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"...After installing MWave 2.22, I found I had about 60M more free space on my hard disk. That was a pleasant surprise. The reason is that the MWave 2.22 install specifically removes the MWD (Mwave for DOS) directory and all the stuff in it. Apparently, you could have manually done this with MWAVE 2.11, but it mustn't have specifically done it as part of the setup (I think I was told I needed to put in MWD before loading MWW 2.11 when things didn't work well in my last upgrade, but my assumption now is that the advise was incorrect). ..." ~~~~~ not exactly. you *do* need to install mwd 2.x before installing mww 2.11 because the files need to be there for the mww installation, but not to actually use it. you got good advice, just incomplete advice. install mwd 2.x, then install mww 2.11, then you can deltree \mwd. it's nice to see that ibm's engineers are starting to be proactive about it, though. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ ------------------------------- When life hands me lemons, I make lemonade. When life hands me comedy, I send email.