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Re: flame: PEPSales, 701c --> Pentium



On Sun, 20 Jul 1997 18:09:29 -0700, Peter Lewis wrote:

>
>Well said.
>
>In addition, let's not forget the greeting/rules we all received upon
>subscribing to this list, from which I quote the following excerpt verbatim:
>
>QUOTE:
>
> >>> NOTE <<<
>
>In general, advertising of commercial products or services is prohibited on 
>this list. 

I definantly agree.  In the exception where another member of the list says he/she is looking to purchase or 
sell something like memory or a hard drive left over from an upgrade might be okay, but I don't agree with 
commercially-based companies advertising their over-priced stuff, which is VERY overpriced for me, being in 
high school (as we have a reputation for being short of cash quickly! :-(  ).

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>UNQUOTE
>
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>At 04:52 PM 7/20/97 -0400, axel hartmann wrote:
>>Hello David,
>>
>>Thank you for your persistence in pointing out the facts that
>>are still missing from PEP's postings. I've been on this list
>>for well over a year now. 

Such as benchmarks, and telling us whether or not a particular upgrade voids the system's warranty, and 
whether they take over the warranty or not.

>>PEP keeps on butting in with advertisements that are at least
>>borderline spam. There are plenty of other companies out there
>>doing the same sort of upgrades which don't advertise on this
>>list. What makes PEP annoying is that they are not at the technical 
>>level that this list is generally at. They, or Michael, are not 
>>responding to very clear requests to back their claims. 
>>
Sounds like traditional advertising to me.

>>Thank you, David, for not giving up!
>>
>>PEP, why don't you answer David's questions? It would make 
>>my life easier as well, because I really don't want to have to
>>figure out how spam filters work with Microsoft Exchange... 
>>
I don't want to figure out how to do the same on PMMail/2 either.

>>axel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Saturday, July 19, 1997 19:19, David Ross[SMTP:ross@math.hawaii.edu]
>wrote:
>>>> I must disagree on one of your points. It is true that the AMD is not a
>true
>>>> Pentium, but in our tests, it benchmarks out as fast as a Pentium 75.
>>>
>>>I do not believe that an AMD586 at 100 mhz (i.e., on a 25mhz system)
>>>will meet a P75 even on non-systemic benchmarks.  
>>>

True, because a Pentium is 64-bit (was it internal, external, or both?), while the AMD option is still just 32-bit at 
the best.  In a ways, it's sort of like comparing a 386DX-40 to a 486SX-25.

>>>Several people on this list have seen a document I produced detailing my
>>>own experiences upgrading a desktop machine to this chip, together with
>several
>>>before-and-after benchmarks (some well-known, some based on real-world
>>>apps).  The upgrade was definitely worthwhile for me, but on my desktop
>>>only cost me $40, and I was upgrading from a clock-doubled machine
>>>(instead of clock-tripled like the 701C). 
>>>
>>>You say you don't like WInstone, but you don't say what benchmarks you
>>>use instead.
>>>
>>>- David R.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Paul Khoury
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