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At 06:31 PM 5/21/98 -0800, Paul Khoury wrote: >Well, I know of one guy on this list that has used vi for over 15 years >(and you know who you are), so I assumed he might use it as a wp. <g> I don't think I'm the person Paul had in mind, but I have been using vi for at least 15 years. During the early part of that period, I was known to edit troff text formatting language, and produced nice documents with the combination. Even then, I preferred to use Emacs for text editing, including MINCE on CP/M-80 (Mince Is Not Complete Emacs) along with its companion, Scribble (subset of Scribe). In any case, I have not done any of that sort of thing (vi/troff) in over five years. Although I now use a fancy W95 based word processor (one I hate, since hardly anyone uses Lotus Word Pro), I still use vi (from MKS toolkit) for editing nearly any plain text file on my PCs. I've downloaded a Win32 version of GNU Emacs that just needs some of my time for installation. On UNIX systems, I tend to use vi (since it's always there), but prefer to use GNU Emacs. BTW, fancy windowing word processors are certainly easier, but I am not convinced that I have any greater level of control over the finished product. -- Ron.