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Today's topics:
Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard? (Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus)
755C Hard Drive/IDE Adapter? (Michael Gross)
Re: 755C Hard Drive/IDE Adapter? (Michael Klenner)
ADMIN: suggestion (Don Whiteside)
IDE vs. SCSI PCMCIA (Brian K. Tarkington)
Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard? (Steve Hultquist)
Zenith Z-player (Michael Raine)
w95 and suspend mode, am i doing something wrong? (Paul Rubin)
subscribe (Alva H Taylor)
Re: ADMIN: suggestion (Joseph Christie)
Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard? (Jeffrey Friedl)
Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard? (Ken Yee)
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Date: 27 Mar 1996 12:27:59 -0500
From: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus <Bill_Abt/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
To: michey <michey@prz.tu-berlin.de>
CC: thinkpad <thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard?
Message-Id: <9603271726.AA05583@internet1.lotus.com>
I have no problems with the IBM Ethernet II Credit Card Adapter. It retails
for about $200(US) but can be had for a lot less if you shop around.
-Bill
michey @ prz.tu-berlin.de
03-27-96 03:24 PM
To: thinkpad @ cs.utk.edu @ INTERNET
cc: (bcc: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus)
Subject: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard?
Hello,
I'm looking for a pcmcia-ethernetcard for a tp 755cx (24MB,500GB),
which should work with OS/2 and Linux.
Who knows which work/don't work/are preferable?
Thanks in advance!
Gruss
Michael
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* Michael Eyrich Technische Universitaet Berlin, Deutschland *
* michey@{cs,prz}.tu-berlin.de Fachbereich Informatik (13) *
* Tel: 030 / 314 26 713 He 104 (Galerie) Prozessrechenzentrum TU Berlin *
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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 10:35:16 -0800
From: Michael Gross <mhgross@ix.netcom.com>
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: 755C Hard Drive/IDE Adapter?
Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960327183516.002a4a68@popd.ix.netcom.com>
Could someone steer me to a source for the IDE adapter which will allow me
to mount the Thinkpad hard drive into a desktop system? Thanks in
advance/Michael
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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:14:38 -0500
From: Michael Klenner <klennerm@is.nyu.edu>
To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU
Subject: Re: 755C Hard Drive/IDE Adapter?
Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960327191438.0068b688@is.nyu.edu>
>Could someone steer me to a source for the IDE adapter which will allow me
>to mount the Thinkpad hard drive into a desktop system? Thanks in
>advance/Michael
I second this request.
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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 10:02:41 -0500
From: "Don Whiteside" <dwhite@shadow.net>
Reply-To: dwhite@shadow.net
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: ADMIN: suggestion
Message-Id: <199603271923.OAA01374@anshar.shadow.net>
Given the recent spate of pranks involving people being signed up for
mailing lists against their will (Rush Limbaugh and Emmanuel
Goldstein were both victims with the result being 300+ messages an
hour) I think we should steal a good idea another list I'm one uses
Namely adding to the header:
X-Comment: TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email "unsub poly" to listserv@lupine.org
Obviously we should tailor it to let people know how to unsub from
OUR list, but you get the idea. If you're not familiar with the way
SMTP handles headers, you don't see this unless you make a specific
effort to do so - it's not displayed normally.
While many people won't think to look there, it makes sure the
information is available to those in the know.
Just a suggestion.
=========================================================================
Don Whiteside, professional computer jockey. Kids, don't try this at home
Penis ownership is not a prerequisite to technological competence." - Me
=========================================================================
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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:44:36 -0800
From: bktarkington@ucdavis.edu (Brian K. Tarkington)
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: IDE vs. SCSI PCMCIA
Message-Id: <v02130500ad7f492e5250@[128.120.18.124]>
I'm considering a cdrom drive with an IDE pcmcia connection for my
ThinkPad. Can someone comment on how the speed would compare to an
arrangement using a SCSI pcmcia adapter, say the Adaptec 1460?
Thanks,
Brian
_______________________
Brian K. Tarkington
University of California at Davis
bktarkington@ucdavis.edu
74033.2574@compuserve.com
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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:10:52 -0700
From: Steve Hultquist <ssh@wwsi.com>
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard?
Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960327221052.00e9c6c8@[166.93.8.14]>
At 03:24 PM 3/27/96 +0100, michey@prz.tu-berlin.de wrote:
>I'm looking for a pcmcia-ethernetcard for a tp 755cx (24MB,500GB),
>which should work with OS/2 and Linux.
>
>Who knows which work/don't work/are preferable?
3Com. Don't even mess with any others.
Cheers,
sh
--
Steve Hultquist Worldwide Solutions, Inc.
Distributed Systems and Internet Engineering Boulder, Colorado
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In-Reply-To: <v02130500ad7f492e5250@[128.120.18.124]>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 17:14:17 -0600
From: Michael Raine <mraine@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Zenith Z-player
Message-Id: <Pine.A32.3.91.960327170913.30814C-100000@red.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Hello,
I recently bought a Z-Player for my TP701 (well, the price was good).
After adding a couple of switches to the pcmcia drivers, I can see the
cdrom under DOS and windows. Trouble is, I can't stop the audio portion
of the Z-player from interfering with the Thinkpad's built in audio
(sounds won't play when the Z-player is plugged in). I could disable the
TP audio, but if I did that I'd only have sound when the Z-player was
attached (wouldn't I?).
Does anyone know of a way to keep the TP audio and just use the CD-ROM
portion of the z-player? I asked IBM and Zenith but they didn't know if
it was possible.
TIA,
Michael
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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:51:28 -0800
From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin)
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: w95 and suspend mode, am i doing something wrong?
