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> closed about six months or a year ago. i have no idea what they do with their > refurbs now. probably sell them as new. They also use them to replace dead machines under warrantee. They sent me one a few weeks ago to replace my unrepairable 701. The replacement has since died as well. I remember when FIAT had a good reputation in the US. Then, a few years of bad quality control wiped them out here. One hopes that IBM won't follow suit. - David