From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 1 02:30:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA084323847; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 02:30:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05921; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 02:30:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 1 Jan 1997 02:25:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05453; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 02:25:15 -0500 Received: from sammy.netpathway.com (root@ts1.netpathway.com [208.137.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05440; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 02:25:08 -0500 Received: from egiles (port13.netpathway.com [208.137.139.28]) by sammy.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA31386 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 01:25:04 -0600 Message-Id: <199701010725.BAA31386@sammy.netpathway.com> From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: Re: TP 701C refresh rates on ext. monitor Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 01:22:45 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry about the lack of information- I would like to use it at either 640x480 or 800x600, both at 256 colors. The newest drivers dated 11/8/96 cause the system to hang. I am using the Win 95 upgrade with Service Pack 1. This was a 'clean' install over PC DOS 6.3. I may try Service Release 2 to see if this helps. ---------- > From: John H. Kim > To: Eric Giles > Subject: Re: TP 701C refresh rates on ext. monitor > Date: Tuesday, December 31, 1996 10:32 PM > > On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Eric Giles wrote: > > > I'm trying to increase the refresh rate on my 701C using a MAG Innovision > > DX15F. I'm using the C&T Win 95 drivers dated 7/11/96. The refresh tab in > > the display properties will not allow me to select anything. I've just > > installed the latest driver that is DirectX 3.0 compatible, but now my > > system hangs on reboot. Selecting the proper .inf file for the monitor > > doesn't help either. Any help with this is greatly appreciated. > > It would help if you told us what resolution and color depth > you're trying to run this in. > -- > John H. Kim > jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 1 11:53:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA149787591; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 11:53:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09944; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 11:51:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 1 Jan 1997 11:44:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09199; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 11:44:28 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09193; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 11:44:26 -0500 Received: from 701c (liv-44.rust.net [206.42.195.144]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.4/8.8.0) with SMTP id LAA29657; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 11:43:33 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970101114406.006ccbb0@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 11:44:21 -0500 To: "Douglas W. Diamond" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: X-Jack modem in TP 701C? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:43 PM 12/31/96 -0600, you wrote: >Has anyone used a Megahertz X-Jack modem in a 701? I bought one, and the phone line connector barely fits under the butterfly keyboard. Will it kill the X-Jack due to pressure, or does this work? > >Thanks >Doug Diamond > Although it's not a great arrangement, I have been using one for almost a year now without any problems. The Megahertz X-Jack is very strong. B/B ======================================================================= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "At Radio Shack, You've Got Questions? We've Got Blank Stares." ======================================================================= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 1 15:03:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA172779027; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 15:03:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19688; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 15:02:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:56:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19217; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:56:29 -0500 Received: from asylum.apocalypse.org (root@asylum.sf.ca.us [192.48.232.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19211; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:56:27 -0500 Received: from belvedere.Catch22.COM (belvedere.Catch22.COM [204.182.15.40]) by asylum.apocalypse.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA07573 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:56:22 -0500 From: lang@apocalypse.org (Lang Zerner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Dock II for sale Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 19:57:11 GMT Organization: ITC Consulting Group Reply-To: lang@apocalypse.org Message-Id: <32cbaa08.471764439@192.48.232.17> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Somebody recently posted here a desire to purchase a Dock II. I have a = Dock II and Display Shelf (which lets you use the Dock II as a display monitor stand as well as a docking station) that I don't use. I've still got = proof of ownership and original packaging. I'm offering it for sale at a fair price, or by two-round auction if nobody offers my asking price. To find a fair price for a like-new-but-used Dock II, I called PC = Connection, a major U.S. discount computer equipment seller. They have five used, "refurbished" Dock IIs in stock right now for US$600 each, plus shipping. They also sell the Display Shelf for US$65 plus shipping. I'll match PC Connection's US$600 price for the Dock II and throw in the Display Shelf for free (you pay shipping from San Francisco, California). The person who originally posted the request gets priority; offer my = asking price by 11:59pm January 15 and you get it (please let me know it is = you). If the original requester does not offer my asking price, I'll sell it to= the first person who offers my asking price before 11:59pm January 15. If nobody offers my asking price by 11:59pm January 15, I'll announce the highest bid and allow one week to beat it. If no higher bid arrives by 11:59pm January 23, I'll sell to the highest bidder. If a higher bid = arrives by 11:59pm January 23, I'll announce the new high bid and allow one week = to beat it, and I'll sell the Dock II to the highest bidder as of 11:59pm January 31. =46or purposes of this sale, dates and times for e-mail bids are = determined by the date and time my POP server (in the U.S. Eastern Standard Time zone) receives the message, as noted in the message headers. If you are = concerned that your e-mail bid will not arrive in a timely fashion, you are welcome= to fax your bid to +1 415 431 9647. Be seeing you... --Lang --- ITC Consulting Group integrated communication consulting services 915 Cole Street #151 internet publishing * networks * training * = design San Francisco, CA 94117 +1 800 673 7172 (outside USA call +1 415 861 = 7688) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 1 15:27:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA176050476; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 15:27:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21465; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 15:26:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 1 Jan 1997 15:21:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21090; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 15:21:12 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21083; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 15:21:09 -0500 Received: from borg.mindspring.com (borg.mindspring.com [204.180.128.14]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA23886; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 15:21:07 -0500 Received: from pentium-133 (user-37kb69n.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.153.55]) by borg.mindspring.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01712; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 15:20:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970101202108.00682db4@atl.mindspring.com> X-Sender: rchalk@atl.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 15:21:08 -0500 To: lang@apocalypse.org From: Richard Chalk Subject: Re: Dock II for sale Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Champion Computers, here in Atlanta, regularly has Dock II units, which they sell for around $400, sometimes as low as $350. These are frequently customer-returns, in new condition. I have one I bought, with the 2x CD-ROM, from them for $400. $600 is WAY above the going price for a used one...they weren't much more than that new. I seem to remember $700+ You might want to rethink your asking price... Regards, Richard At 07:57 PM 1/1/97 GMT, you wrote: >Somebody recently posted here a desire to purchase a Dock II. I have a Dock >II and Display Shelf (which lets you use the Dock II as a display monitor >stand as well as a docking station) that I don't use. I've still got proof >of ownership and original packaging. I'm offering it for sale at a fair >price, or by two-round auction if nobody offers my asking price. > >To find a fair price for a like-new-but-used Dock II, I called PC Connection, >a major U.S. discount computer equipment seller. They have five used, >"refurbished" Dock IIs in stock right now for US$600 each, plus shipping. >They also sell the Display Shelf for US$65 plus shipping. > >I'll match PC Connection's US$600 price for the Dock II and throw in the >Display Shelf for free (you pay shipping from San Francisco, California). >The person who originally posted the request gets priority; offer my asking >price by 11:59pm January 15 and you get it (please let me know it is you). >If the original requester does not offer my asking price, I'll sell it to the >first person who offers my asking price before 11:59pm January 15. > >If nobody offers my asking price by 11:59pm January 15, I'll announce the >highest bid and allow one week to beat it. If no higher bid arrives by >11:59pm January 23, I'll sell to the highest bidder. If a higher bid arrives >by 11:59pm January 23, I'll announce the new high bid and allow one week to >beat it, and I'll sell the Dock II to the highest bidder as of 11:59pm >January 31. > >For purposes of this sale, dates and times for e-mail bids are determined by >the date and time my POP server (in the U.S. Eastern Standard Time zone) >receives the message, as noted in the message headers. If you are concerned >that your e-mail bid will not arrive in a timely fashion, you are welcome to >fax your bid to +1 415 431 9647. > >Be seeing you... >--Lang >--- >ITC Consulting Group integrated communication consulting services >915 Cole Street #151 internet publishing * networks * training * design >San Francisco, CA 94117 +1 800 673 7172 (outside USA call +1 415 861 7688) > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 1 18:08:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA196590090; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:08:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01331; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:06:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:00:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00777; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:00:24 -0500 Received: from asylum.apocalypse.org (root@asylum.sf.ca.us [192.48.232.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00767; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:00:20 -0500 Received: from belvedere.Catch22.COM (belvedere.Catch22.COM [204.182.15.40]) by asylum.apocalypse.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA12699 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:00:15 -0500 From: lang@apocalypse.org (Lang Zerner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Dock II for sale Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 23:01:03 GMT Organization: ITC Consulting Group Reply-To: lang@apocalypse.org Message-Id: <32cce954.487971222@192.48.232.17> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Richard Chalk has kindly informed me that = used Dock IIs can be had for around $400. I based my $600 asking price on PC Connection's price for a refurbished Dock II. I asked what I thought was= a reasonable price and was mistaken. To those of you who felt it necessary= to mock me for my error, a hearty Bronx cheer. Anyway, I amend my previous message so that the asking price is $400 or = best offer, again with the Display Shelf thrown in for free. The terms of the sale are the same as before, with "or best offer" decided by two-round auction. Bronx cheer recipients, if you have an opinion, please try to = find a more constructive way to express it than "You must be joking." :-) Be seeing you... --Lang --- ITC Consulting Group integrated communication consulting services 915 Cole Street #151 internet publishing * networks * training * = design San Francisco, CA 94117 +1 800 673 7172 (outside USA call +1 415 861 = 7688) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 1 19:57:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA210926661; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 19:57:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06295; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 19:56:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 1 Jan 1997 19:49:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05886; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 19:49:55 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05880; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 19:49:52 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-35.usc.edu [128.125.223.179]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id QAA18071; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 16:49:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970101164752.0068eca4@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 16:50:18 -0800 To: "Douglas W. Diamond" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: X-Jack modem in TP 701C? Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:43 PM 12/31/96 -0600, Douglas W. Diamond wrote: >Has anyone used a Megahertz X-Jack modem in a 701? I bought one, and the phone line connector barely fits under the butterfly keyboard. Will it kill the X-Jack due to pressure, or does this work? Worked fine for me for about a year. I've since turned the 701 over to my wife and use the X-jack in a 560 now. One hitch is I made sure I put the X-jack in the #2 (Bottom) slot to make sure I allowed for as much clearance as possible between it and the keyboard that folds out over it. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 1 22:30:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA231795816; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:30:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14944; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:28:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:23:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14581; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:23:19 -0500 Received: from VM.NMU.EDU (VM.NMU.EDU [198.110.200.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14563; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:23:12 -0500 Received: from NMU.EDU by VM.NMU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 9292; Wed, 01 Jan 97 22:22:19 EST Received: by NMU.EDU (MUSIC Mailer V5.1.0); Wed, 01 Jan 97 22:22:18 EST Received: from [198.110.207.225] by NMU.EDU (MUSIC Mailer V5.1.0) with POP3 for ; Wed, 01 Jan 1997 22:22:14 EST Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970101222213.006967ec@pop.mail.nmu.edu> X-Sender: dmaki@pop.mail.nmu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 22:22:16 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Maki Subject: Looking for IBM 360PE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am looking for info on where to purchase an IBM 360PE. Thanks. David Maki Director of Systems Programming and Operations AdIT Technical Services Norther Michigan University Marquette, MI 49855 (906) 227 1262 (906) 227 2247 Fax dmaki@nmu.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 2 06:22:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA293664149; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 06:22:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07071; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 06:22:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 06:17:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06444; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 06:17:08 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06438; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 06:17:06 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA08024; Wed, 1 Jan 97 22:16:50 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA14415; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:17:20 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199701020817.WAA14415@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: AMD "more than double"? (was: Upgrade Question) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 1 Jan 97 22:17:18 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) In-Reply-To: <961231201317_36488141@emout17.mail.aol.com>; from "PEPSales@aol.com" at Dec 31, 96 8:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > with excellent results. If you have a DX2/50 processor, the AMD 5X86/100mhz > CPU will more than double the response of your system. Our benchmarks show > your response to be the response equivalent of the Pentium 75. Please contact > me if you have any other questions or concerns. By "response time" I assume you mean whole system (and not just CPU measures like MIPS or dhrystones or whetstones, the kind of measures used by Landmark and Norton); do you have any benchmark results supporting this? (EG, before-and-after scores on the Ziff-Davis Winstone test.) I know that the AMD586 does really well on Landmark and Norton, but haven't seen any *useful* comparisons on the 701. - David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 2 09:37:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA024535831; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:37:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19693; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:36:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:31:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19225; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:31:15 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19208; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:31:08 -0500 Received: from blue (blue.sa.enteract.com [206.54.253.122]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA25584; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 08:31:03 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199701021431.IAA25584@babel.enteract.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Gene J" To: lang@apocalypse.org (Lang Zerner), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 08:31:26 +0000 Subject: Re: Dock II for sale Reply-To: blue@enteract.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is a Dock II? - Does it include a CD-ROM drive? How fast? - Does it include SCSI? - Does it include an expansion card bay? - Does it connect directly to the IBM 701, or do you need another piece of proprietary equipment to do so? > Richard Chalk has kindly informed me that used > Dock IIs can be had for around $400. I based my $600 asking price on PC > Connection's price for a refurbished Dock II. I asked what I thought was a > reasonable price and was mistaken. To those of you who felt it necessary to > mock me for my error, a hearty Bronx cheer. Thanks in advance... -- Gene http://www.enteract.com/~blue IP #: 206.54.253.122 IP name: blue.sa.enteract.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 2 13:39:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA071910345; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:39:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06698; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:35:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:26:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05956; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:26:11 -0500 Received: from primenet.com (root@mailhost01.primenet.com [206.165.5.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05935; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:26:06 -0500 Received: from primenet.primenet.com (ip212.boi.primenet.com [198.68.45.212]) by primenet.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA01486 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:25:47 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970102182553.0067d130@mailhost.primenet.com> X-Sender: cashen@mailhost.primenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 11:25:53 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Dean Cashen Subject: Win95 & Virtual Screens on TP760 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello: A while back I asked you folks here how to get the Virtual Screen function working under Win95, or, if anyone out there actually had Virtual Screens working on their TP760 under Win95. No one seemed to know the answer, and no one came forth to say "Yeah, mine works," so I bugged IBM some more about it. (To date, I've called their support 4 times, each time getting a different response. The last response, and the one I liked least, was that Win95 didn't "allow" virtual screens to work). Since I wasn't getting far using their phone support, I decided to try their support forum on Compuserve, and I posted a question to them there. They responded within a day. They told me that, indeed, the Virtual Screen function does NOT work under Win95. They're supported for OS/2 and Win 3.1, but (and this is my interpretation), IBM hasn't updated their screen drivers to include this functionality under Win95. Shame. So, for those out there who've been doing what I've been doing -- trying, configuring, reconfiguring, tweaking, sweating, and downloading any and all new drivers they can find in an effort to get Virtual Screens working under Win95. . . don't bother. "It don't work." IBM didn't say whether this was, indeed, "impossible" under Win95 (I don't believe it is), and they didn't say whether they were planning to make this work in future releases, so there's some hope that Virtual Screens will be functional in the future. At least, I hope so! And, as an aside, I also asked why some features of the ThinkPad Features program, such as enabling/disabling the modem, or enabling/ disabling the MIDI port no longer work in the latest release of the ThinkPad utilities. These functions are greyed out now. I was told that these features have been "migrated" to the device manager in Win95, and to enable/disable them you need to use devmgr now to do so (Check or un-Check the box for these devices under "Device Usage"). I haven't verified this works, however, but it explains why ThinkPad Features no longer lets you configure them. And, and editorial comment: I must say, I wish IBM would provide a little better documentation -- internal and external -- regarding issues such as these. I've spent countless hours trying to figure these things out, and my first three calls to IBM's tech support kept me me believing that they should work. (And, frankly, I still think they "should" work). IBM's margin on the TP760CD was fat enough, IMHO, for them to provide more cohesive support. Regards, Dean Cashen cashen@primenet.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 2 14:17:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA077982678; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:17:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10254; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:14:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:10:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09691; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:10:00 -0500 Received: from ripper.engin.umich.edu (strongtd@ripper.engin.umich.edu [141.213.8.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09684; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:09:56 -0500 Received: (from strongtd@localhost) by ripper.engin.umich.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id OAA02005; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:09:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:09:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Tim D. Strong" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Thu, 02 Jan 1997 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu A Dock two has one 1" bay, one half height bay 2 ISA card slots, 2 additional PCMCIA slots that will support a type IV card (even taller). and a SCSI interfact build in. The CDROM's come seperate. Though the seller may be selling his with one. They attach directly through the expansion ports of the 755, 750 series and I think all the ISA bus machines (that should include a 701). They wont work with the newer pentium machines that are PCI I believe. Under windows they support Hot docking so that you don't have to turn off the machine and all the internal devices will be recognized when the machine docks. I haven't gotten my 755C on a Dock II to support Hot docking under Windows 95 though. (Anyone manage to get theirs to work?) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 2 16:58:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA109882330; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:58:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23176; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:53:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:48:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22732; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:48:19 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22714; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:48:15 -0500 Received: from borg.mindspring.com (borg.mindspring.com [204.180.128.14]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA25058; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:48:08 -0500 Received: from pentium-133 (user-37kb68i.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.153.18]) by borg.mindspring.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA25998; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:47:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970102214811.0067f348@atl.mindspring.com> X-Sender: rchalk@atl.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 16:48:11 -0500 To: "Tim D. Strong" From: Richard Chalk Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Thu, 02 Jan 1997 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Actually, I have used a Dock II with a 760ED. The computer includes a PCI-ISA "Bridge" that supports ISA devices in the Dock II. Richard At 02:09 PM 1/2/97 -0500, you wrote: > > >A Dock two has one 1" bay, one half height bay 2 ISA card slots, 2 >additional PCMCIA slots that will support a type IV card (even taller). >and a SCSI interfact build in. > >The CDROM's come seperate. Though the seller may be selling his with one. > >They attach directly through the expansion ports of the 755, 750 series >and I think all the ISA bus machines (that should include a 701). They >wont work with the newer pentium machines that are PCI I believe. > >Under windows they support Hot docking so that you don't have to turn off >the machine and all the internal devices will be recognized when the >machine docks. I haven't gotten my 755C on a Dock II to support Hot >docking under Windows 95 though. (Anyone manage to get theirs to work?) > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 2 23:21:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA176035282; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:21:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA27293; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:21:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:13:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26635; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:13:17 -0500 Received: from crl.dec.com (crl.dec.com [192.58.206.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26628; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:13:11 -0500 Received: by crl.dec.com; id AA21285; Thu, 2 Jan 97 23:10:42 -0500 Received: by hgunix.hgo.dec.com; id AA00632; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:10:09 +0800 Received: by hgcs04.hgo.dec.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63)id <01BBF8B9.53650C30@hgcs04.hgo.dec.com>; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:29:13 +0800 Message-Id: From: David Liu To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: 33.6k MWAVE for 755CE Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:29:12 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi! I would like to know if IBM released the 33.6k MWAVE program for 755CE... if so, please tell me where can I download it. Thanks! David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 3 07:15:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA248033712; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:15:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02073; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:14:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:08:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01804; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:07:58 -0500 Received: from mh004.infi.net (mh004.infi.net [198.22.1.119]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01798; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:07:54 -0500 Received: from p133 by mh004.infi.net with SMTP (Infinet-S-3.3) id HAA19415; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:08:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970103070710.00689010@infi.net> X-Sender: jimb@infi.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 07:07:13 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jim Biggerstaff Subject: TP 701C Modem As Serial Port? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've recently purchased Delorme's Tripmate GPS receiver and Street Atlas 4.0 for use on my TP701C. Briefly, this receiver plugs into the serial port, receives data from the GPS satellite constellation and shows your position on a moving map on the display. It works quite well. To use the serial port, of course, I need to attach the port replicator, which makes things just slightly awkward. Is it possible to configure the internal modem to work "in reverse" as a serial port? If possible, this would require some sort "phone plug to 9 pin serial" adaptor. Or, as a good Plan B, are there PCMCIA serial cards available? Thanks for any info. Jim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 3 09:29:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA266401770; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:29:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10676; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:29:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:25:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10328; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:25:10 -0500 Received: from hoopla.mrl.nyu.edu (HOOPLA.MRL.NYU.EDU [128.122.47.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10315; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:25:06 -0500 Received: (from news@localhost) by hoopla.mrl.nyu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id JAA09461; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:55:40 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: news From: David Fox Newsgroups: thinkpad Subject: re-installing DOS on a thinkpad 755CE Date: 03 Jan 1997 09:55:38 -0500 Organization: NYU Media Research Lab. Lines: 64 Sender: fox@cat.nyu.edu Message-Id: Nntp-Posting-Host: hoopla.mrl.nyu.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've been running Linux on my 755CE for a long time, and my PCDOS installation disks can't be found. However, I found a tar file that seems to contain the image of my DOS partition before I wiped it out. So I installed it on /dev/hda1, took a lilo.conf from another machine I have that boots DOS off /dev/hda1 and tried to bot DOS. Unfortunately, I get a message saying that my disk is not bootable, and to insert a bootable floppy into the floppy drive. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Here's lilo.conf: boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b prompt timeout=50 vga=normal ramdisk=0 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.18 root=/dev/hda2 label=linux read-only other = /dev/hda1 label = dos table = /dev/hda Here's a list of the files in my DOS partition's root directory: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 502 Aug 25 1995 autoexec.bat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 506 Aug 25 1995 autoexec.mwd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 54654 Dec 31 1993 command.com -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 123 Aug 25 1995 config.mwd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 123 Aug 25 1995 config.sys drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 6144 Aug 24 1995 dos -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 40758 Dec 31 1993 ibmbio.com -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 37174 Dec 31 1993 ibmdos.com -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4696 Aug 24 1995 lodlin15.txt drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 2048 Aug 24 1995 mwd drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 2048 Aug 25 1995 mwd110-1 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 957493 Aug 25 1995 mwd110-1.exe drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 2048 Aug 25 1995 mwd110-2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 560185 Aug 25 1995 mwd110-2.exe -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3158379 Sep 7 1995 tr14.tgz -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 289796 Mar 31 1995 vmlinuz -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9349 Dec 31 1993 wina20.386 (It looks like I was trying to upgrade the MWAVE drivers when I took this snapshot.) I created the partition using mkfs.msdos, could that be the problem? Maybe I should boot DOS from a floppy and run DOS FDISK? Here's the output of the Linux fdisk "p" command: Disk /dev/hda: 32 heads, 63 sectors, 785 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2016 * 512 bytes Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 1 1 51 51376+ 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M /dev/hda2 641 641 785 146160 83 Linux native /dev/hda3 138 138 237 100800 82 Linux swap /dev/hda4 238 238 640 406224 5 Extended /dev/hda5 238 238 640 406192+ 83 Linux native I've also tried this with partition 1's bootable flag set, but the result is the same. (You can maybe tell I'm a DOS neophyte..) -- David Fox http://www.cat.nyu.edu/fox xoF divaD NYU Media Research Lab fox@cat.nyu.edu baL hcraeseR aideM UYN From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 3 09:44:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA268652644; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:44:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12002; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:44:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:40:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11554; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:40:09 -0500 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11544; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:40:04 -0500 Received: from belial-35.d.enteract.com (belial-35.d.enteract.com [207.112.154.44]) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA08451; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:39:37 -0600 (CST) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: Jim Biggerstaff , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701C Modem As Serial Port? Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 14:42:00 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32ce19b2.158787737@smtp.enteract.com> References: <3.0.32.19970103070710.00689010@infi.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970103070710.00689010@infi.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Plan B seems the most trouble-free solution, and yes, there are pc cards to replicate just about every port there is. Socket makes a lot of them, and most are sold by Essex Portables Solutions. They're at = www.goessex.com and 1-800-go-essex. The high-speed serial adapter is listed at $159, = there are also cards allowing 2 and 4 serial ports through a single card. HTH, epbrown On Fri, 03 Jan 1997 07:07:13 -0500, you wrote: "I've recently purchased Delorme's Tripmate GPS receiver and Street Atlas "4.0 for use on my TP701C. Briefly, this receiver plugs into the serial "port, receives data from the GPS satellite constellation and shows your "position on a moving map on the display. It works quite well. " "To use the serial port, of course, I need to attach the port replicator, "which makes things just slightly awkward. " "Is it possible to configure the internal modem to work "in reverse" as a "serial port? If possible, this would require some sort "phone plug to 9 "pin serial" adaptor. " "Or, as a good Plan B, are there PCMCIA serial cards available? " "Thanks for any info. " "Jim " " epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 3 09:59:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA271303558; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:59:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13388; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:59:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:55:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13082; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:55:16 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13007; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:55:03 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-5 #9830) id <01IDROMI1FQ8BRBAIS@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:53:22 MST Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 07:48:30 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: 33.6k MWAVE for 755CE In-Reply-To: "Message dated Thu, 02 Jan 1997 14:29:12 +0800" Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IDROWGDDKABRBAIS@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Hi! I would like to know if IBM released the 33.6k MWAVE program for > 755CE... if so, please tell me where can I download it. Not yet but if you look back in this list a few weeks ago you'll find details on swiping this code from another MWave release and using it on your Thinkpad. I haven't done this myself yet as ringing the terminal bell when the modem is running at 28.8 is a bit slow for me now (running cisco's network package) so I'm waiting for the more optimized version of the MWave software with the hope it won't add to the about three second hole this currently puts in my telnet sessions... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 3 12:55:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA299124102; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:55:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27274; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:54:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:48:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26781; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:48:30 -0500 Received: from lotus.lotus.com (lotus.com [192.233.136.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26771; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:48:20 -0500 From: Received: from internet1.lotus.com by lotus.lotus.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA23223; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:44:25 -0500 Received: from mta2.lotus.com by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA14521; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:40:32 -0500 Received: by mta2.lotus.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (274.9 11-27-1996)) id 85256414.0061C17D ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:47:45 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LOTUS@MTA To: davidliu@hgcs04.hgo.dec.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <85256414.005ECE3C.00@mta2.lotus.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:48:08 -0400 Subject: Re: 33.6k MWAVE for 755CE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu MWave is that same for all ThinkPads that support it. Start at http://www.pcco.ibm.com/ and follow the ThinkPad links .... davidliu@hgcs04.hgo.dec.com on 01/02/97 01:29:12 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: (bcc: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Subject: 33.6k MWAVE for 755CE Hi! I would like to know if IBM released the 33.6k MWAVE program for 755CE... if so, please tell me where can I download it. Thanks! David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 3 13:39:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA007846793; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:39:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29736; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:29:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:25:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29337; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:24:58 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29327; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:24:51 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-42.usc.edu [128.125.223.186]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id KAA26840; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:24:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970103102244.0068de00@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 10:25:20 -0800 To: Dean Cashen From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Win95 & Virtual Screens on TP760 Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:25 AM 1/2/97 -0700, Dean Cashen wrote: >A while back I asked you folks here how to get the Virtual Screen >function working under Win95, or, if anyone out there actually had >Virtual Screens working on their TP760 under Win95. No one seemed >to know the answer, and no one came forth to say "Yeah, mine works," >so I bugged IBM some more about it. (To date, I've called their >support 4 times, each time getting a different response. The last >response, and the one I liked least, was that Win95 didn't "allow" >virtual screens to work). If they mean something in particular, that might well be true, but if they mean virtual screens in general, they're completely full of crap. I have a desktop machine where virtual screens work splendidly in Win 95. But that's likely because Matrox seems to take driver debugging and updating quite seriously. >They told me that, indeed, the Virtual Screen function does NOT work >under Win95. They're supported for OS/2 and Win 3.1, but (and this >is my interpretation), IBM hasn't updated their screen drivers to >include this functionality under Win95. Shame. So, for those out >there who've been doing what I've been doing -- trying, configuring, >reconfiguring, tweaking, sweating, and downloading any and all new >drivers they can find in an effort to get Virtual Screens working >under Win95. . . don't bother. "It don't work." IBM didn't say whether >this was, indeed, "impossible" under Win95 (I don't believe it is), >and they didn't say whether they were planning to make this work >in future releases, so there's some hope that Virtual Screens will >be functional in the future. At least, I hope so! Sounds like its just not a priority for them. Then again, I've learned that lots of things I would consider a priority just aren't in their view. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 3 16:03:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA035405381; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:03:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10978; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:58:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:49:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10053; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:49:13 -0500 Received: from aruba.lerc.nasa.gov (aruba.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.35.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10035; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:48:52 -0500 Received: from gfedor.lerc.nasa.gov by aruba.lerc.nasa.gov with SMTP (NASA LeRC 8.7.4.1/2.01-main) id PAA19316; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:48:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970103204845.006badf4@sven> X-Sender: gfedor@sven X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 15:48:45 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Gregory Fedor Subject: New member intro Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, As a new member of this mailing list I guess I should introduce myself. My name is Gregory Fedor. I am a computer engineer and have recently bought a used ThinkPad 750C. It has 20 MB RAM and a 1.2 GB drive. I also received the port replicator II. I'm currently running Win95 on it and am mostly using it for school work (I'm going back for my MS), although it's been pressed into work work lately simply for convienience. I use it as a suppliment to my work desktop PC (currently a 486/33, soon to be upgraded to a P166 perhaps) and my home desktop PC (a P100). At first I thought I'd be disappointed with the slower processor, but for basic word processing, spreadsheet stuff, and simple programming it's turning out to be quite versatile. At present it has no modem and I've been tempted to pickup a PC card modem, but then I think I'd be surfing the net more than I should, so I'm fighting the tempation. I would like to get a second power supply so I can use it with the port replicator at work which would also give me a direct connect to my desktop PC. It came in very good shape except for a broken lid latch on the left side. I'm tempted to get it fixed, but I'm afraid 1) I don't know where to take it or where to get the part, and 2) I'm not sure it's worth it. One question I have for the group is this. I've heard things mentioned about how the floppy drive on some ThinkPads is a 2.88 MB one. How can I tell if mine is, and if so is it worth using that way and how? Thanks Gregory -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory A. Fedor ADF Inc./NASA Lewis Research Center/Micro-g Experiments Computer Engineer 216-977-1247 work: gfedor@lerc.nasa.gov http://sven.lerc.nasa.gov/~gfedor personal: gfedor@en.com http://www.en.com/users/gfedor -w------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 3 19:01:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA069516112; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:01:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24215; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:00:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:55:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23925; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:55:37 -0500 Received: from mailgate.global.ibmmail.com (mailgate.global.ibmmail.com [204.146.55.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23914; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:55:30 -0500 From: Received: from f01n09t0.nccsch.advantis.com by mailgate.global.ibmmail.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/MSCP_1.00) id AA08978; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:35:05 -0500 Received: by f01n09t0.nccsch.advantis.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/MSCP_1.00) id AA64611; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:40:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 21:36:18 UT Subject: ThinkPad Backlog To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: Priority: NORMAL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, My name is Larry Flynt and I'm the Director of MIS for The Rosewood Corporation in Dallas, TX. We have about 20 TP755 and 5 TP760. We need to buy several more 760E's and 760ED's and at least one 560, but I can't find any in stock. I'd welcome any tips on how to locate a few. I'd also appreciate any information about what's causing the shortage so that I can give my impatient executives a reason to keep waiting. Thanks, Larry ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: New member intro Author: gfedor@lerc.nasa.gov at internet Date: 1/3/97 3:48 PM Hello, As a new member of this mailing list I guess I should introduce myself. My name is Gregory Fedor. I am a computer engineer and have recently bought a used ThinkPad 750C. It has 20 MB RAM and a 1.2 GB drive. I also received the port replicator II. I'm currently running Win95 on it and am mostly using it for school work (I'm going back for my MS), although it's been pressed into work work lately simply for convienience. I use it as a suppliment to my work desktop PC (currently a 486/33, soon to be upgraded to a P166 perhaps) and my home desktop PC (a P100). At first I thought I'd be disappointed with the slower processor, but for basic word processing, spreadsheet stuff, and simple programming it's turning out to be quite versatile. At present it has no modem and I've been tempted to pickup a PC card modem, but then I think I'd be surfing the net more than I should, so I'm fighting the tempation. I would like to get a second power supply so I can use it with the port replicator at work which would also give me a direct connect to my desktop PC. It came in very good shape except for a broken lid latch on the left side. I'm tempted to get it fixed, but I'm afraid 1) I don't know where to take it or where to get the part, and 2) I'm not sure it's worth it. One question I have for the group is this. I've heard things mentioned about how the floppy drive on some ThinkPads is a 2.88 MB one. How can I tell if mine is, and if so is it worth using that way and how? Thanks Gregory -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory A. Fedor ADF Inc./NASA Lewis Research Center/Micro-g Experiments Computer Engineer 216-977-1247 work: gfedor@lerc.nasa.gov http://sven.lerc.nasa.gov/~gfedor personal: gfedor@en.com http://www.en.com/users/gfedor -w------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 3 19:18:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA071747125; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:18:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25371; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:17:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:13:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25083; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:13:33 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25069; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:13:29 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-h-45.usc.edu [128.125.224.45]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id QAA13561; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:13:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970103160416.006cfc64@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 16:13:39 -0800 To: Gregory Fedor From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: New member intro Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 03:48 PM 1/3/97 -0500, Gregory Fedor wrote: >Hello, > > As a new member of this mailing list I guess I should introduce myself. >My name is Gregory Fedor. I am a computer engineer and have recently bought >a used ThinkPad 750C. It has 20 MB RAM and a 1.2 GB drive. I also received > It came in very good shape except for a broken lid latch on the left >side. I'm tempted to get it fixed, but I'm afraid 1) I don't know where to >take it or where to get the part, and 2) I'm not sure it's worth it. I doubt its worth it, unless you know someone who can do it cheaply. > One question I have for the group is this. I've heard things mentioned >about how the floppy drive on some ThinkPads is a 2.88 MB one. How can I >tell if mine is, and if so is it worth using that way and how? The 750C shipped with a 2.88 drive--unless yours got swapped out, that's what it should have. I think it says "2.88" right on the front door where you insert the disk! ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 3 19:56:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA076719376; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:56:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27251; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:54:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:51:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27033; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:51:04 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu ([152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27027; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:51:01 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA00756; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:47:30 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199701040047.TAA00756@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: New member intro In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970103160416.006cfc64@scf.usc.edu> from Randy Whittle at "Jan 3, 97 04:13:39 pm" To: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:47:30 -0500 (EST) Cc: gfedor@lerc.nasa.gov, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > It came in very good shape except for a broken lid latch on the left > >side. I'm tempted to get it fixed, but I'm afraid 1) I don't know where to > >take it or where to get the part, and 2) I'm not sure it's worth it. > > I doubt its worth it, unless you know someone who can do it cheaply. Look for a label with the manufacture date inside the 750C (lift the cover and look around). Your 3 year factory warranty might still be valid, in which case you can call EasyServ and get it repaired for free. This information might also be available directly from IBM, since they probably have a database cataloged by serial number. If it is out of warranty, the repair will probably be costly and not worth the expense. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 6 14:13:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA064928016; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:13:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10833; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:10:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:58:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09809; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:58:56 -0500 Received: from doblegate.doble.com (doblegate.doble.com [204.215.186.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09802; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:58:52 -0500 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 2d14aee0; Mon, 6 Jan 97 13:56:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:57:27 -0500 Message-Id: <2d14aee0@doblegate.doble.com> Subject: Re: TP 701C Modem As Serial Port? To: Jim Biggerstaff Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I have a Tripmate as well (I wrote the Tripmate FAQ on Peter Bennett's GPS web site). You have to go to plan B. Socket Communications and a few others make serial port PCMCIA cards. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com -or- eac@shore.net My views are not metal nor glass thus do not reflect the views of my employer. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 6 14:54:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA074460470; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:54:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14662; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:49:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:44:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14180; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:44:12 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14165; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:44:07 -0500 Received: from tibia.uplanet.com (host-166-182.uplanet.com [204.163.166.182]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA17601 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:43:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from tibia.uplanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tibia.uplanet.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA23593 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:43:26 -0800 Message-Id: <199701061943.LAA23593@tibia.uplanet.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: Jesse Montrose Subject: 560 availability Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 11:43:26 -0800 From: "Jesse V. Montrose" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Man, these things are hard to find.. I've been trying to track one down for over a month now. Anyone have a favorite vendor other than the usual suspects that might have any? I've tried all the big mailorder houses. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 6 18:49:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA126544545; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:49:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05852; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:47:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:42:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05431; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:42:06 -0500 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05421; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:42:01 -0500 Received: from luzern_ppp35.tic.ch (luzern_ppp35.tic.ch [193.193.148.37]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA12136; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 00:45:06 +0100 (MET) Received: by luzern_ppp35.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BBFBF8.FE0014E0@luzern_ppp35.tic.ch>; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:42:31 +-100 Message-Id: <01BBFBF8.FE0014E0@luzern_ppp35.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'Randy Whittle'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Win95 & Virtual Screens on TP760 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 18:48:01 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, On the assumption that by 'Virtual screen' you mean something with say 1024 x 768 pixels to be displayed on a screen of say 640 x 480 pixels, with the virtual screen 'extending' beyond the sides of the real screen by scrolling when you hit a side... In which case it works on my ThinkPad 701CS - I think this is something handled by the video chip, with Windows 95 being blissfully unaware of what's really going on. I discovered this by accident when my 'Screen resolution' got changed to a higher value than the screen has pixels. When I go into the 'Display, Settings' section of Control panel, under 'Change Display Type', Adapter Type: Chips & Technologies, Accelerator (new) Monitor Type: (Unknown Monitor) and for 'Desktop Area' and 'Color Palette' choose your number of pixels and colours. cheers, Andrew From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 7 02:40:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA204352799; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 02:39:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06053; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 02:39:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 7 Jan 1997 02:35:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05504; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 02:35:25 -0500 Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk (mail-e.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05492; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 02:35:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199701070735.CAA05492@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-1.ucl.ac.uk by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:35:16 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Linux on TP750Cs Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:35:18 +0000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I installed Linux (from Volkering's Walnut Creek CDROM: Linux Slackware 96 CD-ROM -- Kernel Version 2.0.0) on my TP750Cs. It seems to work just fine -- with a few minor quirks. (1) Could someone send me their current XF86Config for use with the internal display, an 800x600 external monitor, and a 1024x768 external monitor? (2) Could someone suggest how to configure Linux using the SYSV rc.d scripts so that the ethernet startup software does not hang the boot process when no ethernet cable is attached? It would be even better if someone could suggest a configuration which would allow alternate use (1) without any network attached, (2) while connected to campus ethernet, and (3) while attached via dialup IP (SLIP prefered -- PPP as an alterative) from home to campus. (3) Finally, I'd like to know what needs to be done to get suspend and hibernate to work while in Linux. The BIOS functions do not seem to work when I press suspend and hibernate keys while in Linux. Thanks, Aexander From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 7 07:12:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA240279135; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:12:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00516; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:11:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:07:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00272; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:07:18 -0500 Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk (mail-e.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00264; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:07:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199701071207.HAA00264@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-3.ucl.ac.uk by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:06:57 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Linux on TP750Cs Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:07:02 +0000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I installed Linux (from Volkering's Walnut Creek CDROM: Linux Slackware 96 CD-ROM -- Kernel Version 2.0.0) on my TP750Cs. It seems to work just fine -- with a few minor quirks. (1) Could someone send me their current XF86Config for use with the internal display, an 800x600 external monitor, and a 1024x768 external monitor? (2) Could someone suggest how to configure Linux using the SYSV rc.d scripts so that the ethernet startup software does not hang the boot process when no ethernet cable is attached? It would be even better if someone could suggest a configuration which would allow alternate use (1) without any network attached, (2) while connected to campus ethernet, and (3) while attached via dialup IP (SLIP prefered -- PPP as an alterative) from home to campus. (3) Finally, I'd like to know what needs to be done to get suspend and hibernate to work while in Linux. The BIOS functions do not seem to work when I press suspend and hibernate keys while in Linux. Thanks, Aexander From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 7 12:48:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA298519311; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:48:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24718; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:38:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:31:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24161; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:31:04 -0500 Received: from chelsea.ios.com (root@chelsea.ios.com [198.4.75.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24140; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:30:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (ingerman@localhost) by chelsea.ios.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA21177 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:30:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:30:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark M. Ingerman" X-Sender: ingerman@chelsea.ios.com To: Thinkpad Forum Subject: Merlin Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anybody had and experience/luck installing Merlin on the older notebooks ( in my case 755cx )? If so, how is the plug and play, and other notebook features in Merlin? Mark M. Ingerman Creative Software Solutions, Inc. ingerman@cs2.com (508) 394-4266 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 7 12:52:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA299659565; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:52:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25204; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:44:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:38:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24704; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:38:45 -0500 Received: from hoopla.mrl.nyu.edu (HOOPLA.MRL.NYU.EDU [128.122.47.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24697; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:38:42 -0500 Received: (from news@localhost) by hoopla.mrl.nyu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id NAA13709; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:12:15 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: news From: David Fox Newsgroups: thinkpad Subject: Re: 560 availability Date: 07 Jan 1997 13:12:14 -0500 Organization: NYU Media Research Lab. Lines: 16 Sender: fox@cat.nyu.edu Message-Id: References: <199701061943.LAA23593@tibia.uplanet.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: hoopla.mrl.nyu.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "Jesse V. Montrose" writes: > Man, these things are hard to find.. I've been trying to track one down for > over a month now. > > Anyone have a favorite vendor other than the usual suspects that might have > any? I've tried all the big mailorder houses. There's a place in Manhattan called Exel that has advertised that it has 560s in stock in every Tuesday New York Times Science section for months. However, they are in my "danger zone" - Manhattan between 23rd and 34th streets. If someone is in the neighborhood I'd love to hear what happens if you walk in and ask for one. -- David Fox http://www.cat.nyu.edu/fox xoF divaD NYU Media Research Lab fox@cat.nyu.edu baL hcraeseR aideM UYN From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 7 13:01:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA001900092; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:01:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26383; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:59:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:53:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25933; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:53:47 -0500 Received: from pop.leopard.com ([206.83.112.124]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25918; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:53:40 -0500 Received: from obi-wan ([206.83.112.67]) by pop.leopard.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA10016 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:10:38 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970107105354.0091ca40@pop.leopard.com> X-Sender: wdunn@pop.leopard.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 10:53:54 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Will Dunn Subject: Re: Merlin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 12:30 PM 1/7/97 -0500, you wrote: >Has anybody had and experience/luck installing Merlin on the older >notebooks ( in my case 755cx )? If so, how is the plug and play, and >other notebook features in Merlin? First time I played with Merlin was on a 755CX--only complications was that it was much happier running with 40MB RAM versus 24MB--of course, who woulnd't be. --wwd Will Dunn Leopard Communications Boulder, CO http://www.leopard.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 7 14:20:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA016934849; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:20:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01946; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:14:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:07:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01253; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:07:24 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu ([152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01225; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:07:15 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA14681; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:02:23 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199701071902.OAA14681@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: Linux on TP750Cs In-Reply-To: <199701070735.CAA05492@CS.UTK.EDU> from "Alexander J. Annala" at "Jan 7, 97 07:35:18 am" To: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk (Alexander J. Annala) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:02:22 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > (1) Could someone send me their current XF86Config for use with > the internal display, an 800x600 external monitor, and a 1024x768 > external monitor? I don't have one for the 750CS (dual scan) model. You should visit the Thinkpad FAQ homepage, which gives detailed instructions on how to get XF86 working on a 750CS, though outdated. > (2) Could someone suggest how to configure Linux using the SYSV > rc.d scripts so that the ethernet startup software does not hang > the boot process when no ethernet cable is attached? It would be > even better if someone could suggest a configuration which would > allow alternate use (1) without any network attached, (2) while > connected to campus ethernet, and (3) while attached via dialup > IP (SLIP prefered -- PPP as an alterative) from home to campus. Slackware 3.x already uses rc.d scripts. They are located in /etc/rc.d/... I would recommend using netconfig to setup your TP to use loopback by default. You should be able to write two simple scripts which use ifconfig to access your campus network. Also, the PPP (or SLIP) package from Slackware contains the necessary scripts to dialup and configure a serial connection. I know of someone who ingeniously modified the kernel module loader/ unloader scripts to automatically run ifconfig/etc when an ethernet card was inserted or removed. This isn't very flexible but certainly very convenient if your point of connection will always be the same. > (3) Finally, I'd like to know what needs to be done to get suspend > and hibernate to work while in Linux. The BIOS functions do not > seem to work when I press suspend and hibernate keys while in Linux. Suspend using Fn-F4 combo only seems to work part of the time under Linux. Your best bet is to get the APMD package. I use it to suspend my 750C directly from the kernel. It works very well, and the PCMCIA cards resume after suspend smoothly. I have not tried to get hibernation to work under Linux due to lack of need, but it shouldn't be too hard. Regards, Dave. > > Thanks, Aexander > -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 7 14:46:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA021756381; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:46:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05370; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:43:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:39:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04910; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:39:31 -0500 Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu (martigny.ai.mit.edu [18.43.0.152]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04903; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:39:27 -0500 Received: from aarau.ai.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA020475960; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:39:20 -0500 Received: by aarau.ai.mit.edu id m0vhhMp-00002mC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:39:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:39:23 -0500 (EST) From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: ingerman@chelsea.ios.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: (ingerman@chelsea.ios.com) Subject: Merlin X-Mailer: Edwin [version 3.91, MIT Scheme Release 7.5a] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:30:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark M. Ingerman" Has anybody had and experience/luck installing Merlin on the older notebooks ( in my case 755cx )? If so, how is the plug and play, and other notebook features in Merlin? I've installed Merlin on a TP755c; it went relatively smoothly. The system works fine. I'm not in the habit of hot-swapping PCMCIA cards, so I can't say how well that works. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 7 16:24:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA040212255; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:24:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13766; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:18:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:11:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13174; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:11:27 -0500 Received: from asylum.apocalypse.org (root@asylum.sf.ca.us [192.48.232.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13149; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:11:13 -0500 Received: from belvedere.Catch22.COM (belvedere.Catch22.COM [204.182.15.40]) by asylum.apocalypse.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA19502 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:10:53 -0500 From: lang@apocalypse.org (Lang Zerner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Dock II for sale Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 21:11:18 GMT Organization: ITC Consulting Group Reply-To: lang@apocalypse.org Message-Id: <32d8bb8b.1000615210@192.48.232.17> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Since only two parties have expressed interest in the Dock II I offered = for sale, I'm going to close the sale January 15 rather than give others a = chance to make the best offer. --Lang From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 7 16:39:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA043453165; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:39:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15526; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:36:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:30:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14816; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:29:59 -0500 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14809; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:29:55 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id QAA03434 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:25:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA8459; Tue, 07 Jan 97 16:25:59 -0800 Message-Id: <9701080025.AA8459@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id E259F62FFCEADBC88525641800741B13; Tue, 7 Jan 97 16:25:58 EDT To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 7 Jan 97 16:10:16 EDT Subject: Re: Dock II for sale X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "...Since only two parties have expressed interest in the Dock II I offered for sale, I'm going to close the sale January 15 rather than give others a chance to make the best offer...." ~~~~~ once that's sold, if there's any interest in another one, i have one for sale. it's an unused dock ii with the 4x internal cd rom installed. i don't know anything about converters for the 701, but it's compatable with all the enhanced 75x models. make me an offer. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ ------------------------------- Although I can accept talking scarecrows, lions and great wizards of emerald cities, I find it hard to believe there is no paperwork involved when your house lands on a witch. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 8 18:42:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA298036947; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:42:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14061; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:40:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:31:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13287; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:31:04 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13281; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:31:01 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA20901; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 16:35:10 -0700 Message-Id: <32D40098.3207@wwsi.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 13:16:24 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Alexander J. Annala" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux on TP750Cs X-Priority: Normal References: <199701070735.CAA05492@CS.UTK.EDU> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Check the Linux on Thinkpads resource pages off our home page: http://www.wwsi.com/ -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Electronic Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 8 18:43:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA298116999; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:43:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14059; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:40:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:31:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13305; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:31:09 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13292; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:31:05 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA20904; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 16:35:15 -0700 Message-Id: <32D400D2.9CF@wwsi.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 13:17:22 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Alexander J. Annala" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux on TP750Cs X-Priority: Normal References: <199701070735.CAA05492@CS.UTK.EDU> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You need (at least) the apm modules loaded to get suspend/resume to work. You probably also have to use PS2 on a DOS diskette to update the BIOS (I don't know this, tho, since I haven't been able to try Linux on my new Thinkpad, yet). -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Electronic Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 8 18:57:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA001717871; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:57:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15426; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:56:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:51:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15070; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:51:47 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15063; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:51:41 -0500 Received: from ankle (host-166-182.uplanet.com [204.163.166.182]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07543 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:52:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970108154215.0075b250@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: mind@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 15:50:40 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jesse Montrose Subject: 560 discontinued? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've heard this twice now, has anyone else heard that? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 8 19:45:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA009280703; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:45:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19228; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:44:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:39:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18893; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:39:38 -0500 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18887; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:39:35 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu (yu1.yu.edu [129.98.200.100]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA21626 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:39:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA30070; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:39:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:39:37 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Preview of TP 760X Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Preview: IBM ThinkPad 760X Series Announced on January 8, 1997 HARDWARE Announcement 197-002 At a Glance The ThinkPad 760X series offers: o Leading edge 166MHz Pentium processor with MMX in a compact system for those who need the highest level of processing power in a mobile form factor. o High-resolution (1024 x 768), 12.1-inch TFT display (measured diagonally) with a 800 x 600 resolution display also available. o Storage capacity of up to 3.0GB standard on the HDD. o Standard system memory may be expanded to 104MB using ThinkPad Proven optional memory. o High-speed 8X CD-ROM provides increased function. o Internal media processor providing high-speed modem communications, telephony, and audio support (some models). o Docking capability with your choice of IBM docking solutions. o Industry leading service and support. Overview Upcoming additions to the new ThinkPad 760 series will feature the high-performance 166MHz(1) Pentium (R) processor with MMX (TM) technology, brilliant 12.1-inch (measured diagonally) TFT displays, hard disk drive (HDD) capacities up to 3.0GB(2), and a standard or optional 8X CD-ROM. With these enhancements to the internationally acclaimed ThinkPad 760 series, IBM continues its leadership in processor power and overall system performance. Now with the power to run today's and tomorrow's next generation of advanced multimedia and communications applications, the ThinkPad 760 continues to deliver the ultimate blend of mobile power, performance, connectivity, and configuration flexibility. Key Product Attributes o Outstanding performance with advanced system architecture o Brilliant 12.1-inch TFT display with up to 1024 X 768 resolution o Up to 3.0GB capacity HDD o High-speed 8X CD-ROM drive (standard or optional) o Internal media processor support for high-speed communications (some models) o Operating system support for Windows 3.11, Windows 95, Windows NT Workstation, OS/2 Warp, and DOS o Compatible with a variety of IBM docking solutions including SelectaDock, Dock I, and Dock II Key Customer Benefits The ThinkPad 760X series provides power, performance, connectivity, and configuration flexibility including: o The ability to run today's and tomorrow's most demanding applications using the Pentium processor with MMX and advanced mobile system architecture. o Configuration flexibility via IBM Ultrabay, memory expansion up to 104MB, and a variety of desktop docking solutions. o A heritage of investment protection and product stability through managed transitions. New Options o High-speed 8X CD-ROM drive option will be available for 760 series products(3) for high-speed software installation, database search, and advanced multimedia applications. o Up to 104MB(4) of system memory is available through vendors participating in IBM's ThinkPad Proven program. Users can expand the total system memory to 104MB to meet the demands of the most sophisticated applications, operating systems, and operating environments. Availability o The ThinkPad 760X series using the Pentium processor with MMX will be available in second quarter 1997. o 8X CD-ROM and 3.0GB HDD options will be available by the end of second quarter 1997. o ThinkPad Proven memory upgrade options are available now. Previews provide insight into IBM plans and directions. General availability, prices, ordering information, and terms and conditions will be provided when the product is announced. Intended Customers Features and performance sensitive mobile users who appreciate highly versatile designs and full desktop docking capability. Key Prerequisites None. ThinkPad systems come ready-to-use. (1) MHz denotes internal clock speed of the microprocessor only; other factors also affect application performance. (2) GB = 1000 million bytes and MB = one million bytes when referring to hard disk. (3) Available for those models of the ThinkPad 760 series that accept a CD-ROM drive. (4) Available for all 760E/ED, 760EL, and 760X series models. ------------------------------ This announcement is provided for your information only. For additional information, contact your IBM representative or call 800-IBM-4YOU. DESCRIPTION Processor: The ThinkPad 760X series comes with a 166MHz Pentium processor with MMX. LCD Display: The ThinkPad 760X series comes with up to a 12.1-inch (measured diagonally) TFT LCD with 1024 x 768 resolution. The TFT display provides superior viewing capability and helps lessen the glare indoors. The 12.1-inch 1024 x 768 resolution screen provides over 60% more information when compared to 12.1-inch displays with 800 x 600 resolution. Storage: Customer removable/installable HDDs of up to 3.0GB are available. The customer-removable HDD is accessible by lifting up the keyboard. Multiple user's with their own hard drive may share one system. A 1.44MB floppy diskette drive (FDD) comes standard. Memory: System memory can be expanded up to 104MB with ThinkPad Proven vendor optional memory expansion. This provides extensive memory expansion for the most sophisticated and advanced operating systems and applications. Media Processor: Provides high-speed modem communications, telephony, and audio support (available on some models). ThinkPad Ultrabay: The ThinkPad Ultrabay is an intelligent bay for FDD, second HDD, second battery, CD-ROM, or wireless communication devices. The combination of the new 8X CD-ROM, extensive memory upgradeability, ThinkPad Ultrabay flexibility, and a wide variety of desktop docking solutions, makes the ThinkPad the leader in versatility and expandability. PCMCIA: The Type III slot can accommodate either two Type I, two Type II, or one Type III PCMCIA cards. Infrared (IR): The system has IR transceivers in front and back for convenient wireless file and data transfer and printing. Docking Support: As with all 760 ThinkPad notebooks, the new 760X series is compatible with the SelectaDock II, modular and upgradeable desktop solutions, as well as the original Dock I, Dock II, and port replicator options. Trademarks IBM, ThinkPad, and OS/2 are registered trademarks of International Business Machines Corporation in the United States or other countries or both. ThinkPad Proven and Ultrabay are trademarks of International Business Machines Corporation in the United States or other countries or both. Microsoft and Windows are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corporation. Pentium and MMX are trademarks or registered trademarks of Intel Corporation. Other trademarks and registered trademarks are the properties of their respective owners. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 9 00:00:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA051676021; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:00:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06247; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:59:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:53:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05746; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:53:05 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05740; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:53:03 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95m.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95m.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.182]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA05496; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:52:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199701090452.XAA05496@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Jesse Montrose" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 08 Jan 97 23:52:54 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 560 discontinued? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Only some models, mostly the lower end ones & ones with OS/2 & no operating system. On Wed, 08 Jan 1997 15:50:40 -0800, Jesse Montrose wrote: >I've heard this twice now, has anyone else heard that? > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 9 00:05:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA052096313; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:05:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06806; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:03:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:59:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06283; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:59:47 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06277; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:59:45 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95m.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95m.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.182]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA31342; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:59:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199701090459.XAA31342@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Alexander J. Annala" , "Steve Hultquist" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 08 Jan 97 23:59:39 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Linux on TP750Cs Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The BIOS is upgraded by a seperate disk sytps*.exe. The ps2 commands alow you to configure the system & power mgt through s/w. On Wed, 08 Jan 1997 13:17:22 -0700, Steve Hultquist wrote: >You need (at least) the apm modules loaded to get suspend/resume to >work. You probably also have to use PS2 on a DOS diskette to update the >BIOS (I don't know this, tho, since I haven't been able to try Linux on >my new Thinkpad, yet). >-- >Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. >Electronic Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado >mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 9 00:11:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA053276710; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:11:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07481; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:10:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:06:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07041; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:06:25 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07034; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:06:21 -0500 Received: from ankle (host-166-182.uplanet.com [204.163.166.182]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA16346 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 21:06:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970108205657.0072fc44@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: mind@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 21:05:10 -0800 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" From: Jesse Montrose Subject: Re: 560 discontinued? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:52 PM 1/8/97, Jeffrey S. Schwartz wrote: >Only some models, mostly the lower end ones & ones with OS/2 & no >operating system. Ahh, that makes sense. Is this documented anywhere? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 9 00:27:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA056657660; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:27:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09317; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:26:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:22:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08819; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:22:42 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08812; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:22:39 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA22183; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:26:56 -0700 Message-Id: <32D48049.6F7@wwsi.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 22:21:13 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Cc: "Alexander J. Annala" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Linux on TP750Cs X-Priority: Normal References: <199701090459.XAA31342@mule1.mindspring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Jeffrey S. Schwartz wrote: > The BIOS is upgraded by a seperate disk sytps*.exe. The ps2 commands > alow you to configure the system & power mgt through s/w. > > On Wed, 08 Jan 1997 13:17:22 -0700, Steve Hultquist wrote: > >You need (at least) the apm modules loaded to get suspend/resume to > >work. You probably also have to use PS2 on a DOS diskette to update the > >BIOS (I don't know this, tho, since I haven't been able to try Linux on > >my new Thinkpad, yet). OK. BIOS may be a bit of an oversimplification. What I mean is that PS/2 configures the non-volatile power management information. You don't have a PS2 equivalent on Linux, so you have to rely on the DOS version. However, the settings are persistent even when you change OS. Does that make it clearer? ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Electronic Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 9 01:08:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA062920094; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:08:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11474; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:07:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:02:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11165; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:02:55 -0500 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11155; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:02:51 -0500 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA24528; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:04:36 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:04:35 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Parker Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: 560 availability? In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970108205657.0072fc44@mailhost.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm looking for a Thinkpad 560 120MHz. Does anyone know where I can find one? NWCD says they have had them on order for 3 months now. Computability said they'd call me back tomorrow. I really would have loved a 100MHz version with the nice 12.1" TFT display for slightly less, but I'll take the cheapest one I can get with the "Good" display. =) I'm moving in less than two months and would really like to get one before then. Credit card companies seem to have a thing for making sure shipping and billing addresses match up, and they will be out of sync for a month or so after I move. =( Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 9 01:29:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA066381379; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:29:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12458; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:28:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:25:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12238; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:24:59 -0500 Received: from crl.dec.com (crl.dec.com [192.58.206.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12232; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:24:50 -0500 Received: by crl.dec.com; id AA28301; Thu, 9 Jan 97 01:22:05 -0500 Received: by hgunix.hgo.dec.com; id AA08483; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:21:45 +0800 Received: by hgcs04.hgo.dec.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63)id <01BBFE38.A59E2890@hgcs04.hgo.dec.com>; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:23:13 +0800 Message-Id: From: David Liu To: "'Jeffrey S. Schwartz'" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: 560 discontinued? Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:23:10 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Do you mean those model with P100 CPU ? >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeffrey S. Schwartz [SMTP:jeffsnc@mindspring.com] >Sent: Thursday, January 09, 1997 7:53 AM >To: Jesse Montrose; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Re: 560 discontinued? > >Only some models, mostly the lower end ones & ones with OS/2 & no >operating system. > >On Wed, 08 Jan 1997 15:50:40 -0800, Jesse Montrose wrote: > >>I've heard this twice now, has anyone else heard that? >> > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 9 12:19:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA166750397; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:19:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20527; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:14:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:08:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19884; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:08:25 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19844; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:08:14 -0500 Received: from ankle (host-166-182.uplanet.com [204.163.166.182]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23840 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:08:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970109090514.00727270@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: mind@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 09:07:12 -0800 To: From: Jesse Montrose Subject: RE: 560 discontinued? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 02:23 PM 1/9/97 +0800, David Liu wrote: >Do you mean those model with P100 CPU ? > >>Only some models, mostly the lower end ones & ones with OS/2 & no >>operating system. I've been told the 120's have been discontinued as well. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 9 12:37:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA170071461; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:37:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22683; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:31:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:27:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22183; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:27:17 -0500 Received: from sparky.cs.nyu.edu (SPARKY.CS.NYU.EDU [128.122.20.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22174; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:27:14 -0500 Received: by sparky.cs.nyu.edu (SMI-8.6/1.20) id MAA01257; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:22:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:22:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199701091722.MAA01257@sparky.cs.nyu.edu> From: Danny Padwa To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: New 560 models? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anyone know if there are plans to announce some follow-on 560-class machines anytime soon? Is the line being abandoned? I'm finally ready to retire my 750C. The question is whether I should get a 560 or wait for the next generation. Or should I go with a Toshiba? - Danny From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 9 14:13:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA187927195; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:13:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00588; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:07:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:02:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29863; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:02:23 -0500 Received: from Owl.nstn.ca (owl.nstn.ca [137.186.128.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29853; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:02:17 -0500 Received: from innovacorp.ns.ca (nsrfc5.innovacorp.ns.ca [192.75.101.5]) by Owl.nstn.ca (8.8.2/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA16649 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:02:14 -0400 (AST) Received: from hines.innovacorp.ns.ca by innovacorp.ns.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29633; Thu, 9 Jan 97 15:02:49 AST Message-Id: <9701091902.AA29633@innovacorp.ns.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Sandy Hines" Organization: InNOVAcorp To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:01:12 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: (Fwd) Mail Delivery Failure. Reply-To: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well I have a major problem with getting the Assymetrix video capture program to run. This is the preinstalled version 3.0c that comes with the tp. I have successfully used it i the past BUT now that the video is shot and the presentation is in the AM I cannot get the @#$%^ thinsg to function properly. the problem. when I attempt to start the capture program I recieve an error message that says: DVPCAP caused an invalid page fault in module at 0000.baab897a Registers (a long list of registers) BYTES (a long list of bytes) I then try to restart the capture program and it starts BUT the capture screen is green (as well as the text) and there is no picture on the screen. When i close the program (because it does not work) I get a green stain on the screen that tints all icon text etc that is overlayed on top of it.?????? I recently installed DirectX video drivers for a game! MPG playback on the media player was lost but AVI was OK. I reinstalled video for windows v1.10 but no luck. Anyone have any ideas as to the fix for this? Or the cause? Thanks for any input. If you know how to fix it and are in North America send me your phone # and I will call as this is getting rather frustrating. Sandy ps called Assymetrix and they dont know what the problem is. Alexander (Sandy) Hines Marketing and Sales Manager Engineering Serices @ InNOVAcorp Nova Scotia Innovation Corporation 101 Research Drive PO Box 790 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, B2y 3Z7, Canada Phone: 902 424 8670 ext. 155 800 565 7051 Fax: 902 465 7384 Email: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca WWW http://www.innovacorp.ns.ca Alexander (Sandy) Hines Marketing and Sales Manager Engineering Serices @ InNOVAcorp Nova Scotia Innovation Corporation 101 Research Drive PO Box 790 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, B2y 3Z7, Canada Phone: 902 424 8670 ext. 155 800 565 7051 Fax: 902 465 7384 Email: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca WWW http://www.innovacorp.ns.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 9 14:14:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA187987231; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:13:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01140; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:10:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:06:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00337; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:06:12 -0500 Received: from Owl.nstn.ca (owl.nstn.ca [137.186.128.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00309; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:06:05 -0500 Received: from innovacorp.ns.ca (nsrfc5.innovacorp.ns.ca [192.75.101.5]) by Owl.nstn.ca (8.8.2/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA16795 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:06:00 -0400 (AST) Received: from hines.innovacorp.ns.ca by innovacorp.ns.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29675; Thu, 9 Jan 97 15:06:33 AST Message-Id: <9701091906.AA29675@innovacorp.ns.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Sandy Hines" Organization: InNOVAcorp To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:04:56 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Sorry about the last message Reply-To: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry about that subject line on the last message. In my mad dash to get the message of I messed up the address and subsequently forwarded the bounced message to the roup without correcting the subject. Just goes to show how much of a mad dash is on to get this thing functioning. Thanks Sandy Alexander (Sandy) Hines Marketing and Sales Manager Engineering Serices @ InNOVAcorp Nova Scotia Innovation Corporation 101 Research Drive PO Box 790 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, B2y 3Z7, Canada Phone: 902 424 8670 ext. 155 800 565 7051 Fax: 902 465 7384 Email: shines@innovacorp.ns.ca WWW http://www.innovacorp.ns.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 9 14:59:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA196899980; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:59:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05764; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:53:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:49:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05201; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:49:34 -0500 Received: from mailgate.global.ibmmail.com (mailgate.global.ibmmail.com [204.146.55.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05189; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:49:28 -0500 From: Received: from f01n09t0.nccsch.advantis.com by mailgate.global.ibmmail.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/MSCP_1.00) id AA13506; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:43:04 -0500 Received: by f01n09t0.nccsch.advantis.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/MSCP_1.00) id AA50372; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:49:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:47:27 UT Subject: 560 discontinued? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: Priority: NORMAL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Subject: IBM Announcement Listserver Documents Author: announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com at internet Date: 12/10/96 12:50 PM ---- Announcement Letter 996320 ---- Hardware Withdrawal: Selected ThinkPad Systems -- Replacements Available Product Announcement Number 996-320 Announced on December 10, 1996 Abstract Effective January 9, 1997, IBM will withdraw from marketing the products listed in the Product Withdrawals section. After January 9, 1997, you can no longer obtain these products directly from IBM. The products, however, can be obtained on an as-available basis through IBM authorized remarketers with an approved value add and/or IBM Authorized Personal Computer Dealers. Affected Product Information: The machine types 2625, 2640, 9546, and 9547 are affected by this announcement. Refer to the Product Withdrawals section for applicable models. Replacement Product Information Withdrawn Replacement Machine Product Product Type IBM ThinkPad 365E/ED IBM ThinkPad 365X/XD (new models) 2625 IBM ThinkPad 365X/XD IBM ThinkPad 365X/XD (new models) 2625 IBM ThinkPad 560 IBM ThinkPad 560 (new models) 2640 IBM ThinkPad 760 IBM ThinkPad 760E/ED 9546 IBM ThinkPad 760EL IBM ThinkPad 760EL (new models) 9547 ------------------------------ This announcement is provided for your information only. For additional information, contact your IBM representative or call 800-IBM-4YOU. PRODUCT WITHDRAWALS HDD(1) CD Pre- Order Description Memory SVGA Processor Size Size(2) load(3) Number ThinkPad 365ED (2625-B6A) 8 TFT 5x86 810M 4X Dualboot 2625B6A ThinkPad 365XD (2625-DEE) 8 TFTS Pentium 120 1G 4X Warp 2625DEE ThinkPad 365X (2625-6E7) 8 DSTN Pentium 100 810M N Windows 95 26256E7 ThinkPad 365X (2625-7E7) 8 TFTS Pentium 100 810M N Windows 95 26257E7 ThinkPad 365XD (2625-DEF) 8 TFTS Pentium 120 1G 4X Windows 95 2625DEF ThinkPad 365XD (2625-6E3) 8 DSTN Pentium 100 810M 4X Windows 95 26256E3 ThinkPad 560 (2640-E0A) 8 TFT Pentium 120 810M N Windows 95 2640E0A ThinkPad 560 (2640-E0C) 8 TFT Pentium 120 810M N 2640E0C ThinkPad 560 (2640-E09) 8 TFT Pentium 120 810M N Dualboot 2640E09 ThinkPad 560 (2640-F0D) 8 TFT Pentium 1331.08G N Warp 2640F0D ThinkPad 560 (2640-F0G) 8 TFT Pentium 1331.08G N 2640F0G ThinkPad 760ED (9546-U3A) 16 TFTS Pentium 133 1.2G 4X Windows 95 9546U3A ThinkPad 760E (9546-U3B) 8 TFTS Pentium 120 1.2G N Windows 95 9546U3B ThinkPad 760E (9546-U3L) 8 TFTS Pentium 120 1.2G N 9546U3L ThinkPad 760E (9546-U4A) 16 TFTS Pentium 1331.08G N Windows 95 9546U4A ThinkPad 760E (9546-U4B) 8 TFTS Pentium 120 810M N Windows 95 9546U4B ThinkPad 760EL (9547-U4F) 8 TFTS Pentium 1201.08G N Windows 95 9547U4F ThinkPad 760EL (9547-U4H) 16 TFTS Pentium 1331.08G N Windows 95 9547U4H ThinkPad 760EL (9547-U4R) 16 TFTS Pentium 1331.08G N 9547U4R ThinkPad 760EL (9547-U4S) 8 TFTS Pentium 1201.08G N 9547U4S ThinkPad 760EL (9547-U48) 16 TFTS Pentium 1331.08G N Warp 9547U48 (1) Hard Disk Drive (2) N = No (3) Blank = None Trademarks (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation in the United States or other countries or both. Microsoft and Windows are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corporation. Other trademarks and registered trademarks are the properties of their respective owners. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 9 15:31:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA203171892; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:31:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09112; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:26:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:22:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08601; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:22:02 -0500 Received: from rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov (rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.126.88]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08594; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:21:59 -0500 Received: (from porter@localhost) by rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov (LHEA9504/950407.s1) id PAA02326; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:21:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:21:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Dr. F. Scott Porter NASA/GSFC" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 560 discontinued? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I would like to point out that the IBM announcement in the previous message of this thread only pertains to no pre-load, dualboot and warp versions of the 120 and 133 MHz 560. There have been rumors since september that IBM would discontinue the low end 560's. However, there is no evidence for this and it is probably an urban legend (put forward by digital?). So far the windows 95 version of all three models, 100,120,133, are still available although hard to find. The 560 has received so many awards and is selling so well that it would be hard to conceive of IBM discontinuing them at this point. If anyone has any hard evidence that they are discontinuing any of these machines then please bring it forward. Otherwise just let this thread die. To get IBM announcements including discontinued product announcments, point your browser at www.pc.ibm.com and surf to the search-files page and search on "announcments". -- Scott. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. F. Scott Porter Internet: porter@rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center Office: (301)286-5016 Code 662 FAX: (301)286-1684 Greenbelt, MD 20771 WWW: http://lheawww.gsfc.nasa.gov/~porter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 9 18:54:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA243234078; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:54:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28429; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:52:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:44:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27782; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:44:39 -0500 Received: from gumby.buyrite.com (gumby.buyrite.com [206.62.51.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27775; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:44:34 -0500 Received: from ppp148.buyrite.com (206.62.51.148) by gumby.buyrite.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Thu, 09 Jan 1997 18:24:33 -0500 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 18:24:33 -0500 Message-Id: X-Sender: brcbill@buyrite.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Keller Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu remove signoff quit exit leave From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 10 14:11:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA144593499; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:11:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03031; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:07:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:00:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02344; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:00:46 -0500 Received: from dnai.com (dnai.com [140.174.162.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02310; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:00:36 -0500 Received: from marcweidenbaum (dynamic-225.dnai.com [140.174.162.225]) by dnai.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03161 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:59:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <32D691DF.1046@disquiet.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:00:47 -0800 From: Marc Weidenbaum Reply-To: marc@disquiet.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: syquest on 701 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Last time, I promise, I'll inquire on this subject. Has anyone hooked one of those new 1.3 gig Syquest drives up to their 701? -- Marc Weidenbaum marc@disquiet.com http://www.disquiet.com marc_weidenbaum@citysearch.com http://www.citysearch7.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 10 16:44:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA171682674; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:44:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17892; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:42:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:37:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17462; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:37:40 -0500 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17452; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:37:37 -0500 Received: from chervil.execpc.com (chervil.execpc.com [169.207.12.166]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.4/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA04537 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:41:43 -0600 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: IBM finally solves the 760ED freezing problem Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 21:39:41 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <32d6b57c.24033806@mailgate.execpc.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/16.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The documentation for the latest BIOS for the 760ED, version 1.05, states the following about what is fixed in version 1.05: <1.05> - (Fix) System intermittently hangs especially under communication environments. A fellow Thinkpad user says that this BIOS has solved their freezing problems. I haven't put it on our Thinkpad but plan to in the next two weeks, but I'm hoping this will close the book on this issue. You can go to http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/sytpg.html to download the BIOS. Tom Kustner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 10 22:37:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA227173843; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:37:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14213; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:35:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:28:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13339; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:28:26 -0500 Received: from gosensgo (gosensgo.brit.ca [207.134.28.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13325; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:28:21 -0500 Received: from gosensgo (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gosensgo (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id WAA00129 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:31:48 -0500 Sender: root@gosensgo Message-Id: <32D709A4.557874D4@brit.ca> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:31:48 -0500 From: Trevor Boicey Organization: BRIT Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: New to the list, hello Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello. I just bought a TP701C, dx2-50, 20M, 340hd. Just getting used to it now. Nice machine, wonderful screen. My main intention is running Linux on the machine, which seems fairly possible from my searchings of the web. I know Linux fairly well, but this is my first laptop that would be capable of seriously running it. Quick question, is there any source of documentation? My laptop came with French documentation. My french is fairly good to read a novel, but a technical document gets a bit harder. Especially when, like most languages, a slightly different spelling or an extra word thrown in can make the whole sentence mean the opposite of what it appears. (Contrast "Never open the foozbang without first disengaging the whizbopper", with the same sentence minus the "dis"!) Also, in Canada, where would I call to transfer the warranty? I was told by the seller this was possible, I hope that to be true. Thanks! -- -----------------------------------------Ottawa-Canada-GOSENSGO------ Trevor Boicey 1992 Celica GT 1975 MG Midget tboicey@brit.ca <== Note new email address... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 11 01:29:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA251384141; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:29:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26323; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:27:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:23:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25905; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:23:34 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu ([152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25895; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:23:30 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA13501; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:20:54 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199701110620.BAA13501@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: New to the list, hello In-Reply-To: <32D709A4.557874D4@brit.ca> from Trevor Boicey at "Jan 10, 97 10:31:48 pm" To: tboicey@brit.ca (Trevor Boicey) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:20:54 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I just bought a TP701C, dx2-50, 20M, 340hd. Just getting used > to it now. Nice machine, wonderful screen. Nice laptop. > My main intention is running Linux on the machine, which seems > fairly possible from my searchings of the web. I know Linux > fairly well, but this is my first laptop that would be capable > of seriously running it. > > Quick question, is there any source of documentation? My There is a linux laptop mailing list. I don't know the address off the top of my head, but you should be able to search the Linux HOW-TO's to get the address. The mailing list should have a FAQ. Having said this, installing Linux is very easy. Just remember to specify "floppy=thinkpad" when prompted for special append flags when you boot from the root disk. The rest is identical to installing on a desktop. I suggest downloading and compiling the latest release kernel (2.0.27?). When you do this, you are better off _not_ modularizing drivers that you will use frequently (especially APM). Also download and install APMD, which does not come bundled in most Linux distributions. You can use APMD to suspend your TP safely. > Also, in Canada, where would I call to transfer the > warranty? I was told by the seller this was possible, I > hope that to be true. Warranty transfers automatically...just get the original receipt from the original owner. If you don't, IBM will go by the manufacture date. Regards, Dave. > > Thanks! > > -- > -----------------------------------------Ottawa-Canada-GOSENSGO------ > Trevor Boicey 1992 Celica GT 1975 MG Midget > tboicey@brit.ca <== Note new email address... > -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 11 04:08:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA274423720; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 04:08:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06339; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 04:04:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 11 Jan 1997 04:00:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05803; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 04:00:47 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05786; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 04:00:44 -0500 Received: from cartan.hawaii.edu (cartan.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA04468; Fri, 10 Jan 97 23:00:41 HST Received: by cartan.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA10506; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 23:01:56 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199701110901.XAA10506@cartan.hawaii.edu> Subject: Mysterious TP701 speedup To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 23:01:55 HST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Whenever I've done any hardware or software tweaking of my 701C, I've run Windows Magazine's Wintune 2.0 benchmark suite to evaluate the change. While my disk, video, and memory benchmarks have changed as result of new BIOS, more memory, etc., my cpu and fpu marks have stayed fairly constant (as one would expect). Recently, my machine took a trip to EZ-serve. On its return I reran Wintune, and was shocked to see a 90% improvement in the cpu and fpu scores! I suspect that part of the (attempted) repair was a new system 'top' board, so now I wonder: were there 2 (or more) versions of this board produced, with different performance? (I should add that I have one of the DX4-75 models, and neither the BIOS setup menu nor qconfig have changed which chip they report - so, its not like I was secretly upgraded from a DX2-50 to a DX4-75.) Here are the numbers: 18 December 1996: 4.0 Whetstone MFlops, 16.7 Dhrystone MIPS 7 January 1997: 7.7 Whetstone MFlops, 33.6 Dhrystone MIPS Absolutely no change in BIOS or software configuration between tests. The first set of scores is comparable to scores from last March, soon after I bought the machine. Can anyone help explain this? If others have run Wintune 2.0 on their 701, I'd like to see the results. (*Not* Wintune 95, which uses different precisions and so isn't comparable, but Wintune 2.0 under Win-OS2 should give similar Whet/Dhrystones.) If you email these to me directly I can collate and save bandwidth on the list. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 11 09:07:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA014331656; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:07:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28343; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:04:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 11 Jan 1997 08:59:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28051; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 08:59:41 -0500 Received: from mahoneynt.mahoney-chevy.com (mahoneynt.mahoney-chevy.com [204.95.252.164]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28045; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 08:59:38 -0500 Received: by mahoneynt.mahoney-chevy.com with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BBFF9D.D54444B0@mahoneynt.mahoney-chevy.com>; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:00:03 -0500 Message-Id: From: To: Subject: RE: IBM finally solves the 760ED freezing problem Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:00:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tom, I got the update that went with the XGA monitor, I think it was 101, and locked up on my very next start up. Any Ideas? Michael Mahoney Indianapolis, IN. mahoneym@iquest.net http://www.iquest.net/cars >-----Original Message----- >From: tom.kustner@emjay.com [SMTP:tom.kustner@emjay.com] >Sent: Friday, January 10, 1997 4:40 PM >To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: IBM finally solves the 760ED freezing problem > >The documentation for the latest BIOS for the 760ED, version 1.05, >states the following about what is fixed in version 1.05: > ><1.05> > - (Fix) System intermittently hangs especially under communication > environments. > >A fellow Thinkpad user says that this BIOS has solved their freezing >problems. I haven't put it on our Thinkpad but plan to in the next >two weeks, but I'm hoping this will close the book on this issue. > >You can go to http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/sytpg.html >to download the BIOS. > >Tom Kustner > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >---- >Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation >System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. >Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA >Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 11 11:38:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA036100711; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:38:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08418; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:37:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:33:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07839; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:33:31 -0500 Received: from demeter.leftbank.com (sneaker.net [192.31.227.142]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07833; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:33:28 -0500 Received: (from kenyee@localhost) by demeter.leftbank.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA15983; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:33:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:33:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701111633.LAA15983@demeter.leftbank.com> From: Ken Yee To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: difference in memory between 760CD and 760E and 760X? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know if the memory used in a 760CD can be put in a 760E or 760X? I've seen Kingston models specifically for the 760C and 760E. thanks, ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 11 13:14:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA050286469; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 13:14:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14765; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 13:13:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 11 Jan 1997 13:09:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14497; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 13:09:29 -0500 Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14491; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 13:09:26 -0500 Received: from jimVista (dal-tsa7-52.cyberramp.net [207.158.98.52]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.8.4/8.8.4/crush-0110-0322) with SMTP id MAA00531; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 12:09:20 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <32D7D5C3.3AB7@cyberramp.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 12:02:43 -0600 From: Jim McGhee X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mysterious TP701 speedup References: <199701110901.XAA10506@cartan.hawaii.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I just got my 701cs back from EZ Serve and they replaced my 50mhz board with a 75mhz board. The system info under configuration says so. Cool. Jim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 11 15:07:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA065393234; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:07:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22294; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:06:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:01:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21786; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:01:32 -0500 Received: from asylum.apocalypse.org (asylum.sf.ca.us [192.48.232.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21780; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:01:29 -0500 Received: from slip166-72-80-243.ca.us.ibm.net (slip166-72-80-243.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.80.243]) by asylum.apocalypse.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA02642 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:01:15 -0500 From: lang@apocalypse.org (Lang Zerner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Dock II sold Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 20:04:12 GMT Organization: ITC Consulting Group Reply-To: lang@apocalypse.org Message-Id: <32d8f215.1266671@192.48.232.17> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The Dock II I offered for sale is now sold. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 11 22:34:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA125940051; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 22:34:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20060; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 22:33:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 11 Jan 1997 22:28:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19629; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 22:28:31 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19621; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 22:28:28 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA06114; Sat, 11 Jan 97 17:28:24 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA20037; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 17:28:56 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199701120328.RAA20037@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Mysterious TP701 speedup To: jmcghee@cyberramp.net (Jim McGhee) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 97 17:28:55 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <32D7D5C3.3AB7@cyberramp.net>; from "Jim McGhee" at Jan 11, 97 12:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I just got my 701cs back from EZ Serve and they replaced my 50mhz board > with a 75mhz board. The system info under configuration says so. Well, mine was 75mhz both going in and coming out, and I *still* had a 90% speedup, so the question remains... - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 12 09:13:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA212548392; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 09:13:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02318; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 09:11:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 12 Jan 1997 09:06:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01908; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 09:06:22 -0500 Received: from jaring.my (jaring.my [192.228.128.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01901; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 09:06:12 -0500 Received: from host.jaring.my (j26.ptl36.jaring.my [161.142.115.160]) by jaring.my (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA02281; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 22:05:55 +0800 (MYT) Message-Id: <199701121405.WAA02281@jaring.my> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "George In" To: , "Eric Giles" Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 22:05:34 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: TP 701C refresh rates on ext. monitor Reply-To: gin@pc.jaring.my Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I'm trying to increase the refresh rate on my 701C using a MAG Innovision > DX15F. I'm using the C&T Win 95 drivers dated 7/11/96. The refresh tab in > the display properties will not allow me to select anything. I've just > installed the latest driver that is DirectX 3.0 compatible, but now my > system hangs on reboot. Selecting the proper .inf file for the monitor > doesn't help either. Any help with this is greatly appreciated. Eric, Hi, do you have the URL where you got this latests drivers handy? Thanks. regards, George In. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 13 00:09:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA048952188; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 00:09:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05389; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 00:04:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:59:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04928; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:59:28 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04912; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:59:23 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95e.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95e.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.174]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA06124; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:58:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199701130458.XAA06124@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Eric Giles" , "gin@pc.jaring.my" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 12 Jan 97 23:58:36 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 701C refresh rates on ext. monitor Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Try http://www.pc.ibm.com/searchfiles.html & search on 701, sorry I don't remember the files name. On Sun, 12 Jan 1997 22:05:34 +0800, George In wrote: >> I'm trying to increase the refresh rate on my 701C using a MAG Innovision >> DX15F. I'm using the C&T Win 95 drivers dated 7/11/96. The refresh tab in >> the display properties will not allow me to select anything. I've just >> installed the latest driver that is DirectX 3.0 compatible, but now my >> system hangs on reboot. Selecting the proper .inf file for the monitor >> doesn't help either. Any help with this is greatly appreciated. > >Eric, > >Hi, do you have the URL where you got this latests drivers handy? > >Thanks. > >regards, >George In. jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 13 06:42:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA105745769; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:42:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06494; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:37:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:30:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06052; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:30:18 -0500 Received: from gps.leeds.ac.uk (gps-fddi.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06034; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:30:07 -0500 Received: (from engjcc@localhost) by gps.leeds.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA08562 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:28:56 GMT From: J C Cummings Message-Id: <199701131128.LAA08562@gps.leeds.ac.uk> Subject: UK source for TP750 Memory upgrade... To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:28:56 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" at Jan 12, 97 12:15:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dear All, Can someone furnish me with the UK IBM numbers, and have any idea of reputable places in the UK to mailorder a memory upgrade for an old TP750. Many thanks, James engjcc@leeds.ac.uk From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 13 12:41:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA161177318; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:41:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10287; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:37:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:18:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08492; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:18:17 -0500 Received: from wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov (wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.50.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08440; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:18:02 -0500 Received: from pioneer2.gsfc.nasa.gov (pioneer3.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.169.65]) by wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA17284 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:17:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970113121826.0069e0f4@pop700.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: helfrich@pop700.gsfc.nasa.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:18:27 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Daniel Helfrich Subject: Stereo input --> mono output on my TP 560 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, My TP560 (Windows 95) runs the ESS ES1688 AudioDrive S/W. Under file properties, it is version 4.03.02 When I pipe in the stereo audio signal from my CD drive, it comes back out mono. :^( I can't find any settings in the control panel to change. So is there anything I can do, or is the input jack only built to take in a single channel? I am using the "built-in" ESS Audiodrive Mixer, is that the problem? Is there an update or superior mixer software for the 560? ALSO: I have a TP 560 model which didn't originally come with Windows 95 on it. It was installed by the vendor, and I have reinstalled since. What Win95-specific extras am I missing, software-wise, if anything, and if so, can I go somewhere to get such extras? Thanks, Dan -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel D. Helfrich, Landsat 7 Mechanical Systems Engineer, Landsat Project NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Maryland, USA 20771 phone: (301)286-8481 fax: (301)286-1744 email: helfrich@gsfc.nasa.gov From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 13 13:28:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA169460134; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:28:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14351; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:26:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:21:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13803; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:21:30 -0500 Received: from mailgate.global.ibmmail.com (mailgate.global.ibmmail.com [204.146.55.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13794; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:21:27 -0500 From: Received: from f01n09t0.nccsch.advantis.com by mailgate.global.ibmmail.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/MSCP_1.00) id AA18346; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:12:52 -0500 Received: by f01n09t0.nccsch.advantis.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/MSCP_1.00) id AA66397; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:19:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:17:41 UT Subject: Re: difference in memory between 760CD and 760E and 760X? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <7BGDLZ6S0000500A@f01n09e0.nccsch.advantis.com.> Priority: NORMAL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Ken, No, you can't use the same memory. They are different types. I've included an excerpt (see below) from the announcement letter. Thanks, Larry NUMBER 196-091 DATE 960423 CATEGORY WS00, WS20 TYPE Hardware TITLE IBM THINKPAD 760E AND 760ED FEATURE PENTIUM 133MHZ OR 120MHZ PROCESSOR AND WINDOWS 95 PREINSTALLED ABSTRACT *-------------------------------------------------------------------* | IN BRIEF . . . | The THINKPAD 760E/ED family -- packed with power and function, still a light-weight, compact notebook. Don't miss seeing the 12.1-inch SVGA TFT display -- one of the largest screens available in this size notebook computer. Key features include: (snip) o 16MB or 8MB of memory is standard depending on model. 16MB systems can be expanded to a maximum of 80MB and 8MB systems can be expanded to a maximum of 72MB of internal memory with existing memory options. This is a new type of memory and only the ThinkPad 64-bit 8MB, 16MB, or 32MB EDO SO DIMMs, 3 V, non-parity memory options, or equivalent, announced with these systems can be used. This new memory cannot be used with previously announced 755 or 760 ThinkPads. ______________________________ Reply Separator ________________________________ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:33:26 -0500 From: Ken Yee To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: difference in memory between 760CD and 760E and 760X? Message-Id: <199701111633.LAA15983@demeter.leftbank.com> Does anyone know if the memory used in a 760CD can be put in a 760E or 760X? I've seen Kingston models specifically for the 760C and 760E. thanks, ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 13 14:50:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA186135007; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:50:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21386; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:46:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:39:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20673; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:39:53 -0500 Received: from demeter.leftbank.com (sneaker.net [192.31.227.142]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20667; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:39:50 -0500 Received: (from kenyee@localhost) by demeter.leftbank.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA20601; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:27:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:27:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701131927.OAA20601@demeter.leftbank.com> From: Ken Yee To: larry_flynt@rosewd.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <7BGDLZ6S0000500A@f01n09e0.nccsch.advantis.com.> (larry_flynt@rosewd.com) Subject: Re: difference in memory between 760CD and 760E and 760X? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > No, you can't use the same memory. They are different types. I've > included an excerpt (see below) from the announcement letter. Grrr...why can't they standardize on memory connectors and be backwards compatible? On a different subject, does anyone know what a 760CD in good condition (no bad pixels) is worth on the used market? Looks like it's going to be time to upgrade to a 760X w/ MMX and CardBus finally :-) ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 13 15:07:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA189816024; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:07:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23185; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:03:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:58:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22597; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:58:28 -0500 Received: from netcom21.netcom.com (netcom21.netcom.com [192.100.81.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22585; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:58:20 -0500 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id LAA24164; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:57:44 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:57:44 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199701131957.LAA24164@netcom21.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: 560 discontinued? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've heard some new 560's will be announced in February. I'm hoping for a 1024x768 screen among other things. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 13 17:21:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA218094071; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:21:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07043; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:18:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:13:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06472; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:12:57 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06444; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:12:50 -0500 Received: from ankle (host-165-53.uplanet.com [204.163.165.53]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02075 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:13:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970113140438.007471ac@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: mind@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:11:51 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jesse Montrose Subject: re: 560 discontinued? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:57 AM 1/13/97 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: >I've heard some new 560's will be announced in February. >I'm hoping for a 1024x768 screen among other things. I just talked to a mail order guy who said he has 1,350 560's on backorder, and that he doesn't expect to see any of them :) I've heard rumors around about something new coming too, hope they make a reasonable amount of them this time :) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 13 18:28:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA230758113; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:28:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14083; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:26:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:20:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13394; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:20:05 -0500 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@morgana.punk.net [204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13367; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:19:56 -0500 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA01869; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:22:02 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:22:00 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Parker To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP 701C - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? In-Reply-To: <199701130458.XAA06124@mule1.mindspring.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Question: Does the IBM Thinkpad 701C scale 320x200 video modes to full screen 640x480? ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 14 08:26:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA065108394; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:26:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16325; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:24:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:20:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16040; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:20:22 -0500 Received: from relay.ins.net (root@popp.ins.de [192.129.55.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16023; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:20:18 -0500 Received: from news.mlc.de ([194.122.215.34]) by relay.ins.net (8.8.2/INS-1.5.1) with ESMTP id OAA16928 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:19:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from riscy.mlc.de (riscy.mlc.de [193.98.180.65]) by news.mlc.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA32397 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:14:02 +0100 Received: from notesgw by riscy.mlc.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA82882; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:19:05 +0100 Received: by NOTESGW.mlc.de.mlc.de (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.17/1.2) id AA0388; Tue, 14 Jan 97 14:15:37 -0500 Message-Id: <9701141915.AA0388@NOTESGW.mlc.de.mlc.de> Received: by MLC Ratingen (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 0BFAE18D2123A7794125641F0048634B; Tue, 14 Jan 97 14:15:37 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" From: Stefan Tilkov Date: 14 Jan 97 14:16:51 Subject: Dock I info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, this is my first message to this mailing list, so please bear with me if this has been asked a hundred times before. I bought a 760EL (1.0GB hard drive, CD ROM and 48 MB memory) and I'm still waiting for my Dock I to arrive. When I receive it, I plan to install a second HD. Now the question: Can I install any IDE or SCSI drive or can the slot(s) in the docking station only be used for IBM drives, i.e. is the slot an UltraBay? If so, are there manufacturers that sell HDs for the UltraBay other than IBM? Thanks, Stefan Tilkov From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 14 17:11:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA160819893; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:11:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14540; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:09:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:00:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13713; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:00:16 -0500 Received: from moondance.np.ac.sg (moondance.np.ac.sg [153.20.24.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13691; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:00:11 -0500 Received: (uucp@localhost) by moondance.np.ac.sg (8.7.1/8.7.1) id FAA09250 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 05:54:01 GMT Received: from 93202707@mercury.np.ac.sg(153.20.24.81) by moondance.np.ac.sg via smap (V1.3) id sma009248; Wed Jan 15 05:53:38 1997 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 05:59:39 +0800 (SGT) From: Loke Teng Yan <93202707@mercury.np.ac.sg> X-Sender: 93202707@mercury To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: PS/2 Mouse with TP760 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I have a IBM TP760ELD with a Logitech First Mouse (PS/2). The manual for the mouse says that the computer must be turned off before the mouse can be attached or removed. Is it safe then to attach and remove the mouse when my notebook is in suspend mode? Thanks for any response. Teng Yan Loke aka Cow | lokety@post1.com | finger 4 PGP key | Quake Electronic & Computer Engr. Ngee Ann Polytechnic Singapore | HP100LX | OS/2 => MW2/Myst/SC2K/Relentless Infopages ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 14 17:39:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA166011597; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:39:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17446; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:39:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:35:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17090; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:35:33 -0500 Received: from helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk (root@helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.8.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17072; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:35:28 -0500 Received: from dialup.kcl.ac.uk (remote391.dialup.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.77.237]) by helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA21326 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:35:05 GMT Message-Id: <199701142235.WAA21326@helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Costas S. Iliopoulos" Organization: King's College London To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 21:00:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Comatose 365X v 760E Reply-To: csi@dcs.kcl.ac.uk Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi there, IBM UK is sending me a refund check for my comatose 365X (see below) and I am thinking of buying a 760E. Two questions: Do the 760Es really get very hot? Will the memory of the 365X work in a 760E? My 365X story: 1 October. I buy a 365X. The right arrow on the keyboard sticks. I FedEx the machine to IBM Service. The 365X gets nicked while on transport. Insurance claims, refunds etc 20 October. I buy a new 365X. I add 16MB of Memory. The bloody 365X refuses to suspend/hybernate. I send it to IBM service. Ooops, the 365X gets roasted while in service. Yeap , I get a refund. 1 November. I buy a new 365X. Yes, after a FABULOUS continuous 4 day work, the 365x says, I have an error 714, get me bloody serviced. I send it to the IBM service. New motherboard. New Hard drive. 16 November. The serviceperson drops my 365X and breaks into peices like watermelon. Yeap, they give me a new machine. 3 December. The Hard drive spins endlessly. Service/new hard drive. etc The new hard drive starts getting a new bad sector every minute. Then, I say to IBM UK, give up fixing the bloody thing ... and they are giving me my money back My first 365X was a P100 (which became obsolete in the process), the rest P120's (yes I used the latest bios). All the hard drives were 810MB and they only failed when I filled them near to capacity (~750MB). Although, I always had the same model, no two 365X's were 100% identical, the keyboards varied, the plastic used varied, the adaptors varied, the under the keyboard cover varied, the batteries varied, ... All drivers/bioses installed were old or very old. Overall I liked the 365Xs but they showed a clear addition to IBM service depots. The IBM UK (Glasgow) Software support is/was/will be a complete joke,,, Don't bother to call them. Cheers Costas ______________________________________________________________________ Costas S. Iliopoulos Algorithm Design Group Tel: 44 (171) 873 2809 Dept of Computer Science Fax: 44 (171) 873 2851 King's College London Sec: 44 (171) 873 2588 Strand England http://www.dcs.kcl.ac.uk/staff/csi _______________________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 14 19:59:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA195899959; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 19:59:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28159; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 19:59:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 14 Jan 1997 19:54:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27723; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 19:54:29 -0500 Received: from ts1.netpathway.com (root@ts1.netpathway.com [208.137.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27714; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 19:54:16 -0500 Received: from egiles (port11.netpathway.com [208.137.139.26]) by ts1.