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Well, I just so happen to have my old 170Meg drive, which makes a fine paper weight. This is one of the early(?) drives which has the cable offset problem when updating to the newer high-capacity drives. The connector on the physical drive (without case) looks like this: ppopppppppppoppppppppppppo ppoppppppppppppppppppppppo p=pin o=open The connector has AMP markings, but nothing else. As I recall, the replacement drive had a different model connector, but they might have just shifted all the p's one right. Perhaps someone else who replaced their drive, but did not experience the pin offset problem could look at their old paperweig...er..harddrive and see how it differs. Has anyone located a kit to install these drives in a desktop system? ---------------------------------------------------------- Victor Kress Carnegie Institution of Washington, Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202)686-2410 x2489 ----------------------------------------------------------