Message-Id: <199603280051.QAA29809@netcom9.netcom.com>
When I enter suspend mode on my 755cx under windows 95,
either by hitting alt-f4 or by selecting "suspend" in the start menu,
the screen blanks and a moment later the disk spins down as expected.
But much later--like minutes or hours--the disk starts spinning
again (with the screen still dark). This doesn't really seem
like suspend mode to me. Any advice? Thanks.
PS, I'm using w95 because of a project I'm doing for work...
the UI is slick but I'm still eager to switch back to Linux...
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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:52:11 -0800
From: Alva H Taylor <alva@leland.Stanford.EDU>
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: subscribe
Message-Id: <199603280052.QAA10288@elaine48.Stanford.EDU>
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In-Reply-To: <199603271923.OAA01374@anshar.shadow.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 01:22:59 +0000
From: christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie)
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Re: ADMIN: suggestion
Message-Id: <3159e914.22106653@unix.asb.com>
On Wed, 27 Mar 1996 10:02:41 -0500, you wrote:
>Given the recent spate of pranks involving people being signed up for
>mailing lists against their will (Rush Limbaugh and Emmanuel
>Goldstein were both victims with the result being 300+ messages an
>hour) I think we should steal a good idea another list I'm one uses
>Namely adding to the header:
>
>X-Comment: TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email "unsub poly" to listserv@lupine.org
>
>Obviously we should tailor it to let people know how to unsub from
>OUR list, but you get the idea. If you're not familiar with the way
>SMTP handles headers, you don't see this unless you make a specific
>effort to do so - it's not displayed normally.
>
>While many people won't think to look there, it makes sure the
>information is available to those in the know.
>
>Just a suggestion.
>=========================================================================
>Don Whiteside, professional computer jockey. Kids, don't try this at home
>Penis ownership is not a prerequisite to technological competence." - Me
>=========================================================================
>
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In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960327221052.00e9c6c8@[166.93.8.14]> (message from
Steve Hultquist on Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:10:52 -0700)
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:44:43 +0900
From: Jeffrey Friedl <jfriedl@nff.ncl.omron.co.jp>
Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard?
Message-Id:
<199603280344.MAA04743@tubby.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp>
Steve Hultquist <ssh@wwsi.com> wrote:
|> >I'm looking for a pcmcia-ethernetcard for a tp 755cx (24MB,500GB),
|> >which should work with OS/2 and Linux.
|> >
|> >Who knows which work/don't work/are preferable?
|>
|> 3Com. Don't even mess with any others.
Well, my IBM one works fine (Linux/DOS/Windoze, but I'd expect OS/2 would
be fine, considering it's IBM).
Jeffrey
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See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e
and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e
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In-Reply-To:
<199603280344.MAA04743@tubby.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> from
"Jeffrey Friedl" at Mar 28, 96 12:44:43 pm
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:14:01 -0500
From: kenyee@leftbank.com (Ken Yee)
To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp
CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, cs@xircom.com
Subject: Re: Which PCMCIA-Ethernetcard?
Message-Id: <9603280414.AA02969@leftbank.com>
> Steve Hultquist <ssh@wwsi.com> wrote:
> |> >I'm looking for a pcmcia-ethernetcard for a tp 755cx (24MB,500GB),
> |> >which should work with OS/2 and Linux.
> |> >
> |> >Who knows which work/don't work/are preferable?
Don't get a Xircom for OS/2. They never finished their OS/2 Card
and Socket Services driver (after releasing their initial OS/2 driver
2 years ago). What this means is that if you pull out the card while
OS/2 is running, it'll lock up; ditto if you insert it. If you come out
of hibernation, the card also does not get reinitialized, so you have
to reboot OS/2. Hopefully, their 100Mbps card will have better OS/2
support, but I doubt it...
ken
p.s., IBM's ethernet card works for the above test cases if you use fixpack
17...
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 01:54:59 -0500
From: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash)
Reply-To: Gabriel.Ash.1@nd.edu (Gabriel Ash)
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:07:05 -0800
From: glencc@ix.netcom.com (Glen craney)
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 02:00:57 -0600
From: Dennis Pantazis <pantazis@students.uiuc.edu>
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:19:59 +0100
From: Maurice klein Gebbinck <mauricek@cs.kun.nl>
To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu
Subject: subscribe
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:24:00 -0800
From: "King, Randall" <rjking@kodak.com>
To: THINKPAD <THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: Re: 755C Hard Drive/IDE Adapter?
Message-Id: <315ABD68@Horizon.kodak.com>
>>Could someone steer me to a source for the IDE adapter which will allow me
>>to mount the Thinkpad hard drive into a desktop system? Thanks in
>>advance/Michael
>I second this request.
I third the request. I had a couple of stores that I called to try and get
it, but I have had no luck.
To stop the flow of requests that may come into me, here is one of the
stores that supposedly has this magical adapter:
Micro Sense, Inc.
370 Andrew Ave.
Leucadia, CA 92024
800-544-4252
Just ask them for a 2.5"->standard IDE connector for a thinkpad hard drive.
I believe it was less that $20. If someone actually can get through to
these guys, can you post the manufacturer of the part and the part number?
I called the store a few months ago, and asked them who made it. They
wouldn't give me the manufacturer, and would only say 'Oh, it's somebody up
the coast.' I have been searching for this holy grail for a while.
Be warned, there is an external adapter that they may try to sell you.
While the internal costs about $20, the external costs about $200. If
someone already has an internal adapter, please send me the manufacturer and
part number.
Randall
rjking@kodak.com
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 15:51:11 +0200
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