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"Gee Robert, with opinions such as those, would you please contact me the next time you have a used TP to sell? Actually, since used machines are worth so little to those who /know/ what things are worth, you would probably just give me your old one, right? " I (or my company) owns all the thinkpads we buy, but we never sell them second hand, we keep them in service indefinitely. For us this is more cost effective than selling them. One thing I wonder though is if people realize what the new prices are on old thinkpads. Of coruse you can't find ads for these on the net, you have to walk the stores and find what's on the shelf, but I have seen LOTS of bargains, selling at prices comparable to the used prices being discussed here, and have helped many of my friends to buy thinkpads brand new at what seem like absurdly low prices. As I said before, not everyone has easy access to this kind of opportunity, so it may be worth their while to buy used machines at higher prices.