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re: 32 vs. 16 MB in TP (was: Third Party Memory)



     My two cents:
     
     My brother-in-law just bought a 32 MB SO-DIMM from the Chip Merchant.
     
     Kudos to them:  about 6 weeks ago, he asked them for the 32 MB 
     SO-DIMM.  At that time, they said they didn't carry it.  So, he 
     settled for the 16 MB.  But, their Web page does show a part number 
     for the 32 MB SO-DIMM at $355.  When he pointed it out to them, about 
     2 weeks ago, they gave him a credit for the 16 MB and sent him
     the 32 SO-DIMM without waiting for him to return the 16 SO-DIMM. They 
     did nick him $15 for a restocking fee.
     
     However, the performance of the 701 with Win95 seems to improve 
     markably when running the same apps with 16 (+8) vs. 32 (+8). We've 
     run two 701s side by side.  There is minimal to no disk caching with 
     the 32 MB upgrade.
     
     The situation where too much RAM memory slows down a system can occur 
     with the definition of the size of the disk cache.  To me, the 
     classical example of this is with OS/2.  OS/2 by default will allocate 
     a disk cache that is typically 2x the RAM size.  This is great for 
     OS/2 boxes with something like 16-24 MB of RAM.  In the good old days 
     of expensive RAM, this made sense.  When RAM prices crashed last year, 
     and I splurged on RAM for my OS/2 box and pushed
     the RAM to 64 (an excessively silly amount), the performance noticably 
     degraded.  Why?  Because the disk cache grew to 128 MB.  Once I forced 
     the disk cache back down to 32 MB, performance went back up.  Win95 
     does something similar.  But I don't understand lots of things
     with Win95.
     
     Hope this helps...
     
     
     Mitchell
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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     _________________________________ Subject: 16 v 32 on TP (was: Third 
     Party Memory for the TP701)
     Author:  ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) at Internet Date:    
     3/19/97 10:10 AM
     
     
     Randy Whittle writes:
     
     > difference.  I posted sometime back that according to Norton 
     Utilities, my > base Win 95 setup (with the little extras loaded, like 
     Norton Navigator
     > utils) uses up something like 30 MB RAM just by booting up and 
     sitting > there without any additional software loaded.  The Win 95 
     kernel alone
     > (without *any* fancy stuff--i.e., networking capability) takes up 12 
     MB RAM.
     
     What is NU really reporting here?  I've run Win95 w/only 8 megs, and 
     while it is sometimes horribly slow, at other times it runs fine w/no 
     HD access visible.  A fair fraction of this kernel must therefore be 
     fairly irrelevant, and Windows must be smart enough to page it to disk 
     and keep it there.  (Good grief, I've just used 'Windows' and 'smart' 
     in a sentence not containing the word 'not'!)
     
     The reason I raised the question is that the price difference between 
     a 16 meg dimm and a 32 meg dimm is very substantial, and to me 
     wouldn't be worthwhile unless software actually ran faster at times 
     other than when it was being loaded.  (Common 'wisdom' on
     comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips is that too much memory can actually 
     slow a system down! I don't know whether to believe it.)
     
     - David