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"... Can anybody share experiences with me on refurbished Thinpads ? ..." ~~~~~ yes, i much prefer them to the old, bulky thikpads. : ) when we were buying thinkpads, we were buying refurbs almost exclusively. big price break vs. buying new. exact same 3-year warranty from date of purchase as if they were new. availability is often actually better than new because the models a couple steps down from the latest & greatest are always in high demand & show up more often as refurbs at the outlet than new at ibm sales. the downside is that they haven't always actually *been* refurbished, so 1 in 3 has a problem that needs fixing. fortunately, in my experience, ezserv never takes more than 3 or 4 days to fix them & get them back to me. as always, your mileage may vary. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . We've all heard that a million monkeys banging a million typewriters will eventually produce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we all know this is not true.