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$25 each. call erik kurtz at small systems inc. in rtp, nc. he'll charge you for shipping, but he can get as many as you need. 919/932-7884 x22. as soon as the machine answers, hit 22. this is the internal ide caddy. he also sells removable hdd bays. they're key operated caddies that you could put any ide hdd into, including the $25 tp caddy. they sell for $80 & he also has them for internal scsi drives (same price). they're built for raid systems, but i've found them to be great for development and testing. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow Pages is your favorite book. --John Dvorak, PC Computing: March '96