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Today's topics:

    Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ???  (Dr. Alexander J.
Annala)
    Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996  (Hui-Hsien Chou)
    Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996  (Gabriel Ash)
    TP701 & Mac  (Randy Whittle)
    Re: IdDA & TP701 Success  (Randy Whittle)
    Null Modem Cable...  (Dennis Pantazis)
    Re: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ???  (John H. Kim)
    TP701 & Mac  (Christoph Eyrich)
    Re: Null Modem Cable...  (John H. Kim)
    Sigma address?  (Christoph Eyrich)
    Sigma address?  (Chris Hanson)
    EMM386 help-  (Dennis Pantazis)
    Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ???  (Dr. Alexander J.
Annala)
    Interesting Free Offer........  (JohnChen00@aol.com)
    Wheres My Audio  (Terry Parrell)
    Re: Panasonic 2X Wanted  (Michael Verne/VENTANA)
    Re: TP701 & Mac  (Don Perley)
    701 time/date  (Julie A. Strietelmeier)
    unsubscribe  (Dom Virgilio)
      (Robert Kirk)



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Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 16:57:45 -0000
From: "Dr. Alexander J. Annala" <a.annala@ucl.ac.uk>
To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU, jokim@tuna.mit.edu
Subject: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ???
Message-Id: <199604071657.MAA03265@CS.UTK.EDU>


Let me suggest, as a satisfied customer, the MacConnect software which
runs over either ODI or NDIS network interfaces on the Thinkpad.  I'm
very happy with MacConnect running over the ODI interface presented by
PC-NFS 5.1 running over my 3C581 packet driver.  This setup gives my
little portable the ability to simultaneously support PC-NFS, Windows
Socket Interface, DOS packet driver programs (custom netwatch ethernet
sniffer / packet analyzer), direct printing to HPLJ-IV network printer,
and peer to peer file sharing with Mac systems via Appletalk protocol.
If you don't have a local ethernet handy, you could always get a cheap
passive hub to pass traffic among your machines.

>Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960407001627.24710B-100000@tuna.mit.edu>
>On Sat, 6 Apr 1996, Daniel Kim wrote:
>If you're really into tinkering, you can get Executor for DOS or Linux
>and run System 6 Mac apps on your Thinkpad.  You should've seen the
>look on my (Mac-only) friend's face when he saw a working Mac desktop
>on my Thinkpad.  ;)

I am not personally eager to buy yet another computer (I own a Thinkpad
750Cs for portable use, DOS/Windows31/Windows95/Linux/SCO-Unix/OS2 boxes
at home and office, and I have a bunch of 68xxx and PowerPC Mac's spread
around countertops in my office.  I would, however, really like to run a
Mac desktop on my PC to support molecular biology software which is only
available for Mac systems.  Could you please provide more information
about the capabilities, deficiencies, contact address/phone/fax numbers
for the vendor, and pricing for Executor for DOS or Linux?  Do they have
a System 7/7.5 product in the works?  How would you expect this package
to perform on a 486SL-33 (750Cs) -- a guess at comparable Mac system
performance level would be nice.  Has anyone used Executor to develop
Newton applications using the Apple NTK?

Thanks, AJ Annala

Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology


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Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 15:54:13 -0400
From: hhchou@cs.UMD.EDU (Hui-Hsien Chou)
To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU
Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996
Message-Id: <199604071954.PAA14188@glia.cs.UMD.EDU>

>>>>> "John" == owner-thinkpad  <owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU> writes:

  John> a software package designed to link a Mac to a PC via a 


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Today's topics:

    Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ???  (Dr. Alexander J.
Annala)
    Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996  (Hui-Hsien Chou)
    Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996  (Gabriel Ash)
    TP701 & Mac  (Randy Whittle)
    Re: IdDA & TP701 Success  (Randy Whittle)
    Null Modem Cable...  (Dennis Pantazis)
    Re: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ???  (John H. Kim)
    TP701 & Mac  (Christoph Eyrich)
    Re: Null Modem Cable...  (John H. Kim)
    Sigma address?  (Christoph Eyrich)
    Sigma address?  (Chris Hanson)
    EMM386 help-  (Dennis Pantazis)
    Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ???  (Dr. Alexander J.
Annala)
    Interesting Free Offer........  (JohnChen00@aol.com)
    Wheres My Audio  (Terry Parrell)
    Re: Panasonic 2X Wanted  (Michael Verne/VENTANA)
    Re: TP701 & Mac  (Don Perley)
    701 time/date  (Julie A. Strietelmeier)
    unsubscribe  (Dom Virgilio)
      (Robert Kirk)



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Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 16:57:45 -0000
From: "Dr. Alexander J. Annala" <a.annala@ucl.ac.uk>
To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU, jokim@tuna.mit.edu
Subject: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ???
Message-Id: <199604071657.MAA03265@CS.UTK.EDU>


Let me suggest, as a satisfied customer, the MacConnect software which
runs over either ODI or NDIS network interfaces on the Thinkpad.  I'm
very happy with MacConnect running over the ODI interface presented by
PC-NFS 5.1 running over my 3C581 packet driver.  This setup gives my
little portable the ability to simultaneously support PC-NFS, Windows
Socket Interface, DOS packet driver programs (custom netwatch ethernet
sniffer / packet analyzer), direct printing to HPLJ-IV network printer,
and peer to peer file sharing with Mac systems via Appletalk protocol.
If you don't have a local ethernet handy, you could always get a cheap
passive hub to pass traffic among your machines.

>Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960407001627.24710B-100000@tuna.mit.edu>
>On Sat, 6 Apr 1996, Daniel Kim wrote:
>If you're really into tinkering, you can get Executor for DOS or Linux
>and run System 6 Mac apps on your Thinkpad.  You should've seen the
>look on my (Mac-only) friend's face when he saw a working Mac desktop
>on my Thinkpad.  ;)

I am not personally eager to buy yet another computer (I own a Thinkpad
750Cs for portable use, DOS/Windows31/Windows95/Linux/SCO-Unix/OS2 boxes
at home and office, and I have a bunch of 68xxx and PowerPC Mac's spread
around countertops in my office.  I would, however, really like to run a
Mac desktop on my PC to support molecular biology software which is only
available for Mac systems.  Could you please provide more information
about the capabilities, deficiencies, contact address/phone/fax numbers
for the vendor, and pricing for Executor for DOS or Linux?  Do they have
a System 7/7.5 product in the works?  How would you expect this package
to perform on a 486SL-33 (750Cs) -- a guess at comparable Mac system
performance level would be nice.  Has anyone used Executor to develop
Newton applications using the Apple NTK?

Thanks, AJ Annala

Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology


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In-Reply-To: <bulk.1067.19960407121512@CS.UTK.EDU>
(owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 15:54:13 -0400
From: hhchou@cs.UMD.EDU (Hui-Hsien Chou)
To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU
Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996
Message-Id: <199604071954.PAA14188@glia.cs.UMD.EDU>

>>>>> "John" == owner-thinkpad  <owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU> writes:

  John> a software package designed to link a Mac to a PC via a serial
  John> null-modem cable.  I don't know if any exist.  -- John H. Kim

Hi, I have heard people talking about serial null-modem cable. I have
tried to link the 701C serial port to my Mac serial port without
success. I have found in Radio Shack a connector which converts my Mac
serial cable at the modem end to attach to the 701C. Although the
connector fits, but it seems that the signal lines inside are not
matched.

Can anybody tell me where to find the so-called null-modem cable for
connecting two computer's serial ports directly?

Thanks in advance!

hh

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Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 15:25:03 -0400
From: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash)
Reply-To: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash)
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Sun, 07 Apr 1996
Message-Id: <199604072024.QAA20661@redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu>

On Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:54:13 -0400 (EDT) you wrote:

I've just bought a null modem cable from "cables america"
1-800-348-USA4
you need to specify the end connectors (male/female, 9/25 pins), and
you will probably need also a female to female convertor.
The cable I got works well with C-kermit under OS2, it should work
with mac but I never tried it. Supposedly there exist a sort of thing
called a "fake null modem cable" which will allow only half-duplex
serial connections. Be carefull not to get one.

