From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 00:51:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA142543883; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 00:51:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21833; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 00:48:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 00:38:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21143; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 00:38:34 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21131; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 00:38:29 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-i-57.usc.edu [128.125.224.129]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id VAA11971; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 21:38:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970331213636.007530f4@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 21:39:42 -0800 To: John Kim From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: TP Crash Protection Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 05:59 PM 3/31/97 -0500, John Kim wrote: >floors without incident (the one which nearly killed it was onto >a tile surface - don't ask :). What I *do* worry about is a So I'm not the only one who takes his ThinkPad into the bathroom to "think"?! ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 05:34:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA260460888; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 05:34:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA17049; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 05:33:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 05:28:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA15080; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 05:28:16 -0500 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem070.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.70]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA14987; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 05:28:02 -0500 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id CAA00301; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 02:24:00 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 02:18:34 -0800 (PST) From: derelict To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-apps@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: TP755CD, linux, xf86quake Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was wondering if anyone has been able to get the xf86quake version to run on a thinkpad 755 or any other laptop with the WD90C24A video card. I have XFree86 3.2A. When I try to run it I get the following error: [derelict@pimplimp /usr/local/lib/quake]$ ./xf86quake Added packfile ./id1/pak0.pak (339 files) FindFile: can't find gfx/pop.lmp Playing shareware version. PackFile: ./id1/pak0.pak : gfx.wad Console initialized. UDP Initialized Exe: 22:32:43 Aug 4 1996 8.0 megabyte heap PackFile: ./id1/pak0.pak : gfx/palette.lmp PackFile: ./id1/pak0.pak : gfx/colormap.lmp video memory unprotecting VID: bank size = 32768 bytes VID: ram = 1024kb Error: Video card bank size (32768 bytes) too small for this res. VID_Shutdown video memory protecting video memory protecting [derelict@pimplimp /usr/local/lib/quake]$ This happens when I try to run as root also. Is my video card not capable of running it? Thanks, -Mike -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 08:53:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA039952823; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 08:53:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02334; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 08:52:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 08:48:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01496; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 08:48:21 -0500 Received: from PhoneLink.COM (fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM [193.195.138.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01394; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 08:48:00 -0500 Received: from freemuda.prod.PhoneLink.COM by fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM id aa29681; 1 Apr 97 14:46 BST Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 14:39:48 BST From: chaplin@emarkt.com Subject: Voice Recognition Software To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <010497144621000C.chaplin@emarkt.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone any experience of using voice recognition software on Thinkpads, particularly a 760 LD (P90, 16Mb RAM, Windows 95), such as IBM's Simply Speaking? I would appreciate any feedback so I can make an informed choice. Many thanks, Philip For file attachments please e-mail first. -- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 11:57:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA119433832; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 11:57:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20712; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 11:55:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 11:51:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20324; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 11:51:09 -0500 Received: from csu-e.csuohio.edu (csu-e.csuohio.edu [137.148.5.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20305; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 11:51:04 -0500 Received: from darkstar (root@portc20.async.csuohio.edu [137.148.59.30]) by csu-e.csuohio.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA01430; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 11:50:57 -0500 Sender: root@csu-e.csuohio.edu Message-Id: <33413CD8.1321D751@csu-e.csuohio.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 11:50:32 -0500 From: Mike Kondratov X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: derelict Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-apps@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: TP755CD, linux, xf86quake References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I don't have that problem but it just kicks me out of the game after about 2 min. Don't know why. derelict wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone has been able to get the xf86quake version to run > on a thinkpad 755 or any other laptop with the WD90C24A video card. I have > XFree86 3.2A. > > When I try to run it I get the following error: > > [derelict@pimplimp /usr/local/lib/quake]$ ./xf86quake > Added packfile ./id1/pak0.pak (339 files) > FindFile: can't find gfx/pop.lmp > Playing shareware version. > PackFile: ./id1/pak0.pak : gfx.wad > Console initialized. > UDP Initialized > Exe: 22:32:43 Aug 4 1996 > 8.0 megabyte heap > PackFile: ./id1/pak0.pak : gfx/palette.lmp > PackFile: ./id1/pak0.pak : gfx/colormap.lmp > video memory unprotecting > VID: bank size = 32768 bytes > VID: ram = 1024kb > Error: Video card bank size (32768 bytes) too small for this res. > VID_Shutdown > video memory protecting > video memory protecting > [derelict@pimplimp /usr/local/lib/quake]$ > > This happens when I try to run as root also. > Is my video card not capable of running it? > > Thanks, > -Mike > -- > mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu > mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu > http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 12:45:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA140186746; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 12:45:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25563; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 12:44:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 12:40:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25176; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 12:40:18 -0500 Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu (merle.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25143; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 12:40:04 -0500 Received: from Bill Berry ([129.105.76.45]) by merle.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA182346393; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 11:39:53 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970401113952.0069c330@merle.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: bberry@merle.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 11:39:52 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Berry Subject: More TP Crash protection Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi y'all. When I carry my 365XD around I use a Tumi computer brief, which has padding built into it which quite thin for a $250 bag. I also put the TP into an Eagle Creek padded computer insert so there are two layers of padding and moisture protection. Both Tumi and Eagle creek offer nice carrying cases for notebooks. I like the Tumi, 'cause it doen't look so much like a computer bag, though it is quite pricey. Knock on wood, no damage yet. Bill From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 14:54:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA197074456; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 14:54:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07574; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 14:52:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 14:48:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06867; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 14:48:14 -0500 Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06835; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 14:48:08 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA11408; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 14:47:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 14:47:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970401144625_637857740@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: chaplin@emarkt.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Voice Recognition Software Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am also contemplating using IBM Simply Speaking on my Thinkpad 365XD. I will be takinh my Thinkpad to school and was wondering if anyone knows if the voice recognition software could be used to develop a transcript of what teachers are saying when they give notes. My main concern is if the software will pick up the teacher's about 20 feet away. Does the 365XD have a microphone? John From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 15:34:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA214296892; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:34:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12646; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:34:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:31:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12318; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:31:23 -0500 Received: from goldilocks (goldilocks.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12267; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:31:11 -0500 Received: from ursa-minor (ursa-minor-home.lcs.mit.edu) by goldilocks (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA16288; Tue, 1 Apr 97 15:30:31 EST Sender: ilh@goldilocks.mit.edu Message-Id: <3341702D.55F40B65@sls.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 15:29:33 -0500 From: Lee Hetherington X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Disneyjazz@aol.com Cc: chaplain@emarkt.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Voice Recognition Software References: <970401144625_637857740@emout19.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu No way will that work for getting a transcript of your teacher's lecture. No way at all, and I work in the field of speech recognition. 1. Most of the commercially available systems are speaker-dependent. They require the specific speaker to train the system rehearsing a given set of sentences for maybe 1/2 hour or more. 2. The acoustic environment in a lecture is much, much worse than with a close-talking mic. There will be lots of background noise, reverberation etc. If you're buying a speech recognition system expecting this to work for lectures, you will be very disappointed. You're lucky if you can get these systems to work very well under perfect conditions. I also don't know if a 365 even has the necessary horsepower to run a recognizer (it might). -- Lee Hetherington, PhD. ilh@sls.lcs.mit.edu ^^^ Spoken Language Systems From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 16:30:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA230490208; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 16:30:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17917; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 16:28:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 16:24:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17424; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 16:24:48 -0500 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17414; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 16:24:42 -0500 Received: from cais.cais.com (rj@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/cais-andrew-jdf) with SMTP id QAA27703; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 16:24:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 16:24:25 -0500 (EST) From: rj To: Chris Alba Cc: "'ThinkPad E-mail Group'" Subject: Re: TP 760CD with a mind of it's own... In-Reply-To: <01BC3E3E.ABF3B020@localhost> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In all likely-hood it's doing system updates/maintenance, although an hour between occurrences seems a bit long. Other OSs, e.g., NT and UNIX, do this as well. On Tue, 1 Apr 1997, Chris Alba wrote: > I'm sure there's a simple answer to this, but I don't know it! > Every while, say once an hour, my TP760CD/W95 seems to have a fit! > The HDD icon on the LCD flashes, the HDD goes berserk, then the FDD does = the same. > I'ts like when I had the System Agent scheduled to defrag my HDD, but I w= as scared to use the PC when that was occurring, because of documented prob= lems with this, so I don't have System Agent installed any more. > Does anyone else get this? I would appreciate any advice/assistance with = this "feature". > Regards, > Chris=20 > cja@usa.net > =00=00 >=20 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 17:10:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA244332639; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 17:10:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22756; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 17:09:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 17:06:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22322; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 17:06:38 -0500 Received: from passnotes.share.org ([192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22312; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 17:06:33 -0500 From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05b4 (287.3 12-16-1996)) id 8625646C.0079A0BB ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 16:08:30 -0500 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: SHARE INC To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <8625646C.00799F50.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 16:06:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Voice Recognition Software Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu IBM's Simply Speaking is for speech recognition. Don't get that confused with voice recognition, which is a totally different thing. A P90 with 16MB is a little underpowered. It's really more a dictation thing because your words must be spoken distinctly with a slight pause between each word. They spec the software at being able to go at 70-100 wpm. So imagine yourself talking at about one or two words a second, max. DON'T expect to be able to capture casual or normal conversation,lectures,etc. But the IBM stuff is pretty good out of the box, and gets much better after a little training and over time as it learns the speaker's and environmental acoustic nuances. It's neat to play with, but frankly, i'd give the technology a few more years to mature. Voice navigation (e.g. in Warp 4) works very well too. Rich Chong chaplin@emarkt.com on 04-01-97 07:39:48 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: (bcc: Rich Chong/SHARE Inc) Subject: Voice Recognition Software Has anyone any experience of using voice recognition software on Thinkpads, particularly a 760 LD (P90, 16Mb RAM, Windows 95), such as IBM's Simply Speaking? I would appreciate any feedback so I can make an informed choice. Many thanks, Philip For file attachments please e-mail first. -- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 18:04:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA260045862; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:04:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28792; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:03:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 17:59:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28371; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 17:59:46 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28359; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 17:59:41 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA16035; Tue, 1 Apr 97 12:59:39 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA14943; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 13:00:33 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199704012300.NAA14943@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Voice Recognition Software To: Disneyjazz@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Apr 97 13:00:27 HST Cc: chaplin@emarkt.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <970401144625_637857740@emout19.mail.aol.com>; from "Disneyjazz@aol.com" at Apr 1, 97 2:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > will be takinh my Thinkpad to school and was wondering if anyone knows if the > voice recognition software could be used to develop a transcript of what > teachers are saying when they give notes. Don't forget that a teacher's lectures are his/her intellectual property; *no* recording device should be used without the instructor's explicit permission. When IBM (or anybody) makes a transcriber that can keep up with my lectures, I will be very very impressed! Long before then I expect to see portable supercomputers with full-sized screen and keyboard, which fold up to the size and weight of a cigarette pack:-) - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 18:16:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA263686600; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:16:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00701; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:16:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:13:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00338; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:13:35 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00327; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:13:31 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id PAA13596; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:13:29 -0800 Received: from hi-av2.cadence.com(158.140.128.32) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma859936408.013593; Tue Apr 1 15:13:28 1997 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (sj4a-14.cadence.com [158.140.31.24]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25381; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:10:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:10:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199704012310.PAA25381@mailhub.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) From: Don Perley Subject: Re: Voice Recognition Software Cc: Disneyjazz@aol.com, chaplin@emarkt.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:00 PM 4/1/97 HST, David Ross wrote: >Don't forget that a teacher's lectures are his/her intellectual >property; *no* recording device should be used without the >instructor's explicit permission. Pencils down students! perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 18:25:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA266157134; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:25:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01701; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:24:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:22:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01464; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:22:25 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01435; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:22:18 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA16151; Tue, 1 Apr 97 13:22:15 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA14959; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 13:23:09 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199704012323.NAA14959@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Voice Recognition Software To: perley@Cadence.COM (Don Perley) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 97 13:23:07 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, Disneyjazz@aol.com, chaplin@emarkt.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199704012310.PAA25381@mailhub.Cadence.COM>; from "Don Perley" at Apr 1, 97 3:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > >property; *no* recording device should be used without the > > Pencils down students! I guess I had that one coming, though of course one can argue whether pencil+paper constitute a device. In any event, my students have blanket permission from me to take notes, as long as they are not distributed outside the class. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 18:42:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA290798173; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:42:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03497; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:41:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:39:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03115; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:39:13 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03102; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:39:09 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA450051 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 23:38:56 GMT Received: from ts77.pcug.org.au(203.10.76.77) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaT2IDM2; Tue Apr 1 23:33:57 1997 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 09:36:16 +1100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Neil Mclean" Subject: Re: TP Crash Protection Message-Id: <859937776-0-nmclean@ibm.net> X-Mailer: IBM OS/2 Internet Mail Client Support for Lotus Notes X-Notes-Logo: StdNotesLtr34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <859937776-1-nmclean@ibm.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu rwhittle @ usa.net 01/04/97 15:39 to: thinkpad @ cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP Crash Protection >>floors without incident (the one which nearly killed it was onto >>a tile surface - don't ask :). What I *do* worry about is a >So I'm not the only one who takes his ThinkPad into >the bathroom to "think"?! hehehehe. Not by a long shot, Randy. :) I 'specially like the Warp4's voice operation on my ThinkPad for hands-free "meditating" in the bathroom. /**********************************/ /* Neil Mclean */ /* Canberra Australia */ /**********************************/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 18:49:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA293998551; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:49:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04211; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:48:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:44:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03668; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:44:35 -0500 Received: from emout03.mail.aol.com (emout03.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.94]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03656; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:44:27 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA05856; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:43:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:43:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970401184346_182039182@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP: Better Video Solution for 755CE/CX? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu We're running 755CE and 755CX machines in Dock Station 1 connected to NEC MultiSync XE17 (running at 1024x768) as a "portable" workstation. They each have 24->40Mb of RAM and are running Windoze95. We are running a very graphic intensive client/server application as well as Lotus Notes and a terminal emulator, and even with 40Mb, there is very slow video performance within the applications and when switching between applications (plus a lot of hard disk thrashing). IBM ThinkPad tech support told me these machines don't have video RAM. I'm considering removing the token ring cards from the dock station and using a PCMCIA token ring card and then bringing in some 2Mb Diamond SpeedStar64 video cards to put in the docking station. Has anyone else had this type of problem, and what was your solution? Any and all responses are greatly appreciated. Regards, Mike Pinter, Sr. Tenneco Automotive Lead Programmer/Analyst From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 18:59:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA006909177; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:59:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05179; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:58:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:55:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04862; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:55:17 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04827; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:55:08 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA594167; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 23:54:40 GMT Received: from ts77.pcug.org.au(203.10.76.77) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smawS8DM2; Tue Apr 1 23:53:03 1997 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 09:55:21 +1100 To: chaplin@emarkt.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Neil Mclean" Subject: Re: Voice Recognition Software Message-Id: <859938921-0-nmclean@ibm.net> X-Mailer: IBM OS/2 Internet Mail Client Support for Lotus Notes X-Notes-Logo: StdNotesLtr34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <859938921-1-nmclean@ibm.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu chaplin @ emarkt.com 02/04/97 00:39 To: thinkpad @ cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: Voice Recognition Software >Has anyone any experience of using voice recognition >software on Thinkpads, particularly a 760 LD (P90, >16Mb RAM, Windows 95), such as IBM's Simply Speaking? >I would appreciate any feedback so I can make an informed choice. I have a 760CD. (P90, 32mb, Warp4). OS/2 Warp4 comes with IBM's VoiceType product free. I believe you can buy a win95 version for about $500 aussie dollars. I use VoiceType daily. It makes voice control of the entire OS/2 system (voice navigation commands) easy. You can even use voice navigation commands on programs not designed for voice operation, as well as non-OS/2 programs. I also use VoiceType daily for voice dictation. Dictating letters, reports, etc. I can dictate directly to appropriate applications, or via a dictation window to almost any other application. The only complication I found is that the automatic noise cancelling headset microphone (also supplied free with OS/2 Warp) for use with VoiceType would not work with a ThinkPad. For whatever reason IBM has designed the ThinkPad such that an external microphone cannot draw its power from the ThinkPad via tha mic.jack. You need to buy an external battery box for the microphone so it will work properly. If you don't already have a microphone try to buy one that doesn't need to draw power from the microphone jack, or one with a separate power supply (battery box or whatever). Before I bought an appropriate headset I just used the ThinkPad's built-in microphone. It is not designed for dictation work (not unidirectional, or active noise cancelling) but it worked pretty well in a quiet environment. Overall, I am more than pleased with my system running IBM's OS/2 version of voicetype on my OS/2 Warp4 system. YMMV - In fact it must. /**********************************/ /* Neil Mclean */ /* Canberra Australia */ /**********************************/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 21:10:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA251067042; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 21:10:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08109; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 19:49:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 19:26:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07159; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 19:26:03 -0500 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07136; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 19:25:45 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id AAA480203; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 00:25:19 GMT Received: from ts108.pcug.org.au(203.10.76.108) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaO3MDFW; Wed Apr 2 00:21:53 1997 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 10:24:11 +1100 To: Disneyjazz@aol.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Neil Mclean" Subject: Re: Voice Recognition Software Message-Id: <859940651-0-nmclean@ibm.net> X-Mailer: IBM OS/2 Internet Mail Client Support for Lotus Notes X-Notes-Logo: StdNotesLtr34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <859940651-1-nmclean@ibm.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Disneyjazz @ aol.com 02/04/97 05:47 To: chaplin @ emarkt.com, thinkpad @ cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: Re: Voice Recognition Software >I am also contemplating using IBM Simply Speaking >on my Thinkpad 365XD. I will be takinh my Thinkpad >to school and was wondering if anyone knows if the >voice recognition software could be used to develop >a transcript of what teachers are saying when they >give notes. I wouldn't think so. :) >My main concern is if the software will pick up the >teacher's about 20 feet away. Does the 365XD have a microphone? A very fine concern that one is too. :) If you can persuade your lecturers to wear a unidirectional active noise cancelling microphone and speak their words clearly and with a very brief pause between every word then you might be in with a chance to get voice recognition working. If you get that far you might try to persuade your lecturers to spend the hours necessary to give your voice recognition software a good sample of their speech so as to create a personalised voice model. (I don't know about "Simply Speaking", I use IBM's VoiceType). /**********************************/ /* Neil Mclean */ /* Canberra Australia */ /**********************************/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 1 21:17:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA254427441; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 21:17:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08107; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 19:49:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 1 Apr 1997 19:24:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06966; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 19:24:19 -0500 Received: from mail.toronto.istar.net (Mail.Toronto.iSTAR.net [204.191.136.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06950; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 19:24:01 -0500 Received: from inforamp.net (InfoRamp.net [204.191.136.8]) by mail.toronto.istar.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA01793 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 19:23:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ts28-10.tor.iSTAR.ca (ts5-12.tor.iSTAR.ca [204.191.151.171]) by inforamp.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA24307 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 20:23:19 -0400 (AST) Message-Id: <199704020023.UAA24307@inforamp.net> X-Sender: valliant@inforamp.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 19:22:16 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: valliant@micomtech.com (Hugh Valliant) Subject: Upgrading/Cloning Hard drives Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greeting Fellow ThinkPaders.... Now it is my turn to share with you. I trust this will be useful to all. I have gotten so much from this list that now I am pleased to reciprocate. I have now, successfully, transferred a Win95 system from a "smaller" hard drive to a 2.1 GB hard drive for the 750, 755 and 760 series of ThinkPads. As the 750s and 755s are not capable of having 2 hard drives in 1 case, it poses challenging problems. Long file names also come into play. 760s with their 2 hard drive capability, pose no problems that are not faced with a "stand-alone" system. You set up a C: and D: drives and use XCOPY from a DOS window with specific switch settings. I would be pleased to e-mail anyone who would like my detailed instructions for the 755s and 750s. Or the 760s for that matter. Hugh ============================ MI-COM Technology Computer Solutions for Small Business Helping you access and travel the Information Highway Hugh A. Valliant Bus. (416) 726-5355 Fax. (416) 699-3847 Internet valliant@micomtech.com http://www.micomtech.com/~valliant/ ============================= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 00:19:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA116248352; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 00:19:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00804; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 00:18:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 00:15:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00461; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 00:15:23 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00436; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 00:15:17 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-f-13.usc.edu [128.125.223.85]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id VAA06562; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 21:14:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970401210600.0077719c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 21:16:24 -0800 To: "Neil Mclean" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Voice Recognition Software Cc: Disneyjazz@aol.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As long as we're talking about Voice Recognition, does anybody have anything to say about the Kurzweil Voice products I've seen in catalogs? ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 01:24:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA144262282; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 01:24:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05200; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 01:24:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 01:19:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04841; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 01:18:59 -0500 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04830; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 01:18:54 -0500 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA11089; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 01:12:56 -0500 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199704020612.BAA11089@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: Voice Recognition Software In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970401210600.0077719c@scf.usc.edu> from Randy Whittle at "Apr 1, 97 09:16:24 pm" To: rwhittle@usa.net (Randy Whittle) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 01:12:56 -0500 (EST) Cc: nmclean@ibm.net, Disneyjazz@aol.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > As long as we're talking about Voice Recognition, does anybody have > anything to say about the Kurzweil Voice products I've seen in catalogs? I was asked to evaluate the Kurzweil Voice for Windows recently, and it did not perform well at all for our needs. The software does, however, support voice profiles and training, which significantly improves the recognition. On a P120, recognition was prompt, although the fail rate for untrained words was extremely high (around 90%) using a full dictionary. This rate decreased to about 5% using a custom dictionary containing 50 trained words. Furthermore, this recognition rate only applied when the voice input was clear and distinct, separating each word by at least half a second. If you plan to use Kurzweil to voice-drive your computer (such as manipulating windows, starting and closing apps, etc), it works fairly well. However, I would not recommend it for dictation, unless you have (literally) weeks to spend on properly training the words in the dictionary. One last deficiency of Kurzweil is that it does not allow you to begin with a 0 word dictionary. The interface for adding and removing words is oriented only towards modifying, on a word by word basis, an existing dictionary. Our project group opted to go with Entropic's customizable voice recognition software. We have someone working on/with it, and the results are very good. The Entropic software is extremely powerful and is designed for dictation. With proper training, it correctly recognizes normal, but clearly pronounced, speech and is suitable for dictation. Entropic's softwarer also costs an arm and TWO legs. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@vec.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu world rejoiced. Try to live your life Virtual Endoscopy Center so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 08:53:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA028369234; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 08:53:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12831; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 08:53:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 08:45:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11738; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 08:45:36 -0500 Received: from mercury.ukc.ac.uk (mercury.ukc.ac.uk [129.12.21.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11720; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 08:45:31 -0500 Received: from stork.ukc.ac.uk by mercury.ukc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:45:02 +0100 Received: from merlin.ukc.ac.uk by stork.ukc.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/UKC-2.14) id OAA20095; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:45:00 +0100 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:45:00 +0100 (BST) From: "A.F.Hewlett" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP755c video and Win95 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone got the video card on a TP755c to work in any 256 color modes in Windows 95? I'm fairly sure it has enough memory as I can get it to run X in 256 color modes but Win95 refuses - either on the TFT screen or the external monitor. Help appreciated, Angus From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 11:59:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA139740358; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 11:59:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00637; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 11:58:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 11:54:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00167; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 11:54:18 -0500 Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il (chava.netmedia.net.il [192.115.153.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00149; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 11:54:09 -0500 Received: from Firefly.192.116.131.65 ([192.116.131.93]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA18849 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 19:53:57 +0200 (IST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970402164800.006d7a0c@mail.netmedia.net.il> X-Sender: wine@mail.netmedia.net.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 19:48:00 +0300 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Wine Subject: Internet Connection Phone and TP760!!! Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm having trouble getting my TP760CD running Windows 95 to send audio properly with Microsoft Netmeeting 2.0 beta 4. Sometimes mmtask crashes and sometimes it's completely quiet and sometimes it works but at very low microphone sensitivity. The remote application control is very neat. Does anyone have this working? --David >Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:15:15 -0700 >From: Bob Angell >Reply-To: aimsllc@ibm.net >Organization: Applied Information & Management Systems >To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >CC: thinkpads@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Internet Connection Phone and TP760!!! >Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > >Anyone here on the list been able to get the Internet Connection >Phone or CoolTalkz to work under the TP760 (E/ED/EL/etc)? Any >help setting up the mwave modem would be appreciated. > >-Bob- >-- > 1 Bob Angell, Principal - Sys. Engineer/Author/Consultant > 2 Applied Info & Mgnt Sys, 1238 Fenway Ave., SLC, UT 84102 > 3 v: 801-583-8544 e: aimsllc@ibm.net / bangell@cs.utah.edu > 4 -------------------------------------------------------- > 5 Applied Info & Mngmnt Systems has services as follows: > 6 Intra/Internet, Notes, Multiplatform integration > 7 Networking (TCPIP,etc), Custom (AWK-PERL-C-Visualizer), > 8 Database dsgn/dev. (DB2-SQLserver-Oracle-etc.), Modeling > 9 OS's (Win95;Warp/NT Server; AIX / HP-UX / SunOS; OS/400) >10 -------------------------------------------------------- >11 "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham sand- >12 wich, they would both be with us today!" > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 13:11:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA179554695; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:11:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05574; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 12:40:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 12:36:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05112; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 12:36:15 -0500 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05092; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 12:36:11 -0500 Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu (actually rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 19:33:39 +0200 Received: by rheo-port.pse.umass.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BC3F9C.AEC93040@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu>; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 19:33:03 +0200 Message-Id: <01BC3F9C.AEC93040@rheo-port.pse.umass.edu> From: Axel Hartmann To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Sit 'n' Thinkpad Connectivity Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 12:26:53 +0200 Encoding: 30 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi List, On 1. April 1997 07:39, Randy Whittle[SMTP:rwhittle@usa.net] wrote: >At 05:59 PM 3/31/97 -0500, John Kim wrote: >>floors without incident (the one which nearly killed it was onto >>a tile surface - don't ask :). What I *do* worry about is a > > So I'm not the only one who takes his ThinkPad into the >bathroom to "think"?! Are wetroom approved IR-Ports available for such places and how does one explain them to non-geeks? I also find most fixtures are too much rounded and slippery, and I hate balancing a TP (ThinkPad, not ToiletPaper) on the edge of a sink. "Honey, the Loo-LAN is down..." axel ...................................................................... Axel Hartmann . Paper : Blumenstr. 15; 76133 Karlsruhe; Germany . Voice : [0|xx49] 721 - 27115 . E-Mail : Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . ...................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 13:21:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA183345270; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:21:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08535; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:19:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:14:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08021; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:14:26 -0500 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07992; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:14:17 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id NAA08406 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:13:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:13:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970402131341_-1537224738@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Insurance and Delivery Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi. Has anyone ordered a Thinkpad from IBM Direct? If so, do you remember how long it took? What shipping company do they use? Will they leave it at the door, or must you sign for it? Also: Does anyone have their laptop insured? I am going to insure mine under my home-owner's policy. Does anyone know what will be covered bt doing so? John http://www.cybercom.net/~ruda/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 13:30:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA187955838; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:30:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09697; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:29:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:25:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09101; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:25:27 -0500 Received: from brickbat8.mindspring.com (brickbat8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09074; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:25:15 -0500 Received: from tomcat133 (ip213.princeton.nj.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.56.213]) by brickbat8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA26008 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:24:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970402125103.0073d16c@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: dspeed@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 13:25:26 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Dave Speed Subject: recommendations sought Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greetings: I have a 701C Thinkpad now and am looking to add another. What to do ? The applications are: Desktop replacement / mobile / portable. ie - the kids have taken over the home pc and I am heading onto the road to do some consulting - some of which may involve 30 day in-the-motel stays. Some scientific work, mostly word processor / spreadsheet / office connectivity. Some graphics work. A little programming. Potential for video conf to home a real plus. I'd like a new MMX version, but don't have the $$'s and want to move faster than needed to let the prices settle. I have looked at the current crop and really like the 760 ED series. A couple of questions: 1. Does IBM support NT installation on these ? (ie even if you don't buy NT via IBM ?). 2. If you put the Select a Dock expansion on it, could you disable the internal video and use a PCI Video board to drive an external monitor ? 3. How is the memory upgraded - ie how many slots.sockets. I see IBM saying that it goes to 104 MB, but some others saying less. Is there 16 mb of memory on the MB or do you have to throw out 8 when you upgrade (I'm thinking 32 should be a good start). 4. Any thoughts on the ability for supporting video conferencing ? 5. Are there any generic problems (HW/SW) withthe ED series ? I see Barnetts Computer Warehouse 800.931.7070 (212.696.4777 - NYC) is advertising the 16/2.1 version for $3999.99 in the latest Computer Shopper (April 1997) page 405. I called them and they confirmed the price and said they were in stock. I failed to verify that these were new-in-box and to find if they charged a surcharge for credit-card use. Does anybody have any experience with these people ? A lot of weird businesses over there, but some good deals too. This is close enough that I might be forced to abandon my "No-NYC" rule and look them up. At this price, it looks like a great deal to me in comparison th the current crop of $3000 wonders from Dell and all. The internal modem, better screen, longer warranty and Thinkpad construction are worth the difference to me. The higher resolution screen and ability to add (relatively) large amounts of memory tell me it will keep me going 3 or more years). I'd appreciate any thoughts the group has on this deal. Dave From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 13:32:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA189085921; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:32:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09941; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:31:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:27:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09290; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:27:00 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (CNRI.Reston.VA.US [132.151.1.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09252; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:26:53 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa15755; 2 Apr 97 13:28 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA29750; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:25:46 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:25:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199704021825.NAA29750@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> From: Ken Manheimer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Modem connect speed, and big disk+Win 95 on tp701 X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US X-Mailer: VM 6.22 / 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have some questions that probably have more to do with win95 and dialup connections, but i also have some nice reactions to some enhancements of my TP 701cs, that occasioned the questions, that are worth reporting. First, the questions: Can anyone tell me whether there's anything i could/should be doing to get win95 dial-ups to my provider to connect at the max speed? I'm using a 3Com PCMCIA EtherLink III combo modem in my thinkpad 701, and Netcom has 28.8 modems, but the connections are always reported as 24000 or 26400. ? Also, i frequently, but sporadically, lose the connection. Sometimes it happens moments after connection, but it seems like i often don't see it until after i've been online for half an hour or an hour, and it's not unusual for me to be able to be connected for hours before it happens. Could these problems be due to a noisy phone line, or something like that, or are there some software settings i should be tweaking? I tried a few things, like mucking with the input/output buffers ("Advanced" settings in the modem properties sheet), with zero noticeable effect. Any suggestions would be apppreciated. So. To add a bit of TP relevancy, i recently gave in to disk space pressures and invested some bucks - $750, to be exact - in my aging thinkpad. I got a pepsales 2.1 GB toshiba disk, to replace my IBM 720 MB one. (720 isn't small, but easily gets crowded with full linux and Windows installations.) Not cheap - $750 for the do-it-yourself kit - but i'm quite pleased with the improvement! For the pepsales 701 upgrade disks, "do-it-yourself" means pop in the disk, and figure out how to format it. There actually would be a reason to pay the additional $50 to have them do the job - they'll transfer the personality from the old disk for you. However, i wanted to take the opportunity of a fresh disk to give Win 95 a try, in addition to doing an upgrade to Redhat 4.1 on the Linux side. Which brings me to my next item - i am quite glad i gave '95 a try - there is no way i would go back to to Win 3.1. I think the user interface is, finally, worthwhile, and more importantly, the included ppp networking and array of drivers means i can get a substantial system set up without creating a godawful, fragile mess! (Plug and play found drivers for my modem, ethernet card, SCSI adaptor, zip drive, and CDROM cards without blinking. I was able to get them all going in win31, but it was a major trauma *every* time i had to add somethign new. Yuck!) I suppose there's a degree of luck in whether or not your particular stuff is accommodated, but if it is (or if the vendor makes available suitably packaged drivers), it's an incredible relief! I'm a bit embarrassed to admit it, being a bit of a unix bigot, but with the nice UI, well integrated PPP and FAX capabilities, ability to use the lotus smartsuite that came with the thinkpad, etc, it turns out that i now spend more time in Win95 than in Linux. Oh well...-) (Note that i have no affiliation with either pepsales or microsoft - just a satisfied customer. ... Though i do think microsoft charges *way* too much for their software, despite my appreciation ...) Ken Manheimer klm@python.org 703 620-8990 x268 (orporation for National Research |nitiatives # If you appreciate Python, consider joining the PSA! # # . # From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 13:46:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA195506816; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:46:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12444; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:46:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:41:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11734; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:41:49 -0500 Received: from mail3.isomedia.com (mail3.isomedia.com [204.157.237.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11707; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:41:38 -0500 Received: from billprat (pm1-018.isomedia.com [206.129.160.50]) by mail3.isomedia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10529; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 10:11:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199704021811.KAA10529@mail3.isomedia.com> From: "Bill Pratt" To: , "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: Re: Modem connect speed, and big disk+Win 95 on tp701 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 10:30:10 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I gave up on the 3com modem...it just will not connect reliably. I too had disconnects...it is now sitting in my desk drawer. I will wait for Motorola to introduce a Montana card that does 56k. Egghead is selling the USR 33.6 for $219.00 that will flash to 56k...but they are having problems making 56k work. I heard that people are bring them back to the stores for credit. But, you should get the new USR 33.6 to connect at 31.2 most of the time with a good phone line. The 701's internal 14.4 modem (with compression) will yield 19.2 very reliably and works excellent with Win/95. Regards, Bill Pratt, Bellevue, WA "No matter where you go...there you are"! billp117@isomedia.com http://www.isomedia.com/homes/billp117 ---------- > From: Ken Manheimer > To: ThinkPad Mailing List > Subject: Modem connect speed, and big disk+Win 95 on tp701 > Date: Wednesday, April 02, 1997 10:25 AM > > I have some questions that probably have more to do with win95 and > dialup connections, but i also have some nice reactions to some > enhancements of my TP 701cs, that occasioned the questions, that are > worth reporting. > > First, the questions: > > Can anyone tell me whether there's anything i could/should be doing to > get win95 dial-ups to my provider to connect at the max speed? I'm > using a 3Com PCMCIA EtherLink III combo modem in my thinkpad 701, and > Netcom has 28.8 modems, but the connections are always reported as > 24000 or 26400. ? > > Also, i frequently, but sporadically, lose the connection. Sometimes > it happens moments after connection, but it seems like i often don't > see it until after i've been online for half an hour or an hour, and > it's not unusual for me to be able to be connected for hours before it > happens. > > Could these problems be due to a noisy phone line, or something like > that, or are there some software settings i should be tweaking? I > tried a few things, like mucking with the input/output buffers > ("Advanced" settings in the modem properties sheet), with zero > noticeable effect. Any suggestions would be apppreciated. > > So. > > To add a bit of TP relevancy, i recently gave in to disk space > pressures and invested some bucks - $750, to be exact - in my aging > thinkpad. I got a pepsales 2.1 GB toshiba disk, to replace my IBM 720 > MB one. (720 isn't small, but easily gets crowded with full linux and > Windows installations.) Not cheap - $750 for the do-it-yourself kit - > but i'm quite pleased with the improvement! > > For the pepsales 701 upgrade disks, "do-it-yourself" means pop in the > disk, and figure out how to format it. There actually would be a > reason to pay the additional $50 to have them do the job - they'll > transfer the personality from the old disk for you. However, i wanted > to take the opportunity of a fresh disk to give Win 95 a try, in > addition to doing an upgrade to Redhat 4.1 on the Linux side. > > Which brings me to my next item - i am quite glad i gave '95 a try - > there is no way i would go back to to Win 3.1. I think the user > interface is, finally, worthwhile, and more importantly, the included > ppp networking and array of drivers means i can get a substantial > system set up without creating a godawful, fragile mess! (Plug and > play found drivers for my modem, ethernet card, SCSI adaptor, zip > drive, and CDROM cards without blinking. I was able to get them all > going in win31, but it was a major trauma *every* time i had to add > somethign new. Yuck!) I suppose there's a degree of luck in whether > or not your particular stuff is accommodated, but if it is (or if the > vendor makes available suitably packaged drivers), it's an incredible > relief! > > I'm a bit embarrassed to admit it, being a bit of a unix bigot, but > with the nice UI, well integrated PPP and FAX capabilities, ability to > use the lotus smartsuite that came with the thinkpad, etc, it turns > out that i now spend more time in Win95 than in Linux. Oh well...-) > > (Note that i have no affiliation with either pepsales or microsoft - > just a satisfied customer. ... Though i do think microsoft charges > *way* too much for their software, despite my appreciation ...) > > Ken Manheimer klm@python.org 703 620-8990 x268 > (orporation for National Research |nitiatives > > # If you appreciate Python, consider joining the PSA! # > # . # From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 14:51:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA232800672; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:51:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18612; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:49:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:46:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18142; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:45:58 -0500 Received: from mail2a.pilot.net ([198.232.147.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18130; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:45:54 -0500 Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (unknown-8-248.jud.state.ca.us [206.81.8.248]) by mail2a.pilot.net with SMTP id LAA23912; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 11:45:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00002DBA; Wed, 2 Apr 97 11:42:33 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 11:42:14 -0800 Message-Id: <00002DBA.1225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Subject: Re: Insurance and Delivery Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.351010068" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the remainder, you will need to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.351010068 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part I bought my 701C from IBM Direct last May. They used DHL. It arrived 7 days after the order - which surprised my. They did not leave it at the door. You should be sure to specify that. My 701 is insured with State Farm, under my homeowner's policy. StateFarm just wanted a copy of my receipt. The policy covers replacement due to theft or destruction. Mitchell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Insurance and Delivery Author: at Internet Date: 4/2/97 1:13 PM Hi. Has anyone ordered a Thinkpad from IBM Direct? If so, do you remember how long it took? What shipping company do they use? Will they leave it at the door, or must you sign for it? Also: Does anyone have their laptop insured? I am going to insure mine under my home-owner's policy. Does anyone know what will be covered bt doing so? John http://www.cybercom.net/~ruda/ --IMA.Boundary.351010068 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (198.232.147.17) by ima.jud.ca.gov with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00002D95; Wed, 2 Apr 97 10:56:27 -0800 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mail-oak-2.pilot.net with SMTP id KAA26023 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 10:59:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08539; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:20:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:14:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08021; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:14:26 -0500 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07992; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:14:17 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id NAA08406 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:13:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:13:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970402131341_-1537224738@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Insurance and Delivery Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --IMA.Boundary.351010068-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 15:23:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA267552577; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 15:22:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22796; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 15:21:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 15:17:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22184; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 15:17:21 -0500 Received: from brickbat7.mindspring.com (brickbat7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22131; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 15:17:09 -0500 Received: from tomcat133 (ip231.princeton.nj.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.56.231]) by brickbat7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA18708 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 15:17:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970402151720.0073ea84@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: dspeed@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 15:17:31 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Dave Speed Subject: Barnetts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Ouch !!!! A head's up from a Digest reader and a quick trip to Deja News left my ears ringing. Barnett's appears to be bad news. But, you know, I did buy a HP Scanjet4C off of them last year and had minimal problems (they did send an Apple instead of a PC version but replaced it promptly). If anybody has delt with them successfully, please let me know. OK - how about the second best price ... ? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 15:44:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA279473846; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 15:44:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25517; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 15:43:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 15:39:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24796; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 15:39:25 -0500 Received: from ts1.netpathway.com (root@ts1.netpathway.com [208.137.139.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24771; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 15:39:16 -0500 Received: from egiles (port14.netpathway.com [208.137.139.29]) by ts1.netpathway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA14480; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:39:13 -0600 Message-Id: <199704022039.OAA14480@ts1.netpathway.com> From: "Eric Giles" To: , "Dave Speed" Subject: Re: recommendations sought Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:37:06 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From: Dave Speed > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: recommendations sought > Date: Wednesday, April 02, 1997 12:25 PM > > > Greetings: > > I have a 701C Thinkpad now and am looking to add another. > > What to do ? The applications are: > > Desktop replacement / mobile / portable. > ie - the kids have taken over the home pc and I am heading onto the > road to do some consulting - some of which may involve 30 day > in-the-motel stays. > > Some scientific work, mostly word processor / spreadsheet / > office connectivity. Some graphics work. A little programming. > Potential for video conf to home a real plus. > > I'd like a new MMX version, but don't have the $$'s and want to move > faster than needed to let the prices settle. I have looked at the current > crop and really like the 760 ED series. > > A couple of questions: > > 1. Does IBM support NT installation on these ? (ie even if you don't buy > NT via IBM ?). Yes, IBM has NT drivers available on their website. NT 4.0 runs well on my 760ED with 48 MB RAM. You do lose some of the MPEG features, but I never used them under Win95 anyway. The system has yet to lock up while using NT yet, something that I can not say about Win95. > 2. If you put the Select a Dock expansion on it, could you disable the > internal video > and use a PCI Video board to drive an external monitor ? Yes, and it works very well. I am using the Selectadock II with a Western Digital 1.6GB hard drive and a Matrox Millenium 2MB video card connected to a 17" Diamondtron tube monitor. The internal card automatically disables itself when the PCI card is installed. Then only thing that I have to do before docking the unit is to remove the internal 1.4GB drive from the ThinkPad so that the machine will boot from the 1.6 in the docking station. I have tried differnet settings in the BIOS setup to prevent this, but I can't seem to get it to work. > 3. How is the memory upgraded - ie how many slots.sockets. > I see IBM saying that it goes to 104 MB, but some others saying less. > Is there 16 mb of memory on the MB or do you have to throw out 8 > when you upgrade (I'm thinking 32 should be a good start). There are two DIMM sockets for memory expansion. The 16MB is internal to the unit and does not have to be removed when upgrading. The 760ED will go to 104MB with a special expansion module that is available from a link on IBM's web site. > 4. Any thoughts on the ability for supporting video conferencing ? Never tried it myself, but I would imagine it would work well. > 5. Are there any generic problems (HW/SW) withthe ED series ? Although others results have varied, I have not been able to get service release 2 of Win95 to work reliably with the 760ED. Also, IBM has not yet released a system patch that will allow CardBus PC cards to work with the 760 series without using a special driver (at least with the Xircom CardBus Ethernet card). I do get annoyed at the system delay when the modem and sound system is being used at the same time, but this can be taken care of by using a separate modem (kinda defeats the purpose though). Hope this helps-- Eric Giles From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 16:58:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA052268297; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 16:58:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03111; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 16:56:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 16:52:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02667; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 16:52:22 -0500 Received: from lance.castle.net (root@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02648; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 16:52:16 -0500 Received: from lance (mbernste@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by lance.castle.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA03896 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 16:54:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 16:54:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael P. Bernstein" X-Sender: mbernste@lance To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760ED & FAT 32 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm thinking about reformatting and installing Fat 32 (Win 95). Are there any incompatibilities between the so called "preinstalled applications" and FAT 32 on a 760ED? Would I require a BIOS upgrade first? My BIOS is from last May (I think). If a BIOS upograde is necessary, how can I tell if I have the "enahnced video" (XGA) or regular SVGA model? Thanks, /\/\ike Bernstein (http://www.castle.net/~mbernste/welcome.html) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 17:40:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA125510797; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:39:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07018; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:38:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:35:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06621; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:35:17 -0500 Received: from brickbat7.mindspring.com (brickbat7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06604; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:35:13 -0500 Received: from user-37kb967.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb967.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.199]) by brickbat7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA25027; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:35:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199704022235.RAA25027@brickbat7.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Michael P. Bernstein" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 02 Apr 97 17:35:15 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 760ED & FAT 32 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hibernation has a problem with fat32 & most other disk utilites will also have problems. You would have svga, 800x600 display. The XGA came out in November or so. It is also against the licencing agreemant, not my major concern. On Wed, 2 Apr 1997 16:54:20 -0500 (EST), Michael P. Bernstein wrote: >I'm thinking about reformatting and installing Fat 32 (Win 95). Are there >any incompatibilities between the so called "preinstalled applications" >and FAT 32 on a 760ED? Would I require a BIOS upgrade first? My BIOS is >from last May (I think). If a BIOS upograde is necessary, how can I tell >if I have the "enahnced video" (XGA) or regular SVGA model? > >Thanks, >/\/\ike Bernstein >(http://www.castle.net/~mbernste/welcome.html) > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 17:51:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA130861473; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:51:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08303; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:49:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:46:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07916; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:46:17 -0500 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem093.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.93]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07897; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 17:46:04 -0500 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id OAA00293; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:42:09 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 14:39:18 -0800 (PST) From: derelict To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Dock I and SCSI? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I jsut bought a dock I for my TP 755CD, and after going through the manual, it seems that there is a SCSI controller builit into it? Is this correct? Win 95 didn't recognize it. Where can I get the specifics about it? Will it work with linux? I'd be interested to hear from other dock I owners, I've never done SCSI before. Thanks, -Mike -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 21:32:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA061164737; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:32:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26114; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:31:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:27:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25724; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:27:45 -0500 Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (mail-gw2.pacbell.net [206.13.28.53]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25712; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:27:40 -0500 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-121-57.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.121.57]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA06014; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 18:27:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199704030227.SAA06014@mail-gw2.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Michael P. Bernstein" , Subject: Re: 760ED & FAT 32 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 18:26:34 -0800 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The newest BIOS fixes the hibernation issue. ---------- > From: Michael P. Bernstein > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: 760ED & FAT 32 > Date: Wednesday, April 02, 1997 1:54 PM > > I'm thinking about reformatting and installing Fat 32 (Win 95). Are there > any incompatibilities between the so called "preinstalled applications" > and FAT 32 on a 760ED? Would I require a BIOS upgrade first? My BIOS is > from last May (I think). If a BIOS upograde is necessary, how can I tell > if I have the "enahnced video" (XGA) or regular SVGA model? > > Thanks, > /\/\ike Bernstein > (http://www.castle.net/~mbernste/welcome.html) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 22:01:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA104476481; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:01:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28695; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:00:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:57:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28269; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:57:47 -0500 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem195.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.195]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28241; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:57:33 -0500 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id SAA00467; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 18:53:28 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199704030158.UAA24652@brickbat7.mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 18:52:43 -0800 (PST) From: derelict To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Subject: Re: Dock I and SCSI? Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Can you tell me the model number? Thanks, -Mike On 02-Apr-97 Jeffrey S. Schwartz wrote: >It is a future domain adapter & win95 should have reconized it. > -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 22:32:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA125058336; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:32:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01487; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:31:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:28:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01012; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:28:09 -0500 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00996; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:27:57 -0500 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA27113; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:27:31 -0500 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199704030327.WAA27113@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Dock I and SCSI? To: mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (derelict) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:27:30 -0500 (EST) Cc: jeffsnc@mindspring.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "derelict" at Apr 2, 97 06:52:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > On 02-Apr-97 Jeffrey S. Schwartz wrote: > >It is a future domain adapter & win95 should have reconized it. > Can you tell me the model number? It's a Future Domain TMC-950. Win95 won't detect it unless there is a SCSI device attached to it. It works, but in my experience, it's a very poor performer. I have some notes on my experiences with Dock 1 SCSI under Linux that date from last summer, if anyone is interested. (I've posted these to the list before). -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 22:48:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA134739313; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:48:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02827; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:46:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:44:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02600; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:44:26 -0500 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem135.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02587; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:44:19 -0500 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA00505 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 19:40:28 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 19:16:19 -0800 (PST) From: derelict To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: tp755cd mwgames Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was wondering if the following was possible: I know you can enable 8 bit soundblaster in dos with the CD connected. But with SB pro emulation, there's no CD connected. I tried to hack at the mwave scripts to load the CD drivers also, but it's not working. Is it possible that the mwave chip can't handle SB pro emulation and the CD connection at the same time? Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, -Mike -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 22:52:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA136159528; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:52:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03466; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:51:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:48:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03092; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:48:49 -0500 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem135.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03080; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:48:44 -0500 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA00508; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 19:43:55 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199704030327.WAA27113@dogmead.excelsior.com> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 19:42:53 -0800 (PST) From: derelict To: Tim Tyhurst Subject: Re: Dock I and SCSI? Cc: linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, jeffsnc@mindspring.com Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'd like to hear about your linux experiences, since I use linux about 98% of the time now! =) -mike On 03-Apr-97 Tim Tyhurst wrote: >> On 02-Apr-97 Jeffrey S. Schwartz wrote: >> >It is a future domain adapter & win95 should have reconized it. > >> Can you tell me the model number? > >It's a Future Domain TMC-950. Win95 won't detect it unless there is >a SCSI device attached to it. It works, but in my experience, it's a >very poor performer. > >I have some notes on my experiences with Dock 1 SCSI under Linux that >date from last summer, if anyone is interested. (I've posted these to >the list before). > >-- >Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 22:57:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA138989861; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 22:57:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23310; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:03:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:56:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22076; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:56:54 -0500 Received: from brickbat7.mindspring.com (brickbat7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22066; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:56:50 -0500 Received: from user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.161]) by brickbat7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA24292; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:56:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199704030156.UAA24292@brickbat7.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "A.F.Hewlett" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 02 Apr 97 19:56:55 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP755c video and Win95 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You need to install the video drivers from IBM, & load the vesa drivers in the config in order to get 256 color. On Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:45:00 +0100 (BST), A.F.Hewlett wrote: >Has anyone got the video card on a TP755c to work in any 256 color modes >in Windows 95? I'm fairly sure it has enough memory as I can get it to run >X in 256 color modes but Win95 refuses - either on the TFT screen or the >external monitor. > >Help appreciated, >Angus > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 23:00:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA140140035; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 23:00:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23371; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:03:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22184; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:18 -0500 Received: from brickbat7.mindspring.com (brickbat7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22151; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:11 -0500 Received: from user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.161]) by brickbat7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA24405; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199704030157.UAA24405@brickbat7.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "phong@concentric.net" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 02 Apr 97 20:55:22 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 760 ED Screen Flicker... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The DC/DC card is bad, call IBM & they will fix it. On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:46:30 +0500, Patrick Hong wrote: >I recently acquired a 760 ED and was wondering if anyone has experienced >"screen flicker" with the TFT display? If this continues, I'll end up going >crazy! > >... patrick > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. > > phong@concentric.net (613) 769-1544 Tel > phong@connectinc.com (613) 728-4063 Fax jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 23:02:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA140710129; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 23:02:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23536; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:04:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:58:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22434; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:58:32 -0500 Received: from brickbat7.mindspring.com (brickbat7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22411; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:58:18 -0500 Received: from user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.161]) by brickbat7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA24652; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:58:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199704030158.UAA24652@brickbat7.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "derelict" , "linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 02 Apr 97 20:58:15 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dock I and SCSI? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It is a future domain adapter & win95 should have reconized it. On Wed, 02 Apr 1997 14:39:18 -0800 (PST), derelict wrote: >I jsut bought a dock I for my TP 755CD, and after going through the manual, >it seems that there is a SCSI controller builit into it? Is this correct? >Win 95 didn't recognize it. > >Where can I get the specifics about it? Will it work with linux? I'd be >interested to hear from other dock I owners, I've never done SCSI before. > >Thanks, >-Mike >-- >mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu >mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu >http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 23:07:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA142860446; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 23:07:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23332; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:03:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22111; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:06 -0500 Received: from brickbat7.mindspring.com (brickbat7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22088; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:56:59 -0500 Received: from user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.161]) by brickbat7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA24346; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:56:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199704030156.UAA24346@brickbat7.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Chris Alba" , "ThinkPad E-mail Group" Date: Wed, 02 Apr 97 20:20:11 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP 760CD with a mind of it's own... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Try pressing C-A-D when that happends & see what is running. On Tue, 1 Apr 1997 01:43:16 +0100, Chris Alba wrote: >I'm sure there's a simple answer to this, but I don't know it! >Every while, say once an hour, my TP760CD/W95 seems to have a fit! >The HDD icon on the LCD flashes, the HDD goes berserk, then the FDD does the same. >I'ts like when I had the System Agent scheduled to defrag my HDD, but I was scared to use the PC when that was occurring, because of documented problems with this, so I don't have System Agent installed any more. >Does anyone else get this? I would appreciate any advice/assistance with this "feature". >Regards, >Chris >cja@usa.net jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 23:09:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA144410583; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 23:09:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23391; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:03:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22292; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:42 -0500 Received: from brickbat7.mindspring.com (brickbat7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22281; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:37 -0500 Received: from user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.161]) by brickbat7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA24390; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199704030157.UAA24390@brickbat7.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Gwynzel B Vargas" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 02 Apr 97 20:53:18 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Killing Windows on a 365XD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You can request from IBM a CD that has a win3.11/dos preload on it & just load it. The cost is about $20.00 + S&H On Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:01:21 EST, Gwynzel B Vargas wrote: >Hello, I'm a new member to the mailing list, and the type of machine I >have is >a 365XD. I just purchased the machine a couple days ago and I already >want >to kill Windows :) I'm mostly a DOS fan so I'd like to boot up in pure >100% DOS >but I'd like to keep a minimal installation (is there a such thing?? :) >of Win'95 on >the HD, so what's the best way of going about it? Should I start killing >off the >extra icons & Win programs or should I start off from scratch and just >reformat >the drive? Will it be safe to reformat to DOS 5.0 or will Win'95 have a >problem with >it? Thanks for any info! jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 23:13:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA146020818; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 23:13:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23328; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:03:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22161; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:14 -0500 Received: from brickbat7.mindspring.com (brickbat7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22107; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:05 -0500 Received: from user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.161]) by brickbat7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA24381; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:56:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199704030156.UAA24381@brickbat7.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Randy Whittle" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 02 Apr 97 20:49:30 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 560 Buttons? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The Key board needs to be replaced, IBM will not send you one, although you can by one from the parts dept. There are three optiond, ch with a local dealer & see if they could order a replacement KB & allow you to use the TP until the part arrives. Usually the next day. Get a overnight easyserve $99.00 extra & loose your system for one night. Finally, try ordering the box the week before & send it in on friday or monday. You should be back before the next weekend. On Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:02:43 -0800, Randy Whittle wrote: >I am dismayed that the left (the IMPORTANT one!) button of my trackpoint >buttons basically broke a hinge and fell out. > >I really *don't* want to send this thing in for service if I can help it >(don't want to be without the machine). Do you suppose I can just buy >another button and replace it myself? Or get them to send me one for free >under warranty (still less than a year since I bought it)? > >Anybody else have this happen to them? > > >------- >Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net >Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle > >I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it >is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I >am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 23:14:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA146290861; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 23:14:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23308; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:03:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22163; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:15 -0500 Received: from brickbat7.mindspring.com (brickbat7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22104; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:03 -0500 Received: from user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.161]) by brickbat7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA24365; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:56:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199704030156.UAA24365@brickbat7.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Sandra Rozhon" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 02 Apr 97 20:44:13 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 760 ED mouse connection Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Usually, if you are using a serial mouse & have a adapter to make it a PS/2 mouse, they don't work. On Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:16:57 -0500, Sandra Rozhon wrote: >On 26 Mar 97, Sandy Hines penned the following: > >> Some how I feel foolish even asking this question. > >Don't....I have an even more foolish question. > >> >> What is the best way to get a microsoft mouse to work with a TP 760 ED? >> >> I have gone to the control panel - mouse - general - change - >> microsoft and tried every driver with the mouse in the serial port >> on the back and plugged into the round port on the Right hand side. >> (I have an adapter) > >I bought a mini-mouse that has a serial port plug. At $5, it >looked like the ideal thing to take along on trips. Thinking that >things might be easier if I used a PS/2 adapter, I bought one of >those, too. Plugging into the PS/2 port doesn't seem to do a thing. >What I need to know is, did I just forget a step like the other Sandy >did? Or is it impossible to use a serial port mouse + adapter on the >Thinkpad? If I can, what settings should I be using? > >Do I need to install the mouse drivers, or can I just depend on the >WIN95 drivers that are already there? > >Also, can I have the option to use either one, or must I have one >always disabled? I have the 365XD, if it matters. > >Sandy R. jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 2 23:16:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA147180976; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 23:16:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23398; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:03:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22185; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:18 -0500 Received: from brickbat7.mindspring.com (brickbat7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22132; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:57:09 -0500 Received: from user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb951.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.161]) by brickbat7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA24331; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 20:56:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199704030156.UAA24331@brickbat7.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "MPinter@aol.com" , "owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 02 Apr 97 20:12:22 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP: Better Video Solution for 755CE/CX? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The TP's both come with 1meg of video ram. If the TP's didn't have video ram you w/n get any video. I don't think that the docks support pass through video, that means that you won't be able to use a video card in the dock. Sorry, I don't have any specific suggestions on how to improve video performance execpt to use TP's that have PCI video, ie 760e's & 365x's. On Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:43:54 -0500 (EST), MPinter@aol.com wrote: >We're running 755CE and 755CX machines in Dock Station 1 connected to NEC >MultiSync XE17 (running at 1024x768) as a "portable" workstation. They each >have 24->40Mb of RAM and are running Windoze95. We are running a very >graphic intensive client/server application as well as Lotus Notes and a >terminal emulator, and even with 40Mb, there is very slow video performance >within the applications and when switching between applications (plus a lot >of hard disk thrashing). IBM ThinkPad tech support told me these machines >don't have video RAM. I'm considering removing the token ring cards from the >dock station and using a PCMCIA token ring card and then bringing in some 2Mb >Diamond SpeedStar64 video cards to put in the docking station. Has anyone >else had this type of problem, and what was your solution? > >Any and all responses are greatly appreciated. > >Regards, >Mike Pinter, Sr. >Tenneco Automotive >Lead Programmer/Analyst jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 3 00:36:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA197005800; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 00:36:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13083; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 00:36:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Apr 1997 00:31:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12840; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 00:31:53 -0500 Received: from pcug.org.au (supreme.pcug.org.au [203.10.76.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12825; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 00:31:47 -0500 Received: from TACT (ts115.pcug.org.au [203.10.76.115]) by pcug.org.au (8.8.5/8.8.2/TIP-1.2) with SMTP id PAA18197; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 15:30:36 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 15:33:00 -0400 To: Disneyjazz@aol.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Neil Mclean" Subject: Re: Insurance and Delivery Message-Id: <860099580-0-nmclean@pcug.org.au> X-Mailer: IBM OS/2 Internet Mail Client Support for Lotus Notes X-Notes-Logo: StdNotesLtr34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <860099580-1-nmclean@pcug.org.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Disneyjazz @ aol.com 03/04/97 04:13 To: thinkpad @ cs.utk.edu cc: Subject: Insurance and Delivery >Also: Does anyone have their laptop insured? I am >going to insure mine under my home-owner's policy. Does >anyone know what will be covered bt doing so? I insured my ThinkPad. I bought it (760CD) with cash from my own pocket and want to protect my investment. No doubt your situation is different to here in OZ, but this was my experience: Under the available home owner's contents insurance I would only receive a pitiful fraction of the cost of the TP if it were stolen from my home, and even LESS if it were lost or stolen at some other location. (Not good for a PORTABLE item...) :( Sigh. I then shopped around and found an insurance company that covers expensive electronic devices. My insurance policy is an agreed value policy ($13000 aussie dollars). If my ThinkPad is lost or stolen, or even simply damaged or destroyed accidentally, any where in australia, it will be repaired or replaced up to the agreed value. For overseas travel, up to a few months, cover can be extended at no extra charge. I feel this kind of insurance is excellent. Imagine spending a small fortune of your hard won cash on a TP and then dropping it! Cash down the drain! You may as well have taken that cash and gambled it away in a single night. :) /****************************/ /* Neil Mclean */ /* Canberra, Australia */ /****************************/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 3 00:53:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA204016818; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 00:53:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14187; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 00:53:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Apr 1997 00:50:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14017; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 00:50:28 -0500 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13989; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 00:50:21 -0500 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-i-08.usc.edu [128.125.224.80]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id VAA13183; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:50:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970402215122.00715bf0@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 21:51:35 -0800 To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: 560 Buttons? Cc: TP List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:49 PM 4/2/97, Jeffrey S. Schwartz wrote: >The Key board needs to be replaced, IBM will not send you one, >although you can by one from the parts dept. There are three optiond, >ch with a local dealer & see if they could order a replacement KB & >allow you to use the TP until the part arrives. Usually the next day. >Get a overnight easyserve $99.00 extra & loose your system for one >night. Finally, try ordering the box the week before & send it in on >friday or monday. You should be back before the next weekend. Good news is that being in a place like L.A. has its benefits--someone like IBM *has* to have an authorized repair center in a place like this. Anyway, I'm about 2 to 3 miles from downtown and an IBM-authorized repair center. I was able to fax them a copy of my receipt and give them my serial number over the phone so they could order the keyboard in advance and I wouldn't have to be without my machine. Two days later (today) they called to tell me the replacement keyboard had arrived. I brought my 560 in and they fixed it in an hour while I waited. Not bad! ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 3 11:30:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA173864999; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 11:29:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10701; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 11:29:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Apr 1997 11:23:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10253; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 11:23:19 -0500 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10242; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 11:23:15 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx23-12.teleport.com [206.163.125.205]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA17197; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 08:22:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 08:22:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199704031622.IAA17197@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Randy Whittle From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: 560 Buttons? Cc: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu So Randy, did you get any other email implying that others were having the same problem or where you just 'heavy handed' in your tp usage? Or could it have been more of the tile floor affair... Bryan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 3 11:59:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA189226775; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 11:59:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14033; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 11:58:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Apr 1997 11:55:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13445; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 11:55:11 -0500 Received: from Fox.nstn.ca (fox.nstn.ca [137.186.128.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13427; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 11:55:05 -0500 Received: from PortHawkesbury-ts-10.nstn.ca (PortHawkesbury-ts-9.nstn.ca [137.186.31.109]) by Fox.nstn.ca (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id MAA28812 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 12:54:52 -0400 (AST) Message-Id: <33441A2F.500A@istar.ca> Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 12:59:27 -0800 From: Doug X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Should thinkpads be used at large angles? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greetings, I am bringing to market an accessory for laptops and I need to know if the use of it will have a detrimental effect on the laptop itself. It would be very useful to have the answer to this before I market in mass quantities ! This discussion group undoubtedly has members with the expertise that could address my concerns. I would also appreciate being provided with contact information for other individuals who would be able to comment intelligently on my question. I own a company called Laidback We R Inc. that manufactures a table that gives the laptop user one more thing to feel good about. We have designed this, prototyped it and filed for patent and trademark protection. Its a bed table for laptops or more correctly for their users. I have personally used my laptop on the table for over half a year -- a most comfortable half year I might add. I have not encountered any mechanical problems or the like because of the orientation the table requires of the laptop. My question to you, the people in the know, is related to using your brand of laptop at the roughtly 45 degree angle required by my table. Is this orientation in anyway a problem for the inner workings of the laptop. Will the moving parts wear out more quickly or perform improperly due to this orientation. My own experience says, no but it would be comforting to have experts make the same claim. Take a look at the table on the modest homepage I have designed at: http://home.istar.ca/~laidback This should give you an idea of the product use and just how laptops will be placed while on it. Let me know what you think of the product as well any effect it could have on hardware performance for your laptops. Thanks for your time, Douglas Martell Laidback We R Inc. Ph:902-226-3092 FAX:902-226-0066 email:laidback@istar.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 3 13:36:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA234562615; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:36:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23100; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:36:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:33:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22715; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:33:25 -0500 Received: from doblegate.doble.com (doblegate.doble.com [204.215.186.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22691; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:33:19 -0500 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 343f7690; Thu, 3 Apr 97 13:31:05 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:31:09 -0500 Message-Id: <343f7690@doblegate.doble.com> Subject: IBM 365ED advice sought To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, A local computer store is selling a 365ED R6G model cheap because it has no accesories. Unfortunely they do not know the features and I cannot seem to find information on IBM's web site. I know the major features but need stuff like processor, memory, hd size. I am guessing it is Double Scan display as it has both brightness and contrast. Is the LCD capable of 800x600? If you have a 365ED, how do you like it? I only have experience with the 750Cs systems. I would like the built-in sound and CD as I use Street Atlas 4.0 and GPSS when over in the UK. GPSS has sound output. 73 Eric eac@shore.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 3 13:46:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA240543174; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:46:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24170; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:44:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:42:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23965; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:42:04 -0500 Received: from doblegate.doble.com (doblegate.doble.com [204.215.186.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23955; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:41:59 -0500 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 343f9680; Thu, 3 Apr 97 13:39:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:39:27 -0500 Message-Id: <343f9680@doblegate.doble.com> Subject: Re: Sit 'n' Thinkpad Connectivity To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I noticed that Home Depot (DIY store) has a box that mounts on a tiled wall and is designed to blend in. It looks like you put a tile on the cover of the box and the box sticks out of the wall alittle. It looks like the box closes up to protect the power outlets. It might be possible to use it with lan connections or they may even have a "computer" version with a power outlet and network connection. 73 Eric eac@shore.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 3 14:02:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA247664121; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 14:02:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19216; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 12:52:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Apr 1997 12:49:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18866; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 12:49:13 -0500 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18844; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 12:49:05 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-6 #9830) id <01IH9KCJ4RHC9GZN77@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:48:28 MST Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 10:40:09 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Should thinkpads be used at large angles? In-Reply-To: "Message dated Thu, 03 Apr 1997 12:59:27 -0800" <33441A2F.500A@istar.ca> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IH9L8NB2QM9GZN77@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > My question to you, the people in the know, is related to using your > brand of laptop at the roughtly 45 degree angle required by my table. The only thing I can think of is uneven wear on the spindle bearing in the disk drive. This was a consideration back in the days of big, heavy media (the platters on which the magnetic coating lives) and spindles but doesn't seem like it could be too bad with the dinky drives now in use. However, it would be a good idea to contact IBM and inquire about position vs. wear in their drives, as well as Toshiba and whoever else is making them. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 3 16:45:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA043153911; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:45:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12464; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:43:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:39:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11913; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:39:29 -0500 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (cu18397@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.132]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11891; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:39:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (adw11@localhost) by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24988; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:39:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:39:14 -0500 (EST) From: Arthur D Woo Sender: adw11@columbia.edu To: ecottrell@doble.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM 365ED advice sought In-Reply-To: <343f7690@doblegate.doble.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I believe that the Cyrix based thinkpads, like the 365ED, only support 640x480 on the LCD. On Thu, 3 Apr 1997 ecottrell@doble.com wrote: > Hello, > > A local computer store is selling a 365ED R6G model cheap because it > has no accesories. Unfortunely they do not know the features and I > cannot seem to find information on IBM's web site. I know the major > features but need stuff like processor, memory, hd size. > > I am guessing it is Double Scan display as it has both brightness and > contrast. Is the LCD capable of 800x600? > > If you have a 365ED, how do you like it? I only have experience with > the 750Cs systems. > > I would like the built-in sound and CD as I use Street Atlas 4.0 and > GPSS when over in the UK. GPSS has sound output. > > 73 Eric eac@shore.net > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 3 16:57:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA050184643; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:57:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14552; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:56:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:53:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14005; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:53:16 -0500 Received: from tricon.net (kpt1.tricon.net [204.176.127.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13986; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:53:09 -0500 Received: from zenith by tricon.net (8.6.10/970402) id RAA06008; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 17:00:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 17:00:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199704032200.RAA06008@tricon.net> X-Sender: seabolt@tricon.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: James Seabolt Subject: 340 PS2 command gone Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have an IBM 340 Thinkpad. I am having to run Win3.11 because I only have 4 MEG ram. I use this notebook for when I can't be at my desktop for E-mail and Internet Access. I had been using a bulky 14.4 Haynes original designed for a desktop that I had plugged into the COM1 port (kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it). I got tired of dragging it around so I bought a Winsurfer 28.8 modem that plugs into the PCMCIA port. Then I had to track down the support software. Which I found on IBM's website. Now that everything is installed, I still can't use my modem because Internet Explorer keeps detecting the slow 2400 baud modem on the COM2 port and the 28.8 is supposed to be setup on the COM3 port. I tried to turn the modem off by using the PS2 command (PS2 IMODEM OF). But the command is gone. I keep getting a "Bad command of filename" error. Is there anyway to get it back? I tried surfing IBM's website using "PS2" as the keyword but none of those programs I downloaded did any good. Also, Where can I get the best deals on a 8 MEG upgrade for my laptop if I want to upgrade to Windows 95? Thanks. \\II// \\II// ___oOo___@ @___oOo___ ___oOo___@ @___oOo___ (_) (_) ********************************************************************* * James Seabolt Mailto:seabolt@tricon.net * * United States Webpage: http://tricon.net/personal/seabolt * * * * * * 1980 FIAT 2000 Spider (F.I.) summertime daily driver * * 1981 FIAT X1/9 (F.I.) 200,000 miles and still going * * 1981 FIAT 2000 Spider (Non runner) *for sale* * * 1994 JEEP Wrangler (YJ) 2.5 liter , four banger * * 1979 Snapper Hi-Vac (bone stock, save for Techumseh engine) * * 1976 Chevrolet Pickup 454 Big Block (raw torque) * * 1963 FORD Fairlane (just resting for the past 12 years) * * * ********************************************************************* From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 4 13:54:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA289920039; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 13:53:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05667; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 13:52:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Apr 1997 13:44:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04716; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 13:44:45 -0500 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04703; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 13:44:40 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out1.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA125903 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 18:42:57 GMT Received: from unknown(208.129.57.25) by out1.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smabvQGZt; Fri Apr 4 17:55:25 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970404104646.006be198@pop4.ibm.net> X-Sender: lestewa@pop4.ibm.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 10:55:09 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Lee A. Stewart" Subject: Simply Speaking on 75mhz TPs? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone here tried IBM's Simply Speaking on one of the 75mhz machine (like a 755C)? They list 100mhz as minimum, but having worked for IBM, sometimes their requirements are padded a bit.. Thanks.. Lee Stewart | lestewa@ibm.net --- - - - - - - - - - - - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AD2000 Web Designer | GRMI Web Designer http://www.ad2000.org | http://www.grmi.org From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 4 14:51:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA019993503; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 14:51:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11379; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 14:50:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Apr 1997 14:47:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10979; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 14:47:29 -0500 Received: from alpha1.superonline.com (irc.superonline.com [194.242.73.19]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10967; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 14:47:23 -0500 Received: from ged ([194.242.78.76]) by alpha1.superonline.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA12767 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 22:47:14 +0300 Message-Id: <33455D28.596B@superonline.com> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 21:57:29 +0200 From: akineb@superonline.com (Ibrahim Enis Akin) Reply-To: akineb@superonline.com Organization: SuperOnline X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01GoldC-SOL96 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: NT Audio Drive Problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi All, I have NT 3.51 Server and 95 dual boot on a 365XD. I have lost all my audio some time ago, so recently i have decided to reinstall the NT Audio Disk stuff. Thru drivers-remove I removed the old one first, reboot OK. Then I did add-unlisted driver-install new driver sequence, it seems like its reading a lot of stuff from the diskette. Then after about 15 sec. this message saying: Cannot load the ES1688 AudioDrive 1.05.01 driver. The driver file may be missing. Try install the driver again, or contact your system administrator. I am pretty annoyed with all this. And oh yes, I am the system administrator. PS. I have recently updated my BIOS to the latest, can this be it? -- Enis Akin akineb@superonline.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 4 16:06:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA060727987; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 16:06:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18331; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 16:04:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Apr 1997 16:00:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17874; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 16:00:02 -0500 Received: from brickell.bridge.net (root@brickell.bridge.net [204.253.4.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17802; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 15:59:52 -0500 Received: from ppp-mia3-100.bridge.net (ppp-mia3-100.bridge.net [207.16.5.100]) by brickell.bridge.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA03365 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 15:59:44 -0500 Received: by ppp-mia3-100.bridge.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4110.F66927A0@ppp-mia3-100.bridge.net>; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 15:57:56 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC4110.F66927A0@ppp-mia3-100.bridge.net> From: "Geovanny M. Ortiz" To: "'THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU'" Subject: New IBM 701CS owner Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 15:55:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I recently purchased an IBM Thinkpad 701CS from IBM credit. Upon = arrival of my new computer, I formatted the hard drive to get rid of = preinstalled software and installed Windows 95. Everything worked well = except my modem. The machine specifications state that the computer has = speakerphone capabilities, but the Windows 95 software I installed only = detected data and fax capabilities. I also tried Windows 3.11 software = with no luck. After several other ideas I posted a message on IBM's AOL = forum and a tech answer saying that I needed to use the special version = of Faxworks that came with the computer. I downloaded the program from = IBM's website and installed it only to run into more problems. First, = Faxworks would case a GPF every time I tried to run it and second, = Faxworks adds its own comm.drv to the INI files disabling my dial-up = connections. If you have heard or come across a solution to my problem, please = e-mail me, (o-n-a@bridge.net), at your earliest convinience. Thank you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 4 20:43:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA180704625; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 20:43:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09660; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 20:42:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Apr 1997 20:40:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09369; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 20:40:05 -0500 Received: from brickbat8.mindspring.com (brickbat8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09340; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 20:39:59 -0500 Received: from user-37kb972.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb972.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.226]) by brickbat8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA24834; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 20:39:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199704050139.UAA24834@brickbat8.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "James Seabolt" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Fri, 04 Apr 97 20:40:07 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 340 PS2 command gone Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Try holding down the F1 key on a cold boot & select configure->serial & disable the internal serial. The other thing is to get the uttpg? drivers from IBM & reinstall the PS/2 program. On Thu, 3 Apr 1997 17:00:00 -0500, James Seabolt wrote: >I have an IBM 340 Thinkpad. I am having to run Win3.11 because I only have 4 >MEG ram. I use this notebook for when I can't be at my desktop for E-mail >and Internet Access. > >I had been using a bulky 14.4 Haynes original designed for a desktop that I >had plugged into the COM1 port (kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it). > >I got tired of dragging it around so I bought a Winsurfer 28.8 modem that >plugs into the PCMCIA port. > >Then I had to track down the support software. Which I found on IBM's website. > >Now that everything is installed, I still can't use my modem because >Internet Explorer keeps detecting the slow 2400 baud modem on the COM2 port >and the 28.8 is supposed to be setup on the COM3 port. > >I tried to turn the modem off by using the PS2 command (PS2 IMODEM OF). But >the command is gone. I keep getting a "Bad command of filename" error. > >Is there anyway to get it back? I tried surfing IBM's website using "PS2" as >the keyword but none of those programs I downloaded did any good. > >Also, Where can I get the best deals on a 8 MEG upgrade for my laptop if I >want to upgrade to Windows 95? > >Thanks. > > > \\II// \\II// >___oOo___@ @___oOo___ ___oOo___@ @___oOo___ > (_) (_) >********************************************************************* >* James Seabolt Mailto:seabolt@tricon.net * >* United States Webpage: http://tricon.net/personal/seabolt * >* * >* * >* 1980 FIAT 2000 Spider (F.I.) summertime daily driver * >* 1981 FIAT X1/9 (F.I.) 200,000 miles and still going * >* 1981 FIAT 2000 Spider (Non runner) *for sale* * >* 1994 JEEP Wrangler (YJ) 2.5 liter , four banger * >* 1979 Snapper Hi-Vac (bone stock, save for Techumseh engine) * >* 1976 Chevrolet Pickup 454 Big Block (raw torque) * >* 1963 FORD Fairlane (just resting for the past 12 years) * >* * >********************************************************************* > > > > > > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 4 23:36:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA248604973; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 23:36:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20264; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 23:34:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Apr 1997 23:30:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19974; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 23:30:39 -0500 Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19955; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 23:30:36 -0500 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA22057 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 23:30:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 23:30:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <970404233002_1486026093@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Portable Printer for 365XD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I need some recommendations on portable printers for my Thinkpad 365XD. How often do you actually use it? What kind should I get? Is it a pain to lug around? Thanks, John From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 5 01:30:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA293301834; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:30:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26836; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:29:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:25:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26625; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:25:31 -0500 Received: from PhoneLink.COM (fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM [193.195.138.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26600; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:25:25 -0500 Received: from freemuda.prod.PhoneLink.COM by fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM id aa15606; 5 Apr 97 7:24 BST Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 06:24:45 BST From: Chaplin@emarkt.com Subject: RE:Portable Printer for 365XD To: , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <050497072411000C.Chaplin@emarkt.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I use both a Canon BJ10ex and a Diconic 150 Plus. Both are old machines but are ideal. The Diconix is smaller but the Canon produces a better print - excellent in my humble opinion. I think a similar model is still available - BJ30 or BJ70 for colour. Philip >I need some recommendations on portable printers for my Thinkpad 365XD. How >often do you actually use it? What kind should I get? Is it a pain to lug >around? > >Thanks, >John > chaplin@emarkt.com Please use philip.c@virgin.net for file attachments. -- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 5 01:49:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA003452954; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:49:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27853; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:47:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:44:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27574; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:44:11 -0500 Received: from ns.mounet.com (ns.mounet.com [206.151.76.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27564; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:44:06 -0500 Received: from [208.147.224.90] by ns.mounet.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/18Dec95-1202AM) id AA03371; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:42:26 -0500 Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:42:26 -0500 Message-Id: <9704050642.AA03371@ns.mounet.com> X-Sender: pinin@mounet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: James Seabolt Subject: New address Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If anyone tried to contact me about my PS2 command gone, I have changed service providers as of today in case your message may have bounced back. Sorry about that, but I work weird shifts and had to to it today or wait about 2 weeks. Anyway here's an update on my problem. I took my laptop to an office eqiptment repair shop and they couldn't even fix it! here's the current status. The guy told me he physically unhooked the 2400 modem but the winsock program still won't allow me to use my PCMCIA modem. I haven't used it yet, but he said that it will detect the modem but won't connect to my server. He said it was like the modem just didn't work. I am using Internet Explorer by the way. Any ideas? \\II// \\II// ___oOo___@ @___oOo___ ___oOo___@ @___oOo___ (_) (_) ********************************************************************* * James Seabolt Mailto:pinin@mounet.com * * United States * * * * * * 1980 FIAT 2000 Spider (F.I.) summertime daily driver * * 1981 FIAT X1/9 (F.I.) 200,000 miles and still going * * 1981 FIAT 2000 Spider (Non runner) *for sale* * * 1994 JEEP Wrangler (YJ) 2.5 liter , four banger * * 1979 Snapper Hi-Vac (bone stock, save for Techumseh engine) * * 1976 Chevrolet Pickup 454 Big Block (raw torque) * * 1963 FORD Fairlane (just resting for the past 12 years) * * * ********************************************************************* From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 5 22:59:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA204339163; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 22:59:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06920; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 22:58:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 5 Apr 1997 22:54:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06526; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 22:54:25 -0500 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06516; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 22:54:21 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out1.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA51423 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 03:54:18 GMT Message-Id: <199704060354.DAA51423@out1.ibm.net> Received: from adnline24065.adnc.com(206.251.240.65) by out1.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaC6kDM2; Sun Apr 6 03:54:05 1997 From: "Stephen Hosmer" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 05 Apr 97 19:38:50 +0800 Reply-To: "Stephen Hosmer" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Stephen Hosmer's Registered PMMail 1.9 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 750C For Sale Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a Thinkpad 750C for sale. It has 40Mb RAM. _______________________________________ Stephen Hosmer (hosmer@royl.com) Chief Financial Officer Royale Energy Inc. (NASDAQ: ROYL) http://www.royl.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 6 01:27:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA261138064; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 01:27:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15107; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 01:02:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 6 Apr 1997 00:59:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14574; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 00:59:26 -0500 Received: from holland.it.earthlink.net (holland-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.121]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14561; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 00:59:20 -0500 From: Received: from max2-ot-ca-27.earthlink.net (max2-ot-ca-27.earthlink.net [206.149.196.127]) by holland.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA01438 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 1997 21:55:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by max2-ot-ca-27.earthlink.net (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.9)/1.0um) id AA0016; Sat, 05 Apr 97 21:59:35 -0800 Message-Id: <9704060559.AA0016@max2-ot-ca-27.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 97 21:58:13 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: pkhoury@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <14_65_1_860295496> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone tried OS/2 Warp 4 with Voice Type Dictation on a ThinkPad 701 (DX4 version) with any success? Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 6 06:46:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA059043586; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 06:46:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07174; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 06:45:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 6 Apr 1997 06:42:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06936; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 06:42:26 -0400 Received: from brickbat8.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA06925; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 06:42:21 -0400 Received: from tomcat133 (ip89.princeton.nj.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.56.89]) by brickbat8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA19953 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 06:42:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970406063336.0073b634@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: dspeed@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 06:42:47 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Dave Speed Subject: Refurbished Thinkpads Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Can anybody share experiences with me on refurbished Thinpads ? Sources and warranty offered would be of interest. Dave From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 6 15:18:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA252324338; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 15:18:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10410; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 15:18:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 6 Apr 1997 15:14:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09995; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 15:14:56 -0400 Received: from relay.ins.net (root@popp.ins.de [192.129.55.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09985; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 15:14:52 -0400 From: Received: from news.mlc.de ([194.122.215.34]) by relay.ins.net (8.8.5/INS-1.5.1) with ESMTP id VAA28387 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 21:14:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from riscy.mlc.de (riscy.mlc.de [193.98.180.65]) by news.mlc.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00967 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 22:03:24 +0200 Received: from diddl by riscy.mlc.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA75781; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 21:03:29 +0200 Received: by diddl.mlc.de(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (274.9 11-27-1996)) id 41256471.006DFB1B ; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 21:01:17 +0100 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: MLC RATINGEN To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <41256471.006DF926.00@diddl.mlc.de> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 19:59:12 +0100 Subject: Re: NT audio Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I'm using a TP760EL and had exactly the same problem. I installed the original NT drivers (from the NT CD, in something like \drvlib\audio\ess), and everything seems to work OK (even after suspend/resume). Stefan Tilkov st@mlc.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 6 22:26:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA127539965; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 22:26:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08192; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 22:25:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 6 Apr 1997 22:21:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07909; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 22:21:30 -0400 Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07886; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 22:21:23 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA08933 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 22:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09893; Sun, 6 Apr 97 22:26:16 EDT Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 22:26:15 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@mak To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: trackpoint caps? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know if IBM still charges a $10-$15 shipping and handling fee on top of the $5 charge for 3 trackpoint caps? If they still do, are people interested in doing another group order so we can amortize that cost over several dozen people? (Keep in mind this is an improvement - they used to be $15 for 3. I wrote a rather colorful diatribe on this excess two years ago.) -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 00:16:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA174196594; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 00:16:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16836; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 00:14:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 00:09:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16305; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 00:09:48 -0400 Received: from cyberplus.ca (cyberplus.ca [204.191.105.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16294; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 00:09:44 -0400 Received: from default ([204.191.105.103]) by cyberplus.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA00012 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 00:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704070409.AAA00012@cyberplus.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc. To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 00:08:10 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: new member intro Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Just joining; have a 701 butterfly 75 Mhz, with 24Mb RAM, 540 Mb disk, dualscan display, IBM PCMCIA CD-Rom. My wife has a 340. Was running win 3.1 & OS/2 warp, but have switched to win95 because of the apps available & power management support. I've used it mainly for interviews - I'm a systems analyst w/ Systemhouse in Ottawa. I keep it on my lap & it doesn't intimidate the people. One note of interest - the "Chateau Tremblant" Canadian Pacific hotel in the ski area of the same name in Quebec is using networked thinkpads for check in & out. Tom Thanks, Tom _________________ Tom Trottier, tom@act.ca +1 613 594-4829 fax 594-8944 199 Holmwood Ave Ottawa ON Canada K1S 2P3 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 00:17:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA174416619; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 00:16:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17074; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 00:15:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 00:13:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16665; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 00:13:30 -0400 Received: from barney.usu.edu (barney.usu.edu [129.123.1.89]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16633; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 00:13:23 -0400 Received: from cc.usu.edu by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IHEG1P2NPS90NALM@cc.usu.edu>; Sun, 06 Apr 1997 22:13:17 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 22:13:17 -0600 (MDT) From: GREG ALVANDIAN Subject: Re: New IBM 701CS owner In-Reply-To: <01BC4110.F66927A0@ppp-mia3-100.bridge.net> To: "Geovanny M. Ortiz" Cc: "'THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU'" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There is more than one version of the FaxWorks Program on the IBM site. Be sure that you got the one that is specifically for the 701's. I formatted my hard drive and installed Win 95 and then downloaded the 701 version of FaxWorks from IBM and have had no problems with it what-so-ever. Be sure you chnange back the commdrv= line in the sys.ini file that faxworks changed. On Fri, 4 Apr 1997, Geovanny M. Ortiz wrote: > I recently purchased an IBM Thinkpad 701CS from IBM credit. Upon arrival of my new computer, I formatted the hard drive to get rid of preinstalled software and installed Windows 95. Everything worked well except my modem. The machine specifications state that the computer has speakerphone capabilities, but the Windows 95 software I installed only detected data and fax capabilities. I also tried Windows 3.11 software with no luck. After several other ideas I posted a message on IBM's AOL forum and a tech answer saying that I needed to use the special version of Faxworks that came with the computer. I downloaded the program from IBM's website and installed it only to run into more problems. First, Faxworks would case a GPF every time I tried to run it and second, Faxworks adds its own comm.drv to the INI files disabling my dial-up connections. > > If you have heard or come across a solution to my problem, please e-mail me, (o-n-a@bridge.net), at your earliest convinience. > > Thank you. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- GREGORY ALVANDIAN : Pooh looked at his two paws. He knew that : one of them was the right, and he knew SOCIETY OF AVIATION : that when you had decided which one of MAINTENANCE PROFESSIONALS : them was the right, then the other one was : was the left, but he never could remember UTAH STATE UNIVERSITY : how to begin. slppj@cc.usu.edu : -The Tao of Pooh. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 09:46:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA110840797; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 09:46:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03226; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 09:45:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 09:41:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02842; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 09:41:09 -0400 Received: from Mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02831; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 09:41:03 -0400 Received: from runngdog.pr.mcs.net (runngdog.pr.mcs.net [205.164.4.46]) by Mailbox.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id IAA24592 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 08:40:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: by runngdog.pr.mcs.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC432F.53BC3B20@runngdog.pr.mcs.net>; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 08:40:20 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC432F.53BC3B20@runngdog.pr.mcs.net> From: Dane Tyson To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Unsubscribe Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 07:51:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My apologies to all for this "administrative" message. I've lost my = instructions for unsubscribing to this list. Could list manager please = send these again or unsubscribe me. Thanks, Dane Tyson From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 10:00:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA117281623; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:00:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04629; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 09:59:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 09:56:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04324; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 09:56:09 -0400 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk (mail-a.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04313; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 09:56:03 -0400 Received: from [128.40.81.204] (actually host mouse.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 14:55:17 +0100 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 15:04:03 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: IBM VoiceType Dictation 1.32 on IBM Thinkpad 750Cs Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is anyone else using IBM VoiceType Dictation 1.32 on IBM Thinkpad 750Cs? This is the version of IBM's voice recognition product which utilized an outboard processor (PCMCIA card + "pigtail") to do DSP signal processing before forwarding phonemes to slow processors with less performance than a 90 MHz Pentium. It seems to work pretty well. But, I would be quite interested in discussing capabilities of this system with other users. Cheers, A J Annala, Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 10:58:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA144185091; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:58:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11026; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:57:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:52:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10456; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:52:15 -0400 Received: from osceola.gate.net (root@osceola.gate.net [199.227.0.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10445; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:52:11 -0400 Received: from tequesta.gate.net (root@tequesta.gate.net [199.227.0.12]) by osceola.gate.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA292280; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:52:17 -0400 Received: from localhost.gate.net (mgilula@seminole.gate.net [199.227.0.14]) by tequesta.gate.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA53060; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:52:12 -0400 Received: by localhost.gate.net (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA00302; Mon, 7 Apr 97 10:52:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:52:08 -0400 (GMT-0400) From: "Marshall F. Gilula" To: chaplin@emarkt.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: IBM's Simply Speaking voice recognition software Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu or similar products....here's my quick answer from a friend who is smarter than I am. -73- Marshall I have never heard of that software, but I have tried others that do the same..... I was not impressed.... We are a few years out from that.... the problem with voice recognition is that it takes tremendous amount of CPU time, so it would LAG on the conversions, which would force you to talk slower than you normally would...... And sometimes have to stop and wait for it to finish the conversions. We need faster processors..... 500Mhz+ CPUs should be out in 1999 with the Merced Processor from Intel.... Going to be a true 64-bit (RISC) CPU, not these plain old 32-bit (CISC) CPUs. It will also be backward x86 compatible. Which means that all our old software will still work..... Microsoft is also working on a 64bit version NT to be released at the same time. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 11:02:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA145695347; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:02:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11600; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:00:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:57:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11063; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:57:26 -0400 Received: from zorro.bctel.ca (zorro.bctel.ca [204.174.64.65]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11046; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:57:16 -0400 Received: from default (vanc01m06-132.bctel.ca [207.102.216.132]) by zorro.bctel.ca (8.8.4/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA14560; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 07:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970406221720.007a6100@mail.bctel.ca> X-Sender: a1a29726@mail.bctel.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 22:17:20 -0700 To: , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: "David S. Crombie" Subject: Re: Portable Printer for 365XD In-Reply-To: <970404233002_1486026093@emout18.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a 365 XD and I use/carry a Canon BJC-70. It is portable, quite small (for a regular Bubble Jet Printer), and seemed to be the best value for my money. I have had it for about 1 year and have had no problems. I compared this model to the HP model, and found that I made the right choice. It also has an optional battery pack but I do not use that. The only downside is that it does have a somewhat bulky AC adapter/cord. I paid $499 CDN, it's down to $349CDN now. Hope this helps a bit... At 11:30 PM 4/4/97 -0500, Disneyjazz@aol.com wrote: >I need some recommendations on portable printers for my Thinkpad 365XD. How >often do you actually use it? What kind should I get? Is it a pain to lug >around? > >Thanks, >John > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 11:20:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA155016413; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:20:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13714; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:18:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:15:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13357; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:15:39 -0400 Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13323; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:15:29 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA15364 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:31:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12545; Mon, 7 Apr 97 10:36:02 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA05072 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:36:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:36:00 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle Reply-To: John Kim To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <01BC432F.53BC3B20@runngdog.pr.mcs.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Dane Tyson wrote: > My apologies to all for this "administrative" message. I've lost my > instructions for unsubscribing to this list. Could list > manager please send these again or unsubscribe me. Hint for anyone who ever forgets how to unsubscribe to a mailing list: If you turn on full headers to a mailing list message, there is usually a line that says something like: Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu which is especially important in this case since I believe Keith Moore, our list admin, hasn't owned a Thinkpad in a while, and doesn't subscribe to the list. -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 12:28:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA190990488; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:28:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22585; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:26:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:24:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22238; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:24:03 -0400 Received: from netcom3.netcom.com (phr@netcom3.netcom.com [192.100.81.103]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22224; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:23:57 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom3.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA29457; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 09:23:53 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 09:23:53 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199704071623.JAA29457@netcom3.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: trackpoint caps Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Last time I checked, the shipping/handling charge was $7.50 regardless of quantity, and caps were $5 for three. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 12:39:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA195861169; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:39:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20429; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:13:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:04:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18873; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:04:02 -0400 Received: from cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us (cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us [198.109.120.98]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18856; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:03:53 -0400 Received: from escribaj.mlc.lib.mi.us (libpc129.det.hfh.edu [150.198.248.129]) by cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us (8.8.5/Merit) with ESMTP id MAA20270; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:03:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704071603.MAA20270@cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us> From: "Joseph Escribano" To: , "Dave Speed" Subject: Re: Refurbished Thinkpads Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:05:33 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ---------- | From: Dave Speed | To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu | Subject: Refurbished Thinkpads | Date: Sunday, April 06, 1997 6:42 AM | | | Can anybody share experiences with me on refurbished Thinpads ? | | Sources and warranty offered would be of interest. See http://mer.shop.ibm.com/shopping/ibmcredit/menu1.htm -- Joe | | Dave From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 14:28:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA243357716; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 14:28:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21492; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:17:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:12:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20152; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:12:40 -0400 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20133; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:12:33 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA693631 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 16:12:24 GMT Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 16:12:24 GMT Message-Id: <199704071612.QAA693631@out2.ibm.net> Received: from slip129-37-180-244.bc.ca.ibm.net(129.37.180.244) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smajOEDFW; Mon Apr 7 16:11:47 1997 X-Sender: szivos@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Geza Szivos Subject: Re: Portable Printer for 365XD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is thee ANY portable printer with InfraRed I/O ? Since I have two port on my 760CD , I don't waht to carry a Parallel Cable too. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geza Szivos Systems Engineer, SIVCO Inc. BESTeam and TEAMOS2 Member Certified IBM OS/2 Engineer, Certified Warp Server Engineer, Certified VisualAge for C++ Object Oriented Developer, Cerified DB/2 Developer and VisualWarehouse Specialist Tel: (403)-850-4500 FAX: (403)-547-4741 Szivos@ibm.net TalkLink:lnk9094 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 14:35:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA246648124; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 14:35:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20425; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:13:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:09:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19491; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:08:59 -0400 Received: from doblegate.doble.com (doblegate.doble.com [204.215.186.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19472; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:08:53 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 3490cf50; Mon, 7 Apr 97 11:04:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:02:52 -0400 Message-Id: <3490cf50@doblegate.doble.com> Subject: 365ED Questions (LCD, vs 365XD, etc) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I recently got a sick 365ED (Needs a new LCD). I have a few questions. 1. IBM does not seem to sell just the panels. Is there a place that may have the Sharp LM64C35P I need? 2. How does the 100 MHz Cyrix 586 compare with a Pentium? I am replacing a 33 MHz 486SLC and wonder if I should have gotten the low end 365XD with the Pentium instead. 3. Who do you like the 365ED. I mainly need the Laptop for basic communications and to run Map software with voice output. Any experiences with OS/2 and Windows 95 operation would be appeciated. I used a 750C in the past. 4. Can I only get the external Floppy from IBM? It seems the connector is special and wonder if I could adapt an external floppy drive? 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com -or- eac@shore.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 14:47:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA253108819; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 14:46:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14672; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:25:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:21:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13995; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:21:15 -0400 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13984; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:21:08 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA29979 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:17:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0573; Mon, 07 Apr 97 11:16:41 -0700 Message-Id: <9704071816.AA0573@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 641FED6F44138ADE8525647200522B9F; Mon, 7 Apr 97 11:16:39 EDT To: Dave Speed Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 7 Apr 97 11:16:36 EDT Subject: Re: Refurbished Thinkpads X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "... Can anybody share experiences with me on refurbished Thinpads ? ..." ~~~~~ yes, i much prefer them to the old, bulky thikpads. : ) when we were buying thinkpads, we were buying refurbs almost exclusively. big price break vs. buying new. exact same 3-year warranty from date of purchase as if they were new. availability is often actually better than new because the models a couple steps down from the latest & greatest are always in high demand & show up more often as refurbs at the outlet than new at ibm sales. the downside is that they haven't always actually *been* refurbished, so 1 in 3 has a problem that needs fixing. fortunately, in my experience, ezserv never takes more than 3 or 4 days to fix them & get them back to me. as always, your mileage may vary. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . We've all heard that a million monkeys banging a million typewriters will eventually produce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we all know this is not true. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 16:37:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA012105439; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 16:37:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16787; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 16:36:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 16:32:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16201; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 16:32:55 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16167; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 16:32:45 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA09495; Mon, 7 Apr 97 10:32:42 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA23885; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:33:36 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199704072033.KAA23885@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Portable Printer for 365XD To: szivos@ibm.net (Geza Szivos) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 97 10:33:31 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199704071612.QAA693631@out2.ibm.net>; from "Geza Szivos" at Apr 7, 97 4:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Is thee ANY portable printer with InfraRed I/O ? I believe that the Ciotizen PN60 comes in a (more expensive) infrared version (look for PN60i, or some such). The problem with this printer (and *all* ultraportable printers that I know of) is that the media cost (they tend to use either special paper or special ink) is very high. (This may not be true for larger printers like the Canon, but if you're unwilling to carry a cable then you're probably not interested in this size printer.) - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 17:25:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA034588301; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 17:25:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22457; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 17:23:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 17:21:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22133; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 17:21:03 -0400 Received: from mailhub.iastate.edu (mailhub.iastate.edu [129.186.1.102]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22123; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 17:20:58 -0400 Received: from default.iastate.edu (arritt.agron.iastate.edu [129.186.20.123]) by mailhub.iastate.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26490 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 16:20:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970407162019.006e92e8@pop-3.iastate.edu> X-Sender: rwarritt@pop-3.iastate.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 16:20:37 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Raymond Arritt Subject: TP 701 battery gauge Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The battery gauge on my Thinkpad 701C always reads 0 (zero) percent regardless of how much the battery is really charged up. IBM Support says this is because I have a NiMH battery and the BIOS only knows about NiCads. I'm a bit skeptical, because it always reads zero on the old NiCad also -- Support's explanation was "you have an old NiCad battery that's probably dead." Does this ring a bell with anyone? The problem *may* have cropped up after flashing the BIOS to version 3O, but I don't recall the sequence of events closely enough to say for sure. Alternately, are there any third-party utilities that will give a reliable charge indication? We use this machine for field work so we really need to know whether the battery is good -- we won't always be near AC power if the battery is flat. Thanks for any help. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 17:55:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA049650100; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 17:55:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25055; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 17:53:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 17:48:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24490; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 17:48:51 -0400 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24480; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 17:48:45 -0400 Received: from cais.cais.com (rj@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/cais-andrew-jdf) with SMTP id RAA17371; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 17:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 17:48:32 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: Raymond Arritt Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701 battery gauge In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970407162019.006e92e8@pop-3.iastate.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've had what would appear to be the same problem and IBM has replaced the NiMH battery twice, maybe thrice - I don't recall at the moment. The problem is each time I call I get a different rep. and frequently a different answer for the same problem and I recall this happening with the battery problem. I would suggest you call again and see if you get a different reply. BTW, IBM only warrants the battery for 1 year ( it's the computer sans battery that has 3 years, not to mention 90 days for OS help). Hope this helps. On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Raymond Arritt wrote: > The battery gauge on my Thinkpad 701C always reads 0 (zero) percent > regardless of how much the battery is really charged up. IBM Support > says this is because I have a NiMH battery and the BIOS only knows > about NiCads. I'm a bit skeptical, because it always reads zero on > the old NiCad also -- Support's explanation was "you have an old > NiCad battery that's probably dead." > > Does this ring a bell with anyone? The problem *may* have cropped up > after flashing the BIOS to version 3O, but I don't recall the sequence > of events closely enough to say for sure. > > Alternately, are there any third-party utilities that will give a > reliable charge indication? We use this machine for field work so > we really need to know whether the battery is good -- we won't always > be near AC power if the battery is flat. > > Thanks for any help. > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 18:58:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA077213929; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:58:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00455; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:57:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:54:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00106; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:54:25 -0400 Received: from saturn.darcars.net (michael@saturn.darcars.net [207.153.85.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29992; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:54:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by saturn.darcars.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA15466; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:54:13 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:54:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Cummings To: Raymond Arritt Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701 battery gauge In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970407162019.006e92e8@pop-3.iastate.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Raymond Arritt wrote: > The battery gauge on my Thinkpad 701C always reads 0 (zero) percent > regardless of how much the battery is really charged up. IBM Support > says this is because I have a NiMH battery and the BIOS only knows > about NiCads. I'm a bit skeptical, because it always reads zero on > the old NiCad also -- Support's explanation was "you have an old > NiCad battery that's probably dead." Well I have 2 NiMH batteries for my 701 and both of then show just fine on the gauge. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 20:31:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA117699513; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 20:31:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02877; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 19:31:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 19:28:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02595; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 19:28:40 -0400 Received: from mail2a.pilot.net (mail2a.pilot.net [198.232.147.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02561; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 19:28:33 -0400 Received: from ima.jud.ca.gov (unknown-8-248.jud.state.ca.us [206.81.8.248]) by mail2a.pilot.net with SMTP id QAA19287; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 16:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccMail by ima.jud.ca.gov (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00003711; Mon, 7 Apr 97 15:23:42 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 15:23:25 -0700 Message-Id: <00003711.1225@jud.ca.gov> From: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov (Mitchell Yee) To: Raymond Arritt , Michael Cummings Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[2]: TP 701 battery gauge Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.228154068" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the remainder, you will need to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.228154068 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Ditto that remark. I think Ezserve is feeding you a line. Mitchell ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: TP 701 battery gauge Author: Michael Cummings at Internet Date: 4/7/97 6:54 PM On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Raymond Arritt wrote: > The battery gauge on my Thinkpad 701C always reads 0 (zero) percent > regardless of how much the battery is really charged up. IBM Support > says this is because I have a NiMH battery and the BIOS only knows > about NiCads. I'm a bit skeptical, because it always reads zero on > the old NiCad also -- Support's explanation was "you have an old > NiCad battery that's probably dead." Well I have 2 NiMH batteries for my 701 and both of then show just fine on the gauge. --IMA.Boundary.228154068 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from mail-oak-3.pilot.net (198.232.147.18) by ima.jud.ca.gov with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 000036F6; Mon, 7 Apr 97 14:58:38 -0700 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by mail-oak-3.pilot.net with SMTP id QAA20027 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 16:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00459; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:57:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:54:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00106; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:54:25 -0400 Received: from saturn.darcars.net (michael@saturn.darcars.net [207.153.85.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29992; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:54:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by saturn.darcars.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA15466; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:54:13 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 18:54:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Cummings To: Raymond Arritt cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701 battery gauge In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970407162019.006e92e8@pop-3.iastate.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --IMA.Boundary.228154068-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 21:58:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA159034730; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 21:58:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13031; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 21:57:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 21:54:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12779; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 21:54:36 -0400 Received: from shell.istar.ca (shell.iSTAR.ca [204.191.213.253]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12768; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 21:54:30 -0400 Received: from inforamp.net (InfoRamp.net [204.191.136.8]) by shell.istar.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA14314 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 21:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ts29-07.tor.iSTAR.ca (ts29-07.tor.iSTAR.ca [204.191.149.230]) by inforamp.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA05035 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 22:53:58 -0300 (ADT) Message-Id: <199704080153.WAA05035@inforamp.net> X-Sender: valliant@inforamp.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 21:52:14 -0400 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: valliant@micomtech.com (Hugh Valliant) Subject: Cloning/Upgrading Hard Drives - How to - Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My mailbox overfloweth !!!! from my post of a few days ago on the above subject. I never expected such a response. Due to the large number of requests, (over 75) I've decided to send it to the list. Sorry if this offends anyone. Upgrading ThinkPad 750, 755 with no 2nd hard drive capability 1. Back up old hard drive (for insurance) 2. Create a Win95 bootable floppy disk,=20 3. Add FDISK, FORMAT to the bootable disk 4. Put new hard drive into 2nd computer 5. Make new hard drive bootable using bootable floppy 6. On the old computer backup the long file names using DOSLFNBK C:\ (obtain from www.windows95.com, etc) 7. Install LapLink on both computers (if necessary) 8. Connect both computers with the LapLink cables 9. Set LapLink options as include lower level subdirectories show hidden/system files=85.VERY IMPORTANT !!!!! apply options to both windows 10. Copy ALL files over to the new hard drive. Pay particular=20 attention to IBMDOS, etc files. Copy as needed 11. Restore long file names on the new hard drive using DOSLFNBK C:\ /R 12. The last step will restore the new hard drive to an exact=20 likeness of the first hard drive. That's it!!! Good Luck to all Any questions, please e-mail or phone me. Hugh =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D =20 MI-COM Technology =20 Computer Solutions for Small Business Helping you access and travel the Information Highway Hugh A. Valliant Bus. (416) 726-5355 Fax. (416) 699-3847 Internet valliant@micomtech.com http://www.micomtech.com/~valliant/=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 7 22:28:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA171496480; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 22:28:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15470; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 22:27:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Apr 1997 22:24:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15160; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 22:24:43 -0400 Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15149; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 22:24:39 -0400 Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA31026; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 22:23:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 22:23:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: John Kim Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: trackpoint caps? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Their boulder parts center has changed its shipping charges. Standard service is 5-7 business days and there is NO shipping charge for anything. Rush service, (next business day delivery) is something like $4.40 for the first 5 pounds, then a sliding scale for everything above that. I ordered a port replicator II from them last week, and the total shipping was $4.40, and I received it the very next day after my call. On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, John Kim wrote: > Does anyone know if IBM still charges a $10-$15 shipping and handling > fee on top of the $5 charge for 3 trackpoint caps? > > If they still do, are people interested in doing another group order > so we can amortize that cost over several dozen people? > > (Keep in mind this is an improvement - they used to be $15 for 3. > I wrote a rather colorful diatribe on this excess two years ago.) > -- > John H. Kim > kim@mak.com > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 8 06:07:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA066034047; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 06:07:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22359; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 06:06:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Apr 1997 06:03:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22116; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 06:03:17 -0400 Received: from mail.physics.ox.ac.uk (mail.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.244.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA22099; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 06:03:08 -0400 Received: from pc138.physics.ox.ac.uk (pc138.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.240.208]) by mail.physics.ox.ac.uk id LAA00798; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 11:02:31 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199704081002.LAA00798@mail.physics.ox.ac.uk> From: "Geoff Hogan" To: "Geza Szivos" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Tue, 08 Apr 97 11:02:34 Reply-To: "Geoff Hogan" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Portable Printer for 365XD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 7 Apr 1997 16:12:24 GMT, Geza Szivos wrote: >Is thee ANY portable printer with InfraRed I/O ? >Since I have two port on my 760CD , I don't waht to carry a Parallel Cable too. The Hewlett Packard DeskJet 340 CBi is the version with an IR option (in the UK). Its portable, though much larger than some of the ultra lightweight printers. The printer itself performs reasonably well (but I haven't tried the IR version), though I am led to believe that the colour printing is not as good as the Canon BJC 70. Just for the record (and in case anyone has the ear of HP or can come up with any suggestions) I'm not best pleased with HP at the moment having bought the DeskJet 690c to use with my TP (755cx) because it was advertized (both by the retailers and in its own manual) as being OS/2 compatible and photo printing capable. However, since there are still no OS/2 drivers available from either HP or IBM (after many (charged) phone calls, web sites and a BBS) and consequently I am unable to make use of the photo print cartridge and photo paper I bought with it at vast cost (though I can manage basic printing tasks). Both HP and IBM assign responsibility for the drivers to the other, and the European HP customer relations centre (or whatever it calls itself) has yet to reply to my letter asking what they mean by OS/2 compatible (the same adjective they use for MS Windows), nearly a month later. I have to say, though, that this is my first bad experience with HP. Geoff --------------------------------------------------------------- Dr G P Hogan Laser Group, Clarendon Lab., Tel: +44 1865 272205 Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3PU Fax: +44 1865 272400 UK Email: g.hogan@physics.ox.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 8 13:25:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA250980354; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:25:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03465; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:22:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:16:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02884; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:16:05 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu (rho.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02873; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:15:59 -0400 Received: from ibmtp701c.lin.org ([128.97.149.251]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA27576 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 10:15:57 -0700 Received: by ibmtp701c.lin.org with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4406.12F0E140@ibmtp701c.lin.org>; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 10:17:33 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC4406.12F0E140@ibmtp701c.lin.org> From: Eddy Lin To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: TP 701 battery gauge Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 10:17:22 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have 2 NiMh and 1NiCd and the gauge works fine with all of them. My = NiCd is acting up though, I lose power when it's only 50% drained (most = of the time, I don't even have time to do a proper shutdown before it = goes into suspend mode). If you just flashed your BIOS, try to do it = again. I once had a problem where the computer wouldn't count the memory = when I turn it on after flashing the BIOS and flashing the BIOS over = again cleared the problem. If that doesn't work, I would have IBM check = the computer. Eddy Lin -----Original Message----- From: Raymond Arritt [SMTP:rwarritt@iastate.edu] Sent: Monday, April 07, 1997 2:21 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 701 battery gauge The battery gauge on my Thinkpad 701C always reads 0 (zero) percent regardless of how much the battery is really charged up. IBM Support says this is because I have a NiMH battery and the BIOS only knows about NiCads. I'm a bit skeptical, because it always reads zero on the old NiCad also -- Support's explanation was "you have an old NiCad battery that's probably dead." Does this ring a bell with anyone? The problem *may* have cropped up after flashing the BIOS to version 3O, but I don't recall the sequence of events closely enough to say for sure. Alternately, are there any third-party utilities that will give a reliable charge indication? We use this machine for field work so we really need to know whether the battery is good -- we won't always be near AC power if the battery is flat. Thanks for any help. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 8 13:58:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA268382310; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:58:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07979; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:57:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:54:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07569; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:54:21 -0400 Received: from post.queensu.ca (post.QueensU.CA [130.15.126.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07552; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:54:13 -0400 Received: from Cancer111.meds.QueensU.CA by post.queensu.ca (SMI-8.6/ccs9603) id NAA00892; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:55:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:55:08 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970408135309.45d74816@post.queensu.ca> X-Sender: gerlachj@post.queensu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jim Gerlach Subject: TP360 screen problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu We are having problems with the monochrome LCD display on my wife's ThinkPad 360. The lower half of the screen has evenly spaced vertical black lines across the entire width of the screen. These appear to be a couple of pixels wide and take up about 1/4 of the viewing area. When this initially happened it was possible to correct the problem by opening and closing the screen hinge a few times but now the problem seems to a become "permanent". I suspect the cable that runs from the system board to the display but am looking for HELP!!!! Questions: 1. Has anyone had similar problems and, if so, what was the solution? 2. Is it worth sending the machine in for repairs? (8 Mb RAM, 170 Mb drive) 3. How much would a repair run if it is worth repairing? 4. Has anyone attempted repairs on their won and, if so, are there any instructions available? Thanx for any help anyone can provide. we need this machine. Cheers, Jim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 8 14:11:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA276863096; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 14:11:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09436; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 14:09:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Apr 1997 14:05:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08928; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 14:05:36 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08897; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 14:05:26 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-07.usc.edu [128.125.223.151]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id LAA02472 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 11:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970408110637.0146c018@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 11:06:44 -0700 To: TP List From: Randy Whittle Subject: 560 HD Upgrade Opp'ty--Opinions? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello ThinkPadders... I stumbled across the following in a "For Sale" Newsgroup and was wondering if anyone had any opinion as to (a) Price on the deal and/or (b) compatibility of this drive with a TP 560. The way I see it, its almost half what PEP sells their 2.1 GB do-it-yourself drive for, and this one is true-blue IBM while theirs is a Toshiba (though I throw myself on the mercy of the list to determine whether this thing is actually "fully compatible" with the TP 560). Basically its a Travelstar 4LP. Here it is: > - IBM 2.1 gig > - 2.5 -12mm slim > - Model DTNA-22160 > - Manifacture date JAN 97 > - Fit all IDE notebook that require 12mm slimm > - Price $450 > We do not accept Credit Card > Add $20 For Shipping Fedex C.O.D Next day > $14 Two days > $7 Prepaid > > RMA policy: > All products is guaranteed against DOA, and warrenteed for one year > Repair or replace . All shipping fees if occur, is free of charge I asked some questions and here was his response: >Yes this drive is new size is 12mm >As for compatibility with the 560, I suggest to you to call IBM > >To verify if 12mm is ok, as for the interface that is no problem >All thinkpad take Extended IDE.. I did some poking around IBM's web site and came up with some interesting info, but nothing that *directly* says this drive works with the TP 560--in fact, this drive is meant to be sold to OEM's to put into their notebooks. Who knows whether IBM uses it in their own! The statement does say the Travelstars are made for "laptops, notebooks, and ThinkPads", so I have reason to be hopeful. But from what I've seen, it appears to be a good quality drive--but does it work in the 560? Here's some URL's for what I've found. All input is appreciated. http://www.almaden.ibm.com/storage/techsup/hddtech/dtna/dtnatek.htm http://www.storage.ibm.com/storage/oem/data/trav4lp.htm Thanks! ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 8 15:18:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA009697086; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:18:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18264; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:16:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:14:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17871; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:14:08 -0400 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17825; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:13:52 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id PAA22023 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:10:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3509; Tue, 08 Apr 97 15:09:41 -0700 Message-Id: <9704082209.AA3509@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 22072C73C502427F8525647300686CDE; Tue, 8 Apr 97 15:09:41 EDT To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 8 Apr 97 15:04:39 EDT Subject: toshiba listserv X-Lotus-Type: Memo w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu sorry for not getting back to you guys sooner. there was significant interest in setting up a list like this for toshiba laptops. it is in the works & it will be up next week. i'll send out the details when i get back in town on tuesday. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man that he didn't... didn't already have. (from America's debut album, Quadruple Negatives) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 8 16:01:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA037809661; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:01:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17629; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:11:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:06:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16796; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:06:53 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16738; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:06:45 -0400 Received: by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA13608; Tue, 8 Apr 97 09:05:33 HST From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <9704081905.AA13608@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: TP360 screen problems To: gerlachj@post.queensu.ca (Jim Gerlach) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 97 9:05:32 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19970408135309.45d74816@post.queensu.ca>; from "Jim Gerlach" at Apr 8, 97 1:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Jim wrote: > > We are having problems with the monochrome LCD display on my wife's ThinkPad > 360. The lower half of the screen has evenly spaced vertical black lines > across the entire width of the screen. These appear to be a couple of pixels > wide and take up about 1/4 of the viewing area. I had something like this happen to my 701 last summer (is your 360 TFT or DSN?), only on mine it I had horizontal lines on a strip along the right-hand edge. Eventuially it turned into a black band. IBM said it was a bad display and replaced it under warrantee, but I think what actually happened was that some of the video memory went bad. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 8 20:23:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA169965427; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 20:23:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12736; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 20:22:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Apr 1997 20:17:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12115; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 20:17:52 -0400 Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12100; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 20:17:46 -0400 Received: from default (ad66-056.compuserve.com [199.174.194.56]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA26517 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 17:15:18 -0700 Message-Id: <334ADB17.628@sprynet.com> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 19:56:07 -0400 From: "P. van Schijndel" Reply-To: pvanschi@sprynet.com Organization: Bowes Publishers Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: TP List Subject: IBM Thinkpad 365XD vs NEC Versa 2630CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Opinions on the better buy? I own a 365XD, but am having a tough time recommending it versus the NEC. The specs: IBM 365XD, Pentium 133 MHz, 8/40MB, 1.35 GB, Trackpoint, external floppy, internal 6x CD, 11.3 TFT, sound, 16-bit mono sound, 1 year IBM warranty, $C 3600 NEC Versa 2630CD, Pentium 133 MHz, 16/48MB, 1.44 GB, Touchpad, internal floppy, internal 10x CD, 12.1 DSTN, 2 MB video RAM, 16-bit stereo sound, 1 year NEC warranty, $C 3300. I am starting to question why I bought IBM (didn't know about the NEC at the time). Is there anything I'm overlooking with the IBM? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 8 21:15:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA196808549; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 21:15:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16604; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 21:14:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Apr 1997 21:12:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16441; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 21:12:28 -0400 Received: from cosmos.psc.sc.edu (cosmos.psc.sc.edu [129.252.32.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16431; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 21:12:25 -0400 Received: from echo.cosm.sc.edu (echo.cosm.sc.edu [129.252.40.14]) by cosmos.psc.sc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA06783; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 01:12:23 GMT Received: from localhost by echo.cosm.sc.edu (8.6.12) id BAA02458; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 01:12:17 GMT Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 21:12:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Waldemar Puszkarz Reply-To: Waldemar Puszkarz To: Michael Verne/VENTANA Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Refurbished Thinkpads/ How to claim warranty? In-Reply-To: <9704071816.AA0573@lgate.vmedia.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I just bought one from a reseller. The box it came in says that it is a reworked system. It came without a manual though :(. The right hand side track point button does not work :(. Apart from that, it seems to be OK. Now, how can I claim a warranty for it and the services that come with it. I received no warranty documents, but only a registration card. Was I shafted as far as warranty is concerned or can I still claim it? It was cheap, $975 including shipping (TP 701CS), and the reseller claimed that I could get a 1-year or 3-year warranty for it depending on the mood of the IBM bureocracy... Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Waldemar ----------------- Waldemar Puszkarz Waldemar's List: www.netservers.com/~waldemar/list.shtml On 7 Apr 1997, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: > "... Can anybody share experiences with me on refurbished Thinpads ? ..." > > ~~~~~ > yes, i much prefer them to the old, bulky thikpads. : ) > > when we were buying thinkpads, we were buying refurbs almost exclusively. big > price break vs. buying new. exact same 3-year warranty from date of purchase > as if they were new. availability is often actually better than new because > the models a couple steps down from the latest & greatest are always in high > demand & show up more often as refurbs at the outlet than new at ibm sales. > the downside is that they haven't always actually *been* refurbished, so 1 in 3 > has a problem that needs fixing. fortunately, in my experience, ezserv never > takes more than 3 or 4 days to fix them & get them back to me. > > as always, your mileage may vary. > > > Michael J. Verne > Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group > michael_verne@vmedia.com > http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > We've all heard that a million monkeys banging > a million typewriters will eventually produce the > entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the > Internet, we all know this is not true. > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 8 21:19:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA198298759; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 21:19:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16977; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 21:18:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Apr 1997 21:16:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16726; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 21:15:57 -0400 Received: from cosmos.psc.sc.edu (cosmos.psc.sc.edu [129.252.32.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16705; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 21:15:47 -0400 Received: from echo.cosm.sc.edu (echo.cosm.sc.edu [129.252.40.14]) by cosmos.psc.sc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA06810 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 01:15:46 GMT Received: from localhost by echo.cosm.sc.edu (8.6.12) id BAA02461; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 01:15:45 GMT Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 21:15:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Waldemar Puszkarz To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Manual for 701CS Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, any idea how expensive it is? Where can I buy it? What's the IBM phone # I should call to order it? Anyone would like to part with his/her own one for some reasonable price? Thanks, Waldemar ----------------- Waldemar Puszkarz Waldemar's List: www.netservers.com/~waldemar/list.shtml From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 02:49:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046118570; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 02:49:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10258; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 02:48:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 02:45:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10015; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 02:45:34 -0400 Received: from zorro.bctel.ca (zorro.bctel.ca [204.174.64.65]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10000; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 02:45:29 -0400 Received: from default (vanc01m03-143.bctel.ca [206.108.197.143]) by zorro.bctel.ca (8.8.4/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA28003; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 23:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704090644.XAA28003@zorro.bctel.ca> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "David S. Crombie" To: , "TP List" Subject: Re: IBM Thinkpad 365XD vs NEC Versa 2630CD Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 23:43:58 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BC4476.BACA96C0" X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC4476.BACA96C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am a 365XD owner - before this I had a 360C. To tell you the truth, I = have never looked at any other manufacturers other than IBM when it = comes to laptops. I find that they are the best made (feel, look, = components) compared to others. I also know that when it comes to = service they are (usually) second to none. I am more than happy to pay = a little extra to get that piece of mind. One other thing - remember that a TFT vs. DSTN makes a considerable = difference between machines in both cost and quality of screen. I would = never go back to a DSTN. _______________________________________ David S. Crombie dcrombie@bc.sympatico.ca dscrombi@aol.com ---- From: P. van Schijndel To: TP List Date: Tuesday, April 08, 1997 5:20 PM Subject: IBM Thinkpad 365XD vs NEC Versa 2630CD Opinions on the better buy? I own a 365XD, but am having a tough time recommending it versus the NEC.=20 The specs: IBM 365XD, Pentium 133 MHz, 8/40MB, 1.35 GB, Trackpoint, external floppy, internal 6x CD, 11.3 TFT, sound, 16-bit mono sound, 1 year IBM warranty, $C 3600 NEC Versa 2630CD, Pentium 133 MHz, 16/48MB, 1.44 GB, Touchpad, internal floppy, internal 10x CD, 12.1 DSTN, 2 MB video RAM, 16-bit stereo sound, 1 year NEC warranty, $C 3300. I am starting to question why I bought IBM (didn't know about the NEC at the time). Is there anything I'm overlooking with the IBM? ------=_NextPart_000_01BC4476.BACA96C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am a 365XD owner - before this I had a 360C. To tell you the = truth, I have=20 never looked at any other manufacturers other than IBM when it comes to = laptops.=20 I find that they are the best made (feel, look, components) compared to = others.=20 I also know that when it comes to service they are (usually) second to = none. I=20 am more than happy to pay a little extra to get that piece of mind.

 

One other thing - remember that a TFT vs. DSTN makes a considerable=20 difference between machines in both cost and quality of screen. I would = never=20 go back to a DSTN.

_______________________________________
David S. Crombie
dcrombie@bc.sympatico.ca
dscrombi@aol.com

----
From: P. van Schijndel <pvanschi@sprynet.com>
To: TP List <tp750@cs.utk.edu>
Date: Tuesday, April 08, 1997 5:20 PM
Subject: IBM Thinkpad 365XD vs NEC Versa 2630CD

Opinions on the better buy?  I own a = 365XD, but am=20 having a tough time
recommending it versus the NEC. 

The specs:

IBM 365XD, Pentium 133 MHz, 8/40MB, 1.35 GB, Trackpoint, external
floppy, internal 6x CD, 11.3 TFT, sound, 16-bit mono sound, 1 year = IBM
warranty, $C 3600

NEC Versa 2630CD, Pentium 133 MHz, 16/48MB, 1.44 GB, Touchpad, = internal
floppy, internal 10x CD, 12.1 DSTN, 2 MB video RAM, 16-bit stereo
sound,  1 year NEC warranty, $C 3300.

I am starting to question why I bought IBM (didn't know about the NEC = at
the time).  Is there anything I'm overlooking with the IBM?

 ------=_NextPart_000_01BC4476.BACA96C0-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 03:38:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA065771538; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 03:38:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14327; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 03:38:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 03:36:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14121; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 03:36:02 -0400 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem107.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14111; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 03:35:50 -0400 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id AAA00930; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 00:35:16 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 00:30:25 -0700 (PDT) From: derelict To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, linux-laptop@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: TP755CD apm fixed?! Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I noticed a few other people in the various lists mention that they had a thinkpad 755 that had problems with the apm not working correctly in both win95 and linux. I too had the same problems and just fixed it. For fun I decided to reset all my bios settings and redo my configuration. I believe that going into the ez setup menu (power on while holding down the F1key) I chose to reinitialize the bios to the default settings. Lo and behold, now my 'pad hibernates, suspends, and the whole nine. If you had these problems I suggest you try it too. -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 04:28:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA084714516; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 04:28:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18923; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 04:27:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 04:25:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18499; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 04:24:56 -0400 Received: from tor.abc.se (root@tor.abc.se [192.36.170.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18489; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 04:24:51 -0400 Received: from cpes (pm1-28 [192.36.170.47]) by tor.abc.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA14490 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:24:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by cpes with Microsoft Mail id <01BC44D0.22C73C20@cpes>; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:23:58 +-200 Message-Id: <01BC44D0.22C73C20@cpes> From: Peter Samuelson To: "'ThinkPad List'" Subject: "Recycled" harddisk Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 09:06:26 +-200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have some spare harddisks for a 755CE wich I would like to install in = my kids desktop. Maybe my question has been covered here before but = anyway: 1. Is the connector on the IBM harddisk a standard one ? I mean is it = just to hook it up on the present harddisk ? 2. Is the IBM disk set up as a master or slave and is it possible to = change that ? 3. How do I connect the powercord ? Regards, Peter Samuelson From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 05:27:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA107978037; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 05:27:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA25581; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 05:23:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 05:20:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24711; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 05:20:19 -0400 Received: from cosmos.psc.sc.edu (cosmos.psc.sc.edu [129.252.32.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24684; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 05:20:13 -0400 Received: from echo.cosm.sc.edu (echo.cosm.sc.edu [129.252.40.14]) by cosmos.psc.sc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA07777 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 09:20:05 GMT Received: from localhost by echo.cosm.sc.edu (8.6.12) id JAA00571; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 09:19:59 GMT Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 05:19:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Waldemar Puszkarz To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Any way to order TP accesories from IBM online? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, what I specifically mean is an international AC adapter for my 701CS that I have bought quite recently. I would like to know if there is any way to order this item online from IBM or at least to check out their prices. Just curious if I could get it cheaper from them than from other dealers. Yes, I visted their website, but could not find anything relevant. Perhaps I missed something... Thanks, Waldemar ----------------- Waldemar Puszkarz Waldemar's List: www.netservers.com/~waldemar/list.shtml From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 07:50:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA163366611; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:50:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07738; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:49:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:44:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07292; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:44:35 -0400 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07281; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:44:31 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id HAA04439 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA4330; Wed, 09 Apr 97 07:40:22 -0700 Message-Id: <9704091440.AA4330@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 72FEF31E0BE1772885256474003F37C8; Wed, 9 Apr 97 07:40:21 EDT To: Waldemar Puszkarz Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 9 Apr 97 7:38:55 EDT Subject: Re: Refurbished Thinkpads/ How to claim warranty? X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "... Now, how can I claim a warranty for it and the services that come with it. I received no warranty documents, but only a registration card. Was I shafted as far as warranty is concerned or can I still claim it? ..." ~~~~~ i have always thrown out all the warranty paperwork whenever i get laptops. your warranty isn't tied to the warranty card, it's tied to the serial number on the laptop. all you need to claim a warranty is a store receipt that shows the serial number. if you don't have a receipt, ibm will honor the warranty from the announcement date of the model you bought. for 701's this *should* be 3 years because i think all ibm's laptop announcements in the last few years had 3 year warranties, but i could be wrong. i've never bought a 701. call the helpcenter at 800.772.2227 and they should fix your mouse button. if you need to resort to the product announcement for a warranty date, not all the call takers have access to that information, so just tell them that their "one-point-five" (support level 1.5) can look it up in "hone." Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man that he didn't... didn't already have. (from America's debut album, Quadruple Negatives) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 07:55:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA165186916; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:55:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA08302; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:54:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:50:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07872; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:50:23 -0400 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07846; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:50:16 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id HAA04508 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA4352; Wed, 09 Apr 97 07:46:06 -0700 Message-Id: <9704091446.AA4352@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id C55F58B72CE19C078525647400400C92; Wed, 9 Apr 97 07:46:05 EDT To: Waldemar Puszkarz Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 9 Apr 97 7:41:25 EDT Subject: Re: Manual for 701CS X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "... any idea how expensive it is? Where can I buy it? What's the IBM phone # I should call to order it? ..." ~~~~~ they're usually about $20-30. the helpcenter can give you the part number. you may have to get the fru number from them & order it from boulder. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man that he didn't... didn't already have. (from America's debut album, Quadruple Negatives) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 10:41:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA233536867; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:41:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23360; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:39:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:36:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22977; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:36:18 -0400 Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22958; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:36:13 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA21326 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:36:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29281; Wed, 9 Apr 97 10:41:15 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA10839 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:41:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:41:14 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Any way to order TP accesories from IBM online? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Waldemar Puszkarz wrote: > Hi, > what I specifically mean is an international AC adapter for > my 701CS that I have bought quite recently. I would like to know if there > is any way to order this item online from IBM or at least to check out > their prices. I may be mistaken, but didn't the 701 ship with a 110-220Hz AC adapter? Check the fine print written on the back of your adapter. It you still need parts, http://direct.boulder.ibm.com Make sure you have something soft to faint onto when you see the prices. -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 15:34:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA061914451; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 15:34:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20763; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 15:32:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 15:27:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20252; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 15:27:13 -0400 Received: from kiaora.cc.columbia.edu (cu8264@kiaora.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20240; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 15:27:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (pm119@localhost) by kiaora.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA08942 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 15:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 15:27:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Paulo Magalhaes Sender: pm119@columbia.edu To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: 750C battery Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know of a source for batteries other than IBM? Is there some little known company selling wonderful new batteries?... I would really, really like to be able to work on my trusted 750C for over 2 hours without being dependent on the old wall... Thanks in advance for your information. -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 15:59:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA075105946; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 15:59:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23033; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 15:53:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 15:50:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22736; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 15:50:29 -0400 Received: from dogbert.xroads.com (dogbert.xroads.com [206.222.124.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22670; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 15:50:20 -0400 Received: from default (slip2.xroads.com [206.222.125.2]) by dogbert.xroads.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA22998; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:50:07 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <334BE643.4C55@xroads.com> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 12:56:03 -0600 From: Mark Goldstein Reply-To: Mark Goldstein Organization: International Research Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Cc: pm119@columbia.edu Subject: Aftermarket Battery Source Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From: Paulo Magalhaes >Does anyone know of a source for batteries other than IBM? >Is there some little known company selling wonderful new batteries?... I ?would really, really like to be able to work on my trusted 750C for over >2 hours without being dependent on the old wall... I recently had good luck acquiring some TP701 batteries from TruCost Enterprises. They carry some original manufacurer batteries as well as lines of replacements from Battery Technology, Port and Extend. Looks like your 750 NiMH should cost $130-150 from them. Web site at http://www.trucost.com/ot0906.html for a list of battery and chargers available. Good hunting! Regards, Mark Goldstein From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 16:44:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA099298658; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 16:44:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28049; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 16:42:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 16:39:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27603; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 16:39:39 -0400 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27575; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 16:39:32 -0400 Received: from earth (hseaman@earth [169.207.16.1]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA04171 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 15:39:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 15:39:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Harry Seaman X-Sender: hseaman@earth To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: hibernate/modem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm using a 750C and a megahertz x-jack 33.6 pcmcia fax modem, win95. Problem: If I gointo hibernate mode (function F12) and then resume, the modem will not work untill I do do a complete shutdown and restart. Any help or comments will be appreciated. Harry Seaman From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 17:11:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA112470295; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:11:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00973; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:10:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:01:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29880; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:01:00 -0400 Received: from Erich.Triumf.CA ([142.90.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29861; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:00:46 -0400 Received: from sfupc.Triumf.CA by Erich.Triumf.CA (MX V4.0-1 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 09 Apr 1997 13:57:15 PST Received: by sfupc.Triumf.CA with Microsoft Mail id <01BC44EE.B3CA0E00@sfupc.Triumf.CA>; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:02:46 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC44EE.B3CA0E00@sfupc.Triumf.CA> From: tisol To: "'Peter Samuelson'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: "Recycled" harddisk Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:02:44 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The HD connector is "standard" as far a 2.5' ide is concerned. The = adapter part to connect to the TP is their own little invention. Somewhere in the IBM web page (easy to find if they ever fix their = search engine)=20 you can find pinouts and master slave jumper positions. NOTE: the earlier ones up to and including(?) the 540MB had a different = default for master/slave. The 2.5' to 3.5' adapters have the power connector on the circuit board. Cost about $8 US and $12Cnd. ..peter.. ---------- From: Peter Samuelson[SMTP:pesam@abc.se] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 1997 2:06 AM To: 'ThinkPad List' Subject: "Recycled" harddisk I have some spare harddisks for a 755CE wich I would like to install in = my kids desktop. Maybe my question has been covered here before but = anyway: 1. Is the connector on the IBM harddisk a standard one ? I mean is it = just to hook it up on the present harddisk ? 2. Is the IBM disk set up as a master or slave and is it possible to = change that ? 3. How do I connect the powercord ? Regards, Peter Samuelson From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 17:49:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA130642592; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:49:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04698; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:48:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:45:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04449; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:45:54 -0400 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04439; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:45:50 -0400 Received: from cais.cais.com (rj@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/cais-andrew-jdf) with SMTP id RAA11929 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:45:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:45:46 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: PCMCIA Modems w/TP701 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I need to get a faster modem for my trusty 701. Any suggestions/advice on good, bad or whatever modems greatly appreciated. Thanks!!! PS If it matters it must be compatible with NT 4.0 as well as Win95 and Win3.1/DOS. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 17:53:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA132412836; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:53:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05238; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:51:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:48:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04714; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:48:40 -0400 Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04693; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:48:35 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA10068 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:15:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03385; Wed, 9 Apr 97 17:20:48 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA11651 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:20:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:20:46 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: hibernate/modem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Harry Seaman wrote: > I'm using a 750C and a megahertz x-jack 33.6 pcmcia fax modem, win95. > Problem: If I gointo hibernate mode (function F12) and then resume, the > modem will not work untill I do do a complete shutdown and restart. I think this is a bug in the 750's PCMCIA firmware. Try ejecting the card and reinserting. That always worked for me under OS/2, DOS, and Linux on my old 750. I dunno if it'll work with Win95 - it might throw a fit because you didn't shut the card down properly... -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 18:43:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA154385798; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 18:43:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09591; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 18:41:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 18:38:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09286; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 18:38:08 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09269; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 18:37:58 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA19544; Wed, 9 Apr 97 12:37:48 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA28838; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:38:44 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199704092238.MAA28838@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: PCMCIA Modems w/TP701 To: rj@cais.com (rj) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 97 12:38:42 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "rj" at Apr 9, 97 5:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I need to get a faster modem for my trusty 701. Any suggestions/advice > on good, bad or whatever modems greatly appreciated. Everyone will likely have an opinion on this. I've used both a Motorola Montana and an IBM "International" modem (made by TDK) on my 701; the former was wonderful and installed instantly and perfectly under W95, I could never get the latter to work on the 701 in W95. On the other hand, I've used the latter on a TP560 and a Micron with no probem, and it has one advantage: you can program in different carrier/ringer/busy signal detect algorithms for different countries. My inability to make it work on the 701 might have been my own incompetence (or my bad 701 karma). - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 18:49:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA157396185; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 18:49:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10116; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 18:47:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 18:45:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09801; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 18:45:00 -0400 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09790; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 18:44:54 -0400 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id SAA03267; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 18:38:39 -0400 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199704092238.SAA03267@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: hibernate/modem In-Reply-To: from John Kim at "Apr 9, 97 05:20:46 pm" To: kim@mak.com (John Kim) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 18:38:39 -0400 (EDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Harry Seaman wrote: > > > I'm using a 750C and a megahertz x-jack 33.6 pcmcia fax modem, win95. > > Problem: If I gointo hibernate mode (function F12) and then resume, the > > modem will not work untill I do do a complete shutdown and restart. The problem lies in the fact that the PCMCIA card is not re-initialized after resuming from hibernation. Ejecting and reinserting after resume should work, as John Kim mentioned. Shutting down the PCMCIA slots before hibernation also works, since the cards are auto-detected after a resume from hibernation. Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@vec.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu world rejoiced. Try to live your life Virtual Endoscopy Center so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 9 19:08:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA165207292; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:08:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12011; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:06:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:03:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11621; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:03:50 -0400 Received: from cosmos.psc.sc.edu (cosmos.psc.sc.edu [129.252.32.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11604; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:03:40 -0400 Received: from echo.cosm.sc.edu (echo.cosm.sc.edu [129.252.40.14]) by cosmos.psc.sc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA16129 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 23:03:37 GMT Received: from localhost by echo.cosm.sc.edu (8.6.12) id XAA02042; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 23:03:36 GMT Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:03:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Waldemar Puszkarz To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701 Windows3.11/OS2 switch problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I just got my laptop so please bear with me if this a FAQ. Here is the problem: switching from Windows to OS2 in the OS2 desktop mode causes the machine to stop and a whole bunch of numbers and other scary looking data appears on the screen. This ends with the statement: Call your representative. I guess the resolution is to get a newer BIOS or at least the IBM website says something to this effect in one of the TP tips adding that it's a common trap problem for this machine. Any idea if I am on the right track here? Here is the relevant pointer http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/tips/12658.html I am pretty verdant as far as OS2 is concerned and come across this information just hours ago. Perhaps there is some other bug I am not aware of that causes this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Waldemar From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 10 00:00:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA294584839; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 00:00:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04729; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 23:59:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 23:56:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04401; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 23:56:55 -0400 Received: from brickell.bridge.net (root@brickell.bridge.net [204.253.4.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04375; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 23:56:48 -0400 Received: from ppp-mia2-90.bridge.net (ppp-mia2-90.bridge.net [207.16.5.90]) by brickell.bridge.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA21353 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 23:56:45 -0400 Received: by ppp-mia2-90.bridge.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4541.69506B00@ppp-mia2-90.bridge.net>; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 23:54:50 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC4541.69506B00@ppp-mia2-90.bridge.net> From: "Geovanny M. Ortiz" To: "'Thinkpad Mail list'" Subject: 701 Pentium upgrade? Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 23:54:46 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I recently requested document #65084 from the IBM fax system = (800-426-3395) because the document's title was "Thinkpad 701 C/CS, = Related Features, Pentium Upgrade" I reviewed the document's part that = talks about the pentium upgrade, but is very confusing. Has anyone seen = this document, and/or is there really a Pentium upgrade for the 701's. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 10 04:55:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA121312538; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 04:55:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA26353; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 04:55:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Apr 1997 04:52:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25975; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 04:52:25 -0400 Received: from silserv.isr.umd.edu (silserv.isr.umd.edu [128.8.111.186]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25965; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 04:52:21 -0400 Received: from clueless.isr.umd.edu (clueless.isr.umd.edu [128.8.140.68]) by silserv.isr.umd.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA02952 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 04:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 04:52:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Narin Suphasindhu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: hibernate/modem In-Reply-To: <199704092238.SAA03267@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu :>> On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Harry Seaman wrote: :>> > Problem: If I gointo hibernate mode (function F12) and then resume, the :>> > modem will not work untill I do do a complete shutdown and restart. When you resume from hibernation, try using "PC Card Director" to turn on the PCMCIA cards. This works on my TP760ED. Cheers, -Narin From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 10 10:38:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA257053130; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:38:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26031; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:37:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:34:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25605; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:34:24 -0400 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (cu8264@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.132]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25585; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:34:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (pm119@localhost) by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA09092; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:34:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Paulo Magalhaes Sender: pm119@columbia.edu To: Tim Tyhurst Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 750C battery In-Reply-To: <199704092008.QAA26600@dogmead.excelsior.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Tim Tyhurst wrote: > > would really, really like to be able to work on my trusted 750C for over > > 2 hours without being dependent on the old wall... > > Could you tell me if your 750C runs when you plug it into the wall socket, > but without the battery installed? I had someone tell me that the 750 > series does not work at all without a battery. Not true. After ruining a couple of batteries, I now remove the battery every time I anticipate a long period (days, that is) of AC-only activity... The computer runs just fine. Now, with a dead battery installed, that is a different story: the computer will refuse to run... Go figure... -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 10 11:37:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA289426676; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:37:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01923; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:36:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:34:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01651; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:34:23 -0400 Received: from znet.com (jmarnold@sdts2-56.znet.com [207.167.64.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01639; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:34:15 -0400 Received: (from jmarnold@localhost) by znet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA05639; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:32:20 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:32:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199704101532.IAA05639@znet.com> From: "Jeffrey M. Arnold" To: "Geovanny M. Ortiz" Cc: "'Thinkpad Mail list'" Subject: 701 Pentium upgrade? In-Reply-To: <01BC4541.69506B00@ppp-mia2-90.bridge.net> References: <01BC4541.69506B00@ppp-mia2-90.bridge.net> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I looked at the document, and it is confusing. While most of the document deals with the features and options for the 701, the "pentium upgrade" discussion applies only to the 755CE/CSE/CD. I wish it were otherwise, but I'm afraid the 701 really is dead. Sorry to disappoint! -jeff "Geovanny M. Ortiz" writes: > I recently requested document #65084 from the IBM fax system > (800-426-3395) because the document's title was "Thinkpad 701 C/CS, > Related Features, Pentium Upgrade" I reviewed the document's part > that talks about the pentium upgrade, but is very confusing. Has > anyone seen this document, and/or is there really a Pentium upgrade > for the 701's. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 10 13:03:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA031091802; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:03:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11846; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:01:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Apr 1997 12:57:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11216; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 12:57:03 -0400 Received: from belize.it.earthlink.net (estonia-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11184; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 12:56:51 -0400 From: Received: from pool017-max2.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool017-max2.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.8.17]) by belize.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA20914 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 06:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pool017-max2.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.9)/1.0um) id AA0045; Thu, 10 Apr 97 06:25:09 -0700 Message-Id: <9704101325.AA0045@pool017-max2.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 97 06:21:50 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: pkhoury@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Email software for OS/2 X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <44_61_1_860667731> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know of a good OS/2-based email program for OS/2 that doesn't require a lot of system resources? I've had my ThinkPad lock-up lately while trying to download email. The worst part is, it makes a new directory and file entry for each email, which is NOT good on a mobile system. Regards, Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 10 13:09:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA034332169; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:09:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12613; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:08:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:04:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12117; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:04:56 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12105; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:04:52 -0400 Received: from ssh.noc.interop.net (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01458; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:06:37 -0600 Message-Id: <334D1D72.5B33E773@wwsi.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:03:46 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pkhoury@earthlink.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Email software for OS/2 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <9704101325.AA0045@pool017-max2.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The PostRoad Mailer is among the best OS/2 native mailers. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 10 13:24:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA041113096; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:24:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14203; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:24:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:21:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13969; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:21:56 -0400 Received: from TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU (tokeru.geology.washington.edu [128.95.79.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13958; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:21:51 -0400 Message-Id: <199704101721.NAA13958@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from tahini.geology.washington.edu by TOKERU.GEOLOGY.WASHINGTON.EDU with SMTP; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:21:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Victor Kress" To: "Thinkpad" Date: Thu, 10 Apr 97 09:22:22 +0500 Reply-To: "Victor Kress" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Victor Kress's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Email software for OS/2 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I really like PMmail, and I've been using it for years. PostRoadMailer is good to, but I thought the interface is too flashy. PRM is bigger and more expensive, as I remember, but you should check this. You w with either. Nobody on Earth likes UltimailLite. On Thu, 10 Apr 97 06:21:50 +0000, pkhoury@earthlink.net wrote: >Does anyone know of a good OS/2-based email program for OS/2 that >doesn't require a lot of system resources? I've had my ThinkPad >lock-up lately while trying to download email. The worst part is, it >makes a new directory and file entry for each email, which is NOT >good on a mobile system. > >Regards, > >Paul Khoury >pkhoury@earthlink.net ________________________________ Victor Kress Geological Sciences Box 351310 University of Washington Seattle, Washington 98195-1310 (206)616-8512 kress@u.washington.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 10 13:48:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA051714496; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:48:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16190; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:46:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:43:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15854; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:43:52 -0400 Received: from mail.physics.ox.ac.uk (mail.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.244.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15844; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:43:46 -0400 Received: from pc138.physics.ox.ac.uk (pc138.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.240.208]) by mail.physics.ox.ac.uk id SAA23758; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 18:43:09 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199704101743.SAA23758@mail.physics.ox.ac.uk> From: "Geoff Hogan" To: "pkhoury@earthlink.net" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 10 Apr 97 18:43:13 Reply-To: "Geoff Hogan" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Email software for OS/2 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I use PMMail (obtainable from Southsoft directly or, like much good OS/2 shareware, BMT micro - URLs available if for some reason you haven't got them). I have used it almost as long as I have been using OS/2 (which isn't all that long) and am very pleased with it. Being shareware you can try before you buy, too. Geoff --------------------------------------------------------------- Dr G P Hogan Laser Group, Clarendon Lab., Tel: +44 1865 272205 Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3PU Fax: +44 1865 272400 UK Email: g.hogan@physics.ox.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 10 14:59:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA084098759; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 14:59:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23695; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 14:58:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Apr 1997 14:54:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23040; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 14:54:16 -0400 Received: from baker.cnw.com (root@baker.cnw.com [206.40.133.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23029; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 14:54:09 -0400 Received: from cnw.com (dyn-128-52.mtvernon.cnw.net [207.149.128.52]) by baker.cnw.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA19659; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704101852.LAA19659@baker.cnw.com> From: Vicky Stables Date: Thu, 10 Apr 97 11:24:05 -0700 To: , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9704101325.AA0045@pool017-max2.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Email software for OS/2 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.26 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In <9704101325.AA0045@pool017-max2.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net>, on 04/10/97 at 06:21 AM, said: > Does anyone know of a good OS/2-based email program for OS/2 that > doesn't require a lot of system resources? Paul, I'll make a strong recommendation for MR/2 ICE. Check it out at http://nick.secant.com/mr2ice.htm MR/2 ICE was recently voted the best E-Mail client in OS/2 eZine Readers' Choice Awards. It is shareware and only $30, yet it includes a spell checker, thesaurus and all the bells and whistles you might expect. There are even free conversion routines available on the web site so you can import your existing UltiMail messages and phone book, and try it all out before you pay anything. Oh yes, I think Nick has a utility with the program that will archive [compress] folders of mail. They are still usable, they just take up less space. I haven't tried this feature as space isn't too much of a problem for me, but I haven't heard any complaints about it either. The program is updated frequently, get the current version which is 1.26. In my opinion, the best reason to try this product is the support you get from the author, Nick Night. He runs a mailing list for the product which is subscribed to by many enthusiastic supporters. If one of them can't solve your problem Nick will, and usually *very* quickly. As an example, I once had an attachment that was slightly messed up and I couldn't unencode it. I needed it badly so I emailed it to Nick, he fixed it and sent it back to me in less than 30 minutes. Now I don't *expect* that kind of service but many will tell you that he often provides it. To be fair, the programs others have mentioned are fine too. OS/2 users are definitely not lacking for good email programs. Good luck, which ever one you choose. Vicky -- ___________________________________________________________ Vicky Stables, CPA stables@cnw.com ___________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 10 16:24:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA133633835; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:23:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02936; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:22:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:19:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02295; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:19:00 -0400 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02280; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:18:54 -0400 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA25122; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:20:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:20:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: One 16MB TP560/365/760 mem module for sale.. In-Reply-To: <199704101852.LAA19659@baker.cnw.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have one 16MB memory module for a Thinkpad 560 for sale for $75 delivered via FedEx in the continental US. It works great. I used it for 3 months, and just replaced it an hour ago with a 32MB module. Will also trade for a working 28.8/33.6 PCMCIA modem or Adaptec PCMCIA SCSI card. My sources say the same module works in the 560, 365 and 760. I don't know 100% for sure myself, so I can't guarantee that. My new 32MB modules packaging says it works with the 560, 365 and 760 so I'd imagine that the same goes for the 16MB module. Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 10 17:13:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA154996809; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:13:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08040; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:12:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:08:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07613; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:08:33 -0400 Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07522; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:08:24 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA28842; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:07:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12317; Thu, 10 Apr 97 17:12:53 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA14582; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:12:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:12:52 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle Reply-To: John Kim To: Mitchell Yee , Paul Rubin , "Lee A. Stewart" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: trackpoint caps? In-Reply-To: <00003599.1225@jud.ca.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I checked http://direct.boulder.ibm.com and it does indeed look like there is no more S&H fee. So I guess there's no point to a group order. However, all the TP models I checked have something called a trackpoint cap kit (which presumably contains 3 caps) for $5.00. The 701, which I have, only lists "trackpoint covers" singly for $2.80 each. :( So I guess the operative question is, are these caps different? The 701 uses a square post, just like my 750 did, only with rounded edges that don't cut into the caps. I could switch caps between the 750 and 701. Do the 760/365 use the same caps on square posts? -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 10 18:17:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA184950656; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 18:17:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14738; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 18:16:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Apr 1997 18:13:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14304; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 18:13:42 -0400 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@morgana.punk.net [204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14278; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 18:13:35 -0400 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA25263; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 15:15:05 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 15:15:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: One 16MB TP560/365/760 mem module for sale.. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 10 Apr 1997, Steve Parker wrote: > I have one 16MB memory module for a Thinkpad 560 for sale for $75 > delivered via FedEx in the continental US. It works great. I used it for 3 > months, and just replaced it an hour ago with a 32MB module. > > Will also trade for a working 28.8/33.6 PCMCIA modem or Adaptec PCMCIA > SCSI card. > > My sources say the same module works in the 560, 365 and 760. I > don't know 100% for sure myself, so I can't guarantee that. My new 32MB > modules packaging says it works with the 560, 365 and 760 so I'd imagine > that the same goes for the 16MB module. My sources [various RAM supplier ads] say that the following all use the same memory modules. If your system is not on this list it almost certainly will not work. IBM Thinkpad 365X, 365XD IBM Thinkpad 560 IBM Thinkpad 760E, 760ED, 760EL, 760ELD Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 10 19:26:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA215144802; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 19:26:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18362; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 18:52:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Apr 1997 18:49:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17933; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 18:49:27 -0400 Received: from doblegate.doble.com (doblegate.doble.com [204.215.186.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17923; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 18:49:17 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 34d5ff80; Thu, 10 Apr 97 17:47:36 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 18:46:51 -0400 Message-Id: <34d5ff80@doblegate.doble.com> Subject: Re: One 16MB TP560/365/760 mem module for sale.. To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, Steve Parker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I am interested but I have a 365ED. It looks like the difference between the ED and the XD is that the ED takes 3,3V SO DIM and the XD takes the 3.3V SO DIM EDO. Will EDO type memory work in a non-EDO system? Are the pinouts different between the memory types? 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com WB1HBU From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 10 20:41:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA245949311; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 20:41:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26112; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 20:40:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Apr 1997 20:37:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25700; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 20:37:28 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu (rho.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25682; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 20:37:21 -0400 Received: from ibmtp701c.lin.org ([128.97.149.28]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA40036 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:37:17 -0700 Received: by ibmtp701c.lin.org with Microsoft Mail id <01BC45D6.13F6F1C0@ibmtp701c.lin.org>; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:39:01 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC45D6.13F6F1C0@ibmtp701c.lin.org> From: Eddy Lin To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Experience with large HD in TP701? Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:38:55 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, Thanks to Randy, I have found a good source of HD for upgrading my = TP701. Does any one know if the 701 will support HD sized at 2.1GB? I am = deciding between the 1.44GB and the 2.1GB 4LP by IBM. I am more worried = about not being able to boot the computer than not being able to use the = whole capacity. Any comment would be appreciated. Thanks. Eddy Lin From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 10 21:34:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA270272447; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 21:34:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01450; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 21:33:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Apr 1997 21:31:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00990; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 21:31:01 -0400 Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (0@redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00972; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 21:30:51 -0400 Received: from tty3-8.tc.nd.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id VAA09493; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 21:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704110130.VAA09493@redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: "Gabriel Ash" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 10 Apr 97 20:31:36 Reply-To: "Gabriel Ash" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Gabriel Ash's Registered PMMail 1.9 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Email software for OS/2 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I second that. the interface is a work of art. see http://www.southsoft.com On Thu, 10 Apr 97 18:43:13, Geoff Hogan wrote: >I use PMMail (obtainable from Southsoft directly or, like much good OS/2 shareware, >BMT micro - URLs available if for some reason you haven't got them). I have used it >almost as long as I have been using OS/2 (which isn't all that long) and am very >pleased with it. Being shareware you can try before you buy, too. > >Geoff > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Dr G P Hogan >Laser Group, Clarendon Lab., Tel: +44 1865 272205 >Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3PU Fax: +44 1865 272400 >UK Email: g.hogan@physics.ox.ac.uk >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------- Gabriel Ash Notre-Dame ------------- From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 11 00:26:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA045762791; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 00:26:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14721; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 00:02:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Apr 1997 23:58:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13749; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 23:58:33 -0400 Received: from pyrrhus.alice-compusystems.com (alc130.syspac.com [204.181.55.207]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13717; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 23:58:26 -0400 Received: by pyrrhus.alice-compusystems.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0wFXVZ-00012kC; Thu, 10 Apr 97 21:00 MST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Apr 97 21:00 MST From: jones@alice-compusystems.com (David Jones) To: pkhoury@earthlink.net Cc: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Email software for OS/2 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is not so much an answer to your question rather a follow up question to "...I've had my ThinkPad lock-up lately while trying to download email...". I assume this is with UltiMail Lite. My wife is currently on the road with her trusty TP701 running OS/2 and is now experiencing 3175's when trying to run UltiMail. What exactly are your symptoms? Regards, David Jones From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 01:27:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA071066462; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 01:27:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20525; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 01:26:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 01:23:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20241; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 01:23:01 -0400 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20230; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 01:22:54 -0400 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA08165; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 01:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 01:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970411012219_49214353@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: o-n-a@bridge.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 Pentium upgrade? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Geovanny, I have not seen the document, but there are CPU upgrades for your TP701. What we offer is an upgraded CPU to Pentium class. Your system can be upgraded to the response equivalent of the Pentium 75. There are also Hard Drive upgrades through 2.1gb for your system and 3gb for the systems that can take Full Height drives. External HDD Shells are available that can let you use the old HDD taken out of the system as a D: drive. Please contact me if you would like our upgrade catalog for your system or if you have any other questions. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM 800-737-7693 X102 714-418-0113 X102 Tel 714-418-0117 Fax Up to 3GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: 701 Pentium upgrade? Date: 97-04-10 00:41:23 EDT From: o-n-a@bridge.net (Geovanny M. Ortiz) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu ('Thinkpad Mail list') I recently requested document #65084 from the IBM fax system (800-426-3395) because the document's title was "Thinkpad 701 C/CS, Related Features, Pentium Upgrade" I reviewed the document's part that talks about the pentium upgrade, but is very confusing. Has anyone seen this document, and/or is there really a Pentium upgrade for the 701's. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 02:23:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA095799792; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 02:23:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23878; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 02:22:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 02:20:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23678; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 02:20:38 -0400 Received: from mail (mail.islandnet.com [198.53.172.