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA10991 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:54:16 -0600 Message-Id: <199701150054.SAA10991@ts1.netpathway.com> From: "Eric Giles" To: Subject: Re: Comatose 365X v 760E Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:52:59 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just received my new 760ED last week. Yes, it gets very hot, and I would assume that since the units are very similar, the 760E will do the same. You can call IBM (after your experience I'm sure you are glad to hear that!) and they will ship you a new bottom cover with a 'thermal plastic transfer compound' that is supposed to help this problem, although it will not stop it. As far as the 365 memory working with the 760, I cannot say for sure, but I do not think that it will. I'm sure that someone else will clear this up. I strongly recomend the 760 series. The performance, screen quality, and fit and finish are incredible. Hopefully you won't ever have to send back to IBM! Hope this helps-- Eric Giles ---------- > From: Costas S. Iliopoulos > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Comatose 365X v 760E > Date: Tuesday, January 14, 1997 3:00 PM > > Hi there, > > IBM UK is sending me a refund check for my comatose 365X (see below) and I am > thinking of buying a 760E. Two questions: > > Do the 760Es really get very hot? > > Will the memory of the 365X work in a 760E? > > > > My 365X story: > > 1 October. I buy a 365X. The right arrow on the keyboard sticks. I FedEx > the machine to IBM Service. The 365X gets nicked while on transport. > Insurance claims, refunds etc > > 20 October. I buy a new 365X. I add 16MB of Memory. The bloody 365X refuses to > suspend/hybernate. I send it to IBM service. Ooops, the 365X gets roasted while > in service. Yeap , I get a refund. > > 1 November. I buy a new 365X. Yes, after a FABULOUS continuous 4 > day work, the 365x says, I have an error 714, get me bloody > serviced. I send it to the IBM service. New motherboard. New Hard > drive. > > 16 November. The serviceperson drops my 365X and breaks into peices > like watermelon. Yeap, they give me a new machine. > > 3 December. The Hard drive spins endlessly. Service/new hard drive. > etc The new hard drive starts getting a new bad sector every minute. > Then, I say to IBM UK, give up fixing the bloody thing ... > and they are giving me my money back > > My first 365X was a P100 (which became obsolete in the process), the > rest P120's (yes I used the latest bios). All the hard drives were > 810MB and they only failed when I filled them near to capacity > (~750MB). Although, I always had the same model, no two 365X's were > 100% identical, the keyboards varied, the plastic used varied, the > adaptors varied, the under the keyboard cover varied, the batteries > varied, ... All drivers/bioses installed were old or very old. > > Overall I liked the 365Xs but they showed a clear addition to IBM > service depots. > > The IBM UK (Glasgow) Software support is/was/will be a complete > joke,,, Don't bother to call them. > > Cheers > Costas > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Costas S. Iliopoulos > > Algorithm Design Group Tel: 44 (171) 873 2809 > Dept of Computer Science Fax: 44 (171) 873 2851 > King's College London Sec: 44 (171) 873 2588 > Strand > England http://www.dcs.kcl.ac.uk/staff/csi > _______________________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 14 20:42:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA202482543; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:42:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01246; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:41:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:36:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00758; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:36:30 -0500 Received: from ts1.netpathway.com (root@ts1.netpathway.com [208.137.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00726; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:36:20 -0500 Received: from egiles (port11.netpathway.com [208.137.139.26]) by ts1.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA11519 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 19:36:16 -0600 Message-Id: <199701150136.TAA11519@ts1.netpathway.com> From: "Eric Giles" To: "ThinkPad mailing list" Subject: TP 760ED questions Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 19:34:59 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have some questions concerning my 760ED. After receiving my unit last Tuesday, the built in MPEG hardware worked fine when playing the included CD sampler. However, after installing Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.01 with ActiveMovie, the CD sampler would not play the MPEG files. I fiddled around, unchecked all associations with ActiveMovie, uninstalled it, and reinstalled all of the IBM MPEG and video features (newest versions), all to no avail. The machine locks when trying to play the clips. I called IBM tech support Friday.Their multimedia group handled the problem. The guy said that this was not the first time he had heard of this, and that he had previously tried to figure out the problem but he had no idea how to. He said that ActiveMovie was the culprit, and that uninstalling it never completely removes it. His two suggestions-1)Call Microsoft (oh boy), or 2)Reformat and reinstall everything. Another problem that I am having is with the Mwave modem at work. The modem works fine with Dial up Networking on normal phone lines with this modem. However, the lines at work require me to dial 9 to access the outside line. It is set up to do this, but the modem refuses to dial 9. You can hear the tone (not the dial tone) thru the speakers, but after a few seconds it reports that there is no phone line connected. I can use a SimpleJack 33.6 PC Card modem and it instantly dials the 9 and access the outside line. I have verified that everything is set correctly, so I am not sure what the problem is. If anyone could help me with either of these problems I would be grateful. Besides these nitpicking problems, the machine is great! Sure would be nice to show off the machines MPEG capabilites again, though! Thank you- Eric Giles From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 14 23:31:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA233782698; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:31:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15011; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:31:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:26:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14484; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:26:15 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14478; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:26:13 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95d.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95d.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.173]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA32010; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:26:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199701150426.XAA32010@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "csi@dcs.kcl.ac.uk" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 23:26:07 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Comatose 365X v 760E Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yes it will. On Tue, 14 Jan 1997 21:00:50 +0000, Costas S. Iliopoulos wrote: >Hi there, > >IBM UK is sending me a refund check for my comatose 365X (see below) and I am >thinking of buying a 760E. Two questions: > >Do the 760Es really get very hot? > >Will the memory of the 365X work in a 760E? > > > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 14 23:34:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA234692892; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:34:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15235; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:34:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:30:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14890; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:30:35 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14878; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:30:31 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95d.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95d.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.173]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA72524; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:29:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199701150429.XAA72524@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Stefan Tilkov" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 23:29:51 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dock I info Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu When you say dock 1, do you meen a select-a-dock 1 or the old style dock 1. If it is the select-a-dock1 then you will need a Thinkpad or cabalitable HD. If it is the old style dock 1, then any IDE or SCSI HD should work. On 14 Jan 97 14:16:51, Stefan Tilkov wrote: >Hi, > >this is my first message to this mailing list, so please >bear with me if this has been asked a hundred times >before. > >I bought a 760EL (1.0GB hard drive, CD ROM and 48 MB >memory) and I'm still waiting for my Dock I to arrive. When >I receive it, I plan to install a second HD. Now the question: > >Can I install any IDE or SCSI drive or can the slot(s) in the >docking station only be used for IBM drives, i.e. is the >slot an UltraBay? If so, are there manufacturers that sell >HDs for the UltraBay other than IBM? > >Thanks, >Stefan Tilkov jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: New round of questions, probably all in the FAQ I can't find... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is there a FAQ for the list? I'm sure a lot of these are going to be on there... I just bought a Thinkpad 701C, great machine. The manual seems to say that it's alright to recharge the battery when it's not empty, and that emptying the battery will actually shorten it's life. Considering it's a NiCad, this surprises me. Can anyone shed some more information on this? As well, the plastic drive caddy. How difficult are they to disassemble and change the drive in? I have a toshiba 1.3 gig drive that would be better in there than the 360 megger, but I don't want to ruin the 360 caddy to try it. As well, will the BIOS support the large drive? Anything I should know about DYI drive swaps? Also, where can I get an AT command manual for the built-in modem? -- -----------------------------------------Ottawa-Canada-GOSENSGO------ Trevor Boicey 1992 Celica GT 1975 MG Midget tboicey@brit.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 14 23:48:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA237373683; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:48:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16937; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:47:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:43:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16288; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:43:42 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16275; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:43:38 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95d.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95d.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.173]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA51788; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:43:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199701150443.XAA51788@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Daniel Helfrich" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 23:43:32 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Stereo input --> mono output on my TP 560 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu First, does the cd-rom send a stereo or mono signal through the cd card and same thing with the pc card. If you go to http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tpsu.html & select the 560, you will find all the TP specific s/w. On Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:18:27 -0500, Daniel Helfrich wrote: >Hello, > >My TP560 (Windows 95) runs the ESS ES1688 AudioDrive S/W. >Under file properties, it is version 4.03.02 > >When I pipe in the stereo audio signal from my CD drive, it >comes back out mono. :^( I can't find any settings in the >control panel to change. So is there anything I can do, >or is the input jack only built to take in a single channel? > >I am using the "built-in" ESS Audiodrive Mixer, is that the problem? >Is there an update or superior mixer software for the 560? > >ALSO: >I have a TP 560 model which didn't originally come with Windows 95 on >it. It was installed by the vendor, and I have reinstalled since. >What Win95-specific extras am I missing, software-wise, if anything, and >if so, can I go somewhere to get such extras? > >Thanks, >Dan > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Daniel D. Helfrich, Landsat 7 Mechanical Systems Engineer, Landsat Project >NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Maryland, USA 20771 >phone: (301)286-8481 fax: (301)286-1744 email: helfrich@gsfc.nasa.gov jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 15 00:14:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA241815241; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:14:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18900; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:13:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:09:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18466; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:09:40 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18451; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:09:33 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id AAA02414; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:09:20 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199701150509.AAA02414@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Dock I info To: jeffsnc@mindspring.com Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:09:19 -0500 (EST) Cc: Stefan.Tilkov@mlc.de, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199701150429.XAA72524@mule1.mindspring.com> from "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" at Jan 14, 97 11:29:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > >I bought a 760EL (1.0GB hard drive, CD ROM and 48 MB > >memory) and I'm still waiting for my Dock I to arrive. When > >I receive it, I plan to install a second HD. Now the question: > > > >Can I install any IDE or SCSI drive or can the slot(s) in the > >docking station only be used for IBM drives, i.e. is the > >slot an UltraBay? If so, are there manufacturers that sell > >HDs for the UltraBay other than IBM? > When you say dock 1, do you meen a select-a-dock 1 or the old style > dock 1. If it is the select-a-dock1 then you will need a Thinkpad or > cabalitable HD. If it is the old style dock 1, then any IDE or SCSI > HD should work. The old Dock 1 has one 5-1/4" bay that's only 1" high, so there may be limitations on what will fit. You might also need mounting hardware; I had no luck trying to install a Fujitsu SCSI drive in my Dock I, as I didn't have the appropriate mounting brackets, etc. In fact, it doesn't appear to be easy to install anything in the Dock I bay without buying additional parts from IBM. But if someone else knows otherwise (I don't have a manual for my Dock I) I'd like to hear about it! -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 15 00:33:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA245296392; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:33:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20728; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:33:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:29:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20268; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:28:59 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20261; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:28:52 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-5 #9830) id <01IE7VSPXF4GC7JKP5@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:28:37 MST Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:23:15 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: TP 760ED questions In-Reply-To: "Message dated Tue, 14 Jan 1997 19:34:59 -0600" <199701150136.TAA11519@ts1.netpathway.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IE7WOE8ABWC7JKP5@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Another problem that I am having is with the Mwave modem at work. The modem > works fine with Dial up Networking on normal phone lines with this modem. > However, the lines at work require me to dial 9 to access the outside line. > It is set up to do this, but the modem refuses to dial 9. You can hear the > tone (not the dial tone) thru the speakers, but after a few seconds it > reports that there is no phone line connected. You need to disable dialtone recognition either by blind dialing or with the X register, as in AT X0. Don't have my Thinkpad handy but all this is in the MWave on-line help. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 15 06:54:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA004029282; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 06:54:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA29459; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 06:54:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 15 Jan 1997 06:49:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA29141; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 06:49:46 -0500 Received: from relay.ins.net (root@popp.ins.de [192.129.55.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA29135; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 06:49:43 -0500 Received: from news.mlc.de ([194.122.215.34]) by relay.ins.net (8.8.2/INS-1.5.1) with ESMTP id MAA04359 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:49:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from riscy.mlc.de (riscy.mlc.de [193.98.180.65]) by news.mlc.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05788 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:46:30 +0100 Received: from notesgw by riscy.mlc.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25753; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:51:03 +0100 Received: by NOTESGW.mlc.de.mlc.de (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.17/1.2) id AA0835; Wed, 15 Jan 97 12:47:33 -0500 Message-Id: <9701151747.AA0835@NOTESGW.mlc.de.mlc.de> Received: by MLC Ratingen (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id C2A72B00E32367C8412564200040353B; Wed, 15 Jan 97 12:47:32 To: thinkpad From: Stefan Tilkov Date: 15 Jan 97 12:49:31 Subject: Dock I and new (unrelated) question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks for the information about Dock I. (BTW: It really is a Dock I, not a SelectaDock). I found another problem with my machine (TP760EL [no MWAVE] running Win95): The Win95 sounds (when entering Windows, opening a menu, etc.) work fine until I manually select stand-by mode from the start menu. When I press Fn, the machine comes up alright, but there are no sounds anymore. I dowloaded and installed a BIOS update and IBM's ESS audio driver, but this changed nothing. What am I missing? Thanks, Stefan Tilkov/MLC From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 15 11:05:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA043974320; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:05:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20102; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:04:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:58:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19143; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:58:06 -0500 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19125; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:58:00 -0500 Received: from milamber.execpc.com (milamber.execpc.com [169.207.8.224]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.4/8.8.3) with SMTP id KAA27967; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:02:18 -0600 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: "Eric Giles" Cc: "ThinkPad mailing list" Subject: Re: TP 760ED questions Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:00:31 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <32ddfdcf.3047403@mailgate.execpc.com> References: <199701150136.TAA11519@ts1.netpathway.com> In-Reply-To: <199701150136.TAA11519@ts1.netpathway.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/16.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 14 Jan 1997 19:34:59 -0600, you wrote: >I have some questions concerning my 760ED.=20 > >After receiving my unit last Tuesday, the built in MPEG hardware worked >fine when playing the included CD sampler. However, after installing >Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.01 with ActiveMovie, the CD sampler would = not >play the MPEG files. I fiddled around, unchecked all associations with >ActiveMovie, uninstalled it, and reinstalled all of the IBM MPEG and = video >features (newest versions), all to no avail. The machine locks when = trying >to play the clips.=20 > >I called IBM tech support Friday.Their multimedia group handled the >problem. The guy said that this was not the first time he had heard of >this, and that he had previously tried to figure out the problem but he = had >no idea how to. He said that ActiveMovie was the culprit, and that >uninstalling it never completely removes it. His two suggestions-1)Call >Microsoft (oh boy), or 2)Reformat and reinstall everything.=20 > I'm guessing that you are running Windows 95. We have a machine running Windows 3.1, so my advice may be worth nothing, but... ...I had a problem with MPEG after installing Procomm Plus 3.0 on a Windows 3.1 machine. A problem that took a *long* time to figure out. On a Win 3.1 machine, the MPEG drivers need Win32s, which I had installed correctly. Procomm Plus tried installing its own copy of Win32s over the existing one and trashed it. Its "fixit" script didn't work either. I had to completely uninstall Win32s (which isn't hard *once* you know what to do) and re-install it from scratch. After that, things were fine. I don't know which drivers MPEG uses on a Win95 machine, but there seems to be little doubt the IE installation messed it up. Tom Kustner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 15 18:27:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA133050840; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:27:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02865; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:26:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:19:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02095; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:19:13 -0500 Received: from socks2.raleigh.ibm.com (socks2.raleigh.ibm.com [204.146.167.123]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02076; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:19:00 -0500 Received: from rtpdce03.raleigh.ibm.com by socks2.raleigh.ibm.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/RTP-FW1.0) id AA67030; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:18:14 -0500 Received: from rtpnsi03.raleigh.ibm.com (rtpnsi03.raleigh.ibm.com [9.67.67.109]) by rtpdce03.raleigh.ibm.com (8.7.3/8.7.3/RTP-ral-1.0) with SMTP id SAA30620 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:18:12 -0500 Received: by rtpnsi03.raleigh.ibm.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/4.03) id AA1279; Wed, 15 Jan 97 18:18:41 -0500 Message-Id: <9701152318.AA1279@rtpnsi03.raleigh.ibm.com> Received: from RTPNOTES with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 1D49FF8C1DD2C39585256420007FF65E; Wed, 15 Jan 97 18:18:40 To: thinkpad From: William Stevenson Date: 15 Jan 97 18:18:24 Subject: ThinkPad listserve Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu How can I get my name on your ThinkPad list serve distribution list? Bill Stevenson From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 15 19:08:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA140163328; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:08:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05946; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:08:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:03:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05565; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:03:54 -0500 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05557; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:03:49 -0500 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA04568; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:06:15 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:06:14 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Parker To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: TP 701C & 560 - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Q: Does the IBM Thinkpad 701C scale 320x200 and 320x240 VGA video modes to full screen 640x480 or 640x400? Q: Does the Thinkpad 560 scale VGA 320x200, 320x240 and 640x480 modes up to nearly fill its 800x600 screen? I have a TP560-120 arriving here in the next few days. Where can I get batteries for a reasonable price? It will come with 24MB. Where can I get a good deal on 32MB memory modules for it? I am basically looking for a light general workhorse machine that is also a reasonably good DOS game machine. This kind of specialized info is generally hard to come by, so who better to ask than people who own the machines in question? =) Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 16 00:21:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA203552073; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 00:21:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29946; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 00:20:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 16 Jan 1997 00:15:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29299; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 00:15:26 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29278; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 00:15:19 -0500 Received: from user-37kb94c.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb94c.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.140]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA26380; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 00:13:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199701160513.AAA26380@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Stefan Tilkov" , "thinkpad" Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 00:13:51 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dock I and new (unrelated) question Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What are your power mgt settings. Go to Control Pnl->power and make sure that advance is selected. Then go to device mgr->system devices->APM->and force APM 1.0 mode. If that is the way your system is setup & do the opersite. On 15 Jan 97 12:49:31, Stefan Tilkov wrote: >Thanks for the information about Dock I. (BTW: It really is a Dock I, not a >SelectaDock). > >I found another problem with my machine (TP760EL [no MWAVE] running Win95): >The Win95 sounds (when entering Windows, opening a menu, etc.) work fine until >I manually select stand-by mode from the start menu. When I press Fn, the >machine >comes up alright, but there are no sounds anymore. I dowloaded and installed >a BIOS update and IBM's ESS audio driver, but this changed nothing. > >What am I missing? > >Thanks, >Stefan Tilkov/MLC jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. 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The new ones work ok but there seems to be no sleep mode on my pc card modem when I place the 701C into suspend. The old 16 bit program called power.exe did. The APM is installed and says it's working. Microsoft's Internet Support Wizard library says the 701c supports APM 1.1 but I must be missing something. FYI: by suspend I mean Fn + F4. Anybody have any ideas? B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 16 11:31:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA019322259; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:30:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03524; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:30:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:23:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02625; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:23:20 -0500 Received: from SLEEPY.USU.EDU (sleepy.usu.edu [129.123.1.85]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02618; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:23:07 -0500 Received: from cc.usu.edu by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IE9XSO8V8G9C0NR6@cc.usu.edu>; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:22:40 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:22:40 -0600 (MDT) From: GREG ALVANDIAN Subject: Re: PCMCIA Sleep mode in win95 suspend In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970116010437.006d5f08@rust.net> To: Bill Bryan Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a 701 and I've been having some troubles of my own with the powermanagement. However, I seem to recall reading an IBM document somewhere that explained your problem. Evidently win95 doesn't support the feature you describe so it isn't anything you've done wrong. There is some sort of key combination that will turn off the power to the PC cards, that you can use prior to putting the computer into suspend manually. I'm sorry but I've read so many IBM Win95 txt files lately that I don't recall exactly where I came across that info but if I come across it again I'll post it. By the way, I can't seem to get the little battery Icon on my 701 the box to enable it is grayed out and I have the latest BIOS too. Does the Icon woork for you? On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Bill Bryan wrote: > I have been playing around with the 32 bit Windows 95 pcmcia drivers in > place of my old 16 bit counter parts. The new ones work ok but there seems > to be no sleep mode on my pc card modem when I place the 701C into suspend. > The old 16 bit program called power.exe did. The APM is installed and > says it's working. Microsoft's Internet Support Wizard library says the > 701c supports APM 1.1 but I must be missing something. FYI: by suspend I > mean Fn + F4. Anybody have any ideas? > > B/B > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb > "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- GREGORY ALVANDIAN : Pooh looked at his two paws. He knew that : one of them was the right, and he knew SOCIETY OF AVIATION : that when you had decided which one of MAINTENANCE PROFESSIONALS : them was the right, then the other one was : was the left, but he never could remember UTAH STATE UNIVERSITY : how to begin. slppj@cc.usu.edu : -The Tao of Pooh. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 16 15:04:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA071785070; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 15:04:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19526; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:22:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:17:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18848; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:17:18 -0500 Received: from i-2000.com (root@i-2000.com [204.97.92.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18833; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:16:53 -0500 From: Received: from i-2000.com (mineola28.access1.dh.i-2000.net [206.231.224.60]) by i-2000.com (8.8.4/8.7) with SMTP id OAA25097 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:16:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701161916.OAA25097@i-2000.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 14:15:51 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Warp and PCMCIA problems X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.22 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu After reformatting my Thinkpad 701C HD containing Warp v3.0 and installing Warp v4.0, I wound up with some PCMCIA problems that did not previously exist. Namely, PCMCIA PNP for OS/2 had trouble assigning an IRQ to a PCMCIA modem that worked GREAT in Warp v3.0. Well, I just read the part of the Thinkpad README that says I should have used the Diskette Factory to make some PCMCIA support diskettes, and that I should NOT have chosen to add PCMCIA support during the installation of Warp, and that I should have used the diskettes (that I never created) to add PCMCIA support after OS/2 was installed. So, Now that I installed OS/2 Warp v4.0 WITH PCMCIA support, and since I never created those PCMCIA diskettes from the Diskette Factory before formmating the drive, how am I going to get where I need to be??? OS/2's selective UNinstall does not offer uninstall of PCMCIA support -------------------- Jim Himmelman jhimmel@i-2000.com -------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 16 15:18:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA074215908; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 15:18:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25929; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 15:17:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 16 Jan 1997 15:13:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25367; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 15:13:25 -0500 Received: from mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.143]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25353; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 15:13:19 -0500 Received: from tp560.gsb.columbia.edu (bus205-147.gsb.columbia.edu [128.59.205.147]) by mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA15927 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 15:12:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <32DE6615.3807@columbia.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:32:05 -0500 From: Eric Wong Reply-To: etw3@columbia.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 701C & 560 - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu 560 info: There is a command/function sequence to make standard VGA and 640x480 fit full screen, but it does not look too good (IMHO). I think you will have to judge for yourself, depending on the game you want to play. I play DOS games on my TP560-133 with no problems. I would suggest that you get the newest VESA SVGA drivers from SciTech (previously univesa). You may also consider purchasing a SCSI PC Card with a SCSI CD-ROM for best game play of the newest games. Not sure about a place for memory, but I would suggest sticking with major brands like Kingston and Viking. Regards...Eric Wong. > > Subject: TP 701C & 560 - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:06:14 -0800 > From: Steve Parker > To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" > > Q: Does the IBM Thinkpad 701C scale 320x200 and 320x240 VGA video modes to > full screen 640x480 or 640x400? > > Q: Does the Thinkpad 560 scale VGA 320x200, 320x240 and 640x480 modes > up to nearly fill its 800x600 screen? > > I have a TP560-120 arriving here in the next few days. Where can I get > batteries for a reasonable price? It will come with 24MB. Where can I > get a good deal on 32MB memory modules for it? > > I am basically looking for a light general workhorse machine that is > also a reasonably good DOS game machine. This kind of specialized info > is generally hard to come by, so who better to ask than people who own > the machines in question? =) > > Steve > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 16 19:58:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA127742722; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:58:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21969; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:58:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:51:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21550; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:51:40 -0500 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21543; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:51:37 -0500 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA05835; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 16:54:10 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 16:54:09 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Parker To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701C & 560 - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? In-Reply-To: <32DE6615.3807@columbia.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Eric Wong wrote: > 560 info: > There is a command/function sequence to make standard VGA and 640x480 > fit full screen, but it does not look too good (IMHO). I think you will > have to judge for yourself, depending on the game you want to play. I think Duke Nukem 3D ought to do fine in native 800x600. It runs reasonably fast at that res on my P5-100/512PB cache/64MB home machine, so ought to well enough on a plain P5-120 in the TP-560. I'm more concerned about things like Quake these days. My home machine is a bit weak for the higher res modes and I mainly do 320x200 modes. Scaling it to 640x400 would be a nice and clean way to go. 800x600 is a weird aspect ratio for PC's and isn't easy to scale cleanly. Quake and Duke Nukem 3D both do fine without the CD once they are loaded, so I don't need a fast & portable CD drive right away. > I play DOS games on my TP560-133 with no problems. I would suggest that > you get the newest VESA SVGA drivers from SciTech (previously univesa). I use 'em on my desktop PC. Good stuff. > You may also consider purchasing a SCSI PC Card with a SCSI CD-ROM for > best game play of the newest games. I was planning on getting the Adaptec 1460. I have an external NEC 7 disc double speed changer I can hook it up to here at home until I get a nice portable "discman" style reader. "parallel port" devices are too weak. Though I may get a parallel port Zip drive for all around flexibility. > Not sure about a place for memory, but I would suggest sticking with > major brands like Kingston and Viking. I mainly want to put enough RAM in it to last me a few years. Right at the moment 24MB is right around my "magic threshhold" before a machine performs reasonably well with the stuff I run. The name brand RAM is around $600 and up for 32MB from what I've seen. Five or more times the cost of desktop PC RAM seems ridiculous. Two to three times wouldn't be totally out of line.. Is there a reasonable source for batteries? I need at least one spare. Steve From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 16 22:51:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA151373074; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:51:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05128; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:50:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:46:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04700; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:46:15 -0500 Received: from server1.capaccess.org (server1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04693; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:46:11 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by server1.capaccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA16153 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:43:18 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id WAA23669; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:48:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:48:17 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: Steve Parker Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701C & 560 - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thursday, 16th January 1997, Steve Parker wrote: > My home machine is a bit weak for the higher res modes and I mainly do > 320x200 modes. Scaling it to 640x400 would be a nice and clean way to go. > 800x600 is a weird aspect ratio for PC's and isn't easy to scale cleanly. 640 by 480, 800 by 600, and 1024 by 768 are all 4:3 ratios; what's weird about them? > > I play DOS games on my TP560-133 with no problems. I would suggest that > > you get the newest VESA SVGA drivers from SciTech (previously univesa). > > I use 'em on my desktop PC. Good stuff. I tried to test the latest version of the SDD VESA 2.0 drivers (5.3?) from SciTech on my 701C, but it hangs the machine on setup. (As far as I know, I have the latest video drivers and BIOS from the IBM web site.) Have any 701C users out there gotten it to work on their boxes? Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 16 23:26:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA155755209; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 23:26:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07989; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 23:26:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 16 Jan 1997 23:22:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07492; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 23:22:44 -0500 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07485; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 23:22:40 -0500 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA06039; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 20:25:15 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 20:25:13 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Parker To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701C & 560 - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Christian Carey wrote: > On Thursday, 16th January 1997, Steve Parker wrote: > > > 800x600 is a weird aspect ratio for PC's and isn't easy to scale cleanly. > > 640 by 480, 800 by 600, and 1024 by 768 are all 4:3 ratios; what's weird > about them? It is easier to cleanly multiply a pixel by 2 in each direction [320x200 to 640x400] than it is to multiply by odd numbers. What the heck do you do with the "fractional" pixels when multiplying by 2.5 times in each direction [320x200 ->800x600] or 1.25 times [640x480->800x600]? Do you enlarge some pixels more than others? CRT's don't really care too much about things like this, but an LCD with its precise and fixed pixels make it much more apparent. Though perhaps not quite so much in action games. Now going from 320x240 to 1280x960 would be pretty clean. Though 4x4 pixels would be rather chunky.. =) Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 00:19:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA163758367; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:19:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12840; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:19:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:15:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12406; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:14:59 -0500 Received: from babe.globecomm.net (babe.globecomm.net [207.51.48.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12399; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:14:56 -0500 Received: from asy58.xy1.usu.edu (asy58.xy1.usu.edu [129.123.241.58]) by babe.globecomm.net (8.8.4/8.8.0) with SMTP id AAA06497; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:14:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <32DF18D2.436D@urgentmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:14:42 -0800 From: Greg Alvandian Reply-To: grega@urgentmail.com Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win16; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: jhimmel@i-2000.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Warp and PCMCIA problems References: <199701161916.OAA25097@i-2000.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu jhimmel@i-2000.com wrote: > > After reformatting my Thinkpad 701C HD containing Warp v3.0 and installing > Warp v4.0, I wound up with some PCMCIA problems that did not previously > exist. Namely, PCMCIA PNP for OS/2 had trouble assigning an IRQ to a > PCMCIA modem that worked GREAT in Warp v3.0. > > Well, I just read the part of the Thinkpad README that says I should have > used the Diskette Factory to make some PCMCIA support diskettes, and that > I should NOT have chosen to add PCMCIA support during the installation of > Warp, and that I should have used the diskettes (that I never created) to > add PCMCIA support after OS/2 was installed. > > So, Now that I installed OS/2 Warp v4.0 WITH PCMCIA support, and since I > never created those PCMCIA diskettes from the Diskette Factory before > formmating the drive, how am I going to get where I need to be??? OS/2's > selective UNinstall does not offer uninstall of PCMCIA support > > -------------------- > Jim Himmelman > jhimmel@i-2000.com > -------------------- Jim you're not in as bad a spot as it seems. You can go to IBM's thinkpad support page at this address http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/refs.html Where you should be able to download the diskettes you need. If you do some rooting around there, you should be able to find everything you need and probably more. -- GREG ALVANDIAN : SOCIETY OF AVIATION : MAINTENANCE PROFESSIONALS : UTAH STATE UNIVERSITY : From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 00:37:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA166229470; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:37:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14237; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:37:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:33:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13912; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:33:53 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13906; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:33:51 -0500 Received: from 701c (liv-47.rust.net [206.42.195.147]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.4/8.8.0) with SMTP id AAA27772; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:32:52 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970117003327.006db65c@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 5 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:33:27 -0500 To: GREG ALVANDIAN From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: PCMCIA Sleep mode in win95 suspend Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greg, I found some very cryptic notes that I took a long time ago with IBM tech support. One of the combinations was Fn + F11 then Fn + Enter. I'm not sure yet since testing the various permutations will take some time. What I should do is make up a cable with male and female power plugs and stick an milliampmeter to check the draw on ac power when in suspend. The 16 bit PCMCIA drivers, along with power.exe would cause a small chirp from the speaker before full suspend. I assume this was the sleep signal. If I removed power.exe the chirp is missing and the drain is back. I have looked around IBM's web site but have not found anything yet. This just seems like such a blatant oversight. Microsoft claims APM 1.1 on the 701 but this doesn't sound very "Advanced" to me. Regarding the battery icon and I assume you are referring to the small one on the right side of the menu bar, mine is a blue battery with red plus and minus signs on it. The amount of blue becomes less as the battery discharges. The battery becomes a ac line plug when being powered by wall current. In the control panel under power, I have the "Enable power meter on task bar" checked. Power management set to "advanced". Also under system properties under system is APM support showing? If so under properties the only thing that I have checked is "Enable power management support" everything else is unchecked. If you still have problems you might try reinstalling win95 making sure that APM is selected. At 09:22 AM 1/16/97 -0600, you wrote: > >I have a 701 and I've been having some troubles of my own with the >powermanagement. However, I seem to recall reading an IBM document >somewhere that explained your problem. Evidently win95 doesn't support >the feature you describe so it isn't anything you've done wrong. There >is some sort of key combination that will turn off the power to the PC >cards, that you can use prior to putting the computer into suspend >manually. I'm sorry but I've read so many IBM Win95 txt files lately >that I don't recall exactly where I came across that info but if I come >across it again I'll post it. >By the way, I can't seem to get the little battery Icon on my 701 the box >to enable it is grayed out and I have the latest BIOS too. Does the >Icon work for you? > >On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Bill Bryan wrote: > >> I have been playing around with the 32 bit Windows 95 pcmcia drivers in >> place of my old 16 bit counter parts. The new ones work ok but there seems >> to be no sleep mode on my pc card modem when I place the 701C into suspend. >> The old 16 bit program called power.exe did. The APM is installed and >> says it's working. Microsoft's Internet Support Wizard library says the >> 701c supports APM 1.1 but I must be missing something. FYI: by suspend I >> mean Fn + F4. Anybody have any ideas? >> >> B/B >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb >> "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> >> >> > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >GREGORY ALVANDIAN : Pooh looked at his two paws. He knew that > : one of them was the right, and he knew >SOCIETY OF AVIATION : that when you had decided which one of >MAINTENANCE PROFESSIONALS : them was the right, then the other one was > : was the left, but he never could remember >UTAH STATE UNIVERSITY : how to begin. >slppj@cc.usu.edu : -The Tao of Pooh. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 00:43:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA167119794; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:43:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14761; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:43:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:39:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14365; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:39:06 -0500 Received: from gosensgo (gosensgo.brit.ca [207.134.28.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14359; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:39:03 -0500 Received: from gosensgo (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gosensgo (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id AAA00148 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:42:23 -0500 Sender: root@gosensgo Message-Id: <32DF113F.18AA83E@brit.ca> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:42:23 -0500 From: Trevor Boicey Organization: BRIT Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Typical 701C battery life? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What would a typical battery life be like on the 701C? In my experiments, I got about 40 minutes running Linux with no power saving features enabled and using the modem the entire time. This sounds semi-reasonable. Where I find it strange is I was running Win95 the other day, and the battery meter was going very very slowly. Drive was spun down, and the battery meter seemed like it was going to go forever. But then with the meter still reading 60% and over one hour left, it started beeping and the win95 warning requestor popped up, and then it suspended. Would these be the symptoms of a dying battery? -- -----------------------------------------Ottawa-Canada-GOSENSGO------ Trevor Boicey 1992 Celica GT 1975 MG Midget tboicey@brit.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 01:27:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA172672463; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:27:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17144; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:27:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:23:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16790; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:23:23 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16780; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:23:20 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id BAA23201; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:27:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:27:04 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: Steve Parker Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701C & 560 - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thursday, 16th January 1997, Steve Parker wrote: > > > 800x600 is a weird aspect ratio for PC's and isn't easy to scale > > > cleanly. > > > > 640 by 480, 800 by 600, and 1024 by 768 are all 4:3 ratios; what's > > weird about them? > > It is easier to cleanly multiply a pixel by 2 in each direction > [320x200 to 640x400] than it is to multiply by odd numbers. What > the heck do you do with the "fractional" pixels when multiplying by > 2.5 times in each direction [320x200 ->800x600] or 1.25 times > [640x480->800x600]? Do you enlarge some pixels more than others? I didn't claim that the 4:3 ratios scale cleanly; I simply asked about their alleged weirdness. But a possible answer to your question is to scale a 320 by 200 display to the center 640 by 400 portion of the screen in question, leaving the remainders black: e.g., let the top 40 and bottom 40 pixels remain black on a 640 by 480 screen, and let the top 100, bottom 100, left 80, and right 80 pixels remain black on a 800 by 600 screen. On a 1024 by 768 screen, the 320 by 200 could be scaled to 960 by 600, leaving the top 84, bottom 84, left 32, and right 32 pixels black. > Make no laws whatever concerning speech... As long as people are offended by frank speech (e.g. English "four-letter words"), there will be laws made concerning speech. :*( -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 01:40:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA174193211; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:40:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18032; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:40:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:36:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17770; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:35:58 -0500 Received: from ts1.netpathway.com (root@ts1.netpathway.com [208.137.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17763; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:35:54 -0500 Received: from egiles (port15.netpathway.com [208.137.139.30]) by ts1.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA30606 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:35:50 -0600 Message-Id: <199701170635.AAA30606@ts1.netpathway.com> From: "Eric Giles" To: "ThinkPad mailing list" Subject: Re: TP 701C & 560 - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:34:38 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've tried SDD 5.3 and 5.2 on my 701C, but they also caused my machine to lock during the detection phase. I can verify that SDD 5.3 works fine on my 760ED though. My 701C also has the latest BIOS and video drivers installed. It also seems that some of the Display Doctor upgrades are more 'downgrades' for some machines. I was using a Zenith Z-STAR EX laptop that worked fine with SDD 5.2, but would lock up with 5.3. Go figure. Just a note on Quake-my 760ED will not allow a higher resolution than 320x400(?) with Quake. But I would suggest that anyone wanting to play a game such as this with a higher resolution should use a dedicated 3D card to play it with an acceptable frame rate. Just my $.02 Eric Giles > > I play DOS games on my TP560-133 with no problems. I would suggest that > > you get the newest VESA SVGA drivers from SciTech (previously univesa). > > I use 'em on my desktop PC. Good stuff. >I tried to test the latest version of the SDD VESA 2.0 drivers (5.3?) from >SciTech on my 701C, but it hangs the machine on setup. (As far as I know, >I have the latest video drivers and BIOS from the IBM web site.) Have any >701C users out there gotten it to work on their boxes? >Christian. >-- >Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 04:31:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA196233483; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 04:31:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA01357; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 04:31:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 04:26:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00763; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 04:26:28 -0500 Received: from enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00757; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 04:26:25 -0500 Received: (qmail 23625 invoked from network); 17 Jan 1997 09:26:20 -0000 Received: from isaiah-25.d.enteract.com (206.54.253.104) by babel.enteract.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 1997 09:26:20 -0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Windows95 OSR2 and Thinkpads? Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:29:42 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32e845b6.125095857@smtp.enteract.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone upgraded a Thinkpad to the new Windows 95? The Mini-FAQ I found on the web states (uncertainly) it doesn't work with previous Thinkpad models, and I was thinking of trying it out on my 701. Anyone tried it yet? epbrown=20 epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 05:28:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA201616895; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:28:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA09424; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:28:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:23:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA07960; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:23:47 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA07947; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:23:45 -0500 Received: from pentium-166 (borg.mindspring.com [204.180.128.14]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id FAA31802; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:23:40 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970117102341.00697018@atl.mindspring.com> X-Sender: rchalk@atl.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:23:41 -0500 To: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) From: Richard Chalk Subject: Re: Windows95 OSR2 and Thinkpads? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have it installed on a 760ED...the only problem I had was that after Partitioning and formatting the HD in FAT32, the machine refused to let me install the CD-ROM driver diskette (DOS) so that I could install the Windows95 OSR2 from CD. I copied the CD driver files and config.sys and autoexec.bat commands manually onto the HD, and then it installed OK. You need the HIMEM.SYS file, and the Device=HIMEM.SYS also on the HD, since it runs a version of SCANDISK that requires it at the beginning of install. Depending on the particular machine, note any peculiarities from IBM. For example, on the 760ED it is necessary to go with Custom Install, and remove the S3 Video device drivers from the list of equipment. This was true in the original W95 as well. All of the IBM drivers and features installed without difficulty. Regards, Richard At 09:29 AM 1/17/97 GMT, you wrote: > Has anyone upgraded a Thinkpad to the new Windows 95? The Mini-FAQ I >found on the web states (uncertainly) it doesn't work with previous >Thinkpad models, and I was thinking of trying it out on my 701. Anyone >tried it yet? > epbrown >epbrown@enteract.com >Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ >http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 06:01:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA205828864; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:01:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA13274; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:00:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:56:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA12815; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:56:16 -0500 Received: from mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov (root@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov [157.132.103.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA12809; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:56:11 -0500 Received: from freke.ssds.com (freke.mcmurdo.gov [157.132.106.108]) by mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov (8.8.2/8.8.0) with SMTP id KAA24340 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:57:15 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970117235458.006843a8@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov> X-Pgp-Keyid-Fprnt: 37DDC209 - E00F1697 3316F0DD 41B6BCAF 2031ACFC X-Pgp: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/htbin/pks-extract-key.pl?op=get&search=0x37DDC209 X-Sender: cds@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:56:00 +1300 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Chris Liljenstolpe Subject: APM and Win95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greetings, I have a TP 755CE running Loose95 :) and I want to prevent windows 95 from turning off my machine automatically. I can't find a setting under win95 to do it (I have even turned off APM and it still get's powered off - and I don't want to loose APM). I think I vaguely recall this can be done with a ps2 command line. I can not find my documents for PS2 - does anyone remember off the top of their head if and how this is possible? -+Chris -- Chris Liljenstolpe, ASA - McMurdo Network Engineer Work 165/NOC, Tel X-2253, Pager #502 Res. 209/321, Tel X-2673 mailto:cds@mcmurdo.gov mailto:cds@mcmsun5 http://www.io.com/~cds/ PGP Key 2047/37DDC209 E0 0F 16 97 33 16 F0 DD 41 B6 BC AF 20 31 AC FC From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 06:08:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA206309305; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:08:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14120; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:08:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:04:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA13648; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:04:09 -0500 Received: from sisyphus.cs.kun.nl (sisyphus.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA13639; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:04:04 -0500 Received: from atlas by sisyphus.cs.kun.nl via atlas.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.42] with SMTP for id MAA25498 (8.8.4/3.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:04:00 +0100 (MET) Sender: mauricek@cs.kun.nl Message-Id: <32DF5CA0.167EB0E7@cs.kun.nl> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:04:00 +0100 From: Maurice klein Gebbinck Organization: University of Nijmegen, Computing Science Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: APM and Win95 References: <3.0.32.19970117235458.006843a8@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Chris Liljenstolpe wrote: [snip] > I can not find my documents for PS2 - does anyone > remember off the top of their head if and how this is possible? Maybe you accidently threw them away with your old newspapers? ;-) -- Maurice klein Gebbinck University of Nijmegen, Computing Science Institute Toernooiveld 1, 6525 ED Nijmegen, The Netherlands From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 06:21:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA207920110; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:21:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA15505; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:21:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:17:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14990; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:17:49 -0500 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14984; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:17:42 -0500 Received: from ar-laptop.tic.ch (ar-laptop.tic.ch [193.193.146.112]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA13081; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:19:46 +0100 (MET) Received: by ar-laptop.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BC0401.C7B77A20@ar-laptop.tic.ch>; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 23:05:35 +-100 Message-Id: <01BC0401.C7B77A20@ar-laptop.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'Steve Parker'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: TP 701C & 560 - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:54:31 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Steve, Regarding your question on memory, I got memory for my 701CS a few months ago from Memory Experts in London (based in Richmond) who are the UK distributors of CANRAM in Canada. Alas I've lost phone numbers and addresses, but I've had no problems with this memory. Their prices were very keen - and not every memory supplier has modules for a 701... I did try ringing www.thechipmerchant.com - they have a phone number on their web page, but after spending a lot of money just being 'held' on their telephone system I gave up. I know thechipmerchant is popular on this list. cheers, Andrew. ---------- From: Steve Parker[SMTP:sparker@morgana.punk.net] Sent: Mittwoch, 15. Januar 1997 17:06 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 701C & 560 - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? Q: Does the IBM Thinkpad 701C scale 320x200 and 320x240 VGA video modes to full screen 640x480 or 640x400? Q: Does the Thinkpad 560 scale VGA 320x200, 320x240 and 640x480 modes up to nearly fill its 800x600 screen? I have a TP560-120 arriving here in the next few days. Where can I get batteries for a reasonable price? It will come with 24MB. Where can I get a good deal on 32MB memory modules for it? I am basically looking for a light general workhorse machine that is also a reasonably good DOS game machine. This kind of specialized info is generally hard to come by, so who better to ask than people who own the machines in question? =) Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 08:32:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA221997937; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:32:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23545; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:32:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:27:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23177; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:27:15 -0500 Received: from gwa.ericsson.com (gwa.ericsson.com [198.215.127.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23157; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:27:11 -0500 Received: from mr1.exu.ericsson.se (mr1.exu.ericsson.com [138.85.147.11]) by gwa.ericsson.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id HAA16244 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 07:26:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (screamer.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.133.13]) by mr1.exu.ericsson.se (8.7.1/NAHUB-MR1.1) with SMTP id HAA25090 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 07:26:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from rpc1331.rtp.ericsson.se (pc257.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.136.2]) by screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id IAA29467 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:26:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199701171326.IAA29467@screamer.rtp.ericsson.se> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Brett Pantalone" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:28:57 -0005 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Win95 APM Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am running Win95 with APM enabled on my 755CE. Also, my config.sys file lists C:/DOS/POWER.EXE in the list of drivers to be loaded. Should this driver really be loaded, since Win95 is running APM? -- Brett Pantalone Staff Engineer, Ericsson Inc. pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 08:38:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA222308308; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:38:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24305; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:38:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:34:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23875; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:34:32 -0500 Received: from gwa.ericsson.com (gwa.ericsson.com [198.215.127.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23868; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:34:29 -0500 Received: from mr1.exu.ericsson.se (mr1.exu.ericsson.com [138.85.147.11]) by gwa.ericsson.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id HAA16524 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 07:33:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (screamer.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.133.13]) by mr1.exu.ericsson.se (8.7.1/NAHUB-MR1.1) with SMTP id HAA25231 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 07:33:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from rpc1331.rtp.ericsson.se (pc257.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.136.2]) by screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id IAA29666 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:33:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199701171333.IAA29666@screamer.rtp.ericsson.se> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Brett Pantalone" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:36:13 -0005 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: APM and Win95 Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970117235458.006843a8@mcmvxb.mcmurdo.gov> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I have a TP 755CE running Loose95 :) and I want to prevent windows 95 from > turning off my machine automatically. I can't find a setting under win95 Chris, What exactly do you mean? I am running Win95 on the same machine. APM only turns my machine off when I select "shut down" from the start menu. You can select "restart in MS-DOS mode" to exit Win95 without turning off the power. -- Brett Pantalone Staff Engineer, Ericsson Inc. pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 09:02:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA225209741; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:02:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26949; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:02:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:58:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26444; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:57:57 -0500 Received: from gwa.ericsson.com (gwa.ericsson.com [198.215.127.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26434; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:57:51 -0500 Received: from mr1.exu.ericsson.se (mr1.exu.ericsson.com [138.85.147.11]) by gwa.ericsson.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id HAA16180 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 07:21:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (screamer.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.133.13]) by mr1.exu.ericsson.se (8.7.1/NAHUB-MR1.1) with SMTP id HAA25042 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 07:21:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from rpc1331.rtp.ericsson.se (pc257.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.136.2]) by screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id IAA29343 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:21:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199701171321.IAA29343@screamer.rtp.ericsson.se> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Brett Pantalone" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:24:09 -0005 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: TP 701C & 560 - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? Priority: normal References: <32DE6615.3807@columbia.edu> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I mainly want to put enough RAM in it to last me a few years. Right at > the moment 24MB is right around my "magic threshhold" before a machine > performs reasonably well with the stuff I run. The name brand RAM is > around $600 and up for 32MB from what I've seen. Five or more times the > cost of desktop PC RAM seems ridiculous. Two to three times wouldn't be > totally out of line.. Steve, Last November I bought a 16 MB DRAM card for my 755CE from the following source. The salesperson/president was extremely helpful, gave me a good price, and the product arrived on time and in working order. I was very satisfied. Adam Rude, President ERUDITE PRODUCTS CORP. 409 Grand Avenue Englewood, NJ 07631-5715 TEL: 800/310-8505 (US ONLY) TEL: 201/871-7088 FAX: 201/871-8301 EMAIL: sales@epc-online.com WWW: http://www.epc-online.com HOURS: 8:30AM - 5:30PM EDT [Mon-Fri] -- Brett Pantalone Staff Engineer, Ericsson Inc. pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 09:49:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA230802580; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:49:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01515; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:49:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:44:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00940; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:44:05 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00933; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:44:03 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95l.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95l.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.181]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA27828; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:41:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199701171441.JAA27828@mule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "jhimmel@i-2000.com" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 09:41:34 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Warp and PCMCIA problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm not sure about uninstalling PCMCIA support but the os2 drivers are on IBM's WEB site. On Thu, 16 Jan 97 14:15:51, jhimmel@i-2000.com wrote: >After reformatting my Thinkpad 701C HD containing Warp v3.0 and installing >Warp v4.0, I wound up with some PCMCIA problems that did not previously >exist. Namely, PCMCIA PNP for OS/2 had trouble assigning an IRQ to a >PCMCIA modem that worked GREAT in Warp v3.0. > >Well, I just read the part of the Thinkpad README that says I should have >used the Diskette Factory to make some PCMCIA support diskettes, and that >I should NOT have chosen to add PCMCIA support during the installation of >Warp, and that I should have used the diskettes (that I never created) to >add PCMCIA support after OS/2 was installed. > >So, Now that I installed OS/2 Warp v4.0 WITH PCMCIA support, and since I >never created those PCMCIA diskettes from the Diskette Factory before >formmating the drive, how am I going to get where I need to be??? OS/2's >selective UNinstall does not offer uninstall of PCMCIA support > >-------------------- >Jim Himmelman >jhimmel@i-2000.com >-------------------- > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 10:34:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA237415259; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:34:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06629; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:33:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:29:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06127; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:29:29 -0500 Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06116; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:29:24 -0500 Received: from homer35.u.washington.edu (homer35.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.18]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA04266 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 07:25:24 -0800 Received: from localhost (mjk@localhost) by homer35.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA274422 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 07:29:16 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 07:29:16 -0800 (PST) From: Myoung-Jun Kim To: thinkpad Subject: Greeting from new 701C user Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I just got 701C, and subscribed this mailing list. The subscription notificaton recommends me to introduce my machine. It's 701C, DX4/75, 24M, 540M. I also have a noname NE4100 PCMCIA ethernet card. I bought a used machine. The seller said it 4-months old. But, it dosn't look like that. I have several things to bothering me. Hearing experience from other 701 owner would be appreciated. (1) The left half of the body is slightly bent, and it makes a gap to the keyboard. The keyboard is benting down when typing, so the typing feels bad. The parts of the case are loosen especially around the left joint of the screen lid. Seem the butterfly gives a heavy stress to the body. The body of 701 seems weak. Dose anyboy have a similar problem ? (2) The battery lamp dosn't work. Just keeps off. (3) The brightness control dosn't work. The level meter shows up & working, but I can't see any difference in the screen. (4) What is usual battery life ? The gas meter says 2:22 after full charge. But, I can hardly stand over 2 hours even with turning HDD off. Is it normal ? (5) Windows 95 crashes after suspend/resume. (6) Most annoying thing. The TFT screen has 11 bad-pixel. Sigh. Can I replace using warranty program ? (7) I heard about good service of IBM. Can I fixed all of the my problem using the warranty? Also, PCMCIA cover is missing. Where can I get one ? Is it expensive ? I like this cute machine. But, I am suffering from used machine. Thinking of never taking a deal on usenet... BTW, is there a 701-specific mailing list or FAQ ? Thanks From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 10:57:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA240456650; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:57:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09808; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:56:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:53:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09420; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:52:59 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09241; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:52:10 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA16035; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:51:09 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199701171551.KAA16035@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Windows95 OSR2 and Thinkpads? To: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:51:08 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <32e845b6.125095857@smtp.enteract.com> from "epbrown" at Jan 17, 97 09:29:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Has anyone upgraded a Thinkpad to the new Windows 95? The Mini-FAQ I > found on the web states (uncertainly) it doesn't work with previous > Thinkpad models, and I was thinking of trying it out on my 701. Anyone > tried it yet? I've been running OSR2 on my 760C for several months (using FAT32 on a 1.3 gig hard drive). No real problems, although I seem to recall a few minor installation glitches. The glitches which come to mind: - the DOS-based installation programs were unable to install to the FAT32 partition. - the ThinkPad PCMCIA drivers for Win95 don't seem to install properly; I don't see any visible ramifications, though. - I get an MWAVE assertion error when resuming from suspend. I don't know if this is OSR2 specific or not; I haven't taken the time to track this down in any more detail. - you can't create a hibernation file on a FAT32 partition. In retrospect, I would have left a small part of my drive as non-FAT32, which would help alleviate a couple of these problems. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 13:08:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA260654501; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:08:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22960; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:08:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:01:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22376; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:01:13 -0500 Received: from user2.mnsinc.com (user2.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22365; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:01:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (wheeless@localhost) by user2.mnsinc.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id MAA14700; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:43:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:43:44 -0500 (EST) From: Karen Wheeless To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701C Ni-Cd Battery? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dear List: I have a 701C that I purchased new a little over a year ago (when they were discontinuing the line). Everything's worked great for me until recently. In the last couple of months I've found that while the onboard battery will say the fully-charged battery should operate for an hour and 45 or 50 minutes - it will actually conk out after about 30 minutes. Is this just the inevitable battery wear out? Or is there likely to be some other problem. I've always fully discahreged the battery before recharging (per IBM instructions) and got close to 2 hours off a fully charged battery for the first 10 months of owning the computer. If this is just an inevitable battery wear-out can I replace the existing Ni-Cd battery with one of the newer NIMH batteries or do I have to find a Ni-Cd? Thanks for your help, Karen Wheeless wheeless@mnsinc.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 13:42:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA267266526; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:42:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26288; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:41:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:36:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25821; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:36:46 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25801; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:36:40 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id NAA29214; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:38:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:38:01 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" Reply-To: "John H. Kim" To: Karen Wheeless Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C Ni-Cd Battery? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Karen Wheeless wrote: > I have a 701C that I purchased new a little over a year ago (when they > were discontinuing the line). Everything's worked great for me until >... > > If this is just an inevitable battery wear-out can I replace the existing > Ni-Cd battery with one of the newer NIMH batteries or do I have to find a > Ni-Cd? All 701 owners should note that the 701 can take both NiCd and NiMH batteries. If you have battery-related information or problems, please be sure to identify which type of battery you're talking about. Generally, the 701's NiMH batteries seem to cause much less grief than the NiCd. They last longer too (around 3 hours for mine). IBM claims the 701's NiMH is designed to avoid the high discharge rate other NiMHs have, and to my experience this has been true (I've got a spare that's sat for over a month holding nearly a full charge). The downside of this is that they recommend you not discharge it (the NiMH) fully as that can degrade its capacity. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 15:23:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA286732611; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:23:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09713; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:23:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:16:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08753; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:16:18 -0500 Received: from dogbert.ipa.net (root@dogbert.ipa.net [205.218.170.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08716; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:15:57 -0500 Received: from ironhand (pool-45.ftsm.ipa.net [207.2.197.45]) by dogbert.ipa.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA18531; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:15:19 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199701172015.OAA18531@dogbert.ipa.net> From: "Robert W. King" To: "epbrown" , Subject: Re: Windows95 OSR2 and Thinkpads? Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:12:05 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi! I've been running Win95 on my 701CS for some months now. It works just fine. However, you will want to go to IBM Internet site and download the Flash BIOS upgrade before you install Win95. I believe I recall some pretty explicit instructions on how to go about it on the site as well Robert W. King I'm an ingenieur, NOT a bloody locomotive driver. SnailNet: 19023 TV Tower Rd, Winslow, AR 72959 BellNet: 501-634-2086 InterNet: rwking@ipa.net ---------- From: epbrown To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Windows95 OSR2 and Thinkpads? Date: Friday, January 17, 1997 03:29 Has anyone upgraded a Thinkpad to the new Windows 95? The Mini-FAQ I found on the web states (uncertainly) it doesn't work with previous Thinkpad models, and I was thinking of trying it out on my 701. Anyone tried it yet? epbrown epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown ---------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 18:03:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA016212211; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:03:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27567; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:03:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 17:52:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26326; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 17:52:36 -0500 Received: from wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (wdl1.wdl.lmco.com [137.249.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26311; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 17:52:33 -0500 Received: from conic.lmco.com by wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (SMI-8.6/WDL-5.0) id OAA17439; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:51:49 -0800 Message-Id: <32E002FE.409F@conic.lmco.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:53:50 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Organization: Lockheed Martin Conic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: epbrown Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows95 OSR2 and Thinkpads? References: <32e845b6.125095857@smtp.enteract.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu epbrown wrote: > > Has anyone upgraded a Thinkpad to the new Windows 95? The Mini-FAQ I > found on the web states (uncertainly) it doesn't work with previous > Thinkpad models, and I was thinking of trying it out on my 701. Anyone > tried it yet? I am using OSR2 with my TP760E just fine. The only problem I found is that you cannot use the hibernate feature on a FAT32 formatted drive. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 20:33:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA034211217; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:33:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04101; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:33:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:31:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03705; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:31:20 -0500 Received: from email.healthplan.com ([159.113.200.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03613; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:31:08 -0500 From: Received: from NetWare MHS (SMF71) by email.healthplan.com via Connect2-SMTP 4.00; Fri, 17 Jan 97 20:39:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9BE5DF3281423A7C@email.healthplan.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 20:39:44 -0500 Sender: wpuser%gwise.hpsi{HPSI.TAMPA:Ggarrison}@healthplan.com Organization: HealthPlan Services, Inc. To: mjk@u.washington.edu, postmaster@healthplan.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Greeting from new 701C user -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.00 MHS to SMTP Gateway Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I recall reading somewhere that the brightness will have no effect on TFT and this is to be expected. Mine is a 701CS (dual-scan: draws less power and can't be read by the passenger on your side in the airplane) and the brightness is adjustable. >>> peckham@netcom.com (Peckham Engineering) 01/17/97 07:58pm >>> Hi, I also have a 701c regarding your questions-- __________________ peckham@netcom.com On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Myoung-Jun Kim wrote: > I have several things to bothering me. Hearing experience from other 701 > owner would be appreciated. > > (1) The left half of the body is slightly bent, and it makes a gap to the > keyboard. The keyboard is benting down when typing, so the typing feels > bad. The parts of the case are loosen especially around the left joint of > the screen lid. Seem the butterfly gives a heavy stress to the body. The > body of 701 seems weak. Dose anyboy have a similar problem ? No, mine is quite flat and tight. Perhaps it is much more used than four months? > (2) The battery lamp dosn't work. Just keeps off. Maybe the LED is bad. > > (3) The brightness control dosn't work. The level meter shows up & > working, but I can't see any difference in the screen. Mine has no effect either. Not sure if it is a problem or just the way the TFT screen works. > > (4) What is usual battery life ? The gas meter says 2:22 after full > charge. But, I can hardly stand over 2 hours even with turning HDD off. > Is it normal ? What kind of battery? Nicads have shorter life than NiMH. My NiMH batteries get about three hours. > > (5) Windows 95 crashes after suspend/resume. I did a clean install with latest bios, and have had no troubles. > > (6) Most annoying thing. The TFT screen has 11 bad-pixel. Sigh. Can I > replace using warranty program ? > > (7) I heard about good service of IBM. Can I fixed all of the my problem > using the warranty? Also, PCMCIA cover is missing. Where can I get one ? > Is it expensive ? Never sent mine in, so can't help. > > I like this cute machine. But, I am suffering from used machine. > Thinking of never taking a deal on usenet... > > BTW, is there a 701-specific mailing list or FAQ ? > > Thanks Think this is it. Sorry your used machine is not quite what you wanted. I really like my 701, and find it very portable unlike some of the more powerful machines. -Frank From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 20:51:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA036292269; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:51:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06483; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:51:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:48:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05890; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:48:09 -0500 Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05883; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:48:06 -0500 Received: from jim.dhs.com ([198.69.202.22]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.8.4/8.8.4/ler-0117-1427) with SMTP id TAA14458; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:47:51 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <32E02C23.42CB@cyberramp.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:49:23 -0600 From: Jim X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "wpuser%gwise.hpsi{HPSI.TAMPA:Ggarrison}"@healthplan.com Cc: mjk@u.washington.edu, postmaster@healthplan.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Greeting from new 701C user -Reply References: <9BE5DF3281423A7C@email.healthplan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You might not be aware that the 701 only charges the battery when it is on or in suspend. The charging led will be off when the laptop is off or in hibernation because the battery is not being charged. Silly, but true. Jim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 20:56:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA036602584; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:56:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07238; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:56:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:53:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06702; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:53:50 -0500 Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06696; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:53:47 -0500 Received: from jim.dhs.com ([198.69.202.22]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.8.4/8.8.4/ler-0117-1427) with SMTP id TAA15081; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:53:43 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <32E02D83.6197@cyberramp.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:55:15 -0600 From: Jim X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: jmcghee@cyberramp.net Subject: Re: Greeting from new 701C user -Reply References: <9BE5DF3281423A7C@email.healthplan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You might not be aware that the 701 only charges the battery when it is on or in suspend. The charging led will be off when the laptop is off or in hibernation because the battery is not being charged. Silly, but true. Jim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 21:10:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA037953402; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:10:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08779; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:09:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:08:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08595; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:08:15 -0500 Received: from mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.143]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08589; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:08:13 -0500 Received: from tp560 (dialup-22-2.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.47.86]) by mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA22813 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:08:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <32E00AF5.7CA6@columbia.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:27:49 -0500 From: Eric Wong Reply-To: etw3@columbia.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701C & 560 - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry, Steve but you are out-of-date on the 560 memory prices. I am not sure if this is the best price, but I know that NECX has the 16MB DIMM for under $200. When I bought my Viking Memory in August, I paid around $270. So again, I would suggest sticking with named brands. Eric. > > Subject: Re: TP 701C & 560 - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? > Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 16:54:09 -0800 > From: Steve Parker > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Eric Wong wrote: > > > 560 info: > > There is a command/function sequence to make standard VGA and 640x480 > > fit full screen, but it does not look too good (IMHO). I think you will > > have to judge for yourself, depending on the game you want to play. > > I think Duke Nukem 3D ought to do fine in native 800x600. It runs > reasonably fast at that res on my P5-100/512PB cache/64MB home machine, so > ought to well enough on a plain P5-120 in the TP-560. I'm more concerned > about things like Quake these days. My home machine is a bit weak for > the higher res modes and I mainly do 320x200 modes. Scaling it to > 640x400 would be a nice and clean way to go. 800x600 is a weird aspect > ratio for PC's and isn't easy to scale cleanly. > > Quake and Duke Nukem 3D both do fine without the CD once they are > loaded, so I don't need a fast & portable CD drive right away. > > > I play DOS games on my TP560-133 with no problems. I would suggest that > > you get the newest VESA SVGA drivers from SciTech (previously univesa). > > I use 'em on my desktop PC. Good stuff. > > > You may also consider purchasing a SCSI PC Card with a SCSI CD-ROM for > > best game play of the newest games. > > I was planning on getting the Adaptec 1460. I have an external NEC 7 > disc double speed changer I can hook it up to here at home until I get a > nice portable "discman" style reader. "parallel port" devices are too > weak. Though I may get a parallel port Zip drive for all around flexibility. > > > Not sure about a place for memory, but I would suggest sticking with > > major brands like Kingston and Viking. > > I mainly want to put enough RAM in it to last me a few years. Right at > the moment 24MB is right around my "magic threshhold" before a machine > performs reasonably well with the stuff I run. The name brand RAM is > around $600 and up for 32MB from what I've seen. Five or more times the > cost of desktop PC RAM seems ridiculous. Two to three times wouldn't be > totally out of line.. > > Is there a reasonable source for batteries? I need at least one spare. > > Steve > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 21:19:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA039413994; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:19:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09869; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:19:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:18:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09678; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:17:59 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09672; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:17:55 -0500 Received: from 701c (liv-54.rust.net [206.42.195.154]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.4/8.8.0) with SMTP id VAA25140; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:16:51 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970117211724.006e4f0c@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 5 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:17:24 -0500 To: Myoung-Jun Kim , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: Greeting from new 701C user Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 07:29 AM 1/17/97 -0800, you wrote: >Hello, > >I just got 701C, and subscribed this mailing list. The subscription >notificaton recommends me to introduce my machine. It's 701C, DX4/75, 24M, >540M. I also have a noname NE4100 PCMCIA ethernet card. I bought a used >machine. The seller said it 4-months old. But, it dosn't look like that. > >I have several things to bothering me. Hearing experience from other 701 >owner would be appreciated. > >(1) The left half of the body is slightly bent, and it makes a gap to the >keyboard. The keyboard is benting down when typing, so the typing feels >bad. The parts of the case are loosen especially around the left joint of >the screen lid. Seem the butterfly gives a heavy stress to the body. The >body of 701 seems weak. Dose anyboy have a similar problem ? > >(2) The battery lamp dosn't work. Just keeps off. The battery only charges when on, stand-by or suspend mode only. Does not recharge when off or hibernate. > >(3) The brightness control dosn't work. The level meter shows up & >working, but I can't see any difference in the screen. > The brightness control has limited range. >(4) What is usual battery life ? The gas meter says 2:22 after full >charge. But, I can hardly stand over 2 hours even with turning HDD off. >Is it normal ? > With a NiCd, 2 hours is tops. The NiMH is a much better battery which will give you about 2.5 hours. >(5) Windows 95 crashes after suspend/resume. > Your flash ROM bios may need to be up-graded. Current level is 3O. If your system is crashing, you may be before 3H. >(6) Most annoying thing. The TFT screen has 11 bad-pixel. Sigh. Can I >replace using warranty program ? > That may be too many. But I don't know. >(7) I heard about good service of IBM. Can I fixed all of the my problem >using the warranty? Also, PCMCIA cover is missing. Where can I get one ? >Is it expensive ? > You can buy another cover but be ready for a small shock. It's not $0.75. >I like this cute machine. But, I am suffering from used machine. >Thinking of never taking a deal on usenet... > >BTW, is there a 701-specific mailing list or FAQ ? > Your on it... >Thanks > > B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jan 17 22:00:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA045236420; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:00:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16986; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:26:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:20:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16332; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:20:38 -0500 Received: from fabius.globecomm.net (fabius.globecomm.net [207.51.48.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16300; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:20:32 -0500 Received: from asy23.xy1.usu.edu (asy23.xy1.usu.edu [129.123.241.23]) by fabius.globecomm.net (8.8.4/8.8.0) with SMTP id QAA12806; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:00:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <32DFF676.1834@urgentmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:00:22 -0800 From: Greg Alvandian Reply-To: grega@urgentmail.com Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win16; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Karen Wheeless Cc: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 701C Ni-Cd Battery? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've always fully discahreged the battery before recharging (per IBM = instructions) and got close to 2 hours off a fully charged battery for = the first 10 months of owning the computer. Uh Oh. there's part of the problem. The IBM manual doesn't instruct you too fully discharge your batteries before charging, infact it says just the opposite. Page 69n of the users manula says, =DCnlike some battery packs, the TP 701C/701CS battery pack contains advanced technology batteries so you don't need to fully discharge the battery pack before you recharge it. In fact, forcing a complete discharge can actually reduce battery pack life." I now have the NiMh batteries in my 701CS and it seems to last much longer and the shelf life isn't too bad if I don't use them for a while. = -- = GREG ALVANDIAN : = SOCIETY OF AVIATION : MAINTENANCE PROFESSIONALS : UTAH STATE UNIVERSITY : From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jan 17 22:05:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046586739; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:05:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02238; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:22:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:17:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01122; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:17:09 -0500 Received: from netcom16.netcom.com (root@netcom16.netcom.com [192.100.81.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01116; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:17:06 -0500 Received: (from peckham@localhost) by netcom16.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id QAA29552; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:58:28 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:58:27 -0800 (PST) From: Peckham Engineering Subject: Re: Greeting from new 701C user To: Myoung-Jun Kim Cc: thinkpad In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I also have a 701c regarding your questions-- __________________ peckham@netcom.com On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Myoung-Jun Kim wrote: > I have several things to bothering me. Hearing experience from other 701 > owner would be appreciated. > > (1) The left half of the body is slightly bent, and it makes a gap to the > keyboard. The keyboard is benting down when typing, so the typing feels > bad. The parts of the case are loosen especially around the left joint of > the screen lid. Seem the butterfly gives a heavy stress to the body. The > body of 701 seems weak. Dose anyboy have a similar problem ? No, mine is quite flat and tight. Perhaps it is much more used than four months? > (2) The battery lamp dosn't work. Just keeps off. Maybe the LED is bad. > > (3) The brightness control dosn't work. The level meter shows up & > working, but I can't see any difference in the screen. Mine has no effect either. Not sure if it is a problem or just the way the TFT screen works. > > (4) What is usual battery life ? The gas meter says 2:22 after full > charge. But, I can hardly stand over 2 hours even with turning HDD off. > Is it normal ? What kind of battery? Nicads have shorter life than NiMH. My NiMH batteries get about three hours. > > (5) Windows 95 crashes after suspend/resume. I did a clean install with latest bios, and have had no troubles. > > (6) Most annoying thing. The TFT screen has 11 bad-pixel. Sigh. Can I > replace using warranty program ? > > (7) I heard about good service of IBM. Can I fixed all of the my problem > using the warranty? Also, PCMCIA cover is missing. Where can I get one ? > Is it expensive ? Never sent mine in, so can't help. > > I like this cute machine. But, I am suffering from used machine. > Thinking of never taking a deal on usenet... > > BTW, is there a 701-specific mailing list or FAQ ? > > Thanks Think this is it. Sorry your used machine is not quite what you wanted. I really like my 701, and find it very portable unlike some of the more powerful machines. -Frank From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jan 17 22:07:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046746852; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:07:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02236; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:22:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:18:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00545; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:14:46 -0500 Received: from server1.capaccess.org (server1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00524; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:14:32 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by server1.capaccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA19443 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:48:44 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id SAA11758; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:55:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:55:00 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: Myoung-Jun Kim Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: Greeting from new 701C user In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Friday, 17th January 1997, Myoung-Jun Kim wrote: > I just got 701C, and subscribed this mailing list. I bought a used > machine. The seller said it 4-months old. But, it dosn't look like that. If it was used in the field often, it could very well look older than its months - presuming that the seller represented it correctly. > I have several things to bothering me. Hearing experience from other 701 > owner would be appreciated. > > (1) The left half of the body is slightly bent, and it makes a gap to the > keyboard. The keyboard is benting down when typing, so the typing feels > bad. The parts of the case are loosen especially around the left joint of > the screen lid. Seem the butterfly gives a heavy stress to the body. The > body of 701 seems weak. Dose anyboy have a similar problem ? > > (2) The battery lamp dosn't work. Just keeps off. These two problems should be repairable. > (3) The brightness control dosn't work. The level meter shows up & > working, but I can't see any difference in the screen. The brightness control is only for the 701CS model; doing nothing brightness-wise is normal for the 701C. > (4) What is usual battery life ? The gas meter says 2:22 after full > charge. But, I can hardly stand over 2 hours even with turning HDD off. > Is it normal ? It probably depends on which OS you're running, and how often you need to hit the hard disk. > (5) Windows 95 crashes after suspend/resume. I don't use Windows 95 on my 701C, so I can't help you there. > (6) Most annoying thing. The TFT screen has 11 bad-pixel. Sigh. Can I > replace using warranty program ? It can't hurt to try! > (7) I heard about good service of IBM. Can I fixed all of the my problem > using the warranty? Also, PCMCIA cover is missing. Where can I get one ? > Is it expensive ? If you call the IBM service number and tell them about the first two problems, _and_ your 701C is still in warranty, then I'd recommend including an extra note with the 701C when you send it to the Repair Center, mentioning not only the first two problems but also the bad pixels and the missing PCMCIA cover; with any luck it'll reach a conscientious repair person who'll take care of it all. > I like this cute machine. But, I am suffering from used machine. > Thinking of never taking a deal on usenet... "Caveat emptor" is a long-standing piece of advice. > BTW, is there a 701-specific mailing list or FAQ ? Not that I know of. I hope that the repairs will happen with a minimum of fuss! Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jan 17 22:08:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA047056922; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:08:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13561; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:52:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:47:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12812; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:47:06 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12754; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:46:49 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (d012003.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.12.3]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id OAA18830; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:46:25 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970117144616.0076b170@serv0.cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:46:17 -0600 To: betha@engr From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: Linux on 755CD Cc: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Beth, The price Webpage is at: http://www.pricewatch.com/ Though it seems to be down at this time. The HP contact is: Jerry Schurr at 317-582-4567. He will try to call you or you can call him. His Email is Jerry_Schurr@hp.com And then here are some Linux threads from the Thinkpad maillist. I only typically saved things for my machine which is an oddball 755CD. There may not be as many Linux messages as I said. I think NT is starting to be a discussion item. Thanks Mike ----------- > Has anyone else out there been successful (or brave enough) > in getting all of the peripheral devices operating properly > with Linux as the operating system? I have been running Linux on my 755CD for the last two years. Works pretty good but the MWave stuff is not fully supported. If you boot DOS first and initialize the MWave, then the Sound Blaster emulation and listening to audio CDs works. No go on the modem part though. I have not used the PCMCIA card you mention. I use a GVC ethernet card and a GVC modem card which both work great. The only trick with it is the CDROM drive. The 1.2.13 Linux kernels don't support it very well and it loses data. The problem was fixed in the first 1.3 release so its easy to patch 1.2.13 by copying the drivers/block/ ide-cd.c stuff from a 1.3.1 release or just upgrade to the newest 2.0.x kernels. Let me know if I can help you more! > Specifically... > > 1) Mwave Modem > 2) IBM 4/16 T/R PCMCIA card > 3) internal CDROM > > Thanks, > > Joe Leonard > MCI Business Markets, St. Louis, MO > joe.leonard@mci.com > (314)719-3134 +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ Subject: Re: LINUX setup on TP755CD To: greifzu@VNET.IBM.COM Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:45:54 -0500 (CDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Robert.Zimbinski@cdc.com Reply-To: Robert.Zimbinski@cdc.com Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I also have a 755CD that I run Linux on. I wrestled with this problem a (very short) while before I settled on the less elegant method of copying the base and kernel Slackware disk sets to a dos partition and doing the inital install from there. After I had a minimal Linux installation going, I was able to load the rest of the system off the CD. If you want to try a full install by swapping the drives, I believe you'll need a kernel with ATAPI/IDE CD-ROM and APM support compiled in. I really don't know if such a boot image exists. Hope this helps a little. > > FROM: Ulf Greifzu > IBM Berlin, Germany > =================== > Subject: LINUX setup on TP755CD > Hi folks, > > does anybody out there know which disk images to use (boot/root) > when I want to get the interchangeable CD-ROM drive of the 755CD > to work with Linux (means which ones to install ;-)? > > Any hints would be highly appreciated. > > Thanks and Regards > > Ulf > > Mit freundlichen Gr}~en / Best Regards Ulf Greifzu > =============================================================== > >> internet: greifzu9vnet.ibm.com or deibmrvw9ibmmail.com << > >> VNET: BLNVM01(GREIFZU) extern: IBMMAIL(DEIBMRVW) << > -- Bob Zimbinski bobz@skypoint.com Robert.Zimbinski@cdc.com Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:40:07 -0500 From: bstewart@sun2.bnl.gov (Bruce Stewart) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux on 760 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I just got a 760ED running Win95 and think it's terrific. I also have an extra hard drive for the purpose of running Linux, but although I know Unix fairly well I am having a heap of trouble configuring XFree86. The X that came with my Debian distribution didn't know about the Trident TGUI 9660 video card, so I got XFree86 3.1.2G beta. Now xinit works, but it thinks I have only 640x480, and I can't get it to recognize the mouse. I am poring over the faq and archive of this list, but if anyone out there has faced this and would identify herself to me, I would be deeply grateful. Thanks in advance, -Bruce Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:36:39 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux SVGALib w/ TP701 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Someone asked how to get SVGALib working with Linux on a TP701 (SVGA graphics in full-screen mode, not X). I told him SVGALib didn't support the 701's graphics chipset (CT65545) at this time. There's a patch out that allows 640x480x256 and 800x600x256 SVGALib modes on this chipset. I haven't tried it myself so I can't say how well it works. ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/libs/graphics/svgalib-1.2.10.CTp.gz -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:09:30 -0500 From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: Paul Rubin CC: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 365xd info/opinions wanted References: <199612281807.KAA17695@netcom17.netcom.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Paul Rubin wrote: > > What do ppl think of the 365XD? It seems nicer in most regards > than my 755cx and the price is pretty reasonable. I think it has > the same display (800x600 10.4" TFT) and keyboard, plus it has > genuine Soundblaster-compatible audio hardware instead of the stupid > Mwave, and it can take an internal CD-rom. Things it -doesn't- have > are the Li ion battery and easily swappable hd's, but that's ok. > Questions: > - Can the HD be upgraded without too much hassle? I mean to put > in a bigger one. I don't need to swap them in and out regularly. > Can it use standard 19mm-thick HD's? > - Is an external floppy included or is one available? Can the > external floppy and internal CD be used as the same time without > needing any software configuration? The idea is to do OS installations > by booting a floppy that then reads the CD. This is a big pain with > the 755cx, because you have to use an external cd with pcmcia scsi, > which means you have to build the OS with pcmcia drivers etc. and > you have a chicken and egg problem. (OS is Debian Linux, btw). > - Does it have the same annoying 4-pin power connector or a more > reasonable 2-pin coaxial plug? > > Thanks. The hard drive can be upgraded, there are a few screws to remove and the drive lifts out. Not sure what size of HDD's will fit. The floppy & CD-ROm are useable at the same time. THe cd-rom is not removable. The power adapter has the 2-pin plug. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 22:15:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA047827332; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:15:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14382; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:15:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:13:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14044; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:13:22 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14038; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:13:12 -0500 Received: from 701c (liv-54.rust.net [206.42.195.154]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.4/8.8.0) with SMTP id WAA28758; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:12:13 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970117221253.006e1334@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 5 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:12:53 -0500 To: "Brett Pantalone" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: Win95 APM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:28 AM 1/17/97 -0005, you wrote: >I am running Win95 with APM enabled on my 755CE. Also, my config.sys >file lists C:/DOS/POWER.EXE in the list of drivers to be loaded. >Should this driver really be loaded, since Win95 is running APM? >-- >Brett Pantalone >Staff Engineer, Ericsson Inc. >pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se > Brett, We are trying to sort these topics out right now. If you don't have any PC cards right now then the APM in win95 should be enough. I started this thread because I changed from my real mode (16 bit) drivers to the windows 32 bit drivers only to find that my modem card was not being put to sleep when I placed my 701C laptop into suspend mode. I hope more info will be forth coming... B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 22:34:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA051568469; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:34:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15950; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:34:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:32:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15785; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:32:25 -0500 Received: from isomedia.com (mail.isomedia.com [204.157.237.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15779; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:32:22 -0500 Received: from billp117 (pm1-023.isomedia.com [206.129.160.55]) by isomedia.com (8.6.10/8) with ESMTP id TAA08940; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:29:40 -0800 Message-Id: <199701180329.TAA08940@isomedia.com> From: "Bill Pratt" To: "Brett Pantalone" , , "Bill Bryan" Subject: Re: Win95 APM Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:30:40 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu So...has anyone figured out how to put a pcmcia modem to sleep in the 701 when going into the suspend mode??? Would really like to know the correct way other than turning it off. thanks Bill Pratt, Bellevue, WA Stoc#117 "No matter where you go...there you are!" ---------- > From: Bill Bryan > To: Brett Pantalone ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Win95 APM > Date: Friday, January 17, 1997 7:12 PM > > At 08:28 AM 1/17/97 -0005, you wrote: > >I am running Win95 with APM enabled on my 755CE. Also, my config.sys > >file lists C:/DOS/POWER.EXE in the list of drivers to be loaded. > >Should this driver really be loaded, since Win95 is running APM? > >-- > >Brett Pantalone > >Staff Engineer, Ericsson Inc. > >pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se > > > Brett, We are trying to sort these topics out right now. If you don't have > any PC cards right now then the APM in win95 should be enough. I started > this thread because I changed from my real mode (16 bit) drivers to the > windows 32 bit drivers only to find that my modem card was not being put to > sleep when I placed my 701C laptop into suspend mode. I hope more info > will be forth coming... > > > B/B > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb > "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 17 23:49:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA062512967; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:49:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22126; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:49:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:45:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21628; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:44:59 -0500 Received: from gosensgo (gosensgo.brit.ca [207.134.28.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21618; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:44:54 -0500 Received: from gosensgo (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gosensgo (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id XAA00123 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:48:20 -0500 Sender: root@gosensgo Message-Id: <32E05614.70DDB1C8@brit.ca> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:48:20 -0500 From: Trevor Boicey Organization: BRIT Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C Ni-Cd Battery? -Reply References: <99E5DF3281423A7C@email.healthplan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu wpuser%gwise.hpsi{HPSI.TAMPA:Ggarrison}@healthplan.com wrote: > I have a 701C that I purchased new a little over a year ago (when they > were discontinuing the line). Everything's worked great for me until > recently. In the last couple of months I've found that while the onboard > battery will say the fully-charged battery should operate for an hour and > 45 or 50 minutes - it will actually conk out after about 30 minutes. > > Is this just the inevitable battery wear out? Or is there likely to be > some other problem. I called IBM tech support in Canada today about this problem, and they are mailing me a new battery. I was only getting about 40 minutes before, the battery would die when the meter was still reading around 60 percent. Gotta like that warranty. Thanks to the list for pointing out that this is covered under it. -- -----------------------------------------Ottawa-Canada-GOSENSGO------ Trevor Boicey 1992 Celica GT 1975 MG Midget tboicey@brit.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 18 01:38:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA079419482; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 01:38:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29868; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 01:37:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 18 Jan 1997 01:32:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29449; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 01:32:35 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA29426; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 01:32:31 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id BAA00721; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 01:33:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 01:33:56 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Trevor Boicey Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701C Ni-Cd Battery? -Reply In-Reply-To: <32E05614.70DDB1C8@brit.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Trevor Boicey wrote: > wpuser%gwise.hpsi{HPSI.TAMPA:Ggarrison}@healthplan.com wrote: > > I have a 701C that I purchased new a little over a year ago (when they > > were discontinuing the line). Everything's worked great for me until > > recently. In the last couple of months I've found that while the onboard > > battery will say the fully-charged battery should operate for an hour and > > 45 or 50 minutes - it will actually conk out after about 30 minutes. > > > > Is this just the inevitable battery wear out? Or is there likely to be > > some other problem. > > I called IBM tech support in Canada today about this problem, > and they are mailing me a new battery. I was only getting about IBM's warranty on Thinkpad batteries is 1 year, even if your machine has a 3 year warranty. For the longest time, they were ignoring this and replacing batteries no-questions-asked, but about a year ago they started to clamp down. My suggestion if you got a rep who refused to send you a replacement was to hang up, call back, and hope for someone nicer. I don't know if works (didn't for me). Considering IBM's stock is at an all-time high, perhaps they've had a change of heart? -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 18 02:42:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA090333347; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:42:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03916; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:42:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:39:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03556; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:39:00 -0500 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (mail1.halcyon.com [206.63.63.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03539; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:38:55 -0500 From: Received: from evt-mx100-ip179.halcyon.com by mail1.halcyon.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/10Nov96-0444PM) id AA26038; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:38:26 -0800 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970118073756.00674a74@halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:37:56 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: cab files Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My Thinkpad 365 came with cab files 07 through 25 in the windows\options\cab directory. I've made the back up diskettes and left the cab files for emergency use. It's always bugged me that there are no cab files 01 through 06. Can anyone explain this to me? The back up disks made from them are a full set. TIA, Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 18 02:49:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA091443763; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:49:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04532; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:49:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:46:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04384; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:46:53 -0500 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@morgana.punk.net [204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04368; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:46:50 -0500 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00479; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:46:46 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:46:45 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Parker To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701C & 560 - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? In-Reply-To: <32E00AF5.7CA6@columbia.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Eric Wong wrote: > Sorry, Steve but you are out-of-date on the 560 memory prices. I am not > sure if this is the best price, but I know that NECX has the 16MB DIMM > for under $200. When I bought my Viking Memory in August, I paid around > $270. So again, I would suggest sticking with named brands. If you had read closely you would see that I have a 16MB module in the machine I was about to get [and received today] and was talking about pricing for the 32MB module. I see those as low as $170 or so. The 32MB ones are in the mid $500 range and up. Usually about $600 or so. I have a 16MB module and need a 32MB one for a reasonable price. The 16MB one is only about 2-3 times what regular desktop RAM cost. Which is fine considering the special nature of it. But ~$600 for 32MB is a bit higher than I'm willing to pay right at the moment. Steve From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 18 08:43:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA140425026; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 08:43:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05563; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 08:43:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 18 Jan 1997 08:38:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05040; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 08:38:11 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05034; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 08:38:09 -0500 Received: from pentium-166 (borg.mindspring.com [204.180.128.14]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA116400 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 08:38:06 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970118133807.00687e30@atl.mindspring.com> X-Sender: rchalk@atl.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 08:38:07 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Richard Chalk Subject: ThinkPad 16-meg memory for sale. Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I don't normally post for sale items to a mailing list, but I have lost the address of the original individual who was concerned about the price of memory. If you read this, and are interested, I have a 16-meg module which I believe fits 560, 365, and 760E series. It is a genuine IBM part, and the P/N is 92G7341. I would like to sell it for $100 My apologies to all the non-interested readers. This will not be repeated. Thanks, Richard At 11:46 PM 1/17/97 -0800, you wrote: > >On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Eric Wong wrote: > >> Sorry, Steve but you are out-of-date on the 560 memory prices. I am not >> sure if this is the best price, but I know that NECX has the 16MB DIMM >> for under $200. When I bought my Viking Memory in August, I paid around >> $270. So again, I would suggest sticking with named brands. > > If you had read closely you would see that I have a 16MB module in the >machine I was about to get [and received today] and was talking about >pricing for the 32MB module. I see those as low as $170 or >so. The 32MB ones are in the mid $500 range and up. Usually about $600 >or so. I have a 16MB module and need a 32MB one for a reasonable price. > > The 16MB one is only about 2-3 times what regular desktop RAM cost. >Which is fine considering the special nature of it. But ~$600 for 32MB >is a bit higher than I'm willing to pay right at the moment. > >Steve > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 18 11:22:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA161944536; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 11:22:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16702; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 11:22:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 18 Jan 1997 11:17:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16402; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 11:17:28 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16396; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 11:17:25 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA73736 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:17:20 GMT Received: from slip166-72-19-83.ny.us.ibm.net(166.72.19.83) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smacvUDFW; Sat Jan 18 16:17:18 1997 Message-Id: <32E0F6FC.6BC2@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 11:14:52 -0500 From: stevez1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: New ThinkPad 760ED - Display Flickers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I recently purchased an TP760ED (2.1 gb disk drive w/CD-ROM). This is my second TP, the first being a 750C. I have been very happy with TP and IBM service, as evident by my new purchase. Even though I am happy with the new TP to date, there are three annoying problems, the major being an intermittent screen flickering problem. I have been trying to determine under what conditions this slight flickering takes place, and it is just enough at times to be annoying. It appears to more frequently incur when the TP is connected to the AC and the battery is recharging. It happens less frequently when the power is supplied by battery only, and I believe, less frequently when the battery is completely charged and the TP is connected to AC. Again, is intermittent. The other problem is that I find that the keyboard requires more “effort” - it is a little harder than the 750C. Sometimes, I do not press hard enough to register the key stroke. Finally, the machine does run hot. IBM sent me a fax addressing the issues, including updating the BIOS, MPEG drivers, and PMCIA code (all of which I have not yet attempted). For PC cards that generate a lot of heat, the recommend using the upper PC card slot. The fax document number is 12404, and I believe that the FaxBack number is 800-426-3395. Has anyone else noticed the first two problems? Any additional information would be appreciated. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 18 15:34:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA199119643; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:34:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07238; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:33:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:28:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06765; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:28:40 -0500 Received: from mail-c.bcc.ac.uk (mail-c.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06759; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:28:37 -0500 Received: from [128.40.81.204] (actually host mouse.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-c.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:28:24 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk (Alexander J. Annala) Subject: Linux Audio and APM software for TP750Cs ?? Pp-Warning: No Date field - one added at mail-c.bcc.ac.uk Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:28:25 +0000 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone have a copy of the Linux Audio and/or APM software (driver/patches) which they could either email to me or send to my anonymous ftp site (ftp://camelot.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk:/incoming)? I haven't been able to actually locate these items on the network. Thanks, Alexander J. Annala, Ph.D. Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology University College London Gower Street WC1E 6BT From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 18 21:50:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA255482246; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:50:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01970; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:50:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:42:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01417; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:41:59 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01410; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:41:49 -0500 From: Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA142204 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:23:30 GMT Received: from slip166-72-214-140.ca.us.ibm.net(166.72.214.140) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smahQkDmb; Fri Jan 17 23:23:10 1997 Received: by slip166-72-214-140 (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id PAA002.56; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:23:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199701172023.PAA002.56@slip166-72-214-140> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 15:18:16 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: Typical 701C battery life? X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <255_140_4_853532296> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > What would a typical battery life be like on the 701C? > I'm running OS/2 on mine and have found that it will go for about two hours (just under that) if I keep it moving (no suspend, etc.) I rarely use it off the battery but on those occassions that I have I've used it for over four hours but most of that time it was idle while I was talking, getting coffee, etc. Hope this helps, Lee ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 18 22:44:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA264795489; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:44:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05802; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:44:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:39:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05379; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:39:12 -0500 Received: from po9.andrew.cmu.edu (PO9.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.109]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05373; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:39:09 -0500 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po9.andrew.cmu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) id WAA18077 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:39:00 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs24.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs24.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Jun.27.1996.03.05.56.sun4.41.EzMail.PC.3.2.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.pcs24.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4m.412 via MS.5.6.pcs24.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4_41; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:38:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:38:28 -0500 (EST) From: Edward S Welch To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: PC card woes on 701/Win95 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Any help with the following problem would be much appreciated: I've recently upgraded my 701 to Win95. Everything works fine except my 3Com Ethernet card (an Etherlink III, 3c589c). Despite persistent fiddling, I cannot get the network adapter working. It is always marked with a yellow exclamation point in the Device Manager window of the System Control panel. Have tried the drivers that ship with Win95 as well as the latest from 3com. None seem to work. Have (of course) upgraded TP BIOS and installed Win95 enhancements disk from IBM. Still no luck. Help! TIA, Ned Welch From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 19 05:11:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA023008689; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 05:11:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA01933; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 05:11:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 19 Jan 1997 05:04:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA01394; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 05:04:51 -0500 Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA01388; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 05:04:48 -0500 Received: from homer30.u.washington.edu (homer30.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.8]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA23650 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 01:19:59 -0800 Received: from localhost (mjk@localhost) by homer30.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA46730 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 01:23:55 -0800 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 01:23:55 -0800 (PST) From: Myoung-Jun Kim To: thinkpad Subject: suspend/resume in NT 4.0 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I just install Windows NT 4.0 in 701C. But, it crashes after suspend/resume. Dose anybody use NT 4.0 ? Please, let me know your case. Actually, I had a same problem in Win 95.... ------------------------------------------------- Dr. Myoung-Jun Kim, U of Washington BOX 352650 Seattle WA 98195 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 19 05:20:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA024009211; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 05:20:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA03993; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 05:19:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 19 Jan 1997 05:14:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02094; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 05:14:41 -0500 Received: from mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.143]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02087; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 05:14:38 -0500 Received: from tp560 (dialup-8-16.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.36.204]) by mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id FAA08292 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 05:14:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <32E1CE78.1220@columbia.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 02:34:16 -0500 From: Eric Wong Reply-To: etw3@columbia.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701C & 560 - scales 320x200 video modes to 640x480? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu | |> Sorry, Steve but you are out-of-date on the 560 memory prices. I am not |> sure if this is the best price, but I know that NECX has the 16MB DIMM |> for under $200. When I bought my Viking Memory in August, I paid around |> $270. So again, I would suggest sticking with named brands. | | If you had read closely you would see that I have a 16MB module in the |machine I was about to get [and received today] and was talking about |pricing for the 32MB module. I see those as low as $170 or |so. The 32MB ones are in the mid $500 range and up. Usually about $600 |or so. I have a 16MB module and need a 32MB one for a reasonable price. | | The 16MB one is only about 2-3 times what regular desktop RAM cost. |Which is fine considering the special nature of it. But ~$600 for 32MB |is a bit higher than I'm willing to pay right at the moment. | |Steve Sorry, but I was thinking you were trying to get to 24MB. Now for 32MB DIMMS for the TP560, I still think you may be out of date on the pricing. I believe that I have seen Simple memory for under $450. I have never used that manufacturer before, although have heard of them. Maybe someone else on the list can comment on their quality, etc. Eric. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 19 08:23:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA047940205; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 08:23:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAB16265; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 08:23:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 19 Jan 1997 08:17:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15804; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 08:17:34 -0500 Received: from kari.fm.unit.no (30256@kari.fm.unit.no [129.241.26.200]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15798; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 08:17:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (larsev@localhost) by kari.fm.unit.no (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA21263 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:17:29 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:17:28 +0100 (MET) From: Lars Evensen To: Thinpad mailinglist Subject: XFREE86 on an IBM thinkpad 755cx Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi I was wondering if anyone has managed to get x-windows to work at an 800*600 resolution. I'm unly able to get it to work in 640*480 leaving the black border all around the screen. Any help would be appreciated. CU -- LArs Evensen, Overordnet TillitsValgt (OTV) ved FIM, NTNU E.B.Schieldrops Vei 11-16 E-mail : larsev@fm.unit.no 7033 Trondheim WWW : http://www.fm.unit.no/~larsev/ Norway Phone : + 47 - 73 88 89 01 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 19 10:49:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA068258953; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:49:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25355; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:49:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:42:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24767; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:42:30 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24761; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:42:28 -0500 Received: from 701c (liv-51.rust.net [206.42.195.151]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.4/8.8.0) with SMTP id KAA15865; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:41:34 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970119104219.006e1220@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 5 (32) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:42:19 -0500 To: Edward S Welch , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: PC card woes on 701/Win95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:38 PM 1/18/97 -0500, you wrote: >Any help with the following problem would be much appreciated: > >I've recently upgraded my 701 to Win95. Everything works fine except my >3Com Ethernet card (an Etherlink III, 3c589c). Despite persistent >fiddling, I cannot get the network adapter working. It is always marked >with a yellow exclamation point in the Device Manager window of the >System Control panel. > >Have tried the drivers that ship with Win95 as well as the latest from >3com. None seem to work. Have (of course) upgraded TP BIOS and >installed Win95 enhancements disk from IBM. Still no luck. > >Help! > >TIA, > >Ned Welch > Ned here's an approach from Megahertz: Yellow "!" shown Next To Card In "Device Manager" --------------------------------------------------- When this occurs it means that Windows 95 sees the card but has not configured it correctly. Fix this by following these steps: (1) "Remove" all Our cards listed in the Device Manager. (2) Physically remove the card from the slot. (3) Delete the files DRVDATA.BIN and DRVIDX.BIN from C:\WINDOWS\INF. (4) Re-insert the card. ============= Hope this helps... B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 19 11:48:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA076982494; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 11:48:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29528; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 11:47:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 19 Jan 1997 11:42:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29106; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 11:42:13 -0500 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29100; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 11:42:10 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu (yu1.yu.edu [129.98.200.100]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA03412; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 11:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19321; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 11:42:05 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 11:42:05 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof To: Richard Chalk Cc: epbrown , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Windows95 OSR2 and Thinkpads? In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19970117102341.00697018@atl.mindspring.com> Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've been using it for a few months on my 755CD also without any problems, I had disabled hibernation anyway so I didn't run into any real problems. I also had to install it from the hard drive. On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Richard Chalk wrote: > I have it installed on a 760ED...the only problem I had was that after > Partitioning and formatting the HD in FAT32, the machine refused to let me > install the CD-ROM driver diskette (DOS) so that I could install the > Windows95 OSR2 from CD. I copied the CD driver files and config.sys and > autoexec.bat commands manually onto the HD, and then it installed OK. > > You need the HIMEM.SYS file, and the Device=HIMEM.SYS also on the HD, since > it runs a version of SCANDISK that requires it at the beginning of install. > > Depending on the particular machine, note any peculiarities from IBM. For > example, on the 760ED it is necessary to go with Custom Install, and remove > the S3 Video device drivers from the list of equipment. This was true in > the original W95 as well. > > All of the IBM drivers and features installed without difficulty. > > Regards, > Richard > > At 09:29 AM 1/17/97 GMT, you wrote: > > Has anyone upgraded a Thinkpad to the new Windows 95? The Mini-FAQ I > >found on the web states (uncertainly) it doesn't work with previous > >Thinkpad models, and I was thinking of trying it out on my 701. Anyone > >tried it yet? > > epbrown > >epbrown@enteract.com > >Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ > >http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown > > > > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 19 14:23:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA100891796; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:23:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08859; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:22:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:16:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08162; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:16:52 -0500 Received: from ig.cs.utk.edu (IG.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.149]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08144; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:16:49 -0500 Received: from localhost by ig.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id OAA29184; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:16:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701191916.OAA29184@ig.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk (Alexander J. Annala) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux Audio and APM software for TP750Cs ?? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:28:25 GMT." Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:16:48 -0500 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Does anyone have a copy of the Linux Audio and/or APM software > (driver/patches) which they could either email to me or send to > my anonymous ftp site (ftp://camelot.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk:/incoming)? If these actually exist, I'd like a pointer to them too. Keith From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 19 17:17:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA126802263; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 17:17:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21311; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 17:17:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 19 Jan 1997 17:09:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20421; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 17:09:34 -0500 Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.128]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20415; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 17:09:26 -0500 Received: from argus.stanford.edu (kisoo.Stanford.EDU [171.64.182.107]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.8.4/8.8.4/8.8.4L) with SMTP id OAA10911 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:09:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970119140810.006e3214@pobox4.stanford.edu> X-Sender: kisoo@pobox4.stanford.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:08:11 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Paul Lee Subject: 560: APM, PointCast Snaffus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all, I have a question regarding my Thinkpad. After I open up Thinkpad Features, and select the Power Management button, it tries to load it, but after opening and closing several windows, I end up with an empty DOS window that says Insufficient Memory. (No other programs open; I have 40 MB RAM). The same thing happens when I try running PointCast. Any help? Paul. -- "Aslan is on the move." From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 19 18:32:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA139336749; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:32:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26380; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:32:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:25:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25786; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:25:26 -0500 Received: from isomedia.com (mail.isomedia.com [204.157.237.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25752; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:25:15 -0500 Received: from billprat (pm2-020.isomedia.com [206.129.160.84]) by isomedia.com (8.6.10/8) with ESMTP id PAA09271; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:23:15 -0800 Message-Id: <199701192323.PAA09271@isomedia.com> From: "Bill Pratt" To: "Myoung-Jun Kim" , "thinkpad" Subject: Re: suspend/resume in NT 4.0 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:22:19 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Try upgrading your bios...available from IBM web page. Also, try reformatting your hard drive with a fresh install. You should have no problems with the newer bios upgrade which supports win/95. Also, try calling IBM tech support. They can advise. Bill Pratt, Bellevue, WA "No matter where you go...there you are"! billp117@isomedia.com http://www.isomedia.com/homes/billp117 ---------- > From: Myoung-Jun Kim > To: thinkpad > Subject: suspend/resume in NT 4.0 > Date: Sunday, January 19, 1997 1:23 AM > > Hi, > > I just install Windows NT 4.0 in 701C. But, it crashes after > suspend/resume. Dose anybody use NT 4.0 ? Please, let me know your case. > Actually, I had a same problem in Win 95.... > > ------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Myoung-Jun Kim, U of Washington > BOX 352650 Seattle WA 98195 > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 19 22:29:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA173340994; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 22:29:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10450; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 22:28:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 19 Jan 1997 22:15:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09384; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 22:15:16 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09371; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 22:15:11 -0500 Received: from user-37kb96e.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb96e.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.206]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA138372; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 22:15:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199701200315.WAA138372@mule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Myoung-Jun Kim" , "thinkpad" Date: Sun, 19 Jan 97 22:15:06 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: suspend/resume in NT 4.0 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Power mgt is not supported by WinNT & IBM hasn't written support (drivers) that will work on the 701's. The TP utilites for the 760e's, 365x's & 560's support suspend/resume. On Sun, 19 Jan 1997 01:23:55 -0800 (PST), Myoung-Jun Kim wrote: >Hi, > >I just install Windows NT 4.0 in 701C. But, it crashes after >suspend/resume. Dose anybody use NT 4.0 ? Please, let me know your case. >Actually, I had a same problem in Win 95.... > >------------------------------------------------- >Dr. Myoung-Jun Kim, U of Washington >BOX 352650 Seattle WA 98195 > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Wanted: DEAD 701C battery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anybody have a completely dead 701 battery they would part with for a couple of dollars? I am getting my battery replaced from IBM because my battery life is pretty bad. But they want my old battery back. I'd much rather send them a totally dead battery and keep my marginal battery as a spare. IBM just probably replaces the cells anyways so all they likely use is the plastic. Any takers? -- -----------------------------------------Ottawa-Canada-GOSENSGO------ Trevor Boicey 1992 Celica GT 1975 MG Midget tboicey@brit.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 03:23:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA223628634; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:23:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27803; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:23:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:17:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26817; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:17:36 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26801; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:17:32 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA08315; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 23:55:35 -0700 Message-Id: <32E31554.55FE@wwsi.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 23:48:52 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Evensen Cc: Thinpad mailinglist Subject: Re: XFREE86 on an IBM thinkpad 755cx X-Priority: Normal References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yes. Check out the Linux Thinkpad resources pages under our home page. -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Electronic Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 04:32:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA233362764; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 04:32:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27800; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:23:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:17:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26828; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:17:36 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26806; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:17:33 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA08303; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 23:52:25 -0700 Message-Id: <32E31497.46DB@wwsi.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 23:45:43 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Myoung-Jun Kim Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: suspend/resume in NT 4.0 X-Priority: Normal References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Myoung-Jun Kim wrote: > I just install Windows NT 4.0 in 701C. But, it crashes after > suspend/resume. Dose anybody use NT 4.0 ? Please, let me know your case. > Actually, I had a same problem in Win 95.... Did you install the NT Thinkpad Utilities (available from the IBM Web site)? You need them! ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Electronic Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 04:58:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA236404325; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 04:58:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07576; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 04:58:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 04:52:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06922; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 04:52:44 -0500 Received: from stevie.loop.net ([207.211.60.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06877; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 04:52:39 -0500 Received: from p22.hwts15.loop.net (p22.hwts15.loop.net [207.211.62.247]) by stevie.loop.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA25410 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:50:58 -0800 Message-Id: <199701200950.BAA25410@stevie.loop.net> X-Sender: howie@pop.loop.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:54:02 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Howard Subject: Re: Greeting from new 701C user Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There seems to be some confusion between the Brightness versus the Contrast settings on a 701C. To clarify: Brightness, (Fn plus Home and End keys) *should* have at least some effect on the appearance of the screen, although the extent of change is minor. Contrast, (Fn plus Insert and Delete keys) will not affect the TFT screen of the 701C, but is a control for the dual scan 701CS. Regards, Howard Simson P.O. Box 2074 Toluca Lake, CA 91610 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 06:50:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA251251012; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 06:50:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA19972; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 06:49:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 06:43:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA19402; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 06:43:37 -0500 Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA19374; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 06:43:24 -0500 Received: from homer17.u.washington.edu (homer17.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.1]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA16298 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:38:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (mjk@localhost) by homer17.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA46710 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:42:29 -0800 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:42:29 -0800 (PST) From: Myoung-Jun Kim To: thinkpad Subject: Re: Greeting from new 701C user In-Reply-To: <199701200950.BAA25410@stevie.loop.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yes, I mentioned Brightness, Fn+Home,End. It dosn't make any difference in my 701C. ------------------------------------------------- Dr. Myoung-Jun Kim, U of Washington BOX 352650 Seattle WA 98195 On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, Howard wrote: > There seems to be some confusion between the Brightness versus the Contrast > settings on a 701C. > To clarify: > > Brightness, (Fn plus Home and End keys) *should* have at least some effect on > the appearance of the screen, although the extent of change is minor. > > Contrast, (Fn plus Insert and Delete keys) > will not affect the TFT screen of the 701C, but is a control for the dual > scan 701CS. > > Regards, > Howard Simson > P.O. Box 2074 > Toluca Lake, CA 91610 > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 06:58:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA252061516; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 06:58:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20514; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 06:58:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 06:54:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20207; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 06:54:49 -0500 Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20201; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 06:54:47 -0500 Received: from homer17.u.washington.edu (homer17.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.1]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA15868 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:53:41 -0800 Received: from localhost (mjk@localhost) by homer17.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA15998 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:54:44 -0800 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:54:43 -0800 (PST) From: Myoung-Jun Kim To: thinkpad Subject: Re: suspend/resume in NT 4.0 In-Reply-To: <199701192323.PAA09271@isomedia.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, it seems I need to explain my problem in detail. In my 701C, NT 4.0 crahses after suspend/resume. Also, Windows 95 do so. I don't know about Windows 95 comes with the machine. But, I installed NT 4.0 workstation. I didn't format the HDD. NT & Win95 are co-existing. Many body guess it is a problme caused by old BIOS. But, I have new BIOS, BUTUS3O & BFDUS1G. And, I couldn't find NT 4.0 utilities for 701C in IBM website. There are some for NT 3.5. Am I missing something ? Or, should I call IBM service ? ------------------------------------------------- Dr. Myoung-Jun Kim, U of Washington BOX 352650 Seattle WA 98195 On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Bill Pratt wrote: > Try upgrading your bios...available from IBM web page. Also, try > reformatting your hard drive with a fresh install. You should have no > problems with the newer bios upgrade which supports win/95. Also, try > calling IBM tech support. They can advise. > > Bill Pratt, Bellevue, WA > "No matter where you go...there you are"! > billp117@isomedia.com > http://www.isomedia.com/homes/billp117 > > ---------- > > From: Myoung-Jun Kim > > To: thinkpad > > Subject: suspend/resume in NT 4.0 > > Date: Sunday, January 19, 1997 1:23 AM > > > > Hi, > > > > I just install Windows NT 4.0 in 701C. But, it crashes after > > suspend/resume. Dose anybody use NT 4.0 ? Please, let me know your > case. > > Actually, I had a same problem in Win 95.... > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Dr. Myoung-Jun Kim, U of Washington > > BOX 352650 Seattle WA 98195 > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 07:06:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA253222007; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:06:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA21133; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:06:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:02:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20877; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:02:54 -0500 Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20865; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:02:50 -0500 Received: from homer17.u.washington.edu (homer17.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.1]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA19132; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:58:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (mjk@localhost) by homer17.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA49632; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 04:02:46 -0800 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 04:02:46 -0800 (PST) From: Myoung-Jun Kim To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: suspend/resume in NT 4.0 In-Reply-To: <199701200315.WAA138372@mule0.mindspring.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is that mean NT is supposed to crash without power management ? How about Windows 95 ? Is there any special files to be installed for suspend/resume in addition to normal Windows 95 setup ? On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Jeffrey S. Schwartz wrote: > Power mgt is not supported by WinNT & IBM hasn't written support > (drivers) that will work on the 701's. The TP utilites for the > 760e's, 365x's & 560's support suspend/resume. > > On Sun, 19 Jan 1997 01:23:55 -0800 (PST), Myoung-Jun Kim wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I just install Windows NT 4.0 in 701C. But, it crashes after > >suspend/resume. Dose anybody use NT 4.0 ? Please, let me know your case. > >Actually, I had a same problem in Win 95.... > > > >------------------------------------------------- > >Dr. Myoung-Jun Kim, U of Washington > >BOX 352650 Seattle WA 98195 > > > > jeffsnc@mindspring.com > > I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited > under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to > $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 08:31:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA263807083; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 08:31:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24916; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 08:02:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:57:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA24559; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:57:16 -0500 Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA24552; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:57:14 -0500 Received: from homer13.u.washington.edu (homer13.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.14]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA22566 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 04:56:09 -0800 Received: from localhost (mjk@localhost) by homer13.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA113376 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 04:57:12 -0800 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 04:57:11 -0800 (PST) From: Myoung-Jun Kim To: thinkpad Subject: Re: suspend/resume in NT 4.0 (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just found another fact on my 701C. The hibernation works well in NT 4.0. I think the hibernation & the suspend are basically the same except the suspend keeps memory turned on. So, I am suspecting my 701C is defective. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:54:43 -0800 (PST) From: Myoung-Jun Kim To: thinkpad Subject: Re: suspend/resume in NT 4.0 Well, it seems I need to explain my problem in detail. In my 701C, NT 4.0 crahses after suspend/resume. Also, Windows 95 do so. I don't know about Windows 95 comes with the machine. But, I installed NT 4.0 workstation. I didn't format the HDD. NT & Win95 are co-existing. Many body guess it is a problme caused by old BIOS. But, I have new BIOS, BUTUS3O & BFDUS1G. And, I couldn't find NT 4.0 utilities for 701C in IBM website. There are some for NT 3.5. Am I missing something ? Or, should I call IBM service ? ------------------------------------------------- Dr. Myoung-Jun Kim, U of Washington BOX 352650 Seattle WA 98195 On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Bill Pratt wrote: > Try upgrading your bios...available from IBM web page. Also, try > reformatting your hard drive with a fresh install. You should have no > problems with the newer bios upgrade which supports win/95. Also, try > calling IBM tech support. They can advise. > > Bill Pratt, Bellevue, WA > "No matter where you go...there you are"! > billp117@isomedia.com > http://www.isomedia.com/homes/billp117 > > ---------- > > From: Myoung-Jun Kim > > To: thinkpad > > Subject: suspend/resume in NT 4.0 > > Date: Sunday, January 19, 1997 1:23 AM > > > > Hi, > > > > I just install Windows NT 4.0 in 701C. But, it crashes after > > suspend/resume. Dose anybody use NT 4.0 ? Please, let me know your > case. > > Actually, I had a same problem in Win 95.... > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Dr. Myoung-Jun Kim, U of Washington > > BOX 352650 Seattle WA 98195 > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 13:23:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA020414580; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:23:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20950; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:20:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:04:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19588; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:04:11 -0500 Received: from moondance.np.ac.sg (moondance.np.ac.sg [153.20.24.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19569; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:03:53 -0500 Received: (uucp@localhost) by moondance.np.ac.sg (8.7.1/8.7.1) id BAA27001 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:47:07 GMT Received: from 93202707@mercury.np.ac.sg(153.20.24.81) by moondance.np.ac.sg via smap (V1.3) id sma026997; Tue Jan 21 01:46:53 1997 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:53:18 +0800 (SGT) From: Loke Teng Yan <93202707@mercury.np.ac.sg> X-Sender: 93202707@mercury To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Installation of OS/2 Warp 4 on TP760ELD In-Reply-To: <32d6b57c.24033806@mailgate.execpc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I have a IBM ThinkPad 760ELD, and I'm planning to install OS/2 Warp 4 alongside with the pre-installed Win95, all on a 810MB hard disk. The main problem is, the UltraBay, which accepts either the CD-ROM drive or diskette drive, can only use one drive at a time, and it is not possible to hot-swap the two drives. I can't afford to buy the external cradle for the diskette drive. So, I intend to copy all the disk images from the CD-ROM to the hard disk and install using the diskette drive. Now, what I should do, is to defragment the Win95 primary partition C:, and leave about 300MB of disk space for OS/2. I calculated that I would need to install a total of about 92(+20 swap)MB of OS/2 components, and the images are a total of about 193MB. I would then use Partition Magic to shrink the Win95 partition C:, and create a logical drive D: in a extended partition for installation of OS/2. However, I realized that I wanted to format and install on a HPFS drive, and that will complicate matters. I hope somebody can tell me whether the following procedure will work. In order to install on the HPFS D: drive, I first need to run FDISK from the OS/2 diskettes, and format the D: drive, after I have created it using Partition Magic. After the drive is formatted to HPFS, I need to boot to OS/2 and copy the images from the CD-ROM. But then I will need to modify CONFIG.SYS on the OS/2 diskette to recognise the CD-ROM drive. Assuming that that is successfully done, I then copy the files from the CD-ROM drive to the HPFS D: drive. After copying the images, I can then boot off the diskettes again to start installing OS/2 on D: drive, using the images from the same drive (I understand that I have to perform some modifications to the OS/2 diskettes as well, according to the document OSINHDLT dated 11/14/96). Once installation is complete, I can also delete the images from drive D: to reclaim disk space. Phew, any problems with the above procedure? Please comment freely. Also, the procedures described in the first edition of the ThinkPad 760E/760ED User's Guide, pages 184-6, are quite similar to OSINHDLT. Which one should I follow? BTW, does anyone with the same ThinkPad have had problems installing OS/2 Warp, because of the Sanyo 4X CD-ROM drive or Cyber9320 PCI video chipset? Do I need to follow the procedure mentioned in the User's Guide, pages 187-8? Thank you for any help and suggestions. Teng Yan Loke aka Cow | lokety@post1.com | finger 4 PGP key | Quake Electronic & Computer Engr. Ngee Ann Polytechnic Singapore | HP100LX | OS/2 => MW2/Myst/SC2K/Relentless Infopages ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 15:38:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA048812716; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:38:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02836; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:36:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:31:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02488; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:31:34 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02482; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:31:31 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA10225; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:28:44 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199701202028.PAA10225@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: Linux Audio and APM software for TP750Cs ?? In-Reply-To: from "Alexander J. Annala" at "Jan 18, 97 08:28:25 pm" To: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk (Alexander J. Annala) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:28:44 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Does anyone have a copy of the Linux Audio and/or APM software > (driver/patches) which they could either email to me or send to > my anonymous ftp site (ftp://camelot.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk:/incoming)? As far as I know there is no direct support for the TP750's audio system under Linux. And since the SB emulation is done at the software level (as opposed to being hardware register compatible), initializing the sound system in DOS and booting into Linux will not work. It has been a while since I looked at the Linux sound driver code, but there may be some generic support for the TP750's codec chip (can't recall what type at the moment). Even then, trying to get sound working under Linux is probably more trouble than it's worth. The APM software can be found at ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/... It should be apmd-XXXX.tar.gz. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 18:50:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA084444216; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:50:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18699; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:48:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:43:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18366; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:43:04 -0500 Received: from wdl1.wdl.lmco.com ([137.249.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18357; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:42:58 -0500 Received: from conic.lmco.com by wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (SMI-8.6/WDL-5.0) id PAA04240; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:42:50 -0800 Message-Id: <32E4039D.35CD@conic.lmco.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:45:33 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Organization: Lockheed Martin Conic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Caddy for TP760? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Some time ago there was talk of someone selling caddys for a TP760 drive bay. I'm thinking about buying a Toshiba 1.3 GB drive (12mm thick) and I wonder if anybody is manufacturing these enclosures for a reasonable price. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 19:09:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA088525344; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:09:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20163; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:07:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:04:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19776; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:04:08 -0500 Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19770; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:04:05 -0500 Received: from jim.dhs.com ([198.69.202.22]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.8.4/8.8.4/ler-0120-1638) with SMTP id SAA18427; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:04:00 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <32E4086C.500@cyberramp.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:06:04 -0600 From: Jim X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: jmcghee@cyberramp.net Subject: Re: Caddy for TP760? References: <32E4039D.35CD@conic.lmco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, You're not going to believe this, but I just walked in the door from bying a caddie for my 760L. I got it from PS Solutions, Inc (972)783-6996. Jim McGhee Tom Franklin wrote: > > Some time ago there was talk of someone selling caddys for a TP760 drive > bay. I'm thinking about buying a Toshiba 1.3 GB drive (12mm thick) and > I wonder if anybody is manufacturing these enclosures for a reasonable > price. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 19:39:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA093947166; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:39:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22640; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:38:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:34:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22275; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:34:37 -0500 Received: from wdl1.wdl.lmco.com ([137.249.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22264; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:34:34 -0500 Received: from conic.lmco.com by wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (SMI-8.6/WDL-5.0) id QAA06030; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:33:56 -0800 Message-Id: <32E40F98.5D77@conic.lmco.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:36:40 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Organization: Lockheed Martin Conic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Caddy for TP760? References: <32E4039D.35CD@conic.lmco.com> <32E4086C.500@cyberramp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Jim wrote: > > Hi, > You're not going to believe this, but I just walked in the door from bying > a caddie for my 760L. > I got it from PS Solutions, Inc (972)783-6996. > I spoke with Jerome at PS Solutions and they have a model for the thicker (i.e., CD ROM capable) TP760 and the thinner one. The caddy for the thinner TP wont be ready till Friday. I'll keep you updated. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 19:40:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA094037231; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:40:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22757; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:39:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:36:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22486; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:36:04 -0500 Received: from gosensgo (gosensgo.brit.ca [207.134.28.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22480; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:36:00 -0500 Received: from gosensgo (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gosensgo (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id TAA00216 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:39:27 -0500 Sender: root@gosensgo Message-Id: <32E4103F.5AC6802F@brit.ca> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:39:27 -0500 From: Trevor Boicey Organization: BRIT Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Caddy for TP760? References: <32E4039D.35CD@conic.lmco.com> <32E4086C.500@cyberramp.net> <32E40F98.5D77@conic.lmco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tom Franklin wrote: > > You're not going to believe this, but I just walked in the door from bying > > a caddie for my 760L. > > I got it from PS Solutions, Inc (972)783-6996. > > > > I spoke with Jerome at PS Solutions and they have a model for the > thicker (i.e., CD ROM capable) TP760 and the thinner one. The caddy for > the thinner TP wont be ready till Friday. I'll keep you updated. Any 701 caddies? -- .---------------------------------------Ottawa-Canada-GOSENSGO-----. / Trevor Boicey 1992 Celica GT 1975 MG Midget / `---- tboicey@brit.ca ------------------------------------------' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 20:56:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA112541756; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:55:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28905; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:54:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:50:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28613; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:50:12 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28569; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:49:59 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA20807; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:48:28 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199701210148.UAA20807@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Caddy for TP760? To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:48:27 -0500 (EST) Cc: jmcghee@cyberramp.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <32E40F98.5D77@conic.lmco.com> from "Tom Franklin" at Jan 20, 97 04:36:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > You're not going to believe this, but I just walked in the door from bying > > a caddie for my 760L. > > I got it from PS Solutions, Inc (972)783-6996. > > I spoke with Jerome at PS Solutions and they have a model for the > thicker (i.e., CD ROM capable) TP760 and the thinner one. The caddy for > the thinner TP wont be ready till Friday. I'll keep you updated. My experience has been that the PS Solutions 760 thin caddy has been on the verge of being ready "next week" since mid-November, when I first talked with Jerome. Of course, I really hope that it will ship this Friday, but I'm not holding my breath just yet. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 21:26:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA118663594; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:26:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01748; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:23:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:19:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01459; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:19:46 -0500 Received: from crl.dec.com (crl.dec.com [192.58.206.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01434; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:19:37 -0500 Received: by crl.dec.com; id AA13487; Mon, 20 Jan 97 21:16:04 -0500 Received: by hgunix.hgo.dec.com; id AA18140; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:15:51 +0800 Received: by hgcs04.hgo.dec.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63)id <01BC0784.28036580@hgcs04.hgo.dec.com>; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:16:24 +0800 Message-Id: From: David Liu To: "'Tim Tyhurst'" , "'tomf@conic.lmco.com'" Cc: "'jmcghee@cyberramp.net'" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Caddy for TP760? Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:16:23 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >-----Original Message----- >From: Tim Tyhurst [SMTP:tim@excelsior.com] >Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 1997 9:48 AM >To: tomf@conic.lmco.com >Cc: jmcghee@cyberramp.net; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Re: Caddy for TP760? > > >My experience has been that the PS Solutions 760 thin caddy has been >on the verge of being ready "next week" since mid-November, when I first >talked with Jerome. Of course, I really hope that it will ship this >Friday, but I'm not holding my breath just yet. >[David Liu] Do you know if they got the caddy for 755CE ? do they have any >fax no or Web address so I can place my mailorder ? > >Thanks, >David Liu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 22:34:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA130817639; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:33:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07812; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:32:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:27:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07337; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:27:46 -0500 Received: from wdl1.wdl.lmco.com ([137.249.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07329; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:27:36 -0500 Received: from conic.lmco.com by wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (SMI-8.6/WDL-5.0) id TAA11227; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:27:30 -0800 Message-Id: <32E43846.16C5@conic.lmco.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:30:14 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Organization: Lockheed Martin Conic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP760E Memory Cover Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I don't know if anyone else has been annoyed by the cover over the RAM expansion coming off when you pick up your Thinkpad, but I sure have. When I sent my machine in for an unrelated Ez-Serv, I was happly to see they installed a new cover for the memory expansion that has a latch to avoid this problem. I don't know how wide spread IBM is making this available, but it will keep me from pulling that cover off unexpectely. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 23:19:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA137980345; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:19:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11149; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:17:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:13:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10897; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:13:39 -0500 Received: from goldilocks.LCS.MIT.EDU (goldilocks.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10878; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:13:34 -0500 Received: from ursa-minor (ursa-minor-home.lcs.mit.edu) by goldilocks.LCS.MIT.EDU (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA14031; Mon, 20 Jan 97 23:13:22 EST Sender: ilh@goldilocks.lcs.mit.edu Message-Id: <32E44238.9164F99@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:12:40 -0500 From: Lee Hetherington Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.25 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP760E Memory Cover References: <32E43846.16C5@conic.lmco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I had this problem on my 760C. That is why I long ago scotch taped it shut with about 1" of tape. A hack, but it works! -- Lee Hetherington ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 23:32:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA140511163; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:32:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12504; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:31:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:27:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12018; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:27:21 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12007; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:27:16 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (151.bridgeton-066.mo.dial-access.att.net [207.146.143.151]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12520; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:32:11 -0700 Message-Id: <32E43CDA.659@wwsi.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:49:46 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Hanson Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: XFREE86 on an IBM thinkpad 755cx X-Priority: Normal References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry, Chris. I'm not near my server right now, so I can't give you the exact link. Basically, on the front page, scroll down until you see the Linux penguin and hit the link for the Linux on Thinkpads (not the Penguin, which will take you to the Linux group pages). Sorry about the difficulties! ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Electronic Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 20 23:34:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA140911244; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:34:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12594; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:31:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:28:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12098; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:28:07 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12092; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:28:01 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (151.bridgeton-066.mo.dial-access.att.net [207.146.143.151]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12554; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:33:06 -0700 Message-Id: <32E444ED.6FFC@wwsi.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:24:13 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP760E Memory Cover X-Priority: Normal References: <32E43846.16C5@conic.lmco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tom Franklin wrote: > I don't know if anyone else has been annoyed by the cover over the RAM > expansion coming off when you pick up your Thinkpad, but I sure have. > When I sent my machine in for an unrelated Ez-Serv, I was happly to see > they installed a new cover for the memory expansion that has a latch to > avoid this problem. Thanks! It bugs the heck out of me! I'm afraid I'm going to lose the cover on a plane or something! Now, I guess I need to send it in just to get a new cover, eh? ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Electronic Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 00:04:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA146263060; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 00:04:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15471; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 00:02:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:58:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14970; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:58:39 -0500 Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu (martigny.ai.mit.edu [18.43.0.152]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14960; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:58:35 -0500 Received: from flenser.ai.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA145422710; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:58:30 -0500 Received: by flenser.ai.mit.edu id m0vmYI2-0001boC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:58:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:58:30 -0500 (EST) From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: ssh@wwsi.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <32E43CDA.659@wwsi.com> (ssh@wwsi.com) Subject: XFREE86 on an IBM thinkpad 755cx X-Mailer: Edwin [version 3.91, MIT Scheme Release 7.5a] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:49:46 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Sorry, Chris. I'm not near my server right now, so I can't give you the exact link. Basically, on the front page, scroll down until you see the Linux penguin and hit the link for the Linux on Thinkpads (not the Penguin, which will take you to the Linux group pages). Sorry about the difficulties! ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Electronic Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ Wups... sorry about _my_ mistake. I misread your post and was looking at "www.wsi.com"! No problem finding the information once I got the right page. Sorry again. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 09:05:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA230595545; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:05:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28193; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:03:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:57:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27472; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:57:25 -0500 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27465; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:57:22 -0500 Received: from CLAUDIA ([129.126.232.4]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA25854 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:55:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199701211355.AA25854@kodakr.kodak.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:02:00 -0500 From: "King, Randall" Subject: Part upgrade for 760EL To: thinkpad X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hey all, I just wanted to let you know that IBM has a replacement part for the 760EL series. It seems that there was a problem when you tried to put more that one 32 Meg DIMM in the adapter. One of the technoweenies over here (hey, I count myself as one!) got his hands on two 32 Meggers, and it hosed his system. Once I got ahold of IBM they said that they knew of the problem, and overnighted a new memory adapter to me (the thing you actually plug the DIMMs into). All I had to do was return the old one. This is only on some of the older 760EL's, and I don't remember exactly how the person knew I needed one, but it was based on the part number of the adapter. It was free, so if you have an EL, maybe you should give them a call. RK From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 10:23:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA244230196; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:23:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07065; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:21:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:16:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06376; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:16:23 -0500 Received: from emout05.mail.aol.com (emout05.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06370; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:16:16 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA12250 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:15:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:15:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970121101211_947010038@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 560 RAM slots Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all, I have a TP 560 in which I had my supplier add a 16MB module. I am now thinking of putting in another 16MB to take it up to the max 40MB. Can anyone tell me if I can do this ie are there two slots for RAM? Has anyone actually done this so far? Thanks for your help Jayan Patel From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 10:45:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA249101533; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:45:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09635; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:43:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:39:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09061; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:39:08 -0500 Received: from chelsea.ios.com (root@chelsea.ios.com [198.4.75.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09047; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:39:03 -0500 Received: from NYLS2TEST.btco.com (ppp-69.ts-13.nyc.idt.net [169.132.100.141]) by chelsea.ios.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA19915 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:38:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701211538.KAA19915@chelsea.ios.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Mark M. Ingerman" Organization: Creative Software Solutions To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:40:43 -0400 Subject: Win95 OS2 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have seen a lot of traffic about the new version of Win95 on this forum. I was wondering, does anybody know what the major improvments and enhancements are? Is it really worth upgrading too? I quickly browsed the Microsoft web site, but didn't get any real information. Mark M. Ingerman Creative Software Solutions, Inc. (508) 394-5899 ingerman@cs2.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 10:49:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA249761776; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:49:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09633; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:43:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:39:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09042; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:38:58 -0500 Received: from chelsea.ios.com (root@chelsea.ios.com [198.4.75.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09034; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:38:53 -0500 Received: from NYLS2TEST.btco.com (ppp-69.ts-13.nyc.idt.net [169.132.100.141]) by chelsea.ios.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA19909 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:38:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701211538.KAA19909@chelsea.ios.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Mark M. Ingerman" Organization: Creative Software Solutions To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:40:44 -0400 Subject: Price of 365's Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My sister is looking to get a notebook computer, and I noticed a sale for 365s. One had a P120/8Mb/810MB/TFT display and a 4x CD Rom. Does anyone know what a good price for one of these are? I am not familiar with the 365 series. Does it have the MWAVE chip? What is the difference between the 365 series and the 755 series. I can also get the larger 11.3 inch display but it is the dual scan for $100 less. Does anyone have a preference. I prefer the TFT, but maybe the extra inch matters. Any comments would be appreciated Mark M. Ingerman Creative Software Solutions, Inc. (508) 394-5899 ingerman@cs2.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 11:14:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA255913240; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:14:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13126; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:12:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:08:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12531; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:08:14 -0500 Received: from wdl1.wdl.lmco.com ([137.249.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12514; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:08:10 -0500 Received: from conic.lmco.com by wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (SMI-8.6/WDL-5.0) id IAA01034; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:07:25 -0800 Message-Id: <32E4EA6B.51B6@conic.lmco.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:10:19 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Organization: Lockheed Martin Conic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Mark M. Ingerman" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Win95 OSR2 References: <199701211538.KAA19915@chelsea.ios.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Mark M. Ingerman wrote: > > I have seen a lot of traffic about the new version of Win95 on this > forum. I was wondering, does anybody know what the major improvments > and enhancements are? Is it really worth upgrading too? I quickly > browsed the Microsoft web site, but didn't get any real information. There is a pretty good FAQ on OSR2 at: http://ling.ucsd.edu/~erwin/osr2.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 12:07:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA268146468; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:07:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19586; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:05:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:58:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18565; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:58:22 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (CNRI.Reston.VA.US [132.151.1.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18344; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:56:06 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa14154; 21 Jan 97 11:47 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA26374; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:44:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:44:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199701211644.LAA26374@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> From: Ken Manheimer To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Dead in the water with bad disk partition - help? Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US X-Mailer: VM 5.96 (beta) / 19.14 XEmacs Lucid Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In a few careless moves i may have fouled up my 701CS thinkpad harddisk (710 mb) partitioning so badly that i may have to send the disk back to IBM for repair. I'm wondering whether anyone recognizes enough about what's going on to advise me on the next step. I've been happily running linux and dos/windows 3.1 on the machine for quite a while, with little glitches here and there to keep me occupied. Upon struggling to get a new iomega zip drive recognized by the dos/win side, i finally decided to migrate to Win95 for plug n play. (After backing stuff up to a zip disk from the linux side - linux recognized the zip drive out of the box, incidentally.) I forged ahead with the win95 preparations, and recklessly (ab)used fdisk. I first removed the DOS partition - dumb shortcut - and then under linux fdisk, also removed the OS/2 boot partition - no good reason, sigh. I put to the DOS partition back so it encompassed the old OS/2 boot and DOS partitions. In the process i made the machine so it cannot be booted while the hardisk is in the machine. Even when trying to boot from the floppy drive, the machine will do the memory check and then freeze with the number 84 in the bottom of the screen. It will boot to the floppy if the harddisk is displaced from the machine. I'm afraid i know what's happening. It has something to do with the harddisk password - i guess it was somewhere on the parts of the disk i changed around (the purported risks of fooling with non-dos fdisk?). Which could mean that the machine is specifically designed to prohibit booting up with this disk, due to a perceived password mismatch - or at least, mistrust of perceived corruption of secure territory. So i guess my questions are: - Is there any way for me to reset the harddisk partition - something i can do to get it online, so i can eg do an 'fdisk /mbr'? - Failing that, should i call ibm tech support and pay the $35 to talk to the OS group (i bought the machine 1.5 years ago, but the os is only covered for 60 days, and then not if you're messing with a foreign os...), supposing that they can instruct me to recover the disk? - Or should i simply arrange to pay the $170 to send the disk back to IBM and have them reinstall the original OS? Thanks for listening to my foolish exploits. I welcome any constructive clues! Ken Manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us 703 620-8990 x268 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 13:00:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA280979652; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:00:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25191; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:58:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:54:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24809; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:54:14 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24798; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:54:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id MAA09981; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:54:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:54:58 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Ken Manheimer Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Dead in the water with bad disk partition - help? In-Reply-To: <199701211644.LAA26374@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Please excuse the long quotes. On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Ken Manheimer wrote: > In a few careless moves i may have fouled up my 701CS thinkpad > harddisk (710 mb) partitioning so badly that i may have to send the > ... > I forged ahead with the win95 preparations, and recklessly (ab)used > fdisk. I first removed the DOS partition - dumb shortcut - and then > under linux fdisk, also removed the OS/2 boot partition - no good > reason, sigh. I put to the DOS partition back so it encompassed the > old OS/2 boot and DOS partitions. In the process i made the machine > so it cannot be booted while the hardisk is in the machine. > > Even when trying to boot from the floppy drive, the machine will do > the memory check and then freeze with the number 84 in the bottom of > the screen. It will boot to the floppy if the harddisk is displaced > from the machine. I did the same thing, although not in the same sequence. I'd partitioned it with OS/2 and Linux fdisk, but it didn't die until I did another fdisk with DOS. Same freeze and error number. Since the last program to touch it was DOS fdisk, I was able to convince IBM it was a hardware problem and not my fault ("You're telling me I can make a Thinkpad disk unusable by just repartitioning the hard disk with DOS fdisk!?"). I don't think this is a password problem because I don't use passwords on my 701. If it were a password problem, wouldn't it ask for a HD password? > - Is there any way for me to reset the harddisk partition - something > i can do to get it online, so i can eg do an 'fdisk /mbr'? I only had a floppy drive to work with, but like you said, it hangs before it even checks the floppy. You might try buying a 2.5" IDE adapter and putting the drive on a desktop machine and fdisk'ing it from there. > - Failing that, should i call ibm tech support and pay the $35 to > talk to the OS group (i bought the machine 1.5 years ago, but the > os is only covered for 60 days, and then not if you're messing with > a foreign os...), supposing that they can instruct me to recover > the disk? > > - Or should i simply arrange to pay the $170 to send the disk back to > IBM and have them reinstall the original OS? If it's only 1.5 years old, it should still be under warranty. Tell them you were repartitioning when the hard disk stopped working. When they replace the drive, the new one comes with all the original software installed. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 13:06:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA281539970; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:06:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25945; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:05:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:59:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25270; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:59:48 -0500 Received: from moondance.np.ac.sg (moondance.np.ac.sg [153.20.24.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25258; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:59:43 -0500 Received: (uucp@localhost) by moondance.np.ac.sg (8.7.1/8.7.1) id BAA18600 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:53:00 GMT Received: from 93202707@mercury.np.ac.sg(153.20.24.81) by moondance.np.ac.sg via smap (V1.3) id sma018596; Wed Jan 22 01:52:48 1997 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:59:16 +0800 (SGT) From: Loke Teng Yan <93202707@mercury.np.ac.sg> X-Sender: 93202707@mercury Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: FACTORY Program in TP760ELD In-Reply-To: <32d6b57c.24033806@mailgate.execpc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I have another question to ask. The FACTORY.EXE program used to make installation diskettes from the disk images in the \DISKETTS directory required 2MB diskettes. Does this mean unformatted? If so, can I use 3.5" 1.44MB formatted diskettes? I tried using those diskettes, but it seems like not all files were created, and after copying, I was still prompted to insert another new diskette. What gives? Please help, thanks. Teng Yan Loke aka Cow | lokety@post1.com | finger for PGP key | Quake Software Engineer / Self-employed | HP100LX | OS/2 Warp => MW2/Myst/SC2K/Relentless Infopages ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 13:32:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA286201532; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:32:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29424; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:27:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:16:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27441; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:16:31 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27405; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:16:17 -0500 Received: from 701c (liv-59.rust.net [206.42.195.159]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.4/8.8.0) with SMTP id NAA20728 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:15:02 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970121130753.006f6678@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 5 (32) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:07:53 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: PCMCIA APM: Sleep mode in Win95 suspend Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:04 AM 1/16/97 -0500, you wrote: > I have been playing around with the 32 bit Windows 95 pcmcia drivers in >place of my old 16 bit counter parts. The new ones work ok but there seems >to be no sleep mode on my pc card modem when I place the 701C into suspend. > The old 16 bit program called power.exe did. The APM is installed and >says it's working. Microsoft's Internet Support Wizard library says the >701c supports APM 1.1 but I must be missing something. FYI: by suspend I >mean Fn + F4. Anybody have any ideas? > >B/B >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb > "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I may have an answer to my own question. Looking around the Win95 OEM Release 2 site http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pr/win95osr.htm I came across, under Hardware Support, Power Management Improvements: Support for Advanced Power Management (APM) 1.2 BIOS, wake-on-ring for modems, multi-battery PC's, drive spin down, and powering down of inactive PCMCIA modems. The last item "powering down of inactive PCMCIA modems" is what I was looking for. This is not available as a separate download. I will post when it is... B/B ======================================================================= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "At Radio Shack, You've Got Questions? We've Got Blank Stares." ======================================================================= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 14:00:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA291743207; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:00:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02591; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:58:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:54:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02070; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:54:21 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (CNRI.Reston.VA.US [132.151.1.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02017; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:54:03 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa17143; 21 Jan 97 13:31 EST Received: from localhost by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA26674; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:28:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:28:30 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Manheimer X-Sender: klm@glyph Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US To: "John H. Kim" Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Dead in the water with bad disk partition - help? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks, john, for the quick response! On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, John H. Kim wrote: > Please excuse the long quotes. Ditto - though i'll probably excise mercelessly. > On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Ken Manheimer wrote: > > > In a few careless moves i may have fouled up my 701CS thinkpad > > harddisk (710 mb) partitioning so badly that i may have to send the > ("You're telling me I can make a Thinkpad disk unusable by just > repartitioning the hard disk with DOS fdisk!?"). We'll see what happens - they're sending a coffin for me to ship my machine back to them. > I don't think this is a password problem because I don't use > passwords on my 701. If it were a password problem, wouldn't > it ask for a HD password? Dunno, but the tech support guy was equally dubious about my password matching theory. Plus, i didn't have any password set, and toggling the password in the prom configure utility (by booting without the disk) didn't help, either. I still have a nagging suspicion that it's something to do with the special provisions for harddisk password protection. But we may never know... > > - Is there any way for me to reset the harddisk partition - something > > i can do to get it online, so i can eg do an 'fdisk /mbr'? > > I only had a floppy drive to work with, but like you said, it > hangs before it even checks the floppy. You might try buying > a 2.5" IDE adapter and putting the drive on a desktop machine > and fdisk'ing it from there. Hmm, perhaps one of the machines around here already has such. I just don't know about the cabling, etc. (Connectors. I hate connectors.) > If it's only 1.5 years old, it should still be under warranty. > Tell them you were repartitioning when the hard disk stopped > working. When they replace the drive, the new one comes with > all the original software installed. It depends on whether they see it as a software or hardware problem. Software (OS) is not covered very long. There's something to be said for both sides - i was mucking about with another OS, but then if they made it unreasonably susceptible, they may just be responsible. We'll see. Anyway, thanks again for the info! ken manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us (703) 620-8990 x268 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 15:05:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA005527110; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:05:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09222; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:00:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:55:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08750; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:55:17 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08697; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:55:03 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-5 #9830) id <01IEH0HJ7NEOC7L4J5@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:53:52 MST Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:28:32 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Dead in the water with bad disk partition - help? In-Reply-To: "Message dated Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:44:46 -0500" <199701211644.LAA26374@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IEH4N8BP5CC7L4J5@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Even when trying to boot from the floppy drive, the machine will do > the memory check and then freeze with the number 84 in the bottom of > the screen. It will boot to the floppy if the harddisk is displaced > from the machine. I don't know if 84 means a password error but if this is anything like my 755 you could try booting the hardware maintenance diskette which has a low-level format utility on it. I bought the one I have from IBM but I'd guess if it's available at all it'd also be on the ftp host. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 15:11:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA006927495; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:11:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10524; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:09:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:04:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09712; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:04:55 -0500 Received: from isomedia.com (mail.isomedia.com [204.157.237.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09696; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:04:46 -0500 Received: from billprat (pm2-029.isomedia.com [206.129.160.93]) by isomedia.com (8.6.10/8) with ESMTP id MAA29792; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:02:54 -0800 Message-Id: <199701212002.MAA29792@isomedia.com> From: "Bill Pratt" To: , "Bill Bryan" Subject: Re: PCMCIA APM: Sleep mode in Win95 suspend Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:02:00 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thank you...thank you...thank you!!!! Looking forward to this release and a posting of the upgrade. Regards, Bill Pratt, Bellevue, WA "No matter where you go...there you are"! billp117@isomedia.com http://www.isomedia.com/homes/billp117 > The last item "powering down of inactive PCMCIA modems" is what I was > looking for. This is not available as a separate download. I will post > when it is... > > > B/B > ======================================================================= > Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb > "At Radio Shack, You've Got Questions? We've Got Blank Stares." > ======================================================================= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 15:15:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA007877753; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:15:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10927; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:11:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:06:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10100; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:06:53 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09981; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:06:26 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-h-05.usc.edu [128.125.224.5]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id MAA06755; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:06:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970121115116.0190e7d4@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:06:20 -0800 To: From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: TP 560 RAM slots Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:15 AM 1/21/97 -0500, JayanP1@aol.com wrote: >I have a TP 560 in which I had my supplier add a 16MB module. I am now >thinking of putting in another 16MB to take it up to the max 40MB. Can anyone >tell me if I can do this ie are there two slots for RAM? Has anyone actually >done this so far? The 560 has only one slot for memory. If you want to upgrade your memory, you're going to have to ditch your existing 16 MB module. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 15:16:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA008037787; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:16:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10903; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:11:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:06:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09996; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:06:31 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09984; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:06:27 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-h-05.usc.edu [128.125.224.5]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id MAA06760; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:06:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970121115742.0190decc@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:06:22 -0800 To: Loke Teng Yan <93202707@mercury.np.ac.sg> From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: FACTORY Program in TP760ELD Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:59 AM 1/22/97 +0800, Loke Teng Yan wrote: >The FACTORY.EXE program used to make installation diskettes from the disk >images in the \DISKETTS directory required 2MB diskettes. Does this mean >unformatted? If so, can I use 3.5" 1.44MB formatted diskettes? Yes to both. Technically, a 1.44MB diskette is a formatted 2 MB diskette. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 15:26:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA010498387; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:26:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12771; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:23:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:18:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11863; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:18:34 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11808; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:18:24 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id PAA10790; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:18:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:18:12 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: billy@MIX.COM Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Dead in the water with bad disk partition - help? In-Reply-To: <01IEH4N8BP5CC7L4J5@Opus1.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 21 Jan 1997 billy@MIX.COM wrote: > > Even when trying to boot from the floppy drive, the machine will do > > the memory check and then freeze with the number 84 in the bottom of > > the screen. It will boot to the floppy if the harddisk is displaced > > from the machine. > > I don't know if 84 means a password error but if this is anything > like my 755 you could try booting the hardware maintenance diskette > which has a low-level format utility on it. I bought the one I have > from IBM but I'd guess if it's available at all it'd also be on the > ftp host. The machine won't even boot if the hard drive is installed. It goes through the BIOS check (ram count, check hardware, etc.) and freezes before it even does a floppy seek to begin booting. That's why I convinced IBM it was a hardware problem. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 15:55:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA016910108; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:55:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16367; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:52:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:47:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15826; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:47:32 -0500 Received: from rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov (rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.126.88]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15819; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:47:22 -0500 Received: (from porter@localhost) by rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov (LHEA9504/950407.s1) id PAA29676; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:47:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:47:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Dr. F. Scott Porter NASA/GSFC" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Toshiba 1.3GB hard disk in thinkpad 560 In-Reply-To: <199701212002.MAA29792@isomedia.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi. I have a thinkpad 560 P100 with an 800MB IBM hard disk. I have successfully installed a Toshiba MK1301MAV 1.3GB 12.5mm hard disk in my machine. Even though the 560 has no accessible bios hard disk settings the machine correctly identified and utilized the drive. "Plug it in and it works". The machine is still under warrantee but IBM gives you explicit instructions on how to disassemble a 560 on their web site: http://www3.pc.ibm.com:80/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/s82g1503/CCONTENTS I guess if they didn't want you to take it apart they wouldn't tell you how to do it. Also you can order every single piece of the machine as a replacement part directly from IBM: http://direct.boulder.ibm.com/us/parts/thinkpad/tpad560.htm The parts are amazingly cheap except for the LCD/HD/system board. You can buy a new pcmcia drive cage, cables, and connectors for $21 if you bend the pins on yours. Now the real question is whether the 560 bios can support a 2.1GB 12.5 mm drive.... -- Scott. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. F. Scott Porter Internet: porter@rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center Office: (301)286-5016 Code 662 FAX: (301)286-1684 Greenbelt, MD 20771 WWW: http://lheawww.gsfc.nasa.gov/~porter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 16:21:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA022551641; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:20:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19111; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:16:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:11:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18422; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:11:20 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18414; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:11:14 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA05109; Tue, 21 Jan 97 11:10:53 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA28806; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:11:28 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199701212111.LAA28806@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Dead in the water with bad disk partition - help? To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 11:11:27 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "John H. Kim" at Jan 21, 97 3:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > The machine won't even boot if the hard drive is installed. It > goes through the BIOS check (ram count, check hardware, etc.) > and freezes before it even does a floppy seek to begin booting. > That's why I convinced IBM it was a hardware problem. My 701 is so flaky that after 3 returns to EZS tey are going to replace the machine. Similar symptoms, probably different cause. However, I learned some things in the last month that might be helpful: (1) You *might* be able to have the machine boot from a floppy even with the HD in by giving it the A: C: sequence in the BIOS. If it doesn't boot the first time, when you freeze on 84 go to the test utility, and from there tell it to restart. After your restart you might see the floppy but not the HD; sometimes a c-a-d reboot will solve this as well. (2) THE UNDOCUMENTED ADVANCED DIAGNOSTICS: Sorry for the all-caps, but every 701 owner should know about this (which is not in the manual). When in the diag utility, -A brings up an extra set of utils (loop tests, etc). From here there are even some other possibilities, like -E. One of these will let you low-level format your HD! For details, see... (3) Repair manual on-line(!) I don't remember the exact path to it, but somewhere on www.pc.ibm.com there are field service manuals for all the thinkpads, including the 701 (they are grouped by dates instead of model, look for the one that covers 1995). Full of all kinds of goodies, and explains why EZ-serve never caught my intermittent error (the service recommendation for an error that can't be immediately reproduced is to not do anything!) BTW, apparently IBM has the policy of replacing a TP on its 4th return to EZ-serve, if the customer requests. EZ-serve will deny this; you have to do an end-run around them to IBM Customer Relations. I'll find out this week what they can give me in place of my current machine; I hope another 701, since I like the form factor, besides which I've bought an extra memory and a spare battery for it. (Which other thinkpads will the TP701 16meg SO-DIMM work in?) - David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 17:26:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA035595567; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:26:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27332; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:23:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:17:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26714; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:17:28 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26707; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:17:24 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA05135; Tue, 21 Jan 97 11:16:51 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA28853; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:17:27 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199701212117.LAA28853@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Win95 OS2 To: ingerman@chelsea.ios.com (Mark M. Ingerman) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 11:17:25 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199701211538.KAA19915@chelsea.ios.com>; from "Mark M. Ingerman" at Jan 21, 97 10:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I have seen a lot of traffic about the new version of Win95 on this > forum. I was wondering, does anybody know what the major improvments > and enhancements are? We just bought a Micron laptop with OSR2 on it; since I've not before been a W95 user I can't really compare, but I *did* learn one thing: some drivers, written for W95, will crash OSR2. This happened when I tried to install drivers for my Lexmark Optra. After the crash, and I reinstalled the OS etc, I found a discussion of this on the Lexmark site. They claim that the new API is unstable. - David R. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 20:49:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA077887782; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:49:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15255; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:48:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:43:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14606; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:43:04 -0500 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14599; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:42:58 -0500 Received: from homer17.u.washington.edu (homer17.