>Hi, I have heard people talking about serial null-modem cable. I have
>tried to link the 701C serial port to my Mac serial port without
>success. I have found in Radio Shack a connector which converts my Mac
>serial cable at the modem end to attach to the 701C. Although the
>connector fits, but it seems that the signal lines inside are not
>matched.
>
>Can anybody tell me where to find the so-called null-modem cable for
>connecting two computer's serial ports directly?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>hh
>
>
-------------
Gabriel Ash
Notre-Dame
-------------


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Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 14:22:24 -0700
From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle)
To: Daniel Kim <dpkim@husc.HARVARD.EDU>, Chris Osborn <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us>
CC: "John D. Griffith" <griffith@kodak.com>, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: TP701 & Mac
Message-Id: <v01530503ad8ddbf263da@[128.125.223.96]>

At 8:18 PM 4/6/96, Daniel Kim wrote:
>I have a recently purchased, demo 701cs 486 DX4.  I have been a mac user,
>and have been so fed up with the quality of their powerbooks that I have
>decided to go bi-platform, keeping my powermac desktop and purchasing the
>tp.  I haven't loaded any software on it, and from the posts of this
>group, it sounds like I'll be having a lot of fun putting W95 on.  My
>bios revision is BUTUS3H.
>
>Do I have to revise the bios to get the Windows 95 going?
>
>Also, I would love to be able to transfer files between the two different
>platforms without having to use floppies.  Sounds like the Jeteye has
>worked for you, Chris.  How much can you actually acomplish with this
>set-up?  Can I use the CD ROM on my Macintosh and transfer stuff to my
>thinkpad (a Windows 95 upgrade CD, for example)?  Can I transfer MS Word
>documents back and forth this way? What do you mean when you say

        Actually, for your bi-platform questions I might be of assistance.
I've been using a PowerMac in addition to my PC's (one of which is the
701C) for quite some time now.  However, I haven't done *anything* with the
IR stuff, so I can't help there.

        External CD-ROM's (SCSI) are a cinch to use on either platform.  As
far as using the one *inside* your PowerMac...I don't think so, but don't
quote me on that.  I've never really been able to do such a thing, but then
I haven't tried too hard either.

        IMO, the *BEST* solution for you is to set up a simple Ethernet
job.  For $40 you can get a transceiver for your Mac, and some amout of $
will get you a PCMCIA Ethernet thing for your 701C.  Then, the software you
want to buy is "MacLan Connect" by Miramar software in Santa Barbara.

        Basically, MacLan is Windows software that provides AppleTalk
capability to Windows (and you just turn on the various file-sharing stuff
built-in to the Mac).  Bingo--you can share drives either direction and
also printers (PostScript--you can do others with the help of additional
software).  Only problem is that it doesn't yet support Win '95's long
filenames.

        But its the best solution I've ever used for getting my two
platforms to talk to each other--and I went through a *lot* of crap.  You
might even be able to get the Apple CD-ROM to be used on your PC.


-----
Randy Whittle           whittle@usc.edu        
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle
USC Graduate School of Business

        Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?"
The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle
interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male
psyche--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'.
- Dave Barry, October 2, 1994



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Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 14:22:30 -0700
From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle)
To: "John H. Kim" <jokim@tuna.mit.edu>, Daniel Kim <dpkim@husc.HARVARD.EDU>
CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Re: IdDA & TP701 Success
Message-Id: <v01530504ad8ddc3110c2@[128.125.223.96]>


>be able to get NFS running this way.  The best solution would be a
>software package designed to link a Mac to a PC via a serial null-modem
>cable.  I don't know if any exist.

        There is a decent one called "MacLink Plus" but that sucker is slow
as molasses.

        Good set of file translators though.


