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Re: ADMIN: Its time to rethink putting this list on Usenet..



> I think this group has out grown the mailing list. It time to reconsider 
> starting a group on usenet....  I woudl probably have to unsubscribe 
> soon because of the traffic and the fact that my 750C is stable and the 
> clutter in my inbox outways the benefits... If this group would exist as 
> a usenet group, I wouls visit it once a week or so, glance over, read 
> what I think I want to, respond, and done... 

I always find it odd when people complain about the volume here, and
the proposed solution is to move the discussion to usenet.  Doing so
will surely not decrease the volume, and will surely increase the
noise-to-signal ratio!

(Incidentally, one of the other lists I'm subscribed to just severed
the link between it and its corresponding Usenet newsgroup, because
the amount of irrevelant traffic from the latter made it totally
useless.)

I do understand not wanting tp750 mail to arrive in the same mailbox
as personal mail.  And yet I'd like to have this continue to be an
effective discussion group.  So I'd like to suggest some alternative
approaches:

1. sort your incoming mail according to topic.  I would happily put
   an extra header in all outgoing tp750 mail that made it easy
   to separate tp750 list traffic from other messages, and I could 
   try to promote a convention for doing this on all mailing lists.
   (In another guise I am an author of and/or contributor to several 
   Internet email standards, so this is not as farfetched as it might 
   seem.)

2. multiple mailboxes per user.  I subscribe to this list as
   moore+tp750@cs.utk.edu, so all of my tp750 mail ends up in
   a special mailbox.  Some mail systems already have such a feature
   built-in, and for many others (e.g. sendmail) it is easy to add.
   (I'll provide code for those who are interested.)

3. A 'digest' list (separate from the main one) which lumps 
   articles together in batches which are periodically sent out.

4. A www browsable archive of the list, that anyone on the Internet
   could peruse at his or her leisure.  (so you don't actually have
   to subscribe to the list to keep up)

I'd be willing to invest my copious free time in any (perhaps
multiple) of these approaches.

Notes:

#1 is easy on the list side, but recipients need sorting software on
their ends.  Several capable tools already exist for UNIX, but perhaps
not for other systems.  

#2 is entirely on the recipient's host, but I can provide code for
those who want it and try to promote it on the net.  

#3 is not too difficult to do here, and if lots of people want it I
will start working on it in earnest.  

#4 would only help people with good tcp/ip access.  it would be very
useful...but it might not quite fit people's needs in this case.  I
suspect tools for the web server already exist, it's just a matter of
finding them and getting the disk space...

Keith