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Today's topics:
Icons in Windows (Scoundrl)
Re: Icons in Windows (Alex Judd)
Re: Icons in Windows (Richard Fritzson)
RE: Icons in Windows (King, Randall)
Re: Icons in Windows (Michael Klenner)
Icons that won't go away (Tom Gauldin)
Audio CD problems (Paulo Magalhaes)
RE: Audio CD problems (King, Randall)
Booting Linux (William Ng)
Re: Upgrading 760CD to 760ED (Kenneth Yee)
Re: 760CD keyboard (Roger J. Buffington)
Re: Upgrading 760CD to 760ED (Gary E. Jacobs)
755 CE Manual (Donnie Hagan)
(Tom Gauldin)
pcmcia dial tone passthrough (Doug Fairclough)
Re: Infrared Jet Eye (Bill Bryan)
Re: pcmcia dial tone passthrough (Richard Fritzson)
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:57:15 -0500
From: Scoundrl <scoundrl@nando.net>
To: Thinkpad List <TP750@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: Icons in Windows
Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960315135050.2240A-100000@bessel.nando.net>
I recently installed Iomega's "Ditto" backup software on my 755CD. The
program has a "scheduler" and "instant backup" program intended to run in
the background. It works absolutely great and I was able to back up my
HD in only 2+ hours. Here's my problem, now.
I am not too "fluent" in Windows 3.1, so my question might appear
elementary. The damn Ditto software has created icons that appear at the
bottom of my screen at Windows bootup- as if they were minimized programs
that were started in the STARTUP window. Unfortunately, the programs
don't appear in the startup menu at all. I suspect that somewhere in
Windows 3.1 there a file, similar to a autoexec.bat file that loads
program items separately from the startup items in the startup program
group.
Could someone help me out here and tell me how to get rid of the damn
unrequested and unwanted items that now inhabit my screen? BTW- I've
been through every icon and program in the Ditto program group and cannot
find anything to "turn off" the damn icons there. I'm frustrated and sure
would appreciate some advice here.
Tom
Thomas A. Gauldin Here's to the land of the longleaf pine,
Raleigh, NC The summerland where the sun doth shine,
BSRB45A on Prodigy Where the weak grow strong and the strong grow great,
FAX (919) 676-1404 Here's to Downhome, the Old North State.
------------------------------
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960315135050.2240A-100000@bessel.nando.net> from
"Scoundrl" at Mar 15, 96 01:57:15 pm
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 19:16:58
From: Alex Judd <ajudd@quantime.co.uk>
To: scoundrl@nando.net (Scoundrl)
CC: tp750@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Re: Icons in Windows
Message-Id: <7332.199603151916@tiree.quantime.co.uk>
Look at your \windows\win.ini file in the first section [windows].
There should be lines like 'run=c:\ditto\schedule.exe'
Either remove these or comment them out (put a ; before each line) and
they will no longer be loaded on startup
Alex
>
>
> I recently installed Iomega's "Ditto" backup software on my 755CD. The
> program has a "scheduler" and "instant backup" program intended to run in
> the background. It works absolutely great and I was able to back up my
> HD in only 2+ hours. Here's my problem, now.
>
> I am not too "fluent" in Windows 3.1, so my question might appear
> elementary. The damn Ditto software has created icons that appear at the
> bottom of my screen at Windows bootup- as if they were minimized programs
> that were started in the STARTUP window. Unfortunately, the programs
> don't appear in the startup menu at all. I suspect that somewhere in
> Windows 3.1 there a file, similar to a autoexec.bat file that loads
> program items separately from the startup items in the startup program
> group.
>
> Could someone help me out here and tell me how to get rid of the damn
> unrequested and unwanted items that now inhabit my screen? BTW- I've
> been through every icon and program in the Ditto program group and cannot
> find anything to "turn off" the damn icons there. I'm frustrated and sure
> would appreciate some advice here.