-----
Randy Whittle           whittle@usc.edu        
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle
USC Graduate School of Business

        Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?"
The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle
interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male
psyche--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'.
- Dave Barry, October 2, 1994



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Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 16:53:51 -0500
From: Dennis Pantazis <pantazis@students.uiuc.edu>
To: thinkpad <THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: Null Modem Cable...
Message-Id: <Pine.A32.3.91.960407164108.85350A-100000@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu>

A null modem cable is  basically a modem cable which reverses the send 
and recieve pins.  If two serials were connected with a modem cable they 
would both try to listen for data on the same line and try to send data 
on the same line, so pins 2 & 3 of the cable are reversed wrt a modem cable.
They are about $10.

Most null modem cables or "laplink" cables come with both 9 and 25 pin ends
and the other dangles off when one is connected.  Kind of a pain it can 
get cluttery.  Get either 9/25 and get an adaptor if needed.  If you 
already have a modem cable you can also get null modem converter for a 
few dollars.  Also get one with person friendly finger/thumb screws....

On ports and the like, I suggest your desktop modem at Com2 and make the 
null modem at Com4.  You don't want it on Com1 'cause that's propaby 
where your modem is.  On the thinkpad, at least the 701, the mouse is 
unrelated to com-ports, so I suggest that you put the Ir on Com2 and the 
Modem on Com1 and the serial on Com3 of the multiport.
You will have to set the modem speed to the lower of the two machines.

If you don't have software like Laplink or TranXit, any modem or terminal
sofware will work.  You will effectively be 'dialing' one machine from
another and recieve the 'call' on the other, so use the faster machine as
the one doing the work, and plug the TP to the adaptor to keep things
running smoothly.  You be sending and recieving files by sz or sendz for
sending a file and gz for getting a file. Z-Modem is by far the most
effecive if you can do it.  Kermit and Y-Modem also work, but I think Z is
faster. 


Dennis 

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Dennis Pantazis				My opinions are my own, and can not
<pantazis@uiuc.edu>			be interpreted as extensions of the 
Graduate Student in Civil Engineering	University's official policies, 
University of Illinois-Urbana		until they decide my opinion's are
(the Extended Tour of Duty continues)	worth money to the institution!!!

You  can see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!!

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In-Reply-To: <199604071657.MAA03265@CS.UTK.EDU>
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 16:55:05 -0500
From: "John H. Kim" <jokim@tuna.mit.edu>
To: "Dr. Alexander J. Annala" <a.annala@ucl.ac.uk>
CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Re: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ???
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960407165351.25709A-100000@tuna.mit.edu>

On Sun, 7 Apr 1996, Dr. Alexander J. Annala wrote:

> available for Mac systems.  Could you please provide more information
> about the capabilities, deficiencies, contact address/phone/fax numbers
> for the vendor, and pricing for Executor for DOS or Linux?

http://www.ardi.com/
--
John H. Kim          "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like
jokim@mit.edu        'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole
jokim@tuna.mit.edu   on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes'


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Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 00:05:07 +0200
From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich)
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: TP701 & Mac 
Message-Id: <m0u62a4-000dRYC@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de>

Does MacLan run under os2 (Warp)?

Have you tried NetPresenz by Peter Lewis? (I'd like to know if you think
it's rubbish :-)



BTW, here is an alternative: according to c't 4 (1996), pp 376ff, you
can use a serial connection (null modem) as the RS-422 of the Mac is
compatible with the RS-232 of the PC. If you use a modern rate you
can get a transfer rate of up to 230kb/s. - If you haven't got an
ethernet card this is a pretty cheap way of connecting Mac and PC.

