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> And a company called Exel Computers had an ad this Tuesday in the > New York Times for refurbed IBM 560s with 12.1" active display and the > P120 chip for $1499. I bought my first Thinkpad from them (a refurbed > 355) with little trouble (salespeople aren't as knowledgeable as they > think, and hate to be corrected). I've bought lots of camera equipment, and some computer equipment, from Exel, but I wouldn't make a major purchase from them - they're a bit slippery, and the 'refurb' they sell you could be an actual refurb, a demo, or a machine an employee used for several months. (At least they do deliver, unlike some other New York City dealers...) Another good source of B-stock thinkpads is CDW; look in their 'bargain basement' at www.cdw.com - David