From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 02:07:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00032; Mon, 1 Apr 96 02:07:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02936; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:03:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:02:16 -0500 Received: from lynx.msc.cornell.edu (LYNX.MSC.CORNELL.EDU [128.84.231.190]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02830; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:02:13 -0500 Received: from skeeve.msc.cornell.edu (SKEEVE.MSC.CORNELL.EDU [128.253.229.90]) by lynx.msc.cornell.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA21718; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:02:01 -0500 From: John Joowon Lee Received: by skeeve.msc.cornell.edu id HAA20303 (8.6.12/Cornell-MSC-IDA-client for msc.cornell.edu); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:02:00 GMT Reply-To: jjl9@msc.cornell.edu Message-Id: <199604010702.HAA20303@skeeve.msc.cornell.edu> X-Originated-From: skeeve.msc.cornell.edu X-Msc-Version: IDA Client - AIX Subject: new member To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:02:00 -0500 (EST) Cc: jjl9@lynx.msc.cornell.edu (John Joowon Lee) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I've owned my ThinkPad 755C for about half a year now, but I've only recently discovered this mailing list. As suggested by the welcome-email from the mailing list, I introduce my machine. It has a DX4 processor, 20MB of RAM (Kensington) and a 340MB hard-drive. Most of the drive is dedicated for use with Linux 1.2.8 and portions of Slackware 2.3. The remainder of the drive is partitioned for DOS 6.x and Windows 3.11. I'm primarily a user of flavors of UNIX and I've been quite happy with Linux. I've noticed that about every 50 hours of uptime, however, that Linux continuously accesses the hard-drive for several minutes; except for olvwm and xterm, there is no correlation with running applications. I haven't yet figured out what processes are involved. I am naive with UNIX system administration; if someone should have an idea about what Linux is doing, I would like to be educated. I recently considered purchasing another hard-drive. I provide some brief commentary for the possible benefit of others of the mailing list who have been mentioning hard-drive issues. An article in PC Magazine, in August of 1995, noted that IBM substantially raises prices on peripheral components for machines sometime shortly after production of the machines ceases. I've verified the after-effects on prices for hard-drives for pre-755 ThinkPads in vendors' advertisements (about a %50 premium per MB of disk). The supply of new 755 ThinkPads has recently been discontinued, so I considered getting an extra drive for my future storage needs. Others looking for reasonable prices on hard-drives may wish to confer the FAQ for this mailing list for information on a third-party vendor (an IBM supplier) which has arranged a discount for members of this mailing list (cf. ftp://swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu/archive/thinkpad/faq/ and search for 'third-party'). I've also noticed another company advertise the installation of Toshiba 2.5" hard-drives into ThinkPad-compatible caddies (http://warrior.com/lock/tl750.html) at prices which are competitive. Finally, the archives for this mailing list from the last year contain some discussions about other experiences in installing third-party 2.5" hard-drives, including one person who couldn't get his third-party drive to spin-down in suspend-mode (cf. the welcome-email to this mailing list for a URL). Ultimately, I decided that as the need arises, I will just purchase a removable-medium device like Iomega's JAZ drive (an external box), which for about $725 provides 1GB of storage with disk access speeds which are faster than my ThinkPad's hard-drive (about 5MBps). This month's BYTE magazine discusses the JAZ drive. John Lee jjl9@cornell.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 02:54:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02563; Mon, 1 Apr 96 02:54:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06212; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:50:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:46:37 -0500 Received: from lynx.msc.cornell.edu (LYNX.MSC.CORNELL.EDU [128.84.231.190]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05880; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:46:34 -0500 Received: from skeeve.msc.cornell.edu (SKEEVE.MSC.CORNELL.EDU [128.253.229.90]) by lynx.msc.cornell.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA21996 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:46:30 -0500 From: John Joowon Lee Received: by skeeve.msc.cornell.edu id HAA35560 (8.6.12/Cornell-MSC-IDA-client for msc.cornell.edu); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:46:30 GMT Reply-To: jjl9@msc.cornell.edu Message-Id: <199604010746.HAA35560@skeeve.msc.cornell.edu> X-Originated-From: skeeve.msc.cornell.edu X-Msc-Version: IDA Client - AIX Subject: MS apps on Solaris x86 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:46:29 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I recall that Steve Hurl* expressed, not long ago, that it would be useful to run MS Office on Linux. I thought I might point out that SunSoft of Sun Microsystems has Solaris 2.5 available for the *86 architecture; Solaris can run WABI, which is capable of running quite a number of Windows applications, but only those developed for Windows 3.*. For a URL with information, goto http://www.yahoo.com and search for 'Solaris'. BYTE magazine had a review of WABI in the summer of 1995, encouragingly entitled 'A Less Wobbly WABI'. (I have no affiliation with Sun.) John Lee jjl9@cornell.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 07:24:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12737; Mon, 1 Apr 96 07:24:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06179; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:24:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:20:40 -0500 Received: from thud.cs.utk.edu (THUD.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.228]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06009; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:20:37 -0500 From: Vaidy Sunderam Received: by thud.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id HAA10866; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:20:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:20:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199604011220.HAA10866@thud.cs.utk.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Charging 701C when powered off? Hi, When I plug my 701C to the ac adapter, it wseems to charge the battery only when the computer is powered on. Has anyone encountered this or know how to fix it? Thanks Vaidy Sunderam From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 08:46:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16006; Mon, 1 Apr 96 08:46:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13633; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 08:45:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 08:43:31 -0500 Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13327; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 08:43:26 -0500 From: Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:17/EUnetD-2.5.3.f) via EUnet id PAA07872; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:43:15 +0200 Received: from runner.prz.tu-berlin.de (runner.prz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.62.2]) by tubkom.prz.tu-berlin.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA22801 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:42:17 +0200 Message-Id: <199604011342.PAA22801@tubkom.prz.tu-berlin.de> Received: by runner.prz.tu-berlin.de (1.37.109.4/15.6) id AA13073; Mon, 1 Apr 96 15:42:55 +0200 Subject: Installing from Harddisk To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:42:55 +0200 (MESZ) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I'm very happy that I can install from PCMCIA-SCSI-CDROM (with minor changes to the config.sys during install)! But ... a copy of my preinstalled system is on harddisk, not on cdrom, and I don't want to built disketts and install from these. How can I tell the installprogram to access my harddisk (pcmcia scsi, e:/755cx/disketts/os2v3/)? Thanks for your help! Gruss Michael --------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Michael Eyrich Technische Universitaet Berlin, Deutschland * * michey@{cs,prz}.tu-berlin.de Fachbereich Informatik (13) * * Tel: 030 / 314 26 713 He 104 (Galerie) Prozessrechenzentrum TU Berlin * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 08:59:28 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16366; Mon, 1 Apr 96 08:59:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15415; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 08:58:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 08:57:52 -0500 Received: from internet.fultech.com (gateway.fultech.com [198.53.216.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15217; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 08:57:44 -0500 Received: from wayne.fultech.com (wayne.fultech.com [172.16.10.17]) by internet with SMTP (DuhMail/2.0) id IAA23693; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 08:54:42 -0500 Received: from msx01.fultech.com by wayne.fultech.com (4.1/) id AA07014; Mon, 1 Apr 96 08:57:24 EST Received: by msx01.fultech.com with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BB1FA9.3BF1B150@msx01.fultech.com>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 08:57:19 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Scott.Newman" To: "'THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: ADMIN: Another mailing list suggestion Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 08:57:18 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 Encoding: 46 TEXT I have been trying to automatically process incoming posts from this mailing list, as well. Due to the way in which my gateway/mail software (MS Exchange) works, I continue to grow my list of possible 'To' addresses that could be used for this list. Unfortunately, I think that I am seeing any aliases people have defined for this list. After two weeks, I have accumulated the following list of addresses: tp750@cs.utk.edu Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu "Thinkpad List" tp750 "ThinkPad mailing list" thinkpad Using this list, I have been able to catch all posts on this list in the last five days or so. However, I expect it will have to grow. I think it would be great if posts from this list came through with a single 'To' address, but I haven't looked into it enough to confirm that the problem isn't somewhere at my end of the food chain. Scott Newman >---------- >From: billy@mix.com[SMTP:billy@mix.com] >Sent: March 29, 1996 3:06 PM >To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Re: ADMIN: Another mailing list suggestion > >> Many mailing lists to which I belong manipulate the SMTP (or whatever) >> header information so that the From: information is shown to be the >> mailing list itself, instead of the individual person sending the message. > >I strongly object to this, if only becuase I prefer to see who sent >what, >but it makes a real mess out of many other things too. Better to get >some >software that can look at who it's TO, not FROM. For instance, here is >the >header from what you sent - > >> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > >Billy Y.. > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 09:18:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16921; Mon, 1 Apr 96 09:18:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19448; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:17:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:17:14 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (jokim@TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19253; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:17:09 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA12307; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:16:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:16:00 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Vaidy Sunderam Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? In-Reply-To: <199604011220.HAA10866@thud.cs.utk.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Vaidy Sunderam wrote: > When I plug my 701C to the ac adapter, it seems to charge > the battery only when the computer is powered on. Has anyone > encountered this or know how to fix it? Thanks This is normal. The battery will only charge with the computer on or in suspend. Dunno about hibernate but I doubt it'll charge. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 09:23:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17050; Mon, 1 Apr 96 09:23:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19939; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:22:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:21:20 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19764; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:21:16 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA07339; Mon, 1 Apr 96 09:19:51 EST Date: Mon, 1 Apr 96 09:19:51 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9604011419.AA07339@nile.gnat.com> To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu, sunderam@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu "This is normal. The battery will only charge with the computer on or in suspend. Dunno about hibernate but I doubt it'll charge." Really?? that's certainly not true on a 700, 720, 755 or 760. Sounds like a real disadvantage of the 701. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 09:36:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17623; Mon, 1 Apr 96 09:36:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21766; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:34:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:34:00 -0500 Received: from is.nyu.edu (root@IS.NYU.EDU [128.122.250.19]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21610; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:33:54 -0500 Received: from KLENNER.NR.RES.NYU.EDU by is.nyu.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/23Sep94-1121PM) id AA29843; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:33:43 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960401143233.0068eff8@is.nyu.edu> X-Sender: mdk1143@is.nyu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 09:32:33 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Klenner Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? At 09:19 AM 4/1/96 EST, you wrote: >"This is normal. The battery will only charge with the computer on >or in suspend. Dunno about hibernate but I doubt it'll charge." > >Really?? that's certainly not true on a 700, 720, 755 or 760. Sounds >like a real disadvantage of the 701. Not true wih my '55cx either. --- Michael Klenner East: klennerm@is.nyu.edu New York University West: mklenner@pacificnet.net Tisch School of the Arts http://pages.nyu.edu/~mdk1143 Institute of Film & Television talk: michael@24frames.com --- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 09:46:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18283; Mon, 1 Apr 96 09:46:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22830; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:45:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:43:48 -0500 Received: from mhub0.tc.umn.edu (0@mhub0.tc.umn.edu [128.101.131.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22629; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:43:42 -0500 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu by mhub0.tc.umn.edu; Mon, 1 Apr 96 08:43:38 -0600 Received: by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Mon, 1 Apr 96 08:43:37 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 08:43:37 -0600 (CST) From: Christian N Michalek To: Robert Dewar Cc: jokim@tuna.mit.edu, sunderam@cs.utk.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? In-Reply-To: <9604011419.AA07339@nile.gnat.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My 701 battery charges with the computer powered off On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Robert Dewar wrote: > "This is normal. The battery will only charge with the computer on > or in suspend. Dunno about hibernate but I doubt it'll charge." > > Really?? that's certainly not true on a 700, 720, 755 or 760. Sounds > like a real disadvantage of the 701. > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 10:18:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19385; Mon, 1 Apr 96 10:18:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25832; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:11:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:10:30 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (jokim@TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25593; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:10:26 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA12525; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:09:14 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:09:11 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Christian N Michalek Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Christian N Michalek wrote: > My 701 battery charges with the computer powered off Are you sure? Quoting the manual, page 69: To recharge an installed battery pack, the computer must be operating on ac power (that is, connected to the ac adapter) and in one of the following power states: o Power on o Suspend mode o Safe Suspend mode o Standby mode Note: The battery pack cannot recharge while the computer is in hibernate mode. Apparently to save weight, the charger's circuitry works off the laptop's power supply or something. Are you sure your computer didn't just auto-suspend? It isn't really that much trouble as long as you remember to suspend instead of power off. I hardly ever use the on/off switch anymore. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 10:23:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19584; Mon, 1 Apr 96 10:23:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26906; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:21:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:20:51 -0500 Received: from mhub2.tc.umn.edu (0@mhub2.tc.umn.edu [128.101.131.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26756; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:20:48 -0500 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu by mhub2.tc.umn.edu; Mon, 1 Apr 96 09:20:37 -0600 Received: by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Mon, 1 Apr 96 09:20:36 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:20:35 -0600 (CST) From: Christian N Michalek To: "John H. Kim" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, John H. Kim wrote: > On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Christian N Michalek wrote: > > > My 701 battery charges with the computer powered off > > Are you sure? Quoting the manual, page 69: > I very well could be wrong, but the battery seems to be charged when I turn it on in the morning after I have been using it without the ac adapter. I'll check tonight... -Chris 701C 16MB Ram 720 HD Win95 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 10:27:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19672; Mon, 1 Apr 96 10:27:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27090; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:23:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:22:35 -0500 Received: from alder.nesc.epa.gov (alder.nesc.epa.gov [204.46.18.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26936; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:22:14 -0500 Received: from baobab.nesc.epa.gov by alder.nesc.epa.gov (5.4R3.10T/140.2) id AA16524; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:21:37 -0500 Received: by baobab.nesc.epa.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA06171; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:22:15 -0500 From: "Vince Wayland" Message-Id: <9604011022.ZM6169@baobab.nesc.epa.gov> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:22:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: John Joowon Lee "MS apps on Solaris x86" (Apr 1, 2:46am) References: <199604010746.HAA35560@skeeve.msc.cornell.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: jjl9@msc.cornell.edu Subject: Re: MS apps on Solaris x86 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Or better yet get the Caldera release of linux and its application suite, which includes WABI and WordPerfect. It costs money, though. But trade off your time vs. getting useful work done. Vince On Apr 1, 2:46am, John Joowon Lee wrote: > Subject: MS apps on Solaris x86 > Hello, > > I recall that Steve Hurl* expressed, not long ago, that it would be > useful to run MS Office on Linux. I thought I might point out that > SunSoft of Sun Microsystems has Solaris 2.5 available for the *86 > architecture; Solaris can run WABI, which is capable of running quite > a number of Windows applications, but only those developed for Windows > 3.*. For a URL with information, goto http://www.yahoo.com and search > for 'Solaris'. BYTE magazine had a review of WABI in the summer of 1995, > encouragingly entitled 'A Less Wobbly WABI'. > > (I have no affiliation with Sun.) > > John Lee > jjl9@cornell.edu >-- End of excerpt from John Joowon Lee -- Vince Wayland Onsite at The National Environmental Supercomputer Center (517)894-7671 for Cray Research, Inc. veg@nesc.epa.gov NESC, 135 Washington Ave., Bay City, MI 48708 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 10:45:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20451; Mon, 1 Apr 96 10:45:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29851; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:44:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:42:58 -0500 Received: from conductor.synapse.net (conductor.synapse.net [192.197.166.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29545; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:41:54 -0500 Received: from Thinkpad (harp-16.synapse.net [199.84.52.190]) by conductor.synapse.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA07702 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:41:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604011541.KAA07702@conductor.synapse.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:47:33 +0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Battery Rejuvenation... Reply-To: phong@synapse.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Hi! I know I've seen this post before but since I can't find my reference, I thought I would ask again. I have a Thinkpad 755CX (SVGA, MWave) that has a LiIon battery. I don't know whether this is coincidence but since I've upgraded my machine to Win95, I notice that my suspend mode only last for 6-8 hours at best. Previously with Win 3.1 I could suspend the machine overnight without any problems and still have time to work before I would have to plug in the adapter. First off, I thought LiIon batteries didn't have this memory problem and that they could last much longer than NiM batteries. Secondly, is there a way of rejuvenating the battery? Believe it or not, I use the IBM Fuel utility to discharge and recharge my battery on a regular basis, in the hopes that this exact problem wouldn't occur. Thanks in advance! ...patrick ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@synapse.net (613) 769-1544 Tel phong@connectinc.com (613) 728-4063 Fax ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 11:58:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23138; Mon, 1 Apr 96 11:58:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07684; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:56:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:53:41 -0500 Received: from gl.ciw.edu (ctpsun.ciw.edu [192.70.249.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07153; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:53:24 -0500 Received: by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA13635; Mon, 1 Apr 96 11:53:07 EST Message-Id: <9604011653.AA13635@gl.ciw.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 96 11:53:03 EST From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Reply-To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Victor Kress's PMMail v1.1 Subject: 750s round the world I'm attending a meeting in Germany next week, and I would like to bring my tp750 along. My power brick is the big one (FRU P/N 49G2196) that lists input at 100-240V~0.95-0.5A. I have a two prong German style plug adaptor which fits the three prong gringo type on my cord (leaving the ground line unconnected). Do I have to worry at all about plugging my precious TP into those German lines with this setup? I have two batteries, and I hear lots of talk about hot swapping. Unfortunately, every time I try to swap with the computer on, the system crashes. This is true no matter how quickly I try to swap the battery. I thought there was some internal energy storage to keep the machine going during battery swap. Am I doing something wrong. Thanks ________________________ Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, DC 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 http://granite.ciw.edu/~kress From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 12:11:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23968; Mon, 1 Apr 96 12:11:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09457; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:11:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:09:42 -0500 Received: from nynexst.com (texas.nynexst.com [128.209.10.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08993; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:09:39 -0500 Received: from insight.nynexst.com by nynexst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.nynexst) id AA19561; Mon, 1 Apr 96 12:09:07 EST Received: from localhost by insight.nynexst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13855; Mon, 1 Apr 96 12:09:45 EST Message-Id: <9604011709.AA13855@insight.nynexst.com> To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 750s round the world In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 01 Apr 1996 11:53:03 EST." <9604011653.AA13635@gl.ciw.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5omega 10/6/94 Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 12:09:44 -0500 From: Gen Cerf > Do I have to worry at all > about plugging my precious TP into those German lines with this setup? > I plugged mine in (with the plug adaptor) in both France and Switzerland with no problems...Have fun on the trip! Gen ----------------------------------------------------- Genevieve Cerf, Ph.D. E.E. Speech Recognition & Language Understanding Services NYNEX Science & Technology 500 Westchester Avenue White Plains, NY 10604 (914) 644-2407 FAX: (914) 644-2211 gen@nynexst.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 12:45:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25402; Mon, 1 Apr 96 12:45:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12992; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:44:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:42:03 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (jokim@TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12804; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:41:59 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA13021; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:40:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:40:40 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Murray Clarke Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad In-Reply-To: <9603312216.AA05454@mod.civil.su.OZ.AU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Murray Clarke wrote: > I have a Thinkpad 755CE and wish to upgrade the hard disk drive from 540 MB > to 1.2GB. The prices of these drives as quoted from IBM or a third party, > which include the (proprietary) caddy that houses the drive, are quite > expensive. It is my understanding, however, that the drive itself is a > standard 2.5" drive. I would like to know if anyone has had experience in > opening the plastic caddy that houses the drive and installing a 2.5" inch > drive of higher capacity. What sort of drives are recommended? Several people have done it. Most 2.5" drives are 19mm. You need a 12mm or 17mm drive to fit inside the caddy. This limits your choice of hard drives: I think only IBM makes the 17mm drives, and there are only a couple companies making 12mm drives > 1GB. Most 2.5" drives are 19mm. You may be able to get a 19mm drive to fit if you do without the caddy, but that'll expose the hard drive electronics every time you swap the battery. Don Whiteside had a good description of the procedure on his old web page (RIP). Lift up the corners of the ///////// label and undo the two screws there. Take care to catch the nuts that fall out the other side when you do this. Use a jewler's screwdriver to pry apart the side of the caddy: Loosen all the snaps on the side, then gently pry it apart. This step will cause you no end of frustration until you have it apart and get a good look at how the whole thing works. Once it's open, make note of exactly which pins the connector mates with on the hard drive (there's an extra column of pins, sometimes covered by a jumper). Swap drives, put everything back together. If Don still has his instructions around, maybe he can post them. Another trick is to buy one of those cheap 170MB drives with caddy we've seen on closeout ($49 or so). Toss the 170 in the trash (or mail it to me :) and use the caddy for your new 1.2GB drive. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 12:55:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25746; Mon, 1 Apr 96 12:55:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13759; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:51:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:50:15 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.nsc.com (gatekeeper.nsc.com [139.187.71.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13467; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:50:09 -0500 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by gatekeeper.nsc.com (5.65/fma-120691) with SMTP; id AA05065 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 1 Apr 96 09:49:54 -0800 Received: from berlioz.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA21028 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 1 Apr 96 09:49:53 -0800 Received: from maradona.nsc.com by berlioz.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18893; Mon, 1 Apr 96 09:45:22 PST Date: Mon, 1 Apr 96 09:45:22 PST From: wmng@berlioz.nsc.com (William Ng) Message-Id: <9604011745.AA18893@berlioz.nsc.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 31 Mar 1996 > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 31 15:10:54 1996 > Return-Path: > To: biosas@netcom.com > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 31 Mar 1996 > Content-Length: 654 > X-Lines: 22 > > > >Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:47:14 -0500 > >From: biosas@netcom.com (Randall Downer) > >X-Sender: biosas@127.0.0.1 > > > >David, give me your linux kernal version and the EXACT X problem and I will > >send you either source or a compiled version of tpdualscan that will solve > >the problem. > > > >Randy... > > > > I'm running 1.2.13 (ELF) from the Slackware 3.0 distribution. The exact > problem is I run startx and get garbage on my screen (it looks like two > sets of shimmering horizontal lines, one at the top of the screen and the > other about halfway down). > > Will tpdualscan fix this? Do I also need a patched XF86_SVGA? > > Thanks for the help. > > David > I had to start Linux from DOS using LOADLIN if I want to use the 800x600 video mode. If I start Linux directly, "startx" fills 2/3 of my screen with white lines. At that point, I had to hit "ctl-alt-Backspace" to exit from X. I will be really interested if tpdualscan can fix the problem. Configuration: Linux 1.2.13 (Slackware 3.0) TP755CX with 24MB -William Ng wmng@nsc.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 14:08:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29302; Mon, 1 Apr 96 14:08:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20514; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:06:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:03:37 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20162; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:03:33 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:03:25 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Re: 750s round the world To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 20:03:24 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > > > Do I have to worry at all > > about plugging my precious TP into those German lines with this setup? > > > > I plugged mine in (with the plug adaptor) in both France and > Switzerland with no problems...Have fun on the trip! > No problem in Germany - I used the original 755CX adapter without any problems (well, with a different cord, the two prong model). Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 14:52:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01730; Mon, 1 Apr 96 14:52:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25105; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:48:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:47:40 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (root@chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24890; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:47:37 -0500 Received: from [128.125.224.125] (comserv-i-53.usc.edu [128.125.224.125]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) with SMTP id LAA21400; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:47:29 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:58:10 -0800 To: Vaidy Sunderam , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? At 7:20 AM 4/1/96, Vaidy Sunderam wrote: >When I plug my 701C to the ac adapter, it wseems to charge >the battery only when the computer is powered on. Has anyone >encountered this or know how to fix it? Thanks > >Vaidy Sunderam Its not a bug, its a feature! ;-) Oddly enough, the 701C (and it says this in the manual) does *not* charge the battery unless the machine is on. It can be in suspend (not hibernate), but as long as the machine is *on*, it will charge--if the machine is off in any way (including hibernate), the battery does not charge. Its just the way its made. I don't know why. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business "Did you really think you could call up the Devil and ask him to behave?" -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 14:52:28 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01735; Mon, 1 Apr 96 14:52:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25123; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:49:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:48:20 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24969; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:48:15 -0500 Received: from [128.125.224.125] (comserv-i-53.usc.edu [128.125.224.125]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) with SMTP id LAA21415; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:47:33 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:58:19 -0800 To: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar), jokim@tuna.mit.edu, sunderam@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu At 9:19 AM 4/1/96, Robert Dewar wrote: >"This is normal. The battery will only charge with the computer on >or in suspend. Dunno about hibernate but I doubt it'll charge." > >Really?? that's certainly not true on a 700, 720, 755 or 760. Sounds >like a real disadvantage of the 701. It is unique to the 701--and I'll admit its quite odd. But what's the "disadvantage" really? If you're not going to use the computer anyway (clearly you wouldn't with it "off"), then what do you care whether its turned on or not? The easiest way to do it (if you don't want it actively "on") is to put the machine in suspend--its a little weird, but its not a big deal. As for the gentleman who said his 701 charges the battery with it off--check again. Run your battery down to zilch, physically turn your machine OFF, then plug in your charger. If you have a charged battery the next day, you've surprised me, other 701 owners, and the IBM'ers who wrote the manual. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business "Did you really think you could call up the Devil and ask him to behave?" -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 15:27:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04951; Mon, 1 Apr 96 15:27:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29638; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:26:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:24:18 -0500 Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu (martigny.ai.mit.edu [18.43.0.152]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29180; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:24:10 -0500 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04478; Mon, 1 Apr 96 15:23:47 -0500 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Mon, 1 Apr 96 15:23 EST Message-Id: Date: Mon, 1 Apr 96 15:23 EST From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: jjl9@msc.cornell.edu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, jjl9@lynx.msc.cornell.edu In-Reply-To: <199604010702.HAA20303@skeeve.msc.cornell.edu> (jjl9@msc.cornell.edu) Subject: new member X-Mailer: Edwin [version 3.91, MIT Scheme Release 7.4.2+] From: John Joowon Lee Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:02:00 -0500 (EST) I'm primarily a user of flavors of UNIX and I've been quite happy with Linux. I've noticed that about every 50 hours of uptime, however, that Linux continuously accesses the hard-drive for several minutes; except for olvwm and xterm, there is no correlation with running applications. I haven't yet figured out what processes are involved. I am naive with UNIX system administration; if someone should have an idea about what Linux is doing, I would like to be educated. It's probably doing a `find' that is part of the daily cron scripts or something. It's been a while since I used Slackware, but my Debian distribution has a standard script that runs once a day and scans the entire file system for setuid scripts. On my system, this script runs at about 6:45 every morning. Look in "/var/spool/cron/crontabs/root" to see if there is anything like that on your system. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 15:33:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05598; Mon, 1 Apr 96 15:33:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00429; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:32:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:31:24 -0500 Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu (martigny.ai.mit.edu [18.43.0.152]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00330; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:31:21 -0500 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05569; Mon, 1 Apr 96 15:30:57 -0500 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Mon, 1 Apr 96 15:31 EST Message-Id: Date: Mon, 1 Apr 96 15:31 EST From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: pamaga@biobase.dk Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9604010444.AA05505@biobase.dk> (pamaga@biobase.dk) Subject: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! X-Mailer: Edwin [version 3.91, MIT Scheme Release 7.4.2+] From: Paulo Magalhaes Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:44:42 +0200 (MET DST) Ok, after too long a delay I finally found the time to install OS/2 Warp Connect on my little TP750Cs. I set the weekend aside, told friends and relatives that I was going away for the weekend, backed up all the data, read the manual, and sat down full of optimism... Never made it past the first diskette! My trustworthy Panasonic KXL-D720 CD-ROM (at least it is so under DOS/Windows) remained invisible... I tried all the tricks in my book: from re-reading the manual to minor modifications in the config.sys; from cursing to sweet-talking the machine into just taking a brief, brief look at the nice little CD-ROM player sitting next to it. Nothing would remove the cloak of invisibility from the poor Panasonic... Help! How do I install an OS that comes in a CD-ROM when the #&@$(&? thing wont even see the CD-ROM player? (Yes, it is plugged in, and ON!!!) Thank you, and forgive the warped (oh, that word again!!!) sense of humour: it is the frustration of many hours sitting in front of this machine... You're out of luck. We purchased one of these units last summer, when USA Flex mistakenly advertised it as having OS/2 drivers. After a short run-around, we got a not-very-convincing statement from Panasonic that they would have OS/2 drivers in "August or September", so we returned the drive to USA Flex and bought something else. The drivers were never released (probably not even written), and to the best of my knowledge there is no way to use that drive with OS/2. This is not an unusual story for this otherwise fairly nice operating system. What's ironic about the story is that the drive was purchased for my boss, who is the Matsushita Professor of Electrical Engineering here at MIT. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 15:55:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07347; Mon, 1 Apr 96 15:55:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02602; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:53:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:52:09 -0500 Received: from dorsai.dorsai.org (image@amanda.dorsai.org [206.127.32.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02350; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:52:02 -0500 From: Received: by dorsai.dorsai.org (5.67b/23Dec93-Dorsai Embassy) id AA02037; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:42:43 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:42:42 -0500 (est) To: "John H. Kim" Cc: Murray Clarke , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII do you know if it's possible to fit a 19mm into a 701 even without a caddy? how bad is it to not have a caddy? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 16:09:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08458; Mon, 1 Apr 96 16:09:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03887; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:03:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:03:05 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03746; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:02:58 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:02:48 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: TP701 battery pack 'life expectancy'? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 22:02:47 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text How many cycles of charging/discharging does the battery pack of the 701? I remember having read that older packs did something like 300 to 400 cycles. If this was still an accurate number, running on battery power while having a socket next to the TP would be an expensive option. How about the new LithiumIon pack of the 755CX? Thanks Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 16:56:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09982; Mon, 1 Apr 96 16:56:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10249; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:53:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:50:36 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (jokim@TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09788; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:50:31 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA13763; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:49:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:49:01 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: image@amanda.dorsai.org Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 1 Apr 1996 image@amanda.dorsai.org wrote: > do you know if it's possible to fit a 19mm into a 701 even without a > caddy? how bad is it to not have a caddy? The 701 takes a 12mm drive. I haven't taken the 701 caddy apart so I don't know how essential it is. Given the 701's drive slides in instead of popping down like the 75X, I'd think the caddy is required. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 17:02:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10232; Mon, 1 Apr 96 17:02:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10690; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:57:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:56:22 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (jokim@TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10531; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:56:19 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA13787; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:55:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:55:00 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII After my co-Linux/DOS/Win95 on a 701C install troubles a few weeks, ago, I managed to tame Win95 and get it to act less hostile towards other OSes on the hard drive. Here's what happened after Win95 wiped out [sic] all my data: A sector went bad on the Linux swap partition, foiling an attempt to reinstall Linux. I completely repartitioned to put the bad sector in a (little-used) DOS partition. While doing this and installing OS/2's boot manager, the hard drive completely died, locked up. The machine refused to even boot if the hard drive was installed. Called up EZServ. Sent it in. Got a call next day saying some of the parts were out of stock and it'd be a while. Got the machine back a week later. They also fixed a lose keyboard and replaced the cracked case caused by me forgetting to unplug the AC adapter and walking off with the machine. They replaced the system board to try to fix the static on the headphone jack problem, but it only fixed it for the right speaker. There's still static on the left speaker. I also found a crack on the side of the top lid. I can't determine if it was there before the EZServ. This is the first time an EZServ repair has taken >48 hours for me, but considering they fixed something I broke (the case), I'm happy. Anyways, back to my install story. The machine came with a new hard drive with all the original software. I'd since made Linux boot floppies with ncftp on them so I was able to back everything up this time. Whoopee. First I tried to install all three OSes, using LILO to switch between them. I discovered that you can have more than one primary partition visible to DOS/Win, and they're assigned drive letters according to the order they're on the disk. Since Win95 insists on its own C: partition, it would interfere with DOS, so LILO wouldn't do what I wanted. OS/2's boot manager only allows one active primary partition. It will switch the unused primary partitions to type 13(?), unknown, which effectively hides it from DOS/Win. This means DOS and Win95 can each have separate C: drives without knowing about the other's existence. After I'd gotten boot manager installed things went smoothly except for one hitch: Adding a logical drive to the front of the extended partition can reassign disk labels. My linux boot partition got moved from /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda7. I was able to boot off floppies (LILO: linux hd=699,32,63 root=/dev/hda7), reconfigure LILO and reinstall it. I've been led to believe that Linux is independent of drive labels so hopefully this won't cause any problems. In retrospect, this is probably what happened the first time when I thought Win95 had wiped out my partition table. So here's how I got everything to work: 1. Partition everything using OS/2's fdisk (run OS/2 fdisk and it'll install boot manager, then reboot): primary partitions: boot manager /dev/hda1 DOS boot (C:) /dev/hda2 FAT Win95 boot (C:) /dev/hda3 FAT extended partitions: /dev/hda4 Win95 (D:) /dev/hda5 FAT DOS data (E:) /dev/hda6 FAT Linux /dev/hda7 ext2 Linux swapfile /dev/hda8 swap Make sure you put DOS, Win95, and Linux in boot manager's menu. Use Linux fdisk to set the type on the Linux partitions 2. Boot, get OS/2 boot manager, select to boot DOS. It'll come up as "system files not found" since there's nothing there, but it'll set the DOS C: partition to active, and the Win95 C: partition to inactive. That's all you want. 3. Install DOS. Since the DOS C: partition is active, it'll install there. It'll also insist on formatting the D: and E: partitions but you want to do that anyway. Install DOS. 4. DOS has deactivated boot manager and set itself to bootable, so run DOS fdisk. Set the boot manager partition as the startup partition. Reboot. 5. Boot manager comes up again. This time pick Win95. It'll give the error about system files again since we haven't yet touched the Win95 C: partition, but the DOS C: partition is now inactive while the Win95 C: partition is active. 6. Install Win95. It'll disable boot manager as well. You'll have to boot off floppy and run fdisk to set boot manager to startable again. 7. Install Linux normally. Put LILO on the Linux partition (i.e. /dev/hda7 in my case). When boot manager tries to boot Linux, it'll find LILO there and run it, which will start up Linux. (I did this step first, which caused some of the problems I've described above. In generally, install the easiest things first and the hardest things last. That way if you have to start over, you don't have to do as much work. :) So I now have a system which brings up OS/2's boot manager at startup. I can pick DOS, Win95, or Linux and they all run without interfering with each other (except the DOS/Win95 C: drives are not visible to each other, no big deal). I'll withdraw my statements about Win95 trashing my hard disk. Its hostility towards other OSes certainly made it easier for me to lose my data while repartitioning, but upon reflection I don't think it was directly responsible. Win95 has a slick interface, I'll give it that. The UI also seems faster than OS/2's at certain critical points (disk management, sounds, etc.). I still manage to crash it or put it in an unusable state once every couple days, much more frequently than OS/2 or Linux, but I consider it a vast improvement over Win3.1. Its "multitasking" still stinks compared to OS/2 and Linux, but I got it so I could use long-filenamed HTML documents with a 64k color web browser, and it does that well. Given the vast amount of real estate it takes on my hard disk and the improvments over Win3.1, I'm not sure I'll put Win3.1 on my E: drive. BTW, I was able to install Smartsuite CD from a friend's desktop via a parallel laplink cable and Win95's networking. DOS's Interlink(?) should also do the job. Hardware is a TP701C DX4/75, 8MB RAM (going to 24 after I get my tax refunds ;), 720MB hard disk. Does anyone know about putting a larger hard drive in this baby? Incidently, the crack in the lid has IMHO compromised the stiffness of the lid, putting the LCD at risk if I put an uneven stress on it (i.e. toss it in my backpack with a thick boot next to it). It's going back for EZServ soon. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 17:07:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10310; Mon, 1 Apr 96 17:07:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11453; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:04:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:03:47 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11382; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:03:44 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA00199; Mon, 1 Apr 96 17:02:23 EST Date: Mon, 1 Apr 96 17:02:23 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9604012202.AA00199@nile.gnat.com> To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu, pamaga@biobase.dk Subject: Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu You can always install from a CD ROM as follows. Make a DOS partition with enough space COpy the disk images to this partition from DOS from the OS/2 CD ROM Make a modified version of the installation diskettes pointing to the diskette images (I forget exactly how this is done but it is trivial, and the procedure is in the 760CD manual if someone has one handy). Then install in the normal way, the system will be installed from the diskette images on your DOS partition. This is how I installed on a 760CD, works like a charm, and it is handy to have the diskette images around, since you can always reinstall if you need to easily. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 19:32:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17309; Mon, 1 Apr 96 19:32:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24341; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:31:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:25:27 -0500 Received: from alder.nesc.epa.gov (alder.nesc.epa.gov [204.46.18.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23798; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:25:25 -0500 Received: from baobab.nesc.epa.gov by alder.nesc.epa.gov (5.4R3.10T/140.2) id AA18943; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:24:40 -0500 Received: by baobab.nesc.epa.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA06339; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:25:18 -0500 From: "Vince Wayland" Message-Id: <9604011925.ZM6337@baobab.nesc.epa.gov> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:25:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: "John H. Kim" "Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad" (Apr 1, 4:49pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: "John H. Kim" , image@amanda.dorsai.org Subject: Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 1, 4:49pm, John H. Kim wrote: > Subject: Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad > On Mon, 1 Apr 1996 image@amanda.dorsai.org wrote: > > > do you know if it's possible to fit a 19mm into a 701 even without a > > caddy? how bad is it to not have a caddy? > > The 701 takes a 12mm drive. I haven't taken the 701 caddy apart so > I don't know how essential it is. Given the 701's drive slides in > instead of popping down like the 75X, I'd think the caddy is required. > -- > John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like > jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole > jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' > >-- End of excerpt from John H. Kim I don't think the connectors match up, do they? That was one of the points about last years discussion in trying to find the adaptor from the drive connector to the tp75x internal connector. Vince -- Vince Wayland Onsite at The National Environmental Supercomputer Center (517)894-7671 for Cray Research, Inc. veg@nesc.epa.gov NESC, 135 Washington Ave., Bay City, MI 48708 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 19:33:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17314; Mon, 1 Apr 96 19:33:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24339; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:31:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:26:29 -0500 Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23891; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:26:21 -0500 Received: from tty4-7.tc.nd.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.4/2.2) with SMTP id TAA08567; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:26:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604020026.TAA08567@judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 96 19:26:29 EST From: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) Reply-To: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Gabriel Ash's PMMail v1.1 Subject: introduction Greeting to all, I just bought a 701c, 720 HD, with 24Mb RAM. I reinstalled OS/2 Warp blue as a single os on an HPFS partition. I am very pleased with it. I would like to take the opportunity to ask about some minor questions. 1) i have DOS applications that run in a text window. Is there a way to force the window to open in a maximized way? I even used REXX to set a MAXIMIZED proprety to the PM object, with no avail. 2 )does the SIO comm driver recognize correctly the hot changed setting between [standAlone] and [MultiPort]? Thanks to all readers ------------- Gabriel Ash Notre-Dame ------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 19:35:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17339; Mon, 1 Apr 96 19:35:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24598; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:34:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:33:38 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24443; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:33:34 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA01202; Mon, 1 Apr 96 19:32:21 EST Date: Mon, 1 Apr 96 19:32:21 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9604020032.AA01202@nile.gnat.com> To: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: introduction " 1) i have DOS applications that run in a text window. Is there a way to force the window to open in a maximized way? I even used REXX to set a MAXIMIZED proprety to the PM object, with no avail." Sure, just open up the progam object for the program, and go to the seesion tab, and select DOS full screen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 23:29:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28884; Mon, 1 Apr 96 23:29:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13863; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:28:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:24:37 -0500 Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13475; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:24:30 -0500 Received: from tty41.tc1.nd.edu by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.4/2.2) with SMTP id XAA14859; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:24:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604020424.XAA14859@twins.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 96 23:24:36 EST From: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) Reply-To: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Gabriel Ash's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: introduction On Mon, 1 Apr 96 19:32:21 EST you wrote: >" 1) i have DOS applications that run in a text window. Is there a way >to force the window to open in a maximized way? I even used REXX to >set a MAXIMIZED proprety to the PM object, with no avail." > >Sure, just open up the progam object for the program, and go to the >seesion tab, and select DOS full screen > > I am sorry, I wasn't clear, I don't want a full screen session, I want the application to open in a maximized window state (without scroll bars windows. ------------- Gabriel Ash Notre-Dame ------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 1 23:44:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29290; Mon, 1 Apr 96 23:44:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15172; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:43:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:42:13 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (jokim@TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14872; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:42:10 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA14805; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:40:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:40:54 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Gabriel Ash Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: introduction In-Reply-To: <199604020424.XAA14859@twins.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Gabriel Ash wrote: > I am sorry, I wasn't clear, I don't want a full screen session, I want > the application to open in a maximized window state (without scroll > bars windows. [in OS/2] Hold down shift, resize the window until the scroll bars disappear. Next time you start it, it'll remember this size. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 00:22:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00794; Tue, 2 Apr 96 00:22:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18369; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 00:22:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 00:21:22 -0500 Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (root@jeter.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18247; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 00:21:19 -0500 Received: from barrysys (async16.async.duke.edu [152.3.249.16]) by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.7.1/Duke-3.0) with SMTP id AAA28789; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 00:10:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3160B6C2.6314@acpub.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 00:10:26 -0500 From: Barry A Starrfield Organization: EOZ, ZOG, EGFABT X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Any Mwave drivers for NT? References: <199604020026.TAA08567@judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Does anyone know when IBM will release Mwave drivers for Windows NT? Fast! Barry Starrfield From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 05:02:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12747; Tue, 2 Apr 96 05:02:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11634; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 05:02:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 04:58:55 -0500 Received: from eros.britain.eu.net (eros.Britain.EU.net [192.91.199.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10751; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 04:58:50 -0500 Received: from qtlon.quantime.co.uk by eros.britain.eu.net via UKIP with SMTP (PP) id ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:57:16 +0100 Received: from tiree.quantime.co.uk (tiree) by quantime.co.uk; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:54:54 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:58:56 +0100 Received: from lajudd.quantime.co.uk by tiree.quantime.co.uk; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:58:56 +0100 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960402105641.2fbf3f42@tiree.quantime.co.uk> X-Sender: ajudd@tiree.quantime.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) From: Alex Judd Subject: Full Screen DOS Applications Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > 1) i have DOS applications that run in a text window. Is there a way >to force the window to open in a maximized way? I even used REXX to >set a MAXIMIZED proprety to the PM object, with no avail. We also have as yet been unable to find any way to alter the parameters of a DOS session to automatically open full screen (without any previous user intervention). We've tried everything from REXX to PIF parameters to MODE! Alex From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 05:42:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14114; Tue, 2 Apr 96 05:42:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21486; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 05:41:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 05:40:17 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21184; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 05:40:14 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:39:38 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (fwd) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:39:37 +0200 (MES) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text How exactly did you modify the installation diskettes? Thanks Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > > You can always install from a CD ROM as follows. > > Make a DOS partition with enough space > > COpy the disk images to this partition from DOS from the OS/2 CD ROM > > Make a modified version of the installation diskettes pointing to > the diskette images (I forget exactly how this is done but it is > trivial, and the procedure is in the 760CD manual if someone has > one handy). > > Then install in the normal way, the system will be installed from the > diskette images on your DOS partition. > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 06:41:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16194; Tue, 2 Apr 96 06:41:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27365; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 06:40:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 06:38:26 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27064; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 06:38:10 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA22623; Tue, 2 Apr 96 06:36:16 EST Date: Tue, 2 Apr 96 06:36:16 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9604021136.AA22623@nile.gnat.com> To: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu, ajudd@quantime.co.uk Subject: Re: Full Screen DOS Applications Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Alex says "We also have as yet been unable to find any way to alter the parameters of a DOS session to automatically open full screen (without any previous user intervention). We've tried everything from REXX to PIF parameters to MODE!" Do you mean ful screen, or maximized. Both are easy, but the methods ar quite different. For full screen, just set the appropriate box in the session section of settings. For maximized, just make sure you use the shift key, as described in a previous messsage. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 06:42:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16353; Tue, 2 Apr 96 06:42:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27468; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 06:41:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 06:40:48 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27337; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 06:40:45 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA22648; Tue, 2 Apr 96 06:39:04 EST Date: Tue, 2 Apr 96 06:39:04 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9604021139.AA22648@nile.gnat.com> To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (fwd) "How exactly did you modify the installation diskettes?" Sorry, I can't rmember, the procedure is in the 760CD manual, but I can't find mine anywhere. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 10:10:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24765; Tue, 2 Apr 96 10:10:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12616; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:09:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:06:14 -0500 Received: from lotus.com (lotus.com [192.233.136.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12125; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:06:06 -0500 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd2.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA23018; Tue, 2 Apr 96 10:19:39 EST Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA21096; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 09:59:01 -0500 Message-Id: <9604021459.AA21096@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.03 Beta) id 40E00573839A7648052563000046EF31; Tue, 2 Apr 96 09:58:59 EST To: "John H. Kim" Cc: thinkpad From: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus Date: 2 Apr 96 8:02:16 EST Subject: Re: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain jokim @ tuna.mit.edu ("John H. Kim") 04-01-96 03:55 PM wrote: >>Win95 has a slick interface, I'll give it that. The UI also seems >>faster than OS/2's at certain critical points (disk management, >>sounds, etc.). I still manage to crash it or put it in an unusable >>state once every couple days, much more frequently than OS/2 or Linux, >>but I consider it a vast improvement over Win3.1. Its "multitasking" >>still stinks compared to OS/2 and Linux, but I got it so I could use >>long-filenamed HTML documents with a 64k color web browser, and it >>does that well. Given the vast amount of real estate it takes on my >>hard disk and the improvments over Win3.1, I'm not sure I'll put >>Win3.1 on my E: drive. You said you got it (Wind95) so that you could use "long-filenamed HTML documents with a 64k color web browser". OS/2's WebExplorer certainly supports long filenamed HTML documents and you can get drivers for the 701C that support 64k colors. Since you obviously prefer OS/2 over Wind95 why not go back to it and get back the crash protection and smooth multitasking. The next version (code-named Merlin) will have an interface that is much slicker than Wind95 and has the underlying infra- structure to support the interface properly. -Bill From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 10:54:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26255; Tue, 2 Apr 96 10:54:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17446; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:53:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:53:04 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (jokim@TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17327; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:53:02 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA15969; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:51:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:51:38 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup In-Reply-To: <9604021459.AA21092@internet1.lotus.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Apr 1996, Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus wrote: > You said you got it (Wind95) so that you could use "long-filenamed HTML > documents with a 64k color web browser". OS/2's WebExplorer certainly > supports long filenamed HTML documents and you can get drivers for > the 701C that support 64k colors. Since you obviously prefer OS/2 over > Wind95 why not go back to it and get back the crash protection and > smooth multitasking. I thought I'd read somewhere that WebExplorer won't work in 16-bit color? Also, I don't have an ethernet-capable version of OS/2 (The version I was using before switching to Linux was a one-year DevCon license). I do most of my work under Linux so Win95's poor multitasking isn't that big a deal. To be honest, I've almost conceded that Microsoft is going to keep their stranglehold on the PC market, and the only hope now is that networked apps will make the operating system irrelevent, pulling the rug out from underneath Microsoft's base. Did you see PC Week's recent review of presentation apps for Win95? Only Microsoft's Win95 app was faster than its Win3.1 predecessor. Everybody else's was slower. I wonder when the Feds are going to wake up and see that a major app company controling the OS is not a good thing. Ach, I'm rambling into politics... Since you're at Lotus, I'll add that the group editing features in WordPro are REALLY slick! Great job. When is Merlin coming out? I'm more than willing to take a look at it to run Smartsuite. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 11:19:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27115; Tue, 2 Apr 96 11:19:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20522; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:18:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:17:21 -0500 Received: from biobase.dk (biobase.dk [130.225.13.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20341; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:17:17 -0500 Received: by biobase.dk; id AA10601; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:17:59 +0200 From: Paulo Magalhaes Message-Id: <9604021617.AA10601@biobase.dk> Subject: Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:17:59 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <9604021139.AA22648@nile.gnat.com> from "Robert Dewar" at Apr 2, 96 06:39:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text If some kind soul with a 760 manual handy could post the instructions for modifying the installation disks, I'm sure at least a couple of us would be very grateful. Thanks. -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 11:22:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27145; Tue, 2 Apr 96 11:22:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20902; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:21:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:18:59 -0500 Received: from lotus.com (lotus.com [192.233.136.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20539; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:18:55 -0500 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd2.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA27112; Tue, 2 Apr 96 11:32:32 EST Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA23785; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:11:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9604021611.AA23785@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.03 Beta) id 122EF19BE627256D8525630000580003; Tue, 2 Apr 96 11:11:53 EST To: "John H. Kim" Cc: thinkpad From: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus Date: 2 Apr 96 12:04:52 EST Subject: Re: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Merlin is due out sometime mid-year .... The beta is due sometime this month ... WordPro beta for OS/2 is just about ready to go. Freelance isn't far behind. As far as WebExplorer and 16-bit color, 1.03 is the version I run and it runs fine. Also on the WebExplorer Home Page is a version that has Java support as well ( http://www.raleigh.ibm.com/WebExplorer/webhome.htm ) -Bill jokim @ tuna.mit.edu ("John H. Kim") 04-02-96 09:51 AM To: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus cc: thinkpad @ cs.utk.edu @ INTERNET Subject: Re: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup On 2 Apr 1996, Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus wrote: > You said you got it (Wind95) so that you could use "long-filenamed HTML > documents with a 64k color web browser". OS/2's WebExplorer certainly > supports long filenamed HTML documents and you can get drivers for > the 701C that support 64k colors. Since you obviously prefer OS/2 over > Wind95 why not go back to it and get back the crash protection and > smooth multitasking. I thought I'd read somewhere that WebExplorer won't work in 16-bit color? Also, I don't have an ethernet-capable version of OS/2 (The version I was using before switching to Linux was a one-year DevCon license). I do most of my work under Linux so Win95's poor multitasking isn't that big a deal. To be honest, I've almost conceded that Microsoft is going to keep their stranglehold on the PC market, and the only hope now is that networked apps will make the operating system irrelevent, pulling the rug out from underneath Microsoft's base. Did you see PC Week's recent review of presentation apps for Win95? Only Microsoft's Win95 app was faster than its Win3.1 predecessor. Everybody else's was slower. I wonder when the Feds are going to wake up and see that a major app company controling the OS is not a good thing. Ach, I'm rambling into politics... Since you're at Lotus, I'll add that the group editing features in WordPro are REALLY slick! Great job. When is Merlin coming out? I'm more than willing to take a look at it to run Smartsuite. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 11:28:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27298; Tue, 2 Apr 96 11:28:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21653; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:26:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:24:52 -0500 Received: from ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (pantazis@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21322; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:24:49 -0500 Received: (from pantazis@localhost) by ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12ui) id KAA03396; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:24:25 -0600 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:24:14 -0600 (CST) From: Dennis Pantazis X-Sender: pantazis@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu To: thinkpad Subject: Optimize memory on 701 & QEMM? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I finally got all the garbage off of my TP701, upgraded the BIOS, and got the Dos/WFW stuff the way I wanted it, and I also changed some of the port assignments around: Modem on COM2 (IRQ3), IrDA on COM1(4), Floppy on Pll- 1(7), Audio (10), got my desktop cnfigured to work with a modem and the JetEye IrDA, everything worked, played around with the modem, IrDA, transfered some files, cool! Then I tried to install QEMM to optimize my memory, it went through pretty good, except that it started out with like 7x10E18 combinations, and I waited for it to drop to about 7x10E15 (15 minutes)and selected the already maximized configuration, No I do not exagerate the magnatude of the numbers, After QEMM finished, I got back up to 629 K under 640, everyhting seemed prety good. WRONG! After reboot, none of the ports worked right, no floppy, no Ir, no nothing, programs seem to work ok, but all periferals seem out of kilter. How should one optimize the memory on a 701? What have people done to otimizr the first 640k? TIA Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Pantazis My opinions are my own, and can not be interpreted as extensions of the Graduate Student in Civil Engineering University's official policies. University of Illinois-Urbana (the Extended Tour of Duty continues) You can see us at http://students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 12:14:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29327; Tue, 2 Apr 96 12:14:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26279; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:08:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:06:51 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25892; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:06:49 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id MAA22272; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:03:02 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA6223; Tue, 02 Apr 96 12:00:40 -0800 Message-Id: <9604022000.AA6223@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 82CD7FF32E23A191852563000057C038; Tue, 2 Apr 96 12:00:39 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 2 Apr 96 12:03:34 EDT Subject: Re: Optimize memory on 701 & QEMM? X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "...I tried to install QEMM to optimize my memory, it went through pretty good, except that it started out with like 7x10E18 combinations, and I waited for it to drop to about 7x10E15 (15 minutes)and selected the already maximized configuration, No I do not exagerate the magnatude of the numbers,... ...How should one optimize the memory on a 701? What have people done to otimizr the first 640k?..." ~~~~~ i like ramdoubler. it's by connectix & it takes all of 20 seconds to install in windows. it's for windows only, so it won't do your dos apps any good. also, it doesn't use the 'stealthing' of umb's that qemm uses, but the end result is that i'll run out of applications to open before i run out of memory to open them in. also, it only costs about $50. when i ran qemm, i looked at the combinations it was working on & calculated that, if i let it run it's course, it would take 37 days to complete. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 13:18:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04451; Tue, 2 Apr 96 13:18:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02318; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 13:17:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 13:15:08 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (jokim@TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02069; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 13:15:05 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA16241; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 13:13:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 13:13:45 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: IBM PC Factory Outlet Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Spotted this while visiting IBM's web site. IBM's PC Factory Outlet has a list of new and refurbished stuff, including 170MB hard drives (with caddy) for TP 360/750/755 for $65: ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/hardware_announcements/pcoutlet.txt -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 14:23:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09246; Tue, 2 Apr 96 14:23:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08744; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:22:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:19:47 -0500 Received: from tom.compulink.co.uk (tom.compulink.co.uk [194.153.0.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08358; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:19:42 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by tom.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA09275 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 20:19:04 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 96 20:17 BST-1 From: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk (Gerry Prosser) Subject: Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Cc: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk Reply-To: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9604021617.AA10601@biobase.dk> add the following line (or your version thereof) to the config.sys on diskette # 1: set sourcepath=f:\os2image where directory 'os2image' contains all the individual subdirectories, disk_0, disk_1 .... etc I do this all the time with my 755CD ..... Gerry From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 14:26:52 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09504; Tue, 2 Apr 96 14:26:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08941; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:23:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:22:10 -0500 Received: from netcom14.netcom.com (phr@netcom14.netcom.com [192.100.81.126]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08741; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:22:07 -0500 Received: by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id LAA15417; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:22:05 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:22:05 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199604021922.LAA15417@netcom14.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: tp755 caddies Some company I haven't been able to find the name of is making a metal caddy that fits my 755cx. The metal is a little thinner than the IBM plastic caddy, so you can put a 19mm high drive in it. Also, it is held together with screws, so you can change the drive inside without breaking any ultrasonic welds or the like. It's nice. I don't know where to buy them but maybe someone else here does. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 14:59:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11760; Tue, 2 Apr 96 14:59:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13030; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:58:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:57:09 -0500 Received: from desiree.teleport.com (desiree.teleport.com [192.108.254.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12880; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:57:03 -0500 Received: from linda.teleport.com (domv@linda.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16489 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:57:01 -0800 (PST) From: Dom Virgilio Received: (from domv@localhost) by linda.teleport.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA13197 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:57:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199604021957.LAA13197@linda.teleport.com> Subject: unsubscribe To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:57:00 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Please unsubscribe domv@teleport.com Thanks, Dom From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 2 18:42:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23206; Tue, 2 Apr 96 18:42:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08631; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:39:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:35:46 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08183; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:35:42 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.166] (comserv-g-22.usc.edu [128.125.223.166]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) with SMTP id PAA20688; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:35:31 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:46:14 -0800 To: Michael Verne/VENTANA , tp750 From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Optimize memory on 701 & QEMM? At 12:03 PM 4/2/96, Michael Verne/VENTANA "...I tried to install QEMM to optimize my memory, it went through pretty >good, except that it started out with like 7x10E18 combinations, and I >waited for it to drop to about 7x10E15 (15 minutes)and selected the >already maximized configuration, No I do not exagerate the magnatude of >the numbers,... >...How should one optimize the memory on a 701? What have people done to >otimizr the first 640k?..." > >~~~~~ >i like ramdoubler. it's by connectix & it takes all of 20 seconds to install >in windows. it's for windows only, so it won't do your dos apps any good. RAMDoubler is a great product, but keep in mind they have not yet released a version for Windows '95--and the current version won't work right under Win '95. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 3 00:04:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09083; Wed, 3 Apr 96 00:04:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06891; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 00:02:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 23:55:09 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06062; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 23:55:05 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id EAA140731 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 04:54:55 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 04:54:55 GMT Message-Id: <199604030454.EAA140731@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip129-37-155-131.on.ca.ibm.net(129.37.155.131) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaJbADmb; Wed Apr 3 04:54:47 1996 X-Sender: szivos@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Geza Szivos Subject: Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! >COpy the disk images to this partition from DOS from the OS/2 CD ROM > >Make a modified version of the installation diskettes pointing to >the diskette images (I forget exactly how this is done but it is >trivial, and the procedure is in the 760CD manual if someone has >one handy). > use the SET SOURCEPATH={YourDrive:\YourPath} on the Diskette 1's config.sys. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geza Szivos Systems Engineer, SIVCO Inc. BESTeam and TEAMOS2 Member Certified IBM OS/2 Engineer, Certified LAN Server Engineer and AD Specialist Tel: (403)-850-4500 FAX: (403)-547-4741 Szivos@ibm.net TalkLink:lnk9094 IBMMail(CANOVXVV) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 3 04:58:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19815; Wed, 3 Apr 96 04:58:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04730; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 04:57:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Wed, 3 Apr 1996 04:54:54 -0500 Received: from sable.nus.sg (sable.nus.sg [137.132.1.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04501; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 04:54:47 -0500 Received: from leonis.nus.sg (leonis.nus.sg [137.132.1.18]) by sable.nus.sg (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA22658 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:54:41 +0800 Received: from unknown (leonis.nus.sg [137.132.1.18]) by leonis.nus.sg (8.6.10/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) with SMTP id RAA18783 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:54:37 +0800 From: fba40221@leonis.nus.sg (Alvin Chua) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: International mail order company selling 701CS? Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 22:52:22 GMT Message-Id: <3162ff79.12406938@137.132.1.18> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 Hi, Before I begin, I apologise for being on this list even though I don't own a TP7xx series. I do have a TP500 though. I saw IBM's factory outlet selling the following : 486DX4-75 RFRB 8MB 360MB 10.4"/VGA/COLOR* W 2630-2SU $1279 However, I cannot call IBM because I am living in Singapore. Does anyone know of a mail order company that has a similar model for about this price (I can't afford the model with 720mb harddisk). Thank you, Alvin From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 3 09:37:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29191; Wed, 3 Apr 96 09:37:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29150; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:35:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:32:03 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28501; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:31:55 -0500 Received: (from buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) id GAA09021; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 06:31:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199604031431.GAA09021@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 96 06:37:36 EST From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: 16MB card I would be interested in buying anyone's used 16MB memory card suitable for the TP755Cs. I am presently running 8MB, and would like to upgrade to 16, but cannot afford a new card. Anyone? ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 ----------------------------- AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I would rather die peacefully, in my sleep, like my Grandfather, rather than screaming, and in terror, like his passengers..." From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 3 16:32:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20188; Wed, 3 Apr 96 16:32:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20280; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 16:29:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Wed, 3 Apr 1996 16:24:25 -0500 Received: from ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu (ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19403; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 16:24:23 -0500 Received: from dial128.Vanderbilt.Edu by ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11488) id <01I33YANCWEO8X210D@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 03 Apr 1996 15:17:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 15:17:59 -0600 (CST) Date-Warning: Date header was inserted by ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu From: gramlijf@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (James Gramling) Subject: Thinkpad 701 advice X-Sender: gramlijf@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01I33YANYVB68X210D@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I am in the process of trying to find a notebook computer for my mother to use in her real estate practice. She needs an internal modem to retrieve listings from an online source. Her company is offering some Zenith Z-notes at an attractive price (around $1800), but I'm wondering if a 701 might be better. I would appreciate comments from anyone with experience with this machine, specifically, is it a good machine for a "mother" who is not into computers and doesn't want to have to deal with technical problems or issues. In particular, I have heard that there may be some problems with the modem on that machine. She will be using either Windows 3.1 or Win95. Thanks for your help. -james gramling From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 3 18:00:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25628; Wed, 3 Apr 96 18:00:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00577; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:58:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:55:51 -0500 Received: from postoffice5.mail.cornell.edu (POSTOFFICE5.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.56.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00283; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:55:47 -0500 Received: from CU-DIALUP-1208.CIT.CORNELL.EDU (CU-DIALUP-0932.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.155.110]) by postoffice5.mail.cornell.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA21806 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:52:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by CU-DIALUP-1208.CIT.CORNELL.EDU with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2186.95AD08A0@CU-DIALUP-1208.CIT.CORNELL.EDU>; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:54:20 -0500 Message-Id: <01BB2186.95AD08A0@CU-DIALUP-1208.CIT.CORNELL.EDU> From: Marshall Lai To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Full Duplex with ESS on 701 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:53:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------- Hi, I am wondering if the ESS on 701C is capable of full duplex (Record and = Playback at the same time) operations? If so, where can I find the ESS = driver to support this? Marshall Lai mtl1@cornell.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 3 19:38:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29270; Wed, 3 Apr 96 19:38:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08024; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:37:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:33:54 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07677; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:33:51 -0500 Received: from liv-14.rust.net (liv-14.rust.net [206.42.195.114]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA08851; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:34:03 -0500 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:34:03 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604040034.TAA08851@Fe3.rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: 16MB card Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu At 06:37 AM 4/3/96 EST, you wrote: > >I would be interested in buying anyone's used 16MB memory card >suitable >for the TP755Cs. I am presently running 8MB, and would like to >upgrade >to 16, but cannot afford a new card. Anyone? > >----------------------------------- >Roger J. Buffington >USC Law, Class of '97 > >----------------------------- >AB6WR >Go Trojans!! >WARPing with PM-Mail > >| "I would rather die peacefully, in my sleep, like my Grandfather, >rather than screaming, and in terror, like his passengers..." > See who made your memory module. I'm working with Visiontek, a laptop memory maker, to do this very same thing, swap an 8 for a 16... B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three ere the other side he see." Bridgekeeper, Holy Grail =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 3 20:31:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03024; Wed, 3 Apr 96 20:31:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12184; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 20:29:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Wed, 3 Apr 1996 20:28:34 -0500 Received: from ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (pantazis@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.62]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12029; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 20:28:32 -0500 Received: (from pantazis@localhost) by ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12ui) id TAA06212; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:28:21 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:28:18 -0600 (CST) From: Dennis Pantazis To: thinkpad Subject: IdDA & TP701 Success Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I finally got my JetEye InfraRed (Extended Systems 1-800-235-7576) and after installing TranXit on my desktop, and configuring everything, I marveled at how the two machines transfer files! They negotiate on their own and transfer at about 115.2 Kb. Its about a 3 minute meg. Transfers seem to go faster when the desktop is the host machine and the TP as the remote. The JetEye is velcro-ed to the bottom of my monitor, nice and out of the way. It lists for $135, but can be gotten from one of the resellers, check out www.extendsys.com. No if I could only figure out how to get P2P to work.... Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Pantazis My opinions are my own, and can not be interpreted as extensions of the Graduate Student in Civil Engineering University's official policies, University of Illinois-Urbana until they decide my opinion's are (the Extended Tour of Duty continues) worth money to the institution!!! You can see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 3 23:35:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11118; Wed, 3 Apr 96 23:35:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27139; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 23:34:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Wed, 3 Apr 1996 23:31:44 -0500 Received: from europe.std.com ([199.172.62.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26855; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 23:31:41 -0500 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.5/BZS-8-1.0) id XAA05184; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 23:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA17778; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 22:35:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 22:35:17 -0500 From: rkurzman@world.std.com (ricky kurzman) Message-Id: <199604040335.AA17778@world.std.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Panasonic CF-41 A friend of mine is offering to sell me the CF-41. What should I pay for it? It's 16M RAM, 75 MHZ pentium. CD, 14.4 modem, 640M hard drive. Should I get it? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 02:58:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17849; Thu, 4 Apr 96 02:58:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13938; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 02:56:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 02:48:48 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13198; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 02:48:44 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:48:32 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Thinkpad 701 advice To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:48:32 +0200 (MES) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text The size of the 701 is a very convincing factor! But: don't take the DualScan model. I haven't seen the TFT one yet but compared to the TFT of the 755CX and even to the mono of the old 720 it's pretty disappointing (the old mono with its 16 gray shades is much sharper...). Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > > I am in the process of trying to find a notebook computer for my mother to > use in her real estate practice. She needs an internal modem to retrieve > listings from an online source. Her company is offering some Zenith Z-notes > at an attractive price (around $1800), but I'm wondering if a 701 might be > better. I would appreciate comments from anyone with experience with this > machine, specifically, is it a good machine for a "mother" who is not into > computers and doesn't want to have to deal with technical problems or > issues. In particular, I have heard that there may be some problems with > the modem on that machine. She will be using either Windows 3.1 or Win95. > Thanks for your help. > > -james gramling > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 06:57:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26931; Thu, 4 Apr 96 06:57:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07508; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 06:57:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 06:52:55 -0500 Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07281; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 06:52:40 -0500 Received: from visago.pacific.net.sg ([203.120.81.167]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA5052 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 19:52:25 +0800 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960404114942.0069ec30@pacific.net.sg> X-Sender: skat@pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 19:49:42 +0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: skat@pacific.net.sg (Sam King ) Subject: introduction --- snip --- Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST --- snip --- Hello there! I'm just new to this list, so here's a little intro. I just recently got a ThinkPad 701C. It's the Dx4/75 with a 540meg drive. I also got another 8 meg with it, so it has 16 altogether. I'm rather annoyed that the modem is not approved in my country and is, therefore, absent. More or less I'm rather happy with it. It's small, light and ideal as long as you don't try anything CPU-crunching. :) I was wondering, however, if any of you have this problem: It seems that my screen experiences color distortions. Some colors in a pallette tend to go 'bad' sometimes, rather intermittently. My friend who has the same machine but with an older version of the BIOS never had this problem, but after he flashed to 3O, he did. Flashing to 3O, needless to say, did not correct the problem for me, either. anyone? lemme hear ya? how many of you out there? ;) seeya4now Sam King skat@pacific.net.sg From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 09:22:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02575; Thu, 4 Apr 96 09:22:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17757; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:20:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:18:27 -0500 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17481; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:18:20 -0500 Received: from Horizon.kodak.com ([129.126.232.5]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA19945 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:15:47 -0500 Received: by Horizon.kodak.com with Microsoft Mail id <3164068F@Horizon.kodak.com>; Thu, 04 Apr 96 09:27:43 PST From: "King, Randall" To: thinkpad Subject: RE: introduction Date: Thu, 04 Apr 96 09:12:00 PST Message-Id: <3164068F@Horizon.kodak.com> Encoding: 37 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 >Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, >how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), >and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST OK, since we're getting into introductions, hi. I work for Eastman Kodak, and we have a mobile sales force that is equiped with Thinkpads. Currently we have 700's, 720's (not many), 750's, 360 CSE's, 755CX's, 755CV's, 760C's, and two 760CD's (and one is my personal machine). We have several hundred of these different machines out in the field. I create the master setup for our field machines, and I am also the 'pre-IBM' tech support for these machines. Before our Help Desk calls IBM service, they usually call me. Since most of our field equipment is laptops, equipped with only modems, I don't have to deal with docking stations, 'weird' PCMCIA cards, or any non-standard equipment (CDROM's, GPS equipment :), which makes that part of my job fairly easy. My office machines are a 760CD (1.2G HD, 16Meg of Memory, IBM Ethernet and Adaptec Slim SCSI PCMCIA cards), running both Win3.1, and Windows 95, and a 755CX (540 HD, 16Meg, non-MWave model, Megahertz XJ2288 modem) running the same. I also have a Valuepoint, but that is not part of this discussion. As Forrest Gump would say "...and that's all I gotta say about that." Please keep up the intros. I would like to know who else is on this list too. Now, to make another plea. If someone knows who makes an adapter to hook a thinkpad HD into a desktop (2.5" -> standard IDE), please send me a manufacturere and a part number. Even vendors (preferrably in the NE US) would be useful. Thanks in advance... RK rjking@kodak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 10:01:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05497; Thu, 4 Apr 96 10:01:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21567; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:59:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:58:47 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21445; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:58:44 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id JAA26971; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:55:02 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA8994; Thu, 04 Apr 96 09:58:55 -0800 Message-Id: <9604041758.AA8994@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id C4888234C504BEF185256302004BF767; Thu, 4 Apr 96 09:58:55 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 4 Apr 96 9:51:04 EDT Subject: 755cd & linux X-Lotus-Type: Memo w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain i'm going to put linux on a spare hdd to test it on my 755cd. i'm sure it's tricky & i don't want to bog this list down with every snag i run into. does anyone know of a source of all or most of the instructions for doing this? something like the 'thinkpad win95 page,' which worked wonders for me, would be perfect. i'll be doing the nt workstation next, so if you've got that too, i'd appreciate it. thanks in advance, Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 10:09:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05844; Thu, 4 Apr 96 10:09:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22446; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:07:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:06:32 -0500 Received: from bruin.LCS.MIT.EDU (bruin.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.147]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22355; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:06:29 -0500 Received: by bruin.LCS.MIT.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20449; Thu, 4 Apr 96 10:06:25 EST Message-Id: <9604041506.AA20449@bruin.LCS.MIT.EDU> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: looking for XF86Config file for... Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 10:06:25 -0500 From: Ed Hurley hi, i have a thinkpad 755CV which became thrashed enough that i had to re-install linux on it. in the process i lost my XF86Config file. my machine uses the wd90c30 chip, and i'm mostly interested in running the XF86_SVGA server. could someone please send me their config file? please send it directly to me, as i don't currently subscribe to this list. thanks, -ed From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 10:11:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06491; Thu, 4 Apr 96 10:11:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22949; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:11:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:09:48 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp [202.32.89.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22654; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:09:34 -0500 Received: by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp; id AAA01466; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:08:36 +0900 Received: from unknown(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (g3.0.3) id xma001462; Fri, 5 Apr 96 00:08:15 +0900 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id AAA14724; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:09:09 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id AAA18177; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:08:14 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id AAA27139; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:08:13 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:08:14 +0900 Message-Id: <199604041508.AAA03817@tubby.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9604041758.AA8994@lgate.vmedia.com> (message from Michael Verne/VENTANA on 4 Apr 96 9:51:04 EDT) Subject: Re: 755cd & linux Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp VENTANA wrote: |> i'm going to put linux on a spare hdd to test it on my 755cd. i'm sure |> it's tricky & i don't want to bog this list down with every snag i run |> into. does anyone know of a source of all or most of the instructions |> for doing this? Probably the normal install of the distribution that you use. But you might want to check out http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/tp-linux.html http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 11:09:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08737; Thu, 4 Apr 96 11:09:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00632; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:07:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:04:40 -0500 Received: from dmog10.bell.ca (dmog10.bell.ca [198.235.69.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29857; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:04:19 -0500 Received: from dcoc41.qc.bell.ca (dcoc41.qc.bell.ca [142.119.11.11]) by dmog10.bell.ca with ESMTP id LAA16560 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:03:28 -0500 Received: from dcocps.qc.bell.ca (dcocps.QC.Bell.CA [198.235.99.39]) by dcoc41.qc.bell.ca with SMTP id LAA12491 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:02:35 -0500 Received: from eric (cmxc5q.QC.Bell.CA) by dcocps.qc.bell.ca (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07810; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:03:27 -0500 Received: by eric with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2216.7345CDC0@eric>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:04:10 -0500 Message-Id: <01BB2216.7345CDC0@eric> From: Eric Trepanier To: "'ThinkPad Distribution List'" Subject: TP760CD Display Drivers for NT 4.0 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:04:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, I've received the Windows NT 4.0 Premium Release (Beta 1) and it seems that Microsoft has changed the NT driver model so my old (NT 3.51) SVGA drivers do not work under NT 4.0. Right now, all it can do is 800x600x16. Does anybody know if there are new IBM drivers for the 760CD that would be compatible with NT 4.0? It would be much appreciated, Thanks! Eric Eric Trepanier etrepani@qc.bell.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 11:14:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09090; Thu, 4 Apr 96 11:14:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01346; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:13:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:13:13 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01247; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:13:10 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id LAA01517; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:09:28 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA9217; Thu, 04 Apr 96 11:13:21 -0800 Message-Id: <9604041913.AA9217@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 4367D5DF8EABF1F7852563020052E2DB; Thu, 4 Apr 96 11:13:21 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 4 Apr 96 11:06:20 EDT Subject: tp hdd-to-ide caddies X-Lotus-Type: Memo w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain got a lead on these. one of our consultants has one he won't part with, but he thinks he can get more. he says that, if the company still sells them, it's unlikely i'll be able to get them directly, but i could get them through him (maybe he just wants his cut). in any case, how many of you are interested? Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 12:16:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11623; Thu, 4 Apr 96 12:16:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09863; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:14:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:11:48 -0500 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09435; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:11:38 -0500 Received: from axopta.kodak.com by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA24586 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:47:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199604041547.AA24586@kodakr.kodak.com> Received: from pc089d ([129.126.18.201]) by AXOPTA.KODAK.COM with SMTP; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:48:05 -0500 (EST) Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John D. Griffith" Organization: Eastman Kodak Co To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:52:44 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: IdDA & TP701 Success Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) > I finally got my JetEye InfraRed (Extended Systems 1-800-235-7576) and > after installing TranXit on my desktop, and configuring everything, I > marveled at how the two machines transfer files! They negotiate on their > own and transfer at about 115.2 Kb. Its about a 3 minute meg. > Transfers seem to go faster when the desktop is the host machine and the > TP as the remote. > I would like to buy one of these things for my desktop machine at work and use it to transfer files to my thinkpad 701. However, the problem is that I'm running Windows NT on my desktop machine machine and a lot of communication software doesn't work under NT. For example, Laplink doesn't work under NT (at least over a parallel cable). Do these irDa devices require special drivers to operate or are they simply hardware devices that would work with any program (e.g. kermit) that talks politely with the serial port under NT?? Currently, to transfer files, I reboot from NT to DOS and run laplink. This is quite inconvenient as I often have lengthy optimization calculations running on the NT machine. I contacted two vendors of these devices trying to get an answer to this question, but I was unable to penetrate the sales/marketing barrier. I'd appreciate any information that anybody has. John D. Griffith John D. Griffith Optical Design Department Eastman Kodak Company griffith@kodak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 12:24:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11843; Thu, 4 Apr 96 12:24:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11386; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:22:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:21:23 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us (nvcc.nvc.cc.ca.us [198.94.160.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11251; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:20:59 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67f2/NX3.0M-FZ-1.0) id AA14741; Thu, 4 Apr 96 09:20:31 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 09:20:29 PST To: "John D. Griffith" Subject: Re: IdDA & TP701 Success Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199604041547.aa24586@kodakr.kodak.com> References: <199604041547.aa24586@kodakr.kodak.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8bx m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8bx m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit On Apr. 04 96, 07:52 PST, "John D. Griffith" > Do these irDa devices require special drivers to operate or are > they simply hardware devices that would work with any program > (e.g. kermit) that talks politely with the serial port under NT?? The JetEye that I have just connects to the serial port and translates serial data to/from IrDA. It only communicates at 115200, so unless your software (and serial port) can do that, you won't be able to use it. But it doesn't require any special drivers to use the device. I have mine connected to my Mac, and I've been able to communicate between my ThinkPad and my Mac (not useful, but it was the only desktop I had that could do 115200). --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 12:34:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12606; Thu, 4 Apr 96 12:34:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12729; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:32:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:31:29 -0500 Received: from ux7.cso.uiuc.edu (ux7.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12526; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:31:25 -0500 Received: (from pantazis@localhost) by ux7.cso.uiuc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA87028; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:31:14 -0600 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:31:12 -0600 (CST) From: Dennis Pantazis To: "John D. Griffith" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IdDA & TP701 Success In-Reply-To: <199604041547.AA24586@kodakr.kodak.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 4 Apr 1996, John D. Griffith wrote: > I would like to buy one of these things for my desktop machine at > work and use it to transfer files to my thinkpad 701. However, the > problem is that I'm running Windows NT on my desktop machine > machine and a lot of communication software doesn't work under NT. > For example, Laplink doesn't work under NT (at least over a parallel > cable). If LapLink works with a serial link then I susspect that it would work with the IrDA adaptor. I thought someone made a program like LapLink or TranXit for NT. > > Do these irDa devices require special drivers to operate or are they > simply hardware devices that would work with any program (e.g. > kermit) that talks politely with the serial port under NT?? > The adaptor does not need any drivers, it connects up to the serial port and acts as an extension of it. 1 meter range using the power supplied to serial port. It must be suported in the traqnsfer program like Laplink. > Currently, to transfer files, I reboot from NT to DOS and run > laplink. This is quite inconvenient as I often have lengthy > optimization calculations running on the NT machine. > Why not just use a terminal or modem program and send z modem from one to the other over a null modem cable? > I contacted two vendors of these devices trying to get an answer to > this question, but I was unable to penetrate the sales/marketing > barrier. I'd appreciate any information that anybody has. > Extended System are at www.extendsys,com or at 1-800-235-7576 NOTE:I am in no way related or affiliated to this company, I only like their product. Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Pantazis My opinions are my own, and can not be interpreted as extensions of the Graduate Student in Civil Engineering University's official policies, University of Illinois-Urbana until they decide my opinion's are (the Extended Tour of Duty continues) worth money to the institution!!! You can see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 16:33:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25230; Thu, 4 Apr 96 16:33:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06189; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 16:32:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 16:29:05 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05618; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 16:28:59 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id QAA18242; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 16:25:05 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA9972; Thu, 04 Apr 96 16:28:57 -0800 Message-Id: <9604050028.AA9972@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 3547B951327776F185256302006EA1B4; Thu, 4 Apr 96 16:28:57 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 4 Apr 96 16:24:20 EDT Subject: Re: tp hdd-to-ide caddies-- GOTEM!! X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain $25 each. call erik kurtz at small systems inc. in rtp, nc. he'll charge you for shipping, but he can get as many as you need. 919/932-7884 x22. as soon as the machine answers, hit 22. this is the internal ide caddy. he also sells removable hdd bays. they're key operated caddies that you could put any ide hdd into, including the $25 tp caddy. they sell for $80 & he also has them for internal scsi drives (same price). they're built for raid systems, but i've found them to be great for development and testing. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 20:16:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08796; Thu, 4 Apr 96 20:16:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23400; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 20:15:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 20:12:29 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22713; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 20:12:25 -0500 Received: from [128.125.222.141] (comserv-f-08.usc.edu [128.125.223.80]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) with SMTP id RAA08793; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 17:12:09 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 17:22:57 -0800 To: skat@pacific.net.sg (Sam King ), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: introduction At 7:49 PM 4/4/96, Sam King wrote: >I was wondering, however, if any of you have this problem: > >It seems that my screen experiences color distortions. Some colors in a >pallette tend to go 'bad' sometimes, rather intermittently. My friend who >has the same machine but with an older version of the BIOS never had this >problem, but after he flashed to 3O, he did. Flashing to 3O, needless to >say, did not correct the problem for me, either. Doesn't happen on mine. But then again, I'm still using version "n" of the BIOS. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 21:34:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10867; Thu, 4 Apr 96 21:34:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29611; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 21:32:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 21:30:37 -0500 Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29379; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 21:30:25 -0500 Received: from visago.pacific.net.sg ([203.120.82.12]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA24727 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 10:30:13 +0800 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960405022731.0069e964@pacific.net.sg> X-Sender: skat@pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 10:27:31 +0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: skat@pacific.net.sg (Sam King ) Subject: Linux on thinkpads >i'm going to put linux on a spare hdd to test it on my 755cd. i'm sure it's >tricky & i don't want to bog this list down with every snag i run into. does >anyone know of a source of all or most of the instructions for doing this? >something like the 'thinkpad win95 page,' which worked wonders for me, would be >perfect. > >i'll be doing the nt workstation next, so if you've got that too, i'd >appreciate it. > as it so happens, there is a URL called Linux on the IBM thinkpads, at this address: http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/tp-linux.html it's probably available elsewhere, too. hope that helps sam From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 21:52:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11465; Thu, 4 Apr 96 21:52:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01212; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 21:51:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 21:51:24 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (jokim@TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01127; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 21:51:21 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA20901; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 21:49:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 21:49:34 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Dennis Pantazis Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IdDA & TP701 Success In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 4 Apr 1996, Dennis Pantazis wrote: > On Thu, 4 Apr 1996, John D. Griffith wrote: > > Do these irDa devices require special drivers to operate or are they > > The adaptor does not need any drivers, it connects up to the serial port > and acts as an extension of it. 1 meter range using the power supplied > to serial port. It must be suported in the traqnsfer program like Laplink. > > > Currently, to transfer files, I reboot from NT to DOS and run > > laplink. This is quite inconvenient as I often have lengthy > > optimization calculations running on the NT machine. > > Why not just use a terminal or modem program and send z modem from one to > the other over a null modem cable? The IRDA looks just like a null modem cable. You can use a terminal program with it. You're not limited to Laplink and its ilk. In fact, you're better off testing if it works with a terminal program. That way even if all your settings aren't right, you'll probably still see something to indicate it's working. I tried my JetEye on my TP750 with the IR on my 701 and it didn't work. It works fine with desktop systems, so I suspect the 750's serial port doesn't put out enough power to operate it. Does anyone have the external power supply for the JetEye? The power connector looks like it takes a DC current, but is nonstandard. Anyone know how many volts/amps it takes? -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 4 23:39:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16398; Thu, 4 Apr 96 23:39:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09168; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:37:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:35:51 -0500 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08888; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:35:44 -0500 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA02038 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 22:35:33 -0600 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 4 Apr 96 22:35 CST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 4 Apr 96 22:35 CST X-Sender: runngdog@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad From: Dane Tyson Subject: TP 760CD Opinions? Now that the 760CD has been in the market for several months, I would be very interested in opinions on this machine from some experienced users. I had an order in with my dealer for a 120 MHz 760CD, but I had also expressed an interest in the Toshiba Tecra 700 CT, especially after I had heard about thedifficulities early 760 users were having running Windows '95 (which I use) on their machines. TheTecra became available first, and I have been "testing" it over the past 3 weeks under my dealer's 30-day money back (with no restocking charge) guarantee policy. The Tecra performs well, has a gorgeous screen, and overall a very solid feel. In short, I'm quite satisfied with the computer and have no complaints at all.. Furthermore, although this will be a company-owned machine, it's hard for me to just ignore what has become (since Toshiba's recently announced price cuts) a significant price difference between the two machines (PCs Compleat sells the 120 MHz Tecra with 16 Mb RAM, an optional 4x CD-ROM drive, PCMCIA data/fax modem, and a 1.2 Gb HD for $5,600 vs. over $7000 for a similarly equipped 760. I have until Monday to decide whether to keep the Tecra or return it to the dealer and join the queue waiting for the 760. In the meantime, I would welcome reviews, opinions, comments on the 760 from experienced users, especially from anyone who might have used both the 760 and the Tecra and can do a more direct comparison. Thanks in advance for your comments. Regards, Dane Tyson From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 5 00:00:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17600; Fri, 5 Apr 96 00:00:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10943; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:59:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:58:46 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10707; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:58:43 -0500 Received: from liv-17.rust.net (liv-17.rust.net [206.42.195.117]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13577 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:59:06 -0500 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:59:06 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604050459.XAA13577@Fe3.rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Memory for sale Well my Visiontek memory buy back program turned out to be a joke. An 8 meg sim for a IBM 701C, made by Visiontek, which I had paid almost, if not, $400 back in mid november, Visiontek wants to offer me $40. Boy that's what I call a buy back program, and it was only driven on the weekends. So lets bottom line this, I have one 8 meg sim for a 701 for sale. Operators are on duty now to read your requests... B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three ere the other side he see." Bridgekeeper, Holy Grail =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 5 10:08:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10059; Fri, 5 Apr 96 10:08:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20084; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 10:06:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:59:01 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19167; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:58:58 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.117] (comserv-f-45.usc.edu [128.125.223.117]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id GAA25586; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 06:58:41 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 07:09:26 -0800 To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701 advice At 9:48 AM 4/4/96, Christoph Eyrich wrote: >The size of the 701 is a very convincing factor! No kidding! I have the little leather "portfolio" cover for mine and the colleague that sits next to me always thought it was a daily planner until I opened it up. >But: don't take the DualScan model. I haven't seen the TFT one yet but >compared to the TFT of the 755CX and even to the mono of the old 720 >it's pretty disappointing (the old mono with its 16 gray shades is >much sharper...). Can't comment on the Dual Scan, but my TFT has a very nice, sharp screen. Quite a bit better than the 750C I had. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 5 10:23:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10569; Fri, 5 Apr 96 10:23:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21462; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 10:21:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Fri, 5 Apr 1996 10:20:59 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21350; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 10:20:55 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA23439; Fri, 5 Apr 96 10:19:25 EST Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 10:19:25 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9604051519.AA23439@nile.gnat.com> To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, whittle@usc.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701 advice " Can't comment on the Dual Scan, but my TFT has a very nice, sharp screen. Quite a bit better than the 750C I had." That's interesting, can others comment? The 701 screen looked dimmer to me than the 750C screen ... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 5 11:35:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13346; Fri, 5 Apr 96 11:35:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28114; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 11:33:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Fri, 5 Apr 1996 11:31:44 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27793; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 11:31:39 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA04987; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 02:31:31 +1000 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA20086; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 02:31:29 +1000 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 02:31:27 +1000 (EST) To: Dane Tyson Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: TP 760CD Opinions? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII personally, i don't think it is a good time to buy. 1. toshiba seems to have moved back to the front (where it pretty much was before being displaced by thinkpads). the toshiba i had before my tp755ce as generally a good machine, and when i did have problems the international warrenty service was very good. only thing i would be concerned about in buying another toshiba is compatibility - they seemed to use proprietary stuff more than others, which could create problems - if that is still the case - if you wanted to install linux, for example. 2. as for a tp760, i had one on order (760cd) but ibm could not supply one before a planned period overseas (i am in washington d.c. at the moment), so i dropped the order. i really wasn't that keen on the 760cd, but at the time though i had to spend some funds before the end of february or risk losing them. when it turned out that wasnt the case, i was not sad to have missed getting a 760cd. as it turned out, when i got to the states in early feb and caught up on my reading of the trade papers, all indicators seemed to point to the desireability of postponing purchase. ibm should have some new products shortly, which maybe why they are not in a rush to provide 760's (and end up with lots of disgrunglted customers). specifically, ibm is way behind in putting out a machine with a PCI bus, relative to toshiba et al, and in theory a pci bus should give one the cabability of using a graphics accelorator card (eg matrox with its glint chip) in a docking station, for the beginning of *real* graphics at the notebook level. thus, a notebook that is finally the equivalent of a desktop machine. also, they and others are due out with a low/small form factor model(s) shortly. frankly, i am going to try to put off purchase until november, though i would think by july if not sooner you should be able to get a much better machine from ibm (and, if not, from toshiba). regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 On Thu, 4 Apr 1996, Dane Tyson wrote: > Now that the 760CD has been in the market for several months, I would be > very interested in opinions on this machine from some experienced users. > > I had an order in with my dealer for a 120 MHz 760CD, but I had also > expressed an interest in the Toshiba Tecra 700 CT, especially after I had > heard about thedifficulities early 760 users were having running Windows '95 > (which I use) on their machines. TheTecra became available first, and I > have been "testing" it over the past 3 weeks under my dealer's 30-day money > back (with no restocking charge) guarantee policy. The Tecra performs well, > has a gorgeous screen, and overall a very solid feel. In short, I'm quite > satisfied with the computer and have no complaints at all.. Furthermore, > although this will be a company-owned machine, it's hard for me to just > ignore what has become (since Toshiba's recently announced price cuts) a > significant price difference between the two machines (PCs Compleat sells > the 120 MHz Tecra with 16 Mb RAM, an optional 4x CD-ROM drive, PCMCIA > data/fax modem, and a 1.2 Gb HD for $5,600 vs. over $7000 for a similarly > equipped 760. > > I have until Monday to decide whether to keep the Tecra or return it to the > dealer and join the queue waiting for the 760. In the meantime, I would > welcome reviews, opinions, comments on the 760 from experienced users, > especially from anyone who might have used both the 760 and the Tecra and > can do a more direct comparison. > > Thanks in advance for your comments. > > Regards, > > > Dane Tyson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 5 13:01:52 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16685; Fri, 5 Apr 96 13:01:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05492; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 12:59:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Fri, 5 Apr 1996 12:58:01 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05318; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 12:57:58 -0500 Received: from [128.125.222.109] (comserv-d-37.usc.edu [128.125.222.109]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id JAA14822; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:57:24 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 10:08:12 -0800 To: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar), eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701 advice At 10:19 AM 4/5/96, Robert Dewar wrote: >" Can't comment on the Dual Scan, but my TFT has a very nice, sharp >screen. Quite a bit better than the 750C I had." > >That's interesting, can others comment? The 701 screen looked dimmer to >me than the 750C screen ... I'm responding to my own comment, but I should point out the 701C uses the "BlackMatrix" screen that was not yet available until the 755 series--much better than the 750C (IMO), and I had the opportunity to compare them head-up against each other for 3 weeks before I sold my 750C. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 5 13:12:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17060; Fri, 5 Apr 96 13:12:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06227; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:07:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:05:48 -0500 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06063; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:05:41 -0500 From: Received: from rzstud2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Fri, 5 Apr 1996 20:02:23 +0200 Received: by rzstud2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA022947341; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 20:02:21 +0200 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 20:02:21 +0200 Apparently-To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <"nz11.rz.un.346:05.04.96.18.02.36"@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> To: undisclosed-recipients:;@cs.utk.edu All this talk about what to buy, when to buy it ... I think it's off the point. If you don't buy now but wait 3 months then there will be some other hot thing just around the corner. Always. Buy a computer and when the ink is dry on the cheque it'll be old and the price just a rip-off. I have a harder time finding good software and much more a use for those expensive toys. The difference between the men and the boys is the price of their toys. Joachim Loeblein, ud1b@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de I Fear Nothing. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 5 13:52:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19251; Fri, 5 Apr 96 13:52:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08770; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:49:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:48:52 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08626; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:48:48 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 20:48:45 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701 advice ... To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 20:48:44 +0200 (MES) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Re: DualScan - TFT It's not just sharpness or contrast. There is another point: the DS-screen is far from being reflection-free. Sitting in a bright room and wearing a white (T-)shirt is something like a torture for your eyes... If the 701C is the same kind of Black Matrix as in the 755CX (apart from the resolution) then it's worth the money. Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 5 15:20:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23235; Fri, 5 Apr 96 15:20:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17336; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 15:18:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Fri, 5 Apr 1996 15:15:13 -0500 Received: from indigo.ucdavis.edu (indigo.ucdavis.edu [128.120.7.19]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16841; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 15:15:05 -0500 Received: from indigo.ucdavis.edu by indigo.ucdavis.edu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id MAA15606; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 12:14:07 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 12:14:07 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Jenks To: Robert Dewar Cc: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, whittle@usc.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701 advice In-Reply-To: <9604051519.AA23439@nile.gnat.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 Apr 1996, Robert Dewar wrote: > " Can't comment on the Dual Scan, but my TFT has a very nice, sharp > screen. Quite a bit better than the 750C I had." > > That's interesting, can others comment? The 701 screen looked dimmer to > me than the 750C screen ... I have a 701CS and the main problem I have with the screen is brightness. It looks fine in a dimly lit room, but in a bright office it can be a strain. I think the brightness varies too. When the screen is cold it is noticeably dimmer and has some streaks. It seems to warm up during operation and right now it is warm and it looks great. It looks perfectly "sharp" to me, but I haven't seen the TFT screen. Of course there is trailing of moving images, but since I don't play video games much it just makes the arrow harder to see when using the trackpoint. The screen is a little directional - at 45 degrees it becomes difficult to see. This hasn't been inconvenient for me, though. Considering I saved $450 to $650, I am happy with my decision. The money I saved went into 16MB more memory. - Chris From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 5 16:10:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25877; Fri, 5 Apr 96 16:10:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21361; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 16:07:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Fri, 5 Apr 1996 16:05:52 -0500 Received: from cs.rpi.edu (root@cs.rpi.edu [128.213.1.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21226; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 16:05:49 -0500 From: Received: from juicer.cs.rpi.edu by cs.rpi.edu (5.67a/1.4-RPI-CS-Dept) id AA19801; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 16:06:45 -0500 (bronsons from juicer.cs.rpi.edu) Received: by juicer.cs.rpi.edu (4.1/2.3-RPI-CS-client) id AA07578; Fri, 5 Apr 96 16:04:36 EST Message-Id: <9604052104.AA07578@juicer.cs.rpi.edu> Subject: Panasonic 2X Wanted To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 16:04:35 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm interested in buying Panasonic's 2X PCMCIA CD-ROM drive for my Thinkpad 701C. Anybody out there have one for sale? Audio CD's can be played with this too, right? Does it run off of batteries, AC adaptor, and PCMCIA power? TIA, Scott ----------------------------------------------------- // /\ \\\\ /\ CPT Scott E. Bronson /**\ ==== / \ Graduate Student /*/\*\ || / /\ \ Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute /*/ \*\||/ /**\ \ Troy, New York \*\ /*/\/\ \**/ / \*\/*/ /\ \ \/ / E-mail: bronsons@cs.rpi.edu \**/ /||\ \ / Commercial: (518) 438-6531 \/ / || \ \/ http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~bronsons / || \ _____________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 5 18:17:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04164; Fri, 5 Apr 96 18:17:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01393; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 18:15:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Fri, 5 Apr 1996 18:12:33 -0500 Received: from mary.iia.org (mary.iia.org [198.4.75.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01036; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 18:12:30 -0500 Received: (from richjos@localhost) by mary.iia.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA14896; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 18:11:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 18:11:35 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Joseph Subject: Thinkpad 701Cs Hidden File To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently bought a Thinkpad 701CS which came with OS/2 and Windows 3.11. I deleted the OS/2 using the "button" in the Windows OS/2 group. Looking at my hard disk I find one large file in the root directory that I can't identify and wonder if it's a leftover from OS/2, or what else it's used for. It's a hidden, system, read-only file named "ea data. sf" (with spaces in the name and extension). It's 10Meg so if I don't need it I certainly want to get rid of it, but I've discovered through painful experience that not knowing what it is doesn't mean it shouldn't be there. There's also a small file named"wp root. sf". Can anyone shed some light on what they are? Thanks for any help! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 5 18:27:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04882; Fri, 5 Apr 96 18:27:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02200; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 18:25:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Fri, 5 Apr 1996 18:24:31 -0500 Received: from ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (pantazis@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.62]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02095; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 18:24:29 -0500 Received: (from pantazis@localhost) by ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12ui) id RAA16791; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 17:23:32 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 17:23:30 -0600 (CST) From: Dennis Pantazis To: Richard Joseph Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701Cs Hidden File In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, that is an os/2 file, and you can delete it. You can call the 800 numbe and they will walk you through it, here is what I remember of it.... You will have to use the attrib command on it, attrib -r -s -h ea*.sys and then I think you will have to del ea*?sys to get rid of it, it needs the wildcards to delete it. Good luck, like I said, call the 800 line and they will walk you through it.. On Fri, 5 Apr 1996, Richard Joseph wrote: > I recently bought a Thinkpad 701CS which came with OS/2 and Windows 3.11. > I deleted the OS/2 using the "button" in the Windows OS/2 group. Looking > at my hard disk I find one large file in the root directory that I can't > identify and wonder if it's a leftover from OS/2, or what else it's used > for. It's a hidden, system, read-only file named "ea data. sf" (with > spaces in the name and extension). It's 10Meg so if I don't need it I > certainly want to get rid of it, but I've discovered through painful > experience that not knowing what it is doesn't mean it shouldn't be > there. There's also a small file named"wp root. sf". Can anyone shed some > light on what they are? > > Thanks for any help! > Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Pantazis My opinions are my own, and can not be interpreted as extensions of the Graduate Student in Civil Engineering University's official policies, University of Illinois-Urbana until they decide my opinion's are (the Extended Tour of Duty continues) worth money to the institution!!! You can see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 5 20:19:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07896; Fri, 5 Apr 96 20:19:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09802; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 20:16:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Fri, 5 Apr 1996 20:13:40 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09503; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 20:13:35 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.185] (comserv-g-41.usc.edu [128.125.223.185]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id RAA21298; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 17:13:17 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 17:24:04 -0800 To: Richard Joseph , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701Cs Hidden File At 6:11 PM 4/5/96, Richard Joseph wrote: >I recently bought a Thinkpad 701CS which came with OS/2 and Windows 3.11. >I deleted the OS/2 using the "button" in the Windows OS/2 group. Looking >at my hard disk I find one large file in the root directory that I can't >identify and wonder if it's a leftover from OS/2, or what else it's used >for. It's a hidden, system, read-only file named "ea data. sf" (with >spaces in the name and extension). It's 10Meg so if I don't need it I >certainly want to get rid of it, but I've discovered through painful >experience that not knowing what it is doesn't mean it shouldn't be >there. There's also a small file named"wp root. sf". Can anyone shed some >light on what they are? They're both OS/2 files and assuming you want to get rid of OS/2, can be safely deleted. Since there are spaces in the name, you may have to use wildcards when typing in the "delete" command in DOS. For that matter, you may want to try using the "deltree" command. Its been a long time since my last effort to dump OS/2, but I think this will get you through. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 6 10:22:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25185; Sat, 6 Apr 96 10:22:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11868; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:20:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:13:07 -0500 Received: from merlin.nando.net (root@merlin.nando.net [152.52.2.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11439; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:13:05 -0500 Received: from bessel.nando.net by merlin.nando.net (4.1/davel-nando/dec93) id AA20719; Sat, 6 Apr 96 10:13:29 EST Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:13:11 -0500 (EST) From: Scoundrl To: Thinkpad List Subject: OS2 "deleted" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I got my 755CD, I erased the icon that permitted me to remove OS2 completely. Could someone give me the name of the .exe file or .bat file that sends OS2 into never-never land? Thomas A. Gauldin Here's to the land of the longleaf pine, Raleigh, NC The summerland where the sun doth shine, scoundrl@nando.net Where the weak grow strong and the strong grow great, FAX (919) 676-1404 Here's to Downhome, the Old North State. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 6 10:58:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25818; Sat, 6 Apr 96 10:58:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14222; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:56:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:55:26 -0500 Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se (f91el@kobra.efd.lth.se [130.235.48.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13948; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:55:23 -0500 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@elg-1 [130.235.48.157]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA22027; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 17:55:01 +0200 Message-Id: <199604061555.RAA22027@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: skat@pacific.net.sg (Sam King ) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, f91el@efd.lth.se Subject: Re: Linux on thinkpads In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 05 Apr 1996 10:27:31 +0800." <2.2.32.19960405022731.0069e964@pacific.net.sg> Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 17:54:59 +0200 From: Erik Lindahl I installed it recently on my 750C. The instructions at http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/tp-linxux.html are quite ok. Use the 2.0 compatible bootdisk you find there and follow the instructions regarding "changing the disk when it says uncompressing..." linux.,..." Then you can use the color install disk a(and the rest oiff the disks) from the slackware 3.0 distribution, which makes the install a little easier. If you use a newer kernel (since 1,..3.50 something...) you can use power management too, and . Good luck! Regards, Erik From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 6 18:09:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08593; Sat, 6 Apr 96 18:09:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19124; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 18:07:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sat, 6 Apr 1996 18:04:47 -0500 Received: from public.compusult.nf.ca (root@[192.197.61.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18869; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 18:04:44 -0500 Received: from thinkpad-750c (ts00_p15.remote.nfld.com [198.165.106.112]) by public.compusult.nf.ca (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA04154 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 19:34:28 -0330 Message-Id: <3166F0F1.6AA2@public.compusult.nf.ca> Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 19:02:17 -0330 From: Terry Parrell X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Where is My Audio??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All Tinkpadders! I have a slight problem.... One of my so-called Co-Workers has screwed with my TP750c. I had to re-install Windows 95 now ll is well again except that I no longer have the audio! What happened? I do not really want to dwell to deep into system registry... I tried to re-install the audio for the TP and that didn't help. I am sure that someone in TP land has had to go through this. So, any hints before I start tinkering on my own? Tahnks in Advance... Terry P. 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However, if you have trouble getting through due to the high volume of overseas faxes coming in during the early morning and late night hours, please note that the best time to get through to their fax is Monday-Friday, 9 am - 5 pm EST (New York Time). If you have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or first class mail). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------* REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover page) via 1-page fax to: 718-967-1550 in the USA or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to: Magazine Club Inquiry Center Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept. PO Box 990 Staten Island NY 10312-0990 Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one. :) ---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED. MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <--- Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: Nicola du Plessis. 040696-l Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is Nicola du Plessis and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, Nicola du Plessis From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 6 20:22:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11383; Sat, 6 Apr 96 20:22:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25387; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 20:20:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sat, 6 Apr 1996 20:18:34 -0500 Received: from husc.harvard.edu (root@husc.harvard.edu [140.247.30.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25256; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 20:18:30 -0500 Received: from fas.HARVARD.EDU by husc.harvard.edu with ESMTP id UAA21657 Received: by fas.HARVARD.EDU with id UAA29912 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 20:18:13 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Kim Sender: Daniel Kim Reply-To: Daniel Kim Subject: Re: IdDA & TP701 Success To: Chris Osborn Cc: "John D. Griffith" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I have a recently purchased, demo 701cs 486 DX4. I have been a mac user, and have been so fed up with the quality of their powerbooks that I have decided to go bi-platform, keeping my powermac desktop and purchasing the tp. I haven't loaded any software on it, and from the posts of this group, it sounds like I'll be having a lot of fun putting W95 on. My bios revision is BUTUS3H. Do I have to revise the bios to get the Windows 95 going? Also, I would love to be able to transfer files between the two different platforms without having to use floppies. Sounds like the Jeteye has worked for you, Chris. How much can you actually acomplish with this set-up? Can I use the CD ROM on my Macintosh and transfer stuff to my thinkpad (a Windows 95 upgrade CD, for example)? Can I transfer MS Word documents back and forth this way? What do you mean when you say "It only communicates at 115200, so unless your software (and serial port) can do that, you won't be able to use it." Any warnings before I start configuring this sweet machine, considering my stats? Thank you in advance. Daniel On Thu, 4 Apr 1996, Chris Osborn wrote: > On Apr. 04 96, 07:52 PST, "John D. Griffith" > > > Do these irDa devices require special drivers to operate or are > > they simply hardware devices that would work with any program > > (e.g. kermit) that talks politely with the serial port under NT?? > > The JetEye that I have just connects to the serial port and translates > serial data to/from IrDA. It only communicates at 115200, so unless > your software (and serial port) can do that, you won't be able to > use it. > > But it doesn't require any special drivers to use the device. I > have mine connected to my Mac, and I've been able to communicate > between my ThinkPad and my Mac (not useful, but it was the only > desktop I had that could do 115200). > > --- > Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 > Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 > 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 > MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 7 00:29:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16637; Sun, 7 Apr 96 00:29:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13935; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 00:27:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 00:25:10 -0500 Received: from net1.nw.com.au (root@net1.nw.com.au [203.18.240.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13708; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 00:24:54 -0500 Received: from net43.nw.com.au by net1.nw.com.au with SMTP id AA10817 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 13:18:30 +0800 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 13:18:30 +0800 Message-Id: <199604070518.AA10817@net1.nw.com.au> X-Sender: victor@net1.nw.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: victor@net1.nw.com.au (Victor Annamalay) Subject: Re 'Where's my audio' G'day Terry, I had the same problem a while ago. I spoke to IBM about it and they told me that I had to reinstall the audio through Win 3.x and then reinstall Win 95 (something to do with the difficulty of writing an inf file. Hassle huh! I tend to keep an installation copy of Win 95 on my hard drive for moments like these. As my copy of Win 95 is on CD-Rom so I had to transfer the files using Dos interlink program. It's better than using floppies. Regards from a sandgroper!0 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 7 00:35:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16710; Sun, 7 Apr 96 00:35:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14428; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 00:33:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 00:32:44 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (jokim@TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14340; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 00:32:38 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA24735; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 00:30:30 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 00:30:29 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Daniel Kim Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IdDA & TP701 Success In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 6 Apr 1996, Daniel Kim wrote: > I have a recently purchased, demo 701cs 486 DX4. I have been a mac user, > and have been so fed up with the quality of their powerbooks that I have > decided to go bi-platform, keeping my powermac desktop and purchasing the > tp. I haven't loaded any software on it, and from the posts of this > group, it sounds like I'll be having a lot of fun putting W95 on. Well, most of my problems came from trying to get Win95 to coexist with other OSes (DOS, Linux). The actual install of Win95 went pretty smoothly. It failed to recognize some of my hardware the second time around, but running the "add new hardware" thing-a-ma-jig fixed it. If you're really into tinkering, you can get Executor for DOS or Linux and run System 6 Mac apps on your Thinkpad. You should've seen the look on my (Mac-only) friend's face when he saw a working Mac desktop on my Thinkpad. ;) > My bios revision is BUTUS3H. Do I have to revise the bios to get the > Windows 95 going? ^^ Probably a good idea to flash it up to 3N or 3O. There are a couple fixes for annoying bugs (like the computer coming out of suspend every time you shake it). > Also, I would love to be able to transfer files between the two different > platforms without having to use floppies. Sounds like the Jeteye has > worked for you, Chris. How much can you actually acomplish with this > set-up? Can I use the CD ROM on my Macintosh and transfer stuff to my > thinkpad (a Windows 95 upgrade CD, for example)? Can I transfer MS Word > documents back and forth this way? I'm not Chris, but... The IrDA stuff is just a serial connection, which is good for hardware. I believe the newer Mac powerbooks also support it so it shouldn't be too difficult to find IrDA hardware for your desktop Mac. But because it's just a serial connection, cross-platform software might be a problem. You could use modem programs on the Mac and Thinkpad to transfer files. Things like Laplink or Windows' built-in networking are unlikely to work. TCP/IP would probably work if you got both computers to think the IrDA serial port was a SLIP or PPP connection. You might be able to get NFS running this way. The best solution would be a software package designed to link a Mac to a PC via a serial null-modem cable. I don't know if any exist. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 7 13:05:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13781; Sun, 7 Apr 96 13:05:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03549; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 13:03:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 12:57:50 -0400 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk (mail-a.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03265; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 12:57:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199604071657.MAA03265@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-1.ucl.ac.uk by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:57:42 +0100 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, jokim@tuna.mit.edu From: "Dr. Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ??? Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:57:45 +0000 Let me suggest, as a satisfied customer, the MacConnect software which runs over either ODI or NDIS network interfaces on the Thinkpad. I'm very happy with MacConnect running over the ODI interface presented by PC-NFS 5.1 running over my 3C581 packet driver. This setup gives my little portable the ability to simultaneously support PC-NFS, Windows Socket Interface, DOS packet driver programs (custom netwatch ethernet sniffer / packet analyzer), direct printing to HPLJ-IV network printer, and peer to peer file sharing with Mac systems via Appletalk protocol. If you don't have a local ethernet handy, you could always get a cheap passive hub to pass traffic among your machines. >Message-Id: >On Sat, 6 Apr 1996, Daniel Kim wrote: >If you're really into tinkering, you can get Executor for DOS or Linux >and run System 6 Mac apps on your Thinkpad. You should've seen the >look on my (Mac-only) friend's face when he saw a working Mac desktop >on my Thinkpad. ;) I am not personally eager to buy yet another computer (I own a Thinkpad 750Cs for portable use, DOS/Windows31/Windows95/Linux/SCO-Unix/OS2 boxes at home and office, and I have a bunch of 68xxx and PowerPC Mac's spread around countertops in my office. I would, however, really like to run a Mac desktop on my PC to support molecular biology software which is only available for Mac systems. Could you please provide more information about the capabilities, deficiencies, contact address/phone/fax numbers for the vendor, and pricing for Executor for DOS or Linux? Do they have a System 7/7.5 product in the works? How would you expect this package to perform on a 486SL-33 (750Cs) -- a guess at comparable Mac system performance level would be nice. Has anyone used Executor to develop Newton applications using the Apple NTK? Thanks, AJ Annala Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 7 15:58:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17754; Sun, 7 Apr 96 15:58:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14053; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:57:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:54:22 -0400 Received: from glia.cs.UMD.EDU (glia.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.236]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13774; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:54:19 -0400 Received: by glia.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA14188; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:54:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:54:13 -0400 (EDT) From: hhchou@cs.UMD.EDU (Hui-Hsien Chou) Message-Id: <199604071954.PAA14188@glia.cs.UMD.EDU> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: (owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU) Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996 >>>>> "John" == owner-thinkpad writes: John> a software package designed to link a Mac to a PC via a serial John> null-modem cable. I don't know if any exist. -- John H. Kim Hi, I have heard people talking about serial null-modem cable. I have tried to link the 701C serial port to my Mac serial port without success. I have found in Radio Shack a connector which converts my Mac serial cable at the modem end to attach to the 701C. Although the connector fits, but it seems that the signal lines inside are not matched. Can anybody tell me where to find the so-called null-modem cable for connecting two computer's serial ports directly? Thanks in advance! hh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 7 16:28:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19014; Sun, 7 Apr 96 16:28:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16409; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:26:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:24:57 -0400 Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16174; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:24:54 -0400 Received: from tty114.tc1.nd.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.4/2.2) with SMTP id QAA20661; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604072024.QAA20661@redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Sun, 07 Apr 96 15:25:03 EDT From: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) Reply-To: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Gabriel Ash's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996 On Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:54:13 -0400 (EDT) you wrote: I've just bought a null modem cable from "cables america" 1-800-348-USA4 you need to specify the end connectors (male/female, 9/25 pins), and you will probably need also a female to female convertor. The cable I got works well with C-kermit under OS2, it should work with mac but I never tried it. Supposedly there exist a sort of thing called a "fake null modem cable" which will allow only half-duplex serial connections. Be carefull not to get one. >Hi, I have heard people talking about serial null-modem cable. I have >tried to link the 701C serial port to my Mac serial port without >success. I have found in Radio Shack a connector which converts my Mac >serial cable at the modem end to attach to the 701C. Although the >connector fits, but it seems that the signal lines inside are not >matched. > >Can anybody tell me where to find the so-called null-modem cable for >connecting two computer's serial ports directly? > >Thanks in advance! > >hh > > ------------- Gabriel Ash Notre-Dame ------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 7 17:26:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21957; Sun, 7 Apr 96 17:26:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20339; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:24:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:23:04 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (root@chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20131; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:23:02 -0400 Received: from [128.125.224.203] (comserv-j-59.usc.edu [128.125.224.203]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id OAA27836; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 14:22:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 14:22:24 -0700 To: Daniel Kim , Chris Osborn From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: TP701 & Mac Cc: "John D. Griffith" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu At 8:18 PM 4/6/96, Daniel Kim wrote: >I have a recently purchased, demo 701cs 486 DX4. I have been a mac user, >and have been so fed up with the quality of their powerbooks that I have >decided to go bi-platform, keeping my powermac desktop and purchasing the >tp. I haven't loaded any software on it, and from the posts of this >group, it sounds like I'll be having a lot of fun putting W95 on. My >bios revision is BUTUS3H. > >Do I have to revise the bios to get the Windows 95 going? > >Also, I would love to be able to transfer files between the two different >platforms without having to use floppies. Sounds like the Jeteye has >worked for you, Chris. How much can you actually acomplish with this >set-up? Can I use the CD ROM on my Macintosh and transfer stuff to my >thinkpad (a Windows 95 upgrade CD, for example)? Can I transfer MS Word >documents back and forth this way? What do you mean when you say Actually, for your bi-platform questions I might be of assistance. I've been using a PowerMac in addition to my PC's (one of which is the 701C) for quite some time now. However, I haven't done *anything* with the IR stuff, so I can't help there. External CD-ROM's (SCSI) are a cinch to use on either platform. As far as using the one *inside* your PowerMac...I don't think so, but don't quote me on that. I've never really been able to do such a thing, but then I haven't tried too hard either. IMO, the *BEST* solution for you is to set up a simple Ethernet job. For $40 you can get a transceiver for your Mac, and some amout of $ will get you a PCMCIA Ethernet thing for your 701C. Then, the software you want to buy is "MacLan Connect" by Miramar software in Santa Barbara. Basically, MacLan is Windows software that provides AppleTalk capability to Windows (and you just turn on the various file-sharing stuff built-in to the Mac). Bingo--you can share drives either direction and also printers (PostScript--you can do others with the help of additional software). Only problem is that it doesn't yet support Win '95's long filenames. But its the best solution I've ever used for getting my two platforms to talk to each other--and I went through a *lot* of crap. You might even be able to get the Apple CD-ROM to be used on your PC. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 7 17:26:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21962; Sun, 7 Apr 96 17:26:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20348; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:24:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:23:06 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (root@chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20137; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:23:04 -0400 Received: from [128.125.224.203] (comserv-j-59.usc.edu [128.125.224.203]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id OAA27858; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 14:22:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 14:22:30 -0700 To: "John H. Kim" , Daniel Kim From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: IdDA & TP701 Success Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >be able to get NFS running this way. The best solution would be a >software package designed to link a Mac to a PC via a serial null-modem >cable. I don't know if any exist. There is a decent one called "MacLink Plus" but that sucker is slow as molasses. Good set of file translators though. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 7 17:57:51 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23189; Sun, 7 Apr 96 17:57:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22534; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:54:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:54:10 -0400 Received: from ux7.cso.uiuc.edu (ux7.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22445; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:54:07 -0400 Received: (from pantazis@localhost) by ux7.cso.uiuc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA149314; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:53:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:53:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Dennis Pantazis To: thinkpad Subject: Null Modem Cable... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A null modem cable is basically a modem cable which reverses the send and recieve pins. If two serials were connected with a modem cable they would both try to listen for data on the same line and try to send data on the same line, so pins 2 & 3 of the cable are reversed wrt a modem cable. They are about $10. Most null modem cables or "laplink" cables come with both 9 and 25 pin ends and the other dangles off when one is connected. Kind of a pain it can get cluttery. Get either 9/25 and get an adaptor if needed. If you already have a modem cable you can also get null modem converter for a few dollars. Also get one with person friendly finger/thumb screws.... On ports and the like, I suggest your desktop modem at Com2 and make the null modem at Com4. You don't want it on Com1 'cause that's propaby where your modem is. On the thinkpad, at least the 701, the mouse is unrelated to com-ports, so I suggest that you put the Ir on Com2 and the Modem on Com1 and the serial on Com3 of the multiport. You will have to set the modem speed to the lower of the two machines. If you don't have software like Laplink or TranXit, any modem or terminal sofware will work. You will effectively be 'dialing' one machine from another and recieve the 'call' on the other, so use the faster machine as the one doing the work, and plug the TP to the adaptor to keep things running smoothly. You be sending and recieving files by sz or sendz for sending a file and gz for getting a file. Z-Modem is by far the most effecive if you can do it. Kermit and Y-Modem also work, but I think Z is faster. Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Pantazis My opinions are my own, and can not be interpreted as extensions of the Graduate Student in Civil Engineering University's official policies, University of Illinois-Urbana until they decide my opinion's are (the Extended Tour of Duty continues) worth money to the institution!!! You can see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 7 18:00:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23222; Sun, 7 Apr 96 18:00:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22909; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:58:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:57:29 -0400 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (jokim@TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22818; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:57:21 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA25718; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:55:06 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:55:05 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: "Dr. Alexander J. Annala" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ??? In-Reply-To: <199604071657.MAA03265@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 7 Apr 1996, Dr. Alexander J. Annala wrote: > available for Mac systems. Could you please provide more information > about the capabilities, deficiencies, contact address/phone/fax numbers > for the vendor, and pricing for Executor for DOS or Linux? http://www.ardi.com/ -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 7 18:08:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23319; Sun, 7 Apr 96 18:08:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23777; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:06:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:05:21 -0400 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23608; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:05:15 -0400 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:05:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: TP701 & Mac To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:05:07 +0200 (MES) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Does MacLan run under os2 (Warp)? Have you tried NetPresenz by Peter Lewis? (I'd like to know if you think it's rubbish :-) BTW, here is an alternative: according to c't 4 (1996), pp 376ff, you can use a serial connection (null modem) as the RS-422 of the Mac is compatible with the RS-232 of the PC. If you use a modern rate you can get a transfer rate of up to 230kb/s. - If you haven't got an ethernet card this is a pretty cheap way of connecting Mac and PC. Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > > IMO, the *BEST* solution for you is to set up a simple Ethernet > job. For $40 you can get a transceiver for your Mac, and some amout of $ > will get you a PCMCIA Ethernet thing for your 701C. Then, the software you > want to buy is "MacLan Connect" by Miramar software in Santa Barbara. > > Basically, MacLan is Windows software that provides AppleTalk > capability to Windows (and you just turn on the various file-sharing stuff > built-in to the Mac). Bingo--you can share drives either direction and > also printers (PostScript--you can do others with the help of additional > software). Only problem is that it doesn't yet support Win '95's long > filenames. > > But its the best solution I've ever used for getting my two > platforms to talk to each other--and I went through a *lot* of crap. You > might even be able to get the Apple CD-ROM to be used on your PC. > > > ----- > Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle > USC Graduate School of Business > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 7 18:13:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23803; Sun, 7 Apr 96 18:13:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24393; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:11:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:10:51 -0400 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (jokim@TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24194; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:10:49 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA25786; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:08:36 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:08:35 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Dennis Pantazis Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: Null Modem Cable... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 7 Apr 1996, Dennis Pantazis wrote: > A null modem cable is basically a modem cable which reverses the send > and recieve pins. If two serials were connected with a modem cable they > would both try to listen for data on the same line and try to send data > on the same line, so pins 2 & 3 of the cable are reversed wrt a modem cable. > They are about $10. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's a cheap null modem cable. I don't think that'll work with a Mac. I seem to recall reading that the Mac combines a couple of the PC serial port's pinouts, requiring a fully wired null modem cable for the signals to make sense to the Mac. The "Laplink" cables are fully wired. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 7 18:14:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23813; Sun, 7 Apr 96 18:14:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24436; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:12:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:11:12 -0400 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24257; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:11:10 -0400 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:11:02 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Sigma address? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:11:01 +0200 (MES) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Does anybody know the address of Sigma (hard drives)? Thanks Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 7 18:23:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23903; Sun, 7 Apr 96 18:23:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25310; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:21:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:20:32 -0400 Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu (martigny.ai.mit.edu [18.43.0.152]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25161; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:20:29 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23844; Sun, 7 Apr 96 18:20:17 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Sun, 7 Apr 96 18:20 EDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 7 Apr 96 18:20 EDT From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: (eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Subject: Sigma address? X-Mailer: Edwin [version 3.91, MIT Scheme Release 7.4.2+] From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:11:01 +0200 (MES) Does anybody know the address of Sigma (hard drives)? Thanks Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de 17 Newport Road, PO Box 1790 New London NH 03257-1790 800 446-4525 603 526-6909 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 7 19:31:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25838; Sun, 7 Apr 96 19:31:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28552; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:29:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:27:18 -0400 Received: from ux7.cso.uiuc.edu (ux7.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28383; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:27:15 -0400 Received: (from pantazis@localhost) by ux7.cso.uiuc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA85614; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:27:12 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:27:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Dennis Pantazis To: thinkpad Subject: EMM386 help- Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can someone point me to a decent resourc wrt EMM386, after tying to boost the memory on my desktop, I am stuck. Even though this is the TP group, I thought I would ask here first. Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Pantazis My opinions are my own, and can not be interpreted as extensions of the Graduate Student in Civil Engineering University's official policies, University of Illinois-Urbana until they decide my opinion's are (the Extended Tour of Duty continues) worth money to the institution!!! You can see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 03:02:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15582; Mon, 8 Apr 96 03:02:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26632; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 02:59:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 02:56:42 -0400 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk (mail-a.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26447; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 02:56:38 -0400 Message-Id: <199604080656.CAA26447@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-4.ucl.ac.uk by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 07:56:29 +0100 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Dr. Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ??? Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 06:56:31 +0000 Sorry, that is a 3Com 3C589 (PCMCIA Etherlink III) network adaptor. It comes with ODI & NDIS drivers. You can get the packet driver from their online (dialup) bulletin board system and (internet) ftp site. I bought my 3C589 used for about helf of 3Com's new price. >Let me suggest, as a satisfied customer, the MacConnect software which >runs over either ODI or NDIS network interfaces on the Thinkpad. I'm >very happy with MacConnect running over the ODI interface presented by >PC-NFS 5.1 running over my 3C581 [sic] packet driver. This setup gives >little portable the ability to simultaneously support PC-NFS, Windows >Socket Interface, DOS packet driver programs (custom netwatch ethernet >sniffer / packet analyzer), direct printing to HPLJ-IV network printer, >and peer to peer file sharing with Mac systems via Appletalk protocol. >If you don't have a local ethernet handy, you could always get a cheap >passive hub to pass traffic among your machines. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 04:44:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20207; Mon, 8 Apr 96 04:44:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07423; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 04:42:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 04:39:52 -0400 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07183; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 04:39:50 -0400 From: Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA02643; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 03:37:28 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 03:37:28 -0400 Message-Id: <960408033728_266461532@mail04> Subject: Interesting Free Offer........ Apparently-To: To: undisclosed-recipients:;@cs.utk.edu --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Interesting Free Offer........ 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Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, John Chen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 08:28:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25963; Mon, 8 Apr 96 08:28:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25161; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 08:26:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 08:24:25 -0400 Received: from public.compusult.nf.ca (root@[192.197.61.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24871; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 08:24:18 -0400 Received: from thinkpad-750c (ts01_p14.remote.nfld.com [198.165.106.143]) by public.compusult.nf.ca (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA12386 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:53:34 -0230 Message-Id: <3168FE4F.7BD1@public.compusult.nf.ca> Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 09:23:51 -0230 From: Terry Parrell X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Wheres My Audio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks But I tinkered anyway and I found a Line missing from my System.ini file: [386inh] DEVICE=TPAUDVXD.386 Lo and Behold!!! Beeps and bloops abound... Had to turn it down a little! TP From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 08:45:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26530; Mon, 8 Apr 96 08:45:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26447; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 08:44:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 08:43:37 -0400 Received: from vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26356; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 08:43:34 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id IAA01536; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 08:39:50 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0037; Mon, 08 Apr 96 07:43:40 -0700 Message-Id: <9604081443.AA0037@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 41770C712F196D0B85256306003F81D2; Mon, 8 Apr 96 07:43:38 To: bronsons Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 8 Apr 96 7:39:36 EDT Subject: Re: Panasonic 2X Wanted X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "...I'm interested in buying Panasonic's 2X PCMCIA CD-ROM drive for my Thinkpad 701C. Anybody out there have one for sale? Audio CD's can be played with this too, right? Does it run off of batteries, AC adaptor, and PCMCIA power?..." ~~~~~ i have one of these. it comes with an ac adapter, but will also run on 6 AA batteries. i've never run it on batteries, so i don't know how long they last. it will play audio cd's through a stereo headphone jack with volume control. there is no auxiliary out, so the only way to play audio cd's through the laptop is to run an extra cable from the headphone jack on the drive to the mic input on the thinkpad, which isn't pretty, but it works. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 09:07:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27065; Mon, 8 Apr 96 09:07:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28142; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:05:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:04:39 -0400 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27910; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:04:36 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id GAA06769; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 06:04:31 -0700 Received: from cadence.cadence.com(158.140.98.115) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma828968670.006766; Mon Apr 8 06:04:30 1996 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com (cds9258.cadence.com [158.140.32.4]) by cadence.cadence.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA26863; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 05:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (perley-ppp.cadence.com [158.140.31.147]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id GAA15853; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 06:04:14 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 06:04:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199604081304.GAA15853@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) From: Don Perley Subject: Re: TP701 & Mac Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu At 12:05 AM 4/8/96 +0200, Christoph Eyrich wrote: > >BTW, here is an alternative: according to c't 4 (1996), pp 376ff, you >can use a serial connection (null modem) as the RS-422 of the Mac is >compatible with the RS-232 of the PC. If you use a modern rate you >can get a transfer rate of up to 230kb/s. The highest rate I've seen is 115 kb/s, and that's bits, not bytes, so the overall rate is way lower than, say, a floppy drive. OK for file transfers, but not like you can cross mount the CD-ROM or hard drive and have it be just like a lan. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 09:24:51 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27298; Mon, 8 Apr 96 09:24:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29806; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:22:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:22:11 -0400 Received: from fw2.cummins.com (firewall-user@[205.230.25.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29683; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:22:06 -0400 Received: by fw2.cummins.com; id JAA04643; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:22:03 -0400 Received: from unknown(143.222.15.21) by fw2.cummins.com via smap (V3.1) id xma004618; Mon, 8 Apr 96 09:21:03 -0400 Received: from bubba.cel.cummins.com by ceco1.cummins.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/04Mar96-1128AM) id AA03836; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 08:17:25 -0500 Message-Id: <9604081317.AA03836@ceco1.cummins.com> Received: from borg.cel.cummins.com by bubba.cel.cummins.com with SMTP (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-Domain/OS) id AA27651; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 07:45:57 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 07:45:57 -0500 From: "Julie A. Strietelmeier" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 time/date Is there any reason why my 701 doesn't keep time when running Windows 3.1? But if I just run DOS, everything is fine? Julie From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 12:21:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03163; Mon, 8 Apr 96 12:21:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19249; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:19:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:15:46 -0400 Received: from net1.nw.com.au (root@net1.nw.com.au [203.18.240.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18740; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:15:35 -0400 Received: from net36.nw.com.au by net1.nw.com.au with SMTP id AA18010 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 00:09:14 +0800 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 00:09:14 +0800 Message-Id: <199604081609.AA18010@net1.nw.com.au> X-Sender: victor@net1.nw.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: victor@net1.nw.com.au (Victor Annamalay) Subject: Connecting with Warp Connect I've been trying to configureWarp Connect dialer on my Thinkpad 750C to connect to my CSlip provider as I'd like to use the Web browser, Webexplorer from the OS2 IAK. I'm having difficulty because the IPs are dynamic. I'm using a WINOS2 session right now but Netscape has a few problems eg. title bars and menus don't stay highlighted in a seamless session (works ok in a full-screen session though). I've used a friend's setup on PPP and it's much better than Netscape etc. I'd appreciate any info on how to get Webexplorer working in conjunction with Trumpet Winsock in a WinOS2 session (if possible) or configuring the OS2 Connect dialer to connect in an OS2 session. I've got some info on response files etc. and I've tried writing them but the dialer always hangs after the Login of my name, it stops after the password although my password is in the response file. Regards from DownUnder Victor From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 12:42:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03634; Mon, 8 Apr 96 12:42:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21914; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:39:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:37:43 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@[166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21639; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:37:38 -0400 Received: from express by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0u6JvB-000K7WC; Mon, 8 Apr 96 10:36 MDT Message-Id: X-Sender: lee@rmii.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 22:38:03 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) Subject: LAN Connect Solved I wrote a few weeks ago about being frustrated that after installing a LAN card etc. that I could no longer use the suspend & hibernate functions, plus had to power the machine off and back on every time I connected or disconnected from the LAN... Well after tinkering with dozens of things, I have all the function back. Including being able to connect and disconnect from the LAN (as long as I suspend first). Thanks for all the notes and pointers.... Lee (who just got his new 1.2G hard drive today! ;-) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 14:05:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06705; Mon, 8 Apr 96 14:05:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29494; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:03:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 13:58:00 -0400 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28988; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 13:57:57 -0400 Received: from spike.Kodak.COM ([150.103.113.1]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA07769 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 13:55:23 -0400 Received: by spike.Kodak.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26249; Mon, 8 Apr 96 13:59:28 EDT Date: Mon, 8 Apr 96 13:59:28 EDT From: omnis7@spike.kodak.com (MSD COntractor /MSD/x76475) Message-Id: <9604081759.AA26249@spike.Kodak.COM> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: games & sound on tp750? What sound settings on games such as Doom, Doom2, or Descent, will work on the thinkpad 750? I foolishly thought I was buying sound support when I chose the 750 but so far the sound hardware is only good for running the IBM sound diagnostic routines and the occasional WAV file. Has anyone had any success in getting decent sound with any of the more recent video games? Sean Owens player@envirolink.org From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 14:16:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06995; Mon, 8 Apr 96 14:16:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00315; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:10:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:09:18 -0400 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00153; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:09:14 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA17978; Mon, 8 Apr 96 14:07:45 EDT Date: Mon, 8 Apr 96 14:07:45 EDT From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9604081807.AA17978@nile.gnat.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: wanted 170 meg disks in caddies I could use a few 170's (or even 340's if the price is right) in caddies, to use as backup medium. IBM was selling some 170's off for $65, but they got snaffled up. Let me know by email if you have an old too-small disk that you would like to get rid of. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 14:33:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07470; Mon, 8 Apr 96 14:33:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02101; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:31:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:31:14 -0400 Received: from mail.frontiernet.net (root@mail.frontiernet.net [204.168.13.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01987; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:31:10 -0400 Received: from Frontier.frontiernet.net (usr3-172.frontiernet.net [204.168.13.172]) by mail.frontiernet.net (8.7.4/8.7.2) with SMTP id OAA48432 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:20:10 -0400 Message-Id: <3169841F.12AE@pop3.frontiernet.com> Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 14:24:47 -0700 From: David Gower Organization: Frontier Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: caddies for 701 drives Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wondering if anyone knows where to get caddies for drives so they will fit in the 701. I have a 172MB drive that is just laying around, I'm not even sure if it will fit. It is a model: h2172-A2. Any info on this would be great. Thanks David G. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 14:49:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08156; Mon, 8 Apr 96 14:49:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03829; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:46:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:44:47 -0400 Received: from gsfc.nasa.gov (tinker-toy.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.50.19]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03452; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:44:44 -0400 Received: from neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov by gsfc.nasa.gov (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13945; Mon, 8 Apr 96 14:44:35 -0400 Received: from isobar.gsfc.nasa.gov by neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov via SMTP (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/920502.SGI)for id OAA09971; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:47:46 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960408184742.006a94c0@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: kirk@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 14:47:42 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Robert Kirk Subject: TP750 Power Supply & Win95 PCMCIA Memory Card I'm resubscribing after having been a charter subscriber when it was the TP750 list, and my ancient, 19th Century 750C was new, and learned everything there was to know :-) Now I'm back on with two problems: By mistake (mine, mostly) the IBM warranty folks sent me two replacement power supplies for the 750. One was a duplicate of the original with a largish power supply and a thick cable from the PS to the computer. The other is slightly smaller, with a very thin cable to the computer. Both work and both's electrical specs are about the same. Naturally, I have to send one back to IBM. Any advice which one? The heavier original type seems sturdier, but the light one is handier and it looks like it has a better strain relief. A more momentous problem that I just posed on the newsgroups (where I saw that this list is still active, though it's not just 750 any more): My newly installed Windows 95 does not support the 512K PCMCIA non-flash (SRAM?) memory card I had been using to transport files between my HP 100LX Palmtop and the 750C, although it recognizes that it's in the slot. Win95 has no problem with the Megahertz 28.8 modem in the adjoining slot. Microsoft tech support says they don't support the memory card, and IBM tech support says that I can reinstall their card & socket drivers but that then I'd change the whole computer back to a 16 bit machine. I do have a 5MB flash card I use in the Palmtop, but it's been formatted with Stacker which I don't have on the 750, so haven't tried it. Any solution? ============ A report on the 750C as it chugs into its third year: It's been a very good machine and performs as well as when new. The batteries still give an honest couple of hours. The power cable opened at the strain relief (operator error?) The plastic rear door covering the external connectors broke off. An internal problem that they fixed via 2 way FedEx immediately (Service was excellent.) No problem with the screen or hard drive. I've updated the BIOS, video, etc from their downloads without problem. Bob Kirk kirk@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 14:52:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08384; Mon, 8 Apr 96 14:52:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04097; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:49:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:47:59 -0400 Received: from vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03978; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:47:56 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id OAA27306; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:44:06 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0754; Mon, 08 Apr 96 14:45:44 -0700 Message-Id: <9604082145.AA0754@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 642FB6BF8485BE7F8525630600662D08; Mon, 8 Apr 96 14:45:42 To: David Gower Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 8 Apr 96 14:41:24 EDT Subject: Re: caddies for 701 drives X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "...I was wondering if anyone knows where to get caddies for drives so they will fit in the 701. I have a 172MB drive that is just laying around, I'm not even sure if it will fit. It is a model: h2172-A2. Any info on this would be great. Thanks..." ~~~~~ i haven't looked, but it will probably not be as cheap to play musical caddies with the 701. the smallest drive they put in them is 340mb (or 385mb?) and, as of this week, they were still getting $600+ for them. the 755 cases do *not* fit in the 701, so, until the price of the 340 drops, you'd have to go third party to save any money. i'm sure there's someone in this list who will buy your 172 if it's the enhanced drive (75x compatible). Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 17:51:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13612; Mon, 8 Apr 96 17:51:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23122; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:49:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:45:45 -0400 Received: from mh1.well.com (mh1.well.com [206.15.64.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22699; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:45:38 -0400 Received: from DELL310 (Cust18.Max3.Newark.NJ.MS.UU.NET [153.36.25.18]) by mh1.well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA17356 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:44:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:44:52 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960408162032.409f4640@well.com> X-Sender: dspeed@well.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Dave Speed Subject: Introduction Greetings ! I am a relatively new subscriber to the list, being the relatively new keeper of a 701C w 16 mb ram, a 540 mb HD (CDW was out of the 720's), and a non-functioning ether net PCMCIA card (see next post). This was purchased primarily as a travel tool for my wife who is teaching at a local college. It was not intended as a desktop replacement. We like the 701C's size, screen and snappy performance (given its resources). I found the pointing device surprisingly easy to get used to. I had used a Dell DX4-75 in the past and am much happier with the 701. Our screen has 4 dead pixels which does not please me, but it is not too obtrusive. The bundled software was a pretty weird bag; I've killed most of it already. The lack of removable media backup means that most if not all of this software is useless, as I am apt to trash the drive from time to time (hey - it happens; what do *you* do?). The OS installed on the box will be some Windows 3.x variant for awhile as that is the common one in our work environment at this time. I may try Solaris or Linux when a spare drive becomes available. Calling the OS currently on the box 3.11 is deceptive as *I* took that to mean Windows for Workgroups. This is still giving me fits. IBM tech support says that it will network, but can't tell me how. Obviously, one of the first pressing needs is more drive space. The feeble attempts to push OS/2 (as good as it might be) onto this small drive were nothing short of stupid ! And the lack of *good* instructions to get rid of it remind me of IBM in the 5150 days. I plan to pickup a carrier and wait for a good drive deal to come up. Just from looking in Computer Shopper ads, it looks like most if not all of the high capacity 2.5" drives are 19mm thick. If anyone has a recommendation for a nice leather portfolio for the bare 701 or a source of 12vdc (automotive) power converters, I'd like to hear. Email is fine if it is redundant here. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 17:51:28 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13622; Mon, 8 Apr 96 17:51:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23110; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:49:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:46:02 -0400 Received: from mh1.well.com (mh1.well.com [206.15.64.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22786; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:45:56 -0400 Received: from DELL310 (Cust18.Max3.Newark.NJ.MS.UU.NET [153.36.25.18]) by mh1.well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA17370; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:44:58 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:44:58 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960408162045.39179474@well.com> X-Sender: dspeed@well.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Dave Speed Subject: Ethernet PCMCIA Cards As alluded to in a previous post, I am having difficulties with connection my 701C to my home ether net (10 Base T). I purchased a Simple Technology (ST) PCMCIA Ethernet card from Computer Discount Warehouse (CDW); they said that the card was compatible with the 701C Thinkpad. (And yes, I do believe in the tooth fairy...) First attempt to install did not take even after trying beta drivers (why did I start to feel slightly sick ?) so I swapped the card for a new one. Second card also balked. Probably not the card. I am coming to the conclusion that the problem is in the OS. When I ordered the box, the CDW ad said "Windows 3.11" which I read as "Windows for Workgroups 3.11"; I would have denied the existence of the former, but it does seem to exist. IBM Tech Support states (after several longish consults) that 1. W3.11 is not WFW3.11, and 2. "peer-to-peer networking is not supported under W 3.11, but you can share disk drives and printers"; at this point, I thanked the nice man and rang off. No help here. Back to ST. They were unaware of any problems; the 701C was not on any black list. My tech guy was also unaware of a W3.11 variant. They are looking into it. Basically, I want to be able to use the printer and CD player when at home. Any pointers to the solution appreciated. Email to me and I will post with the solution (hopefully soon). From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 18:12:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14297; Mon, 8 Apr 96 18:12:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25426; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:09:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:08:45 -0400 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (jokim@TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25247; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:08:41 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA27611; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:06:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:06:13 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Dave Speed Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Introduction In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960408162032.409f4640@well.