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I heartily agree that there is no point in wasting time bitching if we don't have a way of singling out the responsible person. If some smart person can get this guy's address, great. If not, we just have to live with it...unless... I don't know if this is possible, but if it is somebody on this list will know how. It seems like it should be possible to filter out all submissions to the tp list from people who are not already on the tp list. This would cut out Olga, and also eliminate the occasional misplaced subscription request message (unfortunately, it would not affect the unsubscribe messages). Can this be done without placing undue hardship on the list maintainer? ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 ---------------------------