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".....What is the hoop? And are the cards TP-certified?....." ~~~~~~~~~~ the hoop is that you have to have parity enabled in the cmos before you install the card. then, once you install it, you have to boot immediately to the cmos and disable parity checking. if you boot to the os before you disable parity, you have to pull the card & start over. no big deal. i don't know if these cards are tp-certified, but i've talked to ibm tech support about them & they do support them. they gave me the install tip. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc.