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Not having APM on NT4, doesnt help either. rich thinkpad@bedrock.mayn.de on 01-24-98 06:06:15 AM Please respond to thinkpad@bedrock.mayn.de To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu cc: (bcc: Rich Chong/SHARE Inc) Subject: Re: Heat buildup with lid closed? On Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:41:36 -0500, Jane Loyless wrote: >have *never* had anyone report this kind of problem to me nor had I >ever seen anything crop up on the list about it Then I'm No. 1: Yesterday I turned on my 760ED, started booting NT4, closed the lid and went for a coffee. When I came back (about 1 hour later :), I opened the lid (the whole TP was fairly hot, not to mention the PCMCIA cards, as I detected later) and saw NT's login screen, telling me to press Ctrl+Alt+Del in order to log in. But when I pressed Ctrl+Alt+Del, nothing happened. The keyboard was totally dead. So I wanted to turn the TP off and on again, but that wasn't possible! I only heard a beep, and it kept running!! So I sat in front of my TP and didn't know what to do. I can't reboot it since it has no reset button and NT uses Ctrl+Alt+Del not for rebooting. I can't turn it off. Unplugging doesn't work since it has a battery. So I had to remove the battery while my TP was running (power cable already unplugged). IMO this crash was due to the closed lid. I hope this doesn't happen again. --- kind regards, Rainer Feuerstein