>
> Tom
>
>
> Thomas A. Gauldin Here's to the land of the longleaf pine,
> Raleigh, NC The summerland where the sun doth shine,
> BSRB45A on Prodigy Where the weak grow strong and the strong grow
great,
> FAX (919) 676-1404 Here's to Downhome, the Old North State.
>
>
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 14:24:04 -0500
From: Richard Fritzson <fritzson@cs.umbc.edu>
To: Scoundrl <scoundrl@nando.net>
CC: Thinkpad List <TP750@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: Re: Icons in Windows
Message-Id: <3149C3D4.BD9@cs.umbc.edu>
Scoundrl wrote:
> Here's my problem, now.
>
> I am not too "fluent" in Windows 3.1, so my question might appear
> elementary. The damn Ditto software has created icons that
> appear at the bottom of my screen at Windows bootup- as if they > were
minimized programs that were started in the STARTUP window.
I have the same attitude toward these things (it does the same
thing in WIndows 95). Perhaps I dislike them more since the product
doesn't work on my TP 700C and there is no uninstall for the
software.
However, it is easy to do what you want. In Win95, you can right
button the icon and a menu which include "close" comes up; there
should be something similar in Win 3. If you want to stop it from
starting up, look in \windows\win.ini for something like
LOAD=D:\QBWIN\DITTO.EXE
That's the line that is starting it up automatically.
I don't know why they needed to do that.
Rich Fritzson
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 14:33:00 -0800
From: "King, Randall" <rjking@kodak.com>
To: Thinkpad List <TP750@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: RE: Icons in Windows
Message-Id: <3149F06C@Horizon.kodak.com>
Look in the WIN.INI file for two lines:
load=
run=
I think you will find what you need in run=, as that will start a program up
minimized. On your Thinkpad C:\THINKPAD\FUELWIN.EXE will be in that line as
well.
Please let's not start a OS war here again. I have answered the question,
let it die.
RK
----------
From: owner-thinkpad
To: Thinkpad List
Subject: Icons in Windows
Date: Friday, March 15, 1996 1:57PM
I recently installed Iomega's "Ditto" backup software on my 755CD. The
program has a "scheduler" and "instant backup" program intended to run in
the background. It works absolutely great and I was able to back up my
HD in only 2+ hours. Here's my problem, now.
I am not too "fluent" in Windows 3.1, so my question might appear
elementary. The damn Ditto software has created icons that appear at the
bottom of my screen at Windows bootup- as if they were minimized programs
that were started in the STARTUP window. Unfortunately, the programs
don't appear in the startup menu at all. I suspect that somewhere in
Windows 3.1 there a file, similar to a autoexec.bat file that loads
program items separately from the startup items in the startup program
group.
Could someone help me out here and tell me how to get rid of the damn
unrequested and unwanted items that now inhabit my screen? BTW- I've
been through every icon and program in the Ditto program group and cannot
find anything to "turn off" the damn icons there. I'm frustrated and sure
would appreciate some advice here.
Tom
Thomas A. Gauldin Here's to the land of the longleaf pine,
Raleigh, NC The summerland where the sun doth shine,
BSRB45A on Prodigy Where the weak grow strong and the strong grow
great,
FAX (919) 676-1404 Here's to Downhome, the Old North State.
------------------------------
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960315135050.2240A-100000@bessel.nando.net>
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 14:54:02 -0500
From: Michael Klenner <mdk1143@is.NYU.EDU>
To: Scoundrl <scoundrl@nando.net>
CC: Thinkpad List <TP750@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: Re: Icons in Windows
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960315145119.27936A-100000@is.nyu.edu>
On Fri, 15 Mar 1996, Scoundrl wrote:
> I am not too "fluent" in Windows 3.1, so my question might appear
> elementary. The damn Ditto software has created icons that appear at the
> bottom of my screen at Windows bootup- as if they were minimized programs
> that were started in the STARTUP window. Unfortunately, the programs
> don't appear in the startup menu at all. I suspect that somewhere in
> Windows 3.1 there a file, similar to a autoexec.bat file that loads
> program items separately from the startup items in the startup program
> group.
Tom,
Have a look at your win.ini file in your \windows\ directory.
Specifically, look for load= and run= statements. You can comment them
out with a simple semi-colon at the beginning of each line. That way you
can have them if you want them by removing the semi-colon.
Take care,
-Mike
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 15:43:47 -0500
From: Tom Gauldin <scoundrl@nando.net>
To: TP750@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Icons that won't go away
Message-Id: <9603152043.AA08584@merlin.nando.net>
Thanks folks for the suggestions. It worked like a charm.
Phhhht!!! To software houses who have their products do this and then not
tell the buyer how to get rid of it. <grin>.
Tom
Thomas A. Gauldin Here's to the land of the Longleaf Pine
12333 Wingspread Way The Summerland, where the sun doth Shine
Raleigh NC 27614-9245 Where the weak grow Strong and the Strong grow
Great
(919) 676-1404 fax only Here's to Downhome, the Old North State
scoundrl@nando.net
scoundrl@vnet.net
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 22:11:28 +0100
From: Paulo Magalhaes <pamaga@biobase.dk>
To: TP750@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Audio CD problems
Message-Id: <9603152111.AA02822@biobase.dk>
So... The work load increases and I slip a CD into the CD-ROM hooked to
my faithful TP. I have a little gizmo that controls the CD player as an
audio unit; the headphones are connected to the CD unit. Yesterday
someone walked away with my headphones - no they didn't get stolen,
just borrowed. Suddenly the urge for some music (no, I ain't telling;
it's bad enough with the OS wars!) - no problem, my TP750 has audio
abilities! Er... er... Ok. I confess: work really suffered... I spent
a few hours trying to figure out how to get sound from the CD unit
through the built in speaker - all I managed was pure silence! Any
suggestions? Many thanks in anticipation.
--
Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA
voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:35:00 -0800
From: "King, Randall" <rjking@kodak.com>
To: TP750 <TP750@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: RE: Audio CD problems
Message-Id: <314A0CA8@Horizon.kodak.com>
The audio that comes from a music CD is different that the audio you get
from, say, Warcraft. The audio from a CDROM is digital, and the PC has to
decode the information and turn it into sound. All of the work to play an
audio CD is done by the CDROM player itself. That's why you can start
playing a music CD, shut down the Laptop, and in most cases you can get the
music to keep going.
In order to listen to the audio through your Thinkpad speakers you would
have to get a patch coard, run it from the Audio Out on the back of the
CDROM, and into the Microphone jack (or Audio In jack) on the Thinkpad, and
then give it a go. The audio will probably sound like crap, but it should
work with a little messing around. Basically all you are doing is patching
your audio directly to the speakers in the Thinkpad. It is easier to just
go and punish the person who took you headphones! :P
RK
----------
From: owner-thinkpad
To: TP750
Subject: Audio CD problems
Date: Friday, March 15, 1996 10:11PM
So... The work load increases and I slip a CD into the CD-ROM hooked to
my faithful TP. I have a little gizmo that controls the CD player as an
audio unit; the headphones are connected to the CD unit. Yesterday
someone walked away with my headphones - no they didn't get stolen,
just borrowed. Suddenly the urge for some music (no, I ain't telling;
it's bad enough with the OS wars!) - no problem, my TP750 has audio
abilities! Er... er... Ok. I confess: work really suffered... I spent
a few hours trying to figure out how to get sound from the CD unit
through the built in speaker - all I managed was pure silence! Any
suggestions? Many thanks in anticipation.
--
Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA
voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 14:42:09 -0800
From: wmng@berlioz.nsc.com (William Ng)
To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Booting Linux
Message-Id: <9603152242.AA21612@berlioz.nsc.com>
I recently installed Linux on a TP755CX with 800x600 svga video. I used
LOADLIN in DOS in order to use the 800x600 video mode (after typing
PS2 MODE3X ON). I am wondering if there is a way to boot directly into
Linux and still be able to use the 800x600 video?
