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Re: novice questions



On Fri, 06 Jun 1997 19:33:08 -0700, Randal Whittle wrote:

>At 06:32 PM 6/6/97, Paul Khoury wrote:
>
>>Don't forget that the 2.5" drive connectors are DIFFERENT than standard
>3.5" or 5.25" IDE/EIDE drives, so 
>>you will need an adapter.
>
>	Yup--forgot to include that until a follow-on message.  An adapter can be
>had for about $5 to $7.  Also should be careful about which direction you
>put the adapter *on*, since there is a power input involved.
>
Also, does anybody know a source for quality, and cheap adapters for these drives?

>>  You will also need to find out the switch settings for Master and Slave,
>if 2 
>>IDE/EIDE drives are in the same system.
>
>	Sort of...
>
>	I didn't know what jumper to mess with and there wasn't any instructions.
>
The jumber farthest towards the end of the drive (you can see this jumber block after the other pins are 
connected to the adapter) is usually the master selector, and the next one is the slave selector.  There are 
many text files and programs, such as Ontrack software, that have visual representations of which jumper is 
more master, or slave, that can be found on the Internet.

>	However, since many (most?) newer desktop machines actually have 2 IDE
>controllers in them (to accomodate IDE-based CD-ROMs that have become so
>popular), you can just put each 2.5" drive as "master" on their own
>seperate IDE buses.  Since you boot with a floppy anyway (to run Drive
>Copy), disconnecting the existing boot drive poses no real issue.
>
Well, yeah, sort of.  I only have my server which has two controllers, and also a VLB 486SX-25, but I bought 
the board knowing it was defective in that the CMOS is lost every time power input goes low, so I have a hard 
enough time getting four drives configured on that machine. :-{  And not everyone has a newer desktop with 
EIDE anyways.  In fact, some of us have desktops that only run on SCSI, MFM, or ESDI.

>	Then after the drive gets copied, you can pull out the original, reconnect
>the desktop's drive, and keep the new drive in there for any additional
>stuff you might want to copy off of the desktop's drive (or run Partition
>Magic from off the desktop's drive, as I did).
>
>>That is probably something I could do if I had usable 2.5"->3.5" adapters,
>but because you said you are not 
>>technical, you may or may not feel comfortable opening your desktop, or
>are unsure of what to do next.  
>>Randy's idea is definantly feasible, though, but remember, if you think
>you might get confused or unsure, have 
>>a technical friend along with you.
>
>	But honestly, what alternative is there?  All other methods, in terms of
>being "technical", are far and away worse!  The only other thing I can
>think of is to pay someone else to do it.
>
True.  But at my school, being Mr. Computers (at least that's what all the hard-core Mac users think of me as), 
I hear of people who get nervous when they I even try telling them what a hard drive is.  I'm not saying 
everyone is like that, but there are some people who don't like techinal stuff like that.

>	Speaking of which, I'll do it for you--for a fee.  ;-)
>
I guess I could probably do so, but I don't drive, nor have I finished high school, so I have enough trouble 
dealing with my 701 and the other 10+ systems. :-)
>
>-------
>Randal J. Whittle	whittle@usc.edu	http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle
>Director of Electronic Commerce, Marshall School of Business at USC
>

Regards,

Paul Khoury
pkhoury@earthlink.net