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.1]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA03722; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:41:36 -0800 Received: from localhost (mjk@localhost) by homer17.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA26498; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:42:55 -0800 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:42:55 -0800 (PST) From: Myoung-Jun Kim To: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: suspend/resume in NT 4.0 In-Reply-To: <2e4ee900@ima.jud.ca.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu 24 mb is OK for NT. No problem. But, you need a lot of HDD space to install it. NT is not much bigger than Windows 95, but much stable. The problem is the installation program makes a copy of the distribution without installing diretly from the CDROM. I don't know why. Anyway, I don't have a CDROM. So, what I did is: copy the distribution into HDD (130MB). Run winnt.exe in DOS which makes 3 boot disks & installation image in HDD (consume another 130MB). If you still have 100MB+ space, go on the installation by rebooting. If not, remove the copy of the distribution, and go on. I still looking for right drives for video & sound. I remember NT CDROM has them somewhere. Well. ------------------------------------------------- Dr. Myoung-Jun Kim, U of Washington BOX 352650 Seattle WA 98195 On Tue, 21 Jan 1997 Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov wrote: > Received: from [198.232.147.11] by ima.jud.ca.gov with SMTP > (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 2e1f2b30; Sun, 19 Jan 97 02:08:51 -0800 > Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mail2.pilot.net with SMT > P id CAA28969 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 02:12:04 -0800 (PST > ) > Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) > id FAA01950; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 05:11:24 -0500 > Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 19 Jan 1997 05:04:53 -0500 > Received: > by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) > id FAA01394; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 05:04:51 -0500 > Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24] > ) > by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) > id FAA01388; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 05:04:48 -0500 > Received: from homer30.u.washington.edu (homer30.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.8]) > > by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP > id BAA23650 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 01:19:59 -0800 > Received: from localhost (mjk@localhost) > by homer30.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP > id BAA46730 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 01:23:55 -0800 > Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 01:23:55 -0800 (PST) > From: Myoung-Jun Kim > To: thinkpad > Subject: suspend/resume in NT 4.0 > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 21 20:52:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA078277959; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:52:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15742; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:51:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:47:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15036; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:47:17 -0500 Received: from barney.usu.edu (barney.usu.edu [129.123.1.89]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15030; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:47:14 -0500 Received: from Foobar.usu.edu (asy42.xy1.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IEHGYO6R2Y8ZDUZQ@cc.usu.edu>; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:46:44 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:46:39 -0700 From: G Alvandian Subject: Re: Dead in the water with bad disk partition - help? To: David Ross Cc: "John H. Kim" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <32E5717F.2541@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199701212111.LAA28806@tarski.hawaii.edu> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu David Ross wrote: > > > The machine won't even boot if the hard drive is installed. It > > goes through the BIOS check (ram count, check hardware, etc.) > > and freezes before it even does a floppy seek to begin booting. > > That's why I convinced IBM it was a hardware problem. > > My 701 is so flaky that after 3 returns to EZS tey are going to replace > the machine. Similar symptoms, probably different cause. However, I > learned some things in the last month that might be helpful: > > (1) You *might* be able to have the machine boot from a floppy even with > the HD in by giving it the A: C: sequence in the BIOS. If it doesn't > boot the first time, when you freeze on 84 go to the test utility, and > from there tell it to restart. After your restart you might see the > floppy but not the HD; sometimes a c-a-d reboot will solve this as well. > > (2) THE UNDOCUMENTED ADVANCED DIAGNOSTICS: Sorry for the all-caps, but > every 701 owner should know about this (which is not in the manual). > When in the diag utility, -A brings up an extra set of utils (loop > tests, etc). From here there are even some other possibilities, like > -E. One of these will let you low-level format your HD! For > details, see... > > (3) Repair manual on-line(!) I don't remember the exact path to it, but > somewhere on www.pc.ibm.com there are field service manuals for all the > thinkpads, including the 701 (they are grouped by dates instead of > model, look for the one that covers 1995). Full of all kinds of > goodies, and explains why EZ-serve never caught my intermittent error > (the service recommendation for an error that can't be immediately > reproduced is to not do anything!) > > BTW, apparently IBM has the policy of replacing a TP on its 4th return > to EZ-serve, if the customer requests. EZ-serve will deny this; you have to do an end-run around > them to IBM Customer Relations. > > I'll find out this week what they can give me in place of my current > machine; I hope another 701, since I like the form factor, besides which > I've bought an extra memory and a spare battery for it. (Which other > thinkpads will the TP701 16meg SO-DIMM work in?) > > - David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) My 701 will probably be going in for the third time for the same intermittent problem. I can't hot swap batteries in suspend, it just powers down as soon as the battery comes out, they supposedly replaced both uppper and lower system boards and gave me 2 new Nimh batteries and still the problem persists. And you're right I questioned the woman at easy serve as to how many times I had to send it in before it was considered a lemon and she said 4 after that its time to replace it or possibly give you credit towards part of the price of a newer model. Probably the case since the 701's are discontinued. But let me know what deal you get incase I have to go that route too. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 00:05:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA113519533; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:05:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01677; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:04:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 23:57:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01043; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 23:57:56 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01037; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 23:57:51 -0500 Received: from user-37kb96o.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb96o.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.216]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA35200; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 23:57:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199701220457.XAA35200@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Dr. F. Scott Porter NASA/GSFC" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 23:57:43 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Toshiba 1.3GB hard disk in thinkpad 560 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The manuals are the service manuals for authorized servicers. Because the hard drive is not listed as a user replaceable part, you basicallt don't have a warranty any more. On Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:47:03 -0500 (EST), Dr. F. Scott Porter NASA/GSFC wrote: >Hi. I have a thinkpad 560 P100 with an 800MB IBM hard disk. I have >successfully installed a Toshiba MK1301MAV 1.3GB 12.5mm hard disk in my >machine. Even though the 560 has no accessible bios hard disk settings >the machine correctly identified and utilized the drive. "Plug it in and >it works". The machine is still under warrantee but IBM gives you >explicit instructions on how to disassemble a 560 on their web site: > >http://www3.pc.ibm.com:80/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/s82g1503/CCONTENTS > >I guess if they didn't want you to take it apart they wouldn't tell >you how to do it. Also you can order every single piece of the machine as >a replacement part directly from IBM: > >http://direct.boulder.ibm.com/us/parts/thinkpad/tpad560.htm > >The parts are amazingly cheap except for the LCD/HD/system board. You can >buy a new pcmcia drive cage, cables, and connectors for $21 if you bend >the pins on yours. > >Now the real question is whether the 560 bios can support a 2.1GB 12.5 mm >drive.... > > -- Scott. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Dr. F. Scott Porter Internet: porter@rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov >NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center Office: (301)286-5016 >Code 662 FAX: (301)286-1684 >Greenbelt, MD 20771 WWW: http://lheawww.gsfc.nasa.gov/~porter >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 00:16:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA115940183; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:16:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03626; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:15:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:11:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02560; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:11:08 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02550; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:11:02 -0500 Received: from user-37kb96o.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb96o.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.216]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA29338; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:10:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199701220510.AAA29338@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Steve Hultquist" , "tomf@conic.lmco.com" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 22 Jan 97 00:10:28 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP760E Memory Cover Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Call IBM & they will be able to send you a replacement cover. On Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:24:13 -0700, Steve Hultquist wrote: >Tom Franklin wrote: >> I don't know if anyone else has been annoyed by the cover over the RAM >> expansion coming off when you pick up your Thinkpad, but I sure have. >> When I sent my machine in for an unrelated Ez-Serv, I was happly to see >> they installed a new cover for the memory expansion that has a latch to >> avoid this problem. > >Thanks! It bugs the heck out of me! I'm afraid I'm going to lose the >cover on a plane or something! Now, I guess I need to send it in just to >get a new cover, eh? > >ssh >-- >Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. >Electronic Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado >mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 00:18:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA116110298; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:18:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03931; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:17:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:12:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02804; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:12:17 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02781; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:12:13 -0500 Received: from user-37kb96o.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb96o.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.216]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA15832; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:11:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199701220511.AAA15832@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Lee Hetherington" , "tomf@conic.lmco.com" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 22 Jan 97 00:11:15 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP760E Memory Cover Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Call IBM & they will send you the new improved cover. On Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:12:40 -0500, Lee Hetherington wrote: >I had this problem on my 760C. That is why I long ago scotch taped it >shut with about 1" of tape. A hack, but it works! >-- >Lee Hetherington >ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 01:49:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA132605761; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:49:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09430; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:48:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:44:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09097; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:44:16 -0500 Received: from pathway1.pathcom.com (pathway1.pathcom.com [204.191.122.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09091; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:44:13 -0500 Received: from pppuser.uoguelph.ca (ppp01-56.net.uoguelph.ca [131.104.11.156]) by pathway1.pathcom.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA02945 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:44:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701220644.BAA02945@pathway1.pathcom.com> From: "yang zhao" To: Subject: PPP setup Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 01:27:21 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, there, I was trying to setup my PPP connection in Linux on my thinkpad 755 CD. I have a 28.8 Mwave modem. The porblem is that Linux does not recongize my modem when it does initialization. Does anyone know about the "Initialization String" for Mwave modem. Also my X-windows is still running under VGA. Is there anyone who is runing X-windows under Super VGA. My video card is Western digits(always) and LCD frequency(vertical and horizentail) is unknown(I think that is why I am using standard VGA). Thankx. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 02:00:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA134376399; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:59:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02711; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:11:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:06:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01947; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:06:38 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01936; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:06:34 -0500 Received: from user-37kb96o.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb96o.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.216]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA13740; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:06:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199701220506.AAA13740@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Mark M. Ingerman" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 22 Jan 97 00:06:25 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Price of 365's Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It does not have mwave, uses ESS audio for sound & no modem. The main difference between the 365x & 760e series (755's are no longer made) is the quality & warranty. 365 have only one year, 760 3 years. The feel and performance are not as good as the 760e's. They are also about $3000 less. On Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:40:44 -0400, Mark M. Ingerman wrote: >My sister is looking to get a notebook computer, and I noticed a sale >for 365s. One had a P120/8Mb/810MB/TFT display and a 4x CD Rom. >Does anyone know what a good price for one of these are? I am not >familiar with the 365 series. Does it have the MWAVE chip? What is >the difference between the 365 series and the 755 series. > >I can also get the larger 11.3 inch display but it is the dual scan >for $100 less. Does anyone have a preference. I prefer the TFT, but >maybe the extra inch matters. Any comments would be appreciated >Mark M. Ingerman >Creative Software Solutions, Inc. >(508) 394-5899 >ingerman@cs2.com jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 03:10:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA147770621; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:10:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16138; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:09:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:06:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15616; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:06:04 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15607; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:06:01 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA06933; Tue, 21 Jan 97 22:05:58 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA29256; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 22:06:34 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199701220806.WAA29256@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Mysterious TP701 speedup To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 22:06:33 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199701110901.XAA10506@cartan.hawaii.edu>; from "David Ross" at Jan 10, 97 11:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, the final verdict on my mysterious 701C speedup seems to be that my system was permanently in 'AUTO' position (instead of '75/25'), despite my apparent BIOS setting to the contrary (as reported in the Config screen). This conclusion follows from the Wintune 2.0 reports poeple sent me: the AUTO results were similar to my pre-EZserve results, the 75/25 similar to mine after EZ-serve. (Special thanks to rj@cais for suggesting something like this.) It is all moot anyway at this point, since my 701 is destined for the scrap heap. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 03:13:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA148330828; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:13:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16643; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:13:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:09:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16083; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:09:17 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA16068; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:09:14 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA06942; Tue, 21 Jan 97 22:09:10 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA29264; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 22:09:46 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199701220809.WAA29264@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: 2 different TFT displays on the 701C? To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 22:09:45 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199701220806.WAA29256@tarski.hawaii.edu>; from "David Ross" at Jan 21, 97 10:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu While surfing the IBM parts website recently I noticed that they sell *3* replacement screens for the 701: a dual scan for the 701CS, and two different TFT screens for the 701C. (There is a _big_ price difference between the two screens!) Can anyone here clarify what the difference is? - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 04:59:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA164137148; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 04:59:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00456; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 04:58:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 04:53:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29895; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 04:53:21 -0500 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem094.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.94]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA29875; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 04:53:07 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id BAA00280; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:50:22 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: root@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199701220644.BAA02945@pathway1.pathcom.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:47:58 -0800 (PST) From: derelict To: yang zhao Subject: RE: PPP setup Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I also have a TP755CD. Basicly, the mwave modem will never work. If you want to have modem use in Linux, you have to buy a pcmcia modem. Almost all of them will work with linux. In fact, that's what I'm using right now.... -Mike On 07-Jan-96 yang zhao wrote: >Hi, there, I was trying to setup my PPP connection in Linux on my thinkpad >755 CD. >I have a 28.8 Mwave modem. The porblem is that Linux does not recongize my >modem when it does initialization. Does anyone know about the >"Initialization String" for Mwave modem. Also my X-windows is still running >under VGA. Is there anyone who is runing X-windows under Super VGA. My >video card is Western digits(always) and LCD frequency(vertical and >horizentail) is unknown(I think that is why I am using standard VGA). > >Thankx. -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 07:21:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA185815697; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:21:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA15291; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:21:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:15:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12609; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 06:27:38 -0500 Received: from enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA12569; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 06:27:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 10340 invoked from network); 22 Jan 1997 11:27:23 -0000 Received: from belial-49.d.enteract.com (207.112.154.58) by babel.enteract.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 1997 11:27:23 -0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 2 different TFT displays on the 701C? Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:31:03 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32ecfa15.9101324@smtp.enteract.com> References: <199701220809.WAA29264@tarski.hawaii.edu> In-Reply-To: <199701220809.WAA29264@tarski.hawaii.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My suspicion? One of them is 11.3", the size of display for the UK version of the 701. Rarely seen, but out there. epbrown On Tue, 21 Jan 97 22:09:45 HST, you wrote: =BBWhile surfing the IBM parts website recently I noticed that they sell =BB*3* replacement screens for the 701: a dual scan for the 701CS, and = two =BBdifferent TFT screens for the 701C. (There is a _big_ price = difference =BBbetween the two screens!) Can anyone here clarify what the difference =BBis? =BB =BB- David =BB =BB epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 10:57:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA226518676; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:57:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05403; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:55:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:42:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03583; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:42:57 -0500 Received: from gsbux1.uchicago.edu (gsbux1.uchicago.edu [128.135.130.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03576; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:42:54 -0500 Received: from gsbdwd (gsbdwd.uchicago.edu [128.135.130.161]) by gsbux1.uchicago.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA00421; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:27:29 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970122092716.00947350@gsbfac.uchicago.edu> X-Sender: dwd@gsbfac.uchicago.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:27:18 -0600 To: "Stefan Tilkov" , "thinkpad" From: "Douglas W. Diamond" Subject: Dock I connectors (SCSI?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know if the Dock I comes with a SCSI external connector, and if so what type (e.g. 50 pin, SCSI 1, high density SCSI 2, or an odd IBM connector? Is the hard disk installation kit required to put a SCSI internal disk in it? Lastly, how does it work with Win95? Thanks Doug Diamond From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 11:12:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA229509540; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:12:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07392; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:10:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:04:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06445; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:04:24 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06431; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:04:15 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA01221; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:03:12 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199701221603.LAA01221@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Dock I connectors (SCSI?) To: d-diamond@uchicago.edu (Douglas W. Diamond) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:03:11 -0500 (EST) Cc: Stefan.Tilkov@mlc.de, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970122092716.00947350@gsbfac.uchicago.edu> from "Douglas W. Diamond" at Jan 22, 97 09:27:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Does anyone know if the Dock I comes with a SCSI external connector, > and if so what type (e.g. 50 pin, SCSI 1, high density SCSI 2, or an > odd IBM connector? Yes, it comes with an external connector, which is an unusual one that requires a special cable from IBM. The internal SCSI system in the Dock I is based on the 8-bit TMC/950 controller, which is an extremely poor performer. > Is the hard disk installation kit required to put a SCSI internal disk in it? It would seem to be. The internal connectors are like nothing I've ever seen, and I couldn't get a device mounted with "stock" brackets that you might use in a desktop machine. Of course, the device you put in must be 1" or less. > Lastly, how does it work with Win95? Seems to work OK, except for the poor performance. Because of the design of the TMC/950, the CPU has to be extensively involved in supervising data transfer operations, which really hurts (even on my 760C). I ended up sticking an Adaptec 1542 into the expansion slot of my Dock I. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 11:15:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA230449711; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:15:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08003; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:13:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:06:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06831; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:06:00 -0500 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06822; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:05:56 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx10-22.teleport.com [206.163.124.94]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA29032; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:05:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:05:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199701221605.IAA29032@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Dr. F. Scott Porter NASA/GSFC" From: Bryan Daum Subject: Thinkpad parts Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Scott Porter wrote (re: Toshiba 1.3GB hard disk...) > >http://direct.boulder.ibm.com/us/parts/thinkpad/tpad560.htm > >The parts are amazingly cheap except for the LCD/HD/system... I changed the address and inserted 701 and there is the exploded view of the 701 and a listing of most parts! Wow! Reading this list works again. Ah, but note that -on the 701 parts list- the 16 meg ram chip is still over a thousand dollars! -And I was still smarting from having paid the $300 price last year while now around $200 or so! I wonder if IBM will update prices for these lists? I'll call and find out. Thanks Scott. Bryan Still lovin' little 701 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 11:56:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA240062172; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:56:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12792; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:52:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:46:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12028; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:46:24 -0500 Received: from ra.isisnet.com (ra.isisnet.com [199.45.83.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12008; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:46:19 -0500 Received: from ra.isisnet.com by ra.isisnet.com (8.8.3/SMI-SVR4) id MAA22699; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:40:45 -0400 (AST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970122164025.006b1a24@isisnet.com> X-Sender: robsteve@isisnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:40:25 -0400 To: "Douglas W. Diamond" , "Stefan Tilkov" , "thinkpad" From: "Robert G. Stevens" Subject: Re: Dock I connectors (SCSI?) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 09:27 AM 22/01/97 -0600, Douglas W. Diamond wrote: >Does anyone know if the Dock I comes with a SCSI external connector, and if so what type (e.g. 50 pin, SCSI 1, high density SCSI 2, or an odd IBM connector? > >Is the hard disk installation kit required to put a SCSI internal disk in it? > >Lastly, how does it work with Win95? > >Thanks >Doug Diamond > > > Doug: I have a dock I part # 3545-001 and it has SCSI built in. I don't know if mine came withe the SCSI stock since it is a used unit. It doe however look like it is standard fare since the controller is built into the main board. As for yhe external connector, it is an IBM part. I could not find one listed any where but IBM. For internal drives you need the kit which comes with the proprietary (on the motherboard end) internal cable and a mounting bracket. I think there is a limit to the type of drive you can put in the system. It has to be half height and 3.5". I tried plugging in a full height 3.5" drive while the cover was open, but the power supply did not seem to be able to provide the current to spin it up. I use Windows 95 and it works fine with it. To install it you must manually specify the SCSI adapter in the hadware install program. Select Future Domain TMC850 as the driver. The 755CDV I use it with does not have many IRQ's available and you have to play with hardware profile to ensure you have a spot for it. For example, I used IRQ 11 which is used for the video capture board. The other problem you may run into is that the SCSI adapter only becomes active when a device is attached to it. Therefore, Win 95 will show it not working or present unless you have a device on it. On a side note, I used the Dock I and a SCSI CDROM to install SCO Unix and the SCSI controller was recognized automatically. The free version SCO Open Server 5 worked fine on the ThinkPad. I used the Dock I to install a ISA slot network card that the SCO Unix supported. This was all installed on a second drive I got from PEP. The free SCO Unix was from www.sco.com. Regards Robert Stevens From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 14:43:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA273232194; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:43:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00784; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:41:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:31:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29320; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:31:52 -0500 Received: from dns.exodustech.com ([199.237.156.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29313; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:31:46 -0500 Received: from [199.237.155.100] by dns.exodustech.com (SMTPD32-3.03) id A94E14E01D0; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:23:58 -0800 Received: by mirvine.exodustech.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC0856.9A3A4150@mirvine.exodustech.com>; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:22:50 -0800 Message-Id: <01BC0856.9A3A4150@mirvine.exodustech.com> From: Mitch Irvine To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: how do I get into CMOS settings on 755CD Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:22:47 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu E doesn't work doesn't work at boot-up doesn't work I've tried them all(I think). Does anybody have the solution? Thanks in advance. Mitch Irvine From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 14:51:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA276112680; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:51:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00788; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:41:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:23:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28449; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:23:01 -0500 Received: from mahoneynt.mahoney-chevy.com (mahoneynt.mahoney-chevy.com [204.95.252.164]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28419; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:22:21 -0500 Received: by mahoneynt.mahoney-chevy.com with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BC086F.A6A34040@mahoneynt.mahoney-chevy.com>; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:22:08 -0500 Message-Id: From: To: Cc: Subject: RE: New ThinkPad 760ED - Display Flickers Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:22:08 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Steve, I noticed the same thing on my 760E. The screen seems to flicker on start up. It seems like ounce the machine warms up or runs for a while it stops and is fine. Michael Mahoney Indianapolis, IN. mahoneym@iquest.net http://www.iquest.net/cars -----Original Message----- From: stevez1 [SMTP:stevez1@ibm.net] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 1997 11:15 AM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: New ThinkPad 760ED - Display Flickers I recently purchased an TP760ED (2.1 gb disk drive w/CD-ROM). This is my second TP, the first being a 750C. I have been very happy with TP and IBM service, as evident by my new purchase. Even though I am happy with the new TP to date, there are three annoying problems, the major being an intermittent screen flickering problem. I have been trying to determine under what conditions this slight flickering takes place, and it is just enough at times to be annoying. It appears to more frequently incur when the TP is connected to the AC and the battery is recharging. It happens less frequently when the power is supplied by battery only, and I believe, less frequently when the battery is completely charged and the TP is connected to AC. Again, is intermittent. The other problem is that I find that the keyboard requires more "effort" - it is a little harder than the 750C. Sometimes, I do not press hard enough to register the key stroke. Finally, the machine does run hot. IBM sent me a fax addressing the issues, including updating the BIOS, MPEG drivers, and PMCIA code (all of which I have not yet attempted). For PC cards that generate a lot of heat, the recommend using the upper PC card slot. The fax document number is 12404, and I believe that the FaxBack number is 800-426-3395. Has anyone else noticed the first two problems? Any additional information would be appreciated. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 15:08:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA280093716; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:08:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03866; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:07:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:03:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03292; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:03:16 -0500 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03216; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:03:02 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id OAA28176 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:59:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA2142; Wed, 22 Jan 97 14:59:27 -0800 Message-Id: <9701222259.AA2142@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 934CDA66DBF74F3085256427006C1D0A; Wed, 22 Jan 97 14:59:26 EDT To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 22 Jan 97 14:42:22 EDT Subject: Re: how do I get into CMOS settings on 755CD X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "...I've tried them all(I think). Does anybody have the solution?..." ~~~~~ hold down the key from the time you hit the power switch until it says "entering setup" or asks you for the password, if you use a power-on password. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ ------------------------------- Although I can accept talking scarecrows, lions and great wizards of emerald cities, I find it hard to believe there is no paperwork involved when your house lands on a witch. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 17:51:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA015603494; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:51:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23296; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:50:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:45:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22626; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:45:13 -0500 Received: from gsbux1.uchicago.edu (gsbux1.uchicago.edu [128.135.130.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22608; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:45:08 -0500 Received: from gsbdwd (gsbdwd.uchicago.edu [128.135.130.161]) by gsbux1.uchicago.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA08319 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:44:58 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970122164445.0094ed40@gsbfac.uchicago.edu> X-Sender: dwd@gsbfac.uchicago.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:44:45 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Douglas W. Diamond" Subject: Dock I SCSI connectors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am looking for a external SCSI connector cable for a Dock I (the original dock I). Any leads on a good supplier, or does anyone have an extra for sale? Thanks Doug Diamond From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 18:19:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA021755196; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:19:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26420; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:18:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:14:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26045; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:14:21 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26031; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:14:16 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-d-42.usc.edu [128.125.222.114]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id PAA14311; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:13:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970122135254.006d2d18@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:14:16 -0800 To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Mysterious TP701 speedup Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:06 PM 1/21/97 HST, David Ross wrote: >Well, the final verdict on my mysterious 701C speedup seems to be that >my system was permanently in 'AUTO' position (instead of '75/25'), >despite my apparent BIOS setting to the contrary (as reported in the >Config screen). This conclusion follows from the Wintune 2.0 reports >poeple sent me: the AUTO results were similar to my pre-EZserve results, >the 75/25 similar to mine after EZ-serve. (Special thanks to rj@cais >for suggesting something like this.) > >It is all moot anyway at this point, since my 701 is destined for the >scrap heap. > >- David I'm not sure I "get" what you're saying, David. Is it that the "Auto" setting is inherently slow and if you want maximum speed, use the specifically "fast" settings? ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 19:52:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA039400730; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:52:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03067; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:46:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:40:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02584; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:40:36 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02561; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:40:26 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA10692; Wed, 22 Jan 97 14:40:16 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA29520; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:40:53 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199701230040.OAA29520@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Mysterious TP701 speedup To: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 97 14:40:51 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970122135254.006d2d18@scf.usc.edu>; from "Randy Whittle" at Jan 22, 97 3:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Is it that the "Auto" setting is inherently slow and if you want maximum > speed, use the specifically "fast" settings? Seems to be the case; at least, the people who tried Wintune2.0 on the auto setting all got more-or-less identically slow results, and the others got the faster ones. Either there's lots of overhead in the Auto setting (eg: Should I speed up now? How about now? Or now?) or it somehow decides that Wintune is a program which requires only moderate CPU resources. If I ever own a working 701C again I will certainly fix it in the faster setting. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 22 22:40:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA069410800; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:40:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16204; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:33:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:28:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15734; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:28:51 -0500 Received: from ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca (ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.96.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15727; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:28:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199701230328.WAA15727@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from general.uoguelph.ca ([131.104.11.168]) by ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA031920311; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:31:51 -0500 From: "Rob Hanson" To: "Thinkpad" Subject: Being removed from the mailing list Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:29:31 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu How would one go about removing himself from this mailing list? I never have time to read these messages so I thought it would be wise to be taken off the list. Thanks in advance. /*=========================== -rob Computer Science University of Guelph, Guelph, ON http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rhanson Email: rhanson@uoguelph.ca (519)837-8247 ============================*/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 23 09:47:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA181530836; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:47:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11906; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:45:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:37:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10970; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:37:26 -0500 Received: from mail.toronto.istar.net (Mail.Toronto.iSTAR.net [204.191.136.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10964; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:37:23 -0500 Received: from vera.inforamp.net (InfoRamp.Net [198.53.144.31]) by mail.toronto.istar.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA12017 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ts61-16.tor.iSTAR.ca (ts20-05.tor.iSTAR.ca [204.191.138.205]) by vera.inforamp.net (8.7.3/8.7) with SMTP id JAA25489 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:37:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701231437.JAA25489@vera.inforamp.net> X-Sender: valliant@inforamp.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:36:03 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: valliant@micomtech.com (Hugh Valliant) Subject: Re: Thinkpad parts Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Try the following for all machines http://direct.boulder.ibm.com/us/parts/thinkpad/ >Scott Porter wrote (re: Toshiba 1.3GB hard disk...) >> >>http://direct.boulder.ibm.com/us/parts/thinkpad/tpad560.htm >> >>The parts are amazingly cheap except for the LCD/HD/system... > >I changed the address and inserted 701 and there is the exploded view of the >701 and a listing of most parts! Wow! Reading this list works again. > >Ah, but note that -on the 701 parts list- the 16 meg ram chip is still over >a thousand dollars! -And I was still smarting from having paid the $300 >price last year while now around $200 or so! > >I wonder if IBM will update prices for these lists? I'll call and find out. > >Thanks Scott. > >Bryan >Still lovin' little 701 > > > ============================ MI-COM Technology Computer Solutions for Small Business Helping you access and travel the Information Highway Hugh A. Valliant Bus. (416) 726-5355 Fax. (416) 699-3847 Internet valliant@micomtech.com http://www.micomtech.com/~valliant/ ============================= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 23 17:58:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA288160338; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:58:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02583; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:57:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:46:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01259; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:46:44 -0500 Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [15.253.88.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01250; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:46:35 -0500 From: Received: from boi118.boi.hp.com (boi118.boi.hp.com [15.56.8.42]) by palrel3.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA08104 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from by boi118.boi.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.4 Openmail) id AA280939628; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:47:08 -0800 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 14:46:32 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199701220809.WAA29264@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: WTB: Dock II with CD-ROM Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Item Subject: cc:Mail Text Anyone out there selling a DOCK II with the internal black IBM 4X CDROM and display shelf? If so I might be interested in buying one if the price is right Richard Hamel ------------------ Hewlett Packard Network Server Division Santa Clara, CA USA 408-553-3247 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 23 18:15:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA290961312; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:15:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04851; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:13:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:08:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04127; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:08:27 -0500 Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04111; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:08:20 -0500 Received: from jim.dhs.com ([198.69.202.22]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.8.4/8.8.4/ler-0123-1531) with SMTP id RAA20549; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:07:51 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <32E7EFA6.4F47@cyberramp.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:09:26 -0600 From: Jim X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: jmcghee@cyberramp.net Subject: 1 inch cd rom drive for Dock I Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, Does anyone make a 1 inch tall cdrom drive that will fit in a Dock I? IBM wants $479 for theirs. Thanks, Jim McGhee From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 24 10:58:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA162291491; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:58:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28032; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:56:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:48:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27044; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:48:15 -0500 Received: from namaste.cc.columbia.edu (cu8264@namaste.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.141]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27036; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:48:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (pm119@localhost) by namaste.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA14093 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:48:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:48:08 -0500 (EST) From: Paulo Magalhaes Sender: pm119@columbia.edu To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Hard disk replacement Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greetings! I have seen this subject discussed in the list before, but at the time budget constraints kept me from looking too closely... :) I would like to replace the 340 Mb hard disk in my old and faithful TP750C with something "a little bigger": about 1 Gb. At the same time I would like to keep the old HD as an external one, if the price for this is not prohibitive. Any suggestions regarding sources (company, brand of HD, part #, approx. price) and bits and pieces of information which you may find useful (BIOS update requirements, suspend/hibernation problems, etc, etc) will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in anticipation for your attention. Best regards, Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 24 11:33:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA170283634; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:33:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01760; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:32:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:27:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01146; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:27:10 -0500 Received: from wdl1.wdl.lmco.com ([137.249.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01138; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:27:06 -0500 Received: from conic.lmco.com by wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (SMI-8.6/WDL-5.0) id IAA28707; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 08:26:55 -0800 Message-Id: <32E8E3A6.458A@conic.lmco.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 08:30:30 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Organization: Lockheed Martin Conic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: tomfrank@pacbell.net Subject: Re: Caddy for TP760? References: <32E4039D.35CD@conic.lmco.com> <32E4086C.500@cyberramp.net> <32E40F98.5D77@conic.lmco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tom Franklin wrote: > > You're not going to believe this, but I just walked in the door from bying > > a caddie for my 760L. > > I got it from PS Solutions, Inc (972)783-6996. > > I spoke with Jerome at PS Solutions and they have a model for the > thicker (i.e., CD ROM capable) TP760 and the thinner one. The caddy for > the thinner TP wont be ready till Friday. I'll keep you updated. I called PS Solutions and placed my order. They promised it would ship today. They said earlier it would cost $50, but they want $60 now. I tell the list how well it works when I get it. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 24 12:21:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA178936470; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:21:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08142; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:19:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:13:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07270; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:13:32 -0500 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07247; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:13:24 -0500 Received: from brigadier.execpc.com (brigadier.execpc.com [169.207.9.185]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA26090 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:18:46 -0600 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Best way to clean a 760ED screen Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:17:23 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <32e8ee5b.1785776@mailgate.execpc.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/16.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a mundane question, but what's the best way to clean a Thinkpad 760 screen of fingerprints, etc.? I don't want to damage it. One of those alcohol pads? Thanks for your help. Tom Kustner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 24 12:37:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA183167430; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:37:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10388; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:35:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:30:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09773; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:30:03 -0500 Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.2.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09742; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:29:57 -0500 Received: from [199.174.166.96] (ad24-096.compuserve.com [199.174.166.96]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA26496 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 09:29:50 -0800 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 09:29:50 -0800 Message-Id: <199701241729.JAA26496@m1.sprynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "P.van Schijndel" Subject: 365 Series & Preloaded Operating Systems... To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.10.06.22 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It's almost funny... Here in Canada, if I wish to order a 365XD preloaded with OS/2, I am told that it would an extra charge, as they ship with Windows 95 *only*. Is this a foretaste of things to come? What a commitment by IBM to their operating system! Comments From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 24 12:53:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA186728436; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:53:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12143; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:52:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:49:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11650; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:49:18 -0500 Received: from aruba.lerc.nasa.gov (aruba.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.35.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11621; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:49:07 -0500 Received: from gfedor.lerc.nasa.gov by aruba.lerc.nasa.gov with SMTP (NASA LeRC 8.7.4.1/2.01-main) id MAA10645; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:49:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970124124901.006c9754@sven> X-Sender: gfedor@sven X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:49:03 -0500 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Gregory Fedor Subject: Looking for AC Adapter for TP750C Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I would like to pick up a second AC adapter for my TP750C for use with the port replicator. Does anyone know of a good source (perhaps online?) for these? TIA Gregory -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory A. Fedor ADF Inc./NASA Lewis Research Center/Micro-g Experiments Computer Engineer 216-977-1247 work: gfedor@lerc.nasa.gov http://sven.lerc.nasa.gov/~gfedor personal: gfedor@en.com http://www.en.com/users/gfedor -w------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 24 14:19:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA205113563; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:19:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20635; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:17:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:11:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19979; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:11:02 -0500 Received: from ts1.netpathway.com (root@ts1.netpathway.com [208.137.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19966; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:10:57 -0500 Received: from ericgile (port11.netpathway.com [208.137.139.26]) by ts1.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA13870; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:10:12 -0600 Message-Id: <32E908B8.659F@netpathway.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:08:40 -0600 From: Eric Giles X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Kustner Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Best way to clean a 760ED screen References: <32e8ee5b.1785776@mailgate.execpc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tom Kustner wrote: > > This is a mundane question, but what's the best way to clean a > Thinkpad 760 screen of fingerprints, etc.? I don't want to damage it. > One of those alcohol pads? Thanks for your help. > > Tom Kustner > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation > System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. > Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA > Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. The manual for my 701C recommends using isopropyl rubbing alcohol with a soft cotton cloth. I have used this method, and it works very well. I haven't cleaned the screen on my 760ED yet, but I would imagine that the same method would give the same results. Eric Giles From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 24 14:24:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA205873834; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:23:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21302; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:22:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:18:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20766; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:18:22 -0500 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk (mail-a.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20739; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:18:12 -0500 Received: from [128.40.81.205] (actually host mac1.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:17:59 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-smtp-server.ucl.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:16:03 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: a.annala@ucl.ac.uk (Alexander J. Annala) Subject: Hard disk replacement Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >From: Paulo Magalhaes >I would like to replace the 340 Mb hard disk in my old and faithful >TP750C with something "a little bigger": about 1 Gb. At the same time >I would like to keep the old HD as an external one, if the price for >this is not prohibitive. Any suggestions regarding sources (company, >brand of HD, part #, approx. price) and bits and pieces of information >which you may find useful (BIOS update requirements, suspend/hibernation >problems, etc, etc) will be greatly appreciated. I replaced my 340 MB HD with 1.2 GB IBM DPRA-21250 and a 1.3 GB Toshiba MK-1301 drives in two caddies (one from my original 340 MB HD and one from a colleagues 170 MB HD. The currently released BIOS remaps both drives from their original "geometry" into something with less than 1024 cylinders so any partition on the disk is bootable. The APM suspend/hibernation etc all work just the same as in the original system. The only problem I have is that the startup power drain from these new drives pulls down the battery output so far the system begins to power on and goes immediately into critical low battery suspend state. Once I start the system with the adaptor plugged into the wall it will run for hours on the same battery. It would be nice to have another solution for system startup. Cheers, AJ Annala, Pharmacology, University College London From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 24 15:53:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA224389193; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:53:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03798; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:51:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:44:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02676; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:44:10 -0500 Received: from emout01.mail.aol.com (emout01.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.92]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02660; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:43:59 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout01.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id PAA23798; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:43:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:43:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970124154305_947504546@emout01.mail.aol.com> To: pm119@columbia.edu Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard disk replacement Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Paulo, I saw your inquiry on the List. We can help you upgrade your system through 2.1gb Hard Drives. Our upgrade kits come with everything you need, including BIOS and Step-By-Step Intasll Instructions. We also have the External HDD Shells for your old HDD. I will send you our upgrade catalog. Please contact me if you have any other questions. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: Hard disk replacement Date: 97-01-24 10:58:48 EST From: pm119@columbia.edu (Paulo Magalhaes) Sender: pm119@columbia.edu To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Greetings! I have seen this subject discussed in the list before, but at the time budget constraints kept me from looking too closely... :) I would like to replace the 340 Mb hard disk in my old and faithful TP750C with something "a little bigger": about 1 Gb. At the same time I would like to keep the old HD as an external one, if the price for this is not prohibitive. Any suggestions regarding sources (company, brand of HD, part #, approx. price) and bits and pieces of information which you may find useful (BIOS update requirements, suspend/hibernation problems, etc, etc) will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in anticipation for your attention. Best regards, Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 24 18:36:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA261418961; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 18:36:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19290; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 18:34:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 24 Jan 1997 18:27:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18844; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 18:27:53 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18836; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 18:27:46 -0500 Received: from 701c (liv-48.rust.net [206.42.195.148]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.4/8.8.0) with SMTP id SAA29575 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 18:26:34 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970124182606.006a9e0c@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 8 (32) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 18:26:06 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re:PCMCIA APM on Thinkpad 701c Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu From IBM's Web Site: Microsoft Windows 95 on IBM ThinkPad Systems ============================================ Version 2.12 February 27th, 1996 8.2. Known limitations with Windows 95 (on a 701) -------------------------------------- o Auto suspend not working when docked If you dock the ThinkPad 701, the auto suspend timer doesn't work due to a Adapter SCSI driver problem in Windows 95. o PCMCIA power management limitations Windows 95 doesn't turn off PC cards before suspend. This would cause shorter suspend time due to power drain. To turn off PC cards during suspend, do one of the following. - With ThinkPad 701C System Disk version 3M: Press Fn+F11 followed immediately by Fn+Enter to set a flag forcing BIOS to suspend the PCMCIA even if there is a powered card in the slot (with PCMCIA power setting = Auto in Configuration Utility). This should work for modem cards. - Use IBM PC Card Director PCMCIA software ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I tried this routine then put the laptop into suspend using Fn+F4. Battery consumption still high. I have not tried it with the Start menu, Suspend. I'm running 3O bios not 3M. I wonder if they took it out in the later revisions? B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 24 19:28:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA270922115; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:28:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22884; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:27:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:23:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22572; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:23:11 -0500 Received: from ame2.math.arizona.edu (ame2.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.60]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22566; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:23:08 -0500 Received: (from rsm@localhost) by ame2.math.arizona.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA04195; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:22:50 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:22:50 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701250022.RAA04195@ame2.math.arizona.edu> From: "Robert S. Maier" To: mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu Cc: yang@pathcom.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: (message from derelict on Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:47:58 -0800 (PST)) Subject: MWAVE under Linux Phase-Of-Moon: Waning Gibbous (99% of Full) Organization: Mathematics Department, University of Arizona Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >I also have a TP755CD. Basicly, the mwave modem will never work. If you >want to have modem use in Linux, you have to buy a pcmcia modem. Almost >all of them will work with linux. In fact, that's what I'm using right >now.... I have a TP755CD too, and have had unprintable problems with the MWAVE. In fact I've had trouble with it even under DOS and Windows 3.1, not just Linux. To a limited extent, I can use the MWAVE's SoundBlaster emulation under Linux, and can play CD's under Linux too. The trick is to boot up Linux with LOADLIN rather than LILO, after loading the MWAVE drivers under DOS. Using the DOS command `MWGAMES ON CD' before booting up Linux does the trick. Unfortunately MWGAMES.BAT doesn't support the options I'd like it to. `MWGAMES ON CD' makes the MWAVE emulate a SoundBlaster (not an SBPro). You can type `MWGAMES ON PRO' to make it emulate a SBPro, but that kills any chance of playing CD's. The SBPro emulation doesn't support CD input, apparently. It's even worse than that. I can't play MIDI files under Linux. Linux thinks the MWAVE emulation includes an FM synth (at 0x388, where it should be), but the synth really isn't there. Or at least it isn't functioning. Is it possible that I should be typing `MWGAMES ON SAMPLES', to load the synth with instrument sounds from ROM? That's what the informational messages in MWGAMES.BAT seem to imply. But when I do that under DOS, I get an error message I can't interpret. If anyone has had any more success using the MWAVE SB emulation under Linux than I have, by all means let me know. --Robert -- Robert S. Maier | Internet: rsm@math.arizona.edu Dept. of Math. | Univ. of Arizona | Tucson, AZ 85721 | FAX: +1 520 621 8322 U.S.A. | Voice: +1 520 621 6893 (dept.), +1 520 621 2617 (office) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 25 00:59:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA026271997; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 00:59:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17455; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 00:58:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 25 Jan 1997 00:52:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17117; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 00:51:56 -0500 Received: from mailsrv1.pcy.mci.net (mailsrv1.pcy.mci.net [204.71.1.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17111; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 00:51:53 -0500 Received: from usr9-dialup5.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net (usr9-dialup5.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.0-7 #10045) id <01IEM0K57WWG9EFRLJ@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 00:50:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from usr9-dialup5.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net (usr9-dialup5.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.0-7 #10045) id <01IEM05C7H889EG25Y@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 00:38:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 00:33:23 -0500 From: Neil Ripston Subject: CD-I Movies on Thinkpad 760ED To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: Neil.Ripston@internetmci.com Message-Id: <32E99B23.3F45@internetmci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anybody had any luck playing CD-I movies on the Tpad 760ED? Just got naked un 2 1/2 on CD-I and my ED doesn't recognize the disk is in the drive. The unit plays Mpeg movies fine. Anybody have any experience out there? Thanks, Neil Ripston From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 25 13:14:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA126426069; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:14:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13137; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:13:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:04:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12340; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:04:19 -0500 Received: from chelsea.ios.com (root@chelsea.ios.com [198.4.75.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12333; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:04:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (ingerman@localhost) by chelsea.ios.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA09480 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:04:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:04:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark M. Ingerman" X-Sender: ingerman@chelsea.ios.com To: Thinkpad Forum Subject: Boot Manager - win95 and os/2 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I know this is more like an operating system question and not a thinpad question, but people on this list seem very knowledgable in these areas - so here it goes. I have a 2.1 Gb drive on my thinkpad. I would like to have both OS/2 and Win95 on the same drive with boot manager. Here is my problem. I wnat three partitions. The first the win95 boot partition. The second, the OS/2 boot partition. And the third a shared partiion ( would be D for both boots ). I have several software packages which run on both platforms and I want the share data. The problem is this: The third drive will be the last 350 Mb ( or so ) of the physical disk. I can't format using FAT because it won't work in any sectors past the first 1Gb on a physical disk. If I format using HPFS ( OS/2's format ), Win95 can't read it. If I format using Win95's Fat32, I don't think that the OS/2 partition can read it. Any suggestions? Mark M. Ingerman Creative Software Solutions, Inc. ingerman@cs2.com (508) 394-4266 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 25 13:27:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA128426857; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:27:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14426; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:27:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:21:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13906; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:21:22 -0500 Received: from mustique.u.arizona.edu (mustique.U.Arizona.EDU [128.196.137.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13897; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:21:18 -0500 Received: from u.Arizona.EDU (demos.PS.Arizona.EDU [128.196.44.105]) by mustique.u.arizona.edu (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA49562 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 11:20:41 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 11:21:05 -0700 (MST) From: William J Dixon To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: win95 install & hot swap on 760? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: dixonw@u.arizona.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am interested in installing win95 on my 760CD. Having already installed os/2 I know about the difficulties involved in booting from an install disk and then reading from CDRom (which must be swapped with the disk drive). The question is this: does win95 pose any installation problems for an undocked tp that must swap CDRom and floppy drives? Thanks. Bill Dixon - - - - William J. Dixon Dept. of Political Science dixonw@u.Arizona.EDU University of Arizona phone: +520 621 7600 Tucson, Arizona 85721 fax: +520 621 5051 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 25 13:32:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA129087147; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:32:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15006; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:32:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:25:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14225; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:25:34 -0500 Received: from chelsea.ios.com (root@chelsea.ios.com [198.4.75.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14208; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:25:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (ingerman@localhost) by chelsea.ios.