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23659; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 02:20:32 -0400 From: Received: from rdebeck [198.53.172.43] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m0wFZfs-0006clC for ; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 23:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Apr 97 21:03:21 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: TP701 Windows3.11/OS2 switch problem X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.26 (Unregistered) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In , on 04/09/97 at 07:03 PM, Waldemar Puszkarz said: >Hi, >I just got my laptop so please bear with me if this a FAQ. Here >is the problem: switching from Windows to OS2 in the OS2 >desktop mode causes the machine to stop and a whole bunch of >numbers and other scary looking data appears on the screen. >This ends with the statement: Call your representative. I guess >the resolution is to get a newer BIOS or at least the IBM >website says something to this effect in one of the TP tips >adding that it's a common trap problem for this machine. Any >idea if I am on the right track here? Here is the relevant >pointer http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/tips/12658.html >I am pretty verdant as far as OS2 is concerned and come across >this information just hours ago. Perhaps there is some other bug >I am not aware of that causes this. >Any help would be greatly appreciated. >Thanks. >Waldemar Windows/Win-OS/2 will not politely share access to the sound card. OS/2 will give Windows access to the soundcard and then Windows will hang on to it until it is closed. The configuration of the pre-install(local stores in Victoria) had OS/2 system sound enabled and windows sound enabled. Switching back to the desktop would consistently cause a hardware trap like you described. If you want windows sound card access.....disable OS/2 system sound to prevent this hardware conflict. You may also want to seek out ; CFGINFO4.ZIP to help with info and tweaking of your system, http://www.musthave.com for an assortment of OS/2 utilities and applications, and the "comp.os.os2..." usenet hierarchy for os/2 discussions. Happy Warping! -- ----------------------------------------------------------- rdebeck@islandnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 07:10:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA205077049; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 07:10:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20476; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 07:06:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 07:03:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20181; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 07:03:41 -0400 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20171; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 07:03:34 -0400 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 13:03:32 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: TP 560: DSTN vs TFT To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 13:03:31 +0200 (MES) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The TFT model of the 560 is still extremely expensive (the more so as it doesn't carry more than a 1 year warranty). This is different with the DSTN model - which is why it were more within the lines of my budget... Who is using the DSTN model and could comment on the screen quality? In particular, I'd like to know how it compares with the 701 DSTN screen. I have the latter and I don't like it's screen very much but I have been told that the quality of the DSTNs has improved since. Best Regards, Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 10:34:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA285319251; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:34:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07381; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:33:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:29:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06834; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:29:08 -0400 Received: from dmog10.bell.ca (dmog10.bell.ca [198.235.69.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06823; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:29:04 -0400 Received: from qc.bell.ca ([142.126.132.132]) by dmog10.bell.ca with ESMTP id KAA20480 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:28:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcocps.qc.bell.ca (dcocps.QC.Bell.CA [198.235.99.39]) by qc.bell.ca with ESMTP id KAA23433 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:28:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cmxc5q.qc.bell.ca by dcocps.qc.bell.ca (8.7.5/SMI-SVR4) id KAA22239; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:28:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704111428.KAA22239@dcocps.qc.bell.ca> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Eric Trepanier" To: Subject: How to unsuscribe from this list? Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:31:19 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Excuse me from interrupting the normal flow of conversations, but I've tried twice this week to unsuscribe from this list by sending an email to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu as mentionned to the header, and I haven't been unsuscribed yet. I expect to loose this email account within the next two weeks, so I wanted to unsuscribe from all mailing list before it was too late. If the list administrator sees this message, I would appreciate to be taken off the list. Many thanks! Eric -- Eric Trepanier Bell Sygma Telecom Solutions etrepani@qc.bell.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 11:11:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA003381506; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:11:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13747; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:10:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:07:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13106; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:07:10 -0400 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13094; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:07:04 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id IAA03975; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 08:06:58 -0700 Received: from hi-av2.cadence.com(158.140.128.32) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma860771218.003971; Fri Apr 11 08:06:58 1997 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (sj4a-41.cadence.com [158.140.31.51]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA08329; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 08:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 08:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704111503.IAA08329@mailhub.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Randy Whittle From: Don Perley Subject: Re: trackpoint caps? Cc: John Kim , Mitchell Yee , Paul Rubin , "Lee A. Stewart" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >>However, all the TP models I checked have something called a >>trackpoint cap kit (which presumably contains 3 caps) for $5.00. >>The 701, which I have, only lists "trackpoint covers" singly for >>$2.80 each. :( How many caps do people go through anyway? I've had my TP for 16 months now and haven't even used the spare cap that came with it. There's still plenty of cat tongue on the original. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 11:17:33 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA005911851; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:17:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14771; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:16:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:14:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14317; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:14:03 -0400 Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14302; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:13:56 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA13871; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:13:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19798; Fri, 11 Apr 97 11:18:55 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA15970; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:18:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:18:54 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle To: Don Perley Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: trackpoint caps? In-Reply-To: <199704111503.IAA08329@mailhub.Cadence.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Don Perley wrote: > > How many caps do people go through anyway? I've had my TP for 16 months > now and haven't even used the spare cap that came with it. There's still > plenty of cat tongue on the original. My first cat's tongue cap lasted about 20 hours of Doom. That was the freebie IBM sent me for my TP750. This is the first cap that's worn out on my TP701 (bought it over a year ago). When I moved out of the dorms, I lost the little plastic bag with the three extra caps... -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 11:56:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA022864168; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:56:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11944; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:01:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:56:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10545; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:56:29 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10530; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:56:23 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-56.usc.edu [128.125.223.200]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id HAA27627; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 07:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970411075314.014847c0@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 07:56:50 -0700 To: John Kim From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: trackpoint caps? Cc: Mitchell Yee , Paul Rubin , "Lee A. Stewart" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 05:12 PM 4/10/97 -0400, John Kim wrote: >However, all the TP models I checked have something called a >trackpoint cap kit (which presumably contains 3 caps) for $5.00. >The 701, which I have, only lists "trackpoint covers" singly for >$2.80 each. :( > >So I guess the operative question is, are these caps different? >The 701 uses a square post, just like my 750 did, only with >rounded edges that don't cut into the caps. I could switch caps >between the 750 and 701. Do the 760/365 use the same caps on >square posts? For what its worth, my 560 and 701 use the exact same caps. I think this is very much a standard part, at least among ThinkPads. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 15:36:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA192197374; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:36:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09783; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:34:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:30:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09267; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:30:32 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09241; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:30:26 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA28681; Fri, 11 Apr 97 09:30:23 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA04832; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 09:31:16 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199704111931.JAA04832@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: TP 560: DSTN vs TFT To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 9:30:54 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "Christoph Eyrich" at Apr 11, 97 1:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > The TFT model of the 560 is still extremely expensive > (the more so as it doesn't carry more than a 1 year > warranty). > > Who is using the DSTN model and could comment on the > screen quality? > > In particular, I'd like to know how it compares with > the 701 DSTN screen. I'm currently moving from a (TFT) 701c to a DSTN 560, courtesy of IBM; my big worry was the screen type change. Side by side, the latter is clearly less bright than the former, and has a narrower angle in which everything is visible. Moreover, the extra .8 inch of screen isn't much of an improvement. However, it is substantially better than I'd anticipated: very good color saturation and decent contrast. The unavoidable ghosting is still there, and of course no more video games, but overall acceptable. BTW, I still think the 701 is a much better thought-out machine: form factor is better, keyboard is bigger with deeper travel, and I already miss the reverse-video function key. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 15:50:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA208878255; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:50:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11453; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:48:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:46:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11235; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:46:06 -0400 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11202; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:45:46 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx17-16.teleport.com [206.163.125.18]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA10943 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 12:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 12:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704111945.MAA10943@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: Aftermarket Battery Source Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 06:57:00 >To: Mark Goldstein >From: Bryan Daum >Subject: Re: Aftermarket Battery Source > >I just called Extend (nice, helpful people rep put an engineer on the phone) and got some interesting news: > >They tell me that, indeed the NiMH batteries have a memory problem like the old Stuper NiCAD. The engineer said that the battery should be discharged completely prior charging but the probem lies in the fact that that the TP doesn't completely discharge the battery. > >The correctiion for the problem they suggest is their battery conditioner/charger that costs around a hundred bucks...I'm going to check on the price later today. The conditioner aspect fully discharges the battery in a proper manner (shorting is a BIG no no and maybe dangerous) to then recharge the battery to proper strength. They suggest the battery can last possibly twice as long if properly charged/conditioned. > >So has anyone used one of these conditioners? ? ? > >They also mentioned that there is a new NiMH battery that is being developed that will have extended life...similar to the lithium batteries. Not out yet but soon they implied. > >Bryan > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 16:06:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA219919163; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:06:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13342; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:04:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:02:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12958; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:02:03 -0400 Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12948; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:01:58 -0400 Received: from poppy.demon.co.uk ([158.152.35.157]) by relay-10.mail.demon.net id aa1026675; 11 Apr 97 20:27 BST From: Peter Goddard To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: new tpad - advice? Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 19:27:10 GMT Organization: Poppy Films Message-Id: <33528c4c.1768249@post.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu So... I've made the decision to upgrade my 755CE. I see in CompUSA's site that there is a Thinkpad 760XDwith a 166Mhz MMX Pentium, funnily enough this model is not on www.pc.ibm.com anyone got one of these, what's your impression. I need to run NT, DOS (for games) and Linux so a disk greater than 2Gb would be good, is this possible? Should I hang on a bit longer, anyone heard of any fab Thinkpads in the offing,maybe with 13" screens from Sharp's Wide Aperture Technology. Any hints welcomed. TIA pete -- "All good quotes eventually | pete@poppy.demon.co.uk appear in Newsgroups" | or pete@poppyfilms.co.uk Oskar Wild From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 16:25:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA237510344; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:25:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15131; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:22:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:20:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14736; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:20:11 -0400 Received: from alpha.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.18.143]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14704; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:20:04 -0400 Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.5/) with ESMTP id QAA18583; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:19:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop1a.mail.mci.com (pop1a.mail.mci.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.5/) with ESMTP id QAA24846; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:19:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gginsberg560.cs.mci.com ([166.32.98.127]) by pop1a.mail.mci.com (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release "turbo_2" ID# 1-123U25000L1S10) with SMTP id AAA314; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:19:31 -0500 Received: by gginsberg560.cs.mci.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4694.2D16BBE0@gginsberg560.cs.mci.com>; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:19:48 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC4694.2D16BBE0@gginsberg560.cs.mci.com> From: "Gregg Ginsberg" To: "'Peter Goddard'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: new tpad - advice? Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:21:29 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The 760XD is not on IBM's web site because it is not due to be released = officially until 4/15. This model replaces the 760ED & 760E. It will = ship with 32meg, 3gb drive, and 8x CD-Rom as reported by PC Week (I have = it on very good authority that this is true.) Considering the short = supply of 13.3" LCD's, I greatly doubt IBM will be introducing one all = that soon. --- Gregg Ginsberg executiveONE R&D MCI Telecommunications Phone: 202-887-3045, v220-3045 MCImail: 207-9482 Email: Gregg.Ginsberg@MCI.Com -----Original Message----- From: Peter Goddard [SMTP:pete@poppy.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, April 11, 1997 4:12 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: new tpad - advice? So... I've made the decision to upgrade my 755CE. I see in CompUSA's site that there is a Thinkpad 760XDwith a 166Mhz MMX Pentium, funnily enough this model is not on www.pc.ibm.com anyone got one of these, what's your impression. I need to run NT, DOS (for games) and Linux so a disk greater than 2Gb would be good, is this possible? Should I hang on a bit longer, anyone heard of any fab Thinkpads in the offing,maybe with 13" screens from Sharp's Wide Aperture Technology. Any hints welcomed. TIA pete -- "All good quotes eventually | pete@poppy.demon.co.uk appear in Newsgroups" | or pete@poppyfilms.co.uk Oskar Wild From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 16:35:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA246960905; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:35:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16166; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:30:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:26:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15621; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:26:55 -0400 Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15601; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:26:50 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA25635 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:26:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:26:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199704112026.PAA25635@dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com> Received: from sjx-ca29-08.ix.netcom.com(204.31.235.136) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma025585; Fri Apr 11 15:26:02 1997 From: krosen@ix.netcom.com (Kenneth Rosenblatt) Subject: Which memory mfr; using Thinkpad in Asia To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello: Well I'm in the middle of ordering my Thinkpad 560 from IBM, and discover that there are no 8MB or 16MB IBM modules shipping for at least 2 weeks (and the 16MB module isn't slated to arrive back in stock until mid-May). I need my additional memory to arrive before the end of the month, so I must go elsewhere. So, do I get Kingston, Viking, PNY, Simple, or some other memory mfr? Are they all the same? What are the chances that I'm going to wind up with a problem? Can I just drop in any 16MB module to make it 24MB? BTW, is my sales rep correct when he says that I don't need any additional equipment (e.g., plug adapters) to use the 560 when I travel to Singapore and Malaysia? (I'm not planning on using a modem there; this is just a power/plug issue.) And is it worth it to take along an APC Surge Arrestor for notebooks? Are there any other issues I need to worry about? Thanks. Ken Rosenblatt From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 17:30:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA284044232; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:30:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19997; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:09:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:04:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19397; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:04:17 -0400 Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19387; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:04:13 -0400 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id RAA24982; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970411170327_17268402@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: perley@cadence.com, rwhittle@usa.net Cc: kim@mak.com, Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov, phr@netcom.com, lestewa@ibm.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: trackpoint caps? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have had my Thinkpad for a week and a day now. My Trackpoint cap is about 1/2 worn out already. Do you clean them regularly? John From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 17:55:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA001365749; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:55:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23309; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:46:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:42:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22893; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:42:25 -0400 Received: from barney.usu.edu (barney.usu.edu [129.123.1.89]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22882; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:42:21 -0400 Received: from cc.usu.edu by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IHL1T6N9I890Q6WZ@cc.usu.edu>; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:41:53 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:41:53 -0600 (MDT) From: GREG ALVANDIAN Subject: Re: TP 560: DSTN vs TFT In-Reply-To: <199704111931.JAA04832@tarski.hawaii.edu> To: David Ross Cc: Christoph Eyrich , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, David Ross wrote: > I'm currently moving from a (TFT) 701c to a DSTN 560, courtesy of IBM; > my big worry was the screen type change. Side by side, the latter is > clearly less bright than the former, and has a narrower angle in which > everything is visible. Moreover, the extra .8 inch of screen isn't > much of an improvement. However, it is substantially better than I'd > anticipated: very good color saturation and decent contrast. The > unavoidable ghosting is still there, and of course no more video games, > but overall acceptable. > > BTW, I still think the 701 is a much better thought-out machine: form > factor is better, keyboard is bigger with deeper travel, and I already > miss the reverse-video function key. > > - David > > What exactly do you use the reverse-video mode for? I never could figure that one out. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- GREGORY ALVANDIAN : Pooh looked at his two paws. He knew that : one of them was the right, and he knew SOCIETY OF AVIATION : that when you had decided which one of MAINTENANCE PROFESSIONALS : them was the right, then the other one was : was the left, but he never could remember UTAH STATE UNIVERSITY : how to begin. slppj@cc.usu.edu : -The Tao of Pooh. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 18:11:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA008166669; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:11:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24285; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:55:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:53:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23921; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:53:49 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23886; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:53:31 -0400 Received: from ssh.noc.interop.net (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07632; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:52:54 -0600 Message-Id: <334EB208.2554B7DB@wwsi.com> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:50:00 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Goddard Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: new tpad - advice? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <33528c4c.1768249@post.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The 760XD and 760D have been pre-announced, but not officially announced. I think the announcement is next Tuesday (all IBM announcements, last I knew, were on Tuesdays). The XD should be a wonderful machine for your requirements, and may even come with NT pre-loaded. I'm looking forward to the D which has a 13.3" screen and is due later this quarter. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 18:38:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA020458297; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:38:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26333; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:14:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:11:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26067; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:11:28 -0400 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26052; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:11:20 -0400 Received: (from sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA26762; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:12:50 -0700 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:12:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: PEPSales@aol.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 Pentium upgrade? In-Reply-To: <970411012219_49214353@emout12.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 11 Apr 1997 PEPSales@aol.com wrote: > I have not seen the document, but there are CPU upgrades for your TP701. What > we offer is an upgraded CPU to Pentium class. Your system can be upgraded to > the response equivalent of the Pentium 75. Please post system benchmarks to give us some idea of how much of a difference it will really make. If it is truly a useful and worthwhile upgrade I am sure you would be happy to share numbers with us. Valid meaningful numbers and not tiny benchmarks that fit in the CPU's L1 cache. Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 19:11:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA034360290; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 19:11:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01039; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 19:03:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 19:00:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00783; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:59:57 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00772; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:59:51 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA29786; Fri, 11 Apr 97 12:59:48 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA04925; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 13:00:43 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199704112300.NAA04925@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: TP 560: DSTN vs TFT To: slppj@cc.usu.edu (GREG ALVANDIAN) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 13:00:42 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "GREG ALVANDIAN" at Apr 11, 97 3:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > What exactly do you use the reverse-video mode for? > I never could figure that one out. I prefer black-on-white for normal lighting, white-on-black when it is darkish or if there is lots of reflection. Having the switch is easier than changing the color schemes in the programs. Also, while travelling I like to use black backgrounds to conserve battery power. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 21:03:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA080977033; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:03:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07007; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 20:49:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 20:46:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06877; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 20:46:27 -0400 Received: from massis.lcs.mit.edu (massis.lcs.mit.edu [18.23.0.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06866; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 20:46:20 -0400 Received: from freefall.freebsd.org by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.7.4/NSCS-1.0S) id UAA25195; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 20:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from hsu@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA04723; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:46:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffrey Hsu Message-Id: <199704120046.RAA04723@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ross@math.hawaii.edu Subject: Re: TP 560: DSTN vs TFT Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Also, while travelling I like to use black backgrounds to conserve battery power. Just out of curiosity, do you have any numbers on how much longer the battery lasts with a black screen vs a white screen? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 21:18:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA087247932; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:18:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08945; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:11:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:08:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08573; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:08:39 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08563; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:08:35 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA00564; Fri, 11 Apr 97 15:08:32 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA05011; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:09:27 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199704120109.PAA05011@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: TP 560: DSTN vs TFT To: hsu@freefall.freebsd.org (Jeffrey Hsu) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 15:09:21 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199704120046.RAA04723@freefall.freebsd.org>; from "Jeffrey Hsu" at Apr 11, 97 5:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Just out of curiosity, do you have any numbers on how much longer the > battery lasts with a black screen vs a white screen? No, but there have been many occasions (on my 701) when I had less than an hour indicated (according to the power meter) in a largely white Windopws environment, then had much more than an hour indicated shortly after hitting the lcd reverse button. Possibly none of this would apply to a DSTN screen, by the way. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 11 21:56:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA101650182; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:56:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11795; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:50:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:47:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11631; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:47:22 -0400 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11621; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:47:17 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id SAA16733; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:47:08 -0700 Received: from hi-av2.cadence.com(158.140.128.32) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma860809627.016729; Fri Apr 11 18:47:07 1997 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (sj4a-31.cadence.com [158.140.31.41]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA16118; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704120143.SAA16118@mailhub.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: Don Perley Subject: Re: trackpoint caps? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 05:03 PM 4/11/97 -0400, Disneyjazz@aol.com wrote: >I have had my Thinkpad for a week and a day now. My Trackpoint cap is about >1/2 worn out already. Do you clean them regularly? No. I do clean my hands once in a while though. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 12 08:09:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA047206999; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 08:09:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25578; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 08:08:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Apr 1997 08:03:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25216; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 08:03:21 -0400 Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25206; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 08:03:17 -0400 Received: from pool030-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool030-max1.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.7.180]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA23901 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 05:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704121202.FAA23901@sweden.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 12 Apr 97 05:03:40 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701 w/OS/2 and Linux Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone have experiance with using OS/2 and Linux on their ThinkPad, particulary the 701? I need some assistance on installation and booting. I currently have HPFS, Boot Manager, and FAT for PC-DOS. Thanks. Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 12 10:43:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA106046231; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:43:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03716; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:25:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:22:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03473; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:22:37 -0400 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03462; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:22:25 -0400 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 16:22:07 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Re: trackpoint caps? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 16:22:07 +0200 (MES) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 05:03 PM 4/11/97 -0400, Disneyjazz@aol.com wrote: >I have had my Thinkpad for a week and a day now. My Trackpoint cap is about >1/2 worn out already. Do you clean them regularly? What do you use the cap for :-)? I've used the same one for more than a year and it's still fine. But maybe that's because I don't need it for any games. The one produced prior to the new cat's tongue-like model had to be cleaned occassionally. The current one has only turned from red to a greyish red to something close to black... Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat-fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 12 10:56:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA111036964; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:56:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05539; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:46:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:44:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05131; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:43:58 -0400 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05112; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:43:54 -0400 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 16:40:01 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701 w/OS/2 and Linux To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 16:40:01 +0200 (MES) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Does anyone have experiance with using OS/2 and Linux on their ThinkPad, particulary the 701? I need > some assistance on installation and booting. I currently have HPFS, Boot Manager, and FAT for PC-DOS. > Thanks. > > Paul Khoury > pkhoury@earthlink.net I ran both os2 3.0 (Warp) and an older slackware linux on the 701CS with 24MB and the 340 MB HD. In both cases the installation went smoothly. The application of an os2 service pack screwed the entire system up but I didn't have the time to find out why. As to linux on the 701: Have a look at http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ There are two links for information about this model. Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 12 10:57:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA111627047; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:57:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05195; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:44:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:42:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05024; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:42:01 -0400 Received: from mail2.access.digex.net (mail2.access.digex.net [205.197.247.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05014; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:41:56 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail2.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA00894; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:41:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27471; Sat, 12 Apr 97 10:46:59 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA17459; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:46:57 -0400 Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 10:46:57 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle To: Christoph Eyrich Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: trackpoint caps? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Christoph Eyrich wrote: > The one produced prior to the new cat's tongue-like model > had to be cleaned occassionally. The current one has only > turned from red to a greyish red to something close to > black... ??? I've found that after enough use, the cat's tongue coating flakes and peels off the cap itself. This is after it turns greyish-red, but before it turns black. Has IBM redesigned the coating so it's now part of the cap instead of a coating, or are my hands just cleaner than yours? :) -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 12 12:09:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA147661383; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 12:09:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10726; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 12:03:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Apr 1997 12:01:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10504; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 12:01:03 -0400 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10430; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 12:00:17 -0400 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 17:58:38 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Re: trackpoint caps? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 17:58:38 +0200 (MES) Cc: kim@mak.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I've found that after enough use, the cat's tongue coating > flakes and peels off the cap itself. This is after it turns > greyish-red, but before it turns black. Has IBM redesigned > the coating so it's now part of the cap instead of a coating, > or are my hands just cleaner than yours? :) > -- > John H. Kim > kim@mak.com No idea. I fear that my right index finger is closer to black than yours (what do you use for cleaning your fingers?). So far there is no peeling off or flaking... Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 12 13:10:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA172575014; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 13:10:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14417; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 13:02:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Apr 1997 12:59:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14183; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 12:59:11 -0400 Received: from netcom3.netcom.com (phr@netcom3.netcom.com [192.100.81.103]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14172; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 12:59:00 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom3.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA01347; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 09:58:51 -0700 Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 09:58:51 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199704121658.JAA01347@netcom3.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: various Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu 1. Re batteries, I've never had anything but rotten luck with NiMH batteries in anything I've used them in--two laptops and a cellular phone. If you overcharge them, they are damaged and won't hold a charge any more. Lithium is better all around, but expensive. Ni-Cd is cheaper and holds less energy, but doesn't seem to need as fussy treatment as NiMH. 2. Re reverse video: battery operating time should be about exactly the same. The backlight uses exactly the same amount of power either way. The difference is just whether the LCD pixels are turned on or off. 3. Re trackpoint caps, I find the cats tongue ones wear out after a few tens of hours of moderate use. Since I use the trackpoint fairly lightly (my work style is to use the keyboard more), I go through about one cap per month. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 12 14:10:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA198198637; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 14:10:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17786; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 14:07:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Apr 1997 14:04:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17495; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 14:04:41 -0400 Received: from ns.mounet.com (ns.mounet.com [206.151.76.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17481; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 14:04:35 -0400 Received: from k68.mounet.com by ns.mounet.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/18Dec95-1202AM) id AA03350; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:02:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:02:37 -0400 Message-Id: <9604111802.AA03350@ns.mounet.com> X-Sender: pinin@mounet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: James Seabolt Subject: PCMCIA modems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I turned the COM2 port off on my Thinkpad 340 as Jeffrey Schwartz said to. My intensions was to turn the 2400 modem off. That seemed to get my over that hurdle. Now here's my next problem. I installed the setup software that came with my modem but later erased it off Windows 3.11 . I tried to re-install it but it , is very picky. It is now saying that there are no available com ports. Trouble is, I am not using an COM ports!! I had been using a "dekstop" modem which I had plugged into the COM1 port but I am trying to setup the PCMCIA modem as of right now. First question: In the setup "F1 during bootup", I could only find COM1 and COM2 ports in the BIOS. How do I "clear" the other two ports. \\II// \\II// ___oOo___@ @___oOo___ ___oOo___@ @___oOo___ (_) (_) ********************************************************************* * James Seabolt Mailto:pinin@mounet.com * * United States * * * * * * 1980 FIAT 2000 Spider (F.I.) summertime daily driver * * 1981 FIAT X1/9 (F.I.) 200,000 miles and still going * * 1981 FIAT 2000 Spider (Non runner) *for sale* * * 1994 JEEP Wrangler (YJ) 2.5 liter , four banger * * 1979 Snapper Hi-Vac (bone stock, save for Techumseh engine) * * 1976 Chevrolet Pickup 454 Big Block (raw torque) * * 1963 FORD Fairlane (just resting for the past 12 years) * * * ********************************************************************* From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 12 19:09:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA014556578; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 19:09:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10050; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 19:08:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Apr 1997 19:03:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09593; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 19:03:40 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09582; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 19:03:34 -0400 Received: by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA02729; Sat, 12 Apr 97 13:03:27 HST From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <9704122303.AA02729@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: various To: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 97 13:03:26 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199704121658.JAA01347@netcom3.netcom.com>; from "Paul Rubin" at Apr 12, 97 9:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have to disagree with all three of these claims: > 1. Re batteries, I've never had anything but rotten luck with NiMH > batteries in anything I've used them in--two laptops and a cellular > phone. While I can't really disagree with Paul's luck, I know that with the two batteries in my 701 (one NCad, one NIMH) the NIMH was certainly more consistent. Others on this list have reported the same. > 2. Re reverse video: battery operating time should be about exactly > the same. The backlight uses exactly the same amount of power either > way. This is not what my power meter reported. However, rather than argue, I suggest that anyone interested run the experiment for themselves - easy enough to do (though easiest with a machine like the 701 which has a reverse LCD button). Perhaps the power required to keep all those pixels 'on' on a TFT display is not negligible. > 3. Re trackpoint caps, I find the cats tongue ones wear out after > a few tens of hours of moderate use. I get months out of mine, and I'm a heavy mouser. However, I never touch the cap unless I'm actually moving it, and I use a very light touch. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 12 19:34:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA024318073; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 19:34:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11901; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 19:34:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Apr 1997 19:31:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11729; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 19:31:48 -0400 Received: from SNEEZY.USU.EDU (sneezy.usu.edu [129.123.1.87]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11719; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 19:31:44 -0400 Received: from slppj.usu.edu (asy32.xy1.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IHMJXN7RK090P8EO@cc.usu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 17:31:42 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 17:30:44 -0600 From: Greg Alvandian Subject: Non-disruptive swap on 701cs To: ThinkPad Mailing list Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <33501B23.6AD4@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have had a problem with not being able to reliably perform a non-disruptive battery swap on my 701cs since I bought it almost exactly one year ago. This problem has resisted four attempts to Easyserv to fix and still it persisted. I just recently sent it to customer relations so, get this, they could send it to easyserv. Any how I haven't gotten it back yet but I got a message on my answering machine from an IBM tech who says it's not a hardware problem but instead due to Win95 APM. He said that disabling APM has solved it. Well I'm extremely sceptical about this as this problem has persisted since I first bought the machine and they haven't done anything different to it this fifth time. Coupled with the fact that I've only recently upgraded to Win 95 and I've had the same problem consistenly in DOS, OS/2 Warp, and win3.1. So it sounds like IBM is trying to feed me a line so it relieves them of the burden. Not to mention the fact that win95 is supposedly "ThinkPad Proven." I would like to know if anyone else has had any problems performing a non-disruptive battery swap (putting the computer into suspend and then swapping out the battery and merely opening the lid to unsuspend). More importantly I'd like to know if anyone running Win95 with APM enabled, has had any problems like this, or rather if they have had no problems doing this. -Greg A. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 12 20:04:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA035669850; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 20:04:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14799; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 20:03:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Apr 1997 20:01:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14464; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 20:01:18 -0400 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14440; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 20:01:08 -0400 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA04022; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 18:59:58 -0400 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199704122259.SAA04022@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Non-disruptive swap on 701cs To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 18:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (ThinkPad Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <33501B23.6AD4@cc.usu.edu> from "Greg Alvandian" at Apr 12, 97 05:30:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I have had a problem with not being able to reliably perform a > non-disruptive battery swap on my 701cs since I bought it almost exactly > one year ago. Here's a long shot: do you have a PCMCIA card installed when you're trying to do the swap? I've heard that some PCMCIA cards do not get turned off when the machine goes into suspend, and if they draw enough power, they'll drain the backup lithium battery before you get a chance to install the main replacement battery. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 12 21:09:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA062623744; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 21:09:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19827; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 21:08:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Apr 1997 21:07:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19742; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 21:07:06 -0400 Received: from barney.usu.edu (barney.usu.edu [129.123.1.89]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19731; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 21:07:01 -0400 Received: from slppj.usu.edu (asy11.xy1.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IHMN9RM2U890P8EO@cc.usu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 19:06:58 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 19:05:55 -0600 From: Greg Alvandian Subject: Re: Non-disruptive swap on 701cs To: ThinkPad Mailing list Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <33503173.1E75@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199704122259.SAA04022@dogmead.excelsior.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tim Tyhurst wrote: > > > I have had a problem with not being able to reliably perform a > > non-disruptive battery swap on my 701cs since I bought it almost exactly > > one year ago. > > Here's a long shot: do you have a PCMCIA card installed when you're > trying to do the swap? I've heard that some PCMCIA cards do not get > turned off when the machine goes into suspend, and if they draw enough > power, they'll drain the backup lithium battery before you get a chance > to install the main replacement battery Thanks for the suggestion, but I eliminated that possibility a long time ago. It has a the problem whether or not a PCMCIA card is installed. I even went into the ThinkPad set-up screen and tried turning off the PCMCIA power. Thanks for the suggestion though. -Greg A. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 12 23:19:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA113111549; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 23:19:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28532; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 23:18:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Apr 1997 23:15:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28200; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 23:15:46 -0400 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28064; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 23:15:27 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx17-04.teleport.com [206.163.125.6]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA13481; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 20:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 20:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704130315.UAA13481@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: slppj@cc.usu.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: Non-disruptive swap on 701cs Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Are these battery changing problems also a problem while using hibernate (F12) and win 3.1 on a 701C or is it just a suspend (close the lid) thing? BD From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 13 01:38:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA164729883; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 01:38:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07411; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 01:37:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Apr 1997 01:35:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07123; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 01:34:59 -0400 Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA07113; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 01:34:55 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA02744; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 01:34:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29238; Sun, 13 Apr 97 01:39:54 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id BAA18019; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 01:39:53 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 01:39:52 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle Reply-To: John Kim To: David Ross Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: various In-Reply-To: <9704122303.AA02729@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, David Ross wrote: > > 1. Re batteries, I've never had anything but rotten luck with NiMH > > batteries in anything I've used them in--two laptops and a cellular > > phone. > > While I can't really disagree with Paul's luck, I know that with the two > batteries in my 701 (one NCad, one NIMH) the NIMH was certainly more > consistent. Others on this list have reported the same. NiMH batteries self-discharge faster than NiCd. The 755 series battery lost about 5% of its charge per day. The 701's NiMH was supposedly designed to avoid this drawback, and apparently it works - I've kept fully charged 701 batteries on the shelf for months with little discharge. > > 2. Re reverse video: battery operating time should be about exactly > > the same. The backlight uses exactly the same amount of power either > > way. > > This is not what my power meter reported. However, rather than argue, I > suggest that anyone interested run the experiment for themselves - easy > enough to do (though easiest with a machine like the 701 which has a > reverse LCD button). Perhaps the power required to keep all those > pixels 'on' on a TFT display is not negligible. It's negligible. The backlight provides all the light. The pixels just determine if they let the light through or not. With the backlight off (i.e. hooked up to an external monitor) I can milk the battery for about 8 hours, as opposed to less than 3 hours normally. OTOH, LCDs are designed to operate on a voltage difference - in an ideal world, they wouldn't draw any current and so would use no power. In reality, they still draw close to nothing. I may be wrong, but I believe the default position of LCD crystals are transparent (untwisted). If that's the case, the brighter colors actually save more power (miniscule though it may be) than the darker colors. For more information than you ever wanted to know about LCDs, see: http://www.ee.washington.edu/eeca/text/LCD.html I don't trust the built-in meter. It seems to key off the voltage it picks up from the battery and run it through some strange formulas based on disk activity, keyboard activity, screen configuration, etc. Battery voltages fluctuate a lot depending on the current being drawn from it (and probaably other factors) so the whole basis for the meter is pretty unreliable. If you really want to measure battery life, turn off all the APM functions and use a stopwatch. > > 3. Re trackpoint caps, I find the cats tongue ones wear out after > > a few tens of hours of moderate use. > > I get months out of mine, and I'm a heavy mouser. However, I never > touch the cap unless I'm actually moving it, and I use a very light > touch. I suspect this may all depend on the range of mouse sensitivities allowed in the OS/programs we're using. I remember OS/2's mouse settings were pretty slow even at the fastest setting, causing me to put a lot of pressure on the cap to move the pointer around at a decent speed. Linux is OK although I'd like it to be a little faster (anyone know how to set that in FVWM?). I could never set Win95's acceleration to a level I liked. It always seemed I was jumping between super-slow to super- accelerated. Right now I have Win95 set for a glidepoint touchpad on an external keyboard I use, and the trackpoint is incredibly slow as a result. I can't figure out a way to set the speed to a different amount depending on whether I'm using the cap or pad. Strange thing is, Linux's mouse speed is just fine with either the cap or pad. -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 13 02:06:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA176891585; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 02:06:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08878; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 02:06:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Apr 1997 02:03:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08621; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 02:03:35 -0400 Received: from barney.usu.edu (barney.usu.edu [129.123.1.89]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA08607; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 02:03:28 -0400 Received: from slppj.usu.edu (asy59.xy1.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IHMXM8HM3I8Y6N10@cc.usu.edu>; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 00:03:22 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 20:20:45 -0600 From: Greg Alvandian Subject: Re: Non-disruptive swap on 701cs To: Bryan Daum Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <335042FD.77C8@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199704130315.UAA13481@kim.teleport.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Bryan Daum wrote: > > Are these battery changing problems also a problem while using hibernate > (F12) and win 3.1 on a 701C or is it just a suspend (close the lid) thing? > > BD I don't usually use hibernate, or safe suspend for that matter, because with 40 meg of RAM it would require making a 40 meg hibernate file, which is space I don't care to waste, so I'm not sure if it is a problem in hibernate. I have tried safe suspend, which is a work around in the event that the battery swap causes a loss of power, but at the price you pay for an IBM I don't want a work around that wastes disk space and battery life for reboot. So I prefer to be able to use suspend either from the start menu, closing the lid, or the Fn+F4 key combo. Right now I'm trying to determine Win95's and its APM's compatibility with this non-disruptive battery swap feature. I have a .txt file from IBM's site that discusses upgrading to Win95 on ThinkPads and it indicates that the 701 is fully compatible with APM 1.1. Do you have any trouble with hot battery swaps? Thanks for the input. -Greg A. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 13 10:29:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA060451765; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 10:29:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15506; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 10:29:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Apr 1997 10:26:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15227; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 10:26:01 -0400 Received: from jaring.my (jaring.my [192.228.128.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15212; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 10:25:54 -0400 Received: from 23byn43 (host@j13.ptl32.jaring.my [161.142.114.147]) by jaring.my (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA29543; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 22:25:14 +0800 (MYT) Message-Id: <199704131425.WAA29543@jaring.my> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "George In" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, Steve Parker Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 16:19:16 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: One 16MB TP560/365/760 mem module for sale.. Reply-To: gin@pc.jaring.my Priority: normal References: <199704101852.LAA19659@baker.cnw.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, > I have one 16MB memory module for a Thinkpad 560 for sale for $75 > delivered via FedEx in the continental US. It works great. I used it for 3 > months, and just replaced it an hour ago with a 32MB module. Who's the manufacturer? regards, George From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 13 20:12:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA286976742; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:12:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20226; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:11:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:07:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19680; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:07:47 -0400 Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19642; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:07:36 -0400 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id PAA01175; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 15:29:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 15:29:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970413152904_973456947@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: pete@poppy.demon.co.uk Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: new tpad - advice? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Peter, Currently your TP755 is upgradable through 3gb Hard Drives and CPU upgrades to Pentium Class. Total System Storage Capacity can be expanded to 6gb with the External HDD Shell. It looks like that your system should be able to run everything you mentouned without any problems. I am sending out upgrade catalog for your system. We also are upgrading many of the Thimkpads for much less than the purchase price of a new system. Please conatct me if you have any other questions or needs. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 3GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: new tpad - advice? Date: 97-04-11 20:13:28 EDT From: pete@poppy.demon.co.uk (Peter Goddard) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu So... I've made the decision to upgrade my 755CE. I see in CompUSA's site that there is a Thinkpad 760XDwith a 166Mhz MMX Pentium, funnily enough this model is not on www.pc.ibm.com anyone got one of these, what's your impression. I need to run NT, DOS (for games) and Linux so a disk greater than 2Gb would be good, is this possible? Should I hang on a bit longer, anyone heard of any fab Thinkpads in the offing,maybe with 13" screens from Sharp's Wide Aperture Technology. Any hints welcomed. TIA pete -- "All good quotes eventually | pete@poppy.demon.co.uk appear in Newsgroups" | or pete@poppyfilms.co.uk Oskar Wild From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 13 20:48:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA002748933; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:48:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26350; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:48:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:46:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26115; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:46:52 -0400 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26105; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:46:48 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx09-13.teleport.com [206.163.124.15]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09648 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 13:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 13:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704132008.NAA09648@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: Non-disruptive swap on 701cs Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 12:08:07 >To: slppj@cc.usu.edu >From: Bryan Daum >Subject: Re: Non-disruptive swap on 701cs > >Have not yet used the second battery, just got it this past week. You have me considering just how to do the swap. > >You have 40 megs on a 701? > >Bryan > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 13 21:11:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA011850269; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:11:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29597; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:10:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:08:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29268; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:08:39 -0400 Received: from italy.it.earthlink.net (italy-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA29246; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:08:33 -0400 Received: from pool043-max4.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net (pool043-max4.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.21.43]) by italy.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14270 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 14:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704132121.OAA14270@italy.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 13 Apr 97 14:23:08 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 Main Power Input Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone had any problems with the power supply cable coming loose or even falling out of the main jack (not the Multiport II)? Also, has anyone had any cracks in the hinges of their 701s, even from light use? I think that it might be a poor case design, but it might also just be my machine. I had my dad, an engineer, tell me that the machine is nice, but the case design is insufficient. Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 13 21:30:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA019711453; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:30:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA19755; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:08:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Apr 1997 17:47:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11055; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 17:47:26 -0400 Received: from SNEEZY.USU.EDU (sneezy.usu.edu [129.123.1.87]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11045; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 17:47:16 -0400 Received: from slppj.usu.edu (asy27.xy1.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IHNULF4HRU8ZI1UO@cc.usu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 15:47:12 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 07:18:50 -0600 From: Greg Alvandian Subject: Re: Non-disruptive swap on 701cs To: ThinkPad Mailing list Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <3350DD3A.6943@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199704132019.NAA11465@kim.teleport.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Bryan Daum wrote: > > Following up my last note: As it is clear from your letter that indeed you > have 40 megs, have you always had the 40 or did you first go through the 24 > meg upgrade? What I am getting to is whether the 40 meg option is worthy of > selling the 16 meg chip (paid $300 ;-( ...) and go searching for a 32? Of > course if you haven't had both you won't know... > > Bryan Bryan, I'm sorry I didn't mean to mis-lead you. I currently have only 24megs, but I'm only waiting to see if IBM has finally fixed my computer correctly before I upgrade to 40. I bought the 16 meg upgrade for only $129. I have seen the 32 meg chip for as low as $382, but I don't recall where now. I have had a significant improvement with the 24 megs, and I don't know if 40megs will make much more of a difference, but I currently run Office 97 on Win95 and that is already putting quite a demand on my memory. I will soon be running AutoCAD R13 and that needs as much memory as it can get. The improvement you see depends on what applications you plan on running simultaneously. If you just use Office 97, then the 24 megs should suffice and the cost to benefits ratio may not validate getting the 32 meg chip. However, the trend I see on desktops running Win95 is now 32megs to run smoothly so....... Anyhow, do you have a 701? If so, try doing the hot swap. The procedure is outlined in the owner's manual. It's a very simple procedure. While running on battery power alone,Just close the lid (if the computer is set to suspend on lid close, if not use the Fn+F1 key combo get into the setup and change it to suspend on lid close) wait for the power light to go out and the hard drive to spin down, then turn the computer over and release the battery catch and remove the battery and replace it. Then turn computer back over and open the lid. If you were succesful, the computer should come out of suspend right where you left off. On your first test try it might be a good idea to save anything you're working on in case it doesn't work, but you already knew that. If you are running Win 95 and have APM enabled (with the little battery icon in the tray and a battery icon in control panel) let me know if it works for you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 13 22:25:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA040754703; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 22:25:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02652; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:26:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:23:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01576; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:23:07 -0400 Received: from relay-11.mail.demon.net (relay-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.137]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01556; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:23:02 -0400 Received: from dach.demon.co.uk ([194.222.61.229]) by relay-10.mail.demon.net id aa1023842; 13 Apr 97 21:52 BST Received: by localhost with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4855.0D9DD9C0@localhost>; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:52:59 +0100 Message-Id: <01BC4855.0D9DD9C0@localhost> From: Chris Alba To: "'Randy Whittle'" , John Kim Cc: Mitchell Yee , Paul Rubin , "Lee A. Stewart" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: trackpoint caps? Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 14:07:55 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu For what it's worth - I'm using Tosh trackpoint caps (which I can get = from work, as they "support" Toshes), but if you have to buy them, = they're MUCH cheaper than IBM... All the best, Chris=20 cja@usa.net -----Original Message----- From: Randy Whittle [SMTP:rwhittle@usa.net] Sent: Friday, April 11, 1997 3:57 PM To: John Kim Cc: Mitchell Yee; Paul Rubin; Lee A. Stewart; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: trackpoint caps? At 05:12 PM 4/10/97 -0400, John Kim wrote: >However, all the TP models I checked have something called a >trackpoint cap kit (which presumably contains 3 caps) for $5.00.=20 >The 701, which I have, only lists "trackpoint covers" singly for >$2.80 each. :( > >So I guess the operative question is, are these caps different? >The 701 uses a square post, just like my 750 did, only with >rounded edges that don't cut into the caps. I could switch caps >between the 750 and 701. Do the 760/365 use the same caps on >square posts? For what its worth, my 560 and 701 use the exact same caps. I think this is very much a standard part, at least among ThinkPads. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC = http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it = is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I=20 am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 13 22:32:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA043915147; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 22:32:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09959; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 22:32:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Apr 1997 22:29:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09649; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 22:29:31 -0400 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09639; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 22:29:27 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out1.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id CAA48512 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 02:29:23 GMT Received: from slip129-37-226-97.ut.us.ibm.net(129.37.226.97) by out1.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaiJEDM2; Mon Apr 14 02:28:27 1997 Received: by slip129-37-226-97.ut.us.ibm.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4849.1038C660@slip129-37-226-97.ut.us.ibm.net>; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:27:10 -0600 Message-Id: <01BC4849.1038C660@slip129-37-226-97.ut.us.ibm.net> From: ChinMing Kuo To: "'gin@pc.jaring.my'" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: One 16MB TP560/365/760 mem module for sale.. Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:27:08 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorrt for the spam. But please make sure you're using 'reply to sender' with this kind of private msg. The mailing list is for public broadcast only. Regards, CMK -----Original Message----- From: George In [SMTP:gin@pc.jaring.my] Sent: Sunday, April 13, 1997 2:19 AM To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Steve Parker Subject: Re: One 16MB TP560/365/760 mem module for sale.. Hi, > I have one 16MB memory module for a Thinkpad 560 for sale for $75 > delivered via FedEx in the continental US. It works great. I used it for 3 > months, and just replaced it an hour ago with a 32MB module. Who's the manufacturer? regards, George From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 13 22:39:42 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA046655582; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 22:39:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10888; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 22:36:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Apr 1997 22:34:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10467; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 22:34:31 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu (rho.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10450; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 22:34:26 -0400 Received: from ibmtp701c.lin.org (ppp-206-170-213-145.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.213.145]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA40618 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:34:23 -0700 Received: by ibmtp701c.lin.org with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4841.F16C1E00@ibmtp701c.lin.org>; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:36:12 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC4841.F16C1E00@ibmtp701c.lin.org> From: Eddy Lin To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Non-disruptive swap on 701cs Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 19:35:59 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You know what, you are not the only one who has this problem. I have a = 701C with 24MB of memory. I have tried to swap the battery in suspend = mode and the only time that it will stay alive is when I am in clean = boot DOS. I don't remember if OS/2 does it correctly but I know that = Win31 and Win95 doesn't do it. I have tried it with the SOMM memory = module removed and still doesn't work. I called the HelpCenter a couple = of times and they can't give me an explanation as to why it's doing this = (a couple of times, they even denied that the 701 can do hot battery = swap until I referred them to the user's manual). As a last resort, I = ordered a new (it's on backorder) standby battery and hope that it will = solve the problem. From reading the Technical Service Manuals, I think the 701s may come = equipped with the wrong type of standby battery. Every other ThinkPad = IBM makes uses a 3 volt or higher standard battery but the 701 comes = with a 1.2 volt NiMh standby battery(that's what mine comes with). = Unless the 701's got a voltage step-up circuit, I don't know if it's = enough voltage to keep the memory alive when the main battery is = removed. This may be the cause. But I can't be sure without a schematic = or taking my ThinkPad apart to do some tests. We will see if the new standby battery works when it arrives. Eddy -----Original Message----- From: Greg Alvandian [SMTP:slppj@cc.usu.edu] Sent: Saturday, April 12, 1997 4:31 PM To: ThinkPad Mailing list Subject: Non-disruptive swap on 701cs I have had a problem with not being able to reliably perform a non-disruptive battery swap on my 701cs since I bought it almost exactly one year ago. This problem has resisted four attempts to Easyserv to fix and still it persisted. I just recently sent it to customer relations so, get this, they could send it to easyserv. Any how I haven't gotten it back yet but I got a message on my answering machine from an IBM tech who says it's not a hardware problem but instead due to Win95 APM. He said that disabling APM has solved it. Well I'm extremely sceptical about this as this problem has persisted since I first bought the machine and they haven't done anything different to it this fifth time. Coupled with the fact that I've only recently upgraded to Win 95 and I've had the same problem consistenly in DOS, OS/2 Warp, and win3.1. So it sounds like IBM is trying to feed me a line so it relieves them of the burden. Not to mention the fact that win95 is supposedly "ThinkPad Proven." =20 I would like to know if anyone else has had any problems performing a non-disruptive battery swap (putting the computer into suspend and then swapping out the battery and merely opening the lid to unsuspend). More importantly I'd like to know if anyone running Win95 with APM enabled, has had any problems like this, or rather if they have had no problems doing this. -Greg A. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 13 23:11:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA059647505; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 23:11:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13995; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 23:11:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Apr 1997 23:08:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13686; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 23:08:44 -0400 Received: from GRUMPY.USU.EDU (grumpy.usu.edu [129.123.1.86]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13675; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 23:08:40 -0400 Received: from slppj.usu.edu (asy04.xy1.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01IHO5STJ9728ZI1UO@cc.usu.edu>; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:08:32 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 11:09:19 -0600 From: Greg Alvandian Subject: Re: Non-disruptive swap on 701cs To: Eddy Lin Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <3351133F.1E6C@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <01BC4841.F16C1E00@ibmtp701c.lin.org> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu An update to the non-disruptive swap problem. I got the computer back late on saturday and I'm just now putting it through it's paces. I have to call the technician on monday to see exactly what was done but it seems to be working correctly now. The message on my answering machine from the tech indicated that he had disabled APM, and the battery icon in the tray and in control panel is gone, however in device manager it indicates that power management is still enabled, force APM 1.0 was checked and I unchecked it and it still seems to work. I unchecked the force APM 1.0 becuase that forces the computer to use the old win3.1 APM standards which, according to a paper from IBM, is not neccessary because the 701 has been tested and proven fully compatible with APM 1.1 and this does now appear to work so I'm not sure what the tech disabled besides the little battery meter icon. If it is infact fixed then I'll be ecstatic as it took five trips to easyserv and finally a tech at customer relations to figure out the problem, not to mention several systemboard and battery replacements. Well it's time toput the machine through its paces to see if it acts up again. But I'm still interested in hearing if anyone else has this problem and their configuration. Eddy Lin wrote: > > > From reading the Technical Service Manuals, I think the 701s may come equipped with the wrong type of standby battery. Every other ThinkPad IBM makes uses a 3 volt or higher standard battery but the 701 comes with a 1.2 volt NiMh standby battery(that's what mine comes with). Unless the 701's got a voltage step-up circuit, I don't know if it's enough voltage to keep the memory alive when the main battery is removed. This may be the cause. But I can't be sure without a schematic or taking my Thin > We will see if the new standby battery works when it arrives. > > Eddy From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 00:50:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA099223449; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:50:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22007; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:50:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:47:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21711; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:47:03 -0400 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21701; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:46:55 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx12-20.teleport.com [206.163.124.117]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA22081; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 21:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704140446.VAA22081@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: Non-disruptive swap on 701cs Cc: allied@teleport.com Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Eddy, I suppose there is no easy way at this stand-by battery? Bryan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 02:16:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA134688615; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 02:16:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA27265; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 02:16:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 02:14:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26715; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 02:14:02 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26669; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 02:13:55 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA05579; Sun, 13 Apr 97 20:13:54 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA11426; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:14:49 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199704140614.UAA11426@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Various To: kim@mak.com Date: Sun, 13 Apr 97 20:14:48 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "John Kim" at Apr 13, 97 1:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I wrote (w/r to power use by w/b vs. b/w displays): > > This is not what my power meter reported. John Kim replied: > I don't trust the built-in meter. It seems to key off the > voltage it picks up from the battery and run it through some > strange formulas based on disk activity, keyboard activity, > screen configuration, etc. Well, it still reported a difference on w/b vs. b/w displays. Whatever it is basing that on, I assume it is either some real difference in current draw, or some IBM tech's belief that w/b is more efficiant than b/w. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 08:38:49 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA278291528; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:38:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29846; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:37:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:30:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29098; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:30:40 -0400 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29079; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:30:35 -0400 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:30:30 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: TP 560: two questions To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:30:30 +0200 (MES) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I need a new and light machine but I still can't make up my mind. Here are two questions: 1. If you had to pay roughly the same for either the TP560 with P120, 8MB, 810 MB, TFT or the TP560 with P133, 8MB, 2GB, DSTN which model would you buy? I know that TFT is definitely better but 810MB isn't a lot of diskspace if you need two operating systems. Given that there is no 2nd level cache, will you notice the performance difference between both processors? 2. Is anybody running XFree on the DSTN model? I know that there are no problems with the X Server on the TFT model but I also know that there have been problems with older DSTN machines (and if there are no patches I'll be lost...) Thanks Christoph Eyrich PS: The other machine I was thinking about is the HP Omnibook 800. From a technical point of view the machine is clearly superior (built-in SCSI port, 2nd level cache) plus it is being backed by a 3 year warranty... But: the screen pales in comparison to the 560 TFT one and the keyboard isn't quite comfortable... _______________________________________________ eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 08:44:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA280561839; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:43:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00668; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:43:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:41:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00462; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:41:04 -0400 Received: from devil.prz.tu-berlin.de (michey@devil.prz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.62.214]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00447; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:40:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (michey@localhost) by devil.prz.tu-berlin.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA18726; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:38:38 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: devil.prz.tu-berlin.de: michey owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:38:36 +0200 (MEST) From: Michael Eyrich To: John Kim Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: various In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, did you try "xset" without any parameters? [...] To set mouse acceleration and threshold: m [acc_mult[/acc_div] [thr]] m default [...] ./Michael Eyrich TU-Berlin On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, John Kim wrote: | around at a decent speed. Linux is OK although I'd like it to | be a little faster (anyone know how to set that in FVWM?). I From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 10:14:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA019697290; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:14:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09407; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:14:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:11:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08958; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:10:59 -0400 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (CNRI.Reston.VA.US [132.151.1.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08945; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:10:53 -0400 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa10848; 14 Apr 97 10:13 EDT Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA01283; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:10:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:10:18 -0400 Message-Id: <199704141410.KAA01283@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> From: Ken Manheimer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: John Kim Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: various - Linux mouse acceleration X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US X-Mailer: VM 6.22 / 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives In-Reply-To: <9704122303.AA02729@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu John Kim wrote: > On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, David Ross wrote: > [...] > > > 3. Re trackpoint caps, I find the cats tongue ones wear out after > > > a few tens of hours of moderate use. > > > > I get months out of mine, and I'm a heavy mouser. However, I never > > touch the cap unless I'm actually moving it, and I use a very light > > touch. > > I suspect this may all depend on the range of mouse sensitivities > allowed in the OS/programs we're using. I remember OS/2's mouse > settings were pretty slow even at the fastest setting, causing > me to put a lot of pressure on the cap to move the pointer > around at a decent speed. Linux is OK although I'd like it to > be a little faster (anyone know how to set that in FVWM?). I > could never set Win95's acceleration to a level I liked. It > always seemed I was jumping between super-slow to super- > accelerated. I think you use xset for that. (That's the way it's been on linux, though i haven't checked in a while, and don't have a linux system handy at the moment.) Incidentally, i have to mention that i'm a big trackpoint fan. I even splurged on an ibm trackpoint keyboard for my desktop pc - expensive, and clicky keys (which i don't prefer) - but totally worth it... Ken Manheimer klm@python.org From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 10:26:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA024148013; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:26:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10906; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:26:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:23:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10426; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:23:30 -0400 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10405; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:23:22 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx03-23.teleport.com [206.163.123.88]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA21817 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 07:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 07:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704141423.HAA21817@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: various - Linux mouse acceleration Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Would you say what the keyboard cost? I hate to ask. Besides the noise how is the feel of Tackpoint and keys? BD From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 12:21:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA075014885; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:21:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22634; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:19:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:15:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22025; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:15:22 -0400 Received: from mail3.access.digex.net (mail3.access.digex.net [205.197.247.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21971; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:15:13 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail3.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA06202 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04238; Mon, 14 Apr 97 12:20:17 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id MAA19322 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:20:16 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:20:16 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle Reply-To: John Kim To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: various - Linux mouse acceleration In-Reply-To: <199704141410.KAA01283@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Ken Manheimer wrote: > > I think you use xset for that. (That's the way it's been on linux, > though i haven't checked in a while, and don't have a linux system > handy at the moment.) Thanks to everyone who sent me the tip about xset. That's one of the frustrating things about Linux. You spend an hour grep'ing every man page you can think of that might have what you're looking for, and it's somewhere else. Now if I can just figure out why xset isn't on my system... :) > Incidentally, i have to mention that i'm a big trackpoint fan. I even > splurged on an ibm trackpoint keyboard for my desktop pc - expensive, > and clicky keys (which i don't prefer) - but totally worth it... Speaking of which, I'm really happy with the glidepoint keyboard. As I mentioned, the trackpoint needs a lot of pressure under some OSes, and I suspect it was a contributing cause to the RSI I suffered my first year in grad school. The glidepoint is great - no pressure needed. I only wish some engineer had gotten the bright idea of putting *it* in the middle of the "natural" keyboard, instead of those uselessly redundant W95 buttons. It's amazing how much faster you work when you don't have to take your hands off the keyboard. -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 12:31:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA079715461; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:31:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23867; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:29:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:26:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23599; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:26:44 -0400 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23587; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:26:36 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA01057; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:25:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:25:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199704141625.LAA01057@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com> Received: from sjx-ca10-06.ix.netcom.com(199.182.128.70) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma000929; Mon Apr 14 11:24:27 1997 From: krosen@ix.netcom.com (Kenneth Rosenblatt) Subject: Re: TP 560: two questions To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Chris: I spent quite some time agonizing over this very issue and just bought a dual-scan. Note first, however, that I think that your premise is wrong. I very much doubt that you can find that P120 TFT for the same price as the P133 dual-scan, at least in the United States. There are a few places in New York City advertising the P120s for $3,000, but call them and you'll find that they don't have them, or are "expecting them soon and taking orders." From comments on the Net, I've concluded that those folks are not to be trusted and may well ship you a used machine. Check Deja News before you buy from any of them. Of course, I don't know the market in Berlin. My local dealers (CA) were quoting closer to $3,600, even for the 120s. The T-Zone, a superstore in Silicon Valley, is selling the old 133 TFT, 1.08 gig, for $3,800, which is the best price I could find from an established outfit; they have them in stock. If you are able to get the 120 for about the same price, I'd buy it. I just ordered a P133 dual-scan with 1.08 gig from IBM (this is the original 133MH with the smaller hard drive). If you can find an IBM employee who will let you use his/her serial number (IBM *allows* this under their "friends and family" program), you can pick it up for $2,239. Note that IBM is temporarily out of 16MB modules for the 560; I bought one (Kingston) for $150 (incl. shipping) from Insight. According to an IBM Easyserve employee active on this list (who shall remain nameless), the dual-scan is the same screen used on the 365X. That screen isn't bad looking, but clearly not as nice as the larger and brighter TFT on the 133s. However, I just can't justify the price differential. As for hard disk real estate, maybe a PC Card drive? If anyone else finds the TFT 120 for $3,000, do me a favor--don't tell me about it. And if IBM starts offering it to friends and family within the next two weeks, I'm going to do bodily harm to the rep who said he didn't know when that would happen. Ah, such is computing. :) Ken Rosenblatt You wrote: > >I need a new and light machine but I still can't make up >my mind. Here are two questions: > >1. If you had to pay roughly the same for either the > >TP560 with P120, 8MB, 810 MB, TFT > >or the > >TP560 with P133, 8MB, 2GB, DSTN > >which model would you buy? I know that TFT is definitely >better but 810MB isn't a lot of diskspace if you need >two operating systems. >Given that there is no 2nd level cache, will you >notice the performance difference between both processors? > >2. Is anybody running XFree on the DSTN model? I know >that there are no problems with the X Server on the TFT >model but I also know that there have been problems >with older DSTN machines (and if there are no patches >I'll be lost...) > >Thanks > >Christoph Eyrich > > >PS: The other machine I was thinking about is the >HP Omnibook 800. From a technical point of view the >machine is clearly superior (built-in SCSI port, >2nd level cache) plus it is being backed by a 3 year >warranty... But: the screen pales in comparison >to the 560 TFT one and the keyboard isn't quite >comfortable... >_______________________________________________ > >eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 13:34:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA108559294; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:34:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24717; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:34:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:31:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24210; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:31:10 -0400 Received: from odot.okladot.state.ok.us ([192.149.244.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24165; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:31:00 -0400 Received: from dsadsm.okladot.state.ok.us by odot.okladot.state.ok.us (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22222; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:30:21 -0500 Received: from dsibm.okladot.state.ok.us by dsadsm.okladot.state.ok.us (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA73084; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:32:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9704141632.AA73084@dsadsm.okladot.state.ok.us> Date: Mon 14 Apr 1997 11:25 CT To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: UFD8002@DSIBM.OKLADOT.STATE.OK.US (Mike.Smith ) Subject: irc/2 Topic: 755cd Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Are anyother chat programs besides irc/2 available for os2warp ver. 3.? I have another computer with win95 which is using perch, but I do not know if that is available for os2. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks Mike From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 13:53:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA116430424; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:53:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02548; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:52:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:48:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01990; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:48:54 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01979; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:48:48 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-b-71.usc.edu [128.125.222.71]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id KAA14828; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970414102650.014a5ffc@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:49:41 -0700 To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: TP 560: two questions Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 02:30 PM 4/14/97 +0200, Christoph Eyrich wrote: >1. If you had to pay roughly the same for either the > >TP560 with P120, 8MB, 810 MB, TFT > >or the > >TP560 with P133, 8MB, 2GB, DSTN > >which model would you buy? I know that TFT is definitely >better but 810MB isn't a lot of diskspace if you need >two operating systems. >Given that there is no 2nd level cache, will you >notice the performance difference between both processors? Nada--well, at least minimal. As far as the CPU goes, the difference in speed is about 10%. I really wouldn't consider that a real factor in the decision. What it boils down to is whether you're willing to trade off the less-attractive screen for the bigger hard drive (or conversely, the nicer screen for the smaller HD). I look at it this way: You can always upgrade your hard drive, but you'll never be able to upgrade your screen. If the 810 MB will get you by for a while, go with that one--you can always get a bigger HD later. As for screens, I'm partial to the TFT's--especially now that the price difference between a DSTN model and a TFT model (all else equal) is about $500. To me, that's a difference worth paying. Maybe I'm just spoiled--I'm the guy who got a 750 Dual Scan and then returned it for a TFT model and have never looked back since--I've since bought a 701 and a 560, both TFT's. No regrets. For what its worth, I have the first config. you describe. Its been 7 or 8 months and only now (that I see a great deal on a 2.1 GB drive) am I thinking of getting a HD upgrade. But at least that's an option to me, unlike a screen upgrade if you had the DSTN. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 14:05:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA121561129; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:05:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03796; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:04:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:02:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03566; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:02:13 -0400 Received: from doblegate.doble.com (doblegate.doble.com [204.215.186.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03547; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:02:05 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 35262540; Mon, 14 Apr 97 12:59:00 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:58:47 -0400 Message-Id: <35262540@doblegate.doble.com> Subject: Want to sell a 540mb HD, but how much is it worth? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I am in the process of replacing my 540mb HD with a 1080mb HD in my TP365ED. It is a DBOA-2540 Travelstar Drive (2.5 inch drive that is 12.5mm high). The 365ED does not use a caddy so it is a bare drive. I chuckled when I looked at the IBM Direct price list and see that the 540mb HD is about $200 more than the 1080mb one. Does this mean that I can sell mine for half what IBM wants for a new one. ($315?) 8->. I realize that you pay for having a high capacity drive in a small footprint but I would expect a new 540 drive to sell for around $275 if a new 1080 is $450. If all goes well I will be putting it on the market next week. Now that I have my own 365ED instead of just supporting the companies 750cs I am really glad I subscribed to the list. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com -or- eac@shore.net (sometimes the doble address bounces) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 14:14:13 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA125371652; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:14:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04848; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:13:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:10:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04547; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:10:36 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04530; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:10:30 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA06859; Mon, 14 Apr 97 08:10:27 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA12963; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:11:23 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199704141811.IAA12963@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: TP 560: two questions To: rwhittle@usa.net (Randy Whittle) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 97 8:11:11 HST Cc: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970414102650.014a5ffc@scf.usc.edu>; from "Randy Whittle" at Apr 14, 97 10:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Randy says: > I look at it this way: You can always upgrade your hard drive, but you'll > never be able to upgrade your screen. If the 810 MB will get you by for a > while, go with that one--you can always get a bigger HD later. > > As for screens, I'm partial to the TFT's--especially now that the price > difference between a DSTN model and a TFT model (all else equal) is about > $500.` I think it is more like $1500 nowadays - IBM recently slashed prices on the DSTN models, with little drop on the TFT models. However, I agree on screens - I would much rather have the 10.5" TFT screen on my 701 (which disappears forever this week, alas) than the 11.3" DSTN on my 560 (which I'm just getting acclimated to). If someone offered me an omnibus paribus swap of my 560 P133 2gig for a 560 P100 810mb 12.1"TFT, I'd take it. During a conference last summer I shared a flat with a colleague with a HP Omnibook 800. I thought it was a *very* nice machine: 2nd best form factor in the business (after the TP701), bright screen, good keyboard. I even liked the popout mouse, though in that I am apparently in the minority. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 16:25:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA182419511; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:25:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14818; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:46:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:42:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14258; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:42:20 -0400 Received: from emout23.mail.aol.com (emout23.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.128]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14238; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:42:14 -0400 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout23.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id PAA08279; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:41:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:41:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970414152641_-500430288@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: cja@usa.net, rwhittle@usa.net, kim@mak.com Cc: Mitchell_Yee@jud.ca.gov, phr@netcom.com, lestewa@ibm.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: trackpoint caps? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Do the caps you buy last as long? Is the traction/grip as good? John Ruda http://www.cybercom.net/~ruda/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 16:33:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA186439997; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:33:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18262; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:14:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:10:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17654; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:10:50 -0400 Received: from netcom19.netcom.com (phr@netcom19.netcom.com [192.100.81.132]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17633; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:10:42 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id NAA03569; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:10:32 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:10:32 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199704142010.NAA03569@netcom19.netcom.com> To: Disneyjazz@aol.com Subject: Re: trackpoint caps? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu [Toshiba caps] Do the caps you buy last as long? Is the traction/grip as good? I'm of the impression that the smooth caps (Toshiba uses them and IBM used to use them) last longer than the cats-tongue caps, but the traction/grip is not as good. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 22:40:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA044682004; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:40:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21343; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:38:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:33:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20719; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:33:49 -0400 Received: from AST01.ligsystems.com (slip166-72-214-230.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.214.230]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20709; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:33:44 -0400 Received: by AST01.ligsystems.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id TAA000.73; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:33:31 -0400 Message-Id: <199704142333.TAA000.73@AST01.ligsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 97 19:31:33 -0800 From: laniear@ibm.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: irc/2 X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <62_150_4_861060693> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Internet Explorer has chat built-in. Lee > Are anyother chat programs besides irc/2 available for os2warp ver. 3.? > I have another computer with win95 which is using perch, but I do not know if > that is available for os2. > > Any information would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Mike > ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 14 23:18:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA060864315; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:18:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25296; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:16:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:14:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24877; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:14:24 -0400 Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu (martigny.ai.mit.edu [18.43.0.152]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24867; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:14:20 -0400 Received: from flenser.ai.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA058574058; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:14:18 -0400 Received: by flenser.ai.mit.edu id m0wGyhF-0001bWC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:14:17 -0400 (EDT) From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: laniear@ibm.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199704142333.TAA000.73@AST01.ligsystems.com> (laniear@ibm.net) Subject: irc/2 X-Mailer: Edwin [version 3.91, MIT Scheme Release 7.5a] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 14 Apr 97 19:31:33 -0800 From: laniear@ibm.net Internet Explorer has chat built-in. > Are anyother chat programs besides irc/2 available for os2warp > ver. 3.? I have another computer with win95 which is using > perch, but I do not know if that is available for os2. There's probably an alternate universe somewhere in which Microsoft has ported IE to OS/2. But in this universe, I think it has the same probability as "hell freezing over". Or maybe it's something like "over Bill's dead body". I guess you're not an OS/2 user. I'm not trying to be unpleasant, or to demean you. But for those of us who use OS/2, the Microsoft war against OS/2 is, unfortunately, a central fact of our computing lives. What scares me is the idea that Bill will decide that Linux is worthy of some similar "attention". I'm not sure what he could do about it (Give away all MS software in a spirit of sharing? That'll teach those scruffy bastards!), but I don't really want to find out, either. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 15 00:49:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA099719791; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:49:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02738; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:49:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:45:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02307; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:45:04 -0400 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA02274; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:44:57 -0400 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-121-50.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.121.50]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA11837; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704150444.VAA11837@mail-gw.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Cc: "Tom Franklin (Home)" Subject: FS: 1.1GB Thinkpad 760/75x/360 Drive $325 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:38:01 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thinkpad Laptop Drive -- $325 -Thinkpad Drive PN 29H9324 -IBM (Model DSOA-21080) 12mm drive in IBM Thinkpad 760 caddy -1083MB Capacity (2100 Cyl, 16 Hd, 63 Sect) -13 ms Access Time, Mode 4 (16.6 MB/s) Transfers, 4000 RPM -Drive installed in Thinkpad 760/750/755/360 caddy -No Bad Sectors This is the drive that came in my TP760E (Thin Model) and presumably is still covered under the remainder of my three year warranty. Works great in my Thinkpad TP760E, but I upgraded to a 1.4GB drive. For an extra $15 I'll throw in an adapter that allows the drive to fit better in older Thinkpads. Without this adapter, the drive will still work fine. You may have to upgrade to the latest BIOS to get this working in your older Thinkpads. See http://www1.ibmlink.ibm.com/HTML/SPEC/g2216022.html for more info on the drive assembly including caddy. See http://www.storage.ibm.com./storage/techsup/hddtech/dsoa/dsoatek.htm for more info on the drive inside the caddy. Prices other people want for this drive: $955: http://direct.boulder.ibm.com/us/parts/thinkpad/tpad760e.htm $799: http://www.insight.com/cgi-bin/bp/385421813/web/result.html?a=s&f=p&t=A&d=ib m+thinkpad+drive Price includes UPS ground shipping and COD charges to US addresses. \\|||// (o) (o) =========.oOO==( )==OOo.=========== || || || Thomas D. Franklin || || mailto:tomfrank@pacbell.net || || || || .oooO Oooo. || ==========( )===( )============ \ ( ) / \_) (_/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 15 01:04:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA105880675; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:04:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03998; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:03:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:00:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03640; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:00:47 -0400 Received: from megspo1.megsinet.net (megspo.megsinet.net [206.222.62.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03596; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:00:39 -0400 Received: from randolphmax3-117.megsinet.net ([208.133.79.117]) by megspo1.megsinet.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11704) with SMTP id AAA76; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:59:14 -0500 Received: by randolphmax3-117.megsinet.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4930.60122130@randolphmax3-117.megsinet.net>; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:02:57 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC4930.60122130@randolphmax3-117.megsinet.net> From: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) To: "'Randy Whittle'" , John Kim , "'Chris Alba'" Cc: Mitchell Yee , Paul Rubin , "Lee A. Stewart" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: trackpoint caps? Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:13:15 -0500 Encoding: 16 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu IBM and most other retailers just suck when it comes to caps. Three seems to last me a year. At least I get tired of the worn out one every few months. Getting replacements just sucks. Tip, if you send your machine to EZserv, take your cap off, they will most likely put a new one on (but you didn;t hear that from me). I have been told that WinBook and Tosh caps work well, but neither have the cats-tounge. Frankly I like the feel of the roughness. I don;t care for the pure gum ones, I feel like there's snot on the cap. I have been on an endless search for caps locally, none of the IBM authorized retail or computer superstores seem to have ANY caps of any variety. The do however have EVERY freaking accesory known to man for laptops, except for the caps. They could charge double and I would still buy them just to avoid the hassle of ordering and waiting. Just my two bits. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 15 01:05:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA106250735; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:05:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04042; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:03:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:00:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03641; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:00:47 -0400 Received: from megspo1.megsinet.net (megspo.megsinet.net [206.222.62.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03586; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:00:37 -0400 Received: from randolphmax3-117.megsinet.net ([208.133.79.117]) by megspo1.megsinet.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11704) with SMTP id AAA187; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:59:07 -0500 Received: by randolphmax3-117.megsinet.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4930.5CD593D0@randolphmax3-117.megsinet.net>; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:02:52 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC4930.5CD593D0@randolphmax3-117.megsinet.net> From: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "'Christoph Eyrich'" Subject: RE: TP 560: two questions Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:06:36 -0500 Encoding: 24 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a tough call.... IMHO: How a screen looks has little bearing on how well you get your work done. RAM and HD and general system configuration has more impact than video. Video you get used to, much easier I might add than heart sickening swapping due to little RAM. As the system buss speeds are faser in the P133/P150 variety I would sugest the P133 with the extra stuff, even though DSTN. As far as performance, I am quite pleased with the P133. Between 560/P133/2Gb/DSTN and the Omni book, tough call. What is you brand alliance. (Personally I have decided to boycot HP due to their poor position on encription). Take into consideration the warrantee very carefully. IBM offers a service plan for about $220/yr on the 560's after the first year. Compare that to the ratings and service you might get from HP. Despite all the hassles I went through with my 701, I can honestly say (an not because IBM is twisting my arm) I would buy an IBM again. I will even splurge for the service contract on my 560. I would suggest any laptop buyer to seriously consider IBM even though they are at a premium of cost. They have a GREAT track record. EZSERV has been quie fast for the most part and tech support is usually ok. Good luck with your decision. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 15 10:02:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA008952974; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:02:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19621; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:01:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 09:56:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18841; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 09:56:20 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18780; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 09:56:07 -0400 Received: from ssh.noc.interop.net (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA26208 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:59:11 -0600 Message-Id: <335388F2.8272010C@wwsi.com> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:56:02 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: trackpoint caps? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <01BC4930.60122130@randolphmax3-117.megsinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ...and hear I thought I had sweaty hands. I still have the same cap on my 760 E that came on it when I first unpackaged it in October. It's getting a little worn, but it's not ready for replacement, yet, and I use it about 8-10 hours a day every day. So, it's clear, YMMV! -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 15 10:32:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA021184745; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:32:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22613; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:32:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:29:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22366; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:29:46 -0400 Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com (brickbat9.mindspring.com [207.69.200.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22354; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:29:41 -0400 Received: from user-37kb953.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb953.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.163]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA08470; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704151426.KAA08470@brickbat9.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "Chris Alba" , "Dennis Pantazis" , "John Kim" , "Randy Whittle" Cc: "Lee A. Stewart" , "Mitchell Yee" , "Paul Rubin" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 15 Apr 97 09:57:02 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: trackpoint caps? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If you call the help desk at 800-772-2227 They have a phone no that you can request free TP caps. I am at home & I don't have the number with me. On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:13:15 -0500, Dennis Pantazis wrote: >IBM and most other retailers just suck when it comes to caps. Three seems >to last me a year. At least I get tired of the worn out one every few >months. Getting replacements just sucks. Tip, if you send your machine to >EZserv, take your cap off, they will most likely put a new one on (but you >didn;t hear that from me). I have been told that WinBook and Tosh caps >work well, but neither have the cats-tounge. Frankly I like the feel of >the roughness. I don;t care for the pure gum ones, I feel like there's >snot on the cap. > >I have been on an endless search for caps locally, none of the IBM >authorized retail or computer superstores seem to have ANY caps of any >variety. The do however have EVERY freaking accesory known to man for >laptops, except for the caps. They could charge double and I would still >buy them just to avoid the hassle of ordering and waiting. > >Just my two bits. > jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 15 12:58:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA084143489; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:58:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06948; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:57:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:52:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06539; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:52:54 -0400 Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com (brickbat9.mindspring.com [207.69.200.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06527; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:52:50 -0400 Received: from tomcat133 (ip45.princeton.nj.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.56.45]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA29157 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970415125306.0070b650@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: dspeed@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:53:21 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Dave Speed Subject: Future Think Pads Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I spotted this on Infoworld Electric ================================================== IBM to consolidate desktop lines, overhaul ThinkPad design By Dan Briody InfoWorld Electric Posted at 1:25 PM PT, Apr 10, 1997 IBM is taking a series of steps in both its desktop and portable product lines intended to make buying an IBM PC easier. [snip - desktop stuff deleted] Also in the plans for IBM is a major redesign of the ThinkPad notebook computer line, expected to improve performance and reliability as well as to bring the machines more in line with typical portable form factors. Among the features to be included in upcoming ThinkPads are 15 millimeter removable Zip drives, eventually to be included across the entire product line, and a removable dual CD-ROM/floppy drive module for the ThinkPad 360 line, according to company officials. Keyboards will also be redesigned, with the company opting to go with more traditional laptop keyboards over the ThinkPads' current raised keyboard. IBM is expected to use Intel as the motherboard manufacturing house, rather than use its own facilities, and will provide an easy upgrade path for CPUs in the new notebooks for a longer product cycle and reduced cost. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 15 13:40:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA102886028; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:40:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10004; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:40:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:37:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09725; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:37:26 -0400 Received: from slipgate.keysolutions.com (kenyee.xensei.com [204.96.52.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09670; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:36:59 -0400 Received: by slipgate.keysolutions.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1b1 (341.15 3-12-1997)) id 8525647A.00609617 ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:34:58 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: KEY ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS From: "Ken K. Yee" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <8525647A.006077D5.00@slipgate.keysolutions.com> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:34:47 -0400 Subject: Re: Future Think Pads Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > IBM is expected to use Intel as the motherboard > manufacturing house, rather than use its own facilities, > and will provide an easy upgrade path for CPUs in the > new notebooks for a longer product cycle and reduced cost. Sounds like the portable pentium (Descutes?) modules from Intel. Any idea when this redesign will come to fruition? ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 15 13:55:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA109576936; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:55:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11457; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:54:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:52:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11202; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:52:13 -0400 Received: from gte.com (h132-197-8-26.gte.com [132.197.8.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11172; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:52:01 -0400 Received: from johanna.gte.com by gte.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970415134928.0087ee60@pophost.gte.com> X-Sender: jls5@pophost.gte.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:49:29 -0400 To: Dave Speed From: Jeff Sokolov Subject: Re: Future Think Pads Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks for this very interesting article. I was trying to find the complete article but searches at www.infoworld.com under "IBM Thinkpad" and "Briody" did not return this article. In the future, I would like to recommend that people include URLs in post such as these. Thanks, Jeff At 12:53 PM 4/15/97 -0400, you wrote: >I spotted this on Infoworld Electric >================================================== > >IBM to consolidate desktop lines, overhaul ThinkPad design > >By Dan Briody >InfoWorld Electric > >Posted at 1:25 PM PT, Apr 10, 1997 > >IBM is taking a series of steps in both its desktop and portable product >lines intended to make buying an IBM PC easier. > >[snip - desktop stuff deleted] > >Also in the plans for IBM is a major redesign of the ThinkPad notebook >computer line, expected to improve performance and reliability as well as >to bring the machines more in line with typical portable form factors. > >Among the features to be included in upcoming ThinkPads are 15 millimeter >removable Zip drives, eventually to be included across the entire product >line, and a removable dual CD-ROM/floppy drive module for the ThinkPad 360 >line, according to company officials. Keyboards will also be redesigned, >with the company opting to go with more traditional laptop keyboards over >the ThinkPads' current raised keyboard. > >IBM is expected to use Intel as the motherboard manufacturing house, rather >than use its own facilities, and will provide an easy upgrade path for CPUs >in the new notebooks for a longer product cycle and reduced cost. > > ----------------------------------------------- Jeff Sokolov (jsokolov@gte.com) Senior Member of the Technical Staff Service Concept and Design Department GTE Laboratories Incorporated 40 Sylvan Road, MS 38 Waltham, MA 02154 (617) 466-4042 (phone) (617) 466-4035 (fax) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 15 14:07:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA115417637; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:07:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12800; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:06:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:03:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12477; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:03:10 -0400 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12443; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:03:02 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id NAA12386 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA4113; Tue, 15 Apr 97 13:58:37 -0700 Message-Id: <9704152058.AA4113@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 2D6A2FE013F6F37E8525647A0061E35A; Tue, 15 Apr 97 13:58:37 EDT To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 15 Apr 97 13:57:00 EDT Subject: toshiba laptop list X-Lotus-Type: Memo w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu toshiba-laps@vmedia.com it's up & running. to subscribe, send email to "majordomo@vmedia.com" with no subject, and the following line in the body: subscribe toshiba-laps your@email.address i've already subscribed the couple dozen who responded to me last week. everyone seemed to agree that it should cover all toshiba laptop models. if any of you monitor toshiba laptop forums on the web, compuserve, etc., feel free to let them know about the new list. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Don't be afraid to go out on a limb. . That's where the fruit is. . -Jackson Browne . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 15 16:33:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA182946405; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:33:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21262; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:22:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:17:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20365; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:17:42 -0400 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20339; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:17:32 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id MAA25983 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:17:19 -0700 Received: from hi-av2.cadence.com(158.140.128.32) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma861131838.025980; Tue Apr 15 12:17:18 1997 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (sj4a-48.cadence.com [158.140.31.58]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA10933 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704151913.MAA10933@mailhub.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Don Perley Subject: Re: Future Think Pads Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >> IBM is expected to use Intel as the motherboard >> manufacturing house, rather than use its own facilities, >> and will provide an easy upgrade path for CPUs in the >> new notebooks for a longer product cycle and reduced cost. I guess that means we can kiss off any notion of alternate CPU's like PPC, Cyrex, AMD. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 15 16:47:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA189207239; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:47:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21260; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:22:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:17:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20401; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:17:49 -0400 Received: from AST01.ligsystems.com (slip166-72-214-162.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.214.162]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20372; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:17:43 -0400 Received: by AST01.ligsystems.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id MAA001.09; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:17:28 -0400 Message-Id: <199704151617.MAA001.09@AST01.ligsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 97 12:13:04 -0800 From: laniear@ibm.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: irc/2 X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <108_156_4_861120784> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Actually I've been an OS/2 user since version 1.0 SE. I'm also an IBM business partner, however you are right, I meant to say Internet Adventurer. Sorry, I don't know what came over me. (BTW, I also went to Camp Cambridge.) Lee > Internet Explorer has chat built-in. > > > Are anyother chat programs besides irc/2 available for os2warp > > ver. 3.? I have another computer with win95 which is using > > perch, but I do not know if that is available for os2. > > There's probably an alternate universe somewhere in which Microsoft > has ported IE to OS/2. But in this universe, I think it has the same > probability as "hell freezing over". Or maybe it's something like > "over Bill's dead body". > > I guess you're not an OS/2 user. > > I'm not trying to be unpleasant, or to demean you. But for those of > us who use OS/2, the Microsoft war against OS/2 is, unfortunately, a > central fact of our computing lives. > > What scares me is the idea that Bill will decide that Linux is worthy > of some similar "attention". I'm not sure what he could do about it > (Give away all MS software in a spirit of sharing? That'll teach > those scruffy bastards!), but I don't really want to find out, either. > ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 15 21:25:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA011193950; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:25:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24351; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:25:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:22:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24022; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:22:16 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24012; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:22:12 -0400 Received: from mypc.usc.edu (comserv-e-61.usc.edu [128.125.222.205]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id SAA22912; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970415182311.0147e5f4@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:23:18 -0700 To: Don Perley From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Future Think Pads Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 12:13 PM 4/15/97 -0700, Don Perley wrote: > >>> IBM is expected to use Intel as the motherboard >>> manufacturing house, rather than use its own facilities, >>> and will provide an easy upgrade path for CPUs in the >>> new notebooks for a longer product cycle and reduced cost. > >I guess that means we can kiss off any notion of alternate CPU's >like PPC, Cyrex, AMD. You didn't seriously think IBM was going to use anything but, did you? They're a premium brand--they'll use premium brand parts. The only exception to Intel chips in the ThinkPad line was IBM's own licensed-from-Intel chip. But basically, this is part of the value proposition IBM makes with their ThinkPads. But hey, I'm just a business guy. ;-) ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 15 23:58:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA071353129; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:58:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07703; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:56:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:51:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06818; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:51:41 -0400 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem169.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.169]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06807; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:51:29 -0400 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00434; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 20:50:04 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970415182311.0147e5f4@scf.usc.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 20:48:33 -0700 (PDT) From: derelict To: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Future Think Pads Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Don Perley Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On 16-Apr-97 Randy Whittle wrote: >At 12:13 PM 4/15/97 -0700, Don Perley wrote: [snip] >> >>I guess that means we can kiss off any notion of alternate CPU's >>like PPC, Cyrex, AMD. > > You didn't seriously think IBM was going to use anything but, did you? > > They're a premium brand--they'll use premium brand parts. The only >exception to Intel chips in the ThinkPad line was IBM's own >licensed-from-Intel chip Didn't the 8xx thinkpads have PPC processors and run Unix? -Mike. -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 16 01:33:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA112278804; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:33:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14205; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:32:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:30:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13750; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:30:01 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu (rho.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13739; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:29:55 -0400 Received: from ibmtp701c.lin.org ([128.97.149.28]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA56034 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:29:49 -0700 Received: by ibmtp701c.lin.org with Microsoft Mail id <01BC49EC.C441FE20@ibmtp701c.lin.org>; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:31:31 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC49EC.C441FE20@ibmtp701c.lin.org> From: Eddy Lin To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: TP701 HD Upgrade Successful Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:31:29 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Just to share some information for those of you who are think about = doing it but can't get any compatibility assurance from IBM. I have recently (last week actually) upgraded my 701C from its 540MB HD = to a IBM 3LP 1.44GB drive. Other than getting the right tool to remove = the screws from the caddy and the drive, the drive works the first time = I plugged it into its bay. I noticed the ribbon cable connector on the = caddy is even keyed so it's not possible to install the drive in the = wrong orientation. The only glitch that I find is that in Setup, it reports the drive as a = 369MB drive instead of 1369MB. But FDISK recognize the entire drive = capacity so it's nothing major. Apparently, the BIOS is hard coded to = display only 3 digits of the HD capacity. I have the latest version BIOS = (I think it's 13O or something). I hope this will help who needs a little more assurance before doing = their upgrade. A question from me: Does anyone know a source where I can get an = original IBM HD caddy for the TP701 (new or used)? IBM doesn't sell the = caddy along; at least not to the public. I've found companies that sell = third-party made caddies but I would prefer an original part if it's = available. I want to use my old 540MB drive sometimes. Thanks. Eddy Lin From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 16 01:33:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA112348811; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:33:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14200; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:32:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:30:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13845; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:30:18 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13828; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:30:14 -0400 Received: from ssh.noc.interop.net (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA30157; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:32:33 -0600 Message-Id: <335463B0.29FD68B9@wwsi.com> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:29:20 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: derelict Cc: Randy Whittle , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Don Perley Subject: Re: Future Think Pads X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu derelict wrote: > Didn't the 8xx thinkpads have PPC processors and run Unix? Well, the 8xx series "Thinkpads" were "Thinkpads" only in name. They were a different form factor, a different material, different architecture, just flat different. And they never got the power consumption down enough to make them more than toys (45-60 minutes on a battery?! Please!). Neat idea. But Linux makes it moot, anyway. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 16 07:35:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA250350529; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:35:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16731; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:34:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:32:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16575; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:31:59 -0400 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16564; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:31:54 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id EAA18892; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 04:31:52 -0700 Received: from hi-av1.cadence.com(158.140.128.31) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma861190311.018889; Wed Apr 16 04:31:51 1997 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (sj4a-13.cadence.com [158.140.31.23]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA00313; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 04:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 04:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704161131.EAA00313@mailhub.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: derelict From: Don Perley Subject: Re: Future Think Pads Cc: Randy Whittle , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >On 16-Apr-97 Randy Whittle wrote: >>At 12:13 PM 4/15/97 -0700, Don Perley wrote: >>>I guess that means we can kiss off any notion of alternate CPU's >>>like PPC, Cyrex, AMD. >> You didn't seriously think IBM was going to use anything but, did you? >> >> They're a premium brand--they'll use premium brand parts. The only >>exception to Intel chips in the ThinkPad line was IBM's own >>licensed-from-Intel chip Have they dropped the IBM 586 brand? They were badging those as part of the deal for fabbing the cyrex chips. >Didn't the 8xx thinkpads have PPC processors and run Unix? Yup. Someone said the question is moot thanks to Linux. Not to disparage any inherent qualities of Linux, but I would like a laptop that runs the software with which I make my living. It's available on PPC running AIX, but not Linux. -Don Perley > >-Mike. >-- >mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu >mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu >http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ > > perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 16 10:53:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA031162389; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:53:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03780; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:51:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:50:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03560; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:50:15 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03545; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:50:11 -0400 Received: from ssh.noc.interop.net (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA32067 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:53:17 -0600 Message-Id: <3354E71A.F448CEB7@wwsi.com> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:50:02 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Future Think Pads X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199704161131.EAA00313@mailhub.Cadence.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Don Perley wrote: > Yup. Someone said the question is moot thanks to Linux. Not to disparage > any inherent qualities of Linux, but I would like a laptop that runs the > software with which I make my living. It's available on PPC running AIX, > but not Linux. 'Twas I. You're right, of course. Unfortunately, that doesn't produce a mass market for IBM, and it seems that's what it takes before they'll consider a "real" offering in that arena. By "real", I mean one with features that compete with the Intel-based notebooks, especially in terms of battery life. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 16 11:04:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA035643069; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:04:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06098; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:03:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:02:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05857; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:02:19 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05842; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:02:15 -0400 Received: from ssh.noc.interop.net (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA32151 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:05:24 -0600 Message-Id: <3354E9F1.6E03D039@wwsi.com> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:02:09 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Future Think Pads X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3.0.32.19970416074147.014839c8@scf.usc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Randy Whittle wrote: > 586 "brand"? > > If they've cut a deal to fab with another chip mfgr. (i.e. Cyrix), that > would be whole different ball game entirely, as then the chip would at > least *partly* be an "IBM". This deal has been around for a couple of years, actually. IBM also mfrs Intel chips under a licensing deal with Intel. All the "Blue 586s" are Cyrix-designed chips mfred by IBM. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 16 11:22:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA043664145; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:22:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03316; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:47:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:44:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02689; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:44:00 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02669; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:43:55 -0400 Received: from mypc.usc.edu (comserv-h-08.usc.edu [128.125.224.8]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id HAA20460; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970416073322.01482360@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:45:15 -0700 To: derelict From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Future Think Pads Cc: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU, Don Perley Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:48 PM 4/15/97 -0700, derelict wrote: >>>I guess that means we can kiss off any notion of alternate CPU's >>>like PPC, Cyrex, AMD. >> >> You didn't seriously think IBM was going to use anything but, did you? >> >> They're a premium brand--they'll use premium brand parts. The only >>exception to Intel chips in the ThinkPad line was IBM's own >>licensed-from-Intel chip > >Didn't the 8xx thinkpads have PPC processors and run Unix? Yes, but that's an entirely different (non-consumer) market segment. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 16 11:23:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA044654212; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:23:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03312; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:47:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:43:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02668; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:43:56 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02617; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:43:49 -0400 Received: from mypc.usc.edu (comserv-h-08.usc.edu [128.125.224.8]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id HAA20482; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970416074147.014839c8@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:45:17 -0700 To: Don Perley From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Future Think Pads Cc: derelict , thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >>>>I guess that means we can kiss off any notion of alternate CPU's >>>>like PPC, Cyrex, AMD. > >>> You didn't seriously think IBM was going to use anything but, did you? >>> >>> They're a premium brand--they'll use premium brand parts. The only >>>exception to Intel chips in the ThinkPad line was IBM's own >>>licensed-from-Intel chip > >Have they dropped the IBM 586 brand? They were badging those as part of the >deal for fabbing the cyrex chips. 586 "brand"? If they've cut a deal to fab with another chip mfgr. (i.e. Cyrix), that would be whole different ball game entirely, as then the chip would at least *partly* be an "IBM". ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 16 11:24:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA045254289; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:24:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08631; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:24:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:22:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08451; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:22:46 -0400 Received: from kari.fm.unit.no (kari.fm.unit.no [129.241.26.200]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08425; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:22:38 -0400 Received: from euklid16.fm.unit.no (30256@euklid16.fm.unit.no [129.241.211.176]) by kari.fm.unit.no (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA04835; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:22:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (larsev@localhost) by euklid16.fm.unit.no (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id RAA03703; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:22:28 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: euklid16.fm.unit.no: larsev owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:22:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Lars Evensen To: derelict Cc: Randy Whittle , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Don Perley Subject: Re: Future Think Pads In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, derelict wrote: > > On 16-Apr-97 Randy Whittle wrote: > >At 12:13 PM 4/15/97 -0700, Don Perley wrote: > [snip] > >> > >>I guess that means we can kiss off any notion of alternate CPU's > >>like PPC, Cyrex, AMD. > > > > You didn't seriously think IBM was going to use anything but, did you? > > > > They're a premium brand--they'll use premium brand parts. The only > >exception to Intel chips in the ThinkPad line was IBM's own > >licensed-from-Intel chip > > Didn't the 8xx thinkpads have PPC processors and run Unix? Yes, and they still do. But to my knowledge, the TP860 is concidered as part of the RS/6000 series, and not the PC's. CU -- LArs Evensen, Overordnet TillitsValgt (OTV) ved FIM, NTNU E.B.Schieldrops Vei 11-16 E-mail : larsev@fm.unit.no 7033 Trondheim WWW : http://www.fm.unit.no/~larsev/ Norway Phone : + 47 - 73 88 89 01 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 16 11:49:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA057295798; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:49:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11519; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:49:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:47:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11310; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:47:13 -0400 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11294; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:47:04 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id IAA16768; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:23:13 -0700 Received: from hi-av1.cadence.com(158.140.128.31) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma861204193.016765; Wed Apr 16 08:23:13 1997 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (sj4a-09.cadence.com [158.140.31.19]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA27141; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704161522.IAA27141@mailhub.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Randy Whittle From: Don Perley Subject: Re: Future Think Pads Cc: derelict , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 07:45 AM 4/16/97 -0700, Randy Whittle wrote: >>Have they dropped the IBM 586 brand? They were badging those as part of the >>deal for fabbing the cyrex chips. > > 586 "brand"? > > If they've cut a deal to fab with another chip mfgr. (i.e. Cyrix), that >would be whole different ball game entirely, as then the chip would at >least *partly* be an "IBM". The deal was (in part) that they manufacture the chips for Cyrex, and get some quota that they can make extra and sell under their own brand name. They were also fabbing the Nextgen clones, but I don't know if they still are now that AMD (with their own fab line) has bought Nextgen. THe last I knew, IBM has never built Pentiums under Intel license. That deal stopped at the 486 level. Though I have had some close contact to these issues, all this info has been in public press releases. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 16 12:33:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA077398426; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:33:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16415; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:29:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:29:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16287; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:28:59 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16276; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:28:54 -0400 Received: from mypc.usc.edu (comserv-e-68.usc.edu [128.125.222.212]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id JAA19899 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970416092822.01482294@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:30:13 -0700 To: TP List From: Randy Whittle Subject: 16 MB RAM Module For Sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu SIZE: 16 MB RAM module MODELS: Works in IBM ThinkPad 760 E/EL/ED, 365 X/XD, and 560 (maybe more--not certain what else). Has been used in a TP 560 for about 7 months. MFGR: GoldenRam (ThinkPad-approved--will not void your warranty. I can include original packing slip dated 8/26/96) PRICE: Make Offer TERMS: I'll ship, would very much prefer you to pre-pay by money order (I've been on the list forever--I think some folks will vouch for my honesty). REASON FOR SALE: What else? I purchased a 32 MB Module. Thanks... ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 16 12:45:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA082969135; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:45:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18144; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:43:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:42:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18003; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:42:45 -0400 Received: from netcom8.netcom.com (root@netcom8.netcom.com [192.100.81.117]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17976; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:42:38 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA20571; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:34:22 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:34:22 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199704161634.JAA20571@netcom8.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Future Think Pads Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Among the features to be included in upcoming ThinkPads are 15 millimeter removable Zip drives, eventually to be included across the entire product line, Interesting that they chose the Zip over the LS-120 floppy or the like. Hopefully this drive will be interchangeable with a floppy or CD-rom. Yet another dilemma... and a removable dual CD-ROM/floppy drive module for the ThinkPad 360 line, Thought they had this already. Keyboards will also be redesigned, with the company opting to go with more traditional laptop keyboards over the ThinkPads' current raised keyboard. IBM, *please* don't mess up the Thinkpad keyboard. It can be improved and I hope it is, but it's still the best keyboard out there and is one of my main reasons for buying a Thinkpad. If you want to make Thinkpads more like other laptops, do it by including Soundblaster-compatible audio and a standard modem, replacing the Mwave board that has to be downloaded by proprietary software using secret interfaces before it can be used. >> IBM is expected to use Intel as the motherboard >> manufacturing house, rather than use its own facilities, >I guess that means we can kiss off any notion of alternate CPU's >like PPC, Cyrex, AMD. You didn't seriously think IBM was going to use anything but, did you? They're a premium brand--they'll use premium brand parts. The only exception to Intel chips in the ThinkPad line was IBM's own licensed-from-Intel chip. But basically, this is part of the value proposition IBM makes with their ThinkPads. But hey, I'm just a business guy. ;-) Some current thinkpads use these CPU's, maybe they'll stop. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 16 13:47:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA111162845; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:47:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23880; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:46:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:44:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23655; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:44:03 -0400 Received: from emout05.mail.aol.com (emout05.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.96]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23636; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:43:57 -0400 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id NAA03776 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970416134319_-667799782@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 HD Upgrade Successful Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Eddy, We have metal Hard Drive Caddies of our own design available for the TP701. They work great and are more durable than the originals. Hard Drive upgrades through 2.1gb and CPU upgrades to Pentium Class are available. Largest available HDD is currently the 3gb for systems that can take a Full Height drive. External HDD Shells are available for extended system storage capacities. Please contact me if you have any other questions or needs. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 3GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: TP701 HD Upgrade Successful Date: 97-04-16 06:02:27 EDT From: eddy@ucla.edu (Eddy Lin) To:thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (thinkpad@cs.utk.edu) A question from me: Does anyone know a source where I can get an original IBM HD caddy for the TP701 (new or used)? IBM doesn't sell the caddy along; at least not to the public. I've found companies that sell third-party made caddies but I would prefer an original part if it's available. I want to use my old 540MB drive sometimes. Thanks. Eddy Lin From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 16 15:03:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA150927383; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:03:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02173; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:01:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:59:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01777; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:59:11 -0400 Received: from rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov (rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.126.88]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01767; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:59:06 -0400 Received: (from porter@localhost) by rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov (LHEA9504/950407.s1) id OAA23946; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:59:04 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:59:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dr. F. Scott Porter NASA/GSFC" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: XFree86 on 560 DSTN In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all. I've finally installed redhat 4.1 on my thinkpad 560 and of course I'm having problems with XFree86. It works fine using the SVGA accelerator in 640x480 but I can't get it to work in 800x600 mode. I compiled the cy9382 program and run it (cy9382 -b) but it just puts two intense yellow stripes on my machine and the display locks up. Mine is the dual scan 560 and the setups I've seen are for the TFT. I didn't think there were any controller differences but I guess I'm wrong. Does anyone have a dual scan 560 working with XFree86 3.2? Can you send me your XF86Config file? Even in 640x480 mode, the screen is in "screen expansion" mode which makes it look awful. Any idea how to turn this off? I booted into win95 and turned it off there but somehow it turns back on when booting linux. Thanks for the help! -- Scott. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. F. Scott Porter Internet: porter@rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center Office: (301)286-5016 Code 662 FAX: (301)286-1684 Greenbelt, MD 20771 WWW: http://lheawww.gsfc.nasa.gov/~porter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 17 03:40:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA176482858; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:40:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06971; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:40:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:38:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06688; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:38:30 -0400 Received: from m5.boston.juno.com ([205.231.100.197]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06678; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:38:26 -0400 From: Received: (from sirgwynz@juno.com) by m5.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DxW05379; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:37:27 EDT To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Future Think Pads Message-Id: <19970417.033605.6598.0.sirgwynz@juno.com> References: <199704161634.JAA20571@netcom8.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-12,14,16-18,20,22-29,31,33-36 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:37:27 EDT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:34:22 -0700 phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) writes: > Keyboards will also be redesigned, with the company opting to > go with more traditional laptop keyboards over the ThinkPads' > current raised keyboard. > >IBM, *please* don't mess up the Thinkpad keyboard. It can be improved >and I hope it is, but it's still the best keyboard out there and >is one of my main reasons for buying a Thinkpad. I agree, the keyboard was the deciding factor for my Thinkpad. The keyboards on all the other brands were either too small, too fragile, or had an odd layout. Usually they were just plain too small because of those built in wristrests and glidepoints. But on my 365XD, the keyboard is spacious with good solid keystroke feedback. And I've heard the older Thinkpad models had it even better when Lexmark(?) or some major keyboard manufacturer used to design the keyboards for IBM. >If you want to make Thinkpads more like other laptops, do it by >including Soundblaster-compatible audio and a standard modem, >replacing the Mwave board that has to be downloaded by proprietary >software using secret interfaces before it can be used. I'm not too sure what the Mwave board is about, but the 365 models are SB Pro compatible. It would've been nice tho to have 2 built in speakers for the stereo, much like the Sharp laptops, but only if could be done without sacrificing the keyboard :) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 17 06:50:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA244524221; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 06:50:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27102; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 06:49:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 06:48:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27020; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 06:48:43 -0400 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27010; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 06:48:39 -0400 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:48:33 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Re: TP 560: two questions - Thanks! To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:48:33 +0200 (MES) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thank you to all who responded to my question! I still don't know what I am going to do (and I'll have another look at the HP Omnibook 800 but, as I said, I don't feel comfortable with the keyboard...). Had the 560 a three year warranty, the issue was clear... Best Regards, Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 17 08:16:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA276539405; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:16:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02062; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:16:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:14:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01861; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:14:56 -0400 Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01845; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:14:50 -0400 Received: from dach.demon.co.uk ([194.222.61.229]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa0502890; 17 Apr 97 12:14 BST Received: by localhost with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4B28.F4A413E0@localhost>; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:14:53 +0100 Message-Id: <01BC4B28.F4A413E0@localhost> From: Chris Alba To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: W95 Boot-up Problems Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:14:51 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Since I installed Win 95 on my 760CD, it takes 3 or 4 attempts to boot = properly. 1st few times it just stops at the memory check screen. Very = occasionally it goes straight into Windows. Also, I have to do a cold = reboot after putting it into resume/suspend if I'm network connected. = Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks, Chris=20 cja@usa.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 17 08:51:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA289571506; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:51:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05105; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:51:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:49:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04796; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:49:44 -0400 Received: from merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (cu18397@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.130]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04786; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:49:40 -0400 Received: from localhost (adw11@localhost) by merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA03080; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:49:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:49:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Arthur D Woo Sender: adw11@columbia.edu To: sirgwynz@juno.