Christoph Eyrich

---
eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de




> 
>         IMO, the *BEST* solution for you is to set up a simple Ethernet
> job.  For $40 you can get a transceiver for your Mac, and some amout of $
> will get you a PCMCIA Ethernet thing for your 701C.  Then, the software you
> want to buy is "MacLan Connect" by Miramar software in Santa Barbara.
> 
>         Basically, MacLan is Windows software that provides AppleTalk
> capability to Windows (and you just turn on the various file-sharing stuff
> built-in to the Mac).  Bingo--you can share drives either direction and
> also printers (PostScript--you can do others with the help of additional
> software).  Only problem is that it doesn't yet support Win '95's long
> filenames.
> 
>         But its the best solution I've ever used for getting my two
> platforms to talk to each other--and I went through a *lot* of crap.  You
> might even be able to get the Apple CD-ROM to be used on your PC.
> 
> 
> -----
> Randy Whittle           whittle@usc.edu        
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle
> USC Graduate School of Business
> 

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In-Reply-To: <Pine.A32.3.91.960407164108.85350A-100000@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 17:08:35 -0500
From: "John H. Kim" <jokim@tuna.mit.edu>
To: Dennis Pantazis <pantazis@students.uiuc.edu>
CC: thinkpad <THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: Re: Null Modem Cable...
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960407170523.25747A-100000@tuna.mit.edu>

On Sun, 7 Apr 1996, Dennis Pantazis wrote:

> A null modem cable is  basically a modem cable which reverses the send 
> and recieve pins.  If two serials were connected with a modem cable they 
> would both try to listen for data on the same line and try to send data 
> on the same line, so pins 2 & 3 of the cable are reversed wrt a modem
cable.
> They are about $10.  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That's a cheap null modem cable.  I don't think that'll work with a Mac.
I seem to recall reading that the Mac combines a couple of the PC serial
port's pinouts, requiring a fully wired null modem cable for the signals
to make sense to the Mac.  The "Laplink" cables are fully wired.
--
John H. Kim          "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like
jokim@mit.edu        'contributing' this year come April." -- Bob Dole
jokim@tuna.mit.edu   on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word 'taxes'


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Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 00:11:01 +0200
From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich)
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Sigma address?
Message-Id: <m0u62fm-000dRSC@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de>

Does anybody know the address of Sigma (hard drives)?

Thanks

Christoph Eyrich

---
eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de

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In-Reply-To: <m0u62fm-000dRSC@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de>
(eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 18:20:00 -0400
From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson)
To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de
CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Sigma address?
Message-Id: <m0u62og-00003GC@omerie.ai.mit.edu>

   From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich)
   Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:11:01 +0200 (MES)

   Does anybody know the address of Sigma (hard drives)?

   Thanks

   Christoph Eyrich

   ---
   eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de


17 Newport Road, PO Box 1790
New London NH 03257-1790
800 446-4525
603 526-6909

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Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 18:27:11 -0500
From: Dennis Pantazis <pantazis@students.uiuc.edu>
To: thinkpad <THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: EMM386 help-
Message-Id: <Pine.A32.3.91.960407182024.80460F-100000@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu>

Can someone point me to a decent resourc wrt EMM386, after tying to boost 
the memory on my desktop, I am stuck.  Even though this is the TP group, 
I thought I would ask here first. 



Dennis 

 -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dennis Pantazis				My opinions are my own, and can not
<pantazis@uiuc.edu>			be interpreted as extensions of the 
Graduate Student in Civil Engineering	University's official policies, 
University of Illinois-Urbana		until they decide my opinion's are
(the Extended Tour of Duty continues)	worth money to the institution!!!

You  can see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!!

 ------------------------------------------------------------------------


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Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 06:56:31 -0000
From: "Dr. Alexander J. Annala" <a.annala@ucl.ac.uk>
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Mac Apps CoExistence w/Windows on Thinkpad 750Cs ???
Message-Id: <199604080656.CAA26447@CS.UTK.EDU>

Sorry, that is a 3Com 3C589 (PCMCIA Etherlink III) network adaptor.  It
comes with ODI & NDIS drivers.  You can get the packet driver from their
online (dialup) bulletin board system and (internet) ftp site.  I bought
my 3C589 used for about helf of 3Com's new price.