Thanks.
-William Ng
National
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Date: 14 Mar 1996 19:07:15 -0500
From: Kenneth Yee <Kenneth_Yee.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
To: "Gary E. Jacobs" <gjacobs@qualcomm.com>
CC: tp750 <tp750@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: Re: Upgrading 760CD to 760ED
Message-Id: <9603160012.AA21165@internet1.lotus.com>
> PCI local bus
> 16MB RAM standard
> 2MB VRAM (video RAM)
Drool...if they add Cardbus and Zoom Video, and external PCI support,
my quest for a real desktop replacement will be complete :-)
ken
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 17:50:09 -0500
From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington)
Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington)
To: dewar@gnat.com, tp750@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Re: 760CD keyboard
Message-Id: <199603160144.RAA14462@chaph.usc.edu>
On Mon, 11 Mar 96 13:40:06 EST you wrote:
>
>1) Letters are wearing off on my thinkpad, the N looks like a lambda,
>and the A looks like a forward slash.
>
>2) Keys are sticking, where sticking means they seem to "catch" on the
>way down, and won't depress without pressing them hard.
>
>Anyone else having similar problems.
I was. My Keyboard letters all came off, pretty much. I just got my
keyboard replaced by EZ-Serve. Not only is the tactile feedback
better, but the letters on the keyboard are brighter and nicer than
before.
EZ serve is fast and painless. I sent it in Monday afternoon, got it
back on Friday morning, via fed ex. Can't beat that with a stick.
Later.
----------------------------------
Roger J. Buffington
USC Law, Class of '97
-----------------------------
AB6WR
Go Trojans!!
WARPing with PM-Mail
| "I would rather die peacefully, in my sleep, like my Grandfather,
rather than screaming, and in terror, like his passengers..."
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 18:18:49 -0800
From: "Gary E. Jacobs" <gjacobs@qualcomm.com>
To: Sandy Meltzer <sandy@surf.com>
CC: tp750@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Re: Upgrading 760CD to 760ED
Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960316021849.3f3f2328@adept>
At 07:41 PM 3/14/96 -0800, Sandy Meltzer wrote:
>Since you seem to have some inside information Gary, any idea what is
>really going on with the 760 models? Why all of these apparent
>"mid-stream" changes?
No inside information. It was in this weeks PC Week magazine.
Gary Jacobs
gjacobs@qualcomm.com
(619)658-4069 voice
(619)658-2120 fax
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 07:28:47 -0600
From: Donnie Hagan <duck4440@occ-uky.campus.mci.net>
To: tp750@cs.utk.edu
Subject: 755 CE Manual
Message-Id: <199603161328.HAA20464@occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net>
I am looking for 755 CE Owners manual. Anybody have one for sale or know
where to get one? Thanks.
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 09:18:12 -0500
From: Tom Gauldin <scoundrl@nando.net>
To: TP750@cs.utk.edu
Message-Id: <9603161418.AA13942@merlin.nando.net>
Thanks again for the instructions on how to get the pesky icons off my
TP755CD's screen. As suggested, I checked the "load" line in win.ini and
found the culpert. Now that this is behind me, I'm off on another quest.
Some of you may remember that I coupled a GPS receiver to my machine via the
serial port and used it on a long trip to plot my location on a extrememly
detailed map that came on CD ROM.
I also have a tiny B/W TV camera that's about the size of matchbox and have
used it (held on to the TP's case with velcro) to take "snapshots" via the
video in connection.
The problem with this is that the camera needs an external power supply in
the 8-14 volt range. It only pulls about 250 milliwats. To supply this, I
made up a rechargable battery pack and hold it to the laptop's case with
velcro as well. Frankly, this solution seems bad and I'd like to tap the
laptops' battery for the power connection.
Here's my question- do any of you all know which pins on which ports might
carry battery voltage in the 1/2 amp range? I read a comment once where a
person mentioned the mouse port as supplying voltage, but I am not sure.