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Future Think Pads In-Reply-To: <19970417.033605.6598.0.sirgwynz@juno.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have to agree - the Thinkpad's keyboard was a huge deciding factor for me as well. The full key travel and tactile feedback is by far the best around, and the trackpoint is easier to use than a trackpad-type pointing device. On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 sirgwynz@juno.com wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:34:22 -0700 phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) writes: > > > > > Keyboards will also be redesigned, with the company opting to > > go with more traditional laptop keyboards over the ThinkPads' > > current raised keyboard. > > > >IBM, *please* don't mess up the Thinkpad keyboard. It can be improved > >and I hope it is, but it's still the best keyboard out there and > >is one of my main reasons for buying a Thinkpad. > > I agree, the keyboard was the deciding factor for my Thinkpad. The > keyboards on all the other > brands were either too small, too fragile, or had an odd layout. Usually > they were just plain > too small because of those built in wristrests and glidepoints. > > But on my 365XD, the keyboard is spacious with good solid keystroke > feedback. And I've > heard the older Thinkpad models had it even better when Lexmark(?) or > some major > keyboard manufacturer used to design the keyboards for IBM. > > >If you want to make Thinkpads more like other laptops, do it by > >including Soundblaster-compatible audio and a standard modem, > >replacing the Mwave board that has to be downloaded by proprietary > >software using secret interfaces before it can be used. > > I'm not too sure what the Mwave board is about, but the 365 models are SB > Pro compatible. > It would've been nice tho to have 2 built in speakers for the stereo, > much like the Sharp laptops, > but only if could be done without sacrificing the keyboard :) > > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 17 11:29:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA058980967; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:29:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20268; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:28:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:25:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19930; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:25:41 -0400 Received: from shell.istar.ca (shell.iSTAR.ca [204.191.213.253]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19898; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:25:35 -0400 Received: from inforamp.net (InfoRamp.net [204.191.136.8]) by shell.istar.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA28454 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ts17-13.tor.iSTAR.ca (ts42-10.tor.iSTAR.ca [204.191.149.25]) by inforamp.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA29279 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:25:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704171525.LAA29279@inforamp.net> X-Sender: valliant@inforamp.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:23:12 -0400 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: valliant@micomtech.com (Hugh Valliant) Subject: Backing up 760 & Iomega 3200 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello to the list... I have a couple of clients with several 755 and 760 ThinkPads on a Windows 95 network using an Iomega Ditto 3200 and their software. The machine that I'm using as the backup machine is a 755 using the parallel/printer port. I encounter no problems backing up the 755s. I have trouble backing up the 760's. It doesn't matter whether I try to back them up over the network or off the network. The job starts OK but then at some point in time...could be at 10%, 45%, or 95% completion the backup software starts giving a error message about not being able to process files. After numerous error messages of this type, my clients 760 machine locks up and they have to reboot. I have tried scandisk, defrag, the latest version of the software, etc. Of course, I've phoned Iomega's tech support a couple of times but without success at resolving the problem. They are now saying there must be some incompatibility. IBM tech support, also, has not been able to help. So I now turn to the list. I hope there is someone who has been through this before. What is everyone else using in a network environment? Appreciate all responses. I'm willing to try other products at this point. As long as I can backup my client's machines. Thanks in advance Hugh ============================ MI-COM Technology Computer Solutions for Small Business Helping you access and travel the Information Highway Hugh A. Valliant Bus. (416) 726-5355 Fax. (416) 699-3847 Internet valliant@micomtech.com http://www.micomtech.com/~valliant/ ============================= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 17 13:26:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA107837958; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:25:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01887; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:24:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:22:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01624; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:21:56 -0400 Received: from lance.castle.net (root@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01608; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:21:50 -0400 Received: from lance (mbernste@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by lance.castle.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA17038 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:23:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:23:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael P. Bernstein" X-Sender: mbernste@lance To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Direct X and 760ED Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was wondering if the 760ED supports DirectX and all of those other "direct" stuff from Microsoft (direct 3D, direct draw, etc.) If so, anything I need to know before installing it? Thanks for any info, /\/\ike Bernstein (http://www.castle.net/~mbernste/welcome.html) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 17 13:27:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA108288029; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:27:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02128; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:26:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:23:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01751; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:23:41 -0400 Received: from lance.castle.net (root@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01740; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:23:37 -0400 Received: from lance (mbernste@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by lance.castle.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA17162; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:25:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:25:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael P. Bernstein" X-Sender: mbernste@lance To: Chris Alba Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: W95 Boot-up Problems In-Reply-To: <01BC4B28.F4A413E0@localhost> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It could be that your hibernation file is corrupt. Boot to DOS (don't shell out) and rename your .hib file and reboot. It will create a new one (might take a minute or two to create). On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Chris Alba wrote: > Since I installed Win 95 on my 760CD, it takes 3 or 4 attempts to boot properly. > 1st few times it just stops at the memory check screen. Very occasionally it goes straight into Windows. Also, I have to do a cold reboot after putting it into resume/suspend if I'm network connected. Any ideas would be welcome. > Thanks, > Chris > cja@usa.net > /\/\ike Bernstein (http://www.castle.net/~mbernste/welcome.html) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 17 15:33:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA164985579; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:32:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15516; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:27:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:25:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15240; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:25:44 -0400 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15208; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:25:37 -0400 Received: from da-soocha-15.execpc.com (da-soocha-15.execpc.com [169.207.66.145]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA17140 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:25:32 -0500 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Good source for hard drives for 760ED? Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:26:45 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <335e78ad.13977330@mailgate.execpc.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu We have a 760ED with a 1GB hard drive. I'm looking for good 3rd-party sources for something like a 2GB hard drive. Thanks for any help. Tom Kustner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 17 15:52:26 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA172746744; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:52:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17939; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:49:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:46:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17680; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:46:22 -0400 Received: from brickell.bridge.net (root@brickell.bridge.net [204.253.4.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17657; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:46:17 -0400 Received: from ppp-mia5-190.bridge.net (ppp-mia5-190.bridge.net [207.16.5.190]) by brickell.bridge.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA18072 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:46:12 -0400 Received: by ppp-mia5-190.bridge.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4B3F.A587E220@ppp-mia5-190.bridge.net>; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:57:19 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC4B3F.A587E220@ppp-mia5-190.bridge.net> From: "Geovanny M. Ortiz" To: "'Thinkpad Mail list'" Subject: FW: TP701 HD Upgrade Successful Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:56:20 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu -----Original Message----- From: Geovanny M. Ortiz [SMTP:o-n-a@bridge.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 2:10 PM To: 'PEPSales@aol.com' Subject: RE: TP701 HD Upgrade Successful Michael, You have mentioned several times in this list that you have pentium = class upgrades for the Thinkpad 701 and someone asked for significant = bench test results of a 701 with your upgrade, you, however, have not = posted any test results. I think you would have better results selling, = at least to me, you upgrade if you posted some comparison for us to = decide if it is worth the money. I appreciate your company's effort to = keep the 701 alive. Hope to "hear" from you. -----Original Message----- From: PEPSales@aol.com [SMTP:PEPSales@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 1:43 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 HD Upgrade Successful Eddy, We have metal Hard Drive Caddies of our own design available for the = TP701. They work great and are more durable than the originals. Hard Drive = upgrades through 2.1gb and CPU upgrades to Pentium Class are available. Largest available HDD is currently the 3gb for systems that can take a Full = Height drive. External HDD Shells are available for extended system storage capacities. Please contact me if you have any other questions or needs. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 3GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DOriginal Message=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Subj: TP701 HD Upgrade Successful Date: 97-04-16 06:02:27 EDT From: eddy@ucla.edu (Eddy Lin) To:thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (thinkpad@cs.utk.edu) A question from me: Does anyone know a source where I can get an = original IBM HD caddy for the TP701 (new or used)? IBM doesn't sell the caddy = along; at least not to the public. I've found companies that sell third-party = made caddies but I would prefer an original part if it's available. I want to = use my old 540MB drive sometimes. Thanks. Eddy Lin From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 17 16:22:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA186398555; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:22:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20798; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:20:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:19:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20608; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:19:37 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20594; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:19:30 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA22823; Thu, 17 Apr 97 10:19:27 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA18969; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:20:24 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199704172020.KAA18969@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Processor upgrades (was: TP701 HD Upgrade Successful To: o-n-a@bridge.net (Geovanny M. Ortiz) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 97 10:20:22 HST Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <01BC4B3F.A587E220@ppp-mia5-190.bridge.net>; from "Geovanny M. Ortiz" at Apr 17, 97 2:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Geovanny M. Ortiz wrote: > Michael, > You have mentioned several times in this list that you have pentium = > class upgrades for the Thinkpad 701 and someone asked for significant = > bench test results of a 701 with your upgrade, you, however, have not = > posted any test results. Some time back I upgraded my desktop machine from a Dx2-66 to an AMD586-133. I did extensive benchmarking both before and after, and would be willing to post my results if anyone is interested. (While my desktop and the 701 are somewhet different, they have enough systemic similarities - similar video and HD speed, same memory, same lack of L2 cache - that some* conclusions could be drawn.) Anyway, let me know if I should usurp valuable bandwidth with a posting. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 17 18:34:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA247826474; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:34:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03384; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:33:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:31:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03221; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:31:39 -0400 Received: from relay.interserv.com (relay.interserv.com [165.121.1.67]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03205; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:31:34 -0400 Received: from default (hd58-227.hil.compuserve.com) by relay.interserv.com with SMTP id AA16352 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:31:20 -0700 Message-Id: <3356A4E6.48A7@sprynet.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:32:06 -0400 From: "P. van Schijndel" Reply-To: pvanschi@sprynet.com Organization: Bowes Publishers Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad Distribution List Subject: Win95 & Thinkpads References: <199704150444.VAA11837@mail-gw.pacbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a 365XD. When I run a MS-DOS application, it runs in a partial screen mode (see below), even if I set the property to full screen. The image is there, just shrunk to a window size, with a black border all around it in full screen mode. Anybody know why? Anybody have a solution. Here is an excerpt from a post I sent to microsoft.public.win95.msdosapps, and a response. Do you agree with the response? ----forward---- This sounds like a problem (feature?) of the Thinkpad computer. Due to the nature of the LCD displays in notebooks, some DOS programs that require unusual resolutions cannot utilize the full LCD screen. Adam P. van Schijndel wrote in article <3353F066.3849@sprynet.com>... > I have a IBM Thinkpad 365XD running Win95. > > When I run DOS apps in full screen mode (that is, not windowed), the > image does not fill the entire screen. It fills the centre half (like a > doughnut, where the image is the "doughnut" hole. > > Even after setting the properties of the application -- not a shortcut > -- to full screen, this effect still occurs. > > Has anyone else had this problem? > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 17 21:28:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA018396880; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:28:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA15215; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:27:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:25:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14977; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:25:56 -0400 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem084.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.84]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14958; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:25:51 -0400 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id SAA00332 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:24:51 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:18:54 -0700 (PDT) From: derelict To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755 keyboard problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just recently noticed that my ENTER key has become very sensitive. If I just TAP the right side of the ENTER key ever so lightly, I get a newline. I popped off the key and was poking around and noticed that nolonger was the little "cylinder" responsible for activating the key. I can press anywhere around that area very lightly and get it to work. This is strange, I popped off all the keys in that vicinity and none of the others behave this way. I didn't bump or drop it so I don't knwo why it's happening. Is there a way to fix this? Do I need to send it in for repairs? Thanks, -Mike -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 17 22:04:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA033889061; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:04:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17974; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:03:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:02:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17879; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:02:09 -0400 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (mail1.halcyon.com [206.63.63.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17865; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:02:04 -0400 From: Received: from evt-mx100-ip4.halcyon.com by mail1.halcyon.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/10Nov96-0444PM) id AA19762; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:02:26 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970417190058.0069f078@mail.halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@mail.halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:00:58 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 560 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just got my new PC Connection catalogue in the mail. They have a sale on TP 560: Pentium 100, DSTN, 810mg HD, *24 mg RAM* for $1999. Pretty good price. Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 18 00:07:08 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA085056428; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 00:07:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27918; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 00:06:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Apr 1997 00:05:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27719; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 00:05:04 -0400 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27691; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 00:04:59 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx20-10.teleport.com [206.163.125.107]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA04105 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704180404.VAA04105@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: IR Port Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is there software for manipulation of the IR port? I recall some time ago someone asking whether the port could be used as a TV remote but I don't recall ever seeing a response that came to the group. Presumably the TP can send and receive IR. Bryan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 18 10:40:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA041294402; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:40:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23048; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:38:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:33:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22393; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:33:01 -0400 Received: from user2.mnsinc.com (user2.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.24]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22379; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:32:54 -0400 Received: from localhost (wheeless@localhost) by user2.mnsinc.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA07155; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:32:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:32:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Karen Wheeless To: "Geovanny M. Ortiz" Cc: "'Thinkpad Mail list'" Subject: Re: FW: TP701 HD Upgrade Successful In-Reply-To: <01BC4B3F.A587E220@ppp-mia5-190.bridge.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Geovanny and List: I thought it might interest you that if you go to the Pep Sales web pages you'll see that the upgrade that is available for the 701C DX2-50 is the AMD586-100. I don't know exactly how these compare but my general impression is that it would be about a 30-50% boost - not true Pentium power but a step in that direction. Those of you with more technical expertise than I could probably run the benchmarks. I asked a couple of days ago (via e-mail off the Web site) for a price quote on the CPU-only upgrade (since I've already done the memory myself; and am satisfied with my hard drive). I haven't gotten a reply yet but those of you interested may want to visit the Pep Sales web site since they have a very complete table indicating what upgrades they have for what models of Thinkpads. Karen Wheeless wheeless@mnsinc.com On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Geovanny M. Ortiz wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Geovanny M. Ortiz [SMTP:o-n-a@bridge.net] > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 2:10 PM > To: 'PEPSales@aol.com' > Subject: RE: TP701 HD Upgrade Successful > > Michael, > You have mentioned several times in this list that you have pentium class upgrades for the Thinkpad 701 and someone asked for significant bench test results of a 701 with your upgrade, you, however, have not posted any test results. I think you would have better results selling, at least to me, you upgrade if you posted some comparison for us to decide if it is worth the money. I appreciate your company's effort to keep the 701 alive. Hope to "hear" from you. > > -----Original Message----- > From: PEPSales@aol.com [SMTP:PEPSales@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 1:43 PM > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: TP701 HD Upgrade Successful > > Eddy, > > We have metal Hard Drive Caddies of our own design available for the TP701. > They work great and are more durable than the originals. Hard Drive upgrades > through 2.1gb and CPU upgrades to Pentium Class are available. Largest > available HDD is currently the 3gb for systems that can take a Full Height > drive. External HDD Shells are available for extended system storage > capacities. Please contact me if you have any other questions or needs. > > Best Regards, > > Michael > email: pepsale2@portables.com > Portable Enhancements > The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM > Up to 3GB in your Notebook! > WEB: http://www.portables.com > > > ========Original Message======== > > Subj: TP701 HD Upgrade Successful > Date: 97-04-16 06:02:27 EDT > From: eddy@ucla.edu (Eddy Lin) > To:thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (thinkpad@cs.utk.edu) > > > A question from me: Does anyone know a source where I can get an original > IBM HD caddy for the TP701 (new or used)? IBM doesn't sell the caddy along; > at least not to the public. I've found companies that sell third-party made > caddies but I would prefer an original part if it's available. I want to use > my old 540MB drive sometimes. Thanks. > > Eddy Lin > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 18 16:13:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA197624434; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 16:13:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27370; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 16:10:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Apr 1997 16:05:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26732; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 16:05:22 -0400 Received: from brickell.bridge.net (root@brickell.bridge.net [204.253.4.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26700; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 16:05:16 -0400 Received: from ppp-mia2-78.bridge.net (ppp-mia2-78.bridge.net [207.16.5.78]) by brickell.bridge.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24464 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 16:05:11 -0400 Received: by ppp-mia2-78.bridge.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4C12.1B736180@ppp-mia2-78.bridge.net>; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 16:03:51 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC4C12.1B736180@ppp-mia2-78.bridge.net> From: "Geovanny M. Ortiz" To: "'Thinkpad Mail list'" Subject: Thinkpad Newsgroup Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:39:07 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all, Does anyone know if there is a Thinkpad Newsgroup? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 18 19:28:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA287886115; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:28:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09575; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:28:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:26:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09220; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:26:33 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09206; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:26:28 -0400 Received: from mypc.usc.edu (comserv-i-64.usc.edu [128.125.224.136]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id PAA14068; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970418081555.006cbf3c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:27:49 -0700 To: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Good source for hard drives for 760ED? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 07:26 PM 4/17/97 GMT, Tom Kustner wrote: >We have a 760ED with a 1GB hard drive. I'm looking for good 3rd-party >sources for something like a 2GB hard drive. Tom, Eddy Lin (on the list) just purchased from a guy near us in Pasadena (and I'm about to--I'd be going over there today, except that he doesn't have the drive I want in stock). Eddy seems happy with the purchase and I'm confident enough that I'm going to purchase, perhaps you will too. I found the prices to be excellent and the drives Eddy bought and I'm going to buy are IBM TravelStars--among the best available. Here's the info Joseph Gadoury jgad@pacbell.net Centrix Int'l (818) 791-9112 ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 18 19:29:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA288306173; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:29:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09588; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:28:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:26:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09194; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:26:22 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09171; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:26:16 -0400 Received: from mypc.usc.edu (comserv-i-64.usc.edu [128.125.224.136]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id PAA14052; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970418080641.006cbf3c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:27:47 -0700 To: From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Future Think Pads (Keyboards) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 03:37 AM 4/17/97 EDT, sirgwynz@juno.com wrote: >> Keyboards will also be redesigned, with the company opting to >> go with more traditional laptop keyboards over the ThinkPads' >> current raised keyboard. >> >>IBM, *please* don't mess up the Thinkpad keyboard. It can be improved >>and I hope it is, but it's still the best keyboard out there and >>is one of my main reasons for buying a Thinkpad. > >I agree, the keyboard was the deciding factor for my Thinkpad. The >keyboards on all the other >brands were either too small, too fragile, or had an odd layout. Usually >heard the older Thinkpad models had it even better when Lexmark(?) or >some major >keyboard manufacturer used to design the keyboards for IBM. As the former owner of a 750C, I can tell you--that keyboard had the best tactile "feel" of any notebook I've ever used or owned. Unfortunately, it was also the noisiest--people were always saying that others around them complained of the noise when they used their TP in classes or libraries. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 18 23:25:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA087130338; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 23:25:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25882; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:39:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:37:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25433; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:37:16 -0400 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25418; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:37:11 -0400 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA15527; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970418223640_-499895896@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: o-n-a@bridge.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: TP701 HD Upgrade Successful Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Geovanny and All, I have not been ignoring you about the benchmarks for the TP701. I need to put them in a format I can e-mail. Right now they are only in faxable form. I should have them ready soon and them I will post them on the list. Thank you for your patience. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 3GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: RE: TP701 HD Upgrade Successful Date: 97-04-16 15:46:17 EDT From: o-n-a@bridge.net (Geovanny M. Ortiz) To: PEPSales@aol.com ('PEPSales@aol.com') Michael, You have mentioned several times in this list that you have pentium class upgrades for the Thinkpad 701 and someone asked for significant bench test results of a 701 with your upgrade, you, however, have not posted any test results. I think you would have better results selling, at least to me, you upgrade if you posted some comparison for us to decide if it is worth the money. I appreciate your company's effort to keep the 701 alive. Hope to "hear" from you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 18 23:37:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA092431065; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 23:37:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25906; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:39:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:37:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25407; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:37:04 -0400 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com (emout04.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.95]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25397; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:37:01 -0400 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA08896 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970418223627_707571368@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Good source for hard drives for 760ED? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tom, I saw your post on the List. We have a 2.1gb Hard Drive upgrade kit for your TP760ED. It comes in the additional HDD Caddy and is ready to install. It also comes with all the additional Shofware and Drivers you will need along with Install Instructions. I am including our upgrade catalog for your system. Please contact me if you have any other questions or needs. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 3GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com ========Original Message======== Subj: Good source for hard drives for 760ED? Date: 97-04-17 22:33:40 EDT From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu We have a 760ED with a 1GB hard drive. I'm looking for good 3rd-party sources for something like a 2GB hard drive. Thanks for any help. Tom Kustner ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 19 06:28:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA254795687; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 06:28:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA03363; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 06:27:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Apr 1997 06:24:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA03088; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 06:24:47 -0400 Received: from hauki.clinet.fi (root@hauki.clinet.fi [194.100.0.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA03078; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 06:24:42 -0400 Received: from CHIPIE (kenavo.fi [194.100.26.62]) by hauki.clinet.fi (8.8.5/8.6.4) with SMTP id NAA22115 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:24:37 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199704191024.NAA22115@hauki.clinet.fi> From: Dominique Pivard Date: Sat, 19 Apr 97 13:25:09 +0300 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <01BC4C12.1B736180@ppp-mia2-78.bridge.net> Subject: Re: Thinkpad Newsgroup X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.27c Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 18 Apr 1997 at 03:39 PM you, "Geovanny M. Ortiz" , said: > Does anyone know if there is a Thinkpad Newsgroup? Not that I know of. But Thinkpads are quite often discussed on comp.sys.laptops HTH, Dominique -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Dominique Pivard Helsinki, Finland ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 19 08:12:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA292511928; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:12:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08597; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:11:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:10:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08460; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:10:31 -0400 Received: from lance.castle.net (root@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08428; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:10:23 -0400 Received: from bernstei (BRIDGE35.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.67]) by lance.castle.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA01384; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 07:12:34 -0500 Message-Id: <3358B5F9.EBC8FD24@castle.net> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:09:29 -0400 From: Michael Bernstein X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Cleary , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Direct X and 760ED X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199704181409.HAA17887@m1.sprynet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yeah, I meant DirectX. That's the problem when you write e-mail at 5:30 in the morning. :) Anyway, I installed it without any problems (even sound worked). Only odd thing is that every time I restart Win 95 (or cold boot) it goes into "TV Out" mode resolution (640X480X256) and I have to do an Fn F7 to fix it. Any ideas??? Jon Cleary wrote: > > ---------- > > From: Michael Bernstein > > To: 'Jon Cleary' > > Subject: RE: Direct X and 760ED > > Date: Friday, April 18, 1997 12:17 > > > > And this MMX driver that you recommend will work with a Cyber 9385-82/PCI > display? > > Michael Bernstein > > HiServ Customer Support Center > > Yes it's fine on my 760ED-U3A I'm typing on... > > REMEMBER it's DirectX and not MMX ;o) And the driver you need is for a TGUI > 9660 w/ DirectDraw/DirectX > > Jon From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 19 08:17:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA294372219; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:16:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09109; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:16:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:15:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08783; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:15:09 -0400 Received: from mahoneynt.mahoney-chevy.com (mahoneynt.mahoney-chevy.com [204.95.252.164]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08758; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:15:04 -0400 Received: by mahoneynt.mahoney-chevy.com with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BC4C91.3FB24D70@mahoneynt.mahoney-chevy.com>; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 07:13:58 -0500 Message-Id: From: To: Subject: No Mail Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 07:13:56 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I haven't received a thing since the 8th. So we'll call this a test. Thanks Michael Mahoney Indianapolis, IN. mahoneym@iquest.net http://www.mahoney-chevy.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 19 12:01:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA079895715; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 12:01:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22700; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 12:00:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Apr 1997 11:59:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22492; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 11:59:43 -0400 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22480; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 11:59:38 -0400 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-120-7.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.120.7]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id IAA19066 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704191558.IAA19066@mail-gw.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Thinkpad Distribution List" Subject: WTB: Used Thinkpad 760 CD-ROM Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 08:56:46 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If anyone has a 4x or 6x laying around after their upgrade to the new 8x, I can help them clean out their garage (so to speak). Please email me and tell me how much you want. Alternatively, if someone knows where I can buy one cheap, I'ld appreciate it. Thanks \\|||// (o) (o) =========.oOO==( )==OOo.=========== || || || Thomas D. Franklin || || mailto:tomfrank@pacbell.net || || || || .oooO Oooo. || ==========( )===( )============ \ ( ) / \_) (_/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 19 13:42:15 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA120291730; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:42:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28676; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:41:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:40:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28467; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:40:13 -0400 Received: from mailsrv2.pcy.mci.net (mailsrv2.pcy.mci.net [204.71.1.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28437; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:40:04 -0400 Received: from usr9-dialup21.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net (usr9-dialup21.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-8 #10045) id <01IHW34NLI008Y54WD@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:21:04 EDT Received: from usr9-dialup21.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net (usr9-dialup21.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-8 #10044) with SMTP id <01IHW33XD9Y48WWFHH@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:17:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:18:01 -0400 From: Neil Ripston Subject: Wanted HD for 760 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <3358FE49.2A40@internetmci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Looking for a replacement drive for my 760. I would like a 1.2G or better. Must be original IBM and include whatever is needed to replace the drive on the right side of the 760 (caddy or whatever). Email if you have upgraded and wish to part with the old drive. Thanks, Neil.Ripston@internetmci.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 19 13:45:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA121621919; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:45:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29097; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:44:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:43:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28969; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:43:54 -0400 Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (mail-gw2.pacbell.net [206.13.28.53]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28958; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:43:49 -0400 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-120-80.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.120.80]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA29224; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704191743.KAA29224@mail-gw2.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Thinkpad Distribution List" , "Dean Cashen" Subject: FYI: 8x CD-ROM Available Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:35:07 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Some people have asked so here is a link to the IBM web page which lists the part number for the new 8x CD-ROM. http://www1.ibmlink.ibm.com/HTML/SPEC/g2216022.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 19 14:34:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA141934876; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:34:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28807; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:42:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:41:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28630; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:41:25 -0400 Received: from kim.teleport.com (kim.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28619; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:41:19 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME (ip-pdx02-11.teleport.com [206.163.123.44]) by kim.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA09967 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704191741.KAA09967@kim.teleport.com> X-Sender: allied@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bryan Daum Subject: Re: Thinkpad Newsgroup Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What do we call this? At 01:25 PM 4/19/97 +0300, you wrote: >On Fri, 18 Apr 1997 at 03:39 PM you, "Geovanny M. Ortiz" >, said: > >> Does anyone know if there is a Thinkpad Newsgroup? > >Not that I know of. But Thinkpads are quite often discussed on >comp.sys.laptops > >HTH, > >Dominique >-- >----------------------------------------------------------- >Dominique Pivard >Helsinki, Finland >----------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 19 14:52:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA148765920; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:52:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03715; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:51:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:49:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03310; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:49:28 -0400 Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03298; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:49:22 -0400 Received: from tom-s-laptop (ppp-206-170-120-4.sndg02.pacbell.net [206.170.120.4]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA13747; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 11:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704191848.LAA13747@mail-gw.pacbell.net> From: "Tom Franklin" To: "Thinkpad Distribution List" , "Dean Cashen" Subject: Re: 8x CD-ROM Available Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 11:46:26 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I did a search on prices for the 6x and 8x CD-ROMs for the Thinkpad 760. Some prices are for institutions so I listed those in parenthesis. 6x: 85G1957, 82H8850 $354: http://www.trucost.com/ibm.html $387: http://corporatepc.com/lookup2.cgi/231:1 ($357: http://www.cas.utk.edu/depts/pam/q2inp.html) ($353: http://tac.nosc.mil/to/notebook/mcbride/ccspecials.html) 8X: 45H8786 $373: http://www.trucost.com/ibm.html ($357: http://www.doa.state.nc.us/PandC/250ibm3.htm) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 19 16:41:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA195462516; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:41:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11589; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:41:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:38:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11294; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:38:38 -0400 Received: from cosmos.psc.sc.edu (cosmos.psc.sc.edu [129.252.32.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11281; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:38:35 -0400 Received: from echo.cosm.sc.edu (echo.cosm.sc.edu [129.252.40.14]) by cosmos.psc.sc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA16363 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:38:33 GMT Received: from localhost by echo.cosm.sc.edu (8.6.12) id UAA00762; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:28:30 GMT Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:28:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Waldemar Puszkarz To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Future Think Pads (Keyboards) In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970418080641.006cbf3c@scf.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Randy Whittle wrote: > >brands were either too small, too fragile, or had an odd layout. Usually > > >heard the older Thinkpad models had it even better when Lexmark(?) or > >some major > >keyboard manufacturer used to design the keyboards for IBM. > > As the former owner of a 750C, I can tell you--that keyboard had the best > tactile "feel" of any notebook I've ever used or owned. > > Unfortunately, it was also the noisiest--people were always saying that > others around them complained of the noise when they used their TP in > classes or libraries. > Could not agree more. The keyboard of my old TP 700 (really old and still going) is better than that of my new TP 701CS. Better "feel", excellent response, better than some of the "grown-up" keyboards out there. I can't say the same about the trackpoint mouse though, the stick thing system is much better on my 701, so I use a regular mouse for my 700, or at least I used to. Waldemar > > ------- > Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 19 16:44:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA196242653; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:44:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11910; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:43:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:42:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11794; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:42:32 -0400 Received: from cosmos.psc.sc.edu (cosmos.psc.sc.edu [129.252.32.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11782; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:42:29 -0400 Received: from echo.cosm.sc.edu (echo.cosm.sc.edu [129.252.40.14]) by cosmos.psc.sc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA16383; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:42:19 GMT Received: from localhost by echo.cosm.sc.edu (8.6.12) id UAA00767; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:32:12 GMT Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:32:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Waldemar Puszkarz To: Tom Franklin Cc: Thinkpad Distribution List , Dean Cashen Subject: Re: 8x CD-ROM Available In-Reply-To: <199704191848.LAA13747@mail-gw.pacbell.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, considering this... Is there any way to get a similar thing for a TP 701? Or perhaps this is not supported by these machines? Thanks for your attention. Waldemar ----------------- Waldemar Puszkarz Waldemar's List: www.netservers.com/~waldemar/list.shtml From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 19 17:59:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA227387167; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:59:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17211; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:58:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:56:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17019; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:56:03 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16999; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:55:58 -0400 Received: from mypc.usc.edu (comserv-j-38.usc.edu [128.125.224.182]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id OAA05553; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970419144359.013bea88@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:44:08 -0700 To: Waldemar Puszkarz From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: 8x CD-ROM Available Cc: Tom Franklin , Thinkpad Distribution List , Dean Cashen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 04:32 PM 4/19/97 -0400, Waldemar Puszkarz wrote: >considering this... Is there any way to get a similar thing for a TP 701? >Or perhaps this is not supported by these machines? >Thanks for your attention. >Waldemar I think he's talking about the insertable CD-ROM that can go into the very modular 760's. Since that is likely the case, its simply not a possibility on the 701's. However, there are plenty of external CD-ROM solutions that would likely work fine. Portable numbers, small & lightweight (or not so small), either connected through a PCMCIA card or via your parallel port. I recently got a really cheapo "Backpack" 4x CD-ROM drive that hooks up to the parallel port. Paid a whopping $180 for a re-packed-in-the-box model (I think it was normally about $230 or $250). I would perhaps have preferred one of those ultralight numbers, but it would have cost twice as much. And this parallel number has the added advantage of being able to be ported to other machines easily (my spouse's work machine or my own work machine, neither of which have CD-ROM's, but where I might like to install my own software from CD-ROM). ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 19 19:36:20 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA266932979; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:36:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24103; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:35:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:34:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23936; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:34:35 -0400 Received: from lance.castle.net (root@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23926; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:34:32 -0400 Received: from BRIDGE84.CASTLE.NET (BRIDGE84.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.79]) by lance.castle.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA07243; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 18:36:42 -0500 Received: by BRIDGE84.CASTLE.NET with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4CF8.9A7CC5C0@BRIDGE84.CASTLE.NET>; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:33:48 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC4CF8.9A7CC5C0@BRIDGE84.CASTLE.NET> From: Michael Bernstein To: "'Bryan Daum'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Thinkpad Newsgroup Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:22:27 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a mailing list, not a newsgroup. Newsgroups are found on Usenet or (for those old timers) Fidonet. Michael Bernstein -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Daum [SMTP:allied@teleport.com] Sent: Saturday, April 19, 1997 1:41 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad Newsgroup What do we call this? At 01:25 PM 4/19/97 +0300, you wrote: >On Fri, 18 Apr 1997 at 03:39 PM you, "Geovanny M. Ortiz" >, said: > >> Does anyone know if there is a Thinkpad Newsgroup? > >Not that I know of. But Thinkpads are quite often discussed on >comp.sys.laptops > >HTH, > >Dominique >-- >----------------------------------------------------------- >Dominique Pivard >Helsinki, Finland >----------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 19 23:14:46 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA054336085; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:14:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07889; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:14:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:12:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07742; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:12:09 -0400 Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07732; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:12:05 -0400 Received: from mak.com (mak.mak.com [207.86.232.1]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA12525; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:01:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from miracle by mak.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17385; Sat, 19 Apr 97 23:07:08 EDT Received: from localhost (kim@localhost) by miracle (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id XAA16900; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:07:06 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:07:06 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim X-Sender: kim@miracle Reply-To: John Kim To: Waldemar Puszkarz Cc: Thinkpad Distribution List Subject: Re: 8x CD-ROM Available In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 19 Apr 1997, Waldemar Puszkarz wrote: > considering this... Is there any way to get a similar thing for a TP 701? > Or perhaps this is not supported by these machines? > Thanks for your attention. At speeds above 4x, I'd avoid parallel port versions. I don't recall what the (practical )bandwidth of a EPP/ECP is, but I'm pretty sure it's around 4x speed. Beyond that, a faster drive won't help or will even perform worse. Unless you're only going to use Win95/NT or OS/2, AVOID the Panasonic 8x KXL-D750 unit. It seems to be a non-standard SCSI2 device. After trying to get it to work with Linux for several days, I asked for help and learned that David Hinds (author of the PCMCIA stuff for Linux) said the model was unlikely to ever work with Linux. The KXL-D740 4x drive and SCSI card works fine under Linux. The DXL-D745 is supposed to work too, but the included PCMCIA SCSI card has no Linux drivers. -- John H. Kim kim@mak.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 20 00:31:50 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA085370709; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 00:31:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13996; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 00:29:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Apr 1997 00:27:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13808; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 00:27:40 -0400 Received: from asstdc.scgt.oz.au (root@asstdc.scgt.oz.au [202.14.234.65]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13787; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 00:27:04 -0400 Received: (from imb@localhost) by asstdc.scgt.oz.au (8.8.5/BSD4.4) id OAA16912 Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:25:51 +1000 (EST) From: michael butler Message-Id: <199704200425.OAA16912@asstdc.scgt.oz.au> Subject: Re: XFree86 on 560 DSTN In-Reply-To: from "Dr. F. Scott Porter NASA/GSFC" at "Apr 16, 97 02:59:04 pm" To: porter@rosserv.gsfc.nasa.gov (Dr. F. Scott Porter NASA/GSFC) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:25:51 +1000 (EST) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dr. F. Scott Porter NASA/GSFC writes: > Hi all. I've finally installed redhat 4.1 on my thinkpad 560 and of > course I'm having problems with XFree86. It works fine using the SVGA > accelerator in 640x480 but I can't get it to work in 800x600 mode. I too have a 560 DSTN but I'm running FreeBSD on it. However, we have similar problems :-( The latest xfree beta (3.2a) is better but I haven't yet found a suitable set of modelines for 800x600. You can apparently now force the expansion feature off in this version but I've had little time to play with it to the point of being happy to use it on a regular basis. Regards, michael From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 20 01:59:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA119755945; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 01:59:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18087; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 01:57:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Apr 1997 01:55:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17782; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 01:55:42 -0400 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (mail1.halcyon.com [206.63.63.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA17760; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 01:55:37 -0400 From: Received: from evt-mx100-ip135.halcyon.com by mail1.halcyon.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/10Nov96-0444PM) id AA17551; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 22:55:57 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970419225409.006a6f80@mail.halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@mail.halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 22:54:09 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP560 & Pansonic CD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've just spent the last couple of hours trying to get a Pansonic (SCSI) 4X CD player to work with a TP 560 P100, Win 95. This player installed easily with my old TP365 P100 Win95 and I'm not sure what the problem is now. The SCSI card is recognized and the CD player is recognized as a D:\ drive. The drive is not damaged because it plays audio cds when disconnected from the TP. When it is connected to the TP however it spins nonstop and the computer locks up when I tried to open My Computer or Explorer and the computer tries to read the drive's directory. I can only stop the drive by opening it and have to hard reboot the computer. Auto notification of cds is disabled. The DIP switches are still set to the factory settings which worked with the 365. I rem'd out the drivers the software put in AE and CS but that made no difference. I'm out of ideas. Anyone else have any? TIA, Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 20 02:40:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA136328415; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 02:40:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20543; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 02:38:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Apr 1997 02:37:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20447; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 02:37:45 -0400 Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (peckham@netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA20427; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 02:37:40 -0400 Received: (from peckham@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id XAA26961; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:37:36 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:37:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Peckham Engineering Subject: Re: TP560 & Pansonic CD To: karensw@halcyon.com Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970419225409.006a6f80@mail.halcyon.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, may be that your system is set to use 32 bit drivers. Had a problem with my cdrom(same as yours) not working. Look under Settings/Control Panel/System/Hardware Profile. Click on the pcmcia device and see if 32 bit is enabled. This caused my drive to act as you describe. Mine now says the device is disabled, but it works fine. Hope this is not too incomprehensible a description... -Frank Peckham __________________ peckham@netcom.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 20 14:05:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA095839539; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:05:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08539; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:04:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:01:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08334; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:01:47 -0400 Received: from iceland.it.earthlink.net (iceland-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08316; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:01:42 -0400 Received: from max3-ot-ca-30.earthlink.net (max3-ot-ca-30.earthlink.net [206.149.196.180]) by iceland.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA29538; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704201801.LAA29538@iceland.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "slppj@cc.usu.edu" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 20 Apr 97 11:02:31 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 Main Power Input Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 13 Apr 1997 11:25:13 -0600, Greg Alvandian wrote: >Paul Khoury wrote: >> >> Has anyone had any problems with the power supply cable coming loose or even falling out of the main jack >> (not the Multiport II)? Also, has anyone had any cracks in the hinges of their 701s, even from light use? I >> think that it might be a poor case design, but it might also just be my machine. I had my dad, an engineer, tell >> me that the machine is nice, but the case design is insufficient. >> >> Paul Khoury >> pkhoury@earthlink.net >Paul, >I had the loose power connection too, several system boards ago(see >previous posts about battery swap problem). Repeated use probably >causes the fit become loose over time. It is probably the spring >contact in there, you could probably adjust that yourself with the power >off or you can call IBM and arrange to send it to Easyserv if you're >concerned about doing some damage. But don't get me going on Easyserv. >Greg A. > I went to EasyServ with another machine before. It took a month and the problem still didn't get fixed, and I was charged to get it back early, but that's another story. Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 20 14:15:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA099360126; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:15:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09351; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:14:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:13:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09229; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:13:34 -0400 Received: from iceland.it.earthlink.net (iceland-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09216; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:13:31 -0400 Received: from max3-ot-ca-30.earthlink.net (max3-ot-ca-30.earthlink.net [206.149.196.180]) by iceland.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA02619 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704201813.LAA02619@iceland.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 20 Apr 97 11:14:21 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Battery swap and hibernation Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am considering putting Debian Linux on my 701, alongside OS/2 Warp. Any special considerations I should have? Also, what about battery swap? Does it work at all in Linux? Can I use hibernation at all? Thanks. Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 20 14:26:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA104020765; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:26:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10701; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:25:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:24:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10561; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:24:18 -0400 Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10551; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:24:15 -0400 Received: from max3-ot-ca-30.earthlink.net (max3-ot-ca-30.earthlink.net [206.149.196.180]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA14676; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704201823.LAA14676@sweden.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "Lars Evensen" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 20 Apr 97 11:25:02 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Future Think Pads Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:22:28 +0200 (MET DST), Lars Evensen wrote: >On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, derelict wrote: > >> >> On 16-Apr-97 Randy Whittle wrote: >> >At 12:13 PM 4/15/97 -0700, Don Perley wrote: >> [snip] >> >> >> >>I guess that means we can kiss off any notion of alternate CPU's >> >>like PPC, Cyrex, AMD. >> > >> > You didn't seriously think IBM was going to use anything but, did you? >> > >> > They're a premium brand--they'll use premium brand parts. The only >> >exception to Intel chips in the ThinkPad line was IBM's own >> >licensed-from-Intel chip >> >> Didn't the 8xx thinkpads have PPC processors and run Unix? > >Yes, and they still do. But to my knowledge, the TP860 is concidered as >part of the RS/6000 series, and not the PC's. > >CU >-- >LArs Evensen, Overordnet TillitsValgt (OTV) ved FIM, NTNU >E.B.Schieldrops Vei 11-16 E-mail : larsev@fm.unit.no >7033 Trondheim WWW : http://www.fm.unit.no/~larsev/ >Norway Phone : + 47 - 73 88 89 01 > > The 830, 50, and 60 are part of the ThinkPad PowerSeries, in the RS/6000 group. They came with I think either 32MB or 64MB of RAM, 75MHz 603e processor, SCSI-II hard drive and CD-ROM, and either Windows NT or AIX. Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 20 14:31:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA106371065; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:31:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11248; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:30:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:29:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10974; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:29:06 -0400 Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net (denmark-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10964; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:29:02 -0400 Received: from max3-ot-ca-30.earthlink.net (max3-ot-ca-30.earthlink.net [206.149.196.180]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA08497; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704201828.LAA08497@denmark.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "sirgwynz@juno.com" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 20 Apr 97 11:29:53 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Future Think Pads Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:37:27 EDT, sirgwynz@juno.com wrote: > >On Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:34:22 -0700 phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) writes: > > > >> Keyboards will also be redesigned, with the company opting to >> go with more traditional laptop keyboards over the ThinkPads' >> current raised keyboard. >> >>IBM, *please* don't mess up the Thinkpad keyboard. It can be improved >>and I hope it is, but it's still the best keyboard out there and >>is one of my main reasons for buying a Thinkpad. > >I agree, the keyboard was the deciding factor for my Thinkpad. The >keyboards on all the other >brands were either too small, too fragile, or had an odd layout. Usually >they were just plain >too small because of those built in wristrests and glidepoints. I liked the ThinkPad's keyboard because it was standard, and didn't have the escape key where F12 is, or PGUP where the left shift is, like other notebooks. > >But on my 365XD, the keyboard is spacious with good solid keystroke >feedback. And I've >heard the older Thinkpad models had it even better when Lexmark(?) or >some major >keyboard manufacturer used to design the keyboards for IBM. On my older 355c, that keyboard was made by Lexmark, and it had a solid feel. I think that my 701's is made by KeyTronic. > >>If you want to make Thinkpads more like other laptops, do it by >>including Soundblaster-compatible audio and a standard modem, >>replacing the Mwave board that has to be downloaded by proprietary >>software using secret interfaces before it can be used. > >I'm not too sure what the Mwave board is about, but the 365 models are SB >Pro compatible. >It would've been nice tho to have 2 built in speakers for the stereo, >much like the Sharp laptops, >but only if could be done without sacrificing the keyboard :) > The MWAVE was supposed to be an upgradeable wavetable soundcard/modem, but it's too propreitary, or at least that's what I hear. > > Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 20 14:39:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA109271548; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:39:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12136; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:38:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:37:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12019; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:37:47 -0400 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12005; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:37:43 -0400 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 20:37:40 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Re: Battery swap and hibernation To: pkhoury@earthlink.net Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 20:37:40 +0200 (MES) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I am considering putting Debian Linux on my 701, alongside OS/2 Warp. > Can I use hibernation at all? Thanks. Hibernation should work, at least it does on the 755CX. I can't remember if it works with HPFS (it didn't in the beginning but I think IBM made it work), if it doesn't you will need a FAT partition for the hibernation file. I had Slackware running on my 701, I didn't notice any problems. Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 20 18:28:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA200325309; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 18:28:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03996; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 18:27:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Apr 1997 18:24:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03416; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 18:24:41 -0400 Received: from iceland.it.earthlink.net (iceland-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03395; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 18:24:37 -0400 Received: from max2-ot-ca-32.earthlink.net (max2-ot-ca-32.earthlink.net [206.149.196.132]) by iceland.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA10829; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 15:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704202224.PAA10829@iceland.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "laniear@ibm.net" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 20 Apr 97 12:11:41 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: irc/2 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 15 Apr 97 12:13:04 -0800, laniear@ibm.net wrote: >Actually I've been an OS/2 user since version 1.0 SE. I'm also an IBM = business partner, >however you are right, I meant to say Internet Adventurer. Sorry, I do= n't know what came >over me. (BTW, I also went to Camp Cambridge.) > >Lee > > >> Internet Explorer has chat built-in. >> >> > Are anyother chat programs besides irc/2 available for os2warp >> > ver. 3.? I have another computer with win95 which is using >> > perch, but I do not know if that is available for os2. >> >> There's probably an alternate universe somewhere in which Microsoft >> has ported IE to OS/2. But in this universe, I think it has the same= >> probability as "hell freezing over". Or maybe it's something like >> "over Bill's dead body". I wouldn't want IE on my machine, let alone that it formatted the hard d= rive on someone else's. >> >> I guess you're not an OS/2 user. >> >> I'm not trying to be unpleasant, or to demean you. But for those of >> us who use OS/2, the Microsoft war against OS/2 is, unfortunately, a >> central fact of our computing lives. Fortunantly, there is software that helps us deal with it, such as Bill = Gates dart games, and being able to shoot rounds of bullets into the Micro$oft logo. >> >> What scares me is the idea that Bill will decide that Linux is worthy= >> of some similar "attention". I'm not sure what he could do about it >> (Give away all MS software in a spirit of sharing? That'll teach >> those scruffy bastards!), but I don't really want to find out, either= . >> That would be interesting though, the Shareware version of Window$ 95, w= ith 50% more bugs than ever! > > > >||----------------------------------------------------------|| >|| Lee Laniear || >|| laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || >|| || >||----------------------------------------------------------|| > > The one thing I find interesting is how Windows 95 costs about the same = price as OS/2 Warp 4, and Warp 4 has so many more features. I wonder when Gate$ will actually include fr= ee, usable "lite" editions of software programs in his next release of Window$. After all, it probably only co= sts them 10=BD, the disks or CDs 50=BD, and distribution maybe 25=BD, considering mass quantities, so I'm sure Gate= $ could sacrifice a few dimes. Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 20 18:28:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA200485330; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 18:28:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03990; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 18:27:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Apr 1997 18:24:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03393; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 18:24:36 -0400 Received: from iceland.it.earthlink.net (iceland-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.28]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03364; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 18:24:31 -0400 Received: from max2-ot-ca-32.earthlink.net (max2-ot-ca-32.earthlink.net [206.149.196.132]) by iceland.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA10817 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 15:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704202224.PAA10817@iceland.it.earthlink.net> From: "Paul Khoury" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sun, 20 Apr 97 11:56:45 Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Server Software on ThinkPads Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I know this is going to sound silly, but has anyone upgraded their ThinkPad and used it as a server for a small network, using OS/2 Warp Server, NT Server, Linux, or whatever? Any problems? How was installation? Any significant number of crashes? Thanks. Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 20 19:24:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA224078677; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 19:24:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07386; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 19:23:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Apr 1997 19:22:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07307; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 19:22:38 -0400 Received: from mail-c.bcc.ac.uk (mail-c.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07296; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 19:22:35 -0400 Received: from dialup-5.ucl.ac.uk by mail-c.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 21 Apr 1997 00:22:28 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970421002220.372fd1f8@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 00:22:20 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: 760EL Disk Drives In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Could someone tell me what drives fit in 760EL? I'm thinking about buying one for use with IBM VoiceType Dictation 3.0. I have two older IBM 17 mm drives (DPRA-21250 & DCRA-22160) and a thinner drive (Toshiba MK-1301-MAV). Will all three fit -- or will only the thinner drive fit? How sturdy is keyboard on this unit? The raised keyboard looks not so sturdy vs the one on my old 750Cs. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 20 23:47:34 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA033864453; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 23:47:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26622; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 23:46:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Apr 1997 23:43:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26226; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 23:43:42 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26216; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 23:43:37 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA23258; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 21:46:29 -0600 Message-Id: <335AE239.D788666E@wwsi.com> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 21:42:49 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Khoury Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: Server Software on ThinkPads X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199704202224.PAA10817@iceland.it.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have run my 760E as both a NT Server (including Notes Domino) and a Linux server with no problems at all. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 21 01:47:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA082261632; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 01:47:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03860; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 01:45:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Apr 1997 01:43:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03704; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 01:43:23 -0400 Received: from AST01.ligsystems.com (slip166-72-214-109.ca.us.ibm.net [166.72.214.109]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03693; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 01:43:16 -0400 Received: by AST01.ligsystems.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id WAA002.64; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 22:42:48 -0400 Message-Id: <199704210242.WAA002.64@AST01.ligsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 20 Apr 97 22:40:42 -0800 From: laniear@ibm.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: laniear@ibm.net Subject: Re: Server Software on ThinkPads X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <263_180_4_861590442> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Not now, but I ran Warp Server on my 701 without crashes or problems. Lee //--- forwarded letter ------------------------------------------------------- > X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 97 11:56:45 -0800 > From: "Paul Khoury" > To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" > Reply-To: "Paul Khoury" > Subject: Re: Server Software on ThinkPads > > I know this is going to sound silly, but has anyone upgraded their ThinkPad and used it as a server for a small > network, using OS/2 Warp Server, NT Server, Linux, or whatever? Any problems? How was installation? > Any significant number of crashes? > > Thanks. > > Paul Khoury > pkhoury@earthlink.net > > ||----------------------------------------------------------|| || Lee Laniear || || laniear@ibm.net OR laniear@netcom.com || || || ||----------------------------------------------------------|| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 21 05:17:18 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA165284237; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 05:17:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA20523; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 05:15:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Apr 1997 05:12:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA20072; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 05:12:43 -0400 Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA20060; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 05:12:38 -0400 Received: from cliff.cris.com (cliff.cris.com [199.3.12.45]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.5/(97/04/01 3.26)) id FAA25903; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 05:12:35 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from 760-ed (cnc137031.concentric.net [206.173.215.31]) by cliff.cris.com (8.8.5) id FAA08910; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 05:12:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704210912.FAA08910@cliff.cris.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 05:12:22 +0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Network Connections... Help!!! Reply-To: phong@concentric.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I hope someone can give me some pointers here because I'm about to pull out my hair! I have a Thinkpad 760 ED and I love it. Just one minor point, I can't connect to any networks! I also have a 755CX that connects just fine to both my client's Novell server and my Windows 95 peer-to-peer at home. Everything connects just fine when I boot up this Thinkpad to whichever network. However, with my 760ED, I can't see my client's server. No hint whatsoever that it even exists. I've painfully checked to make sure that it is configured exactly the same as my 755CX and still no luck. I even swapped network PC Cards and the 755CX still finds the server so that isn't the problem. When I'm at home, it gets even weirder. When I boot up the 760, I can connect to any device via my Ethernet hub. However, when I try to access the 760 from either my 755CX or my desktop, it can't find the damn thing! But this is the strange part, when I shut down the PC Card (via Control Panel), eject it and then reinsert it, I can then see the 760 from my other computers! Argghhhh!!! I called IBM and they passed the buck and blamed Novell and 3Com. Needless to say, I think it might have to do with Windows 95 but I completely uninstalled all network support and then reloaded everything! Still no luck. I really hate to have to uninstall everything and then reinstall Windows 95 if I can circumvent this stupid problem quickly. Any and all suggestions are welcome! Thanks in advance! ... patrick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@concentric.net (613) 769-1544 Tel phong@connectinc.com (613) 728-4063 Fax From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 21 05:19:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA166454356; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 05:19:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA21334; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 05:18:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Apr 1997 05:16:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA20644; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 05:16:03 -0400 Received: from mail.physics.ox.ac.uk (mail.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.244.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA20586; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 05:15:50 -0400 Received: from pc138.physics.ox.ac.uk (pc138.