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"....it runs in half-duplex only if you have a half-duplex modem, which most 14.4's are....." ~~~~~ jesus, what am i saying?!?!? gotta stop doing two things at once.... it runs at half-duplex only if you have a half-duplex sound card, which most 16-bit sound cards are. the modem doesn't mean much. it really runs the same over 14.4 as it does over the t1. no, i do not <<hic>> drink at work. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/