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, Dave Speed wrote: > I am a relatively new subscriber to the list, being the > relatively new keeper of a 701C w 16 mb ram, a 540 mb HD > > The bundled software was a pretty weird bag; I've killed most of > it already. The lack of removable media backup means that most > if not all of this software is useless, as I am apt to trash the > drive from time to time (hey - it happens; what do *you* do?). You mention you might try Linux in the future. What I did was get the Linux RedHat 3.0.3 root/boot diskettes (3 disks). On another Linux box, I modified /etc/service to add the line: ftp 21/tcp and added a copy of ncftp (ftp will do) and tar. My PCMCIA ethernet card was supported by Linux's PCMCIA drivers, so I booted the install disks, switched to a shell, mounted the hard drive, tar'ed everything I wanted, and ftp'ed the tar file to another system. > Just from looking in Computer Shopper ads, it looks like most if not > all of the high capacity 2.5" drives are 19mm thick. Maxtor and at least one other company make a 1GB 12mm 2.5" drive. I haven't heard of anyone trying to use one on their 701 though. > If anyone has a recommendation for a nice leather portfolio for the > bare 701 or a source of 12vdc (automotive) power converters, I'd like > to hear. Email is fine if it is redundant here. Port makes a nice leather portfolio. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 21:10:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22333; Mon, 8 Apr 96 21:10:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08247; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:09:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:06:56 -0400 Received: from glia.cs.UMD.EDU (glia.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.236]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08068; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:06:54 -0400 Received: by glia.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA18314; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:06:52 -0400 (EDT) From: hhchou@cs.UMD.EDU (Hui-Hsien Chou) Message-Id: <199604090106.VAA18314@glia.cs.UMD.EDU> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: (owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU) Subject: 701C modem setup string Hi, there, Just several days ago someone posted a mail detailing how to setup 701C modem to make it more robust during connection. I accidently kill that file. Stupid me. Could anyone kindly send me a copy of the mail if you still have it? Thanks a lot! hh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 8 21:40:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24275; Mon, 8 Apr 96 21:40:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10597; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:38:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:37:33 -0400 Received: from glia.cs.UMD.EDU (glia.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.236]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10462; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:37:29 -0400 Received: by glia.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA18338; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:37:28 -0400 (EDT) From: hhchou@cs.UMD.EDU (Hui-Hsien Chou) Message-Id: <199604090137.VAA18338@glia.cs.UMD.EDU> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C modem setup string I found the article. It is not from the mailing list, but from the comp.sys.laptop newsgroup. I guess it's very helpful to 701 owners, so I repost it to the list. I hope this is not a waste of bandwidth. hh ----- From owen@world.std.com Fri Apr 5 16:19:55 1996 Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops Path: mimsy!cs.umd.edu!haven.umd.edu!purdue!lerc.nasa.gov!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!world!owen From: owen@world.std.com (Rod Owen) Subject: IBM 701C Modem Init Notes Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 18:40:23 GMT Lines: 118 Thanks to good help from the staff at The World (world.std.com), I'm having good luck connecting to their local modems and staying online. Here's what I've found, and I'd like to solicit your comments on it: 1. Emmanuel's suggested init string (at&f1&c1&d2&k3&q5s95=41): The &c1, &d2 are default settings for either the &f or &f1 factory settings, anyway, as can be seen by using at&v to view them. The &k3 is bolded in the manual to show that it's also a default (bidirectional hardware flow control), but it doesn't show up in the at&v display of settings, however \q3 does show up and has the same meaning. Note also that the &q5 sets MNP autoreliable mode, but that's also what the &f1 does. Finally, the s95=41 must be a throwback to some earlier modem of his. Therefore, Emmanuel's string can just as well be at&f1, and that will get you MNP autoreliable mode, but it doesn't solve the problem -- or didn't for me. 2. I haven't verified the manual's claim that "commands you enter must be entirely in uppercase or entirely in lowercase. A command such as At&f will not be recognized by the modem" (page 5), but maybe I've had problems there without realizing it. 3. Someone recently posted a reply to the 701C modem-problem thread to the effect that the 701C's modem supports 19200 bps data mode, but only with other V.32 Terbo modems. This finally made sense to me in working with the staff at World today, and I think it's the answer to _my_ connect problems. World's modems are all the same brands, and I could connect and stay on if I called their Brookline modems, but not their Lowell ones, I think because the Lowell ones were influenced more by peak usage demands. Maybe. I could also connect to CompuServe and to the Microsoft Network without getting thrown off. (However, downloading from CompuServe and perhaps downloading in general is perhaps a different issue.) The diagnosis: user greed. The answer: use %b14400 to limit the speed at which your modem will talk to someone else's. I know that all those connect at 19200 messages are gratifying to see, but either the other guy's modem has trouble maintaining the connection, or my modem has trouble. My init string is now at&f%b14400w1. I use the w1 to tell me what connection details result from the modem's negotiations. 4. I've only had luck setting my port speed to 19200. The manual says "a speed of 19.2Kbps will almost always work with any computer" (page 39). 5. Someone asked, "When the modem says 'Connect 38400/REL, is it kidding?" What's really happening is that this is the speed at which your serial port is willing to talk to your modem. It's not the speed at which your modem will talk to another modem. This is a little more clear when you use the w1 command, as in this capture of my connection: atdt 9349753 CARRIER 14400 /* max per %b14400 command */ PROTOCOL: LAP-M /* result of &f command */ COMPRESSION: V.42BIS /* ditto */ CONNECT 19200 /* my port speed */ If I didn't have the w1 command, I think all I would see would be "CONNECT 19200/REL." 6. Following the suggestions from Tech Support at IBM, I updated my system's BIOS to version 3O by using the sys7013o.exe file that you can find on CompuServe or http://www.pc.ibm.com/files.html. I don't think that it made a difference, and it's kind of scary. You need to download it, run sys7013o to unpack it and put it onto a blank, formatted diskette, read the directions, boot the 701 from the diskette, and, in my case, hold your breath when the screen goes blank and you (I) turn the 701 off and on before you see the message telling you to do so. (It must be a bug in the program, or maybe the 5 minutes I waited wasn't long enough.) 7. I also updated my modem's BIOS with the file bfmod611.exe, which has a basically similar procedure to updating the system BIOS, and I went from Rev A6.09 to Rev A6.11a for my firmware. Again, I wouldn't recommend that you do this, as I'm not sure it made any difference. This file isn't in their general customer area anyway. Well, that's it. The last three (!) times I've connected to World, I've been able to stay on as long as I've wanted. This is quite a change from the two-to-five-minute connection I've had since the machine arrived two weeks ago. Now, if anyone has suggestions for avoiding the "death spiral" when down loading from CompuServe, where the speed goes from 2000 bps down to 250 or so before hanging, I'd really like to know. I don't know if I'll have problems with that now after what I've learned so far. But you never know. I also don't know if my suggestions will produce a reliable Netscape session. If these suggestions work for you, will you please let me know? Thank you. - Rod Owen Rod@acm.org Owen@world.std.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 06:33:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20310; Tue, 9 Apr 96 06:33:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22173; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 06:33:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 06:28:07 -0400 Received: from eros.britain.eu.net (eros.Britain.EU.net [192.91.199.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA21856; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 06:27:53 -0400 Received: from qtlon.quantime.co.uk by eros.britain.eu.net via UKIP with SMTP (PP) id ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:24:42 +0100 Received: from tiree.quantime.co.uk (tiree) by quantime.co.uk; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:21:54 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:26:29 +0100 Received: from lajudd.quantime.co.uk by tiree.quantime.co.uk; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:26:29 +0100 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960409112424.18eff052@tiree.quantime.co.uk> X-Sender: ajudd@tiree.quantime.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Dave Speed From: Alex Judd Subject: Re: Ethernet PCMCIA Cards Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sounds like your OS is the problem. W3.11 does not support the required networking to enable you to map a remote LPT port (needed to use a printer on another machine), or map a network drive (net use ) needed to access your CD-Rom player. Phone up your supplier. Explain your problem. Ship them back the OLD OS. Get WFW3.11. Install all machines in the same workgroup. Use NET-Beui protocol. Should do the trick. Alex At 14:44 08/04/96 -0700, you wrote: > >As alluded to in a previous post, I am having difficulties >with connection my 701C to my home ether net (10 Base T). > >I purchased a Simple Technology (ST) PCMCIA Ethernet card from >Computer Discount Warehouse (CDW); they said that the card was >compatible with the 701C Thinkpad. (And yes, I do believe in >the tooth fairy...) > >First attempt to install did not take even after trying beta >drivers (why did I start to feel slightly sick ?) so I swapped the >card for a new one. Second card also balked. Probably not the >card. > >I am coming to the conclusion that the problem is in the OS. When >I ordered the box, the CDW ad said "Windows 3.11" which I read as >"Windows for Workgroups 3.11"; I would have denied the existence of >the former, but it does seem to exist. > >IBM Tech Support states (after several longish consults) that 1. W3.11 >is not WFW3.11, and 2. "peer-to-peer networking is not supported under >W 3.11, but you can share disk drives and printers"; at this point, I >thanked the nice man and rang off. No help here. > >Back to ST. They were unaware of any problems; the 701C was not on >any black list. My tech guy was also unaware of a W3.11 variant. >They are looking into it. > >Basically, I want to be able to use the printer and CD player when at >home. Any pointers to the solution appreciated. Email to me and I will >post with the solution (hopefully soon). > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 07:07:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21575; Tue, 9 Apr 96 07:07:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23838; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 07:06:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 07:05:44 -0400 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23626; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 07:04:49 -0400 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:01:10 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Re: TP701 & Mac To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:01:00 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text That depends on the Mac. The new ones do up to 230kb/s, older ones, as you say, 115kb/s, and even older ones 57kb/s. Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > > The highest rate I've seen is 115 kb/s, and that's bits, not bytes, so > the overall rate is way lower than, say, a floppy drive. OK for file > transfers, but not like you can cross mount the CD-ROM or hard drive and > have it be just like a lan. > > -Don Perley > perley@cadence.com > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 07:14:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21669; Tue, 9 Apr 96 07:14:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA24378; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 07:13:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 07:13:03 -0400 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA24270; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 07:12:59 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA01695; Tue, 9 Apr 96 07:10:09 EDT Date: Tue, 9 Apr 96 07:10:09 EDT From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9604091110.AA01695@nile.gnat.com> To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 & Mac one thing to remember in looking at speeds of links to MACS is that the system 7 file system is incredibly slow, and is likely to be the bottleneck for file transfers (in fact one advantage of hooking a MAC up to an ethernet is that NFS access is typically MUCH faster than native file access). From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 09:35:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28189; Tue, 9 Apr 96 09:35:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04572; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:33:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:31:18 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (buffingt@chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04402; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:31:14 -0400 Received: (from buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) id GAA28694; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 06:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199604091331.GAA28694@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 05:36:51 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: victor@net1.nw.com.au, tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Connecting with Warp Connect Victor, I had the same problem. I solved it. It has to do with your logon file. Try putting a \r before each command. ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 ----------------------------- AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I would rather die peacefully, in my sleep, like my Grandfather, rather than screaming, and in terror, like his passengers..." From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 10:55:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01719; Tue, 9 Apr 96 10:55:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12207; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:53:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:52:06 -0400 Received: from girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu (girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu [129.106.8.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11933; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:52:02 -0400 Message-Id: <199604091452.KAA11933@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from urol29 (urol29.med.uth.tmc.edu) by girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA083471497; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:51:37 -0500 X-Sender: hprice@girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 09:56:02 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: hprice@girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu (Howard Price) Subject: Re: games & sound on tp750? If the 750 is like the 755CD, the fundamental item is you need to run "mwgames on" before starting the game. This invokes the sound blaster emulation of the mwave dsp. Details are tougher, and vary by the game. > >What sound settings on games such as Doom, Doom2, or Descent, will work on >the thinkpad 750? I foolishly thought I was buying sound support when I >chose the 750 but so far the sound hardware is only good for running the >IBM sound diagnostic routines and the occasional WAV file. Has anyone had >any success in getting decent sound with any of the more recent video games? > >Sean Owens >player@envirolink.org > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 10:55:58 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01726; Tue, 9 Apr 96 10:55:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11957; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:52:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:49:12 -0400 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11599; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:49:04 -0400 From: Received: from rzstud2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 14:26:41 +0200 Received: by rzstud2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA291942797; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 14:26:37 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 14:26:37 +0200 Apparently-To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <"nz11.rz.un.585:09.04.96.12.26.48"@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> To: undisclosed-recipients:;@cs.utk.edu Reply to Julie Strietelmeier concerning WFW 3.11 Time Problems Same for me here, I think it has to do with the suspend mode. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 11:09:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03155; Tue, 9 Apr 96 11:09:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13494; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:07:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:06:33 -0400 Received: from mh1.well.com (mh1.well.com [206.15.64.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13360; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:06:29 -0400 Received: from DELL310 (Cust49.Max3.Newark.NJ.MS.UU.NET [153.36.25.49]) by mh1.well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA22271; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 08:05:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 08:05:49 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960409094118.2adff8a0@well.com> X-Sender: dspeed@well.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Dave Speed Subject: Factory Supplied 701C OS Many thanks to all who emailed me. Yes, thre *is* a Windows 3.11 (W3.11); it was designed for foiling the use of Windoze under OS/2 Warp. It pretends to network,but nobody knew how to make it work. The inelegant solution was to install Windows for Workgroups (WFW3.11). Once this was accomplished (with minimal pain), the network card install went fine and the 701 now enjoys several GB of disk space. Dave - KC6WKI From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 11:32:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04630; Tue, 9 Apr 96 11:32:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15950; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:29:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:28:51 -0400 Received: from pelican.cit.cornell.edu (PELICAN.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [128.253.114.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15761; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:28:47 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by pelican.cit.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03chaos) id AA17469; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:28:37 -0400 Message-Id: <9604091528.AA17469@pelican.cit.cornell.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6 4/21/95 To: player@envirolink.org, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: games & sound on tp750? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 09 Apr 1996 09:56:02 CDT." <199604091452.KAA11933@CS.UTK.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 11:28:37 -0400 From: Bob Cowles BAsicly, you're out of luch with with either a 750 or a 755. They both have software emulation of a soundblaster and what you have to have is hardware emulation. The later Thinkpads moved to hardware emulation 755CE, CD, CX, CV and the 760 sreies all have hardware emulation. Bob Cowles ----------------------- Bob Cowles || "This could come out better if we rdc1@cornell.edu || planned it." Dr. Chaos From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 16:41:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21634; Tue, 9 Apr 96 16:41:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13855; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:30:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:22:38 -0400 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12942; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:22:28 -0400 Received: by cicerone.uunet.ca id <166459-4>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:22:26 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: The Post Office Sender: mailer-daemon@cicerone.uunet.ca Subject: Unresolvable mail address Cc: The Post Office Message-Id: <96Apr9.162226edt.166459-4@cicerone.uunet.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:22:26 -0400 A copy of your message is being returned to you because one or more of the addresses you specified could not be recognized as addresses that are understood by, or reachable from, this system. 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This happens when your envelope address looks like user@site.dom, where site.dom is not a valid hostname. error: unresolvable: ebourne@fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca ------- Original Message follows ------- external rcvdfrom wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca ([192.139.233.5]) with SMTP from to Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA22638 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:21:35 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 7 Apr 1996 11:21:08 U From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinkpad digest for Sun To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996 Today's topics: Where is My Audio??? (Terry Parrell) ---> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 290+ Popular USA Titles (nicola.du.plessis@uni.durban.ac.za) Re: IdDA & TP701 Success (Daniel Kim) Re 'Where's my audio' (Victor Annamalay) Re: IdDA & TP701 Success (John H. Kim) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --960407121501972 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --960407121501972 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 19:02:17 -0330 From: Terry Parrell To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Where is My Audio??? Message-Id: <3166F0F1.6AA2@public.compusult.nf.ca> Hello All Tinkpadders! I have a slight problem.... One of my so-called Co-Workers has screwed with my TP750c. I had to re-install Windows 95 now ll is well again except that I no longer have the audio! What happened? I do not really want to dwell to deep into system registry... I tried to re-install the audio for the TP and that didn't help. I am sure that someone in TP land has had to go through this. So, any hints before I start tinkering on my own? Tahnks in Advance... Terry P. 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Sincerely, Nicola du Plessis ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 20:18:13 -0500 From: Daniel Kim Reply-To: Daniel Kim To: Chris Osborn CC: "John D. Griffith" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IdDA & TP701 Success Message-Id: I have a recently purchased, demo 701cs 486 DX4. I have been a mac user, and have been so fed up with the quality of their powerbooks that I have decided to go bi-platform, keeping my powermac desktop and purchasing the tp. I haven't loaded any software on it, and from the posts of this group, it sounds like I'll be having a lot of fun putting W95 on. My bios revision is BUTUS3H. Do I have to revise the bios to get the Windows 95 going? Also, I would love to be able to transfer files between the two different platforms without having to use floppies. Sounds like the Jeteye has worked for you, Chris. How much can you actually acomplish with this set-up? Can I use the CD ROM on my Macintosh and transfer stuff to my thinkpad (a Windows 95 upgrade CD, for example)? Can I transfer MS Word documents back and forth this way? What do you mean when you say "It only communicates at 115200, so unless your software (and serial port) can do that, you won't be able to use it." Any warnings before I start configuring this sweet machine, considering my stats? Thank you in advance. Daniel On Thu, 4 Apr 1996, Chris Osborn wrote: > On Apr. 04 96, 07:52 PST, "John D. Griffith" > > > Do these irDa devices require special drivers to operate or are > > they simply hardware devices that would work with any program > > (e.g. kermit) that talks politely with the serial port under NT?? > > The JetEye that I have just connects to the serial port and translates > serial data to/from IrDA. It only communicates at 115200, so unless > your software (and serial port) can do that, you won't be able to > use it. > > But it doesn't require any special drivers to use the device. I > have mine connected to my Mac, and I've been able to communicate > between my ThinkPad and my Mac (not useful, but it was the only > desktop I had that could do 115200). > > --- > Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 > Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 > 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 > MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 13:18:30 +0800 From: victor@net1.nw.com.au (Victor Annamalay) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re 'Where's my audio' Message-Id: <199604070518.AA10817@net1.nw.com.au> G'day Terry, I had the same problem a while ago. I spoke to IBM about it and they told me that I had to reinstall the audio through Win 3.x and then reinstall Win 95 (something to do with the difficulty of writing an inf file. Hassle huh! I tend to keep an installation copy of Win 95 on my hard drive for moments like these. As my copy of Win 95 is on CD-Rom so I had to transfer the files using Dos interlink program. It's better than using floppies. Regards from a sandgroper!0 ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 00:30:29 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: Daniel Kim CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IdDA & TP701 Success Message-Id: On Sat, 6 Apr 1996, Daniel Kim wrote: > I have a recently purchased, demo 701cs 486 DX4. I have been a mac user, > and have been so fed up with the quality of their powerbooks that I have > decided to go bi-platform, keeping my powermac desktop and purchasing the > tp. I haven't loaded any software on it, and from the posts of this > group, it sounds like I'll be having a lot of fun putting W95 on. Well, most of my problems came from trying to get Win95 to coexist with other OSes (DOS, Linux). The actual install of Win95 went pretty smoothly. It failed to recognize some of my hardware the second time around, but running the "add new hardware" thing-a-ma-jig fixed it. If you're really into tinkering, you can get Executor for DOS or Linux and run System 6 Mac apps on your Thinkpad. You should've seen the look on my (Mac-only) friend's face when he saw a working Mac desktop on my Thinkpad. ;) > My bios revision is BUTUS3H. Do I have to revise the bios to get the > Windows 95 going? ^^ Probably a good idea to flash it up to 3N or 3O. There are a couple fixes for annoying bugs (like the computer coming out of suspend every time you shake it). > Also, I would love to be able to transfer files between the two different > platforms without having to use floppies. Sounds like the Jeteye has > worked for you, Chris. How much can you actually acomplish with this > set-up? Can I use the CD ROM on my Macintosh and transfer stuff to my > thinkpad (a Windows 95 upgrade CD, for example)? Can I transfer MS Word > documents back and forth this way? I'm not Chris, but... The IrDA stuff is just a serial connection, which is good for hardware. I believe the newer Mac powerbooks also support it so it shouldn't be too difficult to find IrDA hardware for your desktop Mac. But because it's just a serial connection, cross-platform software might be a problem. You could use modem programs on the Mac and Thinkpad to transfer files. Things like Laplink or Windows' built-in networking are unlikely to work. TCP/IP would probably work if you got both computers to think the IrDA serial port was a SLIP or PPP connection. You might be able to get NFS running this way. The best solution would be a software package designed to link a Mac to a PC via a serial null-modem cable. I don't know if any exist. -- John H. 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This happens when your envelope address looks like user@site.dom, where site.dom is not a valid hostname. error: unresolvable: ebourne@fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca ------- Original Message follows ------- external rcvdfrom wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca ([192.139.233.5]) with SMTP from to Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA22584 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:21:00 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 8 Apr 1996 11:32:24 U From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinkpad digest for Mon To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Mon, 08 Apr 1996 !!! Original message was too large. !!! !!! It is contained in the enclosure whose name !!! is the same as the subject of this message. !!! !!! A preview of the message follows: Today's topics: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ??? (Dr. Alexander J. Annala) Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996 (Hui-Hsien Chou) Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996 (Gabriel Ash) TP701 & Mac (Randy Whittle) Re: IdDA & TP701 Success (Randy Whittle) Null Modem Cable... (Dennis Pantazis) Re: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ??? (John H. Kim) TP701 & Mac (Christoph Eyrich) Re: Null Modem Cable... (John H. Kim) Sigma address? (Christoph Eyrich) Sigma address? (Chris Hanson) EMM386 help- (Dennis Pantazis) Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ??? (Dr. Alexander J. Annala) Interesting Free Offer........ (JohnChen00@aol.com) Wheres My Audio (Terry Parrell) Re: Panasonic 2X Wanted (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Re: TP701 & Mac (Don Perley) 701 time/date (Julie A. Strietelmeier) unsubscribe (Dom Virgilio) (Robert Kirk) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --96040812150318579 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --96040812150318579 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 16:57:45 -0000 From: "Dr. Alexander J. Annala" To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU, jokim@tuna.mit.edu Subject: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ??? Message-Id: <199604071657.MAA03265@CS.UTK.EDU> Let me suggest, as a satisfied customer, the MacConnect software which runs over either ODI or NDIS network interfaces on the Thinkpad. I'm very happy with MacConnect running over the ODI interface presented by PC-NFS 5.1 running over my 3C581 packet driver. This setup gives my little portable the ability to simultaneously support PC-NFS, Windows Socket Interface, DOS packet driver programs (custom netwatch ethernet sniffer / packet analyzer), direct printing to HPLJ-IV network printer, and peer to peer file sharing with Mac systems via Appletalk protocol. If you don't have a local ethernet handy, you could always get a cheap passive hub to pass traffic among your machines. >Message-Id: >On Sat, 6 Apr 1996, Daniel Kim wrote: >If you're really into tinkering, you can get Executor for DOS or Linux >and run System 6 Mac apps on your Thinkpad. You should've seen the >look on my (Mac-only) friend's face when he saw a working Mac desktop >on my Thinkpad. ;) I am not personally eager to buy yet another computer (I own a Thinkpad 750Cs for portable use, DOS/Windows31/Windows95/Linux/SCO-Unix/OS2 boxes at home and office, and I have a bunch of 68xxx and PowerPC Mac's spread around countertops in my office. I would, however, really like to run a Mac desktop on my PC to support molecular biology software which is only available for Mac systems. Could you please provide more information about the capabilities, deficiencies, contact address/phone/fax numbers for the vendor, and pricing for Executor for DOS or Linux? Do they have a System 7/7.5 product in the works? How would you expect this package to perform on a 486SL-33 (750Cs) -- a guess at comparable Mac system performance level would be nice. Has anyone used Executor to develop Newton applications using the Apple NTK? Thanks, AJ Annala Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: (owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 15:54:13 -0400 From: hhchou@cs.UMD.EDU (Hui-Hsien Chou) To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996 Message-Id: <199604071954.PAA14188@glia.cs.UMD.EDU> >>>>> "John" == owner-thinkpad writes: John> a software package designed to link a Mac to a PC via a <<<<<< Attached TEXT file named "thinkpad digest for Mon, 08 Apr" follows >>>>>> Received: by qmgate with SMTP;8 Apr 1996 11:26:23 U Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA23059 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:23:37 -0400 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19048; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:16:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:16:32 -0400 From: Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:16:31 -0400 To: thinkpad-digest-recipients:; Subject: thinkpad digest for Mon, 08 Apr 1996 Reply-To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="96040812150318579" Message-Id: Today's topics: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ??? (Dr. Alexander J. Annala) Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996 (Hui-Hsien Chou) Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996 (Gabriel Ash) TP701 & Mac (Randy Whittle) Re: IdDA & TP701 Success (Randy Whittle) Null Modem Cable... (Dennis Pantazis) Re: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ??? (John H. Kim) TP701 & Mac (Christoph Eyrich) Re: Null Modem Cable... (John H. Kim) Sigma address? (Christoph Eyrich) Sigma address? (Chris Hanson) EMM386 help- (Dennis Pantazis) Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ??? (Dr. Alexander J. Annala) Interesting Free Offer........ (JohnChen00@aol.com) Wheres My Audio (Terry Parrell) Re: Panasonic 2X Wanted (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Re: TP701 & Mac (Don Perley) 701 time/date (Julie A. Strietelmeier) unsubscribe (Dom Virgilio) (Robert Kirk) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --96040812150318579 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --96040812150318579 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 16:57:45 -0000 From: "Dr. Alexander J. Annala" To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU, jokim@tuna.mit.edu Subject: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ??? Message-Id: <199604071657.MAA03265@CS.UTK.EDU> Let me suggest, as a satisfied customer, the MacConnect software which runs over either ODI or NDIS network interfaces on the Thinkpad. I'm very happy with MacConnect running over the ODI interface presented by PC-NFS 5.1 running over my 3C581 packet driver. This setup gives my little portable the ability to simultaneously support PC-NFS, Windows Socket Interface, DOS packet driver programs (custom netwatch ethernet sniffer / packet analyzer), direct printing to HPLJ-IV network printer, and peer to peer file sharing with Mac systems via Appletalk protocol. If you don't have a local ethernet handy, you could always get a cheap passive hub to pass traffic among your machines. >Message-Id: >On Sat, 6 Apr 1996, Daniel Kim wrote: >If you're really into tinkering, you can get Executor for DOS or Linux >and run System 6 Mac apps on your Thinkpad. You should've seen the >look on my (Mac-only) friend's face when he saw a working Mac desktop >on my Thinkpad. ;) I am not personally eager to buy yet another computer (I own a Thinkpad 750Cs for portable use, DOS/Windows31/Windows95/Linux/SCO-Unix/OS2 boxes at home and office, and I have a bunch of 68xxx and PowerPC Mac's spread around countertops in my office. I would, however, really like to run a Mac desktop on my PC to support molecular biology software which is only available for Mac systems. Could you please provide more information about the capabilities, deficiencies, contact address/phone/fax numbers for the vendor, and pricing for Executor for DOS or Linux? Do they have a System 7/7.5 product in the works? How would you expect this package to perform on a 486SL-33 (750Cs) -- a guess at comparable Mac system performance level would be nice. Has anyone used Executor to develop Newton applications using the Apple NTK? Thanks, AJ Annala Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: (owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 15:54:13 -0400 From: hhchou@cs.UMD.EDU (Hui-Hsien Chou) To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996 Message-Id: <199604071954.PAA14188@glia.cs.UMD.EDU> >>>>> "John" == owner-thinkpad writes: John> a software package designed to link a Mac to a PC via a serial John> null-modem cable. I don't know if any exist. -- John H. Kim Hi, I have heard people talking about serial null-modem cable. I have tried to link the 701C serial port to my Mac serial port without success. I have found in Radio Shack a connector which converts my Mac serial cable at the modem end to attach to the 701C. Although the connector fits, but it seems that the signal lines inside are not matched. Can anybody tell me where to find the so-called null-modem cable for connecting two computer's serial ports directly? Thanks in advance! hh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 15:25:03 -0400 From: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) Reply-To: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996 Message-Id: <199604072024.QAA20661@redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu> On Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:54:13 -0400 (EDT) you wrote: I've just bought a null modem cable from "cables america" 1-800-348-USA4 you need to specify the end connectors (male/female, 9/25 pins), and you will probably need also a female to female convertor. The cable I got works well with C-kermit under OS2, it should work with mac but I never tried it. Supposedly there exist a sort of thing called a "fake null modem cable" which will allow only half-duplex serial connections. Be carefull not to get one. >Hi, I have heard people talking about serial null-modem cable. I have >tried to link the 701C serial port to my Mac serial port without >success. I have found in Radio Shack a connector which converts my Mac >serial cable at the modem end to attach to the 701C. Although the >connector fits, but it seems that the signal lines inside are not >matched. > >Can anybody tell me where to find the so-called null-modem cable for >connecting two computer's serial ports directly? > >Thanks in advance! > >hh > > ------------- Gabriel Ash Notre-Dame ------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 14:22:24 -0700 From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) To: Daniel Kim , Chris Osborn CC: "John D. Griffith" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701 & Mac Message-Id: At 8:18 PM 4/6/96, Daniel Kim wrote: >I have a recently purchased, demo 701cs 486 DX4. I have been a mac user, >and have been so fed up with the quality of their powerbooks that I have >decided to go bi-platform, keeping my powermac desktop and purchasing the >tp. I haven't loaded any software on it, and from the posts of this >group, it sounds like I'll be having a lot of fun putting W95 on. My >bios revision is BUTUS3H. > >Do I have to revise the bios to get the Windows 95 going? > >Also, I would love to be able to transfer files between the two different >platforms without having to use floppies. Sounds like the Jeteye has >worked for you, Chris. How much can you actually acomplish with this >set-up? Can I use the CD ROM on my Macintosh and transfer stuff to my >thinkpad (a Windows 95 upgrade CD, for example)? Can I transfer MS Word >documents back and forth this way? What do you mean when you say Actually, for your bi-platform questions I might be of assistance. I've been using a PowerMac in addition to my PC's (one of which is the 701C) for quite some time now. However, I haven't done *anything* with the IR stuff, so I can't help there. External CD-ROM's (SCSI) are a cinch to use on either platform. As far as using the one *inside* your PowerMac...I don't think so, but don't quote me on that. I've never really been able to do such a thing, but then I haven't tried too hard either. IMO, the *BEST* solution for you is to set up a simple Ethernet job. For $40 you can get a transceiver for your Mac, and some amout of $ will get you a PCMCIA Ethernet thing for your 701C. Then, the software you want to buy is "MacLan Connect" by Miramar software in Santa Barbara. Basically, MacLan is Windows software that provides AppleTalk capability to Windows (and you just turn on the various file-sharing stuff built-in to the Mac). Bingo--you can share drives either direction and also printers (PostScript--you can do others with the help of additional software). Only problem is that it doesn't yet support Win '95's long filenames. But its the best solution I've ever used for getting my two platforms to talk to each other--and I went through a *lot* of crap. You might even be able to get the Apple CD-ROM to be used on your PC. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 14:22:30 -0700 From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) To: "John H. Kim" , Daniel Kim CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IdDA & TP701 Success Message-Id: >be able to get NFS running this way. The best solution would be a >software package designed to link a Mac to a PC via a serial null-modem >cable. I don't know if any exist. There is a decent one called "MacLink Plus" but that sucker is slow as molasses. Good set of file translators though. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 16:53:51 -0500 From: Dennis Pantazis To: thinkpad Subject: Null Modem Cable... Message-Id: A null modem cable is basically a modem cable which reverses the send and recieve pins. If two serials were connected with a modem cable they would both try to listen for data on the same line and try to send data on the same line, so pins 2 & 3 of the cable are reversed wrt a modem cable. They are about $10. Most null modem cables or "laplink" cables come with both 9 and 25 pin ends and the other dangles off when one is connected. Kind of a pain it can get cluttery. Get either 9/25 and get an adaptor if needed. If you already have a modem cable you can also get null modem converter for a few dollars. Also get one with person friendly finger/thumb screws.... On ports and the like, I suggest your desktop modem at Com2 and make the null modem at Com4. You don't want it on Com1 'cause that's propaby where your modem is. On the thinkpad, at least the 701, the mouse is unrelated to com-ports, so I suggest that you put the Ir on Com2 and the Modem on Com1 and the serial on Com3 of the multiport. You will have to set the modem speed to the lower of the two machines. If you don't have software like Laplink or TranXit, any modem or terminal sofware will work. You will effectively be 'dialing' one machine from another and recieve the 'call' on the other, so use the faster machine as the one doing the work, and plug the TP to the adaptor to keep things running smoothly. You be sending and recieving files by sz or sendz for sending a file and gz for getting a file. Z-Modem is by far the most effecive if you can do it. Kermit and Y-Modem also work, but I think Z is faster. Dennis ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Pantazis My opinions are my own, and can not be interpreted as extensions of the Graduate Student in Civil Engineering University's official policies, University of Illinois-Urbana until they decide my opinion's are (the Extended Tour of Duty continues) worth money to the institution!!! You can see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <199604071657.MAA03265@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 16:55:05 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: "Dr. Alexander J. Annala" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ??? Message-Id: On Sun, 7 Apr 1996, Dr. Alexander J. Annala wrote: > available for Mac systems. Could you please provide more information > about the capabilities, deficiencies, contact address/phone/fax numbers > for the vendor, and pricing for Executor for DOS or Linux? http://www.ardi.com/ -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 00:05:07 +0200 From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701 & Mac Message-Id: Does MacLan run under os2 (Warp)? Have you tried NetPresenz by Peter Lewis? (I'd like to know if you think it's rubbish :-) BTW, here is an alternative: according to c't 4 (1996), pp 376ff, you can use a serial connection (null modem) as the RS-422 of the Mac is compatible with the RS-232 of the PC. If you use a modern rate you can get a transfer rate of up to 230kb/s. - If you haven't got an ethernet card this is a pretty cheap way of connecting Mac and PC. Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > > IMO, the *BEST* solution for you is to set up a simple Ethernet > job. For $40 you can get a transceiver for your Mac, and some amout of $ > will get you a PCMCIA Ethernet thing for your 701C. Then, the software you > want to buy is "MacLan Connect" by Miramar software in Santa Barbara. > > Basically, MacLan is Windows software that provides AppleTalk > capability to Windows (and you just turn on the various file-sharing stuff > built-in to the Mac). Bingo--you can share drives either direction and > also printers (PostScript--you can do others with the help of additional > software). Only problem is that it doesn't yet support Win '95's long > filenames. > > But its the best solution I've ever used for getting my two > platforms to talk to each other--and I went through a *lot* of crap. You > might even be able to get the Apple CD-ROM to be used on your PC. > > > ----- > Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle > USC Graduate School of Business > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 17:08:35 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: Dennis Pantazis CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: Null Modem Cable... Message-Id: On Sun, 7 Apr 1996, Dennis Pantazis wrote: > A null modem cable is basically a modem cable which reverses the send > and recieve pins. If two serials were connected with a modem cable they > would both try to listen for data on the same line and try to send data > on the same line, so pins 2 & 3 of the cable are reversed wrt a modem cable. > They are about $10. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's a cheap null modem cable. I don't think that'll work with a Mac. I seem to recall reading that the Mac combines a couple of the PC serial port's pinouts, requiring a fully wired null modem cable for the signals to make sense to the Mac. The "Laplink" cables are fully wired. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 00:11:01 +0200 From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Sigma address? Message-Id: Does anybody know the address of Sigma (hard drives)? Thanks Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: (eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 18:20:00 -0400 From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Sigma address? Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:11:01 +0200 (MES) Does anybody know the address of Sigma (hard drives)? Thanks Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de 17 Newport Road, PO Box 1790 New London NH 03257-1790 800 446-4525 603 526-6909 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 18:27:11 -0500 From: Dennis Pantazis To: thinkpad Subject: EMM386 help- Message-Id: Can someone point me to a decent resourc wrt EMM386, after tying to boost the memory on my desktop, I am stuck. Even though this is the TP group, I thought I would ask here first. Dennis ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Pantazis My opinions are my own, and can not be interpreted as extensions of the Graduate Student in Civil Engineering University's official policies, University of Illinois-Urbana until they decide my opinion's are (the Extended Tour of Duty continues) worth money to the institution!!! You can see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 06:56:31 -0000 From: "Dr. Alexander J. Annala" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ??? Message-Id: <199604080656.CAA26447@CS.UTK.EDU> Sorry, that is a 3Com 3C589 (PCMCIA Etherlink III) network adaptor. It comes with ODI & NDIS drivers. You can get the packet driver from their online (dialup) bulletin board system and (internet) ftp site. I bought my 3C589 used for about helf of 3Com's new price. >Let me suggest, as a satisfied customer, the MacConnect software which >runs over either ODI or NDIS network interfaces on the Thinkpad. I'm >very happy with MacConnect running over the ODI interface presented by >PC-NFS 5.1 running over my 3C581 [sic] packet driver. This setup gives >little portable the ability to simultaneously support PC-NFS, Windows >Socket Interface, DOS packet driver programs (custom netwatch ethernet >sniffer / packet analyzer), direct printing to HPLJ-IV network printer, >and peer to peer file sharing with Mac systems via Appletalk protocol. >If you don't have a local ethernet handy, you could always get a cheap >passive hub to pass traffic among your machines. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 03:37:28 -0400 From: Subject: Interesting Free Offer........ Message-Id: <960408033728_266461532@mail04> --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Interesting Free Offer........ Date: 96-04-08 02:45:01 EDT From: JohnChen00 To: announcement.service@r1.f62.n8669.z303.fidonet.org -----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. 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Sincerely, John Chen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 09:23:51 -0230 From: Terry Parrell To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Subject: Wheres My Audio Message-Id: <3168FE4F.7BD1@public.compusult.nf.ca> Thanks But I tinkered anyway and I found a Line missing from my System.ini file: [386inh] DEVICE=TPAUDVXD.386 Lo and Behold!!! Beeps and bloops abound... Had to turn it down a little! TP ------------------------------ Date: 08 Apr 1996 07:39:36 -0400 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA To: bronsons CC: tp750 Subject: Re: Panasonic 2X Wanted Message-Id: <9604081443.AA0037@lgate.vmedia.com> "...I'm interested in buying Panasonic's 2X PCMCIA CD-ROM drive for my Thinkpad 701C. Anybody out there have one for sale? Audio CD's can be played with this too, right? Does it run off of batteries, AC adaptor, and PCMCIA power?..." ~~~~~ i have one of these. it comes with an ac adapter, but will also run on 6 AA batteries. i've never run it on batteries, so i don't know how long they last. it will play audio cd's through a stereo headphone jack with volume control. there is no auxiliary out, so the only way to play audio cd's through the laptop is to run an extra cable from the headphone jack on the drive to the mic input on the thinkpad, which isn't pretty, but it works. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 06:04:14 -0700 From: Don Perley To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 & Mac Message-Id: <199604081304.GAA15853@cds9258.cadence.com> At 12:05 AM 4/8/96 +0200, Christoph Eyrich wrote: > >BTW, here is an alternative: according to c't 4 (1996), pp 376ff, you >can use a serial connection (null modem) as the RS-422 of the Mac is >compatible with the RS-232 of the PC. If you use a modern rate you >can get a transfer rate of up to 230kb/s. The highest rate I've seen is 115 kb/s, and that's bits, not bytes, so the overall rate is way lower than, say, a floppy drive. OK for file transfers, but not like you can cross mount the CD-ROM or hard drive and have it be just like a lan. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 07:45:57 -0500 From: "Julie A. Strietelmeier" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 701 time/date Message-Id: <9604081317.AA03836@ceco1.cummins.com> Is there any reason why my 701 doesn't keep time when running Windows 3.1? But if I just run DOS, everything is fine? Julie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 08:21:36 -0700 From: Dom Virgilio To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Message-Id: <199604081521.IAA01154@linda.teleport.com> unsubscribe Please! I have been unable to unsubscribe for weeks. Please! Dom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 12:04:41 -0400 From: Robert Kirk To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960408160441.00698518@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov> subscribe -------------------------------- --96040812150318579-- End of thinkpad Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 16:45:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21790; Tue, 9 Apr 96 16:45:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14441; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:34:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:29:40 -0400 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13684; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:29:23 -0400 Received: by cicerone.uunet.ca id <166460-1>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:29:12 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: The Post Office Sender: mailer-daemon@cicerone.uunet.ca Subject: Unresolvable mail address Cc: The Post Office Message-Id: <96Apr9.162912edt.166460-1@cicerone.uunet.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:29:12 -0400 A copy of your message is being returned to you because one or more of the addresses you specified could not be recognized as addresses that are understood by, or reachable from, this system. 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This happens when your envelope address looks like user@site.dom, where site.dom is not a valid hostname. error: unresolvable: ebourne@fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca ------- Original Message follows ------- external rcvdfrom wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca ([192.139.233.5]) with SMTP from to Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA22901 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:28:26 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 18 Mar 1996 12:47:03 U From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinkpad digest for Mon To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Mon, 18 Mar 1996 !!! Original message was too large. !!! !!! It is contained in the enclosure whose name !!! is the same as the subject of this message. !!! !!! A preview of the message follows: Today's topics: Re: frustrations with thinkpad 701 (Joseph Christie) mwave (US) on the European continent? (Christoph Eyrich) Re: mwave (US) on the European continent? (Daniel Kim) Re: ThinkPad vs. Competition (Randy Whittle) Re: mwave (US) on the European continent? (Randy Whittle) ThinkPads Overseas (Hugh Valliant) Racist newsgroup proposal alert! (Jay.Betrug@mail-e2a-service.gnn.com) ===>> *Fantastic* FREE offer I discovered on the 'net (Shyamala Raperjee) Re: hack, hack, hack... (Ted Frederick) ADMIN: How to handle junk mail? (billy@mix.com) Re: ADMIN: How to handle junk mail? (jesse montrose) Re: mwave (US) on the European continent? (Alex Judd) Re: frustrations with thinkpad 701 (Alex Judd) Re: frustrations with thinkpad 701 (Paul Ferguson/Tessera) RE: Audio CD problems (Michael Verne/VENTANA) subscribe (Dean Burson/CAM/Lotus) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --96031812150213323 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --96031812150213323 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <9603161930.aa25734@paris.ics.uci.edu> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:05:16 +0000 From: christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu CC: Joe Hummel Subject: Re: frustrations with thinkpad 701 Message-Id: <314c6174.1877666@unix.asb.com> On Sat, 16 Mar 1996 19:30:52 -0800, you wrote: >Hi all, perhaps someone can offer some assistance. I just installed >win95 (onto a clean hard disk) on a tp 701, and have the following >questions: > > 1.) floopy doesn't work when multiport II is plugged in; works fine > when standalone. I've tried various interrupt settings and > so forth. Any ideas? > snip ... Mine is set to standalone port i/o irq parallel/disk parallel 2 378 7 multi port parallel/disk parallel 3 278 5 parallel parallel 2 378 7 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 423B78C80FEA5495 http://www.asb.com/usr/christij/index.htm CF64AD5F214797DE ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:32:05 +0100 From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: mwave (US) on the European continent? Message-Id: Is there any problem with using the built-in modem of the TP 701 and the TP 755CX in England or Germany? IBM says you need a telephone kit if you want to use these modems on the German telecom network. But what for? Can I damage the DSP-chip if I connect my machine without usinng this kit? Thanks for your help! Christoph Eyrich PS: I just got a TP701 - it isn t fast compared to the 755CX - but in a way I am more impressed by this wonderful keyboard mechanics than I was by the quality of the new 800x600 TFT screens... So small, it is wonderful.. eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 17:57:44 -0500 From: Daniel Kim To: Christoph Eyrich CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: mwave (US) on the European continent? Message-Id: I am also interested in whether the mwave modem in the TP 701 can handle <<<<<< Attached TEXT file named "thinkpad digest for Mon, 18 Mar" follows >>>>>> Received: by qmgate with SMTP;18 Mar 1996 12:37:52 U Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA22570 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:35:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13504; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:15:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:15:28 -0500 From: Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:15:28 -0500 To: thinkpad-digest-recipients:; Subject: thinkpad digest for Mon, 18 Mar 1996 Reply-To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="96031812150213323" Message-Id: Today's topics: Re: frustrations with thinkpad 701 (Joseph Christie) mwave (US) on the European continent? (Christoph Eyrich) Re: mwave (US) on the European continent? (Daniel Kim) Re: ThinkPad vs. Competition (Randy Whittle) Re: mwave (US) on the European continent? (Randy Whittle) ThinkPads Overseas (Hugh Valliant) Racist newsgroup proposal alert! (Jay.Betrug@mail-e2a-service.gnn.com) ===>> *Fantastic* FREE offer I discovered on the 'net (Shyamala Raperjee) Re: hack, hack, hack... (Ted Frederick) ADMIN: How to handle junk mail? (billy@mix.com) Re: ADMIN: How to handle junk mail? (jesse montrose) Re: mwave (US) on the European continent? (Alex Judd) Re: frustrations with thinkpad 701 (Alex Judd) Re: frustrations with thinkpad 701 (Paul Ferguson/Tessera) RE: Audio CD problems (Michael Verne/VENTANA) subscribe (Dean Burson/CAM/Lotus) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --96031812150213323 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --96031812150213323 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <9603161930.aa25734@paris.ics.uci.edu> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:05:16 +0000 From: christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu CC: Joe Hummel Subject: Re: frustrations with thinkpad 701 Message-Id: <314c6174.1877666@unix.asb.com> On Sat, 16 Mar 1996 19:30:52 -0800, you wrote: >Hi all, perhaps someone can offer some assistance. I just installed >win95 (onto a clean hard disk) on a tp 701, and have the following >questions: > > 1.) floopy doesn't work when multiport II is plugged in; works fine > when standalone. I've tried various interrupt settings and > so forth. Any ideas? > snip ... Mine is set to standalone port i/o irq parallel/disk parallel 2 378 7 multi port parallel/disk parallel 3 278 5 parallel parallel 2 378 7 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 423B78C80FEA5495 http://www.asb.com/usr/christij/index.htm CF64AD5F214797DE ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:32:05 +0100 From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: mwave (US) on the European continent? Message-Id: Is there any problem with using the built-in modem of the TP 701 and the TP 755CX in England or Germany? IBM says you need a telephone kit if you want to use these modems on the German telecom network. But what for? Can I damage the DSP-chip if I connect my machine without usinng this kit? Thanks for your help! Christoph Eyrich PS: I just got a TP701 - it isn t fast compared to the 755CX - but in a way I am more impressed by this wonderful keyboard mechanics than I was by the quality of the new 800x600 TFT screens... So small, it is wonderful.. eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 17:57:44 -0500 From: Daniel Kim To: Christoph Eyrich CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: mwave (US) on the European continent? Message-Id: I am also interested in whether the mwave modem in the TP 701 can handle foreign lines. Will it work in Asia? (as well as Europe?). If it's required, how can I get a telephone kit for compatability? Maybe it would be worthwhile to just get a pc card modem. Also, is the 701's mwave upgradable to 28.8 like the 755? And, one more question, does anybody else have a 701 that seems slightly rounded-- warped I should hesitate to say-- so that it wobbles a bit when flat on the desk? Thanks in advance! What a great machine! Daniel History and Literature Harvard College On Sun, 17 Mar 1996, Christoph Eyrich wrote: > Is there any problem with using the built-in modem of the TP 701 and the > TP 755CX in England or Germany? > > IBM says you need a telephone kit if you want to use these modems on the > German telecom network. But what for? > > Can I damage the DSP-chip if I connect my machine without usinng this kit? > > Thanks for your help! > > > Christoph Eyrich > > > PS: I just got a TP701 - it isn t fast compared to the 755CX - but in a way > I am more impressed by this wonderful keyboard mechanics than I was by the > quality of the new 800x600 TFT screens... So small, it is wonderful.. > > > > eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 18:42:43 -0800 From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) To: Maury Keith Donen , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad vs. Competition Message-Id: At 9:56 PM 3/16/96, Maury Keith Donen wrote: >I am currently doing much research on the future purchase of an IBM >Thinkpad notebook. The models i am considering will probably be in the >760CD class. I recently saw a preview on the new Micro Millennia >Transport notebook. The model had a Pentium 133mhz, 32 mb ram, 1.3GB HD, >quad-speed CD Rom, 11.3 -inch Super VGA display, PCI 64-bit graphics >accelerator, 256KB L2 pipeline burst cache, etc., etc. The interesting >thing is the price is approx $5,799. I would like to know why this model >is less expensive than the IBM ThinkPad High end models, and what you This is easy! The ThinkPads are made by IBM, the other by Micron. That alone should explain to you the real reason for the price difference. ;-) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business "Did you really think you could call up the Devil and ask him to behave?" -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 18:43:16 -0800 From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) To: Daniel Kim , Christoph Eyrich CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: mwave (US) on the European continent? Message-Id: At 5:57 PM 3/17/96, Daniel Kim wrote: >Also, is the 701's mwave upgradable to 28.8 like the 755? As far as I can find out, the answer is No. The 701 has a programmable DSP that handles modem & sound, but it is *not* the IBM "MWave" that is in many of the other thinkpads--limiting it to the existing 14.4K. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business "Did you really think you could call up the Devil and ask him to behave?" -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:18:07 -0500 From: valliant@micomtech.com (Hugh Valliant) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPads Overseas Message-Id: <199603180324.WAA05751@malone.inforamp.net> Recently a client went to England and Scotland on business and he was unable to connect to the telephone system so that he could dial into his ISP and to send and receive faxes. I would appreciate it someone could advise me/us as to how they have their modems set up to handle the European telephone systems. He has an Apex 28.8 cellular fax/modem and an IBM 28.8 fax modem. Are there any particular codes that should go in the initialazion string for the modem. How do people who travel to Europe deal with this problem? What about Asia? Any advise?? Currently, all modem functions work fine in North America. Thanks very much for all responses ====================================================== MI-COM Technology Computer Solutions for Small Business Helping you access and travel the Information Highway Hugh A. Valliant Bus. (416) 726-5355 Fax. (416) 699-3847 Internet valliant@micomtech.com http://www.micomtech.com/~valliant/ ====================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:21:05 -0500 From: Jay.Betrug@mail-e2a-service.gnn.com To: warn-people@fictional.net Subject: Racist newsgroup proposal alert! Message-Id: <199603180321.WAA31955@mail-e2a-service.gnn.com> There is currently a proposal for the newsgroup rec.music.white-power, an attempt by neo-nazi racists to legitimize their activities. It is now in the CFV stage, where anyone with a valid e-mail address may vote. "White power" racist music is not a legitimate form of music deserving of a separate rec.music newsgroup, but rather a political group masquerading as a musical one. And, the rec.* hierarchy is inappropriate because rec.* is for recreational activities, and racism is anything but recreational. But, most importantly, we must show the racists that they will not be granted a mainstream forum in order to promote hate. If you don't want a Usenet where minorities feel unwelcome and uncomfortable, vote NO on rec.music.white-power. Let's make this a crushing defeat for racists. To vote, send e-mail to music-vote@sub-rosa.com and put I vote NO on rec.music.white-power in the body of the message. The actual CFV can be found on news.announce.newsgroups, or by sending a blank e-mail to music-cfv@sub-rosa.com. Voting ends 23:59:59 UTC, 18 Mar 1996, so act quickly! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 21:22:41 +0530 From: shyamala27.raperjee@netaccess.net1.ub.in (Shyamala Raperjee) Reply-To: please.reply.via.fax.or.smail@fax.number.or.smail.address.shown.below To: shyamala27.raperjee@netaccess.net1.ub.in Subject: ===>> *Fantastic* FREE offer I discovered on the 'net Message-Id: -----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info request form below. IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY: Please make sure you return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the actual form below. 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Sincerely, Shyamala Raperjee ps. please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net who you think might be interested in it! It is a great deal! If you join and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for each new person you get to join after you join! If you exceed 25 referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for Christmas, Chanukah or any other occasion. Please be kind enough to mention my name when you join. I will then get a free magazine for a year for referring you. Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 21:46:08 -0800 From: Ted Frederick To: Tom Gauldin CC: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: hack, hack, hack... Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960318054608.006ed520@eudora1.cadence.com> At 09:18 AM 3/16/96 EST, you wrote: >In addition, the tiny plug on the video connector is fine, but the magnet >surrounding the wire (to comply with FCC specs) is cumbersome and a pain in >the rump. Does anyone know what havoc I'd wreak if I did a "magnetectomy?" > It's not a magnet, it's a ferrite jacket to reduce the emmision of EM interference to other devices. It does little to effect the signal being carried on the line. >Finally, the plug going into the "video in" socket has three pins plus the >case itself as a ground, or "common." Has anyone dissected the "S" >video/composite adapter at the other end of the short wire to determine >which wires or pins actually carry the composite signal to the "video in" >port. By knowing this, I could further reduce the size and bulk of the >connection by directly soldering the two conductors from the camera to just >the tiny pin via a short length of coax. Man, you *are* a hack aren't you? Your garage must be a "Who's Who" of electronic assembly and dis-assembly equipment ;] Have fun! -Ted ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 02:30:37 -0500 From: billy@mix.com To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: ADMIN: How to handle junk mail? Message-Id: <827134237.786527.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> > From: shyamala27.raperjee@netaccess.net1.ub.in (Shyamala Raperjee) > Subject: ===>> *Fantastic* FREE offer I discovered on the 'net How about fixing this list so only subscribers can post to it? Anyone one else would just get subscription info back... Just a thought, Billy Y.. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 00:28:08 -0800 From: jesse montrose To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ADMIN: How to handle junk mail? Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960318082808.0074af08@mailhost.hooked.net> At 02:30 AM 3/18/96 -0500, billy@mix.com wrote: >> From: shyamala27.raperjee@netaccess.net1.ub.in (Shyamala Raperjee) >> Subject: ===>> *Fantastic* FREE offer I discovered on the 'net > >How about fixing this list so only subscribers can post to it? >Anyone one else would just get subscription info back... I'm all for that approach, mailing list spam is on the rise, and shows no sign of abating. _____________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.spine.com After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:45:54 +0000 From: Alex Judd To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: mwave (US) on the European continent? Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960318104622.2d676388@tiree.quantime.co.uk> >Is there any problem with using the built-in modem of the TP 701 and the >TP 755CX in England or Germany? Don't know about the 701 but I used my 755CD in Frankfurt last week using Win95 and the MWave modem and had no problems (except for the fact that I had to switch to pulse dialing because of the companies ancient PBX). Oh, and also when dialling from the Hotel Room, the modem wouldn't recognise the dial tone (it's rather strange) so I had to dissable dial tone detecton on the modem. [AT&X= or ATX=) I'm English, and we use 701's and 755's over here (US and UK models) so there should be no problems there. >IBM says you need a telephone kit if you want to use these modems on the >German telecom network. But what for? The German Telecom Telephone connectors are a little strange (they have two lines available on one plug [fax/voice]), but you can buy a US-RJ-11 jack to German Telephone Jack for hardly anything. Then just plug in your modem and dial away. If you have MWave 2.xx it's also worth d/ling the European modem update. > >Can I damage the DSP-chip if I connect my machine without usinng this kit? > I doubt this is possible Alex >Thanks for your help! > > >Christoph Eyrich > > >PS: I just got a TP701 - it isn t fast compared to the 755CX - but in a way >I am more impressed by this wonderful keyboard mechanics than I was by the >quality of the new 800x600 TFT screens... So small, it is wonderful.. > > > >eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:56:59 +0000 From: Alex Judd To: Joe Hummel CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: frustrations with thinkpad 701 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960318105728.0ccf7a86@tiree.quantime.co.uk> > 2.) when I try to use the modem (when running hyperterminal), I select > the internal 701 modem, but then when I say dial it asks me to > "insert the modem". ???? Sounds like you need to install the MWave software (it is not included with WIn95) in order to make your modem work. Either install 2.xx for Win3.11, or look at the MWave site (http://watson.mbb.sfu.ca/) and download 2.10 for Win95. Install this, and you should have a functioning modem. > > 3.) Am I correct in assuming that the serial port and modem port > cannot both share interupt 4? Or can they, as lone as one > is serial_1 and the other is serial_3 -- and I don't try to use > them at the same time? I think you're correct in saying that they can share the same interupt, but cannot be used simultaneously. This is how COM3: and COM4: function (sharing interupts with COM1: and COM2:) > 4.) Is the floppy hot-swappable/hot-pluggable? > I pull mine out and swap it for the CD-Rom while running all the time. Alex Judd Quantime Ltd. >Thanks! I love the machine, but this sure is frustrating... > > - joe hummel > UC-Irvine > > ------------------------------ Date: 18 Mar 1996 08:08:43 From: Paul Ferguson/Tessera To: Joe Hummel CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: frustrations with thinkpad 701 Message-Id: <9603181319.AA7505@notesrv1> You've had several responses to this so far, but one I haven't seen...have you checked the BIOS revision level? If you have not applied any BIOS upgrades to the machine, then the 701 will not have the Plug and Play support. Use Fn-F1 to get into the system information utility, then page down three times to get to the right screen. The latest revision level is BUTUS3O (that's oh, not zero). If you do not have access to the BIOS upgrade, you can get it from the IBM PC web page. When we first migrated to 95 we had all kinds of hinky hardware problems until we got the BIOS upgraded. Hope this helps... Paul Ferguson jhummel @ cy4.ICS.UCI.EDU (Joe Hummel) 03/16/96 07:30 PM To: thinkpad @ cs.utk.edu @ SMTP cc: (bcc: Paul Ferguson/Tessera) Subject: frustrations with thinkpad 701 Hi all, perhaps someone can offer some assistance. I just installed win95 (onto a clean hard disk) on a tp 701, and have the following questions: 1.) floopy doesn't work when multiport II is plugged in; works fine when standalone. I've tried various interrupt settings and so forth. Any ideas? 2.) when I try to use the modem (when running hyperterminal), I select the internal 701 modem, but then when I say dial it asks me to "insert the modem". ???? 3.) Am I correct in assuming that the serial port and modem port cannot both share interupt 4? Or can they, as lone as one is serial_1 and the other is serial_3 -- and I don't try to use them at the same time? 4.) Is the floppy hot-swappable/hot-pluggable? Thanks! I love the machine, but this sure is frustrating... - joe hummel UC-Irvine ------------------------------ Date: 18 Mar 1996 08:59:04 -0400 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA To: "King Randall" CC: tp750 Subject: RE: Audio CD problems Message-Id: <9603181704.AA6268@lgate.vmedia.com> "...have to get a patch coard, run it from the Audio Out on the back of the CDROM, and into the Microphone jack (or Audio In jack) on the Thinkpad, and then give it a go. The audio will probably sound like crap, but it should ..." ~~~~~ if you do this, keep the volume on the cd rom very low & amplify the sound with the thinkpad volume control. you don't want to send an amplified signal into the 'audio in' or 'mic' port. it'll probably never sound as good as just plugging speakers into the cd rom, but that should help. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 ------------------------------ Date: 18 Mar 1996 09:20:53 -0500 From: Dean Burson/CAM/Lotus To: THINKPAD Subject: subscribe Message-Id: <9603181413.AA08777@internet1.lotus.com> -------------------------------- --96031812150213323-- End of thinkpad Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 16:47:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21959; Tue, 9 Apr 96 16:47:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13870; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:30:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:27:45 -0400 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13498; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:27:28 -0400 Received: by cicerone.uunet.ca id <166597-2>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:27:17 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: The Post Office Sender: mailer-daemon@cicerone.uunet.ca Subject: Unresolvable mail address Cc: The Post Office Message-Id: <96Apr9.162717edt.166597-2@cicerone.uunet.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:27:16 -0400 A copy of your message is being returned to you because one or more of the addresses you specified could not be recognized as addresses that are understood by, or reachable from, this system. Typically this means that a UUCP site you are trying to reach does not exist in the UUCP maps, or that a domain name does not exist in the DNS, and therefore cannot receive mail. Please check your addresses for spelling errors, or consult with your local postmaster or system administrator. This is an automatic message. P.S.: In bizarre circumstances you will see the address report below rewritten as site.dom!user@%s. This happens when your envelope address looks like user@site.dom, where site.dom is not a valid hostname. error: unresolvable: ebourne@fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca ------- Original Message follows ------- external rcvdfrom wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca ([192.139.233.5]) with SMTP from to Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA22756 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:26:46 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 19 Mar 1996 12:36:20 U From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinkpad digest for Tue To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Tue, 19 Mar 1996 Today's topics: Re: Audio CD problems (Howard Price) dsp modem (William Ng) isdn throughput (Doug Fairclough) ThinkPad 760ED (Jack Crawford) Re: mwave (US) on the European continent? (Maarten van de Velde) Sound card and modem with IBM TP 755CD ? (Jan Musil) Infra Red Information (Alex Judd) Re: dsp modem (Alex Judd) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --96031912150112123 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --96031912150112123 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:39:52 -0600 From: hprice@girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu (Howard Price) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Audio CD problems Message-Id: <199603181735.MAA15281@CS.UTK.EDU> >To: Paulo Magalhaes >From: hprice@girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu (Howard Price) >Subject: Re: Audio CD problems > >One option is to run the "cdplay" program that came with the machine (at least on the 755CD); at least there's one for use in DOS. This plays audio cd's through the machine's speakers. > >>So... The work load increases and I slip a CD into the CD-ROM hooked to >>my faithful TP. I have a little gizmo that controls the CD player as an >>audio unit; the headphones are connected to the CD unit. Yesterday >>someone walked away with my headphones - no they didn't get stolen, >>just borrowed. Suddenly the urge for some music (no, I ain't telling; >>it's bad enough with the OS wars!) - no problem, my TP750 has audio >>abilities! Er... er... Ok. I confess: work really suffered... I spent >>a few hours trying to figure out how to get sound from the CD unit >>through the built in speaker - all I managed was pure silence! Any >>suggestions? Many thanks in anticipation. >>-- >>Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA >>voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu >> >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:33:10 -0800 From: wmng@berlioz.nsc.com (William Ng) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: dsp modem Message-Id: <9603182033.AA22603@berlioz.nsc.com> Hi folk, I have a question on using the DSP modem on TP755CX under Linux. Is this possible? I recently installed Linux and use LOADLIN to boot it from DOS, but I didn't seem to get any response from ttyS0 and ttyS1 even though the communication software (seyon) said the modem was available. I didn't even get a dial tone. However, from the boot message, the kernel seemed to recongize 0x03f8 and 0x02f8 (irq 4 and 3 respectively) as 16550A. Any assistance is appreicated. Thanks. -William Ng NSC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:03:18 -0800 From: Doug Fairclough To: Thinkpad Subject: isdn throughput Message-Id: can the serial port on a thinkpad (755cx) support isdn throughput rates ? this is 128K bps. i plan on getting a Motorola BitSurfr PRO. has anyone else done this ? doug ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:23:52 -0500 From: jgcrawf@ibm.net (Jack Crawford) Reply-To: jgcrawf@ibm.net (Jack Crawford) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPad 760ED Message-Id: <199603190239.CAA127322@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Could we have some more info about this model please? Specifically, is it a higher powered L/LD or does it include all the communications bells and whistles, as well? Is there any announcement from IBM yet? Regards Jack Jack Crawford jgcrawf@ibm.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 10:32:01 +0100 From: Maarten van de Velde To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: mwave (US) on the European continent? Message-Id: <314E7F11.743@ele.tue.nl> I have a US machine (TP755CE) and I'm having absolute no problems whatsoever over here in the Netherlands. I only had to disable dial-tone detection ('ATX3' if I think - haven't looked at the extra command dialogbox for a long time). For the rest it functions OK, and over here we use the same telephone connectors as in the US. The socket in the wall may be different, but all other connections - to the phone, TAM - are made with those little jacks (RJ-11?). At the moment my only trouble is that right now I do not have a fax program working; for some reason FaxWorks gives an error message, and quits immediatly? I think it worked before I upgraded to MWave 2.00 and 2.10 under Win95. -- TTFN, _/ _/ _/ _/ Maarten _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ 'Adopt, adapt, and improve - M.Python' _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Eindhoven University of Technology: _/ _/ _/ http://www.er.ele.tue.nl/eme/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 14:27:16 +0100 From: jan.musil@sap-ag.de (Jan Musil) Reply-To: jan.musil@sap-ag.de (Jan Musil) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Sound card and modem with IBM TP 755CD ? Message-Id: <199603191327.AA15293@sap-ag.de> Hello, can you help me please. I have new (about 2 months) notebook and I`ve installed linux succesfully, network is working, CD drive is O.K., but I have problems with my sound card. Linux doesn`t find it during startup - I read Sound-HOWTO and did changes to kernel, LILO and so on. But nothing happens. Could you suggest me some docs or howtos about this? I already have official TP FAQ. The last thing it`s doesn`t work is my modem port (build in IBM card). Is there any info about the modem under IBM TP? My configuration: TP 755CD, internal IBM modem, 800 MB disk, 16 MB RAM kernel 1.2.13, IBM pcmcia network card (works with pcmcia-cs-x.x.x), sound card from IBM (looks compatible with SB [in DOS]). Thank you for your attention and suggestions. KrucifiX UniX Honza jan.musil@sap-ag.de ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:23:52 +0000 From: Alex Judd To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu CC: ajudd@quantime.co.uk Subject: Infra Red Information Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960319112417.233fcabe@tiree.quantime.co.uk> There was a discussion recently about using the TP750 etc as a TV remote control. One my travels I thought the following information might be handy. http://falcon.arts.cornell.edu/~dnegro/IR/IR.html - SNIP - Introduction While looking for information about remote controls and how data is encoded in the signals, I noticed that there was a lot of good information, but it seemed to be scattered around in different places on the net. I tried to combine what I found into one big page on IR remote controls. A lot of the information that you will find here is not my own work, but rather work that I have collected. I will try and give credit where credit is due, but I am sorry if I leave anyone out. Alex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 10:49:50 +0000 From: Alex Judd To: wmng@berlioz.nsc.com (William Ng) CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: dsp modem Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960319105015.23c71078@tiree.quantime.co.uk> >I have a question on using the DSP modem on TP755CX under Linux. Is this possible? A number of us over here have tried, but can only get the SB part of the DSP to work in Linux, not the modem. I have a strange feeling it may be to do with the lack of DMA support in Linux, but would be most impressed if anyone has had any luck. Alex -------------------------------- --96031912150112123-- End of thinkpad Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 16:50:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22106; Tue, 9 Apr 96 16:50:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13877; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:30:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:20:34 -0400 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12621; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:20:19 -0400 Received: by cicerone.uunet.ca id <166356-1>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:20:07 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: The Post Office Sender: mailer-daemon@cicerone.uunet.ca Subject: Unresolvable mail address Cc: The Post Office Message-Id: <96Apr9.162007edt.166356-1@cicerone.uunet.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:20:06 -0400 A copy of your message is being returned to you because one or more of the addresses you specified could not be recognized as addresses that are understood by, or reachable from, this system. 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This happens when your envelope address looks like user@site.dom, where site.dom is not a valid hostname. error: unresolvable: ebourne@fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca ------- Original Message follows ------- external rcvdfrom wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca ([192.139.233.5]) with SMTP from to Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA22283 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:15:30 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 9 Apr 1996 11:37:58 U From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinkpad digest for Tue To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Tue, 09 Apr 1996 !!! Original message was too large. !!! !!! It is contained in the enclosure whose name !!! is the same as the subject of this message. !!! !!! A preview of the message follows: Today's topics: Connecting with Warp Connect (Victor Annamalay) LAN Connect Solved (Lee Stewart) games & sound on tp750? (MSD COntractor /MSD/x76475) wanted 170 meg disks in caddies (Robert Dewar) caddies for 701 drives (David Gower) TP750 Power Supply & Win95 PCMCIA Memory Card (Robert Kirk) Re: caddies for 701 drives (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Introduction (Dave Speed) Ethernet PCMCIA Cards (Dave Speed) Re: Introduction (John H. Kim) unsubscribe (Howard Borchew) 701C modem setup string (Hui-Hsien Chou) Re: 701C modem setup string (Hui-Hsien Chou) Re: Ethernet PCMCIA Cards (Alex Judd) Re: TP701 & Mac (Christoph Eyrich) Re: TP701 & Mac (Robert Dewar) Re: Connecting with Warp Connect (Roger J. Buffington) (ud1b@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) Re: games & sound on tp750? (Howard Price) Factory Supplied 701C OS (Dave Speed) Re: games & sound on tp750? (Bob Cowles) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --96040912150220210 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --96040912150220210 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 00:09:14 +0800 From: victor@net1.nw.com.au (Victor Annamalay) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Connecting with Warp Connect Message-Id: <199604081609.AA18010@net1.nw.com.au> I've been trying to configureWarp Connect dialer on my Thinkpad 750C to connect to my CSlip provider as I'd like to use the Web browser, Webexplorer from the OS2 IAK. I'm having difficulty because the IPs are dynamic. I'm using a WINOS2 session right now but Netscape has a few problems eg. title bars and menus don't stay highlighted in a seamless session (works ok in a full-screen session though). I've used a friend's setup on PPP and it's much better than Netscape etc. I'd appreciate any info on how to get Webexplorer working in conjunction with Trumpet Winsock in a WinOS2 session (if possible) or configuring the OS2 Connect dialer to connect in an OS2 session. I've got some info on response files etc. and I've tried writing them but the dialer always hangs after the Login of my name, it stops after the password although my password is in the response file. Regards from DownUnder Victor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 22:38:03 -0600 From: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: LAN Connect Solved Message-Id: I wrote a few weeks ago about being frustrated that after installing a LAN card etc. that I could no longer use the suspend & hibernate functions, plus had to power the machine off and back on every time I connected or disconnected from the LAN... Well after tinkering with dozens of things, I have all the function back. Including being able to connect and disconnect from the LAN (as long as I suspend first). Thanks for all the notes and pointers.... Lee (who just got his new 1.2G hard drive today! ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 13:59:28 -0400 From: omnis7@spike.kodak.com (MSD COntractor /MSD/x76475) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: games & sound on tp750? Message-Id: <9604081759.AA26249@spike.Kodak.COM> What sound settings on games such as Doom, Doom2, or Descent, will work on the thinkpad 750? I foolishly thought I was buying sound support when I chose the 750 but so far the sound hardware is only good for running the IBM sound diagnostic routines and the occasional WAV file. Has anyone had any success in getting decent sound with any of the more recent video games? Sean Owens player@envirolink.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 14:07:45 -0400 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: wanted 170 meg disks <<<<<< Attached TEXT file named "thinkpad digest for Tue, 09 Apr" follows >>>>>> Received: by qmgate with SMTP;9 Apr 1996 11:24:32 U Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA14529 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:21:46 -0400 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20414; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:15:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:15:33 -0400 From: Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:15:32 -0400 To: thinkpad-digest-recipients:; Subject: thinkpad digest for Tue, 09 Apr 1996 Reply-To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="96040912150220210" Message-Id: Today's topics: Connecting with Warp Connect (Victor Annamalay) LAN Connect Solved (Lee Stewart) games & sound on tp750? (MSD COntractor /MSD/x76475) wanted 170 meg disks in caddies (Robert Dewar) caddies for 701 drives (David Gower) TP750 Power Supply & Win95 PCMCIA Memory Card (Robert Kirk) Re: caddies for 701 drives (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Introduction (Dave Speed) Ethernet PCMCIA Cards (Dave Speed) Re: Introduction (John H. Kim) unsubscribe (Howard Borchew) 701C modem setup string (Hui-Hsien Chou) Re: 701C modem setup string (Hui-Hsien Chou) Re: Ethernet PCMCIA Cards (Alex Judd) Re: TP701 & Mac (Christoph Eyrich) Re: TP701 & Mac (Robert Dewar) Re: Connecting with Warp Connect (Roger J. Buffington) (ud1b@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) Re: games & sound on tp750? (Howard Price) Factory Supplied 701C OS (Dave Speed) Re: games & sound on tp750? (Bob Cowles) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --96040912150220210 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --96040912150220210 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 00:09:14 +0800 From: victor@net1.nw.com.au (Victor Annamalay) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Connecting with Warp Connect Message-Id: <199604081609.AA18010@net1.nw.com.au> I've been trying to configureWarp Connect dialer on my Thinkpad 750C to connect to my CSlip provider as I'd like to use the Web browser, Webexplorer from the OS2 IAK. I'm having difficulty because the IPs are dynamic. I'm using a WINOS2 session right now but Netscape has a few problems eg. title bars and menus don't stay highlighted in a seamless session (works ok in a full-screen session though). I've used a friend's setup on PPP and it's much better than Netscape etc. I'd appreciate any info on how to get Webexplorer working in conjunction with Trumpet Winsock in a WinOS2 session (if possible) or configuring the OS2 Connect dialer to connect in an OS2 session. I've got some info on response files etc. and I've tried writing them but the dialer always hangs after the Login of my name, it stops after the password although my password is in the response file. Regards from DownUnder Victor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 22:38:03 -0600 From: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: LAN Connect Solved Message-Id: I wrote a few weeks ago about being frustrated that after installing a LAN card etc. that I could no longer use the suspend & hibernate functions, plus had to power the machine off and back on every time I connected or disconnected from the LAN... Well after tinkering with dozens of things, I have all the function back. Including being able to connect and disconnect from the LAN (as long as I suspend first). Thanks for all the notes and pointers.... Lee (who just got his new 1.2G hard drive today! ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 13:59:28 -0400 From: omnis7@spike.kodak.com (MSD COntractor /MSD/x76475) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: games & sound on tp750? Message-Id: <9604081759.AA26249@spike.Kodak.COM> What sound settings on games such as Doom, Doom2, or Descent, will work on the thinkpad 750? I foolishly thought I was buying sound support when I chose the 750 but so far the sound hardware is only good for running the IBM sound diagnostic routines and the occasional WAV file. Has anyone had any success in getting decent sound with any of the more recent video games? Sean Owens player@envirolink.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 14:07:45 -0400 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: wanted 170 meg disks in caddies Message-Id: <9604081807.AA17978@nile.gnat.com> I could use a few 170's (or even 340's if the price is right) in caddies, to use as backup medium. IBM was selling some 170's off for $65, but they got snaffled up. Let me know by email if you have an old too-small disk that you would like to get rid of. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 14:24:47 -0700 From: David Gower To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: caddies for 701 drives Message-Id: <3169841F.12AE@pop3.frontiernet.com> I was wondering if anyone knows where to get caddies for drives so they will fit in the 701. I have a 172MB drive that is just laying around, I'm not even sure if it will fit. It is a model: h2172-A2. Any info on this would be great. Thanks David G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 14:47:42 -0400 From: Robert Kirk To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP750 Power Supply & Win95 PCMCIA Memory Card Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960408184742.006a94c0@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov> I'm resubscribing after having been a charter subscriber when it was the TP750 list, and my ancient, 19th Century 750C was new, and learned everything there was to know :-) Now I'm back on with two problems: By mistake (mine, mostly) the IBM warranty folks sent me two replacement power supplies for the 750. One was a duplicate of the original with a largish power supply and a thick cable from the PS to the computer. The other is slightly smaller, with a very thin cable to the computer. Both work and both's electrical specs are about the same. Naturally, I have to send one back to IBM. Any advice which one? The heavier original type seems sturdier, but the light one is handier and it looks like it has a better strain relief. A more momentous problem that I just posed on the newsgroups (where I saw that this list is still active, though it's not just 750 any more): My newly installed Windows 95 does not support the 512K PCMCIA non-flash (SRAM?) memory card I had been using to transport files between my HP 100LX Palmtop and the 750C, although it recognizes that it's in the slot. Win95 has no problem with the Megahertz 28.8 modem in the adjoining slot. Microsoft tech support says they don't support the memory card, and IBM tech support says that I can reinstall their card & socket drivers but that then I'd change the whole computer back to a 16 bit machine. I do have a 5MB flash card I use in the Palmtop, but it's been formatted with Stacker which I don't have on the 750, so haven't tried it. Any solution? ============ A report on the 750C as it chugs into its third year: It's been a very good machine and performs as well as when new. The batteries still give an honest couple of hours. The power cable opened at the strain relief (operator error?) The plastic rear door covering the external connectors broke off. An internal problem that they fixed via 2 way FedEx immediately (Service was excellent.) No problem with the screen or hard drive. I've updated the BIOS, video, etc from their downloads without problem. Bob Kirk kirk@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov ------------------------------ Date: 08 Apr 1996 14:41:24 -0400 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA To: David Gower CC: tp750 Subject: Re: caddies for 701 drives Message-Id: <9604082145.AA0754@lgate.vmedia.com> "...I was wondering if anyone knows where to get caddies for drives so they will fit in the 701. I have a 172MB drive that is just laying around, I'm not even sure if it will fit. It is a model: h2172-A2. Any info on this would be great. Thanks..." ~~~~~ i haven't looked, but it will probably not be as cheap to play musical caddies with the 701. the smallest drive they put in them is 340mb (or 385mb?) and, as of this week, they were still getting $600+ for them. the 755 cases do *not* fit in the 701, so, until the price of the 340 drops, you'd have to go third party to save any money. i'm sure there's someone in this list who will buy your 172 if it's the enhanced drive (75x compatible). Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 14:44:52 -0700 From: Dave Speed To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Introduction Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960408162032.409f4640@well.com> Greetings ! I am a relatively new subscriber to the list, being the relatively new keeper of a 701C w 16 mb ram, a 540 mb HD (CDW was out of the 720's), and a non-functioning ether net PCMCIA card (see next post). This was purchased primarily as a travel tool for my wife who is teaching at a local college. It was not intended as a desktop replacement. We like the 701C's size, screen and snappy performance (given its resources). I found the pointing device surprisingly easy to get used to. I had used a Dell DX4-75 in the past and am much happier with the 701. Our screen has 4 dead pixels which does not please me, but it is not too obtrusive. The bundled software was a pretty weird bag; I've killed most of it already. The lack of removable media backup means that most if not all of this software is useless, as I am apt to trash the drive from time to time (hey - it happens; what do *you* do?). The OS installed on the box will be some Windows 3.x variant for awhile as that is the common one in our work environment at this time. I may try Solaris or Linux when a spare drive becomes available. Calling the OS currently on the box 3.11 is deceptive as *I* took that to mean Windows for Workgroups. This is still giving me fits. IBM tech support says that it will network, but can't tell me how. Obviously, one of the first pressing needs is more drive space. The feeble attempts to push OS/2 (as good as it might be) onto this small drive were nothing short of stupid ! And the lack of *good* instructions to get rid of it remind me of IBM in the 5150 days. I plan to pickup a carrier and wait for a good drive deal to come up. Just from looking in Computer Shopper ads, it looks like most if not all of the high capacity 2.5" drives are 19mm thick. If anyone has a recommendation for a nice leather portfolio for the bare 701 or a source of 12vdc (automotive) power converters, I'd like to hear. Email is fine if it is redundant here. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 14:44:58 -0700 From: Dave Speed To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Ethernet PCMCIA Cards Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960408162045.39179474@well.com> As alluded to in a previous post, I am having difficulties with connection my 701C to my home ether net (10 Base T). I purchased a Simple Technology (ST) PCMCIA Ethernet card from Computer Discount Warehouse (CDW); they said that the card was compatible with the 701C Thinkpad. (And yes, I do believe in the tooth fairy...) First attempt to install did not take even after trying beta drivers (why did I start to feel slightly sick ?) so I swapped the card for a new one. Second card also balked. Probably not the card. I am coming to the conclusion that the problem is in the OS. When I ordered the box, the CDW ad said "Windows 3.11" which I read as "Windows for Workgroups 3.11"; I would have denied the existence of the former, but it does seem to exist. IBM Tech Support states (after several longish consults) that 1. W3.11 is not WFW3.11, and 2. "peer-to-peer networking is not supported under W 3.11, but you can share disk drives and printers"; at this point, I thanked the nice man and rang off. No help here. Back to ST. They were unaware of any problems; the 701C was not on any black list. My tech guy was also unaware of a W3.11 variant. They are looking into it. Basically, I want to be able to use the printer and CD player when at home. Any pointers to the solution appreciated. Email to me and I will post with the solution (hopefully soon). ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960408162032.409f4640@well.com> Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 17:06:13 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: Dave Speed CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Introduction Message-Id: On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, Dave Speed wrote: > I am a relatively new subscriber to the list, being the > relatively new keeper of a 701C w 16 mb ram, a 540 mb HD > > The bundled software was a pretty weird bag; I've killed most of > it already. The lack of removable media backup means that most > if not all of this software is useless, as I am apt to trash the > drive from time to time (hey - it happens; what do *you* do?). You mention you might try Linux in the future. What I did was get the Linux RedHat 3.0.3 root/boot diskettes (3 disks). On another Linux box, I modified /etc/service to add the line: ftp 21/tcp and added a copy of ncftp (ftp will do) and tar. My PCMCIA ethernet card was supported by Linux's PCMCIA drivers, so I booted the install disks, switched to a shell, mounted the hard drive, tar'ed everything I wanted, and ftp'ed the tar file to another system. > Just from looking in Computer Shopper ads, it looks like most if not > all of the high capacity 2.5" drives are 19mm thick. Maxtor and at least one other company make a 1GB 12mm 2.5" drive. I haven't heard of anyone trying to use one on their 701 though. > If anyone has a recommendation for a nice leather portfolio for the > bare 701 or a source of 12vdc (automotive) power converters, I'd like > to hear. Email is fine if it is redundant here. Port makes a nice leather portfolio. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 16:44:59 -0700 From: Howard Borchew To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Message-Id: <3169A4FB.59ED@loc100.tandem.com> unsubscribe borchew@loc100.tandem.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: (owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 21:06:52 -0400 From: hhchou@cs.UMD.EDU (Hui-Hsien Chou) To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 701C modem setup string Message-Id: <199604090106.VAA18314@glia.cs.UMD.EDU> Hi, there, Just several days ago someone posted a mail detailing how to setup 701C modem to make it more robust during connection. I accidently kill that file. Stupid me. Could anyone kindly send me a copy of the mail if you still have it? Thanks a lot! hh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 21:37:28 -0400 From: hhchou@cs.UMD.EDU (Hui-Hsien Chou) To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 701C modem setup string Message-Id: <199604090137.VAA18338@glia.cs.UMD.EDU> I found the article. It is not from the mailing list, but from the comp.sys.laptop newsgroup. I guess it's very helpful to 701 owners, so I repost it to the list. I hope this is not a waste of bandwidth. hh ----- From owen@world.std.com Fri Apr 5 16:19:55 1996 Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops Path: mimsy!cs.umd.edu!haven.umd.edu!purdue!lerc.nasa.gov!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!world!owen From: owen@world.std.com (Rod Owen) Subject: IBM 701C Modem Init Notes Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 18:40:23 GMT Lines: 118 Thanks to good help from the staff at The World (world.std.com), I'm having good luck connecting to their local modems and staying online. Here's what I've found, and I'd like to solicit your comments on it: 1. Emmanuel's suggested init string (at&f1&c1&d2&k3&q5s95=41): The &c1, &d2 are default settings for either the &f or &f1 factory settings, anyway, as can be seen by using at&v to view them. The &k3 is bolded in the manual to show that it's also a default (bidirectional hardware flow control), but it doesn't show up in the at&v display of settings, however \q3 does show up and has the same meaning. Note also that the &q5 sets MNP autoreliable mode, but that's also what the &f1 does. Finally, the s95=41 must be a throwback to some earlier modem of his. Therefore, Emmanuel's string can just as well be at&f1, and that will get you MNP autoreliable mode, but it doesn't solve the problem -- or didn't for me. 2. I haven't verified the manual's claim that "commands you enter must be entirely in uppercase or entirely in lowercase. A command such as At&f will not be recognized by the modem" (page 5), but maybe I've had problems there without realizing it. 3. Someone recently posted a reply to the 701C modem-problem thread to the effect that the 701C's modem supports 19200 bps data mode, but only with other V.32 Terbo modems. This finally made sense to me in working with the staff at World today, and I think it's the answer to _my_ connect problems. World's modems are all the same brands, and I could connect and stay on if I called their Brookline modems, but not their Lowell ones, I think because the Lowell ones were influenced more by peak usage demands. Maybe. I could also connect to CompuServe and to the Microsoft Network without getting thrown off. (However, downloading from CompuServe and perhaps downloading in general is perhaps a different issue.) The diagnosis: user greed. The answer: use %b14400 to limit the speed at which your modem will talk to someone else's. I know that all those connect at 19200 messages are gratifying to see, but either the other guy's modem has trouble maintaining the connection, or my modem has trouble. My init string is now at&f%b14400w1. I use the w1 to tell me what connection details result from the modem's negotiations. 4. I've only had luck setting my port speed to 19200. The manual says "a speed of 19.2Kbps will almost always work with any computer" (page 39). 5. Someone asked, "When the modem says 'Connect 38400/REL, is it kidding?" What's really happening is that this is the speed at which your serial port is willing to talk to your modem. It's not the speed at which your modem will talk to another modem. This is a little more clear when you use the w1 command, as in this capture of my connection: atdt 9349753 CARRIER 14400 /* max per %b14400 command */ PROTOCOL: LAP-M /* result of &f command */ COMPRESSION: V.42BIS /* ditto */ CONNECT 19200 /* my port speed */ If I didn't have the w1 command, I think all I would see would be "CONNECT 19200/REL." 6. Following the suggestions from Tech Support at IBM, I updated my system's BIOS to version 3O by using the sys7013o.exe file that you can find on CompuServe or http://www.pc.ibm.com/files.html. I don't think that it made a difference, and it's kind of scary. You need to download it, run sys7013o to unpack it and put it onto a blank, formatted diskette, read the directions, boot the 701 from the diskette, and, in my case, hold your breath when the screen goes blank and you (I) turn the 701 off and on before you see the message telling you to do so. (It must be a bug in the program, or maybe the 5 minutes I waited wasn't long enough.) 7. I also updated my modem's BIOS with the file bfmod611.exe, which has a basically similar procedure to updating the system BIOS, and I went from Rev A6.09 to Rev A6.11a for my firmware. Again, I wouldn't recommend that you do this, as I'm not sure it made any difference. This file isn't in their general customer area anyway. Well, that's it. The last three (!) times I've connected to World, I've been able to stay on as long as I've wanted. This is quite a change from the two-to-five-minute connection I've had since the machine arrived two weeks ago. Now, if anyone has suggestions for avoiding the "death spiral" when down loading from CompuServe, where the speed goes from 2000 bps down to 250 or so before hanging, I'd really like to know. I don't know if I'll have problems with that now after what I've learned so far. But you never know. I also don't know if my suggestions will produce a reliable Netscape session. If these suggestions work for you, will you please let me know? Thank you. - Rod Owen Rod@acm.org Owen@world.std.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 11:26:29 +0100 From: Alex Judd To: Dave Speed CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Ethernet PCMCIA Cards Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960409112424.18eff052@tiree.quantime.co.uk> Sounds like your OS is the problem. W3.11 does not support the required networking to enable you to map a remote LPT port (needed to use a printer on another machine), or map a network drive (net use ) needed to access your CD-Rom player. Phone up your supplier. Explain your problem. Ship them back the OLD OS. Get WFW3.11. Install all machines in the same workgroup. Use NET-Beui protocol. Should do the trick. Alex At 14:44 08/04/96 -0700, you wrote: > >As alluded to in a previous post, I am having difficulties >with connection my 701C to my home ether net (10 Base T). > >I purchased a Simple Technology (ST) PCMCIA Ethernet card from >Computer Discount Warehouse (CDW); they said that the card was >compatible with the 701C Thinkpad. (And yes, I do believe in >the tooth fairy...) > >First attempt to install did not take even after trying beta >drivers (why did I start to feel slightly sick ?) so I swapped the >card for a new one. Second card also balked. Probably not the >card. > >I am coming to the conclusion that the problem is in the OS. When >I ordered the box, the CDW ad said "Windows 3.11" which I read as >"Windows for Workgroups 3.11"; I would have denied the existence of >the former, but it does seem to exist. > >IBM Tech Support states (after several longish consults) that 1. W3.11 >is not WFW3.11, and 2. "peer-to-peer networking is not supported under >W 3.11, but you can share disk drives and printers"; at this point, I >thanked the nice man and rang off. No help here. > >Back to ST. They were unaware of any problems; the 701C was not on >any black list. My tech guy was also unaware of a W3.11 variant. >They are looking into it. > >Basically, I want to be able to use the printer and CD player when at >home. Any pointers to the solution appreciated. Email to me and I will >post with the solution (hopefully soon). > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 12:01:00 +0100 From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 & Mac Message-Id: That depends on the Mac. The new ones do up to 230kb/s, older ones, as you say, 115kb/s, and even older ones 57kb/s. Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > > The highest rate I've seen is 115 kb/s, and that's bits, not bytes, so > the overall rate is way lower than, say, a floppy drive. OK for file > transfers, but not like you can cross mount the CD-ROM or hard drive and > have it be just like a lan. > > -Don Perley > perley@cadence.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 07:10:09 -0400 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 & Mac Message-Id: <9604091110.AA01695@nile.gnat.com> one thing to remember in looking at speeds of links to MACS is that the system 7 file system is incredibly slow, and is likely to be the bottleneck for file transfers (in fact one advantage of hooking a MAC up to an ethernet is that NFS access is typically MUCH faster than native file access). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 05:36:51 -0400 From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: victor@net1.nw.com.au, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Connecting with Warp Connect Message-Id: <199604091331.GAA28694@chaph.usc.edu> Victor, I had the same problem. I solved it. It has to do with your logon file. Try putting a \r before each command. ---------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 ----------------------------- AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I would rather die peacefully, in my sleep, like my Grandfather, rather than screaming, and in terror, like his passengers..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 14:26:37 +0200 From: Message-Id: <"nz11.rz.un.585:09.04.96.12.26.48"@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Reply to Julie Strietelmeier concerning WFW 3.11 Time Problems Same for me here, I think it has to do with the suspend mode. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 09:56:02 -0500 From: hprice@girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu (Howard Price) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: games & sound on tp750? Message-Id: <199604091452.KAA11933@CS.UTK.EDU> If the 750 is like the 755CD, the fundamental item is you need to run "mwgames on" before starting the game. This invokes the sound blaster emulation of the mwave dsp. Details are tougher, and vary by the game. > >What sound settings on games such as Doom, Doom2, or Descent, will work on >the thinkpad 750? I foolishly thought I was buying sound support when I >chose the 750 but so far the sound hardware is only good for running the >IBM sound diagnostic routines and the occasional WAV file. Has anyone had >any success in getting decent sound with any of the more recent video games? > >Sean Owens >player@envirolink.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 08:05:49 -0700 From: Dave Speed To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Factory Supplied 701C OS Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960409094118.2adff8a0@well.com> Many thanks to all who emailed me. Yes, thre *is* a Windows 3.11 (W3.11); it was designed for foiling the use of Windoze under OS/2 Warp. It pretends to network,but nobody knew how to make it work. The inelegant solution was to install Windows for Workgroups (WFW3.11). Once this was accomplished (with minimal pain), the network card install went fine and the 701 now enjoys several GB of disk space. Dave - KC6WKI ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 09 Apr 1996 09:56:02 CDT." <199604091452.KAA11933@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 11:28:37 -0400 From: Bob Cowles To: player@envirolink.org, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: games & sound on tp750? Message-Id: <9604091528.AA17469@pelican.cit.cornell.edu> BAsicly, you're out of luch with with either a 750 or a 755. They both have software emulation of a soundblaster and what you have to have is hardware emulation. The later Thinkpads moved to hardware emulation 755CE, CD, CX, CV and the 760 sreies all have hardware emulation. Bob Cowles ----------------------- Bob Cowles || "This could come out better if we rdc1@cornell.edu || planned it." Dr. Chaos -------------------------------- --96040912150220210-- End of thinkpad Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 17:02:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22986; Tue, 9 Apr 96 17:02:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17278; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:53:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:50:46 -0400 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16724; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:49:22 -0400 Received: by cicerone.uunet.ca id <166605-2>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:48:44 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: The Post Office Sender: mailer-daemon@cicerone.uunet.ca Subject: Unresolvable mail address Cc: The Post Office Message-Id: <96Apr9.164844edt.166605-2@cicerone.uunet.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:48:43 -0400 A copy of your message is being returned to you because one or more of the addresses you specified could not be recognized as addresses that are understood by, or reachable from, this system. 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This happens when your envelope address looks like user@site.dom, where site.dom is not a valid hostname. error: unresolvable: ebourne@fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca ------- Original Message follows ------- external rcvdfrom wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca ([192.139.233.5]) with SMTP from to Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA24111 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:48:19 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 2 Apr 1996 12:38:42 U From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinkpad digest for Tue To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Tue, 02 Apr 1996 !!! Original message was too large. !!! !!! It is contained in the enclosure whose name !!! is the same as the subject of this message. !!! !!! A preview of the message follows: Today's topics: Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad (John H. Kim) Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 31 Mar 1996 (William Ng) Re: 750s round the world (Christoph Eyrich) Re: Charging 701C when powered off? (Randy Whittle) Re: Charging 701C when powered off? (Randy Whittle) (Dan Lam) new member (Chris Hanson) OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (Chris Hanson) Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad (image@amanda.dorsai.org) TP701 battery pack 'life expectancy'? (Christoph Eyrich) Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad (John H. Kim) Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup (John H. Kim) Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (Robert Dewar) Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad (Vince Wayland) introduction (Gabriel Ash) Re: introduction (Robert Dewar) Unsubscribe (silbersp@access.digex.net) Unsubscribe (silbersp@access.digex.net) Re: introduction (Gabriel Ash) Re: introduction (John H. Kim) Any Mwave drivers for NT? (Barry A Starrfield) Full Screen DOS Applications (Alex Judd) Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (fwd) (Christoph Eyrich) Re: Full Screen DOS Applications (Robert Dewar) Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (fwd) (Robert Dewar) Re: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup (Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Re: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup (John H. Kim) Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (Paulo Magalhaes) Re: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup (Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Optimize memory on 701 & QEMM? (Dennis Pantazis) Re: Optimize memory on 701 & QEMM? (Michael Verne/VENTANA) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --96040212150226927 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --96040212150226927 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <9603312216.AA05454@mod.civil.su.OZ.AU> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 12:40:40 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: Murray Clarke CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad Message-Id: On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Murray Clarke wrote: > I have a Thinkpad 755CE and wish to upgrade the hard disk drive from 540 MB > to 1.2GB. The prices of these drives as quoted from IBM or a third party, > which include the (proprietary) caddy that houses the drive, are quite > expensive. It is my understanding, however, that the drive itself is a > standard 2.5" drive. I would like to know if anyone has had experience in > opening the plastic caddy that houses the drive and installing a 2.5" inch > drive of higher capacity. What sort of drives are recommended? Several people have done it. Most 2.5" drives are 19mm. You need a 12mm or 17mm drive to fit inside the caddy. This limits your choice of hard drives: I think only IBM makes the 17mm drives, and there are only a couple companies making 12mm drives > 1GB. Most 2.5" drives are 19mm. You may be able to get a 19mm drive to fit if you do without the caddy, but that'll expose the hard drive electronics every time you swap the battery. Don Whiteside had a good description of the procedure on his old web page (RIP). Lift up the corners of the ///////// label and undo the two screws there. Take care to catch the nuts that fall out the other side when you do this. Use a jewler's screwdriver to pry apart the side of the caddy: Loosen all the snaps on the side, then gently pry it apart. This step will cause you no end of frustration until you have it apart and get a good look at how the whole thing works. Once it's open, make note of exactly which pins the connector mates with on the hard drive (there's an extra column of pins, sometimes covered by a jumpe <<<<<< Attached TEXT file named "thinkpad digest for Tue, 02 Apr" follows >>>>>> Received: by qmgate with SMTP;2 Apr 1996 12:30:25 U Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA01461 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:27:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27196; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:15:42 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:15:41 -0500 From: Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:15:39 -0500 To: thinkpad-digest-recipients:; Subject: thinkpad digest for Tue, 02 Apr 1996 Reply-To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="96040212150226927" Message-Id: Today's topics: Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad (John H. Kim) Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 31 Mar 1996 (William Ng) Re: 750s round the world (Christoph Eyrich) Re: Charging 701C when powered off? (Randy Whittle) Re: Charging 701C when powered off? (Randy Whittle) (Dan Lam) new member (Chris Hanson) OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (Chris Hanson) Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad (image@amanda.dorsai.org) TP701 battery pack 'life expectancy'? (Christoph Eyrich) Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad (John H. Kim) Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup (John H. Kim) Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (Robert Dewar) Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad (Vince Wayland) introduction (Gabriel Ash) Re: introduction (Robert Dewar) Unsubscribe (silbersp@access.digex.net) Unsubscribe (silbersp@access.digex.net) Re: introduction (Gabriel Ash) Re: introduction (John H. Kim) Any Mwave drivers for NT? (Barry A Starrfield) Full Screen DOS Applications (Alex Judd) Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (fwd) (Christoph Eyrich) Re: Full Screen DOS Applications (Robert Dewar) Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (fwd) (Robert Dewar) Re: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup (Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Re: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup (John H. Kim) Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (Paulo Magalhaes) Re: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup (Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Optimize memory on 701 & QEMM? (Dennis Pantazis) Re: Optimize memory on 701 & QEMM? (Michael Verne/VENTANA) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --96040212150226927 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --96040212150226927 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <9603312216.AA05454@mod.civil.su.OZ.AU> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 12:40:40 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: Murray Clarke CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad Message-Id: On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Murray Clarke wrote: > I have a Thinkpad 755CE and wish to upgrade the hard disk drive from 540 MB > to 1.2GB. The prices of these drives as quoted from IBM or a third party, > which include the (proprietary) caddy that houses the drive, are quite > expensive. It is my understanding, however, that the drive itself is a > standard 2.5" drive. I would like to know if anyone has had experience in > opening the plastic caddy that houses the drive and installing a 2.5" inch > drive of higher capacity. What sort of drives are recommended? Several people have done it. Most 2.5" drives are 19mm. You need a 12mm or 17mm drive to fit inside the caddy. This limits your choice of hard drives: I think only IBM makes the 17mm drives, and there are only a couple companies making 12mm drives > 1GB. Most 2.5" drives are 19mm. You may be able to get a 19mm drive to fit if you do without the caddy, but that'll expose the hard drive electronics every time you swap the battery. Don Whiteside had a good description of the procedure on his old web page (RIP). Lift up the corners of the ///////// label and undo the two screws there. Take care to catch the nuts that fall out the other side when you do this. Use a jewler's screwdriver to pry apart the side of the caddy: Loosen all the snaps on the side, then gently pry it apart. This step will cause you no end of frustration until you have it apart and get a good look at how the whole thing works. Once it's open, make note of exactly which pins the connector mates with on the hard drive (there's an extra column of pins, sometimes covered by a jumper). Swap drives, put everything back together. If Don still has his instructions around, maybe he can post them. Another trick is to buy one of those cheap 170MB drives with caddy we've seen on closeout ($49 or so). Toss the 170 in the trash (or mail it to me :) and use the caddy for your new 1.2GB drive. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 09:45:22 -0800 From: wmng@berlioz.nsc.com (William Ng) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 31 Mar 1996 Message-Id: <9604011745.AA18893@berlioz.nsc.com> > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Mar 31 15:10:54 1996 > Return-Path: > To: biosas@netcom.com > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 31 Mar 1996 > Content-Length: 654 > X-Lines: 22 > > > >Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:47:14 -0500 > >From: biosas@netcom.com (Randall Downer) > >X-Sender: biosas@127.0.0.1 > > > >David, give me your linux kernal version and the EXACT X problem and I will > >send you either source or a compiled version of tpdualscan that will solve > >the problem. > > > >Randy... > > > > I'm running 1.2.13 (ELF) from the Slackware 3.0 distribution. The exact > problem is I run startx and get garbage on my screen (it looks like two > sets of shimmering horizontal lines, one at the top of the screen and the > other about halfway down). > > Will tpdualscan fix this? Do I also need a patched XF86_SVGA? > > Thanks for the help. > > David > I had to start Linux from DOS using LOADLIN if I want to use the 800x600 video mode. If I start Linux directly, "startx" fills 2/3 of my screen with white lines. At that point, I had to hit "ctl-alt-Backspace" to exit from X. I will be really interested if tpdualscan can fix the problem. Configuration: Linux 1.2.13 (Slackware 3.0) TP755CX with 24MB -William Ng wmng@nsc.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 20:03:24 +0100 From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 750s round the world Message-Id: > > > Do I have to worry at all > > about plugging my precious TP into those German lines with this setup? > > > > I plugged mine in (with the plug adaptor) in both France and > Switzerland with no problems...Have fun on the trip! > No problem in Germany - I used the original 755CX adapter without any problems (well, with a different cord, the two prong model). Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 11:58:10 -0800 From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) To: Vaidy Sunderam , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? Message-Id: At 7:20 AM 4/1/96, Vaidy Sunderam wrote: >When I plug my 701C to the ac adapter, it w#008#seems to charge >the battery only when the computer is powered on. Has anyone >encountered this or know how to fix it? Thanks > >Vaidy Sunderam Its not a bug, its a feature! ;-) Oddly enough, the 701C (and it says this in the manual) does *not* charge the battery unless the machine is on. It can be in suspend (not hibernate), but as long as the machine is *on*, it will charge--if the machine is off in any way (including hibernate), the battery does not charge. Its just the way its made. I don't know why. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business "Did you really think you could call up the Devil and ask him to behave?" -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 11:58:19 -0800 From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) To: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar), jokim@tuna.mit.edu, sunderam@cs.utk.edu CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? Message-Id: At 9:19 AM 4/1/96, Robert Dewar wrote: >"This is normal. The battery will only charge with the computer on >or in suspend. Dunno about hibernate but I doubt it'll charge." > >Really?? that's certainly not true on a 700, 720, 755 or 760. Sounds >like a real disadvantage of the 701. It is unique to the 701--and I'll admit its quite odd. But what's the "disadvantage" really? If you're not going to use the computer anyway (clearly you wouldn't with it "off"), then what do you care whether its turned on or not? The easiest way to do it (if you don't want it actively "on") is to put the machine in suspend--its a little weird, but its not a big deal. As for the gentleman who said his 701 charges the battery with it off--check again. Run your battery down to zilch, physically turn your machine OFF, then plug in your charger. If you have a charged battery the next day, you've surprised me, other 701 owners, and the IBM'ers who wrote the manual. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business "Did you really think you could call up the Devil and ask him to behave?" -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 12:14:51 -0800 From: Dan Lam To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: subscribe ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <199604010702.HAA20303@skeeve.msc.cornell.edu> (jjl9@msc.cornell.edu) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 15:23:00 -0500 From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: jjl9@msc.cornell.edu CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, jjl9@lynx.msc.cornell.edu Subject: new member Message-Id: From: John Joowon Lee Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:02:00 -0500 (EST) I'm primarily a user of flavors of UNIX and I've been quite happy with Linux. I've noticed that about every 50 hours of uptime, however, that Linux continuously accesses the hard-drive for several minutes; except for olvwm and xterm, there is no correlation with running applications. I haven't yet figured out what processes are involved. I am naive with UNIX system administration; if someone should have an idea about what Linux is doing, I would like to be educated. It's probably doing a `find' that is part of the daily cron scripts or something. It's been a while since I used Slackware, but my Debian distribution has a standard script that runs once a day and scans the entire file system for setuid scripts. On my system, this script runs at about 6:45 every morning. Look in "/var/spool/cron/crontabs/root" to see if there is anything like that on your system. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <9604010444.AA05505@biobase.dk> (pamaga@biobase.dk) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 15:31:00 -0500 From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: pamaga@biobase.dk CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! Message-Id: From: Paulo Magalhaes Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:44:42 +0200 (MET DST) Ok, after too long a delay I finally found the time to install OS/2 Warp Connect on my little TP750Cs. I set the weekend aside, told friends and relatives that I was going away for the weekend, backed up all the data, read the manual, and sat down full of optimism... Never made it past the first diskette! My trustworthy Panasonic KXL-D720 CD-ROM (at least it is so under DOS/Windows) remained invisible... I tried all the tricks in my book: from re-reading the manual to minor modifications in the config.sys; from cursing to sweet-talking the machine into just taking a brief, brief look at the nice little CD-ROM player sitting next to it. Nothing would remove the cloak of invisibility from the poor Panasonic... Help! How do I install an OS that comes in a CD-ROM when the #&@$(&? thing wont even see the CD-ROM player? (Yes, it is plugged in, and ON!!!) Thank you, and forgive the warped (oh, that word again!!!) sense of humour: it is the frustration of many hours sitting in front of this machine... You're out of luck. We purchased one of these units last summer, when USA Flex mistakenly advertised it as having OS/2 drivers. After a short run-around, we got a not-very-convincing statement from Panasonic that they would have OS/2 drivers in "August or September", so we returned the drive to USA Flex and bought something else. The drivers were never released (probably not even written), and to the best of my knowledge there is no way to use that drive with OS/2. This is not an unusual story for this otherwise fairly nice operating system. What's ironic about the story is that the drive was purchased for my boss, who is the Matsushita Professor of Electrical Engineering here at MIT. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 15:42:42 -0500 From: To: "John H. Kim" CC: Murray Clarke , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad Message-Id: do you know if it's possible to fit a 19mm into a 701 even without a caddy? how bad is it to not have a caddy? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 22:02:47 +0100 From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701 battery pack 'life expectancy'? Message-Id: How many cycles of charging/discharging does the battery pack of the 701? I remember having read that older packs did something like 300 to 400 cycles. If this was still an accurate number, running on battery power while having a socket next to the TP would be an expensive option. How about the new LithiumIon pack of the 755CX? Thanks Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 16:49:01 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: image@amanda.dorsai.org CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad Message-Id: On Mon, 1 Apr 1996 image@amanda.dorsai.org wrote: > do you know if it's possible to fit a 19mm into a 701 even without a > caddy? how bad is it to not have a caddy? The 701 takes a 12mm drive. I haven't taken the 701 caddy apart so I don't know how essential it is. Given the 701's drive slides in instead of popping down like the 75X, I'd think the caddy is required. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 16:55:00 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup Message-Id: After my co-Linux/DOS/Win95 on a 701C install troubles a few weeks, ago, I managed to tame Win95 and get it to act less hostile towards other OSes on the hard drive. Here's what happened after Win95 wiped out [sic] all my data: A sector went bad on the Linux swap partition, foiling an attempt to reinstall Linux. I completely repartitioned to put the bad sector in a (little-used) DOS partition. While doing this and installing OS/2's boot manager, the hard drive completely died, locked up. The machine refused to even boot if the hard drive was installed. Called up EZServ. Sent it in. Got a call next day saying some of the parts were out of stock and it'd be a while. Got the machine back a week later. They also fixed a lose keyboard and replaced the cracked case caused by me forgetting to unplug the AC adapter and walking off with the machine. They replaced the system board to try to fix the static on the headphone jack problem, but it only fixed it for the right speaker. There's still static on the left speaker. I also found a crack on the side of the top lid. I can't determine if it was there before the EZServ. This is the first time an EZServ repair has taken >48 hours for me, but considering they fixed something I broke (the case), I'm happy. Anyways, back to my install story. The machine came with a new hard drive with all the original software. I'd since made Linux boot floppies with ncftp on them so I was able to back everything up this time. Whoopee. First I tried to install all three OSes, using LILO to switch between them. I discovered that you can have more than one primary partition visible to DOS/Win, and they're assigned drive letters according to the order they're on the disk. Since Win95 insists on its own C: partition, it would interfere with DOS, so LILO wouldn't do what I wanted. OS/2's boot manager only allows one active primary partition. It will switch the unused primary partitions to type 13(?), unknown, which effectively hides it from DOS/Win. This means DOS and Win95 can each have separate C: drives without knowing about the other's existence. After I'd gotten boot manager installed things went smoothly except for one hitch: Adding a logical drive to the front of the extended partition can reassign disk labels. My linux boot partition got moved from /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda7. I was able to boot off floppies (LILO: linux hd=699,32,63 root=/dev/hda7), reconfigure LILO and reinstall it. I've been led to believe that Linux is independent of drive labels so hopefully this won't cause any problems. In retrospect, this is probably what happened the first time when I thought Win95 had wiped out my partition table. So here's how I got everything to work: 1. Partition everything using OS/2's fdisk (run OS/2 fdisk and it'll install boot manager, then reboot): primary partitions: boot manager /dev/hda1 DOS boot (C:) /dev/hda2 FAT Win95 boot (C:) /dev/hda3 FAT extended partitions: /dev/hda4 Win95 (D:) /dev/hda5 FAT DOS data (E:) /dev/hda6 FAT Linux /dev/hda7 ext2 Linux swapfile /dev/hda8 swap Make sure you put DOS, Win95, and Linux in boot manager's menu. Use Linux fdisk to set the type on the Linux partitions 2. Boot, get OS/2 boot manager, select to boot DOS. It'll come up as "system files not found" since there's nothing there, but it'll set the DOS C: partition to active, and the Win95 C: partition to inactive. That's all you want. 3. Install DOS. Since the DOS C: partition is active, it'll install there. It'll also insist on formatting the D: and E: partitions but you want to do that anyway. Install DOS. 4. DOS has deactivated boot manager and set itself to bootable, so run DOS fdisk. Set the boot manager partition as the startup partition. Reboot. 