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.240.208]) by mail.physics.ox.ac.uk id KAA20235; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 10:15:44 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199704210915.KAA20235@mail.physics.ox.ac.uk> From: "Geoff Hogan" To: "Christoph Eyrich" Cc: "ThinkPad List" Date: Mon, 21 Apr 97 10:15:46 Reply-To: "Geoff Hogan" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Battery swap and hibernation Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 20 Apr 1997 20:37:40 +0200 (MES), Christoph Eyrich wrote: >> I am considering putting Debian Linux on my 701, alongside OS/2 Warp. > >> Can I use hibernation at all? Thanks. > >Hibernation should work, at least it does on the 755CX. I can't remember >if it works with HPFS (it didn't in the beginning but I think IBM >made it work), if it doesn't you will need a FAT partition for >the hibernation file. I have only OS/2 Warp Connect on an HPFS partition and Linux (Slackware - still under construction) on my 755CX and hibernation works fine, at least under OS/2 - once I changed to an Ethernet card that had compatible drivers (3Com). Geoff --------------------------------------------------------------- Dr G P Hogan Laser Group, Clarendon Lab., Tel: +44 1865 272205 Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3PU Fax: +44 1865 272400 UK Email: g.hogan@physics.ox.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 21 06:34:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA194678887; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 06:34:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01703; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 06:34:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Apr 1997 06:32:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01606; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 06:32:13 -0400 Received: from mail.microserve.net (mail.microserve.net [207.44.0.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA01596; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 06:32:10 -0400 Received: from default (eye.microserve.com [198.70.182.26]) by mail.microserve.net (8.8.5/naISPa) with ESMTP id GAA26945 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 06:31:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704211031.GAA26945@mail.microserve.net> From: "Joseph Pugliese" To: "thinkpad submissions" Subject: thinkpad numbers Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 06:32:14 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm new to Thinkpad. Can anyone tell me how to find out what all these model numbers mean. I have no idea what features they have by their numbers. Is there somewhere that I can find this out . Joseph Pugliese email:jpuglies@eye.microserve.com jpuglies@pol.net http:www.microserve.net/~jpuglies From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 21 09:08:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA253158091; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:08:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12480; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:07:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:00:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11238; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:00:38 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11194; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:00:28 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA25075; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 07:03:53 -0600 Message-Id: <335B64DA.8DCD6716@wwsi.com> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 07:00:10 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: phong@concentric.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Network Connections... Help!!! X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199704210912.FAA08910@cliff.cris.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Patrick, This *isn't* a problem with the Thinkpad. Now, are you running TCP/IP or NetBIOS or IPX or all three or what? If you're running TCP/IP, can you ping things on the network? Are you suspending or booting your system from scratch? What happens if you boot without the PC Card, hot-plug the PC Card, wait for the drivers to load, and do it then? Lots of questions. My 760 and a number of others that I've worked with run just fine with 3Com network cards and sharing. FWIW... -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 21 09:43:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA266880196; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:43:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16103; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:42:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:39:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15521; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:39:11 -0400 Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15511; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:39:07 -0400 Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.184.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.5/(97/04/01 3.26)) id JAA24264; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:39:05 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from 760-ed (cnc137038.concentric.net [206.173.215.38]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.8.5) id JAA27386; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704211338.JAA27386@mcfeely.concentric.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: Steve Hultquist Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:31:31 +0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Network Connections... Help!!! Reply-To: phong@concentric.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <335B64DA.8DCD6716@wwsi.com> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I don't think this is a problem with the Thinkpad either... or at least I hope not. Okay, when I'm at my client's office, I connect to their Novell server (IPX) and sometimes dial up my ISP (TCP/IP). I don't have a problem with this configuration on my 755CX as I can still retrieve my email and stay connected to the server for printing, etc. However, when I boot up the 760ED with the network adapter plugged in, it doesn't even see the network to begin with. I can later of course, dial up my ISP and continue on my merry way. I just think that something in my configuration is screwed up but I have no idea as to where to even begin looking. It must be just an oversight of mind but I can't figure out what. ... patrick > Patrick, > > This *isn't* a problem with the Thinkpad. > > Now, are you running TCP/IP or NetBIOS or IPX or all three or what? If > you're running TCP/IP, can you ping things on the network? Are you > suspending or booting your system from scratch? > > What happens if you boot without the PC Card, hot-plug the PC Card, wait > for the drivers to load, and do it then? > > Lots of questions. My 760 and a number of others that I've worked with > run just fine with 3Com network cards and sharing. FWIW... > -- > Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. > Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado > mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@concentric.net (613) 769-1544 Tel phong@connectinc.com (613) 728-4063 Fax From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 21 11:30:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA012076643; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:30:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27909; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:29:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:27:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27614; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:27:47 -0400 Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27600; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:27:41 -0400 Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA11211 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:27:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juno.cns.vt.edu (juno.cns.vt.edu [128.173.12.34]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA16837 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:27:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704211527.LAA16837@sable.cc.vt.edu> From: "Dan Cook" To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" Date: Mon, 21 Apr 97 11:27:29 -0500 Reply-To: "Dan Cook" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Virginia Tech's Registered PMMail 1.9 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: win95 on TP 701c Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am in the process of setting up an IBM ThinkPad 701 with win95. Looking for any advice from people who have done this. Thus far I have formated the drive and performed teh installation, but now themachine hangs on the startup screen. I have seen on the factory setup machines a PCMCIA Director. Where can I find this? Any help grewtly appreciated. Thanx, Dan Cook Va Tech / Communications Network Services 1700 Pratt Drive Blacksburg, VA 24061-0506 (540) 231-5270 wdciii@vt.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 21 12:16:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA032399373; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:16:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02978; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:14:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:13:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02828; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:13:01 -0400 Received: from lotus.lotus.com (lotus.com [192.233.136.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02798; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:12:53 -0400 From: Received: from internet2.lotus.com by lotus.lotus.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA28572; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:09:03 -0400 Received: from mta2.lotus.com by internet2.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27872; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:05:33 -0400 Received: by mta2.lotus.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (364.3 4-9-1997)) id 85256480.005920B6 ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:13:30 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LOTUS@MTA To: pkhoury@earthlink.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <85256480.0058B10B.00@mta2.lotus.com> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:12:09 -0400 Subject: Re: Server Software on ThinkPads Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've used a 760EL as both a Warp Server, NT Server and Solaris server in a test environment with no noticable problems. Installation was relatively smooth in all cases. Only NT crashed but "only" once. -Bill P.S. Note that this was in a controlled test environment not a production enviornment. pkhoury@earthlink.net on 04/20/97 07:56:45 AM Please respond to pkhoury@earthlink.net To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu cc: (bcc: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Subject: Re: Server Software on ThinkPads I know this is going to sound silly, but has anyone upgraded their ThinkPad and used it as a server for a small network, using OS/2 Warp Server, NT Server, Linux, or whatever? Any problems? How was installation? Any significant number of crashes? Thanks. Paul Khoury pkhoury@earthlink.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 21 18:36:44 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA192632203; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:36:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13759; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:35:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:29:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12824; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:29:24 -0400 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (mail1.halcyon.com [206.63.63.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12794; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:29:15 -0400 From: Received: from evt-mx100-ip159.halcyon.com by mail1.halcyon.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/10Nov96-0444PM) id AA19219; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 15:29:34 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970421152808.006a13f4@mail.halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@mail.halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 15:28:08 -0700 To: phong@concentric.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Network Connections... Help!!! In-Reply-To: <199704210912.FAA08910@cliff.cris.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 05:12 AM 4/21/97 +0500, Patrick Hong wrote: deleted >However, with my 760ED, I can't see my client's server. No hint whatsoever >that it even exists. I've painfully checked to make sure that it is configured >exactly the same as my 755CX and still no luck. I even swapped network PC >Cards and the 755CX still finds the server so that isn't the problem. > >When I'm at home, it gets even weirder. When I boot up the 760, I can connect >to any device via my Ethernet hub. However, when I try to access the 760 from >either my 755CX or my desktop, it can't find the damn thing! But this is the >strange part, when I shut down the PC Card (via Control Panel), eject it and >then reinsert it, I can then see the 760 from my other computers! Argghhhh!!! > Patrick, Isn't it frustrating?? Coincidentally I've been going through the same problem just this weekend only with a 365 and 560. I wrote earlier about a pansonic drive that wouldn't work on the 560. I brought home the 365 to compare the machines and tested my home network. The 2 computer are configured identically (I swear!) and the 365 connects to the network effortlessly but I thrashed and thrashed with the 560. The best I could do was get the network to see the 560 but the 560 never saw the network. I used the same Xircom card with both machines. This problem and the problem with the pansonic drive makes me suspect that it is indeed a Thinkpad problem. Somehow the OS or the BIOS or something is keeping the 560 from doing what the 365 does so easily. Looking forward to any advice you get that may help me, Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 21 18:57:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA202833471; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:57:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15166; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:56:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:53:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14868; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:53:42 -0400 Received: from passnotes.share.org ([192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14858; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:53:37 -0400 From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256480.007DAC18 ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:52:40 -0500 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: SHARE INC To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, phong@concentric.net Message-Id: <86256480.007DBDA1.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:57:27 -0500 Subject: Re: Network Connections... Help!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Have you tried booting a DOS diskette with just the minimal DOS Card and Socket services, and loading the drivers and Stack(s) manually? Just to make sure it's not a hardware problem. Running on AC? Try the other pcmcia slot? (I had a shorted one once). Rich Chong From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 22 06:50:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA196796236; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 06:50:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23759; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 06:50:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Apr 1997 06:47:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23627; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 06:47:52 -0400 Received: from lance.castle.net (root@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23617; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 06:47:45 -0400 Received: from bernstei (BRIDGE11.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.43]) by lance.castle.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA15986 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 05:49:58 -0500 Message-Id: <335C9727.A9E832EF@castle.net> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 06:47:03 -0400 From: Michael Bernstein X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Cable Internet & Thinkpads X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with using cable Internet (more specifically the @Home service) and their Thinkpad. I have a 760ED and am getting cable Internet access installed today and I am considering hooking the 760 up to my cable modem, which I think, will be a Motorola. A standard (PCMCIA)10mbit Ethernet card will connect my PC to the modem. TIA for any insight. Mike From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 22 11:34:53 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA011163291; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 11:34:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16805; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 11:32:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Apr 1997 11:30:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16471; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 11:30:02 -0400 Received: from callisto.si.usherb.ca (callisto.si.USherb.ca [132.210.10.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16460; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 11:29:57 -0400 Received: by callisto.si.usherb.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA70196; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 11:26:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 11:26:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Fabian Rodriguez <94251116@callisto.si.usherb.ca> Reply-To: Fabian.Rodriguez@callisto.si.usherb.ca To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Hello, new in this list Message-Id: Organization: InterActions! http://callisto.si.usherb.ca/~94251116 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I am new to this list, having acquired a 365XD for less than I thought :) It is the P120,1GB CD model, the only difference I went for 40MB Ram. I will be installing NT4.0 WS, has anybody tried that yet? I will also try to get a HOme and Away card on it (I know, I know, you deserve to get trouble with that card but hey, it was cheap and I love playing with hardware..) Greetings fromSherbrooke, QC,Canada Fabian Rodriguez From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 22 12:05:24 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA024435123; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:05:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19911; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:04:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:03:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19696; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:03:11 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19680; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:03:05 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp ([199.179.139.10]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA30877; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 10:06:24 -0600 Message-Id: <335CE118.EB6251D5@wwsi.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 10:02:32 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: phong@concentric.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Network Connections... Help!!! X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199704211338.JAA27386@mcfeely.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What does the network configuration under Control Panel look like? Is the PC Card recognized? It is the same physical PC Card that works in your other system? -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 22 12:08:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA025785339; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:08:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20352; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:07:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:06:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20152; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:06:26 -0400 Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20138; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:06:16 -0400 Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.184.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.5/(97/04/01 3.26)) id MAA08918; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:06:11 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from 760-ed (cnc137031.concentric.net [206.173.215.31]) by newman.concentric.net (8.8.5) id MAA18719; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704221606.MAA18719@newman.concentric.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:05:51 +0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Network Connections... Help!!! Reply-To: phong@concentric.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970421152808.006a13f4@mail.halcyon.com> References: <199704210912.FAA08910@cliff.cris.com> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, the problem is finally solved. I found out that while Plug 'n Play works more often then not, this is definitely one case that some "manual" tweaking was necessary. Under the Control Panel -> System -> Device Manager -> Network Adapters, I checked on my 3Com card and found that it was working properly and did not conflict with any other devices. But I switched the Interrupt setting from 15 to 9 and switched the address as well. While this modification worked for me, you may not necessarily have to change both settings, maybe just one. Cheers, ... patrick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@concentric.net (613) 769-1544 Tel phong@connectinc.com (613) 728-4063 Fax From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 22 12:38:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA039387134; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:38:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23532; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:37:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:35:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23374; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:35:42 -0400 Received: from edelweb.fr (edelweb.fr [193.51.12.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23356; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:35:31 -0400 Received: from ben.edelweb.fr (ben.edelweb.fr [193.51.12.62]) by edelweb.fr with ESMTP id SAA01142; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 18:35:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from ben@localhost) by ben.edelweb.fr (8.8.5/8.6.6) id SAA09808; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 18:36:18 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 18:36:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ben To: Fabian.Rodriguez@callisto.si.usherb.ca Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hello, new in this list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I will be installing NT4.0 WS, has anybody tried that yet? I will also Ok, since we're talking about NT4.0 and Thinkpads, does anyone know if NT4.0 will willingly coexist with other OS's on the box? I.e. perhaps FreeBSD or Solaris x86? > Greetings fromSherbrooke, QC,Canada Indeed. And a great big shout out from Paris, France. Ben. ____ Ben Samman.................................................ben@edelweb.fr Paris, France Illudium Q36 Explosive Space Modulator From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 22 14:04:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA124652286; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 14:04:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00963; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 14:02:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Apr 1997 13:59:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00583; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 13:59:38 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00572; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 13:59:28 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp ([199.179.139.10]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA31420; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:02:42 -0600 Message-Id: <335CFC52.EDB19B05@wwsi.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 11:58:42 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Cc: Fabian.Rodriguez@callisto.si.usherb.ca, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hello, new in this list X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was running NT 4.0 (server, but workstation will work the same) with Red Hat Linux on the same disk. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 22 14:44:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA171424677; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 14:44:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25551; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:59:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:57:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25378; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:57:22 -0400 Received: from callisto.si.usherb.ca (callisto.si.USherb.ca [132.210.10.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25346; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:57:10 -0400 Received: by callisto.si.usherb.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA59036; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:53:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:53:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Fabian Rodriguez <94251116@callisto.si.usherb.ca> Reply-To: Fabian.Rodriguez@callisto.si.usherb.ca Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Coexist WinNT40 and others... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: InterActions! http://callisto.si.usherb.ca/~94251116 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Hanno Wagner wrote: > Well... I have NT4.0, OS/2 Warp Merlin and Linux-2.0.29 on my > hard drive, without problems. > The only thing is, i can't hibernate my thinkpad in Linux - > anyone has a hint why? There is a WWW page about installing Linux on thinkpads.. Take a look at: http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/tp-linux.html I would say that Linux does not have all the APM (advanced power management) features that the other OSs do. Fabian Rodriguez From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 22 14:52:04 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA179515123; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 14:52:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24378; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:46:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:44:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24158; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:44:25 -0400 Received: from deneb.dfn.de (deneb.dfn.de [192.76.176.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24136; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:44:16 -0400 Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (rzgw.rz.fh-hannover.de) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) id AA12347; Tue, 22 Apr 97 18:45:05 +0200 Received: from bidnix.ik.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA26179; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 18:41:02 +0200 Received: from localhost by bidnix.ik.fh-hannover.de with smtp id m0wJifo-000rHIC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Tue, 22 Apr 1997 18:43:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 18:43:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Hanno Wagner To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Coexist WinNT40 and others... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi! On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Ben wrote: > Ok, since we're talking about NT4.0 and Thinkpads, does anyone know if > NT4.0 will willingly coexist with other OS's on the box? I.e. perhaps > FreeBSD or Solaris x86? Well... I have NT4.0, OS/2 Warp Merlin and Linux-2.0.29 on my hard drive, without problems. The only thing is, i can't hibernate my thinkpad in Linux - anyone has a hint why? Ciao, Hanno - -- | Hanno Wagner | Member of the HTML Writers Guild | Rince@IRC | | Eine gewerbliche Nutzung meiner Email-Adressen ist nicht gestattet! | | pgp-fingerprint: 7D C1 01 72 75 22 01 4F 6F 08 06 49 1B 02 4A A6 | | 74 a3 53 cc 0b 19 - we did it! | "With this body in my possesion I shall now rule the world!!" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBM1x6V4kABLrCbuiRAQH8PAP/RBkukNVaEYPPkOk3UJt3tZjhb9xqqHb8 Fma/kWgtK9QIzJ3BxJt2Say+TU8VXwc/FRRIli03UtnkCL0sRbNzfNQkhxFaTmim EvbzdeXgv7SC0aNxq7V39ALmA3qzVj+vL0noWFgUjzEF4o3kt5MDkppr0jHV4FDX 7sH29T9Qz2U= =LxG0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 22 19:42:05 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA175972525; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 19:42:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03795; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 19:39:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Apr 1997 19:25:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02792; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 19:25:32 -0400 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02770; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 19:25:27 -0400 Received: from cais.cais.com (rj@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/cais-andrew-jdf) with SMTP id TAA03367; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 19:25:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 19:25:14 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: Ben Cc: Fabian.Rodriguez@callisto.si.usherb.ca, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hello, new in this list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On a TP701 I have PCDOS/WIN3.11 and NT4.0 but not on the same primary partition, i.e., they are on separate bootable partitions. The two OS's share data by way of an extended partition that has been formated for FAT16. BTW, the extended partition has resident programs that work ok on both systems with a couple of exceptions (FAXWORKS comes to mind :{ at the moment). On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Ben wrote: > > I will be installing NT4.0 WS, has anybody tried that yet? I will also > > Ok, since we're talking about NT4.0 and Thinkpads, does anyone know if > NT4.0 will willingly coexist with other OS's on the box? I.e. perhaps > FreeBSD or Solaris x86? > > > Greetings fromSherbrooke, QC,Canada > > Indeed. And a great big shout out from Paris, France. > > Ben. > ____ > Ben Samman.................................................ben@edelweb.fr > Paris, France Illudium Q36 Explosive Space Modulator > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 22 22:25:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA258622336; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:25:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16869; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:24:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:13:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15566; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:13:41 -0400 Received: from brickbat8.mindspring.com (brickbat8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15515; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:13:34 -0400 Received: from user-37kb95d.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95d.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.173]) by brickbat8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA27942; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704230213.WAA27942@brickbat8.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "pvanschi@sprynet.com" , "Thinkpad Distribution List" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 97 22:04:43 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Win95 & Thinkpads Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If your display is a 800x600 then all dos s/w will use only 640x480 of the pixels. Unlike a CRT display that use a scanning gun, a LCD has 800 pixles across & 600 pixels down. Dos can only sctivate 640x480 of them. There should be a option for screen expansion in the TP features under display that may provide you with expantion You might want to think of it as a feature of Microsoft, they are the one who wrote DOS. On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:32:06 -0400, P. van Schijndel wrote: >I have a 365XD. When I run a MS-DOS application, it runs in a partial >screen mode (see below), even if I set the property to full screen. The >image is there, just shrunk to a window size, with a black border all >around it in full screen mode. > >Anybody know why? Anybody have a solution. > >Here is an excerpt from a post I sent to >microsoft.public.win95.msdosapps, and a response. Do you agree with the >response? > >----forward---- > >This sounds like a problem (feature?) of the Thinkpad computer. Due to >the >nature of the LCD displays in notebooks, some DOS programs that require >unusual resolutions cannot utilize the full LCD screen. > >Adam > >P. van Schijndel wrote in article ><3353F066.3849@sprynet.com>... >> I have a IBM Thinkpad 365XD running Win95. >> >> When I run DOS apps in full screen mode (that is, not windowed), the >> image does not fill the entire screen. It fills the centre half (like a >> doughnut, where the image is the "doughnut" hole. >> >> Even after setting the properties of the application -- not a shortcut >> -- to full screen, this effect still occurs. >> >> Has anyone else had this problem? >> jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 22 22:25:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA258772355; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:25:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16873; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:24:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:14:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15641; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:14:17 -0400 Received: from brickbat8.mindspring.com (brickbat8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15630; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:14:12 -0400 Received: from user-37kb95d.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95d.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.173]) by brickbat8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA27847; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704230213.WAA27847@brickbat8.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "karensw@halcyon.com" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 97 21:48:06 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP560 & Pansonic CD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu there are drivers ib the pansonic site that are designed for use tieh the PCI series of TP's. I know that they work for the 760e's series. On Sat, 19 Apr 1997 22:54:09 -0700, karensw@halcyon.com wrote: >I've just spent the last couple of hours trying to get a Pansonic (SCSI) 4X >CD player to work with a TP 560 P100, Win 95. This player installed easily >with my old TP365 P100 Win95 and I'm not sure what the problem is now. > >The SCSI card is recognized and the CD player is recognized as a D:\ drive. >The drive is not damaged because it plays audio cds when disconnected from >the TP. When it is connected to the TP however it spins nonstop and the >computer locks up when I tried to open My Computer or Explorer and the >computer tries to read the drive's directory. I can only stop the drive by >opening it and have to hard reboot the computer. Auto notification of cds >is disabled. > >The DIP switches are still set to the factory settings which worked with >the 365. I rem'd out the drivers the software put in AE and CS but that >made no difference. > >I'm out of ideas. Anyone else have any? > >TIA, >Karen jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 22 22:25:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA258782356; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:25:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16877; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:24:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:13:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15441; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:13:19 -0400 Received: from brickbat8.mindspring.com (brickbat8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15430; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:13:15 -0400 Received: from user-37kb95d.dialup.mindspring.com (user-37kb95d.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.173]) by brickbat8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA27887; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704230213.WAA27887@brickbat8.mindspring.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" To: "derelict" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 97 21:54:08 Reply-To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 755 keyboard problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If it is warranty, call IBM & they will replaced it. On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:18:54 -0700 (PDT), derelict wrote: >I just recently noticed that my ENTER key has become very sensitive. If I >just TAP the right side of the ENTER key ever so lightly, I get a newline. > >I popped off the key and was poking around and noticed that nolonger was the >little "cylinder" responsible for activating the key. I can press anywhere >around that area very lightly and get it to work. This is strange, I popped >off all the keys in that vicinity and none of the others behave this way. I >didn't bump or drop it so I don't knwo why it's happening. > >Is there a way to fix this? Do I need to send it in for repairs? > >Thanks, >-Mike >-- >mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu >mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu >http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ jeffsnc@mindspring.com I'm not paranoid, I know they are following me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unsolicited advertising sent to this E-Mail address is expressly prohibited under USC Title 47, Section 227. Violators are subject to charge of up to $1,500 per incident or treble actual costs, whichever is greater. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 22 23:31:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA284416259; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:30:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22768; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:29:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:18:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21688; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:18:53 -0400 Received: from callisto.si.usherb.ca (callisto.si.USherb.ca [132.210.10.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21678; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:18:49 -0400 Received: by callisto.si.usherb.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA65808; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:15:30 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:15:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Fabian Rodriguez <94251116@callisto.si.usherb.ca> Reply-To: Fabian.Rodriguez@callisto.si.usherb.ca Cc: Thinkpad list Subject: Re: NT 4.0 on a Thinkpad - IBM site for NT drivers In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: InterActions! http://callisto.si.usherb.ca/~94251116 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On 22 Apr 1997, Phillip J. Windley wrote: > I'm trying to install NT 4.0 on a 560 right now and having fits. The 560 > has an external CD-ROM and I'm having some grief. The installation > instructions make it sound easy, but its not going so well. I'd appreciate > any feedback you get. Hello Phillip, You and anybody installing NT 4.0 should visit IBM's site for NT 4.0 drivers: http://www.us.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/tpwnt.html The latest and greatest new addition to those drivers are the PC Card Director (PCMCIA support for NT) ! Enjoy, Fabian Rodriguez From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 22 23:32:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA284926347; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:32:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23041; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:31:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:22:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22058; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:22:15 -0400 Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22024; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:22:10 -0400 Received: from c4rv.demon.co.uk ([158.152.168.2]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa0515650; 22 Apr 97 17:18 BST Message-Id: <4wsanCA716WzEwB+@c4rv.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 19:10:03 +0100 To: Paul Khoury Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" From: Rajesh Varia Subject: Re: Server Software on ThinkPads In-Reply-To: <199704202224.PAA10817@iceland.it.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 1.12 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In message <199704202224.PAA10817@iceland.it.earthlink.net>, Paul Khoury writes >I know this is going to sound silly, but has anyone upgraded >their ThinkPad and used it as a server for a small >network, using OS/2 Warp Server, NT Server, Linux, or whatever? Any problems? >How was installation? >Any significant number of crashes? > >Thanks. > >Paul Khoury >pkhoury@earthlink.net > I have used a 755cx (32 meg, 810 HDD) on several occasions as a DC when training with about 10-12 warp clients attached and using network served applications (using standard IBM 16/4 PCMCIA token ring card). The disk access is a bit slow and more memory would definetly have helped, but there is nothing special that you need to upgrade on your thinkpad. -- Rajesh Varia From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 03:02:36 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA075458955; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 03:02:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07833; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 03:02:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 02:52:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06938; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 02:52:37 -0400 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (mail1.halcyon.com [206.63.63.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06924; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 02:52:31 -0400 From: Received: from evt-mx100-ip61.halcyon.com by mail1.halcyon.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/10Nov96-0444PM) id AA14719; Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:52:52 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970422235220.006a9498@mail.halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@mail.halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:52:20 -0700 To: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP560 & Pansonic CD In-Reply-To: <199704230213.WAA27847@brickbat8.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 09:48 PM 4/22/97, Jeffrey S. Schwartz wrote: >there are drivers ib the pansonic site that are designed for use tieh >the PCI series of TP's. I know that they work for the 760e's series. > Jeff, Are you saying that the 560 has a PCI card slot and the 365 does not? There is certainly nothing in the documentation of either computer of this difference. I'll try the drivers and report back. Thanks for an interesting tip, Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 06:00:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA145029650; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 06:00:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA29479; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 05:56:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 05:55:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA29324; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 05:55:23 -0400 Received: from lance.castle.net (root@LANCE.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA29308; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 05:55:19 -0400 Received: from BRIDGE73.CASTLE.NET (BRIDGE73.CASTLE.NET [204.97.214.68]) by lance.castle.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA03170 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 04:57:32 -0500 Received: by BRIDGE73.CASTLE.NET with Microsoft Mail id <01BC4FAA.D35DB660@BRIDGE73.CASTLE.NET>; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 05:54:36 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC4FAA.D35DB660@BRIDGE73.CASTLE.NET> From: Michael Bernstein To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Mailserver help Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 05:54:14 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry for the Spam, but what is the address that I send to, to = subscribe/unsubscribe to this list? I know the address is usually in = the header, but for some reason, my e-mail software doesn't display the = full header. Again, sorry for the Spam...of sorts. Michael Bernstein From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 06:54:19 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA164272859; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 06:54:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA03240; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 06:53:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 06:53:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA03162; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 06:52:58 -0400 Received: from PhoneLink.COM (fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM [193.195.138.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA03151; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 06:52:52 -0400 Received: from freemuda.prod.PhoneLink.COM by fmgateb.PhoneLink.COM id aa22911; 23 Apr 97 11:50 BST Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 11:50:59 BST From: chaplin@emarkt.com Subject: Infrared to Psion Series 3c? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <230497113333000C.chaplin@emarkt.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I use a Thinkpad 760LD and am thinking about purchaing a Psion Series 3c. Can I transfer information between the two computers via the infrared ports, eg appointments etc in MS Outlook on the Thinkpad to the diary on the Series 3c? If anyone has any experience or opinions please could they pass them on. Many thanks Philip For file attachments please e-mail first. -- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 07:09:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA169903745; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:09:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15323; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 04:19:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 04:18:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15166; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 04:18:22 -0400 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk (mail-a.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA15120; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 04:18:08 -0400 Received: from camelot.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:54:55 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970423075410.00ae117c@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:54:10 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Thinkpad 760CD Questions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu So, I finally upgraded my TP750Cs to a TP760CD at Computer Exchange on Tottenham Court Road in London. This is a 120 MHz 24MB 1.3GB TFT 800x600 MWAVE system. Since it came w/ limited documentation (e.g. proof of purchase included but none of the manuals, cables, etc you get with new system), I am curious about a few things. I reinstalled Win95, and most of the Thinkpad 760CD stuff from the IBM Thinkpad support site. Questions: o What are the two tiny three pin miniature DIN like connectors on the left side of the unit? One has an icon that looks like a battery and the other one has an icon that looks like a screen. o What are the two miniature connectors above the docking port connector? o Where do you plug in a phone when using MWAVE modem? o Where is the joystick connector? o Does anyone have IBM part numbers for ordering any cables which might be necessary for routine use of the TP760CD? o I gather this system comes with integral MPEG 2 decoder. Can I play MPEG movies from an external 4X CDROM through my Adaptec Slim SCSI adaptor? o Where does one buy CD ROM MPEG movies like Casablanca? o To confirm -- video resolution is limited on LCD to 800x600 x 16 bits per pixel? o What is outboard monitor resolution? o How does one fit another disk drive, extra battery, etc into the floppy drive (ultra) bay? What part numbers are required as adaptors to use this bay? o Where can I buy caddies to hold my OEM HD drives? What thickness drive will the original IBM caddy hold? I have one IBM DPRA-21250 & one DCRA-22160 drive which I'd use if possible (17 mm height?). o For linux -- video is Trident TGUI 9320 chipset? Can linux speak to MWAVE audio chips? o I seem to be missing cs3kit.exp from the OEM disk images in WINDOWS\CABS. Is this important? o Has anyone managed to get an old IBM Home and Away 14.4 KBPS modem & Ethernet Network Adaptor to work in the TP760CD? o Has anyone used IBM VoiceType Dictation in TP760CD? Thanks Alexander J. Annala, PhD, MSc, MIS Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology University College London From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 07:28:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA177304903; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:28:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05689; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:27:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:27:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05580; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:26:58 -0400 Received: from bcarsde4.localhost (mailgate.nortel.ca [192.58.194.74]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05562; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:26:53 -0400 Message-Id: <199704231126.HAA05562@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from bcarsfba.ott.bnr.ca (actually bcarsfba.bnr.ca) by bcarsde4.localhost; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:24:06 -0400 Received: from bnr.ca by bcarsfba.bnr.ca id <12094-0@bcarsfba.bnr.ca>; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:22:42 -0400 Date: 23 Apr 1997 07:22 EDT Sender: "Daniel Hammett" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Daniel Hammett" Subject: CPU Upgrades for TP 750 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Folks, It's been a while since I saw this topic posted, and I am ever the optimist. The question is fairly straight forward - does anyone know of a CPU upgrade for the ThinkPad 750? The original CPU is a 486SL/33 and I had heard that there was no upgrade path from SL parts. Are there no higher speed SL CPUs or did Intel only make the 33MHz version? Thanks for any replies, Dan. *---------------------------------------------------------------* | Dan Hammett - TN-16X Hardware Engineer | *---------------------------------------------------------------* | NORTEL Engineering Centre | | | Doagh Road, | Tel: +44 (0) 1232 363525 | | Newtownabbey | ESN: 6 751 3525 | | Co. Antrim, BT36 6XA | Email: dhammett@nortel.com | | Northern Ireland | | *---------------------------------------------------------------* | Opinions expressed in this email are mine, not my employer's | *---------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 07:49:28 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA185586167; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:49:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07422; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:48:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:47:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07310; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:47:55 -0400 Received: from mail.microserve.net (mail.microserve.net [207.44.0.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07300; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:47:50 -0400 Received: from default (eye.microserve.com [198.70.182.26]) by mail.microserve.net (8.8.5/naISPa) with ESMTP id HAA26065 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:46:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704231146.HAA26065@mail.microserve.net> From: "Joseph Pugliese" To: "thinkpad submissions" Subject: thinkpad newsgroup Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:47:56 -0700 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I found a thinkpad newsgroup which is practically empty. the address is ibm.ibmpc.thinkpad If everyone could send a copy of their newsletter post to that address it could stimulate activity and we could have another good venue for thinkpad users. Joseph Pugliese email:jpuglies@eye.microserve.com jpuglies@pol.net http:www.microserve.net/~jpuglies From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 09:19:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA220611576; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 09:19:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15169; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 09:19:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 09:17:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15001; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 09:17:28 -0400 Received: from callisto.si.usherb.ca (callisto.si.USherb.ca [132.210.10.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14991; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 09:17:25 -0400 Received: by callisto.si.usherb.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA135094; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 09:14:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 09:14:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Fabian Rodriguez <94251116@callisto.si.usherb.ca> Reply-To: Fabian.Rodriguez@callisto.si.usherb.ca Cc: Thinkpad list Subject: Re: thinkpad newsgroup In-Reply-To: <199704231146.HAA26065@mail.microserve.net> Message-Id: Organization: InterActions! http://callisto.si.usherb.ca/~94251116 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I found a thinkpad newsgroup which is practically empty. > the address is ibm.ibmpc.thinkpad My news feed does not carry it. Is it on a special news host? HOw aqbout posting to comp.sys.laptop? Fabian Rodriguez From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 10:16:56 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA244685013; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:16:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20748; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:15:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:14:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20382; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:14:18 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20372; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:14:14 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp ([199.179.139.10]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03162; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 08:17:31 -0600 Message-Id: <335E1911.86A127E2@wwsi.com> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 08:13:37 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Fabian.Rodriguez@callisto.si.usherb.ca Cc: Thinkpad list Subject: Re: thinkpad newsgroup X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The ibm.* news groups are internal ibm newsgroups (actually, the last I knew, they were echoed between the mainframe "FORUM"s and the Unix newsservers within IBM. (I used to work on the gateway code a little bit in my "spare time".) I've heard rumors that some of the CFORUMs ("Customer FORUMs") are available on the 'net's newsservers, but I've never actually been able to find or post to them. -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 10:49:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA258976948; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:49:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23863; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:44:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:41:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23591; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:41:35 -0400 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@[204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23579; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:41:30 -0400 Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA03717 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:41:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP560 & Pansonic CD In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970422235220.006a9498@mail.halcyon.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 22 Apr 1997 karensw@halcyon.com wrote: > At 09:48 PM 4/22/97, Jeffrey S. Schwartz wrote: > >there are drivers ib the pansonic site that are designed for use tieh > >the PCI series of TP's. I know that they work for the 760e's series. > > Are you saying that the 560 has a PCI card slot and the 365 does not? There > is certainly nothing in the documentation of either computer of this > difference. I'll try the drivers and report back. It is more a matter of what the internal busses are. It doesn't mean that they ever have to break out into the familiar full sized slots and cards you would normally asociate with PCI. Many full sized desktops have several PCI devices built into their motherboards, so why not do it with compact portables? Some sources have claimed that while the TP560 is mostly PCI, that the video system is attached via a VLB bus. I wish I could remember where I saw that info though. I have no idea how valid it is right at the moment. Steve TP560-120 owner. ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 11:34:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA279759692; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 11:34:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29298; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 11:33:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 11:32:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29040; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 11:32:01 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29029; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 11:31:56 -0400 Received: from mypc.usc.edu (comserv-i-71.usc.edu [128.125.224.143]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id IAA01442; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 08:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970423083208.014aef88@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 08:33:14 -0700 To: "Daniel Hammett" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: CPU Upgrades for TP 750 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 07:22 AM 4/23/97 EDT, Daniel Hammett wrote: >It's been a while since I saw this topic posted, and I am ever the >optimist. The question is fairly straight forward - does anyone know of >a CPU upgrade for the ThinkPad 750? The original CPU is a 486SL/33 and I >had heard that there was no upgrade path from SL parts. > >Are there no higher speed SL CPUs or did Intel only make the 33MHz >version? Nada. No other SL-type chips were made, as Intel then proceeded to make *all* chips "low-power" of sorts (well, mostly), eliminating the need for the SL. To top it all off, the SL had some different pinout or packaging, so there's no chance you'll be able to upgrade it since no other chips can match the packaging. It was a very unique little animal. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 14:08:39 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA049288914; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:08:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14485; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:07:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:03:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14001; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:03:27 -0400 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (CNRI.Reston.VA.US [132.151.1.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13986; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:03:18 -0400 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa16293; 23 Apr 97 14:02 EDT Received: from localhost by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA27241; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 13:59:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 13:59:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Manheimer X-Sender: klm@glyph Reply-To: klm@python.org To: Hanno Wagner , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: Fabian.Rodriguez@callisto.si.usherb.ca Subject: Re: Coexist WinNT40 and others... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Fabian Rodriguez wrote: > On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Hanno Wagner wrote: > > > Well... I have NT4.0, OS/2 Warp Merlin and Linux-2.0.29 on my > > hard drive, without problems. > > The only thing is, i can't hibernate my thinkpad in Linux - > > anyone has a hint why? > > There is a WWW page about installing Linux on thinkpads.. > Take a look at: > http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/tp-linux.html > > I would say that Linux does not have all the APM (advanced power > management) features that the other OSs do. That's an unfortunate guess - with the APM package installed, i can suspend and hibernate my thinkpad from both linux and windows 95. Hanno's problem may be that he needs to have a DOS partition, probably c:, in which the thinkpad can put the hibernate file. The file is slightly larger than the amount of RAM in the thinkpad, so the partition needs to at least that big... (Incidentally, regarding the coexistence of NT and linux - i recently set them + win95 up on my PC, using NT's bootloader to select between. The following is an invaluable reference for setting it up: http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~sedmison/directboot.html I used the 'dd' method to create the linux boot sector for the NT loader - the bootpart-based method didn't work for me.) Ken Manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us 703 620-8990 x268 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 14:20:57 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA054839657; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:20:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15737; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:19:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:17:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15382; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:17:01 -0400 Received: from deneb.dfn.de (deneb.dfn.de [192.76.176.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15356; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:16:52 -0400 Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (rzgw.rz.fh-hannover.de) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) id AA17074; Wed, 23 Apr 97 20:17:40 +0200 Received: from bidnix.ik.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA31922; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 20:13:36 +0200 Received: from localhost by bidnix.ik.fh-hannover.de with smtp id m0wK6aw-000rI2C (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 20:16:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 20:16:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Hanno Wagner To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Coexist WinNT40 and others... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi ;-) On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Ken Manheimer wrote: > That's an unfortunate guess - with the APM package installed, i can > suspend and hibernate my thinkpad from both linux and windows 95. Interesting.... > Hanno's problem may be that he needs to have a DOS partition, probably > c:, in which the thinkpad can put the hibernate file. The file is Well... I do have NT4.0 on the first partition, a FAT partition, got the Utilitys for NT and made a hibernation file... I normally mount this partition (/dev/hda2) in /NT, so it os there and it is visible. root@discworld:~# mount /dev/hda4 on / type ext2 (rw) proc on /proc type proc (rw) /dev/hda2 on /NT type vfat (rw,bg) root@discworld:~# ls -l /NT/pm_hiber.bin -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 21708800 Apr 22 08:51 /NT/pm_hiber.bin well... the apmd works... suspend works, but if I try to hibernate, the Thinkpad only beeps low - but nothing else happens... Any suggestions? Ciao, Hanno -- | Hanno Wagner | Member of the HTML Writers Guild | Rince@IRC | | Eine gewerbliche Nutzung meiner Email-Adressen ist nicht gestattet! | | pgp-fingerprint: 7D C1 01 72 75 22 01 4F 6F 08 06 49 1B 02 4A A6 | | 74 a3 53 cc 0b 19 - we did it! | From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 14:22:29 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA055419746; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:22:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15965; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:20:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:18:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15545; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:18:14 -0400 Received: from apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu (apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu [155.246.18.128]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15535; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:18:10 -0400 Received: from war.dmi.stevens-tech.edu by apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Dec94-0213PM) id AA19847; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:18:08 -0400 From: "M. Arifi Koseoglu" Received: by war.dmi.stevens-tech.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/08Jul96-1245PM) id AA23867; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:18:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:18:07 -0400 Message-Id: <9704231818.AA23867@war.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 Audio/Speaker question+problem Reply-To: arifi@dmi.stevens-tech.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi ! I have a question (problem) regarding audio on a TP 701 CS. Here is what happened: On the weekend, my girlfriend (it is her machine) was playing some audio files on the machine, running off the battery. Well, apparently the battery was almost exhausted, and a message appeared saying to save and exit applications since the machine will power itself down. (She is using windows 3.11, btw) Well, she attempted to connect the power adapter, but before that the machine aborted the audio program, and shut down. When she powered it on after connecting the power, windows complained about some missing DLL files, she does not remember the exact names for (probably audio drivers). They attempted to restore them from a diskette etc., now windows does not complain about missing DLLs anymore, but the speaker does not work properly: it produces no or very very quiet sound, occasionally with some buzzing. What are your suggestions as to what happened ? What possible fixes would you suggest ? Thanks in advance, Arifi -- Arifi Koseoglu arifi@dmi.stevens-tech.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 18:49:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA172685791; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:49:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15296; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:49:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:46:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15098; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:46:43 -0400 Received: from andrew.cais.com (andrew.cais.com [199.0.216.215]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15083; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:46:37 -0400 Received: from cais.cais.com (rj@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by andrew.cais.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/cais-andrew-jdf) with SMTP id SAA21790 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:46:36 -0400 (EDT) From: rj To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701 / TP560 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm considering getting a 560/133 to replace my 701/75 but I can not find one locally to try and see if we're compatible. So, my questions to the list are: - how do the DS LCD's compare - do the keyboards feel pretty much the same or what - any problems configuring perf'ls that worked for the 701 There are probably more that do not come to mind at the moment, so any comments good, bad, or whatever greatly appreciated. Regards. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 19:18:01 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA185387480; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 19:18:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17451; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 19:17:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 19:16:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17332; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 19:16:13 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17322; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 19:16:08 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA03597; Wed, 23 Apr 97 13:16:04 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA00976; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 13:16:59 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199704232316.NAA00976@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: TP701 / TP560 To: rj@cais.com (rj) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 97 13:16:57 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "rj" at Apr 23, 97 6:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just replaced a TFT 701 with a DSTN 560P133, so I can give you a partial answer: > - how do the DS LCD's compare The 560 DSTN is acceptably good - bad on motion (like all DSTN screens), but decent for static stuff. Probably better than the 701CS screen, definitely inferior to the 701C TFT screen (less bright, less contrast, less color depth) > - do the keyboards feel pretty much the same or what Very different feel (though layout is almost identical). The 701 is quite a lot stiffer, has deeper stroke, and seems larger to me (the function keys are measurably larger, the others seem larger to me though Randy Whittle took me to task for saying this elsewhere). > - any problems configuring perf'ls that worked for the 701 At least one peripheral that *didn't* work on my 701 (the IBM "International" PCMCIA modem) works well on the 560. You have to Hibernate to swap batteries on the 560, but this isn't so bad since it hibernation only takes 10-15 seconds. Sound is better on the 701. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 22:00:07 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA252477201; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 22:00:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00954; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 21:58:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 21:56:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00585; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 21:56:00 -0400 Received: from osceola.gate.net (root@osceola.gate.net [199.227.0.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00573; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 21:55:56 -0400 Received: from seminole.gate.net (mgilula@seminole.gate.net [199.227.0.14]) by osceola.gate.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA16672 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 21:55:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (mgilula@localhost) by seminole.gate.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA32770 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 21:55:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: seminole.gate.net: mgilula owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 21:55:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Marshall Gilula To: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: External KBD and TP755CD Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I can see from the manual that a special allows one to use a PS2-type kbd and a mouse, but I was wondering if _just_ a PS2-type kbd alone would work with this TP when plugged into the kbd adapter socket directly without using any additional y-cable as the manual shows. -73- Marshall From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 23 22:53:43 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA273900423; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 22:53:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06065; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 22:53:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Apr 1997 22:26:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03269; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 22:26:52 -0400 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem086.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.86]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03247; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 22:26:44 -0400 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA00383; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 19:25:13 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 19:24:43 -0700 (PDT) From: derelict To: Marshall Gilula Subject: RE: External KBD and TP755CD Cc: Thinkpad Mailing List Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Nope. You need the Y adapter to use the keyboard. -Mike On 24-Apr-97 Marshall Gilula wrote: >I can see from the manual that a special allows one to use a PS2-type >kbd and a mouse, but I was wondering if _just_ a PS2-type kbd alone would >work with this TP when plugged into the kbd adapter socket directly >without using any additional y-cable as the manual shows. > >-73- >Marshall > -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 24 01:37:02 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA041820222; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 01:37:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19461; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 01:36:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Apr 1997 01:34:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19225; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 01:34:34 -0400 Received: from barley.adnc.com (barley.adnc.com [205.216.138.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19214; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 01:34:29 -0400 Received: from hebron.royl.com by barley.adnc.com (SMI-8.6/SVRMailer ADN 1/96) id WAA08723; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 22:37:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199704240537.WAA08723@barley.adnc.com> From: "Stephen Hosmer" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 97 21:19:05 +0800 Reply-To: "Stephen Hosmer" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Stephen Hosmer's Registered PMMail 1.9 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Future Think Pads Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The TP760Cd does have stereo speakers, and a great keyboard. It's just that we don't have a floppy and CD at the same time. Or at least we don't untill IBM gets some stock on the external floppy connection cable. Does anyone have a solution to allow use of the flop and CD together? On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 03:37:27 EDT, sirgwynz@juno.com wrote: >I'm not too sure what the Mwave board is about, but the 365 models are SB >Pro compatible. >It would've been nice tho to have 2 built in speakers for the stereo, >much like the Sharp laptops, >but only if could be done without sacrificing the keyboard :) ________________________________ Royale Energy Inc. (NASDAQ:ROYL) Stephen Hosmer (hosmer@royl.com) CFO From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 24 07:14:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA170110470; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 07:14:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20774; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 07:14:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Apr 1997 07:11:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20612; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 07:11:24 -0400 Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20602; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 07:11:19 -0400 From: Received: from uucp1.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp1.UU.NET [192.48.96.39]) id QQcmqm03993; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 07:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw.UUCP by uucp1.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 07:11:17 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailgw.wellspringres.com id AA861890792 Thu, 24 Apr 97 07:06:32 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 97 07:06:32 Message-Id: <9703248618.AA861890792@mailgw.wellspringres.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: PC Connect Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm considering PC Connection, PC Zone and Micro Warehouse as a hardware source as they seem to have reasonable prices. Anyone have any good/bad experiences with them that you would be willing to share? One point that makes me a little nervous is that none of the three seem to have a definitive return policy especially with respect to dissatisfaction and occasionally I am forced to make a blind purchase. Thanks! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 24 08:50:22 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA206876221; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 08:50:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28135; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 08:48:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Apr 1997 08:47:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27920; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 08:47:08 -0400 Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27910; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 08:47:03 -0400 Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA46194; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 08:44:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 08:44:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: Ben Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hello, new in this list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've got NT4.0 WS and Solaris X86 together on one hard drive on my 755CD. I use the X86 "Boot manager" to select which operating system to go into and it works fine. One hint however: Do yourself a favor and make a small FAT partition in addition to your NTFS partition. X86 can mount FAT partitions for read and write, so if you want to copy files between NT and X86 that is the best way to do it. Josh On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Ben wrote: > > I will be installing NT4.0 WS, has anybody tried that yet? I will also > > Ok, since we're talking about NT4.0 and Thinkpads, does anyone know if > NT4.0 will willingly coexist with other OS's on the box? I.e. perhaps > FreeBSD or Solaris x86? > > > Greetings fromSherbrooke, QC,Canada > > Indeed. And a great big shout out from Paris, France. > > Ben. > ____ > Ben Samman.................................................ben@edelweb.fr > Paris, France Illudium Q36 Explosive Space Modulator > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 24 10:40:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA252992826; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:40:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09232; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:39:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:38:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09076; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:38:03 -0400 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09066; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:37:59 -0400 Received: from cadezia-03.execpc.com (cadezia-03.execpc.com [169.207.66.69]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id JAA07035; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 09:37:52 -0500 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PC Connect Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:40:01 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <33637070.58550251@mailgate.execpc.com> References: <9703248618.AA861890792@mailgw.wellspringres.com> In-Reply-To: <9703248618.AA861890792@mailgw.wellspringres.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 24 Apr 97 07:06:32 , you wrote: > > I'm considering PC Connection, PC Zone and Micro Warehouse as a=20 > hardware source as they seem to have reasonable prices. Anyone have= =20 I don't have any "war stories", but I would also consider CDW (see http://www.cdw.com. They are one of the largest and may have a policy that fits your needs. Tom Kustner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 24 11:07:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA275124466; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:07:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12100; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:07:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:06:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11970; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:06:12 -0400 Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11932; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:06:01 -0400 From: Received: from uucp6.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp6.UU.NET [192.48.96.37]) id QQcmrc08696; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw.UUCP by uucp6.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:05:57 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailgw.wellspringres.com id AA861902913 Thu, 24 Apr 97 10:28:33 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 97 10:28:33 Message-Id: <9703248619.AA861902913@mailgw.wellspringres.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP560 vs TP701 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I considering replacing a TP701/DX75/24MB with a TP560/133/40MB unfortunately I haven't been able to actually use a 560 and am wondering how the two compare performance wise, nor have I been able to find any objective bench marks. From lurking on this list for awhile I believe several members have made this transition, at least from the 701 to the 560 if not the specific configurations. Anyone willing to share there objective and/or subjective experience is greatly appreciated. Thanks!! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 24 11:38:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA001756334; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:38:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15012; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:37:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:34:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14585; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:34:26 -0400 Received: from mhub1.tc.umn.edu (0@mhub1.tc.umn.edu [128.101.131.51]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14554; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:34:17 -0400 Received: from gold.tc.umn.edu by mhub1.tc.umn.edu; Thu, 24 Apr 97 10:34:13 -0500 Received: from x124-42.bhs.umn.edu by gold.tc.umn.edu; Thu, 24 Apr 97 10:34:13 -0500 Message-Id: <335F7CDD.D8B79A0@gold.tc.umn.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:31:44 -0500 From: "Christopher E. Johnson" Organization: Institute for Health Services Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Kustner Cc: Robert_Huber_at_WYATT__1CALL__WDC@wellspringres.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PC Connect X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <9703248618.AA861890792@mailgw.wellspringres.com> <33637070.58550251@mailgate.execpc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tom Kustner wrote: > On Thu, 24 Apr 97 07:06:32 , you wrote: > > > > > I'm considering PC Connection, PC Zone and Micro Warehouse as > a > > hardware source as they seem to have reasonable prices. Anyone > have > > I don't have any "war stories", but I would also consider CDW (see > http://www.cdw.com. They are one of the largest and may have a > policy > that fits your needs. > > Tom Kustner > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation > System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. > Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA > Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. I have used CDW to make a number of purchases and have always had a good experience. I have even exchanged items with no problems. Their prices are the best in some areas and a little more expensive in others, but I have been very happy with CDW's service. Chris From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 24 13:13:52 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA087702029; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 13:13:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19587; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:25:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:24:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19387; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:23:59 -0400 Received: from morgana.punk.net (sparker@morgana.punk.net [204.212.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19361; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:23:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (sparker@localhost) by morgana.punk.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05265 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 09:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 09:23:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Parker To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP560 vs TP701 In-Reply-To: <9703248619.AA861902913@mailgw.wellspringres.