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What's really to discuss anymore? Toshiba's are better than IBM going across the entire line, going by benchmarks and I think user opinion for folks who've used both. They're rugged and equally reliable. IBM doesn't get competitive with them until you get to the high-end machines. But I've felt IBM's support is better, especially since they do it themselves, and Toshiba's are just too darn heavy when you get away from the Portege. Heck, I like the company and all, I'm on my 3rd Stinkpad, I just wish they'd show a little more concern for the entry level systems instead of the corporate/high-end boxes. Oh, and I think a Thinkpad will run just about any OS (especially when you get away from MWave) almost right out of the box, while Toshiba's and others seem to need special drivers and such. Just an impression, since my only personal experience is running Windows on either. On Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:21:43 +1000 (EST), you wrote: "what happened to the toshiba comparisions discussions? i found those very "worthwhile. i think most (sensible) people these days do not stick with one "brand as if it was a religion, and are open to considering alternatives. as "some subscribers to this list often have a much greater range of experience "with high performance notebooks, the comparision disucssions were most useful "to me. " "aside from a few comaptability problems with my 755CE it has been a good "machine, and the few problems i have had with it have left me satisfied with "ibm service. i also liked the year's insurance that came with it - the "first year is the killer on insurance ... after that you can probably chop "the value in half and it will be adequately insured. i need a new machine, "but i am not so sure what they announce in oct/nov is going to convince me to "stick with ibm. we'll see .... " "regards, al " " Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 " Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 " epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown