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On May 22, 11:47am, Robert Dewar wrote: } where do you get a $2000 saving. the difference in price I see between } a CD and a CE is less than $1000, and you are eating up a few hundred $ } with the Panasonic. } } What's the battery life of the Panasonic? } Is it supported by WARP } Can you install WARP from the Panasonic? I didn't say the above, but I can offer a view. The difference between a CE and a CD here after lots of bargaining was about $CDN1500. After the CD-ROM, that left $CDN1000, and for that, I'm losing a MIDI port, and low-quality (remember I'm a graphics guy) video scan conversion. I really would have liked both of these features, but they're easy to buy for less than $1000. Unfortunately I'm sure I'd end up spending more than that on the video, given my "quality" pretensions, so I'm trying to keep away from the stores. As for Robert's points regarding the Panasonic, he's quite correct. I don't bother with batteries on mine (though I will when in Europe). Warp doesn't support it nor can install it from CD-ROM. So I created 30 floppies and felt sorry for myself, thinking I should have got a supported quad speed CD player through a parallel port. But then I realised that almost anyone who updates either PCMCIA or video drivers under WARP is going to have to make some diskette images (but not 30 diskettes worth). Again, Linux is better on this score. I can't install Linux from my CD-player, but I can take the entire Linux distribution off CD-ROM and put it in a DOS/Windows partition, and build Linux from there. EZ. The Warp people could easily have done this too. Eugene Fiume.