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 24 Apr 1997 Robert_Huber_at_WYATT__1CALL__WDC@wellspringres.com wrote: > > I considering replacing a TP701/DX75/24MB with a TP560/133/40MB > unfortunately I haven't been able to actually use a 560 and am > wondering how the two compare performance wise, nor have I been able > to find any objective bench marks. From lurking on this list for > awhile I believe several members have made this transition, at least > from the 701 to the 560 if not the specific configurations. Anyone > willing to share there objective and/or subjective experience is > greatly appreciated. I have a TP560-120 with 40MB RAM. Pick your benchmarks and if they are fairly Net accesible I'll run 'em for you and give you my results. I generally describe my P120 as performing about like a decent P90 desktop system. A TP560-133 should be ~10% faster than my machine, so I guess it would roughly match a decent P100 desktop. I bought my machine used in January and think it is just great. The 12.1" TFT screen is great. The lame little IBM Home & Away 14.4 modem/10bT Ethernet works fine in it. If you need ethernet, plus a spare 14.4 modem for $35 or so you can get them from Damark. Steve ============================================================================ Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that "freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license;" and they will define and define freedom out of existence. -- Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) ============================================================================ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 24 14:01:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA118964915; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:01:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27647; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 13:59:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Apr 1997 13:57:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27390; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 13:57:53 -0400 Received: from atlas.corp.mei.com (atlas.mis.mei.com [151.186.47.172]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27369; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 13:57:42 -0400 Received: from KOLYA (KOLYA [151.186.47.91]) by atlas.corp.mei.com (NTMail 3.02.10) with ESMTP id qa010364 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:56:11 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970424125305.00959e40@atlas.corp.mei.com> X-Sender: nick@atlas.corp.mei.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:53:06 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Nick Rushizky Subject: TP 760E, NT 4 Server, and Docking stations Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Basically.. anybody have any trouble getting all of the above to work? Darned if I can remember the IBM name of the unit, but I have the docking station, consisting of the regular port replicator as well as a base unit for another Ultrabay. I have to see if I can run this with NT Server 4. Boldly going where I have little clue... Nick Rushizky Nick@atlas.corp.mei.com Marquette Medical Systems All views are mine, all mine!! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 24 14:55:58 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA143578157; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:55:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03285; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:54:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:53:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03150; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:53:17 -0400 Received: from emout03.mail.aol.com (emout03.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.94]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03134; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:53:12 -0400 From: Received: (from root@localhost) by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA09817 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:53:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:53:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <970424145307_1022934983@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: My first problem Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have had my Thinkpad a whole 3 weeks and already have to send it to EasyServe. I FINALLY received the rest of my memory today and installed it. I booted up my system, and as normal, my password prompt came up. However, my keyboard decided to go into retirement. So, I can't boot up my computer. I called tech support and they are sending me the box tomorrow to pack up my Thinkpad and then call FedEx. Is there any kind of credit you can get it you have all your notes for a class that you have a test in on Monday??? I won't have my Thinkpad back until Tuesday at the earliest. I can't study for my PSI test. Is it possible to get any kind of a credit? John Ruda http://www.cybercom.net/~ruda/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 24 18:26:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA238590769; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:26:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23366; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:20:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:18:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23081; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:18:22 -0400 Received: from GRUMPY.USU.EDU (grumpy.usu.edu [129.123.1.86]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23071; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:18:17 -0400 Received: from slppj.usu.edu (asy25.xy1.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01II38VM6ZMA8YF86H@cc.usu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 16:18:10 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 16:18:13 -0600 From: Greg Alvandian Subject: Re: My first problem To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <335FDC25.6F0C@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <970424145307_1022934983@emout03.mail.aol.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Disneyjazz@aol.com wrote: > > I have had my Thinkpad a whole 3 weeks and already have to send it to > EasyServe. I FINALLY received the rest of my memory today and installed it. > I booted up my system, and as normal, my password prompt came up. However, > my keyboard decided to go into retirement. So, I can't boot up my computer. > I called tech support and they are sending me the box tomorrow to pack up my > Thinkpad and then call FedEx. Is there any kind of credit you can get it you > have all your notes for a class that you have a test in on Monday??? I won't > have my Thinkpad back until Tuesday at the earliest. I can't study for my > PSI test. Is it possible to get any kind of a credit? > > John Ruda > http://www.cybercom.net/~ruda/ Have you tried removing the memory you just installed and seeing if it will boot properly with out the extra memory? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 24 18:57:51 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA253652670; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:57:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26040; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:52:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:50:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25891; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:50:29 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25867; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:50:20 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA07629; Thu, 24 Apr 97 12:50:17 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA00503; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 12:51:10 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199704242251.MAA00503@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: PC Connect To: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 97 12:51:09 HST Cc: Robert_Huber_at_WYATT__1CALL__WDC@wellspringres.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <33637070.58550251@mailgate.execpc.com>; from "Tom Kustner" at Apr 24, 97 2:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > > > I'm considering PC Connection, PC Zone and Micro Warehouse as a=20 > > hardware source as they seem to have reasonable prices. Anyone have= > =20 > > I don't have any "war stories", but I would also consider CDW (see > http://www.cdw.com. They are one of the largest and may have a policy > that fits your needs. I second the suggestion of CDW (though they are nowhere near as large as Micro Warehouse). I've purchased quite a lot of equipment from them over the years with no problems. Other companies with good reputations (and reliable online catalogues) are Insight, PCMall, and NECX. Lately I seem to have bought a lot of stuff from Internet Shopping Network (www.isn.com). - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 24 19:13:25 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA258843604; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 19:13:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27211; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 19:07:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Apr 1997 19:06:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27075; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 19:06:37 -0400 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (mail1.halcyon.com [206.63.63.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27047; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 19:06:23 -0400 From: Received: from evt-mx100-ip96.halcyon.com by mail1.halcyon.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/10Nov96-0444PM) id AA12437; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 16:06:31 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970424160538.006a2384@mail.halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@mail.halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 16:05:38 -0700 To: , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PC Connect In-Reply-To: <9703248618.AA861890792@mailgw.wellspringres.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 07:06 AM 4/24/97, Robert_Huber_at_WYATT__1CALL__WDC@wellspringres.com wrote: > > I'm considering PC Connection, PC Zone and Micro Warehouse as a > hardware source as they seem to have reasonable prices. Anyone have > any good/bad experiences with them that you would be willing to share? > One point that makes me a little nervous is that none of the three > seem to have a definitive return policy especially with respect to > dissatisfaction and occasionally I am forced to make a blind purchase. > > Thanks! > > Robert, I have ordered many products from PC Connection over the last several years and have nothing but good things to say about them. I have not been in the position of having to return anything so can't comment on this aspect. Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 24 20:51:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA285779506; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 20:51:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03683; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 20:45:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Apr 1997 20:43:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03474; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 20:43:27 -0400 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03445; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 20:43:21 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out1.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id AAA159238 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 00:43:13 GMT Received: from slip129-37-211-109.wi.us.ibm.net(129.37.211.109) by out1.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaHhYDmb; Fri Apr 25 00:41:49 1997 Message-Id: <335FFD80.F88B7C2A@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 19:40:33 -0500 From: "Joseph C. Wilson" Reply-To: jcwilso@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: ThinkPad Post Subject: Re: PC Connect X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <9703248618.AA861890792@mailgw.wellspringres.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Robert_Huber_at_WYATT__1CALL__WDC@wellspringres.com wrote: > I'm considering PC Connection, PC Zone and Micro Warehouse as a > > hardware source as they seem to have reasonable prices. Anyone > have > any good/bad experiences with them that you would be willing to > share? > One point that makes me a little nervous is that none of the > three > seem to have a definitive return policy especially with respect > to > dissatisfaction and occasionally I am forced to make a blind > purchase. > > Thanks! Robert, I have had great luck w/ PC Connection for over 10 years. They have always treated me honestly and fairly. I don't have any experience with the others you mention but you will not do wrong by going w/ PC Connection. I would absolutely- positively avoid USA Flex (liars). You might also consider CDW in Chicago (800-631-4239). Good prices and availability. Good luck. Joe Wilson Milwaukee, WI From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 25 00:53:48 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA056854028; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 00:53:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23468; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 00:53:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Apr 1997 00:47:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23137; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 00:47:28 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23127; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 00:47:22 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA08908; Thu, 24 Apr 97 18:47:21 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA00783; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:48:16 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199704250448.SAA00783@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Infrared to Psion Series 3c? To: chaplin@emarkt.com Date: Thu, 24 Apr 97 18:48:15 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <230497113333000C.chaplin@emarkt.com>; from "chaplin@emarkt.com" at Apr 23, 97 11:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > I use a Thinkpad 760LD and am thinking about purchaing a Psion Series 3c. > > Can I transfer information between the two computers via the infrared ports, eg appointments etc in MS Outlook on the Thinkpad to the diary on the Series 3c? > I think Puma (www.pumatech.com) has software for this. - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Apr 25 01:25:47 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA069675947; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 01:25:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25084; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 01:25:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Apr 1997 01:23:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24931; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 01:23:29 -0400 Received: from unexexch.unex.ucla.edu (exchange.unex.ucla.edu [128.97.115.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24921; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 01:23:25 -0400 Received: by unexexch.unex.ucla.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC50FD.F56D4BE0@unexexch.unex.ucla.edu>; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 22:22:13 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Swartz, Charles" To: "Robert_Huber_at_WYATT__1CALL__WDC@wellspringres.com" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: PC Connect Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 22:20:05 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I echo the recommendation of CDW. I bought a 560, Microcom modem, Panasonic 8X CD-ROM, and extra battery there, plus the same for my boss. At UCLA, our dept. now uses CDW for many other computer purchases. Note no sales tax to California. Charles Swartz ---------- From: tom.kustner@emjay.com[SMTP:tom.kustner@emjay.com] Sent: Thursday, April 24, 1997 7:40 AM To: Robert_Huber_at_WYATT__1CALL__WDC@wellspringres.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PC Connect On Thu, 24 Apr 97 07:06:32 , you wrote: > > I'm considering PC Connection, PC Zone and Micro Warehouse as a > hardware source as they seem to have reasonable prices. Anyone have I don't have any "war stories", but I would also consider CDW (see http://www.cdw.com. They are one of the largest and may have a policy that fits your needs. Tom Kustner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 26 06:07:37 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA289139256; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 06:07:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA13237; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 04:21:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 26 Apr 1997 04:14:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA11857; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 04:14:28 -0400 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk ([144.82.100.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08851; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 03:44:45 -0400 Received: from [128.40.81.204] (actually host mouse.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sat, 26 Apr 1997 08:44:41 +0100 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 08:53:25 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Hard Drive Caddies for TP760CD ? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What companies make hard drive caddies for TP760CD? Does anyone have experience with these caddies? What size drives fit in official IBM TP760CD caddie -- 17mm 19mm? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 26 06:08:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA289309290; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 06:08:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08990; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 03:45:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 26 Apr 1997 03:44:52 -0400 Received: by cs.utk.edu (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08861; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 03:44:50 -0400 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk ([144.82.100.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08851; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 03:44:45 -0400 Received: from [128.40.81.204] (actually host mouse.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sat, 26 Apr 1997 08:44:41 +0100 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 08:53:25 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Hard Drive Caddies for TP760CD ? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What companies make hard drive caddies for TP760CD? Does anyone have experience with these caddies? What size drives fit in official IBM TP760CD caddie -- 17mm 19mm? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 26 16:10:06 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA139195405; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:10:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02908; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:09:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:05:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02447; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:05:03 -0400 Received: from mail (mail.islandnet.com [198.53.172.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02420; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:04:58 -0400 From: Received: from rdebeck [198.53.172.56] by mail.islandnet.com with smtp id m0wLDgU-0006cCC for ; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 13:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 26 Apr 97 09:46:15 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Monitor/KB/Mouse Switchboxes X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.26 (Unregistered) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu First, Thanks to ALL for the tips & information posted here in the TPlist. I'm interested in getting a switch box that will allow me to share a single set of Monitor/Keyboard/Mouse with separate systems including my TP701cs. I have not seen much information about what's available and any price/performance/compatability issues. Quality is important to me (price is still a concern though). Is there a Price/Quality premium for more than a basic A/B switch? Are there compatabilty issues OS/2, DOS/Win, Linux, & NT? Does hot swicthing between live systems cause any problems ? Thanks for any input. :) -- ----------------------------------------------------------- rdebeck@islandnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 26 16:45:23 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA147887522; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:45:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08152; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:44:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:41:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07886; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:41:57 -0400 Received: from hq72.hq72.ca.eu.org (root@[207.194.100.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07867; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:41:50 -0400 Received: from patpres.crcn.net (st36.net129.cn.camriv.bc.ca [206.12.129.36]) by hq72.hq72.ca.eu.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA06869; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 12:45:47 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970426134242.006c6ba4@hq72.ca.eu.org> X-Sender: pat@hq72.ca.eu.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 13:42:42 -0700 To: rdebeck@islandnet.com From: Pat Presidente Subject: Re: Monitor/KB/Mouse Switchboxes Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It sounds like you really need an expanda-port. Is there not one available for the TP701? There are two models for the TP755 (of which I have both). The one at work has PS/2 port, 2 serial ports, parallel port, monitor, and 2 PCMCIA slots. I believe it was about $300 Cdn two years ago. The one I use at home has a serial, parallel, monitor and two ports for the keyboard and mouse. I believe it was about $150 Cdn. It sounds like the latter would be great for you if such an animal exists. These are great for simply snapping into all the peripherals either at work or at home. Pat At 09:46 AM 4/26/97 -0400, you wrote: >First, Thanks to ALL for the tips & information posted here in >the TPlist. > >I'm interested in getting a switch box that will allow me to >share a single set of Monitor/Keyboard/Mouse with separate >systems including my TP701cs. I have not seen much information >about what's available and any price/performance/compatability >issues. > >Quality is important to me (price is still a concern though). > >Is there a Price/Quality premium for more than a basic A/B >switch? Are there compatabilty issues OS/2, DOS/Win, Linux, & NT? > Does hot swicthing between live systems cause any problems ? > >Thanks for any input. :) >-- >----------------------------------------------------------- >rdebeck@islandnet.com >----------------------------------------------------------- > > > ===========================================================================| O _ | Pat Presidente District Technology Resource Teacher| |_-/_| | Pat.Presidente@sd72.bc.ca SD 72 425 Pinecrest Road | | | | Ph 250-830-2353 Fx 250-830-2329 Campbell River, B.C. V9W 3P2 | ===========================================================================| | "Well you know I could have me a million more friends | | And all I'd have to lose is my point of view" -John Prine | ===========================================================================| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 26 17:09:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA153878974; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 17:09:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09933; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 17:08:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 26 Apr 1997 17:05:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09670; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 17:05:49 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09659; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 17:05:44 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA20970; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 14:36:41 -0600 Message-Id: <33626662.1BBD9FBF@wwsi.com> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 14:32:34 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: rdebeck@islandnet.com Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Monitor/KB/Mouse Switchboxes X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Black Box makes some nice systems switches. They are also available from other. They are *not* inexpensive if you want the good ones! -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 26 19:33:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA188517633; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 19:33:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07287; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:33:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:24:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04354; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:23:55 -0400 Received: from siva.captech.com (siva.captech.com [207.33.153.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04172; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:23:28 -0400 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by siva.captech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA16777 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 13:23:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kensey Corp." Message-Id: <199704262023.NAA16777@siva.captech.com> Subject: mouse clicker is shot ! To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 13:23:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu hi ! i have a thinkpad 755cx, and the left mouse click is shot - only by pressing ~really~ hard can i get it to respond.... has anyone else experienced this ? is my only option to send the think away to IBM to replace it ? thanks ! doug From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 26 20:32:41 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA203131160; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 20:32:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22789; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 20:31:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 26 Apr 1997 20:27:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22322; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 20:27:56 -0400 Received: from dccomm.designcraft.com (designcraft.com [204.242.148.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22310; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 20:27:51 -0400 Received: from dyn-max12-188.chicago.il.ameritech.net by dccomm.designcraft.com id aa04577; 26 Apr 97 19:08 CDT Received: by dyn-max12-188.chicago.il.ameritech.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC5277.17DA4E60@dyn-max12-188.chicago.il.ameritech.net>; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 19:21:51 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC5277.17DA4E60@dyn-max12-188.chicago.il.ameritech.net> From: "Aaron W. Brown" To: "'THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Monitor/KB/Mouse Switchboxes Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 19:12:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I'm interested in getting a switch box that will allow me to > share a single set of Monitor/Keyboard/Mouse with separate > systems including my TP701cs. I have often wished that my crisp Thinkpad TFT display could be used as = the VGA display for a second (desktop) system. A Fn hotkey would = switch between the laptop system and the desktop system. Switch the = keyboard and Trackpoint too and I'd be in heaven! I spend hours in my = livingroom installing, upgrading and configuring computers, and the = amount of wait time (while decreasing these days) is considerable. I'd = like to read news my Thinkpad while I wait. And switch back and forth = real quick. Or am I just really lazy? Also useful for in the field = troubleshooting (i.e. dead monitor/ keyboard/mouse). I don't know if this is technically possible. Does anyone else know? = I think there might be some problems with the fixed frequency of laptop = panel displays. Would this be an expensive feature, I wouldn't think = so? I guess you would need to find room for one more (VGA in) port. I = think my feature request might be a little esoteric but no more so than = the 755 with the slide out overhead projector thingy. I throw out my idea in the hopes that some IBM engineer can relate. Aaron Brown.aaron@designcraft.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 26 20:33:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA203321207; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 20:33:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22940; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 20:32:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 26 Apr 1997 20:28:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22362; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 20:28:09 -0400 Received: from dccomm.designcraft.com (designcraft.com [204.242.148.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22343; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 20:28:02 -0400 Received: from dyn-max12-188.chicago.il.ameritech.net by dccomm.designcraft.com id aa04584; 26 Apr 97 19:08 CDT Received: by dyn-max12-188.chicago.il.ameritech.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC5277.1CCB4280@dyn-max12-188.chicago.il.ameritech.net>; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 19:21:59 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC5277.1CCB4280@dyn-max12-188.chicago.il.ameritech.net> From: "Aaron W. Brown" To: "'THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: mouse clicker is shot ! Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 19:21:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >=20 > hi ! i have a thinkpad 755cx, and the left mouse click is shot - only > by pressing ~really~ hard can i get it to respond.... has anyone else = > experienced this ? is my only option to send the think away to IBM > to replace it ? >=20 I have the same problem on my 755CD, but its not ~really~ hard, just = harder than before. Dragging is the main problem. I'm still under = warrenty, is this covered? Or is there an easy fix for this? Much more irritating than mouse recallibration. =20 Aaron Brownaaron@designcraft.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 26 21:17:45 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA214943864; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 21:17:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25729; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 21:17:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 26 Apr 1997 21:14:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25491; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 21:14:30 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu (rho.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25481; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 21:14:25 -0400 Received: from ibmtp701c.lin.org (ppp-206-170-212-72.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.212.72]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA54940 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 18:14:23 -0700 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 18:16:29 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC526D.F651CC40@eddy@ucla.edu> From: Eddy Lin Reply-To: "eddy@ucla.edu" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: TP701 Battery Hot Swap Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 18:16:28 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4008 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just got my replacement standby battery from IBM Parts and install it. Battery hot swap in suspend mode is now working in Windows 95 and DOS. Apparently, the original standby battery in my 701 is dead. My machine used to lose power if I switch battery in suspend mode which the manual claims I can do. I didn't bother to send in my machine to Easyserve because I need it on a day to day basis. I just ordered the battery for $6. It even came with an extra standby battery door. It did take 2 weeks. Hope this will help those that have problems with hot swapping their 701 battery. My machine configuration is a 701C with 24MB RAM and 1.44GB 3LP drive(upgraded). Eddy Lin From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 26 21:54:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA225226059; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 21:54:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28250; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 21:53:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 26 Apr 1997 21:50:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27987; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 21:50:51 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27955; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 21:50:43 -0400 Received: from mypc.usc.edu (comserv-d-42.usc.edu [128.125.222.114]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4/usc) with SMTP id SAA02762; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 18:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970426184510.014861a8@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 18:52:20 -0700 To: "Aaron W. Brown" From: Randy Whittle Subject: RE: Monitor/KB/Mouse Switchboxes Cc: "'THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 07:12 PM 4/26/97 -0500, Aaron W. Brown wrote: > I have often wished that my crisp Thinkpad TFT display could be used as the VGA display for a second (desktop) system. The other day I was at a CompUSA and saw a desktop machine made by Compaq that was pretty nifty. It had a flat panel TFT display, I think went to 1024x768, and it was called "Double-bright" or somesuch. Believe me, it WAS! It looked *really* good--clear, sharp--incredible. They had a little graph comparing the brightness level to other things (like a laptop TFT) and it claimed to be twice as bright. I don't know for certain that it was, but it sure looked like it. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net Marshall Graduate School of Business at USC http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle *Every* man dies. Not every man really LIVES! - William Wallace, 15th Century Scottish Freedom Fighter From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Apr 26 22:56:59 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA241879818; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 22:56:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02115; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 22:56:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 26 Apr 1997 22:53:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01877; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 22:53:10 -0400 Received: from SNEEZY.USU.EDU (sneezy.usu.edu [129.123.1.87]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01864; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 22:53:04 -0400 Received: from slppj.usu.edu (asy18.xy1.usu.edu) by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11556) id <01II6B1Y9F3A90VGWX@cc.usu.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 26 Apr 1997 20:52:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 20:53:02 -0600 From: Greg Alvandian Subject: Re: TP701 Battery Hot Swap To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Reply-To: slppj@cc.usu.edu Message-Id: <3362BF8E.5868@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USU Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <01BC526D.F651CC40%eddy@ucla.edu> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Eddy Lin wrote: > > I just got my replacement standby battery from IBM Parts and install it. > Battery hot swap in suspend mode is now working in Windows 95 and DOS. > Apparently, the original standby battery in my 701 is dead. My machine used > to lose power if I switch battery in suspend mode which the manual claims I > can do. I didn't bother to send in my machine to Easyserve because I need > it on a day to day basis. I just ordered the battery for $6. It even came > with an extra standby battery door. It did take 2 weeks. Hope this will > help those that have problems with hot swapping their 701 battery. My > machine configuration is a 701C with 24MB RAM and 1.44GB 3LP > drive(upgraded). > > Eddy Lin One thing to look out for, in Win95 original build, the OS doesn't power down the PCMCIA slots properly when going into suspend, so you may still have problems doing a hot swap if there are cards in the slot and suspend time can be reduced. There are two fixes to this if you have this problem. First you can use a FN key combo to manually flag the PCMCIA card slots to power off. I found the answer in a text file hidden on the IBM site. The key combo is Fn+F11 immediately followed by Fn+Enter. This manual key combo worked for me. The other fix is to install Win95 OS/R 2. Both which seems to address this problem and takes care of powering down the PCMCIA slots automatically when suspending. Both of these fixes worked for me (after IBM finally fixed the hardware problem on my machine). Happy swapping. Greg A. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 27 03:15:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA007135330; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:15:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17513; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:14:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:11:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17166; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:11:32 -0400 Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17153; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:11:24 -0400 Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA41808; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:09:26 -0400 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:09:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: "Alexander J. Annala" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760CD Questions In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970423075410.00ae117c@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk> Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Here are answers to some of your questions. On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Alexander J. Annala wrote: > o What are the two tiny three pin miniature DIN like > connectors on the left side of the unit? One has > an icon that looks like a battery and the other one > has an icon that looks like a screen. These are the video in and video out jacks. You need the special cables that come with the machine to use these. It works with NTSC and PAL video but not SECAM. > > o What are the two miniature connectors above the > docking port connector? I believe one is a midi/joystick port and the other is for an external floppy drive. > > o Where do you plug in a phone when using MWAVE modem? Don't you see a phone jack on the machine to plug in the phone line? You can only plug in the phone line from the wall to the thinkpad, there is not a second jack to then connect from the thinkpad to a regular phone, like you would find on other modems. > > o Where is the joystick connector? see above > > o Does anyone have IBM part numbers for ordering any > cables which might be necessary for routine use of > the TP760CD? I think you can find these at http://www.boulder.ibm.com > o To confirm -- video resolution is limited on LCD to > 800x600 x 16 bits per pixel? True, although with only 48,000 pixels on an 800x600 screen you wouldn't be able to have more than 48000 colors at any one time. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 27 03:21:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA008055684; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:21:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA18246; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:20:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:17:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17776; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:17:30 -0400 Received: from acis.mc.yu.edu (acis.mc.yu.edu [129.98.201.27]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA17766; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:17:27 -0400 Received: (from hosseino@localhost) by acis.mc.yu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA41912; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:15:29 -0400 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:15:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof X-Sender: hosseino@acis.mc.yu.edu To: "Alexander J. Annala" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard Drive Caddies for TP760CD ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I believe the standard hard drive size for the thinkpad 35x, 36x, 75x, and 76x series is 17mm. One thing you will have to watch out though is that the pin configurations for hard drives of 2.1GB and higher are different from those below 2.1GB. They will work in the caddies, its just that they are connecting different pins to set it to a master or slave IDE hard drive. So to use a 2.1GB hard drive in a 540MB caddy you will have to bend one of the pins on the hard drive over to the side. On Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Alexander J. Annala wrote: > What companies make hard drive caddies for TP760CD? > Does anyone have experience with these caddies? > What size drives fit in official IBM TP760CD caddie > -- 17mm 19mm? > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 27 04:46:00 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA026490758; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 04:45:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25487; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 04:45:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 27 Apr 1997 04:38:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24922; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 04:38:42 -0400 Received: from megspo1.megsinet.net (megspo.megsinet.net [206.222.62.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24912; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 04:38:38 -0400 Received: from randolphmax1-104.megsinet.net ([208.133.78.104]) by megspo1.megsinet.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11704) with SMTP id AAA156 for ; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:36:50 -0500 Received: by randolphmax1-104.megsinet.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC52BC.24FB27A0@randolphmax1-104.megsinet.net>; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:36:08 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC52BC.24FB27A0@randolphmax1-104.megsinet.net> From: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) To: "'tp'" Subject: RE: IR Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 12:31:46 -0500 Encoding: 21 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry my reply has taken a while... add to that the garbage that Exchange sends out as 'email.' YUCK! Anyhow, the question if I recall was is IrDa the same as remotes, how to see if IR is working and if it can be used to as a remote control. I don't know if the IrDa spec is exactly the same but your thinkpad will receive from a remote control. If I remember properly, the normal debug routine to see if IrDa is working is to use a terminal program (even the basic one from Win3.x) and set to use a direct connection to the serial port that the IrDa port is on. Set the program in receive mode, hold the remote near and inline with the IrDa port and start pressing buttons. They should show up as random character strings in the terminal window. It wouldn't surprise me if someone somewhere hasn't already done so already, but it certainly is conceivable to script an interface to use a laptop and its IrDa port as a remote control. The biggest issue I see is the proper code sequences etc.... for each and every device. It would be a novel little app, but then thinking about it why waste the resources, power etc. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 27 10:38:32 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA101951911; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 10:38:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20047; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 10:37:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 27 Apr 1997 10:34:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19811; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 10:34:38 -0400 Received: from passnotes.share.org ([192.111.120.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19801; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 10:34:34 -0400 From: Received: by passnotes.share.org(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.4 3-18-1997)) id 86256486.00500BB2 ; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 09:34:18 -0500 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: SHARE INC To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <86256486.005021B5.00@passnotes.share.org> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 09:39:01 -0500 Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760CD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu err... 800x600 = 480,000 ;-) rich >> o To confirm -- video resolution is limited on LCD to >> 800x600 x 16 bits per pixel? > >True, although with only 48,000 pixels on an 800x600 screen you wouldn't >be able to have more than 48000 colors at any one time. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 27 19:44:03 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA233694643; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:44:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28847; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:43:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:40:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28622; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:40:52 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu (rho.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28612; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:40:48 -0400 Received: from ibmtp701c.lin.org (ppp-206-170-213-45.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.213.45]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA25210 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 16:40:45 -0700 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 16:42:50 -0700 Message-Id: <01BC532A.0B523500@eddy@ucla.edu> From: Eddy Lin Reply-To: "eddy@ucla.edu" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: TP701 Battery Hot Swap Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 16:42:48 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4008 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks for the advice. The PCMCIA cards may have been the cause all along. I do have Win95 OSR2 now and it seems to work fine. Now I just need to get used to trusting my 701 to hot swap the battery without losing my work. I still save it before I do a swap of course. Eddy -----Original Message----- From: Greg Alvandian [SMTP:slppj@cc.usu.edu] Sent: Saturday, April 26, 1997 7:53 PM To: 'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu' Subject: Re: TP701 Battery Hot Swap Eddy Lin wrote: > > I just got my replacement standby battery from IBM Parts and install it. > Battery hot swap in suspend mode is now working in Windows 95 and DOS. > Apparently, the original standby battery in my 701 is dead. My machine used > to lose power if I switch battery in suspend mode which the manual claims I > can do. I didn't bother to send in my machine to Easyserve because I need > it on a day to day basis. I just ordered the battery for $6. It even came > with an extra standby battery door. It did take 2 weeks. Hope this will > help those that have problems with hot swapping their 701 battery. My > machine configuration is a 701C with 24MB RAM and 1.44GB 3LP > drive(upgraded). > > Eddy Lin One thing to look out for, in Win95 original build, the OS doesn't power down the PCMCIA slots properly when going into suspend, so you may still have problems doing a hot swap if there are cards in the slot and suspend time can be reduced. There are two fixes to this if you have this problem. First you can use a FN key combo to manually flag the PCMCIA card slots to power off. I found the answer in a text file hidden on the IBM site. The key combo is Fn+F11 immediately followed by Fn+Enter. This manual key combo worked for me. The other fix is to install Win95 OS/R 2. Both which seems to address this problem and takes care of powering down the PCMCIA slots automatically when suspending. Both of these fixes worked for me (after IBM finally fixed the hardware problem on my machine). Happy swapping. Greg A. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 27 21:11:14 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA257029872; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 21:11:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04643; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 21:10:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 27 Apr 1997 21:08:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04349; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 21:08:41 -0400 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk (mail-a.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04339; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 21:08:36 -0400 Received: from [128.40.81.204] (actually host mouse.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 28 Apr 1997 02:08:33 +0100 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 02:17:17 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: TP760CD diagnostic problem? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm going to call international warranty registration to get certified for support tomorrow; but, in the interim, I am curious about whether anyone has observed a strange symptom on their Thinkpad 760 series system. I have the TP760CD, 24MB, 1.2GB, 12.1" TFT system with a hard drive labeled externally as ASM P/N 29H8928 -- FRU P/N 29H9228 -- and labeled internally as an IBM-DPRA-21215. What is really strange is that the hard drive ICON on the LCD status panel does not light when the drive is in use. Generally the drive seems to be performing OK. But, even after system BIOS update to current revision the drive is still not indicated on the LCD status panel. I think the solution may be to do a low level format using IBM's diag diskette (maintenance diskette); but, I'd rather avoid it as this would mean having to rebuild my system software. Does anyone else have a clue what is wrong? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Apr 27 22:26:27 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA277844386; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 22:26:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03350; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:51:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:49:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03139; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:49:26 -0400 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk (mail-a.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03123; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:49:21 -0400 Received: from [128.40.81.204] (actually host mouse.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 28 Apr 1997 01:49:16 +0100 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 01:57:51 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: WANTED: Older 4X CDROM from TP760CD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone who upgraded from the older/slower 4X CDROM to a high speed CDROM have an older (but still decent working) 4X CDROM they might be willing to part with for substantially less than IBM's new price for a TP760CD compatible CDROM? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Apr 28 07:40:10 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA114147609; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 07:40:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA24089; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 07:39:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Apr 1997 07:36:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23907; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 07:36:47 -0400 Received: from pica-emh0.pica.army.mil ([129.139.10.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23891; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 07:36:40 -0400 Received: by pica-emh0.pica.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 07:36:49 -0400 Message-Id: <01099F4A226FD011902A00A0249C6F955596E8@pica-emh1.pica.army.mil> From: "Ellis, Mark E." To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: mouse clicker is shot ! Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 07:37:11 -0400 X-Priority: 3 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If you're using windows 95, you can swap left for right buttons on the mouse. It would probably drive me crazy for a while until I got used to it. Then when you wear the right clicker out, send it in for service :-) -- Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Kensey Corp. [SMTP:kensey@captech.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 1997 4:23 PM > To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > Subject: mouse clicker is shot ! > > > hi ! i have a thinkpad 755cx, and the left mouse click is shot - only > by pressing ~really~ hard can i get it to respond.... has anyone else > > experienced this ? is my only option to send the think away to IBM > to replace it ? > > thanks ! > > doug From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 29 06:10:54 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA205168653; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 06:10:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14706; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 06:10:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Apr 1997 06:09:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14585; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 06:09:23 -0400 Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no (hpserv0.cs.UiT.No [129.242.16.105]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14574; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 06:09:19 -0400 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/IOH-1.0) id AA298378555; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 12:09:16 +0200 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA097308555; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 12:09:15 +0200 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199704291009.AA097308555@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: TP 760XD with norwegian Win95 OSR2 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 12:09:15 +0200 (METDST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi. I have just bought a TP760XD in Norway. IBM Norway was not able to provide me with an english version of Win95 OSR2 and gave me the norwegian version. My problem is that I am used to using the english version and I want to install it on the 760XD, but it is impossible to buy a CD-ROM with OSR2. On my former TP755CD it was easy, I just bought an english install CD from IBM whith the OS and all the other SW. But IBM will not sell this kind of CD for the 760XD. Does anyone know how to convert norwegian OSR2 installation into an english OSR2 installation on a TP760XD? --Harald From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 29 09:34:38 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA254410869; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 09:34:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00662; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 14:40:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Apr 1997 14:37:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00300; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 14:37:27 -0400 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk (mail-a.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00282; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 14:37:22 -0400 Received: from [128.40.81.204] (actually host mouse.mcbl.ucl.ac.uk) by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:36:29 +0100 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:45:05 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Thinkpad 760CD -- Power Cycling? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is it true that the power cycling problem which tends to quickly wear out batteries on the old Thinkpad 750 series is no longer a problem on the Thinkpad 760 series? I was going to try running my Thinkpad 760CD without battery when attached to line power; but, a colleague told me it was no longer necessary to do so to protect the battery. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 29 10:15:55 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA266163353; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:15:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01471; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:14:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:13:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01322; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:13:04 -0400 Received: from wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov (wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.50.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01309; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:12:59 -0400 Received: from pioneer2.gsfc.nasa.gov (pioneer3.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.169.65]) by wheelo.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA08535; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:12:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970429101216.00699b0c@pop700.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: helfrich@pop700.gsfc.nasa.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:12:17 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Daniel Helfrich Subject: Re: TP560 & Pansonic CD Cc: karensw@halcyon.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Solution posted in case anyone else has the same problem, and for discussion in case anyone has an explanation---- At 09:45 PM 4/28/97 -0700, Karen wrote: >>>The SCSI card is recognized and the CD player is recognized as a D:\ drive. >>>The drive is not damaged because it plays audio cds when disconnected from >>>the TP. When it is connected to the TP however it spins nonstop and the >>>computer locks up when I tried to open My Computer or Explorer and the >>>computer tries to read the drive's directory. I can only stop the drive by >>>opening it and have to hard reboot the computer. Auto notification of cds >>>is disabled. >>At 12:00 PM 4/28/97 -0400, Daniel Helfrich wrote: >> >>I had similar symptoms for a while. I got to the point where I thought >>there was a hardware problem. Then it started working for me. The best >>I could figure was that the SCSI card was "confused." I decided that my >>problem was cleared up once I fully shut down the T/P normally, with the >>SCSI card installed. The powering-down seemed to reset the card so that >>as long as I had the CD-ROM on and all plugged together, it worked fine >>the next time I booted up. It may be that you are stuck like I was-- >>everytime I rebooted from the locked up state, the card was left "confused." >>Once the card is cleared/reset/powered-down normally, it seems to be fine. >>I haven't had a lock up in quite some time, thankfully. >> >>This isn't much, but good luck with it, >> >>Dan > > >Dan, > >It was good enough! I plugged in the card with drive on while the TP was >off. I booted, didn't try to access the drive and shut down again. Rebooted >and bingo it works now! Isn't that odd. I guess I was trying to use it >first time every time, but who'd have thought not to? Anyway, I'm happy >now. It's not even that I need to use the drive that bad, it was the >challenge I couldn't let go of . > >Thank you, > >Karen -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel D. Helfrich, Landsat 7 Mechanical Systems Engineer, Landsat Project NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Maryland, USA 20771 phone: (301)286-8481 fax: (301)286-1744 email: helfrich@gsfc.nasa.gov From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 29 10:34:30 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA271604468; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:34:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24860; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:22:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:20:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24498; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:20:12 -0400 Received: from wolfe.net (mail1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24481; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:20:07 -0400 Received: from gonzo.wolfenet.com (gonzo.wolfenet.com [204.157.98.2]) by wolfe.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13644 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 16:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (pele@localhost) by gonzo.wolfenet.com (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id QAA26968 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 16:20:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gonzo.wolfenet.com: pele owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 16:20:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Lewis To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: monitor Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu To test if my desktop monitor, or my desktop video card is the reason my screen goes dark for an apparent reason (and with no apparent pattern) the monitor maker (Nokia) suggests attaching the monitor (17" model 447X) to a different computer. the only other computer that's convenient for me to do this with is my TP701c, which I bought last winter and use strictly as a backup device. the TP did not come with full documentation, so I'm reaching out here for help on what I need to do, if anything, before just attaching the port replicator to the back of the TP and plugging the monitor cable in. Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 29 10:45:09 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA275125109; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:45:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14713; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 17:16:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Apr 1997 17:13:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14370; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 17:13:20 -0400 Received: from utsurg.med.uth.tmc.edu (utsurg.med.uth.tmc.edu [129.106.8.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14360; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 17:13:15 -0400 Received: from urol29 (urol29.med.uth.tmc.edu) by utsurg.med.uth.tmc.edu with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA253851830; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 16:10:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 16:10:30 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970428161749.381fb3ec@utsurg.med.uth.tmc.edu> X-Sender: hprice@utsurg.med.uth.tmc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU From: Howard Price Subject: RE: mouse clicker is shot ! Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Had the same problem on a 755CD, worse when the machine was hot from outdoor use. Easyserv repaired it in 3 days (although I'm not sure the new click is all that much more positive than it had been). At 07:21 PM 4/26/97 -0500, you wrote: >> >> hi ! i have a thinkpad 755cx, and the left mouse click is shot - only >> by pressing ~really~ hard can i get it to respond.... has anyone else >> experienced this ? is my only option to send the think away to IBM >> to replace it ? >> > >I have the same problem on my 755CD, but its not ~really~ hard, just harder than before. Dragging is the main problem. I'm still under warrenty, is this covered? Or is there an easy fix for this? > >Much more irritating than mouse recallibration. > >Aaron Brownaaron@designcraft.com > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 29 10:58:35 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA280755913; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:58:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04893; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:38:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:36:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04563; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:36:34 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04506; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:36:28 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp (ssh-tp.wwsi.com [206.83.112.3]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA02104 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 08:40:23 -0600 Message-Id: <33660753.9AE5D70F@wwsi.com> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 08:36:03 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Organization: Worldwide Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760Xs? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone grabbed one, yet? They actually seem to be in fairly good supply. I have a 760XD coming (should be here tomorrow), so I'll post my impressions once I have a chance to mess with it a bit. I'm planning on putting NT on it, and am trying to track down all the drivers (specifically the MPEG and special video drivers). If any of you have done this, yet, please let me know how you did it! Thanks... -- Steve Hultquist, President Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Internet Integration - Technology Engineering Boulder, Colorado mailto:ssh@wwsi.com +1.303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 29 10:59:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA281075979; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:59:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07506; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:17:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:13:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07006; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:13:57 -0400 Received: from wolfenet.com (news1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06961; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:13:48 -0400 Received: from pele.wolfenet.com (sea-ts4-p45.wolfenet.com [207.178.59.95]) by wolfenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA03450 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970428191350.006befd4@popserv.wolfenet.com> X-Sender: pele@popserv.wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:13:50 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Peter Lewis Subject: monitor issue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Forgive me if this is a second reading, but near as I can tell my original post never made it on the list due to technical problems with a different server... To test if my desktop monitor, or my desktop video card, is the reason my screen goes dark for no apparent reason (and with no apparent pattern) the monitor maker (Nokia) suggests attaching the monitor (17" model 447X) to a different computer. the only other computer that's convenient for me to do this with is my TP701c, which I bought last winter and use strictly as a backup device. the TP did not come with full documentation, so I'm reaching out here for help on what I need to do, if anything, before just attaching the port replicator to the back of the TP and plugging the monitor cable in. Thanks. -- Peter Lewis pele@wolfenet.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 29 12:01:21 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA299409679; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 12:01:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14565; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 12:00:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Apr 1997 11:58:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14271; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 11:58:21 -0400 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14260; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 11:58:16 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by out2.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA100537; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 15:57:43 GMT Received: from unknown(204.146.159.80) by out2.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaQEYDmb; Tue Apr 29 15:53:35 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970429114817.0132daa0@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> X-Sender: jloyles@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net Disposition-Notification-To: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 11:48:17 -0400 To: "Ellis, Mark E." From: Jane Loyless Subject: RE: mouse clicker is shot ! Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <01099F4A226FD011902A00A0249C6F955596E8@pica-emh1.pica.army .mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is a known problem with the keyboard. I had it replaced a week ago for the 2nd time in 2 years on my TP755CE, so keyboards were available then. If it's still in warranty, I'd send it now and not wait. The problem won't get better. It will just get worse until finally the mouse button will quit working altogether. Jane At 07:37 AM 4/28/97 -0400, you wrote: >If you're using windows 95, you can swap left for right buttons on the >mouse. > >It would probably drive me crazy for a while until I got used to it. > >Then when you wear the right clicker out, send it in for service :-) > > -- Mark >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kensey Corp. [SMTP:kensey@captech.com] >> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 1997 4:23 PM >> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu >> Subject: mouse clicker is shot ! >> >> >> hi ! i have a thinkpad 755cx, and the left mouse click is shot - only >> by pressing ~really~ hard can i get it to respond.... has anyone else >> >> experienced this ? is my only option to send the think away to IBM >> to replace it ? >> >> thanks ! >> >> doug From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 29 15:48:11 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA183913290; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 15:48:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27513; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 08:38:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Apr 1997 08:32:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27168; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 08:32:09 -0400 Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27158; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 08:32:00 -0400 From: Received: from uucp6.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp6.UU.NET [192.48.96.37]) id QQcnfm21385; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 08:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw.UUCP by uucp6.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 08:31:58 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailgw.wellspringres.com id AA862241273 Mon, 28 Apr 97 08:27:53 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 97 08:27:53 Message-Id: <9703288622.AA862241273@mailgw.wellspringres.com> To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP 560's Replacement Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu An IBM help tech mentioned there's a replacement for the 560 due in "a coupla months". Can anyone on the list confirm this and, perhaps, even add a few details? Regards. From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 29 15:57:40 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA222223859; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 15:57:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07142; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 04:39:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Apr 1997 04:37:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06795; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 04:37:33 -0400 Received: from pimplimp.koolikedat.com (modem081.offcampus.calpoly.edu [129.65.100.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06782; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 04:37:29 -0400 Received: (from derelict@localhost) by pimplimp.koolikedat.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id BAA00342; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 01:35:50 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: derelict@pimplimp.koolikedat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199704262023.NAA16777@siva.captech.com> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 01:34:32 -0700 (PDT) From: derelict To: "Kensey Corp." Subject: RE: mouse clicker is shot ! Cc: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a 755CD and it seems like mine is headed that direction also, though not as bad as yours.... yet. It's just the left, mine double clivks sometimes too. -Mike On 26-Apr-97 Kensey Corp. wrote: > >hi ! i have a thinkpad 755cx, and the left mouse click is shot - only >by pressing ~really~ hard can i get it to respond.... has anyone else >experienced this ? is my only option to send the think away to IBM >to replace it ? > >thanks ! > >doug -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 29 16:20:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA229385209; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:20:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12793; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:17:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:15:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12236; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:14:58 -0400 Received: from callisto.si.usherb.ca (callisto.si.USherb.ca [132.210.10.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12172; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:14:41 -0400 Received: by callisto.si.usherb.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA59312; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:11:16 -0400 Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.misc,comp.sys.laptops Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:11:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Fabian Rodriguez <94251116@callisto.si.usherb.ca> Reply-To: Fabian.Rodriguez@callisto.si.usherb.ca To: Thinkpad list Subject: [HELP]Install Home&Away IBM PCMCIA on TP 365XD under NT4.0 WS Message-Id: Organization: InterActions! http://callisto.si.usherb.ca/~94251116 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I finally went through all installation of NT 4.0 on my TP365XD, and only one thing doesnt work: the Home&Away IBM PCMCIA adapter. It worked perfectly under Win95 on the same machine. I know this card is kind of a rat to configure but hey, at ~U$40, you know its worth to give it a try. I think I have seen some posts here of people using that card. After installing NT4 PCMCIA drivers from IBM (PC Card Director) and following instructions, NT sees the card (Control Panel, PC Card(PCMCIA)) as an "IBM w95 Home and Away Credit Card" (socket 1 or 2) but displays it with a red cross. I flashed the card with the HAWIN95.EXE files, unflashed it, etc. Under Properties|Device status, Card Info says: No Database entry for this card. Of course I need the drivers. Will the Win95 drivers work? I cant say, since the Driver tab has the Add/Remove/Configure buttons grayed out! Now, how do I add this card entry to the "Database"? If anyone is using this card under NT4.0 WS (english), let me know how you did it! I tried right clicking the inf file on the diskette, but as you knowthe multi-adapter driver must first be installed and then the Network and Modem child(children?). Adding COM2 manually (Control Panel, Ports) doesnt help, RAS insists on installing in COM1, and the network setup does not findthe adapter. Thanks in advance to anyone with any lead on this. I think I will put up something on my WWW page after I get everything OK. Greetings from Sherbrooke, QC, Canada, Fabian Rodriguez 94251116@callisto.si.usherb.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 29 16:35:16 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA232266115; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:35:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15039; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:34:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:33:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14771; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:33:04 -0400 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14748; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:32:50 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id QAA04517 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA6267; Tue, 29 Apr 97 16:28:11 -0700 Message-Id: <9704292328.AA6267@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 41738E4B1E4ADC8F85256488006FEC7B; Tue, 29 Apr 97 16:28:08 EDT To: Peter Lewis Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 29 Apr 97 16:26:07 EDT Subject: Re: monitor issue X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "... help on what I need to do, if anything, before just attaching the port replicator to the back of the TP and plugging the monitor cable in. ..." ~~~~~ just turn it off first, and that's just for the port replicator, not the monitor. the video should come right up on both screens when you reboot. if not, one of the function keys (function + f7 on my 755cd, not sure which on a 701) is a toggle between 1) tp screen only, 2) external monitor only, and 3) both screen & monitor. toggle around until you get video on the monitor. there's no other setup required. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I quote John Lennon: 'I don't believe in the Beatles. I just believe . in me'. He had a good point there. Of course, he was the Walrus. . I could be the Walrus, but I'd still have to bum rides off of people. . --Ferris Bueller . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 29 16:35:31 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA232366130; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:35:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26964; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 03:29:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Apr 1997 03:25:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26569; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 03:25:28 -0400 Received: from cyberplus.ca (cyberplus.ca [204.191.105.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26535; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 03:25:23 -0400 Received: from default ([204.191.105.101]) by cyberplus.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA04929 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 03:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704290724.DAA04929@cyberplus.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tom Trottier" Organization: ACT Productions Inc. To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 03:24:04 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems Reply-To: tom@act.ca Priority: normal In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I can't seem to get the display right for win95 & 16 bit colour on my 701. It often (especially when I start a windowed MS-DOS session) causes blurring & a ghost effect - Everything is doubled, sideways about 2 cm. I'm using the Chips & Tech driver & the 640x480 laptop display choices. It works properly if I use the 256-colour choice. TIA, Tom Thanks, Tom _________________ Tom Trottier, tom@act.ca +1 613 594-4829 fax 594-8944 199 Holmwood Ave Ottawa ON Canada K1S 2P3 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 29 19:31:12 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA286996671; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 19:31:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03431; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 19:30:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Apr 1997 19:28:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03036; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 19:28:17 -0400 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03025; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 19:28:12 -0400 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02485; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 09:27:59 +1000 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) id JAA28944; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 09:27:57 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 09:27:51 +1000 (EST) To: Michael Verne/VENTANA Cc: Peter Lewis , tp750 Subject: Re: monitor issue In-Reply-To: <9704292328.AA6267@lgate.vmedia.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On 29 Apr 1997, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: > "... help on what I need to do, if anything, before just attaching the port > replicator to the back of the TP and plugging the monitor cable in. ..." > > ~~~~~ > just turn it off first, and that's just for the port replicator, not the > monitor. the video should come right up on both screens when you reboot. if > not, one of the function keys (function + f7 on my 755cd, not sure which on a > 701) is a toggle between 1) tp screen only, 2) external monitor only, and 3) > both screen & monitor. toggle around until you get video on the monitor. > there's no other setup required. if you ever find yourself using a projection system, such as in a lecture, theater, cycle through the F7 optinons *slowly* or the system may not pick up the video out signal (leaving you with the impression that the system/ connection is not working). regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Apr 29 23:39:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA053351556; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:39:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25849; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:38:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:36:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25516; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:36:46 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25504; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:36:40 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA24898; Tue, 29 Apr 97 17:36:37 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA02772; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 17:37:32 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199704300337.RAA02772@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: 701 Win95 16-bit MS-DOS colour problems To: tom@act.ca Date: Tue, 29 Apr 97 17:37:30 HST Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199704290724.DAA04929@cyberplus.ca>; from "Tom Trottier" at Apr 29, 97 3:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I can't seem to get the display right for win95 & 16 bit colour on my > 701. It often (especially when I start a windowed MS-DOS session) > causes blurring & a ghost effect - Everything is doubled, sideways > about 2 cm Do you have access to a decent monitor? If so, try the display on that - this will give you some hint whether your driver is OK. Also, try booting with a DOS diskette, and run a high-color DOS program (if you can find one - I can't think of one right now that will actually fit on a floppy) - if there is no problem then you should suspect the W95 driver, otherwise it is likely the BIOS or video hardware. (I don't remember whether the video testing program IBM provides in the -F1 utility does high-color - you might check.) Good luck! - David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Apr 30 22:58:17 1997 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA133965495; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 22:58:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03075; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 22:17:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Apr 1997 22:12:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02290; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 22:12:24 -0400 Received: from brickbat8.mindspring.com (brickbat8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02280; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 22:12:20 -0400 Received: from jschwartz (user-37kb95g.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.176]) by brickbat8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA15438; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 22:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3367FBF3.3C5B@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 22:12:03 -0400 From: "Jeffrey S. Schwartz" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: karensw@halcyon.com Cc: "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: Re: TP560 & Pansonic CD References: <3.0.1.32.19970422235220.006a9498@mail.halcyon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu karensw@halcyon.com wrote: > > At 09:48 PM 4/22/97, Jeffrey S. Schwartz wrote: > >there are drivers ib the pansonic site that are designed for use tieh > >the PCI series of TP's. I know that they work for the 760e's series. > > > > Jeff, > > Are you saying that the 560 has a PCI card slot and the 365 does not? There > is certainly nothing in the documentation of either computer of this > difference. I'll try the drivers and report back. > > Thanks for an interesting tip, > > Karen The 560 and the 365x/xd are pci bus machines. As far as I know then PC Card sockets are still isa devices. I don't know if this helps or is more confusing. I do know that there is a file pn Pansonic web site that allows for their 4x cd-rom to work correctly on the 760e series of thinkPads.