In addition, the tiny plug on the video connector is fine, but the magnet
surrounding the wire (to comply with FCC specs) is cumbersome and a pain in
the rump. Does anyone know what havoc I'd wreak if I did a "magnetectomy?"
Finally, the plug going into the "video in" socket has three pins plus the
case itself as a ground, or "common." Has anyone dissected the "S"
video/composite adapter at the other end of the short wire to determine
which wires or pins actually carry the composite signal to the "video in"
port. By knowing this, I could further reduce the size and bulk of the
connection by directly soldering the two conductors from the camera to just
the tiny pin via a short length of coax.
It sure would be nice if the ports came with a schematic <grin>. I'll keep
you all posted of my progress.
Tom
Thomas A. Gauldin Here's to the land of the Longleaf Pine
12333 Wingspread Way The Summerland, where the sun doth Shine
Raleigh NC 27614-9245 Where the weak grow Strong and the Strong grow
Great
(919) 676-1404 fax only Here's to Downhome, the Old North State
scoundrl@nando.net
scoundrl@vnet.net
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 07:59:04 -0800
From: Doug Fairclough <kensey@wired.com>
To: Thinkpad <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: pcmcia dial tone passthrough
Message-Id: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960316075445.28815A-100000@get.wired.com>
had a funny problem where i was trying to demo some product
(well, sort of), and i was using a pcmcia modem card (the
Megahertz one we all have !).
anyway, i got a dial tone, and i heard the numbers being dialed
(touch tone), but the dial tone did not go away, but sat there.
after the number was dialed, i got a bogus error message (it
was either 'busy' or 'no dial tone' - i forget).
anyone ever have this happen on any kind of modem ?
thanks !
doug
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:16:29 -0500
From: Bill Bryan <billb@rust.net>
To: Donnie Hagan <duck4440@occ-uky.campus.mci.net>
CC: tp750@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Re: Infrared Jet Eye
Message-Id: <199603161618.LAA15144@Fe3.rust.net>
At 09:55 PM 3/12/96 -0600, you wrote:
>I purchased a jet eye for my desktop (Win 3.1) and I am having no luck
getting
>any files transferred. I copied the Tranxit program off the laptop to the
>desktop
>and I cannot get the The New Window icon to light up. I tried hooking com
port
>to com port with Tranxit and still no luck. So the I tried DOS Interlnk
>which I have
>used on a previous thinkpad and still no luck. Has anyone got this working?
I
>have posted to a couple of mailing lists and all I get is people telling me
>that
>they can't get their's working either. Any little bit of info is
>appreciated.Thanks
>
> Donnie Hagan
>
Have you tried loading both laptop and desktop from puma's
installation disk. This is how I did it. Then you must get your ir port on
the laptop right. I use com2 2F8 int 3. If you have pcmcia cards
installed, remove them till you have it working.
Then on the desktop end make sure that your ir receiver is
externally powered. I found with the Adaptec ir port, that external power
is needed to go at top speed. Without external power the unit would cause
program lock-up during transferring of files. Also try running your port
speeds at slower baud rates till you get everything up and running.
B/B
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb
"Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions
three ere the other side he see." Bridgekeeper / Holly Grail
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:29:18 -0500
From: Richard Fritzson <fritzson@cs.umbc.edu>
To: Doug Fairclough <kensey@wired.com>
CC: Thinkpad <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: Re: pcmcia dial tone passthrough
Message-Id: <314AEC5E.1496@cs.umbc.edu>
Doug Fairclough wrote:
>
> had a funny problem where i was trying to demo some product
> anyway, i got a dial tone, and i heard the numbers being dialed
> (touch tone), but the dial tone did not go away, but sat there.
>
> anyone ever have this happen on any kind of modem ?
Yes. On a rotary dial only line (are there really such things
anymore?) or on some PBX lines which don't recognize the standard touch
tones.
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