5. Boot manager comes up again. This time pick Win95. It'll give the error about system files again since we haven't yet touched the Win95 C: partition, but the DOS C: partition is now inactive while the Win95 C: partition is active. 6. Install Win95. It'll disable boot manager as well. You'll have to boot off floppy and run fdisk to set boot manager to startable again. 7. Install Linux normally. Put LILO on the Linux partition (i.e. /dev/hda7 in my case). When boot manager tries to boot Linux, it'll find LILO there and run it, which will start up Linux. (I did this step first, which caused some of the problems I've described above. In generally, install the easiest things first and the hardest things last. That way if you have to start over, you don't have to do as much work. :) So I now have a system which brings up OS/2's boot manager at startup. I can pick DOS, Win95, or Linux and they all run without interfering with each other (except the DOS/Win95 C: drives are not visible to each other, no big deal). I'll withdraw my statements about Win95 trashing my hard disk. Its hostility towards other OSes certainly made it easier for me to lose my data while repartitioning, but upon reflection I don't think it was directly responsible. Win95 has a slick interface, I'll give it that. The UI also seems faster than OS/2's at certain critical points (disk management, sounds, etc.). I still manage to crash it or put it in an unusable state once every couple days, much more frequently than OS/2 or Linux, but I consider it a vast improvement over Win3.1. Its "multitasking" still stinks compared to OS/2 and Linux, but I got it so I could use long-filenamed HTML documents with a 64k color web browser, and it does that well. Given the vast amount of real estate it takes on my hard disk and the improvments over Win3.1, I'm not sure I'll put Win3.1 on my E: drive. BTW, I was able to install Smartsuite CD from a friend's desktop via a parallel laplink cable and Win95's networking. DOS's Interlink(?) should also do the job. Hardware is a TP701C DX4/75, 8MB RAM (going to 24 after I get my tax refunds ;), 720MB hard disk. Does anyone know about putting a larger hard drive in this baby? Incidently, the crack in the lid has IMHO compromised the stiffness of the lid, putting the LCD at risk if I put an uneven stress on it (i.e. toss it in my backpack with a thick boot next to it). It's going back for EZServ soon. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 17:02:23 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu, pamaga@biobase.dk CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! Message-Id: <9604012202.AA00199@nile.gnat.com> You can always install from a CD ROM as follows. Make a DOS partition with enough space COpy the disk images to this partition from DOS from the OS/2 CD ROM Make a modified version of the installation diskettes pointing to the diskette images (I forget exactly how this is done but it is trivial, and the procedure is in the 760CD manual if someone has one handy). Then install in the normal way, the system will be installed from the diskette images on your DOS partition. This is how I installed on a 760CD, works like a charm, and it is handy to have the diskette images around, since you can always reinstall if you need to easily. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: "John H. Kim" "Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad" (Apr 1, 4:49pm) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 19:25:17 -0500 From: "Vince Wayland" To: "John H. Kim" , image@amanda.dorsai.org CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad Message-Id: <9604011925.ZM6337@baobab.nesc.epa.gov> On Apr 1, 4:49pm, John H. Kim wrote: > Subject: Re: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad > On Mon, 1 Apr 1996 image@amanda.dorsai.org wrote: > > > do you know if it's possible to fit a 19mm into a 701 even without a > > caddy? how bad is it to not have a caddy? > > The 701 takes a 12mm drive. I haven't taken the 701 caddy apart so > I don't know how essential it is. Given the 701's drive slides in > instead of popping down like the 75X, I'd think the caddy is required. > -- > John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like > jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole > jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' > >-- End of excerpt from John H. Kim I don't think the connectors match up, do they? That was one of the points about last years discussion in trying to find the adaptor from the drive connector to the tp75x internal connector. Vince -- Vince Wayland Onsite at The National Environmental Supercomputer Center (517)894-7671 for Cray Research, Inc. veg@nesc.epa.gov NESC, 135 Washington Ave., Bay City, MI 48708 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 19:26:29 -0500 From: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) Reply-To: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: introduction Message-Id: <199604020026.TAA08567@judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu> Greeting to all, I just bought a 701c, 720 HD, with 24Mb RAM. I reinstalled OS/2 Warp blue as a single os on an HPFS partition. I am very pleased with it. I would like to take the opportunity to ask about some minor questions. 1) i have DOS applications that run in a text window. Is there a way to force the window to open in a maximized way? I even used REXX to set a MAXIMIZED proprety to the PM object, with no avail. 2 )does the SIO comm driver recognize correctly the hot changed setting between [standAlone] and [MultiPort]? Thanks to all readers ------------- Gabriel Ash Notre-Dame ------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 19:32:21 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: introduction Message-Id: <9604020032.AA01202@nile.gnat.com> " 1) i have DOS applications that run in a text window. Is there a way to force the window to open in a maximized way? I even used REXX to set a MAXIMIZED proprety to the PM object, with no avail." Sure, just open up the progam object for the program, and go to the seesion tab, and select DOS full screen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 18:01:09 -0800 From: To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Unsubscribe Message-Id: <199604020201.AA27832@relay.interserv.com> Thanks, I had fun. Pls take me off the list Kathryn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 18:01:39 -0800 From: To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Unsubscribe Message-Id: <199604020201.AA27856@relay.interserv.com> Thanks, I had fun. Pls take me off the list Kathryn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 23:24:36 -0500 From: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) Reply-To: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: introduction Message-Id: <199604020424.XAA14859@twins.rs.itd.umich.edu> On Mon, 1 Apr 96 19:32:21 EST you wrote: >" 1) i have DOS applications that run in a text window. Is there a way >to force the window to open in a maximized way? I even used REXX to >set a MAXIMIZED proprety to the PM object, with no avail." > >Sure, just open up the progam object for the program, and go to the >seesion tab, and select DOS full screen > > I am sorry, I wasn't clear, I don't want a full screen session, I want the application to open in a maximized window state (without scroll bars windows. ------------- Gabriel Ash Notre-Dame ------------- ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <199604020424.XAA14859@twins.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 23:40:54 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: Gabriel Ash CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: introduction Message-Id: On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Gabriel Ash wrote: > I am sorry, I wasn't clear, I don't want a full screen session, I want > the application to open in a maximized window state (without scroll > bars windows. [in OS/2] Hold down shift, resize the window until the scroll bars disappear. Next time you start it, it'll remember this size. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 00:10:26 -0500 From: Barry A Starrfield To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Any Mwave drivers for NT? Message-Id: <3160B6C2.6314@acpub.duke.edu> Hello, Does anyone know when IBM will release Mwave drivers for Windows NT? Fast! Barry Starrfield ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 10:58:56 +0100 From: Alex Judd To: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Full Screen DOS Applications Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960402105641.2fbf3f42@tiree.quantime.co.uk> > 1) i have DOS applications that run in a text window. Is there a way >to force the window to open in a maximized way? I even used REXX to >set a MAXIMIZED proprety to the PM object, with no avail. We also have as yet been unable to find any way to alter the parameters of a DOS session to automatically open full screen (without any previous user intervention). We've tried everything from REXX to PIF parameters to MODE! Alex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 12:39:37 +0200 From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (fwd) Message-Id: How exactly did you modify the installation diskettes? Thanks Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > > You can always install from a CD ROM as follows. > > Make a DOS partition with enough space > > COpy the disk images to this partition from DOS from the OS/2 CD ROM > > Make a modified version of the installation diskettes pointing to > the diskette images (I forget exactly how this is done but it is > trivial, and the procedure is in the 760CD manual if someone has > one handy). > > Then install in the normal way, the system will be installed from the > diskette images on your DOS partition. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 06:36:16 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu, ajudd@quantime.co.uk CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Full Screen DOS Applications Message-Id: <9604021136.AA22623@nile.gnat.com> Alex says "We also have as yet been unable to find any way to alter the parameters of a DOS session to automatically open full screen (without any previous user intervention). We've tried everything from REXX to PIF parameters to MODE!" Do you mean ful screen, or maximized. Both are easy, but the methods ar quite different. For full screen, just set the appropriate box in the session section of settings. For maximized, just make sure you use the shift key, as described in a previous messsage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 06:39:04 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (fwd) Message-Id: <9604021139.AA22648@nile.gnat.com> "How exactly did you modify the installation diskettes?" Sorry, I can't rmember, the procedure is in the 760CD manual, but I can't find mine anywhere. ------------------------------ Date: 02 Apr 1996 08:02:16 -0500 From: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus To: "John H. Kim" CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup Message-Id: <9604021459.AA21096@internet1.lotus.com> jokim @ tuna.mit.edu ("John H. Kim") 04-01-96 03:55 PM wrote: >>Win95 has a slick interface, I'll give it that. The UI also seems >>faster than OS/2's at certain critical points (disk management, >>sounds, etc.). I still manage to crash it or put it in an unusable >>state once every couple days, much more frequently than OS/2 or Linux, >>but I consider it a vast improvement over Win3.1. Its "multitasking" >>still stinks compared to OS/2 and Linux, but I got it so I could use >>long-filenamed HTML documents with a 64k color web browser, and it >>does that well. Given the vast amount of real estate it takes on my >>hard disk and the improvments over Win3.1, I'm not sure I'll put >>Win3.1 on my E: drive. You said you got it (Wind95) so that you could use "long-filenamed HTML documents with a 64k color web browser". OS/2's WebExplorer certainly supports long filenamed HTML documents and you can get drivers for the 701C that support 64k colors. Since you obviously prefer OS/2 over Wind95 why not go back to it and get back the crash protection and smooth multitasking. The next version (code-named Merlin) will have an interface that is much slicker than Wind95 and has the underlying infra- structure to support the interface properly. -Bill ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <9604021459.AA21092@internet1.lotus.com> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 10:51:38 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup Message-Id: On 2 Apr 1996, Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus wrote: > You said you got it (Wind95) so that you could use "long-filenamed HTML > documents with a 64k color web browser". OS/2's WebExplorer certainly > supports long filenamed HTML documents and you can get drivers for > the 701C that support 64k colors. Since you obviously prefer OS/2 over > Wind95 why not go back to it and get back the crash protection and > smooth multitasking. I thought I'd read somewhere that WebExplorer won't work in 16-bit color? Also, I don't have an ethernet-capable version of OS/2 (The version I was using before switching to Linux was a one-year DevCon license). I do most of my work under Linux so Win95's poor multitasking isn't that big a deal. To be honest, I've almost conceded that Microsoft is going to keep their stranglehold on the PC market, and the only hope now is that networked apps will make the operating system irrelevent, pulling the rug out from underneath Microsoft's base. Did you see PC Week's recent review of presentation apps for Win95? Only Microsoft's Win95 app was faster than its Win3.1 predecessor. Everybody else's was slower. I wonder when the Feds are going to wake up and see that a major app company controling the OS is not a good thing. Ach, I'm rambling into politics... Since you're at Lotus, I'll add that the group editing features in WordPro are REALLY slick! Great job. When is Merlin coming out? I'm more than willing to take a look at it to run Smartsuite. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <9604021139.AA22648@nile.gnat.com> from "Robert Dewar" at Apr 2, 96 06:39:04 am Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 18:17:59 +0200 From: Paulo Magalhaes To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! Message-Id: <9604021617.AA10601@biobase.dk> If some kind soul with a 760 manual handy could post the instructions for modifying the installation disks, I'm sure at least a couple of us would be very grateful. Thanks. -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu ------------------------------ Date: 02 Apr 1996 12:04:52 -0500 From: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus To: "John H. Kim" CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup Message-Id: <9604021611.AA23785@internet1.lotus.com> Merlin is due out sometime mid-year .... The beta is due sometime this month ... WordPro beta for OS/2 is just about ready to go. Freelance isn't far behind. As far as WebExplorer and 16-bit color, 1.03 is the version I run and it runs fine. Also on the WebExplorer Home Page is a version that has Java support as well ( http://www.raleigh.ibm.com/WebExplorer/webhome.htm ) -Bill jokim @ tuna.mit.edu ("John H. Kim") 04-02-96 09:51 AM To: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus cc: thinkpad @ cs.utk.edu @ INTERNET Subject: Re: Linux/DOS/Win95 coexisting on 701C followup On 2 Apr 1996, Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus wrote: > You said you got it (Wind95) so that you could use "long-filenamed HTML > documents with a 64k color web browser". OS/2's WebExplorer certainly > supports long filenamed HTML documents and you can get drivers for > the 701C that support 64k colors. Since you obviously prefer OS/2 over > Wind95 why not go back to it and get back the crash protection and > smooth multitasking. I thought I'd read somewhere that WebExplorer won't work in 16-bit color? Also, I don't have an ethernet-capable version of OS/2 (The version I was using before switching to Linux was a one-year DevCon license). I do most of my work under Linux so Win95's poor multitasking isn't that big a deal. To be honest, I've almost conceded that Microsoft is going to keep their stranglehold on the PC market, and the only hope now is that networked apps will make the operating system irrelevent, pulling the rug out from underneath Microsoft's base. Did you see PC Week's recent review of presentation apps for Win95? Only Microsoft's Win95 app was faster than its Win3.1 predecessor. Everybody else's was slower. I wonder when the Feds are going to wake up and see that a major app company controling the OS is not a good thing. Ach, I'm rambling into politics... Since you're at Lotus, I'll add that the group editing features in WordPro are REALLY slick! Great job. When is Merlin coming out? I'm more than willing to take a look at it to run Smartsuite. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 10:24:14 -0600 From: Dennis Pantazis To: thinkpad Subject: Optimize memory on 701 & QEMM? Message-Id: I finally got all the garbage off of my TP701, upgraded the BIOS, and got the Dos/WFW stuff the way I wanted it, and I also changed some of the port assignments around: Modem on COM2 (IRQ3), IrDA on COM1(4), Floppy on Pll- 1(7), Audio (10), got my desktop cnfigured to work with a modem and the JetEye IrDA, everything worked, played around with the modem, IrDA, transfered some files, cool! Then I tried to install QEMM to optimize my memory, it went through pretty good, except that it started out with like 7x10E18 combinations, and I waited for it to drop to about 7x10E15 (15 minutes)and selected the already maximized configuration, No I do not exagerate the magnatude of the numbers, After QEMM finished, I got back up to 629 K under 640, everyhting seemed prety good. WRONG! After reboot, none of the ports worked right, no floppy, no Ir, no nothing, programs seem to work ok, but all periferals seem out of kilter. How should one optimize the memory on a 701? What have people done to otimizr the first 640k? TIA Dennis ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Pantazis My opinions are my own, and can not be interpreted as extensions of the Graduate Student in Civil Engineering University's official policies. University of Illinois-Urbana (the Extended Tour of Duty continues) You can see us at http://students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 02 Apr 1996 12:03:34 -0400 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA To: tp750 Subject: Re: Optimize memory on 701 & QEMM? Message-Id: <9604022000.AA6223@lgate.vmedia.com> "...I tried to install QEMM to optimize my memory, it went through pretty good, except that it started out with like 7x10E18 combinations, and I waited for it to drop to about 7x10E15 (15 minutes)and selected the already maximized configuration, No I do not exagerate the magnatude of the numbers,... ...How should one optimize the memory on a 701? What have people done to otimizr the first 640k?..." ~~~~~ i like ramdoubler. it's by connectix & it takes all of 20 seconds to install in windows. it's for windows only, so it won't do your dos apps any good. also, it doesn't use the 'stealthing' of umb's that qemm uses, but the end result is that i'll run out of applications to open before i run out of memory to open them in. also, it only costs about $50. when i ran qemm, i looked at the combinations it was working on & calculated that, if i let it run it's course, it would take 37 days to complete. Michael J. 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This happens when your envelope address looks like user@site.dom, where site.dom is not a valid hostname. error: unresolvable: ebourne@fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca ------- Original Message follows ------- external rcvdfrom wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca ([192.139.233.5]) with SMTP from to Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA24468 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:53:26 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 30 Mar 1996 12:30:27 U From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinkpad digest for Sat To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Sat, 30 Mar 1996 Today's topics: ADMIN: Another mailing list suggestion (Life is just a bowl of queries!) subscribe (Ken Sterner) subscribe (borchew) subscribe (Paul A. Anderson) subscribe (David Gower) Re: ADMIN: Another mailing list suggestion (billy@mix.com) RE: ADMIN: Another mailing list suggestion (Life is just a bowl of queries!) RE: ADMIN: Another mailing list suggestion (Steve Hultquist) RE: ADMIN: Another mailing list suggestion (Michael Verne/VENTANA) BIOS32 extension?????? (William Ng) Re: BIOS32 extension?????? (Steve Hultquist) subscribe (Jim McGhee) help (Dave Speed) new member (David Gower) (Philip Hogarth) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --96033012150227876 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --96033012150227876 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 10:51:37 -0700 From: Life is just a bowl of queries! To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ADMIN: Another mailing list suggestion Message-Id: <960329105137.2b2a@sybgate.sybase.com> Many mailing lists to which I belong manipulate the SMTP (or whatever) header information so that the From: information is shown to be the mailing list itself, instead of the individual person sending the message. I find there are significant advandages in having some well-defined way to identify messages from a specific mailing list, like a known sequence of characters in the From: or Subject: fields. That way, those of us with automatic response programs (e.g., the UNIX vacation utility) can set them up in a way that does not respond to mailing list messages, thus reducing the unnecessary bandwidth associated with such programs. With hopes that the ThinkPad mailing list can be so configured, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:37:33 -0500 From: Sterner@Fred.Net (Ken Sterner) Reply-To: sterner@Fred.Net (Ken Sterner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: <199603291840.NAA00655@bigdog.fred.net> subscribe -- Ken Sterner of Hagerstown MD sterner@fred.net "Hey Santa, How much for the list of naughty girls?" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 11:22:22 -0800 From: borchew Reply-To: borchew@loc100.tandem.com To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, with@loc100.tandem.com Subject: subscribe Message-Id: <315C386E.4489@loc100.tandem.com> subscribe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:28:49 -0500 From: anderso1@jeflin.tju.edu (Paul A. Anderson) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: subscribe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:59:27 -0500 From: David Gower To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: <315C411F.5300@frontiernet.net> subscribe ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <960329105137.2b2a@sybgate.sybase.com> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:06:01 -0500 From: billy@mix.com To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: ADMIN: Another mailing list suggestion Message-Id: <828129961.585773.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> > Many mailing lists to which I belong manipulate the SMTP (or whatever) > header information so that the From: information is shown to be the > mailing list itself, instead of the individual person sending the message. I strongly object to this, if only becuase I prefer to see who sent what, but it makes a real mess out of many other things too. Better to get some software that can look at who it's TO, not FROM. For instance, here is the header from what you sent - > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Billy Y.. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:50:28 -0700 From: Life is just a bowl of queries! To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: ADMIN: Another mailing list suggestion Message-Id: <960329135028.2b2a@sybgate.sybase.com> Gentlepeople, In his recent note, billy@mix.com said: > I strongly object to this, if only becuase I prefer to see who sent what, > but it makes a real mess out of many other things too. Better to get some > software that can look at who it's TO, not FROM. For instance, here is the > header from what you sent - > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In fact, I do *NOT* get that "To:" information. Instead, my company's mail gateway translates things such that my "To:" line explicitly says "To: jmelton" (which identifies my login ID). The recent suggestion from katz@sabine.acs.psu.edu to change the Subject: line to add a mailing list identifier (his example was to add "[tp]", but anything along that line would be similar) would be much preferable to me. Thanks, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:54:23 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist To: Life is just a bowl of queries! , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: ADMIN: Another mailing list suggestion Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960329205423.00a50694@[166.93.8.14]> At 01:50 PM 3/29/96 -0700, Life is just a bowl of queries! wrote: >Gentlepeople, > >In his recent note, billy@mix.com said: > >> I strongly object to this, if only becuase I prefer to see who sent what, >> but it makes a real mess out of many other things too. Better to get some >> software that can look at who it's TO, not FROM. For instance, here is the >> header from what you sent - > >> > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > >In fact, I do *NOT* get that "To:" information. Instead, my company's >mail gateway translates things such that my "To:" line explicitly says >"To: jmelton" (which identifies my login ID). Actually, this is a *bad* idea. Basically, your mail gateway is breaking SMTP. Instead, the gateway should add an "Apparently-to:" header line to the e-mail, and forward it as it exists. It is, instead, reformating the message contents, which is not a good idea. I suspect, however, that your e-mail gateway can't handle native SMTP, so needs to make these changes to work, right? If your gateway administrators are friendly, you might discuss this with them to see if there's a way to have the gateway properly handle mailing lists. Cheers, ssh Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Distributed Systems and Internet Engineering Boulder, Colorado ------------------------------ Date: 29 Mar 1996 15:55:51 -0400 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA To: tp750 Subject: RE: ADMIN: Another mailing list suggestion Message-Id: <9603300009.AA2679@lgate.vmedia.com> "...>In fact, I do *NOT* get that "To:" information. Instead, my company's >mail gateway translates things such that my "To:" line explicitly says >"To: jmelton" (which identifies my login ID). Actually, this is a *bad* idea. Basically, your mail gateway is breaking SMTP. Instead, the gateway should add an "Apparently-to:"..." ~~~~~ what about a 'reply to' field? i'm in other listservs that designate 'from' and 'to' correctly, but include 'reply to' with the name of the listserv. works like a charm. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:34:56 -0800 From: wmng@berlioz.nsc.com (William Ng) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: BIOS32 extension?????? Message-Id: <9603292134.AA08252@berlioz.nsc.com> Hi Folks, I have a TP755CX and have Linux 1.2.13 installed. I got a boot message: "No BIOS32 extension present. This release still depends on it. Sorry." This message did not cause any problem, as far as I can tell. Anybody had the same experience? and anybody know why? -William Ng NSC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:52:14 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: BIOS32 extension?????? Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960329215214.00a79840@[166.93.8.14]> At 01:34 PM 3/29/96 PST, William Ng wrote: >I have a TP755CX and have Linux 1.2.13 installed. I got a boot message: > >"No BIOS32 extension present. This release still depends on it. Sorry." I get this message on my ISA machine, too. I think it's part of the auto-detect for PCI (which, on a CX, you don't have). It doesn't cause any problems. Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Distributed Systems and Internet Engineering Boulder, Colorado ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:04:30 -0600 From: Jim McGhee To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: <315C6C7E.10FD@dhs.com> I would like to the thinkpad mail list. Thanks Jim McGhee jim@why.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:49:41 -0800 From: Dave Speed To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: help Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960329202653.31d71390@well.com> help ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:24:29 -0800 From: David Gower To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: new member Message-Id: <315CD39D.2E54@pop3.frontiernet.com> Hello everyone, I just subscribed to this group and I just purchased a TP 701 75mhz w 8ram. So far I am very happy with it and have figured out how to use almost everything but the infrared. I have the proper drivers (for 95) as well as the updates from IBM, but I can't seem to get a thinkpad to thinkpad connection(my friend has a thinkpad too) Any advise or other introductory info would be much appreciated. David Gower ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:01:58 -0500 From: Philip Hogarth To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Message-Id: <01BB1E23.8737F2A0@hogarth.resudox.net> subscribe -------------------------------- --96033012150227876-- End of thinkpad Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 17:03:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22996; Tue, 9 Apr 96 17:03:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17900; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:56:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:54:27 -0400 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17338; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:53:45 -0400 Received: by cicerone.uunet.ca id <166696-6>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:53:34 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: The Post Office Sender: mailer-daemon@cicerone.uunet.ca Subject: Unresolvable mail address Cc: The Post Office Message-Id: <96Apr9.165334edt.166696-6@cicerone.uunet.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:53:34 -0400 A copy of your message is being returned to you because one or more of the addresses you specified could not be recognized as addresses that are understood by, or reachable from, this system. 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This happens when your envelope address looks like user@site.dom, where site.dom is not a valid hostname. error: unresolvable: ebourne@fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca ------- Original Message follows ------- external rcvdfrom wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca ([192.139.233.5]) with SMTP from to Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA24434 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:53:08 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 1 Apr 1996 11:30:11 U From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinkpad digest for Sun To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Sun, 31 Mar 1996 Today's topics: (no subject) (Marc Weidenbaum) 755Cs XF86Config problems (David Whiting) Intro....& Q's (Dennis Pantazis) Cheap HDs for the 701? (Christoph Eyrich) 701 & OSes (was: Intro....& Q's) (John H. Kim) (ud1b@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --9603311215017136 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --9603311215017136 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:26:29 -0800 From: Marc Weidenbaum To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: (no subject) Message-Id: <315DA705.4061@calweb.com> subscribe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:28:54 -0700 From: David Whiting To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755Cs XF86Config problems Message-Id: <9603302128.AA31029@stata2.byu.edu> Hi all, I have successfully installed linux on my 755Cs, but cannot get X-windows to work properly. I've read the Linux-on-ThinkPad FAQ at http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse/linux, but my netscape won't properly download tpdualscan or XF86_SVGA. For some reason, I cannot even compile tpdualscan.c properly. Is there an ftp site where I can retrieve these files? I believe this is all I need to get up-and-running. Thanks, David -- ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ `0_ 0 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) David G. Whiting (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Department of Statistics _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' Brigham Young University (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' Provo, UT 84602 office: 232 TMCB phone: (801) 378-4193 email: whitingd@byu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 02:40:23 -0600 From: Dennis Pantazis To: thinkpad Subject: Intro....& Q's Message-Id: Greetings! I have just joined the ranks of ThinkPad-ers! I have a 701C DX4-75, 8 (soon to go up to 24)M and a 720 HD. So far I have after a week of ownership played and browsed about and tried to get used to my TP. I have been paring down the program files, getting rid of crap like AOL/Prodigy etc....it has been a tedious task to say the least to back up the drive first via null modem and Tranxit to my desktop HD. My interests for the machine are to dual boot WFW and OS/2 off of the 720, and if I can find a 360 or 540 cheap, install LINUX or BSD on it. A couple of quick questions though.... 1. I would like to reinstall OS/2 on an HPFS partition. I do like the featured icons which allow you to change os's while in the other. Is there any way to keep them even though I will put os/2 on hpfs? 2. On transfer programs,,, Any suggestions? My 701 came preloaded with PUMA TranXit, although not bad, I have an IrDA adaptor, and need to upgrade to gain that compatibility. Is there anything better than TranXit? I had trouble running it out of a WIN-OS/2 session. 3. On Linux- I saw the thinkpad 755/Linux FAQ, but have not seen a 701C/CS FAQ. Does it exist, or will anyone who has installed it get in touch with me please. 4. Is there a need to run QEMM or EMM386 to better utilize available memory? What if any pitfalls are there? Conflicts with the video drivers/etc? TIA I am glad that I found this email group, it is so nice to be able to be in the company of people with similar computre 'values' and inerests. Dennis ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Pantazis My opinions are my own, and can not be interpreted as extensions of the Graduate Student in Civil Engineering University's official policies. University of Illinois-Urbana (the Extended Tour of Duty continues) You can see us at http://students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:05:01 +0100 From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Cheap HDs for the 701? Message-Id: Does anyone know a source for cheap HDs for the TP 701? It seems that a 720MB is something like $800 or $900 which is quite a lot.. :-( Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 08:25:39 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: Dennis Pantazis CC: thinkpad Subject: 701 & OSes (was: Intro....& Q's) Message-Id: On Sun, 31 Mar 1996, Dennis Pantazis wrote: > Greetings! I have just joined the ranks of ThinkPad-ers! I have a 701C > DX4-75, 8 (soon to go up to 24)M and a 720 HD. > > My interests for the machine are to dual boot WFW and OS/2 off of the > 720, and if I can find a 360 or 540 cheap, install LINUX or BSD on it. > > 1. I would like to reinstall OS/2 on an HPFS partition. I do like the > featured icons which allow you to change os's while in the other. Is > there any way to keep them even though I will put os/2 on hpfs? First of all, if you want OS/2 on an HPFS partition, you can't use dual boot. You need to use boot manager. Dual boot only works if OS/2 and DOS both reside on the c: drive. I'm pretty sure the icons just call the dual boot scripts so if you're not using dual boot, they won't do you any good. Boot manager is actually nicer. You get to pick the OS you want to use off a menu at startup. You can configure the default OS and timeouts as well. The problem is that Microsoft thinks their OS is the only OS you should use. DOS (or Win95 for that matter) will set itself to be the startup partition, bypassing boot manager. To reset it you have to use DOS fdisk to set boot manager's partition to startup. If that doesn't work, use OS/2's fdisk. You'll have to use OS/2's fdisk anyway to add DOS to the startup menu if you didn't do it the first time. i.e.: partition drive install boot manager & OS/2 install DOS use fdisk to set boot manager to startable. > 2. On transfer programs,,, Any suggestions? My 701 came preloaded with > PUMA TranXit, although not bad, I have an IrDA adaptor, and need to > upgrade to gain that compatibility. Is there anything better than > TranXit? I had trouble running it out of a WIN-OS/2 session. I haven't had any problems with normal serial software. The IrDA looks just like a serial port connected to the other computer via a null modem. Laplink or an OS/2 equivalent should work. > 3. On Linux- I saw the thinkpad 755/Linux FAQ, but have not seen a > 701C/CS FAQ. Does it exist, or will anyone who has installed it get in > touch with me please. There are several of us on this list using Linux on our 701C(S)s. The nicest summary of 701 info I've seen is by Craig Leres, at http://www-nrg.ee.lbl.gov/leres/butterfly/. Linux, for the most part, installs w/o any problems. Just ask the list if you run into any problems. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 15:34:09 +0200 From: Message-Id: <"nz11.rz.un.194:31.03.96.13.34.13"@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Actually I should post this via anon.penet.fi, embarrasing as it is ... Oustide the US, the 701 TP is sold with the Modem disabled for legal reasons, so I figured break the lid open and theres the connector behind it. It wasn't. But now, MAYBE becuase of the force applied, my system behaves as if the screen is closed constantly. When you disable shutdown when closed in the Bios, the Box will continue running but the screen goes off anyway, just like the light in you refrigerator when you close it. I now use a piece of cardboard stuck between keyboard and case which disables the sensor that tells it that the box is closed. Works, but is a hassle. Now IBM's got this nice warranty but I figured I can't assume it on behalf of my own stupidity (shame shame shame). Any Comments ? Will they take it anyway ? How do I disable the sensor manually ? Or if they can bil me ? Joachim Loeblein, ud1b@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de I Fear Nothing. -------------------------------- --9603311215017136-- End of thinkpad Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 17:04:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23169; Tue, 9 Apr 96 17:04:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17825; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:56:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:54:37 -0400 Received: from relay7.UU.NET (relay7.UU.NET [192.48.96.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17408; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:54:29 -0400 Received: from localhost by relay7.UU.NET with internal id QQaksx07424; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:54:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:54:16 -0400 (EDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@uunet.uu.net (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca: host not found) Message-Id: To: Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) The original message was received at Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:54:03 -0400 (EDT) from wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca [192.139.233.5] ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 ... Host unknown (Name server: fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca: host not found) ----- Original message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: from wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca by relay7.UU.NET with SMTP id QQaksx07339; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:54:03 -0400 (EDT) From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA24528 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:54:04 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 29 Mar 1996 12:27:17 U Subject: thinkpad digest for Fri To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Fri, 29 Mar 1996 Today's topics: (Ronald L. Funk) (Dave Speed) Re: w95 and suspend mode, am i doing something wrong? (Steve Hultquist) Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard? (Steve Hultquist) Subscribe (Tony Staples) (Robert E. Shemo) Re: ADMIN: suggestion (ecottrell@doble.com) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --9603291215012213 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --9603291215012213 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:49:41 -0500 From: "Ronald L. Funk" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960328174941.002bcfa0@digital.net> subscribe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:28:40 -0800 From: Dave Speed To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960328160603.2f8f6d58@well.com> subscribe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 15:47:47 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist To: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: w95 and suspend mode, am i doing something wrong? Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960328224747.00e986ec@[166.93.8.14]> At 04:51 PM 3/27/96 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: >When I enter suspend mode on my 755cx under windows 95, >either by hitting alt-f4 or by selecting "suspend" in the start menu, >the screen blanks and a moment later the disk spins down as expected. >But much later--like minutes or hours--the disk starts spinning >again (with the screen still dark). This doesn't really seem >like suspend mode to me. Any advice? Thanks. Check the power details and make sure that you don't have anything set for re-start. For example, you're not taking incoming calls, are you? >PS, I'm using w95 because of a project I'm doing for work... >the UI is slick but I'm still eager to switch back to Linux... Yeah. I just wish I could run Office on Linux. I'd be off 95 in a flash! Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Distributed Systems and Internet Engineering Boulder, Colorado ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 15:47:48 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard? Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960328224748.00e88914@[166.93.8.14]> At 12:44 PM 3/28/96 +0900, Jeffrey Friedl wrote: > >Steve Hultquist wrote: >|> >I'm looking for a pcmcia-ethernetcard for a tp 755cx (24MB,500GB), >|> >which should work with OS/2 and Linux. >|> > >|> >Who knows which work/don't work/are preferable? >|> >|> 3Com. Don't even mess with any others. > >Well, my IBM one works fine (Linux/DOS/Windoze, but I'd expect OS/2 would >be fine, considering it's IBM). True. However, if you ever want to use other OSs, there is a likelihood that IBM support will be substantially behind 3Com support. IBM is, admittedly, getting better at this. But, 3Com is always there at the front of the line... Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Distributed Systems and Internet Engineering Boulder, Colorado ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 09:05:34 +0000 From: "Tony Staples" Reply-To: tstaples@piedmont.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Subscribe Message-Id: <199603291405.JAA11637@piedmont.net> subscribe Please add me to the Thinkpad mailing list. Tony ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 09:13:33 -0500 From: reshemo@jumbo.read.tasc.com (Robert E. Shemo) Message-Id: <9603291413.AA24614@jumbo.read.tasc.com> subscribe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:31:51 -0500 From: To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, "Don Whiteside" Subject: Re: ADMIN: suggestion Message-Id: <15c07600@doblegate.doble.com> Hello, Some mailing lists I belong to put a few lines at the end of each message identifying the list and brief instructions on how to unsubscribe. Some put in URL information for their web site, etc. 73 Eric eac@shore.net -------------------------------- --9603291215012213-- End of thinkpad Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 17:15:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23962; Tue, 9 Apr 96 17:15:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19560; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:06:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:59:21 -0400 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18269; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:59:10 -0400 Received: by cicerone.uunet.ca id <166476-2>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:42:43 -0400 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: The Post Office Sender: mailer-daemon@cicerone.uunet.ca Subject: Unresolvable mail address Cc: The Post Office Message-Id: <96Apr9.164243edt.166476-2@cicerone.uunet.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:42:42 -0400 A copy of your message is being returned to you because one or more of the addresses you specified could not be recognized as addresses that are understood by, or reachable from, this system. 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This happens when your envelope address looks like user@site.dom, where site.dom is not a valid hostname. error: unresolvable: ebourne@fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca ------- Original Message follows ------- external rcvdfrom wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca ([192.139.233.5]) with SMTP from to Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA23704 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:42:21 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 28 Feb 1996 12:36:24 U From: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: tp750 digest for Wed, 2 To: "tp750-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP tp750 digest for Wed, 28 Feb 1996 Today's topics: Hi There (Alan Sukiennik) MWAVE stopped working under Win3.1 (Eugene Fiume) Setup questions (Howard Price) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ ------------------------------ Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 20:27:15 -0500 From: Alan Sukiennik To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Hi There Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960228012715.0067c358@voicenet.com> Hi, My name is Alan Sukiennik. I own a 755CD with 24M of RAM and two HDs - 810Mb and 540Mb. The 540M drive is being used for Win95 and the 810M drive for Linux CND 1.0 The accessories besides those that come standard are: 3Com 3C589B Ethernet card and US Robotics 28.8 Sportster (at this time mwave modem is not yet supported by Linux to the best of my knowledge). hasta for now.... -=Alan=- ==========a l a n s u k i e n n i k============ $ network_admin@the_board_of_pensions $ H: 215.676.48.76; ------------- W: 215.574.54.29 pager/v-mail: 215.403.91.50 =========mailto:alans@voicenet.com============ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:52:21 -0500 From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: MWAVE stopped working under Win3.1 Message-Id: <96Feb27.225230est.144005@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> I don't recall making any system changes, but suddenly my MWAVE modem under Windows 3.1 has stopped working. Everything works fine under DOS, but executing mwmwin within mww\modem no longer fires up the modem. All my sound stuff is toast too. I tried to reinstall MWAVE2 for windows, but I got a truly informative message saying that I have -1 bytes remaining on my drive. It does make me worry about disk problems, but everything else on my drive including Linux seems to be fine. Anyone have any ideas on this one? I'm really trying to avoid editorial comments about Windows, but ooooh it's hard. Cheers, Eugene Fiume. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 09:53:43 -0600 From: hprice@girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu (Howard Price) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Setup questions Message-Id: <199602281549.KAA01928@CS.UTK.EDU> I'll repost my prior question: I have a TP755CD, and need some help with setup-type questions, which arose in trying to run 11th Hour game in pure DOS (I otherwise am still using win3.1). I'm a little disappointed in the paucity of IBM documentation for much of these down-and-dirty setup type programs: 1. Does anyone know about the command switches for mwave? I'm trying to understand mwave.bat, and can't tell the difference between "start" and "on", or what "reconfig" is for, or what "show" and "noshow" do in parameter 2 place. Similarly, what do I need to diddle in mwgames.bat? 2. When and how does one use the ibmadvesa advanced vesa support? I tried running tpadvesa.exe, but it said it was already running, even though it's not in autoexec.bat. 3. Should one run dos's power.exe, or is that redundant with those other two strange autoexec lines of v7320.exe (or something like that) that seem to be power managers? 4. Has anyone succeeded with running 11th Hour? 5. Does ps2 hfile_c need to be run each time you reboot? I understand it creates the hard disk memory map for sleep, but the size of it shouldn't change with each boot. 6. There are other similar arcane lines in the original autoexec.bat which I hesitate to remove, since there's no documentation. Thanks. -------------------------------- End of tp750 Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 17:18:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23999; Tue, 9 Apr 96 17:18:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19581; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:07:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:59:12 -0400 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17954; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:57:19 -0400 Received: by cicerone.uunet.ca id <166578-3>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:41:32 -0400 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: The Post Office Sender: mailer-daemon@cicerone.uunet.ca Subject: Unresolvable mail address Cc: The Post Office Message-Id: <96Apr9.164132edt.166578-3@cicerone.uunet.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:41:32 -0400 A copy of your message is being returned to you because one or more of the addresses you specified could not be recognized as addresses that are understood by, or reachable from, this system. 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This happens when your envelope address looks like user@site.dom, where site.dom is not a valid hostname. error: unresolvable: ebourne@fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca ------- Original Message follows ------- external rcvdfrom wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca ([192.139.233.5]) with SMTP from to Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA23626 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:40:47 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 2 Mar 1996 12:32:06 U From: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: tp750 digest for Sat, 0 To: "tp750-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP tp750 digest for Sat, 02 Mar 1996 !!! Original message was too large. !!! !!! It is contained in the enclosure whose name !!! is the same as the subject of this message. !!! !!! A preview of the message follows: Today's topics: Re: How to 28.8Kbps on Megahertz XJ2288 PCMCIA Modem? (Keith Patch) Re: Sleep mode on a 701 (image@dorsai.dorsai.org) 701C Battery Discharge (Emanuel Brown) Re: Sleep mode on a 701 (John H. Kim) Re: Sleep mode on a 701 (Emanuel Brown) RE: IBM 750CE PASSWORD (King, Randall) High Resolution & Refresh Options? (Skip Hovsmith) Re: 701C Battery Discharge (John H. Kim) Re: 701C Battery Discharge (Emanuel Brown) Call Out (Donnie Hagan) Re: TP750CE Password (Jonathan Berry) Re: How to 28.8Kbps on Megahertz XJ2288 PCMCIA Modem? (Doug Fairclough) ISA Display Adapters in Dock II (Michael Klenner) Re: doom2 (Doug Fairclough) ADMIN: open up the list to all thinkpads? (Keith Moore) 755CX/Dock II Runtime (Michael Klenner) Linux on the 750C? (Erik Lindahl) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ ------------------------------ Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> ------------------------------ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 14:06:38 -0500 From: Keith Patch To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C9ric_Tr=E9panier_=3Cetrepani=40qc.bell.ca=3E?=@shore.net CC: "'Mwave Distribution List'" , "'ThinkPad Distribution List'" Subject: Re: How to 28.8Kbps on Megahertz XJ2288 PCMCIA Modem? Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960301140624.391785f0@shell1.shore.net> At 10:12 AM 3/1/96 -0500, =C9ric Tr=E9panier wrote: ->Hello everyone, -> ->My ThinkPad (760CD) has Win95 configured with remote access to our company's LAN. -> ->I have the Mwave 2.1 drivers installed and a PCMCIA Megahertz XJ2288= modem. -> ->With the Mwave modem, I always connect with my host at 28800 bps. -> ->With the XJ2288 modem, only rarely do I connect at 28800. Most of the time it connects at 26400 and sometimes at even lower speeds. -> ->Why doesn't it connect at 28800 bps like the Mwave does? -> ->This is with the same telephone line and cable. -> ->Thanks for any help... -> ->Eric I personally think that the Mwave crew have a killer modem. My Aptiva Magic Mwave modem with the 1.3 Drivers _always_ connects at 28.8 to my local ISP. Using my Work Modem (Microcom Deskport Fast EP 28.8), I usually get a 26.4 connection, with thruputs rarely above 2.5K in Netscape 2.0. --Keith Keith D. Patch (e-mail patch@tecogen.com) ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 15:45:39 -0500 From: To: "John H. Kim" CC: "Julie A. Strietelmeier" , TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Sleep mode on a 701 Message-Id: On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, John H. Kim wrote: > Incidently, you can have different settings for when your 701 is > on AC or battery. So just because it doesn't sleep when on AC > doesn't mean it won't sleep when on battery. > -- How can you have different settings on ac or battery (didn't remember reading about it)....? Also is there any harm to leaving it on all the time? ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <199602281402.JAA18915@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 21:22:43 +0000 From: epbrown@suba.com (Emanuel Brown) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 701C Battery Discharge Message-Id: <31376790.18470288@mail.suba.com> Hello all, I seem to remember seeing John Kim mentioning a similar problem with his 701 on comp.sys.laptops, but not recieving any answer. Synopsis: My system has lately, on an intermittent basis, been shutting off with the claim that the battery's discharged, despite displaying an almost full charge only seconds before. I called IBM <<<<<< Attached TEXT file named "tp750 digest for Sat, 02 Mar 19" follows >>>>>> Received: by qmgate with SMTP;2 Mar 1996 12:22:07 U Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA16153 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:19:38 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28921; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:15:26 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:15:26 -0500 From: Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:15:25 -0500 To: tp750-digest-recipients:; Subject: tp750 digest for Sat, 02 Mar 1996 Reply-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" Message-Id: Today's topics: Re: How to 28.8Kbps on Megahertz XJ2288 PCMCIA Modem? (Keith Patch) Re: Sleep mode on a 701 (image@dorsai.dorsai.org) 701C Battery Discharge (Emanuel Brown) Re: Sleep mode on a 701 (John H. Kim) Re: Sleep mode on a 701 (Emanuel Brown) RE: IBM 750CE PASSWORD (King, Randall) High Resolution & Refresh Options? (Skip Hovsmith) Re: 701C Battery Discharge (John H. Kim) Re: 701C Battery Discharge (Emanuel Brown) Call Out (Donnie Hagan) Re: TP750CE Password (Jonathan Berry) Re: How to 28.8Kbps on Megahertz XJ2288 PCMCIA Modem? (Doug Fairclough) ISA Display Adapters in Dock II (Michael Klenner) Re: doom2 (Doug Fairclough) ADMIN: open up the list to all thinkpads? (Keith Moore) 755CX/Dock II Runtime (Michael Klenner) Linux on the 750C? (Erik Lindahl) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ ------------------------------ Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> ------------------------------ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 14:06:38 -0500 From: Keith Patch To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C9ric_Tr=E9panier_=3Cetrepani=40qc.bell.ca=3E?=@shore.net CC: "'Mwave Distribution List'" , "'ThinkPad Distribution List'" Subject: Re: How to 28.8Kbps on Megahertz XJ2288 PCMCIA Modem? Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960301140624.391785f0@shell1.shore.net> At 10:12 AM 3/1/96 -0500, =C9ric Tr=E9panier wrote: ->Hello everyone, -> ->My ThinkPad (760CD) has Win95 configured with remote access to our company's LAN. -> ->I have the Mwave 2.1 drivers installed and a PCMCIA Megahertz XJ2288= modem. -> ->With the Mwave modem, I always connect with my host at 28800 bps. -> ->With the XJ2288 modem, only rarely do I connect at 28800. Most of the time it connects at 26400 and sometimes at even lower speeds. -> ->Why doesn't it connect at 28800 bps like the Mwave does? -> ->This is with the same telephone line and cable. -> ->Thanks for any help... -> ->Eric I personally think that the Mwave crew have a killer modem. My Aptiva Magic Mwave modem with the 1.3 Drivers _always_ connects at 28.8 to my local ISP. Using my Work Modem (Microcom Deskport Fast EP 28.8), I usually get a 26.4 connection, with thruputs rarely above 2.5K in Netscape 2.0. --Keith Keith D. Patch (e-mail patch@tecogen.com) ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 15:45:39 -0500 From: To: "John H. Kim" CC: "Julie A. Strietelmeier" , TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Sleep mode on a 701 Message-Id: On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, John H. Kim wrote: > Incidently, you can have different settings for when your 701 is > on AC or battery. So just because it doesn't sleep when on AC > doesn't mean it won't sleep when on battery. > -- How can you have different settings on ac or battery (didn't remember reading about it)....? Also is there any harm to leaving it on all the time? ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <199602281402.JAA18915@CS.UTK.EDU> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 21:22:43 +0000 From: epbrown@suba.com (Emanuel Brown) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 701C Battery Discharge Message-Id: <31376790.18470288@mail.suba.com> Hello all, I seem to remember seeing John Kim mentioning a similar problem with his 701 on comp.sys.laptops, but not recieving any answer. Synopsis: My system has lately, on an intermittent basis, been shutting off with the claim that the battery's discharged, despite displaying an almost full charge only seconds before. I called IBM tech Monday, and they seem to feel I'd set up conflicting parameters in the BIOS. (I recently flashed up to 3o). While I did have battery mode set for Power Saver with sound, pcmcia, and modem off and AC mode for everything on and processor set to 25/50, I don't see how that could cause a problem. I shuffled the settings and things have been fine until today, when the laptop again shut off moments after reading that it had a 1:16 charge left. Since then, it's been fine, but I called IBM and now they want me to EZServe it. To me, this doesn't sound like hardware, because the problem is intermittent. It can't be the battery, I have to NiMHs and a "super" NiCad and it's done this to all of them. One tech implied the system isn't charging properly due to the DCD (?) card, and I have noticed that I have to jiggle the adapter a little to get the charging light to come on. Only other symptom I've noticed is occasional mouse rebellion - occasionally, while scrolling a document, the screen keeps scrolling after I stop clicking. Other times, during mouse-intensive operations, the system has locked up and had to reboot. This as all been since Monday. Any input? Emanuel epbrown@suba.com laptop central: www.suba.com/~epbrown/ ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 16:20:39 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Sleep mode on a 701 Message-Id: On Fri, 1 Mar 1996 image@dorsai.dorsai.org wrote: > On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, John H. Kim wrote: > > > Incidently, you can have different settings for when your 701 is > > on AC or battery. So just because it doesn't sleep when on AC > > doesn't mean it won't sleep when on battery. > > How can you have different settings on ac or battery (didn't remember > reading about it)....? If you go into Fn-F1, there's a Battery Power Mode setting and an External Power Mode setting. Depending on which mode the computer is currently in, one of these will have just one line, the other will have all its options fully listed. To modify the one-liner, highlight it and hit Enter. It's easy to miss because the two switch places if you change from AC to battery or vice versa. > Also is there any harm to leaving it on all the time? I've been leaving mine plugged for weeks on end since December and haven't noticed any degredation in battery life (measured with a stopwatch, not Fn-F2). I did the same thing on my TP750 and killed the battery within a month. -- John H. Kim "A citizen of America will cross the ocean to fight jokim@mit.edu for democracy, but won't cross the street to vote in jokim@tuna.mit.edu a national election." -- Bill Vaughan ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 21:28:51 +0000 From: epbrown@suba.com (Emanuel Brown) To: , tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Sleep mode on a 701 Message-Id: <31376b8c.19490246@mail.suba.com> On Fri, 1 Mar 1996 15:45:39 -0500 (est), you wrote: "How can you have different settings on ac or battery (didn't remember "reading about it)....? Also is there any harm to leaving it on all the time? " Fn+F1, then enter the settings for Battery Mode, scroll down to External Power Mode and enter *those* settings. The main screen will display which ever mode you're in, with just a line for the mode that's inactive. Emanuel epbrown@suba.com laptop central: www.suba.com/~epbrown/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 16:43:00 -0800 From: "King, Randall" To: TP750 Subject: RE: IBM 750CE PASSWORD Message-Id: <313799A4@Horizon.kodak.com> Ah, the return of the dreaded Supervisor password. If you want to continue to use the machine and hard drive DO NOT REPLACE THE SYSTEM BOARD! If you do the hard drive will never boot up again. In this case 'shell' means bare system (basically the system board in case). I have had a great deal of experience with those passwords on the machines. The Supervisor password is basically a combination of a Hard Drive password and a Power On password. If the shell has the same supervisor password as the hard drive, it will boot up seamlessly. If you go into E-Z Setup you will need the supervisor password to make any changes, but otherwise the system will work fine. If you move the hard drive into another machine, it will prompt you for a hard drive password, which is the supervisor password. If you put another hard drive in the shell, you will need the supervisor password, and then you will either have to clear it or add it to the new hard drive to continue. This ensures that the machines will never be broken up. If the system board is replaced the supervisor password will be removed from the shell, but not the hard drive. If the shell no longer has the supervisor password, when you boot up it will prompt you for a hard drive password. To date no one has cracked the hard drive passwords (alot of talk, but no one has _done_ it). In the case below, the supervisor password is not known, so the hard drive will be a paperweight if the system board loses the password. The supervisor password will allow you to get around the power on password of the machine. The idea is that the supervisor configures the system, and then gives it to the person. They put their own power-on password on, but the supervisor can always get into the system. Currently I know that the 755's, 750's, and 760's all have this functionality. I know that the 700's, 720's, and 360's do not. You cannot have a hard drive password and a supervisor password, as the supervisor password occupies the password 'location' on the hard drive. You will have to use a Power On password if you want to have a password, as the system has 'space' for both of those. Randall rjking@kodak.com rjking@servtech.com ps- going back to the holy grail of MWave, is there a FAQ on how to get it to work with DOS games? pps- I am getting locked up with my system when I pop in my IBM (!?!?) Ethernet card, and then use MWave stuff. It's goes for about 30 seconds, and then WHAMMO, the system locks. If I pop out the card it sometimes resumes. Anyone had this problem? ---------- From: owner-tp750 To: TP750 Subject: IBM 750CE PASSWORD Date: Thursday, February 29, 1996 5:18PM Help!!! We have an IBM 750ce laptop that we do not know the supervisor password. The orginal owner died. IBM tells us that we have to replace the motherboard and hard drive. We have already tried to disconnecting the internal batteries. Thanks James L. Peek jlpeek@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 13:57:53 -0800 From: Skip Hovsmith To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: High Resolution & Refresh Options? Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960301215753.006c9700@berlioz.nsc.com> We have a tp760cd in our lab with a dockII running win95. We would like to drive a high resolution monitor (1024x768 or greater) at a high refresh rate (72Hz or higher). Can we plug a video card into one of the isa slots and get this to work? Has anyone successfully done this, and if so, can you recommend any particular isa-bus video cards? Are there any other possible solutions? Thanks for the help. Regards, Skip Hovsmith Mobility Lab National Semiconductor Regards, Skip ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <31376790.18470288@mail.suba.com> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 17:00:10 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: Emanuel Brown CC: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C Battery Discharge Message-Id: On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Emanuel Brown wrote: > I seem to remember seeing John Kim mentioning a similar problem > with his 701 on comp.sys.laptops, but not recieving any answer. > Synopsis: > My system has lately, on an intermittent basis, been shutting off > with the claim that the battery's discharged, despite displaying an > almost full charge only seconds before. Well, I was only responding to someone else who had the problem. I've experienced it once though. I was on a plane and discharged a battery until the computer auto-suspended. I replaced it with my second battery and ran that to about 20%. When I got home, I completely charged the second battery. I then popped in the first battery to charge it and was surprised to see 100%. I turned it off and back on and it still said 100%. Furthermore, it wasn't charging. I was certain I had only charged the second battery, but just to be sure I popped it in. 100%, and I had only had time to charge one battery so I knew the first battery was still discharged. I put the first battery back in (still saying 100%) and let the computer sit. It seemed to be discharging as if full, then 10 minutes later it went from 3:02 left to 0:00 and suspended. After that, it recharged normally and I haven't had the problem again. Since it's possible for the battery to say 100% when it isn't really at 100%, that might account for why it seems to die with 30+% or an hour left. For some reason it thinks it's reached 100% charge when it's only at 70%. That stops the battery from charging futher. Then when discharging it estimates time from 100%, meaning the battery is drained when the computer thinks there's 30% left. I'm rather curious how the computer comes up with these numbers. -- John H. Kim "A citizen of America will cross the ocean to fight jokim@mit.edu for democracy, but won't cross the street to vote in jokim@tuna.mit.edu a national election." -- Bill Vaughan ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 22:32:01 +0000 From: epbrown@suba.com (Emanuel Brown) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C Battery Discharge Message-Id: <31377923.22969250@mail.suba.com> On Fri, 1 Mar 1996 17:00:10 -0500 (EST), John H. Kim wrote: "Since it's possible for the battery to say 100% when it isn't really at "100%, that might account for why it seems to die with 30+% or an hour "left. For some reason it thinks it's reached 100% charge when it's only "at 70%. That stops the battery from charging futher. Then when "discharging it estimates time from 100%, meaning the battery is drained "when the computer thinks there's 30% left. I'm rather curious how the "computer comes up with these numbers. John, Thanks for your comments. The implication seems to be that the 701 gets confused when you switch batteries. I've never encountered this problem before, and only recently bought my 2 NiMHs, and it was just in the past week that I first started using both, never needing more than 3 hours at a time. So, how does the computer track power available - the battery or the system? Maybe we've found a bug. Is anyone regularly swapping batteries who's *never* had this happen? PS: I'm going to post this to comp.sys.laptops for more replies. Emanuel epbrown@suba.com laptop central: www.suba.com/~epbrown/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 18:17:15 -0600 From: Donnie Hagan To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Call Out Message-Id: <199603020017.SAA20707@occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net> I have a voicemail system on my desktop that will let me record a message and will call a list of numbers and when they answer it will say "I have an important message for you please press one". When they do it will play my message for them. If they do not press one it will recall later. I have a 755 laptop with Faxworks. Does anyone know of software or hardware that I can get to do the same on 755? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 17:38:54 -0800 From: Jonathan Berry To: TP750@cs.utk.edu CC: jberry@bbs.sd68.nanaimo.bc.ca Subject: Re: TP750CE Password Message-Id: <0099EB1E.6CDCBAF8.46@bbs.sd68.nanaimo.bc.ca> > Help!!! We have an IBM 750ce laptop that we do not know the supervisor > password. The orginal owner died. IBM tells us that we have to replace > the motherboard and hard drive. We have already tried to disconnecting > the internal batteries. You checked the front page of the deceased's daytimer and slips of paper in his wallet and in the drawer of his desk? Safety-deposit box? If the supervisor password is supervisor-determined, you might collect all the personal words of the deceased and hire somebody at $8 an hour to enter them for a day. A $64 gamble. Children's names, mother's maiden name, pet name, telephone number. We all saw the movie War Games. We all know that you're SUPPOSED to have a nonsensical password like z%t#qbxt (interesting that these are all left hand keys...encryption controlled by the right brain? Makes sense to me!), but how many of us really do? Could you find the password by appropriately reprogramming the EPROM BIOS? Isn't it axiomatic that, given enough time and access, any security measure can be defeated? Not that I'd know how. Jonathan Berry ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <01BB0757.982DACE0@blmi01-s05.QC.Bell.CA> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 18:25:16 -0800 From: Doug Fairclough To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C9ric_Tr=E9panier?= CC: "'Mwave Distribution List'" , "'ThinkPad Distribution List'" Subject: Re: How to 28.8Kbps on Megahertz XJ2288 PCMCIA Modem? Message-Id: i have the same exact thing happen to me - 26400 on the XJ2288. always. doug On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C9ric_Tr=E9panier?= wrote: > Hello everyone, > > My ThinkPad (760CD) has Win95 configured with remote access to our company's LAN. > > I have the Mwave 2.1 drivers installed and a PCMCIA Megahertz XJ2288 modem. > > With the Mwave modem, I always connect with my host at 28800 bps. > > With the XJ2288 modem, only rarely do I connect at 28800. Most of the time it connects at 26400 and sometimes at even lower speeds. > > Why doesn't it connect at 28800 bps like the Mwave does? > > This is with the same telephone line and cable. > > Thanks for any help... > > Eric > > +---------------------+-----------------------------------+-----------------+ > | Eric Trepanier | The opinions expressed above | Advertize Here! | > | etrepani@qc.bell.ca | are my own and do not represent | | > | (514) 391-8126 | my company's opinions in any way. | | > +---------------------+-----------------------------------+-----------------+ > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 21:55:13 -0500 From: Michael Klenner To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: ISA Display Adapters in Dock II Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960302025513.00676244@is.nyu.edu> Hi folks, I recently added a really nice NEC MultiSync 3FGe monitor to my 755cx/Dock II setup and was disappointed with the refresh rate/flicker coming from the onboard video circuitry in the 755, so I'm now considering trying run an ISA card in the Dock which supports higher refresh rates. It so happens that someone on the list asked about doing this recenly, and I recalled having read about someone who managed to do it several months ago. Anyway, I decided to dive into the archives anf find it. Here's the resulting pertinant info: >To: tp750@cs.utk.edu >From: Ted Frederick >Subject: 3rd party display adapter > > >I'm glowing with pride... > >I accomplished what IBM indicated was "impossible with the ThinkPad >architecture". I successfully installed and configured an ISA, 3rd party >graphics adapter in my Dock II. I now have 1280x1024x8bpp, 1024x768x16bpp, >800x600x24bpp and 640x480x32bpp with my 755CDV (& external monitor) >operational in Win 95. > >This was needed because I give presentations in 16-bit color, however, I >needed a large desktop to create the presentations with the desired color >depth so I didn't have to undock or reboot windows to see what they would >look like at the 16bpp level. > >I tried several display adapters (the hard part was finding high-performance >ISA display cards). > >The following cards worked: > >* Hercules Dynamite Pro 2MB - 87Hz *interlaced* at 1024x768x16bpp, however >(Back it went) ;-\ > >* STB Nitro 64 2MB - Use the drivers that ship with Win95, not the Win95 >drivers that come with the card - compatibility issues. At $189 it's a >keeper! I get faster performance from the Nitro through an ISA bus than I >do with the internal VLB WD driver on the flat-panel! > >The following didn't work at all: > >Any display card made by ATI. I tried 3 different ones and nearly every >case the system wouldn't even boot! > >I don't want to bore everyone on the list with any more info, however, if >you are interested, e-mail me and I'll tell you how I did it and give some >tips on how to make the installation go smoothly in Win95. > >Regards, >-Ted Thanks Ted! I think I'm going to try and dig up one of these STB units. --- Michael Klenner East: klennerm@is.nyu.edu New York University West: mklenner@pacificnet.net Tisch School of the Arts http://pages.nyu.edu/~mdk1143 Institute of Film & Television talk: michael@24frames.com --- ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <199603011045.TAA15367@edo.tokyo.tcs.co.jp> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 19:10:27 -0800 From: Doug Fairclough To: Lee Hounshell CC: mgilula@gate.net, TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: doom2 Message-Id: just noticed after fishing around in dos, that c:\mwd directory does not exist, though it is included in the path. should this be there ? the only devices my config.sys is loading as relating to sound is: device=c:\mww\manager\mwdp0400.exe autoexec has : :games set blaster = A220 I5 D1 T1 but msd.exe indicates that irq5 is assigned to LPT1: and is not detected. any help mooka appreciated ! doug On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Lee Hounshell wrote: > >anything special to get sound ? > > I attach my 755C to a dock-II equipped with an AWE-32 Soundblaster > and get pretty decent sound.... > > -Lee > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 11:05:41 -0500 From: Keith Moore Reply-To: moore@cs.utk.edu To: tp750@cs.utk.edu CC: moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: ADMIN: open up the list to all thinkpads? Message-Id: <199603021605.LAA24677@wilma.cs.utk.edu> I propose changing the list to encompass all IBM ThinkPads. The newer models are all worthy of discussion, even if they're not close cousins to the tp750. While I'm still concerned about confusion between different model lines, I can't think of a good way to widen the list to include new models while restricting the scope of the list to exclude completely wierd things like the tp720. So maybe it's simpler to allow anything with the name ThinkPad. comments? objections? Send me private mail, so we don't clutter up the list with meta-issues. Keith -------- Take the pledge! "I do not limit my speech to satisfy the whims of Congress." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 11:58:46 -0500 From: Michael Klenner To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755CX/Dock II Runtime Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960302165846.006860f0@is.nyu.edu> Hi again, Now that my 755cx SVGA is truely serving as both a laptop and a pretty damned good desktop replacement; (it has 32 megs RAM, 810 Meg internal HDD, 1 Gig external SCSI HDD, 4x SCSI CD-ROM, PCMCIA Ethernet, and NEC 3FGe 15" Monitor), I wonder if it's really a good idea to treat it exactly as I would treat a desktop system. That is, can I safely leave it up an running 24/7 as do with my desktop, or are there heat dissipation issues that would make this a bad idea? I know that IBM doesn't really warrant these things for "continuous operation" but I wish them luck enforcing such an exclusion. Also, if I can leave the thing up all the time, should I leave its Li-Ion battery inside, or remove it until such a time as I'm going on the hoof? (Li-Ion bricks tend to lose charge fairly quickly if not used, so I would like to leave it in if there's no harm done to the battery or the system.) Thanks a bunch. --- Michael Klenner East: klennerm@is.nyu.edu New York University West: mklenner@pacificnet.net Tisch School of the Arts http://pages.nyu.edu/~mdk1143 Institute of Film & Television talk: michael@24frames.com --- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 18:02:32 +0100 From: Erik Lindahl To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux on the 750C? Message-Id: <199603021702.SAA06404@kobra.efd.lth.se> Hi, I've finally taken the jump to linux. It installs fine on the 750C, if you use the thinkpad bootdisk. Now, a while ago there was quite a lot of linux issues here. Where have they moved? Is there a linux-tp mailing list? My current problem is with the APM and PCMCIA parts. Any comments? (Oh btw, I'm running 1.3.68, APM is in the kernel.) regards, Erik -------------------------------- End of tp750 Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 17:18:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24151; Tue, 9 Apr 96 17:18:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19564; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:06:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:59:10 -0400 Received: from relay6.UU.NET (relay6.UU.NET [192.48.96.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17973; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:57:27 -0400 Received: from localhost by relay6.UU.NET with internal id QQaksx16562; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:57:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:57:05 -0400 (EDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@uunet.uu.net (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca: host not found) Message-Id: To: Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) The original message was received at Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:56:45 -0400 (EDT) from wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca [192.139.233.5] ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 ... Host unknown (Name server: fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca: host not found) ----- Original message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: from wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca by relay6.UU.NET with SMTP id QQaksx16460; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:56:45 -0400 (EDT) From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA24636 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:56:40 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 28 Mar 1996 12:33:55 U Subject: thinkpad digest for Thu To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Thu, 28 Mar 1996 Today's topics: Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard? (Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) 755C Hard Drive/IDE Adapter? (Michael Gross) Re: 755C Hard Drive/IDE Adapter? (Michael Klenner) ADMIN: suggestion (Don Whiteside) IDE vs. SCSI PCMCIA (Brian K. Tarkington) Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard? (Steve Hultquist) Zenith Z-player (Michael Raine) w95 and suspend mode, am i doing something wrong? (Paul Rubin) subscribe (Alva H Taylor) Re: ADMIN: suggestion (Joseph Christie) Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard? (Jeffrey Friedl) Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard? (Ken Yee) (Gabriel Ash) (Glen craney) (Dennis Pantazis) subscribe (Maurice klein Gebbinck) Re: 755C Hard Drive/IDE Adapter? (King, Randall) thinkpad mailing list (Jarno Huuskonen) subscribe (John D. Griffith) subscribe (Christian N Michalek) (Mark A Osinski) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --96032812150223494 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --96032812150223494 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: 27 Mar 1996 12:27:59 -0500 From: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus To: michey CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard? Message-Id: <9603271726.AA05583@internet1.lotus.com> I have no problems with the IBM Ethernet II Credit Card Adapter. It retails for about $200(US) but can be had for a lot less if you shop around. -Bill michey @ prz.tu-berlin.de 03-27-96 03:24 PM To: thinkpad @ cs.utk.edu @ INTERNET cc: (bcc: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Subject: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard? Hello, I'm looking for a pcmcia-ethernetcard for a tp 755cx (24MB,500GB), which should work with OS/2 and Linux. Who knows which work/don't work/are preferable? Thanks in advance! Gruss Michael -------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Michael Eyrich Technische Universitaet Berlin, Deutschland * * michey@{cs,prz}.tu-berlin.de Fachbereich Informatik (13) * * Tel: 030 / 314 26 713 He 104 (Galerie) Prozessrechenzentrum TU Berlin * -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 10:35:16 -0800 From: Michael Gross To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755C Hard Drive/IDE Adapter? Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960327183516.002a4a68@popd.ix.netcom.com> Could someone steer me to a source for the IDE adapter which will allow me to mount the Thinkpad hard drive into a desktop system? Thanks in advance/Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:14:38 -0500 From: Michael Klenner To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755C Hard Drive/IDE Adapter? Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960327191438.0068b688@is.nyu.edu> >Could someone steer me to a source for the IDE adapter which will allow me >to mount the Thinkpad hard drive into a desktop system? Thanks in >advance/Michael I second this request. --- Michael Klenner East: klennerm@is.nyu.edu New York University West: mklenner@pacificnet.net Tisch School of the Arts http://pages.nyu.edu/~mdk1143 Institute of Film & Television talk: michael@24frames.com --- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 10:02:41 -0500 From: "Don Whiteside" Reply-To: dwhite@shadow.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ADMIN: suggestion Message-Id: <199603271923.OAA01374@anshar.shadow.net> Given the recent spate of pranks involving people being signed up for mailing lists against their will (Rush Limbaugh and Emmanuel Goldstein were both victims with the result being 300+ messages an hour) I think we should steal a good idea another list I'm one uses Namely adding to the header: X-Comment: TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email "unsub poly" to listserv@lupine.org Obviously we should tailor it to let people know how to unsub from OUR list, but you get the idea. If you're not familiar with the way SMTP handles headers, you don't see this unless you make a specific effort to do so - it's not displayed normally. While many people won't think to look there, it makes sure the information is available to those in the know. Just a suggestion. ========================================================================= Don Whiteside, professional computer jockey. Kids, don't try this at home Penis ownership is not a prerequisite to technological competence." - Me ========================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:44:36 -0800 From: bktarkington@ucdavis.edu (Brian K. Tarkington) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: IDE vs. SCSI PCMCIA Message-Id: I'm considering a cdrom drive with an IDE pcmcia connection for my ThinkPad. Can someone comment on how the speed would compare to an arrangement using a SCSI pcmcia adapter, say the Adaptec 1460? Thanks, Brian _______________________ Brian K. Tarkington University of California at Davis bktarkington@ucdavis.edu 74033.2574@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:10:52 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard? Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960327221052.00e9c6c8@[166.93.8.14]> At 03:24 PM 3/27/96 +0100, michey@prz.tu-berlin.de wrote: >I'm looking for a pcmcia-ethernetcard for a tp 755cx (24MB,500GB), >which should work with OS/2 and Linux. > >Who knows which work/don't work/are preferable? 3Com. Don't even mess with any others. Cheers, sh -- Steve Hultquist Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Distributed Systems and Internet Engineering Boulder, Colorado ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 17:14:17 -0600 From: Michael Raine To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Zenith Z-player Message-Id: Hello, I recently bought a Z-Player for my TP701 (well, the price was good). After adding a couple of switches to the pcmcia drivers, I can see the cdrom under DOS and windows. Trouble is, I can't stop the audio portion of the Z-player from interfering with the Thinkpad's built in audio (sounds won't play when the Z-player is plugged in). I could disable the TP audio, but if I did that I'd only have sound when the Z-player was attached (wouldn't I?). Does anyone know of a way to keep the TP audio and just use the CD-ROM portion of the z-player? I asked IBM and Zenith but they didn't know if it was possible. TIA, Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:51:28 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: w95 and suspend mode, am i doing something wrong? Message-Id: <199603280051.QAA29809@netcom9.netcom.com> When I enter suspend mode on my 755cx under windows 95, either by hitting alt-f4 or by selecting "suspend" in the start menu, the screen blanks and a moment later the disk spins down as expected. But much later--like minutes or hours--the disk starts spinning again (with the screen still dark). This doesn't really seem like suspend mode to me. Any advice? Thanks. PS, I'm using w95 because of a project I'm doing for work... the UI is slick but I'm still eager to switch back to Linux... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:52:11 -0800 From: Alva H Taylor To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: <199603280052.QAA10288@elaine48.Stanford.EDU> subscribe ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <199603271923.OAA01374@anshar.shadow.net> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 01:22:59 +0000 From: christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ADMIN: suggestion Message-Id: <3159e914.22106653@unix.asb.com> On Wed, 27 Mar 1996 10:02:41 -0500, you wrote: >Given the recent spate of pranks involving people being signed up for >mailing lists against their will (Rush Limbaugh and Emmanuel >Goldstein were both victims with the result being 300+ messages an >hour) I think we should steal a good idea another list I'm one uses >Namely adding to the header: > >X-Comment: TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email "unsub poly" to listserv@lupine.org > >Obviously we should tailor it to let people know how to unsub from >OUR list, but you get the idea. If you're not familiar with the way >SMTP handles headers, you don't see this unless you make a specific >effort to do so - it's not displayed normally. > >While many people won't think to look there, it makes sure the >information is available to those in the know. > >Just a suggestion. >========================================================================= >Don Whiteside, professional computer jockey. Kids, don't try this at home >Penis ownership is not a prerequisite to technological competence." - Me >========================================================================= > There was a problem with the listserver for the ibm-java lists so they now have the list server append the following to every message posted to the list quote mode on ..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To unsubscribe from this mailing list ( ibm-java-os2 ), please send a note to majordomo@hursley.ibm.com with the following message in the body of the note unsubscribe ibm-java-os2 quote mode off ..... This is quite painless since they do it automatically and it is impossible to miss since it is an extra sig and not in the header. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 423B78C80FEA5495 http://www.asb.com/usr/christij/index.htm CF64AD5F214797DE ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960327221052.00e9c6c8@[166.93.8.14]> (message from Steve Hultquist on Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:10:52 -0700) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:44:43 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard? Message-Id: <199603280344.MAA04743@tubby.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> Steve Hultquist wrote: |> >I'm looking for a pcmcia-ethernetcard for a tp 755cx (24MB,500GB), |> >which should work with OS/2 and Linux. |> > |> >Who knows which work/don't work/are preferable? |> |> 3Com. Don't even mess with any others. Well, my IBM one works fine (Linux/DOS/Windoze, but I'd expect OS/2 would be fine, considering it's IBM). Jeffrey --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <199603280344.MAA04743@tubby.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> from "Jeffrey Friedl" at Mar 28, 96 12:44:43 pm Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:14:01 -0500 From: kenyee@leftbank.com (Ken Yee) To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, cs@xircom.com Subject: Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard? Message-Id: <9603280414.AA02969@leftbank.com> > Steve Hultquist wrote: > |> >I'm looking for a pcmcia-ethernetcard for a tp 755cx (24MB,500GB), > |> >which should work with OS/2 and Linux. > |> > > |> >Who knows which work/don't work/are preferable? Don't get a Xircom for OS/2. They never finished their OS/2 Card and Socket Services driver (after releasing their initial OS/2 driver 2 years ago). What this means is that if you pull out the card while OS/2 is running, it'll lock up; ditto if you insert it. If you come out of hibernation, the card also does not get reinitialized, so you have to reboot OS/2. Hopefully, their 100Mbps card will have better OS/2 support, but I doubt it... ken p.s., IBM's ethernet card works for the above test cases if you use fixpack 17... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 01:54:59 -0500 From: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) Reply-To: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <199603280654.BAA27059@judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu> SUBSCRIBE ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:07:05 -0800 From: glencc@ix.netcom.com (Glen craney) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <199603280707.XAA10838@dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com> SUBSCRIBE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 02:00:57 -0600 From: Dennis Pantazis To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: subscribe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:19:59 +0100 From: Maurice klein Gebbinck To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: <315A59BF.167EB0E7@cs.kun.nl> subscribe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:24:00 -0800 From: "King, Randall" To: THINKPAD Subject: Re: 755C Hard Drive/IDE Adapter? Message-Id: <315ABD68@Horizon.kodak.com> >>Could someone steer me to a source for the IDE adapter which will allow me >>to mount the Thinkpad hard drive into a desktop system? Thanks in >>advance/Michael >I second this request. I third the request. I had a couple of stores that I called to try and get it, but I have had no luck. To stop the flow of requests that may come into me, here is one of the stores that supposedly has this magical adapter: Micro Sense, Inc. 370 Andrew Ave. Leucadia, CA 92024 800-544-4252 Just ask them for a 2.5"->standard IDE connector for a thinkpad hard drive. I believe it was less that $20. If someone actually can get through to these guys, can you post the manufacturer of the part and the part number? I called the store a few months ago, and asked them who made it. They wouldn't give me the manufacturer, and would only say 'Oh, it's somebody up the coast.' I have been searching for this holy grail for a while. Be warned, there is an external adapter that they may try to sell you. While the internal costs about $20, the external costs about $200. If someone already has an internal adapter, please send me the manufacturer and part number. Randall rjking@kodak.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 15:51:11 +0200 From: Jarno Huuskonen To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: thinkpad mailing list Message-Id: subscribe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:04:19 -0500 From: "John D. Griffith" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: <199603281458.AA27520@kodakr.kodak.com> subscribe John D. Griffith Optical Design Department Eastman Kodak Company griffith@kodak.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:50:15 -0600 From: Christian N Michalek To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: subscribe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:37:32 -0600 From: Mark A Osinski To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <315ac04e4b41002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> subscribe -------------------------------- --96032812150223494-- End of thinkpad Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 17:20:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24272; Tue, 9 Apr 96 17:20:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20449; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:12:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:07:15 -0400 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18332; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:59:44 -0400 Received: by cicerone.uunet.ca id <166621-5>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:52:56 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: The Post Office Sender: mailer-daemon@cicerone.uunet.ca Subject: Unresolvable mail address Cc: The Post Office Message-Id: <96Apr9.165256edt.166621-5@cicerone.uunet.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:52:56 -0400 A copy of your message is being returned to you because one or more of the addresses you specified could not be recognized as addresses that are understood by, or reachable from, this system. 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This happens when your envelope address looks like user@site.dom, where site.dom is not a valid hostname. error: unresolvable: ebourne@fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca ------- Original Message follows ------- external rcvdfrom wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca ([192.139.233.5]) with SMTP from to Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA24386 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:52:23 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 1 Apr 1996 12:40:30 U From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinkpad digest for Mon To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Mon, 01 Apr 1996 Today's topics: subscribe (Sherwin Lee) Hard disk drives in Thinkpad (Murray Clarke) Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 31 Mar 1996 (Randall Downer) Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 31 Mar 1996 (David Whiting) (Maddog) Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 31 Mar 1996 (Rev. Ben) OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (Paulo Magalhaes) new member (John Joowon Lee) MS apps on Solaris x86 (John Joowon Lee) Charging 701C when powered off? (Vaidy Sunderam) Installing from Harddisk (michey@prz.tu-berlin.de) RE: ADMIN: Another mailing list suggestion (Scott.Newman) Re: Charging 701C when powered off? (John H. Kim) Re: Charging 701C when powered off? (Robert Dewar) Re: Charging 701C when powered off? (Michael Klenner) Re: Charging 701C when powered off? (Christian N Michalek) Re: Charging 701C when powered off? (John H. Kim) Re: Charging 701C when powered off? (Christian N Michalek) Re: MS apps on Solaris x86 (Vince Wayland) Battery Rejuvenation... (Patrick Hong) 750s round the world (Victor Kress) Re: 750s round the world (Gen Cerf) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --9604011215029891 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --9604011215029891 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:28:33 -0800 From: Sherwin Lee To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: subscribe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 08:16:20 +1000 From: Murray Clarke To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu CC: D.Popovic@civil.su.oz.au Subject: Hard disk drives in Thinkpad Message-Id: <9603312216.AA05454@mod.civil.su.OZ.AU> I have a Thinkpad 755CE and wish to upgrade the hard disk drive from 540 MB to 1.2GB. The prices of these drives as quoted from IBM or a third party, which include the (proprietary) caddy that houses the drive, are quite expensive. It is my understanding, however, that the drive itself is a standard 2.5" drive. I would like to know if anyone has had experience in opening the plastic caddy that houses the drive and installing a 2.5" inch drive of higher capacity. What sort of drives are recommended? Murray Clarke ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:47:14 -0500 From: biosas@netcom.com (Randall Downer) To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU, David Whiting Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 31 Mar 1996 Message-Id: >I have successfully installed linux on my 755Cs, but cannot get X-windows >to work properly. I've read the Linux-on-ThinkPad FAQ at >http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse/linux, but my netscape won't properly >download tpdualscan or XF86_SVGA. For some reason, I cannot even compile >tpdualscan.c properly. Is there an ftp site where I can retrieve these >files? I believe this is all I need to get up-and-running. > >Thanks, > >David David, give me your linux kernal version and the EXACT X problem and I will send you either source or a compiled version of tpdualscan that will solve the problem. Randy... ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: (biosas@netcom.com) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:02:44 -0700 From: David Whiting To: biosas@netcom.com CC: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 31 Mar 1996 Message-Id: <9603312302.AA26956@stata2.byu.edu> >Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:47:14 -0500 >From: biosas@netcom.com (Randall Downer) >X-Sender: biosas@127.0.0.1 > >David, give me your linux kernal version and the EXACT X problem and I will >send you either source or a compiled version of tpdualscan that will solve >the problem. > >Randy... > I'm running 1.2.13 (ELF) from the Slackware 3.0 distribution. The exact problem is I run startx and get garbage on my screen (it looks like two sets of shimmering horizontal lines, one at the top of the screen and the other about halfway down). Will tpdualscan fix this? Do I also need a patched XF86_SVGA? Thanks for the help. David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:24:36 -0600 From: "Maddog" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Message-Id: <30B9E237AFF@shocker.ee.twsu.edu> subscribe ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <9603312302.AA26956@stata2.byu.edu> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:21:26 -0500 From: "Rev. Ben" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 31 Mar 1996 Message-Id: > I'm running 1.2.13 (ELF) from the Slackware 3.0 distribution. The exact > problem is I run startx and get garbage on my screen (it looks like two > sets of shimmering horizontal lines, one at the top of the screen and the > other about halfway down). > > Will tpdualscan fix this? Do I also need a patched XF86_SVGA? What *IS* tpdualscan? I'm running FreeBSD 2.1.0-R with XF86 3.12 on my TP701CS(DSTN) and I don't have any problems with X. Ben. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 06:44:42 +0200 From: Paulo Magalhaes To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! Message-Id: <9604010444.AA05505@biobase.dk> Ok, after too long a delay I finally found the time to install OS/2 Warp Connect on my little TP750Cs. I set the weekend aside, told friends and relatives that I was going away for the weekend, backed up all the data, read the manual, and sat down full of optimism... Never made it past the first diskette! My trustworthy Panasonic KXL-D720 CD-ROM (at least it is so under DOS/Windows) remained invisible... I tried all the tricks in my book: from re-reading the manual to minor modifications in the config.sys; from cursing to sweet-talking the machine into just taking a brief, brief look at the nice little CD-ROM player sitting next to it. Nothing would remove the cloak of invisibility from the poor Panasonic... Help! How do I install an OS that comes in a CD-ROM when the #&@$(&? thing wont even see the CD-ROM player? (Yes, it is plugged in, and ON!!!) Thank you, and forgive the warped (oh, that word again!!!) sense of humour: it is the frustration of many hours sitting in front of this machine... PS. I seem to remember someone asking me how to do this a few months back - ahh... Perhaps you gave up in desperation too!... -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 02:02:00 -0500 From: John Joowon Lee Reply-To: jjl9@msc.cornell.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu CC: jjl9@lynx.msc.cornell.edu (John Joowon Lee) Subject: new member Message-Id: <199604010702.HAA20303@skeeve.msc.cornell.edu> Hello, I've owned my ThinkPad 755C for about half a year now, but I've only recently discovered this mailing list. As suggested by the welcome-email from the mailing list, I introduce my machine. It has a DX4 processor, 20MB of RAM (Kensington) and a 340MB hard-drive. Most of the drive is dedicated for use with Linux 1.2.8 and portions of Slackware 2.3. The remainder of the drive is partitioned for DOS 6.x and Windows 3.11. I'm primarily a user of flavors of UNIX and I've been quite happy with Linux. I've noticed that about every 50 hours of uptime, however, that Linux continuously accesses the hard-drive for several minutes; except for olvwm and xterm, there is no correlation with running applications. I haven't yet figured out what processes are involved. I am naive with UNIX system administration; if someone should have an idea about what Linux is doing, I would like to be educated. I recently considered purchasing another hard-drive. I provide some brief commentary for the possible benefit of others of the mailing list who have been mentioning hard-drive issues. An article in PC Magazine, in August of 1995, noted that IBM substantially raises prices on peripheral components for machines sometime shortly after production of the machines ceases. I've verified the after-effects on prices for hard-drives for pre-755 ThinkPads in vendors' advertisements (about a %50 premium per MB of disk). The supply of new 755 ThinkPads has recently been discontinued, so I considered getting an extra drive for my future storage needs. Others looking for reasonable prices on hard-drives may wish to confer the FAQ for this mailing list for information on a third-party vendor (an IBM supplier) which has arranged a discount for members of this mailing list (cf. ftp://swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu/archive/thinkpad/faq/ and search for 'third-party'). I've also noticed another company advertise the installation of Toshiba 2.5" hard-drives into ThinkPad-compatible caddies (http://warrior.com/lock/tl750.html) at prices which are competitive. Finally, the archives for this mailing list from the last year contain some discussions about other experiences in installing third-party 2.5" hard-drives, including one person who couldn't get his third-party drive to spin-down in suspend-mode (cf. the welcome-email to this mailing list for a URL). Ultimately, I decided that as the need arises, I will just purchase a removable-medium device like Iomega's JAZ drive (an external box), which for about $725 provides 1GB of storage with disk access speeds which are faster than my ThinkPad's hard-drive (about 5MBps). This month's BYTE magazine discusses the JAZ drive. John Lee jjl9@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 02:46:29 -0500 From: John Joowon Lee Reply-To: jjl9@msc.cornell.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: MS apps on Solaris x86 Message-Id: <199604010746.HAA35560@skeeve.msc.cornell.edu> Hello, I recall that Steve Hurl* expressed, not long ago, that it would be useful to run MS Office on Linux. I thought I might point out that SunSoft of Sun Microsystems has Solaris 2.5 available for the *86 architecture; Solaris can run WABI, which is capable of running quite a number of Windows applications, but only those developed for Windows 3.*. For a URL with information, goto http://www.yahoo.com and search for 'Solaris'. BYTE magazine had a review of WABI in the summer of 1995, encouragingly entitled 'A Less Wobbly WABI'. (I have no affiliation with Sun.) John Lee jjl9@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 07:20:31 -0500 From: Vaidy Sunderam To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Charging 701C when powered off? Message-Id: <199604011220.HAA10866@thud.cs.utk.edu> Hi, When I plug my 701C to the ac adapter, it w#008#seems to charge the battery only when the computer is powered on. Has anyone encountered this or know how to fix it? Thanks Vaidy Sunderam ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 15:42:55 +0200 From: To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Installing from Harddisk Message-Id: <199604011342.PAA22801@tubkom.prz.tu-berlin.de> Yes, I'm very happy that I can install from PCMCIA-SCSI-CDROM (with minor changes to the config.sys during install)! But ... a copy of my preinstalled system is on harddisk, not on cdrom, and I don't want to built disketts and install from these. How can I tell the installprogram to access my harddisk (pcmcia scsi, e:/755cx/disketts/os2v3/)? Thanks for your help! Gruss Michael -------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Michael Eyrich Technische Universitaet Berlin, Deutschland * * michey@{cs,prz}.tu-berlin.de Fachbereich Informatik (13) * * Tel: 030 / 314 26 713 He 104 (Galerie) Prozessrechenzentrum TU Berlin * -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 08:57:18 -0500 From: "Scott.Newman" To: "'THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: ADMIN: Another mailing list suggestion Message-Id: I have been trying to automatically process incoming posts from this mailing list, as well. Due to the way in which my gateway/mail software (MS Exchange) works, I continue to grow my list of possible 'To' addresses that could be used for this list. Unfortunately, I think that I am seeing any aliases people have defined for this list. After two weeks, I have accumulated the following list of addresses: tp750@cs.utk.edu Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu "Thinkpad List" tp750 "ThinkPad mailing list" thinkpad Using this list, I have been able to catch all posts on this list in the last five days or so. However, I expect it will have to grow. I think it would be great if posts from this list came through with a single 'To' address, but I haven't looked into it enough to confirm that the problem isn't somewhere at my end of the food chain. Scott Newman >---------- >From: billy@mix.com[SMTP:billy@mix.com] >Sent: March 29, 1996 3:06 PM >To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Re: ADMIN: Another mailing list suggestion > >> Many mailing lists to which I belong manipulate the SMTP (or whatever) >> header information so that the From: information is shown to be the >> mailing list itself, instead of the individual person sending the message. > >I strongly object to this, if only becuase I prefer to see who sent >what, >but it makes a real mess out of many other things too. Better to get >some >software that can look at who it's TO, not FROM. For instance, here is >the >header from what you sent - > >> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > >Billy Y.. > > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <199604011220.HAA10866@thud.cs.utk.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 09:16:00 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: Vaidy Sunderam CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? Message-Id: On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Vaidy Sunderam wrote: > When I plug my 701C to the ac adapter, it seems to charge > the battery only when the computer is powered on. Has anyone > encountered this or know how to fix it? Thanks This is normal. The battery will only charge with the computer on or in suspend. Dunno about hibernate but I doubt it'll charge. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 09:19:51 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu, sunderam@cs.utk.edu CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? Message-Id: <9604011419.AA07339@nile.gnat.com> "This is normal. The battery will only charge with the computer on or in suspend. Dunno about hibernate but I doubt it'll charge." Really?? that's certainly not true on a 700, 720, 755 or 760. Sounds like a real disadvantage of the 701. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 09:32:33 -0500 From: Michael Klenner To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960401143233.0068eff8@is.nyu.edu> At 09:19 AM 4/1/96 EST, you wrote: >"This is normal. The battery will only charge with the computer on >or in suspend. Dunno about hibernate but I doubt it'll charge." > >Really?? that's certainly not true on a 700, 720, 755 or 760. Sounds >like a real disadvantage of the 701. Not true wih my '55cx either. --- Michael Klenner East: klennerm@is.nyu.edu New York University West: mklenner@pacificnet.net Tisch School of the Arts http://pages.nyu.edu/~mdk1143 Institute of Film & Television talk: michael@24frames.com --- ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <9604011419.AA07339@nile.gnat.com> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 08:43:37 -0600 From: Christian N Michalek To: Robert Dewar CC: jokim@tuna.mit.edu, sunderam@cs.utk.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? Message-Id: My 701 battery charges with the computer powered off On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Robert Dewar wrote: > "This is normal. The battery will only charge with the computer on > or in suspend. Dunno about hibernate but I doubt it'll charge." > > Really?? that's certainly not true on a 700, 720, 755 or 760. Sounds > like a real disadvantage of the 701. > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 10:09:11 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: Christian N Michalek CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? Message-Id: On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Christian N Michalek wrote: > My 701 battery charges with the computer powered off Are you sure? Quoting the manual, page 69: To recharge an installed battery pack, the computer must be operating on ac power (that is, connected to the ac adapter) and in one of the following power states: o Power on o Suspend mode o Safe Suspend mode o Standby mode Note: The battery pack cannot recharge while the computer is in hibernate mode. Apparently to save weight, the charger's circuitry works off the laptop's power supply or something. Are you sure your computer didn't just auto-suspend? It isn't really that much trouble as long as you remember to suspend instead of power off. I hardly ever use the on/off switch anymore. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 09:20:35 -0600 From: Christian N Michalek To: "John H. Kim" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Charging 701C when powered off? Message-Id: On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, John H. Kim wrote: > On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Christian N Michalek wrote: > > > My 701 battery charges with the computer powered off > > Are you sure? Quoting the manual, page 69: > I very well could be wrong, but the battery seems to be charged when I turn it on in the morning after I have been using it without the ac adapter. I'll check tonight... -Chris 701C 16MB Ram 720 HD Win95 ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: John Joowon Lee "MS apps on Solaris x86" (Apr 1, 2:46am) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 10:22:13 -0500 From: "Vince Wayland" To: jjl9@msc.cornell.edu CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: MS apps on Solaris x86 Message-Id: <9604011022.ZM6169@baobab.nesc.epa.gov> Or better yet get the Caldera release of linux and its application suite, which includes WABI and WordPerfect. It costs money, though. But trade off your time vs. getting useful work done. Vince On Apr 1, 2:46am, John Joowon Lee wrote: > Subject: MS apps on Solaris x86 > Hello, > > I recall that Steve Hurl* expressed, not long ago, that it would be > useful to run MS Office on Linux. I thought I might point out that > SunSoft of Sun Microsystems has Solaris 2.5 available for the *86 > architecture; Solaris can run WABI, which is capable of running quite > a number of Windows applications, but only those developed for Windows > 3.*. For a URL with information, goto http://www.yahoo.com and search > for 'Solaris'. BYTE magazine had a review of WABI in the summer of 1995, > encouragingly entitled 'A Less Wobbly WABI'. > > (I have no affiliation with Sun.) > > John Lee > jjl9@cornell.edu >-- End of excerpt from John Joowon Lee -- Vince Wayland Onsite at The National Environmental Supercomputer Center (517)894-7671 for Cray Research, Inc. veg@nesc.epa.gov NESC, 135 Washington Ave., Bay City, MI 48708 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 10:47:33 +0500 From: "Patrick Hong" Reply-To: phong@synapse.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Battery Rejuvenation... Message-Id: <199604011541.KAA07702@conductor.synapse.net> Hi! I know I've seen this post before but since I can't find my reference, I thought I would ask again. I have a Thinkpad 755CX (SVGA, MWave) that has a LiIon battery. I don't know whether this is coincidence but since I've upgraded my machine to Win95, I notice that my suspend mode only last for 6-8 hours at best. Previously with Win 3.1 I could suspend the machine overnight without any problems and still have time to work before I would have to plug in the adapter. First off, I thought LiIon batteries didn't have this memory problem and that they could last much longer than NiM batteries. Secondly, is there a way of rejuvenating the battery? Believe it or not, I use the IBM Fuel utility to discharge and recharge my battery on a regular basis, in the hopes that this exact problem wouldn't occur. Thanks in advance! ...patrick --------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@synapse.net (613) 769-1544 Tel phong@connectinc.com (613) 728-4063 Fax --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 11:53:03 -0500 From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Reply-To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 750s round the world Message-Id: <9604011653.AA13635@gl.ciw.edu> I'm attending a meeting in Germany next week, and I would like to bring my tp750 along. My power brick is the big one (FRU P/N 49G2196) that lists input at 100-240V~0.95-0.5A. I have a two prong German style plug adaptor which fits the three prong gringo type on my cord (leaving the ground line unconnected). Do I have to worry at all about plugging my precious TP into those German lines with this setup? I have two batteries, and I hear lots of talk about hot swapping. Unfortunately, every time I try to swap with the computer on, the system crashes. This is true no matter how quickly I try to swap the battery. I thought there was some internal energy storage to keep the machine going during battery swap. Am I doing something wrong. Thanks ________________________ Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, DC 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 http://granite.ciw.edu/~kress ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 01 Apr 1996 11:53:03 EST." <9604011653.AA13635@gl.ciw.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 12:09:44 -0500 From: Gen Cerf To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) CC: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 750s round the world Message-Id: <9604011709.AA13855@insight.nynexst.com> > Do I have to worry at all > about plugging my precious TP into those German lines with this setup? > I plugged mine in (with the plug adaptor) in both France and Switzerland with no problems...Have fun on the trip! Gen ---------------------------------------------------- Genevieve Cerf, Ph.D. E.E. 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Host unknown (Name server: fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca: host not found) ----- Original message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: from wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQaksx25748; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:59:02 -0400 (EDT) From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA24732 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:58:31 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 26 Mar 1996 12:36:38 U Subject: thinkpad digest for Tue To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Tue, 26 Mar 1996 !!! Original message was too large. !!! !!! It is contained in the enclosure whose name !!! is the same as the subject of this message. !!! !!! A preview of the message follows: Today's topics: Re: need help with W95/LPT1 (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request (Robert Dewar) Re: Smartsuite CD (Michael Verne/VENTANA) TP 755Cs batteries (Roger J. Buffington) Greetings & a Query (J.E.Goodman) Micron Millennia Transport P133 review (fwd) (Maury Keith Donen) Re: Micron Millennia Transport P133 review (fwd) (Steve Hultquist) Re: Smartsuite CD (John W. Sterni) Re: battery replacement under warr? (John W. Sterni) Harddrive for 760CD (Geza Szivos) Re: Micron Millennia Transport P133 review (fwd) (Sandy Meltzer) Re: Micron Millennia Transport P133 review (fwd) (Robert Dewar) Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request (Joshua Hosseinof) Re: Harddrive for 760CD (Robert Dewar) Video capabilities on the 755CD/CDV (Henrik Bohre) Re: Micron Millennia Transport P133 review (fwd) (Robert Dewar) Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request (Robert Dewar) Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request (Joshua Hosseinof) Re: Harddrive for 760CD (John H. Kim) Re: TP 755Cs batteries (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Re: Harddrive for 760CD (Robert Dewar) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --9603261215024747 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --9603261215024747 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: 25 Mar 1996 12:44:26 -0400 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA To: "David S. Crombie" CC: tp750 Subject: Re: need help with W95/LPT1 Message-Id: <9603252049.AA5681@lgate.vmedia.com> "...Does anybody know what I can do to get my LPT1 port back up and running?..." ~~~~~ does it show up at all in the device manager? (control panel, system icon, device manager tab) if it shows up but is x'ed out, try selecting it, hitting the properties button, & putting a check beside the configuration(s) listed in the 'device usage' box. this has worked for me in getting devices back up that i've accidentally disabled. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:25:08 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, valliant@micomtech.com CC: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request Message-Id: <9603251925.AA00897@nile.gnat.com> "i've only taken a 755cd to england & used the built in mwave modem to dial into uk isp's. made no initialization changes prior and had no problems. just bought an rj11 to uk adapter & everything ran smooth as silk." Can you give an exact reference for the rj11 to uk adapter that you bought? thanks! ------------------------------ Date: 25 Mar 1996 14:50:49 -0400 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA To: "John W. Sterni" CC: tp750 Subject: Re: Smartsuite CD Message-Id: <9603252259.AA5990@lgate.vmedia.com> "...Does this include us that bought thinkpads two years ago ?? Had to ask, please forgive me ... :)..." ~~~~~ this particular offer was for thinkpads purchased between sept 1, 1995 and jan 15, 1996. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 ------------------- <<<<<< Attached TEXT file named "thinkpad digest for Tue, 26 Mar" follows >>>>>> Received: by qmgate with SMTP;26 Mar 1996 12:26:19 U Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA17412 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:23:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05039; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:15:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:15:45 -0500 From: Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:15:44 -0500 To: thinkpad-digest-recipients:; Subject: thinkpad digest for Tue, 26 Mar 1996 Reply-To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="9603261215024747" Message-Id: Today's topics: Re: need help with W95/LPT1 (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request (Robert Dewar) Re: Smartsuite CD (Michael Verne/VENTANA) TP 755Cs batteries (Roger J. Buffington) Greetings & a Query (J.E.Goodman) Micron Millennia Transport P133 review (fwd) (Maury Keith Donen) Re: Micron Millennia Transport P133 review (fwd) (Steve Hultquist) Re: Smartsuite CD (John W. Sterni) Re: battery replacement under warr? (John W. Sterni) Harddrive for 760CD (Geza Szivos) Re: Micron Millennia Transport P133 review (fwd) (Sandy Meltzer) Re: Micron Millennia Transport P133 review (fwd) (Robert Dewar) Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request (Joshua Hosseinof) Re: Harddrive for 760CD (Robert Dewar) Video capabilities on the 755CD/CDV (Henrik Bohre) Re: Micron Millennia Transport P133 review (fwd) (Robert Dewar) Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request (Robert Dewar) Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request (Joshua Hosseinof) Re: Harddrive for 760CD (John H. Kim) Re: TP 755Cs batteries (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Re: Harddrive for 760CD (Robert Dewar) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --9603261215024747 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --9603261215024747 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: 25 Mar 1996 12:44:26 -0400 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA To: "David S. Crombie" CC: tp750 Subject: Re: need help with W95/LPT1 Message-Id: <9603252049.AA5681@lgate.vmedia.com> "...Does anybody know what I can do to get my LPT1 port back up and running?..." ~~~~~ does it show up at all in the device manager? (control panel, system icon, device manager tab) if it shows up but is x'ed out, try selecting it, hitting the properties button, & putting a check beside the configuration(s) listed in the 'device usage' box. this has worked for me in getting devices back up that i've accidentally disabled. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:25:08 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, valliant@micomtech.com CC: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request Message-Id: <9603251925.AA00897@nile.gnat.com> "i've only taken a 755cd to england & used the built in mwave modem to dial into uk isp's. made no initialization changes prior and had no problems. just bought an rj11 to uk adapter & everything ran smooth as silk." Can you give an exact reference for the rj11 to uk adapter that you bought? thanks! ------------------------------ Date: 25 Mar 1996 14:50:49 -0400 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA To: "John W. Sterni" CC: tp750 Subject: Re: Smartsuite CD Message-Id: <9603252259.AA5990@lgate.vmedia.com> "...Does this include us that bought thinkpads two years ago ?? Had to ask, please forgive me ... :)..." ~~~~~ this particular offer was for thinkpads purchased between sept 1, 1995 and jan 15, 1996. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:01:54 -0500 From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 755Cs batteries Message-Id: <199603260057.QAA27455@chaph.usc.edu> I wish to buy a new battery for my TP755Cs. Can someone give me a vendor name and telephone number? I understand that PC direct is out of the TP business, alas. I've tried some of the internet sites mentioned here on the list, but they all appear to be abandoned. Besides, I want a fone # so that I can simply call and place my order. Thanks. ---------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 ----------------------------- AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I would rather die peacefully, in my sleep, like my Grandfather, rather than screaming, and in terror, like his passengers..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 0900 14:06:16 From: "J.E.Goodman" To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Greetings & a Query Message-Id: <199603260508.OAA20564@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> Greetings to all from Kyoto, Japan. I have a TP755CD w/24 meg & 810Mb drive, which I bought last summer. No major complaints. Had trouble with some CD-ROM software but this was fixed w/ updated MWave drivers. Main stumbling block now: CuSeeMe Enhanced (Win3.11) GPF's at connect time. Camcorder input works okay, image viewable on screen, but no cigar re using the thing for a practical purpose. Don't know where to begin to try and fix this. Am using Internet in a Box 2.0 as my front end dialer/winsock. No problem with usual Net stuff. Has anyone done a bios upgrade (sytpe140 ?) and is this to be recommended? I downloaded this file from IBM but have trepidations about 'fixing what ain't broke' and also re the doc file's warning about frying the system board should things go wrong. I'd like to get video conferencing to work, but this is a frill that I wouldn't wish to take major risks to achieve. Also, I've often found that upgrading something uncovers other glitches elsewhere. Suggestions? John E. Goodman jgood@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:13:32 -0600 From: Maury Keith Donen To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Micron Millennia Transport P133 review (fwd) Message-Id: Further to my post in regard to ThinkPad's Vs. Competition. I cam across the latest review (with specs) of the new Micron product. I would love to hear how you would compare or contrast the quality/performance of these models in relation to the review contained below. I would again liek to thank you in advance for all your help. Maury P.S. you will notice at the bottomw of the article about how the Micron does not hot-swap. I am not sure i understand what this is, and is this a major cause for concern. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:01:27 -0600 From: Maury Keith Donen To: umdonen@CC.UManitoba.CA Subject: Micron Millennia Transport P133 review >Path: canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!torn!nott!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!news.utdallas.edu!news.starnet.net!newsreader.wustl.edu!usenet >From: "John G. Felker" >Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops >Subject: Latest Micron Transport Review >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 23:04:23 -0600 >Organization: Mallinckrodt Institute of Radiology, Washington University >Lines: 256 >Message-ID: <31562957.5949@mirlink.wustl.edu> >NNTP-Posting-Host: @dialin1-151.wustl.edu >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Reference: http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/issues/1507/pcmg0023.htm Mobile Triton and Pentium/133 Elevate Notebook Computing Brian Nadel and John Morris Notebook computers have inched one step closer to the Holy Grail of being true desktop replacements with the introduction of systems based on Intel's mobile Triton chip set and its133-MHz Pentium processor. When combined with generously sized screens, large hard disks, and multimedia features, Pentium/133 notebooks approach the functionality and performance of desktop PCs. For this miniroundup, we tested the first Pentium/133 notebooks on the market: AST Research's Ascentia P50 and Micron's Millennia TransPort P133. Both sell for about $5,000 fully loaded, weigh about 7 pounds each, and are top-flight performers. They are likely to appeal both to those looking for a portable computer with staying power as applications demand ever more processing power and to traveling executives who want the muscle and multimedia capabilities of a high-end desktop PC. The Need for Speed In addition to pushing the clock speed of the CPU to new heights, the Pentium/133 also boosts performance by using the broader bandwidth of a 66-MHz motherboard. The result is about a 30 percent improvement in all-around performance that goes beyond the 11 percent speed difference between Pentium/120 and Pentium/133 processors. The notebook version of the Pentium/133 delivers these performance gains while providing at least 2 hours of battery life, thanks to the chip's energy-efficient architecture. The processor is manufactured with Intel's 0.35-micron process and wrapped in film-thin Tape Carrier Packaging, which is then attached directly to the motherboard. This mobile Pentium/133 uses dual-voltage technology: The computational core operates at a miserly 2.9 volts (2.9V) while running externally at the standard 3.3V. All told, the processor draws just 3.3 watts of power at peak usage. The final piece of the portable puzzle is Intel's mobile Triton chip set, also known as 430MX. This PCI-based core-logic chip set streamlines operations and supports sophisticated power-conservation measures. Pentium/133 Redux? Our last major roundup of notebooks ("On the Road with the Pentium," January 23, 1996) contained a trio of Pentium/133 notebooks. Each, however, used a traditional 3.3V desktop processor. As a result, battery life and performance of the ACW SoundPad IIIB and the FutureMate 5413T and FutureMate 5513D twins were disappointing; we report the benchmark test results of the FutureMate 5413T alongside those of the Ascentia P50 and TransPort P133 for comparison. With all these units have going for them and with other manufacturers expected to follow with equally exciting notebooks in the near future, the hardest part may be deciding which notebook is right for you. AST Ascentia P50 AST Research has built a dual personality into its $5,098 Ascentia P50. As a result, it is just as comfortable being a powerful notebook for traveling executives as it is being a desktop replacement system. AST started with all the necessary ingredients: a Pentium/133 processor, 256K of external cache, an 11.3-inch active-matrix screen, a 4X CD-ROM drive, an 800MB hard disk, and lithium ion batteries. To that, it added multimedia features, a touch pad, and even a joystick/MIDI port. The case includes an RJ-11 telephone connector for an optional 28.8-Kbps internal data/fax modem that AST says will be available soon; for now, a PC Card modem will suffice. The Ascentia P50 measures 2.3 by 11.3 by 8.9 inches and weighs 7 pounds 2 ounces. It has a travel weight of 7 pounds 14 ounces with the AC adapter, which measures just 1.3 by 2.3 by 4.5 inches. We tested an Ascentia P50 that was based on Intel's mobile Triton chip set and had 16MB of EDO memory. For audio, the Ascentia P50 uses the 16-bit Sound Blaster Vibra circuitry; there is a pair of stereo speakers and a microphone in the palm rest. One of the strong points of the Ascentia P50 is its bright, 11.3-inch Super VGA screen, which is capable of displaying 64,000 colors at 800- by 600-pixel resolution. The rear panel of the Ascentia P50 has the standard complement of connectors: serial and parallel ports, an external mouse/keyboard port, a VGA connector, and a slot for connecting a port replicator. There's also a microphone audio jack, as well as an IrDA port for wireless communications. The Ascentia P50 can accommodate two Type II PC Cards or one Type II and one Type III card. The Ascentia P50 is one of the first notebooks to incorporate the Windows 95-specific keys. In addition, the convenient touch pad allows you to drag the pointer or cursor to the desired location and then tap the surface to activate the location, although it took a while for us to get used to this feature. Although it posted stellar scores across the board, the Ascentia P50's score of 54 on our Winstone 96 tests was tied by the TransPort P133. On our CPUmark processor tests, the Ascentia P50 barely beat the TransPort P133, with scores of 257 and 259 on 16- and 32-bit tasks, respectively. On our WinDrain battery test, which measures battery life with power conservation disabled, the Ascentia P50's lithium ion battery lasted 2 hours 34 minutes, half an hour longer than that of the TransPort P133. If you're willing to sacrifice the CD-ROM and floppy disk drive, you can install a second, smaller lithium ion battery pack that contains 8 cells, rather than the 12 that are in the primary battery. With its excellent performance and well-rounded personality, the Ascentia P50 is an attractive alternative to a desktop PC in the office, on the road, and even at home. --JM AST Ascentia P50. List price: With Pentium/133 CPU, 16MB RAM, 256K external cache, 800MB hard disk, 11.3-inch active-matrix display, $5,098. AST Research Inc., Irvine, CA; 800-876-4278, 714-727-4141; http://www.ast .com. Micron Millennia Transport P133 Micron, a company that has garnered several Editors' Choice awards for desktop PCs, has branched out into notebooks. By all accounts, the $5,498 TransPort P133 is nearly a dead ringer for IBM's ThinkPad 760CD (First Looks, November 21, 1995) but performs better and saves you about $2,500. The TransPort P133, which is manufactured by Sanyo, includes all you're likely to need on the road: Pentium/133 performance, a 1.3GB hard disk, lithium ion batteries, a 4X CD-ROM, infrared communications, Sound Blaster audio, and an 11.3-inch active-matrix display capable of 800- by 600-pixel resolution and 64,000 colors. With a travel weight of 7 pounds 2 ounces and dimensions of 11.0 by 8.5 by 2.3 inches, the TransPort P133 is roughly the same size as and a little lighter than the ThinkPad 760CD, which has a 12.1-inch screen. On the left side of the TransPort P133, you'll find space for a pair of Type II PC Cards or a single Type III card. The right side contains a modular bay for either the system's floppy disk drive or a battery. In the front, the CD-ROM module can be swapped for a battery, the floppy disk drive, or a second hard disk, raising internal data storage to more than 2.5GB. Depending on what's installed, this modularity results in seven distinct computing personalities, ranging from two hard disks for information-safe mirrored data to a setup with CD-ROM and battery installed for multimedia programming on the road or a double-battery notebook for the long haul. There are two penalties, though, because the floppy disk drive is not hot-swappable, and you can't have both the CD-ROM and the floppy disk drive installed and run the system on battery power. To have it all, you'll need to have access to an electrical outlet. While the Ascentia P50 provides a touch pad, the TransPort P133 offers the flexibility of either a similar touch pad or a keyboard-mounted pointing stick. Unfortunately, you can't have both activated at once. On the other hand, the Ascentia P50's keyboard includes the three Windows 95-specific keys, whereas the TransPort P133's doesn't. Three unexpected extras stand out. First, the TransPort P133 has a pair of IrDA infrared transmission ports, one in the back and one in the front. Also, at 0.9 by 4.4 by 2.2 inches and 8 ounces, the TransPort P133's power adapter is among the smallest and lightest around. Finally, there are ports for both an external keyboard and a mouse. Top-flight Performance Based on Intel's mobile Triton chip set, the TransPort P133 comes with 256K of external cache and 16MB of EDO memory. Its performance set a new standard for notebook computing with top scores on our Winstone 96 (54), Graphics WinMark 96 (12.3 million pixels per second), and Disk WinMark 96 (781) tests. The system's 16-bit and 32-bit CPUmark processor test results were slightly behind those of the Ascentia P50. With power conservation disabled, the TransPort P133 lasted 2 hours 4 minutes on our WinDrain battery test. But with the TransPort P133's flexible power management in place, the system lasted quite a bit longer. If you put the system into suspend mode, it'll take a little experience to remember that the tiny resume button, which has a coffee-cup logo, is above the right-side drive bay. The TransPort P133 has an optional multimedia Port Replicator that includes a pair of speakers and an Ethernet adapter as well as a power adapter for changing the unit's batteries and a variety of audio and video connectors. At $299, it's a bargain for those who split their time between the office and the road. If you are turned off by the price of full-featured notebooks, the Micron Millennia TransPort P133 will seem like a breath of fresh air, as long as you don't venture far from an electrical outlet.--BN Micron Millennia TransPort P133. List price: With Pentium/133 CPU, 256K external cache, 16MB RAM, 11.3-inch active-matrix screen, 4X CD-ROM, extra battery, extra hard disk, $5,498. Micron Electronics Inc., Nampa, ID; 800-388-6334; http:// www.mei.micron.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:20:43 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist To: Maury Keith Donen , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Micron Millennia Transport P133 review (fwd) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960326052043.00c99a48@[166.93.8.14]> At 11:13 PM 3/25/96 -0600, Maury Keith Donen wrote: >P.S. you will notice at the bottomw of the article about how the Micron >does not hot-swap. I am not sure i understand what this is, and is this a >major cause for concern. I think so. This means that, whenever you need to change the battery, you need to shut down the system. That kinda stinks, I think (I do this a lot)... Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Distributed Systems and Internet Engineering Boulder, Colorado ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:31:58 -0800 From: "John W. Sterni" To: "John H. Kim" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Smartsuite CD Message-Id: On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, John H. Kim wrote: > Sept 95 to 15 Jan 96. Offer expired 31 Jan 96. Thanks everyone for the info..... I guess i'll have to buy another thinkpad for the CD :) I would of like those RayBans too.... -john ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <199603221035.MAA11470@ra.abo.fi> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:36:30 -0800 From: "John W. Sterni" To: Antti Kilpinen CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: battery replacement under warr? Message-Id: On Fri, 22 Mar 1996, Antti Kilpinen wrote: > BTW, here, the TP750 battery is considerabely cheaper when purchased as a > spare part as opposed to a "second battery". > > -antti > How would I go about ordering A battery as a "spare" instead of as a "second" battery ? thanks -john ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 07:04:12 +0000 From: Geza Szivos To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Harddrive for 760CD Message-Id: <199603260704.HAA17802@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Can I use (With the add-on gadget) the 755 harddrive (50 and the 810) in the 760CD ? They are cheap not like the 760 harddrives. Anyone knows good place to buy them? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geza Szivos Systems Engineer, SIVCO Inc. BESTeam and TEAMOS2 Member Certified IBM OS/2 Expert, Certified LAN Server Expert and AD Specialist Tel: (403)-850-4500 FAX: (403)-547-4741 Szivos@ibm.net TalkLink:lnk9094 IBMMail(CANOVXVV) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 02:52:35 -0800 From: Sandy Meltzer To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Micron Millennia Transport P133 review (fwd) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960326105235.006f7634@surf.com> At 11:13 PM 3/25/96 -0600, you wrote: >Further to my post in regard to ThinkPad's Vs. Competition. I cam across >the latest review (with specs) of the new Micron product. I would love to >hear how you would compare or contrast the quality/performance of these >models in relation to the review contained below. I would again liek to >thank you in advance for all your help. The Micron Millennia looks like a real nice machine and has been receiving some fine reviews. Is it available yet? The "hot swap" issue is important for many users and I personally would prefer the 12.1" screen of the 760 over the 11.3" screen. I do lots of graphic designs for Web sites and never have too much screen on a laptop. On the other hand, I'm tired of waiting for IBM to get their act together on the 760 series and I'm not sure I can wait for them to produce a model similar to the Micron Millennia. Time is money. And with IBM, time and money never seem to be an issue...as long as it's my time and my money. :-( The new 760 models will probably be available long after similar models have become available from their competitors and then they'll charge us "thousands" of dollars more for the privilege of buying it "late". I'm a long time ThinkPad user and have always appreciated IBM's overall quality and service. Although they often seem to take the lead with progressive designs like the 760CD, they seem to have enormous problems delivering them and are often "me too" products by the time they are available. I've been waiting for months for a 760CD-120 model I ordered and now it appears that this model will be "old" even before it's available. The newer 760ED is suppose to be a PCI-bus 133Mhz Pentium version similar to the Micron machine, but if IBM does their normal production turnaround, it probably won't be available for many months...just in time to be behind everyone else again. :-( So, I can buy "older" technology ThinkPads at exaggerated prices or continue to wait. Frankly, I'm growing tired of this and have started to consider other laptops. With the laptop market the way it is, what functionality or quality would I be losing by buying a Micron Millennia today instead of waiting months for IBM to produce? Look at the money I would save too...hell, I could upgrade my desktop machine with the latest 166MHz Pentium/motherboard with the money I would save and would get immediate use from it. Also, I never understood why IBM isn't the true performance leader in laptops...they always seem to produce ThinkPads that benchmark in the middle or towards the rear-end of the pack. And availability is becoming a real issue for me too. Why should I spent $2000-$3000 more for a ThinkPad that becomes available long after everyone else? I don't mind spending the extra money for a top-of-the-line ThinkPad, it just doesn't make sense to buy it knowing that the next generation is only weeks away and that its resale value is going to drop like a ton of bricks. I experienced this last year with the 755CX. The huge amount of extra money you have to spend to be the "first kid on the block" with the latest-greatest ThinkPad model wouldn't be bad IF the new models were real and available within a reasonable period of time. But this is seldom the case. I guess the smart move is to wait a bit longer and buy the come-lately ThinkPad when the price does drop. Sorry for the long winded post...it's very late at night and I'm very tired. My new 760 ThinkPad is also very late, and I'm tired of waiting. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-------.oOOo--()--oOOo.-----+-------------------------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | Reflections By Design | | Web Page : www.sandy.com | Web Design & Production | | Location : Cupertino, CA | Info? Call 408-257-2800 | +---------------- Oooo.------+-------------------------+ .oooO ( ) zzz.|\ _,,,---,,_ ( ) ) / /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_.. \ ( (_/ |,*< ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-` \_) '---''(_/--' `-'\_) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:39:15 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, umdonen@cc.umanitoba.ca Subject: Re: Micron Millennia Transport P133 review (fwd) Message-Id: <9603261139.AA24155@nile.gnat.com> you can't compare a machine with a review! Especially a review in PC Magazine. The critical thing with all notebooks is try before you buy, or buy with a money back guarantee! ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <9603251925.AA00897@nile.gnat.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:40:23 -0500 From: Joshua Hosseinof To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request Message-Id: In England just be sure to bring your own rj-11 cable from the US. The adapter for that can be bought in just about any electronics store (Tandy, etc.). If you don't bring the cable you will have to find a BT shop which has an RJ-11 plug on one end and a BT plug on the other. On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Robert Dewar wrote: > "i've only taken a 755cd to england & used the built in mwave modem to dial into > uk isp's. made no initialization changes prior and had no problems. just > bought an rj11 to uk adapter & everything ran smooth as silk." > > Can you give an exact reference for the rj11 to uk adapter that you > bought? thanks! > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:48:46 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, szivos@ibm.net Subject: Re: Harddrive for 760CD Message-Id: <9603261148.AA24800@nile.gnat.com> "Can I use (With the add-on gadget) the 755 harddrive (50 and the 810) in the 760CD ? They are cheap not like the 760 harddrives. Anyone knows good place to buy them?" The 755 harddrives are just slightly too big for the 760CD. I assume by the "add on gadget" you mean the holder for the second hard drive. Here too the 755 drives are too large. HOWEVER, if you are willing to attack the plastic gizmo with a chisel etc, you can hollow it out so that the 755 drives fit fine, and they seem to work with no difficulty. That's what I did. However, I found the whole thing of limited use, because the drive letters in OS/2 switch depending on whether or not you have the extra hard drive installed, which is a real nuisance since I wanted to use it for backup. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:22:19 +0100 From: Henrik Bohre To: ThinkPad mailing list Subject: Video capabilities on the 755CD/CDV Message-Id: <3157E17B.63BC@tripnet.se> Greetings all, I'm thinking of buying a ThinkPad 755CD/CDV, but haven't been able to dig up very much info about its video capabilities. Especially I would be intrested to know: * if someone has used the video overlay function with any success. * What software is shipped with the computer? * Is it possible to control the overlay functions from a program? * What about the video quality Best wishes -- BOHRE DATA Henrik Bohre Tel: +46 31 16 35 06 +46 707 21 16 49 Email: bohre@tripnet.se ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 07:32:50 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: sandy@surf.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Micron Millennia Transport P133 review (fwd) Message-Id: <9603261232.AA24978@nile.gnat.com> "I've been waiting for months for a 760CD-120 model I ordered and now it appears that this model will be "old" even before it's available. The newer 760ED is suppose to be a PCI-bus 133Mhz Pentium version similar to the Micron machine, but if IBM does their normal production turnaround, it probably won't be available for many months...just in time to be behind everyone else again. :-(" Your problem, and your impression that IBM is later than everyone else comes from the fact that you order the macine and wait. BIG MISTAKE. I have always been able to buy thinkpads days after they were announced, from stores that had them in stock. If you have been waiting months for the 760CD-120, then you ordered it before it was officially available. That's a mistake I think. The 760CD-120 is in stock, or was a couple of weeks ago, at several New York stores. Is the Micron Millenium machine actually available? Just because PC magazine got one to review does not mean that it is! Certainly I can't buy it in any stores here in NYC. My advice is, cancel your 760CD order, and wait till the 760ED comes into stores, and buy one then. You will probably get a machine earlier and you will get a more powerful machine. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 07:34:21 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request Message-Id: <9603261234.AA24990@nile.gnat.com> "In England just be sure to bring your own rj-11 cable from the US. The adapter for that can be bought in just about any electronics store (Tandy, etc.). If you don't bring the cable you will have to find a BT shop which has an RJ-11 plug on one end and a BT plug on the other." I have been totally unsuccessful in tracking down what to buy at Radio Shack. Anyone have a part number? ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <9603261234.AA24990@nile.gnat.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 08:10:34 -0500 From: Joshua Hosseinof To: Robert Dewar CC: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request Message-Id: You won't find it in Radio Shack in America. I meant any electronics store in the U.K.. In the U.S. it's almost impossible to find the UK phone adapter and if you do it will be very expensive..BT stands for British Telecom for those who weren't aware. On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Robert Dewar wrote: > "In England just be sure to bring your own rj-11 cable from the US. The > adapter for that can be bought in just about any electronics store > (Tandy, etc.). If you don't bring the cable you will have to find a BT > shop which has an RJ-11 plug on one end and a BT plug on the other." > > I have been totally unsuccessful in tracking down what to buy at Radio > Shack. Anyone have a part number? > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <9603261148.AA24800@nile.gnat.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 08:44:35 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: Robert Dewar CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Harddrive for 760CD Message-Id: On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Robert Dewar wrote: > Here too the 755 drives are too large. HOWEVER, if you are willing to > attack the plastic gizmo with a chisel etc, you can hollow it out so > that the 755 drives fit fine, and they seem to work with no difficulty. > That's what I did. > > However, I found the whole thing of limited use, because the drive letters > in OS/2 switch depending on whether or not you have the extra hard drive > installed, which is a real nuisance since I wanted to use it for backup. If the second drive has only logical drives, the drive letters shouldn't switch. The drive letters get apportioned: 1st drive, primary partition(s) 2nd drive, primary partition(s) 1st drive, logical drive(s) 2nd drive, logical drive(s) I don't know if it's possible to get OS/2 running with only a logical drive (boot manager counts as a primary partition, although I dunno if DOS or OS/2 will assign a drive letter to it). -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ Date: 26 Mar 1996 08:36:47 -0400 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA To: "Roger J. Buffington" CC: tp750 Subject: Re: TP 755Cs batteries Message-Id: <9603261644.AA6874@lgate.vmedia.com> "...a vendor name and telephone number? I understand that PC direct is out of the TP business, alas...." ~~~~~ i thought pc direct was still selling parts & peripherals. they told me that they only dropped whole systems because it put them in direct competition with their retailers. i've still been buying parts & peripherals from them, so i'd assume batteries are still available. if not, power express sells them, along with u.s. & int'l ac adapters for thinkpads. 800/769-3739. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 ------------------------------ Date: 26 Mar 1996 08:45:32 -0400 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA To: Robert Dewar CC: tp750 Subject: Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request Message-Id: <9603261650.AA6892@lgate.vmedia.com> you might try calling tts in california. they sell a lot of custom built cables for computers, mostly multimedia. if they can't help you, they may know who can. 800/887-4968. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:04:59 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: dewar@gnat.com, jokim@tuna.mit.edu CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Harddrive for 760CD Message-Id: <9603261404.AA25640@nile.gnat.com> John Kim said "If the second drive has only logical drives, the drive letters shouldn't switch. The drive letters get apportioned:" Hey, VERY helpful, thanks!!!! -------------------------------- --9603261215024747-- End of thinkpad Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 17:54:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26562; Tue, 9 Apr 96 17:54:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23836; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:47:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:45:24 -0400 Received: from ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (ux4.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.62]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23607; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:45:20 -0400 Received: (from pantazis@localhost) by ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12ui) id QAA13205; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:44:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:44:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Dennis Pantazis To: thinkpad Subject: chkdsk /f on triple boot 701C Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ugh! after tryign to get everything cleaned up and getting ready to reinstall Warp, I tried to run chkdsk, and it tells me that my path is too long. Even though I uninstalled Warp with the included icon/program out of windows, the path it recognizes is something like: c:\os2\archives\desktop................. some really long path, its grievanve is that it is longer than 67 chars. Huh? my current path is: path=c:\; c:\dos;c:\windows;c:\util;c:\util\pkware I do not understand where chkdsk gets this path. Is there a way around this? (BTW i did a deltree os2 to be sure nothing was left, not found at that point) Thanks in advance.... Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Pantazis My opinions are my own, and can not be interpreted as extensions of the Graduate Student in Civil Engineering University's official policies, University of Illinois-Urbana until they decide my opinion's are (the Extended Tour of Duty continues) worth money to the institution!!! You can see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 18:48:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28840; Tue, 9 Apr 96 18:48:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28998; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:45:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:42:55 -0400 Received: from relay7.UU.NET (relay7.UU.NET [192.48.96.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28661; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:42:50 -0400 Received: from localhost by relay7.UU.NET with internal id QQaksx08673; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:59:52 -0400 (EDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@uunet.uu.net (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca: host not found) Message-Id: To: Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) The original message was received at Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:59:24 -0400 (EDT) from wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca [192.139.233.5] ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 ... Host unknown (Name server: fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca: host not found) ----- Original message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: from wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca by relay7.UU.NET with SMTP id QQaksx08575; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:59:24 -0400 (EDT) From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA24780 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:59:12 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 25 Mar 1996 12:42:14 U Subject: thinkpad digest for Mon To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Mon, 25 Mar 1996 Today's topics: unsubscribe (Stacy Lloyd) Re: Smartsuite CD (John H. Kim) Re: Smartsuite CD (John W. Sterni) Re: Smartsuite CD (Antti Kilpinen) Battery swaping on 755CE under Win95 (Chris Liljenstolpe - SSDS INFOSEC Eng.) group trackpoint cover order (Chris Liljenstolpe - SSDS INFOSEC Eng.) Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Solaris x86 (on a TP 755CX) (Stuart Biggar) ping and request for help (duane whitehurst) Re: Smartsuite CD (John H. Kim) Re: ping and request for help (John H. Kim) need help with W95/LPT1 (David S. Crombie) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --96032512150228226 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --96032512150228226 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 09:46:46 -0600 From: Stacy Lloyd To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Message-Id: <199603241546.JAA17946@eagle.wbm.ca> ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <199603240430.EAA122667@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 23:47:40 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: Geza Szivos CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Smartsuite CD Message-Id: On Sun, 24 Mar 1996, Geza Szivos wrote: > >Recently purchased Thinkpads, including mine, came with a copy of Lotus > >Smartsuite on CD-ROM. > > Hmmm... > I purchased a 760CD-C13, and I did NOT received a SmartSuite. Just to clear things up, this offer was for Thinkpads purchased before 15 Jan 1996. A flyer was included in the box detailing how to fax/mail the form in to receive your free copy of the Smartsuite CD. -- John H. Kim "A citizen of America will cross the ocean to fight jokim@mit.edu for democracy, but won't cross the street to vote in jokim@tuna.mit.edu a national election." -- Bill Vaughan ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 23:05:21 -0800 From: "John W. Sterni" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Smartsuite CD Message-Id: On Sun, 24 Mar 1996, John H. Kim wrote: > > >Recently purchased Thinkpads, including mine, came with a copy of Lotus > > >Smartsuite on CD-ROM. > > > > Hmmm... > > I purchased a 760CD-C13, and I did NOT received a SmartSuite. > > Just to clear things up, this offer was for Thinkpads purchased before > 15 Jan 1996. A flyer was included in the box detailing how to fax/mail > the form in to receive your free copy of the Smartsuite CD. > -- Does this include us that bought thinkpads two years ago ?? Had to ask, please forgive me ... :) -john ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:23:45 +0200 From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Smartsuite CD Message-Id: <199603250723.JAA21835@ra.abo.fi> > >On Sun, 24 Mar 1996, John H. Kim wrote: > >> > >Recently purchased Thinkpads, including mine, came with a copy of Lotus >> > >Smartsuite on CD-ROM. >> > >> > Hmmm... >> > I purchased a 760CD-C13, and I did NOT received a SmartSuite. >> >> Just to clear things up, this offer was for Thinkpads purchased before >> 15 Jan 1996. A flyer was included in the box detailing how to fax/mail >> the form in to receive your free copy of the Smartsuite CD. >> -- > >Does this include us that bought thinkpads two years ago ?? >Had to ask, please forgive me ... :) > A month after having ordered 6 TPs, I read in a newspaper a TP ad where they promised RayBans for purchases made before a certain date. I got my six pairs of RayBans w/o any problems. There is nothing to forgive you, try it! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 05:10:11 -0600 From: "Chris Liljenstolpe - SSDS INFOSEC Eng." To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Battery swaping on 755CE under Win95 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960325111011.0086b904@denver.ssds.com> Greetings, When I hot swap the battery under Windows95 on my TP755CE, the battery level indicators indicate the battery state of the battery that was removed, not the new battery. However, the system will still continue to work, and the low battery alerts (anoying sound, blinking battery light) indicate when the new battery is about to die. Is there something that needs to be done to get the system to re-interigate the new battery, or is this a known bug. Regards, -+Chris -- ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe ) ) (| ), inc. SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd.; Suite 993 business driven Bloomington, MN 55437; technology solutions TEL 612.921.2392 FAX 612.921.2395 Fram Fram Free! PGP Key 1024/E8546BD5 FE 43 BD A6 3C 13 6C DB 89 B3 E4 A1 BF 6D 2A A9 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 05:08:12 -0600 From: "Chris Liljenstolpe - SSDS INFOSEC Eng." To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: group trackpoint cover order Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960325110812.0085d154@denver.ssds.com> Greetings, Who was organizing this? Regards, -=Chris -- ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe ) ) (| ), inc. SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd.; Suite 993 business driven Bloomington, MN 55437; technology solutions TEL 612.921.2392 FAX 612.921.2395 Fram Fram Free! PGP Key 1024/E8546BD5 FE 43 BD A6 3C 13 6C DB 89 B3 E4 A1 BF 6D 2A A9 ------------------------------ Date: 25 Mar 1996 09:58:19 -0400 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA To: Hugh Valliant CC: tp750 Subject: Re: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request Message-Id: <9603251801.AA5251@lgate.vmedia.com> "...I would appreciate it someone could advise me/us as to how they have their modems set up to handle the European telephone systems. He has an Apex 28.8 cellular fax/modem and an IBM 28.8 fax modem. Are there any particular codes that should go in the initialazion string for the modem. How do people who travel to Europe deal with this problem? What about Asia? Any advise??..." ~~~~~ i've only taken a 755cd to england & used the built in mwave modem to dial into uk isp's. made no initialization changes prior and had no problems. just bought an rj11 to uk adapter & everything ran smooth as silk. didn't try it anywhere else in europe & i've never been to asia. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:27:41 -0700 From: stu@opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (Stuart Biggar) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Solaris x86 (on a TP 755CX) Message-Id: <199603251527.IAA29776@cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> Anyone managed to configure x86 to work transparently in 2 modes (in a Dock 2 with ethernet and standalone without ethernet but using a PCMCIA modem for PPP)? I would be interested in anyone's experience and in asking questions of someone who is more of an expert than I. I have had x86 loaded for about 2 weeks (used little). (Have much more experience with Solaris 2.X on SPARC!) (755CX w/ 40 MB RAM, 1.2 GB disk, Solaris x86 2.5 with du1 and 800x600 256 color SVGA display patch, OpenWin patches, use NIS on local subnet - not on notebook as it hangs, ... Have Warp/Warp connect on another 1.2 and on SCSI in dock but need to run some fortran stuff in the field which is currently in Sun SPARC fortran and figured a port to x86 would be easier than getting and learning OS/2 Fortran, etc). Thanks, Stu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stuart F. Biggar Phone: (520) 621-8168 Remote Sensing Group FAX: (520) 621-8292 Optical Sciences Center University of Arizona 1600 N. Country Club Rd, Ste 100 Tucson, AZ 85716-3160 Internet: Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.arizona.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:44:03 -0500 From: duane@LARGE.CS.NYU.EDU (duane whitehurst) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ping and request for help Message-Id: hi i was directed to this mailing list to get an answer to this question: i've got a thinkpad 755c with 20MB ram and a 540 MB harddrive. i'd like to put linux on the machine. I've got the "bare" boot disk and "color" root disk for linux 3.0.0. i can get the machine to boot up from the floppy usint the ramdisk floppy=thinkpad option, but when i run fdisk to partition the rest of the drive for linux and swap, the fdisk program complains that the number of cylinders is 1047 which is larger than 1024. printing the partion table lists the drive as 16 heads, 63 sectors, and 1047 cylinders...i don't know if this is true and I can't find this information using dos's fdisk.. do you know the correct geometry for this drive and if there's any other "unique" things i need to know to get linux and Xfree86 up and running? thank you -_- duane ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:48:35 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: "John W. Sterni" CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Smartsuite CD Message-Id: On Sun, 24 Mar 1996, John W. Sterni wrote: > > Just to clear things up, this offer was for Thinkpads purchased before > > 15 Jan 1996. A flyer was included in the box detailing how to fax/mail > > the form in to receive your free copy of the Smartsuite CD. > > Does this include us that bought thinkpads two years ago ?? > Had to ask, please forgive me ... :) Sept 95 to 15 Jan 96. Offer expired 31 Jan 96. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 11:09:43 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: duane whitehurst CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ping and request for help Message-Id: On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, duane whitehurst wrote: > i've got a thinkpad 755c with 20MB ram and a 540 MB harddrive. > .. > 16 heads, 63 sectors, and 1047 cylinders...i don't know if this is true and > I can't find this information using dos's fdisk.. In the Linux distribution directory somewhere, there's a DOS program called dparam.com. Find it and give it a shot. It should give you the parameters your BIOS is remapping the hard drive to. -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:08:00 -0700 From: "David S. Crombie" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: need help with W95/LPT1 Message-Id: <3156D2F0.2C63@cadvision.com> I tried something in that I found in the Compuserve Canon forum - I changed the LPT1 device to "de-select" automatic settings in the resources tab in my control panel. This unfortunately caused major problems. i reversed what I did and lost my LPT1 port completely. I tried re-installing new hardware and this did not work. I then tried reinstalling W95 (by running setup.exe off disk A) but my system hangs. I am using a thinkpad 360c laptop. I would call IBM Helpline but they usually wash their hands of any W95 problems. Does anybody know what I can do to get my LPT1 port back up and running? Thanks in advance David Crombie dcrombie@cadvision.com -------------------------------- --96032512150228226-- End of thinkpad Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 18:49:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28845; Tue, 9 Apr 96 18:49:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28996; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:45:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:42:56 -0400 Received: from relay7.UU.NET (relay7.UU.NET [192.48.96.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28663; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:42:52 -0400 Received: from localhost by relay7.UU.NET with internal id QQaksy09068; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:00:53 -0400 (EDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@uunet.uu.net (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca: host not found) Message-Id: To: Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) The original message was received at Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:00:07 -0400 (EDT) from wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca [192.139.233.5] ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 ... Host unknown (Name server: fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca: host not found) ----- Original message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: from wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca by relay7.UU.NET with SMTP id QQaksy08772; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:00:07 -0400 (EDT) From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA24811 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:59:42 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 24 Mar 1996 12:27:53 U Subject: thinkpad digest for Sun To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Sun, 24 Mar 1996 Today's topics: Smartsuite CD (John H. Kim) Upgrades to 760CD (Robert Dewar) ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request (Hugh Valliant) Re: Smartsuite CD (Geza Szivos) ===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 277+ Popular USA Titles (Lucy Whitten) re: Re: HD shutdown utility (Joe.Bormel) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --96032412150210800 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --96032412150210800 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:57:21 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Smartsuite CD Message-Id: Recently purchased Thinkpads, including mine, came with a copy of Lotus Smartsuite on CD-ROM. The problem is most Thinkpads don't have a CD-ROM drive. Has anyone figured out how to install the thing? Just copying the files to a hard disk doesn't work. I can't seem to find the DLLs it needs to run the install program. -- John H. Kim "A citizen of America will cross the ocean to fight jokim@mit.edu for democracy, but won't cross the street to vote in jokim@tuna.mit.edu a national election." -- Bill Vaughan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:06:14 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Upgrades to 760CD Message-Id: <9603232106.AA05324@nile.gnat.com> Anyone know if the 120MHz upgrade is available from anyone yet? Also, my keyboard is getting worse and worse, keys seem to get stuck and require forcing down every now and then. Anyone else having this problem? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:25:44 -0500 From: valliant@micomtech.com (Hugh Valliant) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPads Overseas - 2nd request Message-Id: <199603232132.QAA16390@malone.inforamp.net> It's most unusualy but I've had no responese to this question from an very active list. Perhaps it didn't get posted the first time. Consequently, I'm sending it again. The original post. Recently a client went to England and Scotland on business and he was unable to connect to the telephone system so that he could dial into his ISP and to send and receive faxes. I would appreciate it someone could advise me/us as to how they have their modems set up to handle the European telephone systems. He has an Apex 28.8 cellular fax/modem and an IBM 28.8 fax modem. Are there any particular codes that should go in the initialazion string for the modem. How do people who travel to Europe deal with this problem? What about Asia? Any advise?? Currently, all modem functions work fine in North America. Thanks very much for all responses. Hugh ====================================================== MI-COM Technology Computer Solutions for Small Business Helping you access and travel the Information Highway Hugh A. Valliant Bus. (416) 726-5355 Fax. (416) 699-3847 Internet valliant@micomtech.com http://www.micomtech.com/~valliant/ ====================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 04:30:33 +0000 From: Geza Szivos To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Smartsuite CD Message-Id: <199603240430.EAA122667@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> At 03:57 PM 3/23/96 -0500, you wrote: >Recently purchased Thinkpads, including mine, came with a copy of Lotus >Smartsuite on CD-ROM. The problem is most Thinkpads don't have a >CD-ROM drive. Has anyone figured out how to install the thing? Just >copying the files to a hard disk doesn't work. I can't seem to find >the DLLs it needs to run the install program. >-- >John H. Kim "A citizen of America will cross the ocean to fight >jokim@mit.edu for democracy, but won't cross the street to vote in >jokim@tuna.mit.edu a national election." -- Bill Vaughan > Hmmm... I purchased a 760CD-C13, and I did NOT received a SmartSuite. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geza Szivos Systems Engineer, SIVCO Inc. BESTeam and TEAMOS2 Member Certified IBM OS/2 Expert, Certified LAN Server Expert and AD Specialist Tel: (403)-850-4500 FAX: (403)-547-4741 Szivos@ibm.net TalkLink:lnk9094 IBMMail(CANOVXVV) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 00:35:11 +0800 From: lucy27@track.uwra.ac.au (Lucy Whitten) Reply-To: please.respond.via.fax.or.smail@fax.number.shown.or.smail.address.shown.thank.you To: lucy27@track.uwra.ac.au Subject: ===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 277+ Popular USA Titles Message-Id: -----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info request form below. IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY: Please make sure you return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the actual form below. If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.* This is necessary in order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that they get daily. Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* if your fax: 1. has a cover page; 2. is more than one page 3. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form 4. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form. 5. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only* with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard). This last provision re: no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in via smail also. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NOTE: Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week. If you have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or first class mail). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------* REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover page) via 1-page fax to: 718-967-1550 in the USA or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to: Magazine Club Inquiry Center Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept. PO Box 990 Staten Island NY 10312-0990 Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one. :) ---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED. MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <--- Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: Lucy Whitten. 032296-l Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is Lucy Whitten and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, Lucy Whitten ps. please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net who you think might be interested in it! It is a great deal! If you join and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for each new person you get to join after you join! If you exceed 25 referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for Christmas, Chanukah or any other occasion. Please be kind enough to mention my name when you join. I will then get a free magazine for a year for referring you. Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 08:04:50 From: "Joe.Bormel" To: TOMF@conic.loral.com CC: pamaga@biobase.dk, Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: Re: HD shutdown utility Message-Id: <9602248276.AA827683490@espmail.espmail.com> > Hi! > Some time ago someone in this list mentioned a Toshiba utility that > could be used to silence the HD - if I remember right, this could be > used in different TP models without any problems at all. Ok, *where* > can I get hold of this little gem? And has anyone tried it on a TP750Cs? > Thanks for the info, The program is called COLAP.COM. It is a DOS TSR and I know that it works on the TP750C and the TP755CX. You need to invoke it as C:> colap /t Then, pressing Right-Shiftkey + Delete-key causes the immediate shutdown of the hard disk (and silent computing bliss). The disk does spin up whenever Windows (3.1 and 95) has the urge to look at the disk, which is required to do almost everything it does. As a result, the silence doesn't end up lasting for a meaningful period of time. -Joe -------------------------------- --96032412150210800-- End of thinkpad Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 19:14:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00109; Tue, 9 Apr 96 19:14:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01451; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:11:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:10:38 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01220; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:10:34 -0400 Received: (from buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) id QAA03862; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199604092310.QAA03862@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 15:14:52 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Don't want the digest Could whoever is sending this defective digest of the list delete me from distribution on the digest without interfering with the regular list please. It is nothing but an incomprehensible mess that ties my server up for an excessive length of time. ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 ----------------------------- AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I would rather die peacefully, in my sleep, like my Grandfather, rather than screaming, and in terror, like his passengers..." From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 21:28:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09070; Tue, 9 Apr 96 21:28:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20067; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:09:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:03:25 -0400 Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18856; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:03:01 -0400 Received: from localhost by relay5.UU.NET with internal id QQaksy21157; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:02:16 -0400 (EDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@uunet.uu.net (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca: host not found) Message-Id: To: Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) The original message was received at Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:00:38 -0400 (EDT) from wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca [192.139.233.5] ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 ... Host unknown (Name server: fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca: host not found) ----- Original message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: from wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP id QQaksy20699; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:00:38 -0400 (EDT) From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA24825 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:59:57 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 23 Mar 1996 12:23:48 U Subject: thinkpad digest for Sat To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Sat, 23 Mar 1996 Today's topics: Re: battery replacement under warr? (Chris Schumann) Re: battery replacement under warr? (Robert Dewar) com1 and com2 (William Ng) Re: com1 and com2 (Mark Bell) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --9603231215017835 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --9603231215017835 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:50:36 -0600 From: "Chris Schumann" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: battery replacement under warr? Message-Id: <7C9F6A07608@leonardo.lmt.com> With my 750P, I've kept it suspended for well over 24 hours on its NiMH battery. Chris ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 06:39:47 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: battery replacement under warr? A couple of comments on batteries. I have never seen a battery fail, but I am very careful: Never start a recharge without going all the way down (so nice and easy to do on the TP with the recharge option), and never leave a battery in the machine for a long time cycling between 90-100%. Note that with the Li-Ion batteries, these precautions are unnecessary (indeed the 90-100 cycling business does not occur with li-ion's, they always keep a 100% charge inside the machine). P.S. I note with Li-Ion's, that I can keep my 760CD suspended for days, with relatively little battery drain, whereas before, the combination ofbattery drain and decay with the Nimh batteries meant rather short suspend times. That's handy, I have not rebooted my OS/2 system for weeks now. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 16:23:27 -0500 From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) To: CHRISSC@leonardo.lmt.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: battery replacement under warr? Message-Id: <9603222123.AA04631@nile.gnat.com> "With my 750P, I've kept it suspended for well over 24 hours on its NiMH battery." Sure 24 hours is nothing, after 24 hours my LiIon battery typically reads 94% or so. I have kept suspended for several days. I would guess I could suspend for a couple of weeks. I would try it, except cannot afford to be without machine that long :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:56:54 -0800 From: wmng@berlioz.nsc.com (William Ng) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: com1 and com2 Message-Id: <9603222156.AA18770@berlioz.nsc.com> I have a TP755CX, I only seem to have com1 active. I think com1 is the Mwave dsp modem. How could I activate com2 so that I can use the RS232 connector at the back? or TP755CX only come with one com port? Thanks. -William Ng NSC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 22:05:54 -0500 From: Mark Bell To: wmng@berlioz.nsc.com (William Ng) CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: com1 and com2 Message-Id: <199603230305.WAA21121@interramp.com> At 01:56 PM 3/22/96 PST, you wrote: >I have a TP755CX, I only seem to have com1 active. I think com1 is the Mwave dsp modem. >How could I activate com2 so that I can use the RS232 connector at the back? or TP755CX >only come with one com port? You need to use the setup to enable the port, but you also need to disable a device with the PS2 command. I had this same problem, and I ended up disabling the IR device via software, and enabling the RS-232 port via hardware. #---------------------------------------------------------------------# # ** Trying to find the meaning of life and our existance, this is ** # #Mark Bell * 800 College Drive #104 * Vineland, NJ * 08360 *6093274029# #--------------->Email: bytehead@interramp.com<-----------------------# -------------------------------- --9603231215017835-- End of thinkpad Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 21:51:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10102; Tue, 9 Apr 96 21:51:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16279; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:46:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:38:41 -0400 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14993; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:38:31 -0400 Received: by cicerone.uunet.ca id <166514-3>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:33:50 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: The Post Office Sender: mailer-daemon@cicerone.uunet.ca Subject: Unresolvable mail address Cc: The Post Office Message-Id: <96Apr9.163350edt.166514-3@cicerone.uunet.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:33:50 -0400 A copy of your message is being returned to you because one or more of the addresses you specified could not be recognized as addresses that are understood by, or reachable from, this system. 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This happens when your envelope address looks like user@site.dom, where site.dom is not a valid hostname. error: unresolvable: ebourne@fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca ------- Original Message follows ------- external rcvdfrom wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca ([192.139.233.5]) with SMTP from to Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA23126 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:31:59 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 12 Mar 1996 12:34:54 U From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinkpad digest for Tue To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Tue, 12 Mar 1996 Today's topics: Linux XF86Config..help! (Peter Goddard) Re: Linux XF86Config..help! (Pancrazio DE MAURO) Thinkpad 755CD and MWAVE and connecting data/fax-modem (Thomas van Kuipers) 755C and docking station (King, Randall) Re: 755C and docking station (Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) 755 + Sony PRD-150 Works? (R T Goeltz) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ ------------------------------ Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 02:48:02 +0000 From: Peter Goddard To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux XF86Config..help! Message-Id: <3144e3b2.1105308@post.demon.co.uk> Hi there, Ive got Linux (slackware 2.1.1) installed on my TP755CE. Installation and setup quite easy, and it runs fine....but...X is causing me trouble.I'd like to solve the problem myself but without extensive specs on the TP display I don't think I'll be able to get to dot clock settings in XF86Config correct. I did get X running the other day but now it refuses so if some kind soul out there has a working XF86Config file I'd be grateful to see it. I need to configure X for the active matrix display only, not for any ext monitor. BTW I didn't use any of Michael Steiners patches, basically because I can't find them...do I need these to run X on the TP, like I said it ran fine the other day but that seems to have been a flash in the pan. TIA Pete ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:28:14 +0100 From: Pancrazio DE MAURO To: pete@poppy.demon.co.uk, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux XF86Config..help! Message-Id: <3145359E.5663@cicladi.unial.it> Peter Goddard wrote: [SNIP] > X is causing me trouble. [SNIP] > so if some kind soul out there has a working XF86Config > file I'd be grateful to see it. I need to configure X for the active > matrix display only, not for any ext monitor. BTW I didn't use any of > Michael Steiners patches, basically because I can't find them... Patches? What patches? > do I need these to run X on the TP I didn't install any patch and X works fine I have a ThinkPad 755C but I think the video hardware is quite the same. I use the config file I found at http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/tp-linux.html BTW does anybody know when Takao Moriyama is going to release the audio drivers for ThinkPad 750/755? I wrote to him some time ago but I don't want to bother him too much... Ciao, -- _____ __ Linux RULES (and it's free!) | | |\ /| Pancrazio DE MAURO | +--+ | \/ | email: pdm@cicladi.unial.it |__|_____|______| IRC: Trantor ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: <199603082123.NAA25484@watson.mbb.sfu.ca> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:34:00 +0100 From: Thomas van Kuipers To: mwave-l@watson.mbb.sfu.ca CC: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 755CD and MWAVE and connecting data/fax-modem Message-Id: Hi All, I'm intrested in buying a US-plug in USA or anywhere else to use it in Netherlands and abroad, because then i could upgrade to 28k8+dvsd (only us-versions of the telephone plug support the upgrade). I hate to buy a optional DAA/telephony kit, just to connect to the phone line (because the telco wants it that way) and to have only 14k4, while 28k8 is possibly in US for free... If someone of you can deliver a US-plug for a nice price (don't matter which country from, because i believe such a things will cost <=$50) please email me. Thanks in advance. <---------------------------------------------------------------------------> Thomas van Kuipers Email University: tjwhkuip@cs.ruu.nl *** TEAM OS/2 *** De Wadden 49 The Netherlands 3524 AG Utrecht Tel: +31 30 884235 or 06-52634180 (always available) <---------------------------------------------------------------------------> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 08:32:00 -0800 From: "King, Randall" To: thinkpad Subject: 755C and docking station Message-Id: <3145A669@Horizon.kodak.com> Hello all, We recently 'discovered' an older 755C (we are using Cx's), and I have hit a little snag. I have loaded Windows 95 on it (please no comments from the peanut gallery), and it works perfect. Now we put it in a docking station (Dock2), and we want to be able to close the lid and have the system not go into suspend mode. The old PS2 commands won't work in 95. Does anyone have any suggestions? RK ------------------------------ Date: 12 Mar 1996 09:22:20 -0500 From: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus To: "King Randall" CC: thinkpad Subject: Re: 755C and docking station Message-Id: <9603121420.AA27742@internet1.lotus.com> Get the TP Utilities disk from http://www.pcco.ibm.com/ in the Thinkpad section. Do the install and follow the directions. Then after install, bring up the power settings and check the box that says to "Don't suspend when the lid is closed" or something similar. Should work like a champ. To bad Wind95 won't ... Have you thought of OS/2 Warp ??? It'll run a lot better on the 'C' than Wind95. The MS junk sorta gets lost without it's PNP .... -Bill Warping into the Future OS/2 Warp and Lotus Notes rjking @ kodak.com ("King, Randall") 03-12-96 08:32 AM To: thinkpad @ cs.utk.edu @ INTERNET cc: (bcc: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Subject: 755C and docking station Hello all, We recently 'discovered' an older 755C (we are using Cx's), and I have hit a little snag. I have loaded Windows 95 on it (please no comments from the peanut gallery), and it works perfect. Now we put it in a docking station (Dock2), and we want to be able to close the lid and have the system not go into suspend mode. The old PS2 commands won't work in 95. Does anyone have any suggestions? RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:58:53 -0500 From: rtg@ornl.gov ( R T Goeltz) Reply-To: rtg@ornl.gov To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755 + Sony PRD-150 Works? Message-Id: <9603121558.AA04105@jsbach.cad.ornl.gov> TP'ers: Does anyone have a Sony PRD-150 working with a 755 (DOS/3.1)? The PRD-150 doesn't see SS/CS of IBM's (updated) PCMCIA drivers and the Sony's PCMCIA drivers cause havoc. Please respond directly and I'll summarize. Thanks. Rick -------------------------------- End of thinkpad Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 22:08:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10231; Tue, 9 Apr 96 22:08:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16539; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:47:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:40:47 -0400 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15304; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:40:23 -0400 Received: by cicerone.uunet.ca id <166578-1>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:38:39 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: The Post Office Sender: mailer-daemon@cicerone.uunet.ca Subject: Unresolvable mail address Cc: The Post Office Message-Id: <96Apr9.163839edt.166578-1@cicerone.uunet.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:38:38 -0400 A copy of your message is being returned to you because one or more of the addresses you specified could not be recognized as addresses that are understood by, or reachable from, this system. 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This happens when your envelope address looks like user@site.dom, where site.dom is not a valid hostname. error: unresolvable: ebourne@fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca ------- Original Message follows ------- external rcvdfrom wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca ([192.139.233.5]) with SMTP from to Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA23492 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:38:15 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 3 Apr 1996 12:25:44 U From: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thinkpad digest for Wed To: "thinkpad-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP thinkpad digest for Wed, 03 Apr 1996 Today's topics: IBM PC Factory Outlet (John H. Kim) Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (Gerry Prosser) tp755 caddies (Paul Rubin) unsubscribe (Dom Virgilio) Re: Optimize memory on 701 & QEMM? (Randy Whittle) Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! (Geza Szivos) (Nigel Jones) International mail order company selling 701CS? (Alvin Chua) (Sam King) 16MB card (Roger J. Buffington) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ --96040312150218219 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> --96040312150218219 Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 13:13:45 -0500 From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: IBM PC Factory Outlet Message-Id: Spotted this while visiting IBM's web site. IBM's PC Factory Outlet has a list of new and refurbished stuff, including 170MB hard drives (with caddy) for TP 360/750/755 for $65: ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/hardware_announcements/pcoutlet.txt -- John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole jokim@tuna.mit.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 20:17:00 -0000 From: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk (Gerry Prosser) Reply-To: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk To: tp750@cs.utk.edu CC: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk Subject: Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9604021617.AA10601@biobase.dk> add the following line (or your version thereof) to the config.sys on diskette # 1: set sourcepath=f:\os2image where directory 'os2image' contains all the individual subdirectories, disk_0, disk_1 .... etc I do this all the time with my 755CD ..... Gerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 11:22:05 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: tp755 caddies Message-Id: <199604021922.LAA15417@netcom14.netcom.com> Some company I haven't been able to find the name of is making a metal caddy that fits my 755cx. The metal is a little thinner than the IBM plastic caddy, so you can put a 19mm high drive in it. Also, it is held together with screws, so you can change the drive inside without breaking any ultrasonic welds or the like. It's nice. I don't know where to buy them but maybe someone else here does. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 11:57:00 -0800 From: Dom Virgilio To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: unsubscribe Message-Id: <199604021957.LAA13197@linda.teleport.com> Please unsubscribe domv@teleport.com Thanks, Dom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 15:46:14 -0800 From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) To: Michael Verne/VENTANA , tp750 Subject: Re: Optimize memory on 701 & QEMM? Message-Id: At 12:03 PM 4/2/96, Michael Verne/VENTANA "...I tried to install QEMM to optimize my memory, it went through pretty >good, except that it started out with like 7x10E18 combinations, and I >waited for it to drop to about 7x10E15 (15 minutes)and selected the >already maximized configuration, No I do not exagerate the magnatude of >the numbers,... >...How should one optimize the memory on a 701? What have people done to >otimizr the first 640k?..." > >~~~~~ >i like ramdoubler. it's by connectix & it takes all of 20 seconds to install >in windows. it's for windows only, so it won't do your dos apps any good. RAMDoubler is a great product, but keep in mind they have not yet released a version for Windows '95--and the current version won't work right under Win '95. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 04:54:55 +0000 From: Geza Szivos To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: OS/2 and Panasonic CDROM: Help! Message-Id: <199604030454.EAA140731@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> >COpy the disk images to this partition from DOS from the OS/2 CD ROM > >Make a modified version of the installation diskettes pointing to >the diskette images (I forget exactly how this is done but it is >trivial, and the procedure is in the 760CD manual if someone has >one handy). > use the SET SOURCEPATH={YourDrive:\YourPath} on the Diskette 1's config.sys. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geza Szivos Systems Engineer, SIVCO Inc. BESTeam and TEAMOS2 Member Certified IBM OS/2 Engineer, Certified LAN Server Engineer and AD Specialist Tel: (403)-850-4500 FAX: (403)-547-4741 Szivos@ibm.net TalkLink:lnk9094 IBMMail(CANOVXVV) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 08:14:37 +0100 From: "Nigel Jones" Reply-To: jonesn@hursley.ibm.com To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <9604030714.AA66417@hursley.ibm.com> subscribe -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Nigel Jones MP 183 jonesn@hursley.ibm.com Tel: +44 1962 815259 DirectTalk/6000 Development IBM Web http://hurwww.hursley.ibm.com/~jonesn/ CATS, IBM UK Laboratories IBM WWW page at http://www.ibm.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 22:52:22 +0000 From: fba40221@leonis.nus.sg (Alvin Chua) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: International mail order company selling 701CS? Message-Id: <3162ff79.12406938@137.132.1.18> Hi, Before I begin, I apologise for being on this list even though I don't own a TP7xx series. I do have a TP500 though. I saw IBM's factory outlet selling the following : 486DX4-75 RFRB 8MB 360MB 10.4"/VGA/COLOR* W 2630-2SU $1279 However, I cannot call IBM because I am living in Singapore. Does anyone know of a mail order company that has a similar model for about this price (I can't afford the model with 720mb harddisk). Thank you, Alvin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 20:28:39 +0800 From: skat@pacific.net.sg (Sam King ) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960403122839.00684740@pacific.net.sg> subscribe --- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 06:37:36 -0500 From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 16MB card Message-Id: <199604031431.GAA09021@chaph.usc.edu> I would be interested in buying anyone's used 16MB memory card suitable for the TP755Cs. I am presently running 8MB, and would like to upgrade to 16, but cannot afford a new card. Anyone? ---------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 ----------------------------- AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I would rather die peacefully, in my sleep, like my Grandfather, rather than screaming, and in terror, like his passengers..." -------------------------------- --96040312150218219-- End of thinkpad Digest From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 9 22:11:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10568; Tue, 9 Apr 96 22:11:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16705; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:48:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:42:49 -0400 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15657; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:42:35 -0400 Received: by cicerone.uunet.ca id <166586-6>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:42:26 -0400 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: The Post Office Sender: mailer-daemon@cicerone.uunet.ca Subject: Unresolvable mail address Cc: The Post Office Message-Id: <96Apr9.164226edt.166586-6@cicerone.uunet.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:42:26 -0400 A copy of your message is being returned to you because one or more of the addresses you specified could not be recognized as addresses that are understood by, or reachable from, this system. 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This happens when your envelope address looks like user@site.dom, where site.dom is not a valid hostname. error: unresolvable: ebourne@fcgate.maplesoft.on.ca ------- Original Message follows ------- external rcvdfrom wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca ([192.139.233.5]) with SMTP from to Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA23690 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:42:08 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 29 Feb 1996 12:52:15 U From: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: tp750 digest for Thu, 2 To: "tp750-digest-recipients:;" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Mail*Link(r) SMTP tp750 digest for Thu, 29 Feb 1996 Today's topics: RE: Setup questions (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=C9ric_Tr=E9panier?=) SUBSCRIBE TO THINKPAD MAIL_LIST (John McMahon (UK)) Introduction (Ronald M. Egalka) Re: Mwave audio from unix (linux) (Alex Judd) MWave Setup Questions (Alex Judd) ******************* NOTE ******************* There may be important message content contained in the following MIME Information. ******************************************** ------------------ MIME Information follows ------------------ ------------------------------ Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-description: Today's topics <<<<<< See above "Message Body" >>>>>> ------------------------------ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:49:18 -0500 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C9ric_Tr=E9panier?= To: "'Howard Price'" CC: "'ThinkPad Distribution List'" Subject: RE: Setup questions Message-Id: <01BB05DB.310F8CE0@cmxc5q.QC.Bell.CA> On February 28, 1996 10:53 AM, Howard = Price[SMTP:hprice@girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu] wrote: > I'll repost my prior question: I have a TP755CD, and need some help = with > setup-type questions, which arose in trying to run 11th Hour game in = pure > DOS (I otherwise am still using win3.1). I'm a little disappointed in = the > paucity of IBM documentation for much of these down-and-dirty setup = type > programs: >=20 > 1. Does anyone know about the command switches for mwave? I'm trying = to > understand mwave.bat, and can't tell the difference between "start" = and > "on", or what "reconfig" is for, or what "show" and "noshow" do in = parameter > 2 place. Similarly, what do I need to diddle in mwgames.bat? I only use the Windows Mwave support (I don't use mwave.bat or = mwgames.bat) so I can't help you with this one. >=20 > 2. When and how does one use the ibmadvesa advanced vesa support? I = tried > running tpadvesa.exe, but it said it was already running, even though = it's > not in autoexec.bat. Ditto here, I do not use advanced vesa. >=20 > 3. Should one run dos's power.exe, or is that redundant with those = other two > strange autoexec lines of v7320.exe (or something like that) that seem = to be > power managers? I believe the v7320apm.exe you are referring supports power management = functions for the Enhanced Video Device/MPEG adaptor only. If you are = running under DOS/Windows 3.x, you should keep the POWER.EXE line in you = config.sys. If you are running under Win95, then you can remove POWER.EXE. >=20 > 4. Has anyone succeeded with running 11th Hour? I don't have this game... >=20 > 5. Does ps2 hfile_c need to be run each time you reboot? I understand = it > creates the hard disk memory map for sleep, but the size of it = shouldn't > change with each boot. Correct. You can safely remove this line. Just remember to refresh the = hibernation file if you add/remove memory later. >=20 > 6. There are other similar arcane lines in the original autoexec.bat = which I > hesitate to remove, since there's no documentation. What lines in particular? Note that if you are running under Win95, you = can *eventually* remove most lines from config.sys, once you replace the = DOS mode drivers (CDROM, PCMCIA, etc.) by their Win95 counterparts. My = own config.sys is only three lines long: device=3Dc:\mww\manager\mwd50430.exe device=3Dc:\windows\system\v7320mgr.exe device=3Dc:\windows\system\v7320apm.exe And my autoexec.bat is not much bigger either: @echo off path c:\windows;c:\windows\command;c:\mww\dll;c:\pkware; set dircmd=3D/ogen doskey /insert del=3Ddel $1 /p >nul >=20 > Thanks. >=20 >=20 >=20 Hope this helps... Eric +---------------------+-----------------------------------+--------------= ---+ | Eric Trepanier | The opinions expressed above | Advertize = Here! | | etrepani@qc.bell.ca | are my own and do not represent | = | | (514) 391-8126 | my company's opinions in any way. | = | +---------------------+-----------------------------------+--------------= ---+ ------------------------------ Date: 28 Feb 1996 14:43:22 -0500 From: "John McMahon (UK)" <100737.3200@compuserve.com> To: THINKPAD Subject: SUBSCRIBE TO THINKPAD MAIL_LIST Message-Id: <960228194322_100737.3200_EHV101-1@CompuServe.COM> PLEASE PUT ME ON THE THINKPAD MAIL LIST. THANKS JOHN MCMAHON 755CS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 02:41:55 -0500 From: "Ronald M. Egalka" To: Thinkpad List Subject: Introduction Message-Id: <313558C3.1320@rimco.com> Hi all, Name's Ron. I've been using this Thinkpad 755CD since June '95. Presently configured: Win95; 16mb ram; 810mb disk; 28.8 MWave 2.0 modem (although I've only had marginal success with 28.8); 2.88mb floppy (it was a replacement by IBM when the first 1.44 bit the dust!). Generally very satisfied w/the machine, service, etc. Win95 still seems to find an extra device in the device manager section which IBM can't figure out - but it doesn't harm anything. I haven't had any difficulties with Win95, Netscape or most of the problems I've been reading on comp.sys.laptops - maybe I'm lucky!? I wonder if anyone has done the upgrade to Win95 on a 755 and noticed any problem or improvement. Thanks, Ron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:33:21 +0000 From: Alex Judd To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mwave audio from unix (linux) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960229103321.0067dc04@tiree.quantime.co.uk> >>I've tried booting DOS and then warm booting Linux using LOADLIN, >>thinking this would allow DOS to get the Mwave system up and running. >>However, I didn't have any luck. I don't know if this is a problem with >>IRQ or similar settings. I've configured my Linux kernel to support >>various audio systems, including SoundBlaster, SoundBlaster 16, and >>SoundBlaster Pro. This is the right way to do it. Configure Linux for SoundBlaster (I use SB16), and then run Linux with LOADLIN. This will allow you to use the sound functions (playback etc) but there is no way we can figure to use the modem under Linux, I think because there is no DMA access using Linux and the modem part appears to need to use one. Alex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:03:26 +0000 From: Alex Judd To: hprice@girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu (Howard Price) CC: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: MWave Setup Questions Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960229110326.0076eeb8@tiree.quantime.co.uk> >1. Does anyone know about the command switches for mwave? I'm trying to >understand mwave.bat, and can't tell the difference between "start" and >"on", or what "reconfig" is for, or what "show" and "noshow" do in parameter >2 place. Similarly, what do I need to diddle in mwgames.bat? Parameters for MWGAMES: Usage: "MWGAMES ON" loads emulation code "MWGAMES ON PRO" loads SB-Pro I emulation code "MWGAMES ON PROQ" loads SB-Pro I emulation code w/QSound "MWGAMES ON PRO+" loads SB-Pro I emulation code w/Effects "MWGAMES ON MIN" loads emulation code w/o record "MWGAMES ON CD" loads emulation code w/line-in to CD-DAC "MWGAMES ON SAMPLES" loads SB-Pro I emulation code with sampled s "MWGAMES OFF" unloads emulation code Parameters for MWAVE: (from reading the batch file) on - loads mwdos or mwaudio depending on the configuration set my user in mwcfg (the reasons it runs mwcfg is because the error codes produced when mwcfg closes tell the batch script what bits of mwave are needed to be loaded.) show - shows the current configurations when mwcfg is run noshow - doesn't show the configurations (same as \mwd\manager\mwcfg