>Let me suggest, as a satisfied customer, the MacConnect software which
>runs over either ODI or NDIS network interfaces on the Thinkpad.  I'm
>very happy with MacConnect running over the ODI interface presented by
>PC-NFS 5.1 running over my 3C581 [sic] packet driver.  This setup gives
>little portable the ability to simultaneously support PC-NFS, Windows
>Socket Interface, DOS packet driver programs (custom netwatch ethernet
>sniffer / packet analyzer), direct printing to HPLJ-IV network printer,
>and peer to peer file sharing with Mac systems via Appletalk protocol.
>If you don't have a local ethernet handy, you could always get a cheap
>passive hub to pass traffic among your machines.


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Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 03:37:28 -0400
From: <JohnChen00@aol.com>
Subject: Interesting Free Offer........
Message-Id: <960408033728_266461532@mail04>


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Forwarded message:
Subj:    Interesting Free Offer........
Date:    96-04-08 02:45:01 EDT
From:    JohnChen00

To:      announcement.service@r1.f62.n8669.z303.fidonet.org

-----> NOTE:   Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for
more info Form."  Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More
Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company.  You will
get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info
request form below. 

IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY:  Please make sure you
return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the
actual form below.  If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form
onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below
form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.*  This is necessary in
order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that
they get daily.

Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not
paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* and/or
*auto-deleted* from the incoming queue of faxes to be read, if your fax:

1. has a cover page;  
2. is more than one page
3. is sent more than one time
4. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form
5. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form.
6. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only* 
    with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard).  This last 
    provision re:  no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in 
    via smail also.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NOTE:  Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week.   However,
 if you have trouble getting through due to the high volume of overseas faxes
coming in during the early morning and late night hours, please note that the
best time to get through to their fax is Monday-Friday, 9 am - 5 pm EST (New
York Time).  If you have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have
a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail
(airmail or first class mail).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



*------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------*
REQUEST FOR MORE INFO:  please return *only* this section (with no cover
page) via 1-page fax to:
                              718-967-1550 in the USA

or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to:    
                                         Magazine Club Inquiry Center
                                         Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept.
                                         PO Box 990
                                         Staten Island NY  10312-0990

Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged.  If you do not
have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you
until you do have one.  If you saw this message, then you should have one.
 :)

---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED.  
        MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <---

Name:
Internet email address:
Smail home address:
City-State-Zip:
Country:
Work Tel. #:
Work Fax #:
Home Tel. #:
Home Fax #:

How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in):  Referral by:  John Chen.
040896-l-ifo

Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:

Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:

Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"):

*------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------*


Catalogue Format Options:
1.  19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total).
2.  For more advanced computer users:  attached text file ~525K - you
     must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to
     open it with your word processor.  If in doubt, don't ask for this
     version.  This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1
     and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document
     with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how
     to deal with this option.
3.  For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached
     text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea),
      ~133K.  Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no
     special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed.  You
     just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands
     (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as 
     you still have to know how to deal with an attached file.  It will cut 
     your download time by 75%.   Expands out to the same ~525K file in 
     option #2.  See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be 
     able to do.
4.  For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with
     Stuffit(tm),  ~114K.  Can be decompressed by any computer user who
     has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files.
     This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your
     download time by 78%.   Expands out to the same ~525K file in option
     #2.  See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do.



Hi fellow 'netters,

My name is John Chen and I recently started using a magazine subscription
club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your
first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them.    They have over
1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a
subscription basis.   As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a
selection than I ever knew even existed.  They have magazines for most every
area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves.  This is their price
guarantee.

Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of
what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines.  On some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge.  They
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   In the USA, people buy
magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or
hours.  They are so cheap in the USA!   Well, this company would like to make
it the same way for their overseas members.  They are also cheaper than all
their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers
themselves!   This is their price guarantee.  Around one-half their business
comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak
limited English as a 2nd language.

Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.

They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey)
!)...if you completely fill out the form above.  It has lists of all the
freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories
and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell.

Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.  I
don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
part-time software business!  Please fill out the above form and carefully
follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail.

They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less
than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times,
just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet.  They
assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.  

They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I
haved moved from one country to another.

They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a
special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA.   They will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
USA titles they sell.  

They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have
clients in around 45 or 46 countries now.  Outside the USA there is a charge
for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that
varies from magazine to magazine.  I have found their staff to be very
friendly and courteous.  They even helped me with an address change when I
moved from one country to another.
 
The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member.   When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you
personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has
one of his assistants call.  He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on
setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't
want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future orders (after your
first order) via E-mail.   

He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  If you live overseas, he
will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still
makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance
rates are cheaper then.  

He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  When I got set-up, they had a
2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could
join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you
call. )  I think they are able to get back to prospective new members  the
same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff.  I am
not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is
the way to get started!

They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey)
!)...if you completely fill out the form above.  It has lists of all the
freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories
and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell.

They then send you email  that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he
sells;  and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.

Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.


Sincerely,

John Chen





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Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 09:23:51 -0230
From: Terry Parrell <terryp@nfld.com>
To: "THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU" <THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU>
Subject: Wheres My Audio
Message-Id: <3168FE4F.7BD1@public.compusult.nf.ca>

Thanks But I tinkered anyway and I found a Line missing from my System.ini
file:

[386inh]
DEVICE=TPAUDVXD.386

Lo and Behold!!! Beeps and bloops abound... Had to turn it down a little!


TP

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Date: 08 Apr 1996 07:39:36 -0400
From: Michael Verne/VENTANA <Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com>
To: bronsons <bronsons@cs.rpi.edu>
CC: tp750 <tp750@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: Re: Panasonic 2X Wanted
Message-Id: <9604081443.AA0037@lgate.vmedia.com>

"...I'm interested in buying Panasonic's 2X PCMCIA
CD-ROM drive for my Thinkpad 701C.  Anybody
out there have one for sale?  Audio CD's can
be played with this too, right?  Does it
run off of batteries, AC adaptor, and PCMCIA
power?..."

~~~~~

i have one of these.  it comes with an ac adapter, but will also run on 6 AA 
batteries.  i've never run it on batteries, so i don't know how long they 
last.  it will play audio cd's through a stereo headphone jack with volume 
control.  there is no auxiliary out, so the only way to play audio cd's
through 
the laptop is to run an extra cable from the headphone jack on the drive to
the 
mic input on the thinkpad, which isn't pretty, but it works.


Michael J. Verne
michael_verne@vmedia.com
Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group
http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/
Saying Yahoo or Lycos is your favorite [web] site is like saying the Yellow 
Pages is your favorite book.
   --John Dvorak, PC Computing:  March '96


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Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 06:04:14 -0700
From: Don Perley <perley@cadence.com>
To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich)
CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Re: TP701 & Mac 
Message-Id: <199604081304.GAA15853@cds9258.cadence.com>

At 12:05 AM 4/8/96 +0200, Christoph Eyrich wrote:

>
>BTW, here is an alternative: according to c't 4 (1996), pp 376ff, you
>can use a serial connection (null modem) as the RS-422 of the Mac is
>compatible with the RS-232 of the PC. If you use a modern rate you
>can get a transfer rate of up to 230kb/s. 

The highest rate I've seen is 115 kb/s, and that's bits, not bytes, so 
the overall rate is way lower than, say, a floppy drive.  OK for file 
transfers, but not like you can cross mount the CD-ROM or hard drive and
have it be just like a lan.

-Don Perley
perley@cadence.com


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Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 07:45:57 -0500
From: "Julie A. Strietelmeier" <julie@cel.cummins.com>
To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU
Subject: 701 time/date
Message-Id: <9604081317.AA03836@ceco1.cummins.com>

Is there any reason why my 701 doesn't keep time when running Windows 3.1?
But if I just run DOS, everything is fine?

Julie

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Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 08:21:36 -0700
From: Dom Virgilio <domv@teleport.com>
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: unsubscribe
Message-Id: <199604081521.IAA01154@linda.teleport.com>

unsubscribe

Please!
I have been unable to unsubscribe for weeks.
Please!

Dom

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Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 12:04:41 -0400
From: Robert Kirk <kirk@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov>
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960408160441.00698518@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov>

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