application performance and more efficient system operation. As part of an IBM family of low-power memory expansion cards, the 16MB SO DIMM Memory card supports low-power applications and aids in the extension of a laptop battery's operational life between recharges, as compared to non-low-power memory. The cards are packaged in a small form approximately 2.35-inches long by 1-inch high with 72-pin, gold-plated contacts on a staggered, dual row. The 16MB SO DIMM Memory card is organized as 4M x 36 bits, supports parity, operates at 5 volts LP with an access time of 70ns, and is packaged on a 72-pin, small outline, space-saving card. It is designed to function in systems that support 16-, 32-, and 64-bit applications. Product Positioning: The 16MB SO DIMM Memory card provides a logical growth path for system memory upgrades in IBM laptop systems. This upgrade is part of an IBM family of low-power memory expansion options designed on a small form factor for laptops and portables with compatible slots. With larger and more powerful operating systems and applications becoming available, the 16MB upgrade can provide you with a cost-effective solution. Using the prerequisite card (84G2151), two SO DIMM cards can be plugged into this card. You may want to evaluate upgrading to the maximum, based on immediate and projected future requirements. Planned Availability Date: June 23, 1995 Technical Information Physical Specifications o Width: 25.4 mm (1.00 in.) o Depth: 3.8 mm (.15 in.) o Length: 59.69 mm (2.35 in.) o Weight: 14.2 gm (0.5 oz) Operating Environment o Temperature: 0(degs)C to 55(degs)C (32(degs)F to 131(degs)F) o Relative humidity: 95% maximum o Operating current: 640mA maximum Agency Approvals: Meets required operating criteria. Original Country of Origin: Assembled in Canada. Components may be manufactured in the U.S.A., Japan, Korea, Germany, Italy, or Ireland. Note: This may vary through the life of the product. Hardware Requirements -- IBM Systems: The IBM 16MB SO DIMM Card 70ns, 72-pin, 5v LP Parity is supported on the following platforms: Machine Description Type Model ThinkPad 755 9545 (All) E0C, E0E, E0G, K0C, K0E, K0G, F0C, F0E, F0G, L0C, L0E, L0G, 6BC, 6BD, 6BE, 7BC, 7BD, 7BE, 9BD, 9BE Hardware Requirements -- Non-IBM Systems o 70ns o 8M x 36 bits organization o Parity (5 volts) o 88-pin IC DRAM sockets compatible with the JEIDA/JEDEC industry standard guidelines 1.0 and 2.0 for DRAM cards Software Requirements o IBM DOS 5.02, or later, and Windows 3.1 o MS-DOS 5.0, or later, and Windows 3.1 o OS/2 2.1, or later Compatibility: This product is designed for IBM laptop systems that support the JEIDA/JEDEC industry standard for IC DRAM Cards and the specifications as outlined in the Hardware Requirements section. Note: Some configurations may not be compatible. Limitations: An open compatible slot as specified in the Hardware Requirements section is required. Planning Information Cable Orders Required: No Installation Time: 15 minutes (average) Packaging: One box Shipment Group o IBM 16MB SO DIMM Upgrade 70ns 5v LP Parity o Installation and User's Guide o Registration Card Note: An Options by IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement (S83G-8275) is available in support of this product. Security, Auditability and Control This product uses the security and auditability features of the host hardware. User management is responsible for evaluation, selection, and implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. Terms and Conditions Field Installable Y Customer Setup Y Warranty: Period 3 Years Service Support Y Service Type CCE Maintenance Agreement N All other terms and conditions are the same as those applicable to the IBM machine type in which the feature is installed. Help and Service Information During the warranty period, technical support is available (800-426-7299) 24 hours a day, seven days a week, for answering any questions about your new IBM option. If you need warranty service, return or exchange is available. In addition, if your IBM option is installed in an IBM computer, you may be entitled to service at your location. Your technical support representative can help you determine the best alternative. Charges Single Part Unit Description Number Price* 16MB SO DIMM 5v Parity 92G7257 $1,095 * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit, in any way, the remarketer's ability to set prices for this IBM product. + Trademark of Microsoft Corporation From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 11 20:50:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07084; Tue, 11 Apr 95 20:50:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26234; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 20:42:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 20:42:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc7.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26224; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 20:42:24 -0400 From: Message-Id: <9504120042.AA29818@husc7.harvard.edu> Subject: C-A-D doesn't work w/ new 1.2.4 Linux kernel w/ APM! To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 20:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Cc: chan4@CS.UTK.EDU (derek chan) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know what the problem is? Grrr...... I applied the APM patches to the kernel. Anyone also know if there's a sound card driver available? Thanks From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 01:57:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28157; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:57:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15228; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:46:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:46:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pelican.cit.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15215; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:46:00 -0400 Received: by pelican.cit.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03chaos) id AA22452; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:45:53 -0400 From: rdc@pelican.cit.cornell.edu (Bob Cowles) Message-Id: <9504120545.AA22452@pelican.cit.cornell.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755Cs hanging up after hibernation In-Reply-To: (Your message of Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:56:43 N.) <9504101448.AA19726@gl.ciw.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:45:53 -0500 I have spent some amount of time messing with the different available drivers and (tentatively) have found that using the Warp drivers for PCMCIA functions with the addition of $ICPMOS2.SYS (the power management support driver) from the Thinkpad drivers allows me to use the cards after hibernation without having to pop them out and back in again. Anyone else want to try this and report on their results? ----------------------- Bob Cowles (aka Dr. Chaos) || finger drchaos@pelican.cit.cornell.edu rdc1@cornell.edu || for contents of latest Chaos Corner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 04:34:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09628; Wed, 12 Apr 95 04:34:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24676; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 04:23:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 04:22:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from arl-img-3.compuserve.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24666; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 04:22:57 -0400 Received: by arl-img-3.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.941228sam) id EAA15846; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 04:22:25 -0400 Date: 12 Apr 95 04:20:42 EDT From: Joachim Kuhn <100042.2161@compuserve.com> To: Subject: I am new here Message-Id: <950412082041_100042.2161_EHK77-1@CompuServe.COM> I am Joachim Kuhn from Germany an I am working with my thinkpads under SCO UNIX and MS-DOS. Somtimes there are Problems with UNIX on the TP. Therefor I am looking for help here in this Forum/Mail-list. (I am developing commercial SW under SCO UNIX and Foxbase+ ; of course on my TP) and: Sorry about my English! Joachim Kuhn Lindauerstr. 6 D-87439 Kempten Germany Tel. +49 831 511351 Fax +49 831 511352 INTERNET: 100042.2161@compuserve.com - E-Mail from Joachim Kuhn, 100042,2161 - D-87439 Kempten, Germany - 12-Apr-1995, 10:15:45 MESZ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 05:23:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12000; Wed, 12 Apr 95 05:23:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA27349; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 05:10:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 05:10:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA27329; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 05:10:52 -0400 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa25119; 12 Apr 95 10:10 GMT-60:00 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa29936; 12 Apr 95 10:10 GMT-60:00 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: elf@dgp.toronto.edu Subject: Re: MWAVE and OS2 Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:07:26 BST Message-Id: <9504121007.aa14236@hipass.filct.com> MWAVE to run. When I try to engage the OS2 MWAVE-modem, it complains about a driver not being installed, although I distinctly did install the MWAVE software (twice, in fact). As a result, none of the DSP related stuff works on OS2. I also installed an MWAVE DOS/Windows/OS2 upgrade I got from fto.pcco.ibm.com. MWAVE continues to work very well under DOS and Win, but not under OS2. If anyone has experience with getting MWAVE to run under OS2, I'd appreciate some tips. I had problems with MWAVE with Warp and was told by IBM there was a fix (which they have promised to send me). I'll let you know what happens. Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 10:59:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00445; Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:59:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24850; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:46:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:46:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24828; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:46:30 -0400 Received: from poncho-slip9.cis.brown.edu (poncho-slip9.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.46]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA05678 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:48:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199504121448.KAA05678@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:45:42 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Adaptec SlimSCSI on 750C Just bought an Adaptec SlimSCSI, and try to install it on my 750C running EzPlay. No luck! EZPlay recognizes the card but the APSI2DOS.SYS driver won't load. I have placed the APSI2DOS.SYS before the autoconfigurator. Can someone give me some suggestions? Are there extra parameters require? Thanks. <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 10:59:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00447; Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:59:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24521; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:43:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:43:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from icebox.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24510; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:43:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (jfid@localhost) by icebox.mfltd.co.uk (8.6.4/8.6.4) id PAA05238 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 15:43:09 +0100 Message-Id: <199504121443.PAA05238@icebox.mfltd.co.uk> From: jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 15:43:08 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP755, Dock I, Linux and SCSI CDROM problem... I'm trying to get Linux to recognise a SCSI CD-ROM drive attached to the docking station on my 755. The kernel (1.2.4) recognises the TMC-8xx card without any problems now I've stopped the memory clash with the ethernet card, but when the driver initialises, it finds the CD-ROM drive at every SCSI address apart from the one it's at. Any suggestions as to the reason for this, or how to fix it ? Thanks, James. -- "Yield to temptation -- | jfid@mfltd.co.uk it may not pass your way again" | http://www.mfltd.co.uk/~jfid/ | - Lazarus Long | James Fidell From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 12:52:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13018; Wed, 12 Apr 95 12:52:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05477; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:33:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:33:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mx01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05464; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:33:35 -0400 Received: by mx01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA249172; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:32:53 GMT Received: from slip145-11.ut.nl.ibm.net(129.37.145.11) by mx01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma8C4De7; Wed Apr 12 16:31:53 1995 Received: by slip145-11.ut.nl.ibm.net (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.13B/1.0um) id AA0021; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:30:18 -0700 Message-Id: <9504130130.AA0021@slip145-11.ut.nl.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:20:42 -0100 From: "Alberto Enna" To: "Michael MacDonald" , "Thinkpad mailing list" Reply-To: "Alberto Enna" Subject: Re: Finally got my 755cd! X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <15_58_1_797725243> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: On Fri, 07 Apr 95 19:22:29 -0400 "Michael MacDonald" wrote: > After 6.2 months of waiting, IBM fianlly delivered the 755cd that I > ordered back in November. I hate to say this, but it was worth the wait. Me too are waiting for the TP 755CD ordered here in Italy last December. Does anybody know where (and what) is the problem...? Is it normal to wait for so long...? Cheers! Alberto Enna 2:335/12.0@fidonet.org 81:439/4.0@os2net.ftn aenna@ibm.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 13:26:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14798; Wed, 12 Apr 95 13:26:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07792; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:08:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:08:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07780; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:08:06 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05625; Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:06:48 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id KAA01186; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:06:41 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9504121006.ZM1184@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:06:40 -0700 In-Reply-To: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) "Re: Windows 95 Preview Program" (Apr 11, 12:09pm) References: <199504111908.MAA22431@mom.hooked.net> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Windows 95 "flawed" Cc: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose), furman@furman.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 11, 12:09pm, jesse montrose wrote: > Subject: Re: Windows 95 Preview Program > At 04:45 PM 4/10/95 -0400, Dunaway_Wesley/furman@furman.edu wrote: > >In any event, I was wondering if anyone out there has had previous > >experience with Windows 95 betas on TP750s. > I've been running win95 on my 755cs since last october.. sucks less than > windows :) Jesse, I'm surprised to find someone who actually *likes* Windows '95. The reviews have been horrible: >>> SAN MATEO, CALIFORNIA, U.S.A., 1995 MAR 27 (NB) -- A weekly >>> computer publication says it has found Windows 95, Microsoft >>> Corp.'s (NASDAQ: MSFT) next generation combination user interface >>> and operating system, "flawed" to the point it will be of use only >>> to home users. >>> >>> According to Nicholas Petreley, executive editor of >>> reviews at InfoWorld, the long-awaited and several-times-delayed >>> Windows 95 has such severe problems that its functionality is >>> limited for business use. The InfoWorld editor said the problem is >>> that Windows 95 runs out of system resources when running >>> multi-threaded 32-bit applications. >>> >>> If the magazine is correct, that could be a serious >>> obstacle to widespread corporate adoption of the program, which is >>> now scheduled to launch in August 1995, since the ability to run >>> 32-bit applications is touted as one of its major advantages. >>> >>> In an interview with Newsbytes Petreley called Windows 95 "a >>> disaster" if it ships in its current form. "I fear that unless >>> Microsoft goes back to the drawing board on this operating system, >>> only light home users will get anything out of it," writes Petreley >>> in this week's issue of the publication. >>> >>> The problem, according to the editor, is that Windows 95 is a >>> 32-bit wraparound on top of Windows 3.1., so Microsoft is running >>> into a lot of the limitations of Windows 3.1 due to the company's >>> desire to make Windows 95 backwards-compatible. "They managed to >>> move some of the information out of the (graphics) GDI heap into the >>> 32-bit address base but they haven't really done it successfully >>> with the user heap, so they are keeping this thing called the >>> Windows class, which is really the basic building block of all >>> Windows objects and windows. That information is still being kept >>> in the 64K user heap in conventional memory." >>> >>> Petreley told Newsbytes the result of that architecture is that >>> when you place a folder-oriented multi-threaded desktop on top of >>> it and want to open a number of different folders, you fill up that >>> relatively small user heap very rapidly. "I ran out of resources >>> just running Microsoft Word and the Microsoft Network at the same >>> time," he told Newsbytes. Petreley said he was running Windows 95 on >>> a Pentium-based PC with 32 megabytes (MB) of memory. >>> >>> Petreley said Microsoft hand-delivered a fix to InfoWorld that moved >>> the Windows class out of the user heap and into the 32-bit address >>> space. "But it breaks things left and right, including 32-bit >>> applications. Microsoft Network crashes and Word for Windows >>> crashes," he said. >>> >>> The Microsoft Press Computer Dictionary Second Edition defines the >>> heap as "a portion of memory reserved for a program to use for the >>> temporary storage of data structures whose existence or size cannot >>> be determined until the program is running. The program can request >>> free memory from the heap to hold such elements, use it as >>> necessary, and later free the memory." >>> >>> A call to Microsoft in an attempt get that company's comment on this >>> story had not been returned by press deadline. >>> >>> (Jim Mallory/19950327/Press contact: Microsoft, 206-882-8080; >>> Infoworld, 415-572-7341) >> > -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 13:33:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15513; Wed, 12 Apr 95 13:33:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08563; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:18:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:18:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08552; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:18:47 -0400 Received: from mail.hooked.net (tuna.hooked.net [199.2.134.11]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA01961; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:18:38 -0700 Message-Id: <199504121718.KAA01961@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:19:06 -0700 To: "Robert George" , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Windows 95 "flawed" Cc: furman@furman.edu At 10:06 AM 4/12/95 -0700, Robert George wrote: >On Apr 11, 12:09pm, jesse montrose wrote: >> Subject: Re: Windows 95 Preview Program >> At 04:45 PM 4/10/95 -0400, Dunaway_Wesley/furman@furman.edu wrote: >> >In any event, I was wondering if anyone out there has had previous >> >experience with Windows 95 betas on TP750s. >> I've been running win95 on my 755cs since last october.. sucks less than >> windows :) > >Jesse, > > I'm surprised to find someone who actually *likes* Windows '95. The >reviews have been horrible: Now wait a minute.. "sucks less than windows" is hardly translatable to "likes" :) However, I do run many apps at once, and have not run into the problem reported. A typical set of programs for me to have loaded and running (actively switching between them): netscape photoshop 3.0 truespace visual c++ plus several telnet windows, and a few dos windows and ftp sessions. I can load all these and run for hours without crashing (as long as I steer clear of the photoshop and truespace crash bugs :)) which I just couldn't do in win 3.1. I'm not quick to leap to windows' defense, it's not a very elegant solution, and better solutions exist, but since all the apps are written for it.. If you use win3.1 now, win95 is a compelling upgrade, if you use another OS, that means your OS has the apps you need, or you can live with the emulation, either way, I wouldn't recommend switching to windows because of win95. [review snipped] ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 14:52:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00203; Wed, 12 Apr 95 14:52:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13829; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 14:30:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 14:30:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13799; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 14:30:38 -0400 Received: from hp.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA20532; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:29:47 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.15//ident-1.0) id AA213231742; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:35:42 -0600 Message-Id: <199504121835.AA213231742@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: TP755, Dock I, Linux and SCSI CDROM problem... To: jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:35:41 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199504121443.PAA05238@icebox.mfltd.co.uk> from "James Fidell" at Apr 12, 95 03:43:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm trying to get Linux to recognise a SCSI CD-ROM drive attached to the > docking station on my 755. The kernel (1.2.4) recognises the TMC-8xx > card without any problems now I've stopped the memory clash with the > ethernet card, but when the driver initialises, it finds the CD-ROM > drive at every SCSI address apart from the one it's at. > > Any suggestions as to the reason for this, or how to fix it ? The problem is that some SCSI devices respond on all LUNs when they should only respond on one. Some other devices also lock up when they are polled on anything but LUN 0. Linux has a list of these bad devices in drivers/scsi/scsi.c. The list is called blacklist[]. All you need to do is write down the identifying info that Linux is showing on the screen for the device (should be three strings with the manafacturer, model, and revision). Then add that to the blacklist[] in scsi.c and recompile your kernel. You should send the info to someone on the linux scsi development team (perhaps Eric Youngdale - ericy@cais.com) so that it gets included in future Linux releases. That should do it! > Thanks, > James. +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 16:31:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14919; Wed, 12 Apr 95 16:31:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22149; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:08:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:08:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22138; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:08:40 -0400 Received: from p17.slip.net (sfsp103.slip.net [204.160.88.151]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA17650 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:08:24 -0700 Message-Id: <199504122008.NAA17650@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:08:53 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: powerpc thinkpad A few highlights from the pcweek article on this neat-looking box: powerpc 603/66 2x cdrom (mounted better, in the middle, integrated instead of slapped on like 755cd) motion video adapter optional integrated digital video camera (mounted on the top, removable) 10.4 usual 'c' type screen 7.9 lbs external floppy (can go in cd bay) 16 bit audio 810 drive no price listed, but there is a picture. Finally has a wrist rest! the speakers are down in front, two of them looks as though they moved the FN key (a boon in my book) so the ctrl key is to the far left, then a space, then the alt key. can't quite figure out how the semi-circular camera mount works, but in the picture, it's protruding up a few inches, and has a couple other things on it too.. Runs nt and aix, with os/2 on the way.. ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 17:08:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16777; Wed, 12 Apr 95 17:08:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26431; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:50:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:50:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from icebox.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26400; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:49:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (jfid@localhost) by icebox.mfltd.co.uk (8.6.4/8.6.4) id VAA11441; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 21:49:49 +0100 Message-Id: <199504122049.VAA11441@icebox.mfltd.co.uk> From: jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 21:49:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: Brad Pepers's note of Apr 12, 12:35pm To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755, Dock I, Linux and SCSI CDROM problem... Cc: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Brad Pepers wrote: > > I'm trying to get Linux to recognise a SCSI CD-ROM drive attached to the > > docking station on my 755. The kernel (1.2.4) recognises the TMC-8xx > > card without any problems now I've stopped the memory clash with the > > ethernet card, but when the driver initialises, it finds the CD-ROM > > drive at every SCSI address apart from the one it's at. > > > > Any suggestions as to the reason for this, or how to fix it ? > > The problem is that some SCSI devices respond on all LUNs when they > should only respond on one. Some other devices also lock up when > they are polled on anything but LUN 0. Linux has a list of these > bad devices in drivers/scsi/scsi.c. The list is called blacklist[]. > All you need to do is write down the identifying info that Linux > is showing on the screen for the device (should be three strings > with the manafacturer, model, and revision). Then add that to the > blacklist[] in scsi.c and recompile your kernel. You should send > the info to someone on the linux scsi development team (perhaps > Eric Youngdale - ericy@cais.com) so that it gets included in future > Linux releases. That's not what I'm seeing, though -- I get messages saying that the CDROM driver is found at scsi0, id X, LUN 0, where X is 0 thru' 7 excluding 6, which is the actual SCSI id of the CD-ROM drive. I can't help thinking about the floppy disk change sense line and it's inverted logic and wondering if there is something similar with the SCSI host adaptor. James. -- "Yield to temptation -- | jfid@mfltd.co.uk it may not pass your way again" | http://www.mfltd.co.uk/~jfid/ | - Lazarus Long | James Fidell From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 19:06:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23443; Wed, 12 Apr 95 19:06:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07851; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 18:45:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 18:45:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07776; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 18:45:18 -0400 Received: from hp.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA23526; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:44:21 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.15//ident-1.0) id AA206297017; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:50:17 -0600 Message-Id: <199504122250.AA206297017@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: TP755, Dock I, Linux and SCSI CDROM problem... To: jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:50:16 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, pepersb@cuug.ab.ca In-Reply-To: <199504122049.VAA11441@icebox.mfltd.co.uk> from "James Fidell" at Apr 12, 95 09:49:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Brad Pepers wrote: > > > > I'm trying to get Linux to recognise a SCSI CD-ROM drive attached to the > > > docking station on my 755. The kernel (1.2.4) recognises the TMC-8xx > > > card without any problems now I've stopped the memory clash with the > > > ethernet card, but when the driver initialises, it finds the CD-ROM > > > drive at every SCSI address apart from the one it's at. > > > > > > Any suggestions as to the reason for this, or how to fix it ? > > > > The problem is that some SCSI devices respond on all LUNs when they > > should only respond on one. Some other devices also lock up when > > they are polled on anything but LUN 0. Linux has a list of these > > bad devices in drivers/scsi/scsi.c. The list is called blacklist[]. > > All you need to do is write down the identifying info that Linux > > is showing on the screen for the device (should be three strings > > with the manafacturer, model, and revision). Then add that to the > > blacklist[] in scsi.c and recompile your kernel. You should send > > the info to someone on the linux scsi development team (perhaps > > Eric Youngdale - ericy@cais.com) so that it gets included in future > > Linux releases. > > That's not what I'm seeing, though -- I get messages saying that the > CDROM driver is found at scsi0, id X, LUN 0, where X is 0 thru' 7 > excluding 6, which is the actual SCSI id of the CD-ROM drive. Ah - stranger yet! I've never heard of this before. You say the SCSI is a TMC controller? Not using the builtin SCSI? Which dock station (I or II)? Are you sure termination is correct? > I can't help thinking about the floppy disk change sense line and it's > inverted logic and wondering if there is something similar with the > SCSI host adaptor. I doubt it. Tons of people use CD-ROMs and SCSI HDs and don't have problems like you mention. If you bought the TMC scsi controller seperate, maybe there is something in the manual about this. Does it work in DOS? Sorry what I told you didn't help. Hope you get it figured out! > James. > +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 20:04:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27321; Wed, 12 Apr 95 20:04:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11503; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 19:51:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 19:51:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11492; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 19:51:39 -0400 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8660) id <01HP9BD8ZO280060S0@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 16:52:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: PC DOS 7.0--Missing Files To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HP9BD907CY0060S0@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" X-Vms-Cc: ANDRSN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I've just discovered that PC DOS 7.0 lacks some utilities--e.g., "JOIN"-- and have been told they're available from BBS or CompuServe. Anyone have a U.S. BBS number? Given the software they put on the machine, including commercial stuff for AOL etc. that doesn't run unless you get a subscription, I think making people contact BBS systems or CIS is not very user friendly. There were some software offers with the T-Pad a friend of mine got that required him to download software by a certain date or lose the opportunity. It turned out it would take 45 minutes (or 30) per file to download the four files needed--and he happened to be in California and the BBS was on the East Coast. If I get one of these things will it do any good to negotiate for complete software? Thanks Annelise From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 12 23:26:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25231; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:26:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25143; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 23:12:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 23:12:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25132; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 23:12:38 -0400 Received: from ppp227.basenet.net (ppp227.basenet.net [204.248.92.227]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA21997 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 21:11:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 21:11:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199504130211.VAA21997@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basegrp.com (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: PC DOS 7.0--Missing Files >I've just discovered that PC DOS 7.0 lacks some utilities--e.g., "JOIN"-- >and have been told they're available from BBS or CompuServe. > >Anyone have a U.S. BBS number? You can probably get it from the IBM PCCO FTP sight right: I believe it's the same BBS - URL is 'ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/dos_util/' |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 03:55:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19948; Thu, 13 Apr 95 03:55:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13065; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 03:44:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 03:44:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from icebox.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13055; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 03:44:19 -0400 Received: from localhost (jfid@localhost) by icebox.mfltd.co.uk (8.6.4/8.6.4) id IAA18832; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 08:44:10 +0100 Message-Id: <199504130744.IAA18832@icebox.mfltd.co.uk> From: jfid@mfltd.co.uk (James Fidell) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 08:44:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: Brad Pepers's note of Apr 12, 4:50pm To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755, Dock I, Linux and SCSI CDROM problem... Cc: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Brad Pepers wrote: > > Brad Pepers wrote: > > > > > > I'm trying to get Linux to recognise a SCSI CD-ROM drive attached to the > > > > docking station on my 755. The kernel (1.2.4) recognises the TMC-8xx > > > > card without any problems now I've stopped the memory clash with the > > > > ethernet card, but when the driver initialises, it finds the CD-ROM > > > > drive at every SCSI address apart from the one it's at. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions as to the reason for this, or how to fix it ? > > > > > > The problem is that some SCSI devices respond on all LUNs when they > > > should only respond on one. Some other devices also lock up when > > > they are polled on anything but LUN 0. Linux has a list of these > > > bad devices in drivers/scsi/scsi.c. The list is called blacklist[]. > > > All you need to do is write down the identifying info that Linux > > > is showing on the screen for the device (should be three strings > > > with the manafacturer, model, and revision). Then add that to the > > > blacklist[] in scsi.c and recompile your kernel. You should send > > > the info to someone on the linux scsi development team (perhaps > > > Eric Youngdale - ericy@cais.com) so that it gets included in future > > > Linux releases. > > > > That's not what I'm seeing, though -- I get messages saying that the > > CDROM driver is found at scsi0, id X, LUN 0, where X is 0 thru' 7 > > excluding 6, which is the actual SCSI id of the CD-ROM drive. > > Ah - stranger yet! I've never heard of this before. You say the > SCSI is a TMC controller? Not using the builtin SCSI? Which dock > station (I or II)? Are you sure termination is correct? I believe that the controller is a TMC-850. OS/2 Warp told me that when I installed it, I'm sure. It is the built-in SCSI host in the Dock I. I'm as sure as I can be that the termination is correct. > > I can't help thinking about the floppy disk change sense line and it's > > inverted logic and wondering if there is something similar with the > > SCSI host adaptor. > > I doubt it. Tons of people use CD-ROMs and SCSI HDs and don't have > problems like you mention. If you bought the TMC scsi controller > seperate, maybe there is something in the manual about this. Does > it work in DOS? It works under DOS, Windows and OS/2 without any problems. James. -- "Yield to temptation -- | jfid@mfltd.co.uk it may not pass your way again" | http://www.mfltd.co.uk/~jfid/ | - Lazarus Long | James Fidell From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 09:53:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12000; Thu, 13 Apr 95 09:53:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09094; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:33:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:33:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ub-gate.UB.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09082; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:33:24 -0400 Received: from garfield (garfield.UB.com) by ub-gate.UB.com (4.1/SMI-4.1[UB-1.9.1]) id AA11452; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:32:43 PDT Received: from smtp.UB.com ([128.203.7.39]) by garfield (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15240; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:32:33 PDT Received: by smtp.UB.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.0)/1.2) id AA6659; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:33:40 -0700 Message-Id: <9504131333.AA6659@smtp.UB.com> Received: from UB with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id CBCBCB2F23771D108525619D004A16E4; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:33:39 To: tp750 From: Ken Yee/UB Networks Date: 13 Apr 95 9:30:25 EDT Subject: RE: powerpc thinkpad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > no price listed, but there is a picture. Finally has a wrist rest! Yay! Thanks to the engineers at IBM Japan who designed the thing. :-) ken From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 10:26:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14879; Thu, 13 Apr 95 10:26:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11450; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:06:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:06:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11437; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:06:34 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA00731 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:06:31 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA27972; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:07:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:07:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: "Kris D. Williams" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PC DOS 7.0--Missing Files In-Reply-To: <199504130211.VAA21997@mtvernon1.basenet.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have join.exe in my PC Dos 7, was yours pre-installed on your machine or did you buy it somewhere? On Wed, 12 Apr 1995, Kris D. Williams wrote: > >I've just discovered that PC DOS 7.0 lacks some utilities--e.g., "JOIN"-- > >and have been told they're available from BBS or CompuServe. > > > >Anyone have a U.S. BBS number? > > You can probably get it from the IBM PCCO FTP sight right: I believe it's > the same BBS - URL is 'ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/dos_util/' > > > |===============================================================| > |Kris D. Williams | > |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | > |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | > |My opinions are my own (really!) | > |===============================================================| > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 12:34:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23804; Thu, 13 Apr 95 12:34:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25468; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:17:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:17:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25450; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:17:24 -0400 Received: from p20.slip.net (sfsp100.slip.net [204.160.88.154]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA13951; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <199504131617.JAA13951@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:17:37 -0700 To: , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad tp750@cs.utk.edu) From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: C-A-D doesn't work w/ new 1.2.4 Linux kernel w/ APM! Cc: chan4@CS.UTK.EDU (derek chan) At 08:42 PM 4/11/95 -0400, chan4@husc.harvard.edu wrote: >Anyone know what the problem is? > >Grrr...... Yeah, they fixed it :) look in /etc/inittab to make it shutdown on c-a-d, if the line isn't there, this'll do it: ca:::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now >I applied the APM patches to the kernel. Anyone also know if there's a >sound card driver available? Thanks I think I saw something on the tp linux page that said someone got it to work, but hasn't posted the patch yet.. his email address was there if you want to contact him. I haven't put linux on my 'pad yet, but I'm still considering it. ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 12:52:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24495; Thu, 13 Apr 95 12:52:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27271; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:35:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:35:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27238; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:35:33 -0400 Received: from p20.slip.net (sfsp100.slip.net [204.160.88.154]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA15239; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:30:08 -0700 Message-Id: <199504131630.JAA15239@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:30:43 -0700 To: Eugene Fiume , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: First Steps: Loading Linux You need a patched boot disk, and you'll have to patch some other stuff too: http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/html/linux-thinkpad.html At 10:00 AM 4/8/95 -0400, Eugene Fiume wrote: >I'm sure I have a very basic problem here. I have the Yggdrasil Plug-and-Play >Linux CDROM and boot floppy. I suspect some might say that's my problem! > >When I try to boot my 755CE from that boot floppy, I get the first two >letters of the expected "LILO", and then it hangs. If I try to "runlinux" >from the CDROM (Raven CD-Note PCMCIA-SCSI interface), I get a DOS message >saying that I am trying to perform a "privileged" operation. The >"runlinux" command just tries to load linux boot code above the DOS driver >memory so that it can use them. > >Is there a change I should be making to my configuration to allow such a >"privileged" operation? I am using the standard config.sys etc., except >that I have installed the CDROM and an ethernet network card driver. > >Any ideas why the boot floppy hangs the machine? To make certain my >bootfloppy was current, I remade it, but got the same result. > >An old UNIX geek who doesn't know the first thing about DOS and Windows... >Eugene Fiume. > > ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 14:20:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29839; Thu, 13 Apr 95 14:20:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03157; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 14:05:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 14:05:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nickel.ucs.indiana.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03140; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 14:05:03 -0400 Received: by nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (5.65c+/10jsm) id AA22706; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:05:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:04:57 -0500 (EST) From: weng hui X-Sender: whui@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RAM Upgrade and Batteries Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks to all who responded to my request for info. on IC DRAM card for my tp750. I finally got a 16MB card for $600 nett. - no problem so far. Does anyone know what is the average lifespan of the NiMH battery pack ? Also, to preserve its lifespan, is it better to charge/discharge repeatedly or to use the AC adapter whenever possible ( to reduce the frequency of recharging) ? Thanks again. Weng From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 16:09:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16819; Thu, 13 Apr 95 16:09:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10678; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 15:49:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 15:49:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10668; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 15:49:00 -0400 Received: from 204.248.93.5 ([204.248.92.250]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA27137 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:48:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:48:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199504131848.NAA27137@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basegrp.com (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: RAM Upgrade and Batteries >Does anyone know what is the average lifespan of the NiMH battery pack ? >Also, to preserve its lifespan, is it better to charge/discharge >repeatedly or to use the AC adapter whenever possible ( to reduce the >frequency of recharging) ? > >Weng Life span is more a function of charge/discharge cycles. Most NiMh batteries have an average charge/discharge life of 350-500 cycles. Train it well and you should get several years out of it. Train it poorly and you'll buy a new in no time. IMHO you should follow the rule: Never charge your battery until it is fully discharged and never stop charging it until it is fully charged. If you're 'in-between' the charge, and are going from battery to AC, either turn off the charge circuit (and continue to run on battery), run the discharge cycle, or remove the battery to prevent the charge cycle from starting again. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 18:25:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07585; Thu, 13 Apr 95 18:25:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21815; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:14:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:14:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nickel.ucs.indiana.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21805; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 18:14:27 -0400 Received: by nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (5.65c+/10jsm) id AA01729; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 17:13:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 17:13:02 -0500 (EST) From: weng hui X-Sender: whui@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu To: "Kris D. Williams" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: RAM Upgrade and Batteries In-Reply-To: <199504131848.NAA27137@mtvernon1.basenet.