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA10928 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:25:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:25:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark M. Ingerman" X-Sender: ingerman@chelsea.ios.com To: Thinkpad Forum Subject: Boot Manager - win95 and os/2 (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Mark M. Ingerman Creative Software Solutions, Inc. ingerman@cs2.com (508) 394-4266 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:04:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark M. Ingerman" To: Thinkpad Forum Subject: Boot Manager - win95 and os/2 I know this is more like an operating system question and not a thinpad question, but people on this list seem very knowledgable in these areas - so here it goes. I have a 2.1 Gb drive on my thinkpad. I would like to have both OS/2 and Win95 on the same drive with boot manager. Here is my problem. I wnat three partitions. The first the win95 boot partition. The second, the OS/2 boot partition. And the third a shared partiion ( would be D for both boots ). I have several software packages which run on both platforms and I want the share data. The problem is this: The third drive will be the last 350 Mb ( or so ) of the physical disk. I can't format using FAT because it won't work in any sectors past the first 1Gb on a physical disk. If I format using HPFS ( OS/2's format ), Win95 can't read it. If I format using Win95's Fat32, I don't think that the OS/2 partition can read it. Any suggestions? Mark M. Ingerman Creative Software Solutions, Inc. ingerman@cs2.com (508) 394-4266 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 25 18:15:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA177494114; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:15:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06413; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:14:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:09:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05871; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:09:12 -0500 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05862; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:09:02 -0500 Received: from cais.cais.com (rj@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/cais-andrew-jdf) with SMTP id RAA13904 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 17:34:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 17:34:35 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701CS/Panasonic KXL-783A/WinNT 4.0 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm trying to load Windows NT 4.0 on a TP701CS using a KXL-783A CD-ROM drive. Unfortunately the CD-ROM only comes with drivers for NT 3.51 and I can't get the NT loader to recognize the CD-ROM using the 3.51 driver, which I suppose makes sense. Anyway there's a DOS work around for this but it's very time consuming and there doesn't seem to be a way to use the DOS workaround to load stuff after the system is installed (other than a complete re-install). Has anyone loaded NT 4.0 directly from CD-ROM using the KXL-783A and if you did, how? Alternatively, is there a way to incrementally install or re-install parts using the DOS workaround? Thanks!! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 25 21:43:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA212386580; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:43:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15601; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:38:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:31:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14541; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:31:55 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14519; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:31:50 -0500 Received: from user-37kb945.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb945.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.133]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA21740 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:31:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199701260131.UAA21740@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 01:18:47 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: WEB site Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If you need part no's & proces for ThinkPad replacement parts to to the following URL's http://direct.boulder.ibm.com/us/parts/indexes/tpadindx.htm http://direct.boulder.ibm.com/us/parts/indexes/moblindx.htm This is from the friendly people at the Boulder parts dept. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 25 21:44:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA212716691; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:44:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15605; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:38:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:32:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14563; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:32:00 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14540; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:31:54 -0500 Received: from user-37kb945.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb945.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.133]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA22272; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:31:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199701260131.UAA22272@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Mitch Irvine" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 00:58:53 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: how do I get into CMOS settings on 755CD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hold down the F1 key & then power up the system. Don't let go until you are in the easysetup. On Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:22:47 -0800, Mitch Irvine wrote: >E doesn't work > doesn't work > at boot-up doesn't work > >I've tried them all(I think). Does anybody have the solution? > >Thanks in advance. > >Mitch Irvine > > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 25 21:46:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA213046801; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:46:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15608; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:38:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:32:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14564; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:32:01 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14546; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:31:57 -0500 Received: from user-37kb945.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb945.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.133]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA14012; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:31:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199701260131.UAA14012@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "laniear@ibm.net" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 03 Jan 97 00:55:04 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Upgrade Question Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The replacement of any user replaceable componet w/n void the basic warranty. If you install non IBM or Thinkpad proven memory, hard drive, battery only that part will not be covered by the warranty. The rest of the system will still be covered. On Tue, 31 Dec 96 18:35:20 -0800, laniear@ibm.net wrote: >Michael, > >It seems to me that one piece of information you should include in ANY post regarding >upgrades is whether your proposed (offered) upgrade does or does not (or whether >you've taken any action to determine whether) it invalidate the ThinkPad warranty. >One of the reasons we've bought ThinkPads is the warranty and I think that this is a >consideration (major or not) to many other buyers. So, what information do you have >relating to warranty compliance? > >BTW, Dave, you can buy 32M memory modules for the 701 (from IBM at least) and they >will not invalidate your warranty. > >Lee > > >//--- forwarded letter ------------------------------------------------------- >> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 96 20:13:17 -0500 >> From: PEPSales@aol.com >> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >> Subject: Upgrade Question > >> >> Dave, >> >> Thank you for your inquiry. The largest Hard Drive available for the TP701 at >> this time is the 2.1gb. I am sending you all our upgrade information for your >> system. we have been upgrading the CPU on this system for quite awhile now >> with excellent results. If you have a DX2/50 processor, the AMD 5X86/100mhz >> CPU will more than double the response of your system. Our benchmarks show >> your response to be the response equivalent of the Pentium 75. Please contact >> me if you have any other questions or concerns. >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Michael >> email: pepsale2@portables.com >> Portable Enhancements >> The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM >> Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! >> WEB: http://www.portables.com >> >> =======Original Message========= >> >> X-Sender: dspeed@mail.well.com >> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:33:17 -0500 >> To: pepsale2@portables.com >> From: Dave Speed >> Subject: Upgrade Question >> >> >> Gentlemen; >> >> I saw a posting in the IBM Thinkpad mailing list. >> >> I have a 701C and am thinking about upgrading the HD (either sooner or >> later) and >> the advisability of upgrading the processor. >> >> What is the net speed effect of upgrading the processor ? >> >> Can you upgrade the memory on the systemboard ? It is my >> understanding that this unit does not take 32 mb modules. >> >> Thanks >> >> Dave Speed >> >> >> > > > >||----------------------------------------------------------|| >|| Lee Laniear || >|| laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || >|| || >||----------------------------------------------------------|| > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 25 21:48:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA213406931; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:48:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15603; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:38:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:31:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14512; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:31:49 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14501; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:31:45 -0500 Received: from user-37kb945.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb945.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.133]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA26014; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:31:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199701260131.UAA26014@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Dean Cashen" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 03 Jan 97 00:43:14 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Win95 & Virtual Screens on TP760 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My understanding is that MS didn't provide the support in the Win95 video subsystem to allow the Virtual Screen fuctions to work. As for the fuctions being grayed out in TP features, you are correct. The fuctions can be disabled in device mgr, they are not BIOS fuctions & can be handled by Win95. On Thu, 02 Jan 1997 11:25:53 -0700, Dean Cashen wrote: >Hello: > >A while back I asked you folks here how to get the Virtual Screen >function working under Win95, or, if anyone out there actually had >Virtual Screens working on their TP760 under Win95. No one seemed >to know the answer, and no one came forth to say "Yeah, mine works," >so I bugged IBM some more about it. (To date, I've called their >support 4 times, each time getting a different response. The last >response, and the one I liked least, was that Win95 didn't "allow" >virtual screens to work). Since I wasn't getting far using their >phone support, I decided to try their support forum on Compuserve, >and I posted a question to them there. They responded within a >day. > >They told me that, indeed, the Virtual Screen function does NOT work >under Win95. They're supported for OS/2 and Win 3.1, but (and this >is my interpretation), IBM hasn't updated their screen drivers to >include this functionality under Win95. Shame. So, for those out >there who've been doing what I've been doing -- trying, configuring, >reconfiguring, tweaking, sweating, and downloading any and all new >drivers they can find in an effort to get Virtual Screens working >under Win95. . . don't bother. "It don't work." IBM didn't say whether >this was, indeed, "impossible" under Win95 (I don't believe it is), >and they didn't say whether they were planning to make this work >in future releases, so there's some hope that Virtual Screens will >be functional in the future. At least, I hope so! > >And, as an aside, I also asked why some features of the ThinkPad >Features program, such as enabling/disabling the modem, or enabling/ >disabling the MIDI port no longer work in the latest release of >the ThinkPad utilities. These functions are greyed out now. I was >told that these features have been "migrated" to the device manager >in Win95, and to enable/disable them you need to use devmgr now to >do so (Check or un-Check the box for these devices under "Device >Usage"). I haven't verified this works, however, but it explains >why ThinkPad Features no longer lets you configure them. > >And, and editorial comment: I must say, I wish IBM would provide >a little better documentation -- internal and external -- regarding >issues such as these. I've spent countless hours trying to figure >these things out, and my first three calls to IBM's tech support >kept me me believing that they should work. (And, frankly, I still >think they "should" work). IBM's margin on the TP760CD was fat >enough, IMHO, for them to provide more cohesive support. > >Regards, > >Dean Cashen >cashen@primenet.com > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Jan 25 22:03:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA215887828; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 22:03:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22020; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 22:02:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:58:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21569; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:58:38 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA21563; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:58:35 -0500 Received: from user-37kb94f.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb94f.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.143]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA69618; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:58:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199701260258.VAA69618@mule0.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "tp750@cs.utk.edu" , "William J Dixon" Date: Sat, 25 Jan 97 21:45:35 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: win95 install & hot swap on 760? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The cd-rom is hot swappable on the 760cd. I think that the best way to install Win95 would be to create a dos partition with the cd-rom drivers installed. Boot to that partition & run setup off the CD. This way you don't have to worry about swapping the drives. On Sat, 25 Jan 1997 11:21:05 -0700 (MST), William J Dixon wrote: > > I am interested in installing win95 on my 760CD. Having already >installed os/2 I know about the difficulties involved in booting from an >install disk and then reading from CDRom (which must be swapped with the >disk drive). The question is this: does win95 pose any installation >problems for an undocked tp that must swap CDRom and floppy drives? >Thanks. > >Bill Dixon >- - - - > William J. Dixon > Dept. of Political Science dixonw@u.Arizona.EDU > University of Arizona phone: +520 621 7600 > Tucson, Arizona 85721 fax: +520 621 5051 > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. 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X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <189_125_4_854238403> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry for the wasted bandwidth but I haven't gotten mail from this list in three days (incredible) and wanted to see if it was me or the list. ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 26 04:00:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA273839242; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 04:00:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15975; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 04:00:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 26 Jan 1997 03:53:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15217; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 03:53:09 -0500 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15210; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 03:53:04 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu (yu1.yu.edu [129.98.200.100]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA18030; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 03:53:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA40507; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 03:53:02 -0500 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 03:53:02 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof To: "Mark M. Ingerman" Cc: Thinkpad Forum Subject: Re: Boot Manager - win95 and os/2 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, Mark M. Ingerman wrote: > The third drive will be the last 350 Mb ( or so ) of the physical disk. I > can't format using FAT because it won't work in any sectors past the first > 1Gb on a physical disk. If I format using HPFS ( OS/2's format ), Win95 > can't read it. If I format using Win95's Fat32, I don't think that the > OS/2 partition can read it. Unless you're running Win95 OSR2 (and if this is a thinkpad it definitely did NOT come with Win95 OSR2) then you are not using FAT32. There are a number of public domain drivers to let you read and write to HPFS partitions under dos, these drivers may work for win95 as well. Also I've never heard of FAT not being able to format past 1GB. Have you actually tried to format it? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 26 07:27:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA003881665; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 07:27:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04130; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 07:27:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 26 Jan 1997 07:21:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03761; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 07:21:03 -0500 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03755; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 07:20:56 -0500 Received: from luzern_ppp18.tic.ch (luzern_ppp18.tic.ch [193.193.148.20]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA20366; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:23:37 +0100 (MET) Received: by luzern_ppp18.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BC0B8C.08714820@luzern_ppp18.tic.ch>; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:22:52 +-100 Message-Id: <01BC0B8C.08714820@luzern_ppp18.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'Mark M. Ingerman'" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Boot Manager - win95 and os/2 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:37:38 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, When I got my Thinkpad it was formatted with a *single* partition but could run Win 3.11 or OS/2 - I know that OS/2 permits itself to be installed on a DOS partition, which is what was being exploited here. I presume the latest release of OS/2 also permits this. You mention that you can't format FAT beyond 1GByte, so why not format the *first* partition (i.e. nowhere near 1G) as your shared data partition, using the OS/2 boot manager or something like LILO to boot from the appropriate partition subsequently. My ignorance of OS/2 may mean I'm just spouting garbage, but maybe this'll give you some ideas anyway. cheers, Andrew. ---------- From: Mark M. Ingerman[SMTP:ingerman@chelsea.ios.com] Sent: Samstag, 25. Januar 1997 14:04 To: Thinkpad Forum Subject: Boot Manager - win95 and os/2 I know this is more like an operating system question and not a thinpad question, but people on this list seem very knowledgable in these areas - so here it goes. I have a 2.1 Gb drive on my thinkpad. I would like to have both OS/2 and Win95 on the same drive with boot manager. Here is my problem. I wnat three partitions. The first the win95 boot partition. The second, the OS/2 boot partition. And the third a shared partiion ( would be D for both boots ). I have several software packages which run on both platforms and I want the share data. The problem is this: The third drive will be the last 350 Mb ( or so ) of the physical disk. I can't format using FAT because it won't work in any sectors past the first 1Gb on a physical disk. If I format using HPFS ( OS/2's format ), Win95 can't read it. If I format using Win95's Fat32, I don't think that the OS/2 partition can read it. Any suggestions? Mark M. Ingerman Creative Software Solutions, Inc. ingerman@cs2.com (508) 394-4266 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 26 09:47:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA023910029; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 09:47:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11482; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 09:46:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 26 Jan 1997 09:38:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10791; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 09:38:53 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10785; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 09:38:50 -0500 Received: from home (ip112.new-cumberland.pa.pub-ip.psi.net [38.14.44.112]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA12226 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 09:38:45 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970126093637.0069d208@mindspring.com> X-Sender: lesmoore@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 09:36:40 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Moe Subject: ThinkPAd 700C battery Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm a new owner of a used Thinkpad 700C. Is there supposed to be a way of telling the computer that it has a freshly charged battery? I know on an AST we had at the office, we ordered a new battery for it because it wouldn't stay on, only to find out that the new battery did the same thing. After plowing thru the manual on this somebody found out that you had to tell the computer thaqt the battery was charged.?.? Is the 700C the same way? The battery shows 13.25v accross most of the contacts. - to + Just thoght I'd ask the group before spending another $125 on another battery. Any help appreciated... Thanks From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 26 11:47:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA042347244; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 11:47:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19358; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 11:46:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 26 Jan 1997 11:40:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18648; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 11:40:32 -0500 Received: from hupa.snfc21.pbi.net (hupa.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18636; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 11:40:29 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-117-77.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.117.77]) by hupa.snfc21.pbi.net (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id IAA27767 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 08:40:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199701261640.IAA27767@hupa.snfc21.pbi.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Subject: FS: 1.1GB Thinkpad 75x/360 Drive $300 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 08:36:41 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thinkpad Laptop Drive -- $300 -Toshiba (Model MK1002MAV) drive in IBM Thinkpad caddy -1083MB Capacity (2100 Cyl, 16 Hd, 63 Sect) -13 ms Access Time, ATA-2 Transfers -2.5" Long by 12.7mm Thick (Slim-Line) drive -Drive installed in Thinkpad 750/755/360 caddy -No Bad Sectors Worked great in my Thinkpad PT360C and TP755C laptops and will work in many others. You may have to upgrade to the latest BIOS to get this working in your older Thinkpads. Price includes UPS ground shipping and COD charges to US addresses. See http://www.toshiba.com/taisdpd/hdd2712.htm for more info on the sister drive similar to KM1002MAV installed in the caddy. \\|||// (o) (o) =========.oOO==( )==OOo.=========== || || || Thomas D. Franklin || || mailto:tomfrank@pacbell.net || || || || .oooO Oooo. || ==========( )===( )============ \ ( ) / \_) (_/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 26 13:09:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA056412185; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:09:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24455; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:09:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:02:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24043; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:02:33 -0500 Received: from bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (root@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca [199.185.130.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24036; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:02:30 -0500 Received: from LANCEN (usr4441@[199.185.130.90]) by bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (8.7.4/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA16723; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 11:48:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by LANCEN with Microsoft Mail id <01BC0B77.965E2FA0@LANCEN>; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 10:56:31 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC0B77.965E2FA0@LANCEN> From: Lance Nichols To: "'rj'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: TP701CS/Panasonic KXL-783A/WinNT 4.0 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 17:29:25 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry, but being an owner of a 701CS (with 24MB of RAM and a 520MB HDD) = AND a technical support analyst for a computer Retailer I must ask: are = you on drugs?!? The 701 is a great computer, and NT 4.0 is a good OS but it is not meant = to run on portable systems! why? why! why? Stick with Windows95 = (especially if you can get a copy of OEM-SR2) and be happy it = multitasks, recognises and supports all of the ThinkPad's hardware, and = IBM still supports the machine with that OS installed. -----Original Message----- From: rj [SMTP:rj@cais.com] Sent: Saturday, January 25, 1997 3:35 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701CS/Panasonic KXL-783A/WinNT 4.0 I'm trying to load Windows NT 4.0 on a TP701CS using a KXL-783A CD-ROM drive. Unfortunately the CD-ROM only comes with drivers for NT 3.51 and I can't get the NT loader to recognize the CD-ROM using the 3.51 driver, which I suppose makes sense. Anyway there's a DOS work around for this=20 but it's very time consuming and there doesn't seem to be a way to use the DOS workaround to load stuff after the system is installed (other than a complete re-install). Has anyone loaded NT 4.0 directly from CD-ROM using the KXL-783A and if you did, how? Alternatively, is there a way to incrementally install or re-install parts using the DOS workaround? Thanks!! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 26 15:20:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA080250019; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 15:20:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29400; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 14:28:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 26 Jan 1997 14:21:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28484; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 14:21:32 -0500 Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28478; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 14:21:28 -0500 Received: from faraday.clas.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id ab06425; 26 Jan 97 14:21 EST Received: (from jlh2r@localhost) by faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (8.7.6/8.6.6) id OAA53914 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 14:21:08 -0500 From: John-Lee Pratt Holmes Message-Id: <199701261921.OAA53914@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU> Subject: suspend/hibernate problem on new hard drive To: thinkpad Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 14:21:08 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just installed a 1.2 G hard drive in a thinkpad 355 purchased from Kahlon corp. for $470. I used the Iomega 2 Gb (compressed) backup to load my old info after re-installing PCDOS 7 and Win 3.11. I had to rescue some icons for my desktop screen but otherwise everything went fine except -- when I try to use any of the suspend or hibernate functions the computer hangs. I used the fn f5 key to bypass config.sys and autoexec.bat in case those were the problem but the same thing occurred. I upgraded the bios with I think version 1.2 supplied by Kahlon. Does anyone have any ideas as to the possible source of this problem? Mucho gracios en avance 2% more to view P John Lee Pratt Holmes Graduate Student, Dept. of Government and Foreign Affairs Univ. of Virginia From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 26 16:38:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA093104682; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 16:38:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09259; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 16:36:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 26 Jan 1997 16:28:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08483; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 16:28:47 -0500 Received: from hupa.snfc21.pbi.net (hupa.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08477; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 16:28:40 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-121-21.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.121.21]) by hupa.snfc21.pbi.net (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA04413 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:28:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199701262128.NAA04413@hupa.snfc21.pbi.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Subject: Re: 1.1GB Thinkpad 75x/360 Drive - Sold Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:24:10 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks to those who expressed an interest, but the dive has sold. ---------- > Thinkpad Laptop Drive -- $300 > -Toshiba (Model MK1002MAV) drive in IBM Thinkpad caddy > -1083MB Capacity (2100 Cyl, 16 Hd, 63 Sect) > -13 ms Access Time, ATA-2 Transfers > -2.5" Long by 12.7mm Thick (Slim-Line) drive > -Drive installed in Thinkpad 750/755/360 caddy > -No Bad Sectors > > Worked great in my Thinkpad PT360C and TP755C laptops and will work in many > others. You may have to upgrade to the latest BIOS to get this working in > your older Thinkpads. Price includes UPS ground shipping and COD charges > to US addresses. > > See http://www.toshiba.com/taisdpd/hdd2712.htm for more info on the sister > drive similar to KM1002MAV installed in the caddy. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Jan 26 20:14:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA143587684; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 20:14:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22263; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 20:13:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 26 Jan 1997 20:04:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21638; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 20:04:44 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21632; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 20:04:40 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-18.usc.edu [128.125.223.162]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id RAA05124; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 17:04:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970125211526.013dd088@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 17:04:54 -0800 To: "Mark M. Ingerman" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Boot Manager - win95 and os/2 Cc: Thinkpad Forum Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:04 PM 1/25/97 -0500, Mark M. Ingerman wrote: >The third drive will be the last 350 Mb ( or so ) of the physical disk. I >can't format using FAT because it won't work in any sectors past the first >1Gb on a physical disk. If I format using HPFS ( OS/2's format ), Win95 >can't read it. If I format using Win95's Fat32, I don't think that the >OS/2 partition can read it. > >Any suggestions? Get Partition Magic by PowerQuest. I don't believe I had any trouble at all putting a FAT partition farther than 1 GB into the physical disk. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 27 00:30:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA183123020; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 00:30:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18071; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 00:29:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 27 Jan 1997 00:22:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17355; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 00:22:01 -0500 Received: from relay1.shore.net (root@relay1.shore.net [192.233.85.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17345; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 00:21:57 -0500 From: Received: from northshore.shore.net (root@shell1.shore.net [192.233.85.1]) by relay1.shore.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA10323 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 00:21:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from bills-computer (max2-124.mfs.shore.net [206.243.167.124]) by northshore.shore.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id AAA07676 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 00:21:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970127052516.00673c7c@shore.net> X-Sender: snoopy@shore.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 00:25:16 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: misdirected mail Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > >I am looking for a cable to fit the external scsi(60)Pin port on the back of my >dock 1 > thanks for any help From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 27 03:34:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA211964059; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 03:34:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00696; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 03:33:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 27 Jan 1997 03:28:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29748; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 03:28:23 -0500 Received: from relay.ins.net (root@popp.ins.de [192.129.55.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29739; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 03:28:19 -0500 Received: from news.mlc.de ([194.122.215.34]) by relay.ins.net (8.8.2/INS-1.5.1) with ESMTP id JAA29968 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:28:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from riscy.mlc.de (riscy.mlc.de [193.98.180.65]) by news.mlc.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22520 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:22:29 +0100 Received: from notesgw by riscy.mlc.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA24472; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:20:51 +0100 Received: by NOTESGW.mlc.de.mlc.de (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.17/1.2) id AA0074; Mon, 27 Jan 97 09:16:44 -0500 Message-Id: <9701271416.AA0074@NOTESGW.mlc.de.mlc.de> Received: by MLC Ratingen (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 83CDDAA89C35112E412564280057D97B; Mon, 27 Jan 97 09:16:34 To: thinkpad From: Stefan Tilkov Date: 23 Jan 97 17:11:17 Subject: Dock I - IDE or SCSI? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As the recent discussion showed, the integrated SCSI chip in the old Dock I seems to perform very poorly. Now - what would you recommend? Should I buy a SCSI disk and use the ISA slot for an Adapatec 15xx or would I be better off buying a fast EIDE drive? Thanks, Stefan Tilkov BTW: Does anyone have the part number(s) of the IBM kits needed for installing a SCSI and/or IDE drive? What restrictions are there for the disks (e.g. height?) I'm still waiting for my Dock I but I don't want to have it sitting on my desk for months while I wait for some stupid $2 part. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 27 04:59:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA223189156; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 04:59:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08337; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 04:58:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 27 Jan 1997 04:52:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07825; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 04:52:39 -0500 Received: from kari.fm.unit.no (0@kari.fm.unit.no [129.241.26.200]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07817; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 04:52:33 -0500 Received: from demokrit.fm.unit.no (30256@demokrit-26.fm.unit.no [129.241.26.211]) by kari.fm.unit.no (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA02200; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:52:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (larsev@localhost) by demokrit.fm.unit.no (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id KAA06346; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:52:32 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: demokrit.fm.unit.no: larsev owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:52:31 +0100 (MET) From: Lars Evensen To: "Mark M. Ingerman" Cc: Thinkpad Forum Subject: Re: Boot Manager - win95 and os/2 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I have a 2.1 Gb drive on my thinkpad. I would like to have both OS/2 and > Win95 on the same drive with boot manager. Here is my problem. I wnat > three partitions. The first the win95 boot partition. The second, the > OS/2 boot partition. And the third a shared partiion ( would be D for > both boots ). I have several software packages which run on both > platforms and I want the share data. The problem is this: > > The third drive will be the last 350 Mb ( or so ) of the physical disk. I > can't format using FAT because it won't work in any sectors past the first > 1Gb on a physical disk. If I format using HPFS ( OS/2's format ), Win95 > can't read it. If I format using Win95's Fat32, I don't think that the > OS/2 partition can read it. First, my suggestionis that you first install bootmanager ( it's installed as a primary partition ) in the beginning of you harddrive. You can then install the primary partitions ( those for OS/ and win 95 ) at the end of the harddrive. Finaly you create the logical partition in the free space that you have left on the drive. I only see one problem with your partitioning scheme. Boot manager willl only allow you to boot from partitions that are less than 512 Mb. As I understand at least one of your partitions will be bigger than that, so you might want to rethink the way you want to partition. I also believe that FAT will allow you to format the parts of the disk that you are using. I have successfully done this myself with PC-DOS 6.3. For your information, there is a driver for OS/2 that will allow it to read FAT32, so you might want to get a hold of it. If you have any more questions about this, feel free to send me a mail. CU -- LArs Evensen, Overordnet TillitsValgt (OTV) ved FIM, NTNU E.B.Schieldrops Vei 11-16 E-mail : larsev@fm.unit.no 7033 Trondheim WWW : http://www.fm.unit.no/~larsev/ Norway Phone : + 47 - 73 88 89 01 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 27 07:12:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA240317164; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:12:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25424; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:12:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:07:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25143; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:07:54 -0500 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25136; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:07:50 -0500 Received: from homer08.u.washington.edu (homer08.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.12]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA10864; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 04:06:21 -0800 Received: from localhost (mjk@localhost) by homer08.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA79968; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 04:07:47 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 04:07:46 -0800 (PST) From: Myoung-Jun Kim To: Lance Nichols Cc: "'rj'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: TP701CS/Panasonic KXL-783A/WinNT 4.0 In-Reply-To: <01BC0B77.965E2FA0@LANCEN> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, I also have 701C with 24M RAM & 540M HDD. I found NT 4.0 is more stable, even faster (with enough RAM) than Win95 in my desktop PC. So, I decied to use the same OS in 701. Yes, NT 4.0 does not support 701 hardwares. But, I found video/audio driviers at chips&tech/ESS web sites, and I eventually got a 701C/NT 4.0 tuned. I have still some problems. Suspend/resume doesn't work. ( I like to hear other's experience. Actually, I am suspecting the hardware. ) However, the hibernation works well. Another problem is the confliction of the video driver & ZIP-parallel driver. So, I use plain vga (16 colors) when I need the ZIP-drive. On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, Lance Nichols wrote: > Sorry, but being an owner of a 701CS (with 24MB of RAM and a 520MB HDD) AND a technical support analyst for a computer Retailer I must ask: are you on drugs?!? > > The 701 is a great computer, and NT 4.0 is a good OS but it is not meant to run on portable systems! why? why! why? Stick with Windows95 (especially if you can get a copy of OEM-SR2) and be happy it multitasks, recognises and supports all of the ThinkPad's hardware, and IBM still supports the machine with that OS installed. > > -----Original Message----- > From: rj [SMTP:rj@cais.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 1997 3:35 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: TP701CS/Panasonic KXL-783A/WinNT 4.0 > > I'm trying to load Windows NT 4.0 on a TP701CS using a KXL-783A CD-ROM > drive. Unfortunately the CD-ROM only comes with drivers for NT 3.51 and > I can't get the NT loader to recognize the CD-ROM using the 3.51 driver, > which I suppose makes sense. Anyway there's a DOS work around for this > but it's very time consuming and there doesn't seem to be a way to use > the DOS workaround to load stuff after the system is installed (other > than a complete re-install). > > Has anyone loaded NT 4.0 directly from CD-ROM using the KXL-783A and if > you did, how? Alternatively, is there a way to incrementally install or > re-install parts using the DOS workaround? > > Thanks!! > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 27 07:46:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA245049211; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:46:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28553; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:46:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:41:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28228; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:41:54 -0500 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28222; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:41:50 -0500 Received: from cais2.cais.com (cais2.cais.com [199.0.216.200]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/cais-andrew-jdf) with SMTP id HAA13515; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:36:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:36:46 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: Myoung-Jun Kim Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: TP701CS/Panasonic KXL-783A/WinNT 4.0 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, Myoung-Jun Kim wrote: > > Well, I also have 701C with 24M RAM & 540M HDD. I found NT 4.0 is more > stable, even faster (with enough RAM) than Win95 in my desktop PC. So, I This seems to be true on my 701 as well but I haven't run any objective tests. > decied to use the same OS in 701. Yes, NT 4.0 does not support 701 > hardwares. But, I found video/audio driviers at chips&tech/ESS web sites, what hardware, other than that mentioned below, have you had problems with? > and I eventually got a 701C/NT 4.0 tuned. I have still some problems. > Suspend/resume doesn't work. ( I like to hear other's experience. > Actually, I am suspecting the hardware. ) However, the hibernation works Suspend/resume seems to work on my 701 except that the clock is frozen while in suspend. > well. Another problem is the confliction of the video driver & > ZIP-parallel driver. So, I use plain vga (16 colors) when I need the > ZIP-drive. I was considering a ZIP/JAZ drive so your comment is of some interest, however, I don't understand how the video driver conflicts with the parallel port. > > On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, Lance Nichols wrote: > > > Sorry, but being an owner of a 701CS (with 24MB of RAM and a 520MB HDD) AND a technical support analyst for a computer Retailer I must ask: are you on drugs?!? > > > > The 701 is a great computer, and NT 4.0 is a good OS but it is not meant to run on portable systems! why? why! why? Stick with Windows95 (especially if you can get a copy of OEM-SR2) and be happy it multitasks, recognises and supports all of the ThinkPad's hardware, and IBM still supports the machine with that OS installed. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rj [SMTP:rj@cais.com] > > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 1997 3:35 PM > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: TP701CS/Panasonic KXL-783A/WinNT 4.0 > > > > I'm trying to load Windows NT 4.0 on a TP701CS using a KXL-783A CD-ROM > > drive. Unfortunately the CD-ROM only comes with drivers for NT 3.51 and > > I can't get the NT loader to recognize the CD-ROM using the 3.51 driver, > > which I suppose makes sense. Anyway there's a DOS work around for this > > but it's very time consuming and there doesn't seem to be a way to use > > the DOS workaround to load stuff after the system is installed (other > > than a complete re-install). > > > > Has anyone loaded NT 4.0 directly from CD-ROM using the KXL-783A and if > > you did, how? Alternatively, is there a way to incrementally install or > > re-install parts using the DOS workaround? > > > > Thanks!! > > > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 27 11:43:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA286253379; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:42:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24956; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:41:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:35:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24222; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:35:01 -0500 Received: from namaste.cc.columbia.edu (cu8264@namaste.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.141]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24194; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:34:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (pm119@localhost) by namaste.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA11543 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:34:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:34:42 -0500 (EST) From: Paulo Magalhaes Sender: pm119@columbia.edu To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: HD replacement (part II) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thank you for all the replies to my query. I have been quoted $339 for a 1.2 GB IBM disk by Bason Computers (1-800-400-9064). Has anyone dealt with them before? Doesn't this price sound a little too cheap? Again, many thanks for your comments. -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 27 13:52:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA016221131; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:52:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09769; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:48:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:42:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09050; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:42:10 -0500 Received: from bmrl.med.uiuc.edu ([128.174.25.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08994; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:41:47 -0500 Received: from papyrus.uiuc.edu (kyoto-1.slip.uiuc.edu [130.126.26.77]) by bmrl.med.uiuc.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA26884; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:40:47 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <32ECF7ED.51A4@bmrl.med.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:46:05 -0600 From: John Joowon Lee Organization: University of Illinois X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: HD replacement (part II) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I just joined this mailing list and I haven't seen part I of your comments. Since I have been looking for a HD upgrade for my TP755C, I've been shopping around and asking around as you have been. It almosts seems as though you've been quoted a price for a SCSI 3.5" drive, meant for a desktop. The price you mentioned is at least $100 below the cost of any other drive that I've encountered that is claimed to be usable with a TP. I've seen bare, (sans caddy) 1.2 GB, 2.5" drives manufactured by Toshiba or Seagate advertised by Insight, Inc., for about $400 each. Simple Technology sells 1.0 GB drives in a caddy designed to fit the TP for about $450. I tried one and returned it because it couldn't power-down during APM-suspend under Win95. I've seen several complaints about APM incompatibilities in the archives to this mailing list. The only success I've seen mentioned was with an individual who installed a third-party drive in a third-party caddy in a TP755CE (my memory is fuzzy on this; look in the 1996 archives and search for 'hard' or 'HD' if you are interested). Sigma, Inc., the OEM supplier of TP drives, sells a 1.0 GB drive for $700, and the drive falls under existing IBM service contracts. Sigma also warranties the drive beyond IBM contracts for a total of three years of drive-ownership. They also sell a 1.4 GB drive for $800, which is marginally better in price/capacity. There is some useful information on hard drive replacement at the web-site for the Road Warrior Outpost (please cf. Yahoo). Hope this helps... John #################################################################### Subject: HD replacement (part II) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:34:42 -0500 From: Paulo Magalhaes To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Thank you for all the replies to my query. I have been quoted $339 for a 1.2 GB IBM disk by Bason Computers (1-800-400-9064). Has anyone dealt with them before? Doesn't this price sound a little too cheap? Again, many thanks for your comments. -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 27 14:07:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA020092055; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:07:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12468; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:06:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:00:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11565; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:00:08 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11500; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:59:52 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-5 #9830) id <01IEPG567VOG8WWHG9@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:59:26 MST Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:52:30 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: re: HD replacement (part II) In-Reply-To: "Message dated Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:46:05 -0600" <32ECF7ED.51A4@bmrl.med.uiuc.edu> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IEPGHTJMLQ8WWHG9@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I've seen bare, (sans caddy) 1.2 GB, 2.5" drives manufactured by Toshiba > or Seagate advertised by Insight, Inc., for about $400 each. I see an ad in the Computer Hotline from K.D.S. at 818 700-9945 (they are in Northridge (near Los Angeles) California) that lists the Toshiba MK1301MAV 1.3gig for $365 (which I believe will fit). These guys also list kds@pacificnet.net for an email address. I've never done business with them and the ad also says "Call for our current price. Not responsible for typography" ... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 27 14:13:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA021172391; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:13:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13077; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:11:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:06:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12487; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:06:24 -0500 Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12474; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:06:17 -0500 Received: from homer14.u.washington.edu (homer14.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.15]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA15504; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:03:47 -0800 Received: from localhost (mjk@localhost) by homer14.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA191126; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:06:12 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:06:12 -0800 (PST) From: Myoung-Jun Kim To: rj Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: TP701CS/Panasonic KXL-783A/WinNT 4.0 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > > > Well, I also have 701C with 24M RAM & 540M HDD. I found NT 4.0 is more > > stable, even faster (with enough RAM) than Win95 in my desktop PC. So, I > > This seems to be true on my 701 as well but I haven't run any objective > tests. > > > decied to use the same OS in 701. Yes, NT 4.0 does not support 701 > > hardwares. But, I found video/audio driviers at chips&tech/ESS web sites, > > what hardware, other than that mentioned below, have you had problems > with? No, those are all the problem I have currently except one more minor problem. NT cannot be rebooted after installing chips&tech video driver. And, sometime, the screen goes crazy instead of rebooting. So, I need to turn it off, and on again manuelly. > > > and I eventually got a 701C/NT 4.0 tuned. I have still some problems. > > Suspend/resume doesn't work. ( I like to hear other's experience. > > Actually, I am suspecting the hardware. ) However, the hibernation works > > > Suspend/resume seems to work on my 701 except that the clock is > frozen while in suspend. Maybe, my 701 has suspend/resume problem. Win 95 also crashes after suspend/resume. > > well. Another problem is the confliction of the video driver & > > ZIP-parallel driver. So, I use plain vga (16 colors) when I need the > > ZIP-drive. > > I was considering a ZIP/JAZ drive so your comment is of some interest, > however, I don't understand how the video driver conflicts with the > parallel port. > > Mine is parallel ZIP-drive, which uses SCSI over parallel port called PPA3. The ppa3 driver is kind of unstable. Sometime, it crashes in booting time without any reason. I can restart NT then. But, with chips&tech video driver, it gurantees to crash. :( However, I think ppa3 driver for NT is a lot better than that in Win95. I have seen Win 95 is stoped so many times during copying files into/from a ZIP-drive. Once booted, the ppa3 driver for NT is quite stable & fast. I have experienced 24M/min in NT. > > > > > Sorry, but being an owner of a 701CS (with 24MB of RAM and a 520MB HDD) AND a technical support analyst for a computer Retailer I must ask: are you on drugs?!? > > > > > > The 701 is a great computer, and NT 4.0 is a good OS but it is not meant to run on portable systems! why? why! why? Stick with Windows95 (especially if you can get a copy of OEM-SR2) and be happy it multitasks, recognises and supports all of the Thi nkPad's hardware, and IBM still supports the machine with that OS installed. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: rj [SMTP:rj@cais.com] > > > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 1997 3:35 PM > > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > > Subject: TP701CS/Panasonic KXL-783A/WinNT 4.0 > > > > > > I'm trying to load Windows NT 4.0 on a TP701CS using a KXL-783A CD-ROM > > > drive. Unfortunately the CD-ROM only comes with drivers for NT 3.51 and > > > I can't get the NT loader to recognize the CD-ROM using the 3.51 driver, > > > which I suppose makes sense. Anyway there's a DOS work around for this > > > but it's very time consuming and there doesn't seem to be a way to use > > > the DOS workaround to load stuff after the system is installed (other > > > than a complete re-install). > > > > > > Has anyone loaded NT 4.0 directly from CD-ROM using the KXL-783A and if > > > you did, how? Alternatively, is there a way to incrementally install or > > > re-install parts using the DOS workaround? > > > > > > Thanks!! > > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Jan 27 17:52:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA076735576; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:52:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06282; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:51:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:44:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05311; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:44:17 -0500 Received: from merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (cu8264@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05290; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:44:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (pm119@localhost) by merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA28535 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:44:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:44:05 -0500 (EST) From: Paulo Magalhaes Sender: pm119@columbia.edu To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: HD choice (part 3) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My apologies for continuing this thread. Hopefully it will be useful for other members of this list. In the mean time, my thanks to those who have provided information. The best price I've been quoted for a replacement for my TP750C HD is an IBM 1.2GB for $339. The company (Bason Computers, 1-800-400-9064), however, did not give me complete assurance that this drive will work with my machine. They provided me with the model number (DPRA-21215) and told me to ask IBM. IBM in turn has a nice web page with all the specs (http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/dpra/dpratek.htm), but when I called them, they were unable to say whether the drive would or would not work with the TP750!!! IBM... Since this Thinkpad has been discontinued, they have very little information on the machine! No comments... What I would appreciate from those more "technical-minded" in this list is their opinion regarding the possibility of installing this drive (IBM DPRA-21215, 1.2GB) on my old and trusted TP750C... Additionally, if those who have successfully upgraded their original HD are willing to share their experiences, I'm willing to compile a comprehensive summary to be added to the FAQ. As usual, many thanks to all those who spend their time sharing precious information - it's what keeps this list so useful, after all, isn't it?... Regards from NY, -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 28 00:23:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA154888996; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:23:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08341; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:22:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:16:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07375; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:14:01 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07265; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:13:40 -0500 Received: from 701c (liv-33.rust.net [206.42.195.133]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.4/8.8.0) with SMTP id AAA22078 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:12:24 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970128001308.007100f0@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 8 (32) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:13:08 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: sneaker net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm thinking of replacing my 28.8 PC card modem with one of the new Megahertz 33.6 combo modem / ethernet cards (someone wants my old one). I would like to improve my connectability with my desktop machine in the basement. I do most of my computing on my thinkpad on the main floor. Both systems run Win95. If I stick a twisted pair ethernet card into the basement computer and connect the 2 what kind of major problems am I looking at? I've never tried this before except normal use Novell networks. Will this interfere with my Dial-up networking? B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 28 00:51:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA159090671; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:51:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10798; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:49:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:43:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10380; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:43:44 -0500 Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10372; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:43:40 -0500 Received: from faraday.clas.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa12574; 28 Jan 97 0:41 EST Received: (from jlh2r@localhost) by faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (8.7.6/8.6.6) id AAA95786 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:39:20 -0500 From: John-Lee Pratt Holmes Message-Id: <199701280539.AAA95786@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU> Subject: non-ibm hard drives in Thinkpad To: thinkpad Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:39:20 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just found out that the hard drive I received from Kahlon is a Toshiba in an IBM case. This is the likely reason for subsequent problems with the suspend, hibernation modes. A technician at Simple Technology which makes such drives told me that this is a well-known problem which occurs with some thinkpads. He said it was not model-specific (mine's a 355) or drive-specific which doesn't sound completely convincing. Apparently most of the companies selling in PC Magazine or Computer Shopper are dealing in non-Thinkpad drives and may result in this problem. Does anyone know of a company which sells IBM drives for a reasonable price? Micro Mall sells a Quantum drive in an IBM case -- is that more IBM compatible? Any input on this problem, experiences with it would be helpful to me. Fortunately, Kahlon will allow me to send mine back for a refund within 30 days. Right now I'm leaning towards sending it back since susp/hibernate are fairly important functions although I'm not sure if they're worth the rather pricey IBM drives. Regards, jlph John Lee Pratt Holmes Graduate Student, Dept. of Government and Foreign Affairs Univ. of Virginia From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 28 05:14:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA198606455; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 05:14:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA29833; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 05:13:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 05:09:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA29462; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 05:09:13 -0500 Received: from lithsun.epfl.ch (root@lithsun.epfl.ch [128.178.72.19]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA29449; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 05:09:09 -0500 Received: from lithsun9.epfl.ch (ballim@lithsun9.epfl.ch [128.178.72.28]) by lithsun.epfl.ch (8.8.5/8.8.0/EPFL-2.1/SERVER) with ESMTP id LAA26335 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:09:05 +0100 (MET) From: ballim@lith.di.epfl.ch (Afzal Ballim) Received: (from ballim@localhost) by lithsun9.epfl.ch (8.8.5/8.8.0/EPFL-2.1/CLIENT) id LAA04982 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:09:04 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:09:04 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199701281009.LAA04982@lithsun9.epfl.ch> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Hello Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: 0wQAywJW2bKJkK8MFMx8uA== Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Just wanted to introduce myself. My lab. bought me a 755CDV to use for presentations and teaching. The use on an overhead is a very good feature (I find). It's a shame they discontinued it. Altohugh I sent off the registration forms in December to IBM (Switzerland), they never sent anything back to me. That's a bit of a problem as I have a number of difficulties with the machine and the help line (I presume) requires you to give them a registration number. I got rid of OS2 and installed win95, which works quite well. There's various small problems (most are documented in the various files wrt win95 on the IBM pc site). However, recently two things started mysteriously happening. First, when booting on win95 it keeps trying to access the A: drive, even when the CD-ROM is installed. The "My Computer" icon shows both A: and D: (the cdrom). I'm using the win95 default drivers for the cdrom (BTW). If I exit to DOS and return to win95 after, the cdrom is no longer visible. I've checked the various boot files and .ini files, but no mention is made to A: in any of them. More seriously, I can no longer access PCMCIA cards. The win95 PCMCIA wizard tells me that the slots are empty. I reinstalled the IBM PCMCIA drivers, and they tell me the same thing. The EZ test gives me an OK on PCMCIA1 (2 is greyed out). -Afzal Ballim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 28 07:51:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA222035899; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:51:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16473; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:51:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:46:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16009; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:45:57 -0500 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA15996; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:45:53 -0500 Received: from luzern_ppp54.tic.ch (luzern_ppp54.tic.ch [193.193.148.56]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09690; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:48:37 +0100 (MET) Received: by luzern_ppp54.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BC0D21.DC2AB700@luzern_ppp54.tic.ch>; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:47:53 +-100 Message-Id: <01BC0D21.DC2AB700@luzern_ppp54.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'Afzal Ballim'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Hello Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:45:03 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Afzal, Strange - I also bought a Thinkpad in CH, sent off my registration card and never heard anything from IBM. That was 6 months ago... Fortunately I've not yet needed any maintenance. Anyone else in CH not getting any response from IBM? cheers, Andrew Richards. ---------- From: Afzal Ballim[SMTP:ballim@lith.di.epfl.ch] Sent: Dienstag, 28. Januar 1997 12:09 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Hello Just wanted to introduce myself. My lab. bought me a 755CDV to use for presentations and teaching. The use on an overhead is a very good feature (I find). It's a shame they discontinued it. Altohugh I sent off the registration forms in December to IBM (Switzerland), they never sent anything back to me. That's a bit of a problem as I have a number of difficulties with the machine and the help line (I presume) requires you to give them a registration number. I got rid of OS2 and installed win95, which works quite well. There's various small problems (most are documented in the various files wrt win95 on the IBM pc site). However, recently two things started mysteriously happening. First, when booting on win95 it keeps trying to access the A: drive, even when the CD-ROM is installed. The "My Computer" icon shows both A: and D: (the cdrom). I'm using the win95 default drivers for the cdrom (BTW). If I exit to DOS and return to win95 after, the cdrom is no longer visible. I've checked the various boot files and .ini files, but no mention is made to A: in any of them. More seriously, I can no longer access PCMCIA cards. The win95 PCMCIA wizard tells me that the slots are empty. I reinstalled the IBM PCMCIA drivers, and they tell me the same thing. The EZ test gives me an OK on PCMCIA1 (2 is greyed out). -Afzal Ballim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 28 08:53:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA231169595; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:53:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22636; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:52:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:47:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21749; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:47:23 -0500 Received: from ra.isisnet.com (root@ra.isisnet.com [199.45.83.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21739; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:47:19 -0500 Received: from ra.isisnet.com by ra.isisnet.com (8.8.3/SMI-SVR4) id JAA12931; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:44:01 -0400 (AST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970128134325.006d8914@isisnet.com> X-Sender: robsteve@isisnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:43:25 -0400 To: Bill Bryan , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Robert G. Stevens" Subject: Re: sneaker net Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 12:13 AM 28/01/97 -0500, Bill Bryan wrote: > I'm thinking of replacing my 28.8 PC card modem with one of the new >Megahertz 33.6 combo modem / ethernet cards (someone wants my old one). I >would like to improve my connectability with my desktop machine in the >basement. I do most of my computing on my thinkpad on the main floor. >Both systems run Win95. If I stick a twisted pair ethernet card into the >basement computer and connect the 2 what kind of major problems am I >looking at? I've never tried this before except normal use Novell >networks. Will this interfere with my Dial-up networking? > >B/B >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb > "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > > Bill: I have done what you described and it works fine. Before installing or inserting the Megahertz card get their latest drivers from their www site. The only problem you may incur is with the cabling. On twisted pair, you can connect two machines together without a hub but the wiring is different. You need the same config used to connect hubs together. The normal cable that goes from the computer to the hub is straight through. To connect two computers directly, I think the pairs 1 and 3 and 2 and 6 need to be flipped. You should confirm this. As for problems with ThinkPads, sometimes they do not like to enter suspend or hibernate with the card in. If you have this problem, stop the card though the pcmcia icon and then go into suspend. I don't have this problem any more and assume it may be from loading the latest Megahertz drives. Regards Robert Stevens 755CDV From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 28 08:55:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA231509707; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:55:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22871; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:54:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:49:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22166; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:49:42 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22156; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:49:37 -0500 Received: from user-37kb95f.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95f.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.175]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA31756; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:49:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199701281349.IAA31756@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "John-Lee Pratt Holmes" , "thinkpad" Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 00:01:44 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: suspend/hibernate problem on new hard drive Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Most likely, the drive is not 100% compatable with the thinkpad. You might also make sure that you are at the latest ver of the TP BIOS. On Sun, 26 Jan 1997 14:21:08 -0500 (EST), John-Lee Pratt Holmes wrote: > >I just installed a 1.2 G hard drive in a thinkpad 355 purchased >from Kahlon corp. for $470. I used the Iomega 2 Gb >(compressed) backup to load my old info after re-installing >PCDOS 7 and Win 3.11. I had to rescue some icons for my >desktop screen but otherwise everything went fine except -- > >when I try to use any of the suspend or hibernate functions the >computer hangs. > >I used the fn f5 key to bypass config.sys and autoexec.bat in >case those were the problem but the same thing occurred. I >upgraded the bios with I think version 1.2 supplied by Kahlon. >Does anyone have any ideas as to the possible source of this >problem? Mucho gracios en avance > 2% more to view >P > > > > >John Lee Pratt Holmes >Graduate Student, Dept. of >Government and Foreign Affairs >Univ. of Virginia > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 28 11:11:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA260547867; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:11:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11134; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:07:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:01:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10406; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:01:43 -0500 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10383; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:01:37 -0500 Received: from multiplesanta.execpc.com (multiplesanta.execpc.com [169.207.5.161]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id KAA02279 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:07:14 -0600 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad "Heard on the Street" stuff Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:58:41 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <32ee219a.3705954@mailgate.execpc.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/16.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu =46rom today's Computer Reseller News: (http://techweb.cmp.com/crn/issues/720/) IBM Plans New Notebooks By Jeff Bliss Somers, N.Y. 8:15 a.m. EST Tues., Jan. 28, 1997 ............. The IBM PC Co. will replace their current low-end notebook line in May with products that feature bigger screens and more slots for peripherals, said sources familiar with the company's plans. With the introduction of the new ThinkPads, IBM will begin phasing out its ThinkPad 365 models, discontinuing them by the end of the year, the source said.=20 The new product family, which will consist of two to four models, will cost about $2,200 on average, a knowledgable source said. Some models will include 12.1-inch TFT screens and separate bays for the CD-ROM and hard drive, the source said. Currently the Somers-based company provides the large TFT screens only on top-of-the-line ThinkPads and does not have separate bays for the CD-ROM and hard drive on any models. Other features on the new machines will stress ease of use, the source said. IBM would not comment on future products. Notebooks in the crrent entry level 365 line feature 100MHz, 120MHz and 133MHz Pentium processors; 8 Mbytes of memory; drives with up to 1.35 Gbytes of storage; four-speed and six-speed CD-ROMs; and dual-scan and TFT screens. IBM in the past six months has refocused its sales efforts on lower-priced models to capture market share in the profitable mid-range and low-end markets. Toshiba America Information Systems Inc., Irvine, Calif., the No. 1 notebook maker, dominates in those segments.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 28 14:22:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA007149325; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:22:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02969; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:18:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:14:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02438; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:14:40 -0500 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02429; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:14:35 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id OAA06892 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:11:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA1751; Tue, 28 Jan 97 14:11:17 -0800 Message-Id: <9701282211.AA1751@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id E3CEBFE150F2824A8525642D0068E86E; Tue, 28 Jan 97 14:11:17 EDT To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 28 Jan 97 14:08:51 EDT Subject: overseas power/phone X-Lotus-Type: Memo w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu i'm sending a laptop on tour of australia, singapore, taiwan, hong kong, and tokyo next month. can anyone tell me what kind of power adapter i'll need to send with it, or recommend a place i can buy what i need? phone adapters, too if possible. thanks in advance. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ ------------------------------- Although I can accept talking scarecrows, lions and great wizards of emerald cities, I find it hard to believe there is no paperwork involved when your house lands on a witch. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 28 17:26:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA059590354; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:25:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20384; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:19:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:12:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19509; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:12:17 -0500 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19502; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:12:08 -0500 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA01095; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:12:02 -0800 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:12:01 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Parker To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: sneaker net In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970128001308.007100f0@rust.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Bill Bryan wrote: > I'm thinking of replacing my 28.8 PC card modem with one of the new > Megahertz 33.6 combo modem / ethernet cards (someone wants my old one). I > would like to improve my connectability with my desktop machine in the > basement. I do most of my computing on my thinkpad on the main floor. > Both systems run Win95. If I stick a twisted pair ethernet card into the > basement computer and connect the 2 what kind of major problems am I > looking at? I've never tried this before except normal use Novell > networks. Will this interfere with my Dial-up networking? It should be fine. I've got dialup PPP on my [ick] 14.4 modem and Ethernet running TCPIP and the Windows 95 network stuff on my TP560 using the oh so cheap Home and Away 14.4/10bT card from IBM. My server is running OS/2 and it all works fine. I have never tried having both PPP and Ethernet active at the same time though. My OS/2 box handles the PPP stuff while I'm at home. While the H&A is a pain with Win95, it is still a great deal for $60 or so if you can bash your way through the install. =) Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 28 17:31:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA060550679; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:31:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21166; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:26:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:21:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20648; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:21:47 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20634; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:21:41 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16637; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:27:11 -0700 Message-Id: <32EE7B7A.7286@wwsi.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:19:38 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Verne/VENTANA Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: overseas power/phone X-Priority: Normal References: <9701282211.AA1751@lgate.vmedia.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Michael, You'll need a number of different ones. Hong Kong is UK, Tokyo is Japanese (which is different -- two prong AC at 100 Hz), etc. There are packs that you can buy with all the phone plugs and AC adapters you need, and that's what I'd recommend. ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Electronic Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 28 17:56:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA066682176; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:56:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24545; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:54:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:49:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23936; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:49:12 -0500 Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23919; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:48:54 -0500 Received: from falkor (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.2/8.8.2-biteme) with SMTP id QAA18806 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:48:45 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199701282248.QAA18806@Kitten.mcs.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ron Heiby" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:48:34 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: overseas power/phone Reply-To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > ... or recommend a place i can buy what i need? phone adapters, too I recommend Teleadapt @ 408-370-5105, or (in the UK) 081 421 4444. When I travelled to the UK, they were able to help me very well. Their catalog indicates that they should be able to handle power or telephone adapting for pretty much anywhere there is power or phone. They even told me that their own power adapter would likely cost more than I would have to spend on one at the airport, and recommended I go that route! Their phone adapter was high quality construction and worked perfectly. Good luck! -- Ron. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 28 17:58:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA067282327; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:58:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24980; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:57:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:53:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24388; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:53:14 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24377; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:53:10 -0500 From: Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA155635 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:53:05 GMT Received: from slip166-72-214-111.ca.us.ibm.net(166.72.214.111) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smajl8CZt; Tue Jan 28 22:52:40 1997 Received: by slip166-72-214-111 (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id OAA000.87; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:52:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199701281952.OAA000.87@slip166-72-214-111> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 14:46:20 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: 365 Series & Preloaded Operating Systems... X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <86_140_4_854480780> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > It's almost funny... > Actually, it's more frightening or ridiculous than that. I have a friend who works for IBM. He works for the Personal Software group. His job is working with PSP marketing reps to show ("networked") customers their products (OS/2 Warp, Warp Server, COBOL, etc.). He ordered a 760 awhile ago through the internal IBM source (paid for out of his budget) and it came with windows '95 and all the OS/2 products shipped separately. > Here in Canada, if I wish to order a 365XD preloaded with OS/2, I am told that > it would an extra charge, as they ship with Windows 95 *only*. > > Is this a foretaste of things to come? What a commitment by IBM to their > operating system! > > Comments > ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 28 18:46:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA076625166; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 18:46:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00182; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 18:44:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 18:39:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29524; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 18:39:25 -0500 Received: from wdl1.wdl.lmco.com ([137.249.32.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29514; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 18:39:18 -0500 Received: from conic.lmco.com by wdl1.wdl.lmco.com (SMI-8.6/WDL-5.0) id PAA27847; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:38:33 -0800 Message-Id: <32EE8D7B.5CF7@conic.lmco.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:36:27 -0800 From: Tom Franklin Reply-To: tomf@conic.lmco.com Organization: Lockheed Martin Conic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: John-Lee Pratt Holmes Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: non-ibm hard drives in Thinkpad References: <199701280539.AAA95786@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu John-Lee Pratt Holmes wrote: > > I just found out that the hard drive I received from Kahlon is > a Toshiba in an IBM case. This is the likely reason for > subsequent problems with the suspend, hibernation modes. A I too haven't had luck getting the hibernation to work on Toshiba drives, but the suspend always worked fine. When posed to the group awhile back many reported hibernation worked just fine with Toshiba drives. Besides, I wouldn't get too attached to the hibernation feature as it doesn't work with the new FAT32 in OSR2 and Win97. -- **==================================================================** || Tom Franklin, Senior Engineer || || Lockheed Martin Conic, 9020 Balboa Avenue, San Diego, CA 92123 || || (619) 279-0411 x.3270, (619) 467-0535 FAX || || mailto:tomf@conic.lmco.com || **==================================================================** From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 28 20:14:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA093790443; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:14:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06518; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:07:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:01:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05824; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:01:53 -0500 Received: from en.com (root@en.com [204.89.181.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05708; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:00:32 -0500 Received: from frodo (p3-ts6.en.net [207.78.11.67]) by en.com (8.8.5/8.7.4) with SMTP id TAA28317 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 19:58:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970128195555.00686dd0@en.com> X-Sender: pech@en.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:00:31 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Pech Subject: In Search of Memory for IBM T.P.360 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am interested in buying a memory module 12 or 16 meg for my Thinkpad 360. If you have a module that would work and wish to part with please contact me at pech@en.com with discription and price. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Jan 28 23:00:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA121250434; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 23:00:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20761; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:58:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:53:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20219; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:53:24 -0500 Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20212; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:53:21 -0500 Received: from faraday.clas.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa06272; 28 Jan 97 22:52 EST Received: (from jlh2r@localhost) by faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (8.7.6/8.6.6) id WAA263988 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:52:40 -0500 From: John-Lee Pratt Holmes Message-Id: <199701290352.WAA263988@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU> Subject: 760 -- new master-slave id select? To: thinkpad Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:52:40 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is it true that the IBM 760 series (and specifically the 760 ED) has upgraded the "Master-Slave" ID select such that these drives are no longer compatible with the earlier 355, 360, 750 and 755s? Thanks. -- jlph John Lee Pratt Holmes Graduate Student, Dept. of Government and Foreign Affairs Univ. of Virginia 319 Alderman Road Charlottesville, VA 22903 (H) 804-977-0016 (W) 924-7969 (The Rotunda) (O) 980-8526 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 29 01:25:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA144549158; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:25:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01784; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:23:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:18:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01408; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:18:48 -0500 Received: from hupa.snfc21.pbi.net (hupa.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01396; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:18:44 -0500 Received: from marie-kiyoi (ppp-206-170-28-51.wnck11.pacbell.net [206.170.28.51]) by hupa.snfc21.pbi.net (8.8.4/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA09577 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:18:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <32EEEB42.6CBC@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:16:34 -0800 From: Marie & Terry Kiyoi X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PBWE (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: THINKPAD 755 CX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, my name is Jeff, i rencently got a Thinkpad 755CX, which i personally think is a great machine. Its running with a P75 Mhz, 16 ram, 810 HD, and WIN95. It is however the lower end of the two 755CX models that were in production, and was designed to have its DSP sound chip as a user upgrade. Does anyone have any experience with this? Does IBM still do it? Cost? Worth the hassel? Tips/pointers/whatnot on any subject welcome from anyone familiar with this model. Thanks a lot. Jeff K. blitzin@pacbell.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 29 01:49:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA148550592; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:49:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03414; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:49:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:45:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03153; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:45:29 -0500 Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03146; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:45:26 -0500 Received: from faraday.clas.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa26604; 29 Jan 97 1:45 EST Received: (from jlh2r@localhost) by faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (8.7.6/8.6.6) id BAA492330 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:45:23 -0500 From: John-Lee Pratt Holmes Message-Id: <199701290645.BAA492330@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU> Subject: tp760: different master-slave id select? To: thinkpad Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:45:23 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is it true that the IBM 760 series (and specifically the 760 ED) has upgraded the "Master-Slave" ID select such that these drives are no longer compatible with the earlier 355, 360, 750 and 755s? Thanks. -- jlph John Lee Pratt Holmes Graduate Student, Dept. of Government and Foreign Affairs Univ. of Virginia From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 29 08:58:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA214496302; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:58:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06917; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:57:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:48:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05335; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:48:30 -0500 Received: from stone.tic.ch ([193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05319; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:48:24 -0500 Received: from luzern_ppp19.tic.ch (luzern_ppp19.tic.ch [193.193.148.21]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA18930; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:36:56 +0100 (MET) Received: by luzern_ppp19.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BC0D40.35188A40@luzern_ppp19.tic.ch>; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:25:07 +-100 Message-Id: <01BC0D40.35188A40@luzern_ppp19.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'Robert G. Stevens'" , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: sneaker net Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:29:58 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Bill, Here's the pinout for a twisted pair cable to link two machines without going thru' a hub. It's taken from the German magazine c't, Jan 97 page = 261 and Feb 97 page 11 - NB the pin numbers... =20 ______________________________ Pin# Signal =A6 =A6 Signal Pin # 1 TX_D1+ ---__ __--- TX_D1+ 1 =A6 --__ __-- =A6 =A6 --__ __-- =A6 2 TX_D1- ---__ --__-- __--- TX_D1- 2 =A6 --__ __-- --__ __-- =A6 =A6 __--__ __--__ =A6 =A6 __-- --__-- --__ =A6 3 RX_D2+ --- __-- --__ --- RX_D2+ 3 =A6 __-- --__ =A6 =A6 __-- --__ =A6 6 RX_D2- --- --- RX_D2- 6 =A6 =A6 --------------------STOP - that's it for 10BaseT (normal twisted pair Ethernet), also 100BaseT. --------------------------------- For completeness, you may also wish to wire the following, to=20 make it work for 100BaseT4 and VG-Anylan too: =A6 =A6 =20 4 BI_D3+ ---__ __--- BI_D3+ 4 =A6 --__ __-- =A6 =A6 --__ __-- =A6 5 BI_D3- ---__ --__-- __--- BI_D3- 5 =A6 --__ __-- --__ __-- =A6 =A6 __--__ __--__ =A6 =A6 __-- --__-- --__ =A6 7 BI_D4+ --- __-- --__ --- BI_D4+ 7 =A6 __-- --__ =A6 =A6 __-- --__ =A6 8 BI_D4- --- --- BI_D4- 8 =A6____________________________=A6 cheers, Andrew. ---------- From: Robert G. Stevens[SMTP:robsteve@ra.isisnet.com] Sent: Dienstag, 28. Januar 1997 14:43 To: Bill Bryan; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: sneaker net At 12:13 AM 28/01/97 -0500, Bill Bryan wrote: > I'm thinking of replacing my 28.8 PC card modem with one of the new >Megahertz 33.6 combo modem / ethernet cards (someone wants my old one). = I >would like to improve my connectability with my desktop machine in the >basement. I do most of my computing on my thinkpad on the main floor. >Both systems run Win95. If I stick a twisted pair ethernet card into = the >basement computer and connect the 2 what kind of major problems am I >looking at? I've never tried this before except normal use Novell >networks. Will this interfere with my Dial-up networking? > =20 >B/B >=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D > Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb > "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson=20 >=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D > > > > Bill: I have done what you described and it works fine. Before installing or inserting the Megahertz card get their latest drivers from their www = site. The only problem you may incur is with the cabling. On twisted pair, = you can connect two machines together without a hub but the wiring is = different. You need the same config used to connect hubs together. The normal = cable that goes from the computer to the hub is straight through. To connect = two computers directly, I think the pairs 1 and 3 and 2 and 6 need to be flipped. You should confirm this. As for problems with ThinkPads, sometimes they do not like to enter = suspend or hibernate with the card in. If you have this problem, stop the card though the pcmcia icon and then go into suspend. I don't have this = problem any more and assume it may be from loading the latest Megahertz drives. Regards Robert Stevens 755CDV From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 29 10:45:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA235452751; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:45:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21500; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:43:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:38:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20886; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:38:41 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20868; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:38:29 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA25064; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:37:51 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199701291537.KAA25064@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: tp760: different master-slave id select? To: jlh2r@faraday.clas.virginia.edu (John-Lee Pratt Holmes) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:37:50 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199701290645.BAA492330@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU> from "John-Lee Pratt Holmes" at Jan 29, 97 01:45:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Is it true that the IBM 760 series (and specifically > the 760 ED) has upgraded the "Master-Slave" ID select > such that these drives are no longer compatible with > the earlier 355, 360, 750 and 755s? My experience suggests that this is true. I've been using some of the OEM variants of IBM's 12.5mm drives in my 760, and they are master/slave jumpered in the same manner as the older 17mm drives (360, 750, 755), which in turn appears to be opposite to the way that stock ThinkPad 760 drives are jumpered. Jumper details for some of IBM's drives are available on one of IBM's web sites; unfortunately, I don't recall the URL, but it might be in the ThinkPad mailing list archives. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 29 12:38:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA258979514; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:38:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04607; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:37:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:31:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03970; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:31:27 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03962; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:31:13 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-h-50.usc.edu [128.125.224.50]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id JAA15856; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:30:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970128215656.00712128@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:31:20 -0800 To: Bill Bryan From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: sneaker net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 12:13 AM 1/28/97 -0500, Bill Bryan wrote: > I'm thinking of replacing my 28.8 PC card modem with one of the new >Megahertz 33.6 combo modem / ethernet cards (someone wants my old one). I >would like to improve my connectability with my desktop machine in the >basement. I do most of my computing on my thinkpad on the main floor. >Both systems run Win95. If I stick a twisted pair ethernet card into the >basement computer and connect the 2 what kind of major problems am I >looking at? I've never tried this before except normal use Novell >networks. Will this interfere with my Dial-up networking? I don't know about your particular card, but using my 3Com Etherlink III (PCMCIA) in 3 different ThinkPads (750C--now sold, a 701C, and a 560), this solution works quite beautifully for me. No intereference with Dialup Networking, BTW. I don't "leave it hooked up" all of the time, since that sort of semi-defeats the purpose of the notebook machine anyway, but I like it. You may choose instead to use coax cabling instead of 10BT, since twisted pair will require a hub (or you have to make a "patch cable" in which you cross some wires--I did it once upon a time, but I didn't do it very well and eventually it quit working--very unreliable, so I bought a cheapo 8-port hub for $100 and have been happy as a clam ever since. Plus, having the hub made it easier to see broken connections and allowed me to network an Apple Macintosh (since sold) and a laser printer, which GREATLY simplifies printing from the laptop, especially with Win 95's ability to print off-line. Of course, Coax is more unwieldy too... To top it all off, if you use LapLink 7.x, it works over IPX networks (which the Win 95 peer-to-peer networking speaks) and...WOW--synching your machines, even with big data globs, goes REAL QUICK! Hey, if I were building a house, I'd set up a server running NT or Netware and wire the whole house with Ethernet. We could all share a printer and the server would provide both near-perfect security for my files (vs. what kids want to get into--they could use their *own* machine) and mass shared storage. At any rate, I've been doing what you're describing for something in the way of 3 years now (1 1/2 with Win '95). It also provides a quick & easy method for my notebook to access a shared CD-ROM for installations, etc. No worries. Enjoy! ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 29 16:41:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA016814068; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:41:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25967; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:39:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:31:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25189; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:31:46 -0500 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.184.71]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25170; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:31:39 -0500 Received: from thinkpad-755cx (cnc137044.concentric.net [206.173.215.44]) by newman.concentric.net (8.8.5/(96/11/08 1.11)) id QAA13738; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:31:30 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Message-Id: <199701292131.QAA13738@newman.concentric.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: Marie & Terry Kiyoi Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:31:28 +0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: THINKPAD 755 CX Reply-To: phong@concentric.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <32EEEB42.6CBC@pacbell.net> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Jeff, Personally, I have the 755CX with the MWave chip. Since I bought the Thinkpad with the option installed, I cannot give advice on the procedure and whether or not the installation is easy or difficult. However, I can comment that the MWave chip is a great technology as it is software upgradeable (14.4 -> 28.8 -> 33.6) and provides all the audio / comm functionality that I need. The best part is that it doesn't use up a PC Card slot. My advice is that if you can still get one for a reasonable price, do it. My comm connections are reliable and very stable. Regards, ... patrick > Hi, my name is Jeff, i rencently got a Thinkpad 755CX, which i > personally think is a great machine. Its running with a P75 Mhz, 16 > ram, 810 HD, and WIN95. It is however the lower end of the two 755CX > models that were in production, and was designed to have its DSP sound > chip as a user upgrade. Does anyone have any experience with this? > Does IBM still do it? Cost? Worth the hassel? Tips/pointers/whatnot > on any subject welcome from anyone familiar with this model. Thanks a > lot. > Jeff K. > blitzin@pacbell.net > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@concentric.net (613) 769-1544 Tel phong@connectinc.com (613) 728-4063 Fax From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Jan 29 18:43:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA047801402; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:43:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08290; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:41:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:36:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07837; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:36:00 -0500 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07831; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:35:58 -0500 Received: from gouda.execpc.com (gouda.execpc.com [169.207.12.159]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id RAA02658 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:41:45 -0600 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Read this article before buying a Toshiba Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 23:33:14 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <32f2dd61.30726582@mailgate.execpc.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/16.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu =46or those considering buying a Toshiba, please go to http://www.infoworld.com and read the latest Gripe Line column by Ed =46oster. The entire article is devoted to the extreme difficulties being faced in reaching Toshiba technical support by Toshiba users and, when they get through, getting any kind of decent support. Foster himself never even got a call back from Toshiba marketing. Tech support is only one part of the decision, but you must go in with your eyes wide open... -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 00:18:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA113041481; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:18:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA04822; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:17:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:10:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA04199; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:10:49 -0500 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA04187; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:10:44 -0500 Received: from josh (slip166-72-219-216.ny.us.ibm.net [166.72.219.216]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA10334; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:09:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:07:34 -0500 () From: Joshua Hosseinof To: Moe Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPAd 700C battery In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970126093637.0069d208@mindspring.com> Message-Id: Sender: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You don't need to tell the computer, it should detect it by itself. The battery is fully charged when the Yellow battery light turns green, and the Green charging light to the right of it turns off. On Sun, 26 Jan 1997, Moe wrote: > I'm a new owner of a used Thinkpad 700C. > > Is there supposed to be a way of telling the computer that it has a freshly > charged battery? > > I know on an AST we had at the office, we ordered a new battery for it > because it wouldn't stay on, only to find out that the new battery did the > same thing. After plowing thru the manual on this somebody found out that > you had to tell the computer thaqt the battery was charged.?.? > > Is the 700C the same way? The battery shows 13.25v accross most of the > contacts. - to + > > Just thoght I'd ask the group before spending another $125 on another battery. > > Any help appreciated... > > > Thanks > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 01:28:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA123495687; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:28:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09191; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:27:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:23:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08882; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:23:06 -0500 Received: from wolfe.net (mail1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08875; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:23:02 -0500 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com (sea-ts2-p22.wolfenet.com [207.66.131.72]) by wolfe.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id WAA11039 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 22:24:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970129222244.006957d0@popserv.wolfenet.com> X-Sender: pele@popserv.wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 22:22:46 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: New 701c owner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello All: I recently purchased my first laptop, or what I guess some call a sub-notebook, a ThinkPad 701C. The seller said he bought it new about a year ago. Here's the ad I responded to: IBM 701c 24meg Ram 360meg HD 10.5" Active Matrix Color 14.4k modem/fax/voice (v.terbo 19.2k) Xircom Performance II Series 10BT pcmcia The seller was originally asking $1,400, and I got it for $1,100. The seller installed Win95. He provided software -- about 50 to 60 mb worth -- but it's all on a Ditto drive disk, and I don't have an Iomega zip drive. The ThinkPad appears to be in good shape, though I lack some of the original documentation. I have visited but that has limited info. I'm looking for more of a manual that tells, for example, about what the "fn" keys do. I joined this list as a resource, to reach out to those might be able to point me in another online direction for further documentation/info, to ask for help when I inevitably run into problems/questions, and for when I have something to contribute to help others. Here's an issue I'm confronting now: In order to be able to restore the O/S in case the registry gets corrupted, and to load other software, I'm considering buying an external CD-Rom drive, probably a parallel port job to keep costs down. Any suggestions on good buys and/or brands that or more or less compatible with the 701C? Is there a better alternative to what I'm considering? Any general maintenance tips? Thanks. -- _ ____ ___ / / ___ / __ \/ _ \ / / / _ \ / /_/ / __// / / __/ / .___/\___//_/ \___/ /_/ Peter Lewis pele@wolfenet.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 01:37:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA124906216; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:36:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09947; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:36:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:32:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09636; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:32:08 -0500 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09603; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:31:53 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA01423; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:31:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:31:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970129225507_881236136@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: tomf@conic.lmco.com Subject: Nuw Upgrade Pricing Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu All, Please forgive me for intruding, but we ahve just come out with some incredible pricing for all IBM systems. I hardly believe it myself, it is so good. There are CPU upgrades to Pentium class processors and Hard Drive upgrades through 2.1gb in complete kit form at much lower than standard kit pricing. External Hard Drive Shells for the old drives are also available. The HDD Caddies for the TP701, TP755, and TP760 are available at new lower prices. All the systems that need HDD Caddies are available in both kit and empty Caddy forms. Please contact me if you are interested in receiving our current upgrade catalog for your paticular system. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: Caddy for TP760? Date: 97-01-20 18:48:56 EST From: tomf@conic.lmco.com (Tom Franklin) Reply-to: tomf@conic.lmco.com To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Some time ago there was talk of someone selling caddys for a TP760 drive bay. I'm thinking about buying a Toshiba 1.3 GB drive (12mm thick) and I wonder if anybody is manufacturing these enclosures for a reasonable price. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 03:48:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA145504114; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 03:48:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19874; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 03:47:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 03:37:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18661; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 03:37:38 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@[207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15195; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 02:50:55 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id CAA09891; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 02:54:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 02:54:49 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: Peter Lewis Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New 701c owner In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970129222244.006957d0@popserv.wolfenet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wednesday, 29th January 1997, Peter Lewis wrote: > Here's an issue I'm confronting now: In order to be able to restore the > O/S in case the registry gets corrupted, and to load other software, I'm > considering buying an external CD-Rom drive, probably a parallel port job > to keep costs down. Any suggestions on good buys and/or brands that or > more or less compatible with the 701C? Is there a better alternative to > what I'm considering? I have the Disctec RoadRunner 4X parallel port CDROM drive (they make an 8X now); if you get the 701C preload CD, it happens to be one of the drives supported on the preload diskette image to be found on the IBM Web site. The RoadRunner also has OS/2 support, if that's your cup of tea. I think that PC Warehouse still sells the 4X, along with the 8X. Regards, Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 04:35:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA152186932; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 04:35:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15289; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 02:51:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 02:50:59 -0500 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15201; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 02:50:58 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@[207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15195; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 02:50:55 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id CAA09891; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 02:54:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 02:54:49 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: Peter Lewis Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New 701c owner In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970129222244.006957d0@popserv.wolfenet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wednesday, 29th January 1997, Peter Lewis wrote: > Here's an issue I'm confronting now: In order to be able to restore the > O/S in case the registry gets corrupted, and to load other software, I'm > considering buying an external CD-Rom drive, probably a parallel port job > to keep costs down. Any suggestions on good buys and/or brands that or > more or less compatible with the 701C? Is there a better alternative to > what I'm considering? I have the Disctec RoadRunner 4X parallel port CDROM drive (they make an 8X now); if you get the 701C preload CD, it happens to be one of the drives supported on the preload diskette image to be found on the IBM Web site. The RoadRunner also has OS/2 support, if that's your cup of tea. I think that PC Warehouse still sells the 4X, along with the 8X. Regards, Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 12:41:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA234766116; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:41:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11404; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:40:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:33:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10806; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:33:53 -0500 Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10791; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:33:47 -0500 Received: from jim.dhs.com ([198.69.202.22]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.8.4/8.8.4/ler-0130-1016) with SMTP id LAA14334; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:33:34 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <32F0DBDE.6FBE@cyberramp.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:35:26 -0600 From: Jim X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: jmcghee@cyberramp.net Subject: 760L ultrabay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I just bought an UltraBay from Sigma Data. It is very nice and comes with a padded carrying case, but I'm having one problem. When I put a hard drive in it (making it drive 2) Win95 sees it and it works fine, but I can no longer use my pcmcia modems (usr sportster and Noteworthy 14.4). It also turns off my serial and parallel ports. Once I remove the second hard drive from the UltraBay and reboot, I can use either modem and I can turn the serial and parallel ports back on. I sounds like a irq conflict, but nothing I see indicates that the second hard drive has its own irq. Why should it? Thanks for your help Jim McGhee From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 15:50:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA288787434; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:50:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00242; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:48:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:41:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29335; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:41:24 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29317; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:41:05 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA28399; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:40:32 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199701302040.PAA28399@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: 760L ultrabay To: jmcghee@cyberramp.net (Jim) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:40:32 -0500 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, jmcghee@cyberramp.net In-Reply-To: <32F0DBDE.6FBE@cyberramp.net> from "Jim" at Jan 30, 97 11:35:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Once I remove the second hard drive from the UltraBay and reboot, I can > use either modem and I can turn the serial and parallel ports back on. > > I sounds like a irq conflict, but nothing I see indicates that the > second hard drive has its own irq. Why should it? It does. The UltraBay uses a second IDE controller, commonly strapped to IRQ 15 (the primary is usually at IRQ 14). Thus, when your ThinkPad has two hard drives inside it, both drives are masters on the primary and secondary IDE controllers The reason for this is probably historical: I suspect that the slave position on the primary controller is allocated to the IDE drive in the optional docking stations, which predate the UltraBay in the 760 line. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 16:13:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA013818795; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:13:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02724; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:10:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:06:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02218; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:06:30 -0500 Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02205; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:06:25 -0500 Received: from pentium-166 (borg.mindspring.com [204.180.128.14]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA79102; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:05:51 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970130210554.0069f2f0@atl.mindspring.com> X-Sender: rchalk@atl.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:05:54 -0500 To: Tim Tyhurst From: Richard Chalk Subject: Re: 760L ultrabay Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The idea of using two controllers, and having each drive set up as primary, means that you can interchange drives between the main and ultrabay without changing ID jumpers, as well. Richard At 03:40 PM 1/30/97 -0500, you wrote: >> Once I remove the second hard drive from the UltraBay and reboot, I can >> use either modem and I can turn the serial and parallel ports back on. >> >> I sounds like a irq conflict, but nothing I see indicates that the >> second hard drive has its own irq. Why should it? > >It does. The UltraBay uses a second IDE controller, commonly strapped >to IRQ 15 (the primary is usually at IRQ 14). Thus, when your ThinkPad >has two hard drives inside it, both drives are masters on the primary >and secondary IDE controllers > >The reason for this is probably historical: I suspect that the slave >position on the primary controller is allocated to the IDE drive in >the optional docking stations, which predate the UltraBay in the 760 line. > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 16:17:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA024179056; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:17:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03358; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:16:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:12:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02853; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:12:53 -0500 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02847; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:12:46 -0500 Received: from CLAUDIA ([129.126.232.4]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA11296 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:10:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199701302110.AA11296@kodakr.kodak.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:19:00 -0500 From: "King, Randall" Subject: Re: 760L ultrabay To: Jim , Tim Tyhurst Cc: thinkpad X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Another little piece to the puzzle. The PCMCIA hardware also uses IRQ 15. Not the cards, but the hardware for the slots is on IRQ15. So if 15 is being used as IDE controller #2, there must be some way to change one of the devices to another IRQ. That conflict would explain the why your cards don't work. RK ---------- >From: Tim Tyhurst >To: Jim >Cc: thinkpad; jmcghee >Subject: Re: 760L ultrabay >Date: Thursday, January 30, 1997 3:40PM > >> Once I remove the second hard drive from the UltraBay and reboot, I can >> use either modem and I can turn the serial and parallel ports back on. >> >> I sounds like a irq conflict, but nothing I see indicates that the >> second hard drive has its own irq. Why should it? > >It does. The UltraBay uses a second IDE controller, commonly strapped >to IRQ 15 (the primary is usually at IRQ 14). Thus, when your ThinkPad >has two hard drives inside it, both drives are masters on the primary >and secondary IDE controllers > >The reason for this is probably historical: I suspect that the slave >position on the primary controller is allocated to the IDE drive in >the optional docking stations, which predate the UltraBay in the 760 line. > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 16:22:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA028359321; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:22:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04034; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:20:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:16:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03240; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:16:13 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03230; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:16:05 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA29304; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:15:08 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199701302115.QAA29304@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: 760L ultrabay To: rchalk@atl.mindspring.com (Richard Chalk) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:15:07 -0500 (EST) Cc: tim@excelsior.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19970130210554.0069f2f0@atl.mindspring.com> from "Richard Chalk" at Jan 30, 97 04:05:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > The idea of using two controllers, and having each drive set up as primary, > means that you can interchange drives between the main and ultrabay without > changing ID jumpers, as well. True, although I suspect that this is a happy accident rather than design. As a semi-related side observation, I have an IBM-made OEM drive that came out of an Apple Powerbook that works just fine in my 760C's main drive bay, but is completely invisible to the UltraBay. I've used other IBM OEM drives in the UltraBay without any problem. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 21:14:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA134666846; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:14:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02023; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:12:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:07:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01549; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:07:17 -0500 Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (0@redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01543; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:07:14 -0500 Received: from tc6-3.tc.nd.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id VAA28773; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:07:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701310207.VAA28773@redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: "Gabriel Ash" To: "Thinkpad User Group" Cc: "thinkpad" Date: Thu, 30 Jan 97 21:07:48 Reply-To: "Gabriel Ash" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Gabriel Ash's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: port replicator malfunction Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi My port replicator (I hope that's the right name: the black rectangular that clicks into the back of my 701 and has power/video/serial/parallel etc. ports) is causing the system to halt, often without any recovery except reboot (even Alt-CTRL-DEL doesn't help. visual inspection shows damage to the plastiv part of the connector - a few of the holes seem worn. I have the computer for about a year, and the normal insertion of the multiport requires pressing it with some force. I think it is not my fault, and I deserve replacement, before I contact IBM, I would like to know what others think. Thanks for reading ------------- Gabriel Ash Notre-Dame ------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 21:20:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA135387212; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:20:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02854; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:19:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:15:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02269; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:15:01 -0500 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem099.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.99]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02190; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:14:43 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id SAA00454 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:11:42 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: root@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:06:14 -0800 (PST) From: Marauder To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Installed win95, no more suspend.... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a TP755CD and I installed win95 and my suspend stoped working. Basicly it blanks the screen and spins down the hard drive, but then sits inactive (I can't reive it). The only way to get out of this is to pull the batery and then the AC plug (Power switch doesn't work either). Same thing happens weather I use the fn-f4, suspend button on the fuel guage, or the suspend from win95. I know that the machine will suspend because I can suspend in linux using the apmd tools (apm -s). Help? Help! -Mike -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 21:25:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA136587528; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:25:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03417; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:24:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:20:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03041; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:20:48 -0500 Received: from ns.interserf.net (ns.interserf.net [205.244.8.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA03028; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:20:43 -0500 Received: from serfer10.interserf.net (serfer10.interserf.net [205.244.8.29]) by ns.interserf.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA24676 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:21:22 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970131022127.2a2f5dae@mail.interserf.net> X-Sender: vicgonzlez@mail.interserf.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:21:27 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Vic Gonzalez Subject: #1.IR Port#2.W95 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all - #1. Is anyone out there using the IR port on the 701C? I'd like to use mine, but I just want to gauge the frustration factor. Any special drivers or patches? #2. I'm using win3.1 but soon switching to Win95(I know.....I've been a chicken). Are there any 701C service packs or special 701C release of W95? Thanks in advance -Vic Gonzalez -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzLrCf8AAAEEANEL1//KVcF04uwigiWqAC/Pnl73jMHB2fzDggYbmvfRvzLZ 1f37qdHcvbIAcEyduKCMAcg279Lo+Xts79w2D07j8c+F0tGOuNnx2+ee6nE6cbT+ twV1+eqBvnribc8hBkfxKF11wZW3zfUX/wKRfWB0Jj/r9k8Z4ykzcunu+3e5AAUR tC1WaWN0b3IgTS4gR29uemFsZXogPHZpY2dvbnpsZXpAaW50ZXJzZXJmLm5ldD4= =bebi -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 23:09:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA191923796; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:09:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13245; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:09:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:04:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12730; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:04:42 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12719; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:04:38 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-5 #9830) id <01IEU5THKX008WXHDM@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:04:25 MST Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:56:22 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: THINKPAD 755 CX In-Reply-To: "Message dated Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:16:34 -0800" <32EEEB42.6CBC@pacbell.net> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IEU6EJLZCC8WXHDM@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > It is however the lower end of the two 755CX > models that were in production, and was designed to have its DSP sound > chip as a user upgrade. Does anyone have any experience with this? Check http://direct.boulder.ibm.com/us/parts/thinkpad/tpad755e.htm - item 36 there is a DSP card assembly (85G1140) for a mere US$343.00. This is presumably just the part, which you'd have to either install yourself or have done by IBM or someone who knows how to do it. I imagine you can call IBM and get a quote for that. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 23:31:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA194875074; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:31:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15481; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:30:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:25:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14766; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:25:34 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14696; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:25:25 -0500 Received: from user-37kb987.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb987.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.165.7]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA55822; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:25:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199701310425.XAA55822@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Marauder" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 30 Jan 97 22:01:58 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Installed win95, no more suspend.... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Did you upgrade the BIOS before upgrading to win95. If that was upograded BEFORE installing win95, then go to device mgr->system devices->APM & enable force apm 1.0 mode. On Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:06:14 -0800 (PST), Marauder wrote: >I have a TP755CD and I installed win95 and my suspend stoped working. Basicly >it blanks the screen and spins down the hard drive, but then sits inactive >(I can't reive it). The only way to get out of this is to pull the batery >and then the AC plug (Power switch doesn't work either). Same thing happens >weather I use the fn-f4, suspend button on the fuel guage, or the suspend >from win95. I know that the machine will suspend because I can suspend in >linux using the apmd tools (apm -s). > >Help? >Help! > >-Mike >-- >mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu >mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu >http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Jan 30 23:34:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA195395249; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:34:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15986; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:33:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:29:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15343; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:29:33 -0500 Received: from enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15337; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:29:28 -0500 Received: (qmail 25963 invoked from network); 31 Jan 1997 04:29:19 -0000 Received: from baphomet-43.d.enteract.com (207.229.148.43) by babel.enteract.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 1997 04:29:19 -0000 From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: #1.IR Port#2.W95 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 04:28:55 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32f27430.1008476@smtp.enteract.com> References: <1.5.4.16.19970131022127.2a2f5dae@mail.interserf.net> In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19970131022127.2a2f5dae@mail.interserf.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu These are related, for me: I never got the infrared to work while using TranXit and Windows 3.11, and have had no problem getting it up and running with Windows95 after getting the IRDA driver upgrade from their site (Microsoft's, that is). = My 701 is communicating just fine with my new Kiwi 680 (yes, I'll be leaving the list soon, since I'll soon no longer be a 701 or other Thinkpad owner :-( ) Go for the upgrade, though remember what folks have said about TPs not hibernating with OSR2! (I'm safe, the Kiwi doesn't hibernate anyway!) epbrown On Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:21:27 -0500, you wrote: =BBHi all - =BB #1. Is anyone out there using the IR port on the 701C? I'd like to= use =BBmine, but I just want to gauge the frustration factor. Any special = drivers =BBor patches? =20 =BB #2. I'm using win3.1 but soon switching to Win95(I know.....I've = been a =BBchicken). Are there any 701C service packs or special 701C release of= W95? =BB =BBThanks in advance =BB-Vic Gonzalez =BB =BB-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- =BBVersion: 2.6.2 =BB =BBmQCNAzLrCf8AAAEEANEL1//KVcF04uwigiWqAC/Pnl73jMHB2fzDggYbmvfRvzLZ =BB1f37qdHcvbIAcEyduKCMAcg279Lo+Xts79w2D07j8c+F0tGOuNnx2+ee6nE6cbT+ =BBtwV1+eqBvnribc8hBkfxKF11wZW3zfUX/wKRfWB0Jj/r9k8Z4ykzcunu+3e5AAUR =BBtC1WaWN0b3IgTS4gR29uemFsZXogPHZpY2dvbnpsZXpAaW50ZXJzZXJmLm5ldD4=3D =BB=3Dbebi =BB-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- =BB =BB =BB =BB epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central, home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 31 00:42:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA206979368; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:42:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15940; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:33:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:28:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15272; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:28:33 -0500 Received: from mule1.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15266; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:28:29 -0500 Received: from user-37kb987.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb987.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.165.7]) by mule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA82874; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:28:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199701310428.XAA82874@mule1.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Gabriel Ash" , "Thinkpad User Group" Cc: "thinkpad" Date: Thu, 30 Jan 97 23:28:21 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: port replicator malfunction Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Call IBM & they will replace the Multiport2, expect a wait of a few weeks for a replacement. On Thu, 30 Jan 97 21:07:48, Gabriel Ash wrote: >Hi > >My port replicator (I hope that's the right name: the black rectangular that clicks >into the back of my 701 and has power/video/serial/parallel etc. ports) is causing >the system to halt, often without any recovery except reboot (even Alt-CTRL-DEL >doesn't help. visual inspection shows damage to the plastiv part of the connector >- a few of the holes seem worn. I have the computer for about a year, and the normal >insertion of the multiport requires pressing it with some force. I think it is not my fault, and I >deserve replacement, before I contact IBM, I would like to know what others think. > >Thanks for reading >------------- >Gabriel Ash >Notre-Dame >------------- > > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. 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Callis kcc@westworld.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ When it Absolutely, Positively, has to be Destroyed Overnight! 1-800-MARINES -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzAKUecAAAEEAMOBDynbRx1s7HYEMH5lUYwJZXIpKfGk/Xc2fXud0XzkUc2r HSj0UKT4yPFkAZdAH4zbz4ITebvFGpaolDKTw0Zi/IoRv+7UvE1AO84awWql5Mo+ y2fSnWloYnipcDgf/6X3FeczxKvTrLeeU791Xbq7u9cu/yHQqstS0yjeF0YRAAUR tCBLaW0gQy4gQ2FsbGlzIDxrY2NAcHJpbWVuZXQuY29tPokAlQMFEDDATbrLUtMo 3hdGEQEB2ysD/30R48CkGj9vuNvwfdKg8G1bF3EdOh59G6FZeoZE5Y0pCk73zsdw KGXIa8CQ+Lk2D7iid5V8FLf13lJlNleJKDWzEgq3AZdlOSPjwX8jvJ39irW2bzfW wY0drXA5kc+9bZzDs5nRrdA6PLiAEbxkbMW2GhD3f/I6ES51V0CHqQCH =It2E -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 31 09:09:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA283509794; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:09:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14316; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:08:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:03:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13574; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:03:29 -0500 Received: from mhv.net (root@spice.mhv.net [199.0.0.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13559; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:03:26 -0500 Received: from taifun.octintl.com (yce@nb291-01.warwick.net [204.255.29.11]) by mhv.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00393; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:03:19 -0500 Received: (from yce@localhost) by taifun.octintl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA00181; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 08:59:42 -0500 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 08:59:42 -0500 From: yves@mhv.net Message-Id: <199701311359.IAA00181@taifun.octintl.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: THINKPAD 755 CX In-Reply-To: <01IEU6EJLZCC8WXHDM@Opus1.COM> References: <32EEEB42.6CBC@pacbell.net> <01IEU6EJLZCC8WXHDM@Opus1.COM> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu billy@mix.com writes: > > It is however the lower end of the two 755CX > > models that were in production, and was designed to have its DSP sound > > chip as a user upgrade. Does anyone have any experience with this? > > Check http://direct.boulder.ibm.com/us/parts/thinkpad/tpad755e.htm - > item 36 there is a DSP card assembly (85G1140) for a mere US$343.00. > This is presumably just the part, which you'd have to either install > yourself or have done by IBM or someone who knows how to do it. I > imagine you can call IBM and get a quote for that. > > Billy Y.. > I have the upper end 755cx and as far as I remember, you can't upgrade internally... You need a special module that hangs off the telco jack (or whatever port the lower end 755cx has) on the left side. Also, I think the DSP mod has the SVGA display so there might be some internal differences that would preclude the internal upgrade. Then again, this is from memory and subject to error. -yce -- Yves-Chandler Eynard yves@mhv.net yves@warwick.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 31 12:36:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA024972197; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:36:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09835; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:32:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:24:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08652; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:24:28 -0500 Received: from srv.enet.it (root@[195.120.246.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08645; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:24:14 -0500 Received: from pentium-133 (async9.enet.it [195.120.246.39]) by srv.enet.it (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA28238 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:32:57 +0100 Message-Id: <199701311732.SAA28238@srv.enet.it> From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Volont=E8_Alessio?=" To: Subject: Problem whit hard disk Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:23:07 +0100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have an IBM Think Pad 750C whit 486 dx/2 66Mhz processor, 12 Mb of Ram memory, 327 Mb on Hard Disk and Windows 95. The problem is: when I turned off the computer on Hard Disk there were 15Mb of free space, but when I turned on the system, on hard disk there were only 2 Mb of free space. And, whitout execute any program or register nothing, free space changes continuously form 5 Mb to 190 Kb. I try to cancel 7 Mb from hard disk, but the space is return again to 3 Mb, and it change continuosly again. Any body can help me ? Please, send me the answer by E-mail, at Alex@enet.it Thankyou. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 31 12:54:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA028433252; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:54:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12085; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:48:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:43:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11450; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:43:27 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11441; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:43:21 -0500 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA32628; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:48:28 -0700 Message-Id: <32F22E97.1065@wwsi.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:40:39 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist X-Sender: Steve Hultquist (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volont=E8?= Alessio Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Problem whit hard disk X-Priority: Normal References: <199701311732.SAA28238@srv.enet.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Volont=E8 Alessio wrote: > The problem is: when I turned off the computer on Hard Disk there were = 15Mb > of free space, but when I turned on the system, on hard disk there were > only 2 Mb of free space. > And, whitout execute any program or register nothing, free space change= s > continuously form 5 Mb to 190 Kb. > I try to cancel 7 Mb from hard disk, but the space is return again to 3= Mb, > and it change continuosly again. It is likely a virtual memory issue. You should change the virtual=20 memory to a specific amount by going into Control Panel | System |=20 Performance | Virtual Memory and specifying your own settings and making=20 the minimum and maximum the same. The best number for you is likely to=20 be around 20MB. ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Electronic Business Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 31 15:45:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA068943537; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:45:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00829; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:42:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:36:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29985; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:36:54 -0500 Received: from julian.uwo.ca (julian.uwo.ca [129.100.2.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29968; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:36:47 -0500 Received: from localhost by panther.uwo.ca with SMTP id PAA09939; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:36:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:36:40 -0500 (EST) From: "J. Starkey" X-Sender: jstarkey@panther.uwo.ca To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Installing ZIP parallel port drive on TP701cs - How? In-Reply-To: <199701311732.SAA28238@srv.enet.it> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What is the "trick" to installing a ZIP parallel port drive to a ThinkPad 701cs under Windows95? I can put the files from the installation diskette into a directory on the hard drive and install from that with the drive attached via the adapter to the ThinkPad. However, subsequently, with the ZIP drive attached to the parallel port on the Multiport port replicator no drive letter is found for the Zip drive when booting. I seem to remember some discussion of this problem earlier on this group - I apologize if it is "old hat". John ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Starkey, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada N6A 3B7 tel: (519) 661 3185 fax: (519) 661 3198 e-mail: jstarkey@julian.uwo.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 31 23:27:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA015351224; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:27:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11885; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:26:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:21:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11269; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:21:01 -0500 Received: from megspo1.megsinet.net (megspo.megsinet.net [206.222.62.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11263; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:20:58 -0500 Received: from 225ohiomax2-102.megsinet.net ([208.133.75.230]) by megspo1.megsinet.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-11704) with SMTP id AAA179 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:21:30 -0600 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970130222053.0b577d28@megspo.megsinet.net> X-Sender: chessie@megspo.megsinet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) Subject: 701 modem tips please.... Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:21:30 -0600 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu greetings all- after a few tries to ezserve they seem to have finally fixed my 701c. Now, I can not find the internal 14.4 modem discussion that I saved about tweaking the internal modem's performance. Could someone please post or privatley email the synopsis or the command sting that was trown around? TIA Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- chessie@megsinet.net pantazis@uiuc.edu You can still see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 31 23:48:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA018352482; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:48:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14006; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:47:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:43:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13514; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:43:29 -0500 Received: from gosensgo (gosensgo.brit.ca [207.134.28.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13508; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:43:25 -0500 Received: from gosensgo (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gosensgo (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id XAA00504; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:46:52 -0500 Sender: root@gosensgo Message-Id: <32F2CABC.FC1611F@brit.ca> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:46:52 -0500 From: Trevor Boicey Organization: BRIT Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Pantazis , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 modem tips please.... References: <1.5.4.16.19970130222053.0b577d28@megspo.megsinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dennis Pantazis wrote: > Now, I can not find the internal 14.4 modem discussion that I saved about > tweaking the internal modem's performance. > > Could someone please post or privatley email the synopsis or the command > sting that was trown around? Please post info, I'd love to get more out of that modem. I get 19.2K connects with it because I have a courier on the other end. But sometimes I find the connection is flaky and drops on me. It seems to drop the first time I establish the network, but then I can FTP 10 meg files overnight without losing connection. -- .---------------------------------------Ottawa-Canada-GOSENSGO-----. / Trevor Boicey 1992 Celica GT 1975 MG Midget / `---- tboicey@brit.ca ------------------------------------------' From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Jan 31 23:58:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA020963101; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:58:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15180; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:57:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:54:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14750; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:53:56 -0500 Received: from usr08.primenet.com (root@usr08.primenet.com [206.165.5.108]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA14713; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:53:49 -0500 Received: from primenet.com (root@mailhost01.primenet.com [206.165.5.52]) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18603 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 21:53:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr07.primenet.com (bogrow@usr07.primenet.com [206.165.5.107]) by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA08072; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 21:53:40 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 20:53:40 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bogrow X-Sender: bogrow@usr07.primenet.com Reply-To: eeyore@eey.org To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 modem tips please.... In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19970130222053.0b577d28@megspo.megsinet.net> Message-Id: Organization: EEYOW!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, Dennis Pantazis wrote: > Now, I can not find the internal 14.4 modem discussion that I saved about > tweaking the internal modem's performance. > > Could someone please post or privatley email the synopsis or the command > sting that was trown around? Others of us have found the 701 modem flaky. I'd appreciate tips going to the list.