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On Mon, 06 Apr 1998 11:24:30 GMT, epbrown wrote: >On Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:31:12 -1000, you wrote: >>Not necessarily (though as epbrown knows, I've been accused on Usenet of >>being an agent of IBM:); my only objection to the HP is the keyboard (I've >>never had my hands on the Toshiba). I shared a flat during a conference 2 >>years ago with an HP600 owner, and got to play with his machine for a bit; I >>was pleasantly surprised at the *feel* of his keyboard, but not the size - I >>like full-sized. BTW, I found the pop-up mouse quite usable, though of >>course I *am* right-handed. > > I had no problem with the HP 800 keyboard I tried out, but at the >time I was still regularly using the keyboard on my Thinkpad 510, and >it seemed larger than that. I've got fairly large hands (they match my >big ol' feet, size 15!), So I'm not the only one with size 15, eh? My hands are also really big, and my favorite keyboard is probably the IBM click, my ThinkPad (even though I hate the folding part), and my SPARCbook. (The size 15 is not surprising, considering my height). but didn't have too much trouble adjusting. >But that mouse! The problem is the first computer I ever ran Windows >on was a Thinkpad and I can't get used to removing my hands from the >keyboard to move my cursor. That was one of the reasons I loved my 355C from day one. And that was my first Windows experiance. At work I'm known for my terrible mousing >skills because it seems so ridiculous. You stop what you're doing and >move your hand waaaay over there just to move your cursor? Yeck! So >people who're used to that love the HP 800, while I see it as the only >notebook to drag along one of the worst features of desktop computing. > epbrown > PS As an aside to DR, I just exchanged email with the guy who >accused us of being undercover IBM reps on CSL- he needed help setting >up low-cost video-conferencing on his IBM 385, and I had some tips >since I just bought a $24 QuickCam to use with NetMeeting (free) and >my 56k modem (already had). I'm surprised someone would accuse you of that. You'd think he'd ask you about OS/2 and RS/6000's to be sure. <g> > PPS You were partially right about Sony, you may have heard. You >said months ago they jump in and out of the PC business, and they're >taking a foot out - they've decided to focus on laptops and drop the >desktop division, where everyone plays too rough and they weren't as >well received. My friend has a Sony VAIO notebook, and it's VERY thin, very similiar to the 560 (though I've never seen one in person). It has a very nice 12.1" TFT, and a Pentium 150MMX. Only problem is that I couldn't notice any better performance from my P75... -- Paul Khoury <pkhoury@loop.com> http://pkhoury.dyn.ml.org Sent from my P75 Server running OS/2 Warp 4.0, Fixpack 6 There are 27 Processes with 93 Threads. This machine's uptime is 3d 9h 40m 28s 554ms.