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 13 Apr 1995, Kris D. Williams wrote: > Life span is more a function of charge/discharge cycles. Most NiMh > batteries have an average charge/discharge life of 350-500 cycles. Train it > well and you should get several years out of it. Train it poorly and you'll > buy a new in no time. > > IMHO you should follow the rule: Never charge your battery until it is fully > discharged and never stop charging it until it is fully charged. If you're > 'in-between' the charge, and are going from battery to AC, either turn off > the charge circuit (and continue to run on battery), run the discharge > cycle, or remove the battery to prevent the charge cycle from starting again. Does it follow that if I adhere to the rule and run the charge/discharge cycle, on average, once a day, the NiMh battery will last only 1-1.5 yrs ? With the limited total charge/discharge cycles does it also mean that it is better to keep the battery fully charged, operate the TP on AC power whenever possible, and maybe discharge once a week ? ( to avoid paying for a new battery every year which costs over US$200) Your opinions much appreciated. Weng From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 20:01:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15969; Thu, 13 Apr 95 20:01:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26447; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:46:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:46:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26437; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:46:46 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA14781; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 16:46:20 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id QAA06756; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 16:46:17 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504132346.QAA06756@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: RAM Upgrade and Batteries To: whui@indiana.edu (weng hui) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 16:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "weng hui" at Apr 13, 95 01:04:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Does anyone know what is the average lifespan of the NiMH battery pack ? > Also, to preserve its lifespan, is it better to charge/discharge > repeatedly or to use the AC adapter whenever possible ( to reduce the > frequency of recharging) ? The only thing I would say is to *not* leave your battery in if you leave your ThinkPad plugged in on a regular basis. This forces the battery into a light charge/discharge cycle (down to 90%, then back up to 100% again...down to 90%...). It wreaks havoc with your battery life. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 13 20:06:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16724; Thu, 13 Apr 95 20:06:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26887; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:56:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:56:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26877; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:56:23 -0400 From: Keith Moore Received: by wilma.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id TAA08925; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:53:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 19:53:05 -0400 Message-Id: <199504132353.TAA08925@wilma.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: XFree86 3.1.1 on TP750? If anyone is running XFree86 3.* on a ThinkPad, could you please send me your XF86Config file? I've gotten it working, but only barely. thanks, Keith Moore From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 02:55:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17801; Fri, 14 Apr 95 02:55:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19244; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 02:42:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 02:42:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19234; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 02:42:31 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id XAA02955 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 23:42:28 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id XAA27539 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 23:42:27 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504140642.XAA27539@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: "Cat's Tongue" TrackPoint Caps To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 23:42:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't suppose anybody has a bunch of these and would like to part with a few (I'll pay)? I'm curious what having one is like (I have a 750C--boring old stuff ;) and I'd rather not spend the gold-like prices based on Troy-ounce weight of rubber according to IBM. :) If anyone has bunches of them and is willing to part with a few of them for a reasonable price, please E-mail me. Thanks! ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 12:43:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20645; Fri, 14 Apr 95 12:43:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28851; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:26:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:26:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28839; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:26:49 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144288>; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:26:43 -0400 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines Message-Id: <95Apr14.122643edt.144288@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:26:31 -0400 As part of my neverending battle to get my TP755CE "ready for everything" for my sabbatical, I am trying to both understand and implement the ability for my TP to talk TCP/IP to both a standalone SPARC 10 and to a TCP/IP LAN. I want to do this under DOS and Windows first. My aim is to allow my ThinkPad to telnet and ftp to workstations on a TCP/IP LAN. But first, I want to be able to connect to my other home machine, a Sparc 10, so that I can do backups, etc. Here are the raw materials I currently have: Pre-MAX PCMCIA Ethernet card supporting both 10Base TPE and thinwire ethernet. It apparently is NE2000 compliant, among others. Basic client netware is also provided (ipxodi, pmxmlid,netx, lsl), though I am a novice to this. MS-Kermit 3.14 with TCP/IP ODI support. A Sun Sparc 10/41 running SunOS 4.1.3. A twisted-pair cable. I am not planning to run WFW, or a Netware server. I'm only interested in connecting to UNIX boxes. Is it possible to simply connect the twisted-pair cable from ThinkPad to the UNIX box, or do I need some kind of hub adapter? I want my hardware requirements to be minimal so I don't have to carry a lot of junk around when I travel. On the assumption that I don't need a hub, I have done some basic driver setup on the ThinkPad side, to the extent that kermit attempts to connect to the Sun. But it returns saying that it cannot resolve the address. I believe I have set up the UNIX side correctly, so I think it's either a driver problem, or that my assumption that I could use twisted-pair like a serial cable is wrong. I'd appreciate hearing from others who have experience in this sort of thing. Has anyone had success in getting Kermit to work with ODI, Ethernet and SLIP/PPP drivers? Thanks, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 13:18:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23246; Fri, 14 Apr 95 13:18:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00584; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:00:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:00:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kitten.mcs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00573; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:00:46 -0400 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA07616 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:00:44 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:48 CDT Received: by falkor.chi.il.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:38:25 CST for tp750@cs.utk.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: "Cat's Tongue" TrackPoint Caps From: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us (Ron Heiby) Message-Id: <8V4J4c2w165w@falkor.chi.il.us> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:34:30 CDT In-Reply-To: <199504140642.XAA27539@aludra.usc.edu> Organization: DML, Inc., Buffalo Grove, IL Randy, sorry I can't help you acquire one. I just thought that I'd let you know that I think that they are a *BIG* improvement over the smooth surface caps. The first couple of days, I found the surface to be quite rough, and I thought that I might develop a callous. After that, either I got used to it, or it wore down just enough. It works really well at helping keep control and avoid slipping off the stud. As to prices, I think it's stupid for IBM to sell 2+2 for $12-15. Most of that price has to be the overhead of selling *anything*. I bet they could sell a dozen for $20 or 50 for $25 if they wanted. Of course, unless you are a big company with many TPs, I don't know what you'd do with 50! Ron. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 14:01:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26150; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:01:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02984; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:50:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:50:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom12.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02967; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:50:07 -0400 Received: by netcom12.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA20610; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:49:50 -0400 From: gvaeth@netcom.com (Greg Vaeth at General Instrument) Message-Id: <199504141749.NAA20610@netcom12.netcom.com> Subject: Hooray! Cold boot problem solved To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad Mailing List) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:49:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am now on my second TP755CE trying to solve a problem where it will not boot up in the morning when cold (memory size displayed, floppy LED on, nothing else happens). After numerous call to IBM tech support, they finally asked "do you have an ethernet PCMCIA card installed?" It turns out that this known is a problem with the XIRCOM Performance Series Ethernet Adapters: with the card installed, the TP has to "warm up" before it will successfully boot. Apparently IBM and XIRCOM are still scratching their heads over this one. The only solution at the moment is either to live with it, or boot first, then install the card. Does anyone have any suggestions as to which ethernet card I should ask my pc vendor to swap for the XIRCOM? Thanks. Regards, Greg -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gregory Vaeth snailnet: internet: gvaeth@netcom.com General Instrument gvaeth@gic.gi.com ------ __o __o Communications Division voicenet: (215) 956-6488 ----- _`\<,_ _`\<,_ 2200 Byberry Road faxnet: (215) 675-4059 ----- (*)/ (*) (*)/ (*) Hatboro, PA 19040 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ My opinions are my own, and do not represent those of my employer. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 14:02:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26162; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:02:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03198; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:52:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:52:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns.incog.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03188; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:52:46 -0400 Received: from ale.incog.com by ns.incog.com (8.6.10/94082501) id KAA10253; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 10:53:33 -0700 Received: by ale.incog.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19570; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 10:52:33 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 10:52:33 -0700 From: geoffb@ale.incog.com (Geoffrey Baehr) Message-Id: <9504141752.AA19570@ale.incog.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Win95/TP755CE CRT resolution ? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Anyone know how to get Win95 Final Beta to recognize the TP 755CE WD Display Controller correctly so that resolution switching for external CRT's may function ? I have it working at 640x480, all other Plug n Play BIOS features are cool, hot docking etc. The Device Manager reports that the controller is "Not Functioning Correctly" in any config, even though it works. Auto Device Detect shows two controllers, deleting one has no effect, but neither controller will allow any resolution change. It's *too* helpful, preventing device parameter changes while they are "Conflicting or Not available". Yes, I selected External CRT in the TP Display control panel. An MS Knowledge Base article ( Q124267 ) reports that some thinkpads need to have the VESA BIOS enabled, I have that enabled (since it's in ROM anyway) and it's mentioned in system.ini (EnableVESABios=). Soewhere in the mists on Compuserve in the TP Forum there was a brief mention of deleting the wdvga.drv and replacing it with something else, doesn't sound right though... I've looked on the Microsoft Network, Compuserve and the PCCO BBS, no joy. Comments or thoughts are appreciated ! geoff From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 14:08:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26585; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:08:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03438; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:56:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:56:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03428; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:56:14 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 5087; Fri, 14 Apr 95 13:56:13 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 0361; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:56:12 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Fri, 14 Apr 95 13:56:10 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA29597; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:56:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:56:09 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9504141756.AA29597@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Eugene Fiume's message of Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:26:31 -0400 <95Apr14.122643edt.144288@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Subject: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines >As part of my neverending battle to get my TP755CE "ready for everything" >for my sabbatical, I am trying to both understand and implement the >ability for my TP to talk TCP/IP to both a standalone SPARC 10 and to >a TCP/IP LAN. I want to do this under DOS and Windows first. My aim >is to allow my ThinkPad to telnet and ftp to workstations on a TCP/IP LAN. Best of luck!!! getting TCP/IP running on the Thinkpad was a most heinous chore for me. I am using a TP750C with the 3Com ethernet board networked to a Sun and an RS/6000 on 10Base2. Of the free stuff that is out there, I use: NCSA Telnet (for telnet/ftp) and XFS for mounting disks. In order to communicate to the ethernet board, I use the Microsoft protocal manager, an NDIS driver, a packet driver, and a windows packet shim. All of this is available free on the internet, except the NDIS driver which came with my ethernet board. It is a real mishmash. I can send you my config.sys if you want. Kermit also does some rudimentary TCP/IP stuff, but it is pretty new and poorly documented. I think NCSA Telnet is more stable. If you want, you can go out and buy a commercial TCP/IP package such as PCNFS (recommended), IBM TCP/IP for DOS (not recommended), or others. This can run into hundreds of dollars, though. You can connect directly from a thinkpad to a UNIX box with twisted pair without a hub. But you need a special (but cheap) cable, and your "net" can only support the two machines. As for SLIP/PPP and Kermit, yes I have gotten it working, but what does this have to do with ethernet? It is only useful over a modem. --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 14:42:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29117; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:42:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05248; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:32:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:31:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05236; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:31:54 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17309; Fri, 14 Apr 95 11:30:47 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id LAA02643; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 11:32:21 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9504141132.ZM2641@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 11:32:20 -0700 In-Reply-To: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) "TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines" (Apr 14, 1:56pm) References: <9504141756.AA29597@jimi.watson.ibm.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 14, 1:56pm, Andrew Stevens wrote: > Subject: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines > > >As part of my neverending battle to get my TP755CE "ready for everything" > >for my sabbatical, I am trying to both understand and implement the > >ability for my TP to talk TCP/IP to both a standalone SPARC 10 and to > >a TCP/IP LAN. I want to do this under DOS and Windows first. My aim > >is to allow my ThinkPad to telnet and ftp to workstations on a TCP/IP LAN. > > Best of luck!!! getting TCP/IP running on the Thinkpad was a most > heinous chore for me. > > If you want, you can go out and buy a commercial TCP/IP package such > as PCNFS (recommended), IBM TCP/IP for DOS (not recommended), or > others. This can run into hundreds of dollars, though. I've used both PCNFS and Chameleon/NFS. Chameleon is vastly superior to PCNFS. The Chameleon installation is a snap, and they have a great set of integrated TCP/IP applications, including a MIME mailer, a web reader (and an http server!) an ftp client *and* server, telnet, tftp, NFS client and server (along with a nice application to resolve UNIX to PC names), Yellow Pages (NIS), Domain Name Service, LPR/LPR remote printer support, all the rsh/rlogin utilities, routing, etc... They also supply SLIP/CSLIP/PPP interfaces, but most importantly, along with routers so you can co-exist on an Ethernet network at the same time you're on a modem network. The package costs around $400. Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 14:59:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00315; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:59:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05927; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:46:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:45:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from stortek.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05917; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 14:45:52 -0400 Received: from deathstar.stortek.com ([129.80.18.204]) by stortek.com with SMTP id AA00700 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 14 Apr 1995 12:45:19 -0600 Received: from endor.stortek.com by deathstar.stortek.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-SESA-Main-0001) id AA14412; Fri, 14 Apr 95 12:45:18 MDT Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 12:45:18 MDT From: ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) Message-Id: <9504141845.AA14412@deathstar.stortek.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: "Cat's Tongue" TrackPoint Caps > Of course, unless you > are a big company with many TPs, I don't know what you'd do with 50! Sell them to your friends for a decent price... ;-)) Lee Stewart From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 16:32:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08536; Fri, 14 Apr 95 16:32:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11028; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:05:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:05:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mp.canuck.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10985; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:04:59 -0400 Received: from ccc001.canuck.com by mp.canuck.com via SMTP (940715.SGI.405/940801.mp) for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU id AA11814; Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:04:47 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 95 14:04:47 -0600 Message-Id: <9504142004.AA11814@mp.canuck.com> X-Sender: dcrombie@canuck.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Randal Whittle , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) From: dcrombie@canuck.com (David S. Crombie) Subject: Re: "Cat's Tongue" TrackPoint Caps X-Mailer: At 11:42 PM 4/13/95, Randal Whittle wrote: > > I don't suppose anybody has a bunch of these and would like >to part with a few (I'll pay)? > > I'm curious what having one is like (I have a 750C--boring >old stuff ;) and I'd rather not spend the gold-like prices based on >Troy-ounce weight of rubber according to IBM. :) I purchased a 360C a couple months ago which comes stanard with the TPII caps. I had been following this group for awhile, so I knew the difference, so I ordered a few up here in Canada. The total came to $22 CDN (about $16 US). I have to say that it was the best purchase I have made after the machine itself. They may be expensive, but if you are like me and tend to use the machine for hours at a time they are definitely worth paying IBM the high cost for them. When I ordered them they said there was a two week back order, but they were shipped priority overnight and arrived two days later. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- David S. Crombie dcrombie@canuck.com All I want is the chance to prove that money can't buy happiness. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 16:33:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08703; Fri, 14 Apr 95 16:33:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12363; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:24:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:24:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12343; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:24:15 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id QAA20835; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:27:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:27:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Greg Vaeth at General Instrument Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Hooray! Cold boot problem solved In-Reply-To: <199504141749.NAA20610@netcom12.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 14 Apr 1995, Greg Vaeth at General Instrument wrote: > install the card. Does anyone have any suggestions as to which > ethernet card I should ask my pc vendor to swap for the XIRCOM? Thanks. I have been very happy with my Linksys Combo card. Came with drivers for Netware ODI (server too!), NDIS, Packet and PCNFS. Plus, it autodetects 10base2 and T, a great feature for someone who works in both environments like I do. It's one dongle for both base 2 and T. HOWEVER, it didn't work with my 750 and autoplay. Since I prefer the point enablers for memory space, that doesn't bother me, but it may you. Whether the 755 and on work with it I do not know. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 17:08:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10860; Fri, 14 Apr 95 17:08:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13842; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:47:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:47:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13827; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:47:14 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id QAA22507; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:50:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:50:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Robert George Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines In-Reply-To: <9504141132.ZM2641@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 14 Apr 1995, Robert George wrote: > I've used both PCNFS and Chameleon/NFS. Chameleon is vastly superior to PCNFS. > The Chameleon installation is a snap, and they have a great set of integrated > TCP/IP applications, including a MIME mailer, a web reader (and an http > server!) an ftp client *and* server, telnet, tftp, NFS client and server (along > with a nice application to resolve UNIX to PC names), Yellow Pages (NIS), > Domain Name Service, LPR/LPR remote printer support, all the rsh/rlogin > utilities, routing, etc... > > They also supply SLIP/CSLIP/PPP interfaces, but most importantly, along with > routers so you can co-exist on an Ethernet network at the same time you're on a > modem network. > > The package costs around $400. They have a competitive deal till the end of this month that will get you the NFS version (normally $500) for $200. You could go buy Internet in a Box for $85 just to get the deal and it would still be cheaper. Anyone who needs the number can mail me at don@fwoot.kendall.mdcc.edu (work machine) and ask me for the number, I'll get it off the ad I clipped and mail it back to you. I have the non-NFS version, and I have only these observations about it: 1) The newsreader _stinks_. No threads, ends lines with CR/LF instead of CR so people reading your postings from a unix box see this ^M at the end of each line 2) The system makes it difficult to switch from SLIP/PPP to a physical card. You have to open the config/dialer program, open a different config file, save the settings, close the program and then reopen it if you want to make a PPP call. (This is because of the way their system holds your IP number and the like. This is not true _if_ you use BOOTP on both PPP and physical connections) 3) Several of the utilities are iffy - the FTP client is not as good as WS_FTP, some others are weak. 4) Tech support is _HORRIBLE_. People I know have waited over a week for email responses only to get canned messages. However, once you discover the weaknesses and find other utilities to replace the icky ones, the software works okay. You can use the prefered NDIS drivers or ODI if you're already using Netware. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 17:16:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11336; Fri, 14 Apr 95 17:16:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14818; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:02:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:02:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14808; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:02:21 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA03167 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:02:18 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA26657; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:03:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:03:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PC DOS 7.0--Missing Files (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Would the list owner kindly remove Josheph Pereira from the subscriber's list? Every time I send a message I get a bounce back like this. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:33:22 -0500 From: postmaster@channel1.com To: Joshua Hosseinoff Subject: Re: PC DOS 7.0--Missing Files Unknown user 'joseph.pereira' at channel1.com ---------------- I have join.exe in my PC Dos 7, was yours pre-installed on your machine or did you buy it somewhere? On Wed, 12 Apr 1995, Kris D. Williams wrote: > >I've just discovered that PC DOS 7.0 lacks some utilities--e.g., "JOIN"-- > >and have been told they're available from BBS or CompuServe. > > > >Anyone have a U.S. BBS number? > > You can probably get it from the IBM PCCO FTP sight right: I believe it's > the same BBS - URL is 'ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/dos_util/' > > > |===============================================================| > |Kris D. Williams | > |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | > |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | > |My opinions are my own (really!) | > |===============================================================| > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 18:10:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16137; Fri, 14 Apr 95 18:10:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18698; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:58:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:58:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18689; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:58:30 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id RAA01118; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:55:11 -0400 Message-Id: <199504142155.RAA01118@wilma.cs.utk.edu> From: tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU To: Joshua Hosseinoff Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: [ADMIN] where to send maintenance requests In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:03:08 EDT." Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 17:55:05 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > Would the list owner kindly remove Josheph Pereira from the subscriber's > list? Every time I send a message I get a bounce back like this. done. (I wish people's mailers would follow the protocol specs!) FWIW, maintenance requests should go to tp750-request@cs.utk.edu, not to the whole list. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 14 18:39:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17818; Fri, 14 Apr 95 18:39:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20824; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:21:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:21:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20806; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:21:05 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA18002 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 15:20:58 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA11466 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 15:20:53 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199504142220.PAA11466@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: "Cat's Tongue" TrackPoint Caps (fwd) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 15:20:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forwarded message: > I'm on my last (old style) trackpoint cover. Do you have the > fone # and part # of the new type of cover and where to call to > order? As one gentleman on the list sent this to me privately, I'll first apologize for not paying attention when this part number was posted, and then ask someone to post it up again. ;) ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 15 01:08:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13199; Sat, 15 Apr 95 01:08:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13196; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 01:01:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 01:01:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13180; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 01:00:58 -0400 Received: from DialupEudora (ts1.noc.drexel.edu [129.25.12.13]) by dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (8.6.11/8.6.4) with SMTP id BAA10653 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 01:00:39 -0400 X-Sender: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 00:12:40 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mark Bell) Subject: Re: Hooray! Cold boot problem solved >Hi, > >I am now on my second TP755CE trying to solve a problem where it will >not boot up in the morning when cold (memory size displayed, floppy >LED on, nothing else happens). After numerous call to IBM tech >support, they finally asked "do you have an ethernet PCMCIA card >installed?" It turns out that this known is a problem with the XIRCOM >Performance Series Ethernet Adapters: with the card installed, the TP >has to "warm up" before it will successfully boot. Apparently IBM >and XIRCOM are still scratching their heads over this one. The only >solution at the moment is either to live with it, or boot first, then >install the card. Does anyone have any suggestions as to which >ethernet card I should ask my pc vendor to swap for the XIRCOM? Thanks. > I have to chime in and say all I have had are problems interfacing a Xircom Ethernet + Modem I (10bT & V.32Terbo) to my TP755C. Each time I Email cs@xircom.com, I get a "new or different" way to get the card to work. Their redirector for DOS doesn't work, so the modem us useless to me. It took me a month to get the card to be recognized, but WfWG hangs on start up every time. When I emailed tech support, they had a whole new set of rules to get it to work in a "work around" type of way. They want me to flash upgrade, but the 755 just gags on it. I also noticed "work around" methods for 750's too. I ended up throwing up my hands and ordering a Megahertz Xjack. Now that was easy, seamless installation. I had it working in a few minutes. It also runs beautifully in DOS and Windows. I would wholeheartedly recommend this unit to anyone. Meanwhile, the $500 Xircom card is gathering dust. I would like to hear from other people who have either had problems or actual easy installs with Xircom PCMCIA cards in their ThinkPads. .....That's right, No friggin' sig!........ * Mark Bell * 800 College Drive #104 * Vineland, NJ 08360 * 1-609-327-4029 * From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 15 18:20:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11998; Sat, 15 Apr 95 18:20:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09843; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:09:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:09:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09833; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:08:59 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09945; Sat, 15 Apr 95 15:07:52 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id PAA03305; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 15:07:46 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9504151507.ZM3303@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 15:07:45 -0700 In-Reply-To: Don Whiteside "Re: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines" (Apr 14, 4:50pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Don Whiteside Subject: Re: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 14, 4:50pm, Don Whiteside wrote: > Subject: Re: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines > On Fri, 14 Apr 1995, Robert George wrote: > > > I've used both PCNFS and Chameleon/NFS. Chameleon is vastly superior to PCNFS. > I have the non-NFS version, and I have only these observations about it: > > 1) The newsreader _stinks_. No threads, ends lines with CR/LF instead of > CR so people reading your postings from a unix box see this ^M at the end > of each line > 2) The system makes it difficult to switch from SLIP/PPP to a physical > card. You have to open the config/dialer program, open a different config > file, save the settings, close the program and then reopen it if you want > to make a PPP call. (This is because of the way their system holds your > IP number and the like. This is not true _if_ you use BOOTP on both PPP > and physical connections) > 3) Several of the utilities are iffy - the FTP client is not as good as > WS_FTP, some others are weak. Don, Get the Chameleon 4.5 update, which just came out about a month ago. It fixes *all* of the problems you mentioned! > 4) Tech support is _HORRIBLE_. People I know have waited over a week for > email responses only to get canned messages. Agreed. I've often had to send repeated e-mail to get any kind of response. I found that if you reply to the exact responder, instead of to the help address, you get a little more personal, and *slightly* faster responses. The help you do get generally is limited to the staff reading off of a checklist an engineer gave to them. On the other hand, this kind of problem is endemic to the PC marketplace in general. A software house can't afford to put their software engineers on the help line. Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 15 18:46:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13444; Sat, 15 Apr 95 18:46:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11686; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:40:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:40:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11670; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:40:20 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id SAA16970; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:44:07 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:44:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Robert George Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines In-Reply-To: <9504151507.ZM3303@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 15 Apr 1995, Robert George wrote: > Get the Chameleon 4.5 update, which just came out about a month ago. It > fixes *all* of the problems you mentioned! Yeah? I may buy another copy. I'm using my brother's, which was a product demo that he stopped using in favor of Super TCP, which puts me on shakier legal ground than I like. (I'm such a goody-goody) The $200 deal is pretty sweet for the amount of stuff you get. > > 4) Tech support is _HORRIBLE_. People I know have waited over a week for > > email responses only to get canned messages. > > Agreed. I've often had to send repeated e-mail to get any kind of response. I > found that if you reply to the exact responder, instead of to the help address, > you get a little more personal, and *slightly* faster responses. The help you > do get generally is limited to the staff reading off of a checklist an engineer > gave to them. > > On the other hand, this kind of problem is endemic to the PC marketplace in > general. A software house can't afford to put their software engineers on the > help line. Well, my brother, who was employed in tech support that the time, used to get driven to diversion by them. So when another tech person gets cheesed, you know you're in trouble.... His employer, UUNET, had so much trouble with them that they finally stopped reccomending the product. Netmanage had a provider shilling their product, but they still wouldn't bother to answer UUNET's questions and outright lied to customers about whose fault problems were. UUNET would send them sheets detailing the problem with Netmanage's software (and how to fix it) and Netmanage would CONTINUE to blame UUNET and tell customers there was nothing they could do! Oh well. I'll pick up the phone monday and just buy 4.5. This version doesn't do NFS anyways, and I'd really like to use my desktop machine to serve it w/o jerking around with some mini netware or something. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "I timed it. It took 22 seconds for him to hate you." - Chicago Hope ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 16 04:32:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16044; Sun, 16 Apr 95 04:32:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13347; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 04:22:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 04:22:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from maxwell.otago.ac.nz by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13337; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 04:22:23 -0400 Received: by maxwell.otago.ac.nz (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07539; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 20:22:48 +1200 Message-Id: <9504160822.AA07539@maxwell.otago.ac.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 20:23:07 +1200 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: mccord@maxwell.otago.ac.nz (Alan McCord) Subject: Re: Hooray! Cold boot problem solved Hi, >>I am now on my second TP755CE trying to solve a problem where it will >>not boot up in the morning when cold (memory size displayed, floppy >>LED on, nothing else happens). After numerous call to IBM tech >>support, they finally asked "do you have an ethernet PCMCIA card >>installed?" It turns out that this known is a problem with the XIRCOM >>Performance Series Ethernet Adapters: with the card installed, the TP >>has to "warm up" before it will successfully boot. Apparently IBM >>and XIRCOM are still scratching their heads over this one. The only >>solution at the moment is either to live with it, or boot first, then >>install the card. Does anyone have any suggestions as to which >>ethernet card I should ask my pc vendor to swap for the XIRCOM? Thanks. >> > Mark Bell wrote: >I have to chime in and say all I have had are problems interfacing a Xircom >Ethernet + Modem I (10bT & V.32Terbo) to my TP755C. Each time I Email >cs@xircom.com, I get a "new or different" way to get the card to work. >Their redirector for DOS doesn't work, so the modem us useless to me. It >took me a month to get the card to be recognized, but WfWG hangs on start >up every time. When I emailed tech support, they had a whole new set of >rules to get it to work in a "work around" type of way. They want me to >flash upgrade, but the 755 just gags on it. I also noticed "work around" >methods for 750's too. I ended up throwing up my hands and ordering a >Megahertz Xjack. Now that was easy, seamless installation. I had it working >in a few minutes. It also runs beautifully in DOS and Windows. I would >wholeheartedly recommend this unit to anyone. Meanwhile, the $500 Xircom >card is gathering dust. I would like to hear from other people who have >either had problems or actual easy installs with Xircom PCMCIA cards in >their ThinkPads. I gave up getting my first Xircom ethernet fax/modem card to work in my TP 755C, and ended up getting an "IBM Ethernet II Credit Card Adapter" and a separate "New Media Corporation" fax/modem card for about the same price. Both work fine under WFW but now I need to run NT.... I don't have any idea if NT drivers exist for either of these two cards. I have heard that the NEW Xircom Ethernet Fax/Modem (called II?) does have NT drivers for it, but I'd really like to get my existing hardware working under NT. Any suggestions or experience with IBM cards under NT? Al //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ \\ Alan McCord Phone: +64-(3)-4797805 // // Physics Department Fax: +64-(3)-4797904 \\ \\ University of Otago Email: mccord@maxwell.otago.ac.nz // // P.O.Box 56 University Telephone Paging System: \\ \\ Dunedin +64-(3)-4797500-beep-42 // // New Zealand Home Phone: +64-(3)-4780087 \\ \\ Home Fax: +64-(3)-4780666 // \\ Cell Phone: +64-(25)-345901 \\ //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 16 11:33:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08530; Sun, 16 Apr 95 11:33:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09075; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 11:20:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 11:20:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09066; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 11:20:56 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id LAA04235; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 11:17:38 -0400 Message-Id: <199504161517.LAA04235@wilma.cs.utk.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: a friend wants to buy a laptop to run BSDI... Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 11:17:32 -0400 From: Keith Moore A friend of mine wants to buy a new laptop to run BSDI. I run NetBSD on my TP750, but it's been a real pain to work around all of the incompatibilities (I'm currently pulling my hair out trying to get NetBSD 1.0 to run). Are the newer models any better, and if so, how? Here's my reply to a message he sent me. If anyone has additional information that seems apropos, I'll forward it to him. In particular, I'd like to hear from anyone else who is running *BSD on a thinkpad. Thanks, Keith ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (my reply) > > Thinking of a laptop upgrade. As you know, I am a BSDI user. Some > questions. > > Of what compatibility issues should I be aware? What models should I avoid? The later thinkpad models have fewer compatibility problems, but here's what I've run into: + 2.88 Mb floppy drives/controllers are not widely supported. Even though the hardware is usually software compatible with 1.44 Mb hardware, the bios will report a different value. The newer thinkpads have 1.44 Mb drives so this is not a problem for them. + floppy disk change line in a ThinkPad has the opposite assertion level from AT-bus machine. May not be a problem for BSDI (NetBSD doesn't care); but this was a problem for Linux. + keyboard controller on my TP750 emulates a very picky PS/2 keyboard. It acts like an AT keyboard after booting, but if the BSDI device driver resets the keyboard, it might not be able to deal with the scan codes that result. Also things like the power switch and some of the special functions don't seem to work after resetting the keyboard controller. YMMV. + mouse controller (trackpoint) has similar problems. It mostly acts like a PS/2 mouse -- but is not recognized as one when the device driver tries to probe it. + sound chip on older models isn't compatible with much of anything. newer models emulate a soundblaster in hardware. + XFree86 3.x works on my monochrome model, though it doesn't quite handle the 90c24 chip right in all modes. It seems to work fine if you treat the display as a 256 color SVGA. XFree86 2.x works fine, but may not support graphics acceleration. + There's a wierd bug on the TP750 where it wants to use the top 4K of conventional memory for the BIOS. If the OS stomps on it, the system will just get wedged. (One symptom was that an attempt to use a parallel printer caused the system to cold boot.) I'm not sure if this "feature" still exists on later machines. My best guess is that you'll need to do some kernel tweaking to get things running smoothly. Again, maybe the later models work better, but I'd ask BSDI about it if I were you. As for models to look for / avoid: + In general, the 360 and 75x series are pretty nice. The 701 (butterfly) is supposed to be nice also, but I haven't seen one. I don't like their subnotebooks. My dad has a 501. It works okay but I can't stand typing on its keyboard. If you want a subnotebook, a Compaq Aero is nicer. + make sure you can get a dual-voltage charger and extra batteries. some of the recent models come with only a single-voltage brick (which is smaller and lighter but probably not what you need). also, some models use different batteries than others, and not all of them have spares or external chargers available yet. (ask John Klensin about his) + IBM has a gazillion different laptop displays. I think they paniced when the things were in short supply, and rather than try to get enough of any one display type to satisfy the demand, they just bought displays from everybody. I still prefer monochrome because it gives a lighter machine and better battery life, but all of the color ones have better contrast (given a reasonable choice of foreground/background colors) than a mono LCD. + Disks come in sizes from 170 Mb (just discontinued?) to over a Gb. If you want to upgrade later you can replace it with a 2.5" 17mm high drive, but you have to open up the little disk carrier and break warning seals etc. Or you can buy a thinkpad-ready disk complete with its own carrier -- but they're fairly expensive compared with bare drives. I have a 340 Mb drive which means I'm always trying to find something to delete. For a new system, I'd get the 810 Mb drive at least. > How do BSD and power management interact? What's the result on battery > life? + My guess is that there's no support for APM in BSD. Some of the power management is done in hardware, and this will probably still work. But it won't turn off your devices when you're not using them -- so your battery life won't be as good as under windows. I get around 3 hours per battery doing things like editing. NiMH don't have the same memory problems as NiCd batteries, but it still helps to do full charge-discharge cycles. > The TFT display seems small. Will I like the STN better? Yes, but any color display you get will be better than what you have now. > Can I leave it on for weeks on end? Yes. I keep my TP plugged in the docking station at home when I'm not on the road. > Connection for external monitor? works fine for me. On my machine, the video controller generates different clocks depending on whether the external monitor is enabled. There's a key on the keyboard that toggles between one and the other. > Where does one get good pricing and selection? sorry, can't help you here. IBM does have a place to mail order discontinued models at reasonable prices, if you're interested in that I can find it. I'll forward your question to the tp750 mailing list to see what other advice they might have. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 16 21:32:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14905; Sun, 16 Apr 95 21:32:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11664; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:11:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:10:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11650; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:10:49 -0400 Received: from by (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA27402; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:18:51 +0900 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:18:51 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199504170118.KAA27402@Pion> To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu, jesse@spine.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: C-A-D doesn't work w/ new 1.2.4 Linux kernel w/ APM! Cc: chan4@CS.UTK.EDU I am using a 1.2.4 kernel with APM on my TP755C. The CAD works just fine. -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 16 21:50:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16092; Sun, 16 Apr 95 21:50:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13256; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:38:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:38:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13246; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:38:05 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA21630 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 09:35:39 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199504170135.JAA21630@baijuyi> Subject: Re: "Cat's Tongue" TrackPoint Caps (fwd) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 09:35:39 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text ` Forwarded message: ` ` I'm on my last (old style) trackpoint cover. Do you have the ` fone # and part # of the new type of cover and where to call to ` order? Going thru' my TP archives, I found this dated last year. Hope this helps. Finally I'll be able to get them from IBM S'pore! cheers. > My sources tell me that the part no. is > 84G6536 - $15.50 per package > To order: 1-800-388-7087--they take credit cards. Expect a 15-30 day > backorder. > --andy > Thanks for the info, Andy. I called the number you listed above, and > here is what I was told: > The $15.50 package price is for three (3) caps, two red and one black. > Expected delivery time is 5-10 days. > They do not offer any kind of a group discount, so I guess it's every > man for himself. > Thanks again to Andy for doing the legwork on this... > -key ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 17 11:00:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09779; Mon, 17 Apr 95 11:00:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21270; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:48:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:48:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21255; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:48:37 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA01972; Mon, 17 Apr 95 08:48:00 MDT Date: Mon, 17 Apr 95 08:48:00 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9504171448.AA01972@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: "Cat's Tongue" TrackPoint Caps > The $15.50 package price is for three (3) caps, two red and one black. Although this is what I was told when I ordered, what I actually *got* was a total of four caps, only two of which were the new textured type. At $7.75 each, IBM is laughing all the way to the bank, but I still think everyone should try these replacement caps. Having already paid IBM's over-inflated price for the ThinkPad in the first place, what's another $15.50? I guess it's an attitude like mine that allows IBM to get away with this thievery. But, from a quality standpoint, I don't feel as though I've ever been burned by IBM... -- Karl E. Yeanoplos Denver, CO. kyeanopl@den.mmc.com / key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 17 11:00:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09784; Mon, 17 Apr 95 11:00:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21244; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:48:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:48:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21234; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 10:48:21 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA20725; Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:49:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 95 10:49:07 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504171449.AA20725@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: introduction I have been away from this list for a while, so I will reintroduce myself. I teach at NYU, and am currently working on an Ada 95 compiler. I use a TP 755 with 810 meg drive and 36 megs mem as my only machine. I havce previously owned a 700,720 and 750, I am thinking of getting a 701, is this similar in basic design to the 75x series? Also does anyone know status of Pentium announcements for this or other machines in the TP line. An IBM guy told me April 1 for the 755, but I have not seen any official announcement, did I miss something? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 17 16:42:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00451; Mon, 17 Apr 95 16:42:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24709; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:31:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:31:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24687; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:31:23 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144280>; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:31:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: MIDI port options Message-Id: <95Apr17.163112edt.144280@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:31:08 -0400 One of the things I gave up (and what I miss most) in going from a 755CD to a CE was the built-in MIDI I/O port. I'd like to get this functionality and am wondering what my options are. Can anyone comment on whether there are working MIDI<->X converters, where X is the ThinkPad's: * serial port * parallel port * PCMCIA slot I don't even know if such devices exist for the last two. Presumably, the appropriate drivers need to come with such a unit. Anyone have any direct experience with external MIDI ports on ThinkPads? Thanks again, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 17 16:43:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02094; Mon, 17 Apr 95 16:43:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24637; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:30:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:30:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24572; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:30:36 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144280>; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:30:26 -0400 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Preinstalled Windows 3.10 or 3.11? Message-Id: <95Apr17.163026edt.144280@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:30:21 -0400 Silly question: when I ask Windows what version it is, I get 3.10, but when I use the diskette factory, I get 3.11 disks. So, what is really pre-installed on 755 series machines, 3.10 or 3.11? If 3.10, is it worth going to 3.11? Thanks, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 17 16:57:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04084; Mon, 17 Apr 95 16:57:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26202; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:42:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:42:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26188; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:42:38 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 0907; Mon, 17 Apr 95 16:42:33 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 8511; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:42:32 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 17 Apr 95 16:41:56 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA37718; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:41:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:41:55 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9504172041.AA37718@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: stevens@watson.ibm.com Subject: Re: TCP/IP Connectivity to UNIX machines For those interested, here is how I connect my 750 to a UNIX box with a 3Com Ethernet PCMCIA card and free/share software. Step 1: get the following software: NCSA Telnet from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu MS Lan Manager software files: protman.sys, netbind.exe, protocol.ini (I can't figure out which site I got these at, but I have the zip file, it is called protm11.zip) Packet driver: dis_pkt9.zip from oak.oakland.edu, or comes with kermit from watsun.cc.columbia.edu Windows shim: twsk20b.zip from oak.oakland.edu or comes with kermit XFS from lwfws1.uni-paderborn.de NDIS driver (comes with your ethernet board) Step 2: install the packet driver as follows. C:\CONFIG.SYS: -------------------------------------------------------- ...stuff deleted... rem autodrv stuff is unnecessary for this config. device=c:\tcp\protman.sys /i:c:\tcp device=c:\3com\elpc3.dos device=c:\packet\dis_pkt9.dos -------------------------------------------------------- C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT: -------------------------------------------------------- ...stuff deleted... c:\tcp\netbind c:\packet\winpkt 0x60 -------------------------------------------------------- C:\TCP\PROTOCOL.INI: -------------------------------------------------------- [PROTMAN] DriverName=PROTMAN$ [ELPC3] DriverName=ELPC3$ MAXTRANSMITS=10 PCMCIA_ENABLER=YES [pktdrv] drivername=ELPC3$ bindings=elpc3 intvec=0x60 -------------------------------------------------------- Step 3: To get telnet and ftp, configure "config.tel" to get NCSA Telnet running, as per documentation. To mount Unix disks on the DOS box, configure "init" and "hosts" as per the XFS documentation. --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 17 18:04:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15209; Mon, 17 Apr 95 18:04:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02676; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:48:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:48:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02657; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:48:19 -0400 Received: from hp.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA20824; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:46:54 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.15//ident-1.0) id AA169365625; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:53:45 -0600 Message-Id: <199504172153.AA169365625@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: MIDI port options To: elf@dgp.toronto.edu (Eugene Fiume) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:53:44 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <95Apr17.163112edt.144280@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> from "Eugene Fiume" at Apr 17, 95 04:31:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > One of the things I gave up (and what I miss most) in going from a 755CD to > a CE was the built-in MIDI I/O port. I'd like to get this functionality > and am wondering what my options are. Can anyone comment on whether there > are working MIDI<->X converters, where X is the ThinkPad's: > > * serial port > * parallel port > * PCMCIA slot > > I don't even know if such devices exist for the last two. Presumably, the > appropriate drivers need to come with such a unit. Anyone have any direct > experience with external MIDI ports on ThinkPads? > > Thanks again, > Eugene Fiume. I'm sorry I don't have an answer for you on this but I do have a question (8^). I have a 755CD and want to use the MIDI. Do I need a special cable to do this? Where could I find some software to experiment with MIDI. My wife is a musician and one of the selling points of the 755CD was the MIDI so now I would like to show her that it works! Thanks! +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 17 19:02:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23324; Mon, 17 Apr 95 19:02:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08618; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:52:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:52:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08606; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:52:49 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA19796 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:52:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:52:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199504172252.RAA19796@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: Re: Preinstalled Windows 3.10 or 3.11? >Silly question: when I ask Windows what version it is, I get 3.10, but >when I use the diskette factory, I get 3.11 disks. So, what is really >pre-installed on 755 series machines, 3.10 or 3.11? If 3.10, is it >worth going to 3.11? > >Thanks, >Eugene Fiume. > i downloaded the 3.11 upgrade from microsoft, unpacked the some of the core .dll files that get upgraded in \windows\system, and compared them to the files that came pre-installed on my thinkpad 755CE. i did not do an exhaustive compare, but the 4 or 5 files which i did randomly compare had the same file size & date as the files in the 3.11 upgrade kit. also note that the netware 4.0 and above drivers are present pre-installed on the thinkpad; these drivers were certainly not part of the original windows 3.1 distribution! thus, my guess is that at least what the 755CE/CsE/CD machines came preinstalled with is actually 3.11. --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 00:27:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10286; Tue, 18 Apr 95 00:27:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00355; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 00:03:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 00:03:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns9000.furman.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00343; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 00:03:35 -0400 From: Received: from by ns9000.furman.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA206738306; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 00:11:46 -0400 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 00:11:23 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: Windows 95 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Item Subject: Message text Windows 95 Preview Program is up and running on my ThinkPad 750! (monochrome LCD, 33MHz, 20MB RAM). I'm quite pleased so far. I think I like it better than OS/2 Warp. Performance is *much* better, particularly with 16-bit Windows applications. DOS app performance also seems better while running one session, though I suspect OS/2 Warp does a better job of handling multiple sessions. It's been as stable as OS/2 so far, but I have yet to really start pushing it. The DriveSpace compression program is much much better than Stacker for OS/2 and DOS. Plug and Play really works! I set up Win95 while I had the TP away from my Port Replicator I. It auto-detected and set up the Intel Faxmodem. When I attached the Port Replicator and booted up, Win95 auto-detected the different monitor, the two extra PCMCIA slots, and even the printer, an HP LaserJet 4L, and set up a new configuration that it's smart enough to switch to when docked. This is really slick. I've done a pretty good job so far of setting driver support up. If I load VESA.EXE in config.sys, I can use the Win95 Western Digital drivers no problem. I can do dynamic resolution changes. I loaded the Win 3.1 sound drivers for WAV and MIDI support, and they work fine. The PCMCIA stuff in Win 95 works just fine. It doesn't turn on the little green PCMCIA light on my TP's row of indicator lights, but I never liked that light anyway. Power management seems to be the only problem. I loaded "Advanced Power Management with Intel SL support" upon install. The battery guage shows up on the taskbar, but the Power Management control panel won't give me the option of adding "suspend" to the Start menu (maybe this just hasn't been implemented yet). Sometimes when I use the keyboard suspend option, it works. Other times, it doesn't. When I resume, the speaker light flashes when sounds are played (it doesn't before suspending). I can't suspend from the ThinkPad Features Fuel program. I can't hibernate at all--trying to do so just lands me in suspend mode. I suspect that if I start playing around with mixing the real-mode card and socket services drivers and maybe change the PCMCIA configuration around some I can get it all working just the way I want it (transparently, like the rest of the OS seems to work.) If anyone has this done already, I sure would appreciate it if you would reply via e-mail. I fooled around for a long time getting this stuff to work just right under OS/2, and I don't quite feel like going through that again. Thank You. Wesley T. Dunaway From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 05:40:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24226; Tue, 18 Apr 95 05:40:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22704; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 05:26:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 05:26:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA22676; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 05:26:36 -0400 Received: from fas by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 05:26:31 -0400 Message-Id: <199504180926.FAA25351@husc.harvard.edu> Received: from fas.harvard.edu by fas (5.0/16.2) id AA12927; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 05:25:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 05:25:11 -0400 X-Sender: chan4@scunix3.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Hard Drive Cases... I saw an ad for hard drive cases ($135)... The place selling them is called Indus Group, and the number is 800-644-6387. Just passing this info. along. If anyone has ordered from this group before, is the service and price good? -- Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com chan4@fas.harvard.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 06:13:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27684; Tue, 18 Apr 95 06:13:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25805; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 06:01:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 06:01:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA25795; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 06:01:22 -0400 Received: by chorus.chorus.fr; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:01:10 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:01:10 +0200 From: Stephane Eranian Message-Id: <199504181001.AA00438@chorus.chorus.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Linux+dosemu+superstor.... Hello, I wonder if somebody on this list ever succeeded to access a compressed DOS partition. My TP comes with SuperStor. I made a 40MB DOS partition and decided to use Superstor so as to get approximatively 80MB of DOS free space. I have kept 4MB of non-compressed space (logically D:). I used dosemu0.60, my DOS *physical* DOS parition is named /dev/hda1. So I inserted the following line in the /etc/dosemu.conf file: disk { partition "/dev/hda1" } And commented my diskimage configuration. Now when I boot the system, I get the DOS banner "Lancement d'IBM DOS...." (french language spoken here). The superStor driver has been found on the partition. I see Compressed UNIT: C:, NON compressed unit: D: (or something very similar). The DOS executes the config.sys, I use a file with multiple menu choices. The selection comes up normally. But after my selection is made, the DOS fails indicating that command.com cannot be found in C:\command.com (I do have one actually). I made the same but this time I previously removed the config.sys and autoexec.bat. I get the same result: command.com not found on C:. the system does not seem to recognize the compressed unit. Luckily, I have a copy of my command.com on the non compressed unit (D:). When I launch D:\command.com, it's ok but going to C: gives me an error. Does someone already have the same problem ? Is there something special to indicate in the /etc/dosemu.conf file ? Or perphaps is there known incompatibilites between dosemu and superstor ? Thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 10:49:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08643; Tue, 18 Apr 95 10:49:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14594; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:31:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:31:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns9000.furman.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14584; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:31:02 -0400 From: Received: from by ns9000.furman.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA074454987; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 10:23:08 -0400 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 10:22:39 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Windows 95 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Item Subject: Message text >>Your performance numbers are not that >>much of a suprise given that you ran >>OS/2 on a stacked FAT partition. I *have* run it on a stacked FAT partition. This I found to be too slow to tolerate. Recently, I have been running, like you, with a complete HPFS system. Without compression, though, it's been hard to find disk space on my little 170MB hard drive. >>I run OS/2 >>on my thinkpad and have set it up with an HPFS >>partition. Performance if VERY much faster than >>running under FAT. I agree. Wesley Dunaway From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 14:01:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09761; Tue, 18 Apr 95 14:01:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28935; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:42:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:42:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28924; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:42:26 -0400 Received: from bnme (bnme.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.152.138]) by cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA14772; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:40:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:40:48 -0400 Message-Id: <199504181740.NAA14772@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: bnm@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1b10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "Brooks N. McNeely" Subject: Re: Hard Drive Cases... At 05:25 AM 4/18/95 -0400, Derek V. Chan wrote: >I saw an ad for hard drive cases ($135)... > >The place selling them is called Indus Group, and the number is >800-644-6387. Just passing this info. along. If anyone has ordered from >this group before, is the service and price good? >-- > Derek V. Chan > dvchan@netcom.com > chan4@fas.harvard.edu > Spring Comdex starts next week in Atlanta. There's a good chance that the manufacturer may have a booth. If so, there's a fair chance that they may have a "show special" which may be a better price than one can normally get. These trade shows are one place where the vendors often by-pass their resellers, whether it's strictly allowed by their contractual agreements or not. Brooks From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 15:30:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22539; Tue, 18 Apr 95 15:30:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03530; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:55:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:55:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03513; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:55:44 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA16919; Tue, 18 Apr 95 14:56:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 14:56:27 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504181856.AA16919@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Dunaway_Wesley/furman@furman.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Windows 95 it seems a shame to have a thinkpad with only 170M of disk. My advice to someone would be that if you can't afford at least a 350M disk, look at a less expensive machine in the first place. 170M is simply too small a disk these days. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 17:19:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06588; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:19:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14078; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:56:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:56:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14058; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:56:52 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA13376 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:56:45 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA34371; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:57:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:57:34 -0400 From: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu (Joshua Hosseinoff) Message-Id: <9504182057.AA34371@yu1.yu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Parallel port sound card? Does anyone know of a parallel port sound card that works with games like Doom? Since the builtin sound on the 750's and 755's (with the exception of the CE and CD) aren't register compatible with Soundblaster, they don't work with the Protected mode quasi-operating system that doom uses. Josh Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 17:52:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12022; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:52:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17278; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:39:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:39:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17265; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:39:39 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA18616; Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:40:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 17:40:14 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504182140.AA18616@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? DOOM works fine on the 755, I play it all the time with sound, you have to run in a full screen session. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 18:52:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20160; Tue, 18 Apr 95 18:52:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21382; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:29:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:29:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21371; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:29:13 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA26835 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:28:53 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199504182228.AA26835@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Windows 95 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:29:06 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Dunaway_Wesley/furman@furman.edu" at Apr 18, 95 00:11:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Windows 95 Preview Program is up and running on my ThinkPad 750! > (monochrome LCD, 33MHz, 20MB RAM). I'm quite pleased so far. I think I > like it better than OS/2 Warp. Performance is *much* better, I had the same inital reaction about Win95 being "better" than Warp. After some use though, I came across a number of things that _really_ bugged me. First, the multi-tasking is still not up to par. Another thing that bugged me was the way Win95 seems to push you into its way of doing things...I don't know if that makes sense, but it started to bug me after a bit. Although there are many choices available, it still seemed to be all too restricted. And the pop-up menu choices...which human factors guy designed those? Another important thing is that I do a lot of cross-platform things and need long filenames. Win95 may have long filenames under the GUI, but if you need to use a DOS-based app like perl or even zip, you lose the long filenames. Hopefully, that'll be fixed as new apps come out. One thing that was a plus at first rapidly became an annoyance and that is the 3-d effects and little animations all over. I think the animations can be shut off at least, although they did impress all my friends! ;) The instant make-over for existing apps is also a nice touch. I'm surprised that you think perf is much better with Win95 even with 20 mb RAM. If you had less than 16, I wouldn't find it surprising, but you seem to be at the mark that I needed to overcome in order to really see Warp move smoothly... > particularly with 16-bit Windows applications. DOS app performance also > seems better while running one session, though I suspect OS/2 Warp does > a better job of handling multiple sessions. It's been as stable as OS/2 I don't think DOS perf under Win95 is anywhere _near_ DOS perf under OS/2 _if_ you take the time to tweak things under OS/2. > so far, but I have yet to really start pushing it. The DriveSpace > compression program is much much better than Stacker for OS/2 and DOS. One thing is that Win95 and Warp _both_ seem to be a step backward in stability! Boy, if a unix only had Photoshop... The integration that Win95 achieves with its applets is truly awe-inspiring though... > Plug and Play really works! I set up Win95 while I had the TP away from Yeah, it took me by surprise. > no problem. I can do dynamic resolution changes. I loaded the Win 3.1 Dynamic resolutions changes are definately a nice point. > Power management seems to be the only problem. I loaded "Advanced Power Surprise! :) Maybe one day, notebook manufacturers and OS makers can get a clue and get power management down pat... > can't suspend from the ThinkPad Features Fuel program. I can't > hibernate at all--trying to do so just lands me in suspend mode. I hate to ask, but have you made sure you have a hibernation file? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 20:01:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00273; Tue, 18 Apr 95 20:01:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27488; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:46:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:46:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27469; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:46:52 -0400 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (koriel.Sun.COM) id AA15892; Tue, 18 Apr 95 16:46:37 PDT Received: from swap.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA29777; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:46:33 -0700 Received: by swap.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05024; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:44:05 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:44:05 -0700 From: Bob.Page@Eng.Sun.COM (Bob Page) Message-Id: <9504182344.AA05024@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> To: ychou@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <199504182228.AA26835@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <199504182228.AA26835@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> > Boy, if a unix only had Photoshop... Runs fine on Solaris/SPARC. I assume it also runs on SGI machines. ..bob From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 20:53:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09663; Tue, 18 Apr 95 20:53:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01627; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:39:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:39:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01599; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 20:39:43 -0400 Received: from p28.slip.net (sfsp112.slip.net [204.160.88.142]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA05832; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:39:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199504190039.RAA05832@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:40:07 -0700 To: Sean Chou , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Windows 95 At 05:29 PM 4/18/95 -0500, Sean Chou wrote: >One thing is that Win95 and Warp _both_ seem to be a step backward >in stability! Boy, if a unix only had Photoshop... I hear you.. I understand there's a photoshop for solaris, but not for solaris x86.. I'd switch if there were. ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 22:43:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27881; Tue, 18 Apr 95 22:43:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09114; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 22:27:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 22:27:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from houws001.shl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09104; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 22:27:38 -0400 Received: from houmg001.shl.com by houws001.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA16641; Tue, 18 Apr 95 21:28:08 CDT Received: by houmg001.shl.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F949116@houmg001.shl.com>; Tue, 18 Apr 95 21:27:02 PDT From: NELSON Tim To: tp750 Subject: RE: Windows 95 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 19:15:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F949116@houmg001.shl.com> Encoding: 56 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I am running a TP750Ce with a Dock-1 I just installed Windows 95 (final beta release) from scratch (that is, I did a DELTREE on my WINDOWS directory). I did the following: 1) installed Windows 95 from CD-ROM taking all the defaults At this point, Everything kinda worked, except my PCMCIA slots, sound, and COM port. 2) I installed the Audio Features from the Audio Features Diskette v 1.31 It didn't work at first, so I editted SYSTEM.INI and put the following in [386enh] section: device=tpaudvxd.386 All the other sections in SYSTEM.INI were set up OK, and all the files were copied to the right place. Just the [386enh] section was wrong. 3) I "Added new Hardware", and told it I had a COMMUNICATION port. It didn't believe me at first, so I editted SYSTEM.INI and put the following in [386enh] section: ;device=*vcd device=ibmvcd.386 Note that I commented out the device=*.vcd I copied ibmvcd.386 from the IBM Utility Disk 2 (of 2) release 2.00 to \WINDOWS\SYSTEM it works. 4) I went into control panel, PCMCIA, and told it that it was supposed to be on when docked. I do not remember the exact steps... I hacked at it until it worked... So the question is... Did I miss anything? ---------------------------------------------------- Timothy Nelson Chief Scientist, SHL Systemhouse Corp. internet: tnelson@shl.com ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 18 23:51:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08051; Tue, 18 Apr 95 23:51:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14007; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:38:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:37:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13996; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:37:56 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id XAA02578; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:41:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 23:41:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Sean Chou Cc: tp Subject: Re: Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <199504182228.AA26835@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 18 Apr 1995, Sean Chou wrote: > One thing is that Win95 and Warp _both_ seem to be a step backward > in stability! Boy, if a unix only had Photoshop... Does Solaris count? Sun _gives_ away Photoshop with a lot of Sun purchases. (Or at least they were at SIGGRAPH last year) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 14:13:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02741; Wed, 19 Apr 95 14:13:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12922; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:46:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:46:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns9000.furman.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12904; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:46:29 -0400 From: Received: from by ns9000.furman.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA172453650; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 13:47:31 -0400 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:46:53 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2F949116@houmg001.shl.com> Subject: RE: Windows 95 To: tnelson@shl.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Item Subject: Message text > I am running a TP750Ce with a Dock-1 I don't know much about the Dock-1 (except that it seems to cause people lots of driver problems when they try to get it to work.) > I just installed Windows 95 (final beta release) from scratch (that is, I > did a DELTREE on my WINDOWS directory). Okay. > > I did the following: > > 1) installed Windows 95 from CD-ROM taking all the defaults > > At this point, Everything kinda worked, except my PCMCIA slots, sound, and > COM port. The PCMCIA slots didn't work because you have to use the PC Card wizard to set them up after the initial install (protects you if you had real-mode drivers running before.) The sound didn't work because Win95 doesn't have native drivers for it. I don't know why the COM port didn't work. I know mine is listed in the hardware list, but I've not actually tried using it to see if it works (just assumed that it would). > 2) I installed the Audio Features from the Audio Features Diskette v 1.31 > > It didn't work at first, so I editted SYSTEM.INI and put the following in > [386enh] section: > > device=tpaudvxd.386 > > All the other sections in SYSTEM.INI were set up OK, and all the files were > copied to the right place. Just the [386enh] section was wrong. Yep. That's just what I did. > 3) I "Added new Hardware", and told it I had a COMMUNICATION port. > > It didn't believe me at first, so I editted SYSTEM.INI and put the following > in [386enh] section: > > ;device=*vcd > device=ibmvcd.386 > > Note that I commented out the device=*.vcd > I copied ibmvcd.386 from the IBM Utility Disk 2 (of 2) release 2.00 to > \WINDOWS\SYSTEM > > it works. > > Okay. > 4) I went into control panel, PCMCIA, and told it that it was supposed to be > on when docked. Okay. > I do not remember the exact steps... I hacked at it until it worked... > > > So the question is... Did I miss anything? Don't think so. You didn't mention video, though. To use the Win95 Western Digital driver at any resolution higher than 640x480x16, the VESA.EXE driver from the Video Features disk must be loaded in config.sys. I'm assuming that the 750 and the 750Ce have the same video specs (I'm pretty sure they do.) Wesley Dunaway From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 14:22:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03827; Wed, 19 Apr 95 14:22:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14837; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:06:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:06:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14826; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:06:32 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15031; Wed, 19 Apr 95 11:05:23 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id LAA06065; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:05:22 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9504191105.ZM6063@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:05:21 -0700 In-Reply-To: Bob.Page@Eng.Sun.COM (Bob Page) "Re: Windows 95" (Apr 18, 4:44pm) References: <199504182228.AA26835@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> <9504182344.AA05024@swap.Eng.Sun.COM> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Windows 95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 18, 4:44pm, Bob Page wrote: > Subject: Re: Windows 95 > > Boy, if a unix only had Photoshop... > > Runs fine on Solaris/SPARC. I assume it also runs on SGI machines. > > ..bob >-- End of excerpt from Bob Page Yep. Runs on SGI's (IRIX 5.x) as well (and about an order of magnitude faster). Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 17:59:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06047; Wed, 19 Apr 95 17:59:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00695; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:41:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:41:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00685; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:41:10 -0400 Received: from ppp13.basenet.net (ppp13.basenet.net [204.248.92.13]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA01482 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 15:40:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 15:40:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199504192040.PAA01482@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: PC Factory Outlet Several of you have asked me about the IBM PC Factory Outlet. I just requested their latest offering list. They told me that would be OK by them if I put the list out to you. There is a lot more than just laptops. I have been unable to locate it on the Net but that doesn't mean that it isn't there. I know none of us are real keen on the idea of advertising on the net, so I thought I'd ask you all first if you have a problem with me distributing it to this list until I get it up on my homepage (hopefully in May). I don't get any money for doing it (boy, wouldn't that be nice). It comes out about once a month. Let me know and I'll let majority rule on the decision, unless I'm told otherwise by the powers that be. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 20:01:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25972; Wed, 19 Apr 95 20:01:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08926; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:51:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:51:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08905; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:51:28 -0400 Received: from hp.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA19966; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:50:05 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.16//ident-1.0) id AA109145839; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:57:19 -0600 Message-Id: <199504192357.AA109145839@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet To: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 17:57:18 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199504192040.PAA01482@mtvernon1.basenet.net> from "Kris D. Williams" at Apr 19, 95 03:40:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Several of you have asked me about the IBM PC Factory Outlet. I just > requested their latest offering list. They told me that would be OK by them > if I put the list out to you. There is a lot more than just laptops. > > I have been unable to locate it on the Net but that doesn't mean that it > isn't there. I know none of us are real keen on the idea of advertising on > the net, so I thought I'd ask you all first if you have a problem with me > distributing it to this list until I get it up on my homepage (hopefully in > May). I don't get any money for doing it (boy, wouldn't that be nice). It > comes out about once a month. Let me know and I'll let majority rule on the > decision, unless I'm told otherwise by the powers that be. I'm all for it. I like to see what is available and what things are selling for. Since you won't be getting a kick back on sales it seems more like its an offering of info rather than a commercial thing. > |===============================================================| > |Kris D. Williams | > |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | > |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | > |My opinions are my own (really!) | > |===============================================================| +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 21:59:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14061; Wed, 19 Apr 95 21:59:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16599; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:52:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:52:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16587; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:52:07 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA25656; Wed, 19 Apr 95 21:51:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 21:51:32 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504200151.AA25656@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: PCCHAN@POMONA.EDU, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU use Adlib sound, this is usually the choice that works best for many games. definitely it is NOT the PC speaker! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 22:07:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15047; Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:07:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16272; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:48:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:48:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thumper.pomona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16261; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:48:43 -0400 Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #9731) id <01HPJ7IS7ON48WXX1G@POMONA.EDU>; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:47:36 -0700 (PDT) From: scooby doo Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? In-Reply-To: Your message dated "Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:40:14 -0400" <9504182140.AA18616@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HPJ7MXJLUG8WXX1G@POMONA.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >DOOM works fine on the 755, I play it all the time with sound, you have >to run in a full screen session. really? is this SB sound or PC speaker? i have a TP755 and I can never get it to work under SB emulation because it doesnt work under protected mode. how do you do it? paul From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 22:11:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15093; Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:11:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17107; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:58:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:58:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thumper.pomona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17097; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:58:05 -0400 Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #9731) id <01HPJ7IS7ON48WXX1G@POMONA.EDU>; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:56:39 -0700 (PDT) From: scooby doo Subject: windows 3.11 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HPJ7WQ3SXM8WXX1G@POMONA.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT i know this is slightly off topic but someone mentioned that they downloaded the windows 3.11 for workgroups upgrade from microsoft. i have a tp755 that came with win 3.1 and i was wondering if anyone knew where i could get 3.11 thanks in advace paul From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 22:41:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19297; Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:41:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19951; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:34:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:34:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19940; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:34:33 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA25967; Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:35:11 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:35:11 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504200235.AA25967@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: PCCHAN@POMONA.EDU, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU yup works just fine, been dooming away with sound on my TP755 for a while using adlib as the sound selection. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 19 22:41:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19405; Wed, 19 Apr 95 22:41:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19505; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:29:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:29:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thumper.pomona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19489; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 22:29:10 -0400 Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #9731) id <01HPJ917VT288WXYO3@POMONA.EDU>; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:28:43 -0700 (PDT) From: scooby doo Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? In-Reply-To: Your message dated "Wed, 19 Apr 1995 21:51:32 -0400" <9504200151.AA25656@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HPJ91JSVGI8WXYO3@POMONA.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT adlib sound works for protected mode games like doom? ???? paul From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 08:22:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08064; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:22:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02814; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:03:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:03:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02804; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:03:15 -0400 Received: from ppp6.basenet.net (ppp6.basenet.net [204.248.92.6]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA32391 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 06:02:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 06:02:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199504201102.GAA32391@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: PC Factory offering list Here it is. Whenever I get new ones I'll send them out. THE IBM PC FACTORY OUTLET WELCOME TO THE IBM PC FACTORY OUTLET AND PC FACTORY OUTLET STORE!! 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DATA, 9600 DATA/FAX or 14.4 DATA/FAX) : ALL PS/1's listed above have Microsoft WORKS for Windows and Prodigy software preloaded in additon to DOS and= Windows! -SYSTEMS ABOVE DO NOT INCLUDE A MONITOR UNLESS NOTED.- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ** VALUEPOINT PERFORMANCE SERIES SYSTEMS ** EQUIV SLOT/ OPEN INCL MODEL PROC-MHZ COND MODEL MEM HD GRAPH BIT BAY S PRICE -------- -------- ---- --- --- ----- ----- ---- --- --- ----- 6492-E3J 486DX2-66 RFRB L0D 4MB NONE SVGA 8-16 5 N $1175 6472-E04 486SX-33 RFRB C3B 4MB 270MB SVGA 3-16 1 D/W $1210 6472-E06 486DX-33 RFRB H0D 4MB NONE SVGA 3-16 2 N $1240 6482-E13 486SX-33 RFRB C3B 4MB 270MB SVGA 5-16 3 D/W $1260 6472-E0B 486DX-33 RFRB H3B 4MB 270MB SVGA 3-16 1 D/W $1340 6482-E1H 486DX-33 RFRB H4F 8MB 364MB SVGA 5-16 3 D/W $1620 - 3-Year Warranty (1st Year On-Site, next 2 years Carry In) ** VALUEPOINT SPACESAVER SYSTEMS ** EQUIV SLOT/ OPEN INCL MODEL PROC-MHZ COND MODEL MEM HD GRAPH BIT BAY S PRICE -------- -------- ---- --- --- ----- ----- ---- --- --- ----- 6382-F00 486SX-25 NEW - 4MB NONE SVGA 3-16 2 N $ 479= NEW 6381-F30 486SX-25 NEW - 4MB 120MB SVGA 3-16 1 D/W $ 665 ** VALUEPOINT DESKTOP SYSTEMS ** EQUIV SLOT/ OPEN INCL MODEL PROC-MHZ COND MODEL MEM HD GRAPH BIT BAY S PRICE -------- -------- ---- --- --- ----- ----- ---- --- --- ----- 6384-E1B 486SX-33 RFRB L40 4MB 170MB SVGA 5-16 3 O2 $ 725 6384-E04 486DX2-66 RFRB W00 4MB NONE SVGA 5-16 4 N $ 899= NEW 6387-X00 486DX2-66 NEW - 4MB NONE SVGA 5-16 4 N $ 995= NEW 6384-W00 486DX2-66 RFRB - 4MB NONE SVGA 5-16 4 N $ 999= NEW 6384-E1Z PENT-60 RFRB 199 16MB 527MB SVGA 4-16 3 N $2899= NEW ( NOTE : VALUEPOINT SYSTEMS DO NOT INCLUDE A MONITOR ) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ** PS/2 DESKTOP SYSTEMS *** EQUIV SLOT/ OPEN INCL MODEL PROC-MHZ COND MODEL MEM HD GRAPH BIT BAY S PRICE -------- -------- ---- --- --- ----- ----- ---- --- --- ----- 9553-4Y1 486SLC2-50 RFRB 0B7 4MB 120MB SVGA 3-16 1 D/W $ 495 9556-4Y4 486SLC2-50 RFRB 2BX 4MB T/R XGA-2 2-16 3 N $ 539 9556-4YB 486SLC2-50 RFRB 0B6 8MB 104MB XGA-2 3-16 1 O2 $ 619 9556-4Y8 486SLC2-50 RFRB DB6 8MB 104MB XGA-2 3-16 1 D/W $ 779= NEW 9557-4Y5 486SLC2-50 RFRB DBA 8MB 208MB XGA-2 5-16 2 D/W $ 845 9556-4Y7 486SLC2-50 RFRB DBA 8MB 208MB XGA-2 3-16 1 D/W $ 869 9576-4Y3 486SX-33 RFRB DUA 8MB 208MB XGA-2 2-32 1 D/W $1149 9577-4Y9 486SX-33 RFRB DUA 8MB 208MB XGA-2 4-32 2 D/W $1249 9556-4YH 486SLC3-75 RFRB DED 8MB 340MB XGA-2 3-16 1 D/W $1289 9577-4Y7 486DX2-66 RFRB DNA 8MB 208MB XGA-2 4-32 2 D/W $1399 9557-4YM 486SLC3-75 RFRB DEG 8MB 540MB XGA-2 5-16 3 D/W $1489 9556-4YC 486SLC2-50 RFRB 0BA 8MB 212MB XGA-2 3-16 1 O2 $1725= NEW 9576-4YA 486DX4-100 RFRB ATB 8MB 270MB SVGA 3-16 1 D/W $1949 - ALL THE PS/2 SYSTEMS LISTED ABOVE ARE MICROCHANNEL ARCHITECTURE. - OPERATING SYSTEMS ARE NOT PRE-LOADED, THE DISKETTES WILL SHIP IN A SEPERATE BOX. - THESE SYSTEMS INCLUDE A 3-YEAR ON-SITE WARRANTY. - MONITOR IS NOT INCLUDED. SEE OUR MONITOR SELECTION BELOW !!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- ******** M O B I L E S ******** ** REFURBISHED THINKPAD 755 MODELS ** MODEL PROC/MHZ COND MEM HD SCREEN/TYPE ORIG MODEL PRICE -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9545-4YJ 486DX2-50 RFRB 4MB 170MB 9.5"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 755CS $1899= $$$ 9545-4YK 486DX2-50 RFRB 4MB 340MB 9.5"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 755CS $2249= $$$ 9545-4YL 486DX2-50 RFRB 4MB 540MB 9.5"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 755CS $2549= $$$ 9545-4YM 486DX4-75 RFRB 4MB 170MB 9.5"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 755CS $2399= $$$ 9545-4YR 486DX2-50 RFRB 4MB 170MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755C $2565= $$$ 9545-4YS 486DX2-50 RFRB 4MB 340MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755C $2879= $$$ 9545-4YT 486DX2-50 RFRB 4MB 540MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755C $3149= $$$ 9545-4YU 486DX4-75 RFRB 4MB 170MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755C $2999= $$$ 9545-4YV 486DX4-75 RFRB 4MB 340MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755C $3345= $$$ 9545-4YW 486DX4-75 RFRB 4MB 540MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755C $3649= $$$ ** REFURBISHED THINKPAD 755 ENHANCED MODELS ** MODEL PROC/MHZ COND MEM HD SCREEN/TYPE ORIG MODEL = PRICE ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- 9545-4Z9 486DX4-100 RFRB 8MB 540MB 10.4"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 755CSE = $3855 9545-4ZB 486DX4-100 RFRB 8MB 340MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755CE = $4369 9545-4ZC 486DX4-100 RFRB 8MB 540MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755CE = $4675 9545-4ZD 486DX4-100 RFRB 8MB 810MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 755CE = $5065 - ALL THINKPAD 755 MODELS INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING PRE-INSTALLED SOFTWARE - IBM PC DOS 6.3 - Microsoft Windows 3.1 - LOTUS Organizer V1.12 - LOTUS ScreenCam V1.0 - Prodigy - LOTUS cc:Mail - Official Airline Guide - OAG Flight Disk=7F - THINKPAD 755 ENHANCED MODELS ALSO INCLUDE A 14.4 DATA/FAX MODEM !! (ASK YOUR FACTORY OUTLET REPRESENTATIVE FOR MORE EXCITING DETAILS ABOUT ALL THE THINKPAD 755 MODELS !!!) ** THINKPAD 350, PS/NOTE AND THINKPAD 750 MODELS ** NEW MODELS MODEL PROC/MHZ COND MEM HD SCREEN/TYPE ORIG MODEL PRICE -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2618-P0A 486SL-25 NEW 4MB 250MB 9.2"/VGA/COLOR THINKPAD 350C $1699 9545-306 486SL-33 NEW 4MB 170MB 10.4"/TFT/COLOR THINKPAD 750C $2999 REFURBISHED MODELS MODEL PROC/MHZ COND MEM HD SCREEN/TYPE ORIG MODEL PRICE -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2615-4Y1 386SL-25 RFRB 4MB 80MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 300 $ 499= NEW 2615-4Y2 386SL-25 RFRB 4MB 120MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 300 $ 619= NEW 2618-4Y6 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 85MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD PS/NOTE E35 $ 649= NEW 2618-4Y7 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 125MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD PS/NOTE M40 $ 799= NEW 2618-4Y1 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 125MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 350 $ 829 2603-4Y4 486SLC2-50 RFRB 4MB 170MB 7.4"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 500 $ 899= NEW 2618-4Y3 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 250MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 350 $ 949= NEW 2610-4Y1 486SLC2-50 RFRB 4MB 125MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 340 $ 999= NEW 2618-4Y5 486SL-25 RFRB 4MB 125MB 9.2"/VGA/COLOR PS/NOTE C45 $1269 9552-4Y5 486SLC2-50 RFRB 4MB 160MB 9.5"/VGA/LCD THINKPAD 720 $1445= NEW - - - - - - - - - ** IBM MONITORS * EQUIV MAXIMUM DOT MODEL COND MODEL TYPE VSS* RESOLUTN PITCH GRAPHICS PRICE --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6314-01J RFRB 6314011 14" COLOR 12.0 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 279 6312-001 NEW - 14" COLOR 11.8 1024X 768 .28 SVGA $ 299 6324-00J RFRB 6324001 14" COLOR 13.1 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 299= NEW 6314-001 NEW - 14" COLOR 12.0 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 329 6314-011 NEW - 14" COLOR 12.0 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 329 8514-001 NEW - 16" COLOR 13.9 1024X 768 .31 XGA-2 $ 379= NEW 5179328 RFRB 73G3241 15" COLOR 13.5 1024X 768 .28 SVGA $ 389 9524-00J RFRB 9524001 14" COLOR 13.0 1024x 768 .28 SVGA $ 529= NEW 9525-00J RFRB 9525001 15" COLOR 13.7 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 605 9525-B0J RFRB 9525001 15" COLOR 13.7 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 605 6317-M0J RFRB 6317M01 17" COLOR 14.7 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 699= NEW 9517-00J RFRB 9517001 17" COLOR 14.7 1360x1024 .26 XGA-2 $ 925 9524-T0J RFRB 9524T01 14" TOUCH 13.0 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $ 949 9525-T0J RFRB 9525T01 15" TOUCH 13.7 1280X1024 .28 SVGA $1049 9527-00J RFRB 9527001 17" COLOR 15.4 1360X1024 .26 SVGA $1049= NEW 9527-T2J RFRB 9527T21 17" TOUCH 15.4 1360X1024 .26 SVGA $1949 9521-T0J RFRB 9521T01 21" TOUCH 19.1 1600X1200 .31 SVGA $2545 * Maximum Diagonal Viewable Screen size in Inches. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTE: DESCRIPTIONS ARE CONDENSED, ALWAYS CONFIRM APPLICATION OF FEATURES AND OPTIONS WITH YOUR IBM PC FACTORY OUTLET MARKETING REPRESENTATIVE. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ **LEGEND** RFRB =3D REFURBISHED S =3D SOFTWARE N =3D NO D =3D DOS 5.02 W =3D DOS 5.02 AND WIN 3.1 O2 =3D OS/2 PRELOADED D/W =3D DOS 6.0 AND WIN 3.1 E/NET =3D Ethernet Card T/R =3D Token-Ring TFT =3D ACTIVE MATRIX $$$ =3D PRICE REDUCTION NEW =3D NEW TO THE LIST SINCE LAST UPDATE --------------------------------------------------------------------------- **ANYONE CAN OBTAIN THIS PRICE LIST VIA FAX 24 HRS A DAY! JUST: 1. CALL 1-800-426-3395 2. PRESS OPTION #1 (END-USER) 3. PRESS OPTION #1 4. PRESS OPTION #1 AGAIN TO ENTER YOUR DOCUMENT # 5. ENTER 3001 AND THE # KEY WHEN ASKED FOR DOCUMENT NUMBER. 6. Follow voice instructions. **TO ORDER LITERATURE ON THE ABOVE SYSTEMS, USE OUR AUTOMATED FAX SYSTEM **THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS: 1. CALL 1-800-426-3395. 2. PRESS OPTION #1 (END-USER). 3. PRESS OPTION #1 4. PRESS OPTION #1 AGAIN TO ENTER YOUR DOCUMENT # 5. SELECT FAXBACK DOCUMENT # FROM BELOW (UP TO 5) 6. FOLLOW VOICE INSTRUCTIONS. Doc.# Part# Model / Description Pages --------------------------------------------------------------- 11637 9545-XXX TPAD 755C/755CS/755CSE 4 11101 2604-4Y4 THINKPAD 510CS BROCHURE 3 11099 6472-XXX ValuePoint Performance 6 60043 9545-xxx THINKPAD 755 OVERVIEW 1 11008 6381-XXX ValuePoint Si Models 4 11427 9545-XXX THINKPAD 750 OVERVIEW 1 11365 9545-XXX THINKPAD 750 BROCHURE 10 11377 2603-XXX THINKPAD 500 BROCHURE 5 60039 6384-XXX Valuepoint Fall 93 Models 1 60041 6381-XXX Valuepoint Si Models 1 60031 OS/2 2.1 OS/2 2.1 Compared to Win3.1 1 18520 2133-18T PS/1 Standard Features 1 18522 2155-24C " 1 18672 2155-50T " 1 18534 2155-52C " 1 18674 2155-74T " 1 18543 2155-76C " 1 18547 2155-84T " 1 18678 2168-31E " 1 18679 2168-33T " 1 18681 2168-51E " 1 18680 2168-54T " 1 Please NOTE: All software promotional offerings and/or references to ordering the PS/1 Software Showcase on the above PS/1 FAXBACK Documents have expired. ****************************************************************************= * |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D|=20 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 08:35:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09328; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:35:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04879; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:29:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:29:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04859; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:29:10 -0400 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (koriel.Sun.COM) id AA03452; Thu, 20 Apr 95 05:29:00 PDT Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA24867; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 05:28:56 -0700 Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA21574; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 05:28:57 +0800 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19732; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 05:29:20 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 05:29:20 -0700 From: cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9504201229.AA19732@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: PCCHAN@POMONA.EDU, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU adlib sound only works on tp755cE models with the Mwave chip. 750C and 755C (or Cs) users don't get sound with doom. This is because you can't emulate the soundblaster when the application goes into proteted mod and the original sound chip is not "register" compatible with the SB. The MWave chip _is_ compatible. --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 08:48:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12071; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:48:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05577; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:39:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:39:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05567; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:39:27 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA10570; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:39:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:39:57 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504201239.AA10570@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: PCCHAN@POMONA.EDU, cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU stop telling me I don't get sound with Doom on a 755C. I am running the original shareware episode on my 755C in a DOS full window with full sound. Chuck, if you want to come by my apartment sometime, you can listen to my 755C Dooming around :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 09:33:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18014; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:33:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09436; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:23:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:23:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09421; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:23:52 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA19663; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:23:48 -0500 Message-Id: <9504201323.AA19663@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:24:44 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? On Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:39:57 -0400 you wrote: >stop telling me I don't get sound with Doom on a 755C. I am running the >original shareware episode on my 755C in a DOS full window with full >sound. I've got a TP750. 1) I've never gotten Doom's sound (digital or music) working under DOS. 2) I've gotten Doom's music to work in an OS/2 DOS box. Digital sound is PC-speaker only because ... 3) Doom's digital audio routines are broken -- it doesn't work on virtually all OS/2 machines, and in some DOS machines. Has anyone looked into a possible relationship between this and the sound problems Doom has on the TP? Or are they unrelated? 3a) Doom's digital audio worked under OS/2 back with version 1.1 and 1.2. Has anyone tried these older versions on the TP? _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 09:35:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18156; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:35:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09373; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:23:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:23:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from qrz.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09363; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:23:00 -0400 Received: (from flloyd@localhost) by qrz.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id GAA10247 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 06:22:33 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 06:22:33 -0700 From: Fred Lloyd Message-Id: <199504201322.GAA10247@qrz.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: DC Power Adaptor ? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Is there a DC power adaptor for the TP-750 so that you can operate it on your auto or RV 12V supply? Also, I have the IBM PCMCIA 14.4 data/fax modem for sale. $150 -fred From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 10:01:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21453; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:01:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12144; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:50:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:50:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12122; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:50:44 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA11024; Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:51:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 09:51:30 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504201351.AA11024@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jokim@mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? i never tried on my 750C, only on my 755C, so I can't say anything from experience about the 750C, but on the 755C, Doom works fine with full sound (the only reason I keep repeating this is to make clear that this is based not on guesswork, but my ears :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 10:26:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26663; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:26:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13879; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:12:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:12:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13869; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:12:01 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA10445 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:11:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:11:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199504201411.JAA10445@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: Re: windows 3.11 >i know this is slightly off topic but someone mentioned that they downloaded the windows 3.11 for workgroups upgrade from microsoft. i have a tp755 that came >with win 3.1 and i was wondering if anyone knew where i could get 3.11 > >thanks in advace > >paul > Note that win 3.11 is _not_ windows for workgroups. win 3.11 is just like win 3.1 ; it simply has some bug fixes and updated drivers. windows for workgroups has many more fundamental changes, most notable is its client to client networking (i.e. 'disk sharing'). you can download the win 3.1 to win 3.11 upgrade for free via anonymous ftp to ftp.microsoft.com. look in the 'persops' directory, or something like that (persops=personal operating systems). it wasn't hard to find. -Todd --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 10:54:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29841; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:54:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15735; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:37:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:37:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gsfc.nasa.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15723; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:37:14 -0400 Received: from neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov by gsfc.nasa.gov (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA02943; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:37:06 -0400 Received: from isobar by neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov via SMTP (950215.SGI.8.6.10/920502.SGI) id KAA29511; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:41:52 -0400 Message-Id: <199504201441.KAA29511@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: kirk@neptune X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:41:44 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kirk@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert Kirk) Subject: Re: DC Power Adaptor ? Cc: Fred Lloyd At 06:22 4/20/95 -0700, Fred Lloyd wrote: > >Is there a DC power adaptor for the TP-750 so that you >can operate it on your auto or RV 12V supply? > >Also, I have the IBM PCMCIA 14.4 data/fax modem for sale. $150 > >-fred > Easiest way is to use a dc inverter from your cigarette lighter. Radio Shack and others sell them. An added benefit is that you can use it to power other ac gear in the car, too. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 10:57:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00231; Thu, 20 Apr 95 10:57:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16649; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:47:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:47:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rip.psg.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16636; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:47:41 -0400 Received: by rip.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s1xW5-00030IC; Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:47 PDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 07:47 PDT From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: OS/2 Excuse the neophyte question. I am a BSDoid, and know I can run BSDI on the 755. But my Father is considering one, and he is an OS/2 user. Does the 755C run Warp with full support of color, PCMCIA, the woiks? randy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 11:35:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06015; Thu, 20 Apr 95 11:35:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19563; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:22:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:22:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19551; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:22:00 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA11994; Thu, 20 Apr 95 11:22:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 11:22:44 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504201522.AA11994@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: randy@psg.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp runs very nicely on the 755C, no problem with color, PCMCIA, sound on my machine. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 12:00:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10389; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:00:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21822; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:44:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:44:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21804; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:43:56 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144278>; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:43:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: Robert Dewar's message as of Apr 20, 11:39am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 Message-Id: <95Apr20.114338edt.144278@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:43:24 -0400 On Apr 20, 11:39am, Robert Dewar wrote: } Subject: Re: OS/2 } Warp runs very nicely on the 755C, no problem with color, PCMCIA, sound } on my machine. I couldn't find a driver supporting 64K colours on the LCD screen. Did I miss it? Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 12:24:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12372; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:24:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23615; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:06:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:06:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23603; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:06:40 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA12438; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:06:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:06:55 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504201606.AA12438@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: elf@dgp.toronto.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 i have 256 colors, I didn't even know 755c supported 64K colors, but it would not be of interest to me in any case. are you sure it does (support 64K colors). If so, NEC's ads are bogus ... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 14:06:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28647; Thu, 20 Apr 95 14:06:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02057; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:48:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:48:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02036; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:48:07 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id NAA25891; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:51:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:51:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Fred Lloyd Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: DC Power Adaptor ? In-Reply-To: <199504201322.GAA10247@qrz.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 20 Apr 1995, Fred Lloyd wrote: > Is there a DC power adaptor for the TP-750 so that you > can operate it on your auto or RV 12V supply? Yep, and I have one. Wired a special cig lighter plug under my seat (geek!) and it is just always there. When I've been using the battery all day and am driving from one place to another, I plug it into my 'pad. Doesn't get a whole lot of use, probably wasn't worth the ~$150 I paid for it, but what the hell, the 'pad itself was a buttload of money anyways. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 16:01:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15204; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:01:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10719; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:46:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:46:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10706; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:46:26 -0400 From: Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.6)/1.0) id AA0047; Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:45:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 15:45:57 -0400 Message-Id: <9504201945.AA0047@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Cc: elf@dgp.toronto.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:06:55 -0400 from dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Subject: OS/2 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:06:55 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) i have 256 colors, I didn't even know 755c supported 64K colors, but it would not be of interest to me in any case. are you sure it does (support 64K colors). If so, NEC's ads are bogus ... The 755C supports 64k colors on an external monitor at 640x480 resolution. I haven't tried this, but I believe the Warp drivers support it. On the other hand, I can't imagine wanting to run 640x480 on an external monitor -- the only reason I have such a monitor is to run higher resolutions. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 16:20:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17658; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:20:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11945; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:00:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:00:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11917; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:59:57 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA14543; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:00:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:00:39 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504202000.AA14543@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 Cc: elf@dgp.toronto.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU "The 755C supports 64k colors on an external monitor at 640x480 resolution. I haven't tried this, but I believe the Warp drivers support it. On the other hand, I can't imagine wanting to run 640x480 on an external monitor -- the only reason I have such a monitor is to run higher resolutions." for photo stuff, more colors is more important than higher resolution, certainly the jump from 8-bits to 16-bits is critical. 8-bits is VERY limiting. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 16:23:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18117; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:23:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12535; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:06:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:06:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12524; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:06:15 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25309; Thu, 20 Apr 95 13:03:11 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id NAA06900; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:01:57 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9504201301.ZM6898@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:01:56 -0700 In-Reply-To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) "Re: Parallel port sound card?" (Apr 19, 10:35pm) References: <9504200235.AA25967@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? Cc: PCCHAN@POMONA.EDU, cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 20, 5:29am, Chuck McManis wrote: > Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? > >adlib sound only works on tp755cE models with the Mwave chip. 750C and >755C (or Cs) users don't get sound with doom. This is because you can't >emulate the soundblaster when the application goes into proteted mod and >the original sound chip is not "register" compatible with the SB. The >MWave chip _is_ compatible. On April 20, 8:39am, Robert Dewar wrote: > Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? > >stop telling me I don't get sound with Doom on a 755C. I am running the >original shareware episode on my 755C in a DOS full window with full >sound. > >Chuck, if you want to come by my apartment sometime, you can listen to my >755C Dooming around :-) Sorry for our cynicism Robert, but getting sound to work on Doom has been a holy grail for this group for a long time. :) The first question that came to my mind was whether you had a 755C or a 755CE. Chuck is correct about the sound chip on the 750/755C's being fundamentally incompatible with the SoundBlaster, so sound does not work on Doom on those machines, because they require a SB emulation TSR which only runs in real-mode, and Doom runs in protected mode. My next question was if you had ever heard Doom running on a desktop PC? In other words, are you getting stereo sound effects and especially music on your ThinkPad running Doom? On Apr 19, 10:35pm, Robert Dewar wrote: > Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? > > yup works just fine, been dooming away with sound on my TP755 for a while > using adlib as the sound selection. I've brought up the Doom setup utility on my latop, and under the "Select Sound FX Device" menu, there are five choices, but the Adlib is *NOT* one of them: UltraSound, Pro Audio Spectrum, Sound Blaster, PC Speaker, NONE. If you select one of the sound cards offered, you run into the other serious incompatibility with the ThinkPad's sound chip -- most sound cards want to use IO port 220, interrupt 5 for sound -- the ThinkPad uses IO port 30, interrupt 10. These can be reset, but I'm sure you would have mentioned by now if you needed to to this. My last question is which version of Doom are you running? When you first boot the game, it will mention something about the Doom operating system number. Perhaps Id Software finally added sound support for the ThinkPads in a recent release or patch? Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 16:30:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19253; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:30:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12864; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:10:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:10:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12847; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:10:16 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA14703; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:08:35 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:08:35 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504202008.AA14703@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: george@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? Cc: PCCHAN@POMONA.EDU, cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU I will investigate exactly what I see, and report back, right now, something is screwed up and doom won't run at all, never mind sound sign! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 16:47:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21473; Thu, 20 Apr 95 16:47:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07682; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:12:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:12:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07669; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:12:41 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144278>; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:11:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: Robert Dewar's message as of Apr 20, 12:33pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 Message-Id: <95Apr20.151158edt.144278@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 15:11:53 -0400 On Apr 20, 12:33pm, Robert Dewar wrote: } i have 256 colors, I didn't even know 755c supported 64K colors, but it } would not be of interest to me in any case. } are you sure it does (support 64K colors). If so, NEC's ads are bogus ... I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. The CE and CD support 16-bit colour while the "unenhanced" 755's are 8-bit. Eugene. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 17:13:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26670; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:13:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17037; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:57:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:57:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fosters.roc.servtech.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17025; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 16:57:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:01:28 EST Message-Id: <9504201701.AA24460@fosters.roc.servtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Randall King" Reply-To: To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 X-Mailer: In reply to: > >On Apr 20, 12:33pm, Robert Dewar wrote: >} i have 256 colors, I didn't even know 755c supported 64K colors, but >}it >} would not be of interest to me in any case. >} are you sure it does (support 64K colors). If so, NEC's ads are >bogus ... >} >I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. The CE and CD support 16-bit colour while >the "unenhanced" 755's are 8-bit. > >Eugene. This is off of the subject just a little, but are the TP 360's only 16 color, or can they go to 256? RK From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 17:43:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28492; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:43:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18034; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:11:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:11:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18021; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:11:19 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144031>; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:11:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: Eugene Fiume's message as of Apr 20, 4:48pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 Message-Id: <95Apr20.171108edt.144031@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:11:00 -0400 On Apr 20, 4:48pm, I wrote: } I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. The CE and CD support 16-bit colour while } the "unenhanced" 755's are 8-bit. } ...and once again I'm not being clear, because what I'm talking about is the main display, not the external display. Eugene. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 17:54:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29065; Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:54:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19365; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:28:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:28:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19355; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:28:37 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id RAA13173; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:25:19 -0400 Message-Id: <199504202125.RAA13173@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 19 Apr 1995 15:40:10 CDT." <199504192040.PAA01482@mtvernon1.basenet.net> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:25:13 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > Several of you have asked me about the IBM PC Factory Outlet. I just > requested their latest offering list. They told me that would be OK by them > if I put the list out to you. There is a lot more than just laptops. Especially since it's not ThinkPad-oriented, I don't think it's appropriate to post it here. Do they have a web server? If so, you could post their URL here. (If they don't have a web server they should get one!) Or maybe you could make their offering list available on an FTP server, and send us the URL for *that*. Otherwise, maybe people who are interested could let you know by private email, and you could send it to just those who are interested. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 19:27:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12032; Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:27:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24655; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:44:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:44:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24645; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:43:59 -0400 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA11319; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:43:24 -0500 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA11525; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:43:29 -0500 From: rol@uhc.com (Roleigh Martin) Message-Id: <9504202243.AA11525@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet To: moore@CS.UTK.EDU (Keith Moore) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:43:29 -0500 (CDT) Cc: krisdw@basenet.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199504202125.RAA13173@wilma.cs.utk.edu> from "Keith Moore" at Apr 20, 95 05:25:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry to disagree. There was a huge portion of that list that was dedicated to refurbished Thinkpads. I for one really appreciated seeing the list and I could not think of a more appropriate list for it to be disseminated on. > > > Several of you have asked me about the IBM PC Factory Outlet. I just > > requested their latest offering list. They told me that would be OK by them > > if I put the list out to you. There is a lot more than just laptops. > > Especially since it's not ThinkPad-oriented, I don't think it's > appropriate to post it here. > > Do they have a web server? If so, you could post their URL here. > (If they don't have a web server they should get one!) > > Or maybe you could make their offering list available on an FTP > server, and send us the URL for *that*. > > Otherwise, maybe people who are interested could let you know by > private email, and you could send it to just those who are interested. > > Keith > > -- Roleigh Martin, Rt. MN06-6130 Opinions are mine not UHC | UHC, Advanced Technology AT&T/vmail: (612) 945-6529| 9705 Data Park Drive FAX: (612) 945-6502| Minnetonka, MN 55343 Email: rol@lochness.uhc.com| ** B'days are good for health ** Statistics show that people with most b'days live the longest When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 19:31:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12505; Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:31:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25976; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:09:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:09:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25965; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:09:35 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id TAA13271; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:06:16 -0400 Message-Id: <199504202306.TAA13271@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: rol@uhc.com (Roleigh Martin) Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU (Keith Moore), krisdw@basenet.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: [ADMIN] Re: PC Factory Outlet In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 20 Apr 1995 17:43:29 CDT." <9504202243.AA11525@lochness.uhc.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:06:10 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > > Especially since it's not ThinkPad-oriented, I don't think it's > > appropriate to post it here. > Sorry to disagree. There was a huge portion of that list that was > dedicated to refurbished Thinkpads. I for one really appreciated > seeing the list and I could not think of a more appropriate list > for it to be disseminated on. My original comments were based on Kris's "do you think this is appropriate" post, since I hadn't seen the actual post containing the price list yet. However, on reading the price list, I am firmly opposed to having it posted here periodically. The same would be true for any other price lists. Many list members pay for their incoming email, and several have complained about the volume of messages on this list. We therefore need to keep our postings brief and on-topic. Just because there is not another good place to post such information, does not mean that it is reasonable to post it here. Again, I'd certainly encourage posting *pointers* to such information to the list and/or in the FAQ file. Keith Moore p.s. It is not my intention to slam Kris for posting the list once. I just want to clearly state that it should not be posted periodically. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 19:47:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14590; Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:47:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27538; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:38:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:38:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27528; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:38:28 -0400 Received: from tonto-slip1.cis.brown.edu (tonto-slip1.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.21]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id TAA13730 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:40:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199504202340.TAA13730@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:37:38 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: FullPak on 750C Has anyone had any problem with FullPak on 750C? I mean screen/video problem. My screen corrupts all the time, which requires a reboot. It happens very often when the modem is dialing. <<<<<<<<<< WAI-SHAN LAM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail to: <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OR <<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<72124.2644@CompuServe.Com>>>>>>>>> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 20:09:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17148; Thu, 20 Apr 95 20:09:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28093; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:48:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:48:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28082; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:48:03 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA18347; Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:48:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:48:48 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504202348.AA18347@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: moore@CS.UTK.EDU, rol@uhc.com Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Re: PC Factory Outlet Cc: krisdw@basenet.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU I am firmly opposed to having to read objections to having the list posted, and if I had to pay for incoming email, I would really be opposed. Let's have this posted reguarly. If you don't like it delete it, or set your mailer to dump it immediately. I actually find the factory list the most useful email I have received from the tp750 list. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 20:11:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17812; Thu, 20 Apr 95 20:11:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28703; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:57:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:57:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28692; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:57:02 -0400 Received: from DialupEudora (ts1.noc.drexel.edu [129.25.12.13]) by dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (8.6.11/8.6.4) with SMTP id TAA29146 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:56:40 -0400 X-Sender: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 19:08:59 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mark Bell) Subject: Xircom update (CEM10BT) It seems that Xircom has, thankfully, decided to do away with their proprietary MAPI interface in their Ethernet + Modem card and rewrote the firmware where the card now basically emulates a UART like a Megahertz modem card. This also means they did away with their horrendous redirector that was needed to get the card up and running. The good news is that the modem seems to work flawlessly in DOS and Windows. The bad news is it is still impossible to get the Ethernet side of the equation working. I upgraded the card on a friend's Aero to 2.15 (The newest driver level), and suddenly , my 755C had no problems recognizing the card at last. Xircom has an update bulletin pertaining to this card you can also have faxed back to you. Of course in the memo, Xircom says they are still having problems with Card and Services (You have to disable them to get the card to work as of this moment), and problems still persist with a few models of the 755 and 360 Thinkpads. ........Hapless victim of Information Overload Syndrome (IOS)....... * Mark Bell * 800 College Drive #104 * Vineland, NJ 08360 * 1-609-327-4029 *