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Tim Tyhurst wrote: > > > I've upgraded the OS on my ThinkPad 360PE to Win95 now, and have > > everything working, including Pen Services 2.0. (Boy, I kind of like > > the old pen services better...kind of miss the gestures and so forth). > > I'd be interested in hearing of any success you have in running with 256 > colour drivers and Pen Services 2.0. My experience with my 750P are Are you teasing me? Your experience with your 750P are WHAAAT? :) Well, as I said, I have everything working. I've just finished spending a couple MORE hours trying to find native Win95 drivers for the WD90C24 chipset (video). This notebook has 1MB RAM, so it shouldn't have any problems showing 256 colors, but the native Win95 drivers only work correctly in 16 color mode. You have to load an external driver called VESA.EXE (which you can get from Western Digital and ibm.com and probably other places). VESA.EXE is a DOS TSR, so it's a 16-bit thunk and is s-l-o-w! The 256 colors works fine, including animated cursors and that sort of thing, but it's just so slow it all but defeats the pen features. For example, if you open Paint and start drawing circles with the freehand tool, they don't come out as circles but instead are more like connected lines. If you move reeaaaaaly slow, you'll get circles, but who wants to do that? This isn't a problem if you unload VESA.EXE and run it in 16-color mode, but then who wants to run in 16-colors? I've checked Western Digital and all I could find was the VESA.EXE extensions. There's Win 3.x, Win NT 3.x and DOS drivers. Nothing else appears to be out there. It appears the VESA extensions aren't loaded in the notebook version of the bios, so you have to load this external VESA driver. There IS a commercial package out there (forget the name, but it's something I ran into while messing with all of this) and it supposedly DOES support the chipset. However, after installing it, I still couldn't get it to do more than 16 colors without VESA.EXE. > > Also, has anyone out there heard if Win98 is going to have pen > > extensions? I wonder if I'll be able to upgrade to that OS when the > > time comes??? > > I doubt it, but I'm just guessing. I think I remember hearing that Pen > Services 2.0 was almost killed before Win95 was released. Really? Well, that's too bad. I've noticed that Windows CE has pen services and don't know how they compare to, say, the capabilities and accuracy of the Newton, but I actually liked Pen 1.0 better than 2.0 anyway. Only problem is, all of this really dates the system! I'll bet you can run Win98 just fine on the 360 and probably 750 if you're willing to give up the pen, but that's the whole point! :)